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I'm Sure I'll Get BANNED Next

Cary Hardy·video·17m 2s·held·Feb 26, 2025
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TL;DR

Cary Hardy exposes scammers and criticizes Pinball Enthusiasts admin for wrongful bans and lack of apology.

Summary

Cary Hardy exposes a Facebook scam operation impersonating pinball machine distributors and critiques an admin of the large Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group for falsely accusing and banning Jeff Miller (Pinball Pimp) based on a case of mistaken identity involving an eBay seller with a similar name. The admin allegedly abused power by banning supporters who defended Miller, sparking community backlash and the creation of a rival Pinball Enthusiasts 2.0 group.

Key Claims

  • A Facebook page posing as a pinball machine distributor (possibly 'Mike's Pinball Machines' or 'Scott's Pinball Machines') is running a scam operation based in India, using broken English and Google Translate to solicit shipping payments upfront.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy, based on his direct interaction with the scammers and corroboration from others in his community who reported similar contact attempts.

  • Jeff Miller (Pinball Pimp), a legitimate pinball stencil kit seller and restoration expert based in Tampa, Florida for 30+ years, was falsely accused by a Pinball Enthusiasts admin of wrongdoing on eBay due to confusion with a different seller named 'Pinball Pimp' located in St. Simons, Georgia.

    high confidence · Keith Stanton's post cited by Cary Hardy, corroborated by the admin error being corrected and Jeff being reinstated by co-admin Bill.

  • The Pinball Enthusiasts admin (Jim) abused his power by banning not only Jeff Miller but also multiple community members who defended Miller or disagreed with the admin's actions.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy account of events and Keith Stanton's statement confirming Jim removed Jeff from multiple Facebook pages including Pinball (EM) and Pinball Classifieds.

  • The admin refused to issue a public apology despite smearing Jeff Miller's reputation in front of 28,000 members and instead deleted posts to cover his tracks.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy confirmed with Jeff Miller directly that no apology was made; the admin deleted messages according to Hardy's account.

  • Pinball Enthusiasts Facebook group has over 28,000 members and the admin controls multiple pinball-related Facebook pages, not just the flagship group.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy direct observation and Keith Stanton's post confirming the admin removed Jeff from Pinball (EM) and Pinball Classifieds.

  • A new Facebook group called 'Pinball Enthusiast 2.0' was created in response to the admin's abuse of power.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy mentions the creation of this rival group and encourages people to join it as an alternative to the original Pinball Enthusiasts page.

Notable Quotes

  • “these people do not care about you they don't care if you get a game or anything the thing is they're not even going to get to the point of trying to take the money for a game that's not what they're after they're after that quick couple of hundred bucks”

    Cary Hardy @ ~4:30 — Explains the scammer's true motivation: quick upfront payments for shipping/registration rather than actual game sales.

  • “a reputable distributor will not randomly reach out to people to buy pinball machines they don't do that there's a list of all the reputable certified dealers for like stern pinball on stern pinball's website”

    Cary Hardy @ ~6:45 — Provides practical advice to community members on how to identify legitimate dealers and avoid cold-contact scammers.

  • “Jeff Miller, pinball pimp, he did nothing wrong. The individual's name on eBay, although said pinball pimp, it wasn't Jeff Miller, pinball pimp. It was somebody else, more than likely a scammer.”

    Cary Hardy @ ~13:20 — Clarifies the core issue: the admin banned an innocent person based on a case of mistaken identity.

  • “this is the kind of person that was a little bitch in school that got picked on And now the individual older and now they got some sort of sense of power over a social media Facebook page And now they feel like this is the chance for them to feel powerful over everybody.”

    Cary Hardy @ ~17:30 — Hardy's psychological assessment of the admin's behavior as power-seeking compensation for past powerlessness.

  • “He's banning people because they're saying things that he doesn't like. And so due to the nature of this, there is another Pinball Enthusiast page called Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 that has started on Facebook.”

    Cary Hardy @ ~19:00 — Explains the motivation for the new rival group: selective enforcement based on the admin's personal preferences rather than community rules.

Entities

Cary HardypersonJeff MillerpersonJimpersonBillpersonKeith StantonpersonPinball EnthusiastsorganizationPinball Enthusiasts 2.0organizationEM PinballorganizationPinball Classifiedsorganization

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Large, established Facebook community (28,000+ members) experienced visible admin abuse where an admin falsely accused a community member based on mistaken identity and selectively banned supporters who disagreed with the ban, violating stated community rules.

    high · Jim's false accusation of Jeff Miller, subsequent banning of Jeff and defenders, refusal to apologize, deletion of evidence, and creation of rival group Pinball Enthusiasts 2.0 as a direct response.

  • ?

    industry_signal: Organized scam operation impersonating pinball machine distributors, targeting community members via Facebook Messenger cold outreach with fake credentials and requesting upfront shipping/registration payments.

    high · Cary Hardy's direct interaction with scammers, corroboration from multiple community members who received identical opening messages, fake distributor Facebook pages with hundreds of friends.

  • ?

    community_signal: Disconnect between community rules and admin enforcement in major Facebook groups; admin using ban power selectively based on personal disagreement rather than rule violations, eroding trust in moderation.

    high · Hardy's analysis that bans were for expressing support for Jeff Miller, not rule violations. Multiple supporters banned for defending an innocent person.

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community sentiment shift away from original Pinball Enthusiasts group toward decentralized/alternative spaces (Pinball Enthusiasts 2.0) due to visible admin misconduct and lack of accountability mechanisms.

    high · Creation of Pinball Enthusiasts 2.0 in direct response to admin abuse; Hardy's statement that he and others will post primarily on the new group; 700+ likes on Jeff Miller's reinstatement post showing strong community support.

Transcript

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0:00
What's up guys and welcome back to the channel where I talk and do everything pinball. So if that sounds interesting to you, then hit the subscribe button down below. We're going to dive right into it. We're talking about scammers and we're talking about a little bit of pinball drama. So let's jump into it. Let's get the scammer portion over and done with. I went over this last night on a live stream. I'm not going to give you the entire dialogue. I believe it's very dry. I merely want to point out to you guys this right here. Now note, I'm currently friends with this particular scammer. I just want to make everyone aware that this is not a legitimate distributor or a pinball dealer of any sorts. I have literally been going back and forth for days with this, I say individual, but more than likely it's more than just one over there in India.
1:02
But they reached out to me, and the broken English was partly a good giveaway for this, but as well as just me just being inquisitive and knowing what I know about this industry and hobby, and every question was answered incorrectly. to the point where they're telling me that the manufacturer of Tales of the Arabian Nights will cover my playfield any possible wear and tear. Trust me, I was asking questions just to really highlight how out of touch they really are. To where they were Googling and doing Google Translate for all the things that I was asking them. I just want you to be aware and also make everybody else aware of this particular page. Now, it may not be Mike's pinball machines. It might be Scott's pinball machines. But I want to give you as much awareness as I possibly can because I talked to a couple of other people in my same group, and they said they were reached out either by the same individual or at least the same opening message. So let me give you that. So the first message will be something around like this. Hey Kerry, I hope you're doing well. Sorry for texting you directly. I was wondering if you are a fan of pinball machine games. Immediately I was like, scammer. But I've got nothing else better to do at the time. Let's have a little chat back and forth. And so basically I was just trying to waste his time because he's not trying to waste my time. And that's something I really want to hammer home to a lot of you out there. these people do not care about you they don't care if you get a game or anything the thing is they're not even going to get to the point of trying to take the money for a game that's not what they're after they're after that quick couple of hundred bucks if not just a little more by wanting you to pay for the shipping or whatever up front they're gonna request information so they can register the game to you and the information is very basic your name your phone number email address shipping address and then the game will be registered to you now i gave all this information to them but it wasn't legitimate the address went to the dallas comedy club the phone number was from a scammer that tried to call me earlier that day the name was john smith even though he's got my name literally right here on messenger the email address was i'm wasting your time at lol.com i tried to make it as obvious as i could but he just kept on coming with it okay so how would you like to make your payment and everything and so yeah i was like okay well yeah how are we going to do this like oh then it finally got to the point to where i'm like good so it's going to be 500 bucks i need to do something with the cashier's check because something's wrong with their paypal account at this point in time. Bunch of bogus crap.

Cary Hardy anticipates being banned from the Pinball Enthusiasts page for his public criticism of the admin in this video.

medium confidence · Cary Hardy statement that he will 'more than likely' be banned tomorrow due to repeatedly calling the admin 'little bitch' in the video.

  • The scam operation requests basic personal information (name, phone, email, address) under the guise of registering a game, with the intent to request upfront payment via cashier's check due to fake PayPal account issues.

    high confidence · Cary Hardy direct experience with the scammers, in which he deliberately provided false information to expose their methods.

  • Mike's Pinball Machinesorganization
    Tales of the Arabian Nightsgame
    ?

    content_signal: Cary Hardy producing high-visibility YouTube content calling out admin misconduct and scam operations, expected to reignite community discussion and potentially trigger further retaliation (banning) from the admin.

    high · Hardy explicitly states he expects to be banned for this video; deliberately repeats criticism of admin ('little bitch') multiple times knowing it may trigger action.

  • ?

    community_signal: Visible fracturing of pinball community on Facebook with creation of rival groups and migration of content creators and members away from original Pinball Enthusiasts due to loss of confidence in admin.

    high · Pinball Enthusiasts 2.0 group created; Cary Hardy encourages migration; Keith Stanton's post framed as documenting the incident for accountability.

  • ?

    operational_signal: Legitimate community-trusted seller (Jeff Miller/Pinball Pimp) suffered reputation damage via false public accusation to 28,000 members, then recovered through community defense and co-admin intervention.

    high · Jeff's reinstatement post received 700+ likes and 127 comments of positive support; community rallied to defend him once facts clarified.

  • ?

    community_signal: Scam operation using Facebook Messenger for cold outreach targeting pinball community members, with coordinated messaging templates and possible international coordination (India-based per Hardy's assessment).

    medium · Multiple community members received identical or near-identical opening messages; scammers used Google Translate and appeared to be coordinating from a single location.

  • 4:02
    Let me just be clear as I possibly can. Spread the word to everybody about this page but at least make people aware to not trust pinball distributors that are contacting you out of the blue on facebook messenger or something like that they don do that a reputable distributor distributor will not randomly reach out to people to buy pinball machines they don't do that there's a list of all the reputable certified dealers for like stern pinball on stern pinball's website as well as many people in this hobby or industry that can give you dozens i say dozens a couple of different distributors that have treated them accordingly ask around anybody can give you a legitimate distros name and then that's how you get a hold of them not like this so but by all means feel free to go to this particular facebook page and report them for a scam or fraud i also see that they have 488 friends 71 of those are mutual people um so if you're friends with this you might want to unfriend them i'm about to do it now my last message to them i will give you that so here is my last message to them after the whole issue i'm like by the way if it isn't already obvious i knew you were a scammer from the very first message i was bored and played along i had you guys translating and looking up machine images for nothing you answered so many questions wrong and that only highlighted how ignorant you are to the industry. Your page has already been reported for fraud and I will be making an announcement to the industry very soon to keep people informed about what you are doing. I really hope you come to realize how pathetic you are to dedicate so much time into stealing people's money. I honestly feel the world would be a better place if you just slit your wrists. One less cowardly asshole in the world. Now I know, Kerry, it got really dark right there at the end, but yes, I just don't have much patience for these kinds of people because in the end they don't care about you all they want is your money for literally nothing they provide no service or anything merely just a promise and trust me there's a whole dialogue about how they're all about customer service obviously copy and paste it from some other kind of hr lingo but that's pretty much all i need to talk about that let me unfriend this person as i speak yes i know there so by all means visit mike's pinball machines facebook page and report them for scam or fraud now on to the pinball drama that started earlier this morning for those of you that are on facebook and you're into pinball chances are you're a part of the group Pinball Enthusiasts. There are over 28,000 members of this particular Facebook page. Now, it all started literally like early this morning because one of the two admins of this page had an issue with one of the very well-known person in this industry. And this particular admin i'm not gonna give you his name i'm merely you know what let's just call him little bitch because that's what he is and the chances are after this video goes public it'll get shared to him and then i'll get banned from pinball enthusiasts which highlights even further how much of a little bitch he is so let's move on this is what happened now like i said this is gonna have to be from memory because he's already backtracked and deleted these messages there's a little bit left over from images of screenshots but how it went little bitch posted this morning that hey i got screwed over by pinball pimp also known as jeff miller on ebay like and started stating how he reached out to him and he didn respond tried emailing and never got a response back and so basically he decides that he going to ban jeff from pinball enthusiast page and he's blasting this on a page to over 28 000 people smearing this individual who makes money by selling you probably know of you if you have purchased like stencils for your older Valley Games.
    8:57
    You probably bought it from Pinball Pimp. So, that starts. And then, of course, you have people that know Jeff that start chiming in and trying to defend him. Like, even being inquisitive kind of thing. Like, are you sure? Have you tried reaching out to him? Kind of thing. And the people that started to defend him, the little bitch starts banning those people.
    9:24
    And it's like, okay, you've already overreached your admin abilities by banning somebody who you believe has done you wrong on a completely different platform.
    9:39
    Now you're going to use your admin abilities to start banning people that are for the individual that you have banned because he allegedly did something. Here's the funny thing, guys. Jeff Miller, pinball pimp, he did nothing wrong. The individual's name on eBay, although said pinball pimp, it wasn't Jeff Miller, pinball pimp. It was somebody else, more than likely a scammer. Doesn't matter who they were. It wasn't actually Jeff Miller, the pinball pimp. So unbeknownst to Jeff, he wakes up this morning and is like, what's going on? kind of thing with all the people messaging him wondering why he did this and why he's no longer so it's like what the hell's going on and so what's and i'm trying let me see if i can find some of the screenshots of what little bitch was saying to people i'm sure there are screenshots in the comments but this got a lot of traction this morning guys uh someone named keith stanton posted this today it says pinball enthusiast earlier today a valuable member of our pinball community was falsely accused of inappropriate action on ebay by admin here little bitch he had a bad interaction and mistook jeff miller as the pinball pimp on ebay jeff seller id on ebay is jet c69 jeff has been in the tampa florida for over 30 years he may have bought his stencil kits for a restoration project seen his booth at tpf or expo for his restoration videos on youtube channel The pinball pimp on eBay is someone else located in St. Simons, Georgia. Jim removed Jeff from this page. EM Pinball and Pinball Classifieds. Because, evidently, Little Bitch is the admin of multiple pinball Facebook pages. Not just the one biggest one that you've ever had or seen, but multiples.
    11:41
    And I'll dig a little deeper into that. Let me finish this. after jim has had a chance to verify the facts i'm relaying i'm sure he will correct the matter thanks for your support so he has an image here that basically points out you know the different ebay sellers and stuff but uh then we have later on the other admin bill reinstated jeff now i reached out to jeff for comment on this i'm like hey did did little bitch happen to um like apologize and do you think he did no he didn't even apologize for his actions and this is where and why i'm calling this man little bitch because more than likely this is the type of this is the type of person guys that is the absolute worst to have power this is the kind of person that was a little bitch in school that got picked on And now the individual older and now they got some sort of sense of power over a social media Facebook page And now they feel like this is the chance for them to feel powerful over everybody. If you don't agree with what I say or agree with this, then, ha, banhammer, out with you. Oh, you don't like this? Out with you. And this gives him some sense of power? This gives you power over me? So, like I said, chances are I'm going to get banned more than likely here very soon for calling him little bitch over and over again. But due to your actions, little bitch, by not even apologizing, making a public statement because you literally smeared this man's name on a very public forum and didn't have the balls to apologize, at least bare minimum. to the 28,000 people that you tried to influence to say that this person screwed you over on more than likely a very small purchase. And it wouldn't surprise me if it was a small purchase. And you're just really, ooh, I don't know you. I don't personally know you. But I feel like just by the actions, yeah, that's probably something that you would do. And of course, everything's back to good. Bill, the other admin, reinstated Jeff back into Pinball Enthusiast page. And what's crazy is the amount of support and the likes and the positive comments that went in towards Jeff for being back on literally just a social media Facebook page about pinball. But I think why this got so much attention was the nature of it. And people are well aware that this admin really stretched his abilities way too far and is completely in the wrong on this.
    14:43
    And he's going to be a little bitch and not post a public apology or anything. And has banned multiple people because these people have tried to defend Jeff and have stated their comments. They have made a comment that this admin doesn't like, so therefore, since he's the admin and a little bitch, he's going to do the ban hammer on everybody. If you go through the rules of the Pinball Enthusiast page, he's not banning people for breaking the rules. He's banning people because they're saying things that he doesn't like. And so due to the nature of this, there is another Pinball Enthusiast page called Pinball Enthusiast 2.0 that has started on Facebook. I would encourage you guys to join that one. And maybe over time, we'll segue into a pinball enthusiast page that isn't guarded by an old, magrudging little bitch. So, there it is. Chances are, that's where I'm going to be primarily posting or sharing things or talking with people. Because, like I said, I'll be banned more than likely tomorrow due to the nature of calling Jim little bitch over and over again. but I think I'm going to digress on this now I mean check this out got over 700 likes 127 comments of course I loved it because you know this is basically Jeff saying he's back the real pinball pimp and just has his links accordingly right here to purchase things but the amount of support is enough right here and again the admin that started this whole thing could have at least apologized but he didn't he merely is covering his tracks, deleting posts that show how much of a little bitch he is and just hoping that people will eventually forget about it so, that's one of the reasons why I'm making this video it's going to stir it up again and he's going to think that he's just going to get away with being a little bitch. No. Not going to happen. See you around, guys. More than likely on Pinball Enthusiast 2.0. I'll catch you in the next one.