DPP #67 "There's a problem at the Punny Factory!"

Don's Pinball Podcast (regular feed)·podcast_episode·27m 25s·held·Sep 8, 2023

Analysis

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TL;DR

DPP #67: Punny Factory review + emerging boutique game pipeline tease ahead of Expo

Summary

Don Garrison reviews the Punny Factory from Pinball Adventures after an exclusive first play at Quarter Up Bar Arcade, offering detailed gameplay and design analysis. He also covers emerging manufacturers (Road Trip, Mystery Pinball Company, HomePan's Spinal Tap) teasing new games ahead of Pinball Expo, discusses Venom (Pro) production and Foo Fighters marketing, and explores the boutique pinball launch playbook used by successful startups.

Key Claims

Punny Factory is priced at $6,500 including shipping from Canada and has a planned edition size of 150 units
high confidence · Don Garrison, speaking directly from interview with Andrew McBain at Pinball Adventures
Venom (Pro) machines are currently in production and should start appearing on location within days
high confidence · Don Garrison, reporting production status from his contacts
Tilt Bob created a homebrew game called Elf that won Twippy for best homebrew last year
high confidence · Don Garrison, providing background on Tilt Bob before Road Trip announcement
HomePan's Spinal Tap shipped units but the game has minimal code with issues like ramps that do nothing when hit
medium confidence · Don Garrison, citing third-hand reports from UK Pinball Festival and Australian podcast interviews
Punny Factory currently has 1,300 plays logged on the demo unit at Quarter Up Bar Arcade
high confidence · Don Garrison, observing play count during his session
Pinball Adventures plans to build their next game concurrently with Punny Factory production
high confidence · Don Garrison, from discussions with Andrew McBain
The Mystery Pinball Company (teaser post Labor Day) has been emailing content creators and teasing a backbox with reflective LCD showing wireforms and ramps
medium confidence · Don Garrison, reporting on teaser images and email outreach
Stern released a making-of video for Foo Fighters designed by Jack Danger
high confidence · Don Garrison, reporting on official Stern marketing content

Notable Quotes

“It's kind of the war of the boutiques. Let's see what's happening.”
Don Garrison @ mid-episode — Framing emerging manufacturers as a competitive tier entering the market
“You hit the stand-up targets, you unlock the punny press, and then go in there to either start a mode or to press a punny, of which you're trying to collect 50 of the things.”
Don Garrison @ Punny Factory code review — Describing the core mechanic he found repetitive and 'wood choppy'
“There's not 5,000 of these things being made and trying to be sold. The edition size is 150, and they may not make all 150, and that's okay.”
Don Garrison @ Punny Factory context discussion — Setting realistic expectations for boutique manufacturer scale vs mass producers
“If you already have a pretty diverse game room of things and you wouldn't mind something a little eclectic, I think this would fit into it.”
Don Garrison @ Punny Factory target market analysis — Positioning Punny Factory as a niche product rather than mainstream replacement
“It was fun to shoot, but I guess it comes down to who is this game for?”
Don Garrison @ Punny Factory conclusion — Capturing the central tension in evaluating a boutique title against established competitors
“Those are games that, although Punny Factory shots felt good, Keith Elwin designed Iron Maiden, right? It's got a kicking soundtrack and awesome animations and theme integration and pretty deep code.”
Don Garrison @ Price/value comparison section — Acknowledging Punny Factory's strengths while highlighting why it can't compete with premium Stern Pro offerings
“I'm a wireform guy. I like my wire ramps. I like my vehicles and tracks.”
Don Garrison @ Mystery Pinball Company teaser discussion — Revealing his personal design preferences in reaction to teaser imagery
“It didn't have that typical four buttons on the coin door that we're all used to.”

Entities

Don Garrisonperson Andrew McBainpersonTilt BobpersonDave Sandersperson Jack Dangerperson Keith ElwinpersonJeffperson

Signals

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product_launch: Punny Factory from Pinball Adventures is first commercial game; ~11 shipped as of podcast date; 150 unit edition target; demo touring through Ohio locations
high · Direct reporting from developer Andrew McBain; visible demo unit at Quarter Up Arcade with 1,300 plays logged
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design_innovation: Punny Factory introduces novel cabinet design features: engraved Baltic birch plywood, full interior graphics coverage, side-facing backbox speakers with routed wood sound channels, roller-wheel playfield lift system, integrated service rails under playfield
high · Don Garrison's detailed hands-on inspection of engraved edition; comparison to standard Stern cabinet ergonomics
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gameplay_signal: Punny Factory code criticized as shallow: 50-press grind requirement for progression, minimal mode variety, Vuck shot lacks protection, ball ejection bounce-back issue requiring code patch
high · Don Garrison's gameplay critique: 'most wood choppy of wood choppy things'; ball drain bug observed during stream; comparison to Stern Pro complexity
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product_concern: Punny Factory demo unit exhibited multiple issues: very target stuck in back, flipper misalignment, ball ejection bounce-back (code fixable). Don attributes some to normal wear (1,300 plays) and suggests fixes are in progress.
high · Direct observation during first play review; Don noted flipper rebuild likely needed; code update mentioned as fix
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market_signal: Punny Factory $6,500 prices it directly against Stern Pro tier (TMNT Pro, Iron Maiden) despite lower feature complexity; creator acknowledges niche positioning and that most buyers should choose Stern instead

Transcript

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once again it is time don's garrison's pinball podcast episode number 67 coming to you we've got an exclusive first play review of the punny factory from location and it was on stream a scattering of other news and information including the mystery pinball company what let's go

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What's going on, everybody? Coming to you in from your Thursday. Man, I back out here on the road. Recently came back from Quarter Up Arcade, where I got to play exclusively Pony Factory. And I have so many news and views on this. A quick recap that I'll get to in a minute. But we've got some other information, too, to go to. Like, as this week has been going on, we've been getting these little nugget drops. Not any of the heavy hitters from the big companies, but, man, wouldn't you know that, you know, people like Tilt Bob are dropping teaser information now. I think this is all part of the road and the lead-up to Pinball Expo, where we're going to get to see more and more of these games and accessories and things released. I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of that in the coming weeks or so. So let's start with a trip through our buddy Jason Knapp's arcade site, where he went ahead and shared this teaser picture of Road Trip. And, man, it's a pretty juicy look up the skirt here of this game. So we can see, like, the bottom half of the play field in this photo shot here. And so we get an idea of, you know, the theme here and some of the integration of what's going to be on there as well as the art. And, you know, what I don't know is really any other information about this. Now you can go check this picture out yourself. On first glance, you know, there's no real ball guides or anything. the whole bottom pop situation. Slings are not even in place to see what kind of in-lane activity we're going to have going on. But you get an idea of some inserts. And there's a big hole in the middle of the lower third of the play field. Is that for like an LCD screen to drop in? It's kind of shaped like that. Looking at the art, though, and the roads that are drawn around here for this pinball machine themed after a fun road trip, hopefully there's a stand-up target where you can get some Funyuns or something and a convenience store to shoot. but it looks to me like, you know, those little rollout carpets that you give to toddlers when they're playing with the little matchbox cars and already has like all the streets and roads on them. I say toddlers, like I don't have one at home that I'm playing with also. But that's kind of what like this thing looked like at first to me, you know? So I don't know if this is like a first draft of the art. I don't know if this is final art. We don't have that information yet, but good old Tilt Bob down there in what I believe is Florida. Cool guy. This is the guy that home brewed elf you know won twippy for best homebrew last year met the guy played his game seems like a you know solid dude and everything so you know with these companies you know when they come out they have to release their one game right the game that they put together first the proof of concept you know let's you get something out there you know for tilt bob it's road trip for mystery pinball company who knows what it's going to be uh for spooky pinball it was uh america's most taunted, you know, an original theme. So they weren't, you know, tied down with licensing or, or having to meet deadlines or anything, but it was the machine that was, you know, the proof of concept, you make about a hundred of them, you sell what you can sell, and then you use that experience to build and go forward. And, you know, Spooky took it and just took off with it. Right. So I think that's the model these guys are looking to, to, to go after, you know, it takes some time to set up a, a factory and production. And, you know, there's things in pinball that you're not going to learn, especially with pinball manufacturing, that you can't learn any other way except by doing. You know, I've been in talks with Andrew McBain at Pinball Adventures. You know, he's successfully getting his first game out there. I was talking to him, you know, and he's planning on, you know, doing an edition size of 150 punty factories. I'll get to my review on that and my thoughts later. But, yeah, just talking to him, it's interesting to hear. And maybe I should have him on again to really kind of go into it now that they're later in production. But it's interesting to hear about the sort of issues that just come up that you never would have thought of, you know. Like, you know, when it comes to, you know, a certain screw or bolt or some component that's maybe a little hard to source. Or, like, that's your limiting reagent as far as making this machine, you know. Lamination issues, you know. We put screws in this area and then found out six steps down the line that they're causing a problem and needs to be redesigned. You know, things like that are interesting. So Tilt Bob's got a new game coming out. Road trip. We don't know when it's going to come out. I imagine we'll know more by Expo, though. And just, you know, all we have really is a first look at the art. No idea about the rules. I can see there's three stand-up targets. Who doesn't like those? You know, so that's interesting. This mystery company, though, the exclamation point company that I've been calling it, the dude that's been going around teasing, you know, like, hey, there's something new coming, you know. And he was at Texas Pinball Festival dropping off these mysterious exclamation point stickers. I saw one show up at Electric Bat Arcade just chilling there, so he's got operatives out there. Well, now dude is emailing folks in the content community, and even Nap Arcade had a little post about it. We got a teaser pic of a back box, and initially when I scrolled through here, I was like, okay, great. There's components in a back box that mean absolutely nothing to me. That's interesting. But what people have been noticing is the reflection in the LCD panel actually shows some of the gameplay field here. And some of it was obscured a little bit, you know, in post-editing. But there's some ramps, there's some wireforms in there. So, I mean, that's always exciting, right? I'm a wireform guy. I like my wire ramps. I like my vehicles and tracks. And so, you know, I'm curious to hear more about this. It's too early to comment, but there are a lot of components in this game. So we'll look and see if we can hear some more. Dude even emailed me and said, you know, more to come. So we'll see. What was this teaser post? Now that Labor Day is over, the work begins. All right, all right. And then there's another picture of a bunch of lockdown bars in a powder coating factory that have this kind of almost like a raisin purple powder coat that's on here. So we'll see what ends up coming out. I don't have any other information other than that. But, you know, it's interesting that we are having even more confirmation that some new game is going to be released by some company at some point. how about that for nailing down all the details what else is going on home pin has created a game also uh spinal tap it's it's wrapped up and they're shipping them out how many they're shipping who they shipping them to who in the heck really even knows what a bombshell interview from that australian pinball podcast where they had the dude on there and you know his like on one hand disdain for the United States On the other hand he planning on going to Expo So I don know I just going to be a casual observer in that show and see what going on So there was just a pin fest in the U.K., and I guess there was a spinal tap that was on location. And now I've only heard, you know, like third-hand mutterings about how this thing played. But, you know, apparently the shots weren't terrible, but, like, the code was just – there's, like, no code, right? Like you hit ramps and nothing really happens. So we're going to take a big wait and see there. You know, but it is interesting to see these companies like follow the same kind of course that we saw with Spooky, right? You know, come out with 100 to 150 games, do an original theme so you're not tied up with marketing and licensing, get it out there, and then use the proceeds to go on and go forward. So, you know, I've been doing discussions with Pinball Adventures there, and, you know, they're very happy with, you know, the amount of games that they've made. They've already kind of exceeded their goals, and they're already on to their next game. which they can build concurrently with Punny Factory. I'm going to save that here for a little bit. You know, but it's interesting to see, you know, like, are these companies going to launch or fail based on this? You know, I guess it's kind of neat to look back and see what we've seen. You know, Haggis is on their third game now. You know, I don't know that their production numbers ever hit, you know, major goals. They seem to be just kind of doing their own thing at their own pace. You know, but their first game was Celts. You know, America's Most Haunted was a first from Spooky. Punny Factory is the first from Pinball Adventures. It's kind of the war of the boutiques. Let's see what's happening. There is a huge step, though, that separates companies with big ideas and big expectations that end up totally fizzling out, hashtag deep root, and then companies like the ones that we're seeing that are actually successfully getting games out. So maybe this mystery company and Tilt Bob will be the next kind of pinball adventure boutique. I'm encouraged to see what they come out with. I want to see the creativity behind what they have. They're not going to make a game that's going to compete with Iron Maiden or Jurassic Park or something from Stern. But can you have something that's serviceable and fun to play and show like, okay, you guys can get this done. Let's see what you have next, right? So I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with that. Speaking of Stern, let's transition to Big Daddy Stern and the big new factory.

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Production update-wise, I know Venoms are on the line. Venoms are being shipped out. Venoms should be on location. Heck, this weekend I would expect they'll start showing up. I'll be driving through October or October. I'll be driving through Chicago again here in a couple of days. Maybe there'll be one on location there already. We'll check out with Interium. But I would expect to see them soon. Also interesting is Stern News. They released the making of video for the Foo Fighters. Stern's Foo Fighters, Jack Danger's Danger Post-loving cross-shot having alien terrestrial incumbent United States prisoner area 51 having shooting fun pinball machine game. They got that little featurette video out there, and those are always interesting for me to see. You know, when I came across them first, you know, a couple months ago, I just sat there and binge-watched all of them. And, you know, they create a lot of interest in these games that I wasn't really following before. Like, I appreciated Munsters and A Whole New Light after watching their making-of video. I think these things are cool. I'd wish they'd come out a little closer to, you know, when the games release. But, you know, it's out there. Go check it out on YouTube. More Jack Danger is always what the world needs. All right, let's transition once more, and let me tell you a little story about a game called Putty Factory. So this was the premier release from Pinball Adventures. Canada's own Andrew McBain and his company put together this machine and put it out. Now, it's probably a theme that nobody, including the world, was really asking for, but this dude obviously felt passionate about it. Dave Sanders did the design for the shots and everything. So, I mean, how is it, right? So far, I think they've released or shipped out about 11 or so of these machines, and you haven't heard a whole lot about them just because there's not a whole lot of them out there. But Jeff from Mad Pinball, my distro of choice, he got one of these, and he's been touring it around northeastern Ohio, different arcades, and currently it's at Quarter Up Arcade in Akron. You can go and play this thing, dollar play, and see how it is. So I showed up over there after driving from Wisconsin for 10 hours to go play me some Pony Factory and hang out with my boy Jeff and maybe get a hot dog at the bar. So, yeah, it is very much a pinball machine. I will say that. You know, 0-10 rating, maybe we'll get to that in a second. But let's break this thing down. I went there. I played a game on it with Jeff. Went ahead and set up my streaming equipment, took the glass off, and then they just kind of, like, let me go for a full hour. So I streamed this game in, you know, bar Wi-Fi, and it's up there. There's a one-hour stream of me playing the heck out of some Pony Factory. Now, the game that I was playing was not without some issues, but what I'd like to do is kind of systematically kind of go down, you know, through layout, through shots and everything, and kind of, you know, rank it that way. So the first thing I noticed was that, you know, hitting the shots themselves felt pretty good. I mean, you know, the game shoots well. Any shot that I wanted to make, I was able to make, and if I didn't, it was more due to my own skill level than feeling cheated by the machine, you know. There wasn't an instance of me hitting a stand-up target and then flying over the flippers, for instance, or me hitting what I thought would be a good shot up a ramp, and there just wasn't enough oomph to get up there. I didn't feel that kind of rejection. Part of that may be because there's no ramps in the game, right? It's a fairly simple layout. Left to right, there's kind of two orbit shots that go up into locking gates, three roll-in targets, three pop bumpers, and then the big toy in the middle is the punty press. There's a very target that's over there between the orbit and the pop bumper nest on the left side. And there's three stand-up targets, one in front of the punny press and one on either side of it. And then there's about 14 other stand-up targets spelling out punny factory on the left and right sides of the playfields. And that's about it. There is, well, I guess there is technically one ramp because there is a Vuck in the punny press up through this little cool transparent tube that feeds over to this little zigzaggy ramp that feeds the right flipper. So, yeah, that's essentially the game. As you play it, you know, the code-wise, you hit the stand-up targets, you unlock the punny press, and then go in there to either start a mode or to press a punny, of which you're trying to collect 50 of the things. So for shots, I think the shots are fine. They feel good. You know, so that speaks to Dave Sanders' design. You know, he used CAD or whatever to design this, so the shots are set up where they feel fair, you know, and it was actually a fairly fun game to shoot. I liked the feel of the very target when it was working. As I was playing, it eventually did get stuck in the back, and I had to lift the play field to get it unstuck. But then I played a game afterwards and it was working fine again So know so that is the shots Now the layout is fairly simple You know it a single level game with one Vuck that goes over to a ramp that feeds the flipper but that really it You know, there's no big, you know, plastic ramps to an upper play field or anything like that. Because of the locking gates up at the top, you don't really even get a full orbit shot. It half orbits up into the middle there. It would have been nice to see that unlock. I did share some of these thoughts with the creative team who is hard at work on their next machine, and they will implement these design tips. You know, so as far as the shots, they felt good. The layout, you know, it's not, you know, it's not Iron Maiden, right? There's not wire form ramps crisscrossing everywhere. I think that definitely would have added to, you know, the fun of the game for me. So, you know, it comes in, you know, with kind of a mid-moderate grade, you know, as far as that. Let's see, what else can we talk about? Okay, so innovation-wise, there are some new things with this machine, some other things that hadn't occurred to me. I was playing the engraved edition, of which there were only ten of these made. They have that Baltic birch plywood, and it's actually, like, routed and engraved in the side, and then has, like, this epoxy kind of dark purple clear coating, like, black, smoky black, kind of almost purplish clear coat that's on it. And looking at the cabinet, I mean, the plywood they're using is absolutely top shelf. Like this would be cabinet quality stuff, you know, like probably the best kind of plywood you could build, you know, furniture and things out of. And so, you know, it was glossy. It was fun to touch it. It was fun to look at it just from a woodworking perspective. In the back box, there aren't speakers that are facing out through a metal grill like we're used to. They actually face sideways. And then there's a groove routed into the wood itself that then emanates out towards the player from the back box edges, which was innovative. You know, I didn't have a problem with the sound itself. I was playing in a noisy bar, so it was a little bit hard to hear, like, a lot of the music. But the call-outs and sound effects were coming through. So I would like to, you know, play that in, you know, kind of a quiet, controlled environment to really get, like, the feel. Because I feel like that wood would really resonate the sound. You know, so there was some innovation there. The entirety, okay, and not just the sidewalls. I mean, the entirety of the inside of the cabinet has graphics on it, okay? You know, not just art blades up on the top, the visible part. It goes all the way down to the bottom of the cabinet. And then the bottom of the cabinet, I'm talking about where the bass speaker is. That whole thing has graphics on it. So the whole thing has, like, factory-looking graphics or warehouse graphics inside. Like, you lift the play field, and the graphics go all the way down. Why did they do that? I have no idea. Is it cool? Heck, yes, it is. Now I'm jealous, and I want my whole Iron Maiden inside of a cabinet to have graphics in it for crying out loud. What the heck? Like, you know, something that, you know, I didn't know I wanted until I saw it. And, you know, it serves no functional purpose other than just be, like, kind of cool when you lift the play field, you know. So I don't know if I can award any, like, extra bonus points there. I mean, it doesn't make up for the lack of wire forms of the gameplay. But it was pretty dang interesting. Another innovation that was touted early on in the teaser videos for this was these roller wheels on the guides for the play field, like when you lift it up and pull it out. And, you know, I was like, okay, is this, you know, really a solution in search of a problem? But when I lifted the field, it was really nice to have it come up and just glide back and forth. You know, you didn't have to do that slide and kerchunk that you do with, like, you know, the Stern games and such, where you have to kind of chunk them back into place and pop them forward to get to the different service positions. It was interesting having to just kind of roll and glide like a nice cabinet. So, you know, after all, these things are in pinball cabinets. why not implement some of the innovations and things that we see with regular cabinetry, right? Let's make it a little easier so we're not just pinching fingers and such. Speaking of that, the bottom of the play field itself has these big rails on it. So instead of just the service rails that you're used to, there's rails that run like the length of the play field underneath, or at least, you know, side to side, to the point that you could actually take the play field out and set it down just on its own because it could be supported by its own brackets. I thought that was cool. So, you know, you can look at Punny Factory and see that this is a fairly simple game. Stand-up targets, three drop targets, no big ramps, you know, one Vuck, and a theme that's, you know, questionable on, like, whose dream theme was this besides the creator. But when you take a step further and, like, look at what they've created and some things that they've implemented, it's a good first attempt. It's a good proof of concept of a game. Let me make sure I covered everything. Oh, let's talk about the sculpts and things that are in there. So the big, you know, main mechanism is the punny press that's in the middle there. You know, you shoot the drop targets and side targets to activate it, and then the insert will flash, and you shoot in there for the buck, and that's how you press a punny, right? Now, you'll get the code in a minute, but the actual press itself, the building, you know, feels like a good, you know, it's like resin molded. Like they created a silicone mold, and then they poured these things individually. so it's not just a 3D printed machine thing that you would see from just somebody's homebrew, like my own. I 3D print things all the time. But they actually made some sort of cast and cast poured this thing. The barrels that are also in the game as toys or sculpts, they're solid. I had the glass off. I was able to put my greasy fingers all over all this stuff, and then I cleaned them off afterwards. But they feel robust. They're not just simple 3D prints. I guess there's a couple of the boxes in the back that have slots in them so that the light can shine through. He said those were 3D prints, but they're all hydro dipped and they look to be of reasonable quality. So that was interesting. Art and animation. The animation, it didn't come from a major animation studio, I don't think. I think it's serviceable. It matches the theme. I'm not running back to play this game because of the animations, but there are animations there on the screen. The kind of cartoony sound effects were fun. you know, in a Scooby-Doo kind of way, you know, hitting pop bumpers and things and hearing the boings and the springs, you know, um, so it's, it's, it's serviceable. Um, now the code itself, right? So, um, there are some multi balls in here. I was able to play a few of the modes. Um, I didn't get enough time to really play it and get into understanding exactly what I'm supposed to be doing for all the modes. Um, but the fact that you have to, you know, qualify each press of the, the punny press in order to get a punny, and then you're supposed to do this 50 times is like the most wood choppy of wood choppy things I could possibly imagine. Um, you know, so that wasn't fun or engaging at all. I don't think I'm going to go through making 50 puns on this game in order to get to any kind of wizard mode. It was satisfying for me though, when I did get one, you know, because I did the shots, I hit all the standup targets, I qualified it, hit the press. Like it was still fun to hit the press. Um, you know, opportunities for improvement, uh you know the the press shot in the middle with the Vuck there no protection around it but I told going forward there will be scoop protectors So you know I could see that as a bonus

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There's a couple of practical things which were a little weird. When you open the coin door, there's like one button inside the cabinet that activates the menu. And then you have to use the flipper buttons and the start button to cycle through and select things. You know, so that was a little kind of counterintuitive. It didn't have that typical four buttons on the coin door that we're all used to. The volume control was on the amplifier in the middle of the cabinet, so you did have to reach in there to adjust the volume, which I did eventually. After I texted Andrew and he told me where the heck it was. But I'm told that they're looking at implementing easier ways to do that, and in fact, with their next game, they've already kind of implemented that anyway. We'll see that at Expo. So I guess all in all, this is a pinball machine. It came out from Pinball Adventures. If you want one, you can buy one and you can get one. So there's that. It was fun to shoot, but I guess it comes down to who is this game for? Should you buy Pony Factory? The nuts and bolts of this, the Pony Factory is $6,500, including shipping from Canada. It's made out of good birch plywood. It's got some innovative things in there. The shots feel good. The gameplay is not deep. And at that price point, you're kind of going right up against a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pro or use Iron Maiden. And those are games that, although Punny Factory's shots felt good, Keith Ellin designed Iron Maiden, right? It's got a kicking soundtrack and awesome animations and theme integration and pretty deep code and multiple shots and multiple flippers and all these things. So it's hard for that to compete. If you were to buy one machine, should you buy Punny Factory instead of one of the Stern Pros? For most people, that answer is going to be no. and I think that's okay. If you already have a pretty diverse game room of things and you wouldn't mind something a little eclectic, I think this would fit into it. Go try one out at the expos. Go try playing them. If you have a location and you already have all the latest Stern pros online, you want something different, especially if you have an arcade or a barcade that recruits more savvy pinball players that want to play things that are a little rare and obscure, this definitely fits that. So talking with Andrew, you know, he's already kind of, you know, met his goals as far as his first game. They've learned a lot by making it, and they're going to implement those changes in their next game and continue to get better. You know, but it's important to remember that with something like Pony Factory, there's not 5,000 of these things being made and trying to be sold. You know, the edition size is 150, and, you know, they may not make all 150, and that's okay. You know, they got the game out the door. It's functional. I think some of the issues that it was having, especially with one of the flippers that was misaligned on the right during the machine that I played, this game has also had 1,300 plays on it. So I think it was just due for a flipper adjustment, flipper rebuild. So I won't hold that against the designers of the game. But, yeah, what a quirky little title. That was fun to go and play. And I'm glad I got the opportunity to do it. So thanks, Jeff at Mad Pinball. Thanks to the folks at Angelique Stark Game Supply and the Quarter Up Arcade folks in Akron, Ohio. If you want to go check it out, it's still there on location. Also what they have, they recently had the electric pinball folks had their Godzilla topper that was on tour there. And one of their Twilight Zone toppers is also there on their Twilight Zone. So I got to check one of those out in person. So that was fun. The electric playground, right? The guys that make the toppers. I would like to talk to those guys more in the future. But yeah, I'll plug that little arcade. It was a cool place to hang out. It's a bar. It's 21 and over. Saturdays and Sundays. earlier in the day. It's all ages. But I was there on, what, like a Tuesday? And there was a little six-year-old running around with their parents, and no one seemed to mind. So make of that what you will. Moving on. Let's see. What else do I got? Oh, I got some fun stuff coming up. I've got a podcast that I'm going to appear on more about that soon, but that'll be hitting pretty soon. I'm going to be a guest on another podcast show. I'm very excited about that and can't wait to talk more about that. I have another interview I'm going to be doing with a pinball accessory maker that I'm extremely excited about. We'll have some new news for that. All of this is in the road to the lead-up to Pinball Expo. So thank you so much for listening. Gosh, we hit over 500 followers on the Facebook page. I'm exceedingly humbled by that. Thank you, everybody. I like the community that we're building and the fact that we're just, you know, having fun here in pinball, meeting a couple times every week, hanging out, you know, get your coffee, get your macchiato, get your cheeseburger in paradise, your margarita, find your La Chica or salt, and let's do this thing, man. And if you would like to have any of, you know, stuff from me, I love sending things out. People like getting stuff in the mail. I got stickers. I got T-shirts. If you're interested and you want to represent, you want to get some expo gear and wear, you want to throw stickers up in your local laundromat, you know, go ahead and e-mail me at donspinballpodcast at gmail.com, and I will get at you, and, you know, we'll figure out shipping and all that business. Otherwise, join the Facebook page. Throw a follow on there. We're dropping comments and things all the time. I've got a Discord available, and I'm streaming on YouTube. I might even get some Big Lebowski footage up like later tonight, we'll see We've come to the end of another episode Thank you so much for everybody for joining Don's Pinball Podcast at gmail.com I love reading your comments, I'm getting inundated and it's amazing Expo's going to be awesome, I'm going to be there with booths and events and there's going to be panel discussions and more pinball content that you can stomach my friends So all that and more is coming up soon Thanks for listening everybody and be sure to wash your britches. I don't know what I'm supposed to say at the end of these things. Let's fade out.