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Episode 147 – K-turn

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jun 23, 2020
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt ep. 147: bar updates, medical rant, and deep dive into Stern logo history

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss their bar operations, Ron's extended medical frustrations with a sore throat requiring ENT referral, and an extended tangent about Stern Pinball's logo evolution across different machines and eras. The episode covers bar reopening logistics, System 1 pinball machine production numbers, and detailed logo analysis comparing multiple Stern board variants.

Key Claims

  • Silverwall Saloon in East Rochester is operating Wednesday to Saturday with 50% capacity and mask requirements for standing/playing

    high confidence · Ron Hallett directly describing their bar operations

  • Ron experienced a one-month sore throat issue caused by nasal drip, resolved with Flonase after ENT visit

    high confidence · Ron's personal medical account and diagnosis

  • Sinbad is the most-produced System 1 pinball machine with 12,000 units

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce citing production numbers during System 1 discussion

  • Close Encounters is the second most-produced System 1 with 9,950 units

    high confidence · Ron correcting production numbers during System 1 ranking

  • Countdown is the third most-produced System 1 with 9,900 units

    high confidence · Ron citing production data during System 1 discussion

  • Asteroid Annie and the Aliens is the rarest System 1 with only 211 units produced

    high confidence · Ron citing production data during System 1 ranking

  • Stern used the same Elvis-style logo font from late original run through their comeback with Striker Extreme

    medium confidence · Bruce and Ron analyzing Stern logo variations across backglasses

  • Hot Hand and Cosmic Princess represent one-off logo designs not used on other Stern machines

    medium confidence · Ron identifying unique logos during logo analysis discussion

  • Stern has used approximately four main logo designs across 40+ years

    medium confidence · Ron's conclusion after cataloging logo variants

  • The Silver Ball Chronicles podcast focuses on System 1 pinball machines in upcoming coverage

    high confidence · Ron mentioning recent Silver Ball Chronicles recording topic

Notable Quotes

  • “In the state of New York, when you sit at the bar or you sit at the table, you don't need a mask. But when you're playing, you know, if you're going to play a game or you're going to do anything like that, you have to wear a mask.”

    Ron Hallett@ 2:59 — Describes mask policy confusion at their bar location during pandemic restrictions

  • “Basically, I have the same shit that I had like three or four years ago when I had the cough. It's nasal drip.”

    Ron Hallett@ 18:58 — ENT diagnosis explaining month-long throat issue

  • “When I use Flonase, it actually makes my whole head, like, leak more.”

    Ron Hallett@ 19:16 — Describes adverse reaction to Flonase medication

  • “I have narrow ear canals. Oh, wow. I got my ear cleared out while I was there, too. And that explains why earplugs just don't work with me. They hurt like fucking hell.”

    Ron Hallett@ 19:38 — Medical finding about narrow ear canals affecting earplug use

  • “They basically made it actually, instead of just being an add-on to the Backglass, it's part of the Backglass artwork.”

    Bruce Nightingale@ 30:52 — Observation about Trident's logo integration into backglass design

  • “If I was going to get a tattoo of one, that would be the one I'd do.”

    Ron Hallett@ 32:47 — Expressing preference for script Stern logo design

  • “I like the current one because it's actually on a flipper with a ball.”

    Bruce Nightingale@ 32:40 — Expressing preference for modern Stern logo design element

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSilverwall SaloonvenueStern PinballcompanySlam Tilt PodcastorganizationSilver Ball ChroniclesorganizationWalgreenscompanyAlbany ENTvenueMilwaukee Tool CompanycompanySinbadgameCountdowngame

Signals

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    operational_signal: Silverwall Saloon operating at limited capacity (Wednesday-Saturday) with complex mask compliance requirements based on activity type (sitting vs standing), suggesting ongoing pandemic-related operational constraints and staffing challenges

    high · Ron describing limited schedule and mask enforcement difficulties

  • ?

    venue_signal: Silverwall Saloon rotating System 1 machines on rental basis (Cheetah, Gammatron returned to lineup) to generate consistent revenue stream

    high · Ron mentioning rental model bringing back machines and generating 'good money'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: System 1 machines remain actively played and collected despite age; player preferences suggest rarity and collectibility affect appeal independent of gameplay depth

    medium · Ron liking Asteroid Annie primarily for rarity despite admitting most System 1s have limited appeal

  • ?

    historical_signal: Stern's logo design strategy shows inconsistency with multiple unique variants and occasional one-off designs (Hot Hand, Cosmic Princess) suggesting lack of centralized branding control across production eras

    medium · Detailed logo comparison showing 4+ distinct designs across 40+ years with unexplained one-offs

  • ?

    content_signal: Silver Ball Chronicles podcast conducting thematic deep-dives on classic pinball eras (System 1) suggesting niche audience demand for historical coverage

    high · Ron recording System 1 focused episode causing throat exhaustion

Topics

Bar operations and masking policiesprimarySystem 1 pinball machine production historyprimaryStern Pinball logo evolution and design variantsprimaryMedical system frustrations and healthcare experienceprimaryPinball machine board corrosion and restorationsecondarySilver Ball Chronicles podcast productionsecondaryMilwaukee Tool products and equipmentmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.35)— Predominantly frustrated and critical tone regarding medical system incompetence, bar operations complexity, and healthcare inefficiency; balanced by positive discussions of System 1 machines, logo design appreciation, and friendly co-host banter. Ron's medical rant dominates tone but resolves positively with symptom resolution.

Transcript

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0:00
Well, these lice are pretty disgusting. Here, I'll show you what they really look like. But this one's taking a dump. No, no, he's laying eggs. In fact, hundreds of them are doing that on your scalp right now. Cool. And here's the name of a special shampoo and a lotion for skin irritation. You said foreskin.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Show Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Hello, everyone. We're back. A couple weeks. Three weeks, right? Three weeks? I don't remember. And this is episode 147.
1:04
Happy Father's Day, everyone. We're doing this on Father's Day. I messaged mine, and I haven't got her. He's probably not even up yet. He's probably not even up yet, which I don't blame him. I wouldn't be up yet either. I wouldn't be up yet either at 930. Far too early. No. I was at the bar until late last night. Opening you on. First shot. Yeah. Well, he also eats breakfast at like 1130 a.m. So. Sounds so good. No, that's just ridiculous. What?
1:35
Yeah, that's almost noon. But it's still breakfast. Uh, whatever. Places are opening now. Yes. Just don't go to Florida. You'll probably go to Arizona or a couple other places. California now reinstituted their mask rule, which we've had since two months. The bar being open with masks is weird. That's really weird. What? Did you say the bar is open? The bar is open. Ooh. What bar would that be?
2:06
Close Encountersgame
Asteroid Annie and the Aliensgame
Hot Handgame
Cosmic Princessgame
Cheetahgame
Gammatrongame
Striker Extremegame
Deadpoolgame
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product_concern: Corrosion affecting vintage pinball CPU and lamp driver boards rendering them non-functional or difficult to repair, suggesting preservation challenges for aging machines

high · Ron showing photos of extensive white corrosion on boards; Dak unwilling to accept corroded boards for parts

It would be the Silverwall Saloon in East Rochester, New York, 135 West Commercial Street. Okay. Let me put that into my Google Maps. Check it on out. We have a limited schedule. We're only open right now from Wednesday to Saturday. We're working our way up. Sundays were never good for us except for when we had trivia. So when we can have trivia, then we're going to probably open Sundays again. But unfortunately, right now we're at 50% with masks on.
2:39
Yay! Teaching drunk people how to put masks on is really fun. So when they throw up all over themselves, it's like on the mask? No, it's not even that. It's just like they walk in and, you know, like you got to put a mask on. Okay. They put their mask on. But when you can, here's the weird thing. In the state of New York, when you sit at the bar or you sit at the table, you don't need a mask. But when you're playing, you know, if you're going to play a game or you're going to do anything like that, you have to wear a mask.
3:10
So anytime you're standing, you have to wear a mask. Anytime you're sitting, you don't have to wear a mask. Now, after a person gets a drink or two on them, what do they don't want to do? listen to anybody and be able to say screw you bro fuck you asshole you can't tell me what to do this is America I sound like half the streams out there now that's like the new thing
3:41
everyone getting drunk on stream or getting bombed on a podcast I know sorry the boys from head to head did that first Well, actually, it was just Marty, but yeah. I know, but you all know Marty's done it both, but, you know, he was first. So he was first, so he deserves some kind of award? It should be because it's called the Marty. I love Marty. Oh, man. Okay. How was your podcast, the other one doing, sir?
4:13
We recorded last weekend. Ooh. Yeah, we recorded last weekend, and I was just done by the end. My throat was just shot. For those who don't know, I've had a sore throat for like a month. Mmm. So, went to the doctor actually this past Monday to get, well, let me see, this past, no, Monday and then Friday to get all that wonderful thing sorted out. What the fuck's going on? Because, and amazingly, Stu hasn't been singing either.
4:45
I know. It's a complete coincidence. Oh, it's a coincidence. It's a coingy-dink. Yeah. So that was kind of like when we got to the end of that podcast. It was like, yeah, I can barely talk. And what podcast was that? That's the Silver Ball Chronicles. And what was this week's topic? This month's upcoming topic will be Godly System 1. I'm sure you'll love it. Some I will. Most I won't. Oh. Well, let's see. What was it? Hmm. Okay, so Joker Poker.
5:17
Eh, it's okay. Countdown, we know. Of course, we have that at the bar. How about Sinbad? No, God, no, I hate Sinbad. No? I love Sinbad. Okay, is there any other system ones you like? Let's go down the list. I can't think of any you would like. I'll have to look. Let's go look real fast. I know you probably hate all the wide bodies. I know you probably hate Genie. I hate Genie. But it's nice having Cheetah at the bar. Ooh. So Cheetah's at the bar, and Gammatron's back at the bar.
5:51
So we brought some oldies back. I still have some games on rental, and people are going for next month's rental. Nice. It's good money that you can keep bringing back in. Yay. So close encounters, no? No, God, no. I don't like to bury a target. These are like the rotary target. like you, you know. Let's just say you probably don't like any of the system ones. Yeah, probably not. It's probably a good bet. Yeah. No, Asteroid Annie and the Aliens, you probably like that one. I actually do like that game.
6:22
There you go, see? I got one. I like the single, I like the rareness of it. You like the rareness of it? Yeah. What is that? So you like Orbiter One? Oh, mostly I like Center Force. Counter Force. And I do like Counter Force. Counter Force on timelines at 80. Counter Force is 80. They're both 80s, that's right. Yeah. I forgot. Let's see what this guy got. You're too far in the, you got to get further back. Okay, here we go.
6:52
There's only like 10 of them. Pinball Pool. Pinball Pool, okay, okay. That's a very good one. Other than that, yeah, there's pretty much shit here. Okay. So Pinball Pool and Countdown is pretty much it for you. Okay. Yep. I know you love a credible Hulk. I know that. Oh, God. See? It's very green. Bruce knows where to put the fork on Ron. It's got good art, and that's it. Buck Rogers is terrible.
7:24
Charlie's Angel is terrible. I played that in Pentastic, and we played it forever until it just got boring. Yeah. Totem is terrible. Torch is terrible. Terrible Torch? Yeah, I think System 80 is actually better than System 1 for games, even. Yeah, probably. You've got to remember, most of the System 1s are just their EMs. Yeah. Just with electronics. That's why I think a lot of them really should play with five balls. Like, if I had Countdown, I would have it on five ball. It is our five ball at the bar.
7:56
As it should be. Do you know the most popular? What was the most made System 1? It's probably one of the ones at the beginning. Cleopatra? Nope. No? Way down the list. Way down the list? Yes. What do you mean? Like way down alphabetically or way down in numbers? Way down as in numbers. It has to be at least sixth. What does that tell you? I'm confused at what you... You want the highest? It's the sixth.
8:26
Yeah. What's the most made of the six and ones? That's sixth on the list. I don't know. What's the most made? I'm not looking at it. Sinbad. As you said, 12,000. Yeah, but wasn't that like the second or third one made? That was the one. Score them by date. It's not the sixth one. I know that. Yeah, number two. Yeah. Sixth one. No, sixth highest production. That's what I was going by, number-wise. But sixth highest production from what then?
8:56
From 12,000. So you have the next one would be the second highest one they made of System 1 machines is Countdown. 9,900. Oh, sorry. Close Encounters, 9,950. Countdown was 9,900. But sixth of... Sixth largest run of System Ones. But what was the first? Didn't you ask what was the most? The highest was the first. Highest was Sinbad, 12,000 machine. I feel like we're doing a bet. You are. Second one is Close Encounters.
9:28
Third one is Countdown. If anyone understands the bet, because I don't. Fourth one is Joker Poker. fifth one is solar ride the sixth one is cleopatra so i'm trying to tell you just the highest the lowest okay okay that's what i was saying all right maybe when i edit it i'll understand it more i oh that's what he meant yeah and the lowest of run was asteroid and yeah in the aliens 211 which man when i look at that that is so it's like they looked at alien poker and said yeah
10:00
We need to do this. And make it cheap. Because it's the same, yeah. Instead of robots playing with, yeah, instead of aliens playing with aliens, it's a human playing with the aliens. That's literally the only difference. Real, real cheap. Yeah. Whatever spare parts we have of System 1 stuff, we'll just get out. Yeah. So I had the throat issue. Yeah. Which will leave, oh, my. But my voice is awesome now. Actually, it's quite early, so it's quite low.
10:32
So I can do a great George TK. Feezers locked. So I'm going to do my version of the Tim rant. I call this the Ronnie rant. Uh-oh, I'm going to mute myself. The Ronnie rant, not necessarily pinball related. It's just the incompetence and stuff that pisses me off, that experience. And here we go. basically I've had a sore throat for a month and I'm the type that I just I don't want to go to
11:04
the doctor again I just just got through with some other stuff so it's like oh I don't want to do this again it's a pain in the ass so it'll go away on its own and it doesn't and it doesn't and it doesn't so it's like okay fuck it so call the doctor's office it's like you're going to set up a remote appointment. Like, oh, great, cool, a remote appointment. They call me, and it's like, you're going to do a remote appointment, and you're going to get a text, and you're going to reply to it, and it's going to set up a call, and we're going to send you a test right now.
11:38
Okay, did you get it? No. Okay, we're going to send you another text. Did you get it? No. Why don't you send me an email instead? So they send me an email, like, yeah, I got that. It's like, okay, texts aren't working. So then I tell them, the appointment's going to be at 3.30. It's like, okay, so when you guys are going to do the appointment, make sure you send me an email, not a text, because obviously texts aren't working. And as I found out later, I guess Monday there were actual, some issues out there on the interwebs with text and cellular and stuff,
12:11
and that's why it wasn't working, but whatever. So at 3.30 comes along, and guess what happens, Bruce? You get a text. Actually, no, nothing happens. Nothing happens at 3.30. Nothing happens at 3.40. Nothing happens at 3. Oh, so it's a typical doctor's office. Yeah, yeah. So 3.50 I get, as you said, a text, of course, because, yeah. So then I talk to the doctor, who, of course, has a shittier mic than anyone we've ever had on the podcast has. No, she cuts out every other word, and I know it's on their end.
12:43
They can hear me fine. Her video is absolutely fine. It's whatever mic she's using, probably on the laptop or however. It's just total shit. It's like if you're going to do these things, at least have a decent mic. Because it's kind of important I hear every word being, you know, you're the fucking doctor. But whatever. So we're going to refer you to the ENT. You know, the ear, nose, and throat. So they're going to send a referral. And then they're going to call me back with an appointment. Set up an appointment. Yeah.
13:13
Ointment, appointment. No, with an appointment. It's like, okay, cool. That sounds good. This is like at 3.30, so obviously no one's going to call me for the appointment the rest of the day. So that's fine. So about at 7.30 that night, I get a call, and my caller ID says it's from Western Union. What the fuck, Western Union? What the fuck's Western Union? I'm thinking spam. So I don't answer. Yeah, of course I would. And then I get a voicemail from it. Like, why would they leave me a voicemail? So then I look up the number.
13:44
The number's actually from Walgreens. like, oh, pharmacy. Wait a minute. Did my doctor prescribe something? Because she didn't say anything about that. I go to my patient portal, and, yep, she actually prescribed me something. Like, okay. So I call Walgreens, and they tell me, yeah, this thing your doctor prescribed, yeah, your insurance doesn't cover it, and we don't even have it here. We'd have to special order it. You may want to have them change the prescription to this.
14:14
and then they go through what's in this thing. It's like a thing for sores, like in your mouth. Oh, my. What's been in your mouth? Oh, okay. Off the rails. So they go through the ingredients that are in this, like lidocaine, there's like Maalox, and this other thing, Benadryl. I can't take Benadryl. Benadryl is one of the two things I am allergic to, at least I know. Aspirin and Benadryl when I take them, my heart goes berserk.
14:46
Oh, that's not good. You'd think my doctor would know that, being it's on my fucking portal on the first goddamn page. Fail. She was too busy on trying to fix her mic. Yeah, she was too busy trying to fix her mic. So, yeah, I update the portal and say, yo, what the hell are you prescribing? I didn't say that, but. Yeah, you did. Yeah. So she basically did what the pharmacy said, like, do Duvidecaine with this other thing. So then when I went to pick that up, they're trying to explain to me how to mix this shit together, and I'm completely lost.
15:17
And halfway through, I know I'm not taking any of this stuff because I don't even understand what they're saying. Yeah, three parts this, one part this, teaspoons. Okay, I got that. Oh, well, no, not a teaspoon, teaspoon. But here, let me give you these measuring things. Yikes. Yeah, you need to go to this line here and this line here and mix it. It's like, okay, no. Check, please. No, well, yeah, I got it, but I knew I wasn't going to use it. Oh, it gets better. We're still not done. I love this. This is great. So Tuesday, Tuesday I get a call from the doctor's office, my doctor,
15:53
and we've scheduled you for your appointment at the ENT, Albany ENT, ear, nose, and throat. Oh, my. For Friday at 930 a.m. Great. Okay. Five minutes later, I get a second call from Albany ENT. Hello? Oh, yes. You got a referral to us. I'm calling to schedule an appointment. That was already done. I'm coming in Friday at 930.
16:23
Oh, no, that won't work for us. Oh, I see. They beat me to it. Okay. Wow. At least they were on the same page. It continues. It continues. Oh, yeah. So Wednesday, I get an email from the Albany ENT saying, Check in. You can check in ahead of time. Everyone does this now. And I like it. Get it done so you don't have to go. It's like a hotel or like your airline. Because it's COVID season. They're all doing the COVID questions.
16:54
Are you sick? Yeah, think about that. I'm going in Friday. I have a sore throat. I'm going in Friday. And I'm answering these questions Wednesday. The first question, do you have a fever today? It's like, well, I don't have a fever today. I don't know if I'll have one Friday, but I'll answer your question. You see the stupidity, the utter stupidity. Oh, I know. So I fill all that shit in. Then when I go there Friday, the first thing they do after they check me in,
17:26
they give me a tablet. Like, yeah, you need to fill out more shit that wasn't in the other one. Like, okay. But at least the stuff I filled out was not the same stuff I filled out before. So it's like, okay, I'm cool with that. Right as I finish filling it out, nurse comes in. All right. Ron? Okay. She asked me, like, five questions. All five questions were things that were already answered on the tablet. Yeah. So if there's any doctors listening, can you please let me know, is this just total incompetence, or is he literally looking at the answers I gave and checking me to see if I'm
18:00
going to say the same thing? Because I kind of looked at her screen as she's doing this, and it sure as hell didn't look like it. She was filling stuff in. She wasn't looking at anything, which to me is just so fucking stupid. I have to answer the same shit that I already answered. And then when the doctor came in, the first thing she said, like, oh, I was going through the stuff you filled in in the tablet. Like, okay, she looked at it. Mm-hmm. You know, it just, so they, I got a camera down my nose. Yeah, that's how they look down your throat without you gagging.
18:33
They stick it down your nose. Well, I heard, I heard. Oh, stop. Oh, that's something new. I need to try that. It's a nose job. Is that the new term? We just made a new term. Oh, God. The nose job is when you do the, oh, my God, really? Okay. I just lost track of what I was going to say. Okay, great scintillating pinball discussion here. Basically, I have the same shit that I had like three or four years ago when I had the cough. It's nasal drip.
19:04
So they're like, do you ever use Flonase? Do you ever prescribe Flonase before? Yep. Same thing they gave me last time. So, yep, got some Flonase. I can't take that stuff. Oh. Why not? When I use Flonase, it actually makes my whole head, like, leak more. Oh, your whole head. I actually start leaking on my nose, and it drips down the back of my throat more. Oh. So it's worse. I used the Flonase. Oh, I found out I have narrow ear canals. Oh, wow.
19:35
I got my ear cleared out while I was there, too. Cool. My right ear always plugs up. But that explains why earplugs just don't work with me. They hurt like fucking hell. It's my narrow ear canals. Like your narrow urethra? So, basically, I got the Flonase. I've been using it for two days. Sword Throat's pretty much gone at this point. Good. After a month. So I probably should have went in earlier. But we're still not done, Bruce. No. The incompetence is not done. And Thursday, the day before my appointment, I get an email from my provider, a bill for $105 for my remote session.
20:12
Oh, yeah, I know. That's cute, isn't it? Well, it's cute in that, obviously, my insurance covers that, so why am I getting billed? And number two, there's no fucking way that was submitted to the insurance company and they gave any amount of time for them to process it. Because the appointment was late Monday, so the earliest that was sent in was Tuesday. Okay. The funny thing is, if I call up, I'm going to get the usual, oh, it's a timing thing, the system does the bill, and obviously, you know, probably hasn't been paid yet. But once it's paid, you know, that'll just clear out. It annoys me that, why are you telling me I owe money when obviously I'm not going to.
20:45
I mean, I'm going to ignore this for a couple weeks. Oh, I always do. Because I'm going to get something from my insurance company that says they paid it. And then if that thing's still there, I'm going to have to, like, yo, they paid this shit, get that fucking shit off of here. And here's the thing, folks. I actually have good medical coverage. You know, we actually, it's actually good. This is the top of the fucking line shit here. Fuck all of you. I'm moving to Canada. And that's the end of my rant. Rant over? Rant over.
21:16
All right. I quit Amazon. You quit Amazon? I had to. It was getting too much. Between the bar, running around for money, you know, not for money, for food and all this other stuff. Quit isn't a good term. You're taking a break. Because I'm sure they would take you back in a second. No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't? No, they'd just hire somebody else. It's, you know, when it comes to that kind of stuff. No, no, no. We need that guy that could shout across the entire warehouse and everyone could hear him. Oh, that was Bruce.
21:47
He left a little while ago. Fuck. Did you ever do that? Do, like, a voice carrying contest there in the warehouse? No, never. Actually, I was very quiet there You were very Wait a minute, hold on I did You were very quiet Yep, just did my work I don't believe that It's the truth The quiet Bruce is just Amazing, isn't it? That's just not right I posted a picture a few seconds ago on Slam Tilt Podcast On the Facebook
22:17
On the Facebook Not our page Not our Slam Tilt Podcast page But our Facebook page Yes Would you like to go check that out for two seconds? Oh, God Okay, it's not going to be vulgar, is it? Not at all, no. Have I ever posted a Facebook page picture to slam tilt that's been vulgar? No, but our listeners have. Of course. I posted two pictures. First, I posted that Milwaukee light with the soldering iron a couple weeks ago. That is the bomb, as I said before.
22:49
So explain what that is again, because people think it's a beer. No, it's not a beer. Milwaukee Tool Company. They actually make a cordless soldering iron that rocks. And also they have a lot of other accessories like sawzall and everything. And they have this humongous LED light. That's brighter than the sun. It's brighter than the sun. Okay. But I can post another picture today. Bruce, there's some corrosion on this thing. I know. Oh, my God.
23:20
I know. So if anyone ever wants to know what corrosion looks like, this is the picture. It's just like this milky white film over everything. Everything. It's like everything. It like spread out like a virus. The white stuff is just all over everything. Oh, yes. The white stuff's over everything. How are you ever going to get it off? Not. You're not. Yeah, that thing's trash. Yeah, that thing is one of the worst ones. That is, well, actually, that's how the CPU board and the LAMP driver board underneath it looked from the big game.
23:56
Yeah. When I first looked at that, I was like, oh, shit, that's probably not going to be fixable. No. Especially by me. I even asked Dak, like, you want these boards? He's like, no. I was like, really? I'm going to keep it, though, because I'll probably use the chips off the top side of it in case I need something off that. But if you look, what I wanted to point out to you was the Stern board, the CPU board. Look how they wrote Stern. What do you mean? It says Stern. No, no, no.
24:28
It's like the first generation board. They've had many generation boards, and the Stern is just written out in block, S-T-E-R. If you look at the newer Stern boards, there's like three variations, and they all have different names, you know, like we've all seen with Stern's logo back then. this is one that's just like block letters and if you look at an Astro board remember how we've talked about in the past with the Black Sheep Squadron? They were also blue and they just had Astro in block letters.
24:59
So the same company must have been doing the silk screening and everything for both in the beginning Stern and Astro. Okay. Which I thought was pretty cool. And you don't see many blue boards around anymore. There's a discussion we never did. What? Astro? No, the Like the different, like Stern changing their logo. Oh, they changed so many. There's so many. Well, no. I can only think of, they had the original logo by Stern. Then somewhere around Stargazer, they changed it to what I call almost the Elvis font. Like, you know, the Elvis letter.
25:30
If you ever look at an Elvis, look at a Stern Elvis, the way the letters are. We're going to go just right now. Yeah. If you look at this, like the Stern, that's what they went with. And they used that for the rest of their run until they went out of business. And then they started using it when they came back. They didn't change it. They used the same font until they started doing the Stern pinball, the font they're using now. I think they've only had three or four fonts in their existence. No, they've had more.
26:02
No, I disagree. Oh, I love it. Disagreement. Prove time. Okay, so let's go to pinball first. Let's go to pinball. Which is pinball, pinball. Yeah, pinball, pinball. The stern is crooked. It's not straight block letters. It's crooked in the back glass. Okay. So that's our first variation. Do you agree? Hold on. I'm getting up here. You're going to be doing a lot of editing, thank God. No, a lot of editing. I'm not editing any of this. This is exciting.
26:32
This is scintillating. Liquid gold. What? Liquid gold. Black ice. Texas Pee or something. Okay, so they got this. It's just a stern. It's small. And it's crooked. It's crooked. Yes, it's slanted. Okay, perfect. Okay, that's pinball. Yep. Going to the next one. I'll go to stars. What does it look like on stars? Same thing. It's got the same block with the slant. Okay. So we got one design so far. Yep, I know.
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Now, if you go to Dracula. It's block letters now. It's a little crooked, but it's straightening up a little bit now. It's straightening up? It's actually straightening up. Is it getting excited? But it's straightening up a little bit. It's still a little slanted, but it's block letters now, and it says by Stern. Yeah, that's – come on. Really? You're going to get that? I am. That's the same. No, that's the same logo. It's just a different color. Now we go to Ali. It's a slanted block logo.
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They still haven't changed it. Go to Ali. To me, that's still the same. I'm looking at Ali right now. And now it's totally different. Okay, there you go. So Ali, that's the first, so we have two now. To me, the block slant is the same. So now with Ali, we have a new incursion, which doesn't that kind of look like what they're using now in a way? It does almost, yes. It does. They kind of went back to the past. Okay. That's it. Now, Flight 2000, totally different one. That's the newer spot. Yeah, that's the third.
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That's the Elvis font, I call it, because it's off. And they use that to the end. So if you go to... What do you mean do not What do you mean do not I going to go to Q Q has the same thing It the same format They just added the Seabird below it But that the thing There a different No, that's not different. Folks, he's wrong. Don't even bother. So that's three. No, the Stern logo, there's three different ones that you use. Hold on. There's a Bloxlanded. There's that. They didn't use that second one that long for some reason.
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I like the second one the best. And they used it the least. What the hell? Who's in charge of their marketing? Then when they came back, so what was the one when they came back? It was like the soccer one. Striker Extreme. And does it even say Stern? Hey, Stern, where are you? There it is, yeah. They basically used, it's the same block, the Elvis logo, but they put it in like a red background now. But it's the same exact font, the same text.
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but I'm curious when they actually changed that to the current one. So that would only be four total real font, different fonts that they've used in their life. Yeah, I like the second one the best. I like the second one the best of the original. It's cheetah on there. And only good games mostly had it on, mostly. So, yeah, so when they came back, they used the exact same font they were using when they went out of business. They just put it in a red background, but it's literally the exact same.
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I call it the Elvis. Oh, there is a different one. Oh? Hot hand. I knew there was another one. I knew it. I knew I had to prove it wrong. Yeah. I did. I did have to prove it wrong. Okay, hold on. Hot hand. So did Harry Williamson's just on a different logo? I don't know. I want a different logo for my game. Wow, so they did a one-off is what you're telling me? Yeah. Why would they do that? Oh, yeah, that's a total one-off. Told you. I told you before.
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It's flannered, but it's not blocked. No, it's not blocked at all. It's a completely different logo. It's terrible, actually. That sucks. That's the worst of the ones I've seen. I know, but it's like, wow. Why would they do a... Oh, that's so weird to do a one-off. I told you. And then let's see what Trident has, because Trident's in between that. Man, an interesting logo discussion. Logo discussion is. Because I kind of, I like when you get a good logo and you keep it, because then it's just your brand. Like, that's why we have the same music intro and outros forever, because, you know, our listeners want to hear that.
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Triton's even different. I know, I told you. They made it actually, instead of just being an add-on to the Backglass, it's part of the Backglass artwork. I know. So there's a lot of different Stern logos. Okay, but as far as the ones they actually used multiple times? Yes. that looks like so far there's four. Yes. But there's like six or seven different versions. So there's like the block. So the ones they use all the time, there's the cool, the block slant. Block slant, which I like. Then the one we really liked that they used on.
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The signature one is the best. Yeah, they used the signature one, and then they went to the Elvis one, and now they have the one they're using now. So really, as far as the ones they are using, let me look at. And, of course, I could just go downstairs and look at a game. You could, but you don't. No. So, Deadpool. So, if we look at Deadpool. Man, it's hard to just get a, wow, I can't even get a back glass shot. It's all flyers. Like, come on, IPDB. No one's going to just put pictures of their game on here?
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They do. And here's the funny thing. Cosmic Princess, which was made almost late in 79, almost, you know, 80, has the block square like Hot Hand does. And in between that, they had a game that was different, you know, so it's just like, what the fuck? Yeah, now they're using the cursive, well, it's not, it's the stern that's inside the flipper with a ball on it. Yeah. So still, they did one-offs, but as far as logos they used multiple games,
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there's actually only four in 40-plus years. Yeah. But, yeah, I like the script one the best. Yeah, the script one, yeah. The one that's like on Sheeta and all, yeah. Yes, that's the best one. I like that. I like the current one because it's actually on a flipper with a ball. Yeah, but I still like this current one the best, the script. If I was going to get a tattoo of one, that would be the one I'd do. There you go. And being on slam tilt, you pretty much have to do that, right? I know. Oh, my. And a bally.
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Bally and blue. So, Bruce. Yes. Any toppers lately? Oh, God. So, since our last episode, Stern has come out with a Jurassic Park topper. Mmm. $600. Which basically means, if you looked at it, it doesn't move. Nope. It lights up. You're paying $200 for a special mode. It's basically what you're paying for.
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Yep. And they're starting to experiment with, what's it called again? DLC? Yes, DLC. Paid content. If you want that option. I can't fault them. It's getting late. Oh, I can't fault them for trying to make money. You can't fault them at all because it sold out. It did sell out. A complete success. They're going to do more of them, man. I would do more of them. I listen to the I can't remember what other podcast this was on so I apologize but they mentioned that it should be I think it was the super awesome pinball show where
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if you're going to do this at least put it like you know when they have those matrix the matrix they have for every new game have like you just got the three columns they'll have the pro premium and the LE have maybe one at the bottom that's the supplemental crap And it was, topper, this, this. And so you know, okay, a topper's coming, and it's not going to be on the game. That's another thing I'm going to have to pay for. That's all. I still don't agree with it. Well, what don't you agree with?
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Just, it's a cash grab. Well, yeah. Again. They need to make money. They're scorned. What's the issue? I think what they should be doing instead of doing the topper is make the LEs worth more. Make it more demanding for LEs or even LE in premium. So maybe make the LE more expensive but put the topper on it? No, no, no, not even that. If you do like a Tron LE, an extra mode in your higher price games,
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and your lower price game like, you know, the Pro gets maybe 10 modes, and then, ooh, if you paid this extra money for the premium or LE, you get one extra mode, and it comes in the game. The thing to remember, for those who don't know how this stuff works at Stern, the toppers, it's like another department. There's another team working on the topper. So I'm just trying to, there's a lot of different, you know, Stern is not a large company, but, I mean, they have different groups working on different things.
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Wow. I found another back glass with a different... And Rawhide for Stern. It's called Sterns. They have an apostrophe S. But I think it's still the slanted block, though. It is slanted block, but it's still Sterns. Sterns, Rawhide. Wasn't that like one of the first ones? That was their... No, they had one before that, I think. But isn't Rawhide the two-player version or some crap? I'm just trying to remember. Because there's two of them. Yeah, there's Stampede, yeah. Yeah, because they're probably telling you, this isn't Chicago.
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Coins game. This is a Stearns game. Stearns. So he's not a fan of the topper. Well, how about the topper itself? I mean. Oh, it's lame. For $600, not worth it at all. $600. I mean, it's just what hurts is when you've released the, what, $500 Black Knight Sword of Rage topper, like the coolest topper you've ever seen. It's like, oh, okay. And did that sell out? I believe so. It's got to. I'm just saying, did it or did it not?
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I would rather have that but not the game. Oh, me too. Can I put that on my Black Knight? Yeah, your original Black Knight. Oh, that would be fucking awesome. Maybe why don't you do this? Oh, man, like maybe some kind of supplemental board, wire the thing in and somehow. Just have it move. Oh, yeah. No way. Every time you flip the flipper, go, no way, or just move the head. I mean, you could probably, the game knows when you activate the magnet and it doesn't work because it laughs at you. Instead of laughing, it activates the topper.
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It just shakes its head. No way. Come on, modders. Make it happen. I want to see this. Oh, that would be so awesome. It would be. It would definitely fit on, because the back boxes are so much bigger on the older games. It wouldn't be a problem with space. That would fit on there easily. All right. Checking off the topper. So, did you see any of the Hot Wheels footage? I saw a little bit of it. There was some bizarre drama going on with, like, posting.
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Oh, God, oh, fucking mighty. There was, like, straight down the middle posted a unboxing video or something on Friday, but the stream was Saturday, so then they had to pull one of the videos, and, yeah, it's just, I don't know, it just, go to Pinsley if you want to read the drama. I don't. Oh, it's a bitch fest. Yeah, as usual. But basically... Luckily, we stay out of this. Yeah, we stay out of this. So, they streamed... The DevFlat did the stream on Saturday,
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which we learned that the American Pinball Factory must have really steady internet. Yes, they do. Because basically, he just couldn't get the stream working with their internet, so he had to use his own phone. Golden. Yeah. Well, that's what you do. I think he's got one of those... Hotspots. Yeah, hotspot, yeah. that he has specifically for the internet totally sucks. So he used that. So they were about a half hour late, but they got started. And, I mean, looks pretty darn fun. It does. You know, I love when they steal modes from other.
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Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay. Are you going to say Redline Mania because it's the same name? Thank you. Come on. See, you know, give me a fucking break. Oh, wow. So don't try to use the same name of a mode for Bruce or he'll hate you. Okay. What happens with, you know, okay, maybe we'll do it. We'll call it, you know, like ReadLine Media, you know, just like a different name like they did for fucking... I think if you get a super jackpot, it should just put the letters super jackpot. I was waiting for that. You were waiting for that.
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That would be awesome. I want to make a game where we just rip off... In a different tune, dude. We just rip off, like, what was it, Junkyard, that just used crap from previous games? Oh, yeah. But we do a thing where we just rip off every manufacturer, every game. There's this, like, red line media. We have pre-back time when you hit the red. Jesus Christ. That would be funny. It looked fun, though. I mean, they went crazy with the LEDs. They got all the multi, you know, color-changing stuff. So it looks like you're watching TNA.
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Those light shows are awesome. I think that's one of the things, God, that NEC did with TNA, and then they did it with Rick and Morty. They've taken the light shows to a different – It unlocks the full potential of the color-changing LEDs a lot more than I've seen elsewhere. But, yeah, it looked fast. It looked fun. I really liked the robot chicken animation stuff they had going on. I'd never heard of the whatever YouTube series they're taking that from, but it was just like, hey, it's like robot chicken. Cool. So when's your order going in?
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I'd have to play it. I'd really have to play it. But, you know, I like giving everyone a chance. Oh, of course. I mean, the game looks good. It looks like it plays good. Hey, Rick and Morty's are taking deposits now for like 115, so I'm getting closer. Oh, I almost forgot you got a Rick and Morty. Yeah. Are you excited? I am. Because I think with the later models, they have adjusted some of the crap that didn't work in the earlier models.
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Yes, it looks like it. Yeah, so this is one of those deals, especially anything with Spooky, I would want to be later in the run. Oh, yeah, definitely. And I hear all these bitchfests about other things. Some other podcasts are bringing up other things about stuff, and it's just like, really? Oh, my God. Bitchfests about other things about stuff. The monitors and the build quality and dimpling and, like, really? We've always said a game's got to fucking dimple. It always has to fucking dimple. It's a piece of wood with a steel ball on it.
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What the fuck? Well, my quicksilver ain't going to dimple ever because it's going to have the greatest clear-go job ever. It will. Mike, honestly, my, he did my, what's it called? What the hell is it? By he, we're talking about one of the locals, Mr. Ron Fester. Vance, who did my clear-coat, is going to be doing Ron's. Yeah, it has not one dimple on it. So I'm very happy with that. Basically, he takes the old shitty clear coat off and then puts the new clear coat on.
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Yep. And with mine, I mean, when I get it back, I'm probably just going to let it sit for a year before I put it in. It's definitely cured now. Yes. No problem. And then hopefully I'll be getting my play field back from one of my cheetah play field back. Mm-hmm. My NOS one. He's doing – another person's doing touch-ups on it. He doesn't do touch-ups. So – and they're going to hopefully have that done soon. So I have my stars one back. The Stars looks incredible. Incredible. So now I have a Stars NOS back glass, play field, plastics.
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Boy, it's like almost making another Stars. Yeah, you've got like a new Stars going on there. I could. Because, you know, it is the official game of the Flantil podcast. Yep. And I haven't heard for my back glass yet for Quicksilver, but hopefully in the next four or five weeks I'll hear from BG Resto. Yep. They did the one in mine. In July, like the time I would have had off for replay, I will probably be visiting the Silver Ball Saloon.
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And I might be bringing something. Let's just leave it there. Oh, my. What are you bringing me? I'm not telling you. That's why it's a surprise. Is it good? Sure. It's good. Love it. So stay tuned in another couple of episodes. Cool. what it is. Maybe it's the 150 episode you're bringing me something. 150. Oh yeah, any pinball personalities or employees that listen to this
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who want to be on 150, let us know. Hey Gary Stern, do you want to be on? I got vodka. If you got his phone number that you gave to everybody. Yes. I want to remember in vodka, we got ya. He was interviewed on the pinball news podcast. I got to listen to that to see if they got anything more out of him. He's tough to get anything out of more personal. It's just he's always in Gary Stern mode, if you know what I mean. Yeah. I mean, Marty did a good job on head-to-head.
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He got his most out of them I've ever heard. But still, it's hard. Oh, yeah. I just always feel I'm talking to the president of Stern Pinball. I'm not talking to the man, Gary Stern. Yes. And then JJP's first episode of podcast came out. Yeah, with the 30-year-old owner. Yes. Well, him and his dad, but yeah. It's like, it's a new ball game, new innovation, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay. It kind of sounds like the...
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A younger version of... Robert Mueller. It sounds like Robert Mueller. Well, you know, brother, we're going to change the game, dude. It's back to wrestling mode, dude. Wow, I can do Hulk Hogan again. It's cool your throat doesn't kill you, isn't it? Yeah, brother. It's number one. We're going to take it all out with Guns N' Roses, dude. We're going to have Flash in all the reveals, brother. We're going to have Guns N' Roses, the whole fucking band there. That would be interesting. That would be. That would be interesting. I mean, we always talk about, you know, Slash, Slash, but, I mean, is it Guns N' Roses pinball? Wouldn't Axl want to be there?
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I don't know. He'd be up there double flipping because he doesn't know how to play. Slash would make fun of him. Then he'd walk out. And he'd be responsible for them breaking up again. That'd be great. Pinball machine, Guns N' Roses, separate again. That would be funny. That would be classic. Oh, God. I have another story. This is a good one. This one, I make an on-air apology to Ryan.
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I won't use his last name. Yeah, Ryan told me I seemed way more flustered about this than he did. But it's, I screwed up big time. Big time. This one's called Ron is Stupid. Well, that's a given, so go ahead. Oh, sorry. No, no, I'm sorry. Hey! Here's the full story. So, you remember a few months ago, I sold the Dracula. And I sold it to the, the buyer was a guy from New England, in Massachusetts.
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And he got it. And this was when I had brought the Dracula, and I also had the Star Trek Next Gen upstairs, folded up in a corner. and when he bought the Dracula you know I mentioned the Star Trek and he's looking over and it's like hey I might be interested in that I don't have the money now but it's like okay I'm going to be setting it up soon getting it ready I was going to put it on pin side etc I was like okay I eventually set up the Star Trek
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and then it was actually during I was watching the Syracuse Pinhead stream give it a plug out here Syracuse Pinheads and Ryan who does the stream we start getting into conversation during the stream and I mentioned how the Star Trek I have the Star Trek is going to be for sale and I hadn't put it on Pinside or anything yet so then like basically off stream he said yeah I'm interested in that so we talked about it sent him some pictures so he sends
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we basically agree and then he sends me a deposit it and I said like I'm in no hurry this was like this was right before COVID started so then COVID happened so it's going to be a delay obviously so it sat there for months then I get a text like stay on a Wednesday I get a text run I got the money now so it's like you know okay Ryan's got the money now he's like can I come can I come this Saturday the Saturday good like Saturday's
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Good. Okay. Good. So we're all set. So I'm going to get this thing sold. So Saturday comes around, I get another text like when he's leaving. It's like, yeah, I'm leaving now. I'll be there in like two, two and a half hours, which is Ryan's in Syracuse. Yeah, two and a half hours. Yep, yep. Okay. So. Oh, no. Time comes. I get the knock on the door. Boom, boom, boom. Open up the door. And. It's not Ryan. It's the Dracula guy.
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Oh, no. Yeah. There with his trailer and the money, ready to pick the game up. Oh, no. That I told him was his. What had happened, when he texted me, I thought it was Ryan. Because I didn't have Ryan's number. And I didn't hear from the guy, like, for months, so I deleted him off the phone. So I didn't realize it was not Ryan. I thought it was him because the way he worded it, you know, I have the money now. Because Ryan was waiting to get the money, to pay for the thing, the rest of the money.
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So what happened? And then when he said he was leaving and he was two and a half hours away, well, he's about the same distance away from the east that Ryan is from the west. You see where this is like, what do I do here? You call Ryan and see if he still wants the game. Yeah, that's when I realized I didn't have his number. Oh, God, that's when you needed to message me. And the guy is standing right there. Hold on, please. It's like one of those skits you see on one of those comedy shows.
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Like, hold on, please. Let me right back. Close the door. Oh, shit. What the hell are we doing now? Yeah. Basically, I got a hold of Ryan eventually and apologized. And the guy got the, he took the Star Trek. Yeah. I mean, he literally has the money. He has a full trailer he brought with him to get the thing in there. Oh, and his wife was with him. See, I told you how to buy these games. You can't stop me. I told Ryan, you have first dibs on anything now, anything you want.
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But I was stupid and an idiot. Yeah, that was pretty good. That's a first for her. That's a first, especially when I open the door and see the guy, and I'm like, wait a minute, that's the Dracula guy. I think I even said, is Ryan behind you? And he's like, who's Ryan? Yeah, I'm like in shock, like, uh... It's like, what do I do here? It's like, yeah, that was... Because I kind of told him in the text, like, oh, yeah, come on up, pick it up. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah.
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So, again, sorry, Ryan. I immediately refunded his deposit, if anyone's wondering. That's good. So, that asset damage on pinball will be probably replaced in the CPU, and I'm going to be, I have extra light boards, that's no problem. And I'm going to hook it up and see what it powers on and go from there. Needs a whole new rubber kit, needs plastics. Anybody got plastics for a pinball? Plastics for a pinball, there you go. So if you have plastics for a pinball, you can get a hold of us at slamtillpodcasts at gmail.com.
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And I want an Ali still. What the fuck, people? Yes, he wants all of them. I got trade bait for you people. Come on. Oh, what's the trade me? I got a beautiful Harlem. That's one. Okay. What else do I have? I got a couple of, I even, guess what? If I have to get the really nice one, I'll pull out the old hot dog. You said pull out. Pull out my hot dog. Yeah, actually, yeah, that sounds even dirtier. But my hot dog is clear-coated play field.
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Yeah, it is. It's the nicest hot dog you'll ever play, folks. That's coming from me. He made me not hate it. I did. If you can find me an Ali, guys, I got stuff to trade. None of the Stern stuff, though, because I'm actually, I really enjoy the Stern stuff. Yes, he's going to be starting the Stern Pinball Museum with the. No, I don't have a cue, so I'm screwed. Yeah, but you know where one is. I do. I'd like to get his. Actually, you know, if we had like a Pintastic or something like that, if you could do some gimmick,
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We will have every Stern game at this show, and everyone brings those. There's like a queue there. Maybe someone has an Iron Maiden. Someone has a Cosmic Princess. Basically what the Pacific Pinball Expo did. But they had everything except queue. That's funny. Or if you really want to get crazy, you get the Laser Lord Whitewood. Get that in there for the ultimate. That would be kind of cool. In our monthly podcast cancellation announcement, California Extreme was canceled.
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Yes. I was not surprised. So add that to the list. Was it all carried over on that one? Was it like if you had a ticket? Oh, I don't know. I don't know either because we haven't gotten so long. I don't even get the updates anymore. It's too crowded, and then half the time it ends up being the exact same weekend as replay. Anyway, so. So, but, you know, we get to play a lot of super rare games at that show, that's for sure. Yes, we do. We've never played the Beavis and Butt-head prototype, the Gallagher gun game. That one game that you mastered almost immediately, the laser disc game or...
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Oh, yes. What the hell was that called? The Act. I love that game. I'd love to find one of those. I mean, was that the first time you played it? Yes. Yeah. He plays it, and then basically by the time the show ended, he was getting through it every time and showing other people how to get through it. and then showing other people how to do nasty things on it. You thrust or go back or whatever, so it's the guy who's trying to pick up this woman, so you just go all the way, and the guy would jump on her. I think it's on my YouTube channel, my personal one.
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It's fun, like the act walkthrough. Yes, that's a great game. Bruce is a much superior gamer to me, if the listeners don't know that. I don't know about that. Oh, come on. I never had a world record. I don't even have that anymore. I know, but I never did, so. So, what else do I have on the list? Oh, amazingly, the Stu's throat issues have healed also. What? No. Stu McVicker's throat issues have healed at the same time as mine. I don't know how this is possible, but yes.
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That's not going to happen. He will be back this Monday. Cool. Which is going to be difficult for him to do his karaoke because DMCA has hit Twitch. I heard. Yeah, so if you're streaming and you've got music playing in the background, you're going to get a hit. And if you get three, you're taken away. Strikes. But they can also just mute you, which has been what's happened on our channel, the Slam Tilt stream, Slam Tilt Podcast channel. Pretty much if you don't watch the Stu live, you won't get to hear him because on the pods,
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if you're listening to the video after the fact, they mute out whenever Stu is singing. Really? However, if you go to our YouTube page, again, if you go to slamtillpodcast.com and look in the upper right-hand corner, you can see the links to our YouTube page, or if you just go to YouTube and search for Slam Till Podcast, we'll have a channel on there, a playlist of all the streaming with Stu's, and they're all going to be on there, including all the individual things he sings. They usually, what will happen on YouTube, you'll get a copyright ding on them,
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so you can't monetize it, but they don't pull it. And there's tons of stuff like that out there. There's tons of people doing karaoke, people doing drum covers from original tracks. They'll just, you'll have a copy. And I already have on the channel, I checked the streaming, which dudes I have out there already have multiple copyright hits. You just can't monetize it, which since we don't make any money. We make nothing. I believe the world should watch Stu McVicker. He is that incredibly talented.
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But people keep telling me there's these rumors that Stu McVicker and me are the same person. I know. I hear this. I'm getting pissed. I've never met Stu, though, yet. So when I actually meet Stu, maybe I'll have a better opinion since I know you so well. You'll know if it's obviously not me. Exactly. Well, we're going to clear all this up. In the upcoming episode of the Slam Tilt Stream, streaming with Stu, I will be on the screen at the same time as Stu.
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How? Because we're two different people. What do you mean how? I'm going to end these rumors. I'm tired of this. We are different people. Yes. I am tired of this. I talked it over with Stu, and that's what we're going to do. We going to be both on the screen at the same time to prove that we are two different people And I sick of it He keeps feeding all my high scores too He a real dick I know He is good at pinball He is good You suck That improves it You suck I guess so
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I mean, he beat my Ironman score, my Demoman score. He, even with his throat issues he was having, he played Deadpool and got to the Megalosaurus or whatever. What's it called? Megalosaurus. Yeah. The Supergirl Crackalosaurus or whatever. Whatever. Mr. Sinister. Whatever it's called. I've never been there. So, of course, he does it on stream because he's a dick. He will be back. Mm-hmm. And we also must mention the passing of one of the 10-ball luminary, Steve Epstein.
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He went fast, unfortunately. That was the sad part. There was basically an announcement. He was going in for cancer treatments and posts, like, your memories with Steve to make him feel better. and I think it was like a week and a half later, he's in hospice care. And then a day later, he passed away. That's sad, very sad. He was one of the founders of Papa, Roger Sharp, and ran the Broadway Arcade for many years in New York City.
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And he actually has a connection to my dad. When they had Silver Ball Museum in Asbury Park, New Jersey, when they first opened and they had their first tournament, Steve Epstein ran it, and he had like an A and a B division. He beat, Steve Epstein beat my dad in the finals for B division. That's the connection. So, Godspeed to Steve. Yep. And his family. That's very sad. So, listen to, he had a great interview on, I think it was Pinball Profile.
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He's been on a lot of different ones, but the Pinball Profile did a really, like an hour long, it was one of the longer ones they did with him. I think it was last year. Yep. Go check that out. Let's see. What else do we have? Oh, we have a game. Oh. Yes, we have a game. This is the new game. Well, I, of course, am a member of the Pinball Network, being on Super Bowl Chronicles. Are you? Yes, I am. And as part of that, their flagship show is, of course, the pinball show with Dennis and
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your buddy Zach, who you just refused to co-host with him for some reason. I've asked many times. Oh, come on. You two, yeah. He just can't handle the goodness of me. I think the universe may explode if you two are ever on the same show. I think he's really free. But they had a segment on there. They had a trivia thing that Dr. John Cosson, one of their correspondents, and we know Dr. John of Australia. he did this game that they played that they were utterly confused by the rules
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and they kind of like shit on it so I during one of the streams I was doing Dr. John was in the chat and I basically said hey how about a game for us and he within like a week here you go here's a game it's like damn okay so supposedly in the description he put It's some kind of, what did he say, music trivia? Like pinball music trivia? We'll see. I have not listened to it, and neither has Bruce.
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It went to the mail ball bag. There you go. And neither of us listened to it because we want to be, you know, we can't listen to it because I think we're going to be playing against each other, so that would be kind of cheating. So let me see. I'll get everything ready here. I will splice the actual clips in later, but for now I'm just going to put my mic up to the speaker so Bruce can hear. Ooh, here we go. All right, so here it is. Thank you, Dr. John, Dr. John Cosson, for his slam-tilt quiz.
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Dun, dun, dun! By a special request from Ron, and after being booted off the Pinball Network's quiz segment and just sticking to my corresponding gig, I've got a little quiz for Ron and Bruce and any guests that may happen to be roped into their web. This one's music-based. Let's see how we go. What I want to do is play some samples of songs. You have to guess the song title and the artist, and then the pinball machine that artist is related to.
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I won't be playing the songs that they did on the pinball machine, but they are all somewhat involved in a pinball game. You'll see how we go. I start easy and I get ridiculously hard towards the end, perhaps. So let's make a start. I'll play a small clip of the song. If you get it from the small clip, write down your answer and give yourself two points. I'll then play a longer clip. If you get it from then, give yourself one point. I'll then tell you the artist.
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You then have to write down what the pinball machine is. I have ten of them. Off we go. First clip. If you know it, song and artist, write it down. If not, here's a longer one. Okay. I don't... Did you know it? Yes, hold on. I'm not writing anything down, so I'm not going to get the two points. I'm trying to think of it. Party, party.
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We want to get... Move it, move it. We want to get... Party, party. Come on, sign one, then. Okay, I don't know. I know the song, but I don't know the title of it or anything. All right, so we're passing on the first one. Ha, ha, ha. Like the legend of the space, you get back. See, at least you know it. I am clueless. I have no idea. Move it, move it, move it. Something like that, yeah. I don't know who sings it. Did you want to, well, do you get any, I can't remember already.
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Do you get a point if you can guess the song, or do you need the artist? Yeah, the second time. We shouldn't be discussing it because we're supposed to be writing it down because I could just write down whatever you told me it was. All right, let's see what we got here. Not much longer, but a bit of lyrics, and then the title part of the song, if you still don't know it. She's a fun night to the sun. I'm a fun night to get sun. She's a fun night for good fun. I'm a fun night to get lucky sun. So that would be two points if you got it from the short first clip,
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one point if you got it from the long clip. We suck. And that was, of course, a song by Daft Punk. The song being Get Lucky, with some help from Pharrell Williams, and the pinball machine they're associated to. Tron. The answer is Tron. So, after the first question, your maximum score would be three. Zero. You got the band and the song from the first music clip and the pinball machine. Two if you got it from the second music clip and the pinball machine,
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and one if you only get the pinball machine. So we are zero. And we both suck. Yeah, we're both at zero. That's easy. That's the easy one. We're fucked. I don't know a single Daft Punk song. How do I? I'm too old. All right. Let's go to the next one. Here's your next sample. Okay. I'm in. I do not need the other one. Yeah, I know. Actually, It's multiple games
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It could be multiple games I'm putting both of them in Yes I wonder if he'll do that We'll see Pretty easy But he's another bitch just in case And the title In the words and that is of course ZZ Top with legs and the pinball machine there associated with
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as a choice of three at the start of the game Lethal Weapon 3 oh wow so I actually had two different ones for that I actually had The Getaway or Back to the Future because both of those songs are also in ZZ Top. I had Getaway and Lethal Weapon 3, so does that mean I get the three points and you only get the two? I don't think so. That's what I've named, man. Come on. I think that's, I don't know, because... I think we were supposed to name one, but he said like three.
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How do we know that's associated with three? I'm confused. Well, there's three games that actually have ZZ Top, but I don't know ZZ Top's songs on them. I picked two. You picked two, but we both didn't pick three. I say we both get three points on that, because we both have it. Or both two points. Okay, we can do two. Yeah. Because I actually, you know, you know about Back to the Future. I didn't know Back to the Future had it. It has, what's it called, the ZZ Top song, the third one. It's going to be, okay, so just name the entire Eliminator album or LaGrange.
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No, it's actually not a future. It actually has Double Back. It's the Double Back song. Oh, okay. So it's not even on those albums. It's actually just on the soundtrack for, and they play that, the song, when you get in the multi-ball. Okay. It's a double back song. All right. So that's why I picked Back to the Future. Okay. Hope it's going along okay so far. Anyway, next song, a small sample for you. Oh, yeah.
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So you're not writing anything down? I'm not writing anything down, are you? Okay, I can't say. Well, you could say, because I need to know if you actually wrote something down. Why? Does it matter? Well, it does, because you should be two points or one point. Yeah, well, we'll know by the end. Oh, God. Actually, no, I have no idea. Okay, good. That's where it should be. And just in case you haven't got it, the title in the song.
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I'm in love. With the other woman. Thanks. I know the pinball machine. You're better than me. At least you'll get a point. Damn it. And it's going to be. Can I say it then? Well, we wait until he gives the answer. You write it down. Write it down. I know what it is. Well, I can say it because you're not going to cheat against me, are you? No. It's Ray Parker Jr. Ghostbusters Oh shit Okay yeah Sorry but go ahead Which is of course
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I'm in love with the other woman By Ray Parker Jr. And the game he's associated with As we all know Ghostbusters So I am up 3-2 on you Fuck I got zero points there At least you got the game Bonus points if you can tell me who sued him over that song Bonus points if we can tell who sued him over that song. Oh, what the hell was it? I know that. Hold on.
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Three, two, one. No, it's somebody famous, too. Go ahead. Okay, it's Huey Lewis. Two artists successfully sued him over that song for music buffs, and they were M with Pop Music and Huey Lewis and The News with Got a New Drug. Anyway. So you got a point then? So I got a point. So we're tied. Three. Oh, thank you, bonus. Thank you for the bonus. Boo.
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Hey. All right. Next song. Okay. I know the song and the artist, but the game? I'll write that down. What the hell would the game be? Okay, we'll play the next song. Oh, I think I know the game. I'm going to guess the game, so if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Okay, I've written down three things here. Okay, go ahead. Play that, because I don't have... Is that enough, or do you want this extra little bit?
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Okay. I hope... I want to be free. Queen, I want to be free. No? You're saying no? Your title might be off there. I'm your friend, so I'm being nice to you on the title. Think of the lyric. I want to be free. I want to...
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I don't know. I know it's Queen. I'm saying I want to be free. And the pinball machine? sure I don't know what a pinball machine would be and if you didn't know it the final bit with the title I want to break free it's break free and as we all know Queen with the only song that was banned on BBC because of the film clip and I want to break free
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and the game Queen's associated with of course Flash Gordon Yeah, got it. Okay, so you got three. I got one. So you're up 6-3. Yeah. I'm thinking, like, I know it's, like, what the hell game, and I'm, like, what, dumbass? It's Flash Gordon. It has to be. It's the only association I can think of with Queen. That's right, the video was banned because they were all in drag. Yes. The song wasn't on the game, but it was in the movie, and the game is on the movie.
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Oh, it should have been on the game. Hopefully that's close enough. They get harder, as you know. This one, one of the greatest artists of all time And I want two pinball machines Associated with him Please It's a play segment of his song That's in neither game But it's him Uh Yeah, I don't know it all either Uh, Yanni?
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No, just kidding Uh, yeah, I have no clue No one's getting three points Nope Told you they get harder Do you know that one? I shall give you a little more harmonica mellow solo Oh I can't even tell you what I think I know the song That one part I don't even know what it would be associated with at all I'm going to pass, I have nothing
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I have nothing either Best chance to get a point And you've got to know that one There's no words for it I can't put them in But of course Moon River And who did Moon River? That's the big question Okay If you know the name You'll know the pinball machine Or machines Because there were two And the composer and artist's name was of course Okay Beats the fuck out of me I know the art Yeah, I think I know the artist I'll say it's Henry Mancini
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and if I have to name two games Pink Panther and I have no idea what the second game would be. I would say 007. Didn't he do didn't he do Soundtracks? He didn't do the Bond theme, no. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't tell you. So let's see if I get a point. Henry Mancini. Yay! I'll play the song from the first machine.
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See? No, that's bigger guy. Actually, what pinball machine is that in? I know. I got that. I'm losing track of how we're doing the points, too. Yeah. I got one for the artist. Yes, you did. And I said Pink Panther. But you didn't put that one up yet. No, no, he didn't say it yet, but that's my guess.
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I know this one. May I? Yeah, go ahead. Spy Hunter. It's actually in the pinball machine, too? Yes, it is. Well, associated with it. Okay. Which is, of course, a Peter Gunn theme used in Whodunit. Oh, Whodunit. It's also in Spy... No. Oh, it's in, that's an old ballet. You think that actually played the song? Well, guess what? It didn't play it in, Queen didn't play it in that either. Oh, God, here we go. See what you've done, John? And the sticking game.
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Yeah! So I got that. So here's the thing, though. I think you said you needed both games to get a point. Yeah, so, okay. So I get shit anyway. You got the Henry Mancini. So I got one point for Henry Mancini. A 7-3. One of the best scenes from a movie ever, with our words, Pink Panther, which is also a pinball machine. Yeah. And next up...
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Okay. I have... You have an idea? I know where it's from, and I was trying to think what pinball machine would be associated with. I think I have it. I have the pinball machine. Just write it down. I know it. Go ahead. But I have the pinball machine. One of my favorite all-time movies in the series by Robert Redford and Paul Newman. But, of course, it's got nothing to do with that movie. Who's the player who also wrote the song?
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And if you don't know, I'll play the actual tune from the pinball machine. that might help. And that is Maple Leaf Rag. The first one was The Entertainer, used in The Sing Sting. Yes. And both written and performed by Scott Joplin. And that last one, Maple Leaf Rag, was used in the game Champion Pub. Yep. I got that one.
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Yeah. Okay. What he's doing the piano bit in the thing. No, no, no. I'm trying to get the points again. I mean, you shouldn't have to name everything because we'll never get any points. I know. So we'll just go by what we're doing. 7-4, you're still up. I got a point for that. Yeah, you got a point. We're doing the slam-tilt scoring system here. Yes, so fuck you all. We're slam-tilt. We change the rules of the game as it's occurring. Yes. Next up.
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Okay. I know who it was. You know something? Oh, I know all of it. Oh, okay. So I know who wrote it. Wow. I know the name of the title. Okay. Don't know the pinball machine yet. But I'm trying to think. Yeah, I can't say it. But I know who wrote it and everything. I have those two down. Just makes me want to tap my feet. Now, this one's getting a bit confusing for the game, but I'll give you a clue. If you need a bit more of the song, here it is.
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So you know the song or the music? I don't know I can say it now then Well let's Yeah I know it but the game I don't know But he said he was going to give it a hint so let's hear it I'm sure that's enough of the song To know it's by the legendary Man in black Johnny Cash The song being...
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That's right. Burning Ring of Fire. Well, Ring of Fire. Okay. So what would it be? I was thinking, like, Volcano. By Johnny Cash. Now, the clue for the pinball machine, because it's very obscure and abstract, is it's related to him in a relative way. It's not him, but it's a very close relative In fact, a daughter
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Oh God, yeah I know the game I don't know the game Did I get too much of a clue? To get the point? I don't know Would you give me a point if I say it? Roadshow June Carter Cash Go ahead If it is, you get a point The answer being I knew the name and I knew the man
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I knew it was Johnny Cash Johnny Cash's daughter singing every little thing From Roadshow Now we're moving into the Even more obscure The last one's a doozy This one's only a semi-doozy You've got to know the musician and the pinball machine and the show. That's your clue. The show? He's a musician. Okay. Oh, what the... Oh, you have a clue on some of these.
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I'm just like totally like I have no idea. It's trying to go in my mind. I don't know it. But more, I know the song. I just don't know what his name is. I don't know the name of it either, so... Okay. Have you got it? See, even old farts know New East songs I know it's probably seven years old But any clues to that? Here's a bit more
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Uh, okay Yeah, I don't know it either I don't even know the game And rings true bells You might not know the pinball machine yet But you will know that was Ed Sheeran With The song being Shape of You And I hate to do it But the abstract one What TV show Has its own pinball machine That Ed Sheeran featured in
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I think it was the second last season Sitting there as a minstrel No clues? Any clues? Game of Thrones I hope someone got that one It was my obscure reference And Very obscure Not really Pretty popular artist For the lucky last Okay I know the artist I know the song Alright that's Oh god What the hell would the game be?
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What the hell would the Game I know We both know the name and you both say it. What would the game be? Oh, I know what it is. I'm thinking, I think I have the game. This is really obscure. Okay, you know, if we both think of the same obscure thing, I will scream because I also have a, okay. Okay. So you put all our guesses in? Tina Turner, right? Okay. What's Love Got to Do With It? Tina Turner, What's Love Got to Do With It?
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And for the game? What did you do? I'm saying Lethal Weapon 3 Because what's his name in it? Mad Max Oh, okay I went the same way I picked Road Kings Okay Because it's supposed to be like a Mad Max thing Okay, let's see what he did Okay, let's see So you know the artist already? Hope so For those who don't, a little bit more You must understand He's a judge of your pain And of course we have the lovely Tina Turner Franny with the sexiest legs on earth
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Singing Oh, what's love got to do Got to do with it What's love got to do with it But what pinball machine is Tina Turner associated with If you get this I think it's worth ten points You can work out your own scoring system It doesn't really matter It's just a bit of fun Anyone out there know what Tina Turner is associated with in pinball I'll give you a clue I'll play the song It probably won't help Oh You already guessed
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Yeah we're both wrong but Do we know what the second guess is? I think I know Let's hear the music and I don't know I think it's going to be from Tommy Because wasn't she the acid queen? In the movie she was the acid queen Really? But now my time has come And time, time is not on your side
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Any ideas? I don't know, because I didn't know what it sounded like, but I did know that she sung the theme to 007's Golden Eye. It's a great pinball machine with an excellent magnetic lock satellite. That was Tina Turner. So that's it for the quiz. I hope you got some of them right. Maybe you got all of them right And if you like it I'll do another one My brain works a bit differently than most people But we'll see See what you think Let me know Catch you later
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Thank you John Our brains work differently too So yeah I take more of those I was thinking along the lines of She was with You know She was the bad person in Thunderdome Yeah that's what I was thinking So I was going for like Road King You were thinking Road King Yeah I was thinking, you know, Lethal Weapon 3 because of, what's it called? Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson, yes. But she was also in Tommy, the movie, as the acid queen.
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So I was thinking, oh, okay, so he's going there. I think we totally changed his scoring system, too, halfway through the game. That's fine. But I think you definitely did win more than me. But I still had a problem with the ZZ Top legs because there's three movies that ZZ Top's in. Yeah, like he wanted a specific one. That's the thing when you're in multiples and he wants a specific one. Yeah, that's hard. And neither of us got it. But definitely, you know, Double Back was actually on. I have it right here because we were talking about it.
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Double Back was that song, and it was on Recycler. Ah, yes. And Back to the Future 3, the original movie soundtrack. Because they had, what did they have? Eliminator, After Burner, and Recycler, like in a row. Yeah, those are the top three. And it also was on Greatest Hitch, Rancho, Texcano, and Chrome Smoke and Barbecue. It's what the double back is on. Yeah, I have Chrome Smoke and Barbecue. I recommend, if you're going to get any ZZ Topping, just get that one. Because it's the original mixes.
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So you finally won something, Ron. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I won. but then I realized I gotta edit all that and it's like no I didn't win I lost you lost I lost big time I'm gonna have to I don't even know how I'm gonna do it I'm gonna have to like take little snippets out and paste paste oh god it's gonna be fucking hilarious I can't wait to hear this yeah I'm sure you can maybe I just leave it the way it is I think you just leave it the way it is If you can hear it fine I have to listen to the playback I heard it pretty good So mail ball bag
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Yes. Do we have anything in the mail ball bag? I don't know. I haven't looked. I've been busy. We had well-wishers for Bruce. Yes. Thank everyone who did comment and private message me. Everyone from Gene to Joe. Everyone else. But thank you. That was really nice. Wait, wait. Gene Simmons? Yeah, I wish. No. From San Francisco. I'll say that. But, yes, very, very nice. And, you know, really touched today, you know,
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when we were talking about it on Father's Day. Thank you, guys. You know, the best thing you could get your dad on Father's Day is a Kiss pinball machine. I already have one, Gene. Oh. If you're giving him three, though, I'll take one, definitely. No, no. we don't have anything for free here. Go to kissonline.com and you can buy your own. Okay. Soren sent an email. Hi, Ron and Bruce. A band recording music video at your pinball spot? Oh, yes.
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So, yeah, you had the video at your place. This was a video at someone's, looks like just someone's game room. Yeah. Robbie Kuma. I think I'm saying that right. Maybe I'm not. But the funny thing is, I'm looking at the games in the background, it almost does look like my basement. There's like a Lethal Weapon 3. There's a Metallica. There's a Getaway. Nothing wrong with that. It's like, did they break into my house and record a video when I was there? Maybe they did. Actually, no, this looks like a finished basement.
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Ooh. High class. I'm trying to get all the games. There's a Junkyard, an 8-Ball Deluxe, a Getaway, a High Speed, a Metallica. Wait a minute. Is that game folded up on the floor? Maybe they sit on it later on. It looks like a mouse-in, actually. And I'll send around Lethal Weapon 3, a Jurassic Park, so obviously a newer video. Thank you, Soren. Thank you, sir. And then we have from Parnell.
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He sent an email subject to Stern Dracula. Blah. It was a Pinside ad for Hurt Dracula, $250. Yeah, I'm still talking with the guy about that. Oh, so you, okay. No, I was second on the list. Oh, you were second on the list. You weren't fast enough. Now, how long ago was that email? That email was from June 4th. Yeah. The guy still has not picked up the game, the first guy.
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So I keep on emailing the guy. Everybody's like, hey, the guy picking up. So I messaged him yesterday, and he goes, yep, the guy's coming. Hold on. He's like, the guy pick it up? He's like, nope, tomorrow he's going to be picking it up, which was yesterday. So hopefully today, if he doesn't pick it up, I said, if he flakes, I'm rolling the grab. Yeah, just for the spare parts. Of course. But the mouse and around, there was a mouse and around for sale in Middletown this past day or two from Pennside. And I saw it, and I was ready to go jump on it, and I was like, nah, it was pretty rough.
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for what they wanted for it. There was a Radical, too, that was on Pinside. I really didn't see that. Yeah, it wasn't there very long, and it was quite expensive. Of course. Like $38-something. That's actually cheap for a Radical. Well, yeah, exactly. And, yeah, so when I went to look at it, it was already gone. $4,800 is the only one that's on there right now. And that's in St. Louis, where Bess felt for it. Oh, my God. He has it powder-coated. It's ugly.
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Not a fan? No, not bad. That's just really bad. Is his fan his clown colors or no? I have one. Would you or would you not buy that? Oh, man. We are packing it in. We are. We are the best damn podcast out there. We even talked about pinball. Thank God. And it's going to be pinball, too. Oh, my God. Okay, so this is our segment. Would you or would you not buy that? We go to eBay, look at some of these games, and say, would we or would we not buy that?
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Are you ready? Ready. Get number 133340612974. Wow. It's free shipping, though. It's free shipping. It's a Stern Pinball authorized seller. Wow, he's taking that to the extreme. He's taking that to the true extreme. Yeah, this is a Quicksilver for $10,499. Buy it now.
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It can be yours. And like I said, he's an official Stern seller. And there's 13 people watching this fucking thing. Yes. They're probably in like awe, like what the fuck? 100% positive feedback with over 3,000 things sold. So you will probably get your game. So let's go over the problems with this machine. Oh, God. Okay. So let me look at the – okay. So for that kind of money, we are going to criticize pretty much everything, right? Yes.
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Okay. So Coindor is missing the Stern sticker logo. The apron – No, no. And Stern sticker. Oh, it's missing the start button sticker also. Wrong legs. The apron is wrong. The apron is for – actually, I think it's for an alley. Yes, it is. It's not the green. It's not the correct green. Let's look at the pictures here. Back glass. These spinners are wrong because they should be green.
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The, well, actually, mine are red. Well, the cabinet has all kinds of gouges and scrapes and shit in it. I mean, this is a $10,000 game. This should be, like... I painted it wrong on the top side, the top right-hand side. Actually, there's a black thick band. Amazingly, the flipper bats are right. I could have swore that would have been wrong. Yeah. Let's see. Mylar, circles. No, so if you look at the spinners, one is red and one is green. Okay. One is right, one is wrong.
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Okay. Playfield looks decent. Not bad, but not a $10,000 game bad. Good, I mean. Yeah, I mean, the penises look okay. Exactly. Yeah, but $10,000? How does it end up with the wrong apron? I don't even understand that. This is like the second, that whitewood one that really wasn't a whitewood. It was just like the paint was removed. That also had the same apron. Yeah, but definitely not.
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Well, let's see. What does the description say? Quicksilver Rare Pinball Machine by Stern, 1980. Fully serviced. Game is completely gone through by Orange County Pinballs, a full-service pinball shop. Oh, I think we did some of their games. We've done with these, yeah, and these guys have, these are the ones that had sold the used game with no, remember, no bottom on it. Game goes through a rigorous refurbishment process and service checklist by professional pinball technicians to make sure it is 100% fully operational and looks great.
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This looks okay. All electronic boards are inspected, service repaired, and any burr connectors replaced, but since there were no pictures inside the back box, I can't verify that. Views are checked and correct fuse values installed. Cabinet vacuumed. Outside of cabinet cleaned and inspected for any issues. Luckily, we got new leg levelers. Mm-hmm. Wow. A new sheet of tempered glass. Locks with keys for full access to the machine.
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You know, I hate it when I get a game, You know, I got one from Stern once, my brand-new Star Trek, and it didn't have the keys or anything. They told me that was extra. Oh, my God. So, yeah, and it's in California, so if you really wanted this, like, here, you really end up getting hammered with shipping. Hey, but you said, how many people are watching this? 13. Exactly. If you have the money. I just love the Stern pinball authorized seller checkbox.
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Here we go. Oh, you have another one? Yes, I do. Oh, God. What do you got? Ticket number 254565581480. Okay. Quistilver, pinball machine, vintage, Stern Electronics, rare, stargazer. Why is this stargazer? I have no idea why they say that. It's by They Want FX. Again, 100% positive feedback with 318 items.
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So this is, oh, it's pickup only. Yeah. It's in Canada. So is this Canadian price? No, it's U.S. price. So it has the right legs. All right, let's look at the picture. Yes, we have the right legs. Wrong bolts. Wrong leg bolts. No sticker. Wrong apron again. Maybe it's not wrong. Maybe we got lucky and we got one of the few Quicksilvers with the right apron or something. Because usually the apron is like the greenest. It's like the same.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's supposed to be greenish. I agree. Yeah. I mean, that's what I thought it was. But I'm seeing so many of these with this now. It was stern. It's totally stern like that they would have just used apron for another game. Good. Yeah. Wrong spinners. Wrong complete spinners. Wrong drop targets. Hold on. I'm still trying to get to pictures that show that. Okay, here we go. So, oh, God, yeah. It's got, like, these sparkly spinners. And it's got sparkly drop targets also. Uh, yeah. On one, at least.
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Mm-hmm. The inside looks clean. Yeah, looks good. Playfield looks good. I mean, it's definitely more of a bargain than the other one. Yeah, they even show boards. Oh, my God, they show the boards. And the original. Original back glass, which does have wear. You can see that. But this show underneath the play field, too. I'm already giving them more kudos here. Okay. $7,500. It can be yours. How many people are watching this one? Give me two seconds.
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Six. Six watchers. Oh, six watchers. Come on, watchers. You need to be watching this one. No, I can pick this one up. This is Montreal. It's probably one of the closer places in Canada to me. Four hours for you. Three to four hours would be. better deal. Wait a minute, we'll ship, even though it says pickup only, if you scroll down, it says we'll ship via Fastenal? Fastenal. Yeah, I figured you would know it. From Plattsburgh, New York. Or Dane Ross from Montreal, Quebec.
96:01
Interesting. Oh, LED upgrade. With a Flickr Eliminator kit. Which I didn't see on there. Some minor wear on playfield cabinet and back glass. Well, there you go. That's $7,500. So two Quicksilvers on eBay. Would we buy either of those? No. The thing is, the missing stickers, you can get those. Yeah, of course. We're just being picky. But the spinners are hard to come by. Yeah.
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Yeah, one time in Allentown, I think Mayfair had some. Yeah. I scoffed them up. Yeah, I did. And I needed to use one of them because one of them... When I shopped out the Sea Witch, the spinner was broken. How is that possible? That thing's never hit. It's like the least hit spinner ever. That's the hardest spinner because that's actually a custom spinner. The Sea Witch one is almost as rare as the nine ball one. The nine ball is the rarest spinner of all time.
97:03
Yeah, the nine ball one is just, yes. That's the rarest spinner of all time. If you ever find a nine-ball spinner, covet it, grab it, and then reproduce it. Yes, please reproduce it. And then you'll make tons of money. So those are the two machines I would say we do not want to buy. But if you're going to buy one, I'd buy the second one. You'd buy the second one. Okay, I'm about to say. It's kind of, being we already have Quicksilver, it's kind of unfair. You have a more complete one than I do. Yours is Australian, though.
97:33
My playfield's sitting on the side of the garage. My cabinet's up on its back again. It's just like all over the place scattered. So that's, would we not buy that? Yes. All right. Anything else, sir? Did you want to do a quick repair list? Just, yeah, I'm working. I put Cheetah in the bar, and the first day, the right slingshot doesn't work
98:04
okay so I'm looking at all this stuff I've got continuity to the wires it fires in solenoid test doesn't fire with the switch so I'm like what the fuck's going on found the broken diode so I gotta fix that that's my fun so far I've been working on this stuff a couple switches adjustments that kind of stuff because I'm moving the games in and out of the bar I got hold on I got to move my bowler tomorrow. The ball bowler.
98:34
Ooh, the ball bowler. I'm going to do a K-turn in the bar with it. A what? Spinning it 180 degrees. So I have to actually literally do a K-turn. Like when you're going down the road and you go make a K-turn, that's what I'm going to do with the bowler. I'm going to put him on sliders. K-turn. Do you mean a three-point turn? Yes. Okay. I've never heard that term. Is that a New Jersey thing? I call it a K-turn. Or is it just another one of those terms that I don't know and everyone else will know? Maybe.
99:05
Okay. Let's see what it says on my turn. York City K-turn road test. K-turn driving. K-turn video. K-turn steps. K-turn three-point turn dimensions. Probably you didn't know it. It's called a Y-turn, a K-turn, or a broken U-turn. When the vehicle turns around, limit its base using forward and reverse gear. I call it a three-point turn. Yeah, they call it a three-point turn also, or broken your turn. Mm-hmm. So, yep, I call it a K.
99:35
I think we have our title. K-turn. There you go. Is it K space turn or K dash turn? K dash turn. Okay. So if people look at the title like, what the hell does that mean? Then I'll know I'm right. Yes. So, yeah, I've got to move the bowler 180 degrees so I can actually put the – I'm actually going to put the hockey machine downstairs in front of the bathrooms, and the bowler will be further down, closer to the back stairs. And that's at what location again?
100:07
That's the Silver Wall Saloon, 135 West Commercial Street in East Rochester, New York. Come see Ron in July. Give him all the hugs you can. No, no, no. COVID is, no, COVID, Bruce. Okay. Okay, Ron's going to have to wear a plastic bodysuit. Then we can hug him all you want. I'll have a hazmat suit ready for you, Ron. Ventilator and everything. Oh, I miss you, brother.
100:38
Woo! I miss my voice. Yeah, I know. See, it's back. It's back. Hey, it's back, Bruce. Are you going to go see Dad today? Well, I wish him a happy birthday. He's probably going to be hanging out with his girlfriend, I'm assuming. Oh, my. Yeah. I'm going to message him right now. Oh, daddy. Wow. That's right. See, you're going through probably what I go through every Mother's Day now.
101:10
Yeah. I just avoid Facebook. Like, I can't read any more of these. It's the same thing, everything. Happy Mother's Day. I'm bummed I don't get to play any of these games. That's what sucks. You know what I mean? I want to play Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'm probably not going to play this here. Hot Wheels. Well, Hot Wheels, the only chance I get to play it is probably at a show. Yeah. Because I don't know anyone local who would ever buy one. Yeah. So I'm kind of screwed. And then when Guns N' Roses comes out.
101:40
You're really screwed. Yeah. When do you think that's coming out, Bruce? I hear different people saying different things. Some people say it's eminent. Others say, no, it's going to be a while. I think it's going to be a while. Because I don't think the factory is ready for them. But I think it's probably going to be expo time, if expo goes off. But it will be around that time. I'm still waiting on Deep Root. Oh, Jesus, I almost forgot about them. Well, I know, that's what I'm saying. It's been since March. It's now June. There's been, yeah, two other companies that have done reveals.
102:14
There's been, what, three other reveals? You had Heavy Metal, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Hot Wheels. Actually, any one of those. The Multimorphic. The heist. So you've had four different games revealed. Yep. And still waiting. And still waiting on their 20 or 30 that they'll be making. 20 or 30 games. Jesus. Yeah, give us some product, man. I don't know. Maybe you'll sell something. Hey. I mean, yeah. The Hallmark gets ready for you, I think.
102:46
I think the homebuyers are still buying. And when I see things like Topper selling out instantly, I mean, there are some people still spending money. Must be nice. I really want to play Turtles. It looks so good. So somebody in the area must drop off a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to Ron for a couple days. Yep, I'll take a pro. And he'll stream it for you, too. Yeah, we'll stream it. I have top streaming facilities here. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
103:17
It's in my head now, even though I never... I think when that debuted, I was like 13, so I could have watched it. But I just... No, I didn't. I don't even remember it. That's the thing. I don't even remember it. I remember my sister watching it because she was a lot younger than me. Ah. I used to hear her singing it. I was like, oh, my God. I just walk out the house. Ah, so he has bad childhood memories of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah. They're not heroes in a half shell to him. He's going to crack their shell. All right, so this has been episode 147.
103:55
Thanks, everybody. We are the Slam Tilt Podcast. Check out our website at slamtiltpodcast.com. Upper right-hand corner, all our links are there. You can subscribe to us with our RSS feed. You can check out our YouTube channel, our Twitch channel, our Instagram, which I need to start posting more on, our Facebook. Yeah, you did, but I'm not getting any Instagram feeds from you at all. I was very, very bad of you. Well, I used to do the Instagram thing whenever I went to a show, and I'd take pictures of all the show and post it to our Instagram,
104:27
but I haven't been to any shows. Why haven't you been to any shows? Why are you slacking off lately? I mean, what am I supposed to take pictures of? Here's some of my game room again. I mean, come on. Different angles of your game room. Different angles. Yeah, Stern, I sent you a picture, you know, for game room of the week or whatever, and still nothing. Hello? I have a row of freaking sterns. You guys post pictures that will have one stern. I don't believe William. I have all sterns in a row, and I don't... Come on.
104:57
I know. Boo. You fuckers. Maybe because we just criticize them. Yeah, we're not part of the industry. We're outsiders. Yeah. That's our gimmick. Or whatever. We're the few that haven't been hired by a company yet. That could change, though. I would still gladly do voice work for any pinball company. I can get a game. I don't even need a game. I don't care. I just want voice work. I still wonder this day, I feel that the Haggis guys,
105:28
they were going to have the big reveal and all that. Not reveal, like everyone saw, but they were going to be at Texas. And he told me, come over to our booth. We put something in the game for us. Remember that? I'm never going to get to know what that was. Nope. You're fucked. Well, guys, I guess it looks like I'm going to have to go to Australia. There you go. That's going to be it. That's it. I'm going to see you in Australia. I don't know when, but I'll have to go eventually. You sure? Yeah.
105:58
I do want to go to Australia. Oh, I'd love to. To go to Australia with a boom box and play some network. You cannot be in a plane that long, though. I would have a problem, yeah. Yes, you would. Your back would be so fucked up. Yeah, I would need to lay down. I need a bed. I need, like, some of those old films, like, from the 50s, when they would have the transcontinental flights or the flights over the ocean, and it would be a bigger plane, but there would only be, like, 10 or 20 people in it, and it would all have, like, beds and stuff. You ever see those?
106:29
Like, yeah. Oh, yeah, the old Pan Ams. Yeah. There you go. Or you need to go first class. That's what we do. Even that, though, I've seen. It's not like, I need to lie down. Yeah, there are lie-down beds, the fancy, like, Qantas and that kind of stuff. Ah. So what you're saying is I need to be rich. Yes. So luckily we know a doctor in Australia who's rich. Dr. John is rich. Hey, Dr. John, give me some first class tips. Okay. But the thing is, if we go down there, we get quarantined for 14 days right off the bat.
107:02
Oh, God. Be quarantined with you for 14 days? Oh, my goodness. It'd be easy. Again, we are the Slamtail Podcast. you can contact us at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com and you can do your spiel all our friends of the show hi Zach hi Jeff Teolis hi Ryan C and Marty hi Zach, hi Steve hi lovely ladies of
107:34
Riptide, which have they had another new one come out or no? no, we need to get them back on I'd like to see them get back on everyone else, Zach Many you just hear me, I know you do Dennis, hi Dennis we always like you guys other than that it's another day in pinball land and hopefully we're getting through some of these areas are getting through COVID we had our lowest death number thank God in New York State that sounds just so weird, we had our lowest death number let's party
108:05
well the thing is at one point we had 900 people dying a day from COVID. We're now down to 29 people. We're now from the worst to the best. Yeah, we went from worst to first and Florida is now the twilight spot. And Arizona, Oregon. Well, Oregon. You mean Oregon? Oregon. Oh, jeez. Okay. Did you see the pictures from Nashville, Tennessee? Somebody bars? They're like over capacity.
108:37
They're actually like flooded with people butted up against each other. The whole bar. Man, they want to drink that bad. Yeah. And they lost their liquor licenses now. Not worth it, people. Not worth it. Don't be stupid. Be safe. Be safe out there. So we can all play pinball together sometime next year, because it's going to be at least that long. It's okay. You can be patient. Patience is a good thing. Maybe next time we'll talk about IFPA points slowly whittling away. There is no IFPA this year.
109:08
I know what I'm saying. All the points are whittling away. Yeah, they're whittling, decaying away. Does that mean I'll lose my discount or whatever? Well, usually everyone does whittle away also, but let's see where you're ranked. Yeah, I might want to use my IFPA discount this year for a game. Who knows? I don't want to lose that. No, you would not. You are ranked 344th in the world. Oh, I'd have to drop 600-something spots, so hopefully I'm okay. Let's see where this jerk-off is. Jerk-off? Oh, you. Okay.
109:38
I am 847th. Whoa. Which is so, you know, the rankings. Bruce is a better player than me, folks. And his ranking is like 500. Because I don't get to go to shows. Exactly. That's the problem. Because I don't think they're going to have any. The IPA was supposed to have something in November in Florida. I just don't see that happening. Yeah. I don't see any. I think they'll move it to New York. Just so they're safer. Who would have thought you'd hear that? Move it to upstate New York. It's super safe. here, guys. It's super safe.
110:08
But, yeah, until there's a vaccine, I just don't see it. Unless you're going to have people sitting next to the machine, wiping them off between each ball or something. It's going to be interesting. Could you imagine that? They're wiping off the game, it hits a flipper button, it launches something. Oh, shit! Can I get a ruling? So, yep, hopefully we'll all make it for another year in the under a thousand. I still have my This year's one, though, if I wanted to use this year's.
110:39
We're going to make it through COVID, and then I'll have Stu saying, we made it through the rain by Barry Malin. It'll be great. Excellent. That's a promise, folks. That will happen. When there's a vaccine, Stu will sing, I made it through the rain. I'm just waiting for Pinball League to get back started and everything else. I have people asking at the bar, like, hey, when are we going to do Thursday night? You know. Yeah. Pinball tournaments again. Pinball hangouts again. I'm in the league. I mean, it's the Zoom League. Yeah.
111:09
Ah! Okay. Bye, folks. Until next time, this has been the Slamto Podcast. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Denny Powell. Can't do me if you try. Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my.
111:42
Can't keep me alive. Oh my.
112:34
There we go. My throat is now well lubricated. Oh. Yes. I swear I just say lines just because I know. You know it's going to be fed right to my baseball bat fucking mind and go. Your baseball bat mind? No, you're hitting it like a baseball bat. No, it's big and woody. We should do these more often
113:05
No, I'm just kidding We should No, no, not too much today Alright