Who's talking? You're talking. I'm talking. Oh my gosh. Welcome back. Episode number 23 of the Punk Rock Pinball podcast. Oh my God. Yeah. Can you believe it? I can't believe it. It's 23 episodes. That's Michael Vecennia Jordan's number. This is Michael Vecennia Jordan. The goat's number. Every time I hear 23, I think of Michael Vecennia Jordan like every time. Do you? Yeah. I don't. I do. I hope this doesn't make some bad sounds but I'm doing this alright Mike well well what do we got behind us we're sitting in front of a little roller games so fun a Gorgar a Batman Forever Stranger Things over there I don't know if you can see it what's over here Black Knight Sword of Rage that one's ours we're at the PRPHQ yeah we've had some additions we got some members we got 20 games in here now yeah Tuesday there will be a 21 21 coming on Tuesday and then our friend Greg Halperin is bringing two Judge Dredd John Wick Pro they're like multiplying like the rabbits in our backyard yeah that will give us 23 just like episode 23 Michael Vecennia Jordan's number we had a big weekend we did we on well on Wednesday first of all on Wednesday I hosted the ladies bells and chimes Peoria edition I hosted those gals here back when we only had 12 games in here oh where none of the CJ's weren't in yet? they were moving in that day oh but Yeah, I had my lady friends from Peoria come over because they've lost their normal place, and they're kind of bouncing around at different locations. So it was our official first event at PRPHQ with the ladies. And Stephanie won. I did. The Bells and Chimes Peoria tournament. It was pretty fun. You're the winner. Shelly got second. Yeah. Yeah. Nice job, Steph and Shelly. The game coming in Tuesday is Joe and Shelly's game. that they've never seen or played. What is it called? Knight Rider. Knight Rider. It's an EM machine tweaked up. Who tweaked this one up? Oh, my God. I can't think of his name right now. We're buying it from Chicago Water and Fire. Yeah. And Steph's going to go pick it up for him. On Tuesday. Tuesday. I'm going to get my hair cut by Danny. Oh, Danny's cutting your hair? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. And then yesterday, this is why we're a little bit slow today. Yesterday, we had the first kind of monthly tournament here. And I was here from 1 p.m. till almost midnight. Yeah. We had almost 50 players, 49 players. Yeah. How about that? I really, like, it was awesome. I'm going to say that was the biggest pinball tournament in the history of Bloomington, Illinois. It very well could have been. And if there was a bigger one, then give me the evidence. We want to see the receipts. I think we've got the world record for the largest pinball tournament in Bloomington, Illinois. To date. To date. It was yesterday here at the Punk Rock Pinball Headquarters Pinball Club. So it was really fun. So warm-up started at 4 p.m. the main event started at 5. And at like 3 o'clock, I thought, you know what? I should run home, let the dog out, let him run around a little bit, play with him before, you know, it started. So I left. I got back here at 4.05. All of the parking spaces were filled. I think I parked in the gravel outside of David's space. And Joe and Shelly showed up at the same time, and we walked into a room full of people. I mean, there were probably 30 people there at that point. Yeah, it was packed. Yeah, I was getting like all these people here, and like Shelly and Steph usually register the people. Well, Shelly does. Usually Shelly. Shelly does like 90% of it. Thank you, Shelly. Yeah, she's awesome. So I'm just like, oh, God. What am I going to do? I'm just going to let them all just play. They all just came in and just started playing. It was so fun. All the games are just getting played for hours. So who was the first person that showed up? I don't even remember. The Griff brothers were here pretty early. Okay. And Vince forgot to take his fishing pole. I have his fishing pole over here. Dang it, Vince. It's here at the club, Vince, if you watch or James, tell Vince. The Griff brothers were here early. Well, Jack and my son Jack and Amber, they were here, I think, first. Yeah, they were here before I left. And then I think Vince maybe was next. Mark the Knife was here pretty early. Yeah. And Mark the Knife, I think, was the MVP of the night. Oh, my gosh. Mark the Knife is our friend who is a tech, a pinball tech, and he volunteers his time at a lot of the big majors in the Chicago area and just a lot of the tournaments in the Chicago area. You will see Mark. He is amazing. He came down to Bloomington to, we needed a few games to get repaired. Yeah. Like, they were not functioning. Mm-hmm. He came in and zhuzhed them up, lickety split. Yeah, Mark is like a magician, like, just so fast. And we had close encounters of the third kind pinball machine that would start, but it wouldn't start a game anymore. and there's a voltage issue. He figured it out. It plays now. We might have to play it tonight before we leave, even though I'm super tired. Definitely. This old girl, Roller Games, had a couple issues where the right flipper just died, just stopped flipping, and the coil was super hot. Oh. And then Mark figured out what was causing that and made the game work. During the tournament, and he's playing in the tournament, and I think in qualifying he made the finals so he's like shredding a game and then like oh Mark the roller games is broke so like after his ball he'll run over here and like fix a game and then jump back in and like kick people's asses at pinball it was amazing and I think everybody definitely he is the MVP of the night and so many people came up to me and they were like who is that guy like it's Mark the Knife He is now officially a legend in central Illinois. Are we east or west of the Mississippi? Are you kidding me? East? Yeah. Okay. I'm tired. I'll get more into why I'm tired. Mark the Knife, he's the best pinball tech east of the Mississippi. I mean, he would never say that. He's so humble. I'll say that. But, man, that guy, just worth his weight in gold and then some. Best pinball tech north of the Mason-Dixon line. And just a lovely all-around human. Just a great guy. Yeah, we like Mark. Yeah, we do. Very, very much so. And another highlight, we got to meet Eric, I don't know how to pronounce your last name, Fierstein? Mark, I mean, Eric F. Eric F. Eric has been a longtime member of our Facebook group, Punk Rock Pinball Facebook group. You should join if you're not in there. Mark was one of the first members. Yeah. He's got a cool VPN. And whenever we stream games or talk about games, he'll post in the group the next day like he's playing that game. Yeah, it's cool. And he came and he played his first ever pinball tournament. Excuse me. He made a really cool post in the group afterwards. He had a great time. Sounds like he's going to come back. It's a two-hour trip for him. It's from Chicagoland. And he said it was worth the drive down from Chicago. It is worth the drive. You know who else came down from there besides, well, the Griff brothers, Mark the Knife, Eric, Deanna from Sincere Engineer, and her partner, Jeremy. They came down. Deanna's first pinball tournament, I think. Yeah, and Jeremy's. Congratulations, guys, on your first pinball tournament. There were a lot of noobs. Yeah. And I think genuinely everybody had a really good time. So talk about the format that we decided to do. So we did head-to-head match play. What does that mean? Well, it means it's two-player matches. And if you win, you get a point. If you lose, you don't. And we did that from 5 p.m. to 7.30 was the cutoff. And we got in eight rounds. And then the finals were an amazing race, where everybody that makes the finals, you start on one machine and everybody plays that machine. The person with the lowest score on that machine is out And we started in the room back there where we film the next episode back there in front of the EMs and the older guys So you just keep going until there one person left And that was Josh. Josh versus Joe. So for the punk rock pinball points, though. Those don't count. The finals don't count. Finals don't count. So the winner of the punk rock pinball tournament was Kevin. Oh, Kevin. Kevin from Champagne. Kevin K. Kevin K. I hate trying to pronounce people's last names. Kevin went 8-0. He did? He was 8-0 in the qualifying. Oh, my gosh. And then he got taken out on Black Knight. Yeah, he had a bad game. And the low score on Black Knight was Josh, who ended up winning, was like 2.5 million. And Kevin didn't beat 2.5 million. Oh, Kevin, I'm so sorry. That's three skill shots. Well, you know what? But he was the winner of the Punk Rock Pinball Tournament. So you got that, Kev. So that's going to be 49 Punk Rock Pinball points. So right now he's in the lead. Yeah. We've got to make the page. The page will be created, but we've got the results in Match Play, so we're not going to forget who won. Yeah. So, Kevin, congratulations winning the Punk Rock Pinball side. Doesn't pay money. We paid money to the IFPA side. that was josh congratulations josh i think fun was had by all yes if you were here and you want to become a member you can email me mike at live from the rock room.com we have the key holder members that's sold out we have we're not taking any more of those but you can join for 30 per month and that would get you into all the leagues and all the tournaments and you can come anytime somebody with the key is here i know this is i'm really talking to people in central illinois right now and this is a national podcast but international international yeah or even eric you know you had a really fun time and you want to come you want to come down more often you should just join eric and support the cause and come and play all the monthly tournaments just move down here or just move down it's way cheaper it's great you couldn't pay me to move back to chicagoland how about you no way nah i mean there are things i miss like being able to get a good haircut you can just go up and do that well that's what i'm doing that tuesday taking a day off work yeah and i'm driving up to get my haircut and pick up a pinball machine i went up near chicagoland today, which is why I'm so tired. Wait, time out. You know who else is driving up on Tuesday to pick up a pinball machine? Shelly Sharp. Shelly's going with you? No, she's going to get her own, a different one. Shelly's getting a... Oh! Is that Tuesday or Thursday? Thursday's Thanksgiving. Oh. Okay. It's Tuesday. Tuesday. Oh, they're getting their Harry Potter. Yeah. Woo! Congratulations on that. Yeah, we might have to go over there on Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. So there's that. Anyways, why were you so tired today, Mike? I'm tired because, well, I spent like 12 hours here yesterday. Yeah. And then we were so excited, like hopped up afterwards. I couldn't sleep. I was like, it was just so much fun. I couldn't sleep until like five in the morning. Like, I want to do it again. Yeah. Not today. We're going to do it again. We'll do it next month. Okay. Let's see if we can break the record, the world record of the largest pinball tournament in Bloomington, Illinois history, which stands at 49 players. Yeah. Can we get 50 next month? Maybe. Do you want to come? You should come. Yeah. So then today I had to get up and go up to Aurora, which is two hours away. And I had to rock the drums with my buddies in the Smoking Popes. Yeah. I had to do this for the people so I can deliver them a quality rock show on Black Friday. That's right. At the Bottom Lounge. A Black Friday deal. And then on Black Saturday. Oh, is that a thing now? I guess. Isn't it Small Business Saturday? Whatever. Okay. Small Business Saturday. I might be wrong, but I think it is. Yeah, it's all gimmicks. It is. Then we're playing in Milwaukee at the X-Ray Arcade on Saturday. So I had to drive two hours to Aurora, play drums for two hours, drive two hours back home here, so I can give you all a quality rock performance on Friday and Saturday at Bottom Lounge and X-Ray Arcade. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Who else is playing? We're playing with Scott Lucas. Of The Local H. Of The Local H. And, no offense to Scott, but what I'm most excited about is playing with, It's a band you've probably not heard. They're called Menthol. And we toured with them in 1995 or 6 or somewhere thereabouts. We did our own version of the Winter Dance Party tour with Smoking Popes, Triple Fast Action, Menthol. And they're just a fantastic band. And I haven't seen them perform since that tour. It's been 30-ish years. So I'm very much excited to see Menthol. And you would be too if you knew them. I want them to play the Danger Rock Science song. Oh, they got to play that. They have to. They have to. And New Recruits. New Recruits is like my favorite song of theirs. Yeah. So we're going to do one of the next episodes, a December episode is going to be the 10 best albums of the year. and I think the menthol danger rock science album came in came out in you got coffee on your nose came out in 95 so I was going to add that as like because it's 30 years anniversary and it would be new to you in 2025 I was going to put that on the best of 2025 list that's awesome because it's new to you in 2025 and it's having an anniversary that's awesome but yeah I just that was yesterday was great yeah the album's called Danger Rock Science oh it was it's telling me 2002 but that's not when it came out it came out in the 90s oh their their debut album was 1995 I digress okay but yeah can we break the Bloomington, Illinois world record Illinois Illinois's apostrophe S oh okay world record for the largest pinball tournament again in December. I mean, we've got room. We do. I also learned a lot at this, like what we're missing or what would make the experience better. I think it was like a solid A experience. Yeah, this was a soft opening. Yeah, but I think there are some things I want to do for next time to just make it more enjoyable. What would you do? Well, Shelly was clutch. Joe and Shelly brought this extra table that we were able to put the pizzas on. I want to just have the food stuff kind of laid out a little bit better. Okay. And I also want to be here when people are showing up. I didn't realize they were going to be here so early. Otherwise, I... I mean, the warm-ups are at 4. They got here at 4. That's how they do it. That's how the pinball people do it. Yeah, they don't fuck around. They were excited to see the joint. They were. So, yeah, because we have some folding chairs out here. I want like maybe a bigger, longer table out here so people can sit stuff. Yeah. I think ideally, if we had money, we would do like high top tables and something like a little cooler. But this is like a DIY deal. Yeah. And we don't have money for that, so we're not getting that. We have priorities. Uh-huh. Pinball first. This is a pinball first establishment. Oh, my gosh. but yeah it was i think it was a good success we got thanksgiving coming up this week yeah what are you thankful for i'm thankful for you every day and i'm thankful for you too i mean that i mean that too i know you do yeah um what else though and this year i'm like really actually coming out of this weekend super thankful for our pinball family of people like it was like super cool that everyone showed up it was so cool at the end of the night that everybody who may not be key members but want to participate and make this a better space it was just like like really touching that like everybody wants to help make it better yeah which is really cool like josh he has some skills and he was like hey i could help you do this and that. And Kevin Johnson was like, what do you need? Tell me what you need and I'll keep an eye out for it. Kevin's going to get us a big garbage can. He's going to get us a big garbage can and a bigger one for the bathroom too. Kevin, you're not wrong. We do need that. But he, yeah. So it's just like super cool that everybody wants to contribute and help in a way. And like, I'm just thankful for everybody in the community that we've met throughout the whole state everybody's just super supportive of us doing this and helping and it's all of ours we just kind of did some heavy liftings heavy lifting on the front end but like everyone stepping up and helping out Yeah Very well said Thanks. Yeah. And I'm thankful for the same. Like I'm thankful we have this spot here. I'm thankful a lot of people came to play with us. Thankful for like Jeff helping set everything up and CJ helping set everything up and bringing in games and Dean for bringing in attack from Mars and just all the players in the scene and all the people that listen to the podcast and all the people that hit the like button and the subscribe button. I'm thankful for them. But like we're doing a thing. It's, you know, our thing's not huge yet, but it's growing. We're like, we're doing a thing. We're doing a thing. We're making a thing. Punk Rock Pinball is like a thing. Yeah, last night I kept like saying to people like it's a thing. and everyone's like yeah it is like i'm crazy but i just kept like oh it's this is happening yeah and this place is just part of the thing and then we like it because we get to be here all the time and if you're farther away and you're watching you might be like ah stop talking about bloomington but you could come visit yeah come visit come on out yeah we have an airport there is an airport here direct flights from dallas direct flights from denver denver chicago you don't need to fly maybe aaron reddick would fly you down on his plane yeah he lives in chicago he has a little plane some from florida a couple direct flights from florida atlanta yeah so fly on in fly on in there's cheap hotels it's a cheap cost of living down here you should just move here yeah everyone should move here so that way we can keep on breaking the records of the largest pinball tournament ever in bloomington every time because people keep moving here just for pinball It's like the new pinball capital. That's the goal. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, no, it, yeah, there's a lot to be thankful for. In addition to, like, you know, our people, our family. Yeah, like family is great. My parents are staying with us right now because they're about to move into a new house. I think their stuff is moving in tomorrow. Yeah. So I don't know if they'll move in tomorrow, probably the day after. Yeah. Get stuff situated. Yeah. It's nice having them because then they can hang out with Marshall. Yeah, it's true. Like while we're doing this stuff. He's got buddies. Yeah, they're tired from working in the house all day. Uh-huh. And their new house, not our house. We're not making them work at our house. No, they're not working at our house. No, they're just like, they come back exhausted. I feel like, oh, I asked your mom if she needed help today and she was like, no. I know, I wanted to help more this weekend. And like I did help load and move a truck yesterday morning, but then we had this thing all day. And I had to go to Aurora today. Well. And then next week I got to go to Chicago and Milwaukee. I know we're doing the Felon Lee Thanksgiving on next Sunday. Next Sunday. And then we'll do a podcast afterwards. We'll do a podcast after that. With our pants on zip because we'll be so full from second Thanksgiving. And that will be the last one of November. And then I think the December ones will do a best albums of 2025. Yep. I've got like half that list in my head. I'm shooting for 10. It doesn't have to be top 10. And then we'll do the best pinball machines of 2025. Okay. So you, the listener, we need to compile the list of which pinball machines count for 2025. Because I think Beetlejuice doesn't. it's announced now but it's not like nobody's gonna really play that outside those people that went to the spooky launch event until next year yeah so does evil dead count as 2025 because it was announced late last year but it didn't really ship until i think it counts for this year so let us know does evil dead count for the rankings this year does jaws 50th edition count yes do you count that as like I mean it was a new version of the game that was put out this year so do we count that? yes hmm wonder what would be number one then Jaws 50th probably Jaws 50th so if there's any others that we're missing like you've got I don't even know off the top of my head but I'm thinking Beetlejuice doesn't count this year let me know if that's right and I'm thinking I would count Evil Dead for this year those are my two questions for the audience. Does that make sense? Like, is that the right thing to do? It makes sense to me, but... If we're doing the Punk Rock Pinball Awards for Best Pinball Machine of 2025, they can win Punk Rock Pinball points, too. The machine? The machine, the designer. Oh. Uh-huh. We'll send, like, a little plaque to... Send Keith Ellen's going to get a plaque? Yeah. Spoiler alert, it's Jaws. We haven't even talked about it, but we will. And like you said, we'll do our top albums of the year. Yep. Including a throwback. Including a throwback. Spoiler alert, Menthol's Danger Rock Science. I thought that was a 95. It was their other album. So maybe Menthol gets to be on the list next year. Okay. But they're on the list now. just check out menthol's danger rock science album it's great it's really really good yeah yeah check it out this week and then come to the rock show on friday or saturday or both because you know what friday at bottom lounge where you're playing in chicago on lake street they've got pinball machines yeah i was trying to set up a little quick little tournament there it's i don't think that's going to happen but we'll be playing so if you want to come to the Black Friday, Rock Show in Chicago. Get there a little bit early before doors. Because once the show starts, I'm watching menthol. Yeah. But if you get there before doors because the pinball is in front, we can play pinball together. I think they have 10 or 11 machines. Yeah. So, yeah, come on out early. We'll play pinball. They'll be fun. Yeah, bring some dollars. Do we want to talk about, not get into it deeply right now, about what's going on with the IFPA right now? Not really. Okay. I mean, we can. Maybe next episode, do we talk about that? Maybe next episode. I don't have all of my information. Okay, because you're talking to someone tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. This is my FPA drama. You can look up on Kineticist. He's posted a lot of stories about it. If you look at the Kineticist Facebook page, you can't escape the story. No, it's been going on for the last couple weeks. I will just say this. I will call it drama because it is. There's controversy and drama happening within the IFPA organization. But I'm not going to comment on that. But what I will say is with all of this news that's been coming out the last couple of weeks, it really has shined a light on the fact that for the player who just wants to have fun and really has no chance in hell, I guess, of making the world finals. Like you aren't on a pro circuit. The IFPA really isn't, it doesn't seem like it is for the casual player who just wants to be part of the community and play with friends and have a friendly competition. Yeah. And it seems like from a lot of the comments that I've been reading in various forums and posts and whatnot, that there really is a need for something like that. Yeah, there is a need for something like that. Or, I shouldn't say a need, but people have an appetite for it. Yeah, that's kind of what we're thinking with the punk rock pinball tournaments. And then what we did yesterday is a prime example. Yesterday's tournament was an IFPA tournament. but then we don't apply the punk rock pinball points to the finals. So it's just rewarding who did best in qualifying. And I think qualifying was a grind. You had to play eight matches. I mean, I guess if you won through that amazing race, then... That was a grind. That's also a grind. It was a double grind. But the funny thing is we did that format because you can get the most IFPA points that way. Because you do the head-to-head match, but you got eight meaningful matches and then you do the amazing race with 16 players in the finals. Josh had 16 meaningful matches. So you kind of, I have to, you have to like game the system and figure out what is going to get you the most points for your top. It was still a super fun format. It was a very fun format. And I think it was a really fun format for the people who had, who were first time tournament players. Yeah. As well as people who are seasoned tournament players and really like you know Josh and Joe and CJ and Kevin like these really great players who kind of can dominate I think it was fun for everyone And I think even some of the new people like I feel like Deanna may have said to me something like you know, she played Joe Sharp and like got her ass kicked. And she was just like, whoa. I think it's kind of fun for the new players to see that because no one's really an asshole. And I think the new players all believe what we've been saying. They experience what we've been saying, that everybody is super friendly and helpful. And no one's, at least in our scene, no one's a dick there are no dicks in the central illinois pinball scene it's all nice people all friendly they all will help you if you're new and i think it is fun if you're okay if you're humble enough to know if you're a beginner that you're not that great it's fun to watch somebody like joe just like light up a game oh my god you're like i didn't even know that was possible it was like the very first tournament we ever played and cj was like shredding jaws and I think our high score at home at that point was like 80 million and CJ was on ball two and had like 700 million he or and then going into ball three he like plunged it we've told this story but it's like aren't you gonna keep playing that's such a great score he's like no no he was just like no and in like the nicest way and he kind of laughed like not laughed as in a mean way but kind of chuckled yeah like no it's turning me that again but we're like how can you walk away from 700 million points you could you could get a billion and like he already had shot a billion before like like isn't this your best score he's like no oh it's like 10 times my best ever score so as a noob it was fun to see people that can do that and it's like eye-opening like holy shit And then some of our, like, our friend, our new friend Rob in Bloomington and our new friend Eric and some of our noobs that got put on the EM machines. And they're all like, those games are tough. Like, you're lucky to flip the ball. And I try to tell them, like, believe it or not, there are people that are, like, good at those. Yeah. I was telling Eric today in the Facebook group, like, he needs to go to the next Papa tournament next year at Antarium. And, Eric, you should enter the classics division. Yes. Don't just go watch. Like, enter the main and the classics. Like, I did this. You don't have to be any good. Let's all go together. Yeah. We'll be there, Eric. You come with us. We can be our punk rock pinball twinsies with our hoodies and our hats like we were last night. and enter so that you can like, you'll have to see where your scores like stack up to these other players. And what some of these folks can do on those classics, it's like, how? How? Because it seems, I get it on the modern ones, but the old DMs like seem so random. We should have Luke Biorowski on here and talk. Learning with the Lukes? Learning with the Lukes. But Luke did really well in the classics at Papa. So we've got to bring our streaming gear over. Where? Here. Oh. Our live stream gear. Yeah, I forget it's not here. It's not here. Oh, Dustin had a great idea on streaming, and I would love to hear what you think. Okay. But Dustin said, you know, everyone's always streaming the modern Sterns, but, like, it would be really interesting if you streamed, like, the EMs or some of these other games that you don't get to see a lot. Well, Roller Games was the first one I wanted to stream in here. It's so fun. That was my first one. And then we could do a night where we stream the EMs. And maybe Luke can help us get better on them. That'd be cool. Yeah. I mean, CJ's pretty good on them too, and Joe's pretty good on them. Yeah. But then at the Papa, like, there's some dudes that were like... Beasts. They were rolling... Like, the EMs only score up to a certain number. Because they're dials. They're not electronic. And so when you pass that score, it rolls back to zero. So you call that rolling it. and I've only done it once or twice on some of them, but there were people rolling the Grand Prix game like seven times at the pop-up tournament. Yeah. Like I, if somebody in one of our tournaments, if somebody rolls Grand Prix, it's like, Oh my God. And then there's people up there. It's like, yeah, they did it seven times, like 700,000. Crazy. But I want to stream roller games. That's the first one I want to do. Yeah, we're going to do it. maybe after Thanksgiving. And I want to try to get to, now that we have the club and we have more people, I want to try to maybe start a streaming schedule and teach a couple other people how to use the rig so it doesn't have to be us. Because it takes a lot to do the podcast every week and then to go and get the energy to go do the streaming. We're playing in a lot of leagues and we're hosting a lot of tournaments. But if we had other people in the club that knew how to use the gear, could just come over here, I could teach them how to sign in, and they could just stream. That'd be cool. So we could pick, like, one night where it's, like, every week on such and such night, like, a stream happens. I want to set it up kind of like how the electric bat people do it, though, where we can commentate. Yeah, I don't know the technical. If you know about streaming, so you've seen our streams you can watch one of our streams we've got the setup where you can see us you can hear us how do you bring in so if we want to have some folks over there watching the stream and commentating how do you bring that other feed into the stream together that's what I don't quite know me either and how much money is it going to cost me and stuff to make that happen it looks like a lot of fun it would be great. That's the best. The electric bat stream is, is great. And the Fox cities, like Tom graph, his streams are great. And they have, cause it's more fun. It's hard to be the player and then talk to the, to the camera and the game, like while you're trying to play good. So I feel like that can get a little bit dull, but if you had people commentating and like walking through, like what the player's trying to shoot and the electric, bat guys do a really good job at that yeah where i like because they have their their one guy and i always forget his name but he always he knows like surge surge he knows every rule to every game ever so he'll tell you like oh now they're trying and they'll highlight on the screen now they're trying to shoot this left orbit now that lit the spinners and i was trying to shoot the spinner and now he hits needs to hit this six times yeah and i think as we if we could get that set up and we're commentating, we probably can learn the games better that way too. All of us. All of us. Get the Lukes in here. Learn with the Lukes. I don't think the other Luke even watches or knows that we've signed him up for this. Do we have League on Tuesday? I think it's next week. Oh, because of the holiday. Is that Dwayne's house? Cool. I think. He has Harry Potter. I think. I think they watch us at Dwayne's house Oh yeah that's right He does have a Harry Potter Him and his wife He's got a Mando He's got an Elvira We didn't get to meet his wife She was hanging out at Triptych when we were there But I didn't get over there to say hi So I'll say hi to you now We'll be over at your house next week I think not this week but the next I'm pretty sure Looking forward to meeting you And he's got an Elvira He's got one of the special ones I can't remember all what he said. Harry Potter, Elvira, Mando. I think he has a GNR. Maybe a GNR? That sounds right. And then I think he's got five. I think you're right. Or seven. I don't know what the other one is. But can't wait to play that Elvira. It's going to be fun. We've got to get an Elvira in here. Yeah, we do. And I think we should bring the Champagne League people over here to play. We should. Yeah, it's a great lineup here. Yeah, we had two champagne people plus Kat, who's a champagne person. Greg and Kevin and Kat all came from champagne. Yep. Got to get more champagne people coming here to play, too. We will. Okay. All right. I know you're really tired. I am tired. This has been longer than we thought it was going to be. Yeah. This one, Kevin Johnson, if you made it this far, might be rambly. I'll give you that, KJ. This one might be a little rambly, but that's fine. Sometimes they are. we didn't really have a hardcore like topic today a lot of times it's like we're going to talk about this game or that game or that game today we're just talking about a bunch of stuff yeah and setting the record for the largest pinball tournament in bloomington illinois and mike's on like three hours of sleep i'm on like three hours of sleep because he was so hyped up last night couldn't sleep my brain was going crazy it was like better than christmas yeah All right. Okay. Well, everybody, I hope you have a really great week. Mm-hmm. And happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you have a wonderful long weekend. Hopefully you get a long weekend for the holiday. And come see us at, watch Mike play at the Bottom Lounge or at X-Ray Arcade in Cudahy, Wisconsin. Yeah. So we'll see you next week. See ya. Toodle-oo!