When my roommate comes into the room looking for his car keys, I don't say it yet. And when he gets me off the couch to check underneath the couch cushions, I don't say it yet. No. And then when he says out loud, I wonder where my car keys are, I still don't say it. I still don't say it yet. But then he asks me, do you know where my car keys are? I look at him in his face and I say Have you checked your bottle? Get up, got a bottle I have not seen your keys, but since you're asking me You better check up that bottle Because I'm not serious, I don't think he's up inside your big brown business But a funny thing to say to someone who's lost their shit and is stressed out visibly When I see the best man start to sweat I don't say it yet When I see that little ring bearer cut getting yelled at by his mum Oh, I still don't say it When I see the groom asking the vicar if they can wait just another 15 minutes I do not say it And when the father of the bride starts organising an ad hoc emu bob of the courtyard area I want to, but I do not say it. It's the 11th hour with 300 congregants under God's roof. The vicar approaches the mic and suddenly all of the chatter goes mute. He says that they've misplaced the rings. Could anyone possibly know where they are? I know it's my time and all heads turn as I stand and say, vicar. All right. The Poor Man's Pinball Podcast is sponsored by Flip N Out Pinball. 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Pin Chase! The revolutionary pinball glasses. I wear sunglasses at night. The revolutionary pinball glasses that help reduce glare and make it easier to track the ball. Enter poor man's with an S to receive free shipping. Oh yeah, it's time You've waited a week or more And now it's finally here The time has come for the sloppiest show on the internet This week's episode of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast Starring Drew and Ian That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over. I'm gonna need someone to help me. I'm gonna need somebody's help. Son of a bitch, give me a drink. One more night, I'll stand with me. Welcome to the 4-Man Spinball Podcast, episode number 103. The sloppiest show on the internet. You know it. You love it. Do you like my pageant wave? Yes, it's beautiful. Drew is pageant waving. I'm doing the Miss America pageant wave. He's beautiful. He's glorious. He looks like he just won a gold medal. what would be your olympic sport oh god drinking the belly flop hey thank you for wow we're starting early today tim you're usually like two minutes late on that so thank you for that um set his alarm this time i see we have uh thank you timmy we have flawless js in chat uh i was just curious who flawless js is so announce yourself sir or madam I thought FlawlessJS was Jay Sellers, but Jay Sellers is here, too. Yeah. He's flawless. Jay Sellers is a flawless man. One of them's got to be flawed, right? Uh-oh. Jay, you're the flawed one. Sorry. We have a problem, kids. You got to change your name to Flawed Jay Sellers. You are in trouble. Let's try it. Thanks, guys. So we got Kaz here. We got Rachel here. We got who else? Oh, Dr. John is in the house. we got uh cavaliers in the house uh orby is in the house drew me socket pinball but i bet he's rad at belly flops he is rad at belly flops we might do a few later uh oh flawless js is jeremy smith welcome jeremy smith i now i know who that is flawless that's so you're stretching it baby sorry jay sellers i still stand by my statement from earlier. So welcome, Jeremy Smith. Good to have you on board. We have a pretty awesome show today. Yeah. Some pinball. Some underwear. Yeah, for you guys who have been following our page, don't forget to follow our poor man's pinball fan page. Let's shoot the shit. How you been, man? Bits, I don't have to spend it deeper now. What did he say? Bits, I don't have to spend it deeper now. Yes. Thank you, Dr. John, for the bits. You can spend them here as often as you like. Interesting. Yeah, we'll talk about that, I suppose, a little bit. We will. My week was good, though. Yeah? Yeah. Did you do anything cool? What did I do this week? I worked a lot. It was actually a really busy week in a good way, but man. I wanted a pin bar. We all wanted a pin bar. We all wanted a pin bar. Kaneda said the coolest thing about Deep Root. He said they're like an icing company. They just don't make the cake. They're working on all this cool stuff. Except for the cake. Except for the cake. Yeah, it's so true. But, yeah, we all wanted a pin bar. But, yeah, so busy week at work, just nutty. And this week's going to be a lot better. I'm doing a lot of pinball stuff this week. So I'm pretty excited about that. And, yeah. So what about you, man? What's been occupying your time? Besides work, a lot of work this week. but um we went i took the wife out we saw um joe rogan went to the joe rogan oh how was that love joe rogan killer it was so good joe rogan is i know a lot of people like he's polarizing but man he's just entertaining yeah he had two warm-up acts that were just as funny as joe rogan was yes but i can't remember their names but regardless they were they were good they weren't like super it was tony something another and and and there's this laura girl from milwaukee who was really good very cool yeah but they were uh they were fantastic fucking fantastic and they uh it was funny because joe rogan you know it's it's it's obviously going to be taped for a netflix special a future netflix special yep but you know how they do those is you know he'll do 10 12 15 of those shows and they pick the best and then they'll splice it together with the the most laughter there's a whole good 45 minutes where he was kind of bombing a bit joe rogan was really all right maybe 45 minutes is extreme yeah it was probably going to be closer to 20 minutes of just bombing it got awkward for a little bit like two jokes really yeah the setup didn't really he was stuttering he was kind of fucking up his lines a bit wow i was sitting to myself i was like this fucking awkward i was like okay well this shit's not getting on netflix no shit but he finished strong yeah that is interesting though laughing our ass off joe rogan was killing it and you know what hey thanks for the subscription jeremy he might have you know he might have say you know other jokes in the pipeline that he might try at other places maybe if that joke doesn't well They got to try out their new material. Yeah, so they tried on Milwaukee. No shit. He was just intimidated by how awesome we were. But no, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. Anyone out there in chat, local, that went to the Joe Rogan show? Orbital Albert says, Joe Rogan is the only podcaster I listen to more religiously than Drew and Ian. Well, we appreciate that because Joe Rogan, he has a little bit higher ratings than we do, but just a couple. I haven't seen him since he's been on Spotify. I have been listening to them I don't have Spotify so it's hard to listen you can download it on your phone for free it's a thing so you take your phone and type in Spotify and you download it I have no idea what you're talking about right now Drew is trailing off into the mics I have no idea what's happening right now I'm just here alright should we open up the bar brother Let's do it, man. All right. A lot of cool stuff today. Come in. Grab a seat. The bar is open. All right. Well, thank you there. Listener number, what was that, two? Tribe member number two, Martin. Martin here? Oh, Martin's, yeah, we haven't seen Martin in a while. Thank you, Martin. So what you drinking, buddy? Today. What did I pour you? Or what did you pour yourself? what's this bad boy basil hayden's kentucky straight bourbon whiskey when basil hayden senior began distilling his smooth bourbon here in 1796 kentucky was but four years old and george washington was president today we make basil hayden's kentucky straight bourbon whiskey using the same skill and care that made it a favorite among america's frontier settlers that's not a real ringing endorsement we haven't changed shit since 1796 we still use the same we still use dirt yeah and and rocks i just hit it with my fist so so need the barley down but there you go basil hayden's what do you got buddy uh i am still trying to polish out the rest of this fireball so yeah just just keeping it simple nothing nothing crazy today a little fireball a little coke we'll see what happens you know i was watching those of you with netflix you guys got to start watching heist it's a three-part series and each part details a real life heist that people just stole an absolute shit ton of money and almost got away with it but that really and they all got caught and they're there to tell the tale about how they went from poor bastards to multi multi-millionaires to poor bastards but this uh Is this the basis of the P3 multimorphic game? No, but this is three different stories done really, really well. The third story revolves around a guy who works at a distillery. When does this take place? Well, there are three different stories that are different time periods. Different time periods. It's usually right around the 80s, 90s. And this guy in the early 2000s or whatever, before Pappy, the famous bourbon, Pappy of the Winkle. Pappy, you know what I'm talking about? I've heard that, yeah. Jesus Christ, I'm struggling here. We're just getting started, folks. The distillery that makes Pappy's, you know, for a while. My great uncle Pappy? That shit was like 40 bucks. And bottles were skyrocketing, and they were close to like four grand a bottle. So you're working there, and there's a bunch of Pappy Liner on. What's going to happen? It's going to go in your pocket. And all of a sudden... There's a bunch of Pappy Liner on. Again, this guy stole barrels and cases, but he stole more Eagle Rare. Where's Josh's secret? Oh, that was such a good episode. Yeah, yeah. Eagle Rare was part of the list of expensive bottles that he was stealing and selling. you know and this was in the early 2000s yes so all right very cool i'm checking out this will not be a total fucking friday episode we are going to talk some pinball what's on tap today fine we'll get we'll get right back to that don't worry and when i say that now we're just gonna get off the rails in five minutes anyways so if you guys are here for that just stay tuned uh tap today we got uh spooky gameplay reveal halloween and ultra man is that how you say it yeah there's no other way ultra man i'm pretty sure that's the theme we have some uh some tribe happenings uh we like to highlight some of our our tribe members and they do hey welcome cj and chris chandler is in chat welcome buddy uh a little little personal news i'll tell you what's going on in my pinball world. Ian will tell you what's going on in his pinball world. We have a little bit of a taste test which we teased a little earlier. Maybe some edible underwear. Yeah, we didn't tease it. We just straight up said it. We'll talk about our voting process and how it's skewed. How it fucked us over. I want a recount. Yeah, that wasn't even close for a recount. Did they use Dominion voting systems? Yeah, was there hanging chads? Too soon, too soon. And we'll talk about a certain price increase because it seems to be on everyone's lips and everybody's minds. So that's what we're going to do today. Cool. And you want to talk again about Steve going to JJP? He's in the news that I didn't mention. All right. But, yes, Steve Ritchie going to JJP. We will discuss that. So let's get right into it. Jack Rabbit. I voted for the underwear. Yeah. We know you did, Jackass. I mean, Jack Rabbit. Didn't you freaking start it, man? Yeah, we're going to have to change our voting process here a little bit. Why did I leave it to the people? We'll leave that for a little later. We'll discuss that all in a great way. This should be a dictatorship, goddammit, not a democracy. No shit. We control this shit, right? No, it's been taken over by a bunch of you guys. No, before I know it, I'm in a porn stop just thinking, goddammit, you Ari Jones. This is awkward as shit. Thanks, buddy. Cheers, Ari. You're going to have to tell a story about texting your wife from the porn store. All right. So, Tribe Happenings. Wait, Jackrabbit, who's going to wear the edible underwear? What do you think? I got two pairs. I'm doing belly flaps, so I'm going to be wearing the underwear. We got them on now, baby. We got to get it broken in and warmed up. Doing a little. Got to get them warmed up. A little shimmy. It's uncomfortable as shit. So gross. So for that part, kids maybe should not listen to us. And maybe no one should really be listening to us. Actually, I'm really hoping nobody. It's kind of like that South Park disclaimer. We're not safe for anybody. Yeah, please stop. Stop listening to us. Stephen Silver, did you buy Husky-sized edible undies? Yep, we went to the big and tall section, and we said, give us your biggest fruit roll-up that might cover my junk. The big and tall section at the porn store is different than what you think. It was there. It's a totally different thing. We should have brought our camera in there, and you and I should have went shopping. It would have been great. um okay tribe happenings uh rachel is in chat today she rachel is hosting the ladies flip wisconsin tournament saturday september 25th 11 a.m hosted by none other than another tribe member dave Jeff Brenner of american pinball nice so this is uh close to racine wisconsin so for you out of towners it's just south of milwaukee um north of illinois yep between it's it's smack dab between milwaukee and illinois dave has a amazing collection so uh for the women there's they're limited to 32 ladies the fee is 40 dollars uh ladies flip wisconsin sorry ladies flip wi at gmail.com so you can contact rachel so once again ladies flip wi at gmail.com uh 40 fee it will be streamed live on twitch turbo graphics 7 channel which is awesome another tribe member uh ryan kuiper so once again saturday september 25th rachel can you tell us if uh there's still spots available and ladies and gentlemen if you don't go for the pinball you have to at least go for rachel because she's an amazing person and she's super cool yeah guys and and this is like all these tournaments and stuff they're all for fun you know yeah there's some serious people at all these things, but go have a good time. Even if you never played, play a lot. Go have fun. Drew, let me stop you there. You know that everyone that listens to us is a serious pinball player. Yes. We skew. Serious. Borderline professional. I saw the numbers. Keith Elwin has us locked and loaded. He emails us every day. Speaking of which, we'll have to talk about the ESPN Stern Invitational as well. Do-do-do-do-do. Breaking news that's no longer breaking. Sorry, Rachel says there are spots that's half full. So 15, 16 spots still ready to go. If you guys want in, you ladies, get there. So, yeah, that's what Rachel's doing. I'm really proud of you, Rachel. You're doing some good things for pinball in general and moving it forward in a positive direction. So thank you for that. What a read-a-ville. What is the official rating of this show, PG, PG-13, R? no we're starting g it's no no one it's it's it's it's gonna start g general and then we're gonna skew to x what happens in the middle i have no idea i want all you guys to imagine your grandmothers right now okay would you prop your grandmother down in front of the computer right now to watch this happening in real time yeah i would i know you would i know my grandma Apple doesn't fall too far from the tree I would assume that most of you guys Ian's grandma is a rare awesome exception good recovery but yeah this is not a show for most grandmothers no it's a crazy surprise and Dr. Johnson's with a dildo yeah see we're already what's with the dildo thing? I don't know uh joking i know exactly what you're talking about so anyways uh check out uh rachel ladies flip wi gmail.com uh one more little tribe happening actually two more uh rachel and tim are still doing their tribe multiball and this week they had a special guest of himself tim lee so tim tim was hosting himself going deep in the barrel there Check it out. Good episodes. That one wasn't as good as the other ones. No, I'm just kidding. It was great. Tim Lee sucks at podcasting. Oh, my God. So great. Kidding, Tim. You guys are amazing. No, it's awesome. Rachel really steals the show, though. Stephen Silver says, rated NG, no grandmas. There you go. Worst episode yet, says Jaeger. I think he was talking about Tim Lee, not us. the night is young we can beat you out Tim don't worry Tim and Rachel are doing an amazing job it really is it brings a different flavor to the poor man's universe because they're actually doing real interviews with interesting people as opposed to Ian and I they talk pinball whatever this is very cool listen to them and then the last little piece here um i'm not going to get too much into it i just wanted to make a mention of it and i'm not going to get political but we're just going to have a quick little conversation okay so glenn Glenn Waechter of the poor man's pinball tribe fame tribe number number seven um he uh released a little psa of a podcast and put it on uh pinball network because they got it they got a little bit bigger reach than we do i think they have like five more listeners than we do it's close yeah it is close So they got out to five more people. But it was a little PSA, and it kind of wraps up with Rachel's thing here for Ladies Flip Wisconsin. And basically he was discussing about women's tournaments and why they're important and why some of the jokes and some of the sexism and some of the just, you know, basically treat people with respect. How's that? You know, all this stuff, like I said, we're not going to take a stance one way or the other, but we're just going to say you should treat everyone with respect. Don't be a douchebag. And that is the true poor man's message. Yeah, I think. You okay with that message? Yeah, I still think, like, you know, there's, how can I put this? It's like we go back to this. I think we talked about this in, like, one of our first episodes, believe it or not, just the awkwardness that is some people, and maybe they're not as social. Their social graces aren up to par They think this is the only way I can be funny so I say a bunch of just ridiculous things that I usually get somebody I just get reactions and I think that's good enough. That's interesting, but yeah. And maybe not, no disregard. Now, I'll tell you what, 39-year-old Ian knows when to shut his mouth. 22-year-old Ian, not so much, not so much. I grew up a lot, so I was probably saying a lot of dumb shit in my 20s. But when you get older and you just have to start to understand words affect people. They can affect people in positive ways, negative ways. Drew and I aren't taken seriously, and that's how we like it, because we're not serious about any of this. We just want to entertain and make sure that you guys are having fun with us this Monday night. But as far as insulting people, we try not to do that. as far as calling out people and you know play the the any kind of sexist stuff we try to stay away from that stuff if it's cringe worthy for me then i'm we won't touch it i slip every once in a while we all do we drink on the show and it gets dumb but um for the most part though i uh yeah no i feel i feel good about where we are um but i think that there's always a lot of room for improvement right there is and i just once again we can all be better we we always can and and i think once again it just goes back to respect you know same thing it would you say this in front of your grandmother yeah he's socially aware you know socially aware that's a that's actually socially aware man everyone love everyone and try not to be funny if you're not funny stop trying to be funny please for the love of god message but that's that's part of the problem though they think they're funny when they post stupid shit yeah they're not funny so yeah we just need to respect each other and uh um you know like i said what rachel's doing is great for the hobby in general and uh you know just let's support them yeah moving moving moving the hobby forward for everybody because you know we can we can all win that way so yep um anyways kid chris oh boy did i show up to the wrong show. Oh, hold on, dude. We're talking about editing over here. But yes, you did. He came in right as that PSA was starting. You know what's funny? We actually brought you up first, just before we started that. Just to make sure. We just wanted to make sure you were listening, Kid Chris-O. Tribe member. Tribe member Chris-O. We love you. Glad to see you again, buddy. Okay, so enough of the feel-y, feel-y good, whatever. We're back to our normal program. Did you upload it? I think so. We'll find out. Okay. So while we're still on Tribe Happenings, Glenn is creating once again. So we're going to play another song that Glenn came up with this last week. All right. I think this is going to work. Ready? Three, two, one. This is a song for all you poor man and tournament players. But Rachel, listen closely. You don't always have to play so hard In fact, sometimes that's not right to do Sometimes you've got a micro nudge And fucking trust in a rubber tube Sometimes you've got to ease Some tilts won't let you sneeze Sometimes you've got to play safe So I'm gonna nudge you softly. I'm gonna dead bounce sweetly. I'm gonna plunge you easily. I'm gonna flip with my pinkies. Then you say, hey, I went to counselors to try and help you deal with all this anger. But I plunged and got another house ball straight down the middle. That's fucking bullshit. So what's your favorite pin? That game is not cool. A crusty, steaming heaping pile of poo. What's this avatar? Cause I'm not gonna buy it because Louisville's got Zanzibar And then I'm gonna short plunge exclusively Flutter flip the flippers discreetly And then I'll use the fuck word repeatedly Cause when I drain, I'm gonna nudge you All right, so one thing. Only one thing? Well, two things. Glenn, again, you always make us feel so less talented, so we appreciate that, Glenn. beautiful voice so let's give him a big round of applause don't you think drew that's glenn Glenn Waechter tribe member number seven guys we love him uh the other thing i want to say is i want to apologize i had the zingy bingy thing still up you always do that that's it that's his thing that's the zingy bingy thing i don't know what i'm doing with that yeah for you guys We'll figure something else out. Yeah, that's cool. But I want to say one episode, I don't know when. I'm not going to put a timeline on it. I would like to see just a total clip show of all of our tribe members just submitting stuff. We could just run them back and forth for like an hour. Let's get some cheese slices up there for Glennie. Glenn gets at least 68 cheese slices and some rainbow Skittle farts. Rainbow Skittle. skittle taste the rainbow oh there they are rainbow skittle farts it's raining skittles hallelujah says glenn the skateboarder killed it yes yes he did every time man he's so goddamn talented and rachel that was for you i feel like that was kind of a love ballot towards you there it was it was prison pro one welcome to the show what up man i'm just got here been flipping raza and playing some stand-up arcade, Polybius. How do you say that, Polybius? Both great games, by the way. Yeah, I get the joke. I get it. I know. I'm glad you're out of prison. Very happy for you. All right, should we get into some pinball? Yeah, let's get into some real pinball stuff here. Glenn, thank you again, sir. Yeah, thanks, buddy. All right, so enough of all this kissy, feely good stuff. Let's just pinball stuff. So, Spooky. They did some gameplay reveal of Halloween and Ultraman. Any thoughts? Chat, what was your reaction to... I know you guys in chat were watching because people in chat, you guys are so crazy, and I know how much you guys love pinball, and I do too. I just want to know where you guys get all your time. Yeah. Because they're in chat. They're like, what time does this thing start today? It's coming up soon. They're announcing all their tribe member numbers. Yes. Yeah, very cool. So, yeah, I'm sure some of you guys see it. I, unfortunately, did not get to see it. I did not get to see it either. But I just think it's cool it got out into the world. And, you know, Spooky's killing it, man. Yeah, cut for Spooky. Right? I mean, you know, well, sure. They have all these games sold. Now they get to have some fun. I know they're working hard every day, but they get to have some fun, go to some shows, you know, show this off to the world. And they're going to be making games for the next 18 months again. Yeah, the best point was brought up by Kaneda, believe it or not. And it was Spooky and Sterner are the only two that have a schedule and they stick with it. Isn't that funny? Oh, shit. Like, no offense to Spooky, but if you would have said that like five years ago, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And now they've been at this, what, like seven, eight years, however long it's been? It's just so, I'm so proud of our guys. Yeah, they're just on it. Yeah. Great job, Spooky. We love you. And they keep biting off more, but they're able to chew it, right? Yep. So, you know, 750 last time. Now they got 1,750. So, yeah, good for you guys. so what else dr john looked better than i thought it did uh let's see here ultraman is greater than halloween agreed ultraman for the win ultraman is the best package ah jackrabbit his son and i got to flip ultraman in allentown they liked it a lot charlie coming to sfge next week southern friday gaming expo yes i heard distributors will uh still have some games left if you want a halloween or ultraman yeah guys that's been actually talked about a bit so if you guys really want them, I mean, they're not sold out, quote unquote. There's some sitting at distributors. They're sold out, quote unquote, but underneath the red. Well, the distributors bought them. So they're all spoken for. You can find them. Yeah. Go look. And people will start selling their spots, you know, if they don't want to wait. Absolutely. Nobody wants to wait a year and a half. No, no. Unless you're a real Ultraman fan. Or you're Chris. Yes, that guy too. All right, what else we got? uh we have uh i lost his name steve ritchie steve ritchie went to jjp now we talked about this last weekend now we didn't post the audio yet but that's why you tune in here right yeah you didn't post the audio i didn't get to listen to it oh i'm sorry guys we'll get there eventually post the audio uh uh sorry tim lee says he got about five minutes of it at Allentown, fell in love with it. Which one? Ultraman or Spooky? Halloween, you mean. Tim Lee. Was it Halloween? They had both there, though, didn't they? Tim Lee said he fell in love with Ultraman. Stephen Silver. Speaking of biting off more and chewing it, where are the panties? You guys need to settle down here because we will get to eating panties. There's still a show here. Can I say something? thing there's still a show we are the poor man's pinball sloppy show man we know we we have a we have a high we have like six things on our to-do list here and we only have two left so we're here we are trying going really fast here we are trying to talk about pinball and what do you guys want to talk about when are you going to eat ian's underwear jesus fucking christ what the fuck is happening here do you ever think Stephen Silver maybe these are really comfortable to wear and we just like it and maybe we want to have a real legitimate show about pinball do you guys ever think that maybe we want to be known for pinball if if pinball was this worldwide thing like phenomenon and like say a couple hundred years from now they would stumble across our podcast and they'd be like these were the jesters of american pinball the bad boys of pinball let's bring him back out of retirement oh my god pay him a pinball sale watch us eat time to eat them panties time to eat those panties thank you for the subscription Ari I remember this time he's the one that's freaking talking about the panties he wants the panties because it's his idea King Chris Ellis' game doesn't look all that great yeah I mean you know it's just like anything else you're gonna have to get in front of it and play it right right and see what it's all about but anyway Steve Ritchie's stupid video yeah screw you guys we're ignoring chat for a minute at least yeah Steve Ritchie walks in awkwardly kisses did he kiss him oh that was such a weird did you see that video they made out i think with uh you know steve and uh help me out who's the other pat lawler pat lawler they were going they were going down on each other Jesus Christ anyway someone was kissing someone there was some hugging I thought I saw someone grab someone's butt I don't know but then we we live in a world where okay I'm gonna live in a world where JJP makes one game every two years hang on I'm not there yet okay hang on so ian yes ian is a smart talented guy okay but but he's not he's not a super genius when it comes to say computers or audio go on sir you're making me horny but when we started this thing ian took everything over and he has done an amazing job with production the audio the video sure we have hiccups here and there we have that one that one episode was really bad. That one we couldn't get off the ground or whatever. That happened once out of 103. Good job. My point is Ian figured out how to do all this great production value stuff and you've done an awesome job. I just want to thank you. Can you give yourself a round of applause for me? I don't know how to do it. That's for Ian, everybody. His balls are bouncing around. His balls are bouncing around. But here's my point. JJP programs frickin' pinball machines and they can't figure out how to make a cool video bringing Steve Ritchie into the... They're just like, oh shit, Steve's coming in. Should we videotape it or something? Hi, Steve. How are you today? This is me. For you guys at home, I'm pretending I have a camera posted to my face and I'm like, Steve, how's it going? This is Pat Lawler, too, by the way. Hey, Steve, I haven't seen you in a while. You still a crabby old man? Yep. How about you, Pat? It's almost as if these pinball companies are run by old men. That's an interesting, that's an acute observation. So astute am I. Astute, that's the word. Astute. That's an astute observation. I just feel like, yeah, maybe they're still living in the 80s. And I'm not saying they got to even spend any money on it. They just need to spend, what, like 20 minutes producing something? I don't know. It's just weird. so if you need us to produce your introduction videos with poor man's pinball at gmail.com poor man's pinball at gmail.com please email us kid chris oh ken was on vacation fail uh prison pro i love you yeah cavalier says that was a horrible video uh prison pro i predict at least two richie games are launched after retirement stern and jjp yeah maybe uh cavalier curmudgeon uh steve whispered into pat's ear design pinball better steve said this is kyle steve said loser kid a while back his latest game on stern was done so i assume it'll be released yeah no everyone said that you're gonna see another Steve Ritchie game from stern yeah it's it's done they're gonna polish it and they're gonna send it out yep um but holy cow so anyways enough about that i mean it is what the last question i don't need an answer we can just think about it pinball doc laura and richie are older than me that's effing old that's fucking old well let's just say it i'll say it out loud i don't care this isn't an ageism question but do you think their best pinball is ahead of them or behind them no it's it's so you know it is what it is man there is there's no denying that yeah why is this uh this isn't a thing it isn't tim lee should have hired jonathan hall i agree jonathan hall bring the production value back to JJP. Drew says one thing nice about me, Tim, and you have to take it back so quickly, huh? Alright, what else we got? Stern price increase. It's all these balls bouncing around. What'd you say? It's all these balls bouncing around. It's all these balls bouncing around. Fucking Stern, man. Why would we do that? Well, it's easy. It's low-hanging fruit. People will pay it. It's low-hanging fruit. You know, from a... Who's leaving pinball because it's $500 cheaper? Nobody. Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Here's what's going to happen. There will be a small percentage of pinball buyers who are going to tap out, okay? Mm-hmm. But there are going to be new buyers coming in, and a large percentage of the old buyers are going to be still buying games. Oh, Rodden's in chat, by the way. Rodden, we love you, brother. Welcome, Rodden. Shit's expensive. Well, what did Joe Kamenkow say? Get a better job. Yes. Yes, he absolutely did. Spoken like a true rich fucker. So Cavalier says, how much is this term pro? I was talking about this the other day, Cavalier. So this is what we kind of determined. So, and someone help me. Is Zach in chat today? I hope not. I didn't see him. I'm going to be talking shit about distributors. I'm just kidding. um a stern pro before this price increase the msrp was i believe six thousand ninety nine dollars okay follow me here i'm following baby and if you didn't know anybody and you didn't have any inroads and you just called your average distributor not flipping out because they're above average in every way shape and form um if you call if you just called a distributor and you said hey i want to buy a new in box iron maiden they would have probably gave it to you for like 56.99 57.99 somewhere in there okay 58 you know somewhere in there 5800 bucks and shipped to your door so what does this mean now well they're raising the price 500 okay so now a stern pro is going to MSRP for $65.99. Okay? Yep. That was Ian, ladies and gentlemen. So $65.99, right? Yeah. So now you're going to call that same distributor, and you're going to say, hey, I want a new-in-box Iron Maiden, and they're going to say, great. It's going to be, I'm making up a number, $6,300, right? Like 62, probably like $62.99 would be my guess or $61.99. That's freaking crazy. Yeah. So now, no matter who you know or what relationship you have with your distributor, you're going to be paying over $6,000 for a Stern Pro shipped to your door. Ian's sinking in right now. I just wanted a moment of silence. Yep. For the death of prices. I want everyone to understand what's happening. Right? I mean. Think about it. And now let's do premiums, right? Guys, you're not listening to the rich man's podcast. Yeah, this is not a rich man's podcast. This is the poor man's podcast. So a premium. You know the shit we had to do to get a fucking pro? Yowza. It's not pretty. The premiums were like. Edible underwear eating? Piece of cake. You know, you could get a premium from a distributor for like, say, $7,500, $7,600, give or take. that's so many hundreds yes now now you're you're you're at that you're literally at that eight thousand dollar mark it's sinking in and yeah now he's like no i'm not i'm not paying that i don't like it right so and pinball's too rich for my blood right now anyway well and le's we're not going to talk about because le's have been out of reach for several years i don't care who you are yeah it says limited edition around here nope um and then yeah rodent's talking about in australia ten thousand dollars for a pro wrap your brain around that ten thousand dollars for a pro and rodent you can spend that kind of coin i know what you do for a living what does rodent do for a living he told me three times didn't understand him just kidding use games oh here pinball doc from pinballprices.com use games up 28% in 2021 except when Ian sells them Ian sells them he's like I took another bath on this one how the hell am I not making money on pinball machines my first new in box was Metallica LE for $7200 shipped see that's what I'm talking about That's what he's talking about. It's just nuts. So in chat, is this going to deter anyone from buying a new in-box game? Are you guys out of the new market? They're not talking about if you couldn't afford it or you can't afford it or you don't want to afford it, but I'm just saying, from where we were last year to where we are now, is this going to just steer you clear of buying new in-box? Let us know in chat. What about you, Ian? Are you down with new in-box? yeah i think for the time being unless there's a real i mean that theme is so goddamn important well it's gonna be more important now it's so important it'll be so important because if it's not a theme that doesn't absolutely floor me there's no way i'm gonna make it happen five themes you would think about big trouble little china yep goonies yep uh big trouble little china again yeah one just called the pork chop express yeah that's it right your list is pretty short yeah that's true what else it has to be a couple more that you would labyrinth labyrinth yeah you've talked about that one okay the soundtrack alone would be killer okay maybe a real creature pin not a drive-thru pin drive-thru movie okay um yeah how about you Futurama another Spider no for me it would be Futurama Yeah something in the comic realm that I really dig I mean, Spider-Man is my favorite. They already got Deadpool. Avengers was fine. You'd do a Venom, right? Yes. Venom or Carnage. With the new movies coming. Yes. If they did a Spider-Man villains pin specifically, which they could do because you have that new Carnage movies coming out, Woody Harrelson. That could be pretty badass. I would definitely be in on that. So, yeah, Venom, Carnage, Futurama. Yeah, there's not many. I mean, yeah, I'm even thinking, no, no, that's it. Tim Lee said, I'm out, done with pinball. Sure, you are. Yeah, bullshit. He texts me every day, hey, can I get this one? Hey, I'm looking for this one. Let's see here. dr john it's becoming a stretch but still getting amanda come on dr john rod and way out for a long time all right um it will deter me uh i'm priced out cause out cavalier bye bye bye flawless js because you're flawless cause you're making all that money with those quarters though on location i'm glad i bought a new inbox now rachel absolutely yes Yeah, Rachel got in right before the price increase. Way to go, Rachel. CJC here. I was never really a new-in-box kind of guy. To begin with, cars, houses, pins, I always buy gently used. Would you buy gently used edible panties? Kid Chris, oh, yeah, because we might sell them. Suicide Squad, that'd be a cool one. That would be cool. Storing favorite games to new-in-box condition. Yeah. It's Operator, Friend Mike. Okay, they're making fun of Porky Six. Porky's. They didn't have six Porky's. Ace H.X. says Porky. No, he was just trying to say Porky's. Oh, Porky's. Ah, there it is, Porky's. Yeah, the movie. It's becoming a stretch, but still getting a Mando. There you go, Dr. John. Kid Chris, a Hotel Transylvania? Really? I'm not judging. That's just... Kaz, no Deep Root, no Goonies. Hey, it's still a possibility, brother. Let's see here. My Little Pony vs. He-Man. All right. Well, you know what? Stephen Silver, Raven Remastered, really? Gently Hughes is no longer a deal. Raven Remastered, Stephen Silver. Now, that was supposed to be a secret. You know the boys over in Haugus are making that one next. That would actually be pretty cool. I would like to see that. I have a sense of humor. So does Steven. Yeah. But I'm still saying, okay, so there's a few people here that are saying, like, I'm out or whatever, but because the demand is still so high, they're going to sell just as many pins. Yeah. Like I said, a few people are going to bow out, but I just think it's not going to deter too many people. I'm going to give another shout-out. Our boy, tribe member, Stephen Silver, just got done with working with, Remember last week we talked about the little screen for Creature and how there was going to be a game that was going to be announced that was going to use basically an LCD in the back side of the pinball machine. So the back wall. They put the LCD screen in there for Twilight Zone. And I think they're working on Theater of Magic, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, I believe you're right. Well, they just announced the new game, and Stephen Silver did the animations for it. tron tron is the new game oh so they're doing some newer games with that yeah so now the tron backbox is gonna have you could tell that's gonna be fucking amazing for tron so Stephen Silver man i saw some of the animations it looks great he was working with compy uh do you guys have like a company name i don't even know if it's like a company name or i just know compy and his mods so but i saw that Stephen Silver uh was the lead animator for it so fucking a looks awesome yeah Stephen Silver, way to go. That's such a cool idea because, you know, ever since I saw, like, the animated, like, side blades, you know, like, that's cool. But now it's like this is right in front of you. It's like another screen. You know, it puts, I mean. Taking all those games to that next level. So. Yeah. I hope they do a bunch more. So if you guys have a Tron, please go on Pinside. Look at Compy's profile. Look at his forum post. There is a Tron new mod for this interactive LCD screen. It's fucking phenomenal. It looks perfect. Pinball doc, thank you for the subscription. And it just sits in the back, dude. It's so great. No, that is awesome. Yeah. What do those cost? I don't know, but we can look it up. The power of the internet. Probably like 400 bucks, I would think. Yeah, let's take a look here. Pinside.com. So we're going to Pinside. Oh, they don't have a website? I don't know. I just know that you can do it here. So we're on Pinsider right now. We're looking up Compy. We're searching. We got one Pinsider. About Compy. Says he's best friends with Stephen Silver. That's true. That's true. Form activity. Here we go. All right. Where are we at? New mod. Tron Interactive Backboard Display. Yeah, I got to see this bad boy. I haven't been following this and this is so cool because I dig the whole idea of it and like I said you can get some of these older games $4.99 $4.99 it's called Pin Vision is that what they're all called can they hear that I don't know go to Pin Vision holy fuck that looks cool that assuredly impressed even the most experienced players. We'll share it on our Facebook page, guys. This isn't really podcast material, but Stephen Silver did the animations to this thing. Wow. Steven, I'm not a huge fan of Tron, but now I'm a fan. Now you want it. No shit. Wow, that's badass. I'm going to throw it right now, but yeah, $4.99, I think I saw. I'm just thinking about every game that you could put something cool in it, right? All of them. Yeah, like there's really no limit. I mean, you've got Spider-Man. You do some of the villains. Now, let me ask you this, Steve and Silver. What about licensing and stuff? You know, because a lot of these smaller companies now have gotten shut down in recent times because of that, right? Yeah. If they're selling, you know, as soon as someone catches wind about any sort of licensing or whatever, we better shut up because we have a huge audience, like millions and millions of people. It's shared on our Facebook page, guys, if you want the link. It's pretty rad, and I'll share it to the fan page as well. But, yeah, go back to the show. Go back to the show. So, yeah, if Stephen Silver, if you can elaborate on that. I mean, was there – Pin vision, that's it. All right. Because did it look like there was any, like, trademark stuff on there? cause tron will be 30 000 now thanks yeah copies company is 68 pixels all right um okay okay well yeah but i'm just curious because um yeah i mean no great great job guys i hope they can hope they can start churning those out i'd love to see you could you could do uh some ghostbuster scenes you could do some star wars scenes you could do spider-man i mean we use no licensed materials oh perfect love it i had nice tron pro i traded it for new in box dialed in guys wow yeah i'd probably do that same trade bud those trons have become such a modern phenomenon no license materials there you go yeah well that's awesome just like that even though it sounded like the music but that must have been coming from the game itself so yeah perfect no very cool all right cool man let's go on what else we got uh we got some edible underwear we got what everyone's been waiting for oh god i'm gonna drink a little jesus like hey we want to talk about pinball and all we hear in the background is edible underwear edible underwear eat some shorts eat some shorts let's start this off right number one explain how this whole thing came about kids if you're listening turn this off you don't need to hear this this is when this is when adults do stupid shit explain how a joke goes to this and then wasn't a joke i just was like you know what we haven't done a taste test in a while you know we did the oktoberfest we did that was a while so yeah let's let's let's backtrack here so we did a beer tasting of different oktoberfest oktoberfest beers we did we did a bucky's bucky nuggets bucky nuggets we did a moon pie taste test which is one of the best because we were really drunk and just like shoving moon pies in our face um whatever everyone wants to know if we're wearing them yeah you guys are sick bastards like every last one of you so anyway were those the only three did we think so i wanted another taste test i just threw it out there so we put it out there and one of the things was like cheese it was pole it was just a pole like anyone could add whatever they want so we did cheese it's our own dumb fault i shouldn't have done this what were the other listings on there i started it and i just put whiskey because you know you like whiskey We got lots of whiskey here. Sure, sure, sure. We could do a whiskey taste test and then line up all the whiskeys. Best from worst, right? Yep. Simple. That's a poor man's thing. Somebody put cheese on there. I chuckled. Yeah, we're from Wisconsin. We eat some cheese. We eat some cheese. Problem is, there's no bad cheese in Wisconsin. That's the problem. Yeah, that's true. It's all good. So anyway. Yeah, Moon Pie. Sorry, Orbital says Moon Pie was frigging hilarious. Yeah, Moon Pie won. We couldn't stop giggling. Yeah, Zach came on. He's like, this is the most interesting part. Yeah, he just comes in and is shoving moon pies in her face. But anyways. He looked stoned as hell. Oh, it was terrible, but good at the same time. All right, so anyways, yeah, so edible undies won by like a landslide. Ari Jones had an idea. He said, I'm going to add edible underwear. It went crazy. Everyone voted for it. So here we are, man. And I'm sitting there at work going, I'm going to have to eat some fucking shitty fruit roll-ups now, huh? All right. So I go to the porn store. And guys, to answer your question, no, we're not wearing the edible underwear. Nor do I want to eat any underwear off of Drew's ass. Joke's on you. I'm not wearing any underwear. Drew, this guy, you're going to tame that lion? No way. My jeans feel amazing. You know it's a porn shop when they give you the black bag. right so i'm in the line right ian's walking out with his trench coat and his sunglasses there's three guys one in front of me excuse me two behind me guy in front of me is just waving his pocket pussy around sorry you guys are awesome for following through ari we are whores of the people we do this for the people yes because we are the people and i thought it was funny it was it is good so so here we are i anytime i can go to the porn store with for my buddy drew it's a good day i texted my wife by the way i said honey um going to the porn store to get some edible underwear for drew and i uh do you need anything simple question simple question she was like oh ha ha i guess uh look to see if there's a pipe or anything and like no questions was totally cool with me getting edible underwear for my buddy drew all right so go to the porn store like i said the line it's just fucking ridiculous i hate going to those things because you have the weirdest people there not saying that porn stuff is wrong like yay you like sex toys that's good for you nothing wrong with it but for 98 of us i think sitting in a line with a guy with a pocket pussy and guys giggling behind you about god knows what it's just it was too much for me but i was able to find the edible underwear section i haven't seen these yet so and this is news for me they only had two flavors and then they did have like the edible like bra thing but it was like the hard candy things that you chew So two flavors. We got peach, which makes sense to me, right? Peach. I was thinking peach, cherry, watermelon, right? The passion fruits, the sweet fruits. Fucking sour apple. Who the fuck wants to eat a sour apple coochie? We're having sexy time, and by the time my lips are going to be like this. Like, why? Why do we need sour apple underwear? Like, there's nothing. Insert joke here. Nobody wants sour apple. Baby, you're shit sour. Shit sour. Man, I'm just. Leave it to the Jolly Ranchers. Just leave it to the Jolly Ranchers. But yeah, $10.99 each, you fuckers. And the doctor says nay. Nay. Green apple. Bold fruit flavor. So this is the edible crotchless. Oh, they're crotchless. Yeah. Kid Crystal, I don't know if it's like a fruit roll-up. I'm thinking it's just going to be like a weird water, sugar, and... Have you ever had one? Edible underwear? Yeah. I knew you did. It's been a zillion years. I dated so many bizarre women over the years. Ian, I got stories from babies. Did you get an extra for later tonight, says Kaz? Yep. I'm bringing one home to my wife, and she'll be passed out. So the tagline here is... So then I'll be drunk and I'll be eating it on the couch in my underwear. The tagline is, the original undies you can eat. It's clever. It's very clever. And when I saw it, so the packaging, they're called gummy panties. Gummy panties. But the G looks like a C, so I thought it said cummy panties. And I was like, oh, that kind of makes sense. Green apple, bold fruit. Wait, wait, wait. See, you know, hang on. I want to make a point here. We were talking about, like, sexism earlier. This is sexism misogynistic at its finest. It says for her. In the corner here, it says for her. Why does it have to be for her? Why can't it be for him? I'm calling bullshit. Well, they're not really panties if it's for her. Is it for her to wear? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Or for her to enjoy. It says for her, see? It could be for him. They're crotchless, right? We can do whatever we want. Exactly. So I just want to say that for all the ladies out there. I'm going to draw this out because I really don't want to eat this shit, but it says on the back. Find how many licks it takes to get to your sweet spot. Turn yourself into a tasty treat. This feels like a Love Letter episode. Find out how many licks it takes to get to your sweet spot. Jack Rabbit says, come on, guys, don't act so naive. Turn yourself into a tasty treat with these yummy edible gummy undies. Delicious, delightful, flavored candy undies are a sexy way to satisfy your lover's sweet tooth. And best of all, you can get to be the main course. Stephen Silver says, green apple is greater than dingleberry. That's true, Steven. So we're going to just open this up. So for those of you just joining, this is the Poor Man Spinball Podcast. And we're going to eat some edible underwear. We're going to share it. Rachel says it would be better if you had the kilt on. rachel i already told you i felt fat today but i don't even know where the kilt is open it up let's see what we got here all right and yes orbital albert panties should be for everyone and everything every man has worn his lover's panty says cause cause nope that's just you wow that's not gonna fit anybody what the fuck so hang on here hang on here why did i pay that much for this little i want to show you guys if you guys can see this in the camera so what we're looking at basically it looks like a cup you know from sports like a jockstrap cup like that kind of shape it's it's triangular and then it has uh like string i don't think i could eat the string so see i was gonna put these on for a joke but now i'm like it wouldn't even crash this i hope you didn't this well no i mean on the outside but this string won't fit around my fat ass it's like this Use some bits to buy some top shelf lube and tickle each other's sacks until Drew says stop. Then keep going. Jay Hawker, thank you for the bits. Wow, 10,000 bits. I want to show you what he just said. Jay Hawker, we love you. What up, ball sacks? Use some bits to buy some top shelf lube and tickle each other's sacks until Drew says stop. Then keep going. Jay Hawker, I am going to take a picture of this chat and give it to my wife because my wife, every week, she's like... She doesn't believe that we're very, very nice on this show. She always says, are you going to touch penises tonight? And the answer is always yes. Yeah, of course. She asks me that almost every single week. All right. Oh, wow, there's like some lace in here, too. Did you see that? So, Jayhawker, I'm glad you're back. Is that lace part of the candy? Yeah. Well, no, I think it's just... This almost looks like a fucking fig leaf, you know, to be honest. So we're opening this thing up here. This is the little strap that's supposed to go around. You guys can barely see that because it's barely there. What is going on here? How does this work? What did you buy, sir? This isn't covering any genitalia. Why is yours so nicely defined and mine is so squished? So we're looking at two triangular pieces of gelatin and sugar. Yeah, it's not good. They look like alien heads, to be honest. Like little ghosts from Pac-Man. Hang on, hang on, hang on. With a little Fu Manchu. Hang on. Okay, come back over here, Ian. We need a picture for our page here. Ian, do this. We're taking a selfie for our page. There we go. So that's going to go up on the page, a picture of Ian and I. Is this everything you fuckers wanted? Yeah, you guys said you wanted us. We're not done yet. This just passed out. Stephen Silver says your undies have a soul patch. Yeah, there's like a little lacy thing on the bottom that's supposed to be sexy, but it's just like... It's a soul patch. Yeah. They don't stretch. No, not really, Rachel. Again, I don't know who this is going to cover. This isn't going to cover up shit for most people, I think. All right, man. Wear them like masks. My safe word is pickle Rick. Pickle Rick, I love it. Banana hammock. All right, well. Sorry, a little sidebar there. Ooh, sidebar. I have been getting so stoned most nights watching Rick and Morty, and it has been amazing. I think I've said this before, but if you guys have not seen Rick and Morty, take a gummy, watch Rick and Morty, you're welcome. Because he really understands the jokes now. Totally. so ian is chopping up his edible panty here and uh kaz says looks disgusting kaz you're just saying that now i know you're ordering these on amazon right now and you're gonna try these out with your wife next week so what which one is this this is peach yeah we're gonna find out which one of these peach you're wondering wait peach that's kind of funny right in case you're wondering and i know you all are which is the best flavor edible underwear we're gonna prove it to you right now chris chandler so is that like a taint brazilian i don't want to i don't want to choke on this taint over here this and he also says love how he and you switchblade to carve them up yep style all right so we'll do peach first yep all right cheers my brother all right cheers eating edible underwear with my buddy drew this is the first for us folks oh what's that candy i'm still chewing it's very chewy it's chewy shit it's not fruit roll-up No, it tastes like... Higher quality than Fruit Roll. Crap. It's fucking delicious. No, it is. What is that candy? No, this is a knockoff of that. It's a legit A-list candy. You know what I'm talking about. I can't think of the name now. It's something. Oh, I know what it is. So the peach one, it tastes like those peach rings. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. No. Yeah, they're like, they're circles, and they're like yellow on one side and orangish on the other side. You know, they sell them at the checkout line. It's a peach ring. Well, it's not bad. No, it's good. It's very chewy, though. Goddamn delicious. Very chewy. What is that one, sour apple? We're going to go sour. I think it's just green apple. All right, cheers. Cheers. Sour apple. Sour apple. Oh God No Peaches Patty Oh my God Ugh I bet this was used and returned. Was there chocolate on that one? Yeah. Doo-doo butter. Why is there chocolate on this one? Not good. All right. Oh, God. Baby Ruth Barley Goonies. Millions of peaches, says Rachel. Orbital Albert, the chocolate pretzel. I don't know what that tastes like, but it didn't taste right. No, that one, the peach was really good. Never shopped the bargain bin at the porn shops, says Stephen Silver. Yeah, not bargain. It was like $10.99. It was expensive as shit. Yeah, they're very expensive. I do not care for the green. I say, without a doubt, I would eat some more of this peach. Peach is good. Just watch out for the soul patch. Don't eat the soul patch. There you go. Oh, my God. We're peeling off the soul patch here. It's peach. Oh, no, you've got to eat it, baby. It's like a worm. Bottom of a tequila. You've got to drink the worm. The soul patch does not peel off. Oh, God. So, yeah, the sour apple, not a success. But that peach is dope. I never thought I'd say that. Dope. All right, hold on. I'll wash my hands. Chris Chandler, evident good authority that shit doesn't cost $10 at a porn store. It's 750 tops. Motherfucker, I got it right on the box. It says $10.99. That was expensive candy. Oh, man. Edible undies. All right, so was it worth it? I would say hell no. First off, your partner is going to look ridiculous in them. Second off, I don't think it's going to fit them. Send us your pictures of you wearing edible panties. Yes. We're looking at spinball at gmail.com. We're looking at you, Kaz. All right. Well, that was our show. Drew, do you want to talk about anything else, man? How about let's do a happy hour? Yeah. Let's do a happy hour. We're having a good time. Oh, my God. That was too funny. Are you sure this is supposed to be edible? No. Thank you, Kaz. 100 bits for undies. Bits for undies. You guys are amazing. Let's do a happy hour. So anything you guys want to talk about, why don't you just start throwing some shit up on the chat, baby. Soul patch. Happy hour's not working. There it is. It's time for happy hour here at Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. And that can only mean one thing. Time to go look at the insanity that is the viewer's comments. all right here we are viewers comments so it's always my favorite part of the show drew you know why why is that because we sit back and we just like riff on whatever the i don't want these we just riff just go ahead and shoot from the hip you know that was our best part of the show last week was us just doing that oh deep root in there oh yes i want to hear the audio i know That was so damn fun. If you guys missed it, Ian and I interviewed Robert Mueller last week. I interviewed him, yeah. Kaz said Deep Root done. We didn't really talk about that. Yeah, we forgot to. So there were some jokes about Deep Root getting evicted or whatever. There was some Photoshop, but they've got to be close. I mean, either they get games out or they close the doors, right? There's really no other option. So I don't know. That's just my take on it. Oh, Chris Chandler. Your dedication to pinball can be proven by the edible underwear left in your teeth. Thanks, Arvidal, Albert. No, you know, to be honest, that's deeper to me, guys, is it's just one of those wait and sees. Something's going to happen, right? And, you know, they have all sorts of problems, and these are problems that probably should have gotten ironed out four years ago, but here we are right instead of designing pinball machines they should have built them you know focus on manufacturing quad opto quadrillion sure all the different things they're they're trying so i don't know if they're gonna quit all together i have no idea man i just uh yeah chris chandler saying there's nothing inside like really you look in there it's just just an empty building that is sad if you think about the reason i'm no longer the deeper correspondent oh sorry chris chandler so it doesn't sound great it doesn't sound great it doesn't sound like they were going to be doing what they said they were going to do which is a damn shame rachel flip's basement update yeah i've been putting my basement on facebook dry locked the walls and there were so many jokes about dead hookers and all this stuff yeah my basement's getting finished it's just yeah it's a concrete whorehouse right now we're getting there i love that he takes pictures check out what i did next it's good yeah i'm trying to make some updates it'll be better once there's actually something real going on yeah no doubt yeah now it's just like i said now it's all the boring stuff the waterproofing just making sure that it you know doesn't leak and you know well some fun stuff coming up so do you have a layout in your head yeah yeah i do it's pretty straightforward how many games can fit down there oh 20 easy how many games are you gonna fit down there 25 if you didn't say it i was gonna say 25 yeah all right so now drew's basement still looks like shit but he's getting better it's getting better yep uh let's see it looks like deep root was planning on selling all their tech and designs but that never happened either oh that's new to me man i didn't hear that guys Stephen Silver you can say what you want about Robert, but he made good on his pledge to never license the pin bar to multimorphic. Is that a real thing? Hmm. I don't know. Stephen Silver, is that for real or is that a joke? I don't understand. Tony Scoots, the few machines they built will be worth lots of money. Yep, that's very true if they do get any out the door. Stephen Silver, I guess my thing about the pin bar is, you know, With Jerry's manufacturing capabilities at P3, he could kind of make his own, right, if he wanted to. No, because it's patented. Well, not the pin bar, but he could do something similar. But the question is, do we need it? Do we want it? Is it going to add a lot of value? Oh, Stephen Silver, yeah. He said he would license it to everyone except Multimorphic. Damn. Oh, my God. Wow. Fuck that guy then. Fuck Robert Mueller. Crazy. I'm sick of looking at his face on Facebook anyway. he's always like trying to be my friend on facebook drew should upload pics to tiktok i will with my edible panties on uh chris chandler yeah it was fun to play you know i'm i have no doubt raza was cool game no it looked like a cool game but it's not available to the masses just like all the cool games right a strike p3 has a pin bar in the middle of their table yes they do the whole thing's a pinball touche touche um food truck would have sold more than adam's family no see everyone wants food truck that's everyone got excited about food truck i'm here goonies but everyone's like no food truck bro food truck you know people say that but then you're like would you buy a food truck well no i just want to see it get made yeah no doubt right we'll see how that goes yeah and once again the people who are going to buy games like that are ones that Yeah, they have large collections. Nobody's going to go off for their first pin and say, oh, I can get Deadpool. I can get Iron Maiden. I can get Guardians of the Galaxy. I can get Food Truck. I'm going to get Food Truck. Food Truck is what I chose. The Pumbar sold them. Yeah. It's the same thing with P3. I mean, the license. If you have people buying one or two games, it's got to be this big license. All right. I'm done talking about Deep Root. What else we got, guys? Come on, something fun. Yeah, no more Deep Root. Deep Root's dead. Deep Root, I don't care. I don't care. Unless the game is being assembled, I don't care. Chris Chandler, food truck is that awkward person you had a crush on in junior high. No one will admit they like them, so they just pick on it. No. Poor food truck. I just don't like it. That's the truth. You could buy an actual food truck cheaper than a new pin. Yeah, that's actually a true cause. October Expo plans, says Pinball Doc. We're going there and getting really drunk, and my wife's going to join us for one night. That's true. And Ian's leaving us after one night. That's also true. Lots of true statements here tonight. So many true. I don't know. We have plans, right? Thursday, Friday for me, and then you're going the whole weekend. The whole weekend. Yep. Now, this is coming from a guy who didn't last one day, but last year. Oh, whatever. First of all, it was two years ago. Sorry. Second of all, you're right. third of all i learned my lesson sure you did so there you go um who in chance to go to expo it's a good question orby are you coming from canada are they gonna let you out a um who's macho i really want to know and some people say they'll say it's Stephen Silver Stephen Silver i know it's you buddy do you think we'll ever know I don't know. Ryan Kuyper is always telling me he knows. Yeah. Well, there's people really in the know because they talk to people in the industry and they can keep their mouth shut. Ari, I'm going. Great. Maybe Ari is macho. What's the scoop on Lyman Sheets? Did he leave Stern? I asked him. Macho equals Puppet Pals guaranteed. Yeah. No, I think it's different. I think it is different. It's just not that talented. Who is it? Prison Process. Who is Puppet Pals? Nobody knows. No, I don't know. I don't know. I know Canada has a ton of rumors out there about Lyman going to CGC. Well, Stern better pay Lyman everything he's worth to keep him there, right? I mean, you don't need to have a lot of shit in your game to code a game as awesome as Lyman Codes. Like, Lyman Codes makes these games amazing. Yes, but there again, you're back to looking at it like a fan, not a business. No, for him, though, he is their best coder, arguably. Well, Lyman helped. And if you're Lyman, don't you get more chances of coding a game at Stern versus the one game a year from all of these other guys? Lyman helped them set up Spike, like the platform. So he did a lot of the work for that. and yet Chris Chandler says Lyman sells games. He does. He does, but when you have, once again, the pent-up demand that we do, I would argue it doesn't matter as much. I would even go as far as to say Stern could put out a substandard product and they would still sell out. They're not. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying, but um Kaz Lyman's best game is 24 Steve Ritchie's best design too ooh that's interesting are you serious I played when I was in 24 that was CSI um no I you know Stern doesn't want to put out junk I'm not suggesting that but I'm just saying that you know they can get a new coder just like any business they can pay them less and they're going to have the same results orbital albert yes i'm staying at drew's house don't worry i'll be the little spoon buddy you are going to be the peanut butter and jelly in this eating your sandwich i love it i love it you're going to keep us warm with all that man love yes uh orbital albert i beat lyman at permberg but i found out later it was because he left early way to go albert way to go that's freaking awesome dude he's like yep i totally beat lyman sheets oh shit that's awesome because he had to go oh man yeah no i don't know man no idea no idea where lyman's going well be interesting no it is and whatever it should be freelance man that'd be badass for him the pick and choose his games the idea about him with cactus canyon makes a lot of sense right does it though absolutely why because cactus canyon uh code is unfinished yeah but so is a new game touche you just blew my mind ian it's like every every new game's code is completely unfinished it's totally unfinished man that's every game you just blew a hole right in my theory bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro my theory is blown oh my god my mind is blown oh we have a new person in chat moose person hey moose person welcome moose person put that lineman coat on it and it will sell no matter the layout moose person i am not new who are you moose person uh not new yeah loose person yes yeah um it's brandon is it that's what it says oh hey brandon hi buddy why moose person you know what i don't want to know i don't want to know it has to do with edible underwear and something and just yeah you're good brandon love you buddy all right so all right right yeah we're good we're good i mean we we don't know all right no shit all right let's Let's wrap it up. I feel like this is Dragon. Dragon. I felt like that conversation was a three, guys. Next week I expect it to be up here again, a ten. Okay? Yeah, there were not enough dildos. No dildo talk. No emo talk. Emo talk either. Emo emos. That whole thing. All right. So let's wrap it up. All right, shut up, Gizmo. God damn it. I killed Gizmo. Gizmo. Gizmo, you cutie. All right, so buy our shit over at Silver Ball Swag. It's under the Promoter tab, Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Dragging my balls, says Tony Scoots. Email us at poormanspinball at gmail.com. Okay. Poormanspinball at gmail.com. Yes. Hey, we got one good email this last week. It was Sean McDermott, and he said, what is that new song you're playing in the beginning? And I responded, it's the Butthole Song. Yeah, we don't know. It's the Butthole Song. It's just called The Butthole Song. Some Australian guy. I love that song. It's just... It's a catchy song. It's very catchy. Ask Jessie J, because Jessie J sent it to us. Jessie J, where are you? She's working. I miss you. She's not even on Facebook anymore. She's got a new job. She's working. She's got her own thing going on. Jessie J, I miss you. Best of luck to you, Jessie J, if you ever listen to us again. Yes. We love you. But thank you, everybody, for joining us. Thanks, Moose Person. Thank you for the subscriptions. Thank you for all the bits, guys, out in chat. Jayhawker, 10,000 bits. Man, you are a lot. Deep pocket motherfucker. I love it, Jayhawker. Thank you so much. Thank you for coming in and making our day. Yes, and thank you guys for watching us eat edible underwear, and that was weird for everyone involved, so thank you. And the booze was good tonight. It was. I feel great. Drew, what did you learn today? Oh, we haven't done that in a while. You know what I learned today? I learned that Steve Ritchie like me wears the same fucking thing every day which is great no I appreciate that but I also learned that he whispered stuff in Pat Lawler's ear and that thing was I'm gonna fuck you Jesus wait what? what were you going to say? I didn't have anything yours was better yours is better i was going i was trying to make a good joke but uh what what would Steve Ritchie whisper and pat law there you go what would Steve Ritchie whisper and pat lawless here or we had a good one earlier what do you say design pinball better i was gonna say dialed in was overrated oh oh if you give me more bob i can make a better game too soon i'll allow it or uh how about this let zeppelin really wasn't that good of a game what if he leans in and goes i don't want that cats guy coding any of my fucking games make sure that fucker stays away oh my god oh i love it uh not good enough what did you say what did you say i love it where's the pool rachel who has sold more games richie or lawler whoo total sales i think it's lawler because he had fucking twilight zone no he had adams family that's what i meant so yeah he's he says it going no yeah i would have to say lawler outsold him i think we did that that's the richie verse lawler episode yeah Yeah, we do. Lawler won almost every one. Yeah, that's true. Well, better games. It doesn't mean he sold more. Well, I think he did sell more. I think that was part of our criteria. No, no. You know what? I'll say Richie, and I'll tell you why. Why? Because in the last, like, five or eight years, Richie has had a hell of a lot more pins than Lawler. Oh, that's true. Because Lawler only had... Two. Two, yeah. Richie's had, like, you know, half a dozen. Richie has had a ton more titles. Yeah, I think you're right, Stephen Silver. So I think from sheer numbers, but if you look at average numbers sold per title, it's probably Lawler. Because Ann's family jacks it up. All right, guys. Thank you again. We're going to wrap up there. We're going to call it good. I learned that peach edible underwear is actually goddamn good. And don't get that green apple stuff. Nobody wants that around your coochie. I also learned that there's like a little Fu Manchu on the end of those, so it's really weird. Sound coochie? Do you eat that? Do you just eat around it? It seems way too hard. That's what she said. I want to say thank you to our sponsors. Flip N Out Pinball. Check them out. Pinshades, Pinstadiums, and of course, pinballprices.com. Do you think Nicole Money ever listens to us? pinballprices.com. And if she did? Not after what you did to her. Would she be like? That sweaty shirt fiasco was embarrassing. It's not that bad. It's not bad. It's funny. I can't wait to see her at Expo again. You should bring an extra shirt. No, I have these plans. Seriously, I'm going to politely ask her. I'm going to be like, Nicole, I'm sober. I'm not sweaty yet. Don't do it. I'm already telling you no. Whatever it is, just no. Just leave her alone, man. Oh, man. No, she's a sweetheart. She is. She's so sweet. She's a damn sweetheart. No, she talks to me on Facebook. That's the thing. It's like, you know, it's fine. Your sponsors say thank you. Pinball Doc, you're too nice, man. You're way too nice. I love it. I love you, man. All right. Well, thank you again, Stephen Silver. Check out his new. Thanks, Brandon. We'll see you soon, buddy. Go ahead. With Pin Vision. Get that over at, I guess, Pinside. Pin Vision. Yeah, go and check it out with Compu. Guys, we need to pump that up because they need to do that for like. Every game. 50 games. Not every game, but like a lot. Imagine even like a meteor, right? A meteor. Just with like a cool space kind of thing going on. All those space games would love it. Yeah, you could. Oh, fuck. Very cool. And then we also just want to give a quick shout out to, I don't know. I forgot what I was going to say. But love you guys. Thank you so much. Love you. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. I wonder what the side of the pool. I wonder what the side of the pool. Maybe thereeniz is you're not taking the resilience of a tiger but or i wonder what's inside your buckle i wonder what's inside your buckle i always wanna knowish you're into my glass. 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