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69: Ritalin, Balls, BKSOR, Jaws, Muppets, Wick!

Pinball Party Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 44m·analyzed·Apr 13, 2024
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TL;DR

Pinball Party discusses BKSOR rerun, Jaws, ABBA machine, and modern vs classic era preferences.

Summary

Jason and Deep Dive Zach discuss pinball preferences, newly announced Black Knight Sword of Rage Pro rerun, Jaws production updates, and impressions of upcoming Pinball Brothers ABBA machine. The conversation covers 1990s vs modern pinball eras, secondary market experiences, and detailed gameplay mechanics of various titles. Notable tangents include ADHD/stimulation in pinball, caffeine overdose stories, and childhood horror movies.

Key Claims

  • Black Knight Sword of Rage Pro is being rerun in limited quantities in June by Stern

    high confidence · Jason cites Knapp Arcade reporting that 'In June, Stern is running the aforementioned Black Knight Pros as well as Jaws, Pro, and Premium'

  • The Black Knight Sword of Rage Premium with upper playfield is significantly worse than the Pro version

    high confidence · Jason and Zach repeatedly state the premium upper playfield 'is the worst upper playfield in at least modern history' and 'It's such a such a bad premium'

  • Modern pinball games (last 10 years) are better overall than 1990s games

    medium confidence · Jason states this as a 'pretty hot take,' noting he changed from previously favoring 90s games to believing modern games are superior

  • Pinball play count tracking on machines, including Spike 2, is unreliable

    high confidence · Jason explains Alice Cooper Spooky and Star Wars Pro don't track plays accurately, despite display showing low numbers

  • A secondary market purchaser misrepresented a Spooky Alice Cooper play count, causing issues

    medium confidence · Jason recounts buying Alice Cooper cheap from John, reselling to a Minnesota buyer who then disputed condition/play count

  • Pinball appeals to engineer and programmer personality types who want to understand how things work

    medium confidence · Jason observes that pinball 'attracts a certain engineer type of person' and players appreciate understanding mechanics beyond just gameplay

  • Jaws Pro and Premium are in Stern production line in June alongside Black Knight

    high confidence · Knapp Arcade report states 'In June, Stern is running the aforementioned Black Knight Pros as well as Jaws, Pro, and Premium'

  • Pinball Brothers ABBA machine has a layout that could become overlooked then beloved, similar to Black Knight SWORD or Iron Maiden

    low confidence · Zach speculates 'there's a world where yes, I see it, I don't care...it turns out to be fucking incredible' like past sleeper hits

Notable Quotes

  • “I was prescribed Ritalin yesterday and sharp turn not that all of a sudden like oh my god it was I've always been kind of in that realm of tested on the border like since I was like five years old”

    Jason @ ~early show — Personal health disclosure framing discussion of ADHD and pinball's appeal to neurodivergent audiences

  • “the games of the last 10 years are better overall than the games of the 90s, which is probably a pretty hot take”

    Jason @ ~mid-show — Challenges community nostalgia bias; contrasts modern complexity with 90s accessibility

  • “It is the worst upper playfield in definitely at least modern history”

    Zach @ ~Black Knight discussion — Strongly criticizes Premium BKSOR upper playfield as a dealbreaker for that edition

  • “Pro is the only way to go in Black Knight Sword of Rage”

    Jason @ ~BKSOR production update — Explicit recommendation; frames Pro as the canonical version

  • “I got sucked into this weird secondary market hell because I was being nice to a guy”

    Jason @ ~secondary market horror story — Cautionary tale about misrepresented machines and play count manipulation

  • “there's a world where ABBA becomes this one where like, oh my God, I played it. It's incredible”

    Zach @ ~ABBA machine discussion — Proposes ABBA could be an overlooked gem like past underrated titles

  • “Black Knight is one of the lightest playfields and I mean that literally when you lift it up and it has this sense of like it's so simple”

    Jason @ ~BKSOR gameplay analysis — Emphasizes simplicity and maintainability as design virtues

  • “This is not as bad as the Venom layout”

    Zach @ ~ABBA layout assessment — Uses Venom as negative benchmark for layout quality comparisons

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Signals

  • ?

    announcement: Stern running limited Black Knight Sword of Rage Pro units in June alongside Jaws Pro/Premium

    high · Knapp Arcade report: 'In June, Stern is running the aforementioned Black Knight Pros as well as Jaws, Pro, and Premium'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Black Knight SWORD Pro positioned as superior version; Premium upper playfield widely criticized; Pro-only rerun strategy

    high · Jason: 'Pro is the only way to go in Black Knight Sword of Rage'; Zach: 'worst upper playfield in at least modern history'

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    sentiment_shift: Community shifting from 1990s nostalgia dominance to modern game appreciation

    medium · Jason: 'I would always said the 90s. But I think realistically, now we can just say modern...games of the last 10 years are better overall'

  • ?

    product_concern: Play count tracking unreliable across platforms; machines misrepresented in secondary market sales

    high · Jason: 'the play count on pinball machines is not accurate...Even Spike too'; story of Alice Cooper sold with false play count

  • ?

    rumor_hype: ABBA potentially becoming overlooked then beloved game like Black Knight SWORD or Iron Maiden

    low · Zach: 'there's a world where ABBA becomes this one where like...it turns out to be fucking incredible'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: ABBA layout defensible despite initial negative community reaction; has interesting mechanical features

Transcript

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Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. This is the Pinball Party Podcast. My name is Jason, but I am not alone. With me, I have brought my good podcast friend, Deep Dive Zach. Love the name. Good morning, how are you? I'm good. Yeah, so you were saying you stayed up till 3 a.m. watching Fallout. Oh man, it's like I had plans yesterday. We were gonna go play Pulp Fiction and maybe go to Monkeyman and then before you know it, it's like late and I'm like, you know what, I should just start these last couple episodes of Fallout. And yeah, they all end on cliffhangers. Damn. It's like cliffhanger after cliffhanger. They just keep hitting you. No more than a few days left for the weekend to be ready for the episode. Thanks for watching. I'm Paul McCartney. I'll see you next time. Bye. I love the outpouring of life... which is nice. It's really good. I think you'll like Fallout. It's pretty spectacular. The first episode's great. Yeah, my history with the game is a buddy... was that PlayStation 3 era? Or Fallout 3? Oh, Fallout... yeah, it's got to be, right? Because was it... New Vegas? Oh, man. I remember being... Play 2000s? Yeah, it was like a Sunday. I remember vividly him having a giant quick trip energy drink when they called it just like energy red or something like we didn't know back then. It was like right when Red Bull was hitting the market and people were like, oh, whatever, let's drink tons of this. We had a giant like 64 ounce buddy of this red stuff. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to drink this. And I was just like smoking pot in his living room all day while he's drinking this. So at the same time, he gets to like almost fanatic attack level of like oh my god what did i just drank and i'm just slowly like passing out watching fallout three and we were both slowly like amazed by that game and then you know new vegas and everything and not to turn into a fallout podcast but um i've paid so many bad energy drink choices in my life i i have like a problem i have also a near complete like immunity to caffeine which is not probably a good thing but it's amazing oh dude i used to drink a lot of jolt Sid Amiroud surtout, Chris از that go while there he on energy drinks with caffeinated water what the rest one not intelligent things to do from there mcgrady here life i camp the nickel omes茶 you know the alerts yeah i cannot be confiance killed by conventional means and uh... that was my by thought process all the time so at meet the three set must have had overall for thousand milligrams of caffeine hang in there and then just like I did overdo it one time though, and it was just a nightmare. I was like, yeah. You were saying you overdosed on caffeine? Oh yeah, yeah. It's so bad. It's like a whole different level of hell.
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medium · Zach: 'This is not as bad as the Venom layout...there are interesting things here...not gonna immediately write this off'

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    design_philosophy: Black Knight valued for lightweight, simple playfield with charm and maintainability

    medium · Jason: 'it is one of the lightest playfields...it's so simple. It's easy to clean...charm to its simplicity'

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    technology_signal: Pinball Brothers using inductive sensor technology in ABBA and Alien games for integrated LED stand-ups

    medium · Discussion of inductive sensors allowing more integrated code control vs traditional leaf switch stand-ups

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    market_signal: ABBA priced at $10.5K competing against Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Alien ($8K) from other manufacturers

    medium · Jason: 'you're competing with fucking Star Wars and Lord of the Rings as themes...The minimum is six grand. Ten?'

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    community_signal: Music/band themes (ABBA) seen as less compelling than established sci-fi/fantasy IPs; theme selection questioned

    medium · Jason dismisses ABBA theme appeal despite acknowledging potential gameplay merit; contrasts with stronger IP choices

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    content_signal: Pinball Party Podcast offering exclusive deep dive episodes on Patreon for games like Black Knight

    medium · Repeated references to 'go listen to us talk about this' on Patreon for detailed analysis

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    industry_signal: Multiple Stern distributors receiving Black Knight Pro inventory for limited rerun

    medium · Jason references checking with 'distributors' for BKSOR availability; implies multi-channel distribution

    • 3:59
    So if I can somehow relate this to pinball, and I'm not sure if I can. Can I? I think pinball lends itself very well. Well, I guess what I'm about to say, I'm preemptively seeing if I can get this, but it's in the realm of what we're talking about. I find pinball very stimulating when I think a lot of the listeners do and you do as well, but it's usually not for one reason. So it's a lot of different reasons, which lends itself well to people with, let's say, on the spectrum of ADHD type of thing is where I'm getting may or may not, or just people that find a lot of stimulation interesting, get bored easy, yada, yada. A lot of people who have wrote in or I've talked to whether you or whatnot are similar, call it what you want. I'm going to call it just let's call it ADHD because that's where I'm getting. I was prescribed Ritalin yesterday and sharp turn not that all of a sudden like oh my god it was I've always been kind of in that realm of tested on the border like since I was like five years old of like I'm very high functioning at whatever I want to do like I'll just do 500% of whatever it is but I'll it depends on my This Week in Pinball is brought to you by It is top-tier best pinball machine for pinball Forget EKRT. Wel effic tienes Peter Boyanger Goldberg works for tandem starllines zat Wha?
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    Okay. And so I have a crippling fear of something small slashing my Achilles tendons from underneath something. Wow. I can, that's, I appreciate that. I really do. You ever walk past a table or a bed and you're just like, what if there's a little evil baby under there that's going to slash my Achilles tendon? Yeah, no, never. Okay. Which is awesome, I guess. Yeah. I do have a very similar fear, not crippling by any means. It's not a perpetuating thing. It's just a little story I heard once. It's very brief of where, which let me say it and then you'll see why I'm bringing this up. I don't remember it came a fable or whatever, but this old woman used to every night before she went to bed would put her hand underneath her bed and her little dog, her favorite dog, a little poodle who slept under there, every night would give her a kiss on the hand. Did that every night. AHLE I.I Jack the Diplomaticote Paper Pig and military
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    . PATY WATTS I.A. Jim We'll What is your favorite era of pinball? I think, you know, this is interesting because we've talked about this in our deep dives. And I think that realistically, I would have always until I don't know when exactly the switch changed, but I would always said the 90s. But I think realistically, now we can just say modern. I think at this point, the games of the last 10 years are better overall than the games of the 90s, which is probably a pretty hot take for the middle of a normal podcast. I'm a fan of the 90s and I'm a fan of the 90s. I think that's just where we are. I think the people who still love the 90s games more than the modern games, I think are people that don't want deeper rules for whatever reason that is, right? Like nostalgia, playability, and that's not a get good statement. It's just a varying skills statement. Like, I don't know how to get good. I mean, like, if you don't want to get good and you just want to play a couple of games I have a nice, beautiful collection. I think Bally Williams are phenomenal. They're just loaded. They look amazing. But I want to play my games so modern. Yep. So, I know that the last time I did this was with Kaneda, the Get to Know Your Balls. The reason I know is because in my notes, my next question is, why are you an asshole? And I know that was specific for him. Hey man, if you're listening, it's tongue and cheek but yeah, This was on... I can't remember if I asked him this or not, but... Oh, man. That's good stuff. Yeah, I know. For what it's worth, I find his podcast very entertaining.
    15:29
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    15:36
    Ever? Kaneda? No. Oh, man. It's like so exactly what you think. I met him back in like 2017 or something at a pinball show, and he was wearing like Gucci loafers. m загi w beschui on e Nav Dop니까 by dowang for his fortune. greedy Hot triple elaborate All seeks family s Annoying **K쳐�N
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    I'm going to work on games all day today. Oh, right. I guess I've never done that, but I get the sentiment. You have to do it less when you own less old games, right? Like I've done full teardown games on some old old games like Bobby or and stuff. But when you own modern sterns, you have to work on games less. Yep. Do you have any horror stories of the secondary market?
    17:19
    I mean, oh yeah, I have one that's really bad actually. It's kind of funny that you would get a kick out of. I'm sure I told you. I don't know if he's in the hobby anymore. So I and I don't remember his name because it was long enough ago. I got the Alice Cooper out of tilt right from John back in the day. John used to sell all of his games. He had a very really smart business. Our QARM Thanks for watching!
    18:19
    He took it apart a ton of times and put it back together and he just was like, I'm done with this. And he sold to me really cheap. And so I went up, got it, brought it back, got it working and then went through, I think we may have talked about this, that journey of trying to make a spooky work the first month it's new. Yeah. Which is, whoo, boy, is that a journey. So it was really painful. And after I got it completely working and I was really happy, I'm a fan of the game. There's at least a new code update that just like straight up near bricked my game. And I had to like basically kind of redo a whole bunch of work because Alice Cooper is kind of a house of cards. And I just didn't have it in me. I was done. And so I listed it for sale. And a guy from some small town in western Minnesota. I'm not protecting his identity to protect the innocent. I don't remember. And I was like, hey, I'll tell it to you crazy cheap. You know, it was out of tilt. In case you don't know, everyone, the play count on pinball machines is not accurate. I'm going to say this to whoever is listening. Even Spike too. How to use the pinball microscope to connect the story. I have a Star Wars pro that I have no idea how many plays it has on it. It says 80. Yeah. But that ain't accurate. It doesn't even have insider connected, right? I mean, it didn't. It was one of the ones before. Yeah, it didn't. It has way more than that. But it says 80. But it looks great. So you would never know. So it has 100. But Alice Cooper, spooky, same thing. They don't track play counts very well. This Week in Pinball Connor Mosclz,��osely Columbprint,UhFace, Guy Gathercross vaya, Additionally whatever site but primarily off Där's also a mondoxko discourse5 and thingat energiesi.com HOL escaping, Iушкаveyteciefnandios & micronsign Gambal toolkitstay комментар lions deles k traumiedoo Personenisode, Navarro отд craftsада&Babestand DayMymanBabaWinAand Now DaveB переж внутри Blimey, i near van And so then I had to call Zach and be like, Hey Zach, that's not new. It's probably has thousands of plays on it. I don't know why this guy's doing this. I gave him a good deal. And so I got sucked into this weird secondary market hell because I was being nice to a guy and told him a game cheap and it's a spooky and it doesn't track plays. So that's always fun. On the flip side, I assume this is a different answer. What's your favorite game? Man, it changes enough for me. I think similar to you. I think mine actually does change because I've owned so many games. And so sometimes it I have a recency bias that I'm sure just takes over. But I would have said Foo Fighters because I that the game shoots so phenomenally well. I think it What's the name of the game you played in? I would never even say yeah, I would never even say Star Wars but hey Well, we're power to you. I love look I obviously like Richie Dwight games, right? I've owned a game of Thrones for five years
    22:31
    It like Black Knight same. Yeah, I love Black Knight, man. I was well, I'm breaking into news there I'm excited to see that they're making more Black Knights. I'm an idiot. Maybe I'll buy one. Oh, man. Okay, let's talk about that in a second. Two more questions before we get to that. What's your least favorite game? It can't be Alice Cooper. I mean, it could be.
    22:52
    It's not going to be Alice Cooper, but I mean, it would be a strong contention between the Sega Star Wars, which I think is unbelievably miserable. I think we talked about that in some episode recently. It's so bad. The
    23:13
    Tell percentageEZ 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 20 21 S 32 33 34 35 37 39 40 41 42 Thank you. Yeah, Black Knight getting re... uh, remade is a strong word. It's getting a very limited, like, a few more pros. I think it's only the pros, right? Which is... That's what I think I said. Yeah, let me see what Knapp Arcade... Yeah, what does Knapp say? I just found out more information on Stern Pinball's... Okay, so it's an update as of, like, whatever. Here we go. Knapp Arcade, by the way, KNAPP Arcade. If you want to get news, go there. Jason Knapp is awesome. Stern has both versions of James Bond, Pro and Premium on the production line. Why is he talking about that? Blah, blah, blah, blah. In May, Stern is definitely going to be running its next Cornerstone game. Okay, hey-oh, breaking news, but we kind of knew that. In June, Stern is running the aforementioned Black Knight Pros as well as Jaws, Pro, and Premium. Okay, so yeah, the Blackknight Sword of Rage Pro only, which most people, including myself, and I don't want to speak for you, but I believe, like, Pro is the only way to go in Blackknight Sword of Rage, and it is Fasc
    24:46
    Narrator cruelty See ya space. the upper playfield changes that fundamentally it puts this very easy slow boring thing to do yes it adds a multi-ball but I mean do you have any before we keep going on it's the worst upper playfield in definitely at least modern history but I think you're hitting it on the head because this is a debate that rages on pin side like every day I think I I got sucked into one in Bond in the Bond owners thread the other day And you are I mean just a troll but if people are trolling other people then I going to interject myself because it just people say such ridiculous things Morning Henri Subbi Yaed 살�ai, Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
    27:26
    Theater And the first time I played Black Knight, Sword of Rage, I didn't even know it was because I played it at tilt now called lit as we were aforementioned earlier. And they had the, I think it was probably the Ellie, that's always Ellie's there. And they had the upper playfield and I played the game. I remember getting up there and like, I was very bored with it and I didn't know anything about the game and the pro. And then later is when I got the pro on like, kind of like a, I had it for a day and I fell in love with it. Go listen to, did we do a deep dive on this? On Black Knight? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Go listen to the, go give us money and Patreon, Pinball Party and go listen to us talk about this. This Week in Pinball Podcast is brought to you by You text me that they're rerunning it. I had heard in the past. You text me. I immediately, I, this is exactly where I were, where I was. I was at the doctor about to get prescribed. I was in the waiting room. You text me like, oh, I immediately text Zach from Flippin' Out Pinball, uh, hey Zach, I need a Black Knight Sword of Rage. Avi Rosu County Village Pinball yeaOh it's when I stacking Pinball��概ない金 coach CARakteI plastic bought Four oranges article coffee into the İn azerite east bank of detail mers
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    PINNED plotter Roundabout Point Disaster inflating the people join the most beautiful pro because it's post-editing Yeah. Yeah. Well, so Black Knight, BlackKnight sort of. Sorry, I got myself there. It's such a such a bad premium. Okay, go ahead. It is a bad premium. And the BlackKnight is also a bad premium. I've that's one that I've like wanted. I've looked at BlackKnight LEs because it's similar to, I mean, Lord of the Rings or games that I love where like I might get the LE just because it's a game I absolutely love. But BlackKnight is one of those where It's a little bit of a transition from the original game to the new game. I've played the LA a lot. I just, yeah.
    30:50
    I don't, um... No, it's bad. It's not the same game. It changes too many. To listen to more about why the Pro is better, aside from Stern saying, hey, we're remaking it, the one that people want, the Pro, go listen to the Deep Dive on Patreon. And if you really want a game, go check out Flippin' Out Pinball, who probably doesn't have any. Kallie Petson, Wissenschaft 테 pencils due to copyrightное終.pc The I'm on an order De Salem Hansen,Missionary And New York Rep 2017 You might be doing more. Plus, Flipped the theme of Guardians of the Galaxies and Star Wars in Star Wars Pro. I think Guardians would be like a keeper like, wow, it's Star Wars with a slightly easier shooter. some more like Guardians has a lot going on in it, and some of the rules are very Star Trek as you know, you know, kinda like to shoot the shot. it's a little shot. yep, there's more there's more to it without getting into Guardians. yeah, we're not doing a Guardians deep dive here. Sorry, everybody. I don't think ever I don't know if I can do it. I'll be like, It's fine. Tonie Sussman, Ken Levine, DeFPokrat, Timim K brekker'nayth Sau precisely'us Not a Black Knight deep dive, but the Black Knight I got from you, you replaced the rubbers, you babied it. Okay, man, I just want to talk about BlackKnight and I don't even think we talked about this in the deep dive but what I was about to get at is the my favorite thing about BlackKnight aside from the simplicity of the rules. My God, I want to play this game so bad right now is it is one of the lightest playfields and I mean that literally when you lift it up and it has this sense of like it's so simple. It's easy to clean. I'm John Papadiuk, WPPRaphrag. Thank you for watching. I'll see you next time. Bye. sole creations персонаж Bretgradingona.com
    34:58
    This isn't a deep thought or anything. I'm just like, why? Why, Jason? There is a couple shots, though, in Venom that I do appreciate.
    35:10
    Let's not even talk about Venom. I'm not talking about Venom. Why do I like it in Black Knight? Is it the whole thing? It's a better game. It's a better game? Must be. Yeah, I mean, it's a better game.
    35:21
    I'm looking at the playfield. It's the center spinwheel, pinwheel, if you will, of how the rules are set up. It's very simple. It's a very goddamn shallow game, hence your callout for a code update, which I hope so as well. And yes, the premium LE has an added catapult multiball, but there's so much charm to its simplicity.
    35:42
    I love the game. To be clear, I don't think it needs a code update. It's just more one of those things like, you know, when you don't need something and someone is like, Thank you for watching. Have fun watching.
    36:52
    This is a production of WPPR.com, not a production of WPPR.com. I think those things are kind of like up and down. You know, they can be positive or they can give you extra incentive. Sometimes that makes games like front loaded if the ball bonus carries all the way through the game. If you take like a Lonnie Ropp thing like in Guardians or Stranger Things where you can build up your bonus I have a question for you. What are the benefits of having a bonus and then it kind of carries with you through the entire game so you get more incentivized to build up your bonus multipliers? Yes. Because it's huge amount of points. Or you can have a thing like Elwin does where like on Jaws for example when you close a beach, you collect the beachgoers and close the beach, you start a beach close hurry up. And when you collect that hurry up for that closing that beach, a percentage of that score Friends at SpRh.com. And thanks to him, we get down to 15K subs for each point for a recent year. Ну party olarak wa bw unlikely wy tactic 약 For more information on this app, click the link in the description below beef www.사를yale Rede capturingasonliensandofonDA youtube.com www. Monroesound.com www.comesound merely.com
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    www.comesoundly.com Tim and I confusing games Do they change what the the active super or is that the spinner man? I haven't owned a black knight in a while
    39:19
    The super there's a super mode of slings So the super lane super sling super spinner super orbits super targets super pops They can be started you could change which one you got but I must Maybe but I felt like a correct us bithodomन Bite friendly If you want a good game, I think you have to avoid quite a bit of that stuff. Like, you've had some pretty good games, right? Like, four or five hundred million? It's been a long time, probably. Yeah, that would be pretty good, I think, if I was just gonna take a guess in the dark. Okay. But like, yeah, I think that it does turn into a game of risk aversion. Yeah. Is what I'm getting at. Like, you're gonna play it safer. You're not gonna do dumb things like that. You know, it's a... But I mean it's good to have a game like that. That's how you play TNA You know, we did a deep dive on TNA and that's very similar Like what do you do in TNA? Oh you trap up get the ball on the right flipper, you know start making some some multi ball locks I black that's very similar
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    Well black night sort of rage is getting a limited run very limited from it seems like from all the distributors So if you want one call around grab one If you hold fleek on 25, people, people, people guys engaged in Sahg bemisd for native voice Jack Lipset parking Rein Arnctus warriors, Adam Laforet of Y.E.M., Barbara夫ťa resurrectionextгляla Black Knight, Ironman, Walking DeadPro are all kind of like the three $6,000 hard games that are like, those should all be traded evenly between each other. Maybe Ironman is the least amongst the least in it, but all scratch a very similar itch at Walking Dead is actually quite a bit deeper than both of them. It's a whole nother. That's a whole nother thing which are doing a deep dive on. But yeah, I man Ironman is so good. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community I think everyone I ever talk to says Abba. But, but, I just... Abba... is there... Here, I'm on Reddit. What is the proper way to say A-B-B-A? Abba. They say Abba. So, okay, let's say it's Abba. Great, now we're correct. Who cares? That's my still feeling on the whole game. I was... I'm in the US, so Abba doesn't tickle my fancy. What do you think of the gameplay, the extremely I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What do you think? You think amazing? With 10 points for delivery. I uh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's gameplay. You know, look. I think compared to I think queen the gameplay I've seen of queen, it looks better. I think the gameplay looks even to some degree. Timothy Kimchiorarrandogebraittens島āA Visit the own Batoo on Twitter at Col υ shifts. I get it. For the people that love it, awesome. And I'm happy this is for you. I'm sure there's huge ABBA fans out there. But this is, as someone who's a musician or into it, not as like a ego thing, but like these kind of things don't do anything for me. We're like, we got these gold records that look like crash cymbals. So when I see this, I'm like, is this Zildjian or Sabian? What are these cymbals? You're hitting on my Rush thing entirely, right? And I know we've talked about this. But I love Rush. That's the thing. I know you love Rush. приех
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    I love the way it shootss. It shootss amazing. I love what Ray Day is doing. I think it's Rayday right on the coat on there. I really enjoy that. He's created a new level of mathematics in that game. It's a really good game, so I don't have to know why there's a Corvette, and I don't care. ABBA, maybe it is for some people, but ABBA is not like prog rock or this isn't an insult. I guess maybe it is where I am, maybe overseas. It's just I don't care. And for, what are they charging? I mean, what? The minimum is six grand. Ten? Get out of here. What are you doing? It's ten something, right? It looks. Ten five. It looks spectacular. Like the lights and like, yeah, I get it. Like, okay, but you're competing with fucking Star Wars and Lord of the Rings as themes and. They're competing against themselves. The same company makes Alien for 8K.
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    Oh, man. And you're a big Alien fan. You've owned it. I think it is a really good game. I think there's a really great game in Alien. And that's where I think some people who haven't maybe played a lot of Pinball Brothers games don't immediately recognize the tech in ABBA when looking at it, because it has the same base tech. It's a different system, I think, but the same base level of tech in terms of inductive sensors, so it doesn't have rollovers, because Alien has induction sensors, and inductive sensors, and then The stand-ups light up. They have LEDs, but they're different. They're not like a regular leaf switch stand up. So they light up with the code and they can be more integrated into the code. Like there is a good base level system. I think some people don't love the flippers on Pinball Brothers games, but this this has two stage flippers more similar to what you're accustomed to. Next, behind the brink of a elector Some of the elector on the elector And maybe still the Ripley edition. I can't answer that. But like, so if you wanted to like slightly stage the right flipper to drop the upper flipper to hit that ramp, you would not be able to do that on most aliens in existence.
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    The okay, thank you. It's a weird thing. Abba. Now I'm saying I don't even like saying Abba. It feels like my mouth is falling. It feels like your baby. Like it feels like yeah, weird baby talk. I don't like it. I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to Abba. I feel better.
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    Hey, you know what? Let's just pretend we're American. You're probably right. Abba. So, on the flip side of my first gut reaction is Abba. Oh, now I feel weird saying Abba. I'm going to switch it around. Abba, Abba, I'll pick and choose.
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    Okay, the scoop. I like a good scoop, contrary to maybe Mr. Keith Elwin. I love the scoop in Deadpool, which is one of my favorites, and this looks to be almost the exact same spot, which I like. The helicopter, don't care. The ramps, it's kind of a fan layout. What I'm getting at is there's a world where yes, I see it, I don't care. That in the future, this becomes a game where like people overlook it, including myself, write it off, but like uh-oh, it turns out to be fucking incredible. Like Black Knight Sword of Rage where like, nah, it's simple, it's whatever, you're paying attention to the wrong thing, the theme, well, the theme of Black Knight's cool, but you know, we're like, nah, we're walking dead. We're like, nah, you know, you don't give the time of the day and then wait, wait, wait, wait, it's a player's game, the rules are incredible, theme aside, Aiden, or like an Iron Maiden. Like, yeah, the theme is not great for everyone, but guess what? That game is fucking 10 out of 10.
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    I see a world where Abba becomes this one where like, like you text like, oh my God, I played it. It's incredible. Or Kale or friends just, you start to be like, oh, it's great.
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    This is a weird one because I hear a lot of people really, really downplaying this game. I think a lot of people like, oh, this is a phoned in. This layout looks terrible. And just looking at the photos of this layout, I'm not ready to say that. igaся تفسيد Carrie andьют spring walk into a üsting equipaje This is not as bad as the Venom layout. Like, I don't... There is interesting things here. I don't 100% agree. And it's not a fan layout. There's a third flipper. And there's a spinner. Like, so that should feel good. There's drop targets. I don't... I'm not gonna immediately write this off. You know, like, when you showed me GNR, right? Like the J.J.P. Guns and Roses. And I looked at it and I saw a scoop in the middle of the playfield. Perfect. I was like, this is awful. I just immediately knew that I would hate playing the game. Oh, look it, that came true. Confirmed. Yeah, it came true. I don't get that from this. Let me toss another layout at you. This is a, for the sake maybe slightly of entertainment, but I'm not lying. I'll be like, oh, a recent Stern or whatever that has a bad layout. And I agree that like ABBA, ABBA has a fine layout and it could be go either way. Let's see what the gameplay happens. Thank you for watching. Timing by David Van Es Knapp Arcade This Week in Pinball Debatte 25 minutes the
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    And. You can click anypecast Or tap the arrow button in the auto-earortal and or tap the lower-back button the button on the other side To gain their support But you just find these really cool places where you do certain things to get the ball to go certain places. Like if the game plays correctly and you hit the real shot, the ball will go over to the little mini flipper, which then you can, if you're building on your shark fin shots, which the multipliers go up the more you make in a row, you can get to try to make that mini lane shot. So there's like weird combos and the quince challenge combos are really fun. I don't know if you've played it enough to kind of get all these things. I haven't. But the quince challenge is that they're right in lane and you have to read how to start it. It kind of tells you. But it then lights shots in different combination orders and then you have to hit those combos. Kind of like a fighting game teaching you how to do a combo. Ah, sure. Yeah. I'm a little light light. The difference there is, I want to pick on that for a second. The things about combos in some of these games where, and I don't know if this is there, but I get combos in fighting games, but there is a layer of combos in fighting games where it's like people just don't want to spend time doing it because it is such a precise, it's a barrier at a certain level. Like it's different, the overall like, let's use like Street Fighter for example, jump Thenya C Horrorха We're like, all right, you have to be very committed to be able to do this. And you're just using buttons. You put that level of combos in pinball where against two buttons, but like physics and all these things, some of that to me is like, yeah, combos is like first Jason. I know that if you are able to do it, you've enjoyed watching some kids soul leave his body as you do a 10 throw combo on Armor King in Tekken. I remember the nine-hit combo as, what's his name? Not DevilKazuya. Jin, who's the other guy? It's been so long. I remember spending just hours in Tekken 2 trying to do this nine or ten-hit combo. Oh my God, with my buddy Brian. The throws, I could do the ten throw combos and I could do the Nina arm break combos where you just like break their arm for 30 seconds while they just sit there and watch you do it. Tom Donahoe,
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    Are the rules though, this is what's kind of getting to me. I again, love pinball. I'm doing a pinball podcast. Let me preface with that before. Oh, you don't understand pinball. I do.
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    Is the rule seem obtuse? Not that I can't keep up with deep rules. For example, similar to Godzilla, Godzilla's a little different work. Godzilla, you just hit a shot and you're qualifying like five different things. It's like that's a different. Okay, I get it. I see why it's the peel of the field of those lovers. I don't like Godzilla. That's a different story altogether. But why I think Jurassic Park is like the sweet spot is like it's a very clear thing of what you're doing, whatever it may be, in my opinion, again, but I played a lot of it. But even the first couple of times when someone explains it to me, ah, I get the majority of the game. I totally get it. Even if I don't know all the perks of the reasons, I get the progression. Out termin rained Comments on summer Can I describe this to someone like me who is just like... It's incredibly easy. I think that what happens is there is a lot of mini games like Quinn's Challenge. I don't think that they hit you the same way that they do in Godzilla like tanks or fighter jets or whatever... Yeah, do it this way. Pick another game that myself and a lot of listeners know, whether it's Godzilla, something that's been... any designer, Tron, Iron Man, Black Knight, try Tim I think it's closer to Jurassic Park and honestly because it's more narrative driven. It is a very narrative rule structure. It's not linear like original Ghostbusters code where you have to play it the same way. But basically you go out on the boat and to a degree you can start a bounty hunt at the right ramp and then you pick what shark you want to hunt for. This is like it just happens while you're playing. I'm going to be playing the game. And the hunt, the shark that you hunt for, you have to, in the top left, like Iron Maiden, it'll say you need one pop bumper, three boats, a hundred spinners. Yeah. Collect those things. Which, let me tell you, before you keep going, and I love this, everything I've seen in that game, that is the one thing that stands out to me of like, that's the only thing I want to do because it makes sense. It's good. But that's the thing is, that's the base level of makes sense. So you're doing that bounty hunt. You start that, start working on that. Knew war u y'ope you bid or u you light canico among the这种 will just call it and there's one bit as well I know why we jestolkoDES apply to remove Mount my life is in school and the stool talking about my Ath This Week in Pinball� And the game with JustBurn at Shin吧 released a然后合기를햅isan할했 tenimis a copy, just a but coming rebus gelernt at the prologue as the title of Knapparuide always Akō yoneistai adultsía response in English and early version, so kya karaiha, weскимasobu kaura-ablesnyuh Koh Lock obliglingiru, chancejustfirey LP 계ű 정부 laureBear,ckem dog, incomimentoanobepaysoh Line kya Thomas Marsiniha, Wen las Honor等一下 E primumallgy cukupileje,��ė preččoh A staliding acts Bullderbe ryal as the re我们 vajENCE éste el Viel extinkTittâta A tolazeichnajá認 O traτεìabi stutičvė gñéčiće a, má chopina sčó troublesges ngo stopping telescript Paypal No faltat Twitter App predators Ur péli. F Zus Mょrde, Knoty H Sr, DeWitt, FNXB Tokalov, Dave отив This Week in Pinball That's why you're kind of incentivized if you're having a really good ball. This is a little bit deeper commentary here, but if you're, you're pretty incentivized where like if you've closed three beaches on and you're playing on a ball, you're incentivized not to close the last beach and start rescue multi ball, which is like a wizard, any wizard mode because you'll lose your bonuses because it resets all the beaches. Yeah, and it's a good call to like not get complicated because it's again like this just seems to me and no, no, no, I appreciate it. I've gotten, I've read it, I've watched, I've asked Joel from Flippin' Out and everyone knows Joel. I've asked you, I've played the game, something's not clicking because either I'm stupid, which is very highly probable. Okay, so... Maybe the narrative is just not clicking with you and that could be... Yeah, give me some clarity here. We hit the encounters, we're searching for sharks, what is that called again? Bounties? Is that right? The bounty hunt? Okay, bounty. I love the bounty hunt. That's the stuff right where you're hitting a few pop-ups. Alright.
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    Okay, so I'm looking at the playfield and when I'm looking at the playfield, I see all this shit that has nothing to do with that. I see 4th of July, I see search, I see barrel hook, I see complete targets, I see tiger, or I see captured Thresher, Hammerhead, Mako, are those the encounters? Tiger, Thresher? I'm pulling it up now because I can't remember. Okay. Those are, if you said Hammerhead, those are the, okay, so those are the bounty hunt sharks at the top right, and if you do all Great White, So, bony hunts, hit some shit, capture a shark, reel it in, multiball, love it. Modes, hit something, do some weird shit, hit some shots, and there's your mode, and then maybe get some points for a while. Alright, so those are two main things. The stand-up targets slash drop targets area, the walking dead area that you're hitting with the right flipper, what is that whole thing for? It's the little blue inserts that you can't read right here, but it's your fish finder radar, and it starts little things like Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    I think that is fish finder that you do I think always you start the you shoot the flashing target and then man I know you start the video mode on the right ramp but I think maybe the other ones are just started. Now you have me curious that I probably wouldn't think about unless I'm playing the game. Well so yeah as someone who doesn't own one going into location the game doesn't tell me half this stuff. I mean it does. standen wrarees of the pocket that shacks No, no, I mean, all the things you're saying is like, yeah, it's like, it's not intuitive. I can't see that stuff. I don't know what to pay attention because all the stuff that your eyes are drawn into is like, oh, this doesn't really explain the game. It's like, okay, so what do I shoot for? Well, the lights kind of change color. And this, again, coming from someone who follows pinball. I don't disagree with you. I, to a certain degree, I think a lot of pinball game rules are very obtuse. I, you know, like, try to understand Jurassic Park or Star Wars. If you don't understand pinball rules, it's impossible. But I think Jurassic Park is the opposite of where there's a lot to it. But if you were to tell me, oh, this map is where you collect dinosaurs. You start a dinosaur. And when you when you start a dinosaur to capture the dinosaur, which is an intuitive thing, like, okay, we want to capture the dinosaurs, rescue three people. The more you go, the more you have to rescue. Keep doing that. And then you beat the game. Cool. Everything else is like, hey, you can hit that you can get more you can boost. But I'm not hearing that in jaws of where like, here's the main thing to do. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    This Week in Pinball, Game of ThronesReporter John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite Transcription roku controversy Anasi backisoétique What's Sharkkage?
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    Sharkkage? Oh, the gear? That's the Gear at the bottom, right? So those six you see at the bottom are for Gear, which are kind of like, I don't know, Gear in a Dwight game almost. Something kind of similar to like Mandalorian. Like they give you benefits. Okay. So you can move them through those with the flipper buttons and then when you have collect gear on the right, you shoot the right ramp, you collect that piece of gear and then they all do something different like the binocular spot extra beachgoers when you hit a beachgoer shot so that way you can close beaches faster. The shark cage might be the one that gives you a ball save when you hit the fin target. And how do you collect these? I know how you collect it, right? The right ramp, you're saying that's how you collect like a dart. How do you qualify the dart to collect it? There is many different ways to
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    collect gear. So I think that you can do it by... Right, that's another part of the obtuse of like all these things. There's a lot of things. I think scoring a quick shot does... I think it's a it's a wheel award, which is only on the premium, right? The upper playfield. I think that you get one for the second I think there's one for maybe completing an encounter. It's more one of those things where like there's so many ways to earn them. You can kind of work on them as you're playing the game. And then, uh, you can, if you're just getting used to playing the game more, you just kind of know, like you see the lit, the light is lit for collect gear and then you collect the gear. But it does have that thing that I do love about these kind of games where you collect these little things that help you through the game where you can, when you collect them all, you can sell them.
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    So that's... I'm a sucker, dude. Every time I'm playing Jaws and I like have like almost a billion points and I get to the end and it's like, would you like to sell all of your gear? And it's all good. It all does great stuff. Every time I'm like, yeah, give me... Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    Principal have and what you love you love you love My thing with this as well is if I was to describe to you how to get gear in Mandalorian or Game of Thrones, it is like you would think. Well, when you collect money, you can spend it in the shop. How do you get to the shop? You hit the scoop that says shop or whatever, you know what I mean. You hit there and then it gives you an option of which one do you want and it tells you what you get. Great. It took under 10 seconds for me to explain that to you. So the stuff in Jaws, everything is like, Thank you for watching. Sometimes it's really hard to learn pinball rules on location when you play 10 games. Like really hard. So but they're asking for 10 grand from each like, alright, well, let me take a whim on I haven't liked what I've played. Let me get 10 grand and then learn it and home and then when someone comes over like a friend who likes pinball, I have a couple people in mind, but not like you or I like, okay, cool. What do I do? Well, sit down. All right. You know what I mean? I have a lot of friends who like pinball a lot, but aren't pinheads. And I can explain Jaws, the simple stuff. I explain to them how to get a multiball, which is very easy to understand, and how to start modes. And they are, they love it. I know everyone says, oh, my new game is always the most popular. I always have new games. I can tell you that people don't like every game I get. And I can tell you which games they don't like. It's odd to me what people like and don't like. But I'm a fan of the Jaws. I've been very popular with people. I think it's just engaging and fun. I like Jaws a lot more and I guess Hot Take. I like it more than Godzilla and I owned Godzilla a long time so you can't tell me otherwise. It's not that I didn't own it. It's not that I own a Jaws now. If I don't like a game, I sell it. If I do like a game, I buy it. I like the way the flippers feel in Jaws much more than Godzilla. They're less droopy. What bothers you about Godzilla? Yep, I, yep, it feels like, yes. Yeah. I like, Jaws has a lot of, I guess maybe it's just the culmination of, I guess to put it simple, to try to put it in a nice little package for you, what I like about Jaws is a lot of the things it has engage with certain things I really like about games. It has a risk and reward functionality with I can sell gear. It has a right in gate like gate where I can try to bump save it back the ball back in but it's not a death save so I don't feel like I'm cheating. It has like a hurry up like the smart missile that I feel really engages me you know with the quick shot for the fin. I like that moment. Hey does yours do the thing? Does it jump? Did you get the No no I don't have that problem but I have worked on it quite a bit but I don't have any huge air balls and I'm going to go ahead and end my reel works. But there is quite a bit of little adjustments you need to make to this game and I think everybody kind of is getting lost in the weeds on what they think is causing the airballs. You're no stranger to giving games shit or being honest with games from since I've known you. You don't hold back or whatever. Not that you shit on games but whatever. Do you think Jaws... Okay, let me ask this in two ways. In a very brief synopsis do you think Avengers Infinity Quest is good Timing and Subtitles by the Amara community
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    tayepforest The same note where the ball goes up there through a normal ball path, right? It's not a go up to the upper playfield. It's in the ball path. And then all it does is add to the game. It goes up there. You make a couple of quick hits at something and then you're back to the game. And that's what Jaws is. It, it has some different ball paths where it has a wheel up there and it has a couple of ramp shots, and then you're back in the game. And I, I like that. I think that as a package, Jaws is hitting all the notes. In a game like AIQ, it misses a lot of them. Yes. I think the rules are convoluted and I get that some people really love that and I think it's good to have a game for those people. You're saying Avengers convoluted? Yeah, Avengers. I think it's good to have a game that even I think is too complicated for those people that want that. I think the asset package I hate. It really, look, there's different art everywhere. There's different art on the playfield. There's different art on the screen at different times. Clearly, this is just Marvel's clip art Avengers package.
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    I, everything about it, the callouts, I just don't care for much of, yeah, it's a good layout. Yeah. Put it on. lloyds.gif and голос.z� tak이지 commonly이�sex jours senses I spent one day machines that has always Italia April optimizing followed do you a gift j Anda k Recordai Kimie Jruan Gm This�� I think Godzilla's bad. I've never said that. No, I don't either. Nope, same. Well, the reason I'm so whatever is I'm looking for a game, another great one to play for a while. I mean, maybe it's John Wick when it gets run next month. I mean, assuming it's John Wick, which I'm tentatively excited for. Well, let's speedrun. Let's speedrun. We've gotten really into the weeds. We're going to speedrun everything that you want to talk about. John Wick, Stern, who's making it? Do you care?
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    I care about the game because I think it's going to be those ones. I think it's going to be something that has a better chance of me liking than Jaws, and that's not because of theme. I think Jaws is great. I love the music. The movies are great. But I've played the game and it hasn't done it for me. Something about Jurassic Park, even when I played it, there's still something that it did for me that kept me going. Maybe I'll love Jaws. I hope I do. I think John Wick, I think people are sleeping on how good the music in John Wick is. I think it's good music. I think it's exciting. It's upbeat. It will play well. I think it'll be fast. This Week in Pinball, Game of Thronesucklandourturnate title or abbreviation for Retro Atistoireprenometric This Week in Pinball, Game of Thrones�rantate title or abbreviation for Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra, Tantra. I mean, yeah. Muppets makes more sense than Matrix. I honestly, they do Wizard of Oz, they do Toy Story. Muppets makes so much sense. For people spending 13 grand, I guess. I do. The old look. If you go back in time, when Wizard of Oz came out, people loved that. But Wizard of Oz is timeless. Why is Wizard of Oz timeless but Muppets isn't? Because Wizard of Oz has fear, humor, Thank you for watching. I think that that's the difference with children's content in the 80s. Skeksis are fucking dark as shit. Skeksis, yeah, look. Henson in the 80s was doing some stuff. But like, I think Muppets has a realness to it. I think that all of his stuff does. I think that you see Kermit be sad. I think there's a lot of moments in like Muppets Take Manhattan. I think a lot of that stuff dealt with bigger issues. You know, like Mr. Rogers Sure is far more progressive than anything we're doing today. I would 100% take a Mr.ondere vectors over a muppets. Muppets, the most I ever liked about the Muppets were Muppet Babies, and when Muppet Babies did like Star Wars episodes. Well, why do I feel like I'm defending Muppets here? It's not like I'm going to buy a Muppets pinball machine. Because you are! I don't know why you are defending Muppets. It's fucking stupid. Because I think it's a— I guess I'm putting it in this thing where I'm like, I don't personally think Muppets is a worse theme
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    Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community I do not think the Muppets would sell better than the Matrix. Oh, okay. Well, anyone rewinding. If that's what's happening here. I think that's what you said. We're leaving it in. Wait, did I say that? Oh, no, no. I might not be listening. I think it's better than Wizard of Oz. I think you might have said Matrix, but okay, yeah. I think it's better than Wizard of Oz. I think it's better than Toy Story. I think it's better than Elton John. Okay. I think Muppets for JJP is like a really, honestly, Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    I think everybody knows who the Muppets are. Yes. I think they have a cultural relevance. I, to your point, Kermit. They're fun. They're fun. Everybody likes a Muppet. If I was like, hey, who's your favorite Muppet? Someone's going to say something. They're going to, they know the names of these characters. They like animal. They like whoever it is. Everybody likes somebody different. I think that they're easily definable and easily recognizable. While I don't think it's the Matrix, it's just not. I think the Matrix is going to Flappy Jr.:
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    Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community You love the Muppets. It's great. It's fun. Yes, it is. Then go spend 13 grand on it. Well, no, I'm not going to do that because that's fucking ridiculous. Right. No, that's what I'm saying. What are we doing here? I could make a pinball machine. Let me look around my room. I'm looking. Okay. I have a super. Oh, yeah. I mean, if they make a Superman, I got Superman that my buddy Mark Lone drew. Go check out Mark Lone art online, but I got a Slimer point, Jason. Like, I think it's pretty simple. If you are you going to buy a JGP for 13 grand just in a vacuum Matrix? Yes. No, just yes. Any. 무� clauseTEAM fromеру can UK
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    All of this, in a way, illustrates what a commissions myślę are some of theuri of the show. But I'm shitting on Muppets. We would like 13,000 of your dollars. Elton John, who I would argue is bigger than the fucking Muppets, isn't, you know, selling a lot. Uh, GNR, uh, Godfather? Nah, but like, what? No. I also don't like the game. Godfather? No. I mean, come on. Yeah, I'm just not a fan. Everyone was nice about it and whatever. It sucks because none of this is against people who designed the games because it's such a small hobby. David Van Es, Knapp Arcade. theresa Kardashian andwnie Betweenهم становится plebeianuk, Lindsdav켜 otrovne descobrirrien tenderlands 在r metaphoriskijekrenneSchooley Jacky Patrik 점f, Jan Grandbej olvid krieciezucht Eyna donc Considerken Hermann, Antoine McWhan liking karácsettiaýnń수� On most television視นะ ह₍₃olerney잖아₁₊ال Arinbesondere because of their I got some Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth, um, or not Battle for Middle Earth, Armies of Middle Earth in case I get a Lord of the Rings again because I'm insane. I got the little toys in package. I got a lightsaber I did in Galaxy's Edge, so Star Wars. And I got a Star Trek The Next Generation customizable card game rulebook from like the 90s that my buddy's like, hey, maybe we should play Star Trek again. All right. Themes. Uh, I got a Switch box. I got a PlayStation. I got a Batman. I can see in the comic book thing. The point is I don't see Muppets. Visit butteckayer ما켜샴 quién gkmttttgeу bñgºiošṇ conscience Divine c craichted リバー I'm just really confused why we don't get any DC. Are they just impossible to deal with? I mean... Please write in if you have any, if you want to be anonymous and write in about the licensing of DC because I can't believe it either of that. Superman would fucking kill. That's timeless. Batman would slay. That's also timeless.
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    As long as it's not dog shit, but if it was dog shit, it's as weak of a theme. Avengers is arguably an incredible thing. I'm just going through the DC characters, right? Because I don't think Flash is going to do it. I don't think Green Lantern's going to do it. Oh, like Move Games? I don't know if Wonder Woman's going to do it. Nah, the only thing that's going to do it, Batman, Superman, or if you did like a Justice League BatchinredNation Other click supporter You can do the comic version or the Mark Hamill version. Pick your Joker. Joker would do great. Batman is an iconic enough character where you can do a pinball machine just on one story. Like you could do a killing joke or a hush or... I'm sorry, I'm going deep nerd here. No, no, I'm following. I think you can do... Long Halloween would be pretty great. It'd be so good, right?
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    I don't know why they're not doing it. I... This has got to be a licensing reason. I seriously can't. It has to be. But back to your point about the video games. I think it's coming as far as video game themes. Well, they're breaking through in media. We were talking about Fallout. Video games have permeated all of society at this point. Last of Us was huge. Mario. Mario was huge in theaters. Sonic. Sonic is big. I think that we're finally hitting the saturation point where they are big enough where why can't you do a Sonic pinball machine? There's a third movie and a TV show coming out. They'll do video game shit soon enough. And I want to end on something that is very particular to this show. To all of those things, the themes that are current to you, myself, and a lot of people listening, what we'll buy, what we'll spend money on, the things that we've listed akin to that. The only anecdotally data I have on who is very active in pinball is from our deep dives. A HI Itt praying respectful 키
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    A little fun. But, you know, I'm curious, though. What do you think people would think, as I said, is like, you'd think are in here spending money? No one. No one joined, when, like, that is arguably the most popular pinball game of all time, to say that the people actively listening and wanting to spend money on this stuff and what they want to hear is recent stuff that mimics what we like in this current generation, I'm 41, of, grew up in the 80s, like this stuff, we're willing to engage in media, spend P end I think that our Adam's Family podcast was very good. This Week in Pinball, Game of Thrones uninticipated by the way, I think it's actually a pretty I really enjoyed doing it. And I think it went pretty well. But you know, my my ultimate goal, we need to get Jason some Gucci loafers. Okay, people. Like he's never gonna get those Gucci loafers if you don't sign up to his Patreon. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community Contact Cannob spaghettiov you become occu Did the I see it from buying and selling and trading. I've been in all collectible markets. I have this weird, I mean obviously like you, I collected comic books. I'm always waiting for the shoe to drop on a collectible market when nostalgia is no longer prevalent, right? And that's what's happening. I think that might be what's happening. I think like in comic books, the Silver Age comics, if you didn't read a comic when you were eight, you know, at the comic book stand. Oh yeah, you don't care. Raza��,
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    Thank you for watching! Crapman, Knapp Arcade. Just that the Addams Family didn't bring in anything. And the ones that you wouldn't think would, like TNA brought in more than AddamsFamily. Star Wars brought in fucking way more.
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    And but Star Wars, again, to the pin side is like, oh, that game sucks shit. Hmm. Well, people seem to love listening to the game and thinking about it because the theme is so popular, which is AddamsFamily a better shooting? Yeah. I mean, take that for what you what you will. This Week in Pinball, Game of ThronesReporter John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteelectronic who בת bagus Safari So I because I was but loans And I I What there Because I want a reason to buy it, give me a reason to buy it. So, whilst we were talking about it, I was texting Zach Menne from Flippin' Out Pinball saying, Hey man, can I buy a Jaws Premium because I'm psyched up and all this, can I buy one? He said, absolutely. I said, well, please sign me up for a Jaws Premium. I'm psyching myself in and out, I don't know what I'm doing. So I'm buying a Jaws Premium from Flippin' Out Pinball, which I suggest all of you do if you would like a Jaws Premium, a Jurassic Park Premium. I know he was saying about it earlier, and I know you had a good time listening to it, but truly, I've worked with a lot of distributors out there. Yes, they're a sponsor of the show, so I say this, but even when I have questions about games, not rules and shit, but hey, when is this run coming? Can I get this? What if this happens? Honestly, no one's better out there than Flippin' Out Pinball, Zach. So, thank you, Zach, for hooking me up. For all those in the Midwest, I'd say Wisconsin, Minneapolis, Tip�면 trouve sign with lumbin débitỏi il bino center fearless look for me probably selling at jaws premium than in the next month because I play a game for a week or so play the shit out of it and enlisted probably listed for a good price. So yeah, I'm excited to get a jaws premium and you know next week or the couple weeks after. I think it's on the line in the next week or so, hopefully I get to chance to play the shit out of it and give an updated. Opinion on it. So I'm excited. I didn't mean to interrupt my own show but from talking about jaws so much and then having a fantastic buying experience with flip인데xe I'm John Papadiuk, and I'll see you next time. I buy from flippingout. From Toppaz ArtBlade Premiums. I've got it figured out. flippingout. figured out. When I think of pinball I think flipping out. figured out. When I buy buy buy, I buy from flipping out.