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Episode 16 – Back In The Groove

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Oct 27, 2016
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TL;DR

Jersey Jack price tiers, Stern Kickstarter criticism, tournament recaps, and community highlights.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss Jersey Jack's announcement of a standard edition for their new game (previously called 'Dialed In', now renamed) at $8,000, criticize Stern's $50,000 Kickstarter for a coffee table book despite their market dominance, and share tournament experiences and community interactions from recent pinball events.

Key Claims

  • Jersey Jack announced three pricing tiers for their upcoming game: LE, CE (Collector's Edition), and new Standard Edition at $8,000

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Jersey Jack's announcement on Buffalo Pinball Podcast

  • The Standard Edition lacks Invisiglass, armor, and lighted ramps compared to LE/CE versions

    high confidence · Ron describing differences based on Jersey Jack's published matrix

  • Jersey Jack is renaming their game; the new name will still incorporate 'Dialed In'

    medium confidence · Ron mentions name change announcement but admits uncertainty about final name format

  • Stern sold 80 Batman Super Limited Edition machines

    high confidence · Ron citing specific sales figures during Stern discussion

  • Jody Dankenberg (Stern marketing) claimed Stern has 99% of the pinball industry market share

    medium confidence · Ron referencing claim that was mathematically debunked

  • George Gomez stated on camera that 'Lyman's not going to let you play the game yet' at Batman 66 Stern Expo unveiling

    high confidence · Ron verified the quote by re-watching YouTube video at 10-minute mark

  • Stern is running a $50,000 Kickstarter for a coffee table book about Stern Pinball

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Kickstarter campaign

  • Bruce finished 11th or 12th out of ~40-50 players at Pintoberfest 4 tournament in Pelham, New Hampshire

    high confidence · Bruce recounting his tournament results

Notable Quotes

  • “I just think if you have a game where, I mean, even if it's a disaster SimCity theme, when the main toy you see is the cell phone, dialed in makes sense. It's like, oh, I get it, dialed in is a phone, okay.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~17:00 — Ron's perspective on why the 'Dialed In' name made sense thematically, and his disappointment with the rename

  • “You want to make your own company? Put your own money up. You want to make a book? Put your own money up... This is America. Put your goddamn money up and take a chance.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~35:00 — Strong criticism of Stern's Kickstarter strategy; reflects broader frustration with established company seeking crowdfunding

  • “Freaking monopoly. I swear to God. Yes, it is monopoly. Literally.”

    Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale (in agreement) @ ~36:00 — Characterization of Stern's market dominance as anticompetitive

  • “Hobbit sucks. Hobbit's a fucking turd. Nothing changed my mind there.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~65:00 — Strong negative assessment of The Hobbit pinball machine's quality and playability

  • “after playing dialed in which is the same damn hardware and then playing this thing i it's hard to believe they're the same freaking manufacturer almost”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~68:00 — Comparison highlighting quality gap between Jersey Jack's 'Dialed In' and Stern's The Hobbit despite similar hardware base

  • “I think they're listening to the wrong people lately, and I hope they get their heads out of their ass and remember that they are a company. It's a small niche group of people in this hobby, and now more than ever, there's limited money.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~43:00 — Broader critique of Stern's business approach and market awareness

  • “I had a whopping seven points. Fail. Fail, fail.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~54:00 — Self-deprecating commentary on poor tournament performance in head-to-head round

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyJack DangerpersonPat LawlorpersonSteve BowdenpersonKevin and Nickperson

Signals

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack introducing three-tier pricing model (LE, CE, Standard at $8,000) with feature differentiation; hosts debate optimal price point effectiveness

    high · Ron and Bruce extensively discuss the three tiers, with Ron suggesting $7,500 or $7,000 would have been more effective psychological price point than $8,000

  • ?

    product_strategy: Jersey Jack renaming game from 'Dialed In' to something else while keeping 'Dialed In' as component; hosts express disagreement with decision

    medium · Ron states name change was announced alongside pricing; mentions confusion about format (e.g., 'Quantum City: Dialed In'); notes original name was growing on him

  • $

    market_signal: Stern running $50,000 Kickstarter for coffee table book despite claimed 99% market dominance; significant community backlash and perception as 'cash grab'

    high · Ron calculates that 80 Batman Super LE sales at ~$15K each = $1.2M+ in revenue, making $50K Kickstarter request seem excessive; hosts characterize it as monopolistic behavior

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Negative sentiment shift regarding Stern's business practices and community engagement; multiple community members reported bad taste from recent expo

    high · Ron notes 'people had a bad taste about this past expo' and 'mostly from the Stern side'; he states 'They're not putting their best foot forward anymore'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Tension between Stern and other manufacturers (particularly Jersey Jack); concerns about favoritism and retaliation in tournament/community participation

Transcript

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0:00
Oh. Oh, dear. Children, tell me when your father stopped scratching himself. Kids? We'll tell you, Mom.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Hey, hello. And welcome to episode 16, Star Trek First Contact.
0:48
Biggest show number one with a number two on my face. Oh, what a classy way to start the show off. Of course. Tripping with class, yes. Yes. First Contact, which I believe was the last, well, the last Next Generation movie. I only watched the first two. Weren't there like four for the Next Generation? Oh, God. Why? Oh, it's good. No, no. Anytime you have, you know, Patrick Stewart, it's great.
1:20
Yeah, even he was getting tired of the role by then. So, what's up? Not much, guys. How is everyone doing out there in pinball land? We promise this would be a short third podcast. No two-hour marathon here. Yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see. Oh, okay. Do you have like three pages of notes we're going to go through? Two. Oh, good gravy. Good gravy is me. Good gravy. All right. Let's go to the news right off the bat, I think, right? or do you want to talk first about something else?
1:58
Well, I'll make one quick correction. Not that anyone would have noticed this. When we were talking about Black Knight and the last chance and the fact you can't lock balls after you get last chance, and Bruce was very adamant that you can, I listened back to it, and Bruce was actually talking about Black Knight 2000. Which I said. Yeah, which he said, which I took to be Black Knight, for whatever reason. I actually said Black Knight also, but there was some confusion there. So just to reiterate, in Black Knight, you cannot lock balls after getting last chance.

“So I'm like, okay, none of this multi-ball bullshit, none of this ridiculous rule set bullshit, no lock stealing bullshit. We're going to Harlem Globetrotters.”

Bruce Nightingale @ ~57:00 — Bruce's game selection strategy reflecting preference for skill-based games over luck-dependent mechanics

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high · Martin banned from Stern party and Stern Tour; Bruce worried Steve Bowden might face retaliation for Jersey Jack affiliation; discussion of 'gamesmanship bullshit' at expo

  • ?

    product_concern: The Hobbit machine exhibiting significant playability issues ('floaty' flipper response, orbit inconsistency) despite similar hardware to higher-quality Jersey Jack machine

    high · Bruce: 'after playing dialed in which is the same damn hardware and then playing this thing i it's hard to believe they're the same freaking manufacturer'; describes multiple failed orbit hits due to flipper response

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Tournament players frustrated with games in non-tournament mode featuring excessive randomness and multiball; preference for skill-based games like Harlem Globetrotters

    medium · Bruce criticizes Pintoberfest setup for not using tournament mode, creating luck-dependent outcomes; deliberate picks Harlem Globetrotters to avoid 'multiball bullshit'

  • ?

    community_signal: Atlanta Pinball League provides welcoming community experience with diverse game collection; listeners engaging with podcast content at tournaments

    high · Bruce met 18-20 players, received pizza, community invited them to California; multiple listeners mentioned listening to podcast en route to tournaments

  • ?

    event_signal: Multiple tournaments ongoing/upcoming: Pintoberfest 4 (completed), Sanctum (mentioned as one year anniversary), Central New York league, Binghamton tournament, future Amsterdam event

    high · Bruce provides detailed Pintoberfest 4 recap with results; Ron mentions upcoming tournaments and coordination with wife's schedule

  • ?

    business_signal: Hosts note 'limited money' in pinball hobby and question Stern's ability to repeatedly find buyers at premium price points despite strong sales of Batman Super LE

    medium · Ron discusses whether 80 Super LE sales indicate deep market demand or indicates market saturation concern; questions how many times wells can be hit

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Concern that Stern's Kickstarter book will require IP licensing fees for many games (heavily licensed catalog); licensing constraints limiting book scope and value

    medium · Ron notes 'everything is freaking licensed' and questions what art can be included; suggests Williams coffee table book would be more valuable due to less licensing burden

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Implied quality control differences between manufacturers; Jersey Jack 'Dialed In' praised for consistent playability while Stern's Hobbit exhibits widespread issues

    medium · Bruce's comparison between same hardware platforms; Carl D'Angelo's Hobbit videos suggest machine variations; location operator Sarah charging premium tokens reflects showcase status

    • 2:37
    And according to Keith Johnson, this is a bug. I can buy that one. Very cool. And I think that's it. So let's go right to news of the week. Go for it. Well, you've got to say your line.
    2:54
    All the news. All the news that's fit to print? You got it. You've got to keep traditions up. We never said that before.
    3:01
    You've said it many times. I just keep trying to keep up with traditions. Yes, you have. Many times.
    3:07
    Many, many fine things at the Academy. Wesley, get out of here. Okay. You're going to hear my card all day today. First thing. Go ahead. What were you going to say? I thought it was Police Academy. I thought it was Captain Lessard or whatever. Both.
    3:24
    Captain Lessard and also you have Wesley in that same comment when he was getting sent to the Academy. Shut up, Wesley. Wesley, get on with the news. Make it so, number one. With a number two.
    3:38
    News. Jersey Jack made a great announcement this past Saturday on the Buffalo Pinball Podcast with Kevin and Nick.
    3:46
    And Steve Bowden. Hi, Steve. fun with bonus and the news was you were right again well i didn't know anything about it but knowing jack's past history there was going to be three games i didn't know he was going to put it out the same week which uh one of our great listeners sean o'Shea pointed out right off the bat look bruce is right there's a third option for jersey jack which is going to be now a standard edition for $8,000. Which I think I did mention. I did mention that on Pinside, I think it was Pinball Star, their distributor, was mentioning something like there was going to be an announcement.
    4:27
    I don't remember if that's something we did on the podcast or something later. It's all a blur to me. You did mention a little thing about it, but yes. How much is this again? $8,000 instead of $9,000.
    4:41
    They published a Matrix. matrices, if you will. So what is the difference between the LE and the standard? What are you missing out on? No Invisiglass.
    4:56
    Right off the bat. No armor. It will be I think silver. It will be stainless steel. What else? I didn't have the... Do you have it in front of you?
    5:08
    No. Basically, it was It was pretty much blank. Like, even the standard has a shaker motor. Yes. Like, that was, so it was Invisiglass, the armor.
    5:19
    The other main thing was the LE and the, whatever, not Super LE, what do they call it? LE and the CE. Collector's Edition. Yeah, Collector's Edition have lighted ramps.
    5:33
    Ooh, I tried to forget about that. So, what does that mean? Is there, I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. I don't have a picture of it in front of me. Is it just like tracking lights on the ramps? Does that mean they go away? Is that the deal? I don't know. I didn't play it. You are the only one out of the two of us who's played it. Yeah, but there was the broadcast. Didn't you see the broadcast? A little bit, I did. Didn't you check out our own YouTube channel? I did, but I've had a rough week at school. Oh, there you go. Yes, Bruce is for, what, nine straight days is still in training. I'm still in Atlanta. It is Police Academy. He's breaking training right now. Yes, I am. Many, many fine, fine people at the Academy. But Kevin and Nick had a three hour podcast and they talked to they talked to Jersey Jack. They had food delivery. They had Steve Bowden playing and talking about the game. They also had Pat Lawler calling. I'll have to watch the whole thing. I only I watched like the first five minutes. And why didn't you watch the whole thing? I just want to I'll catch it later It's okay I did play the game you know I did not but So but it looked pretty good They were trying to catch They were trying to hit a spider a lot I remember that And then they were trying to get tickets So I like the game Looks pretty cool as I said The difference between $8,000 and $9,000 It's you know It's a little difference I think you would have hit more of a home run if you went 7,500, even 7,000. Yeah, 7,500, I think. Just put the seven in front of it would have been like, yeah, okay. Yeah, I can see that now. Or 7,750. You know, that number. You hit 8,000, you're like, ugh, 8,000. If you got into the sevens, I think it would have been a great motivator for more people. But what's the difference between eight and nine? $1,000? Yeah. To my disappointment, though, there was also another announcement he made. Which was? There's going to be a name change. Yeah, I don't agree with that either. I liked it, but then it was something like it still will have dialed in in it. So what's it going to be? Is it going to be like Quantum City colon dialed in or something?
    7:48
    I don't know. I think they're just trying to cater to many people. I think they should have stuck with it. Yeah, you know, there is listening to your customers, and then sometimes you just got to like just no. I could see catering with the model, the standard edition, but did that many people just hate the name? I don't know. Maybe I'm just not paying attention enough. Maybe it was just that hated. Maybe they actually heard a bad backlash. Who knows? I don't know. Me, myself, I didn't mind the title. It actually was growing on me even more and more.
    8:27
    The gameplay overshadows the title. I just think if you have a game where, I mean, even if it's a disaster SimCity theme, when the main toy you see is the cell phone, dialed in makes sense. It's like, oh, I get it, dialed in is a phone, okay. And one of your main gimmicks is the whole pairing it with a cell phone.
    8:47
    So I don't know. I don't know either, but to me, you know. I know one of the other names that was batted around originally was Killer App.
    8:57
    Yeah. Second thing is there's a Kickstarter going off right now for a coffee table book about coffee tables. No, sorry, about Stern Pinball, and they want $50,000 of our money. Now, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, okay, yeah. Yeah, I saw this. They had Ed Robertson do a thing for the Kickstarter. I see Steve Ritchie doing a thing for the Kickstarter. Let me get this straight here. after spending probably, now I'm thinking about it, the games I have, tens of thousands of dollars of my money on their shit and going to their party. It sucked. Yep, that sucked. Now you want more money to do a book. Yep. I mean, those 80, 80 fucking Batman super LEs that you sold are not enough to cover this book. uh i just uh hold on let me get you know my math skills let's see let's see fifteen thousand dollars times 80 that is 1.2 million dollars now they couldn't take fifty thousand dollars and try to make a a book out of this guess what i'm sick of the kickstarters sorry i really am it's bs
    10:21
    You want to make your own company? Put your own money up. You want to make a book? Put your own money up. Well, even – at least if you're a new company, I could see it more or some new thing. The fact that you're an established company and by your admission own 90% of the pinball or whatever it is, the fact that you would – 98, you know. Yeah, still do a kickstart, which there was someone who did awesome math on that. I think Jody Dankenberg, I think is his name, their main marketing guy, said something like they have 99% of the industry.
    10:54
    But if you did the math, that would mean just by the pure volume that all the other manufacturers will do a total of 20 games per year, which obviously is ridiculous. It's totally wrong, yes. And he did it the other way. Like, okay, say the other manufacturers do like 100 or 1,000. That means Stern would do like 200,000 games or something. It was some pretty cool math. Yes. But yeah, it just seems like another cash grab. It really does. Guess what? I started my company. I had to put my money in. My father put his money in. We put it together, and we don't make a ton of money. Don't get me wrong. We're not like, woohoo, I'm rolling in it. No, it's just a fun thing we do. But we still put our own money. I didn't go, hey, I want to have this great idea, and I want you guys to pay for it, And I'll give it to you for a little cheaper. Sorry. This is America.
    11:48
    Put your goddamn money up and take a chance. You don't want to make a book about the thing? Don't make a book. You don't have the money for it? Find investors. I don't want to be your investor.
    12:01
    Cash grab. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Freaking monopoly. I swear to God. Yes, it is monopoly. Literally. But it was just like, really? But really, when I saw that and all these people, they're trying to hook up and trying to do it, guess what? I'd actually rather have a company make a Williams pinball book about it because guess what? They're not in business anymore. They've been out of business for 15, almost 20 years now. It would be a little more interesting saying, look at all the beautiful art. Find some – Stern?
    12:38
    Yeah, I don't know where they're going to show the beautiful art. all the beautiful art is going to be like the last four or five years they've used hand drawn art everything else is just going to be photoshopped faces on playfields there's a couple but not many depends how far back they go yeah they should go back to like data east okay then that's different or even early stern you know with monopoly and that kind of stuff you had some nice artwork like monopoly but other ones like austin powers yeah that's another thing if they're doing a coffee table Well, what kind of art are they going to put in there? Because aren't they going to have to pay rights fees? Because everything is freaking licensed. You would think. Yeah. Maybe that's why they need the $50,000. But we have to fit the bill. Yeah, and which is ridiculous. Sorry, guys. Tapping out again. Yeah.
    13:29
    We talked about this last week, the whole Jersey Jack, Stern, the back and forth thing. Martin from Pinball News getting banned from the party and from the Stern Tour. I hope poor Steve Bowden doesn't get banned from something. Yeah. Because he's obviously, you know, he's almost seen now as like, I see him as like the Jersey Jack representative.
    13:51
    He's wearing the Jersey Jack hat. He's always at the Jersey Jack factory, at least seemingly, you know, with the footage. I hope like Stern doesn't like, I don't know, you can't play in this tournament now because you're Jersey Jack like Steve Bowden from Sturnament. I don't think they'll get that far. Who knows? All the gamesmanship bullshit that went on at this expo. I know. It's just very disconcerting. I think they're listening to the wrong people lately, and I hope they get their heads out of their ass and remember that they are a company. It's a small niche group of people in this hobby,
    14:29
    and now more than ever, there's limited money. as we've brought up a couple times before. You know, people get a bad taste in you. I was talking to some people this week. A lot of them had a bad taste about this past expo, and mostly from the Stern side. Not all of it, but most of it.
    14:51
    They're not putting their best foot forward anymore. Well, speaking of the Stern thing, if you go on YouTube, and our listeners can do this, So if you go up on YouTube and look for Batman 66 Stern Expo, I think,
    15:09
    it's around, it's like a, I don't know, 12-minute video. It's the one where George Gomez is actually up there unveiling the Super Ellie. And about, if you start at the 10-minute mark, you will hear literally verbatim what I said, just to know that I wasn't pulling the comments out of my ass, where he says that Lyman's not going to let you play the game yet. He literally said that. And I listened to it back like, okay, I didn't hear that wrong. So there you go. They're not listening to the right people, and they're marketing people, and maybe they just think they're – I don't know. We say this, but they sold 80 Super LEs. Guess what? But as I said before, they've proven that they found 80 fucking suckers. Yeah, but if they can find 80 suckers every Kapow release, that's all they need. Then you have a lot. Then there is more money in this hobby than I thought. And maybe there is.
    16:11
    But everything is not proceeding as you had foreseen. No, it's not. Although that's Star Wars. I'm sorry. But the thing is, you know, you're not going to hit the well so many times. Like the titles that Kapow brought up, some of them interest me actually.
    16:30
    You know. Did you have that in front of you? I had – it was Young Frankenstein, Willy Wonka, and the Chocolate Factory. Young Frankenstein was actually one of them? Yes. Really? Okay. Yeah. So, you know, Mel Brooks, Willy Wonka, Blazing Saddles. There was two others. I have to look on Oren Day's post. Okay, wait a minute. So they have two Mel Brooks and no Spaceballs no Spaceballs that would be the one I would think above all just because it more recent and you would get more I don know I think you would get more interest in that Yes, I agree too. Especially if Mel Brooks' plans come through where they want to make another one. Boy, that'd be great. That's not happening. Trust me. Three Stooges, that was another one I think. Yes, Three Stooges, yes. So, you know, they had a couple, but I'm not going to spend that much money on a game. Sorry, I'm not. I, you know, maybe I have the money for it. And sometimes I do. And sometimes I don't. But guess what?
    17:27
    Honey, I didn't mean that. No, but she's listening, going, what? She's not there. You're in a hotel room. It's OK. She does listen. So she'll go, what?
    17:41
    But yeah, it's just I don't understand these guys. I really don't. And, you know, when you see the price points, honestly, even though I've played both of Spooky's games and, you know, there's a chance to play the third one this weekend, $52.99 sounds a lot better.
    17:59
    So does the Alien. Yes, it does. But, you know, it's just way too much money. But we'll get off that subject. That was part of the news.
    18:14
    Anything else for news? That was my two big points I wanted to bring up. Yeah, that was kind of late news. I think the post-Expo lull. Yes. If you will. I want to say a special thanks because I've been stuck in Atlanta for nine days or eight days. Tomorrow will be nine. I want to give a special thanks to the Atlanta Pinball League. I know a couple of guys in the league, Scott and Chris Compton and a couple of the other guys. and I put out some feelers saying, hey, what's going on in Atlanta lately? Chris wasn't around, but he said, hey, we're having our league. Unfortunately, you can't really play in the league because it's our finals, but if you want to come over and hang out with some guys, and of course I'll jump anytime to play some pinball. Ed invited me over. I got to meet at least 18 to 20 of the Atlanta pinball players. I had a great time. It was a lot of fun. He has great games. When you're looking, you know, I got to look at the list of games he had, but Family Guy, I got a – the funny thing was we were playing Family Guy for dollars afterwards, and I was in a game with one of the other guys. I'm trying to remember. I'm just getting my phone up.
    19:33
    But I got $178 million with no extra balls on Family Guy. So I was doing pretty good with that. He had a Star Trek LE, a Getaway, a Hook, a Fire. A Fire, I was loving Fire. A Fire. Fire kicks ass. What else? I'm looking at the rest of the games here on his list.
    19:56
    He had a Game of Thrones Pro. He had a Metallica Pro, Demolition Man, an MMR, a Simpsons. I had a great time. I played with the guys after their league. It was actually nice hanging out and watching other people play and not being under any pressure until afterwards, and then winning some money. Brought home some money back. I'm bringing home some money back to New York State. Woo-hoo! $7 I won. Very good, Peter. I'm glad you like Family Guy. It's the greatest game ever. Oh! Didn't you own one and I own one? Oh, yeah. And where are they? Yeah, I sold it. And then when I was at the guy's house who I sold it to and it was right there, I didn't play it. Yeah.
    20:43
    It's actually a location league for Central New York this month, and I got to go play that hopefully and hopefully get a better score or get a good score like that one. That would be a hope. But a great time. The guys were very friendly to me. They brought pizza. I brought some snacks over. I brought some cookies and cakes. It was just really nice, and I had a great time. Didn't leave until 12. Thank you again to the Atlanta Pinball League. You are in our positive vibe thoughts. Yes. No, it was really cool. And I hope we've actually gotten some invitations already for when we go out to California for our trip out to Banning. One of our listeners had invited us over to his house. So hopefully we can make that. So that would be very cool, very nice. but it was really nice to see another league, another collection. Very cool. I also want to thank Tim last week.
    21:45
    And I want to thank Scott from two weeks ago. Without them, these past two weeks would have been a little dry. Like, it's weird. You know, we're in our first conversations, me and Ron alone, on this podcast in three weeks. Yes. Me three weeks. You too. Yes. Hopefully when we play this back that we're both on there. But, yes. God, I will shoot somebody. Well, BNN and I actually tested it as we were recording this time, and I was there. Yes. Well, on my side. Yes, what did you do this weekend? What did I do? I did some stuff. I went to New Hampshire, Pelham, New Hampshire, to play in the Pintoberfest.
    22:26
    Pintoberfest 4, The Final Nightmare, held at the Pinball Wizards Arcade. Nice. and uh how did you do first out of how many people were in the tournament uh maxed whatever it was think of 40 40 or 50 there's a lot of people and where did you finish out of the money of course right oh yes but not i didn't keep my usual trademark of almost be cashing because top four cash. I ended up in the I think 11th or 12th. Somewhere around there. I had one bad round.
    23:02
    See the way, and just to give a shout out to, I had several people come up to me who like the podcast.
    23:09
    So I'm the quieter member of the crew on the tilt. I'm not the slam. I'm not always the most super talkative, but don't take it the wrong way. That's just the way I am. I'm just more talkative in the uh that's weird i'm not in public i'm not as talkative but on the podcast i talk forever and i'm the total opposite right yeah he's the quiet one but out in um in public bruce is kind of the man child i would say he's definitely the man child um i'd like to give a shout out to those who uh a couple people saying like i was listening to your podcast on the way here because they had a long drive. Like, oh, cool.
    23:50
    So the tournament is, well, it wasn't quite as grueling for me this time because I got knocked out earlier, but it starts off with, I think they had 12 holes of golf with reverse scoring, meaning if you get a hole in one, that's a three.
    24:08
    If you get it on the third ball, it's a one. If you don't get it all, it's a zero. So I got 18, which was near the higher end. the highest score I think was 25 with some of them in the lower 20s and I looked who was playing in the tournament and I predicted who the final four were going to be like in the first round which I turned out to be right but I'll get into that so after that which takes quite a while had a break, an actual break this year I played the classics you play like three games and they do this bizarre addition thing where you take like the first two digits of the scores and add them all together, assuming six digits. So it would be like first and second digits. So if you only got like, say, 70,000, that's just a seven.
    25:03
    If you got 170,000, it would be 17. Yeah, it works out. It works out. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, but the best will win. And it was on Genie, Flash, and Silver Ball Mania.
    25:25
    I had a decent, I had a pretty good Flash score, I had a very good Silver Ball Mania score, and I had, I guess, a shitty Genie score. I have no idea what the hit on that came. So I was in the upper, I don't know, six or seven of that, but did not win that.
    25:42
    Fail. so then after after the golf they do two rounds of their league style which is is think of pinberg and that's what this is except you get to pick the game once like each you're in four sums and each person gets to pick a game out of all the god 100 200 games or whatever they're there so So I'm trying to remember what we had. Let's just say I bombed out in the first round of the head-to-head, and that killed me.
    26:15
    Just killed me. I picked whodunit and lost. I ended up last. Fail. And a person got, like, they drained, but they got the free spin, which gave them the ball back, and they ended up winning because of that. Yeah. And since it's not in – none of the games are in tournament mode, too, So that was really stupid on my part because there's way too much randomness there. Yeah. But, hey, fail, whatever. I ended up, I think I got, the way they do the scoring is first in the group is five, and then it's three, two, one.
    26:49
    So five, then second is three points. Third, you get two points. Last, you get one point. There you go. So I had a whopping seven points.
    26:59
    Fail. Fail, fail. Yeah. Then the second round did much better. I won my group, had like, I don't know, 15. I ended up with like a third, a last, and then two firsts.
    27:10
    Out of all things, I'm trying to remember what we played. We played Millionaire, which was just multi-ball after multi-ball after multi-ball. Yeah. Yeah, I finished, what, I think third. And then we played, oh, yeah, we played Frigate Hobbit. And a blast. Then we played real games. Then we played High Speed, which ended up first, and then we played, oh, then it was my pick. So I'm like, okay, none of this multi-ball bullshit, none of this ridiculous rule set bullshit, no lock stealing bullshit. We're going to Harlem Globetrotters. Nice. Which they had a score display out, so what we did is we played two and then two. I played because I picked it, I was first and the other guy was second and I had I don't know the exact score but let's just say it was like I had 250,100 and he had 250,000 I won by like 100 and he played after me so his bonus is counting up and it's like oh shit and then it just stops like 100 points before my score like oh fail, yes or win for me. Win for you, Phil. Win for him. Yeah, he was like, oh. And then the other two combatants played, you know, the next. They played next, and they both had terrible games. They got houseballed big time several times, and neither of them even got six figures.
    28:43
    So I ended up winning that. So if I had had a decent first round there of the head-to-head, I could have gotten the top eight.
    28:53
    And then from the top eight, they go at it and go down to the top four, which I predicted at the beginning would be Jim Calcia, which it was, and Joe, I never say his name, Lemire, Lemire, Lemire, Joe Lemire, Jerry, Jerry Bernard, because he was there, and I figured he'd have to be there. And I picked Chuck, Chuck Webster as fourth, because he's been in the Final Four before. And sure enough, that was the final four. And who won? Yeah, Jim won. I think Jim won. What, Joe was second.
    29:29
    I think Chuck was third, and Jerry was fourth. Wow. So that was the Pintoverfest. So we got to play a shitload of games that all worked. And what were your thoughts on Hobbit? Shout out to, before I get to that, shout out to Sarah, the owner. Hobbit? Hobbit sucks.
    29:53
    Hobbit's a fucking turd. Nothing changed my mind there. The thing that sucked is, what Sarah does is, whatever the latest and greatest game is, whatever the showcase game is, it's kind of in the middle of the arcade, and it's like five tokens.
    30:08
    Where all the other new sterns are four, the Williams games are three, and the old solid states are two.
    30:15
    So it was in the special section. with like Lord of the, not Lord of the Rings. What am I thinking here? With Game of Thrones.
    30:26
    They were both like five, which I had to play both of them. That sucked. Five tokens. But to play five, I don't mind Lord of the Rings. I said it again. Jesus, Game of Thrones, I don't mind putting five tokens in, but Hobbit, just, ah.
    30:44
    So you want to buy one? God, no. The thing, you know, and I've watched Carl D'Angelo, who's the one who makes the software that Papa uses and seemingly everyone uses, the Drains Tournament Manager. He has a Hobbit, and he posts videos of his Hobbit. I like to play a Hobbit that plays like his Hobbit because this thing was the usual floaty shit.
    31:10
    Floaty? What do you mean? You mean games out there are in location or floaty? Don't even go there. yeah i tried to try to hit the right orbit like five times and just couldn't hit it because it just just the flippers just were we i just it's just oh after playing dialed in which is the same damn hardware and then playing this thing i it's hard to believe they're the same freaking manufacturer almost it's just the one place so much better than the other i just floaty did i use uh that as a game i hate yet no you have not yeah but i won't use it this week because I'm going to use, when we get to that, I'm going to use the games I used when no one could hear me in the Scott episode. Oh, there you go. Good idea. I remembered what they were, so I got those ready. Okay. But that was my weekend.
    31:59
    So a good time had by all. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I played decent for most of it, so it was all right. So eventually we're going to get Mike on. I'm going to see him this weekend, Mike from Pinball Wizards, who opened a shop up in Syracuse. Hopefully we get him on soon. And our other special guest, the one we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, will be coming on, I think, after Tim's episode. So after the Amsterdam episode, we will have... Tim is going to be on the Amsterdam episode? Yes, he is, because that's the show right after The Sanctum. Oh, okay. When is the Sanctum? As you see, I'm really with it, man. Maybe I should just wait for the show reports at the end when you give all the tournaments. You'll have to, but that's next weekend. Oh, okay. Not this weekend. Next weekend. No, it's not next weekend. And today was actually the – one year ago was the end of the Sanctum today. This is the day we were trying to get home and going, Yeah.
    33:07
    We were all exhausted. Yeah, 24 hours of pain. No, no thanks. Did you get to watch the Tilt video yet? No, I did not. Okay, so next week I think we're going to – we've had a couple people asking us about questions about the Tilt video. So I'm required to watch it now? You have to watch this. We will talk about it next week, possibly at your house. Possibly I'll be down at the – at my school. It all depends on how school goes and how late I get out. But there's a possibility we might do either or. Yeah, we'll have to talk about this weekend. Yeah, this weekend we'll be delivering. I'm actually delivering two games this weekend. Oh you are Yeah Mike is getting his space shuttle finally It finally getting out of my basement That will be delivered Friday And then Sunday Sunday Sunday Sunday someone getting a Harlem
    34:03
    Yeah, and we'll have to talk. You going to the Binghamton tournament? I was thinking about it. Yeah, I might. Well, luckily, I have a great wife, my wife, Kathy. I was told – we talked a little bit a couple weeks ago. We said, I'm going to cut back on pinball a little bit, which I have. I really have. So she saw the post up on about the Binghamton thing, and she goes to me on the FaceTime, because that's all we've been doing lately this whole week. It's just been talking on FaceTime. She goes, so are you going Sunday? I'm like, well, Friday – I get home tomorrow night late. So then Thursday is my only free day to actually get all my stuff ready for Amsterdam. and then maybe try to get the games – try to get most of the games ready for the tournament in two weeks because I won't be around. Friday night, I have Central New York pinball, but I'm going to drop her off at a – she's going to get her palm read.
    34:59
    Okay. I was trying to think of a funny color joke there, but I just – sorry. I just think it looks funny when you always see the palm read. Yeah, he paints his palm read. Yes, yes. I was trying to think of something funny. Sorry. Another fail. So she's going to that, and I'm going to go to the Central New York Pinball League night and then come back and go hang out with her the rest of the night. And then unfortunately, it's been snowing in upstate New York already.
    35:23
    Cool. So we haven't had much accumulation, but I have to change over my lawnmower to a snowblower again. So that will be Saturday's fun stuff plus all the rest of the stuff plus getting my laundry ready because Sunday is the Binghamton tournament if I go. and then I have to go to Ron's drop-off his game and then I have to go to school and be there until Wednesday. So I have a busy week again. Yes, you do. Yes, but I want to get rid of some games out of my house.
    35:53
    There you go. So I want two to be gone. So Space Shuttle will be going to Mike Smith, who is the owner of Pinball Wizards in Syracuse and then I get rid of this damn Harlem that's nicer than mine. yes you could hear the evil it was like the emperor almost like yes yes yes I praise you use the force use your aggressive feelings yes I have a busy week but you have to watch the Tilt video again or you haven't yet and we'll go over a little bit about it because we had some people asking first they loved it and they want to go over it. Run some questions about it. Okay. We can do that.
    36:45
    Next step, game you like, game you hate. Well, how about repairs? Nothing. I haven't been home since the last time you talked to me. Okay. I got the boards back for S.T.A.R.S. Oh, and? Put them all in, three for three. Everything's functioning, and I got the Scott software in there now, So we are now in full free play mode. In typical incompetence, though, when Scott sent me the software, he sent the release notes, which tell you which dip switch you have to turn on to activate the free play. So, of course, I saved off the file, the software. But guess what? I deleted.
    37:24
    The notes. Yeah. The read me. Yeah. So I had to email him because otherwise I'd just be trying five different dip switches. And just like, which one is it? No, it's 23, in case anyone cares. It's the one that's not used on Starz. It's just not used. And I forgot, he has a thing in there, like when you turn the game on, it actually shows the code revision. So there's like a delay when it's showing that. I forgot he did that.
    37:51
    And it does. And he almost threw me. I had to get used to the fact that it acts like an MPU 200 game now. Like before the third ball, it shows you the high score to date, just like Meteor and any game afterwards would. so very nice. There was, there was a nice meteor. Actually, somebody went up for sale in Michigan on Facebook and our buddy, Oren day, grabbed it right away. Looks like, and it was really nice. And it was only 650 bucks.
    38:17
    Can't be meteor. No, you can't be meter. And in a meteor that looked like a beautiful cabinet and a nice play field. So I was sitting there going, so Oren, if you're listening, Hey, if you ever want to get rid of it, come see me.
    38:31
    Yeah. Bruce is here. Okay, so game you like, game you hate, Mr. Ron. All right, all right. These were my – this was what you would have heard.
    38:42
    Two weeks ago. Yeah, if my track wasn't deleted or not recorded. All right, game I like. And these were originally – I did these because Scott, Mr. Stern, was on the show. for a game I like I put Electronimo which is an older Stern Bruce ain't too crazy but he's not too crazy but I like Electronimo there was actually a pop-up video on it I believe they did one of their actual video with commentary on Electronimo and game I hate Viper yeah crickets because I saw Tim playing that on Twitch. He was at the Sanctum and they have it there. It was every bit as shitty as I remember watching him play. It sucked. It is really bad.
    39:40
    Warwick's great. Backglass is killer. Killer Backglass. That centerpiece does not work. It captures the ball and you turn and you fire it. No.
    39:54
    Yeah. Especially in a company that basically made games that were just fast, no stopping, to have something like that. It was kind of weird, really. It was a gimmick. They were trying. It was near the end. It was one of their last games.
    40:09
    So what do you want from me first, game I like or game I hate? Same order. What do you like? You own it. Oh, oh my. Okay, what do I own that he doesn't own? Are you going to say stars? Nope. Oh, okay, go for it. Rem, Strokers, Dracula. Now, wait a minute. Wait. Okay, this is a 180. It is. Bruce is a guy that used to make fun of me for having it. He used to just make, like, Monster Bash Dracula sounds. Blah! And I still make fun of it because every time you get the multiplier. What happens when you multiply the game on the bonus multiplier? The bonus multiplier here. Ah! And what does Bruce do every time it happens? He goes. Ah! I scream it throughout the whole place. Yes. It actually has grown on me because the good thing about the game, when you get the multi-ball and then another multi-ball and then another multi-ball and you stack them, it goes from 10 million to 20 million to 30 million, and it really gets you going. And then if you, you know, it's just a great, the rule set, it does have some flaws in it, you know, but it is growing on me. Multi-multi-ball. What kind of flaws does this offer? The bats and the rats. I don't like, you know, it should be just one time instead of three bonuses. Okay, you don't like the, okay. I'll give you that. They could have made it a setting or something. Yeah, they could have made it a setting, which would have made it a lot better. You know, on like a newer CERN game, that would be a setting. Yes. They'd have like, yeah. But, or, you know, or saving it. You know, that'd be kind of cool. Like, you know, do I take the points now or do I save it towards the end? You know, that would be kind of cool, too. You know, maybe that would be kind of a cool rule. But you're going to get it regardless unless you tell them. I know, but people wouldn't remember it until the end. Like, you know, but it's just. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Then there'd be people like shouting, take the bonus, the bonus. And no, you can't help him. Oh, yeah, that would be.
    42:11
    40 million, you know, each ball. You're already down 120 million. If you get that on the first ball. when you get a great sort of great rat. Rats. Rats is less. And a lot of it's just luck, depending on if it goes to the pop-up or if it goes crazy. Boom, you got it.
    42:27
    Goes out of the pop-up or if you're kind of screwed. Yeah, you're kind of screwed. Yeah, I'll give you that. But it's a great game. Shots are good.
    42:37
    You know, could it be better? Yes, of course it could. But it's a good game. All right. Game you hate. I am going all the way out in far left field. This is almost like the Cubbies going to the World Series.
    42:52
    Okay. Middle Earth. Wow. Well, thank you. You reminded me now. I can use pretty much every Atari game other than, like, Superman.
    43:07
    There's three. There's three good ones. Oh, there's three good ones. Okay. There actually is. Superman. And Steve Ritchie's. Yeah. I like the Airborne Avenger. Okay, Airborne Avenger is not terrible. It has a kick out on the left-hand side, gets you back up. All right, what's the third one? Most of the Atari's don't get you back up to the upper lanes. What's the third one? I actually don't mind Hercules. Okay, I'll give you that. Believe it or not, folks, that game is fairly playable. It's more playable than you would think. But the thing is, it was originally a Bally design. Exactly. And I actually don't mind Roadrunner or 4x4. Okay. But why do you hate Middle Earth? Let's get back to Middle Earth. Oh, it's just terrible. There's no way to get it back up top. It's a very clunky game. It's the second one.
    43:55
    Just weak shots. You're stuck to only a certain amount of shots. The artwork is even terrible on the game. The fake dinosaur looks like, you know, just, ugh. You know, the funny thing is, I think of the parallels between them and Jersey Jack games.
    44:16
    And that, wide bodies. All the Ataris are wide bodies. Yes, they are, except for... No, they're all wide bodies. Then they have the boards in the bottom of the cabinet. Yes.
    44:27
    I know. You know, and it's like they didn't learn, and then years later, Jersey Jack, wide bodies, boards at the bottom of the cabinet. But he changed. Now he's up to the top. Yeah, yeah. Lawler said, this is dumb. I know. It is dumb.
    44:42
    But, yeah, it's just a very not fun game. And don't forget the rules when you own an Atari pinball machine. Have a fire extinguisher below your game.
    44:55
    Oh, okay. Why is that? The power supplies have monster capacitors on them. And when the capacitors fail, they actually fail by flaring up and actually catching on fire. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Good job, Atari. Stick to the video games. Yes. Even their caps on those were pretty good, too. The best thing, you know, it was worth it, though, because it got Steve Ritchie in the door. Yes, and Eugene Jarvis. And Eugene Jarvis. So it was basically worth it. Yes, it was. Yes.
    45:25
    So those are my two games. Two things I want to bring up also. We had one of the people I brought. Well, first, Zach just texted me while we were talking, and he's like, Hey, can you help me pick out a game this weekend? And I had to say, Nope, busy. So sorry, Zach. He didn't text you and say, Please mention me. I need to keep my streak alive. No, he said, Please help me grab a game. And unfortunately, I told him I can't this weekend. So he was kind of bummed out a little bit. He wanted to buy another game. Zach's up to almost 20 now.
    45:55
    That boy needs help. He needs help. He's gone to the wrong person for advice. Me! And so – but one of our people – one of the people we've actually mentioned on the podcast who actually owns half of one of the games I own, which is Viking, which is Neil, had a bit of bad luck this weekend, and I feel really bad for him.
    46:17
    And this is actually a general thing he actually posted on Buffalo Pinball on the Facebook page, and I want everyone to actually do this, which I have on most of my games, not all, and I'll explain why. uh he had a tree fall down on his power line so people are saying oh what's the big deal about that well when it fell down instead of killing his power it put 230 volts through his 120 line so every piece of electronics that was not on a surge protector surge protector got blown out so people don't really think like oh what what what's so bad about that he luckily had served protectors on 95 of his pinball machines including the viking which i'm very grateful for and i wouldn't care if it blew up anyway i guess what it could have caught fire at a house could be a lot worse but you think about what's computer controlled in your house your dishwasher your dryer. He had one pinball machine that got taken out. One of his nicest ones, too. It's really a shame. His Barracora took a big hit. Blew out the varirisitor and the fuse so far. He hasn't got any further. It took out his I think he said his furnace also because it had computer controls in it.
    47:39
    All your computers, everything like that. So definitely if you guys don't have your stuff on surge protectors, they do work because all the games that he had on the surge protectors and his TV and everything else. He added the surge protectors. They all got protected.
    47:54
    He has to throw them out now because they took a big hit. But guess what? Please, people, for the extra, you know, here's the funny thing. I'm going to say the funniest thing of all. Most of you people are buying LEDs. Most of you people are buying mods. I guarantee most of you people don't have surge protectors on your games.
    48:14
    Put them on it. save your games. That's a public announcement from Bruce Nightingale. So you have surge protectors? Don't you just have those big power strips behind them? They are surge protectors. They are fused. Okay. And I do have something even better. I have breakers that are off when I'm not playing the games.
    48:35
    So I would have to go through a closed breaker. If it goes to the closed breaker, it still will hit the surge protector.
    48:43
    Those strips are surge protected. They're 20-amp surge. So he had a bit of bad luck. Please, people, you know, you don't want to have, you know, he's got a big enough insurance bill as it is. Imagine trying to explain and putting all the money and time into his games. I know a lot of my friends don't have surge protectors. Do it.
    49:03
    Guess what? Surge protectors might become big money and popular now, but people are putting $200 in the LEDs in the games.
    49:11
    Guess what's going to happen when your games get taken out? You're going to be putting thousands of dollars.
    49:16
    It's not worth the time, not worth the effort. And what happens is when you get surge protector, you know, when a game gets taken out or something else, it's never the same. It really isn't. You go through, you know, the Transformers take a hit. It's really bad. I've seen a couple games actually get taken out at a bar. I actually had a – we'll go back into my old history. I had a Back to the Future that actually caught on fire and was in a fire in a bar because the same thing happened. The 230 jumped, and they actually had like 400 volts go through the building, and the building actually caught on fire. And one of the things that got out was $100 Back to the Future. This thing was a nightmare to get running. And then once I got it running, everything was full food barred on it. Not worth it. Put some surge protectors on your crap. Save some money the other way. Don't buy LEDs this month. Don't buy the mod this month. Buy a surge protector. And don't forget, change your batteries this month because guess what? We're changing times. Change your batteries if you have them still in your machine. A public service announcement from Bruce Knight and Gail. Yeah, it's just common sense. Let's use some common sense, guys. Oh, I got to get some surge protectors, I guess. Oh, see?
    50:32
    Yeah, he's got some money he's going to put out. And forced insurance is going to take a lot of it, But it's just a pain in the ass, though. It really is. And, Neil, I'm thinking about you. When he said it first I thought about his family and make sure they were okay which they were which is the most important thing But other than that big headache big nightmare All right Two weeks from now where where am i gonna be where are you gonna be after damn yes yes so i be we be recording so we will be doing normal time stuff again so you'll see me we'll have a show report actually that two weeks and we'll have timmy on so it's going to be a triple feature in two weeks Nice, very nice We're going to have two show reports actually We're going to have the Sanctum show report from Tim And we're going to have The show report from me in Amsterdam And Tim's a young guy, he can survive Actually Hopefully he'll be rested up by that Tuesday I hope so So, um Pinball feature I'm not really doing it today Okay, well I think you did it last time And I didn't, so I have one Okay. This is kind of a stupid one, but I... Here's the trivia question. You can tell me the only game this ever was in.
    51:52
    The ability to earn an extra tilt warning. Don't even know. Doctor Dude. Really? It's one of the mystery awards. Oh, God. Extra tilt warning, yes. So there you go. It's Doctor Dude. I'd like to have a skill-based thing, not a mystery award, but some way you can earn like an extra tilt warning, I think would be a neat idea. God, we need Timmy sliding four inches and then getting that extra bonus to slide again. Come on. Timmy weighs like 120 pounds. Don't let him slide your game. Come on. He does slide the game pretty good. I know he does.
    52:31
    So we have your innovation you want to see come back, possibly again. This is a fun one. That is a cute one. I like that one. I didn't know what he was doing there. Yeah, I'd especially like it if it was some skill-based thing and see if anyone would actually go for it or bother. I don't know.
    52:50
    Like if someone had a double danger, maybe they could do what I try for it because then I have one more. You know, there you go.
    52:59
    Shall we report? Or are we talking to anything else? I think that's pretty much it. Phases to stun. Proton torpedoes to speed. Or no. Oh, I'm getting confused with Batman.
    53:14
    That Batman 66, that $50,000 Batman game just... We still haven't seen play yet. Well, I had a good line coming, too. I was going to say, well, at least we saw Batman flip finally. Oh. No, we didn't. We haven't seen shit. And guess where they're shipping, folks? When? End of the month? Next month. November.
    53:38
    It's supposed to be shipping in November. There was a thing right from Gary Stern that said the distributor saying, no more Cornerstone games this year. We're shipping to Batman's in November. You know, the ones you haven't seen flip yet.
    53:50
    And paid for, $15,000. Yes, and paid $15,000 for. Because, you know, we don't take pre-orders. We don't do that kind of stuff. Yeah, okay, Stern. Okay.
    54:01
    Holy cow, Batman. I'm probably going to be banned for everything now. Don't let him in the seminar. You're actually being more aggressive than I am. He's from that podcast. at it's just you know come on come on don't don't don't say how awesome you are because you know you see our games before you pay for them and then you do a pre-order and not only do you do a pre-order then when you are going to supposedly show the game off the software's not done enough or whatever or throw lyman under the bus because he won't let you play the game with exact words again if you I want to look that video on YouTube. Aren't you the president of Mania Frank? Oh, no. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, just throwing a guy under the bus saying like, you know, he did it in a humorous way. It wasn't meant to be. But still, it comes off like, you know, Lyman's not going to let you play this. So here's these three games. We're going to have them just sit here. You can stare at them. Yeah. Or you can go over and actually play Alien. Or Dialed In. or the freaking Pabst Cancrusher or the freaking Noid game or Domino's. You can play all those. Ribbon on my mind.
    55:10
    Rant off, whatever. Okay, yeah. So, yeah. But yeah, so we haven't seen anything on the Batman. So, not even Jack Danger saying, hey, we're going to have Batman. I was expecting that this week or maybe next week it will pop up. But yeah, it's kind of... Oh, yeah. Yeah, from the factory. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like there's a Jack Danger with the Stern side, and the Buffalo Pinball guys are on the Jersey Jack side. Yes. Yes, they are. They're probably one and two as far as viewership in the Twitch community. Probably. Yep. I know Jack's number one. Yeah. I'm just guessing Buffalo's probably number two. I'm assuming so, and then hopefully Tim Balls is in the top five. Yeah, Tim Balls. We've got to get everyone. Go to Tim Balls. We've got to get him to number three. get him to number one. Yes, we do.
    56:00
    Although I don't know if anyone's going to Stern or Jersey Jack will let him in the factory. Well, not with his rants. He's too outspoken. We can't have him in there. Sorry. I would have him in there. Maybe he'll get a sponsorship from Highway or something else. Maybe. He does like playing Highway games. Maybe. He put down full throttle. No, he put down full throttle But with the rules, with the rules, he said the shots are fun. No, he said they had too many shots because it was a wide body. Remember his whole thing about. You're never going to make too many shots. No, I totally disagree. You can have too many shots. There are definitely games that have too many shots. At least I'm not a red shirt, number one.
    56:47
    You're dead. You're dead, Jeff. Spock, I think it's time to pay the bills. All right. Illogical. Okay. Are you a spa game show host? Yes. Illogical. Logical, Captain. Your answer is clearly wrong.
    57:04
    So, events coming up. We're going to pay the bills. First, www.pinballlifter.com. Come check out my products. We sell lifters, helpers, tilters, even your rotisserie needs. single and the only dual rotisserie that is made, which makes swapping out play field a dream. You don't have to take any pictures or not many pictures, but you get to still move all your stuff from the bad play field to the good play field. It practically swaps itself.
    57:40
    And they did announce actually that they're releasing a new batch of play fields coming up. Do you see that from CPR?
    57:48
    Okay. Yeah. We got to be more specific. They are releasing a batch of play. Who's they and what play field? From CPR. And what are the play fields? Sorcerer is one of them. Damn, I thought you were going to say Nineball. No. Oh, Nineball would be freaking great. What else was there? I have to actually go on because I was not expecting that until I remembered it two seconds ago.
    58:10
    Don't worry. We'll edit this down and it will appear totally seamless. They have lethal weapon plastic sets that are coming out. Woo-hoo! I know. I love Lethal Weapon. I'm like the biggest Lethal Weapon fan. I played that. That was at Expo. That was awesome. Love it. Now, grab the gun and fire.
    58:32
    Mel Gibson custom speech in that, folks. Back then, they could actually get the stars to do it. Star Wars, Data East. Oh, okay.
    58:42
    The Shadow is now also. And Star Trek Data East and Sorcerer. That graduated from the boutique. So that's kind of cool. Still waiting. And good thing is, skateboard, a skateboard, silkscreen ready. Silkscreen is being done.
    59:03
    So another play field swap for the... Eventually, yeah. Eventually, okay. Eventually, yeah. Hi, honey.
    59:12
    Okay. So we're going to pay the bills. Two tournaments this coming weekend. October 29th in New York City, Stars Tournament. All Stars Tournament. The lowest IFPA points you can possibly earn. By law.
    59:35
    Levy and Tim Sexton, our own Tim Sexton, Tim Balls, is having a tournament. And it's in New York City. If you look up Stars Tournament on Facebook, you will get all the information. but that is on October 29th in New York City.
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    Go check it out. Please. Great time. Had by all. Also the same day in Buffalo is the Domino Pinball launch party for Spooky Pinball. First time you'll actually be able to play the game on a location. It's the first one being released. That's on October 29th from 6 or 7 p.m. until midnight. It's an IFPA points tournament. In what location? At the Pocketeer Billiards. They announced they also have Domino's Pizza there. That makes sense. Very good. Perfect sense. And I saw the trophy. The trophy has annoyed on it. Oh. I know. That makes it different right there. I know it does. Damn, you know, the All-Stars tournament is good, but, man, the annoyed? on your trophy. So you can check out all the information for that at buffalopinball.com and also buffalopinball on Facebook.
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    The day after, you might see Slam, you might see Tilt, you might not see either of us at the Binghamton Tournament, October 30th. I think it starts at 1pm or 12pm at the Moonwalker Arcade in Vestal. I think that's where it's at. That's correct. You might see us both. You might see one of us. You might see neither of us. But go out and have a great time.
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    JT might be there. I saw him trying to get some people to go up from Orange County. Hopefully everyone comes out. It's a great location. They've really bringing more games into that place. Good to support Binghamton Pinball also.
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    Retro Game Com, November 5th and 6th. in Syracuse. Central New York's going to be there. I, unfortunately, am not going to be there. I will be flying. I will be actually in Amsterdam at that time. I was planning on going, but I cannot now. But Buffalo Pinball and Central New York Pinball are hopefully going to be slated there. There should be some pinball on location there. Come check it out. Great time.
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    Pinball Tournament of November is coming up. they remember the old NFL videos and uh Finger Lakes Open November 12 go to www.wnypinball.com John Fasanda you are not it needs to be more like on the frozen tundra of Bloomfield New York where it is snowing. So it's $15 to pre-register until October 31st at midnight. After that, it'll be $20. Either you can register or if there's still spots open, you can come to the door. But I wouldn't depend on that because the last time we had, just before the tournament, people started paying in, and then we had one person come to the door like, hey, I have my $20. I'm like, yeah, we're filled up. So you don't want to miss out. We have 29 people signed up, 11 spots left.
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    How many people we have is how many people going, half the people are going to qualify for the final. So we have 30, 15 are going to qualify. We have 40, which is the max. We're going to have 20 people qualifying. 18 holes of golf. Then we're going into match play finals. Very good. High FBA points.
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    Play Centaur. Play the famous Centaur as featured on the Slam Tilt podcast. Yes. November 19th, Saturday, 10 a.m. in Catskill at the Catskill Classic Pinball Tournament.
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    It's our friend Howard Levine. He is going to have a tournament on the 19th. And I think there's a couple more tournaments going on down there, but we'll get to them in a couple weeks when they're getting closer.
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    That's good. But definitely check out Howard. Howard has a great location. Bring your bowling shoes. And earmuffs if you happen to be near the jukebox. That'll be very loud. Yes, very loud. And bring your, like, one of those things you used to put on the back of your phones to boost them, you know, like an antenna booster.
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    Oh, yeah. You need a cell phone tower, basically, where he is. Yes. I think that's all the news and all the paying the bills we need, except for, of course, your famous lines. What is your famous? Yes. Yes, you are. I will say we've had our downloads have been going big time up lately. Thank you very much for everyone who has listened. We are noticing. Yeah, for honestly, when we started this, if we could get 50 people to listen, that would have been enough for me. Yeah, so honestly, I was I was happy with it. But we are very grateful. You know, I'll tell you, you know.
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    You know, pinsiders, you know, some of you. Oh, my fucking God. Some of you. You're great. You know, I'll tell it like it is. I ain't going to sugarcoat shit here. You know that. But we still like that you listen. You might hate us. You might like us. You might disagree with us. Boy, I had two people this week actually disagree with me about the Twilight Zone. Thank you. No, but here's the best thing. They were live right in front of me. I said, okay. He goes, I couldn't listen to that podcast. I had to turn it off. You were making fun of Twilight Zone and Ghostbusters. So I turned around and I said, what's so good about Twilight Zone? It's a classic. No, well, what's so good about it?
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    And he really had nothing positive. It was classic. I was like, well, what's so good? And then, of course, the Ghostbusters, you know, you know, it's guess what? Ghostbusters, it's some people's cup of tea and some people's not. It is not mine. Maybe Ron will convince me otherwise when we open up his. We'll see.
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    Is it yours open yet, or is it still folded? No, it's still sitting upstairs. Excellent. Yes. Excellent.
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    But, yeah, so we had a lot of people. So our downloads have really increased. We've noticed it. We thank you all.
    66:17
    So I think that's it. Mr. Woff, it's time to say the final announcements. Yes, it is. Just number one. Make it so, number one. Make it so. All right. So once again, thank you for listening to us, the Slam Tilt Podcast. We can be found on Facebook. Just search for Slam Tilt Podcast. Also on YouTube, again, just search for Slam Tilt Podcast. We make it easy for you. Feel free to send us correspondence at either location. Send us emails directly. That would be slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Thank you for all your comments that you've been sending. And just remember that Bruce is wrong about Twilight Zone. This concludes episode 16. No, it's not. I'm not. Nope. I'm not taking that as a final. You're not taking it. He's not going to let me sign off on that. Okay. No, not at all. But that's why we, if you notice, I do plug people who do mention and do make comments, even if they're positive or negative. I do say, hey, you know, we will acknowledge you for your support. thank you for your support thank you for your support goodbye see you next time either at ron's or in connecticut yes say goodbye bruce
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    you