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SDTM Episode 45: Guardians of the Galaxy Pinball Machine Review

Straight Down the Middle·video·46m 49s·analyzed·Dec 28, 2017
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TL;DR

SDTM reviews Guardians: beautiful art/toys but lacks shot originality and rules depth.

Summary

Zach and Greg from Straight Down the Middle review Stern Pinball's Guardians of the Galaxy (2017), designed by John Borg with rules by Lyman Sheets and art by Christopher Franchi. They praise the artwork as A+ quality and the Groot toy sculpt as exceptional, but criticize the shot layout for lacking originality and the rules code (currently at v0.73) for being generic and mode-based without standout features. Overall assessment is mixed with praise for aesthetics offset by concerns about gameplay depth and originality.

Key Claims

  • Guardians of the Galaxy is being reviewed at v0.73 code, with v0.80 downloading as they speak

    high confidence · We're reviewing it at point seven three code and right now as we're speaking... point eight o code downloading

  • Christopher Franchi's artwork for Guardians is superior to his earlier work and more toned down and beautiful than initially expected

    high confidence · I'm actually pleasantly surprised... it's actually a little more toned down and just a lot more beautiful... Frankie did an even better job than what I initially thought

  • The shot layout is not original and plays similarly to Iron Man with tight, challenging shots

    high confidence · It's nothing really original... it plays Tee'd Off me a lot like the speed of Iron Man... very tight orbits

  • The rules code is generic and similar to Aerosmith, with modes that lack distinguishing features

    high confidence · There's a lot of similarities with the code and Aerosmith... you don't have these side modes... nothing stands out

  • The Groot toy sculpture is one of the best Stern has produced and rivals Jersey Jack Pinball quality

    medium confidence · Just for the most at Stern... I'Stern 'AC/DC (Pro Vault Edition)' seen 'in there' or similar interjection a long time I think that group sculpture is one of the greater its that's sculpt worthy

Notable Quotes

  • “I'm actually pleasantly surprised because it's actually a little more toned down and just a lot more beautiful and the faces and stuff are there a lot more detailed and Frankie did an even better job than what I initially thought”

    Greg @ ~09:00 — Establishes high praise for Christopher Franchi's artwork quality despite initial concerns

  • “It's nothing really original... when we have tight shots and it's not super original I think it's a solid b-plus”

    Zach @ ~18:30 — Core criticism of the shot layout and its impact on overall game rating

  • “There's a lot of similarities with the code and Aerosmith... I do prefer this code over Aerosmith because these are more mode based so you're seeing action rather than just hearing guys dancing on a van for a song”

    Greg @ ~25:00 — Acknowledges code similarities to prior Stern titles while defending mode-based approach

  • “The Groot sculpture is one of the greatest sculpts that's sculpt worthy... the eyes are so realistic, so alive”

    Zach @ ~32:00 — Highlights exceptional toy quality as standout mechanical element

  • “We're reviewing it at point seven three code... if you're gonna charge $5,400 we're gonna review it”

    Greg @ ~23:00 — Establishes pricing justification for reviewing incomplete/beta code state

Entities

Straight Down the MiddlemediaGuardians of the GalaxygameStern PinballcompanyJohn BorgpersonChristopher FranchipersonLyman SheetspersonZach MinneypersonGreg Boneperson

Signals

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    sentiment_shift: Pinside community response to game splits between those praising songs/call-outs and those criticizing them as stupid or insufficient

    medium · Here's my impersonation of Pinside: stupid songs... not enough songs... no call outs

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    design_philosophy: Shot layout lacks originality relative to prior Stern designs (Iron Man, Metallica); tight shot requirements limit flow for non-expert players

    high · It's nothing really original... plays a lot like Iron Man... shots are so tight... there's so many brick shines that it kills some of flow

  • ?

    product_strategy: Guardians rules architecture shares substantial code similarities with Aerosmith; lacks distinctive side modes or standout mechanics compared to other Stern titles

    high · There's a lot of similarities with the code and Aerosmith... you don't have these side modes... nothing stands out

  • ?

    product_concern: Christopher Franchi's Groot toy sculpture represents one of Stern's highest-quality mechanical executions, rivaling Jersey Jack Pinball premium toy standards

    high · The group sculpture is one of the greater... that's sculpt worthy of... Jersey Jack Pinball... the eyes are so realistic, so alive

  • ?

    product_concern: Rules code at v0.73 contains bugs affecting mode timing (120-second modes ending in 5 seconds); mode durations appear inconsistent and require fixes

    high · The modes are too long like you'll start a mode and it'll say like 120 seconds... if you have five seconds the modes are over

Topics

Artwork and Visual Design QualityprimaryShot Layout and Playfield DesignprimaryRules Code and Game ModesprimaryToy Mechanics and InnovationprimaryBeta Code State Impact on ReviewsecondaryMusic and Call-outssecondaryComparison to Other Stern Titlessecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.62)— Strong praise for artwork, cabinet aesthetics, and Groot toy sculpt (A/A+ ratings) significantly offset by criticism of shot layout originality, rules depth, and generic code design (B-/B+ ratings). Reviewers appreciate execution of individual elements but express disappointment with overall originality and gameplay innovation. The game is functional and attractive but fails to distinguish itself from prior Stern titles.

Transcript

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hey gray hey what you know who I am Groot damnit no it's good I didn't think you'd ever knit that ah I am Groot yeah this is Zack and Greg was straight down the middle of pinball show we are gonna review guardians of the galaxy today aren't we so how many games have you put on you probably put about 30 yeah about 30 games not a ton but I you know I've probably sat out here and put over a hundred it's a game that you just want to keep going back to I will agree with it's brutal and you just want to keep progressing further and further so you just keep hitting that starter button right II do agree and it keeps pissing you off job makes me mad yes or no I enjoyed that god I just want to get a little further and a little further and I can't get a little further yeah yeah if I had more time operated more piss it's a game you're gonna move to isn't it yes you gotta move that game it's kind of ghost ghost yeah that's what I was gonna say it's Pierson yeah hold on tight cuz here we go you've got to move it we can say this out of the gate to me uh-huh it does not feel like Metallica oh look at you breaking news it honestly feels more on I get more feel of Iron Man no you don't keep hearing ghostbusters you just said Ghostbusters left at outdrink and that's just top tight shots like they made Buster's so that that's kind of the more feels that I have it to me it feels nothing like me it gives me the feels it really does and it starts with the art package and different things like that we're gonna talk about that but first we're gonna go to the game itself I'm going to you got you want to do the overview of this but no come on Greg come on no I'm gonna give me an overview I'm gonna give you the overview of it I'm gonna tell you the rules that are in it just the different layouts and then we'll come back and we'll rate it how about that sound good buddy sounds great whoo married everybody the quick and dirty on guardians of the galaxy this is a machine produced by Stern pinball 2017 designed by John Borg rules by Lonny Rob or by Christopher Franchi basic fan layout two flippers and in typical SDTM overview fashion we're gonna go from left to right all right from left to right you've got to crank it up shot it goes in that little alley and hits a target you've got your guardians of the galaxy crew stand up target right there I've lit it with the LED in the back there to really brighten that up you're saying if you get your left orbit the Ronin shut and this actually back here is the yondu shot but the rolling shot is the left orbit goes up and round there's a controlled post in the back of it knee in the back if it needs to uh if it needs to stay to the left and vice-versa Drax is the right orbit up and around that way your rocket shot right here see rocket rocket rocket shot is a kickback probably the fastest in pinball it's responsible for rampage as well if you hit it enough you get 2 times playfields Court stand up targets are all for the Hadron enforcer those are uses kind smart bombs or spotting shots if you qualify enough left ramp is the nebula shot a really cool shot goes up behind the backboard comes back down safely to your left flipper okay back up here we've got the main toy of the game which is Groot
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    sentiment_shift: Initial impression of Guardians' visuals exceeded expectations; reviewers were pleasantly surprised by Franchi's restraint and quality rather than expecting oversaturation

    high · I'm actually pleasantly surprised because it's actually a little more toned down and just a lot more beautiful

    • 5:42
    very nice detailed let's get in here real quick leave those details sculpted perfectly but you hit his mouth once he opens up and then you can hit it again to lock calls all right pop bumpers and rollovers up top they're exiting the pop bumpers to the right orbit or to the left in traditional fashion here's their workshop it's pretty cool little toy on the Premium le and will open up once you qualify at work but it's a drop target and a little dirt of a post there so yes nonetheless drop target is up you hit the drop target down you hit it back in there to hit the stand-up target to qualify the shot that holds it releases it that's your lock one you do that three times and you'll start to warp multi-ball right ramp is the gomorrah shot again similar to the left it goes up behind that back and comes back down safely to your right flipper now I've let the the ramps in the back up a little bit to create a cool effect don't know how video video messes everything up we're cheap cheap is cinematography does rather all right there's that right orbit again you do have a scoop in the game alright so the scoop is responsible for upgrades mode select mystery and your extra ball I find it kind of tough to hit actually that is the star-lord shot typical in lanes in Lane here at Lane there you do have virtual saves by hitting the stand up targets to the left and right of crew you can light like in many stirring games of virtual safe where if that is lit and you drain right there you'll get another chance another kick out over here you've got two in legs one out Lane look at all that metal that creates havoc as you're trying to save the ball you do have a little rubber up top there though all right so what's the point of this game what are you trying to do okay so what you're trying to do in this game you are trying to complete all eight modes
    8:24
    antiquity shop pod chase sanctuary Yakka arrow sibling rivalry escape kiln nowhere and quills quest alright you're also trying to get through the orb multi ball and group multiple if you can start all eight modes and both multi balls I believe you get to emulation initiative if you can complete all eight modes and complete both multi balls you get to save as and are pulls in all right so pretty basic code it's not heavily coded yet we're still waiting does have for quality songs in it alright Greg and I are going to go back and we're gonna review the art to lay out the the rules enjoyability etc but Oh Greg how pretty is my machine I like so do you like the mods on the machine because I actually do I was saying that about your plastic protector since then I said that was those those fluorescent plastic protectors it was honestly like something that needed to come from the factory it's one of those mods ok did you not think like actually I kind of feel that machine would seem fairly I got on the inside I was posting somebody tears and he was like you need to tone down on all that lightning good late games bright enough tone down on all of it it's a little bit too much and I'm like I said I respectfully disagree I think it's freaking view it is the dream like as you put in there and stuff reloading now if you guys have a guardians of the galaxy this is really simple sorry diesel or whoever selling these things for more expensive just go to comment Inbal buy a little strip lighting of green comment matrix you tap it into a bulb or a alligator clip and under it you can just like duct tape it on to a group and he shines green right out of his mouth whenever a ball is to lock yeah but I like your monster they're all taste thank you and I'll save this for the Arts okay oh okay well let's get to it man let's get to our let's start out with art where were you at on art well I was with it Edmond a sir okay that is very good it is it's beautiful I told Zach this when I first came in I said I'm actually pleasantly surprised because Leslie surprised no we loved it well we loved it and and that's what was surprising about it is honestly it's it's actually a little more toned down and just a lot more beautiful and the faces and stuff mm-hmm are there a lot more detailed and Frankie did an even better job than what I initially thought that he did on it that's high praise yes now that being said I will have to throw out my one complaint yeah well it's not much of a complaint yet nail no no it's fantastic what doesn't make it an A+ I have a slight very slight distaste with the cabinet not the art the art is beautiful but it's a little bet that portion I will have to agree the cabinet is just a hair too bright and vibrant for me I love the playfield colors I love the vibrancy of the playful colors the back glass everything else but in conjunction with the cabinet it's a hair too in conjunction in conjunction look at this you scholar you yes sir alright so everyone once in a while Greg's right about things and I have to admit with you buddy on this one again you're wrong dumb like these are packages Christopher Francie knocked it out of the park again this dude I love denier and at this point everybody know everybody already you said it was a bit much just the camera okay that's just down the side just down the side that's like saying you know I like steak is there anybody else I like just eight ounce a shake not twelve that skull passes to succulent savory if you want a good chicken so I'm speaking I'm sorry guys what kind of steak guy are you what do you mean Oh t-bone really you go just have to have him your name t-bone oh it's just good you got to start pulling that's got Tebow oh my god you know it's kids it's not the fattiest thing it's got a little fat I agree it's not the most tender steak let's go what's the worst thing I'm not much of a sirloin chop steak kind of guy sirloin is like the McDonald's of the food it's it's the top sirloin is it's okay it's okay oh the top okay you're definitely right I know where I'm seeing some [ __ ] that matter something that man no you cut me up about food all cuz reaching hate you are a plus it's an A plus there's not a lot of our packages wait for it on any pinball machine cabinet playfield back glass head decals better like this in my pain now name one just name any pinball machine any think of it anything in pops in your head hurry man sixty-six tag names come on it's another friend it looks better than that 966 Ghostbusters it's pretty good that one rivals it that one rivals it good job each from your home buddy that one I would say those two
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    Arrowsmith uh uh what I was gonna say it really is I'm kind of an oddity when it comes to cabinets I feel that I'm one of very very few I'm definitely in the minority I feel that cares egregiously you know about my gains well not only that I care about the condition of my my cabinets I care about the artwork that's actually on there like I said like the name that's on there like the name of the pin or the theme I think I'm one of the only people that really cares about that I can't tell you what's your favorite part about this art package I feel playfield okay I agree yeah my field is its stellar it is beaut thank de los oh yeah there's another Rakow there's not really much the beats ooh yeah it is beautiful I won't ever sing a Greg when we're talking about the play field in general what is your favorite part on that play because it it is loaded down it's like a dirty Donnie zombie Yeti they all fill it up mine is the drain that star-lord helmet right there was inserts that shine I do like use your but like the Roman you like Roman a big hammer yeah it kind of stands out to me I don't know I don't know if it's because he's kind of off up to that left a little bit by itself and and then the magnet helps draw attention to it but yeah there's something visually like striking are these a striking character in the yeah I did two films as well so I mean I now on this last time when we were given our first impressions video from the pictures you said those mode the mode render mode will play feel do not bother me okay in person no okay I minded 100% change okay I do not think that that is a full I wonder on the pin yeah I wondered that about cuz it that you said that I thought I wonder what it'll look like out of box you they don't stand out like I thought they would huh the cohesion of that play field in the artwork is true it's it's I thought it was gorgeous and fantastic before but again in person it is it is twice as good as what I no complaints if you guys want to see a more in depth look of the just the details of this artwork of Christopher franchise check out our previous video for the first impressions of guardians of the galaxy where we show a little bit of Easter eggs as well a full plastic or package as well as a play field and stuff like the plastics are really great on this I do have to say like the plastics are actually phenomenal because with the cassette and stuff in the back I like that little sneak peek yeah I like that we don't have those photoshopped faces yes so you don't have to worry about the lighting you guessing that there are a lot of hexagons a lot of patterns that yes pull it all yeah it's very nice I mean cabinets beautiful the head big house beautiful translate translate means lodges it is fantastic a
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    plus let's go shots and lay out so this is the Metallica Iron Man baby yes okay where were you at on shots and link definitely have some gonna be your to be yes you know I'm gonna be plus yes hmm are we not at 8 as well as I say why are we not a scene but let you you leave this one big I want to know why that you because ok you shot some land here's what I look for when I'm looking for shots and layouts I'm looking for flow yes alright and if I don't have flow I want unique shots yes so for this it plays to me a lot like the speed of Iron Man yes it's brutally fast that rocket shot is mmm I love it the ramps are super smooth I love those very god I love the or dropped I love how tight the route shot is it's not a wide open shot like Sparky it's a tight little shot it is the crank it up shot to the left alley yes again very tight orbits tight yes that's why wouldn't be plus number one it's nothing really original it's nothing original I can't give it if I'm going eh I've got to have it if it's not original that suckers got a flow mm-hmm if I'm going original it can have a little bit some tight shots yeah when we have tight shots and it's not super original I think it's a solid b-plus it's a fun shooting game it's super challenging you guys those shots that rocket shot is the tightest shot on the game it is in in the tight shots as much as I enjoy them at the same time is what knocked it it down to me okay there's not enough flow because you have got to have supreme accuracy to get any kind of flow on the game you know what Steve Richards they write play better not agree if you if you are tremendous player you'll get flow you will there's nothing wrong with that well you I was watching you play you hit three ramps in a row and your face lit up a little bit because it is hard to get flow on those ranges they're so tight that's one of those things it kind of reminds me of ghostbusters again like it's when you hit a shot you feel good but the shots are not necessarily easy you can't mention flow and Ghostbusters than the same so that's what I'm saying there's not like it's that there's a lot of she would flow you can flow this game if you're a good shooter but you got to be a really good shooter because all the tights are so with all the shots are so tight and there's so many brick shines that it I don't know it's just something it just kind of kills some of it for me the special shots in this game for the rocket shot to ramp shots that's it nothing original no that we've seen this layup well I enjoy that which is what I like the alien the alien pit yes because it was a kind of a clunk monster but it was so original and so different and you didn't feel those shots in pinball I do agree because if you were to say okay alien aliens o'clock there's a lot of bricks this again there's a lot of bricks so explain the difference to me about why they would enjoy alien more but it's like you said the shots on alien or so much more unique and the fact that I'm not a wide-body fan again the fact that it's a wide-body and have a little more space to work it makes alien to me quite a bit more enjoyable in the shots yeah even though in there are tight shots and they're hard shots you've got to be a good shooter yeah it just doesn't seem you seem like you make it more progress in Alien I can't give it an a it's nothing new it's nothing fresh but the orbits you hit two orbits a row then you hit a ramp shot that feels like it's gonna go through that backboard oh it's fun the rates are some it's it's really tough it's really fun it's very challenging shots land let's go rules Oh surely it's not even at one point oh no suggesting that it's just beta code right now yeah so why are we reviewing remind the people well because its initial impressions in a sense of the the play I mean it's the game that was released it's what people are playing it's what's being shipped and it's what I'm I just start stirring charging right are they letting you borrow it because it's beta code no what are they charging the default one of dollars right if you're gonna charge $5,400 we're gonna review it that's right so we're reviewing it at point seven three code and right now as we're speaking i've got point eight o code downloading we're gonna have an honor street no all right so point seven three memory - okay I am ant I'm gonna be - as well that's that's pretty mean it's kind of mean but it's it's one of those games it's my chief complaint and Star Wars or Star Trek okay and it's sort of like that with this currently you you do have some particular shots that you have to hit but it's more or less hit the lip shot and you get a bar you're saying that with the different modes nothing distinguish it distinguishes it from it yes I don't have this this this shot this shot this shot this shot I hit this shot it goes out now get these shots to complete yeah it's if I hit this shot then more shots might light up and I just have to hit enough shots to complete to complete the mode it's it's not it's not that Jeremy that you I think it's a particular that's very valid each of the modes there is a little little bit that distinguishes like sibling rivalry from your like pod chase opens all the shots up at the initial instead of an apple but you're right essentially you're opening up a mode and you've got a shitload of shots - it's not as big as what I'm explaining yeah but it is in a sense the rule so I'll give you synopsis of the rules there's eight modes you start all a modes you get to the mini wizard mode if you complete all eight modes you get to the final wizard mode and in that that you gotta open up both multi balls as well to get to that mini wizard and you have to complete those multi balls to get to the ultimate wizard mode you got to multi balls you got brutal people which are great monkey balls they're fun they're a lot of fun again a lot of the same we are filling a lot of the same stuff from Lonnie Rock Aerosmith there's a lot of similarities with the code and Aerosmith in this I do prefer this code over Aerosmith I think in the long haul because these are more mode based so you're seeing action rather than just hearing yes guys dancing on a van for a song so it's a little more satisfying to me there multi-ball on arrow Stan that's gonna be right now it's coded a little better than this one but the startup orb multi-ball in there it is very special because you can lock 3 balls I like or multi ball rules that's right like that you hit that it's like the Denis Eli you hit that drop target it allows the ball out and it adds the ball there's plenty to do don't get me wrong but nothing stands out you don't have these side modes you don't have one of the cool things that I do like with the code and I like where it's going is that when you complete a mode you have two options group you can continue down that mode in the second series so sanctuary will become sanctuary - oh yeah you told me about where you have to hit so many shots to get your supers lit so you have to hit 50 pop bumpers you got to hit ten ramps or you can opt to go back to the scoop to start yeah erm oh I like that I do like that I think the rules are solid in this yeah but the problem is they there's a number of problems as I'm playing it like for example no as we're playing it with 0.73 code whenever you start your new ball if the mode starting the timers already going that's a problem things like thing but that's also a bit and see I don't harp on that but no no we have to we're grading this as the code is right now that's why I made it be - cuz otherwise the skeleton of the code I'm fine with it's no Lyman sheats it's always gonna be this basic you're having fun you're trying to get to the wizard mo nothing's nothing special and unique what Ronnie doesn't really well is multi-ball rules yeah I found over the last couple titles that he's had he does a really really good job with pulling you into mole feel that another problem on the newest code that seven three instead of a No they might have fixed it but were rated as it is now the modes are too long like you'll start a mode and it'll say like 120 seconds and you're like wait a minute that's not right and then if you have five seconds the modes are over and you drain a ball your next ball add like 40 more seconds you're like yeah this isn't right yeah so it's got some buggies he's got some buggies as a B - right now we may go back and change that later on I'm sure to change toys and innovation so force turn all of us were saying Stan we need some toys start and stop at the plastics we need something that looks good did they deliver ah yes okay what you give them I given B plus all right that doesn't sound stellar that's pretty good but it's it's not bad the the lack of innovation is worth it I feel okay I felt that it it didn't fail I felt that's the lack thereof but I thought there was a lot of poise I mean you get the rocket kick back you got Groot which is pretty damn cool you get that orb drop car getting stuff you got a scoot it's a skewness normal stuff but I mean it's innovation the LCD screen LCD this would come in normal so I don't take LCD into account as agitation any longer gotcha um the rocket kick package is so fast oh but yeah I mean they're good boys it there's a lot going on you say b-plus is solid yeah I don't yeah I don't think I was you mean I went up a little bit higher now I'm an a - one of the things for me to say an a over B is the quality of that group sculpt oh yes gorgeous but it's what people call poor there's one of those things that kind of art are a sin and the are beginning the arms up really curtains curtains for me yeah get your little rocket on top and stuff like it's yeah it's like that's what we won't call for yeah I mean for a pro I think it's a beautiful front oh yeah X just for the most at pros I've seen in a long time I think that group sculpture is one of the greater its that's sculpt worthy of back le stuff with jersey jack the eyes are so is so realistic yeah so alive like so I can't give it a B just because the group it is that well done you guys yeah just beautiful if you see in real life it is beautiful how the mechanism works very well it's perfect yeah it's it works perfect he is literally I came to say that that was that laughing he's eating balls okay he's eating balls right so what you like this pins no it's a physical ball lock I like that most believers are it's a physical ball log Greg really do we why do we it's every video we bit to this us doing in you into a ball eating or do you you don't okay sorry sorry just check the ball no but it is cool how much do we want strange new physical ball locks and you never do yeah yeah it's physical ball one yeah I agree I was gonna say freaking fantastic the three ball then into the four ball multi-ball with it I got think it's love it I love it love 11 let's not make you complain let's go music and call out everybody rips on it okay here's my impersonation of pin side I'm up inside - I love it you guys are on pins over here you know songs now yeah songs okay starting get some songs stupid songs there's stupid songs and in here there's and then they go not enough songs nah I'm not done yet not enough songs and then they go no no call outs no call out so give me colos stupid call outs they're dumb call outs a bubbly buh buh dum call outs alright you guys please make sure to include Zach minis name in the heading this is the first hate basically usually usually I'm busting Stern's balls a little bit because I'm like you guys come on so well this one I'm like these guys can't win okay they can't win for [ __ ] I do agree with you I have to say that that I I think some of the Stern bashing on this one actually somewhat uncalled for because the only reason I say because is because they they seem to somewhat listen some attention maybe someone have asked but they did seem to listen that when people pulled for something they at least put effort into it instead of saying off you know what I'm saying like so but no no that's not fair that's [ __ ] they put effort into it it looked good effort into it there's a lot of call-outs in this game are they the best reproduced voice actors and that's not a lot of how do we know maybe they couldn't get the Ottoman no it's very true yeah I'm not gonna there's so much stuff that goes like I know I know from just film productions and stuff alone commercials and different things with rights that there there's a ton of behind the scenes [ __ ] that can can be hang-ups and and problems that that are just unavoidable and things you literally just cannot obtain or do okay so I can't not get them on that now what about the orchestral music is it good or bad I think it's good I think it's really good but that being said my complaint with this is I honestly the cloths do not bother where you add anyway I kept hearing I'm gonna be mine here's B my mind I'm gonna be plus okay and and I do not think the call-outs are bad they don't bother me in the least bit they're a little lengthy at times yeah but they do not bother me I do like the orchestra music I like the two songs they fit the theme perfect of the pin it's the Cherry Bomb yes but that all being said my only complaint is I would like more songs in the the pin because there's something fun playing to those songs it really open it up and height you up a little bit your adrenaline gets going a little bit more you run them in a different spot because everybody was saying that there are too often it's not as bad as when I thought that was gonna be like it's one of those things that you gotta be careful when you listen to complaints because it feels like they snowball blow it was us we were complaining like a headache again but we did I don't here's it here's my simple it's not i'm on it you i'm okay with where they're at would i like him in a different place possibly but I'm okay with were there yeah well here's what here's why I met a B+ instead of a name the quality of the voice call outs not the greatest but I'm fine with it they're just not the music is fine I'm fine with it well actually I love the music thank you so much during for the couple songs each do have level there's not enough call-outs to tell you what to do that's what differentiates it from a B plus to an A and with that is very much so can I think that I call out quality that self would for me it would lower it to an a-minus if we had some rock it saying shoot the right ramp yeah you know that stuff but it just doesn't have that maybe they updated in code but right now I'm in a piece maybe that's why I feel there needs to be more music and stuff maybe that those gaps if not gaps but maybe the the lack thereof of those kind of yeah shut up I say what what I like just as much as because you know me I love this kind of music yeah the the soundtrack to this music alone but the score the orchestral score that they use is very amping it's like it really fires yeah I mean when you play Batman 66 it's like you know bass
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    know which is sleep this ant you don't you you know it's fun let's go to theme the theme of guardians of the galaxy there what do you think why my guardian why isn't it to be received do you think it's integrated well I like guardians theme was a tough thing because we recently got some kind of some kickback yeah oh yeah about about how that we rate theme in theme I mean just yeah I mean it doesn't I think you can take integration into if it's a big deal we're gonna use it yeah but a lot of us just like t2 t2 is not a great in know I enjoy it but it's not a great pin but why do you buy it but they the theme mmm you got the whole movie yeah I tell you one thing if it wasn't for theme and it wasn't for art on this I wouldn't have jumped in as soon as I did no I and that's why theme can be such a big part to me it's one of the biggest I heard it you're an a yeah I'm gonna day as well yeah it's not a plus because it's not like my top ten list of themes yeah but it is because it's my favourite superhero thing yeah so just yeah I love seeing Groot there on the playfield let's even rock it they're just it's cool oh it's just real and it does have music it does have the music from the film so for me that's a topic it's nice it's a tougher I'm Julia it's Tucker our newest rating enjoyable enjoyability do you enjoy it I do enjoy it some enjoyability a good for us is do you like it in your collection yeah you see staying in your collection for Walter you want to play another game users have tired of it exactly that is in all other things aside I don't think either one was rated it low by any means no some be - is in there such with still ISM there be +4 enjoy building yeah yes how many - yeah I enjoyed the game I enjoy it because that necessary we were playing a hobbit and we were playing that and I I'm slowly becoming a fan of The Hobbit oh but it's like Zack said with obvious like you have one good game you've done you just yeah you don't want to play it for a little bit yeah this right here you waiting it really does like you uh it's not a 100 percent frustration you just are ready to play another game it's like Ironman this yes it kicks your ass you say I won another exact please let me I'm exactly I'm not as frustrated with that as Buster's no because that's not cheap no if it gets past you it's because of you yes yes code aside I would say that it has the enjoy ability that is similar to Metallica that would be to me the only thing that you could compare to Metallica with this pin is that I think it's not as I think people will flock to Metallica more because he is a friendlier shoot yeah it's an easier yeah I agree we get the flow down and let the music if you plate pins mm-hmm I think that's if you guys want to do it this is no [ __ ] if you guys want a challenging pin shot wise this is the one yeah this is it yeah so enjoy building on an a - I like it in my collection I love looking at it in the collection I like the LCD screen we don't really review like the the video on the own LCD screens much but and if somebody suggested we do that yeah how to insert that here you know video clips of this are good are the first time maybe Batman 66 is pretty good about it this versus I have these cup sequences Aerosmith beautiful great but it's not really pulling an Aerosmith no this you're seeing the film yeah I mean you've got the film right there your favorite parts are up on the screen you've got a 360 Spain of Groot with rocket on top start multi-ball that's cool it's just really really enjoyable to please so what was our final rating you guys let's see if we can just sit here and if you fall asleep did you know at 7 o'clock and it's time for me to go to bed Greg's ass about to turn into a pumpkin all the way home sort of go fund me just for an uber uber ride home you said to me beer so let's be fair all right so if we composite this you are at a solid be a 3.29 high feel very fair with that I'm gonna be plus a three point three with room for improvement lunch code updates I'm good with I will agree with that if they can flush it out like they did Metallica and like they did Walking Dead and such now will say I think it's very promising you guys probably always like Oh Zach gets on this pin and he just adjusts all the way about I don't admit to you guys that with the rule set on this you can kind of see where it's gonna go I mean they might surprise me this is not a pin I don't think this is gonna last long long long long term I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest just the code layout I'm gonna get to that wizard mode a couple times and I'll probably be done with it I think unless I have a lot of money but I don't so I don't see the code being just the structure of it it's not gonna be where it's at for me to have for 5-10 years not gonna be it I'm inventing that you ever known anything over a year that's true that's true but I've been bending to that I feel it's not the co-owner for a longer term like Walking Dead so Walking Dead has the perfect code structure that I want long-term it's kind of beautiful then you want to keep it that you like it's kind of like the theme integration it's sort of like what we talked about about that about how young will do that well if it's a pretty pin it seems this thing just did a bit longer yeah feel coded as well is this one the complaint gets walking dead to me since I've owned it is literally like one of the most perfectly coded machines yeah that I think that will ever exist but I'm not really tired of playing it I'm done looking at it yeah I'm just tired of looking at it's not the most beautiful art no I'm just tired of looking at minimum collection oh one pin collection I think you could go one pin with it if you're decent player if it's your first pin no and you don't play a lot no it's gonna be too difficult the shots gonna be too frustrating I'm so difficult I don't want to use this more frustrating um - pink collection I think you're somewhat fine with that I think perfect three pin 13 yeah let's your speed down repin yeah oh yeah yeah yeah that's what it is all right pros we talked about the all the pros what are the cons of this game and you know what I will suggest at this point in the pricing structure pinball machines I think that Dame Pro is a pro $5,400 is what you hide really get it for I'm not still saying that it's worth fifty four hundred but like you said in the the pricing what you get for fifty four hundred dollars in pinball I'm caught yes I'm 100% fine with that I think that it's good honestly pros are be pawns the only cons that I honestly feel trying to think about it is just that it's in its infancy that's code that's it let's remain other than that there is not really anything else and there's usually some down sides some pins I think this is just gonna be a straight up now if you won with an LD and you paid the price for an Ellie I would say price yeah cuz at that point but if you chip off a pro here obviously yep I don't see if code I think once the code is matured this might be one of Stern's most solid as pins just a solid good pin it's not gonna blow your socks off with code like Star Trek Star Trek another it is a very it's a solid pin it doesn't make you want to keep it forever but yes it when it's gone that's exactly you enjoy it when it's there it feels complete happy with it I think that's a great yeah alright so what do we need to let these people know first off thanks man golly gee whiz thanks for checking out the videos I'm really appreciative we recently a few weeks ago thousand subscribers subscribers if you guys are subscribing right now thanks man eight months ago yeah yeah we're not we're doing another year like yeah like we it's crazy we were happy on our first like twenty subscribers we went crazy or we thought this is great this is this is freaking fantastic which I'm so humbled by this oh very much is in all the pants are we even at a point of slowing down no he'll know what's 2018 gonna bring us my friend Wow
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