You got big meat, shaking your meat. She said big meat. Shut up, butthead, okay. You got little meat. She said little meat. Shut up, butthead, come on. You can go on the ball of your foot, or you can go on the ball of your foot. Damn it, butthead. Okay, come on, come on, get it all out of your system. Come on, she said meat, she said big meat, small meat, she said balls. Speed it up. Okay, are you done? Uh, maybe. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slamtail Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Bias. All bias. Okay, no one knows who you're talking about yet, but this is episode 239, and Bruce thinks I am not enthusiastic enough. enough when I mentioned Slam Tilt on my other podcast. Yes, see? And I think Ron has to agree. He heard it. He was like, I wasn't that bad. I didn't even say I wasn't that bad. It basically sounded fine to me. I don't understand the issue. Nope. No enthusiasm. Everyone else listen, and you can email in. Bruce, you know I'm on another podcast. There you go. It's called The Silver Ball Chronicles, and you could see it on the pinball network it's really exciting it's just perfect finally okay and that's happy that's that's it okay the stuff i put up with it's awesome and we're here for pinball and shit pinball and shit yeah not much going on in the way of news no except for i got to play x-men premium second time now i played in le before now i played our premium you know where are we i played this premium where did you play the premium was it the rochester pinball collective not yet no you see see how much of a douchey see how much of a douche i'm sorry was it the rochester pinball collective there you go located at 349 west commercial street east rochester new york let's see sweet uh 29 65 there you go nailed it nailed it so uh no i played it it's actually it's not going to the rpc until next week oh we wanted to play it and test it so it's at mark because we had league night at mark this past sunday mark one of the one of the owners of the rochester pinball collective and we got this machine from our own zach not our zach the other zach from flipping out pinball oh wow free plug free plug oh we paid you okay no but uh we got a machine it has been playing great a lot of cool shots in the game but i had definitely thank uh zach for uh getting us on the list for the premium so we got it just before our launch party get it on oh no wait launch party when's the launch party i don't even know i think it's when i'm gone the 23rd i'm actually not gonna miss our launch party uh 23rd of november i'm missing it oh so it's the let's see 23rd is to uh the weekend before thanksgiving weekend yes it's i'm sorry yeah the 23rd is it's a saturday and then on the 29th the black friday we are having a three strikes tournament at the RPC. And then in December, we have the fall brawl in Rochester. Spots are still available. $85 gets you three days at the RPC and two tournaments. Two, not just one. Two. Oh my God. But what kind of tournaments? One is a pump and dump. And one is a, I don't know if it's flipper frenzy. I forget what the other one is. It's Mega Match. Whatever. It's Flipper Frenzy. Yeah, Flipper Frenzy. Whatever it's called now. So one, if you don't want to be there like every minute of every day, you can pick the Pump and Dump instead. You can pick the Pump and Dump. Yep. See? You have a choice. Yep. And you get to choose what times you want to play. That's the good thing about it is you get to Pump and Dump only. And you get to play with all of us. You're playing in it? No. Oh. But you get to hang out with me. You get to play with Zach and all the other people up here. And don't forget, this is your last big chance to get some points in New York State. Oh, yeah, the whole New York State thing. Yep. So if you're close or on the bubble in New York State, now's the time to come on up and get some big points. A sign for whopper whoring, yes. Whopper whoring are us. Because don't forget where the Nationals are. Where are the Nationals, Bruce? They're at DRPC. Ooh, how exciting. And the Pinmasters. Yes, and the Pinmasters. Just five more months away. Yikes. I wonder if he ever sells out of Pinmasters. I don't know. I mean, most, I don't know. I don't feel like just giving my money away to top players, which is literally what you're doing. Yeah, I'll be teching, so I'm not going to be playing at all that weekend. I'm retired now. Oh, are you really retired? I have not. I did not play in any tournaments except for our league. That's the only thing I played in. Okay. I have not played in a tournament. Hold on. Let's see the last tournament I've actually been in. Uh-oh. According to IFPA. Since Ron's a tournament, I'm not going to say whore, but we'll go with whore. I'm not going to say this offensive term. I'll just say it. I'll just say it anyway. I am 2,381 in the state. Not in the state, duh. It feels like the state. The world. In the world. And the last tournament result I have is June 2nd. Wow. That counts on my thing, and I'm going to go to unused. Unused. Okay, so 7-20. July 20th is the last thing I played in. Okay. So over four months now almost. Well, speaking of tournaments, I have some corrections. Ooh. Or a correction, I guess. Yes. So on the last episode, I went off on how no one updates brackets, and I have no idea who wins these things, and so I was naming who I thought won these things. Well, one of them was incorrect. Uh-oh. And it was like the big one, like the winner of the main tournament. Yeah. It was not Zach McCarthy. It was, in fact, Jack Slovacek. Yes. That is Jack Slovacek, who won. And I'd like to thank the two people who corrected me. Yes. So I'm wondering how many people actually care about the tournament section. I know. Oh, and Jackie Olsen won the women's tournament, which the bracket was never updated. So there you go. Fails. Yeah, fails. Yes, totally. So I think you were at a couple tournaments this past couple of weeks. Oh, you want to do those first? Yeah, we'll do it first, and then we'll go into news after that. We can see what you've been up to. Ron, what have you been up to today in this past month? Oh, in this past month. Well, I was at the Sanctum 24-hour tournament. Don't you hate that tournament with the longness of it and, like, the 24 hours of just dread? No, I take it as a personal challenge to me physically. Ah. Mm-hmm. And, yeah, I played pretty good this year. I got it right here in front of me. See, I am prepared, I think. So I finished out of 100 people. I finished 11th. Congratulations. That's pretty darn good. That's very good. It's hard to keep playing at that level. And Zach was 7th. Oh, yes. I went with Zach. Yes. So I got to, yeah, we had Friday the day before, and I got to hear all this snoring and noise and stuff. But I still managed to get sleep. I thought he said he doesn't snore. Oh, he's – can I even call it snoring? He makes loud noises. Who's worse, me or him? Years ago, I would have said just you, definitely. But I don't know. Wow. I don't know. It's close. I have a mouth guard now, so I don't even snore anymore. Oh, mouth guard. Can you give him one? It's for my grinding of my teeth. Oh. Oh. Oh, so Zach, the whole damn tournament, he just complains and complains and complains. So I figured he was doing horrible. And then we get to the round 17. Yes, 17 rounds, folks. And it's three games per round. Yes, it is. Yeah, three times 17, whatever that is, 51. 51 games. 51 games later, we start the final round, and Zach is in the final four, the final group. It's like, what? what's he doing there i thought he was doing horrible jesus okay i think he just likes to complain well he'll say it's constructive the final round they do this thing at the sanctum where the final round each group can win money meaning if your groups of four four players and if you win that group you win a dollar amount and the dollar amounts go up depending on you know How high your rank is. Yeah, what group you're in. Yes. Like I think the top group was like $175 or something you could win. So I was in group four. So $155, looking pretty good here. I'd like to have that $155. And I tied. How'd you tie? Six and six. Oh, okay. So did you split or did you? I had three firsts. No, try that again, Ron. Bad math. I had three seconds. and the other guy had a he had last and two firsts and we played oh god so we played what did we play it was tales of the arabian nights fine i i won that and then the last two games were cosmic gun fight and right right right right right right yes yeah you're you're feeling me and the uh the last one was um hocus pocus bally which is you could not pick two more grindy boring fucking games to end with when you're up for 21 you know four plus hours so i had 3.5 million on cosmic gunfight i played that thing forever and he came back and caught me anyway playing the longest third ball like ever just on and on and it's just a ball that never ends and it goes on and on my friends then he had 130 something k on hocus pocus and i had 115 k something like that i just could so you just short so we tied did you split the money or did you there you can split or you can play a playoff game on stars and there's no way i'm putting my my fate in the hands of stars what so we split pretty much uh i think there was at least five or six other groups where they had ties and they all split so we split wow yep and who won uh bowen karen's one like he always does surprise surprise it's it's kind of the bowen karen's open at this point unless he gets like bad acidic diarrhea or something during the night. I can't see him not winning this. Unless something physically happens to him. Sweep the leg, Daniel. Sweep the leg. Sweep the leg, Johnny. I mean, he's the only former world champion who plays in this. So none of the kids, you know, the ones that dominate everything, none of them play in this. Like, what's up with that? Maybe they're smarter than us. That is true. That is true. No, but the Sanctum has a great place. A lot of good games I saw were there. Yeah. Congratulations to Bowen for yet another victory. I think this is three or four in a row. Something like that. I think it is, yeah. Yeah. So, very cool. Yeah, I got to play. They had an X-Men there. They had a lot of newer. They had X-Men. They had Scooby-Doo there. Yeah. They had Rush. They had. Yeah. Which was broken, and we never played it. They moved Viper to a different location. That threw me off. I was used to it being in that same spot it's been in forever. Yeah, in the middle. Yeah, it was not in the middle, but it was still there. Thank God. Got to have my Viper. Well, you have another Viper to use. That's true. That is true. Where would that Viper be? That would be at the Rochester Pinball Collective. Good Lord. It's the all plug episode. It is the whole plug. Yes, the whole plug. Very good. The whole plug. Nothing but the butt plug. So it's the whole plug. Is it W-H-O-L-E or H-O-L-E? Both. Okay. The whole plug. The whole plug. Okay. I'm writing that down. There's the title. Yes. The whole plug. The whole plug. All right. So you played Nat, and then you drove home. Yeah. Well, yeah. Me and Zach drove to my house, and we slept for like – well, I slept for three hours. He slept for like two hours and 45 minutes because he left right before I got up. Then I went to Guptals to get my ice cream because it's their last of the year. This is their last day open until March of next year. And then I went to League. There you go. How did you do League? I took a third on the first game, which I should have taken last, and then I won the next three. There you go. Yep. Yeah, so I had League last night, and I finished with 10 points out of 15 max. So I was in fifth. Not bad. I'm in third in the league right now. And that's for a retired guy, so not too shabby. But Zach's in 20th because he missed the night. Zach usually dominates us. And a big shout-out to Jeanette. She has won both nights so far in our league with a 15 out of 15 and a 13 out of 15. Most impressive. Impressive. And she just had a baby like seven months ago. Mm-hmm. Kicking ass in all the different ways. Let's see. What else? Try to think if there's anything else from the sanctum. See a lot of people that you knew? Did anyone come up to you and say, hey, Rod, how's it going? Everyone knows everyone, Bruce. It's the same group of people. It usually is. Well, there's usually one or two or three different ones. There might be some new ones that are just like, I want to try this out. Like, oh, my God, what am I thinking? I mean, we had Nicole from my league. Yes. 5-1-8-er. She did it. and then she was like, Ron, are you going to league tomorrow? And this was like, by this time it like three in the morning and I like you mean today Am I going to league Yeah So she went to league too There you go And also played well So there you go Sleep is overrated It's way overrated. Then the very next weekend I went to, which was actually yesterday. Yesterday. Pastimes Arcade for their big Pinberg-like tournament where it's match play. So I guess it's not pin burping. I guess I just match play. I'll just say it. You're not playing three or four games per round. No, no, no. You're not. But you're playing 20 rounds, one game per round. They didn't do Swiss seeding, which was actually kind of nice. You don't play with the same people over and over and over. Yeah. So you actually move around. Although somehow I ended up being on, out of the 20 rounds, I ended up being on Fishtails three times and Mata Hari three times. ah the the perfectness of match play the perfectness of the random quote-unquote draws with like um let's see uh let's see how many games they had i wonder what the odds are of that happening let me see uh past times arcade well well they actually had two tournaments they had a warm-up tournament on friday and then they had the main like they called mega match play tournament. Make your backs play. Make your backs play. We see that. 31 arenas. Okay, so 31 games. Okay, so you had the three games out of 20 rounds, which is 15% on one game for 31 games. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah. Needs to be more randomly random. Randomly random. Andreas, get going. So, I parlayed my good play into into the Friday strikes tournament. I thought I did pretty well for me. I was there to near the end. I got 12th. Nice. Out of 82 people. Nice, nice. Zach got one more round on me. He ended up 10th. Of course he did. The winner was Tim Caro. Congratulations. Congratulations. Because it's actually updated here, you see. I can actually look at it and see the winner. No fucking way. Oh, my God. You won't believe this. I can actually go and see who won the other tournament, too. No. Yeah. I'm going to keep harping on that. Actually, that one I got to look up because the finals I was not in. So, yeah, I didn't do well at all, actually, in that tournament. I think I – you ever have one of those days where it's just not happening? That's every day of my life. This was the day, man. That was every day of my life. Accuracy was at an all-time low. Oh, that's typical for you. Well, even worse than usual. And any flip or flubs of any kind, like that. We're out there. That, like, live, not live catch, that trap that didn't quite work and the ball kind of went out of control leads to drain every fucking time. Like, to the point where it was getting comical. Like, if I made even the slightest thing, it's like, okay, where's this draining? Oh, there it goes. Yep. Yep. Don't get another chance there. Sorry. Nope. It was one of those days. I did get to play Elton John again, though. A different one. They had Elton John there, and it was the collector's edition. I got to see the topper in action. It was to have a super high ceiling, so it really made it look impressive. That's cool. The whole side of the room is like ceilings lighting up with Elton John. That's cool. Yes. What else? Oh, I probably should say who won. So the winner was Gregory Kennedy. Congratulations. Congratulations. Where did Zach end up? He actually made finals, unlike the rest of us in the group that went. Where did he finish? Let's see. Standings. Zach, you finished 14th. Ah, so there you go. Yep. The location itself was nice. Good job. Rob Burke. Rob Burke's place there. I liked all the video games they had. Yeah, they do have a lot of video games. Yeah, which is good if they want to actually do business. Yeah. Because they're going to get you more than the pinball. Yeah. Hey, did you pick up the video game for me when you were coming back for the Sanctum? No. I told him to pick up something for me on the way back and see how he is with me. Just ignores me. Yeah, completely ignored you. I didn't even take that seriously. This is a game he loves. This is a game he loves. What game was it again? Gridiron Fight. Oh, okay. Sorry. Fail. Yeah, but the location is excellent. They had, I did the usual stuff I do if they have certain games. They're like a double dragon there. It's like, okay, I've got to get through Double Dragon. I played it, and the player one joystick was all fucked up. So I just played a two-player game and just played. I played as the other guy and beat the shit out of the first player, who is now on man, to get him out of the way, and then I made it all the way through. So, done. Pole position and steering wheel was messed up. And if you try to turn really fast, it wouldn't turn at all. It wouldn't turn at all. Which you can't. The opto in there is bad. You can't do that. You need to make that one extreme left turn. And if you can't, you're screwed. I did put all these issues in. They had nice little QR codes, and you could put these issues in. Like I had one where a ball got stuck, and I put, like, stuck ball. And literally as I'm walking away from the game, the guy comes over, like, stuck ball? Like, wow, that's a fast service right there. They had Dragon's Lair there. I could not get through this thing. Wow, they about to have it on hard. Well, here's the thing. I figured out why. On Dragon's Lair, there's hard and then there's extra hard. Yes, there is. There's four levels. And there's all these different settings where you can make it. It starts at easy and then gets to hard. It starts at easy and gets to extra hard. Extra hard is basically impossible. An extra hard. Your timing has to be perfect. Well, extra hard. I looked at this because I kept dying on the same five boards. And I looked it up. when it's on extra hard if you get one of these five boards you will randomly get them and they will be at different all the timings will be completely different than they normally are and you have no way of knowing this there's no way to discern that you're in the extra hard version of this board instead of the you know regular or just hard version of the board yeah that's insane i i looked at this do they want people not to finish this and the only way there's no set order to the boards in dragon's lair but there it kind of is they're kind of if you play it enough you'll know like okay one of three different boards is coming up next probably so i guess one of the tricks in getting through this extra hard stuff is these five boards will not be in places they normally are so you have to know this like if you get the one with the moving floor like the floor rocks up and down and no no no moving floor and then you've got to go through the left door yes that one that's usually near the end forward if you get it it's actually down up left yeah but yes and then forward again after no no there's only three moves i think we're thinking of the wrong board it's the one it's like a checkered floor that moves it moves up it rocks and down up yeah and then there's some fire and there's two doors and you got to pick the right door but the uh this is a lot about pinball here isn't it so but but basically if it comes up really early then it's like oh okay this has to be the extra hard version so then you have to know what the different timings are which i have no idea what any of those are but when it's the extra hard sometimes they're not in a different spot sometimes they're in the same spot they normally are and so there's no way so what was i supposed to do complain like could you please go open the game up and change these dips which his police i'd really like to get through this game well you think you want to have people that enjoy the game instead of making it so hard that people don't enjoy the game i think i was probably the only one playing it but hey that's the problem well i don't think anyone else would have played a verse let's see what else they had all the the big the big names there if you will all the big games that you could think of star wars cockpit yeah oh not cockpit they had a stand-up and newer ones they had um smash tv let's play smash tv so that that's what i played during the round or between the rounds that's what i was usually playing wow yep and then they had the row of all the crazy european games yeah they've got a lot of crazy european games yeah ones with lots of nudity and stuff like that's great that's what's all about Wow. They had a Japanese EM there that was from Sega. Sega. And it has magnets in it. Nice. You hit it in one section, it's like the power is taking your ball. It's wild. Hmm. Yeah. The thing is, though, a lot of those games... They're not fun. No, they kind of suck. No, they're not. A good portion of them suck pretty bad. Suck, yes. There are exceptions, but... No, there's a couple exceptions, but they're mostly bad. But, yeah, most of them are pretty bad. Yeah. I played one. It's like Funky Town or something, and I'm looking at it. It's like, I've played this before. This is Rock. It's Gottlieb Rock. And somehow they made it so they changed the inlanes and stuff and the angle so it plays shitty. Because I actually like Rock. Yes, I like Rock too, actually. But it's like you made Rock play like shit. Congratulations. Congratulations, Europe. You have failed. But yeah, I recommend everyone go there. Pastimes. It's like in an old supermarket. Yes. Yep. Oh, and they have like the diner area. Diner area. The food area is like a 50s diner looking, which I like. And they had milkshakes, you know, made the correct way. And that's what I had. With milk and shake. Yep. I had one each day, so it was good. Very happy. Your stomach was happy? Oh, yeah. It was fine. It was fine with the milkshake. Yeah, kudos to Past Times. You guys rock. I recommend. If you're in Ohio, go check them out. Go to their next event, whatever that may be. It's a long drive, though. It is a long drive. It's what, four and a half hours? Three and a half hours to get to Zach's house, and then four plus hours to get there. Yeah. Ah, so much driving. It is. You usually hate that. I'm burned out on driving, and passenger, in this case. That's one of the main reasons, Bruce, I won't be there in December. You will be. I'll make sure of it. I'm going to guilt you. You can guilt me all you want. I'm going to be there. I will be there for the – The thing I'm not at. Sorry. I want to play more X-Men. I'm addicted to X-Men. It's a good game. I want to play more X-Men. Oh, they had Space Hunt there at past times. I got to play that game. All the games I just played at Expo are now back there because they're the same games. Yes, they are. Space. hunt and i hit that ram that i i couldn't hit at expo there you go i hit it like twice in a row after all my complaining about it so all right that's all i got we're done you got all right done okay we got news you ready for news i'm ready all right this is pretty much all from nap arcade hi nap arcade hello mr nap hello mr nap okay we got remember butch peel remember he left chicago gaming yep because he didn't like their direction or whatever the hell he said. Well, now he's at Barrels of Fun. So he's going to be having fun at Barrels of Fun making manuals. So we'll all be happy when there's manuals made. He'll also be doing tech support, I guess. Speaking of Chicago Gaming, they're finally making the LEs for Pulp Fiction. I know. Only been two years almost. Yeah. They're making them for Europe right now. Supposedly they'll be done for the U.S. by, they're hoping, March, which is about, that's two years since it was initially shown. Pretty bad. So you think that's pretty bad, two years? Yeah. Not as bad as Dutch, but hey! Supposedly there were delays with the topper because the figurines on it, when they got them, they were the wrong size. Ah. Whoops. Hate when they're too big or too small. Mm-hmm. Hate when it just doesn't fit. It doesn't fit at all. Mm-hmm. Let's see. We also have some news from American. America. American Pinball. That's right, baby. American Pinball. You know what they fix. What's the American dream of American Pinball? You know we're retiring old games, baby. Did you hear that? That's right, baby. Houdini, Oktoberfest, and Legends of Alhada are being retired, baby. So that's going to leave them with two games. Well, I think they have Houdini's on the line now. Yeah, that's last time. I guess that's the last one. So that means, baby, we'll be making some Hot Wheels, baby. We're making some berry oath barbecue and some galactic tank for a faction, baby. And whenever Cuphead comes out. So you think Cuphead, they're going to be at the, what is it? A-A-O-M. I never remember that. A-M-O. A-M-O-A. There you go. Yeah, you always remember that. I never remember that. Yeah, the one in Florida. Amusement Music Owners Association. Yeah. So maybe when they're at that, they'll be revealing Cuphead. We know you're really excited for Cuphead. Dead. Silence. They had a Cuphead at Past Times, the video game. How's that? Everyone was clamoring by that, wasn't they? I saw people playing it. It's weird seeing games like that. You see, like, was it Fix-It Felix there? Fix-It Felix! You know, pretending to be old school arcade games. It's really computer inside. Let's see. Oh! Oh! So remember Pirates of the Caribbean, that Jersey Jack game? Remember how it has no wizard mode? Now it does. Now it does, if you're a beta tester. I know. It's like a beta version 14 or something. Now has the final wizard mode. The final countdown. So we're at, what, five, six years? Five, six years, yeah. Something like that from the original. It was originally released. that's we're still updating code for our games well it was never really done i guess better late than never yeah yeah for the 300 people that have the game uh maybe 400 maybe do you know you're probably not that far off i'm not that far off on that one there's less people own dialed in though so you can always You can always have a smile on your face over that. Elton John is awesome. Play it again, and it's still a great game. Wow, Bruce likes a new game. I like a new JJP game even more. Wow, you like Elton John and you like X-Men. Are you sure you're feeling okay, Bruce? I'm feeling good. Are you sure? Yep. Okay. Yep, got Crocodile Rock, and then I put on the, what's it called, the Rocket Man, you know, together. Oh, yeah, so you got the crocodile riding the rocket. Yep The Crock Rocket Crock Rocket Turner Pinball sold out of ninja eclipse all 100 for the uh low price of what was it 69 yeah yeah yeah 69 why you remember it very good bruce wow i actually pay attention wow wow go fucking figure so yeah under games definitely the expo, it threw it over the edge. People saw it there and it's like, hey. It actually looked that bad. It's definitely not $12,500 like certain other games. But yeah. Don't worry. Congratulations. Hopefully they can make them. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Come on down to the Crash and Burn Project. Maybe something positive will come out of Deep Root. At least they didn't try to make a former Deep Root game. Oh, that would have just – Oh, give him time. Oh, you think you're – Oh, I guarantee it. Oh, no. Don't do that, Turner. Don't do that. Just keep the stink off of you. Do not do that. Zombies! No. No. Pinbar! Pinbar. Yeah, it's going to be hard to rock the way we did the last episode with the pinbar and the Dutch and everything else. They can't all be winners, folks. No. No. No, we're low on material here. We're low on material, and someone's going on vacation soon, so fire it. What? You're going on vacation? I'm going on vacation. When is that, Bruce? Leave it this weekend. Oh, this weekend? Yes. So you'll be away. I'll be gone until I won't be back for a while. Oh. Oh, yeah. So you'll be cruising on the ELL Antonio Cruz Line? Yes, the ELL Antonio Cruz Line. And every night's a different cover band of ELL, every era. And then we'll throw in some traveling blueberries on there, too. I'll be in Mexico on Thanksgiving Day. Very good. Yes, I will. Hopefully we get some nice Carl Weathers. Let's all hope for nice Carl Weathers for Bruce. All hope for any nice Carl Weathers or Bruce's wife will be very cranky, which means I'll be very upset. Ooh, we can't have that. Can't have that. That's all the news, Bruce. That is all the news that's news to fit. that's used to fit yes it's fit to print there hasn't been um any other big stuff going on i don't know no no no i mean expo kind of blew everyone's load and now it's yep do you think there'll be any more games released this year no so so no cuphead i don't think so no no no dungeons and dragons no no dragons will be january okay they're gonna be january all right that's usually when they do their first title so they had the full 12 months to have if there's any issues you still have a lot of time in the year oh oh i did hear that the company that makes was a super hope in the tokyo perfect drift remember their factory burnt down yes well it's been rebuilt and they're actually making tokyo perfect drifts right now nice yeah i actually kind of like that game like i said the last episode but again i would not consider buying one because who else is going to fix it if it breaks. Hey, what the fuck it up. We'll do it good. No, it's not made in Italy. It's in Spain, you fool. Are you going to start doing cucaracha? You're going to just offend everyone. Yes. Ole! Yes. You get it out of your system. Do Speedy Gonzales. You can do that. Okay. Okay. Okay. I like Olay better because, you know, you get the bullfighting. That will be the next one. You can put your red cape in between the flippers, and then you can pull it away at the last second. You can see your flippers for that time. Okay. Ready for the ball bag? I'm always ready for my ball bag. It's pretty like ball bag, Bruce. Oh, you people. What the hell? Well, I mean, last episode was just two weeks ago. Okay. Oh, I should. Well, you know why? I don't think I gave out our email address last episode. That's why. That's why. Guess what? Do your job, buddy. Yes. If you want to write to the ball bag, please write to us at slam till podcast at gmail.com. That's slam till podcast at gmail.com. This one is from Chase. Hey, Chase. The subject. I don't like the subject. It says Bruce is right. Part two. Electric boogaloo. Fuck a lot. I hate to say it, but I'm with Bruce on the fun. Funhouse remake. The one I flipped in Kansas City back in September played so poorly. To be fair, I already don't like Funhouse that much. I'm not a big Funhouse person either because it seems like every person I play it plays it to like 20 million. And I'm sitting there going, oh, my God. But the remake felt like 10 times more of a clunk fest. Yes, totally. It felt cheap. From Chase. There you go. See, Chase? Okay. I thought it was fine. But I guess multiple people are clunking it, clunking it. I heard, I think, another podcast. Someone said the same thing. So maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Nah. No, I totally agree with that one. Let's see. This one is from Tom. He says, howdy, boys. Howdy. Ron and Bruce. Good day. First, wanted to make a comment in the last episode concerning Wile E. Coyote. He, in fact, has talked a few times during a Roadrunner episode. Yes. Yes, actually. Yes, he has. I didn't get – I thought so, yes. Well, yeah, I kind of went off that where I was like – I talked about a trivia game I did where it said who did his – who did Wally Coyote's voice in the Roadrunner cartoons? And it had like Mel Blanc, two other people, and like he didn't talk. And I said that always pissed me off. It pissed me off because I put Mel Blanc and it said he didn't talk. And I'm like, bullshit. I've seen – they were later episodes. Yes, they were. They were later episodes, but they were still in the original whatever you want to call it. When they did the shorts up until, I think, 64. And then when they stopped making the short subjects, there was a couple where Wile E. Coyote. And in those episodes, to be fair, they show clips from previous episodes. But he just does narration of, you know, well, why do I want to get the Roadrunner? because, you know, he has whatever. He shows a chart on all his meat that's on a Roadrunner and how it's the best ever and all this stuff. He actually spoke in five originals. Yeah. Operation Rabbit, To Hair is Human, Rabbit Feet. Yeah, see, those are the ones with Bugs Bunny. Yes, yes. Compressed Hair, and in The Adventures of Roadrunner he speaks in also. Yes, that's probably the one I'm thinking of. So it's probably one. And it's just a flashback episode of previous times. They were probably getting cheap at the end in the mid-60s. Yeah, they probably were. Yeah. Let's see. One specifically where Wiley explained the different ways to prepare and why he wants to eat them. There you go. There's the one I remember. Yep. And now we return to Make It Pro. Make It Pro. Make It Pro, sir. This episode's assignments are as follows. As usual, three changes. Three changes only. No more. No less. to make these games pro. Roadshow. Okay. Ooh, that is so much shit on it. Red and Ted, gone. No, you can't take the heads. Yes! It's the whole gimmick. It's like if you did Iron Man without Monger. I would say take him out. Okay, no bulldozer part. No bulldozer part. The bulldozer, the thing that goes in front of you. That comes in front of him. Okay, so that's gone. Yep. No shaker motor. Okay. You don't need it. Only it's only used in two modes and in the final mode. Third one. Get rid of her song. Jesus. That's three changes. Every little thing. Come on. Come on. Oh, it's a terrible fucking song. Let's see. What would I get rid of? So you got to keep the heads. Nope. I don't. Yes, you do. No, you're wrong. Big gobble holes. You can remove... Double plunger. You can take away the double plunger. Take away, yeah. Well, yeah, you got to take away that whole section. Yeah, I agree totally. Take away the radio. Oh, that's a cheap plastic. You know, the radio. Just make a cheap plastic there instead. It was a cheap plastic. Well, at least it's 3D, though. I know, yeah. What else? There's so many wire forms. There's got to be way... Yeah, actually, if you got rid of the side plunger, you'd get rid of a bunch of the wire form crap. Mm-hmm. Getting rid of the shaker. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Get rid of the shaker. Get rid of the shaker. So we agree on one of the three. All right. Let's see. Oh, Baywash. Let's see. I'll start easy. Get rid of the shark flipper. Yep. Entirely. It'll just come down to the in lane anyway, so you don't need it. The other two, though. Oh, get rid of the big DMD. Just make it a regular DMD. I was just going to say, the big DMD is gone. Regular DMD. Yep. And get rid of the lock area. Yeah, it's not needed. Just virtual lock. Virtual lock it. Virtual lock so it doesn't have all that crap. You hit the ramp, it's a lock. And for extra points, you get rid of what's-his-name in the multiball. What, Hasselhoff? The guy that used to run Papa. Oh, Jesus. Okay, that's Kevin Martin. He's not in the multiball. He's in the video mode. No, he's in the multiball. No, he's in one of the modes. He tried to save him from the water. He's floating in the water. Oh, okay. That's the one you get rid of, so it's cheaper there. Jesus Christ. You're so mean. All right. Okay. Pirates of the Caribbean, Stern. Oh, God. Well, first you move the ship. Ship is a static bash toy. It doesn't sink. Yeah, it's terrible. Second is the spinner up on top. Just make it a ramp, and you use flippers. I don't know, but something different. Yeah, no mix master. Or magnets. Just a magnet. That's all he needs. It's a magnet. No, Mixmaster. We've got to cut that out. It's a motor. Let's take that out. Save some money. And the stupid top, the left plastic, where the way you plunge and it goes all the way up top and you only have the three things or the drop hole. Get rid of that whole fucking ramp. Just plunge it up top. You know, plunge it somewhere else. Okay. And alternate, you could, the chest, just make it so it's always open or static like the lid doesn't open. because it's completely, it just opens the show of the heart. It did that because it was like a mystery of what was actually in the chest. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. You know. Okay. Yeah, no, definitely. Let's see. Tom says also, Ron, you mentioned that you didn't see me at Expo. I saw you one point and was going to come up and say hi, but you were in a conversation with a few people, and I didn't want to be rude and interrupt. Have a great day. Excuse me. Next time, anybody, if Ron's talking to someone, you just walk up to him and you fucking hug him that's all you do that's all you do permission from bruce it's better than hugging fuck me no but that permission is granted by bruce oh permission is granted by you for what people can do to me okay make it so all right yes all right such a nice guy i am the best yes you are the best guess what guess what you don't get to hug me until 2026 oh my god that's the big announcement i'm making oh 2026 will be oh that's the year of expo the year of expo yes two years in advance he is calling it he is going to be calling my shot i'm calling the shot expo 2026 yep of course you did that the last episode but yeah no i'm gonna call i'm telling everyone to start booking you know it's gonna sell it's gonna sell out just to meet you are you going to be at the autograph session bruce no not at all no no you meet you can actually come up to me during the whole show and just say hey i hear your voice so i know it's you no they'll just come up to you hey fuck you asshole i hope so god i hope so god i hope so i want a picture of you with like lonnie roth on one arm and dwight sullivan on the other arm yeah and they're both giving you the finger like fuck you that would be fucking awesome and the best would be i'd be glad i've given the face like well it's the truth all right um that's all i got you got any repairs bruce yes all right i actually pulled off afm well first i pulled off medial madness because we have pulled off oh yeah pulled off the floor because uh the third ball lock is not working and there's no bulbs in it it's leds and it's the whole big humongous monster board so we have to try to figure that out but wait wait which game is this medieval madness oh okay well you said that last episode i know but we pulled it off the floor but we had to put it back on the floor because my afm play field is starting to chip oh it's shipping by the lock inserts of course like they all do but luckily i have i have a secret weapon in rochester her she is awesome she is one of the best restorers in the united states uh-huh and she's coming over to clear it seal it clear it does she have a name and it's ashley okay she's awesome so i had to pull that off the floor but medieval been its place for right now with just the two ball lock lights and uh she's gonna come in this week while i'm gone and uh we'll hopefully get that fixed up and then put that back on the floor, pull out Medieval Madness, and work on that. Also, Nineball with the Optos down for the drain is working excellent, and I think that they'll go on the floor soon. The Optos. The Optos are replacing the microswitches. Yes. So it doesn't lose track of anything. It's awesome now. Awesome. So we're going to probably put that on the floor, and then we're probably going to have those two guys on to talk about that and other projects they are working on. Those two guys. Which are the two owners of the RPC, Brian and Jared. So we've had all the owners on. No, we've never had. We never had them on, right? No, we never had Mark on. We did have those two guys on. Brian and Jared were on because they talked about the speaking board for the Sterns. We've got to get Mark on. We've got to ask him about Haggis and all. Yeah, how the Haggis stories were. Oh, gosh. Yeah, we've had four to five owners on. Two are always on. And you're like the sixth owner. I'm the sixth owner. What else do I got? Zach's timeline is almost ready to go on the floor. I put Counterforce on the floor. Gottlieb goodness. Yes, we have. What else is on the floor? Little Chief is on the floor now. I like how we have all this Gottlieb goodness. And those who have been listening to this show from the beginning know Bruce is supposedly the Gottlieb hater. Well, Counterforce is a great game. So you know that. But I did sell my only Gottlieb to you So what does that tell you But you want a replacement Yeah I do And that Countdown for those at home Yeah And then what else came on the floor Oh, Spanish Eyes on the floor. Oh, cool. Spanish Eyes. Spanish Eyes at the RPC now. We're just trying to build up some games in the back. BK2 is in the back getting redone. Medieval was back there. Now it's AFM. And what else came off the floor? Oh, we put Tommy on the floor also. Tommy, can you hear me? You can use my head to steer you. You still love that, don't you? Yes, I do. And what else is back there? Isn't it cleared out yet? You said it was going to be cleared out. It was cleared out. Now it's back. And then I got a game to work on in December, a Harley Davidson third edition. Oh, is that the stern one? Yeah, that's the stern one. Yeah, it's going to be painful. It's got the motorcycle goes up and down. Yeah, motorcycle up and down. Yeah. So that's my fun for the next couple of weeks when I get back. And then we got the big tournament on the 13th and 14th and 15th. In December, yes. In December. And then Christmas comes up and whammo, we're into the next year already. Ho, ho, ho. Ho, ho, ho. I am not a ho. You're the one that called me it. What do you want under your stocking? In your stocking, Bruce. What do you want in your stocking for Christmas? I want, what do I want? It's so hard to choose them. I want Ryan C in my stocking. Oh, God. Because he does always good around Christmas. i'll just stick with world peace wow that ain't happening but wow that ain't happening we can always dream everyone voted though can thank you for voting everyone may not been the people everyone wanted but people voted that's all i asked for oh they did that because you asked them i asked them there's i saw that the statistics like this is all the people voted because bruce They went down 15 million. No, I'm just glad people should vote. Always. It's your right. Use it. It's your constitutional right. Yep. You got a right to fight. And party. Yes, the new Beastie Boys game. Coming soon. Oh, God, no. No. I'm waiting for the NSYNC game with the bye-bye-bye. Bye-bye-bye. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye. Well, we still have the Taylor Swift game. Oh, God, no. It's so funny that a guy I follow on YouTube, people send him all kinds of stuff to see, is this using Auto-Tune? Is this person lip-syncing? Is this, you know, et cetera, et cetera. So he went over, like, her last tour. And basically, her entire concert is just a backing track. Yes. The same backing track. so the band's not even really playing. Nope. So if you sync up the concerts, they're in perfect sync, like every song, which is impossible unless it's literally the same track playing. She's singing, but with heavy auto-tune applied for whatever reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did people care, though? I guess not, because she sells a ton of fucking tickets. I know, dude. Do you care if no one's actually playing live and everyone's auto-tuned? I do, but other people, you know. Well, I mean. I know Gene Simmons would never take that. Didn't they do that? Didn't they use backing tracks, Kiss? Yeah. What are you saying, Bruce? We do whatever it takes to make the audience happy. See, we're about the fans. We're Kiss. So what else do I got in my plans this next month or two? I've got to finish the play field on Quicksilver. That's the next goal. Oh, finally. Yep. Get that done, and then I'm going to bring down the, The hopefully Stargazer, the co-owned one I have, and I'll get the play field back from Vance, and then we'll start digging into that. Yay. That'll probably be next year, probably like February. Nice. It's nice and cold out. That's when it will be snowing. I never mentioned anything, Bruce. I know. I know. Yay, yay, yay. What are you repairing? Did I do anything? did you fix your uh stargazer my stargazer oh no i haven't gone through any of that yet wow that's great yeah i did go through all all the games putting the settings back to where they normally are not not stop level settings yeah yeah that's about it that's about it wow yeah i'm really busy as you can see i see that i have been very busy at work and i have had no time to do any of this shit, to be honest. We're doing a rush of crap to try to get it done before the change freeze. We're replacing the firewalls at all 50 plus locations. So we're all doing after hours shit where I get to go to branches after they close and replace firewalls when there's no room. It's great. Is it a vault and you can do like, cash grab! Hey, some of our things are in vault rooms. See, cash grab. But the vault is closed. Yes, if you had a catchphrase, that must be it at this point. It is fucking it. That is it. It is so true, though. But, I mean, I can't fault the companies for doing cash grabs because they need to stay in business. It's going to come back. It's going to come back to haunt them. It hasn't so far. Yeah, it will. It will. Well, okay. You heard it here. Yeah. I got nothing else. Okay. Where do they get in touch with us, Ron? They can get in touch with us, and I'll mention it a second time. Make up for the time I didn't mention it at all last episode. At our email address, slamtillpodcast.gmail.com. You can check out our website, www.slamtillpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner. Check us out. Check us out. Follow us on Facebook. Follow us on Facebook. Like us on Instagram. Like us on Instagram. Have we posted anything? I haven't posted anything on Instagram in forever. I do post on Twitter, but that's just to say a new episode is ready. Yes. Say hi to everyone in our cluster, Vuck. Yes. Hello, everybody. Hi, Zach. Hi. Hi. Pinball Princess. Fun with Bonus. Everyone. There's a tournament coming up the week before. I think it's the week before for up in Canada. The Maple Leaf Open or Maple. I forget what it is. It's coming up the week before? Wow. Before the final. I'm getting all the information now, so give me two fucking seconds. I'm sorry. Yes, yes. I'm not as refined as you. Yes. We'll just awkwardly wait for Bruce to put the pressure on. Yes, we will. Jeff Teolis. Oh, Jeff Teolis. Yes. Yes. He had Josh Sharpe on again. He did. So he could make fun of him. What else is new? Although Josh Sharpe did confirm he was indeed in second place once again at the Expo Classics tournament. We weren't sure because the bracket wasn't done. Yeah, we can't tell these things. We can't tell these things. I can't find this fucking post. It's like the Maple Leaf something. The Maple Leaf Gardens? Maple Leaf Open, I think it is. Maple Syrup Open? Maybe Maple Syrup. Let me try. Maple Syrup. Nope, not Maple Syrup. They call it the A Open? A. A. Maybe a little pinball. I could do random voices while you're doing it. Well, you know, Brother Robert, you're always back here. You know my judgment's supposed to be coming next month, dude. We're going to find out if the judge says I've got to pay all this money that I'm not going to pay anyway. Wowzers. Ask Jeff. There's a tournament in December. Ask Jeff DeAulis, yes, about a tournament in December. Jeff is awesome. He is one of the best people I know. So he actually – Jeff did a nice thing for me at the World Series. The World Series. Like the actual World Series. The actual World Series, yes. Ah, the World Series, yes. Yes. He sent me a picture. They have the things – hold on. Give me two seconds. Now I have to get to that. Hold on. See how prepared Bruce is. By the way, Bruce is the one who came up with the time that he wanted to record. So Jeff sent me a picture, and they have the stand-up for the cancer thing, and he put my name at the World Series. There you go. That was really fucking cool. And the Yankees suck. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm going to say about that. Yeah, yeah. Very disappointing. Very disappointed. I started watching the Sumo has started up again in Japan. They have it every two months, so they're doing the November. And I do notice in the crowd I saw, like, a Dodgers jersey. I saw another person wearing a Dodgers hat. Yeah. The Otani effect. Surprise, surprise. Mm-hmm. People love a winner. Yes, they do. And we don't like losers. The Yankees season was a complete and utter failure. No, we made it. At least we got a pennant. We just didn't get the big pennant. Fail. Fail. Fail. I'm sure Jeter would agree with me. It's a fail. It's a failure. I'll take an AL pennant. We haven't had one of those in a little while. I want the whole enchilada next year. Yeah. Yeah. Was it 2009? Nine, yeah. Yeah, last time they – back when the Core 4 was still there. I'll take a pennant still. It's not as good as the big pennant, but I'll take the little AL pennant. The little pennant. Little pennant. Little pennant. Okay, man. Yeah, I think – did I do everything? Yeah, I think I did everything. I think you did. I just got to get to the name. You got to get to the name. I got it. But thanks, everybody. When are you coming back? We're doing more episodes this year, right? Yes, we are. Yes, we are. We're going to plug the last time. I'm coming back. I will be back in the country. We can do it Sunday the 1st. How does that sound? At night. Oh, okay. Sunday, December 1st, at night. Okay. That sound good? So we won't be around for a little while. That's really only an extra week, Bruce. You made it sound like you're going to be gone forever and we're going to some kind of hiatus. It's going to be fucking awesome. I'm actually not at the RPC for three weeks straight. That's going to be totally weird. But it's going to be great. You're not going to want to come back. No. What? Where? Why? Exactly. Once again, thanks to everybody. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Thanks for another year ending. Yes. Year nine is going to be even better this year. It is? It is. You realize year nine won't actually start to like June or something? I know, but guess what? Year 10 will be 2026. Expo 10 years. Maybe we'll get something going. I like your plugging two years in advance. This is forward thinking right here. See? God, what would you do without me with my marketing skills? Thanks to everyone at the Sanctum. You run a great tournament. Past times. Thanks to everyone there. Just wanted to make sure I say thanks to everybody. It's so weird to not do one that's two hours long, Bruce. Yeah, it kind of sucks. Yeah. It sucks that Ron doesn't have to do as much editing. Exactly, but I want more emails this time. Come on, you bastards. Wow. Okay. I want a lot of emails when I come back in December. And make sure those emails say about the other podcasts that I do so I get to say it over and over. Nope. We'll just edit that out. No, there's no editing, Bruce. No, no, we edit. Yes, there is. No, we never edit. You edit all the time. No, I never edit. Yes, you do. Yeah. You can't even say it with a straight face, folks. Folks, I'm on a podcast with Bruce. There's no way. Yeah, you're just fucking editing. If you ever wonder why we don't – like a lot of the podcasts now, they're doing like the video thing. So they have – on YouTube, they got the video. Oh, can we please do that once? Come on. We'll do it once. God, no, no. Because then I could still edit him, but there would be obvious cuts. You see Bruce all of a sudden just move. Wow, that's like seven or eight cuts there. I wonder what Bruce said. We can't have that. A lot of cuts. Bruce is out of control. Out of control. O-C, O-C. Out of control. What's that from? Is that Party Zone? Yeah, I think it's Party Zone. Yeah. Yeah. I own that. Captain Bizarre. Wow, you've owned everything. Yeah. Like every game ever. Yeah, it's got Stewie on the side art. It's great. Stewie before he was even created. Stewie? Stewie's on the side art? Yes. Oh, really? It's the side art of a party zone, and you'll see Stewie. I'm on there? Yes, you are. Oh, my God. It's so incredible. It's young, too. It's like a young kid. Well, Bruce, I'm kind of young. I'm a baby freaking idiot. Come on. By the way, Bruce. Yeah? Where's my money? For what? Where's my money? Tell me. For what? Where's my money? My money. Where's my money, Bruce? Where's my money? Bruce is getting all like, Bruce, it's a bit, you know, the episode. I know, that's what I'm saying. For what? Yep, Stewie's in the background on the left-hand side. Really? The right-hand side, yeah. I did not know this. He's next to Dracula. Oh. So go check that out. Look for Party Zone side art. Party Zone side art, and you will see Stewie on the side. Next to Dracula. Next to Dracula. Okay. Blah. Blah. Okay, until next time, folks. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, David Topham. We'll be right back. Oh my Oh my Oh my Oh my