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2025 NKY Pinball Open Matchplay Tournament

chuckwurt·video·10h 34m·held·Jul 7, 2025
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TL;DR

2025 NKY Open pinball tournament stream with matchplay format and expert commentary.

Summary

Chuck Wurt and Justin Schnetzer host the 2025 NKY (Northern Kentucky) Open Pinball Tournament in Cincinnati, a matchplay event with 10 qualifying rounds. The stream features tournament commentary, game tutorials, and discussions with experienced players like Elizabeth Gieske and Christopher Ditt Jr. about strategy, game setup, and pinball psychology. The event showcases machines including Grand Prix, Stars, and King Kong, with emphasis on venue quality, community atmosphere, and the mental aspects of competitive play.

Key Claims

  • The NKY Open is held near Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky, on the border of Cincinnati

    high confidence · Justin Mastersonson and Justin Schnetzer (hosts) state location explicitly

  • The tournament is not a Midwest major despite being located in the Midwest

    high confidence · Hosts confirm it is Midwest-located but explicitly state 'I don't think it is a major'

  • The tournament uses matchplay format with 7531 scoring

    high confidence · Hosts explicitly state tournament format at start of broadcast

  • The event includes 10 rounds of qualifying with a break at round 6

    high confidence · Hosts detail tournament structure in opening remarks

  • King Kong internal development code name was 'Rodeo'

    high confidence · Eric Wirtenberger confirms the code name and explains it was related to Greg Ferrer and 'last rodeo' reference

  • Grand Prix at this venue has very juiced spinners, similar to juicing at Arcade Legacy

    high confidence · Elizabeth Gieske states she copied Eric's spinner juice setup from his house to Arcade Legacy

  • Some players request not to be streamed and the organizers accommodate those requests

    high confidence · Hosts explain they switched games when one player requested privacy/not to be on stream

  • Elizabeth Gieske had a beer named after her (Gizski Fis)

    high confidence · Elizabeth confirms existence of beer named after her without knowing details beforehand

  • The NKY Open is held around July 4th and features a 't-shirt showcase' because participants wear t-shirts in the heat

    high confidence · Justin Schnetzer notes tournament is 'always around the 4th of July' and focuses on t-shirt displays

  • Eric Wirtenberger rewrote Jaws rules for pond attack mode to not require spin points

Notable Quotes

  • “This is my favorite tournament. And in Cincinnati, it's really great, too.”

    Eric Wirtenberger @ ~00:35:00 — Shows emotional investment in the NKY Open event; Eric is tournament director and host

  • “I don't feel nerves anymore. It's kind of cool. Yeah. But I kind of miss it.”

    Elizabeth Gieske @ ~00:18:00 — Reveals psychological evolution of experienced competitive players; loss of nervousness with experience

  • “It's just experience. Like you just got to keep playing more and then you got to work through the nerves.”

    Elizabeth Gieske @ ~00:19:00 — Advice on building competitive confidence through repetition

  • “I definitely play better when I'm in that calm, cool, collected place, but I am not as quick to get into that space.”

    Elizabeth Gieske @ ~00:20:00 — Discusses performance psychology and the challenge of achieving optimal mental state

  • “That's why generally the strategy is shoot collect, which is... I do believe it would be a more interesting game if the spinners weren't that juiced.”

    Justin Schnetzer @ ~00:52:00 — Commentary on Grand Prix game balance and spinner value dominance affecting strategy

  • “He got a code name for this game that we were all trying to frantically guess way back in the last NKY Open... This is Rodeo.”

    Eric Wirtenberger @ ~01:15:00 — Reveals King Kong's development code name and explains the inside reference

  • “I spent a year racking my brain trying to make a connection between rodeo and pinball and it turns out completely unrelated.”

    Justin Schnetzer @ ~01:16:00 — Shows the community's engagement with game development secrets and the humorous nature of code names

  • “If you just keep advancing map, you can get to that mode. That's cool. Maybe I just never got that far. I don't focus on map much when I play Congo.”

    Justin Schnetzer — Reveals gameplay strategy oversight; hosts discover previously unknown mode path

Entities

Eric WirtenbergerpersonJustin Schnetzerperson[name withheld pending review]personElizabeth GieskepersonChristopher Ditt Jr.personNorthern Kentucky Open (NKY Open)eventGrand PrixgameKing Kong: Myth of Terror Island

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: 2025 NKY Open streamed with professional commentary, multiple co-hosts, and player interviews; demonstrates growing sophistication of pinball tournament content production

    high · Stream features dedicated commentators, game tutorials, player interviews, technical production (name overlays, score tracking), and multi-host rotation

  • ?

    community_signal: Tournament organizers proactively respect player requests not to be streamed and accommodate by switching machines; shows player-centric approach to event management

    high · Hosts acknowledge player privacy request mid-stream, acknowledge difficulty if player reaches finals, and demonstrate flexibility in game selection

  • ?

    venue_signal: Venue machines heavily customized with tight difficulty settings; Grand Prix spinners heavily juiced; Jaws reel customized; creates distinctive playing experience at NKY Open

    high · Multiple references to Eric's machine setups being 'super super hard'; players comment machines are different at this venue vs other locations; commentary notes high spinners juice and tight feeds

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Complex game mechanics discussed including spinner value manipulation, bonus ladders, drop target combos, and risk/reward positioning; demonstrates rule depth in modern Stern titles

    high · Detailed tutorial discussions of Grand Prix strategies (collect vs rip), dead flips, drop catches, and spinner maximization; commentary on strategy trade-offs

  • ?

    design_innovation: King Kong features Dead Eye plunging mode that slows game but adds aesthetic value; designer Keith prototyped for 7 iterations before implementation; novel mechanical integration

Transcript

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0:06
Check, check, check, check, check. One, two. I'm going to give it a minute for folks to get on.
0:27
I made this track like three years ago in like 10 minutes because we just I knew we couldn't have copyrighted music. Yeah. Just having to wait. Yeah. It's super repetitive. Yeah.
0:58
Welcome, welcome to the 10 viewers who have already joined us. Welcome to the Northern Kentucky Open 2025. We are both Justin's. That's not Eric. I know I've gotten shorter. Eric's going Justin Mastersonson here with Justin Schnetzer and we are going to kick off uh our 2025 Northern Kentucky Open. I look forward to this all year. Yeah, this one in Cincinnati. I just absolutely love. Yeah. This is my first year here, so it's really cool to see uh some of these machines I never get to play. So, it's always cool to see. Yeah. This is your first year doing the open. Yes. So, how does this feel different maybe than some of the other tournaments that you've done? Uh it feels more like closer. I think it's it's definitely like everybody knows each other here and the machines like everybody understands like these machines are going to be super super hard. Yep. And uh it's definitely like when you tilt you're like, "Yep, it's Eric's machine." Yeah, I saw it coming. Yeah, I saw that coming. So, for sure. Uh, we're going to start, it looks like, on Game of Thrones, and let's take a look at our first match. Today, we have 10 rounds of qualifying, and uh those 10 rounds of qualifying. We'll take a break at round six for about half an hour, get some food, and then uh back for the final four rounds, and then we'll move on into our finals. It is matchplay format, 7531 scoring, and uh let's take a look at who is going to be playing on Game of Thrones. We've got Stu Eiswonger, Tanner Troyer, Lisa Arthur, and Greg Knight. So, fantastic group to start out.

high confidence · Eric directly states he rewrote rules and explains the change in detail

@ ~02:04:00

  • “This one was Rodeo. Never would have guessed King Kong... it's because of Greg Ferrer, I think... Greg Ferrer was the last rodeo type of thing.”

    Eric Wirtenberger @ ~01:16:00 — Reveals the logic behind internal code names is often personnel-based rather than theme-related

  • “We always try and respect the players. If they say, 'Hey, look, I really don't want to be on stream for any reason... we say, Hey, no problem. We'll work around that.'”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~00:03:00 — Shows tournament organizer ethics and accommodation of player privacy concerns during streaming

    • game
    Starsgame
    Stern Pinballcompany
    Arcade Legacyvenue
    Jawsgame
    Stranger Thingsgame
    Greg Ferrerperson
    Keithperson
    Iron Maidengame
    Congogame
    Sarahperson
    Summer Sheenperson
    Thomas Sheenperson
    Codyperson
    Match Playorganization
    Kim Marcoperson

    high · Eric and Justin discuss Dead Eye mode as unique feature; Keith wanted similar on Iron Maiden but didn't implement; took 7 game iterations to finalize for King Kong

  • ?

    product_concern: Stranger Things Demogorgon reel and Jaws reel cited as tight from factory; loosen over time with play or require manual adjustment; suggests manufacturing tolerance issue

    medium · Commentary notes reels are 'tight from factory supposedly' and loosen with play; venue manually loosened Stranger Things Demogorgon; similar pattern observed on multiple machines

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Competitive margins are razor-thin; Thomas Sheen won Grand Prix by <1000 points on final ball drain position variance (left drain worth 50 vs right drain worth 5); demonstrates luck element in competitive play

    high · Direct calculation showing Thomas beat Eric by less than 1000 points; commentary notes drain position literally determined match outcome

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Game development code names often reference personnel rather than theme; King Kong's 'Rodeo' connected to Greg Ferrer; reveals insider communication culture

    high · Eric explains Rodeo code name comes from 'last rodeo' reference to Greg Ferrer; Justin notes code names typically nonsensical and theme-unrelated

  • ?

    community_signal: Community interest in development secrets (code names); long-term speculation and speculation attempts; reveals fan engagement with game design process

    medium · Justin spent year trying to connect Rodeo to pinball before learning true source; community had previously guessed King Kong code name at last NKY Open

  • ?

    operational_signal: Tournament format: 10 qualifying rounds, matchplay 7531 scoring, break at round 6, finals structure; event organized around July 4th holiday timing

    high · Hosts detail complete tournament structure in opening; notes July 4th timing for heat/t-shirt showcase; break timing announced

  • ?

    venue_signal: Venue operator (Eric) puts substantial effort into machine preparation and hosting logistics; co-organizer Angie assists; reflects operator commitment to event quality

    high · Justin specifically calls out Eric and Angie's work in preparing machines and house; Eric describes tight maintenance standards for spinners and reels

  • ?

    technology_signal: Match Play platform used for tournament scoring/registration but experienced technical issues; some player names failed to display (new players or special characters cited as potential causes)

    medium · Chat mentions Match Play name display failures; hosts acknowledge issue and promise to report to Match Play; suggests platform has edge case bugs

    • 2:27
    And the question is, is this a Midwest major? I don't think it's a major. No, no, I don't think it is, but it's certainly Midwest. It is Midwest, right? We are located in Northern Kentucky, right on the border of Cincinnati. So, let me bring up our players and we will get off to the races. We have a whole lot of pinball to play today. Those 10 rounds. Each round tends to take what about 15 minutes. 15 20 minutes depending on who's playing that machine, how good they are. I've seen some people blow it up. Take a bit. That's right. And you're playing today. I am not playing today. So, good luck to you. Thank you. Yep. I get to play King Kong first round here. I am here streaming all day long. So, I look forward to being with you guys today as you tune in. Hopefully, you'll stay with us as much as you can.
    3:15
    Good time. Yeah, there's Steu right there. Stu always has the most colorful, amazing outfit. Yes, he does. He had a cool outfit on yesterday. Yeah, if they're ready to go. All right, let's do it. Let's see a minator on how to play this game, Game of Thrones.
    3:33
    Oh, okay. Oh, actually, we're going to move to another game. There's one person who said they didn't want to be on stream, so we will move over to a different game. And uh whatever game he picks, we'll run the mintorial for that. All right, sounds good. There's a good luck came through for you from Cobweb. Yeah, Cody. What up, Cody? So, we'll see where we go here. We always try and respect the players. If they say, "Hey, look, I really don't want to be on stream for any reason. They just don't like it or privacy reasons or whatever, we say, "Hey, no problem. We'll work around that." It does get more difficult if they make finals. Yeah, that's that's kind of the downside. That's where things get a little tricky. Yeah. All right. Looks like we're going to Grand Prix. I'm up. All right. Good luck. Let's show you how to play some Grand Prix.
    4:31
    All right, let's learn some Grand Prix pinball. Starting off on ball one, you'll see the left arrow is lit. That means at the end of your ball, whatever your bonus is on the left ladder, you will score that bonus. Balls 1, three, and five will use the left ladder for your end of ball bonus. Balls two and four will use the right ladder bonus. Bonus is increased by either spinner. The left or right spinner will increase its respective sides bonus ladder to a maximum of 50,000 points. Once you're at that maximum, each spinner will light for a,000 a spin. To collect your bonus mid ball, you can hit the left saucer or the right saucer to collect that side's respective bonus. Double bonus is hugely important in this game. To collect double bonus, you want to hit the A drop target and the B drop target or the C and the D drop target. Once you've done this, you will achieve double bonus for the rest of the ball. That counts for collects during the ball or when you drain out the out hole. Finally, the top saucer is worth 5,000 points, and whichever side is lit will advance that side's respective bonus. So, this game's all about ripping those spinners and collecting that double bonus. That's Grand Prix. Yeah.
    5:44
    Yep. That's Grand Prix in a nutshell. Not a tremendously complicated game. I think what you're going to see is a lot of people focusing on those left and right spinners. As Eric said in the tutorial, the side that has your bonus lit, right now it's the left side. Uh that side that has your bonus lit is the one that you're going to collect. Summer, she ends up first. We'll get it switched over here in a second. We're getting a couple of other things worked out.
    6:10
    That's who you're watching. And even the side that's not lit, it is worth ripping the spinner because once you get that ladder built all the way up and the spinner lights, it's now worth a,000 points per spin. So, that can add up really fast. Also, just something to note, Summer just dodged it, but there are holes, there are gaps in the rails on the left and right in lane. So, if you do one of those drop targets, it can go outside and actually drain at the end of that in lane rail. And we will switch the players in just a second. We're working out a uh another quick setting and then we'll get to it. Sorry. Oh, no problem at all. Yeah. Thank you. Always welcome the reminder to switch the players because it's something we can easily forget. Grand Prix, here we are. So, that was Summer. Summer's name isn't showing up. Sometimes when a player is newer or if they have special characters in their name, sometimes it doesn't show up, but that was Summer Sheen. Gotcha. Then we have Chris up next or Eric. It should be Eric up next. Eric is also our host and TD, so he often has other Yep. responsibilities for a little bit. This is a five game, so this one sometimes runs long. Mhm. And sometimes it doesn't cuz everybody just gets house ball after house, right? And I want to love this game here. Uh but this is one of those ones that's my enemy machine cuz it's taken me out on so many different tournaments this game has. It can be a real I don't I don't know what it is. Especially that like that right there. Like that feed. It's horrible. Yeah. I mean Eric has played this game. It's one of his favorites and even it happens to him too, right? Yep. Yep. BFR, thanks for the heads up. My name wasn't shown up on match play. That's weird. I'm hardly a new player. I don't know what it did a few on a few other people. I don't know if match play like updated and then something drawn, but there's a couple people nothing showed up. I I don't understand. We'll have to let match play know about that. Oh, watch. That was as close as that gets again. Almost got bit by the Grand Prix in lane.
    8:14
    Chris Dit you might have seen play last night. You'll see a lot of these players played last night in the pregame strikes tournament. And Chris Dwit Jr. also playing.
    8:31
    Junior is no stranger to the NKY Open. And uh maybe taking home another trophy today. We'll see. I do play like a new player. Yesterday I definitely played like a new player. Oh my gosh, it was awful. So, Junior. Yeah, Christopher Dit Jr. You might have seen last night on the stream, too. Elizabeth, what up? My booth bestie. Oh, why? Why? Why are we on this game? My trauma. Not not a fan of watching Grand Prix. I absolutely love this game. I understand that it has many haters. I And no, it's a it's a fine game. I don't like that um programmed uh flipper control is bad almost right. Yeah. Like right off the bat. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a big old fan of drop catches. So
    9:31
    for 5,000. Oh, what a nudge off the wall. Chris Love right back at you, Elizabeth. Remember how you destroyed this game at LAX? I did. You did? Did you? Oh, man. Now, I don't remember. But if I only knew this fact, maybe I would have walked in with more confidence. And confidence is half the battle. This game was being mean to you last night. There's no doubt about that. No, I did it to myself. I was not adjusting. I was missing. The hard part for me is I'm really used to the one at Arcade Legacy and this is a different it plays differently and so I have to shoot earlier on this machine. It can be the same game in a different location as in the same copy of a game in a different location and it's a different game. Yeah, this is such Pinball is such a mental game. When you talk about confidence, it's surprisingly mental this game. Do you have tricks that you use to kind of get yourself that that confidence you need? cuz I've seen you as a clutch player come in and really stand up. I don't know. I feel like it's just experience. Like you just got to keep playing more and then you got to you kind of work through the nerves. Like I don't feel nerves anymore. It's kind of cool. Yeah. But I kind of miss it. I kind of miss that like hype that rush. I get it every once in a while of like, oh man, I got to make this shot. But normally I don't really feel nervous anymore. I will say I definitely play better when I'm in that calm, cool, collected place, but I am not as quick to get into that space. I still get nerved up, especially for a big tournament. Mhm. I think though, as you said, once you've played enough of them Yeah. it all calms down, right? All right, we're back around to Chuck Wart. Starting out with uh 20,000. Go get him.
    11:13
    And again, you're looking, you're hoping to bounce into those A and B targets up top because that'll give you an instant double bonus. And bonus means a whole lot in this game.
    11:28
    Nobody loves a good spinner rip more than uh than Chuck. So than Eric. So you'll see him if he can trap up. You'll see him go for a couple of big ones. Oh, just missed it. Just a little south.
    11:46
    Oh, I'm going to assume that did not go well. I need a plunge better. Yeah. Stars. Oh, you're playing stars. Yeah, I got it. Stars were playing five ball just for that reason, right? Okay, good in lane. Yeah, stars can be hyped. You just need five to do it. Yep. He gets a little bit of a rip up the right side and gets his A and B targets down for double bonus. Nice. Does that uh stack the bonuses, the bonai? No, the it it gives you a series of different things. So, you get the double bonus and then you get some other thing. I don't even remember what the other three are. Okay. But the double bonus is the big one. I think it lights an extra ball. It lights a special, but we're not playing either of those. Yeah. Okay. Oh, a little flippy floppies. Little flippy flappies. Tries to get the ball back under control. He's not even nudging it. He's just letting it He's just letting the ball lie where it go. Whenever I see it at the top of the sling, I don't know about you, I start to get nervous when I see it going right here. Yeah. Especially if it's lading like it started down here and it's going up. Singing up. Yeah. Okay. Has both spinners all the way lit. So, we're getting a thousand spin. We want to see a big spinner rip here. I would never We're not seeing the trap that, you know, typically you'd want on this game so that you can get those spinner rips. But he can. Oh, beautiful drop catch. So good. I'm surprised he didn't dead bounce that. He's been dead bouncing everything. Yeah, if you can get it even on the fly, you can get a lot more out of a rip anyway. So, I suppose he's not moving the game at all because he really doesn't want to tilt this 100,000. Yeah, you'd hate to lose that bonus, right? He had So, he had both spinners lit and he picked up the bonus ladder from the right with a double bonus. That certainly pays off, right? Uhhuh. So, uh, special on this game, I think, is an extra ball, right? So, it doesn't do you a whole lot of good collect or does he have it for points? It I don't know. It just says ABS are disabled. But I always feel like it's a confidence boost if you're getting extra. Well, that's how you get confidence boost. So, even if you got a bunch of off,
    13:45
    my average extra ball is worth about 20% of my average ball. For whatever reason, as soon as I start playing that extra ball, Yeah. Yeah. it just falls apart. Big rip on the right from Chris Dit. Now, the spinners are tricky on this game. The flippers aren't perfectly aligned, right? So, they are slightly on different spots. They are, which is kind of common. I mean, that that's a common across the board, but it does make pinball a little bit interesting. Y and you're right, they're it's really slight, but it totally makes a difference. It's a little like the black one is a little steeper. I like that they're different colors cuz it reminds me I'm like, "Okay, black one is earlier." Oh, yeah. And and the orange one is late. Yeah. Yeah. Not worth points. Okay. So, he's basically EBS do nothing. Specials do nothing. Okay. Yeah. I asked him about the colors. I thought there was some brilliant strategy to maybe, you know, they represent different uh colors, different like resistance on the rubber or bounciness or elasticity. And he's like, "No, it's just the Bengals colors. I just did it for the Bengals." That's so difficult. Yeah. Okay. Play. All right. Okay, go get him. Elizabeth's going back to stars. I'm staying right here with you and Summer Sheen.
    14:57
    And hopefully we will have a bunch of different folks sitting in these chairs today uh helping commentate and uh and bring the experience to life of the Northern Kentucky Open. Elizabeth, one of my very favorites. Her game knowledge is incredible. Her passion, enthusiasm are incredible and of course her experience. But we have a ton of really good experienced commentators. We're really lucky around here. Summer's going to drain right, pick up a small amount of bonus and end that ball at 110. We are on ball three of five. You can see Eric right now is right with Chris score-wise at 268 to Chris's 284. So, this is not going to be the ball where he's going to create some distance.
    15:44
    This is why we play it like a fiveball game. The other thing I love about the NKY Open is that it is a t-shirt showcase because it's always really hot, right? It's always around the 4th of July. So, you get to see the coolest t-shirts from all of pinball and beyond.
    16:08
    How was that ball? It I did a really cool thing called an alley pass and it it didn't work out. Things went poorly. It did it did not do the thing I wanted it to do. But I I did successfully alley and then I just flipped it out and then things went horribly bad off the rail very quickly. I have seen you pass on stars by using the center post and I love it. I have not done I've seen you do it. I have a recording of it. No, you don't. I don't know if you meant to, but it did happen. Not me. back in back in Cincinnati. Big rip to the left. Left side, best side. Yep. Two Sheens in one game. Thomas and Summer. Oh, that just kind of found its outline, didn't it? I was like, we're going to play and then we're going to go find out. So, you guys will have to decide who's got the coolest t-shirt today. I have a couple of favorites already.
    17:13
    goes for that left side rip. Ends up a little a little too late, but picks it up on the kick out after the second try. And I thought got both A and B, but did not get B. It looks like
    17:31
    lit on the left for that spinner. So now you want to just spam that left spinner as much as you can. Unfortunately, we got a drain bow right down the center. Such a bummer. As soon as you get that as soon as you get that lip,
    17:52
    our host and tournament director, Eric, puts a ton of work into getting these games ready, into getting the house ready. He and Angie put a lot of work into this weekend. Oh, yeah. This is my favorite tournament. And in Cincinnati, it's really great, too. Yep. Yep. And I love his shirt. Big fan. The Fleetwood Max shirt. Yeah. I was just saying this weekend is always a t-shirt competition cuz everybody's hot, so we're all in t-shirts. So, whoever has the coolest t-shirt, dude. This is just part for the course. Yeah. I did I was going to wear my NKY shirt, but it says 2022, and that's so long ago. I think that speaks to your longevity at the Open. I think that's like I'm a longvity at the Open. I went with this cool Marco. Shout out to uh um I think uh never mind because I'm blanking on names at the moment. You know, Kim with Marco has played this tournament a number of times. Oh, really? Yep. And before my time. Yeah. I miss her. She was my first tournament. She became one of my buddies. Oh, a dangerous drop catch worked out. This is a dangerous machine to drop catch on, but if you're a good drop catcher, it can it can really make I'm an excellent drop catcher. So good, in fact, that I outlane myself. Easy to do on this one for sure. Has both spinners late. Good dead bounce here. And okay, late. You can see the dead flip is the key to this game. Late again. He's pulling a geese. There you go. All right, let's see this controlled shot. Kind of kind of flips that out early. Maybe he's wanting to skip, you know? Maybe he's like, I'm playing this game the way it was meant to be played. Oh, thank you guys for the reminder to update the name of the stream. Oh, is it still saying? It is not. It is not pregame strikes. If only. Well, good thing not maybe. I don't know. Name it. Um, Elizabeth Gizki is so cool. Tournament. Oh, let me see. Okay, we're on ball four. Player four. You do have a beer named after you. That was cool. Gizki Fis. I freaked out the first time I was playing Jaws and your name came up and I was like, that's so cool. Oh, heck yeah. Heck yeah. Yeah, they didn't even ask me what my favorite like beer was, but it is. Do you like that? Great. They just they just know me. What's it going to take to get somebody to actually make that? Micro brewers, we need you make the geese. We need more heisens in the world for one. Well, for sure. Laura told me that you guys were talking about like a logo yesterday that you could have a goose or a series of geese. Yeah, I want to sneak something into a game with geese and keys. Y
    20:26
    almost got her spinner maxed here. Oh, nice bounce in. Okay, it was a good uh it was a good shot because Oh, never mind. It was a bad shot because it drained off of it. I say there's no bad shot in pinball that doesn't drain you. That's right. I'm again. That was ball five. I got third. All right. Let's see Eric second get a chance to play. That would be nice. Very poor. He's at 330. We did very bad on stars. Did it go bad? We should all be very embarrassed of ourselves. Yeah. At my house, we always say, "I did it bad." Oh, good rip,
    21:01
    man. Look at that. So, one spinner, one strong spinner rip to bring it all the way up to to a lit per thousand. Yep. Which means, I mean, if you're going all the way up to that 50,000, that means that when you actually hit a full spinner rip with the thousand lit, you might pick up 50 plus thousand just on that rip. Well, you're right. If you have a little bit of that, that's how math works. So, so right here. I would know. Pretty great. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. I don't math. Okay, we might as well might as well get that left side cuz left side best side. I I did prefer shooting the left side. I I thought it I don't know why it felt easier. Oh, a little late. You see, it is 50%. Dude, it's 50%. You're right. On the fly, it's 50%. Yep. So, so that was a little bit slower, right? He could shoot it from 75. Yeah. No. So, we got there, but yeah, that Oh, okay. We're done now. BFR, you are exactly right. you do lose the spinner value because of that bonus reset. So you no longer have a full bonus ladder. You lose the spinner value. That's why generally the strategy is shoot collect which is I I do believe it would be a more interesting game if the spinners weren't that juiced. Yeah. Um for that riskreward. Always a fan of riskreward. Yep. I agree. We we have ours really juiced at Arcade Legacy as well. And sometimes it's just like, oh, I wish if you've got maybe me 10 15 spins, it would be okay. But we're getting 50 spins. Mhm. I'm sure it's hard to dial that cuz it's either you got to you got to do spinner or you got nada. You know, the problem is I love this game so much at Eric's house. I asked him what his spinner juice was and then I bought some and used it at Arcade Legacy. So now we have the same problem. Nice. Cuz the way he juiced his Jaws reel, I've never seen a better reel. Oh, it feels so good though, doesn't it? Feels so good. I should I should have stolen that. I rewrote rules on that game because I didn't like the reel. Is that right? Yeah. What did you rewrite? Pond attack. Oh, what did you change? The um it's not about how many points you get. It's just hit that thing and it counts. That's a shot, you know? It's like you just kind of have to hit it three times, but you don't have to like really get it going for any like point fresh. I really love the real mech, but it has to spin, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's but I mean there's not a lot of rules that require a lot of spins though. That's the thing. It's like Yeah. Except for um lighting bounty hunt, but even that is was um a lot uh smaller of a threshold than it started as. What's the mode? Uh the feeding frenzy bonus. Mhm. The is that built on this on the reel? No switches. It's it's just any switch. No. Um, feeding frenzy is a mode that is about the stand up targets, but you build up the value by hitting any switches. So, if you hit the spinner, then you know, that's just as good. Yep. Okay, so we got left side, best side, but let's go ahead and hit that. You know, we're just kind of bouncing around. Dead B. No, no, don't bounce. That would have been bad. That would have been bad. This is a great example, though, where he's he's got the spinner absolutely maxed, the bonus maxed on the left, and then nothing on the right. Right. Cuz he got one good rip on the left and nothing on the right. So, if he happened to have his bonus lit on the right and then drained, he gets 5,000. It is unfortunate that. Yeah. Isn't the reel a bit too tight from factory supposedly? Um, it loosens up as you play it. It like the the reel changes as as you as as as you kind of work it in as the machine gets some wear on it. Yeah. Yeah. We found the same with the uh the what do you call it? the demogorgan on Stranger Things that after you if if you get play him enough, he'll loosen up. You can actually make that shot. Interesting. Now, we ended up going in and manually loosening because we didn't want to wait, but but it will over time. Nice. All right, friends. That was ball five. Game over. That game is going to go to Chris Dit. Eric Forenberger is going to take second for five points. Uh then we've got Thomas Sheen edging out by that 50th. So that drain at the end that we saw from Thomas. He happened to get the left side drain worth 50 versus the right worth five. Yeah, that was the win for him. Was Where was that? I mean, and imagine if it was doubled, he would have gotten would have just been short. Maybe it it would have been like super close. Isn't that wild? I I can't really tell what Eric got. I mean, he literally beat it by less than a thousand if if you don't count that 50, right? Like it was really really close. He would have fallen short. Let's not tell him about that later. Yeah. All right, next round's up. Let's see who's playing what.
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    I don't know where we're going yet, dear. But as soon as he tells me we're going to King Kong, King. All right, Rick's going to King Kong. Well, I'll let someone else enjoy the booth with you. All right. Good talking. Good luck to you. You're welcome anytime. Thank you. Let me run the mintorial for King Kong. Here's how to play King Kong.
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    Are you ready to battle the eighth wonder of the world, King Kong? Let's learn some pinball, baby. Multiple skill shot opportunities. You can plunge into the magnet targets here or go to one of the three left outlines over here. They're qualifying start modes on the pro. You want to go around and hit any of the blue arrows around the playfield. Once you've hit a couple of those, the gong will like to start climb arrows. You will see these yellow arrows around the playfield. If you were able to complete a full set of those, you will light up one of the climb items on the playfield. As you complete those, you will get different awards. For the first three, for example, you will get points. Island lock and NYC event. Island locks light right here on the right orbit. Once you hit those, it'll dump the ball in there. That will allow you to play any of the gong modes as a two ball multiball. Once you get that third climb award, you will light the NYC event. It's a valuable mode. Hit there here at the right orbit. Follow the prompts on the screen to know what to do in that one. Drop target award. You got four drop targets right here. Once you complete them once, you will light Kong combos. That's a mode where if you hit any shot in the game around the playfield, it will light other arrows yellow. Hit the drops down again, you will light locks at the center ramp. Multiballs. Once you have the center ramp lit, you hit this center ramp shot three times and it will light multiball in the right orbit. Once you hit it back here, it'll dump it into the hole and start multiball. Pit multiballs. Just bash these targets enough to start a multiball. And once you're in the multiball, follow the prompts on the screen to know what to do. Biplane attack. Anytime you hit this side ramp, you will work towards biplane attack. Once you've hit the side ramp ramp enough, biplane attack will start. Time you hit the side ramp, you'll destroy a biplane. King Kong letters. There are many ways to get Kong letters, including just hitting switches and then collecting the Kong letter at the gong. But various other items in the game will give you Kong letters. The first G, you will light dead eyee mode at the cave here. That's a plunging mode that's pretty valuable. If once you get to the second G, that will light the T-Rex battle at the gong. Please follow the prompts on the screen. Future 2X playfield scoring modes are harder to start. Finally, 2x scoring. There are 2x targets around the playfield. Once you've hit all of those, one will begin to roam across all the targets. Once you hit the roaming one, you'll start 2x play. That's King Kong. There you go. Wow, that was a lot. He got a lot done in two minutes in that. I learned a lot. You did? Yeah. I mean, I don't know this. I I I know a lot about this game, but nothing about this game. You know what I mean? Like, I know that what the team was like when they were making it and such. And you had a code name for this game that we were all trying to frantically guess way back in the last NKY Open. Oh, and I don't remember what it was. Um, this is Rodeo. Yeah. Never would have guessed that. This one was Rodeo. Never would have guessed King Kong. Yeah. No, it's because of um Greg Ferrer, I think. Oh, it says last rodeo type of thing. I think that was why. Oh, that's great. So, it didn't really have anything to do with the name, more like the people working on it. So, I spent a year racking my brain trying to make a connection between rodeo and pinball and it turns out completely unrelated. No. Yeah, I don't think I can't name one game that has a sensical code name. I guess that's the point. That's for the best. Yeah, that's the whole point. Uh I love the dead eyee mode on this game. It's really cute. You know, Keith wanted to do that on Iron Maiden. Oh, really? Yeah. But I he didn't for whatever reason. I'm I'm glad he did it on this one. I Some people complained about it. I was like, it's brilliant. I think it's super fun. I mean, it does slow down down the game, I suppose, but I I it's such a special thing. There's nothing else like it. Um and it was like, you know, seven games in the working like he he waited on it. Can you imagine? Finally got it in. It must be like that that you have an idea and this this isn't the game. This isn't the game. And then finally you get that moment, right? Are you holding on to one yourself? Do you have an idea? No. I I throw everything I can. I'm like, I just hope they keep coming. We We had one last year. You and I were sitting here. We came up with something and I have no idea what it is. And we both were like, "That would be awesome." And then completely forgot. We should roll the tape. Okay. I'm going to go to Rocky Bullwinkle. All right. Good luck to you. So, we're going to watch Sarah start us off here on King Kong Myth of Terror Island, the latest from Stern Pinball. It was done in Congo, but not as a mode. Right. Is it a mode in Congo? Maybe I just never made it to that mode. Cool. 11 million start. We're getting those modes qualified with the arrows. The island scene is now lit on the right. So that's your mode start. We also have a drop target completion. That's one of two. Oh, skillfire. Okay. I don't I If you just keep advancing map, you can get to that mode. That's cool. Maybe I just never got that far. I don't focus on map much when I play Congo. Maybe I should. So Sarah did light the uh the island scene and was able to get one of the drop target completions. As the minatorial said, you need two drop target completions and a right orbit to start that multiball. But ideally, you're bringing a mode into it anyway. Much like Iron Maiden, your qualifying modes or Foo Fighters, your qualifying modes by shooting any of the white or blue targets in this case around the playfield. No luck for Christowit. I will say this game, the tilt is insanely tight. It is as tight as I have ever played. And uh so you really can't mess with it much. Eric's plan was to have short ball times on this one. And sure enough, that's what we're getting. So yeah, thank you. Complete those two drop targets, shoot the center three times to lock, and then start it on the right orbit. On the premium model that I played last week, you don't have to shoot the right orbit to start. You can just do the drop targets and then the center shots. But on this one, different story. It looks like may have stuck the ball on the ramp there, which happens
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    on the little bridge there. Using that bridge. Excellent use of that bridge.
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    We had two Sheenans in round one. We have two Whamsley's in round two. Sydney and Chris.
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    Yeah, on the premium. That's it. You don't need that red orbit. You can skip it.
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    Picking up a gong award. And uh this this mode where you're trying to cross the chasm, you just keep you if you do it right, you can just sort of keep looping there and it's big points. Chris Dit Jr., what's up? Yeah, what's up? How you feeling? Uh pretty all right after round one. Uh I took second on Diamond Lady. Okay. Um and I'm playing Jungle Queen right now. Jungle Queen is Do you know if Jungle Queen's a five ball or three ball? I assume it's five because I think he always sets his ends to five, but not 100%. I didn't actually didn't play it yesterday. Not even worse. Really? Isn't that weird? No, me neither. We'll find out the hard way, I guess. Yeah, but he'll tell you, I think, on the uh on the sheet if it's going to be three.
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    So, we have our island scene lit on the right to start the mode. Chris picks it up. We got two Chrises in this group. We got two Chris's, two, but not two Chris Whamsley's. No. If only. Let's pick a scene. How about Savan? Do you have a favorite mode in this game yet? Have you had enough time on it? I haven't had enough. I I do cross the chasm because it's easy. Yeah, me too. Um but it's honestly not worth that many points. No, I mean the modes in general are worth playing, but yeah, that one may not be the most lucrative. Yeah, I think this one's probably the best. Um only on the pro though. On the premium, it's hard cuz you have to actually hit the gong. Yeah. And that gong will kick right back at you. So on the premium, this gong target over here is not a plastic sign. It's an actual gong that's kind of in your way and it will kick back on you pretty hard.
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    Chris is putting together some great combos here. Yeah. And opens the gate for 7.4 mil. Nice. Really, really great. It seems like he's played this game before. Yeah. Um, so he's going to qualify his next mode by hitting the blue arrows and then look at that. Straight to the island scene. Talk about your combo. Yeah, you go through the gong on the second hit to start a mode as well. It's kind of nice. The first time it kicks back, the second time it doesn't. And that can be really confusing.
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    I feel like he's played this game before. He seems to know it pretty well and he's got his shots down. just he was just comboing out like crazy. Picks up another mode award. It doesn't look like he's too focused right now on like let's say the pit as he's he's playing through the modes, but he does manage to complete the drop targets in the process.
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    I don't know if he got did he get both drop target completions? I was too busy watching him destroy the modes. All right. Yeah, the accuracy was nuts. This is a very flowy game. Um, I feel like the pro might be a little too easy if I'm being honest. Really? Um, like, so what Eric was saying yesterday is the reason why he has the tilt so tight is cuz he played a game he played a game where like he almost beat the game and like he didn't nudge at all. Oh, okay. So, he's setting the bar pretty high then. Yeah. Yeah. Um, which I mean there's only like the only dangerous things on the pro is the little pit the pit target and the drop targets, but I mean the drop turns aren't even that dangerous and the pit you don't really need a well you need it to progress through the game, but um I mean you sort of just get it over time. Yeah, the pit I end up just hitting. You're right. It does have a magnet on it that can make things kind of swirly. Um, and then you're right, the drop targets aren't super dangerous. Generally, if it rolls off here, which is how it tends to end the drop target mode, it's not bad. You end up on the left flipper anyway. Yeah. Um, I love to do the um I love to do the sweep combo all the time cuz I think it ramps up 5 million every time. That sweep combo is you you hit the sweep around the left orbit and and then what's the what's the finishing shot? The biplane. Uh, yeah, the bipane. Biplane shot. All right, Junior. Good luck.
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    Dodie Bird, welcome. First time chat. Feel free to share your thoughts as we go today. We've got a lot of pinball to play. 10 rounds. You're in the middle of round two right now, watching Chris Dit, our player two.
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    It looks like he might be shooting for those drop target completions. Yeah, there's the sweep. Didn't quite get all of them. I think he's still got one or two up there. So, he's going to try again. The real trick is can can you get your hand onto this button right here to set up this little bridge in order to get an easier because you can actually with the bridge on you can actually trap up there and then shoot the drops that you want to hit. But uh easier said than done because you have to take your hand off the flipper to put up the bridge. Instant reject but she's going to get that one back.
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    Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. That you're uh you're getting flooded out. Oh, wow. Down in Texas. I didn't realize Texas was having flooding right now. What part of Texas? Um,
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    I want to know when you're coming up for a tournament, man. Other than Cincinnati, it is a kind of a long drive. I'll give you that. It's kind of a long drive. Central Texas. Okay. Well, I was sorry to hear about the flooding.
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    Pinependence. That's clever. Independence Day. Independence Day was yesterday. Yeah, we had an awesome tournament last night. It was a strikes tournament. Classics. Uh I had a ton of fun. Did not play well, but I had a ton of fun. I just always like that one. It's more laid-back, right? It's a good warm-up for this tournament. Yeah, I love the classics. Me, too. I I like the classics more than um more than like the modern streams. Yep. Um I do too. Even though I love I love well basically everything, but classics are my my jam. Like my my two favorite eras are the Williams EM era and um Oh, nice. Uh the the like switch from Sega to Stern were like Sega made the games but then Stern put their brand on it. Um I love those games. So like Hot Tip and Grand Prix are right up your alley. Williams Em. I do. I do really like Little Chief too. Little Chief. Yeah. I don't know if I've played a Little Chief. I played it at uh Rochester Pinball Collective for the first time and it played really nice. Was that when you were up there for nationals? Yep. Yeah. Nice. If I remember right, that week had some weather, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was snowing. Snow. Yeah. That's a quick up and down for Sarah. I do like cocktail pinball that rotates. The one the one cocktail pinball table that rotates I love very much. As long as you don't mind fixing your rotation 8 every couple of days. They're really fun to own. All right, Chris Dit is going to start his mode. Let's see what he picks.
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    And I don't know where he's at in terms of multiball progress. If he's still trying to get Oh, spider was ready. So, see how the red light was lit? Yeah. So, he was Oh, he's trying to go for the pit. Yeah. So, if this light isn't lit, it's multiballs ready. All right. I know he was going earlier for his drops, but I don't know if he completed it. And then each one actually on this too is a different multiball. So, depending on which one you start with and hit, that's what multiball you get. Is there a significant scoring difference between the multiballs? Like, have you noticed that people are hoping to get one versus another one? Not that I have seen. Uh I haven't played it enough yet though to uh say otherwise. So yeah, I usually just take you know whatever. Yeah. So right now um it's got the train. Yeah. So see that light was lit right there. So train was ready. Multiball. So two more and then hit it again to start it. So this one you also have to hit the right orbit to start the multiball. Yes. Sorry. Right. Yeah. Right one. Oh wow. Great save. One of the pits requires hits on the standups. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess depending on what you're good at shooting. So yeah, right now Yeah, the right side's lit. Ready to go. Let's see it. Let's see that shot. So island scene. Great. Yep. Great. So Sydney's going to start a scene and then probably go for that right orbit for multiball, I would guess. Puff. Danny, tell me more about this. There's another rotating pin. I only know about rotation 8. What's the other one? Spectra 4, but it's manual rotation. Okay. Tell me more about Spectra 4. Was that also made by Let's see. Midway is who made rotation eight. Was that also a Midway game? My rotation 8 is the gem of my collection. It's also a massive pain in the butt and breaks constantly. You have a Spectra 4k. I want to know everything. Oh, she did it again. She caught it in the bridge. Yep. I've got I've done that a few times, too. That's such a bummer. You have to be so fast on that button. Yeah. Oh, that's There we go. There's that multiball. Yep. She knows she got it. That feels good. So now she gets a little bit of ball save time, but not much, right? Eric has it turn way down, but she gets the benefit of three balls versus one to work on this mode while also looking to sweep those drops and light jackpots. Yeah, I didn't see what mode did she pick. Did was it Savan or was it uh I don't know.
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    I did not I was paying attention. Maybe Brunswick. Okay, cool. You guys have six spectras in KC. No kidding. And when you say manual rotation, how do you do it? Uh, how do is there like a wheel that you turn? How does it work? There we go. You might So, is that the end of multiball? We got anything back? Do we get No, don't look like it. That's probably it. As we said, Eric has a very short ball save on this one. So, so not a lot of How about that bounce? Oh, man. How about He doesn't he have a rubber on that post? No, he does not. So, that was a really lucky. Yeah, cuz that didn't go very high. Stegosaurus encounters. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, get that river. Get that river. There you go. Boom. Hit it again. Get it up there. Nice. Boom.
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    There's 13 working spectras left. That's about how many rotation eights I found. So, yeah. Uh, pit multiball is ready.
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    So, now would be a good time. Stegosaurus encounter over. So, we could go for an island shot first and then then start that pit. No, it looks like she just wants it.
    43:37
    There we go. Neil McCrae, what's up? Thanks for joining us today. You're watching the Northern Kentucky Open 2025 right here in well, Northern Kentucky, right on the Cincinnati border.
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    I can't believe you have a bunch of Spectras and KC. That's awesome. What was it? How many of those left? 13. 13 still working. Does he have all 13 of them in his house? Is that why if you don't like this one, you can play the next one. Yeah. Yeah. I want to get another rotation 8 just so I can have parts for my existing rotation 8. That's what I hear a lot of people do. They just they buy two when it's that old. Yeah. Parts machine.
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    There we go. I need to go look at a video of this spectra. That sounds cool. She does have four letters left for King Kong. If you get them all, you end up battling the T-Rex. I mean, my god, she's doing awesome. Yeah, it's it's a lot to get those letters, too. Yeah, for sure. And it's some combination of of hitting stuff on the playfield, right? Yeah. It's not like one shot you keep hitting. It's not just switch it. So, this one she's in uh needs to hit those drop targets. Keeps climbing. So, next couple of climbs will get her lit for an NYC event, which can be really nice. Yep. You just grip it and spin to the next player. That's awesome. Grip it and spin to the next player. So, she's going to end at 90 million. Now, scrape off. If you have played on an easy machine with a lot of tilt, that may not sound like a lot. That was a lot for this machine. machine. I saw somebody put their initials up yesterday for 60. Oh, wow. Yep. Nice ball. That was awesome. Yeah, that was a great ball. You have to go back and watch it. You were killing it. All right, so we've seen a lot of mode focus from Chris here. I mean, modes are very battle uh very valuable. For sure. For sure. Depends on the mode. So, some people like playing uh I think it's cross the cat catechism. I think it's cross the chasm. Yeah. Yeah. where cuz you just go up and around back and then up. Yep. And then Yeah. If you're good at that loop, you can just keep going. Just loop it. Yeah. All day. That's the one I go to first. Unless I'm going into multiball and then I'll pick something. Then I'll pick something else. Yeah. Stegosaurus or Yeah. And it's so easy to get to. It's not like to even get to that flip. It's like, oh, this is a hard shot. What do I do? CJ, I'm glad you like it. I don't know if you're referring to the stream or King Kong or both, but uh we're glad to bring it to you. Oh, gets a drop target completion. He is lit for a multiball lock. There's one up the center. Ah, picks it up. Let's see another one. Really hard to get off the back hand. Oh, better off ski passing that to the right and picking it up over there. Somebody is reproducing Spectra four boards. That's so wild to me that people put that kind of time and investment into a game nobody has. But again, buying them like I would buy it. I mean, if for my rotation 8, if I needed parts and somebody started making them, that'd be incredible. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, I know. You were telling me about when you had to fix uh KISS, the little ramp thing there. Like, no one makes them. Nope. It's like, what? I had to take it. Form some plastic and reinforce it with mesh and it was a whole thing. I found you out. I need to go back. Hey, thanks for joining. And get an electrical engineering degree if I want to keep fixing pinball machines cuz sometimes you just have to make your own stuff. Yep. found you all from KSR. Well, I'm so glad you're here. Thank you. And please give us a follow. We um we don't stream a ton. Uh but we do like tutorials and you'll have sort of like midweek you might get like, "Hey, there's a brand new game in the basement." So Eric's going to do a tutorial. And of course, we stream Cincinnati and the NKY Open every year. Yep. Cincinnati is the first weekend in December. Did you make it in the tournament? No, I uh kind of slept through that one. I got like two I'm like seventh in a weight list. Oh, you'll probably be all right. Last year we went through 100 people on the wait list. So, and I got every year I've gotten in through that weight list. So, that's why I'm not too worried about it. Yep. You can also follow Eric's uh mintorials that we make. Eric and I make these little two-minute tutorials on games. You can follow those on YouTube at Chuck Wart. Mhm. That's uh c u k w. And we just added a few. We just added one for Bone Busters. We added one for King Kong and Rocky and Bullwinkle. We added those this week. Those have helped me out. I actually looked at one at past times like how do you play? I was like oh wait I know he has got one. Let me look that up real quick and I watched it. I'm glad they've helped and match play has been awesome. They started embedding them in match play. So if you click on the game Yeah. there's a link to the minatorials. Really? Yeah. Which is really nice. I didn't know that. That's awesome. Yeah. So if you're sitting there at a tournament, you're like, "How do I play this?" You can get pin tips and then you can get the the minatorial. Okay. Uh Dirty Harry and The Walking Dead are both taking longer than King Kong. Who who would have thought we'd see the day? Yeah, this is one of the reasons he set the tilt so tight. I think he may have overdone it a little bit, but uh I mean it prevents you from getting the save down this center lane here. I've seen like on Jesse's I can get a good nudge and get it back in. So that that's kind of the only uh thing on that one. And he did take the rubber off the center post too which gives that you can get a lot bouncing off that center post. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's take a look at our matchups and standings then while we're waiting for our next game.
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    Dirty Harry and Walking Dead still playing. Uh I see a couple of names on those that suggest to me why they might still be playing. Carlos and Walking Dead's probably blowing it up right now. And Trent as well. And Trent. Yeah, I didn't see Trent on there. Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. Uh but you can see our finals cut off is at 16 now. Right now it's only round two of 10. So there is not much to be said about who's making the finals. And then we also got what? Top 16 for B or for the bottom 16 for B as well. Right. Yeah. A division, top 16, B is bottom. And then there's always an unsanctioned third tournament. That's what I heard about that. What what is this about this unsanctioned tournament? This tournament I cannot name on family television. Uh is just ridiculous fun. Okay. That is I I mean they they're betting against their own play. There's maybe little pools of dollars that go in. The whole thing is very silly. I I've never known that. And they make their own prizes that are always obscene and it's it's very fun. That's cool. That's cool. It's very fun. So, if you all ever want to come to the open, it is an open, right? You don't have to qualify into it. You just sign up for it. And even if you don't end up in the A or B, you can end up in the unsanctioned tournament, win a couple bucks, maybe. You know, that's still cool that you're not just kind of sitting around waiting, you know, just to hang out. I mean, it's cool to hang out, don't get me wrong, but um it's kind of cool. Hey, didn't make it. come play this. Yep, that's right. All right, next round is up. All right, sounds like next round is up and the rig is going to Rocky and Bullwinkle. So, let's take a look at that minatorial. Learn how to play some Rocky and Bullwinkle. Where is it? Did I pick the wrong one? Pick the wrong one. Yeah, there you go. Rocky and Bullwinkle.
    50:41
    Now, here's something we hope you'll really like. Let's learn some Rocky and Bullwinkle pinball. Okay, to start off, when you plunge, you're going to go to the top three lanes. If you go through the lit lane, you'll get one of three skill shots, typically points, mystery select or super pops. Mystery select. If lit, it will be lit right here. And you can collect it by hitting this hole. To light mystery select, you want to hit orbit. You can either hit the right orbit or the left orbit. That will light up these select lights. And then you can hit the mystery select or you can keep hitting orbits to light super mystery select. One of the awards for super mystery select is double score. That typically won't be awarded unless your score is under 100 million points. So use that strategically. Puzzles. If you hit the scoop here or the unlit scoop right here, you'll reveal puzzle pieces. Those will start modes from hitting the launch button. Once they start, they're pretty valuable, so don't ignore them. Hat trick. There's three targets right here. If you hit these three, it'll light hat trick on the left orbit. Hit it back there, and it'll start one of three modes. You can hit the rhino orbit. You can hit the ramp for the other mode. And extra ball can also be awarded there. Left ramp modes, you start these by hitting up the left ramp. To relight those modes, you hit the either hole. If you get through all those modes, there's the wayback machine mode, which is just continually hitting the left ramp. Multiball to light multiball. You have to fill up this guy right here. To do that, you can either alternate comboing the ramps for the first multiball. After that, you can't do that, or you can hit the bomb targets. Hitting any of these will light up the corresponding colors on the wheel. Fill up the whole wheel to start multiball via the right ramp. Once you're in multiball, the jackpot will be lit at the right ramp. To relight future jackpots, you hit the hattick right here. If jackpot is already lit and you hit the hattick again, double jackpot will be lit at the right ramp. If you can fill out the wheel again during multiball, that will light Super Jackpot at the right ramp for 100 million points. You do that from hitting all bomb targets three times. Add a balls. You have unlimited add balls in multiball by hitting the three hattick targets. Save now or the drop targets over here to the right. Hit all those down to start save and then hit one of the drop targets down or more in future nail modes to get increasingly high points. Kickback. You start with the kickback lid here to relight. Continue to loop right orbits. That's Rocky and Bullwinkle. That's Rocky and Bullwinkle indeed. And I'll bring up our players so we can see who's about to play.
    53:09
    For some reason, it doesn't want to come up. So, let me do this manually. We'll bring it up that way. There it is. We have Mystery Ghost, Gary O'Brien, Jeremy Ryan, and other Mystery Ghost. That's fun.
    53:26
    I will find out for y'all. You can always click as well on the uh link that's pinned at the top and you can see who's playing what in case we have a situation like that where we can't see everybody. So Rocky and Boinkle is going to be Scott Jendi. Oh, Scott's here. Nice. I didn't see him. Gary O'Brien, Jeremy, Ryan, and Aaron nothing. Scott and Aaron playing together is always fun because they also are going to drive home together and go home together because they're married to each other. So again, uh my apologies. There's uh sometimes a match play glitch where we don't get the names up on the screen, but uh that's who is playing right now. You're watching Jeremy Ryan, our player three. We had I'm guessing that people started playing before the minatorial was over. Yeah, who knew who knew Rocky and [ __ ] had such a deep rule set? You are going to see most people going for that multiball and they're going to go there either by comboing ramps, which is the first time you do multiball, or by collecting all the spot targets, the multiple colors, which is how you do it after that. Or you can do that first if you don't want to combo.
    54:36
    Again, it's always fun when uh partners play each other. So Aaron versus Scott is sure to be a rivalry.
    54:44
    Scott is also one of the founding members of the arcade legacy based pinball gang, the Naturalborn Rippers. I think he had sort of a Sharks and Jets thing in mind and so he's waiting for other gangs to emerge and challenge them in some sort of musical fight.
    55:03
    Completely agree with you, Slowb Bro. This game is underrated. It's super fun. The rule sets deeper than you think it is. Here's the real shock for me is those hat-tick targets using the ones that we just saw hit. Those hat-tick targets during multiball can get you unlimited out of ball. What's the other games you can think of that have unlimited out of ball? Pretty cool.
    55:39
    So, nobody with a runaway just yet. I feel like everybody's kind of working toward their multiball completion. We haven't seen much in the way of modes. He does have his mystery lit up the center and that mystery can be really helpful. Yeah, almost gets the center shot off a ricochet there. Gets it with that shot.
    56:03
    Oh, the feed is nasty. Yeah, depending how it's set up. It can be pretty gross.
    56:11
    So, he manages to get his bonus held, which turns out to have been the right decision in so much as he wouldn't have gotten to play loose moose much.
    56:25
    Gary is being he's being prescriptive. Here's what I want from you. I think I don't know exactly what he's talking about, but he was very serious about it. Gets his super pops. Very nice. That's nothing to sneeze at.
    56:41
    Little bit of sling hockey. Tries to get control. He's going to get it on the right flipper. Goes for a ramp shot. Does not complete the feedback off that ramp. As you can see, can be quite dangerous. But he did get a bounce back into the right in lane. There's that feed shot. Now, let's see a combo. Oh, he starts multiball. My bad. I didn't realize he had already qualified it. Nice. How about a super jacked
    57:18
    Of course. I was like, it's halfway down and it's Yeah, you got it down. Perfect. Wait. Oh, that's so fun. But you didn't do it. Elizabeth was just stopped by to tell me she's about to roll Grand Prix on She's just finished ball one and almost rolled it because that's how that's how luck works. Luck. No, it's not skill. Or skill. Last night, Elizabeth was playing Grand Prix for the finals in our in our classics tournament. And uh Chad Hobbs ended up taking that game. It was a one-on-one showdown between the two of them. Yeah, we're seeing a good ball here from Gary.
    58:03
    And our rocket squirrel scoring mode. Yeah, there you go. Picking up a puzzle piece. Maybe going to save nail here in a little bit. See this kick out from the scoop. That's what we were talking about. This going to be a mean kick out. Oh, yeah. Mean feed. I I learned that the hard way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't get around. One more puzzle piece ought to do it. Oh, speed drain off of that spot target on the left. Uh my game over here is a little delayed. What's that? Uh this Oh, the one on the right. Yeah, that that might actually be Hold on. That is actually the YouTube version. That's why. So, let me go back to the good version. Oh, yeah. Which is this one. All right. I didn't want to mess anything up. No, thank you for letting me know. We were We were watching our own YouTube over there. That's confusing. Yeah. Um,
    59:03
    he's in his multiball. Um, he's got to hit the hat trick on the left orbit. Or does he decide to build up his jackpot value? Hat trick is blinking. Mhm. And that's what lights your jackpots on the uh the right ramp. Is that going to is that on a timer or is it just going to keep blinking? It's just going to keep blinking. You just go back and forth between the left orbit and right ramp on this ball. And then um comboing your ramps to fill up your colors on the wheel um increases your jackpot values. Oh, nice. Instead of collecting with the spot target to start the jack or start the multiball center drain off a tough left orbit feed. Let me go see if that's going to wrap it up for Jeremy
    59:49
    and Aaron Nutley back up. chooses super pop. Seems like the popular choice. Does not get it on the skill shot.
    60:00
    What a fun era of game this was. This is only ball two. So, we got another ball coming.
    60:07
    Looks like still Is there still a couple? Are we fully lit on the wheel or do we still have a couple to go?
    60:22
    Quick, put out the fuse. The animations are just fabulous on this game. It looks like save nail mode. Um, we may have a stuck something.
    60:39
    That was confusing, friends. Now, she could have flagged for a TD. We have three TDs working today. Eric, of course, Stu and Chad. But was it just stuck in the shooter lane? Is that what it was?
    61:00
    So, yeah. So, typically you would not flag another player to come help. You would flag a TD or not another player in your game anyway. Um, but it sounds like they were able to work that out and get it get it shot. Ah, airball to the shooter lane. Gotcha.
    61:23
    Big multiball points, but Oh no, that's the worst when they all drain at the same time. Oh, that's You know what we do when we do that? We We put a lost them all.
    61:41
    Super from ND. Is that North Dakota? Is it a little bit of a pinball desert around you? Oh, the ball locks can't eject. Yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem. It's a ball lock and never unlock. Yeah, especially on pirates, too, cuz that's um that's a big thing on like none of them can eject. That's a fuse problem, I bet you. I bet you blew a solenoid fuse somewhere.
    62:08
    You have the unintended side effect of hard multiples where ball draining counts as entire ball lost. Yeah, that's no good. Oh no, that bounce. We've been seeing that bounce causing trouble this entire game. Yeah, it is. It is leaning to the right a little bit. Um it is very hard to to shimmy it out of that fight. It is. I mean, we're getting I don't know that these are in line. They look like they are from here, but most of the time this would actually be lower, which may be causing that consistent drain. Yeah, it looks like it's a little bit lower. Yeah. Um,
    62:50
    I've never been to North Dakota. I don't know how much pinball is going on up in North Dakota.
    62:59
    So, those drop targets can be pretty valuable here. 2 million a pop. Oh, he's got double scoring. How about double scoring to an immediate right side drain? So that isn't that always the way. Is there any better way to drain than get double scoring? Well, it's not it's it doubles your score. Oh, it doubles your score, not double scoring. Okay. Did Did he Did he get it? Did he qualify? Wow. Yeah, it uh just by hitting the ramp you get it. Well, that's great. It doubles your score. That's a thing. Yeah, man. I didn't know about that rule. So, he went from 65 to 130 mil. Must be nice. Yeah.
    63:39
    misses on the skill shot there. 130 mil just like that. I mean, the 65 may be enough to win it anyway, so it may not matter, but amazing. I mean, you only have to hit the ramps 20 times in a row. Is that the trick? Just combo it out. Yeah. Wow. Well, Gary had some choice words for this machine at the beginning, and I think the machine listened and said, "Look, I'll get in line. Look, I'll give you this game. All right, you can have this one. All right, this is uh Aaron's chance to catch up on all three. Could pick up a cool 7 million. Nope. Goes for super pops. Okay, these pop bumpers are a lot juicier than they were. Yeah. Um
    64:24
    bonus held means we're going to award bonus twice at the end of the ball.
    64:30
    When you're on your final ball, that's usually just an easy 2x bonus.
    64:37
    No. Right into the kickback. Kick back up the ramp. Back into the mystery scoop. Removes a piece of the puzzle. One left to go. Once all the puzzle pieces are gone, we can start a mode. Let's see. There's some There's some rampant points. Oh, she already played her multiball. Cuz I think she has to do her whole color wheel again. It's got to start Oh, yeah. That's right. She did. Yeah. Just got to start over. And this time you can't do it on the ramps. This time you have to collect it down at the bottom. I No, you you can uh you can still combo the ramps and get them. Oh, really? Eric said after the first one. Maybe it's just harder. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. There's a jackpot. Let's see.
    65:25
    Yeah, the skill shot thing's a little funky when you can't actually control the the speed of the eject. All right, where does she come out? Bonus is held. It's going to be doubled. So, she ends up with a 1.3 for a total of 82. Really nice ball. Yeah. Puts Aaron Nutley in second place behind Gary O'Brien, I think. Who got it after that? Was it Jeremy or was it Scott? Um, it was Jeremy by a nose. Yeah, just barely by about 2 million points.
    66:01
    Well, all right, man. Let's see what else is going on with our matches. Eric may decide to move us somewhere else. We'll see. Or no, no, you're right. So, the second time around it is you do have to you do have to actually hit the targets. You got to hit the spots at the bottom. Yep. Well, we still have plenty to look at. So, let's see if Eric will move us to another game.
    66:30
    I kind of want to see some Pulp Fiction. You want to see some Pulp Fiction? Yeah. All right, man. Let me go see if I can move us over. Hang tight. All right.
    66:49
    Yeah, I I personally do not like Pulp Fiction. I don't like that game. Um but I think it's it's a cool game. I just don't like it. I feel like that and Looney Tunes are some of my least favorite moderns right now.
    67:11
    I actually think uh I think Avatar is better than both of them honestly.
    67:24
    well, not better. I mean like personally personally I like um Pulp Fiction is on the modern. I mean it came out
    67:40
    I mean technically I mean it doesn't play like a modern but technically it is a modern. Um I don't know. I don't know what it is about it. I just don't like it that much.
    67:55
    I don't know. Maybe it's the theme. The theme doesn't really do anything for me. Um, yeah, I like I like the rules in the in the shots. It's just something about it that I don't like. I don't even know. Um,
    68:15
    I'm not I'm not even really liking uh Kong all that much right now. Um, but maybe when maybe whenever the code uh gets better, maybe I'll like it more cuz I feel like it's flowy. Yeah. But most of the time you're making the same exact combos.
    68:45
    So, we got Pope Fiction Grand Prix and Jackpot. It sounds like we're going to Pope Fiction because I can I can hear it. I can hear somebody playing the multiball.
    69:08
    I'll take the fiction, but please help the Pope. Hey, I will say this. Samuel L. Jackson did a a really nice I've never seen the movie, but from what I've like from the tidbits I've seen of it, he did a he did pretty awesome job.
    69:35
    So, uh, how's everybody doing? Uh, right after 4th of July. I'm sure at least one person in here is probably still wasted from last night. I know. That must be fun.
    69:55
    Well, as much as I just like having the all games cam aimed at my stomach while we wait, I am going to go to this cam so we can at least watch what Eric's doing. All right. He uh this is his game. Yeah, he's doing well. 2.3 in climbing. He had just started his his multiball. His uh what's the one that plays Jungle Bookie? The briefcase. Um yeah, briefcase. Briefcase. Multiball. Is it Doom? Yeah, it is briefcase. It is briefcase.
    70:27
    this game. I know I I talk about it a lot like every time it comes on, but I think it is just absolutely brilliant and it makes me so excited to see other manufacturers getting into new titles done so well and uh it's, you know, it's made in the style of a classic game like an 80s solid state and it it does so much with that format. Yeah. All right, we're going to move in there. Eric is going to end at uh 2.7ish
    70:58
    and we will get lined up and figured out here. Let me go to my all games cam. You want to you want to know a hot take I have about this game? Yeah. I don't I don't think the layout's that good. You don't like the layout? No. That is a hot take. What is it about it? It's It's I don't know. Like every shot just feels the same. Every shot feels the exact same on this game. Um, I feel like they're all the same width. They're all the same like angle. Okay. Okay. I would say that's uh not my experience, but I also was already in love with the game the second it came out because it uses that that classic solid state layout. So, I will admit I'm a little bit biased in that I really I've wanted somebody to do this. Not even the theme, just the the type of game I've wanted to see for a while. I feel like that's what um I feel that's what Keith Ellen's been trying to do, been trying to bring back in his past couple titles. Um cuz Jaws has that the spinner which goes all the way down the whole playfield. Um that's taken from the older god. Yeah. Yeah. That's taken straight from the old goalie era. Um where spinners would do that. Yep. Um it does that in Carhawk. Um, and then he's doing the um he he literally took the um the plunge the plunge mode from Congo. He literally put that in King Kong. Yeah, that turned out pretty awesome. We were just talking about that earlier. I didn't realize that was in Congo. Um what else? There's something else of Kong that was taken from the classics. Uh well the the kicker target but like that was on two fighters too. Yeah. Yeah. That kicker target on the premium is really fun. Yeah. I think it's an awesome idea and it it it introduces some uncertainty because unless you're tracking where you are in your head or you're paying really close attention. You might get a kickback. You might not. It might pass right through. Right. If you're lit pass right through. Yep.
    73:07
    Somebody said the flippers. Oh yeah. the the left out does have flippers. Yeah, left out's taken from Comet. Um or well, Comet, Fathom, like any any game of any game like that.
    73:22
    I do love that in lane, outlane setup. It's a delightful surprise. Is it Em that uses it, too? Uh it's super confusing. I I don't think Emil No, no, I think Emon uses it on the left. Yeah, but on the left. Okay. Or maybe it's I don't know. I think it I think Embreion has sort of like a setup like Paragon where it has like the the beast out lane. I think from what I from what Yeah, I'm trying to piece it together in my head. I always confuse the two. All right, so Jason Gwyn starts his mode and it looks like twist contest which means he wants to hang out up in the pops as much as possible. Yeah. Talk about a game where you want to play the modes. I mean, similar to King Kong, there is a bunch of points in these modes. Oh, there's so much. Um, one of one of my favorite things to do on this game is to to play that little car that car spinner mode, whatever it is. Yeah, that's the clean the car mode. Yeah. Yeah, that one is worth so many points. It is. As soon as somebody starts clean the car, I'm like game over. You just you just got millions. Plus, the spinners are so ripable, too. Yep. And he spins for days. Look at that. He's got his shot on the right lit. Is that the gun bonus lit or the big It's not the big kahuna. Uh yeah, it's the gun bonus. Gun bonus is lit. There he goes. Picks up the gun bonus. That's going to be 122,000 for that shot. Threw it right back to his flipper. Yep. Great grab. Yeah, that was awesome. Uh he squeezed right right behind that drop target and clicked his lock. Very cool. Yeah, you can you can skip if you can knock down a drop target and get between them, you can skip a drop target or two. Yeah, similar to like Stranger Things. Um, I think that's only if you have your lock lit from clearing the drops. Okay. Um, and then like next ball it'll keep your progress, but you still have to hit like the drops will still be up, but you can collect the lock even if you don't get all the drops down. So, he was trying to pick up the the hurry up at the end of the mode. Uh, was not able to get it, but that can be valuable, but it's it's all right. You still get a bunch of points on the mode. Yep. BFR says, "I can't uh get a clean shot on the spinners during clean your car." I mean, if I'm if I'm going to miss the spinners, it's always on clean your car mode cuz I'm so excited for a giant rip that I just go too early and end up bricking off the uh the left side of the briefcase targets. You know what? You know something I see right now? What's that? Go for character. Go for the character multiball cuz he has his locks on the the briefcase. Yep. And so he just gets a free plunge up there every time. So he needs to he only needs to hit the saucer twice and then hit that right saucer to start his multiball. Yeah. So right here is where you can pick up that character. Right here is where you can actually save your character's ball to which not a lot of help on ball three. Uh I he's he did save Jules though. Um I think I think he saved Jules. The character thing can be frustrating if you're really going for character chaos and intentionally. You have to relight them every time or you have to save them up at that uh target on the left. Yeah. And so you might get four of five and then you know drain a ball and you're starting over. I love these opto spinners, Chris. I'm with you. They just they just roll forever. You can even miss the spinner shot and still get a couple of spinners. Yeah. It's sort of like uh Iron Man. Yeah, that's what it reminds me of. Oh, nice. Yeah, nice nudge to keep it in. Hits the briefcase and then Oh, no. So, this is my beef with the game. My beef with the game is you've got your inline drops here. You've got your drop target here. If you hit either of those or even take an eject from the saucer, sometimes you're going a serious risk of going straight down the middle. And any game that punishes you for doing the right thing frustrates me. Right. Uh, that's that's why I hate X-Men. Same problem. X-Men. Uh, well, the problem with X-Men is just that the game was designed around the center post. Um, yep. Like Duck Danger already said in an interview that the first thing he put on that game was a center post. And I'm like, that is not a good idea. No, you don't. I love a good center post. It's not a good one. That's the thing. No, it's not a good It's not a good center post. Well, it's not actually in the center either. It's just in the center of the flippers. Um, yeah, I have a hard time judging that center. Like for a normal game where it's right here in the center like this one, I can tell when it's going to hit. On that one, because it's offc center, I have a really hard time telling when it's going to hit. Yeah. Um, I feel like it also doesn't really help how clunky with how clunky the shots are on that game, too. And how many times you break shots and then it goes straight down the middle. Yeah. All right. All right. So, he's going to try and trap left and get that get that watch shot if he gets it a couple of times. Oh, this this mode broken. Um I remember whenever this drop target or drop catch rather. I remember whenever this game came out, this mode was broken like crazy. What was it doing? Oh, here's one. It was just the scoring on it was so insane. um like you would you'd get like um I don't know what raises the value of it, but there was something you could do on the game that would bring it up to like a million each time you hit it. And so it' be like really easy to roll the game. Oh, really? Okay. Um yeah, no game should be easy to roll. No. 350,000 for that second one. Big collect and then a nice shot into the briefcase after a spinner rib. I know uh Carl D'Angelo has a video of it of him doing it. Really? Um, yeah, it's insane. Um, thankfully they changed the boat. They got they got it fixed. Yeah, there's always a period of score balancing that happens, right? This happened with D and D2 where all the points were in the multiball and then they have started to balance that out a little bit. Misses the hurry up on the right. Still does have Kahuna lit though and could get a 2x multiplier going.
    79:34
    He got it. That's a wrap. going see put in the score. He said, "I'm not even going to finish that." That's a um that's a very safe feed. So, if it's coming out of that right saucer and you just let a dead bounce, it's an easy trap on the left. Yeah, that seems like the something you'd want to do every time. Yeah. Really nice ball from Eric Wartenberger there to finish up and take the win on Pulp Fiction here in round three. I like what Fuzzy Cord said in chat. He said, "Uncanny X-Men played great for about a week, then became a then became steadily clunkier, more and more clunkier." Um, yeah, that that's the problem with the game. It's so bad. It's I mean, it's a cool layout, but it just doesn't work. Um, and they've they've reworked the code three times, you know. Do you know that? I didn't know that. No, they've reworked the code three times. It's tough because I was really excited about a really unique layout. I like that it's new, newish, right? They kind of borrowed the bottom from Gold Wings, but it it it's something very different. I I like Foo Fighters, you know, Jack's other big game, and um it just does shoot a little clunky. It's just it's hard to get any sense of flow in that game. Um also, I think the scoring is so unbalanced right now. Like I I personally don't think it should be used in any tournaments right now. It's that bad. Yeah, it's bad. We don't have one uh at Arcade Legacy anymore because because the scoring was not lending itself to tournament because the shooting was really clunky. So yeah, we uh Jesse moved on. But all right, let's see. He put in scores. Who else is still playing if anybody? We'll find out. Grand Prix. Ah, we're still watching Grand Prix play. So I know Elizabeth was uh has already rolled this one. I can see Jeff Wester Camp playing now. I'm not sure what ball they're on, but I'm going to go look just so I have an update.
    81:37
    The new the new codes made it better. All right. Cuz I know I know like literally two weeks ago they they completely overhauled the code for the second time. Um
    81:53
    I I don't think I've played on the new they are in ball five player four and they are all in the 800 range. Oh wow. Except for Elizabeth. Elizabeth rolled it and then back around to 500,000. Oh wow. So it looks like 850 for player one. Elizabeth at one well one.5
    82:18
    and I cannot see the others because there's people in the way. So they're going to they're going to put those scores in and it looks like all scores are reported. If you look at our leaderboard here on the right, uh again it's still early three rounds but you can see we've got Sean, Eric, Roy, and Sydney with a heck of a start. Justin, Elizabeth, Trent, and some other folk right behind. You know, one game I miss so bad. What's that? Led Zeppelin. Yeah, I miss Zeppelin so bad. Man, you and I have very different taste in pinball. Z I It flows so nice. Um that is the opposite of how I would describe Zeppelin when I play it. I think it flows nice. As as long as you as long as you wax the game. Yeah. um before you play it. It plays really nice because Okay. You you have to wax the game for it to be able to make it up that right ramp. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we we had we had the pro and so we didn't even have like the electromagic or the side ramp. Yeah. And so it still played really nice. Yeah. I know people like the premium version quite a lot. I haven't played it much. I personally like the pro better. Oh, looks like we're going to hot tip. All right. Let's come back to that cuz I want to play the mintorial on hot tip. All right. Let's play this and then we'll come back.
    83:36
    Give me some Captain Nemo in the fourth. Let's play some hot tip pinball. Okay, when you plunge, you will plunge into a top saucer. You will see different awards up top. If you hit the slings up top, it will change that award. Once you land in the saucer, you will collect that award and also advance your bonus. You can either collect various amounts of points or you can collect double bonus if it's on the red or you can light the captive ball if it's on white. If you like the captive ball, the captive ball is now worth 30,000 points and you shoot it into the target into the back and that will get you 30,000 points. Also, when the ball comes down to the pop bumper area, you have the hot tip drop targets. These are very important because the first time you hit all six down, you will light the spinner for a thousand a spin. The second time you hit them down, you will light extra ball at the saucer on the left, which also awards 5,000 points and advances your bonus. the third time down, all the drop targets will be worth a thousand points. And once you knock them down for a third time, the fourth run through the drops, they are worth 10,000 points a piece for the rest of the ball. You can advance bonus also by the little target here in the pop bumper. Your goal is to get spinner lit. Keep ripping through the spinner and going up top until you have double bonus and then max out your bonus with help from the captive ball and the target in the pop bumper area. You can have max bonus of 200,000 points. That's hot tip. That's hot tip indeed. Yeah, this is such a divisive game. Some people absolutely love it. As you can see in the chat, you know, top five favorite emiss. And then others call it hot trash. It's uh for a reason. It's hot, beautiful trash. That's what it is. All right. All right. Well, let's let's play some hot tip. You're seeing Angie Wartenberger with her first ball. So much of this game depends on that bounce up top because you need to light this double bonus and get it in the scoop. And it looks nice that it's lit when you plunge, but the odds of it staying lit are very low because you're going to bounce around. So, you almost you almost want the ball to be like or the light to be here so you can get a couple bounces and in cuz I can never land it directly in there. I like um almost I like of course getting your double bonus. But then if I like the captive ball, I'll just go for that all day instead of going for the spinner. I feel like I feel like the captive ball is safer than the uh drop turrets. I you know, I have seen people who are really comfortable going for that captive ball. Um I've seen Carlos spend quite a lot of time on that and then a lot of others like me that just are so afraid of that, so afraid of that shot. It is a really really tight shot to be fair. Um, all right. I'm up on Doctor Who. All right. Good luck. I'm going to loop out. Just go loop all day. Yeah. So, yeah, you can see it's called hot trash right up here on Eric's back glass. That's exactly right.
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    That's going to be a center drain for Heather, but she's going to finish right under 60,000. Not a terrible start. Jay Denim, one of our intrepid TDs, is up next. Hello, Elizabeth. Hey. What are you up on? I'm on Jungle Queen. Jungle Queen. You want to know what happened this last game? Uh, we watched uh we narrated the end, but it seemed like you were off to a pretty rich start right at the beginning. Yeah. So, I rolled it, but uh Carlos got last with 800,000. I saw Everybody was in the 800s. Yeah. Not rolling it somehow except me. That was amazing. And you almost rolled it on ball one, right? Yeah, I had 800. I had eight ate something like a high eight. It was nutty. I It was weird. Oh, this isn't Grand Prix. This is hot tip. But yeah, this is an off-centered Grand Prix. It sort of is. And this is Summer Sheen. And her name's not showing up, but uh we have three Sheenans in today's competition. Heather, Summer, and Thomas. Oh, fun. Yeah. And we saw Thomas and Summer earlier. Now we get to see Heather and Summer. Now, this one's very different to Grand Prix. Uh mainly because the shots are not in the right spot. So the spinner is going to be way late. You're going to see a lot of people kind of bricking that post right there. Yep. Yep. Especially if they're used to playing Grand Prix. We were struggling with Grand Prix earlier because we were shooting too late. And now on this one, people are going to shoot too early. Mhm. Mhm. Cuz they got used to that spinner shot on Grand Prix. Yep. That's how that's how this game plays. Yep. This is an all women group. I don't know what the sort of gender balance is today, but it's pretty pretty good. Cool. We love to see it. Yeah, for sure. We also love to see a lit spinner. Heyo. Yeah, we do go for that rip. That's fun and different.
    88:29
    Ah, tough rainbow at the end. No picking that up, but fairly productive at 129. Not a bad start. Angie had a really tough start. 10,000 on ball one.
    88:44
    Angie is also one of our hosts and has always done a ton of work to make this thing work. So, her and Eric, just a massive shout out to both of them for opening up their home, their basement, their games every year for this.
    89:00
    Another tough feed to the left out lane. Again, I don't know that you were saving that. It didn't even look like she could have saved it off the top of the sling. It was just it it was a heat seeker looking for that left elbow. I like that term heat seeker. They just wanted it. Oh, double bonus. Very nice. So, let's make good use of it by building up that bonus. Right. Oo. Now, drop targets do not advance bonus, right? I don't think they do. Uh drops don't advance. The uh captive ball does the saucer at the top. The scoop saucer. No, both saucers. I mean, and unlike uh Grand Prix, you cannot lose it from the in lane, right? You can drop catch can alley pass. That's that's a common strategy. And you can technically drop catch on Grand Prix, but you better be really good at it cuz you have to stop it before it gets there. I got to make sure I'm not up. No one's standing at that game. They're all just waiting for you.
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    All right, Jay Denim, show us what's up. Deborah Tolman, hello. How are you playing today? Uh, well, I'm I'm playing all right. Yeah, the games are playing like ass. Are there being big jerks? They're being big meanies. Big meanie games. Yeah, it happens. I've also played like two of the modern games and they're set on a hyper tight tilt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, did you see that double tip over with Jay? No, that Did I miss that? I turned my head for a second. Yeah, you turn. You know, we get sometimes don't Sometimes we turn our heads. Sometimes we do. I build a little bonus there. I'm like, nice drop. Paying attention to where the bounces and the kick outs are on this game because I know it's going to happen. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Just missed a double bonus. Oh, so close. Oh, she Oh, and then a ricochet in out. That's tough. We were saying before this is an all women's group and that our our gender balance here today is really good. Our gender balance. Yeah, if you look at Tell me more about gender balances. As in it's not a all dudes playing. I think maybe I just like to say I I like to talk about like the way you describe things. Might be like my new thing. She said that earlier about a couple terms I used. Maybe I just talk weird. You said well but you said something cool and I don't remember exactly what was cool about it, but it's true story. Whatever it was. Look, another woman. That's what I'm saying. Everybody. Ah. Oh. Oh no. Almost had that right left flam save. Couldn't quite save it. Uh all right. All right. Well, this woman gets to go play King Kong. All right. Good luck. Talk about your tight tilt. Ouch. Pray that I don't tilt. Ouch. Just don't touch it. Yes. Good luck to the ladies. Don't use the buttons or anything.
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    uh odds and evens pretty easily. That's a good one to practice on. I I don't We haven't had that one on the stream yet today, but So, Heather's at 160 out in the lead right now and climbing. She does have that captive ball lit, which will give you an advanced bonus and 30,000 when lit.
    92:16
    All right, Jay Denim, a regular at our Thursday night tournaments at Arcade Legacy. She also helps maintain the machines, helps run the tournaments as a TD, uh helps with the Sea Witches tournaments as well, which is the local bells and chimes league.
    92:40
    Oh, not able to get anything going on that one. So, she's going to finish that ball at 123. We are on ball three, but it is a fiveball game.
    92:52
    Right now, you can see Heather Sheen out with a good lead about 50,000 ahead, but not if Summer has anything to say about it. I love the family rivalry games. These are always fun.
    93:18
    A little bit of uh bouncing around the middle there, hoping to get those the last target cleared, but no luck. You can shoot right at that target, but you're sure to get some chaos as a result.
    93:35
    Heather finishes at 204, putting her in the lead going into ball four. Hopefully Angie can get something going. She had a couple of, you know, things starting to look okay, starting to get things set up and then unfortunately had a really tough left side drain and then a a missed flam save in the center. A full plunge and swat game. Yeah, that's pretty accurate. I mean, again, so much depends on She got that double bonus up top, so like that's a huge deal. Now you can really start focusing on building bonus, but it's not like Grand Prix where you just want to rip the spinner all day. I kind of want to rip the spinner. Well, I I want to get back up to the saucer and then hope that I survive a hope that I survive the potty pops. Yeah, once you've got your double bonus, it's still worth going back up to advanced bonus right up in the saucer. But you can also do that in a couple of other ways. the left saucer. You can do it over at the captive ball. No captive ball. Has anybody been has anybody been trying to hit the captive ball on this? Junior was just saying that is his primary strategy. Yeah, but on this one. Yeah. Is Junior here? He's He's here. I'm like I apologize. I don't know. It's personal experience. Oh, these balls are too fast. Yeah, she didn't really get any time with that one. Poor Heather. So that's rough because she started out, you know, she was in the lead last ball and then just you just get a bad ball and all of a sudden it opens up the door for anybody else to come in and take that lead from you. Are they just plunging out player four? Is that what's going on? Or is
    95:14
    Oh, it's just a player is not coming up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That score is too good for just a plunge off. Okay. Yay. There's our player four. I thought this was just a three player group.
    95:30
    Okay. Oh, no. No. No. Yeah. You and me both, kid. That's been my day so far. I can't believe King Kong let me play for a hot second. All right. We are on What ball are we on? I can't. Ball five. Okay. All right, Angie. Oh. Oh. Oh. So almost
    95:56
    almost double bonused. Good ski pass over. It's just It's dangerous. It's dangerous anywhere other than up top at the top of the playfield. All these bounces are just making me nervous. So we may have our our name issue resolved. Eric was just over here. Yeah, we got Summer on now. Oh, and I get to play now. Yep. Just over here working it out. thanks to the uh Discord, the uh discussion on Discord about how to make match play work its best. He was able to figure that out. So, thanks to everybody who contributes on there as well. What a community this is. I mean, everything from how to build a rig to how to set up your streaming for Twitch to how to use matchplay. Matchplay itself is, you know, community-led. So, just what an amazing community of people who are constantly contributing to make pinball not only more fun to play, but more fun to watch, more fun to stream. I love how everybody is chipping in. All right, our player three, Jay Denim, now at 158 because we're ball five. This is This is everything. You're everything. You're everything. I am. Good one. Recognized. Recognized. What was that light? The captive ball. Yeah, so the captive ball that I don't like going for. Yep. Even though I know that's tempting advice. Oh yeah. Great nudge to stay in. I love that party. Uh what was that? Just 5,000 on Watch this replay on the right. Watch this nudge to stay in barely works it over. That was a combination of nudging when you needed to and then stopping nudging when Yeah, exactly. Don't over nudge. Nice. So Jay knows it's ball five. This is do or die. And she chooses do. And I'm very happy about how she's just picking up that spinner rip. That's smart. Yep. Is it bounce over? Oh, goes goes for that captain ball. No, it's a trap. It's a trap. Oh, that's Oh, nice job. She's doing it good. Oh, it's such a trap. It's such a trap. So, she went north of it, then went south of it. Maybe Maybe she can dial in the middle this time. Dead bounce. Dead bounce. I think I think she lost her. Let's get control. Let's get control. There you go. Nice. Okay. All right. We'll build up that bonus a little bit. Here's the problem. She isn't lit for double bonus on ball five. It's not automatic. So, that's where even though that's lit, keep going up top. Try and get that double bonus lit first and then worry about that 30,000. Then worry about Thank you. My two cents. But, you know, easy for me to say I'm sitting on this side. Yeah. I'm not playing. Armchair players. Yeah. Exactly. Those who can't watch and those who really can't commentate. Those who can't play watch. Those who can't just watch entertain us. That's right. Oh, okay. And you have to get How does How does the uh the captive ball work in terms of like points? Do you just have to hit the rollover or do you get only get it if you go all the way up? Uh the rollover I think advances bonus. Okay. Okay. So, you don't but you don't get the points value unless you hit it hard. Go all the way back to that target. I assume that that's the case. Oh, see that might have been a case of a slight over nudge. It's hard to tell. It's so tricky, right? Cuz you want to intervene. That nudge half the time saves you. 335 323. She just needed to stay in it a little bit longer. So close. She would have had the thing. Hello everybody, by the way. And yes, it's hot trash. We all know it's hot trash. So that finishes us at 335 for Heather Sheen. That's going to be seven more points. Now again, we're in round four. Heather Sheen now picks up seven more points. That's a big win, right? Yeah. When you when you look at So we're doing Swiss pairing, meaning you're paired with people who are having similar scores. Happens to be tiered Swiss pairing, so you might be sort of close without being exact. But Heather just doubled her score. Whoa. Right. That's a big deal. Yeah. It also means that in the next round, Heather's going to play people who are having a better day than she is cuz now she's going to play people who are doing 14, not seven, right? Math. I hear math. Lots of math in there. I hear I hear addition. Second place is going to go to Summer. So, the family battle go went to Heather this time. Uh, third place is going to go to Jay for three points and one point for Angie, putting her at eight. Cool. More math. Let's see where Jay takes us. This is a good little tour of Eric's basement, Pulp Fiction, some Rocky and Bullwinkle, some Walking Dead, some Cheetah. Wait, saying names of games. Tell me how tiered Swiss works if not that. My understanding was that you have tiers that get increas increasingly tight over time and so you end up in increasingly close groups. Well, let's find out how it actually works, shall we?
    100:52
    How many rounds does it take before you start playing people that are kind of in your same because I feel like in this round the the the four of us at the bottom we're like yeah we we played to get here. Yeah. I mean now that we're going into round five I would assume we're starting to get paired together with people with like points but maybe I do I do know it's it's it is supposed to be progressively tighter. But you said that already, right? Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know how tight. I don't know exactly how tight we are at round five, but how tight is it? Tune in to find out KY open. Uh while y'all are while we're talking uh about the logistics of the game, um we are playing 10 rounds today. We're going to take a break after round six. So, two rounds from now for about a half an hour, get some food. Um but we're going to play 10 rounds of qualifying and then we're going to go to 16 in the A division, 16 in the B division. We have 55 players. So, that means there's going to be 23 players who are in neither of those. And they can opt into our unsanctioned uh third tournament, which uh whose name I can't say on the air. That's the only tournament that I want to play. It's the really fun one. Oh, bye, Elizabeth. Looks like we're going to be watching some Jungle Queen or alternately named. Let me get us on the right players for that. Oh, plunging the B. Immediately plunges the B. Oh, you never never flip with an upper flippy. Never. Don't do it. Oh, no. H. She did though. She did do these upper flippies, they're a trap. They're they're they're hardcore a trap because the angles of them, they start shooting things off in just the way that the ball wants to drain to the out. It usually takes a couple bounces, but it gets there. Yep. So, like I'll use I'll use the upper flippers um if I hit the very back of the upper flipper because then I trust the angle that the ball's going off on it more. But don't I I really try here. You're just creating lateral chaos. Lateral chaos. That's another great phrase. Yeah, that's the name of my metal band actually. We'll be playing next week at your local metal bar. I'm going to actually start writing down all the cool things that you say. Lateral. Don't for the love of God. What was it? Gender blending. I don't know. Gender. Gender balance. Oh my god. Gender balance. We got this. I'm not commentating with you anymore. What? Do I need to leave? Writing down my nonsense. I can leave. It's a trap. Yeah. I mean, these upper flippers are a trip, right? They seem like a feature. They're not. That was that was really good though. The like using judiciously using the tip to stop the ball so it drops drops down of the flipper, but it's so scary. It is to let it sort of like roll down there or tip off of it. How do I clear it? Oh, I got you. right here. Okay, thank you. I tried to use the center button. All right, Stew does not clear. That looks like a 56, not a 66. So, Elizabeth sneak through with this skin of her teeth indeed. So, she is guaranteed a third place. Stu is guaranteed a fourth. The question is who's getting first and second? That's between Eric and Maddie Ice Goslin.
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    Beard. Can you draw a beard on somebody who already has a beard? Can you I bet you Well, you've just proven you can. You absolutely can. See, he he had the he had the chance to use a little flipper and he didn't. This is his game. So, even though it was dangerous not to at that point, he Matty Ice is up against the 5,000 point threshold, which is not a gimme. It's not a gimme. It's not a gimme. You got to figure these drop targets are only worth 500 ft. You got this, Eric. This is all going to be about bonus because double bonus is lit on ball five. So the question is what is the easiest way to add bonus and not tilt? The easiest way to add bonus and not tilt is two drop targets. Two drop targets. Yeah, two drop targets. Two drop targets. I want to remember this. But don't you always still want to to plunge the bee? That's what we always Yeah. Yeah. Plunge for the bee. Then once you're down on those flippers, normally I don't I don't go for drop targets right off the bat on this game cuz they can be really dangerous, but I sure do right now. So 2,000 doubled to four. It is not enough. There's number two. Don't tilt. So if he wants to, he could just take it, but I sure wouldn't. Also, just don't tilt. Just for the love of God, don't tilt. Oh, there it is.
    105:28
    Mhm. Wow. I I never I've never thought about this game in such a simplistic like I mean like that's really smart to do if I'm playing it and I'm that close to winning. Yep. Um but I have to get like yeah 6,000 points or something. Couple of drop targets. I you know I'm always like my my highle strat is going for the saucers. But that would be really unnecessary under the circumstances. Yeah. I mean that that's generally what I do too. again. Ball five, double bonus. Get a couple of drops, call it a day, and then then then you have more time to go listen to lateral chaos. Coming to you. Chicago Bob's New Band I'll Coming to you. 2025 Spotify, I'll take bass if you take lead guitar. Can you You want to do vocals? I will do vocals. Okay. Yeah. Done. You got them pipes. Chicago Pop. And welcome to the chat, Chicago. Glad to have you. Uh, so that's Jungle Queen for you. That's our first time putting Jungle Queen on. So, we may keep that on stream for the next round unless Eric decides to move. He's in charge today. What does it mean to say round four is 16 168? I'm assuming those are the tiers, but I don't know. Oh, like within within like a spread of 16. Yeah. Is that what like the lowest 16, the next 16, the next 16, the top eight? Yeah, that makes sense. or the other way around that that you wouldn't end up playing anyone like further than 16 spots away from you is I think what that means. That sounds right. You guys will have to tell us. You're the experts. Uh but but essentially the idea was there which is it gets progressively tighter and you play people who are closer. Cory says, "Nice tank, Deborah. Today is a t-shirt showoff day because everybody's uh super warm because it's July. We're going to Bad Girls. We're going to Bad Girls. And I know you didn't say it, but progressively tighter. That is also that's that's a term I'm saving. All right, let's learn how to play Bad Girls.
    107:29
    Let's keep it weird with some Bad Girls pinball. Off the bat, when you plunge, you'll go up to the top lanes or you can short plunge and have it drop short of the top lanes, come back down to the upper flipper, and have an opportunity to shoot straight into the lock for multiball right off the plunge. When you hit drop targets down, that will increase your end of ball bonus and collect pool balls. Once you collect all the drop targets, the eight ball target will light. Once you hit that down, you will collect a rack. You can collect up to three racks worth 50,000 a piece towards your end of ball bonus. You can multiply your end ball bonus by hitting the vera target over here to the right. You can get up to 10x bonus for a max end of ball collect of 1.5 million. Also, if you hit the verit target enough, you will light special. That's worth 500k at the Vera target. You can hit the right orbit for increasing awards up to 500,000 points. Also, while you're increasing those awards, these top lanes will light blue for 100,000 points on the left and and 250,000 points on the right. You can collect pool letters, which are at the top lanes up here and the in lanes. Each time you collect pool, you will increase the value of the eightball target up to 500,000 points. To start multiball, hit the eightball target and then shoot behind that into the saucer. Once you're in multiball, the spinners will light for 20,000 points. Outside of that, the rest of the game is available to you. You can collect racks. You can advance your bonus multipliers and advance the right orbit values. Also, after you collect a rack, these spot targets behind the drop targets will light the regrack mode. These inserts in front of the targets will start flashing. Each time you hit a target, it will increase the value. I've seen values over three million points for this rerrack mode. Very valuable. Go after this mode safely in multiball. Finally, the jackpot mode. Every 40 switches you hit in this game will light the pop bumpers. They will start flashing. Once you hit one pop bumper, you have to hit eight more pop bumpers before you hit any other major switch on the playfield, or else they will turn off and you will lose the jackpot. The jackpot is progressive. This grows very slowly and is not worth going for. Finally, for real this time on your final ball, if you have a pitily amount of points, usually less than 200,000 points, if you drain straight down the middle here, you will receive a scratch award for 500,000 points. That's Bad Girls. Yeah, I would love it. Well, that's how you play Bad Girls. Bad. Bad. Possibly the best soundtrack in all of pinball. This one I do like it. It is actually super fun. It is super fun. That little bad bad bad bad bad. Actually, every time I play this game, I think of you because I hear it go bad bad and I think of you going bad bad. I I every time I play this, I think of me as well. All right, let me find this one and find the correct players. I might be player three. It's hard to tell. Let's try that.
    110:30
    All right, you're watching Greg Knight. Greg Knight, who I think did he win or came in second the other day at the So, there was a Thursday tournament as well at Arcade Legacy. We do it every Thursday, 700 p.m. streamed at Arcade Legacy's Twitch and Greg was in the top four. Did he win? Who won that?
    110:52
    Somebody. I know Doug was the Doug Kaiendle was the only arcade legacy regular who was in the top four on that one. Los one. Okay. Los one. Greg Knight. Doug Kikindle. And who was our other who was our other top four finisher? Anyway, 136. Not a ton for Greg Knight to start out, but I've certainly seen worse. This is a Gotautly premier era game. This is uh Eric's one of Eric's favorite pinball eras. And uh you heard on the minatorial how to play it. I got alternate instructions yesterday to just shoot the right orbit all day. I was talking with Junior about it and Junior uh kicked my butt in it. And I said, "What's the trick?" And he said, "Forget that multiball. Forget the rrack. Shoot the right orbit all day." Oh, Mike Dawn. Mike Dawn was the other top four finisher. Thank you. Hopefully we'll get to see Mike play today. He's a really fabulous player. I've never seen somebody practice as hard as Mike Dawn does. He will play a game for four hours. Yeah, he's pretty uh focused. He's a focused type of player. I can't do it. Once I've played three or four games, I need to try something else. But he will sit four hours of the same game until he's really got it down. I kind of prefer to play like that, if that makes sense. Like focus on one game instead of just kind of like playing all of them because it's less it means less. I don't know. Yeah. Especially if it's for me it's like about exploring a game. So like D and D I can play for four hours straight because it's a different game as you play all the time. That's true. With older games I just I I tire pretty quick. Yeah. But even then though it's like oh I want to roll it. I want to roll it. You're so close and then it has that draw. It keeps wanting to bring Space Shuttle. I do remember playing for like 3 hours trying to get that multiplier up in the on the drop targets because it's just so hard. It's so hard to get all three drops down over and over and over again. I wanted to get to max out that multiplier and it took me a couple hours to do. Uh, tough break there. Yeah, that was no fun for Nathan. So, back to Greg Knight. This one has been playing pretty quick. We might end up getting a twofer on this round. We'll see. All right,
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    this is not a game you see a lot on location. I'm curious if folks out in the internettosphere uh have played much. Well, if you tuned in for this over past few years, like we we've seen a lot of Bad Girls. Yeah, you see here every time. Yeah, there's some consistency there. And probably a Cincinnati as well. I'm sure we've played this. Yeah, it snuck its way into Cincinnati, too. Yeah. So, quick up and down for Greg Knight there. Up and down. Jason Hunley hopefully will have more luck cuz he had a rough start. No, I'm not up. He might be winning the t-shirt competition today. I love Jason. Jason and Greg both I feel are just like the biggest fans of people. Oh, they really are. They really are. That Nikki, those three that trio Nikki just makes you feel good. Yeah, all three of them just feel like, you know, they're they're your besties for the rest of us. Yeah, man. When you're when you're talking to Nikki Miller, you feel like the most important person in the world. She just is so good about that. Oh man, that left out lane. Of course, that was that was him. That was a post. He knows was you. But hey, that you you can you're allowed to do that once, right? And then you make the adjustment. Yep. Was he going for the very target there? I don't know. Um, those shots are very late on that flipper. Everything on the right side is very late. So, that could have been a right orbit. Could have been a varied. When Chris told me to just just keep focusing on right orbit, I did a few practice balls on it and it's really late. It It is. It feels like I I think of it like an early alley pass. It's like I'm going to alley pass. No, that's what it feels like. It feels like the Game of Thrones light lock shot. You know, when it's like right off the tip, not super light on Game of Thrones. Hell yeah. That's the only way I can not on that game. No,
    114:47
    I did not know. I did not know Baltimore. Is that the the collective? Baltimore has a Bad Girls on location. Chicago Billyard Cafe has a Bad Girls. Isn't that awesome? When you see one of these out in the wild, that means somebody loves it because these are not common machines. They're a little bit hard to take care of in that if you don't know these spec this system. They can be a little bit hard to work on.
    115:16
    Kind of weird to get parts for, etc. My guess is Pinball Resource probably would have what you need. But one in San Francisco operated by Free Gold Watch. I love Free Gold Watch. It is one of the cooler and weirder pinball places I have played. It's like half pinball place, half t-shirt factory. Lots of really unique machines.
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    Oh man, you guys are naming all kinds of cool places to find a Bad Girls. Barcade Brooklyn. Is that the place that No, I'm thinking of Sunshine Laundromat. I think that's in Brooklyn. I don't know about y'all, but I look for unique machines when I'm going on location. Of course, I love a big collection, but I really look for unique machines, things I can't play anywhere else, and that you never see out in the world. And it tends to be that those, as you can imagine, are the hardest to buy parts for, some of the hardest to maintain. Um, so it's pretty special when you see them on location because that means somebody loves that game enough to take care of it even though it's tricky.
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    That was a tough center drain for Sarah. You can see we are flying through this game. Brutal. We are flying through this game. Okay. Getting that something. Oh, this was a punch. Okay. But so he's been hitting the right orbit a bit. That does carry over ball to ball. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah. And then it resets once you collect the the top value prize, which it is what, 500,000. Yeah. For the extra ball, something like that. You hear that loud click click click click. Yep. Yeah. It does like a shotgun. Yeah. With the knocker. Yep. the OG knocker. Man, how fast was that game? I feel like you blink and you miss it. Eric's already sizing up where he might want to go next or playing next to it. Who knows? Oh, look. Eric's posting. Chuck, we're That's fun. A Everybody else in the group collectively groans when you pick Bad Girls. That's really seems to be the reaction. I love this game. It's not as bad as Hot Tipper Stars, but I I I like both of those games, too. I do, too. I love stars and everybody looks positively crestf fallen when you pick it. They just m like you just ruin their day. Yeah. I mean like I don't play it well every time. But I mean it just has such cool moments. Like that's that game. It's cool moments. I completely speaking of size according to to some the collective sigh for hot trash. We were just on this one so I won't play the uh the tutorial again. Good call. Good call. But we're gonna watch Eric, Justin, Thomas, and Rhonda play this. Another family here, the Whamsley family. This is a game. Would you Would you bring your kids to play pinball? Uh I I don't know. It's tough. The good thing about older games like this is that it's so clear and you know there's the there's the target and there's the you know what you're trying to do. Yeah. And then you know once you start seeing that score pile like it it just makes sense so quickly. But there's no there's no sounds and flashy lights. Yeah. So they I guess kids may not be as interested. Yeah. In this one. Oh, Eric. Oh no. Rough life, dude. Dude, he just you could I don't know what he was saying to himself. He's wanting to dead bounce that. That was a tough read right off the tip of the flipper. He might have missed the button. I don't I think I think he might have missed. I think he might have been going for a flip or something. I don't know cuz it it looked like it tried. Yeah, there was a little bump, but you know, the ball kind of moves it. I think Well, that's true, too. That's true, too. Yeah, this game may may not keep the interest of kids. I don't know. But I tell you what, it's one for me, it's a family hobby. You can totally bring the family. You can bring elderly relatives. You can bring kids.
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    Some tournaments, you know, are a little bit more adulty than others, but I bring my daughter, my 15-year-old, to tournaments all the time, and she has a great time and people are really cool to her.
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    All right, Justin Schnetzer at 24 points along with Eric Wartenberger.
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    Having a pretty good day. If you're 24 points in round seven, you're a pretty good day or round five rather. That
    119:43
    means you're averaging six points a game, right? Out of a possible seven. Doing pretty well.
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    Pin Wendy. Yeah, cuz she's pretty cool. I assume you're talking about my daughter, in which case, thank you. And I agree. I'm a big fan.
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    It's a cool family hobby. It's one of those things you can do your entire life.
    120:22
    All right, we got to see Thomas earlier. Thomas currently at 18, so also having a pretty okay day so far. Is this our first time seeing Justin Schnetzer? Perhaps.
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    We're on ball four of Hot Tip. So, right now, Eric is still out in the lead despite the rough ball three we saw. He's still out in the lead. Okay, good there. Again, the big trick on this one is go up top until you can get your double bonus lit, which he's going to do now. There you go. Nice. So, now you kind of think about that cap to ball. It's so dangerous. But it is uh 20k per when it's lit. Yeah. 30, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 31 lit. And super worth it if you can recover. Well, it's it's 20k because you're getting that bonus advance. I mean, oh, the bonus advance. Gotcha. Yeah, he's thinking about it. And he dies off of it. Yeah. There you go. And that's that's it. That's the problem. It So, when you roll over the the rollover, you get the advanced bonus one, two, right? And then if you hit the target in the back, so you've hit it hard enough, you can pick up that 30 when lit. Yeah. Well, I mean the switch actually might be advanced bonus. So that might be a 40k. I think does the switch or the target captive ball target. I thought the switch advances bonus and then the target is the Okay, you're right. So you're going over that twice, which is the 20k, but then you're doubling that. So that's 40k. So yeah, with double bonus on it's super valuable. Hot dog. So I'm not going to make fun of Eric for that one. Carlos likes to go for it, too. Okay. Oh, I'm glad you had fun in the in the booth with her. She likes sitting down in the booth when she's in good company. I think when with brand new people, she gets a little nervous, but but she's getting to know everybody at Sea Witches. If y'all don't have a local Sea Witches, uh C or Bells and Chimes or Women's League, uh start one cuz they're super fun, really amazing ways to learn pinball, to meet new people. Uh they tend to be incredibly connected and supportive communities and uh BA my daughter looks forward to it every time. Whoa. I the the screen jumped. Yeah, that was a weird looking I we got a couple of those. It might be struggling cuz it's all the way around the corner. So maybe it's having a hard time communicating cuz we had a couple of little jumps there with a ball warped. Okay, good. Rollover scores the bonus. Target scores one or 30.
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    Yeah. So, we nailed it. Yep. We nailed it. 1K or 3K. Could you imagine? All right, it's 3K now. Go for it. Shoot this super. Have fun. All right, Eric's going to come back here at 588. Uh, pretty pretty darn good lead. So, he's guaranteed second place at worst, but uh I assume he's gonna try and open up that lead against Rhonda to keep himself safe and we're always a fan of playing more pinball. Yeah, why not? Oh, yeah. That's a little weird. Good nudge off the wall there. Every once in a while you'll get tapped out if you're just have a runaway game and you're holding everybody up, but that's not the case here. Okay. Decides to flip that out. Gets away with it, I think. Yeah. You can see we have a slight delay on this camera. Yeah. Your brain will fill up the gaps. Yeah, like there you go. Out lane. Y that's going to be a right out lane for a really strong finish at 643. Rhonda has a lot of catching up to do, but of course it is doable. Yeah, I've seen rolls in one ball. It kind of takes an extra ball, though. There's a 200,000 point bonus opportunity alone on this machine. Uh-huh. Oh, it's true. Plus, you can get awarded 100,000 in lane's a good start. Now, the thing that she's got going to have to adjust is shooting that flipper late. She's she's like to hit it a bit early. See this right here? Nice. There was a big old There you go. Yeah, perfect. So, you can get 10,000 per drop target if you complete the drop targets enough. I think it's what, three completions. Okay, so Yep. There you go. Back up top. Which also puts you down on the pop bumper, which puts you in drop target range. Misses the the double bonus. That would have been nice. Yep. All right. Right back up. No, that's just been one minute. We got so excited and then so disappointed. Collectively, such a good adjustment. Great rip again. She is getting right on that left side shot. Getting some points, advancing some bonus. Yeah, that's going to be bad. That's That's bad. The second that one went arai, I thought, oh no. Hey, but that was a really great last ball. Yeah, nice run, Rhonda. So, that's going to put Eric in first place. Really close battle for second between Thomas and Justin, but Justin picked it up or for Yeah, second. And then third went or fourth rather went to Rhonda. Funny comment here. I like watching these types of machines with quick drains. makes me feel better about my own skills. Yeah. Well, there there is that there is a small part of me when Eric gets up and has like a total house ball that I go, "Okay, that's right. It can happen to anybody. It's his machine. He knows it well." Yeah. And he has magnets set in these things to make sure he never gets out lane. That's true. Yeah, he does. He does cheat an awful lot. So much. Eric Chuck Chuck the Cheater. Chuck the Cheater. Have you ever seen the Brook Shields movie Tilt? Um, I don't know. No, it's like late '7s. Is it really bad? It's terrible. Okay. I've seen a few really bad pinball movies. Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen Tilt Now She's in control? Maybe that's the one. That one's more recent. Yeah, it was kind of a recent one and someone at Stern posted in one of our Slack channels and I was like, "Oh man, I'm going to have Yep." So, maybe I was the one that posted it now that I think about it. But, uh, yeah, that was the one I watched and it's so bad. I like almost anything that sort of lifts the hobby up. up and this certainly tried. Yeah. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah. It's terrible movie. The funny thing though is is the the most unrealistic part of that whole thing is the prize money at the end. The $30,000 prize. Well, it was something crazy. It was like a million dollars and they had Is that what it was? Yeah. And they had like 12 people there trying Yeah. And I'm like, it looked like just like a weekly tournament type thing, right? And you know, they're not, you know, of course they're not streaming it or anything like that. And it's like they're making up the rules of how a tournament works as a 100% 100%. And I think the last game they're playing is Doctor Who, I think. And of course, they layer over EM sounds over Doctor Who for reason. Naturally. And you know, it's like I guess one person played his entire ball and then the second girl played her entire game. I mean, the entire game. Yep. Oh, okay. We got a a what's it called? Like a Danish tilt. Is that what it's called? No. What do you call it? Uh, it's not Danish C. Oh, cantal lever is what what they call it. Oh, no. Is it? Well, that's one of the terms. There's a term for it where it is like a uh like a like German tilt. It's like a like a movie term. Yeah. Well, someone in the chat helped me out here. It's a real thing. Whatever it is, it's very dramatic. I like it. So, it makes Deborah look really in the thick of it. Intense. Oh, she gets away with it. Dutch tilt. Dutch tilt. Thank you. Danish. Danish sounds good. I knew it was like one of those Germanic ones and an in lane and a late flipper hit that she gets away with and no just kidding. You're not getting away with that one. All that hard work for that. Hey, it always feels really cool when you're getting away with a lot. So, okay, so we're on ball. It's just out of out of view. I think it's ball five. Do slant Danish Dutch tilt. I Oh gosh, it's in my head now. Oh, it's gone.
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    That was quick for Annie. She didn't really get a a proper flip at that. Yeah, I think it is ball five. I'm looking at the the little line to it. It's like a kind of looks like a five. Yeah. Oh, gets the in lane. So, I think there are three pinball movies called tilt. They love that. Two of them are terrible. They love that word. One is a documentary. Okay. We like documentaries probably better. Okay. So, we got the left spinner lit. Still only takes one. All right. gets away with that right there. It's always scary whenever the Yeah, Justin was kind of teasing that in lane. Doing it again. Shooting the spinner late. Uhoh. Oh, no. Just fine. So, that's a good use of a drop catch if you can do it. If you have that kind of control to not have it go all the way up, though. That That's the one we're wanting to save. Dead flip is the one to go. That's the way to go. And dead flip is also just a really nice guy. Yeah. Being Oh, I I've never met Jack, but I assume he's super tall. Is he super tall? Yeah, actually all of Stern employees are oddly tall. Maybe it's a prereg to working there. Yeah. Yeah, that and liking board games according to Dwight. Oh, really? Yeah, that was one of the interview questions. Do you like board game? Really? I mean, I happen to. Yeah. I don't know if I answered to his like standards, but maybe you had to be like, "Oh my god, are you kidding? It's my second favorite thing." You'll go and if if I would have if I were a super like well suckup, I would have said his game that Dwight does he have a board game? He Yeah, he developed a board game. It's called Legacy or No, noble. Nobleman. Nobleman. Okay. Getting away with it. Find the spinner. Getting away with murder. Nice. All right. Going to flip at it again. Going to be that. Nope. Okay. Byebye. Byebye. You have to be at least six feet tall to work at Stern. No. Yeah. Is I can name I can't name anyone. It's Rick. Rick is a shorter fold. Two people come to mind. Okay. Yeah. Ray. Yeah. Ray is quite shorter. And Tim. Tim was short. He's not as stern anymore, though, because he's he didn't he didn't meet the height requirement. Okay. And they're enforcing. They're like, "You're out of here." Yeah. Okay. Actually, now that you say it, a lot of the software guys are shorter. Um, but like game software, but the system software folks are tall and all of the designers are tall. So, you're saying I have a chance? Mhm. Okay. Sweet. You got like 50% there basically. So, if I like board games and I'm tall, 90% of the way to the interview. Yeah. And the last 10 is it's mostly card tricks at that point. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I got in. Is this your card? You're in. Well, we got a three for on that one. That was cool. Oh, did we? Wow. Yeah. We got to see what Bad Girls and then Hot Tip and then Grand Prix all in a row. This is round five. We have one more round before we're going to take a half an hour break and get some food and stretch our legs. Are we at that now? Uh, not yet. We've got one one more round and then we I was going to say I'm not I'm not even almost hungry. Oh, I got third. Darn. All right, Deborah wants to I said I want you and Elizabeth to sit down together. Two of my favorite commentators in the world. So, I'm going to step out for a second. Let's go make fun of Justin.
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    Let me take the name off so nobody thinks you're That would be embarrassing. I promise you. Who doesn't want to be Justin? Who doesn't? Oh man. Justin, actually, if you wanted to be my best friend, I left my water way over there and I just cannot reach. It's right there. And could you get me another beer? Wow. Deborah, that this Where are they? This isn't full enough for you? It's actually quite full. I just wanted to Don't get another beer. This is This is a full can right here. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's It's Yeah, it's it's full. It's actually full. I'm like, maybe it's just a very heavy koozie. Have you seen this beefy koozie? You can't even look. You can't see it. It's hiding.
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    That's funny. All right, let's talk pinball. Okay. Yeah, I can do that. I mean, if you really want me to. So, what do you think is the
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    stupidest rule to come out in the last five years? Probably on Jaws, probably. But not it does turned out pretty good. Deborah will always take advantage of the full butler the free the free the full and free butler service. Yeah. Well, somebody just called us powerhouses. A p power highs. It's the plural of house and this is why we hang out here. Yeah. It's always a joy. Um every year I'm like h do I want to go to Erics? I'm like, but Deborah is going to be there, so like I'll chill up. I'll show She doesn't She doesn't even know that she's legit. Okay, round seven will start at 3:30. Oh, so are we chilling for a minute? I No, we have one more round after the fact. Not that you would known cuz your is on military time. Oh, yeah. It's It's 14:21. What even is that? That uh I don't know, but Ezekiel 14:21 is Tell me. Tell me. I don't know. And I'm not going to make that. Play thee your pinball game. Play thee your pinball game. Rest thee in thy knowledge. It's a good thing that your your free games shall be there in yours. Wow. I hope Justin never listens to the playback for this one. Hey, Flipper Doctor. Oh, we're going to Jackpot. Let's play. Hi, Flipper Doctor. Do we have to play the tutorial? Jackpot. Jackpot's kind of jackpot. I was like, did he click the button for the tutorial? How about we give the tutorial? Can we give the tutorial? Yeah. Can we click the button for the tutorial? All right. So, the outlanes are the most important thing in the game. Uh, because that's how you get the extra ball. Whenever you're ready. Okay. Okay. Say the things and then we'll do the want to hit the roing. No, no, we're not doing the No. Okay. Hit the fine. Where's the button? Is Is it jackpot? Is it that one? That one. That one. Ready and go.
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    the jack. Let's get want to shoot to the so the ball rolls out safely to the flippers cuz you want to take advantage of playfield validation on this game whenever you can. Then once you're on the flippers, this grid in the middle here will have various rows or columns that rotate. If you can hit the lit target that corresponds to the lit row right off the plunge, the visor will open up immediately. This is important because when you lock both your balls into the visor, that starts multiball. The eyes in the saucer, the game saucer in the back here underneath the ramp and the hit me target over to the right will light for jackpots, which are your jackpots. If you can somehow put a ball into one of the eyes and then immediately into one of the other eyes, that is a super jackpot, which will be worth triple the value. You can always hit the game saucer also to relight all your jackpots during multiball. Next up, we have the game saucer in the back here, which is lit off the start of the ball. Once you hit it in there, it will start a a miniame on the DMD. You can cheat this miniame to help give you additional points by hitting the extra ball button, which is down here on the front of the cabinet below the plunger. Spam that button anytime you go into the game saucer. It will allow you to choose between collecting the points you've won or you can risk it to receive double the points by hitting underneath the ramp after the ball kicks out of the saucer. To relay the game saucer, you hit the left ramp. The game saucer games are important because once you play all four games in the game saucer, you will like casino run at the game saucer. Same shot. Once you start that, you will be in casino run. This is a 45se second untimed wizard mode. Once you're in casino run, you are trying to hit switch hits with pop bumpers to increase your score. But anytime you hit the ball into the game saucer or the eyes in the visor, the game will run a slot machine on the the DMD to award you more points and allow you to either cash out or continue to play. If you can cash out before the end of the 45 seconds, you will receive all your accumulated points. Watch out though, you could be hit with bombs which will kick you out of the mode and give you no points. Remember, you can cheat one of those bombs by hitting the cheat button on the front of the cabinet. The extra ball button right below the plunger. That's jackpot. I just realized something. I'm playing this game now. Um, player two. And I just You're on this game and I didn't even like watch I didn't watch You don't know what to do. Oh, no. Well, okay. So, this is what you actually need to know is that this plunger is so freaking sensitive on this game. You're going to breathe upon it and it's going to be coming up to the pops. And it's already in the pops. Yeah. So like when you pull it back, be like a little mouse baby and just kind of I'm going to go gerbble. Yeah. Like like the latest little gerbble flick. I did do it correctly once. So it is possible. Just once. I will tell you now though. You're going to step up to that be you going to be like that impossible. Elizabeth Lion and I'm like no I'm real. Watch me. Watch me. I can do I can do I will do I bet they didn't tell you that in the minitorial did they? Oh. So we want to do a Pinto Ballet uh a little shout out. Uh, we're sending a shout out to Pinto Ballet's dad. The Brazilian player. Wait, what? I don't actually understand. Pinto Ballet. The Brazilian player. The Brazilian player who is also Pinto Ballet. Oh, yeah. That is confusing. Shout out to Pinto Ballet's dad. Yeah, that's what we're really or or shout out to Pinto Ballet who is someone's dad. No, no, I think we did it right the first time. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Good. All right. Well done all around. Okay. May he get Brazilians of points. Yes, that is good. That is really good. Especially on a game like Jackpot. No way. Is a dad playing? I need some more details. We do need more details and I need to take a picture of that because that was really really funny. I know. I know. I know. I'm up. Go do a short plan. I just had to get the picture of the Mayhe get Brazilians of points. May I get Brazilians of them? I think Am I up? I am up. We're both up. Oh, no. No. Nikki is giving me signs. We discussed this beforehand. I'm just going to be eyeing her a little bit. You see, Nikki's best friend. Best friend material. The real one will tell you when you're up. She's after me in the lineup here. Okay. So, I warned Deborah about the short plunge. Let's see. She can follow my warnings. You warned her to do it or not to do it. My warning was it's so sensitive. Don't. It really is. Like I dare you to plunge it so it doesn't go past the gate. What makes this game really hard is that the entire room is tilting to the left at about 20°. So the ball is just going to keep rolling normally. That's true. That is how it works. Actually, that Brazilian's joke made me laugh out loud. Fuzzy cord. Yeah, Deborah took a picture of it. That's fantastic. Uh so I I know people want to see you two. All right, so the second she's done, I'm just going to get out of this chair. I mean, I have to go play. We are kind of We'll see how this works. Okay, so she's Okay, never mind. Deborah's really good at this. She's taking your advice. Honestly, it's so hard to get it. This is one of the most sensitive plungers that I have ever witnessed in my entire life. And I'm up. Go get him.
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    So, she's going to take it slow. There's no reason not to. I mean, take your time. You can take as many tries at it as you want.
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    And if you end up in the pops, which is exactly what happened to her, it's really dangerous, right? So, you not only lose the the skill shot you were going for, but now you're in the pops. So, we'll see what strategy she goes for. She may start working toward casino run. She may go for the visor. That's the way to do it. If you can hit that lit shot on the visor, it comes up right away. here. Halfway to lock in for multiball.
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    Ooh, no tilt warning on that. Nice. Ah, right out lane drain. That's a bummer. That was a good drain, though. It just It wanted that right out lane. There was absolutely no way you're going to disrupt that path.
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    So, David Mueller, our tallest competitor as far as I know, which means he is, I guess, uh, ready for a job at Stern based on what Elizabeth told us.
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    Thanks to all of you for tuning in today to the NKY Open. Glad to have you. We're going to be doing this all day long. This is a 10 round qualifying event followed by the finals. Oh, I got you. I think I figured something out. What'd you learn? I don't think Elizabeth and I are effective on the uh the the the stream anymore. You know why? Why? Because we make each other blush. Because we're just so happy to see each other. It's embarrassing. I think it's amazing. That's just good chemistry. We're just like
    141:10
    Well, you all know about as much about pinball as anybody in the world. So, it's awesome to have you both on the stream at the same time. We do try to. And as it turns out, when I don't know I'm up, someone else will let me know. Like, that's a superpower. Yeah, that's nice. Well, your game is right over there, which is super helpful. I don't know where she's playing. I don't know what she's playing. She's not playing. I don't know why she's playing. Well, I know why she's playing. I don't know how. If I can play like her, I would. One of these days when you grow up, you might Someday when I grow up, I look forward to it. All right. So, we've seen uh we've seen Michael, myself, David, and Summer. And we're back to Michael. Yep. Mr. Dawn. Mr. Angsty Dawn. Mike Dawn. You will see very few players who get as physically involved in the game as Mike Dawn does. You have to create a space around him to play. And he's really consistent about it. I actually waited to go up to my ball. There we go. Nice, nice, nice. He's just got a couple of lights left. Y um I had to wait before I went up to my ball because he was about to like like slam sad drain and when he did, he like jumped up and down and I could have had my feet under there. Yep. Yeah. He's a he's a full contact full body pinball player. She's playing on Pulp Fiction. Okay, cool. Wyvern, hello. Nice. Glad to have you. I'm glad that the flippers are strong on this game. All right, Mike, what you got? Yeah, you can get that left ramp all day. Ooh, ski jump. Why didn't I think of that little ski pass? I'm stealing that. Sometimes the most obvious solution is the hardest to remember in the moment. You know, those ski passes are so easy and you never think of them. Look at the focus on this man's face. All right. Oh, that is so jackpot. dirty. Look at Look at He's not even doing the thing. He's so stunned. I know. He's not even doing the thing. I mean, unbelievable. That is so rude. Oh my god. That is so rude. Just so you know, Mike Don, we're feeling your pain with you. We agree with you. That's ridiculous. And this is legit the first time that he was so like what? That he didn't do the Mike Don. Normally, he's got like a jumping ball. He didn't see that one coming, man. That was rough. Well, we don't call this straight down the middle for nothing. Were
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    you watching that replay? Just we're just tossing and turning. What? That Were you Did you see that replay we just replayed for Mike? Okay. Mike locked two balls in the saucers. Oh, no. Don't tell. They both shot down the middle. One hit the sling and went out. One went straight down. BS. Okay. So, we're going to be playing Actually, I've heard the saucer from the left is dangerous, too. Y, but maybe I misunderstood him. Maybe it's Maybe it's just the ice. Nothing is okay. Everything is dangerous. Was Deborah finally able to get the short punch? No, she got it up in the pops unfortunately, but she was able to recover trap right and then get the the lit arrow. Oh, and got the lit arrow. Impressive. So, she's in a good spot to do some locking on this one. Locking and rolling. Yep. Everyone out of the pool. Yeah. All right, let's see this if she can find the sweet spot. Almost got it. Okay, same exact plunge. Do it again. I mean, it was a good 45 seconds of this last time, but I say take your time. Take your time. Is it worth it? Cooling down the game. Letting the T. Maybe. I mean, maybe those coils will cool down for a second. Oh, that was almost so close. That's That's less close. It is funny. If you get a close one, you got to do a one. No, you got to have one that just goes nowhere. Yeah. Recalibrate. So, I will do one that goes nowhere and then I'll be mad about that and fire it straight up into the pops. Hey, she got it. Look at dead bounce into a catch. And now, yeah, it was really cool, Deborah. Really cool. Yeah, we we acknowledge your awesomeness. Yep. Okay, so she's calling her shot. She nailed it.
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    Hey, Phoebe. She just messaged me. Hello from Cincy. Well, hello from NKY. Independence, aptly named for this time of year. Phoebe, are you on Twitch as well? Say hi if you are. If not, why not? I'm sure you're doing something cool. I can't believe it's only Saturday. It feels like it should be Sunday afternoon. It does feel like a month has passed. But yeah, having that three-day weekend, big talk over. All right, let's see a forehand. Look at that other one. Forehand early. She could let it drain. Yeah, but she doesn't. She's like, "It's right here. That's the shot." So, even after that shot, no switches means no playfield validation. Could drain take drain it. Yeah. This is It's like Congo or Yep. You can do it all day. All right. Man, she's moving the game a little bit. Okay, that's it. That was That was it. That's all you get. But wait, there's no jackpot restart. I guess he's got that switched off. Wow. Brutal. Yeah. All right. We're I'm Deborah. I love you, but let's go for the Let's do casino run. Yeah, casino runs the way to go because even if you're starting multiball, you're not getting a chance to play multiball.
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    So, sometimes you can there's a restart your multiball, right? You can go back to the jackpot, get one of the eyes again, and restart, but not the way it's set up.
    146:32
    I can see my game through the stairs. Oh, she got one jackpot. Gotcha. Okay, she did. I I missed that. I missed that, too. Well, good on you getting that. I feel like Phoebe's texting me that she got one jackpot. You're You need to pay attention. Justin, watch the game. She's busy playing King Kong and Jaws is what Phoebe says. Oh, well, that's fair. I would never interrupt that. Yeah, they're pretty they're pretty good. That that looks like it. That looks like the Now do a way short plunge. Like a way short plunge. Yeah, there's way underdo it. And then overdo it into the pops. Oh. Oh, nice. Okay, dead bounce it over. Get it a little bit weird. Okay, we can do that. So, with this Okay. Okay. Start another multiball. Now, this will be three ball. Maybe maybe the extra ball will uh be the key. Unless all three fire down the middle, god forbid. Was that the first? I did think. I'm like, did she lock two balls? I don't remember her walking two balls. I was just reading the room. I was reading the energy and it the balls, right? Oh, you plunge. You plunge and then happens. Hey guys, I've been out of it for a bit. Okay, maybe this one will somehow plunge also down the middle. I don't know. Actually, at this point, would you be thinking about shoot plunging for the jackpot? Um, I would actually plunge up top at this point only so that I could handle the two that are about to kick out because they're giving you big trouble. But you can have a clear shot at a jackpot from here. So, you can go for the left under under the ramp. Yeah. But she says, "No, I'm going to shoot for the I'm just going to shoot two switches. I'm going to shoot two switches." You have to get two, not one. Yeah. To get the play field elevated. All right. I think you need three, dude. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, you can hit a pop. You're okay. That's awesome. All right. She's actually playing multiball. So, we're actually get to see a jackpot multiball here. There we go. Okay. So, she's got two. That's twice the amount that she got left. Okay. I think I'm up. I see Nikki being weird. Yep. You've got what? At least four jackpots lit. Oh, sorry everybody. At least four jackpots lit. Let's see. Now we're down to three. One, two, four.
    149:06
    All right. She picked up a couple. It looks like there's a ball stuck at the bottom. You see that? Am I reading that right? No. No. Okay. It wasn't stuck at the bottom. It was stuck up top. At least she takes the jackpot. Very nice. As she's walking out the door. Very nice. Yeah, why not? Very. Oh, ball. We're still on ball, too. Oh, wow. Is there a center post? I don't think there's a center post. There's no center post. Um, there was one at Cincinnati, but I guess he was like, "This game's too good. Way too easy. This game's too good for me to leave it." Nice. I have to ruin it for everybody.
    149:46
    All right. So, does she go for casino run now? Did she go for another? I mean, if if you go for another multiball, you might get the Mega Visor. Yeah, with enough jackpots. And she's had a bunch. So, she's also at a 4x bonus multiplier, which is kind of nice. What I would do here is I would just go ahead and shoot those left drops to go ahead and get your 5x. Yeah. Um I don't know how much she has in bonus. We'll see.
    150:15
    132. Nice. So, she has a commanding lead right now at 1.6 million, but it's only ball two. Yeah, third multiball is pretty tricky. I think that's why they make the mega visor so valuable because it's really hard to get to. Oh no. Oh no, that's it. That's it. Quick up and down. Still got another ball left. So, oh, Keystone, I didn't see it. Thank you for that sub via Prime. By the way, you guys can sub via Prime for free. You get one uh free sub a month if you haven't already used it. Uh you might consider it for us or one of the other great pinball channels uh that is streaming live pinball, competitive pinball. Oh, it just barely lifted over the uh 30 million award.
    151:07
    I know. I also enjoyed the tilted player cam. It was very dramatic. Yeah, it was like it sort of reminded me of like a like a like an early 2000s music video. Oh, yeah. That's good. That's good.
    151:20
    Although, when you're in a game whose like entire integrity depends on a flat surface, it does kind of give the wrong impression. Yeah. I mean, you could just play sideways.
    151:37
    Oh, I'm feeling so good right now. Um, I'm playing Eric on his own game of Doctor Who and I just put up the GC score on it. No, you GC it. Yeah. Nice. Just GC it. Nice. That does feel good. How many loops are we talking? Um, I think uh 38, I want to say. Wow, that's a lot of loops. Sure is. Well, he made that side ramp a lot easier um than it was like at Cincinnati. Oh, okay. Um Keystone, you'll have to tell me who you are. IRL so that I can tell you that it's a pleasure to work with you, too. But thank you. Let's see. Oh. Oh, no. Oh, he had his skill shot ready for his locks, too. Yeah, these tilts are tight. It's easy to do. I get it. Oh. Uh, Angie was saying earlier outside that she was like she's like, "I tilted for the first time ever." Oh, really? And then they asked her, they were like, "What game?" She said, "Jackpot." Yeah. I mean, if you're going to tilt, this is the basement to do it cuz everything is set really tight. Jackpot is set extra tight. I think the only one that really has any give is that I've played so far as Stars. Stars. Stars has a little give. Odds and evens also a little bit of give. Yeah, but odds and evens is an immediate tilt out end game. So, let's hope. Oh, Chris F, what's up, man? What are your initials? I love it. Uh, gas. Gas. No, G. Always with the Kangle hat. Very cool. I don't think I've ever owned I have always been a baseball cap guy and uh I don't think I've ever owned a Kangle, but they must be incredibly comfortable because I know people who wear them all the time.
    153:19
    Yeah, that saucer is nasty. I actually think it's one of the reasons why we're not seeing people go for Casino Run is because it doesn't do any good if you do everything right and then lose it right down the middle. Yeah, I don't I don't like Casino Run on this one. No. Um that's usually my strategy. I normally play Casino Run before I even play in multiball. Well, another thing about this one is that the feed from the eye saucers is so good. Oh my gosh, it was We just saw Mike Dawn get double drained on that. Really? Yep. Oh wow. No, I agree. It was. Maybe it even was yesterday, but today not so much. Oh, wow. All right. All right. She's going to trap left again. She's She's in a good spot. She's got a good lead. Yeah. Did I get GC? Yeah. Yeah. 1.6. DC. Nice score. I think over a bill. Oh, okay. Yeah.
    154:13
    She is going to go for that third multiball. Which means you have to clear the visor a couple of times. Really? Oh, wow. Gets a hurry up left ramp. Is that a left ramp? Hurry up. No. Hit me. Hurry up. Uh, yeah. That's the far right target. That's the far right target. That's is Isn't that sort of like uh in taxi that would have been sort of the jackpot shot over there? Yeah, it's uh it's definitely not worth going for or pinbot. It's definitely not worth going for. Um
    154:47
    she already got her slot machine. What do you know uh what award she got from the slot machine? No, I didn't see Well, I mean she did get the hurry up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, that was I presume the the award from the slot machine. Um, she also now has her game saucer lit if she wants to go up there, but she hasn't really been playing the game saucer as much. Um, save for the slot. I think I usually try to save uh Kino for last. Kino and roll. I I use uh I do the playing cards one first. Okay. And then I do uh roll the dice and then Kino. The playing cards one is like the poker game or whatever that you're playing. Yeah. Um which that's a really good one to use the ch button on. Um, it's really only worth a lot if you use the cheat button. The cheat button also spots you a bomb in Casino Run, right? Yeah. Um, but the way this one's set up is it's every fourth time you try to use the cheat. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. So, like the first three times you try to use it, it won't do anything. So, you have to intentionally use it three times. Yep. Knowing it's not going to do anything. Yeah. Pretty. I think so. If you're going to use it to clear the bomb, do you use it after the bomb hits or do you use it right as you start the mode? Um, you use it after the bomb hits. Okay. It's like whenever you whenever you see the bomb on your screen, that's when you use it. You hit it. Okay. Um, but you can also get a a cleanse bomb from one of the wards on the wheel, too. Oh, okay. And if you get that, it's like, uhoh. It's like you're getting at least a billion in a in a casino run. All right. Half decent bonus puts her at 2.1. Really respectable finish. 2.1 billion on jackpot is nothing to sneeze at. Yeah, David Mueller had a really quick up and down last last ball. So hopefully can do a little bit more of this ball. Gets a rattler in the left in lane. Managed to keep it in. What's up? Miranda picks up a Kino card and has an open visor ready for lock in. That was almost a lock but fell just a little short. All right. Um, the other one's going to kick out. It is a pretty safe feed though. Oh, he thinks he's coming to a shooter lane. No. No. Oh, no. I saw that. Really? Was he going for the shooter lane? Yeah, he thought it was going to kick out to the shooter lane. Ah, bummer. Either way, it's a tough feed and uh got a little bit flippy flappy with it. Yeah,
    157:15
    that's that's one of those situations where you have to be aware of what the other players are doing before you. Um,
    157:25
    yeah, that's true. I guess if you're watching and you're like, "All right, two then the then the shooter lane." Yeah. Yeah, that would have started a multiball on Pinbot did not start a multiball here. Nope. All right, that's going to end our game of Jackbot. And uh Deborah Tolman with a runaway victory for seven points to put her at 22. Next is going to be Mike Dawn at 398. Then Summer at 311 and David at 287. So jackpot was a big win for Deborah. It was worth the time to figure out how to get that plunge right so that she could get that multiball queued up safely. Yep. And then uh made some hay with those two multiballs. That's where the bulk of the points came from. I like how I like how if you play this game perfectly, you can just loot multiballs. Yeah. It's so It's so fun. If you get into that, it's so nice. Yeah. Not not even the restart. Um just like the like the getting hoping that you get the ball safe on the flipper after a multiball and then just do it again and then you have to hit a switch after that and then you have to hit the skill shot and that opens your visor. Yeah. So you've got that roving arrow on the skill shot. But does it if you're on your third multiball you have to do that twice. The skill shot? Yeah. No, it opens it on the first one. Yeah. And you're you're good for lock every one after the first one. It opens it on the skill shot. Okay. Well, that's cool. So worth getting that skill shot figured out. Oh yeah, get that short skill shot figured out. That's probably one of the best skill shots in all of cuz it is it gives you free multiball pretty much. Um and it's worth some pretty pretty all right points, too. Bone Busters is similar. The skill shot you can lock, too. The difference is you can steal locks on Bone Buster, so you might just be queuing your neighbor up for a really great ball. Uh let's see where maybe it's Deborah who's going to take us somewhere new. Let's see. A whole new world, new horizons to pursue. Let's see where we're going.
    159:26
    Friends, it's a good time while she's moving to remind you that uh we are sponsored by Cincinnati, which is our big pinball convention, also an Eric Wartenberger production. Um, and Cincinnati is when all of the pinball collectors around Cincinnati bring our collections together in one spot, uh, the first weekend of December, so that you can come play them. We have uh, big tournaments running all weekend starting on Thursday, maybe even Wednesday this year, and going all the way through Sunday. Uh, there's like six different tournaments we play over the course of the weekend, including the big mega the big matchplay tournament we play every year. Um, and then we also will have the the show open so that you can come if you're in the area and play, you know, hundred different pinball machines from private collections all over Cincinnati as well as those that are uh loaned to us by places like Tilt that bring a whole bunch of new machines, things that sometimes aren't even out yet. And you can play ultra rare machines that you've probably never played before. Yeah, there is a Wednesday tournament this year. Awesome. Okay. So, BFR pinball corrected me. On the third multiball, you can get the you can get the first lock off the skill shot, but not the second one. Oh, you have to do that one. Yeah, you have to actually open the visor for the second lock. That makes sense to me. I mean, it otherwise you could just multiball out all day forever and ever. All right, so let's see who's playing Pulp Fiction with us. All right. And even if you are not in the area, but uh just want to tune in, Cincinnati will be streamed. I am lucky enough to get to lead the streaming for that as well. And we have an awesome team of streamers who come from all over the place to do that.
    161:06
    I also lose my voice every year because I just do so much commentating every year. Can't stop. I love it. I like I mean it's the best seat in the house. You get to watch amazing pinball with great competitors and you get to talk about pinball all day which is great. And you get to stay up past your bedtime. And I get to stay up past my bedtime. Uh yeah. So, Miranda, I'm doing I'm doing pretty good right now. Um, I'm on the A the A finals cut off right now. Um, which means I'm doing pretty good.
    161:36
    Yeah. So, I have I have my friends in the chat. So, Oh, that's nice. That That's uh Froch's fart 98. Some of Some of those screen names just make my day. And that one's in there.
    161:52
    All right. So, we've got uh Ken, Matt, Elizabeth, Gizki, and Nikki. Oh, and we are on ball three, player three. No, player four. That was Nikki. So, I I kind of want to say she should have trusted that center post, but at the same time, it didn't look like it was going anywhere. Yeah. Also, there's no rubber on that post. So, that one went to Elizabeth. Yeah, there is no rubber, and I don't trust that post ever for any reason. No. Um, Elizabeth got that one by a sound margin. She did great. Uh, over a million points, which is a lot in Pulp Fiction, especially on this one, too. This one's set up really tough. Um, I'm surprised he even has the outlane posts at all. Yeah, like I'm surprised he didn't remove them for sure. Tilt's tight and he's got the outline post in hard position and he's got the rubber off the center post. So, he is not kidding around. So Ken uh picks up five points for second place. Nikki, it looks like got third by uh just a slim margin for three points. And Maddie Ice Goslin in fourth for one point. And this is round six, which means we're about to take a half an hour break. But friends, don't go anywhere. Uh because half an hour is going to fly by while we all get some food in us and stretch our legs. And then we are going to move into rounds 7 through 10 and then right into our finals. 16 people are going to make it into the A division. 16 people are going to make it into the B division. And then everybody else has the opportunity to join the unsanctioned third tournament that happens that has seems to have no rules or organization that I can understand. Uh but it's always played in it. Uh must be nice. You always make A or B, I guess. Oh yeah, I have certainly played in it because I'm not quite as good. Yeah, I made I made B my first year and then last year I made A hoping I could and then played pretty well. Yeah, wouldn't you say? I'd say. I'd say so. Let me take a look at the standings where we are right at this moment and the matches or it will just freeze and be weird. Yeah.
    164:08
    and Steven starts at 300. I think I think we got there. Uh, so you can see our leaders at this point. We have Trent Augustinine out alone in first place at 38. We've got Eric Orenberger and Justin Schnetzer tied for second. Wouldn't you like to know who's third? I would too, but you know, can't see it. So, hold on. There we go. Uh, then you've got uh Sydney Whamsley is right now in fourth. Elizabeth Gizky, who we just saw in fifth. you Junior also tied for fifth along with Carlos de Lasera laseros um and Nikki Miller who's having an awesome day today. Ken Gunther, Matt Goslin, Robert Cecil, Alex Scarboro, Logan Foley, Roy Richie, Chris Whamsley uh rounding up our top 12, but that puts us at a cuto off for 16. Now, right now that's not so important. We still have four more rounds. So, it's not a huge deal. So friends, we are going to come back. That is going to wrap up our round six. Um we are going to come back at 3:30, which is half an hour from now and we're going to start round seven. So stay tuned. Don't go anywhere. Um I am maybe just going to leave up Pulp Fiction for a little bit and you are free to watch, but I'm going to leave up a note that says we're going to start at 7 o'clock. So stay tuned. Yeah.
    165:37
    [Music] Quiet. You know what they call a quarter pound of a cheese.
    166:08
    [Applause] right. Roll cameas. I want to win. I want that trophy. That's good. All right. Take it away.
    166:55
    All right. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay back here. This chair's kind of really comfortable. And uh yeah, [Music] watch some uh watch some people if you guys
    167:13
    can go spinners. Yeah, he's got the twist turn mode. Top bumpers. A lot of points here. um is pretty dangerous, but you know that's uh that's Pulp Fiction. It's going to be dangerous.
    167:36
    He's got his uh to collect on the right saucer. It is a hurry up. Um I believe it is 50% of your score in the mode.
    168:00
    trying to go for his pawn shop blocks right now. There we go. He has his locks ready. He's hitting that saucer in the middle three times. Hits the right saucer. Starts another mode. he Oh, no. No. He uh collects his character. Three characters. All right. Um there's a standup target right behind the pop bumpers on the left side that will lock in those characters for the rest of the game for him. Um but he is on ball three so that won't really matter. Um two more characters and he has cast Chaos Multiball on the right saucer. That is one of the uh multiple wizard mugs in this hand. It is worth a lot of points and it is some people's strategies like myself. Um
    168:53
    he's trying to go for the pawn shop locks. Gets it. I think that's his first lock.
    169:12
    All right. So, he's got Cas Chaos lit on the right saucer. He can if he can hit that shot. It's a very tough shot if he can hit it. Oh, it tries to go for the backhand. Uh the backhand's not really there on this version of the game. Um nice drop catch.
    169:30
    Nice dig. All right, you just need to hit that right. You hit that saucer and you got your got your multiball and you got your Oh, excuse me. I'm going to go home now. Oh, I really wanted to see that, too. Oh, no.
    169:49
    All right. Who's going to be the next bat? Guess we'll find out.
    169:56
    Of course, you are a character. Doesn't mean that you have character.
    170:14
    Maybe a little bit until we get our next game. Um, I know a lot of people are going to We have uh we have Chipotle upstairs by Eric himself. Um,
    170:30
    And I believe that's what a lot of people are going to eat upstairs right now. Um, and of course we have a lot of a lot of players practicing for the next four rounds of qualifying. Um, and then after those four rounds of qualifying, we'll split into our A and B finals. Um, we'll also see if we have any tiebreers, which will be interesting to see. Um he said, Eric said himself that it would either be a game of stars big game or I believe cheetah um that they would be playing full games of um in order to just to decide who's going to make it into those final cut offs.
    171:18
    I'm watching. Look, that's the Funf funers trophy. What? It's a koozie. What? I didn't know it was a koozie.
    171:38
    I think there there's another one, too. And it's slightly bigger in brown. Yeah. Yeah.
    172:10
    Hits that skill shot on the right saucer. This is scene of it. Goes for it. Uh, is this one also going to be twist and turn? So pretty. No, it's going to be clean the car. All right. So, this one you want to shoot the outer orbits um which which have your spinners on them. Uh basically, this mode is basically super spinners. Um it's worth a lot of points. Uh it's also it's also a really nice sounding mode. Sounds really nice. Um it's also I' I'd probably say it's probably the safest mode. Um, points wise, like the gaining the points in this mode is a little easier than the other modes.
    173:02
    I'm losing people. Yeah. See, he just he just picked up a ton of points off that mode. Oh, and then the magnet throws into the alley. That's unfortunate.
    173:20
    Oh, whoa. I swear I swear that he hit that skill shot. Um, yeah. Yeah, that was a very nice dig.
    173:44
    He's trying to back in the the Mozart saucer, but it's not there on this one. He's He's got that right saucer dialed in. I want you to go in that bag and find my wallet. The one that said bad [ __ ]
    174:10
    Figure out which one which mode this is. But this one is hit the targets. Um, can be worth some points, but it's also really dangerous. Um,
    174:25
    okay, so he's collected one of his five characters. I'm losing normally both your asses with you as [ __ ] [ __ ]
    175:02
    And he just dialed in on that saucer. Um, does anybody in does anybody in chat know if there's a wizard mode on that saucer? Cuz low key I kind of never go for the modes. So, I don't know. Um,
    175:16
    cuz he's he's getting pretty close to it cuz I believe there is four modes. Yeah, there is four modes on that right saucer.
    175:28
    Oh, he he tried to chest the dead bounce, but the dead bounce did not work out for him. Here we go.
    175:47
    [Music] Quiet cameras and watches from the great grandfather during the first world war.
    176:26
    [Music] He's going Is he going for briefcase now? Has he given up on the modes? No. I want to I want to find out if there's a wizard mode. You better [ __ ] do it and do it quick.
    176:48
    Perfect. You could have Mr. Wolf. I'm losing life, people. Oh, he was in a boat. Oh, okay. I I I could not tell. I think he's just going to time this out. Um yeah, roll scenes the wizard. That's right. I think insert at the bottom bottom. Yeah. Yeah. So he's got roll scene lit. Um Oh, it almost flew in there for him. The the magnet almost hit. Oh, I want to I want to find out if there's a wizard mode or not. I'd assume so. Right. It hits the drop turret.
    177:35
    Oh, no. There's still one more mode for play. Okay. interrupt. He got it. Oh. Oh, this is the wizard mode. This is roll scene. Oh my gosh, he did it. I' I've I don't think I've ever seen this wizard mode, so it's going to be cool.
    178:51
    It looks like you just want to shoot the red sauce. Is that Is that all you do? Or it looks like Hurry up, man. Hurry up. It looks like it. Or it might be the first stage of it cuz I know like every single multiball in this game has different stages to it. Um.
    179:14
    Oh, wow. I've never seen this. It doesn't really seem to be worth that many points.
    179:28
    Maybe you have to get to one of the later stages to start getting some points. Dude just casually playing a Wizzy during the lunch break. Yeah, he's playing roll scene right now. Um, we did have a player right before this who had cast Chaos Lit, but he couldn't collect it unfortunately. I really wanted to see that cuz that's the only wizard mode I know on this game. So, I could have I could have actually commentated for that.
    180:29
    Roll camera. I want to win. I want that turkey. That's good.
    180:47
    Just in turn. He's got both of his uh he's got briefcase and punch stop blocks. Both of it. Um, I don't believe you could start a mode.
    181:03
    I don't believe you get multiball while you're in the mode. I don't Maybe you can, but honestly, the timers on the modes are not that long. So, uh, I don't really I mean, maybe the target mode would probably be the best for multiball, but besides that, the multiballs are kind of not it. I mean, uh, well, twist and turn would be pretty good, too. Let's see. Where are we going? What game are we going to? Are we going to King Kong? Hey, Greg. I don't put the rig on your game. Oh, no. We're going to Stars. All right.
    182:02
    All right, let's see what can happen here. See how many house balls happen.
    182:48
    All right, we have a we have a batter up to play. See?
    183:08
    Let's see what what's what strate is he going to go for it. Is he going to go spin roll dude? Oh.
    183:41
    Um, well, usually Okay, so the break message thing. Um, well, you know, uh, I don't I mean, you know,
    183:59
    No, no, no. This isn't a real game. Um, no. I'm just Well, usually usually there's not a commentator during this time, but uh this chair is really comfy. And yeah, I'm just over here cuz why not? Um,
    184:32
    Long days need good chairs. Yep, that's something that I will stand by. Um, start keeping the ball as far away from the flippers, so I'm going have to train it by strat. I have to play it. I try to avoid it whenever possible. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a good strategy. It's what I try to do, too. Um, I've started trying to do my bon the bonus strat. Um, where you literally just try to get triple bonus off the rip and then just um just shines all day. That's what I do now. Um, [ __ ] works sometimes, but a lot of times really dangerous, but also everything else in the game is so dangerous that it's like whatever.
    185:33
    Let's see. We do have a spinner rib thing. All right. Yeah, that feed coming out of the left and right is really hard to read because if it hits that if it's the top of this thing, it's just going somewhere in the middle. Um, don't worry, that's coming back. It should. Yep.
    186:10
    Nice. I don't think I've ever actually hit that spinner before cuz I never shoot at it.
    186:18
    Which the way to light that spinner is both of your drop target banks. If you hit the the red middle target, um then that will light 500 and then another 500 if you hit the other bank.
    186:35
    But also the spinner is not as ripable as the right one though. Oh, it's just weird. It's just weird. I try to avoid that spinner. Yeah, they filled validation.
    187:04
    that gap that gap in the middle makes it so hard to know where the ball's going on your flippers.
    187:20
    sling sound now. Um, I believe he hit the red target on the right bank, which means his left spinner is lit now.
    187:40
    All right, now this is double it. Oh no, we reset the left bank, but he does have double bonus. It's about 20,000 for him. windows.
    188:03
    Oh, okay. Good. Good recovery. always in the same situation. Let's see. Oh, yeah.
    189:33
    Yeah. Pinball. Pinball. Pinball. Pinball. Pinball. right. Hope hopefully the top half of the game should be a lot more visible now.
    191:19
    I hear a pop bumper going crazy. I think that was on Doctor Who because those pop bumpers are super lively.
    191:44
    hits one of his star targets. There's three. All right. He just needs that that right yellow target in order to have a special lit.
    192:12
    Oh. Oh, no. Oh, it always it always goes between the flipper and the post. Always. Uh, Stars is such a lovehate game. It is very mean. It is very forgiving and everything in between.
    193:37
    I don't know. This This one does have a very forgiving tilt. Um, you can definitely get some good saves off on this game. I feel like that's the fun nature of Star Wars 2 is just all these crazy saves you can do. Oh, it's crazy. Um, it's just like Meteor, which both both of them are receive card games. So, I feel like I feel like Meteor's saves and stuff though are like crazier. Like Meteor has Meteor has some crazy saves.
    194:30
    Glad you guys are all staying through this. I know it's um well, we're seeing some pinball action, but you know, it's not not the tournament currently, so you know
    195:11
    Don't let anybody. [Applause] All right, got some more stars action coming up.
    195:35
    Boom. The full punch. Wow. Hit the rollover target up top with the rollover switch.
    195:45
    Nice. Clear his drops. Nice. He's got his left spinner double lit. Oh no.
    196:11
    Let's see. Are all five balls going to be right also? Tune in next time on Right Now.
    196:23
    No, that one was left out. Let's see. Is this next one going to be left out? And then a center drain. Even it up.
    196:55
    Oh no. Should have trusted the post. That post would have saved him.
    197:07
    I know this this star is so evil. That's why I said to five balls. It is such an evil game.
    197:35
    right, we're almost done before our break. Only four more minutes to go, people. Then we will continue our last four rounds of the match play qualifying. Yeah, I'm still sitting down. Uh we are we're restarting the tournament at uh 3:30 Eastern Standard Time. Um so in about 4 minutes, we're going to be we're going to start up the next four rounds of qualifying. And then after those four rounds, we're going to do top 16, make it to a finals. I want to assume you don't know how to work it, but um 17 through 32 are going to be in the B finals and then everybody else um if you choose so they can play in our little fun fudgers tournament um which has a uh the grand prize is a uh yeah you're in business a koozie in the shape of a willy um I think there's two of them two koozies in the shape in the shape of a willy a willy Um
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    yeah. Um Thank you everybody for staying here. Um, I see you're all coming back cuz we're about to about to start these start these games back up. Um, I've played these games before.
    200:02
    All right, two more do those manuntos left people. So we get some more fabulous pinball gameplay. Um got some 90 viewers now. Yeah.
    200:30
    Oh, did you already post the next round? Yeah. All right.
    200:39
    Oh, I'm on stars. The first one All right, everybody. Next round's up. All right, Miranda, if you want to watch, I'm about to I'm about to be in this next round. It's not going to be pretty cuz this is a very mean game depending on the game we are looking at right now. Um, but I will see you guys in a moment. Probably after I finish my game. It's uh I don't know. It might go fast, might go slow. You never know. You never know, people.
    201:40
    Or well or well I'm going to stay here cuz I mean the game's literally right there. I can see it and I'm player four. Uh there should be a stars call out from Nemesis in Resident Evil 3. Um what what do you mean? Uh like
    202:08
    Like like are you saying that there should be a call in stars where Nemesis says something about stars?
    202:25
    I I get I get the reference, but I don't know exactly what you're saying.
    202:32
    Look, we're already all queued up on round seven. Yeah. This is awesome. We're going to be watching my game. We're watching you along with Nikki Miller, Sydney, and Trent. Cool. Yeah. All right, friends. Let's get underway with our final three rounds of qualifying here at the Northern Kentucky Open 2025. I guess while we're waiting, we can take a look at our standings.
    203:05
    So, you can see uh Trent is out in front right now. Eric and Justin are tied for second place. Sydney's all by herself in fourth place. And then Elizabeth Yu, Chris Dit Jr., Carlos De Lasera, and Nikki Miller in fifth place. Yep. So, we still have rounds seven, eight, nine, and 10. We have four more rounds left for qualifying. Okay. So, BFR, are you saying that um that Nemesis should have a call in this game or like I I know that um I know that stars is a thing in uh Resident Evil. Um,
    203:53
    oh, I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I'm just This is a video video game nerdy stuff. I see. Good drop catch. So, Resident Evil has a group called Stars, which are kind of pretty much the good guys and Nemesis is bad. Nemesis is a bad guy. Nemesis is programmed to take out stars. I see. I see. Okay. Is Trent Augenstein programmed to take out stars? Uh, probably. He might be. He's pretty good. So, he used that center post to great effect to get the ball back up on the left flipper. This game is infamous for uh house balls. Evil. For just being pure evil. Evil. Should be a soundboard button for that call out. For which call out? Evil. That one. No, no, no. Um, whenever Nemesis says stars like uh what BFR is talking about, Nemesis says stars. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, I don't have a call out for that. Sadly. Sadly. So, stars is a little weird in terms of the uh backboard layout. The back glass is divided first, second, third, and then inexplicably fourth is down here. Yeah. So just bear that in mind as you look for scores.
    205:17
    She's a ball and a flipper. Fuzzy cord. We are playing this as a fiveball game, I believe, right? Yeah, it is. He always does. Yeah. If it wasn't a fiveball game, it would be over in like less than two minutes. Yeah.
    205:32
    And Stars also has mechanical chimes, right? Uh yeah. Do I remember that correctly? Yeah, I love solid states with mechanical chimes. The first one I ever played was a Mahari Mahari that arcade legacy had and I was so delighted when I started it up and it was like, you know, I forget that Mahari has an EM and a solid state version. Yeah. Yeah. There was a handful during the transition there that did that. I know. Um, uh, Hot Tip's the same way. Um, hot tip has a solid state in it either version. I didn't know that there's a solid state hot tip. Yeah, I didn't know that. That's cool. It's really weird because the the scoring is like a light blue. It's sort of like uh Incredible Hulk. Okay. Where the the solid state scoring is like light blue. Yeah, it's that that era. That's fun. All right, I'm going to go play my ball. All right, good luck. [Music]
    206:29
    So, Junior stepping up against right now a 33,000 as the leader on ball one. Trent had a decent start. But again, Stars is a five ball for a reason. We don't expect everybody to have an amazing ball every time. There's going to be there's going to be some house balls. What's that? Yeah, you can have a real rough one. Sydney said, "Yeah, you can have a real rough one. I think that's just fine." That's why we give you five. Yeah, especially on this game. Yep.
    207:01
    So, I don't know if he ran the tutorial or not. You guys have to let me know. I'm coming in from outside. Uh, you did not. Okay. So, essentially, you've got stars all over the playfield. And these stars, if you can light them up, will make this spinner worth a lot. Yep. You can also go knock down these drop targets to build up your bonus multiplier. Bonus ladder is right here. And you can also light the spinner for big points there. Yep. Uh what do you do to do double scoring? There's a Do you have to hit the target there for double? Uh is all five. Is it all five for double? Uh that's Yeah. I don't know. I know there's a way to increase the double down here. I don't know if it's Well, you've got a double bonus and a triple bonus. Yeah. Oh my god. There's center. The double bonus is here. Gotcha. Okay. I was thinking is there like a double scoring mode? I don't know. I think I think you can light special on the uh on the stars. Gotcha. I don't know if you can do a double scoring.
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    You can also see this is a good one. When they're lit, you can get the bonus advance. Three bonus advances. Oh, nice try. You almost had that. Um, three bonus advances just by rolling over the lit in lane. Uh, double scores clear first set of drops. Triple bonus clear both sets of drops. Okay, so that's for for double bonus. Casual Lazar. Yep. you'll see most people going for that right off the bat. I don't see a ton of people playing the right spinner. Um, and it does get valuable, right, every time that you add those stars. Add those stars. Yeah, you always start with one star already completed, right? But it's random. Little sling hockey. She is back in business. Nice.
    208:48
    Oh, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. Sometimes you want to just sort of let that dead bounce over the other flipper, but that one's right at the tip. Spinner. Oh, didn't know whether to hit that or let it center. Yeah, it went just left to center. Even with the rubber on that post, that's a real gamble. You're going to see the center post used a lot in this game. It just comes into play a lot. It's a big old flipper gap there. Every once in a while you'll see somebody will trap on one side, let it bounce off the spinner, nudge it to the other side, and then shoot for let it bounce off the center post. I've seen that with like comment stuff like that. Yep. And then shoot the spinner.
    209:29
    I think I was once you light that spinner, it can be quite valuable. So again, you'll see people once it's lit start to get over to the right flipper. I don't think the post pass is real accessible on this game. Not that I'm aware of. Yeah, I'm usually dead before I get to really do much on this game, unfortunately. Before it comes up, right? Thanks everybody for hanging in uh through that half an hour break. Always grateful to have you. Yep. But it seemed like Junior was here through the whole half an hour break. Maybe he was like answering questions the whole time. Uh it could be. I thought we just put normally like a feedback in 30 or something. Yep. Maybe just chilling here answering. Yep. Talking. He might have been. Junior's a great player and he gets better every year. Yeah, good nudge. Okay, good nudging
    210:21
    it. Oh, didn't quite make the gap. He tried for it, didn't quite make the gap.
    210:33
    So, that puts him in at 18,000. Moving into ball three. But remember, it is a five ball game. And we thank Eric for that. Yeah, that was a good move. It really does play more like an EM. Yes. Oh, he chilled and commented on Piction Stars. Great. Okay, that's awesome. Well, dude knows his pinball. He does. Glad to have him for that. Trent had a I I assume a disappointing ball there on ball three. Yeah. No, hit a couple things. Yep. Then out.
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    You can see our King Kong players in the background there trying their best not to tilt. Yeah, you can barely sneeze on that thing without ty taps. Y y this is stars not stars the cable movie channel which may be playing tilt now she's in control if you tune in at the right time. Oh man that gets one of these from us. Yeah. Yeah. Say get a house ball here. House ball.
    211:38
    Oh, Ste got to roll scene on P. Nice. Missed that one. Yeah. I would have liked to have seen that. This is my one chance to get up and stretch my legs, so I didn't come watch pinball, but Yeah, dude. Yep. Didn't want to miss any of the tournament action.
    212:00
    Little sling hockey. Settles down. Oh, almost settled down on the left. didn't quite settle down and lost it.
    212:11
    So, even with a tough ball three right now, Trent still has a lead at 69. That's more than double the next score. Of course, Junior could change all that. Oh. Oh my god. That's what I get for saying something. Yeah. Was that a house ball? I don't know whether to call that a house ball. He technically did touch it, but barely. It's like on the tip and it it's center. Could you have saved it maybe without tilting? That's been hard, but it kind of just died on that center post, which is
    212:40
    Trent picks up a star on the right, goes for the left star. Can't get it.
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    [Music] We'll sling Chaos. Oh, good save. All right, we've got two stars lit. Trap it up here. See what you go for next. Going for drops. There we go. He gets double bonus by completing one set of drops. Good night. Oh, look at that. Right down the middle. All right. Well, he did get that double bonus just in time. That's cool.
    213:17
    Boy, this game is moving fast, isn't it? Uh, stars will do that, too. It'll do that. Yeah. I don't know. I've seen a couple people blow it up already, so it can be done. You can see all four of these players have had a pretty good day so far. Trent's way out ahead at 38, but everybody's doing pretty well. And the longer we play, the tighter those scores are going to get. Mhm. Because of the uh Swiss tiered system. Oh. Oh, man. Hard to get that back under control.
    213:49
    I mean, I probably would have done the exact same thing. Like, I would have expected that to make the left liver and it didn't. Maybe. I don't I'm on odds and evens here. And I don't know if I think Carlos is up now. Oh, okay. So, I'm last. You may have some time. Yeah. Well, I hopefully not. Hopefully, it goes super quick. I think maybe Sydney's trying for a post pass there. You're not going to find it on this game. No, probably not. Unless you roll it out to the end of the flipper and then it gets weird.
    214:24
    She has three stars lit. a good spinner rep right here. But the other two, at least one of them is up there.
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    And then she has one on the far right of the midplay field. Oh. Oh, rattler and out.
    214:44
    Well, that's enough bonus there to kick her in the first or second. Yep. Ball four. Player four. Junior's at 21 and climbing.
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    picks up a quick ad bonus. Has one star already completed. Going for those drop targets on the left. One more will get him a double bonus. And no dice. No dice.
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    Well, I'm gonna go move because I think I'm almost up. All right, go get him.
    215:29
    Phoebe says, "I just hate this game." I think a lot of people feel that way.
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    The pop from this angle looks like Spongebob. Say more. Say more about that. It is sort of yellow like Spongebob. I'll give you that. Hear me? Yes. Oh, now there there I am. There I am. Hello, Deborah. Hi. Hi. Hi. I should have taken these gloves off. They're like tight. Now, do you do you know this player, Trent Augenstein? Are you familiar with him? Look at what you did. That was commentator's curse right there. You're like, you know, nobody's there. Nobody's there. You don't know nobody, right? Yeah, I know him. He's pretty cute. Yeah. Was that his last ball? Yeah, that was five. But he's he's in the lead with 93. So, this one I saw this game earlier. It was like in the 300s. Yep. And it looks like on this one, I've been watching the stream and I've seen nobody's getting any love. Nobody's getting anything. All right, Nikki. Although Trent did have some super sweet saves earlier. I guess he's pretty good. He did. He started off right off the bat with a really cool move on the center post. Oh, did you see that move? She's putting moves on it. See, that's another one. Dead flip might have done the the job there, right? But you just you feel like with stars you have so few opportunities that you have to flip at it. I watched Trent do a couple dead flips and I was like, but it worked. I was like, "Oh, I should do that more often, but I'm scared to on stars because I have my one chance to flip. I should maybe take it." You're right. It feels that way. It's like, "Oh my god, I have the ball. Whoa. What the hell? Whoa. Not a house pop. Whoa. Gregory, the skirt is the pants and the star is the tie. What? He said that the pop kind of looks like Spongebob. And now that you're saying it, yeah, I kind of get it. Oh, the skirt is the pants and the star is the tie. Oh, she Oh, that was a jiggle out. That was a jiggle out. You know better, Wamsley. Gregory was among those representing us in Europe. Yeah, we had a bunch of people from Ohio. I was there. I was was there. I represented us in a side tournament in Vienna. I got I picked up a fourth place. Okay, nice. But I was not uh I was not qualified for the actual states. This gentleman here, Christopher Dwit, I don't get to see him play. That was beautiful. Great use of the center post. Oh yes. Clip it. Clip it. More clipping that. Watch this use of the center post on the left. Here he goes. Oh, and he jiggled it. Right into it. Yep. No. That was a skilled center post jiggle save. Oh, that's maybe one of the coolest things I've seen all day today. I'm adding that to my Oh, now language compendium. Got a list, too. Compendium. Nice. Um, so Gregory, Galvin, Deborah, all those who uh Trent and went and won us a world championship this week. Last week, that's pretty exciting. In the Epstein Cup. Nice. Oh, can he get it again? Not quite. Not quite. That was actually very cool, though. That was well played. That was a good run. It's not going to be enough to get it. Trent held on to the lead. Trent keeps the lead at 93,000. And if you're asking, no, I don't know that guy. Trent. Trent who? Who? Trent Woods. Never heard of him. Trent how? Um, compendium. Mine was be I was calling it a list, but now I have to make sure that it's called a compendium. What? Like the the the the compendium. The compendium is now a compendium. My compendium hurts actually. Ask a doctor about that. I just laughed like a hyena. That's what happens when you have allergies for six months straight, everybody. I know. That's the Ohio Valley right there. Oh, they cleared up while I was in Austria. It was amazing. For like 5 days it was like awesome. And then Well, it took like it's Yeah, it took like four or five days. Yeah. And all of a sudden one day I was like, "Dad, Trent, do you hear it? Can you hear my voice? I can breathe." He's like, "Yeah, yeah, you sound a little a little different." And then I couldn't stop talking about it because I could talk again. So, it's a little rough now, but I'm going to squeak out more commentating hopefully. Clip it. Clip it. Clip it. Oh, we're I know this is just like a like a rage game. Yeah, but whatever. Look at this. Bringing that back from the depths, man. I love that. That was gorgeous. That was unfathomable. That's a pinball joke. That's a good one. Unfathomable. Hello everybody, by the way. Hi Phoebe. Hello Phoebe. Phoebe used the term Trentar. Does Trent like the the name Trentar? Yes. Okay. Yes. And in fact, because I think it's great. We have a heads up that the Cincinnati theme might might be related to a a thing. Are you kidding? That'd be so cool. Could be. It could be. I get to wear like creepy spikes or whatever, like the guy on the motorcycle. Thick boots. Wear the thick boots with the spikes and the fur. He's like a pigman. Uh, we did see the spinner lit on that one, which is a nice time to go for the spinner. Unfortunately, wasn't able to take advantage of it. She's being like, "Oh, that's cool. That's cool." Is it hung up on the button? Of course, it is. That's amazing. Fantastic. Teal. Oh, I was upset. I wanted it to not be a tilt because I wanted to see that players could totally be pushing it way more for the next rounds. Stars is about as generous of a tilt as we have at this tournament. Oh. Oh, but to get it off that button is something. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Uh, I love watching her play. Uh, like, and I I I try not to use this word. I'm not using it exclusively for uh the female side of the the what did you call it earlier? The gender balance. Yeah. Yeah. Because I I say I say players are feisty a lot and that can sometimes be dimminuative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like but sometimes it's hard like Steu has got like an objectively like feisty spicy gameplay and hers is like aggressive aggressive feistiness. It's really fun to watch her play. She is such an active player too. She is constantly interacting with the machine. Even when the ball is in the upper play field, she's nudging and trying to get she wants. That's this that's the lie that they they don't tell you. The lie is that you use the flippers or nudge when it's near the out lane. You constantly move the game constantly. The Oklahoma chicks. Oh, the Oklahoma players. They get it. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've never I've never seen more games just get like shook around up and down. The piece that I I got that was just that was that was a decent That spinner is pretty juiced, too. Yeah. The the piece of advice I got early on was when you're nudging, you're moving the playfield, not the ball, right? Yeah. Your job is to move. And so if you can affect the entire game essentially by nudging, you should. Every every um wall is is its own bumpers, its own flippers. That's right. That's right. And that was kind of the whole point for a long time. Pinball didn't have flippers. Yeah. That was the entire way you interacted with the game. You had the plunge. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Sydney was a very active player. Constantly nudging, keeping things moving. I love that. Just imagine no center post. That sounds awful. Thank you for that clinic. That was a great rage game. We were We were like clipping your saves. Yeah. Yeah, the saves were really good. That was beautiful. Yeah. Retro Casey says, "Very sassy." Yeah, that's another one of those words, isn't it? Sassy and feisty. Look at this. We've got a bill. We've got half a bee. We got 2.5 and another half. This is a game solid game. Solid. Let me go find that game. I'm working. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. There we go. There we go.
    222:59
    The music here is really good and I end up dancing a lot on stream. Yeah, this might be the best music of any tournament in pinball. There's always amazing music. Well, like legitimately, I think you're not wrong. For sure. Ah, Chris is going to go out in the right out lane. What a thing to get distracted about like I'm now talking about good the music is instead of talking about the players. That's how good the music is. I played Alex last night and lost big time to Alex on Alex is fun. I'm just meeting Alex for the first time. They used to live out in Fort Collins before they knew pinball. And the Fort Collins crew is so pinball cool. Really? Yeah. So now I told them they have to go back out there. Uh hot tip uh Stone Cold uh discount tip on plane flights. If you're in Ohio, uh go out if you're going to to a Denver anything part pinball stuff. Go to Columbus. Drive to Columbus. Check the prices out of CH to to Denver. It's like, oh, okay. Columbus is the way to get to Denver. Yeah, cuz apparently it's $400 if you try to go straight from Cincinnati. I'm sure of it. Cuz why? I'm sure of it. So, anyway, now you know. And now Alex and uh his his lady love both know and they're going to go. I have had some tough Frontier flights out there for 400 bucks where I thought, did he just Could I at least get some water? Yeah. Well, you know, it's temporary. It's just temporary pain. All right, here's kick out of the water. Kick out. Okay, he survived it. Yes. Right back in. Right back in. Love that. That feels good. All right, we're in multiball. So, now we're going for those Jack bots. And if you get enough of them, you can go for the visor multiball. What's the mega visor? Mega visor. We haven't seen anybody get it on stream yet today. I was going to say I don't think that's happened today. Tenacious, thanks for the follow. What the heck was that? Okay, so his first ball was out before it was in kind of thing, but he's got We've seen a bunch of those. There's There it is. There it is. 100 100. Oh, I was going to let it 12 more jackpots to Mega Visor. He's really He's from what I understand, they're both new in the the game, too. Yep. So, if you shoot the saucer, uh you do risk getting a bad kick out, but you also relight all the jackpots. Ah,
    225:00
    all right. Getting a pretty good feed. We We've not seen it. Feed is scaring me, but so far we've not seen it that good today. So far, kind the right feet has been worse. The right feet has gone straight down the middle more often than not. STDM. That is the name of the podcast of the cast stream. Does he have a podcast? Uh, no, I don't think so. Oh, I thought he was going to save it. Did he did he do it? Did he do it? He's got to have done it. No tilt. Let's collect some. I don't like saying got to, but yes, he 97. Look at that. Second place. Second place. How far? Right. Right. Right. No. Please tell me. Please tell me. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? I don't know. Why are you Oh, by five million. I'm so sorry about the screaming. You're third place by five million. Oh, missed it by that. That is missed it by that much. That's brutal, man. What a what a great run that was. Like it was a great Alex was really on to something. And he figured out how to keep nailing the left side of the visor, pick up a couple of jackpots, and then he was so consistent. 5 million. There's nothing in this game. I know. I hate that. I hate that. Absolutely. He had the 2x. He had the bonus. I know. Made it until that's not fair. Sometimes you can do everything right and still come up in third place. Sometimes you want I mean, and granted, player one is having the opposite reaction like, "Oh, thank God. Oh my god." But uh you want to say like when someone pushes on that last on that last push really going hard right at the end there. Yeah. Well, I mean everybody scoring over a billion minus one player is pretty good, right? Like we had three billion plus scores. So that's a pretty good game of jackpot. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Let's see what we move to next. I want to see who's still playing. Let me go to the matchups. Taking surreptitious pictures of us being cool. We are pretty cool. Oh, we are pretty cool. See, that's how cool we are. Some picture. Oh, he knows. He knows it's so good. All right, this means we're ready to go to the next round. So, as soon as he calls for it, we will put that up. There it is. Rig is going to Walking Dead. Does he have to shout that? Cuz it's awesome. It's the only way we know. So, let's take a minute and watch a minute on how to play The Walking Dead. It's probably under T, isn't it? The
    227:29
    Coral, I want to learn some Walking Dead pinball. Okay, to start off your skill shot goes for the star rollovers up into the top rollover. After that, you want to concentrate on the three bank drop targets. This will light all your modes. To start a mode, just shoot that shot. Once in a mode for arena, barn, or riot, just continue to hit those mode shots for big points. If you're in tunnel, you want to shoot all the other shots but tunnel to score big points and stay in that mode. For CDC, you want to loop the left ramp. Do that enough to light other shots around the playfield. Hit those to collect to build a value and then collect that value via the CDC ramp again to extend time in modes. Continue to hit the drop target banks down. And you can stay in modes as long as you want. Each time you hit a drop target bank down, you will collect one of three items. Once you collect all three items, you will light blood bath. Shoot the drop target bank down one more time to start blood bath. Blood bath can be combined with any other multiballs. Once you're in blood bath, you can add balls to play. hitting down more banks of drop targets. Other multiballs, well walker, shoot this fat guy enough for well walker multiball. Prison multiball. Shoot this prison enough for prison multiball for 2x playfield. Shoot these two standups here to light 2x playfield. Shoot through the ride shot to the back to the tower target to start 2x playfield. Also shooting around the playfield at all the zombie targets will increase your zombie kills. Doing so will light an inlane X. So once you have an inlane X lit, you can switch it with the flippers. Going through an inlane X will multiply your next shot. That multiplier raises depending on how many walkers you've killed up until that point. Ancillary modes. Bicycle girls, a left ramp, lit blue. Continue to hit that over and over for hurry-ups. Crossbow is right ramp lit yellow. That will light major shots around the playfield to collect crossbow shots. Doing well enough in modes and multiballs will collect weapons down below. Once you collect all six, you'll light horde. shoot through the Woodberry shot to start the mini wizard mode. Finally, players would like to stack bloodbath, a mode, and one of well walker or prison multiballs together for massive scoring points, even adding 2x playfield and an inlane X shot to get massive collects. That's walking dead. Canada drive same game. That's Walking Dead right there. And as uh Eric pointed out in the mintorial, if you can stack your blood bath with your modes with your multiball and pick up an inlane 2x, that's where the big points are. Of course, it's uh nice to say that, but boy, you have to do a lot of things right to get there.
    229:57
    So, let me switch games so that you can see who's playing. Although, by now, this should be a familiar face.
    230:08
    You're watching Chris lead us off. A lot of Chris's and Justin's in this competition. It's really weird. Like back there it says pinball, y'all. But if you turn around, it's actually just a blank green wall. What? Look. Look. Oh my god. It is different. That's weird. So weird. It's like m movie magic. How is this possible? I don't know. Okay, I have to figure out if I'm playing on Doctor Who like right now. So, I need to leave. Otherwise, I get to stay and commentate for another Whamsley. Yes, I get to stay. Okay. How do you play The Walking Dead? We just learned. Yeah. But how do you play? How do I play the Walking Dead? How does he play it? So, while I have While I have ball save, I go after these targets cuz those targets are everything in the game all the time. Genius. Yeah. But when I don't have ball save, especially on this machine, cuz the tilt's really tight, I tend to go for well walker cuz I'm more likely to hit the well walker without draining. Okay, if you go for the center, you're going to drain off that magnet a whole bunch. So, I I save that for my second multiball. If I can bring a mode in, I will. But I'm happy to just play multiball.
    231:09
    That's going to be an unfortunate tip off the right slingshot to the out. He did have a stick save. I am going to pass this off to Gizki.
    231:27
    right, Justin Schnetzer up plunges as you do into that top bumper and gets a an unfortunate drain to the left alley. A rare ball save. Yeah, and the ball save's cool except then you have to plunge back into danger up in the pops. No, we like the pops. Do we? Do we though? Yeah, they're fine. It's fine. The pops are really good at sending you straight down the middle. Oh, did he take off that little rubber that helps you avoid that? So, you're going to have to give it a little whack. Just give it a little whack. You got to do the if you put in the effort, you'll be fine. If it's just rolling, I'm fine with that. But if it's off a pop, it's pretty hard. Like, you got to really be fast. Yeah. Well, everything in pinball's dangerous. That's the nature of the beast. That's true. All right. Good feed right into the prison. Evan, what's going on, man? Good to see you in chat as always.
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    You're watching some Walking Dead. a fine title. I really do love this game. Oh, it's amazing game. Yeah. Great example of the improvements that code can do on a play field. Yep. Yep. For the beginning, but well, when it first came out, there was there was some controversy over whether or not this was going to be a good game. And obviously, people love the property and so they wanted it to be great. The reality is is the playfield has always been great and then the rules made it extra great. Caught up. Girls can do a lot. They do a lot. Absolutely. And now no one talks about those old gave it a little bit of effort into that flip and it was too much. We were just talking about how Sydney's a really active player. She's constantly nudging. Okay. Yeah. Which is great for a lot of games until you're playing something that has a really tight tilt. Any of the modern sterns, it adds up. Well, if you consider this as modern stern. I think it's a fair I think. I would say it is, but anything DMD plus account.
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    All right. Eric lunges to his skill shot. Not a ton of points in the skill shot. Well, you know, builds. Oh, gets a free right orbit there. That's always fun. Yeah, I love that. Oh, beautiful drop catch. Left flipper. Justin always quick on the shout out to the drop. I love drop catches. They are when they're done right, they're pure magic. It is really pretty. That magnet up there is such a jerk.
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    But he picks up the shot and he's clearing the yard a little bit. Bicycle girl starts. That's a hurry up on the left ramp. He picks it up for 1.2 mil. That's going to grow in value. Double danger and a tilt. This is the moment Eric regrets his life decisions which has led him to this tilt because he was the one who said it. I told him not to. I didn't tell him to. We all tell him that every time, but here we are. He said he had to hear multiple people complain about it. Uh, you can count me among them. No, I mean generally, right? Like it's good for the purposes of a tournament because you don't want people playing forever. So I get it. Who set these games up? You did. Who set these games up? Wonder how to. Welcome to the chat. We're glad to have you here on Straight Down the Middle. Hi Singy Bingy.
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    Yeah, Walking Dead is already hard enough. You add this tilt and it gets real intense. We can see Chris picking up his strategy again on the center shot at the prison trying to get that prison multiball going because that's like the strat. That's like everybody's strat. Well, you have a cooler strat though. You have a refined strat. I try and start modes right there. Try and start modes on those drops. Oh, no. No. Ouch. That's the problem with shooting the drops. Sizzle. God knows what's going to happen. The sting. Uh, okay. So, player two, ball two. Yep. Let's go. Justin, is iter? Yeah, Justin Schnitzer. Justin Schnitzer. The Schnets. The Schnets. I like that.
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    I did see Wley. I I appreciate anytime people let the dead bounce happen out of the pops. I was watching him do that a lot. Yep. Ooh, nice out in the pops are not a gimme. You can drain straight out of the pops. Starting barn. Oh, yeah. But luckily there is a teeny tiny ball save. Yarn. A teeny And luckily Oh, that was nice. Oh, I was like, well, I I knew he he was going to have to like slap harder, like physically move the game in order to survive that. And I didn't know if he was going to survive the surviving. Yeah, that's the worst part. Survive the surviving. You may make it out of the first thing, but now you're off the tip of a flipper. There's so many ways to like final destination yourself dead after you survive for a minute. So true. I did it. When the dream wants you, it will find you no matter where you are. That's so apt. I'm scared. All right, Sydney. We had a tilt on ball one. We're now in ball two. Had a really decent start, but then tilted out. So, maybe we can get something else going here on ball two. Okay. Wait, is it I didn't realize that we had double Whamsley. I wasn't looking. I wasn't seeing. Yeah, this is the what the third time we've had two Whamsley's in the same game. Is it Wamsly Wamsly? I think it's Wamsley and I saying it wrong. I always say Wamsley. No, it's my fault. I do it, too. Ah, another tiny little drain and straight down the middle. My Do you have that sympathetic like nudge reflex when you're watching a game where you're like your body just like if I was there I'd be doing it. Um, do do you do you ever do the digital pitball? Same. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. I nudge the controller constantly. I bet I do it in my sleep. I bet like a dog dreaming, you would see me just nudging in my sleep. I love it.
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    I appreciate Phoebe for saying Trent uh that that uh Eric is overboard on his tilts because he is. Yes, he is overboard. Because he is. Phoebe always speaks truth. Although I know why because this tournament already takes him till, you know, midnight and he doesn't want to be up till 4:00 a.m. And that tilt is the difference between a 15-minute game and a 40-minute game. Well, then leave the rubbers on and then don't change the fl. You can't do all of it. Don't change the flipper rubbers to bright red super uber bouncy rubbers. That's true. There are there are kindnesses. And yesterday his dog was at my feet while I was trying to play. Oh, did which is just an extra obstacle. My butt is now on you. I have to get close to you. No, he just laid down behind my feet so I couldn't The rest of Chris Wamsley's ball. I'm going to I'm going to do a Sam. Just a Sam. One of these. Just a Sam. And it's like so subtle, too. All right. Back up. Yeah. I'll just quietly work my way to you. How close is he to multiball? Uh, looks like he's got one more. He's got one more. Oh god. I really just wanted him to go for the center. Like go up top. You can get it. You can get it from the right flipper, but it ain't easy. Better off going from the left for sure. Oh, I have to stop sanding you. Get it. I think it's my turn now. Oh, hold on. I want to see him do it. Oh, what? What is he doing? I don't know. He postp passed over to Oh, he wanted the ramp. He wanted a bicycle girl. Is he just bicycle girling out? That would be a weird choice. I mean, because he's really close to multiball. Yeah, maybe he just wants the win. I You know, he's going to collect a couple of bicycle girls and hope that gets him there. I mean, he's like doing he's probably doing the uh intelligence strat because he's killing it. Yeah, I can't argue with his results. He knew what he was doing all along. Look, it's a geese. I was sure he was going to go for the multiball. Absolutely sure.
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    He picks up the extra ball. It won't award an extra ball, but it will award 2.5 million. [Applause] Elizabeth, welcome back. You're in the middle of uh a confusing ball. So, he's got his his left ramp blinking for Bicycle Girl, but he also has his multiball basically ready. Oh, and he collected as extra ball did. Yep. And he's been pursuing. Is this ball three? Uh I think so. Oh. He's the first player of all three. Um he he'd been pursuing the multiball the entire game and then all of a sudden just turned and went to Bicycle Girl. Yeah. Which sometimes you have to, right? Sometimes you have to pivot. Well, we'll see. I mean, 21 million. Sometimes doing things that feel right is better than doing the right thing. Yep. Oh, two shots for prison. Okay. I like how prison is made into a smiley face. That's fun. Yeah, it is. I've definitely pointed that one out a few times. Like a clown with a big nose. Yeah. Okay. Safe feed. He's got uh So, what has he been going after? It doesn't look like he's been interested in prison. Oh, that is lit. Yeah, prison's lit. You know, it's confusing. It's one or the other. He tried. I mean, he did the right thing, right? I think Deborah had a very poor ball. So, now it's my turn. Oh, no.
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    It looked like his prison was ready to go. He gave it a good nudge to try and save in on the left. I understand that tilt. That makes total sense. The question is, is it going to cost him a place versus Sydney? Probably not. I don't know what his bonus would have been. Sydney has taken her time. IFPA rules say you get a minute to just let it chill, which I think is a really good move. And, you know, just being a just being a cool friend is like sometimes letting someone go to the bathroom or walk away and come. I mean, Tilty Tilts, it's Eric's game. So, yep. It's probably the tilt's probably still doing this just a little bit. So, we can't see her timer, but she actually put a timer on the glass down here just to show us that, you know, she's not taking more time than is due. Still rules ry rulesy. Yeah, I know. I mean, we've seen like majors where people are taking more than that. So, I think it's been pretty flexible sometimes. Oh, yeah. But that's up to the TD. I mean, they can do it however they want. So, she's going after your strap. Yeah. This is what I do. I don't know if it's the right strat, but it's what I do. And okay, so the elder wentsley ended up with 20 something. 21. Okay. All right. So, she's nailing on the well. Woo. Yep. Do it. Do it. Look at that. One more. Repeatable. Repeatable. Two more. No, that was it. She got it. She totally already got it. All good. That was gorgeous. That So, okay. So, she's really showing me that the fruits of that labor are paying off. I will have to think twice about thinking that Will Walker is like I it's a it's a strat. It's a strat. A Laura said can confirm about the nudging while you sleep as the person who has to share a bed with me. I appreciate that. That's fantastic. That's what all those nightmares are about. Nudging. I'm sure she just nudges right back cuz she's a pinball player. So that's right. Like competing nudges. Stop it. Competing nudges. Justin had the ball trapped on the left flipper and could have started prison, decided to post pass instead. Indeed, he wanted he wanted to start a mode and didn't need it. This is one of those moments where like score counting is really important, right? You have to know what do I need not to have the best score of my life. What do I need to get ahead? And that might have been that moment.
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    All right, good ball for Sydney. That puts her in first place at 23. She is guaranteed at least second. Go figure. He did this. He did the uh the focus just need to win strat and somehow his kid came up and over and was like I'll show you man. How how does this happen? Oh yeah yeah yeah. I found her on the left. I found her. This is not Eric's first time playing this game. He decides to go well Walker which again my favorite strat. But man that sling did not fire. He was not able to pick it up on the right flipper off the sling. That's going to end Eric's game. And that puts Sydney in first place and Chris in second place. Man, just in time for a dream. Just in time for everything to end. I know. Eric really struggled on this game. He uh Ah, wow. He knows this game very well and just couldn't pull it together. That happens. Yeah, he double rolled odds and evens just the game before. He double rolled it. Yeah. Really? Mhm. Wow. Mhm. Once you get in that flow and you get the tap pass just right and you have that post up, you figure out where how to get up that left orbit. Yeah. No. No. You just hit the saucer and you just go saucer all day. Just the saucer. Who are we kidding? Sure. You get a a number for it. Every time you get 5,000, right? If it's lit. Oh, you mean it awards a number as well? It awards a number as well. And you get 5,000 if you have all of the odds or all the evens. I don't think we've we've done odds and evens yet. We should do that. Well, yeah. It's kind of a boring game to watch. What? Stop it. Well, it's a little floaty and slow. It's a You can you can sit there and just tap past it back and forth until you get like the perfect one, which is common. And it's kind of like watching Deborah play jackpot. Yeah. He's just watching nothing happen for a while while people barely do things. Yeah. With the the plunging. Yeah. I think they fixed that in baseball by making them speed everything up. Maybe we need a similar Yeah. shot clock or something. Well, technically there's the auto launch and pitch clock, but you can kind of trick the auto launch and it doesn't Jackpot doesn't even have one, right? No. No. But like in modern games, that's what I guess that's the guard against someone just plunging away. That's our our pitch clock. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see who else is still playing. And uh we'll see if Chuck wants to move us over somewhere else. Also, please remind me to speed this animation up next time I make it. It takes way too long. Oh, we have a lot going on. All right. Hopefully Chuck will move us over to something really exciting. Uh because we still have Mando playing Game of Thrones, which tends to play along. Dirty Harry, which we haven't seen today, Doctor Who, we also haven't seen. And of course, King Kong. King Kong's been moving real fast. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Compared to what I think we thought it would do. Okay. All right. Let me see if he's going to move. Hang tight. Okay. I'll talk to you. No, he's going to King Kong. All right. He just told me. Oh, we're going to King Kong. Yep. He just told me. Um, yeah. Josh worked on this game. Josh Henderson was the one who was kind of manning this game since Rick had to be pulled aside to work on on Jaws. Okay. to 50th. So, okay. Um, oh, in time for the 50th anniversary. So, all of the work lately has been all Josh plus Keith has been in like Italy and parts of Europe for uh for a bit. So, it's a great reminder because I think we often talk about a game designer, right? And there is a there is a lead designer, but there's an entire team of people. There is a whole team. There is a whole team. Now, with Ellen Games, Keith probably has more um like more of influence throughout all of the entire everything than other designers. Okay. I would say Keith is the most involved out of anyone. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Is that like because he wants to really have control over the final product? Yeah. And he's not a control freak, but he just knows what he wants. And Rick isn't like a pinball person, so he's not going to be offering those those scoring or or rule advices and and all that. Yep. So, okay, it's my turn. Let me go ahead and fix our players while Elizabeth goes to her game.
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    All right. How about a 2x Playfield? This is a nice time to have it. Gay Kong. I think we've got what? Oo, he went for three locked. I'm all about Ann, but he might have already done an Yeah, Annne seems to be the big points mode. Yeah. And then I like chasm after that. Well, might just hair just look at that drop sweep. Very nice. Dang. Very nice. Oh. Oh, no. No. With double scoring, unfortunately. Can't make a bunch of points on it. Double scoring for me is an instant death. Now, as soon as I know I'm in double scoring, I'm going to do something dumb. I hate the sound. Double scoring. I know. I know. Don't say that out loud. Oh, you didn't have qualified yet. Okay. I thought I saw one lock, but it must have just been a city mode or a city animation. He did. He did get the sweep though, right? I mean, the sweep is a sweep, but you have to do it twice. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like he got one of them. Grandpa Shark.
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    That's what his name is up there. I didn't see that. You thought I was just calling him Grandpa Shark. No, I just thought you were doing this like there's dead space, so that's when I do the shark song. This is my normal time to do the old shark song. That was great. Like I want to start doing that. Like I can't find the right button. Shark. Great. But a shark. Next player's up. Carl, you deserve my commenting about that that that unlucky ball of yours, but all I could do was hum the shark. Diddy. Oh, Gra is going shades down, baby. Oh, look at that. This guy came to game. Oh, that's hot. That's so hot. Ross, I'm taking a picture of that. Baby Shark pinball is on the way. I'm certain of it. I'll pass it along to Elizabeth so we get it done. Yes, it could be like a like it could be like the the the followup to Jaws. Jaws 2: Baby Shark. If you can find a way to combine the Baby Shark song and the Bluey theme song, we could have the most earwormy pinball machine of all time. I cannot get enough of the style choices happening here today. It's great, right? Yeah. I don't know if it helps to have sunglasses on, but it sure does look cool. So, he is now doing that dead eyee mode. Oh, you have to try to plunge it for for He's plunging for that left out lane. And might I add, not very well. Nope. Nope. It's a tough do, man. If I get two of these, I'm pretty happy. There's one. It's not worth a ton, but it sure is cool. Y, there you go. Now worth four, two, one. All right, he got he got a couple of them. Oh, that is so cool. Now it's going to drain all balls and it's going to restart him. He picks up 10 million on dead eyee. Again, not a super valuable mode unless you absolutely murder it. But cutest, but it is cool. It is cool. He backhands. See that backhand? Yep. Backhands the island shot. Love that. If you're on a pro, look for this shot every time. That's the way to get there. What? What is pterodactyl a new strat? I have seen a lot of pterodactyl today. I I do think there's just a lot of folks who haven't played the modes much and so you look for the one that seems good because it has a lot of shots.
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    I'm using one of the spiderves spider multiballs. Yeah. And one of those pit multiballs. This is a spider. Octopus insect multiball. I mean octopus. Hold on. There we go. A spider is an octopus insect as far as I'm concerned.
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    Oh, 2x cave award. Is he in Is he in a double score? So, he picked up 2.3. Oh, it's such a tilt. It's such a tilt. That's not a tilt. That's not a tilt. That's not a tilt. Of course, it's a tilt. Yeah, it's a tilt. Oh, I'm sorry. You were you were just doing you were doing the right I was willing it to be and I was wrong.
    250:41
    Wow. All right, that's going to wrap that one. I didn't see final scores. No, they're not going to tell us yet. I'm assuming if Royy's putting his initials in that he must have done pretty well. Yeah, that's like the winning score. My only complaint with the code on this game is that there's so much drop target focus. And the drops are cool, but there is so much drop target focus. I mean, there's only one for bank of drops. Yeah, but you focus. So, the code though asks you to hit them constantly. I know. I know. I know. Drives me nuts. I like the drops and I like the little bridge that leads to the drops. I must not have I must not be doing the cool things that require you to hit the drops because I have not feel it. I have really not been feeling the the focus. Well, so like I know to start multiball the multiballs like hit the drops twice and then during multiball it's like hit the drops and then you play a mode that's like okay knock down the drops. Oh, I don't play those modes. Yeah, I don't do that. It seems like a lot of drops. Don't play that if you ask me. Uh I play Ann which is up the center like in other just blue shots and then hit the gong which for mad it's such an easy way to get fast mad points. You build big jackpot and then cash it in. If you're in 2x playfield, you might just drain immediately. But if you're in 2x playfield and you just have save and you do that like big points. Yeah, it's like easily 100 mil simple. Um and then there's the chasm. Do you know about the chasm? Oh yeah, cross the chasm where you can just loop it. Yeah, nothing to do with drops there. Ignore those drops. I love that. And then apparently pterodactyl has dropped all day. So Roy Richie picks up seven for a total of 40. Ross Burgantino picks up five for 33. And then Alex and Carl are going to finish at 34 points a piece. All right. I don't know if we'll move on to another one. Let's see who's still playing. How many more rounds do we have left? Uh we have a total of 10. And this was round seven. Round seven. And it's over. So, now we're round eight. Sorry. It sounds like I was like, "How many rounds we" and you're like, "And it's over." And in my slightly sleepy brain, I was like, "Oh, cool. We're done." Oh, we're done. But yeah, it says I guess he put up top. Round seven starts at Oh, wait. Yeah, that was at 3:30 was our restart. So, this is going to be round eight. Sorry. Math. So many maths. Too many maths, I say. So, we'll get those final scores reported and a new round started up and then Chuck will take us to our next destination. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. Let me play a quick minatorial. It's so fun to try and summarize Game of Thrones. Let's see Chuck give it a shot. I'm excited. How do you do this in two minutes? You don't
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    start the joust before I piss myself. Let's learn some Game of Thrones premium. Starting off, players typically choose Baratheon, Tyrell, or Martell. To start the game to light mode, hit any major shot three times to light modes to start up the center ramp. You can start two modes at one time. You can either complete the modes doing the flashing shots in the lower play field, or you can hit the three stand-ups on the upper playfield, then the loop-de-loop, and it will complete all modes at once. During single ball play, if you hit the three standup targets on the upper playfield, then shoot behind them, you will collect castles. Once you collect enough castles, you will start castle multiball. Down here in the lower play field, the battering ram. If you hit this enough, that will start playfield multipliers for up to 5x playfield multipliers. Other multiballs, you can shoot lock targets over here to light locks on the center ramp. Lock three balls up the center ramp. You'll start blackwater multiball, which can be combined with up to two modes. Other multiballs are wall multiball. Qualified by shooting the kickback right here. Shoot that enough and you'll qualify wall multiball on the right orbit. Winner has come. multiball. Once you've qualified modes using shots, they will ice over. Once you hit those enough, they will start winner is coming hurry-ups on any major shot. Collect four of those hurry ups to start winner has come multiball. If you've completed four modes, you will light hand of the king mini wizard mode up the center ramp for very valuable scoring. Now, into strategy. If you pick the Baratheon house, you will have a yellow center button lit that you can hit to light your outlane saves once per ball. Also, you can hit down the drop target bank over here as well as the kickback to work towards wall multiball. And once you're in there, it is worth 10x for Baratheon users. Tyrell, you will have a lit in lane, which will light shot multipliers all over the playfield. So, always be rolling down a lit in lane with Tyrell, which you can switch with the flippers. If you are Martell, this is an orange button that you can use during multiballs, once per ball, where you will add a ball to play and restart your ball save in a multiball. That's Game of Thrones. I love I love the way Eric's tried to summarize Game of Thrones in two minutes. He did a great job. What was that quote he dropped on us at the very jouster or I'll piss myself, I believe is what he said. And he said it like kind of like quickly, almost as under his breath, if that was a thing. It was great. All right. Anyway, the mintorial. Anyway, here we go. And as you pointed out, he could have given us a tip in those five seconds, but he had to get the quote in, which I really respect cuz we all know cuz we all know. I'm getting some I'm getting some geese. Oh, she does. She does love her some Game of Thrones. And I think Yeah, I'm last on on Grand Prix. So, I've got Oh, am I up? I'm first on Hando. I love Game of Thrones. She loves Game of Thrones. I think this is one of the best uh Dwight feeling games, you know? This is like clearly Dwightism in a way in a way that rocks, you know, and was some of that didn't Lyman like like fidget with it. Yeah. Like but like the combined powers of that. Yeah. I mean there's a lot of foresight to to make a choose your house type of game, you know, choose your character, right? You have to make like four different games basically. He is he is a um a board game. Yeah, he is a board game guy. He's a board game creator. He developed Nobleman. Yeah, the Nobleman. Yeah. And and so for for him, he's he's thinking in those terms and he's always trying to incorporate that into pinball. And sometimes it just slaps and sometimes you just want to slap it. It's very good. And this is one of those moments where it's the first fun flips at the top. I I do love the castle. I like it. I like I like going for it. I do bounce. I don't love how it blocks some of the shots, but I really like that there's a lot of opportunity for something different to happen up there. They did a good job with it, I think, physically. It's fun. I like All right, going for Lannister. I don't I'm not afraid. Lannister was um I I used to choose Lannister a lot in early when when I felt more or on different copies that I feel more comfortable with. Now, does that mean that she's going to on purpose go for Lannister or does it mean that she's just okay with missing the shots that she's going for? still getting you know she might like the playfield multiplier rule and you know that what is the playfield I don't know the playfield uh Lannister makes the action button spend your coins for playfield multipliers no so it's really great how many standups do you have to survive right exactly I know I don't know I don't know but if you're going if you're being in multiball you you might just you know accumulate that's the stress okay all right that's actually really cool yeah there you go yay we learned things that was kind of a Oh, tip save. Oh, nice forward nudge. Nice. You know what? This is maybe the one modern here that's more nudgeible than the other example. I think it's forward nudgeible, but not sideways. Okay, so he was just utilizing what you can. Yeah, you know how it is. Oh, I can't see Mando anymore. I'm up. I'm up, too. So, we're running away.
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    We're gonna get Eric to hop in on his own stream for two minutes. Yay. Eric's coming.
    258:44
    What's up everybody? Thanks everybody for watching. Got some go action. It's been pretty nasty on everybody today. I think this is the first time we've thrown it on here.
    259:06
    Just saw Ched Hobs doing pretty well with some Lannister strats last last round. That's always good to see.
    259:39
    Back with you. Thanks to all 109 folks who have tuned in to Straight Down the Middle today to watch the Northern Kentucky Open. We do this once a year on the 4th of July weekend right here in, as you guessed it, Northern Kentucky right across the river from Cincinnati.
    259:57
    And you're watching Justin Schnetzer, our player for ball one. Now, this is pretty good approach is build up that uh bonus X or that playfield X up there in the upper play field. Yeah, but that last target is such a tricky one. That rubber is kind of blocking it. There you go. Yep, he got the back hand on it. Maybe Trent, he gone. I hope Trent ain't gone. Is Trent gone? I would almost want to try to sneak it back up there because it's at 3x and it's the easy shots. For sure. Yeah. And you can't drain from the top, so you may as well stay up there and play.
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    Okay. So, I love this spinner. The spinner is the best. So, you want to hit this maybe three times. Get it racked up. There it is. Look at that. Looking good. Okay. Good use of the the um perk the button perk. That's why you picked the spinner once more. No, I'm I'm guessing that was like a effort to transfer the ball to the right cuz he does need that wall shot. Yep. He goes back up top now. That 3X has stopped cooking up top.
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    Wise decision. It looked like he was going to lose it over the edge of I wonder. Let's see if he goes for Yep. He's trying to get back up top. Mhm. He's um Does that collect the equivalent of the wall shot down below on the upper playfield? Is that how it works? Oh, I don't know. That's a great question. I just always shoot the wall because I'm not a wuss. So, it's not an issue for you. So, we we will never know. Oh my gosh. Okay. Good. Good. Off the wall. I think you're going to see all four of our players spend quite a lot of time up top. That's how it tends to go is build up that 3x multiplier up top and then cash it out. Okay. Yep. A lot qualified. I was looking at the the breath uh the Lord of Light kind of making efforts to get another one. I don't know if you can do that during It didn't look like it was adding up to a kickback. You might have to clear it a few times. I don't know.
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    Okay, I think he is going for that wall. There you go. Got it. Collected it off the stand targets. So, that was almost full value. Wow. Was that 122 million for that shot? Yeah, that's how it works. That's amazing. Off of the drops. You have to hit the wall and then the drop. Hit the wall then the drops. Wow. I mean, I'm impressed. He really I mean, he sought it out. Picked it up for 141 total. 122 on that shot alone. Good move. It doesn't matter how many times I watch this game. It doesn't matter how many times I commentate this game. The premium version of Game of Thrones is I've never understood all the rules. And it's my job to understand the rules so I can tell you what's going on and I've never understood all of them. And I never will. I know that now. I've probably commentated 50 of these.
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    I feel like I would have to own one and play it for a couple of months before I really understood it all. All right. So, not much for Roy Richie there. His ball too. Little bit disappointing. Sydney's coming in at a deficit at 2 million. She chose Lannister. And what's the bonus? Why choose House Lannister? Uh Lannister is um your gold can give you playfield multipliers. Um and that's it. Yeah. Uh, I mean it's it's a mode that you can complete on the upper play field, so it's good. But, um, usually I don't pick Lannister. Um, what the the thing about this this specific, uh, Game of Thrones is that the Lannister buttons are locked to only four. Yep. Um, which means that you can't you can't do the normal thing with Lannister and just get like a crazy high score. So, Lannister is playfield multiplier via gold. I usually go Martell for the add a ball. Oh, Martell. Because I just I will get into a multiball. I'll start doing something great and then I'll get down to one ball and all of a sudden just hit that, save it, and I get another run at multiball. That's what I usually use. Well, the thing about Martell is that it has a really it has the worst perk for a hand of the king. Yeah, it it's so it like if if your strategy is hand of the king, you probably don't want MTO. Well, if you're somebody who tends to get to hand of the king, I agree. I am not somebody who tends to get to hand of the king, at least not in a tournament. Oh, but MTO can be good. Um, especially like I I can only play the castle multiball. I I don't even try to go for Blackwater on this one. Really? Yeah. It's too dangerous because the light lock is too too dangerous. Yeah. Yep. Martell us more. Yeah. I mean, so again, I was saying up front like what I tend to see in tournaments is a lot of upper playfield action. I tend to see a lot of wall multiball. I tend to see a couple of winter collects, not a necessarily a lot of black water unless somebody's having a long playing game only because, as you said, this one can be pretty dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So if if you're doing mart, I would probably use it for wall or castle. Mhm. Cuz both of those are really valuable. I mean I mean Blackwater can be very valuable, but it's also a lot harder to get your jackpots up in Black Water. This was really tough. I mean he took a shot. He bricked one standup and then instant death, which is how this game tends to go when you hit those gold targets, those standups. Yeah. And if if you breathe on the game, it's going to tilt. Yeah. So that's why on this one I use I I like to try to avoid the dangerous shots. Um like that's why I pick uh Baratheon as my first house. Not even cuz the ability is so good. It's just cuz I don't want to hit those drop targets. Yep. Um and and the perk for it's really good for um hand of the king for Baratheon. Yeah. Plus you get that Lord of Light save which is what we saw Trent use there. Yeah. Yeah. Um Does he take a battle? He does. He takes his Baratheon battle. Let's see. Is he going to play the mode or is he going to do it out of the upper play field? Let's see. Can you play the battle up top in every in every mode? Um, every mode except Targaryen. Except Targaryen. Okay. So, obviously better better to play up top where you cannot drain, right? Yeah. But that requires you to get up top. Yeah. Uh, which I mean on this one the right ramp is very backhandable. Um, so it's not it's not that bad. Um, I usually stack Baratheon and Lannister and finish those up top. And then I do Stark and Greyjoy and finish those up top, too. And then you have you just have a free pass to the hand of the king. It's one of the reasons I kind of struggle with the premium a little bit. Yes, the rules are insane, but also you can do so much up top and get so many points up top that it tends to become a game of who can get up top and stay up top. Yeah, it's uh it's very similar to Jaws. Um Jaws has the same thing. um where the upper play field awards are like crazy. Y um although up there on Jaws it's a little bit harder to do a lot up here you can actually just stay up and play for quite a while. Yeah. I mean um well on Jaws if you just if you you can keep looping the reel. Um if you're if you're solid on that orca ramp you can just keep it up there. Yeah. Um cuz the thing about the reel is that it brings it to your mini flipper and so you can just drop that and it comes down to your right lane. Yep. It's a right in lane feed. Yeah. It is a rare moment that it'll pop out, but it does every once in a while. Yeah. Well, you got to keep it there for a while and then let go of it. Um bummer for Sydney on that one. Again, one brick and straight to the right out lane. So, we have seen Trent blow this up in the past. I remember a couple years ago we had like a 40-minute game with Trent where he or a 40-minute ball it felt like where he just could not could not lose the ball. Oh wow. This is not going to be that ball. He's going to finish at 34. So right now Schnetsz has a walk away at 143. That's got to feel good. Wow. Especially playing against such great players. I mean hands down walk away. Yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. Fairly quick game of Game of Thrones. I tend to wait for this one to go long every round, but yeah, that was pretty quick. I feel like today it hasn't played that long like at all. Yeah. Um maybe Eric made it even worse. I mean, he did uh he did have to work on it yesterday cuz the loop on the upper playfield wasn't working last night. Yeah, he did do a he fixed a switch on it. Yeah. Um so maybe maybe he decided to wax it or something while he was doing that. Maybe maybe I wasn't you last night. This is a a great example, too. We were talking earlier about community and how everybody chips in. So, last night he has a switch go down. Every single game in this basement is working, right? He has a switch go down and instead of just saying, "Okay, I'm going to pull it out of the tournament." He opens it up, diagnoses the problem. Roy Richie, who he's playing with, right, who we just saw, y says, "I can bring you a micro switch in the morning." The first thing this morning when Roy got here, they reinstalled the Switch, got the game running, not just for them, but for everybody so that everybody could enjoy the game. So that pe even people watching can enjoy the game. I just love this community that everybody's willing to chip in. So that so that way Lois and Trent and Elizabeth can get 20 billion. That's right. We had an EM that went down earlier. Very different problem, right? Yeah. Got that fixed back up and running. It's an incredibly uh giving community. Is it Is it odds and evens? Oh, I thought you were talking about hot tip. Did hot tip go down? Yeah. Oh, I didn't. Hot tip's down right now. You know what's wrong with it? Nope. Okay. I'm sure there are some people who are not at all disappointed by that fact. I'm disappointed. I love that game. I know. I love it, too. Oh, we'll go to another EM. We'll go to Grand Prix. How about that? Even better. Does he still have lightning flippers on the upper playfield? I have not paid enough attention to that. Uh, yeah, he Yeah, he does. Um, they're they're lightning flippers.
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    But they're lightning flippers, but they don't look like lightning flippers. It's weird. Um, like they don't look like typical lightning flippers. What makes a lightning flipper a lightning flipper? It's like like you know how you know how the light like uh like Doctor Who like it sort of has like a jaggedy like art on it or whatever on the top of it. Yeah. Like the Game of Thrones doesn't have that. Does a Lightning flipper do anything that a standard 3-in flipper doesn't do? Uh, it has a bigger hole in the middle. Well, that's fine. It also um the power on it, it it also shoots uh harder. Um Oh, so he actually has a different mech underneath it. Yeah. Okay. Um All right. He's got his left spinner qualified for a,000 points a spin right now. Now, if he were to drain, it would be only a 5,000 point bonus because he's lit on the right, not the left. But he's going to cash in a bunch of those thousand points. I didn't see what he started with, but that felt like a good 40k. It's a good rip. There we go. He's going to build that bonus. That's now going to build 30k in the bank. And 35k. Take that 35k home. I'm glad he got that rip before he went out.
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    Fuzzy says the lower moment of inertia of the flipper would make it accelerate faster. I don't know what a moment of inertia is. Yeah. I sounds very technical. Do you know what that is? Yeah. Yeah. Um is that like the sort of center of balance? That's um sort of like the the pulling. Okay. So that's sort of like the I don't know. This is hard to explain. It's sort of like the the pulling the flipper pulling on I think the ground like the playfield or the air. Okay. Like like air molecules like what the friction would be. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Oh, he gets that back. I thought that was dunzo. Let's watch that again. This is what not to do and then how to win it back the classy way. That was really cool. Wow. That was cool.
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    But I see I see what he's talking about. Like um rotational equivalent mass. Okay.
    272:43
    The rotational equivalent of mass does not help me, but I appreciate the physics genius. Oh, okay. It's the difficulty to move or spin it. Got it. Okay, cool. Thank you. So, what you're saying is there's there's less mass on the flipper um to spin and so therefore it's easier for the flipper to spin. So, if the flipper's shorter, you would expect it requires less leverage to push the ball from a point that's closer in. Right. Roller coasters. Are you designing roller coasters? Is that what your degree is? Because that would be awesome.
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    Well, why didn't you just say that, guys? You're right. Moment of Inertia is also a cool band name. Um, maybe that will be the first album by the band name we came up earlier. Bless you. Oh, but whenever whenever I'm in front of like these lights and stuff, I sneeze all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Staring into the lights will do that to you. Well, it's cuz I have um I have a thing called photo sneeze reflex. Oh. Which is like sneeze whenever you are in like contact with lights or is that right? Yeah. Most people if they like stare at the sun will sneeze, but this might be lower grade for somebody with the reflex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I didn't even know that was a thing. That's cool. I mean, not for you, but it's neat that it is. I mean, it's whatever. All right. Deborah Tolman's up now. She is at 3098 or three. I can't tell which. Uh, that's a three. That's a three. 303.
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    And I can almost see from here, but I can't tell if that upper one upper right is an eight or a three. Guess we'll find out. We'll find out if it rolls over. It was a nine.
    274:46
    You think Ben may have already rolled this? Okay, so that could be a three. So we might be looking at 1.3 million or maybe maybe he had four house balls. It could be. I mean, it's possible to have a great player with a bad score on this game. We certainly saw that last night. The finals came down to 400,000 and that was the finals. Those are the two best players of the night.
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    And then earlier today, we had a game where everybody was above 840. So, goes to show there's a little bit of luck in every game. Yeah. Um, oh, Eric was saying earlier that um, like Mando on everybody's ball, like in his game on everybody's ball one, everybody had less than a million. Really? Yeah, that's rough, man. He plays beautiful drop kick. So RC had a really nice like little tip that he kind of live caught the tip and then was like, "Oh god." And flipped it over and then he had another beautiful drop catch. So that was two two flipper skills in a row that we got to see. Yeah. I want to see the shots now. Now shhats it. Shhats it. And we should be careful like you know a lot of times we just use these terms. We never tell anybody what they are. So maybe it's worth defining some terms for those who maybe don't look deeply into pinball skills. How what is a shots? A shhats is um it could either be a defensive or like a um I guess offensive uh thing. But um basically whenever your ball is coming to the very tip of the flipper, then you flip and it'll go into the other lane. Yep. Um leading up to a flip with the other flipper. Yep. So it'll come up here, rattle around, and come back down. Or sometimes it'll just roll over that switch for you, which can be really helpful depending on what that switch is. Or on some games it'll go to the outland. Yeah. Some games it'll go up and out. Yeah. You got to really know what games you can do it on. And this game is one you got to be really careful with your drop catches and your shates. If you were to shat, it would go up and out that hole right there. And if you drop catch, which is when you meet the ball with the flipper and drop it together for a soft cradle, it might go out as well. Oh, that was close. I feel like it only it only really goes out if it's like a really slow roll. Um,
    277:22
    yeah, if it's going too fast, it'll bounce off the back and come back in. Yeah, like we saw earlier. Like we saw. I think he was trying to collect there, but he may have been going for the spinner. Uh-oh. Oh, nice use of that tip. That was perfect. So, it would have been so tempting to try and flam that one away and fire it off the left flipper, but he didn't. He had the patience to tip it to the left and pick it back up on the right. Yeah. Honestly, I don't I don't think these flippers would have allowed that. Yeah, these flippers have a lot of give. Good ball by RC. Yeah, good ball. This is ball five, so it all counts. And he ends up at 796.
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    I want to find out what I did on uh odds and evens. Oh, how you finished. Yeah, odds and evens is one that you have to play the whole game, right? So, you may not be sure how you finished. Yeah, and I was player one. Yeah. All right. He's got his spinner lit for a th000 a spin. No double bonus just yet. Gets a half rip there for Oh, maybe 15. First place. Sweet. Did you get it? Yeah. First place. Nice. I uh I rolled the game for the first time. Oh, that feels good. Yeah, that feels good. And I was doing the whole little tap pass maneuver, too. Mhm. With the uh center post up. Yeah, we need to put that one on stream. Nobody seen that one yet. It's uh it's a it's a it's a game. Liz was behind coming into this ball and unfortunately she's going to finish in fourth place. That's all right. Sometimes you just don't get the luck on this game. I feel like very similarly to um hot tip. There's like a little circle up there by the drop targets up like the A and B drop targets up there that it's like if it's coming at a certain angle out of there, it's going away. It's Yeah, it's on its way out. I mean, these are really unpredictable bumpers. If you end up coming down the middle and bouncing off this bumper, you can end up in an in lane, you can go to an out lane, you can go straight down the middle. I mean, the the whole point of the bumper is that it's a a roundway of exerting force in all directions at once. So, you can activate anywhere on that thing and end up anywhere. And uh the short plunge on this game is definitely not there. Um no. Yeah. Plus, plus I don't really see the point of short plunging on this game because I mean um you want your double bonus. Yeah. And because like double bonus is huge on this game. Um so that's going to be it. We're going to have Robert Cecil RC out front, Ben right behind Deborah in third and Liz in fourth to round out their round nine. Now we only have one more round after this. You want to do a bubble team this round? Oh, that'd be great. Yeah, let's do it. How close are we, Eric, on this round? There's still a lot of games playing. Okay. All right. So, that's going to about just about wrap up round nine. For round 10, we're going to follow a bubble group. Those are folks who are playing to get into the finals. Let's take a look at where everybody is on the standings. And you can see where our bubble is. So, right now, you can see Trent out front, Logan, Justin, Eric, and Chris all tied for second. Picking it up at six is Chris in a league all your own. Then Carlos and Ross at seven. Elizabeth, Sydney, and Roy in at nine. Ken picks it up at 12. But our bubble right now, Doug, Kaikindel, Robert Cecil, and Ethan and Carl are on either side of our bubble. All vying for that first for that 16th spot or higher in order to make it into the A division. And then down here, looking around 32 where Steen Eiswunger is, who was a finalist last night, Stu is on the bubble of being in the B division or second 16. He was al I think he also got uh third last year overall in the NKY Open. Yeah. I and he's I mean he's a perennial finalist around here at NKY at Arcade Legacy at Pinball Garage tournaments. He's always near the near the finals. So let's see where Eric is taking us for our bubble group. Uh I'm going to be player four on Grand Prix. Ah okay. Go get him. Good luck. Yeah, we just watched that one, so you're all you're all ready for it. I love it. Gregory Kennedy says, "Ethan Cam, I don't know who we're on for this one." Let's see who's playing Walking Dead. Let's go find him.
    281:53
    Well, how about some of the folks I just pointed out? Doug Hikindel, Carl Hersig, Sean Kentner, Jeremy Ryan. Here's our forsome. Everybody's fighting to be in that A division. You can see in between 39 and 43 points as we go into round 10, our final qualifying round to decide who's in the A and B divisions at the NKY Open 2025. Gregory, we're missing you down here. Would love to have you next year. I can imagine off of your European tour, you needed a little bit of rest, but you all made us proud out there winning the Epstein Cup for the United States. It seemed like a really cool experience.
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    For those unfamiliar, the Epstein Cup is sort of a world championships where you take the best from each nation. This year happened in Austria. And uh really cool to see the whole world come together and play pinball together. There's Doug Kaendall's stair. Oh, I'm sorry, North America. Forgive me. Not for the US. Hello, Deborah. What up? You are on now. Is this thing on? It's on. Now, we were just talking about the Epstein Cup. I saw that. I mistakenly said winning it for the US, but it was North America. Winning it for North America. You mistakenly said what? The for the US, but that's incorrect. Oh, well, they did still call it the US versus Europe. Oh, Doug. Ah, rough.
    283:22
    I have to tell Selena that I can come back to her. Okay. Selena the singer. Okay. Is that who you're listening to in your headphones? That's who I'm dating. Oh, wow. Don't tell Trent. Wow. She's nice. You know, it's not a long-term thing. She's very busy. North America versus Europe. Got it. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. And it's official. Like if anyone from Japan or um Australia was going to be a part of the Epstein Cup, they'd still technically call it Europe. But is that right? Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, they have to lump it together a little bit, but I mean you can you can come from anywhere. What up? What? They just put you in what they call Europe. Oh, yes. Correct. Correct. Oh, that's odd. I thought you going to be like, "What? What? They can't just call it Europe. North America versus the rest of the world." That was a good laugh. All right. I like when they have the guts to call it a World Champion. Like when baseball plays the World Series, they always call it the World Series, right? It's not the World Series, is it? Kind of. Depends on your definitions, but yeah, two countries involved. That's all there are, right? Yeah, that's right. That sounds about right. I did the maths. There's Bicycle Girl. Nope. not able to cash in on Bicycle Girl gets bit on the way out. And one of the rudest things that they've ever done in uh coding is make you think that maybe you got a ball save because it lit. I know. And instead you just look up and it's like, "Yeah, here's a little consolation prize. We just want to point out how dead you are." Yeah. Did you know that you're dead? Like seriously, what do you think? And again, everybody's playing to try and get into that A division. So these are all people who've been playing well. They're going to make A or the top of B. Oh, okay. All right. And they're they're trying to get their place secured in a North America versus Eurasia. Yeah. Yeah. Eurasia, Australia. Euras, Australia, Arctica. You know, there could be some pinball machines in Antarctica. Eurasia, Australia, Africa Arctica.
    285:15
    Uh Sean Sean's up next. Just waiting a second. Yep. Hello everybody. By the way, I'm doing a really The chat is way over there. So uh and Justin is a fine fine a orator and commentator and he always pays attention so if anybody said anything to me directly just know that I am saying hello. If you guys don't know the great Deborah Tolman you do now. She is a brilliant pinball player and knows just about everything a person can know about pinball. That's why I like it when you and and uh Geese are up here together because between the two of you, you have seen all of it. Even though we kind of get stupid. Well, she doesn't get stupid. I get stupid. Things get a bit silly. I like that it says, "Sorry, South America and Africa. It could be the Americas versus Eurasia Africa." Oh, no. All right. So, I'm up already, which is a good thing for me, but a bad thing. Oh, odds and evens. That means Stu's game is over already. That means that Steu is over already. That's a bad sign. He was He was pulling up the tail on the B division. I really really wanted him to like have a look and maybe he did. Maybe actually he lit the 5,000 real fast. Maybe he did. So, all right, I'll be back. Or, you know, not all right. Still waiting on Sean Ker. It is fairly normal to have somebody who, you know, went and get a bathroom break or had a phone call or something. So, that is quite possible in this case. And, uh, again, fairly casual tournament. People are pretty forgiving about that kind of thing. So, usually if you tell your group, hey, I'll be back in 5 minutes, nobody cares. But you're watching the very tail end, round 10 of qualifying. And then we're going to figure out who's in what. We'll have any playoffs that need to be played off. Playoffs will be full games on one of I think three games that Eric picked out. If I remember right, they're all classics and Stars is one of them. And um after any playoffs that need to be completed, we will start with our A division and B division finals simultaneously. We have separate games, at least starting games for A and B division. Uh Stars, Bad Girls, and Big Game. Thank you.
    287:33
    And we'll have to switch over a couple of things technically to bring that up. So it might just take us a minute or two to bring up the finals.
    287:49
    Hopefully somebody found Shawn wherever he might be. We're also lucky enough to have a ton of food upstairs. Uh, every year we get a just a ton of people bring stuff and we have Chipotle up there, so he may be up grabbing a bite as well. If you've ever thought about getting involved in a pinball tournament and you don't know how, uh, check out your local arcades. Most of the tournaments that are open tournaments take place in arcades. So, just give them a call. If you know an arcade that has four or more pinball machines, three or more pinball machines, and ask them if they ever have tournaments. And if they don't, you can start one. If you're not sure, uh, just shoot us a note. Let me know. tell me, I can reach out to you on how to start your own pinball tournament. Uh because it is such a great way to make friends, to build community, to get people involved. And for me, playing competitive pinball took the game from fun to hobby. That was the moment that it switched from fun, hey, it's a nice thing to do every once in a while, to a hobby that just is out of control. Cool.
    289:01
    Black Monkey, thank you for the kind words. We try our best.
    289:12
    We'll see what the hangup is here in just a minute. Yeah, I know. IFPA clock right there, Sean. I just saw him come down the stairs. He's ready to play.
    289:30
    There are certainly a lot of debates out there in the competitive pinball world about the clock and uh how tight you should be on the clock. That has been largely up to the discretion of the tournament directors uh though there are certainly IFPA guidelines for that. And we've seen even in major tournaments, this is obviously not a major tournament, but we've seen in major tournaments where it's become an issue. Yeah, Roy has to fix something on the next door game. Isn't that a bummer? I wonder what he's working on over there.
    290:07
    So, Roy is not only a great competitive pinball player, he is also a tech for just about everybody in the area. He runs his own pinball repair company, Silver Ball Sales and Service, and he also helps keep all of our games in good working order. It does. It seems whatever tournament he's at, Cincinnati, the NKY Open, the Thursday night at Arcade Legacy, he is always fixing something. And I have learned most of what I know about pinball repair from Roy Richie.
    290:37
    Super generous guy and is willing to jump in there and fix a game on the fly.
    290:47
    Looks like Shawn is getting ready to go as Roy gets the glass back on. Oh, and he provided a couple of rare games for the most recent Arcade Legacy Mega Match. Which games were Royy's? I think he had an Indiana Jones, right? And was it a Was the Firepower Hair? I suppose that's not rare.
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    Oh, the Star Wars. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun. I actually really love that game. That was I I think I won every game I played on Star Wars Trilogy. I I had a great time with that. All right, Bicycle Girl going for that under the left ramp shot. And that's an easy tilt, unfortunately. Not hard to do on this game. Maybe not even wholly necessary on that, but he was trying to make sure he kept it in and ended up with a tilt. So, we'll go to Jeremy Ryan's first ball.
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    There you go. We can find out from the man himself. Hello, Sean.
    292:02
    I was having stomach issues because I'm on these new medicines. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what we said. It was probably bathroom break or food break, right? Uh, half a bathroom break. We'll call it that. Uh, I'm just glad I had to wait for Roy to uh fix the game. Paul fix you. Well, he was fixing it. So, I was like, "All right, well, I guess I'm waiting some more." Yeah, that's worth waiting for. So, we were talking about that tilt there. The tilt looks really tight. I mean, yeah. I And now I'm debating like, did I have to do that? I don't know. But, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's it's it's it is very tight. I mean, Justin was saying it earlier, but I mean, we're at Eric, so I expect tight tilts and and and difficult games. So, yeah, this is a hallmark of Eric's tournaments as you're always going to have tight tilts, man. That one on Kong is exceptional. It's perhaps over the line, one might say. Uh, some might say it's Game of Thrones is over the line, too. But, you know, but otherwise, I mean, Game of Thrones tends to run really long, so I am grateful for that one. The The Kong is maybe I don't know. Ask ask Scott later about his uh 90 point ball one of Game of Thrones when he tilted. Brutal. I did not know that Eric did that to his games. So uh the reaction was I wish that was on camera. There's Doug's mean mug. He likes to mean mug the camera right before he starts. I can't argue too much if I'm still technically first place after that ball. I mean if you need more proof that this game is set up hard, right? Yeah. Oh no. He's going to get that back. Barely barely. If it was a second later the ball save the ball saves are turned way down. Yeah. Across the board. Well, not as bad as uh Mando. Oh, Mando is so quick. Is it just zero? It's not zero, but it's not nothing. And especially on the multiballs. The multiballs you get maybe 5 seconds of ball save. Yep. Better get your work in fast. We saw that on Kong, too. The multiballs would end almost immediately. I'm just thankful we found out at the garage this week what the real comp mode is for Kong and it wants to set ball one on the hard locks for multiball. Oh, okay. And that's ridiculous. It's two drop sets for ball one, three drop sets for ball two, and then I think four ball set drops. Yeah, Jesse and I looked at it and like this is what the com mode is setting into. And that's like that's not right. nine sets of drop targets to start multiball. And that's when we were like, we're not doing that. No, that's nuts. That's nuts. Cuz that's what it's supposed to be for your second multiball after you do one already. Wow. But yeah, that they were trying to do that on the first one. It's like we ain't No. I was saying earlier, I feel like there's way too much focus on the drops in that game that based on the rules. But the rules make you play the drops. They make you play the drops a lot, but they're like the drops are cool, but they're not that fun. They're not. I enjoy the occasional sweep, but it's not like it should be the center of the game versus rules of the game. That's kind of sometimes. Well, I mean, if it was like a really cool fun thing to do and you had to do it a lot, it'd be great. But it's like clearing the drops from the left, it's okay. The fact that you have to do it for every important thing that happens in the game. I don't like that you have to do it again in the middle of your multiball. Right. Right. Exactly. All right. So, he's got prison here. Or I think he's got I thought he started prison. Maybe that was just leftover ball save from his start. Oh, I see. Uh-oh. There's two. I better go. That's out. That's out. Oh, brutal.
    295:24
    I think the drops into the orbit is one of the most cool features in recent pinball. Okay. Say more about that. So, the drops into the right orbit to start on the pro. Is that what you're thinking of? Or shooting the drops and then picking up the left orbit on the way. Cuz I do love that. Sweeping the drops into the left orbit is very cool. And I love the sideways oriented drops. So, I think it's really neat.
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    BFR says massive jump in difficulty from the first multiball to the second multiball with some of the multiballs on modern turns. For sure. For sure. And Sean was just talking about that that it even if you don't take their competition mode with nine to start your first, you still have to do a ton of work to get the second. # ton of work. Am I on? You're on. Oh, I'm already. Yep, you're good. Left orbit feels so good after hitting drops. It It definitely does. It feels amazing. And I love that you get a sweet bonus for hitting those on the way to the left orbit. I love the biplane shot. I was saying that earlier. I love shot. So satisfying. It's got a little bit of like an Indiana Jones hint in it with that like swirly pattern. Do you think with the biplane and the ramp and the the wire for you? Okay. Hint slash It's totally ripped off. Either way, we all know we all know that uh uh Mr. Keith likes his homage. Would you like to come back on, sir?
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    Yeah, the chasm. Being able to go through the chasm both ways and like underneath the ramp is really cool. Wait, wait, wait. What game are we playing right now? Sorry, I should be talking about the one we are watching. This is The Walking Dead. Ball three. Ball three. Mean mugging us is Doug Kaendall. Nobody has a real big game going. Nobody has a real big game. I grew up with a Kikond doll. That's a cool last name, isn't it? Cool. Yeah. Not as good as Mastersonson, but I mean, what is Am I right? Doug always gives us that mean mug, and I love it. This is that. Now, look at that. That 1.5 mil could be the winning shot. That's how low the scores have been so far. A ball save. Ball save. Oh, where was that ball save coming from? Where was that? That's the Lyman. That's the Lyman Grace. Wow. Lyman, thank you. Oh. Oh, it's coming back. It's safe. That's a pretty safe response feed. That was fun cuz with with the clear ramp, it almost looked like it was underneath the ramp and then just floated above. That was cool. Yeah, good call. Good pointing out. So, we see some more Weller. Weller for points. I assume nobody's done Weller multiball yet. Nobody's gotten a multiball going. Oh. Oh, how about half a million on the way out? Honestly, again. So, what is it? That could do it. Could be it. That could do it. 10 million is literally double like the next score. So, I like the way his sunflowers sparkle on the green screen effect. Wait, let me see it. Bring him in. Bring him in. Oh, yeah. Spark kind of sparkly. Rainbow magic. All right, he'll get that back. Rainbow magic. All right, come on, Carl. Carl, we need more Carl. Oh, that was safe. Good save. No tilt. Uhoh. Oh, I was going to say he's got that safe. He knows. He knows. All right. All the way. Gets it around the ramp. Very nice. How about a crossbow shot? Free shot on the CDC. Free shot on the You take it at CDC. That's what I would do. 1.5 mil. Again, that's big points right now. He's already at 9.5. Yeah, it makes a huge difference. Wow. With a game this low scoring. I mean, if he doesn't tilt, he could easily step over and take the lead here. See, he did the right thing. I would have drop catched that and probably would have fired it off into nothingness and he was into hope. Into oblivion. Yeah, exactly. Got to give him hope. That's all right. He made good on that. He's going to pass up Doug Kaiendall and pick up first place for now. Bonus. Yep. So 12 million's enough to pass Doug. We'll see if it's enough to keep Shawn and Jeremy from nipping at his heels. His sunflowers are less sparkly on that side of the screen. Yeah, you need the green screen to really make him pop.
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    Completes the lane. Goes through CDC, right? Pick up a million for me. That's the easy short shot. Did it Did it not count it? Did he hit nothing? I thought he hit the C. I thought he hit the CDC. Somehow didn't didn't get it. Uh maybe that's like my cue to not do that shot until it like goes all the way around again. Yeah, he did let it come all the way back before he shot it. Uh, so, okay, so this is Jeremy's chance to catch up to Shawn and the rest of them. Shawn is guaranteed third, might end up in fourth depending on what Jeremy does. And again, everybody's playing to stay in the A division, so this matters. And these are all tight scores. This is very achievable. Okay, he declined to take the bounce over. I respect it. Mhm. Oh, all right. So, he's on his way towards maybe multiball. 2x shot picks up a clear the yard shot. There's a piece. Yeah, that'll do. Picking up pieces. Oh, he doesn't he doesn't do that. He's a he's a fly a flow player on the fly player. He's he's got a 2x shot here. Does not catch it. Oh god. Okay, that's good though. That is good. 2 and a2 million for that. 2.5. That is so blingy. What's he at? What's he at? 12 1243. Yes. Yes. Did it climbed out from a deficit fast? Everybody on ball three really showed up. I mean, I don't mean to count chickens before they're hatched, but I'm sure his bonuses got it. Assuming he doesn't tilt. That's a tough assumption with this game. Yeah, I know, right? Kais, thank you for the follow. Wump it, thank you for the follow. He's got it. He did the thing. He got it. 13. Now, just don't tilt. I mean, I guess you could. It doesn't matter, but yeah, tilt it. Just do. Just do cuz it's fun. Just do it, man. Look at When he doesn't need it, it's there. It rolls right back in. That's awesome. W 2 million in his bonus, which to us looks like huge potatoes. Wow. So, that was it. Jeremy's going to walk away with it. Uh, let's see what that does to our final scores. How many of those people stayed at A? Uh, Sean is out. Well, let's I'm going to let the math do the math. I'm checking on some math of my own here. I think I might have done myself a disservice of kicking myself into B. Kais, thanks for joining us from France. Bonjour and bonis. Bonjour. Let's see. Grand Prix is still playing. That's Carlos, Chris Ross, and Junior. And uh they are going to have no impact on at least two of them will have no impact on the final top 16.
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    Okay, so that's the last Carlos and Ross Grand. Carlos and Ross will impact the top 16. You got to figure they're at 43. Both of them are going to at least get into a tie with Matt Goslin. Also, anybody in this group that doesn't make it through to A finals gets to sandbag Bals. That's true. Yeah. If you barely squeeze out of A, now you are B's biggest problem. That's all I'm saying. That's Yep. Because we do not we do not play them uh disqualifiers for a restrictions here. We don't do that. Yep. So, look here. Okay, Carlos and Ross, let's say they were to get one and two respectively, would go to 50 and 48, which would put them up here in the So, they can just all 10 to 11 space, right? I would like that better. Let them all be in A. Let them all eat cake in A. But that's going to mess up things for folks like Chad Hobbs and Elizabeth Gizki. Oh, Elizabeth and Ethan and Matt. Elizabeth was way higher before. She was like, she was up. She was up in the middle of a She's 442 and two. Look at this. Look at this nonsense. Scroll back up. Scroll back. Nobody played that many games. Scroll up. Scroll up. Oh, I got you. Hold on. Or Oh, wait. I could probably scroll myself up. What's wrong? Uh, can I do it? I can't do it. Wait. Yes, I can do it. I've got the No, I don't. Look at all these 44 points now. Everybody's Everybody's submitted their scores. So, now stop. It's going to be all these 44s playing together. Wait, please stop. Oh, me? Please stop. I thought you meant the machine. Look at this nonsense. How How on the planet so close green grass am I supposed to play in the the the the the turnney where I really want the trophy if I qualify for B. So close. No, I don't want to be in I don't want to be in A or B. I don't want to be in it. I wanted to be in the fun [ __ ] I know you'd rather be in C in our unofficial tournament. Yes, that's where I want to be. I might I might eat myself out of B in order to go fun and [ __ ] around. So, here's who's going to play for a tiebreaker is Matt, Ethan, Elizabeth, Chad, Jason. They're all going to have a fiveway tiebreaker. So, that's interesting for three slots. You you you see here, obviously, it looks like only Elizabeth and Ethan are in for the tie, but that Whoops, I did that terribly, but that's just how match play looks, right? But it's because they happen to have an equal Did it Did it move? Oh, yeah. It automatically it moves. It moves by itself. It does. Uh, so they have an an equal tie structure, but yes, anyone who has 44 points. Any significant ties will be done by a playoff. Jason, Chad, Elizabeth, Ethan, and Matt. And because we have five of them, that means we're going to have two games of pinball. And they're going to compare. Unless we play Baywatch. Oh, that's right. If we had Baywatch, we could. If only. It's a six player game. Yeah, I don't think we have any six players, do we? Does Dirty Harry play six? Uh, no. Probably not. That's a Williams. No, none of the games here play six players. No, that would have been cool. It's a bummer. Yeah, poor Bgroup about to get stomped. You should have started sandbagging sooner. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that's great. But I sand I actually I started sandbagging immediately because I was I got fourth and then third and then fourth. My first three rounds. I was like solid. Okay, this is that day. This is going to be that day. Yep. I kind of got excited about the bad play. No six player on Dirty Harry. No Dirty Harry six player. That's a bummer. What about a Scooby-Doo? Uhuh. No. Oh yeah, Scooby-Doo would let you do it. Noa tournament. Nowhere in France two whole months. Can you drive to Germany or something? Ouch. That's crazy. Ouch. Going last on Scooby-Doo gets the worst character. Really? Who seems rude? Who's the worst character? Who is the worst character? I feel like I'm guessing. No. No. How could she be the worst character? They always underplay her on the show. But that's because she's one of the best. Oh. Oh, you know what I'm saying? They they don't give her the cred she deserves. You have the king and then you have the hand of the king. I see. And well, maybe that's why she does want to be the worst character. You got to you got to keep your profile low. Fred. That's more like it. Fred is absolutely the worst. A vote in for Fred for sure. Or Scrappy. Scrappy really was Scrappy. What was that? Scrappy was probably a robot. That wasn't okay. Fred is great since you only need two locks on mystery machine. They finally figured out how to make Fred great by putting him in a pinball machine. Why don't we have any bonus pinball happening right now? Can someone get to go play? We're about to. Well, we're about to have our tiebreaker on one of those classics. Oh, yeah. And it's going to be two games of pinball so that we can get everybody to come before we can do the Yeah. Yeah. Uh I forget he had to Oh, really? Zer walked away midame on creature. Well, that happens. That happens. Walked away midame to like go do something else. Zer disappears. Zer. Uh, where does Zer go when he disappears? That sounds like such a metaphysical. Where do any of us go? Answer. We should be giving you something. Oh, big game. Or cheetah. We're playing Cheetah. I like it. I love it. Cheetah or big game. That's the tiebreaker for me. I love those. Both of those. Whoa. Whoa. Sorry, that was the wrong I accidentally pressed the wrong button. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Where's the Hold on. Do you want to press the cheetah? It doesn't work now. You're just pressing everything. I want I'll hit the cheetah. You want to hit cheetah button? I do. I'm looking for Atlantis. Argusy. Argusy. You were in the correct menu standing. Oh, your finger. Your finger was like Oh, yeah.
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    Can you outrun the cheetah of cheetah pinball? Please note this game is on updated code. Okay. When you plunge the ball, typically want to drop into the pops here so you can get these drop targets up top. Those drop targets will increase your end of ball bonus multipliers right here up to 5x. Also going around the playfield, you will see this collect bonus lane on the left. This is very valuable. In order to light that lane, you have to hit the five bank drop targets in the middle down in order. You have to do that twice. Once you do that, the collect bonus lane will light for one collect. After you've collected it, you need to hit down the five bank two more times to relight that. After you've lit the collect bonus lane with the five banks, other awards are given to you as you complete it more times. The next time it will max out your bonus. The next time after that, it will light the extra ball spinner lane up top here, which is worth points. After that, it will light the special lane over here to the right, which is worth points as well. This lane over to the right, if you ever land in here, will also spot you a target in the middle drop target bank. You can also spot those with the in lanes right over here. Next, the grid in the top right. If you hit down these drop targets up here, it will and you make a tic-tac-toe three in a row line, you will get various awards. You can light the left spinner. You can light the right spinner. You can light the top extra ball turnaround spinner. Or you can light the special lane over here. Finally, the drop targets on the right will advance your bonus and give you bonus X if you keep dropping them down. So, the key of the game is get your bonus in your bonus X all the way up and collect the collect bonus lane for 500,000 points. That's Cheetah. Don't be a cheetah. That's Cheetah. Play Cheetah. Cheetahs never prosper. That's right. That's Jason Gwyn there. So, we're going to see uh it it won't be the correct information up here, so maybe I'll take that down for a minute, but we're going to see our players play a four-person game. No, a three-person game and a two-person game. Three person, two person, two person, three person. Yep. Maths. Yep. I'll take that down so it's not confusing. This is Chad Hobbs. And we do have we do we have all the names? Uh yeah, it's Elizabeth, Jason, Chad, uh Matt Goslin, and who is our fifth? And we'll find out soon enough who's playing in what order. I could tell you here in a second.
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    Chad, Elizabeth, Ethan, Matt, Jason, Chad, and Elizabeth will be game one. Ethan and Matt will be game two. Uh, why isn't Jason player one? Or No, Jason already played. Yeah, he was player one. Oh, I see. What's up? And Chad is player two. Okay. All right. Can you bring me back to the screen so I can commentate properly? Yep.
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    Yay. I can see things. There you go. Yay. Okay. Now I can see what's happening. Now I will talk about Chad Hobs and his amazing Chad Hobby. The Chad hobbyist. What do you So I'm noticing it looks Oh, that was a good bump. Yep. It looks like he's thinking about completing the 1, two, three, four V. I assume so. That the spinner's so juicy on the right side. that can give you fast points. Nice. The problem is it can also absolutely drain you immediately. Don't say that. Don't say that as it's about to drain him immediately, right? It's dangerous. So, shooting the spinner is really tempting, but it it can mess you up. So, what's nice is you have three players here. There's three slots, right? So, if you if you win this one, you automatically make it in even if the other two people make it in. That's that's the kind of math I can believe in. Yep.
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    All right, Gizki. Come on, make us believers. Show us how it's done. See her whipping on the gloves, getting serious. She's such a great player and so fun to watch. She really like both of those things being incredibly true. Yep. Yes. So, she goes for a super hard plunge. You can see she already got two of those targets knocked down. She was going for the bonus multiplier. She was going for the triple plunge. And that bonus multiplier will carry ball to ball. So, it's super valuable.
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    The problem is if you're down on the flippers, you're going to have a hard time getting to it.
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    Oh, if you're up in the back, back up. Back up. Back up. Come on. Get back up. Get back up. Get back up. Get it. Get it. Nope. So, Chad already got his multiplier, it sounds like. Oh, that was good. Thank you for that, BFR. See how fast that is out of that turnaround shot. She handled it great. Yes. Clean re. And this Cheetah has been completely rebuilt and it has a brand new playfield on it. So, it is plays like glass. It does. It plays very very smoothly, very quickly. Yeah, this and big game are right next to each other and they both have brand new playfield. I'm going to Sam you again. I'll consider myself Sam. I forgot I'm supposed to be doing this. All right. She going for the spinner again. No, she's going for that drop. What is So, what are the position for that? I missed that in the mintorial. I forget what those do over there. Oh, good. Good drop catch. Hold on. I know you can score uh a value of like a lit value from maybe from the left. Oh, I was going to say, oh, I never shoot that. Now, now, now. All right, Elizabeth. Good start. 451. Builds bonus X as well. Okay, cool. So, 332, 606, and 451. These are all nice solid scores. Yep. Really good start for everybody. But it does remind you like what a big deal bonus is and what a big deal collecting on that left lane is. That left lane can be worth a ton once you nail down the drops. And nobody has X bonus yet. Nobody's got X bonus. You see this? Uh Chad should he's up here at 4x. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm You're right. You're right. I forgot about that. Well, it's super confusing doesn't have it yet. Super confusing. So, this would give him 4x. He's already at three. Do it. Oh, he's at four. All he's got to do is get He's interested in. So there's the four. Now he still needs one more drop to get the five. Yep. That would have been beautiful if he had managed to be hitting the If only he had been at four already and then hit the five. That would have been Oh, I see on the number. Sorry, I was thinking bonus X. I got you. So now he's lit for the left collect and he gets it. Oh, and he just gets it. Made that look easy, didn't he? Wow, that was just clean. Oh, then he hits he rips a solid spinner. Has Chad got a lot? Oh, man. He was making me nervous there. I feel like Chad is just Yeah, that was phenomenal today. He's he's hitting it. He was awesome last night. Obviously, he won last night's tournament. Yeah, he did phenomenal yesterday. He's doing phenomenal today. Yep. Look at that bounce. Friendly and back in. Chad is like the quintessential like like for me one of like the cheerleaders of the hobby. Oh, for sure. And so to see him also just side note blowing up games. Oh, look at that. I love it. For those who don't know, Chad publishes a zen here in town called Pin Heads, which he handdraws every cover. And if you're a subscriber, he handraws literally your cover, like your individual one. And then he puts junk, but he puts bonus junk in there. Everything from stamps to movie sales to random ads from the ' 60s. I've gotten Pokemon cards. Oh, I love it. Oh. Oh, almost picks it back up on the right flipper. Nice job. Yeah, he's over a million. That was great. Phenomenal ball. 4x bonus. 1.3 million with that big bonus. Nice. Elizabeth is at 2x. Looking for that three. Now watch. She's going to pull a two-handed plunge again. That's as hard as you can plunge. She gets two. She just needs that third one. Does not get it off the bumper there. I just held my breath. I know. Me, too. She's going for her two on the right or on the left rather. Nice. Okay. Does she want her two? It's easy to backhand it. Yep. It's very backhandable. Hit your two. Hit your two. Hit your two. Right here. Right here. This is the one you want. This is the drop target you are looking for. And unlike some of the games of the day that uh if you were to hit the wrong thing, you'd have to reset the whole bank to hit the right thing. This one you can just hit the right. It doesn't really punish you for hitting the wrong Yeah. Like Alien Poker.
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    Oh, how do I get out of this? There we go. Chad is absolutely making his case for a finals. He is playing some clutch pinball right now. That's going to be a hard score to come up and over for the other two players in this group, let alone anyone else in uh finals. I'm I'll be very excited to see more scores like that, dude. Oh, that's a heartbreaker. Jason Gwyn is going to finish. You never know. Third place. That could get him in. That could get him in. Not yet. It depends what everybody else does. Oh, I know. I know. I'm just saying we haven't seen what the last two players are doing. So, yeah. Now, this one's unique because you're playing your players, but you're also playing the invisible two players who haven't played yet. They're invisible, but only until they start playing. No, Chad ends up with the exact same fate. I'm still going to give Chad one of these. That was some clutch play here at the end of the at the end of the tournament. Oh, that's cool.
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    All right, Gizki. But you guys, she's like, and I'm going to go like that. That's where I'm going to go. All right. Now, it's possible all three of these players make it. It's possible that the other two players are lower than 445 and 050, but bounce over. Nice. Oh. Oh, no. Oh, no. No. Oh, everybody. Everybody's hanging out in that left out. That's just brutal. But there was enough like single flip on all as well. It may as well have been a I'm going to move our overlay below all these animations. So, we have one guaranteed placement out of that run and that is Chad Hobs. There we go. Nicely done, Chad. Not laser Q. Chad's going to move forward, but our new number is 44550. And the other number you have to beat is 757160 if you want to be if you want to be in it. For sure. For sure. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Thank you for capturing those BFR in the chat. Yeah, BFR is on point. Always, always, always on point. We appreciate 100%. Go Gaseki. All right, so now we have our other two players who are going to come up and give it a shot. Ethan and Matt. Ethan's going to go first. And then Matt Goslin. And Matt's going to give us, you already know, he's going to give us his super serious face. He is. I played Ethan yesterday and lost to him on Grand Prix, maybe. Oh, no. We were having a battle on Grand Prix. That's what it was. We were having a battle and I think I ended up pulling it out, but it was close. And then Matt Goslin, he's also a fantastic uh repair person. He knows how to do board work. So, he gets called on a lot around here. If you know how to fix boards, Oh, that's phenomenal. Fine electronics. Um, and he also is an exhibitor. He does boards more than just pinball. He'll just help us do board work. All kinds of stuff. Uh, old arcade games I think are kind of a specialty. Yep. Um, trick boxes. Yep. and he brings a bunch of parts to Cincinnati and has like a table. So, for people who are looking for vintage parts, you can't find anywhere. What? I never knew that he did that. Yep. Ethan, I don't know as well, but I'm really glad he's here. We've got them. Yep. Thank you. So, I will put the scores up in the
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    in the little black box here so everybody knows what we're looking at. He's working on it. He's doing the thing. He's doing the thing. So, is this the view that they can see or is this the view that they can see? This one. Okay, this is the view. Well, that would make sense. All right. So, and come Oh. Oh, Ethan. Gosh, I know Ethan. Silly me. I don't know Ethan. This is the first time I think that we've played perhaps. Um, he's lovely. He's great on stream. Absolutely delightful on stream. Go Ethan. Nice. Oh, I like if that's the strat. If that Oh, that was a good double flip save. If the strat here is going for those drops or that that roundabout spinner, I kind of like it. He and I were talking about how juicy that spinner. Do you see those bounces? Did you see those keeping them alive bounces, y'all? I know. I was too busy typing stuff. No, you're fine. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to my friends in chat here. You're busy. I understand. He's doing these great like popup like he saved that from going out out skis twi like two or three times at least. Oh, he couldn't stop that one. He couldn't stop the last one. That was amazing. All right. So, I put our numbers there in the uh box. That was really So, so Ethan was just going pop
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    like and Yeah. Well, you know how the ball gets up here. Oh, for sure. Oh, no. No, that's not the one. Uh, okay. Can you Oh, Maddie has a fumble. Can you get my screen again? cuz apparently I can't draw on this one. I got you. And I'll bring up your drawing one over here. Yay. The drawing one. Yeah. So, what Ethan did was the ball was hanging out over here and he just kept popping up up up trying to get it to go where he needed it to. Oh, it was fantastic. Yeah, I love that. And he didn't let up until the ball finally came back in. Oh, see, I like this. I like that roundabout. It's so many points. He's using it. You either I like those shots where if you miss, you still get something good. See? Oh, he finished. That's what he did. He hit the completion. He hit the bonus X. It looks like he hit the bonus X completion. Although I do not see any completion lights. Did he not complete this? Is that not the bonus X? Uh did not complete. What? Then why did I don't know how that's possible. Why did they go back up? I don't know. I'm confused. I honestly don't know. It's a great question. Maybe anybody in chat understands what just happened. Is there a way to reset the bonus targets up top without completing them? Weird.
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    Well, no. He knocked two down on the back, but he doesn't have a bonus like he knocked the last one.
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    [Music] That's why. So, we just we just learned a thing that we didn't really realize was happening. It's got to happen. Okay. So the first the first finish is not 2x. It just starts to light the the the completions. And then once again, Ethan found this area up here and just bounced it clean. Super smart. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I love this. He's hitting this shot over and over. Yes. Yes. I don't know why I'm loving that so much. That is the turnaround shots. Look at that. Just making it. Making it. This is why I'm not good at pinball, cuz my shot goes like that.
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    Yeah. So, Eric clarified that that you're right. It just shows you what you're going to get, not what you did get. So, and we didn't understand. I didn't understand that in my last game because I thought I'd finish 2x, but when I finished, I only had 10k in bonus and I was like, wait, it was just one completion instead of two. Yeah, it was two completions gives you 2x. So, that makes that makes math sense. He has cleared the last chance threshold of 445. Okay. Ooh, 786. And he has cleared the guaranteed. So, he is guaranteed to get in. He's in. Well, that's that's nice to have after ball two. Along with Chad Hobs, right? Yep. Chad Hobbs and Ethan are officially in. Ethan is in.
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    Everyone else is coming to this realization. You can hear him. Yep. It's up to Matty Ice now to figure it out. Lock in on Cheetah and get to He does have his 2x. He's one one of these away from 3x. So, he's got to be what? Oh, did that just reject on him? I swear it actually hit it, but it didn't go down. Oh, look at that. Look at that smile. Yeah, that's a smile of somebody who knows they're already in.
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    I'm always curious. I'm like, is this person I'd always take the practice personally unless you think you're so chill and so cool that you don't need to quote practice. Mhm. Did that again. Is he going to do it again? Oh no. I think he was going for the drops. Yeah, I think he was going for the drops, right? Oh no. Yep. So now Matt has to pull ahead of Elizabeth, right? Yeah. He has to not only get past the 445, but on this ball, he has to get past the 757. Oh, to put Elizabeth out. There's one spot remaining. Elizabeth currently owns it. Jason is guaranteed out. Matt's got his 3x already. He's going for 4x. I mean, if assuming that he gets back up there, but 3x is pretty nice for bonus. 757160 is the only number that matters to Matt now. Oh, he's hitting his drops. Maybe maybe he saw that Ethan's uh strat was nice and he's thinking I could do that, too.
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    Yes. Look at He is He went backhand. He went backhand up to this area here. Yep. He's got He's got 3x already. So, now build some bonus. The problem is he doesn't have a lot of bonus. He's only got 20,000 lit. Does I'm assuming hitting that spinner. Dude's making me nervous. Oo, that was good. Now we need some drops. We need to build some bonus. He's not He's not having like like Good job. That was beautiful. Oh no, it's not enough. So sorry that is unfortunately for Matty Ice going to be the end of his run. And we are going to see Elizabeth Gizki, which is exciting. Yep. And Chad Hobbs and Ethan. Yeah. In our finals. How do you say Ethan's last name? Uh Ethan. It's Ethan. Ethan, right? Like Duran Durant. Yeah, Duran Duran. Like Ario. Ario. And uh Jason and Matt are going to move to the B division. So they're not done playing pinball today. Shucks. That means I have to play against them. 6:30. 6:30. Okay. So Elizabeth made it through. Chad made it through. And Ethan made it through. Chad. Yep. So, what that means, friends, is we're going to take a quick break. Well, a little bit of a longer break. We're going to come back at 6:30. We're not going to stop streaming. We're just going to go to a screen and come back at 6:30 to start our A division finals. As I mentioned, there's a bunch of stuff we have to set up to make that happen. Uh, so we've got about an hour break. Please don't go anywhere. Let it run in the background. Go throw some laundry in. Sam, your best friend. and we'll see you when we get back. Don't go anywhere. We'll see you guys at 6:30 for our finals. See you guys soon.
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    Okay, that's One of us of we accept of us. One of us of us. Hello. Hello everybody. Welcome back after a little break to get our final set up. Let's go back to Well, hopefully we can go back to uh bringing up the correct people. I think this one. Let me interact with this one and see if we can get the correct finals up, don't you think?
    383:02
    Evan, what's up, man? We're getting ready to uh to start and bringing up our
    383:11
    finals. Let me see if I can get the right thing in here. Then we can watch it. Believe it or not,
    383:19
    we're going to follow one group in uh in the A division. I think we're going to probably follow Trent's group. I think that's where that's going. Again, I'm letting Eric call the shots on this one.
    383:36
    Let's see if I can get the right group up and then we can follow them around. I know they're playing Stars. I think they're playing King Kong. I just don't know where they're starting.
    383:54
    It looks like they may be starting on You're very welcome. Let's see. Is this the B? That's the B division. Let me find the A division finals.
    384:18
    We're just getting our finals launched, so bear with us while we bring up all the important stuff. Eric's moving us into place, and we are going to follow, at least at first, our A division. Sometimes on the B division, we will go there when we have uh you know some people on the bubble or we're coming down to like a final match or something.
    384:42
    Frank, where did you end up in the standings today? Uh pretty much at the bottom at the But you had a great showing yesterday. Yeah. Sometimes that's how that works. Yeah. I had to pay for that today. Yeah, sometimes they make you pay for doing well. Well, we get to watch some pretty exciting finals and uh this is the best seat in the house, so you've come to the right place. Yep. I'm a firm believer in that. Uh let me see. Do you know who got to pick? Um I don't know who picked the games. My guess is Trent because he was the first seed. Yeah. Yeah, that would make sense. And then whoever came in second, I'm guessing, picked order, or at least the first of the orders and then the second. And then whoever's in fourth uh got the third choice of order. So, we're going to start out on King Kong with I don't think it's going to be that group. I think we have to manually go to the group that it is going to be because I think we're going to follow Tren's group around. Let me see. I think it's going to be this group.
    385:55
    So for that machine, I do remember it is incredibly touchy. You can look at it funny and it will tilt on you. Not just warn you, it will just straightdeed through. Yes, indeed. And I want these players to be able to start their game, so I won't play the tutorial. But for those who haven't seen this game, it's got it's got a whole lot of code. There's a lot you can do. The short version is you can start a pit multiball if you hit that enough. You can start a the overall King Kong multiball if you drop these drop targets two times, shoot up the center three times, and then hit a right orbit. And then you'll also see that if you want to start modes, you have to hit these blue lights all over the playfield until that mode is qualified right here. So that's the short version of it. This one has um that is a rough start. The skill shot where you drain it into the out lane, I think it gives you It gives you extra seconds of ball safe. And yeah, there's five million or two. Five skill shots that I know of. You can hit the pit. That's a really common one. You can hit any of these three outlan. They're all different skill shots. Or you can pitch it up here and try and hit that ramp. Yeah, that's another sort of super skill that is kind of hidden in the game. I feel like I made one where you just get it onto the flipper without hitting the slings and get it up the airplane. One that does something. That That may be one, too. I mean, Keith is uh famous for hiding skill shots everywhere. So, there's a great biplane shot by Roy Richie. Those biplane shots will add up to a biplane mode as well. Do we know any of which one of the regular modes are the most lucrative or what they will be going for? Um, my guess, so what I've seen is a lot of people are going for save Anna. Yeah, that's what I've seen. That seems to be really good. Left ramp and then biplane. Okay, that sounds like a good one.
    387:55
    I would love to pin this in the chat, but I don't know how. Not that way. I can tell you.
    388:05
    Soon as I figure out how to pin the uh the match play link up there, I will. Normally, it's just available for me, but it's not right now because I don't think you are in mod mode, right? I assumed I would be, but I don't know. Or maybe because there is already something pinned. Yeah, could be. Let me unpin that and see if that helps.
    388:31
    Now, can I pin you now? Maybe. No. You're watching Carlos de Lasera, who is feeling, I think, like most people who play this game. What the heck just happened? It's been a really quick game for most people. There is very little flexibility on the tilt, so you don't get a whole lot of say if that ball starts going wild. There's not a lot of ways to influence it. That right, that right out lane is hungry and cannot be satisfied.
    389:13
    Which also makes it interesting trying to get it through that side gate and because you can't move it there once it goes to the left. Yeah. Right. So I think one of the reasons that he has it set up so hard is because of that option. Right. If you are able to nudge it hard enough, you can knock it back into play from here. Similar to Jaws just on the other side. But, uh, Eric doesn't want you to nudge it back in because that means really long games. The problem is now we're having these incredibly short ball times. Super skills. There's one of the super secret skills. What the fudge? Yeah, I think that's probably exactly what he said verbatim. All right. Has the opportunity to sweep those drops. You can get a little sweep bonus as Gregory Kennedy was pointing out earlier. sweeping like that and then hitting the left orbit feels so good. And then he completed for a super sweep combo, that combo puts him in the lead. Like that combo is worth 10 million points. Oh wow. So on a lowcoring game that we've seen so far, that combo is a big deal.
    390:19
    Yeah, if you can get the emote started and probably the easiest multiball to get is really the the spiders or monster or whatever you call that, um that puts you in a really really good position because it gives you also extra ball save time for sure. And there's there's some points available on these like they're not bad, but if you can pair it with a mode, there's big points available on those modes. So he did choose the Stegosaurus. So that's a popular choice. It has been, especially with multiball. Mhm. How do you qualify the video mode, the dead eyee? I've seen this couple time played underneath that right upper flipper, but I don't I don't know. No, it seems to be awarded over on the mystery shot in the cave, but uh I'm not sure how to qualify it. Maybe you guys online know.
    391:10
    Noted it a tiny little bit and there you go. You get your tilt. But still a really good ball for Ethan. I mean, he he created some space between him and the crowd with that 38 million. And that uh that 10 million point combo really helped.
    391:24
    Ah, okay. So, on this pro machine, once you get to that first G, once you complete the word king with various achievements throughout the game, then that qualifies it and you can go collect it for dead eyee mode. Is that actually worth it? Is it valuable? No, it's not worth much. At least not in this version of the coat, but it sure is fun to watch. Yes, I don't know. Some people complain that it's boring. I think it's really cool. It's very unique. Yeah, we haven't seen much of it. There is a mode apparently in Congo that I have never gotten to uh where if you hit maps enough then you can or map you spell the map enough then you can uh start a similar mode. You got 50 mil off a dead eyee. You must have been absolutely on point. I guess it's worth practicing, huh?
    392:20
    So, you can see these are getting a little bit more valuable every time Roy completes one. He gets another biplane ramp. So, he only needs one more to start his biplane mode. He was smart not to nudge that. I I know it must be tempting to try and nudge that back in, but he was smart not to do it. We have seen a bunch of tight tilts this weekend. Um especially the newer machines uh tend to happen incredibly tight.
    392:55
    There we go. There are a number of inexplicable differences between the Pro and the Premium. And I'm I'm sure there's some wisdom to it. But why do you take the right orbit shot on the Pro to start the multiball, but on the premium you just lock it? I don't know. That seems arbitrary to me, but maybe there's some wisdom to it. By playing more like I know Los is feeling the same way we all are. What the heck? just potentially with more colorful language in his head, but it's pretty tight. So, there is opportunities for everybody to to take the win still. So, well, if you do what Ethan did and you're able to get a few good mode shots in, a few clever shots that get you those combo points, those king combos. Mhm. Uh, it can be the difference between winning and losing. Is there a playfield multiplier somewhere on there? There is. is. So, there's a bunch of little spot targets that you can hit. Sort of like Iron Maiden. Oh, okay. They kind of look like this one. If you hit these things all around the playfield, you can start up a 2x multi.
    394:06
    Goes for a center shot, falls just shy, and has to save it. Saves twice. Two nice saves in the middle. Two nice saves. And it did not kill him. No. Oh, he got a free outlane roll over there.
    394:24
    Makes sense. So, how much did that net him? [Music] Let's see. Total is going to be 13. So, still a lead by Ethan, although Roy is nipping at his heels, just a couple million behind. So, Ethan's really going to want to start a something. Start a something here. Get some mode points going. He already has one drop target completion. could do another one. I think he's only one shot away from the spider multi. What? Dude, what are you supposed to do about that? You get the right shot on the pit and it just punishes you. Yeah. Unbelievable.
    395:06
    Yeah, Ethan was just telling me the same thing. The reason is because there's no way to lock the ball and hold it. That's why they did it that way. That's why there's a difference in starting the multiball, which makes total sense. I just assumed that there would be a way to to trap it on the pro uh off the center ramp, but alas there is no
    395:30
    so and let's see. Yeah, it's going to be Yeah, he he plucks in. So Ann lights a whole bunch of shots all over the playfield and he got his way to do it. That's how you do that. That's going to put him in a really good position. I think so, too. I think he's going to end up in a comfy position here if he can make even just a few of these mode shots. Well, plus it looks like the mode, some of the modes and the multiball. Oh, that ball save was short. I was about to say they double up. So, if you make a few of them, you get jackpots. Yep. Now, that was a super short ball save. And that's true on this machine. And they're keep, you know, Eric is keeping all the ball saves really short. So, he's picking up a little bit of save and points there. Obviously, they get more valuable the more of them you hit. Yep. And then I think, is this the one where you collect them at the gong? Where you build them up and save and then collect at the I do I do I thought so at least. Okay. All right. Let's see. Love that wrong turn. That's so fun. Surprise turnarounds. I'm a sucker for a surprise turnaround. Can you backhand the um the the gong shot on this one? Which Can you backhand the gong shot on this? Oh, for sure. For sure. It's the safest way to get there. All right. And you can do it from a trap. You don't have to send it out to the tip of the flip or anything. Very nice. He uh does also manage to start a 2x playfield, which is obviously going to be super helpful right now while you're in the middle of a mode. Do we know what this 173,000 mystery signifies? No. They all keep getting it. And I have no idea why that number. I don't know if that was somebody's lucky number or that's how much that's probably an insider joke at that stern or whatever. Yeah.
    397:19
    Can an ape weigh 173 kilos? Is that a lot? I don't know. No, I would imagine Kong weighs a lot more than that. Yeah, it's probably true. 1973, that could be it. Did King Kong come out in 1973? I thought that is older. Weren't they black and white? Some of them. I feel like it's Oh, look at this. That's going to put him in a really good position. Oh, 173,000 is a reference to nineball. Wow. Keith is pulling out the deep cuts. All the deep cuts. Yeah. All right. So, Roy had a really nice finish there at 132 million. He really took advantage of those mode points. in the save and mode points. Mhm. I'm sure that playfield multiplier helped quite a bit. So, the max value of a stand up in nineball is 173. That is a deep cut, Keith Elwin. Deep cut, my friend. All right, he picks cross the chasm. All right, let's get those shots. He's got a 2 million point shot already. There you go. Now, if you do it right, just like he did, you can loop these. Yep. Boom. which makes sense. I mean, he has superior ball control. So, if Oh, and as I say, it's a commentator curse. I know. It's so hard to to fix this problem. Look, he gets it over to the left flipper. It just goes so fast off the ricochet. He can't can't pick it up and it's straight down the middle. I don't I don't know that you're stopping that one. No. So, he's going to finish at 42, which is just a little bit behind player one. Guaranteed third place on that one,
    398:57
    but could be a fourth if Trent pulls ahead. Boom. How about a mode? Let's see what he's going to pick. I love these sort of meta moments where they put you in the theater watching King Kong, you know? That's really fun. Same with the New York City events. They actually have King Kong there in chains and you have to try and I guess free him. Oh, that is not a mistake you're going to see often from Trent Hog. No, really unusual for him. He has been impeccable today. Um I mean, yeah, he came in first. So, Los is going to end up in third, Trent in fourth, Roy in first, and Ethan in second. Really nice job by Ethan after what has been, you know, kind of a frustrating machine. Yes. Um I mean he knocked it out of the park with the last one. Yeah. And Los made a great run at him. It was just one great shot short. Yep. Now this is different than the previous rounds. We're looking at 4210 Papa style points. That's correct. Yeah. So that first place finish really does give you an advantage in this. Absolutely. In a way that we didn't see during the qualifying rounds. Right. Welcome to the 100 of you who have chosen to join us on this Saturday afternoon for the Northern Kentucky Open 2025. This is a matchplay tournament. We are in the finals and we're following one or the quarterfinals rather. We're following one team from the A division to watch them go through their three games. All of the teams, all 16 players, four teams are going to go through their quarterfinals and then we will eliminate half of them. We'll take the other two teams into our semis. We'll eliminate half of them and then we will take the final four into our finals. So, and I can put our lower third back up because we're actually I've been I haven't put our names up because people keep switching in and out of the chairs all day, but I I can put those. Well, if somebody else wants to come in and be color commentator, um they're certainly welcome. I don't know, Frank. I like having you here, too. Glad to be here. Let me actually put our names back. If I can't at least play, I may as well say something about it, right? Yeah. What did we say before? We said those who can't watch and those who really can't commentate.
    401:23
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    402:49
    Hopefully, it won't get in the way up here. really glad to have you. Thank you so much. And hype train is started. So if you've ever thought you might want to throw a few bits our way, now is a good time. Also a good time to gift a sub if you've never done that. Uh we're good on Rocky and Bullwinkle. Thank you. Is this the second game for for this group or are we watching some other group? That's So we're going to watch this group again. Let me give you a quick tutorial on this one cuz I don't want to slow them down with tutorials right now. Uh, essentially on Rocky and Bowwinkle, what you're going to see most people doing is trying to fill this thing up so that they can go for the multiball. The multiball is going to be easier to get if you just combo the ramps that to fill that up and then get it started. Um, I think on the right ramp. Does that sound right? Um, I did combo them during a game that I had like four or five times. That was not enough, but I may have missed something in between. If you've already run it once, it won't do it. Have you already run the multiball? Oh, okay. Okay. So, we'll see Ethan lead us off here. You might recognize the order stays the same once they've picked their order. And most players will try to combo, but I don't You're right. I don't know the exact number of combos required to light that. And he already got the multiball. There you go. Maybe it's just one then. So, that's a that's the easy way to start the multiball. I think you're going to see most players go for that right off the bat. You can also get a hat trick here and pick it up on the left side. Also, during multiball, if you complete the hat trick, you can add a ball. And this is a rare game. And then it has unlimited add balls. Now, he had a rough multiball there, but can restart that multiball. He just needs to get up that right ramp. There we go. And perfect job. Combo left to right. Restart that multiball. Those are the safest shots on the game. So that's what you should be going for because they feed safely back to the flipper and they're fairly generous, right? Yeah. And it's not going to do a two ball restart. It's doing a full restart which is really nice. So where are the jackpots sitting? Are they sitting on the ramps as well? The jackpots's on the right ramp and then it moves to I don't know where it moves after that middle shot possibly. It might be. It might be that mystery shot in the middle. The left ramp adds value to the jackpot. Right ramps collect the jackpot.
    405:11
    So he has still the double check bud ready, but nope. No. Oh, he ends up with a frustrating center drain. He was just kicking it to the left out lane for some safety and then unfortunately it came right back down the middle. That's always a problem. You see the timer counting down and get giddy and that's where you start making errors especially when you didn't get the jackpot you wanted and you feel like I need to do something here. Is there a chance to restart the jackpot? uh the multiball again or was that it? I think you get one restart. I don't recall seeing I don't mean an immediate restart. Kind of like next ball, can he qualify the multiball again? Yeah, I think he's going to have to start from scratch though. I don't think you get to do the the ramp trick twice. Okay. So, the way to restart the multiball again now is to use these colored spot targets all around the playfield to build up this thing until it's all the way full and then shoot the right ramp to start. So, it's a lot more work the second time and a lot more dangerous because you're going to get probably some erratic bounce back. For sure. For sure. I mean, it's almost like once you've done that first multiball, do you want to maybe play some modes and then you're naturally going to get some of those spot targets? Yes. Yeah. So, BFR, the question came up. Thank you for that. The question uh also was what can Can you I don't know why Trent went third.
    406:34
    I don't know why Trent went third. Unless they agreed on some kind of different order. Maybe maybe they did it bec Maybe they did it because of the way they finished. They're not going to hold position. They're going to go in reverse order perhaps. So winner down to Yeah. Oh, okay. Yep. So he does have a set player order for each game. So, I just need to rearrange, refresh it. I've done it differently. I've done it where you're in the same spot through the whole finals. This is not that. So, let's move our game to that game and see if that changes.
    407:18
    Hold on. Not that one. Definitely not that one. Here you go. So, okay. So, we do have a set order for each, but it is not the same every time. Tell Eric he's wrong, please.
    407:37
    So, he's definitely going for the restart. He is banging on those little standups.
    407:48
    So, he's going to fill it up. Fill up that color wheel at the top. 15 million on the right ramp available. Picks it up.
    407:58
    Yeah, just keep looping them. Yeah, why not? He goes up the middle for Moose and Squirtle. Oh, there's the spin and win. So, so that's one that's kind of a random number depending on when you hit it. Similar like the space shuttle stop and score. Ah, well, but it doesn't really matter. Five to 20 million or something like that. how low that it seems to be scoring so far. That is a nice chunk. Yeah, either way you'll take it. So 113. Good finish for Trent. That's why Eric's the goat. No cap. I'm sorry. I don't speak Jen. What gen is that? Is he?
    408:52
    So, I think he's going for that easy multiball start, the combo start.
    409:01
    Comes up a little north on that one. Mhm. This was already the second try. It's a little bit off today. Yep. Yep. There we go.
    409:17
    or as they called it tri. But do you know why they called it triball ball? Three balls. Well, yeah, but they didn't call it multiball because uh Williams had the patent on that the trademark. They trademarked it with firepower. So, for a while there you couldn't use it. And then they went out of business and you know, nobody Yeah. Now he's going to lose his other multibo ball on the right out lane. Picks up a checkpot on the way. Little jackpot on the way out, which means he's not going to get a restart opportunity. Soon as you get a jackpot, that goes away. All right, hat trick is lit on the left.
    410:00
    He says, "No, I'd rather I'd rather play some ramps." Moose is loose. Well, it's pretty forgiving. Even if you catch a half ramp, it doesn't seem to be too intent to kill you. Yeah. Yeah. And this is half a million points per shot hit. So, not per switch hit, but per shot hit.
    410:23
    Not a bad ball. He's going to end at 72. Yeah, that's a good good spot to be for the next ball. Yep. All right, Ethan. See what he can do. He was our leader in both the first and second games.
    410:45
    Got a bounce out and no skill shot. Are the super popups worth anything actually? Yeah, they're they're okay. Uh you'll see a lot of people pick them right off the plunge. They're okay. The pops are really responsive, so if you get stuck up there, it can be worth a lot, but I haven't seen people really making a bunch of points on super pops today. For real. For real. Huge.
    411:11
    Oh, again with that center drain. Just brutal. So, yeah. Well, I stand corrected. I just said, "Oh, yeah. It doesn't seem to be intent to kill you." And it proceeds to kill her. The perfect half ramp down the middle. Yeah.
    411:27
    So, you got the mystery select. So, that's worth getting. That mystery in the center can be really helpful. You can see that blinking orange arrow right in the middle. And in case you're tracking that mystery, it lights up here where you see select. So, it's ready now. And then as you hit different shots, it's going to light again.
    411:52
    Uh-oh. Good job. Nice. That looked almost calm. I don't know how he did that calmly. Uh-oh. Good. Nice nudge into a clean right in lane. How about a multiball?
    412:12
    Roy is a mainstay at the Thursday night tournaments at Arcade Legacy as well as a pinball mechanic in his own right and uh runs his own company, Silverball Sales and Service and teaches all of us how to fix pinball machines. So, and he has some really nice examples out there on location that he restored completely. Yeah, his Indiana Jones plays so well. I really love that machine. Did you get a chance to play his taxi? No. Uhuh. It's out at Jesse's. Is it? How long's it been out? It has been a few months. So Oh, if that was his, then I've played it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it's just pristine. Of course. Of course it is. Another center drain for a total of 45 million, which is not going to be enough to pull ahead of our players one and three, Ethan and Trent,
    413:13
    if I remember my numbers. Mysteries lit in the middle. Oh, it's not enough to pull ahead of player four either. Carlos,
    413:25
    if you're not familiar with Carlos Deosera Laserlos, uh, then you've never seen competitive pinball before because I have never seen a more prolific streamer or player than he is.
    413:45
    So instead of looping, he's picking the 10 times bonus multiplier, I guess, for his mystery select. Thank you for that follow, Sebastian. I didn't think that that was a very bonus heavy game. No, maybe he's trying to make it into one.
    414:05
    I know Trent knows his rules, so he must he must have a plan. All right, Moose is loose. Well, he was swapping forth and back a couple of times, so I guess he didn't like either option. Yeah, there's 500,000 for every shot hit. So, he's up to 7500 already. And no, he shated his way out. What a bummer. But he is in a good position. So, well, 3 million, right? Yeah. I mean, it's not nothing. So, let's see where it gets him. 128. So the gauntlet is thrown for Los and he has a few shots to No, only two or three to get back into the multiball. Mhm. He's got a yellow. He's got a blue. Let's see. Two yellows and a blue. Mhm. Quite doable. You see all these two million point pops? So that's where it gets really valuable, right? When you get stuck up there getting a whole bunch of pops, it becomes really valuable. So that already put him at 112 just by getting stuck at the top. And you saw the first thing he did was getting back up. Back in the pops. Yeah. So great, great call. I haven't seen that strategy used a ton today, but it certainly is valuable. That was definitely a shot for the mystery select. There we go. Yeah, there it is. Mystery score. That may get him over. There we go. Million. All right. Oh, and that's exactly what he needed to to go ahead. That was perfect. He picked his mystery score immediately drained. Had he picked the other thing, he would have been in second place. We do have still a ball to play. We still got a ball to play. Sorry. I got all excited. You want to be from a psychological standpoint, you want to be ahead, right? Yep. I got all excited.
    415:56
    So, those super pops were worth half a million per hit and did not pay off the same way that they did for Lowe's.
    416:07
    Moose is loose. He definitely has a few shots that he has to make for multiball. At that point, I'm not sure if you even like I think the strategy that you outlined, just go for modes and hope you get a few on the way. Yeah, he's getting half a million for every pop hit there in addition to the value of the pop hit. A look at that. That was a really fast bounce. No saving that. straight off of that spot target. That's going to be hard to come back from for anybody.
    416:41
    So, that'll wrap Ethan up on this game at 73 million. Royy's sitting comfortable on four points right now, but he wants to follow that up with at least a second, I would imagine.
    417:01
    No, that thought twice. Decided to go. Nope. For a second. For a second. One of us. Thank you for that sub, Sebastian. One of us. Thank you. And again, y'all, you can subscribe once a month for free if you have Amazon Prime to any Twitch channel. Why not make it ours? We would love the support. And if it's not going to be us, support somebody else in competitive pinball because man does it help the hobby.
    417:29
    The machine did just trend dirty. It did. He did not get a flip. It did. I'm actually going to give him one of these. He gets a house ball.
    417:42
    Was that a walk away for Carlos? Yeah, he's he's got this no matter what. And honestly, I mean, Big Cat called it out. that mystery score. Mhm. Did it. So again, scoring is 4210. So that means we're going to have four points for lows, which gives you an advantage. When we were doing 7531, it's always the same score differential. Well, this one, first place gets that extra bonus point. It keeps the field compacted in the SM531, but since we're playing considerably less games, I I like this system where during during the qualif uh qualifiers, you get a chance if you have a couple bad games, you know, the field stays compact. So, you can you can make a late run and then here it's like, yep, pedal pedal to the metal and you have to give full throttle and be on your aame. Yep. You have to pick up a win if you want to keep playing in these. Like, it's You can't get a couple thirds in a second. Expect a few. Yeah. No, that that's the end of that night for you. Yep. Um that brings Carlos on second place on first place after two rounds. Nice job. Now, let's see where we're moving to. Stars. Is that our third? I believe. Oh, I love stars. You like stars? I like stars, too. Um stars. Let me run the story on stars because I want people to uh get to know this game a little bit. Here's how to play stars. All
    419:11
    right, everybody. Let's learn some stern stars. At the start of the game, you will have one random star completed for you. As you can see here, the pink stars completed for us. Bam. Collect all four other stars to juice the right spinner for a thousand a spin. Crush through the spinner here for a thousand a rip. Also, after collecting all five stars, you will light a red special light next to one of the star targets. That will be changed by either advancing bonus by hitting the targets or the rollovers or ripping the spinners. If you happen to hit that special, it is worth a 100,000 points. Huge. You can collect as many as those as you want per ball. Also, you can hit the center drop targets on either side of the of the playfield to juice the left spinner for a thousand a rip straight through here. big points. You can also hit down all the drop targets. Once you hit down three of the drop targets, you will get double bonus. Once you hit down all six drop targets, you will get triple bonus. If you continue to hit down all six drop targets, you will then get extra ball. After that, you will then light special for 100,000 points. Just like getting specials via the star targets, you can advance your base bonus by hitting the rollovers in the middle and top of the playfield or the lit inlane outlane rollovers. That's Stern Stars. That's it in a nutshell. Now, there's an interesting strategy that I have seen Carlos do. Shhatzing the inlanes left to right to left to right to get that bonus up. I'll see if he's going to do it today. Yep. Now, I have seen Trent do exactly that on other games, and I'm sure Trent could do it on this. I'm sure any of these players could do it on this. Oh, yeah. It's not easy, but would love to see that. So, let me go to our Stars game, and we'll get our order correct. Here we go.
    421:13
    So, it looks like they they probably are doing a practice ball here. It looks like it's going to be Ethan, Carlos, Trent, and Roy. But don't hold me to it. Depends on if they put them all in correctly. By the way, if you notice it, this is the only solid state that is actually set onto five balls. And the reason is it is very temperamental. It may give you two or three house balls for sure. It's also the only one that has this weird arrangement in the back glass. Oh yeah. First, second, third, fourth. I can't think of another game that does it that way. It's very confusing. Yeah. Uh while we're waiting for our first player to start, let's check in real quick on our matchups just so you guys can see who's doing what here in our A division.
    422:06
    Oh, here. Let me clear my Oh, those are not correct. All right, I'll fix those. We'll come back to it. Let me get those repaired.
    422:24
    Nope. My bad. I keep hitting the wrong button. Stop it.
    422:37
    I make it look easy, don't I, Frank? It's usually perfect. You're allowed one slip. I'm allowed to mess up every once in a while. I'll take that. I'll take that. Oh my goodness. All right. Want a shout out for you here. So, voluntarily a good man is not playing in here so he can do this because this is his passion and I've always appreciate it when you're doing this. So, thank you. Well, thanks, man. Yeah. No, it's it's my privilege. I love getting to commentate and watch pinball and join y'all for an entire day. So, thanks for that. Yeah, like you said, BFR, I had an entire hour to do this and forgot. We'll we'll get there. Well, we'll get there. You did play a few games. I did. I did get a few played. Does this work? Is this correct now? We'll find out. Let's see. No, still no. All right. Someday we'll get it. All right. All right, we'll go back to our all games and it looks like we may be ready to start. Mhm.
    423:48
    It looks like they may be talking about order. There is definitely some discussion going on.
    424:17
    Okay, we had uh player play out of order, which happens. Um and Trent uh so Trent is going to be DQed for the rest of this game. They're going to plunge his ball off, which is player three. And um player two, which is the ball he accidentally played, is going to get a comp ball. Now, it's not a perfect solution, right? For this one, it's actually not that terrible because there's no state that you carry over between balls. So, it's about as fair as it's going to get. Y cuz there's other games where it's like, oh yeah, you get a comp ball. Well, now you have nothing going, nothing is prepped or whatever else.
    424:59
    So, what you just saw was Roy plunging Trent's ball and he got his ball on the roller stock. We have seen this more today. I never see this and I've seen it more today. And that thing is so steep. I don't know how that is happening. Yeah. Big cat said, "No, I'm just creating drama where there is none." I do it constantly. Constantly. I'm like, "This can't be right." Oh, wait. That's fine. So, what they're going to do is they're going to let um player two play the other four balls that they wanted to that they should be playing. That's Carlos. And then uh Carlos will have a comp ball to add to his score at the end of the game unless of course he wins in which case he won't need it.
    425:47
    There we are. Thank you. Also, what you may have noticed, those double and triple inserts right above the flippers, they're ever so slightly sunk in on this specific machine. So, if you look up and you have something moving towards the center post, um it may just get enough momentum, roll over, and pop over the tip. Yeah, he's right here. Oh yeah, that's trouble. That's trouble. You can see Ethan negotiating. I am player one, right? So, to make it even more confusing is this nonsense, right? So, Not only is it just, you know, in general confusing, what order are we in, but now you have this weird back glass layout.
    426:33
    All right. Great live trap or I guess it was more of a slingshot trap. And he's going to set up those middle star targets because each one of them that's down adds 400 to the left spinner. So, if both of them are down, you're looking at a,000 uh points per spin. And in this dojo, the spinners are always juiced. Oh, they are for sure. Yeah. You see this guy lit up right there? So, that gives you one. So, he needs to get that other red on the left side down. Yep. So, then he can get this right here. Yep.
    427:07
    All right. Our player two, Carlos, is now playing what's effectively his ball one. Yeah.
    427:18
    Now, one thing I've I've never quite understood about this comp ball approach is why you're allowed to keep the points the other person made instead of subtracting. See if they do or not in this specific case. Yeah. So, that somebody who has TD experience may want to want to check on that. Yeah. So, Roy is plunging off player three. Okay. So, Eric said he's going to deduct them. Oh, he's gonna deduct them. Okay, got it.
    427:48
    I'll tell you what, the job of a TD is not an easy one. And you have to have all of those rules in your head. All of these rules in your head. And then you have to even make judgment calls within those rules. And no matter what, you're going to make somebody disappointed. Oh, yeah. So, I I admire the TDs of the world who are willing to make those calls. And we have a good TD team here today. Uh I think four or five people, right, that are volunteering for this today. Yep. I know. Of course, we've got Eric, we've got Jay, Denim, Stu, Nywonger, and I think Chad Hops, right? Chad. Yes. Y. So, really good TD team. Any of those folks can make a call, unstick a ball, that sort of thing. And they have been doing this for years. So, I get to TD every once in a while, but usually I'm too busy doing this over here. That job is way harder. Does he get it back? He gets it back. Oh, he didn't hit a switch. Yeah, the the the rollover at the top did not register, so that was lucky. Yep. Hey, man, we'll take one of those gifts every once in a while. Yeah, this is definitely uh interesting enough. Also, if you should tilt through, you can plunge the ball and then play continue playing. So, this one is forgiving for the tilt bruise. Is that right? Oh, that's cool. So if you see tilt at the beginning of your ball, don't you know just just plunge it and you will will be able to to play after that. And Los isn't allowed to play either. No, Stars is not letting anybody play. Yeah, as I mentioned, that's the reason why this is five balls. So you get at least one or two out of your game. Yeah, that's right. He's going to let that dead bounce. And oh, this is his player three. He's going to let everything dead bounce and then drain. Now let's see about player four if it qualified. I don't know if it qualified the player. one did. Yeah, cuz it moved on to four. All right, so that time he took a flip at it. See if he lives to regret that decision. And that was a nice good dig, man. You got to keep that alive. And he figured out a way to do it. Here's an instant replay. That takes some patience right there. And he has made a lot of use that middle post so far. Yep. That middle post in this game may be more important than any other Kirk post game I can think of. It is constantly in play because there are so many straight down the middle drains. You're draining off of the right uh spinner. You're draining off of the left spinner. There's a whole bunch of shots that come off of that star on the left and the right that drain. So that that center post is in play all the time. Usually one good ball can get you in a really good position on this game. And there it is again. That is I've played this machine so many years and this is the first time I've seen I know I've never seen it. I must be something new with this one. How many times have we have we you know stream this machine and we're seeing it all the time today. He picks up two stars. Now watch this. Is I mean it's easy for us to say but this is a moment where you kind of you just wish you could just let it dead flip, right? Mhm. And after the fact, that's great. But in the moment, you know, you try for that clean drop catch. Yes. I bet he wish he won. Uh he could have that one back. Yeah. Of course. Of course. We all do it.
    431:07
    Carl's getting impatient a little bit here. And I I tell you what, I wouldn't blame him if he were getting frustrated with this machine. I would feel the same way. It just has not really let him play. Well, there you go. And we got a nice center of that center post. And there's the strategy with the shaft. Yep. So, he's not lit on that in lane anymore. Now he is. There he goes for a double bonus. Very nice. And he's been focusing on building that bonus. Yeah, he got already the double bonus before. Now he has to bring down all six of them. Oh, I see. I see. Okay.
    431:46
    Well, one more to go. He has already 11,000 in bonus. So that was the weirdest spin. It just passed under the spinner just gently. Dead flip it. No. Oh, very nice, Lazarus.
    432:03
    That one resurrected itself. There it is. Watch it. That wasn't a center post. You're right. That was a straight up Lazarus. Went under the right flipper and back up. Mhm. And now he's on the triple bonus. And he has his bonus all almost maxed out. So spinner is up to 800 points of spin. At this point, do you go for the spinner or do you go for the um for the special? I go spinner. I I just rip out that spinner.
    432:37
    Nice use of that post again. Yep, man. All right. He is not slowing down for anything now. He has maxed it out. Yep. So maxed out bonus. Just cash in on that spinner at 800 points of spin. Nice ball. Nice ball. Excellent ball. And remember this is effectively ball three for Yes. He gets an extra one after this. Yep. So this may be after all if he keeps doing this you may not need it. So this is Roy plunging off Trent's ball. Now that was that was the performance from Carlos I think you know people expect to see. Absolutely. When it actually let him play for a minute. Oh, and he didn't slow down. He didn't trap and consider like he had a moment of pause after that Lazarus, but he just shot on the fly. And that's why I was saying I think he may get a tiny little bit frustrated because the machine just wouldn't let him play before. Yep. All right. That was a nothing ball for Roy, unfortunately. So, right now, Los is way out in front going into ball five, but it's his ball four, which means he's even more in front.
    433:49
    Very nice up there. Unfortunately, right now it was only worth 200 a spin.
    434:02
    Cobweb, you're exactly right. We could see some playoff ball here. Ah, again did not make the leap. I think we kept counting on that to get over the other flipper and once again it just didn't make the and you would absolutely expect it cuz Rick uh Eric puts puts those red rubbers everywhere. They're super bouncy. So, especially if you come from some of the other machines where it jumps all over the place, you will absolutely expect this behavior and not this drop dead that drains you in the middle. I wonder if there might be a little give on these flippers taking all the force out of the ball. Not so much as to be visible, but enough.
    434:50
    You'll see. Well, he got already four of the five stars. Yep. And get a very nice in lane here. You'll see Carlos time himself up with his flips a lot. And I this is a great example of like he's got something incoming. He's not just like fidgeting. He's timing. But he went for that last star, but he has already 800 on the right spinner and a thousand on the left spinner. At that point, I would just go for it. Yeah, you're close enough. Except unless he wanted that 100,000 point special. Yeah, fair enough. That might have been what he was looking at.
    435:29
    Now, the special star is roving, right? Uh the special star. Yeah. moves around. I don't know if I think it's at every star. Could be the special. 1 2 3 four. Yeah, every star could be the special. Yeah, it has a has a extra red. So, I think it's the the shot just rolls. I love when you roll over that in lane twice while it's lit. That feels really good. Mhm. Like that. Oh, we only got one. Well, you only get one. So, but if you do this shating, even if it's not lit, you get it on the way back. On the way back. Yeah.
    436:02
    Yeah, fidget flipping is of use. And I I know there are some folks who I I've heard on uh you know pinball forums talking about ah you're you're hurting the machines. I know you're not hurting those machines commercial machines. Yeah, you're all right. So uh that means that uh Los is going to move on at uh nine points and Roy is going to move on at five, six, seven points. And uh we are going to say goodbye to Ethan and Trent. All right, I know what you're thinking. Hey, can we check in on those other masters? I I I would love that if we could. I would love that. See if we can set it. It's just been more trouble. So, we we'll get it we'll get it figured out. Just one one minute. We'll get it figured out.
    436:50
    Cuz I too would love to check in on that. Let's try this. There we go. There we go. So, let's try that. So, let's go to our matches and see if this works. Any predictions? Six points, not seven for Roy. Thank you. Oh, look at this. I do not I, you know, I had not come into this with predictions. It's a fair question. Let me move Frank and I over.
    437:18
    Pretty as we are, I really want to see who how they're doing. You and everybody else. Yeah. Uh, so so that's what we're looking at. I mean, you can see our two people moving on are Carlos and Roy with nine and six, respectively. Uh, right now in the middle of uh, game three, you have Eric and Jeremy tied at five, Justin at four, and Elizabeth at zero, which is a surprise that I didn't know I had a prediction, but I did not predict that. No. Um, you can see down below in group three, the points are kind of spread out. Ross at five, Sydney at four, Ken at three, and Chad at two. It's everybody's game there. Yeah. really this this Diamond Lady game is going to mean everything to that group. And then uh way down below uh you've got Carl, Junior, Chris Whamsley, and Logan. And uh Junior's out in front at six, Carl at four, Logan at three, and Chris at one. Does that Jun put Junior already ahead? I mean, Junior could end up at seven, which means we'll guaranteed stay ahead of Chris. could be tied with uh I mean if he would come in fourth is he guaranteed a spot. Oh, let's see. Hold on. He would have to do potentially a tiebreaker.
    438:37
    Let me see. I'm so bad at the math of it all. And it is so simple, but it has been a long day. It is simple. One would think it would be easy for me, but it is not. Uh, all right. Big screen view. interact with Logan. That's who I was missing. So again, if if Junior took one and Logan took first place, we'd have a a tie there.
    439:03
    Well, I mean, two people advance. So, let's say he makes zero points. Um, then you have four for he would force a tiebreaker with Carl, I guess. Yeah. Are there this time automatic tiebreakers or do they are they going to be playing it out? I was still in my other my previous round scoring. Um are they going to force tiebreers? They're going to play them out. They're going to play them out. I think is the plan. I think they're going to play on on one of these classics again for tiebreers. So, um let me see where our all games cam went if anywhere. There it is. And I will bring up this game and we can catch up with RC and his group.
    439:56
    Oh, no. RC's just playing around, is he? Yeah. I I was like, he's not in this. No.
    440:03
    Well, there's obviously the B group still going on somewhere. I'm pretty sure they started in parallel, right? They did. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to check in with Eric and see where he wants to move the camera if he wants to follow another group. One second. All right.
    440:21
    So, while he goes and figures that out, um, thanks again for everybody who's tuned in watching this. Um, you are at, we believe the 8th Northern Kentucky Open 2025 this year. Thanks for everybody who donated, sponsored. Um,
    440:46
    subscribed. Are you rooting for 555? So, get more pinball. And he's moving the rig. So, let's see who we're going to follow. If we're going to stay in group A or if we're going to go over to group B.
    441:17
    Oh, I understand that sentiment. I love watching tie breakers. I never want to be in them.
    441:26
    So, it looks like we're going to get some more Rocky and Bullwinkle, but I don't know for which group at this point. I'll wait till Justin comes back and see.
    441:45
    Oh, that's just a group that we talked about. So, they just started the game. We're on ball one still. Um, so player four, ball one.
    442:01
    That's Junior's group now. Yep. I'll move over to Junior's group and we'll get our scores updated.
    442:15
    How about this one? Does that look right? Game three of three. Player four should be junior. It is. So, we're in good shape. And Junior has all the cards in his hand. So, he put himself in a really good spot there. He did. Ah. So, uh you'd said the worst it can get for Junior cuz you actually doing correct math was a tiebreaker to dec right. Like if Junior were to get zero and then it it's not necessarily even a tiebreaker. He may still get through depending on how the other people finish um in that group. But um that's a really good spot cuz you can play relaxed now. Yeah, that is nice. So, let's see what Carl's doing. I didn't see the scores for the first round. I thought it was fairly close. They were all somewhere in the 10 20 mill 20 million range. Seems like it was not a real good first round so far. There we go. Nobody's had a big run away, huh? So this is a moment that super pops would have been real helpful. He got up and he does not get a flipper on the ball. That's rough.
    443:25
    That's rough. Well, you always have to count where you get at least one of those. So one out of three. Now if you get two out of three, you can start getting a little crusty about it. You get three out of three, you're allowed to throw a machine. Well, with that tight tilt. Okay. Yeah, you get to drag it out back and set it on fire if you get three house balls in the finals. Tough drain on ball three for Trent. Oh, man.
    443:54
    Let me give you a little more sound here. So, he's got his mystery lit in the middle and it doesn't matter when you get kicked to the right. I mean, that's just so mean. Yeah. You're half ramping it. You're either going center or straight right. It's like We've seen it several times today. Uh it is very dangerous getting up into those pops. Yeah.
    444:18
    Gets a nice in lane here. Yeah, that was a scary moment as always. It It's really just Now you can understand why people just keep looping and hope things good things happen. Sure. I mean that if you end up rogue at all, you're in real danger. There's a great example. One bad shot. Yep. Little sling action and you're out.
    444:42
    So, we're back to Junior for ball two, player four. I mean, all he needs at this point is really just one point to be guaranteed in advance, but I would figure if you're sitting at top spot, you're going to get to choose your bank, right? Yeah. So, that's that's an added really nice. And I know I know a couple of his favorites. So, all right. So, this is great. He got to pick because of his mystery shot. He got to pick to start his multiball. So, sure enough, let's do that.
    445:20
    Off to the races. Got a jackpot lid on the right ramp and the out. And it doesn't matter. Can we restart it? He gets a Did he get a restart already or did it just go away? I think it just went away. Oh. and juggled it. That was like everything went wrong. Didn't even get to try ball. Or didn't even have to try ball. That's good.
    445:48
    All right. It's still pretty tight. So, doors open for everybody. Yep. All right, Carl. Let's see some real jackpot points here. That's what's going to make you stand out is if you can get a couple of good jackpots. That's the super pops. I want to know how and he has save. Great save. I want to know how Carlos got two million points uh super pops that maybe it's like the third time you get him or something. That is very possible. There's so many little details and nuances in the rules and he's going to get punished again. He's just mar sling town today. He is getting slung everywhere. Now that is frustrating if you come to play and then the machine won't let you. For sure. For sure.
    446:40
    So, now it's up to Chris. We already have a guaranteed fourth place from Carl. So, he's going to end up finishing at four points. That puts Chris through. It puts Yeah. Puts Junior through. Yep. At first, I thought you meant Chris Williams. I should say it's Junior. Yes. The 555 dream is dead. Yeah. It died with that right outlane drain.
    447:10
    Rocket Squirrel scoring this time. We're looking for ramps. We're looking for orbits. We're looking for that mystery shot. We're looking for scoops.
    447:21
    And here, drop targets. Score 2 millions right now. Yeah, that he's just going to keep going for the ramp. I'll tell you what, 2 million's not enough for me. And I think that just started his multiball. 2 million is not worth it. Keep up your ramp strategy. Mhm. I mean, if you want to hit him while you're doing something else, fine.
    447:44
    And that just juggled itself over to the right outline again. It said you you've had enough multiball. Thank you. Sorry. Try ball. Try ball. Try again ball.
    448:01
    All right. So now what? So he's done his first multiball. I mean it looks like the the mode's progress is pretty good on the left there. I don't know if he wants to go through and try and finish those. That's a lot of those standups to to complete for another one. It is. And the standups are so dangerous.
    448:23
    He's not ready for his mystery shot yet. So that's not an option. He could go into hattrick. Oh, look. He's going into hat trick. So he he still has to shoot the left uh orbit for that. So just loop million thing gives you gives you a million. Just loop millions. Why not?
    448:42
    I do believe there's a timer on those things though, right? Yeah. Like between loops. Yeah.
    448:52
    Here's our hat trick. Presto. But we're playing a game in the back glass.
    449:03
    never got that far. Nice. Very nice. Is he going to go for a second one? He is not. He's going to pick up a ramp again. Building a nice comfortable lead at 146 and count. [Music] Uh-oh. Yeah, but that was an excellent ball. I mean, he put he put a score out. So, um and he needed to because he he needs the four points for sure. So, we know that Carl is uh is going home. The question is, can Chris finish? Chris Welmsley finish in perfect first. So, he he needs to be first. He needs uh Junior come in second. Um so that Logan Yeah. picks up. Yeah, he's Logan to get two point less than two points. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So, his ideal scenario is is himself, Junior, um, and then Carl and Logan. Yeah. What's amazing to me is when I do this with Eric, he, you know, he's an accountant, right? He does all of that instantaneously and invisibly. He doesn't even think. He doesn't have to, he just goes, "Yeah, well, one point goes here or two points go there." I I have done this for how many years and I still need a slide rule and I that's why I work with computers so they can do the math for me. I'll let them do it. [Music] All right. So Chris is definitely crossing his fingers for Junior right now for sure. Yeah, he needs he needs Junior to edge out Logan. We're at 31. He needs to get to above 59. Oh, he picks up a mystery for triball. Even Junior knows that's silly. I mean, he's like, "What?" So, there you go. I'm not saying it's over. I'm saying it's a pretty good uh pretty good thing to get. Well, we do have seen a few quick drinks today. Those Outlines are hungry. We have. We have. Some of these tri balls have added up to virtually nothing.
    451:09
    Yeah. If I was in Logan's shoes, I'd be mad that you can pick up a triball off a mystery, especially when you've already had one. Mhm. But, uh, such are the rules. It's just bad fortune. Really good ball control in the cradle there. He was able to hold on to all three even with that incoming missile.
    451:30
    Oh, there you go. It picks up the jackpot. That was the trick. Well, that however prevents him from restarting it. So, so he just now has passed Logan. So, at this point, Chris wants Junior to drain. I mean, really, we're jockeying for position at this point. Yes. Well, if Junior edges out a win, that effectively puts Chris out, right? We're taking two. So, Oh, puts Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He won. Yeah. Cuz if he Well, if Junior gets a win, he that's going to put Junior at 10. Yep. and Chris at three. The worst Chris can do is end at three, which is going to put him tied with Logan. Carl will move on. Yeah. At four. But no, Logan will move on cuz Logan will have guaranteed four. Yeah. Four. Well, so we actually it's going to be we're going to see a tiebreaker right at four and four. Yes. Gotcha.
    452:30
    I think at least. So Chad will correct us, I would have hope.
    452:42
    So Logan is cheering on Junior and Chris is secretly hoping that he's going to drink for sure. I mean, again, Chris just put on such a performance there on ball three like he and he really opened it up and he got his wish. There we go. So never give up. That's what that tells us, right? I mean, you're sitting at with one point at the last spot before you go into this round. So, everybody is like, "Oh, yeah. It's between those three, right?" Um, and then everything changes. Yep. So, now we have both Chris's moving on. Logan's going to end at four. Carl's going to end at four. Chris Whamsley with five, Chris Junior with six. Congratulations, Chris. That was absolutely clutch. That was You know what? If you want to hit the clutch play button, it's pretty fun.
    453:37
    There it is. So many tiebreaker scenarios and we got none of them. You are exactly right. Good finish. Good finish. Nice game. Oh my gosh. The fact that it was on a mystery shot was just unbelievable.
    454:03
    should not exist. Yeah, the score doubler. He He made a good point. He got Yeah, he got the multiball twice on mystery, but he could have gotten the score doubler, which is a random award we saw earlier in the day. So Oh, and that that is not patched out of this RAM or anything. Oh, wow. And I don't mean 2x playfield. I mean doubles your existing score. Score. Yeah. I didn't even know that was a thing. Uh what is that? That uh Bucks Bunny's birthday ball where you can steal somebody else's score. Bugs Bunny's birthday bash. Yeah, it's brutal, man. It's brutal. All right. Well, let's go back to our matches and see what else is going on. Scoopington. Yeah, this is this is at Eric Whartonburgger's house and he hosts us every year. He and Angie are kind enough to do this. So, it looks like our last game is group two is the only one that hasn't finished. We're going to see Ross and Chad move on from group three. Chris and Chris from group four. And of course, you guys saw group one, Carlos and Roy. So the question is what's going to finish up on group two? A group that has some pretty tight points differential here. Five, five, and four. Uh so at that point I think Elizabeth cannot move on mathematically. So it is between those three. So essentially literally Yeah. Yeah. Can Elizabeth spoil? I guess a little I mean she could she could sort of ruin things for somebody else but yeah she can't move on. H how many bits to time out the kid pinball I do not accept bribes. Okay, I accept really really high bribes. Let me go check in on Bone Busters and see what's going on. So hopefully we'll get to see a little bit of this. I don't know how much that was on stream earlier. That's a really interesting machine. I'm not quite sure where that theme is coming from. Is that does it know anybody of chat? that like, oh, Ghostbusters is licensed, so we're doing Bone Busters, but um it's a rather odd combination of of screens and and clip art and whatever else.
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    Well, it is a really classy field, so everybody who's in here in those finals, it is definitely deserving of it. So, it's everybody's chance here. Are they already done? He said they're wrapping that one. Uh, they're already wrapping up. So, we will not see for the time being Bone Busters. I hope we're going to see it later. It is really a neat game. Have we even seen Bone Busters today? It is a brand new machine. So, I would love for Chad to see that. Oh, thank you for those bits, cobweb. Cobweb, are you Cody Webb? Either way, thank you for the thousand bits so much. Now, I don't know if it's enough, you know, to uh time out somebody.
    456:59
    Let's see if they've got their scores reported. They do not yet. So, they're must still be wrapping up on group two. I mean, theoretically, they could have gotten into a tiebre Did Did you ask if they're going into a tiebreaker? Um, he said no. Like, he's like, "No, this is all done." Oh, okay. So, they're just probably figuring out uh what the machines, the banks are for the next round, right? Yep. Do you know by any chance if B is still playing anywhere? Uh you know what? Let me see if I can bring it up. Let's have a look at B and see how those guys are doing. Yep. It'll take me just a second to do it. So, hang tight everybody and I will bring that up.
    457:49
    Now, so the way that it worked, we had, I think, around 56 people. First 16 make it into the A final and then the next 16 make it into the B finals. There weren't any restrictions in terms of whopper points, um, what money you can win or whatsoever. We just have straight up two different final groups. Ah, yes. In fact, it looks like they have already wrapped. So, who's I can't see my without glasses. That's about impossible for me. Yeah, this is tricky. So, you can see it looks like they have wrapped on this one. Gary O'Brien with a massive win. Oh my god. At 12 points and Jason Gwyn is uh those two are going to move on. Then it looks like we have a tiebreaker on group two between Ben Thomas and Matt. Justin, there's your extra pinball. Yeah, Justin Ryan's going to move on. So, we may be able to catch up with those guys. I don't know why it's not showing me the whole semi-finals. Hold on. And looks like Deborah made it through. Yeah. Let me let me add some more height to this and see if I can get more out of it.
    459:04
    So, you can see then uh Summer, am I all caught up up there? Let me interact. Looks like in that group, Deborah and Doug made it through. Yeah. Group three was Deborah and Doug. And group four was Zachary and Tanner. And it looks like they're doing a playoff right now. So, three-way playoff. Yeah, that's going to be on Cheetah between Thomas Oolir. But it looks like that's already going. I see a timer timer at about 8 minutes or so. So then that it's probably in the middle. Yep. Yep. Yep. So that's the answer on that. Uh we're watching that play off. Let me see if I can get uh Eric to move. Oh, there he is.
    459:55
    Hopefully we can move over and actually play one of those. Uh cuz I'd love to see what happens next. There he's he's uh getting all the new stuff. He's doing stuff. Okay. Oh, did I blow Oh, that's right. I can always move us over. Let me just see where they're at. I think I just blow blew everybody's eard drum. And we do have our new games for our semi-final. So, maybe we can keep following that A group while they're working out that since they're already eight minutes into that cheetah game. And um we need a group to follow, friends. We have group one, Justin, Jeremy, Carlos, and Chad. And we have group two, Ross, Chris, Roy, and Junior. put up a poll in the because we have a couple minutes. Oh, that's fun.
    460:42
    If you know how to do that. I don't know. I don't know how to do that. What do you guys want to see? Just tell me in chat. Group one or group two? We have three groups. Three. Three votes for group one. Everybody wants to see that. Group one. Five. Overwhelmingly so far. Do you know what the answer is? Always whatever group Carlos is in. That's always the answer. Well, do you blame them? There's nobody nicer in pinball. So fun to watch. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He's so fun to watch. All right. So, they're going to pick sitting there knows we're talking about him. Just gave you a compliment. Yes. Nicest guy in pinball. They're going to uh We'll go to one. You guys definitely got it. We'll go to one. We just need them to pick their games and we'll be over there. I'm looking at Cheetah to see where they're at in case we have some pinball to watch there.
    461:35
    And while he's looking, I'll see. I think Eric is right now inputting all the data. So, we should have fairly soon an update what banks they're going to be playing. So, Cheetah is done and it's getting reported now. All right. I will have an update for you. So, what's interesting is does the higher initial seed from the finals always pick for every round? Should they advance or does actually the winner of the previous round of the last round, right? Yeah. I don't know how Eric's work in that. That's a great question because I've seen it both ways. So, I don't know what they reported, but Cheetah's reporting now. Who is going to move on between Thomas, Ben, and Matt Goslin? And again, we already have uh Zachary Allen Kelly, Tanner Troyer moving on. We already have Deborah Tolman and Doug Hikel moving on. And we already have Justin Ryan moving on as well as Gary O'Brien and Jason Gwyn. The question is who from this group? Ben Thomas and Matt is gonna move on after playing Cheetah. We shall see. And that Cheetah, I don't know if it was on stream already. That is a scratch build uh by Eric from last year, I believe. It is so nice. And it is quick. It is so nice.
    462:54
    So Eric's getting all the games plugged in now for our A division finals. These are our B. We just shared the B. So I'll go back to A and we'll just hang tight until they are ready for us.
    463:17
    Hello. Hello. How you doing, Elizabeth? Boop them out of the booth. Booping out of the booth. It is just fine. I'm going to be booping in and out as well. Oh, yeah. Yep. So, let me do this. I'm going to get your correct name up there because you are not Frank Young. Frank was doing fine things though. Yesterday was playing really, really well. All right. Tell me if I get this right. Ready? Okay. So far so good. How'd I do? Amazing.
    463:49
    All right. All right. So, we are going to follow group one. We're getting ready. We now have games that they're going to play. And uh there are these games. We're going to start on Grand Prix. You've heard of this one? You are familiar with this game? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that I didn't capitalize. But I had a really fun game on it today. You did? You had one and a half million as I recall. Yeah, like 1.8. So, Oh, 1.8. Yeah, I was almost one 1.3. What? I rolled it, so that's all that matters. That what matters is you got to roll it and start over. So, all right, let's go over to our We're going to see some gunk. Uh Game of Thrones. Sweet. Is that Where was that in the list? Both of both of the lists pick it. Yeah, I think they're starting on Game of Thrones.
    464:49
    Glad you're here. Oh, I need to grab a new liquid. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll I'll be here. I've got them right there. Right nearby. Nice.
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    Okay. Grand Prix. I was thinking about um this game earlier and what I would do if I wanted to change up the rule set. Not by a lot. Like keep the the spinners and the the saucers, but make it a little bit more of a decision. Make it more of a risk. What would you do? That's the thing. We can talk about it. Well, I mean, one thing that would help is to not have the spinners go for days. Yeah. Having having the the the choice of when to go for the saucer, but what if there was a way to multiply it after it was maxed or something? So you could even get it more. Well, that would be way cool. Yeah. What if what if you could like the standup targets were a saucer multiplier and that multiplier superseded how much the spinners would give you. Anyways, so here's Chad. Oh, here. Let me let me bring you the upto-date one. You're looking at the live feed. Let me come over here. Nope. And bring you the Yeah, thank you. Oh, so it was there's Chad, not here's Chad. My bad. There we go. And now I will build you a new projector and put it over there. Well, I'm glad one of us knows how to do this. My goodness.
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    There we go. This is the real time one over there. Okay. Okay. So, oh, not not the best from Chad. I kind of missed it. Sorry. That was sort of a blink and you miss it kind of moment. You can hardly be blamed for that. Are we able to update the names here? Yep. I'm working on that one. Let's see. Okay, Carlos semis quarters and let's go to Oh. Oh, okay. Couldn't quite find this. There it is. Off the wall. A little early on that spinner rip. And oh, early. Usually I I always find myself shooting it late. Shot that late. What's that? Shooting that late. He's finding it. He's finding it. Finding the in lane. Gets a fuel. Gets a reset. We're going to see this on the fly shot. Very nice. Right into the spinner.
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    Okay. Very scary because you can't alley pass and like that was kind of an alley situation, but we're back at it. Getting these thousands per spin. Already off to a good start for Carlos.
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    All right. Okay, another clean look. Another clean rip. Yeah. Okay, so we're already approaching 200,000. I was going to say I turned my head for a second. Now we're already climbing. Yeah, he's doing great. Oh man, Carlos though, I always I hate playing after him because he wears out these flippers, dude. He's He loves flipping and flopping. Yeah, I think it was on Grand Prix at Cincinnati maybe three or four years ago and um after after Carlos was was playing the the right flipper actually completely died. Oh no. Really? Yeah. I like hit the button I was like that's like a weird flipper and then with the ball on it actually couldn't move at all. So they ended up opening the game and fixing it which player three greatly appreciated. Was the coil just in a puddle at the bottom of the cabinet? Something was got disconnected or something. Okay. Well, the good news for uh Jeremy is that Chad is right there with him. So, yeah, rough start for both Chad and Jeremy, but you can do a lot just in one ball. This is kind of a a strong one ball game for sure. And ball one doesn't really mean anything more over the other balls. No. And you've got Yeah. You're not really building anything over time. You got five balls to play. Yeah. If you're going to have a bad one, this is a good game to do it on. Mhm. I I appreciate older games that don't rely on a good ball one. Yeah. So annoying. Yeah, I totally agree. And then you have other games where ball five is the most important like Jungle Queen. Jungle Queen for ball five is double bonus automatically, right? So you want to make sure that your best ball if you have one is one. So if someone has a good ball four and you have a good ball five, you're going to be the one. I actually really like that dynamic. It does. It puts a little pressure on that final ball. It changes things a little bit. It feels like you always have a chance. Yep. All right. All right. So, let me Yeah, I guess I prefer that. Let me throw this out there for how to add a little bit more intrigue, riskreward to this game. Okay, so on your fifth spinner rip, so you've just been at it. Wow, how about a double rip. He was still spinning on the left and picked up the right roll. Two spinners spinning at once, but yeah. Okay, fifth spinner. Fifth spinner rep. You've already collected all your points. Shark comes up, eats the ball. That's so good. What do you think? Uh, yeah, send it. All right, I'll send it in. We'll see if anybody's into it. I can make a mod. I can make a mod. They They have It already exists. Carlos is going to let it calm down for a second. Chad, he just got Grand Pre. I mean, it's It's so tempting. Oh, and he Oh, he tilted. Oh, I mean, he might have not had bonus. I I missed that, but I Yeah, I don't know which side was lit and how. Well, no, he did because he had both ripped already, right? He didn't collect any. 50. I don't think it was 2x, but yeah, 50. Yeah. So, he would have been sitting at least 100. Yeah, he probably would have had 50 cuz he did rip both sides. Oh, by the way, I meant to give him one of these. Where's my spinner rip button? That's it. Oh, it didn't play. Yeah, it's like loading. Well, it'll randomly play later. Yeah, it'll probably happen during this ball right in the middle of it. Probably is going to be appropriate. That was not good. Oh, stop. Interesting ski pass. That makes a lot of sense. That is a shallow flipper. Yeah, you can do it. You're not sending it right into the uh slings. Oh, interesting. Quick flip. I was expecting a dead bounce there. Oh, okay. I I just don't get to see the spinner rib. That's okay. All right. A little late on that flipper. It's tough because these flippers are kind of oriented differently. So, they the spinner shot is on different spots on the flipper. Yep. And we were talking about that earlier that that can be really sort of disorienting. You have to know this is where the black one is. This is where the orange one is. Yep. And neither of them is the same as hot tip. Gets away with an alley.
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    He has his right. Good feed to the left in lane. Yeah, we love to see it. Yep. Okay, good flip. Good read. Gets 5,000 for what it's worth. Yeah, few spins there. Very nice. He goes once again for that rip. He does not have bonus built up on the left side, so be good time to get there. It's It's You only get the bonus from the lit side. So, yeah. As long as that doesn't move. Okay. Interesting little It was like a dead live flip. Another one. Oh, nice. Yeah, it was great. All right. Finding. So, he's just cashing in on those thousands over and over and over. That's all you need to do. That's all you need to do. I mean, at that point, that 50k bonus becomes much less of a big deal. I feel like I've seen him tap pass on this game, which is so It can be done. It can be done. Yeah, but like why would you want to get it over? Just just max out both spinners. Yeah, just send it back up top. Look at that. Love that. Okay, that was pretty. Now he's just showing off. Well, I was expecting a tap cuz that spinner wasn't spinner wasn't full. But that live catch. He Oh, playing with fire. He stuck it to the flipper, took a second, paused, and then fired it up that left orbit. Okay. A little late. Pilly paddly. Oh, beautiful. Yep. So good. Cradled it like a baby.
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    You know, free the the single target drop targets are something you don't really see ever. Oh, yeah. These sort of the C and D A and B targets. Yeah. They're just large and singular. Yeah. And these are unique. You actually I've struggled cuz we have a couple broken ones at Arcade Legacy. They work, but they're half targets. And you can't really replace them cuz they didn't use them in anything else. Oh, he just collected his bonus and then drained and he didn't capitalize on his double bonus. Didn't get that double bonus, but he will be able to roll it next. Yeah. I mean, he's what, 870? He's looking pretty good. And you start with 5,000. So, uh, yeah, he's pretty close. I've described. So, I've done these beginner uh flipper skills. It's an interesting choice. I don't I don't think I'd make it. No, sometimes that just happens. Yeah, I I've seen that a few times. You could have gotten away with it, but not this isn't the game to try it. There's not a lot of benefit. I think that was just a misplunge. You know, you're wanting to Yeah. You know, it's an okay score.
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    Okay. defense. Can they be 3D printed? They can. Um, in fact, I've been curious to see if I can find a solution there. These these drop targets are really wide and really weird. I mean, are 3D printed drop targets going to be brittle or does it depend on You may have to put something behind them. I don't know. Maybe it depends on what kind of plastic you use. Yeah, it it would have to be some polymer something. Maybe they're done on like a reinforced web behind it. I However they made these original ones, I don't know. I don't think they were 3D printed. No, certainly not. I think that's a pretty good bet. Finds a squish of an in lane there. Yeah, nice move by Justin to just sort of kind of give it a little tap up. He didn't go full boore.
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    H you know, I like playing Grand Prix. I don't like watching it as much. No, no, it's not as fun. If I were to rank all of the ems in terms of just watching and having fun, I think Hot Tip is is fun to watch. Yeah, I think that is the funnest em here to watch. Look at this little baby live catch/rop catch. This was pretty. That is Justin's favorite thing. Yeah. See it? Okay. Nice. Okay. Oh, he did he did end his ball between that, but Oh, man. at least we got to see that. I was looking over here. Yeah. So, I always describe like we do these little flipper skills clinics up at the draft and I've described the difference between a live catch and a drop catch as if you were going to catch a baby, you would do a drop catch, which is you you would have your hands up, the baby would land and you would drop with the baby to try and take the momentum or an egg or an egg like with an egg toss. Yeah. Okay. But if somebody were throwing you a baseball and you and it were coming in pretty hot and you wanted to stop it, you might sort of move to the ball and catch it at the same time, which is a live catch. You're meeting it with the same momentum that the ball already has. That's interesting, right? That's interesting. The the baseball part is not perfect, but it it at least helps understand what a drop catch is compared to the live catch. I think it makes a lot more sense if you see a live catch in slow motion. The slow-mo guys did that on a on the Willy Wonka. And seeing how the rubber actually does cradle the ball. Um that that's where it does it sort of wrap around the ball a little bit. Yeah, the rubber kind of leaves the flipper and wraps around it. So, I feel like that's what's like really happening. That's cool cuz like you'll never see a baseball like it just it just doesn't make sense because you know I guess it that I guess that is you kind of put your hands around it. Yeah, the rubber is is Yeah, I guess the rubber is kind of wrapping his hands around it. I don't know. It's magic and it doesn't make any sense. It Have you seen the Abe Flips videos on this on YouTube? Oh yeah, those are like really pro. Really good. They're like they're really pro. They look really cool. If you guys want to learn basic flipper skills, go watch the Abe Flips, AB F L I Ps videos. They are fantastic. Now, this is a thing that I've been noodling on is a way for the game to really teach a player how to play and learn mechanics. Yeah, for sure. You know, and gify it in some sort of like side mode. I'm I'm still thinking about it, but I think that'd be a cool thing. That was my biggest hope for the P3 platform was that it would become a trainer. Oh, right. because it could launch the ball from all those various scoops to your flippers. Maybe if it could do varying speeds, etc. That would be neat. Yeah. And could track the ball. That's right. They would have an easier time for sure. Well, I mean, even then though, it's like it's hard to tell if the ball is trapped on a flip or like So, you want to be able to like, all right, do a catch, like catch the ball, cradle the ball, and how do you tell if they did it? Right. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, you can guess at it, but you you won't really know for sure unless you have some sensor. Whatever that tracker is doing in P3. Yeah. Mhm. I'm going to give Losen on fire. I mean, he just rolled Grand Prix and he's on his way to the next roll. Yep. And he is just destroying the game. He is He had This is his vengeance run cuz the last time he played this game, he got last with close to 900 on it. He had like 8 88. Yeah. Got last. So that's got to be so frustrating when you're doing that well and still coming in last. He's making sure that's not happening again. But obviously it worked out. He's he's sitting over there or he's standing over there. Uh he didn't need the the win. He could have he dealt with the loss. He he made it through. Okay. Yeah. What ball is he on? I can't tell now. It's not obvious from here. Oh, three. He's on three. All right. So, uh, did he just roll it again? Did I miss it? Did he roll it twice? I don't think he's I think he's at 250. They had a prototype game called Wizard that was a skill trainer. Nice. Yeah, I've always I think that would be super cool to have a skill trainer. And I think if anybody's going to do it, P3 is a nice place to start. But you could do you could train on things like dead flips by did you or did you not flip and then what happened next, right? It would just be really cool if you could track the ball on the playfield. Yeah. To have a little bit higher. But even I guess introducing the concept is doing measures, you know, and like I I mean things like short plunging. Okay. You know, that's that's a skill that you might you know, someone might not really know. So like the game kind of guiding you through and giving you an extra instructional. I mean for like skilled players it'd be a little bit you know helpful but and even for I think for beginner players when we do those those flipper skills clinics I think they're just so grateful to have some sense of control over the game because it's the only way otherwise it just kind of feels like luck you know. So these clinics that you do is the glass like off? Yeah. We take the glass off and we'll set up like here's the perfect opportunity for a drop catch and we'll do like 10 of them in a row. Here's the perfect opportunity for a live catch. And we do 10 of them in a row and just see okay were you a little early a little late? What made the difference? How did it feel when you got it right? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, they're really fun. We should do it at Cincinnati sometime. That would be really cool. Oh, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Uhoh. Playing with fire. A little late on that flip. Yeah, Chuck was kind enough to put the uh ball number in in the playfield cam,
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    helping us out big time. That's okay. We can keep track from now on. Ball three. I could have guessed that. I was like, "Yeah, Carlos has done this three times now." Yeah. I mean, he's at 1.4 right now going into ball four. I do feel like it's if when people
    480:59
    good adjustment on that flip. Um I think people will enjoy pinball more if they feel like they have that control like you said. For sure. And if they if they play better, they'll play the game longer and farther in and see more of the game and have a better time. Like we we want better players. Everybody wants better players and I want people to enjoy it more. I mean, if nothing else, like they are going to put another quarter in and they're going to build the hobby more and they're going to come back to the arcade more and cuz you hear it's like, oh, like I'm no good at pinball. It always just goes down the middle and then you can't do anything about it. Yeah. You can't do anything. It's like, well, you can. And there's ways to avoid that scenario, too, for one. And then you kind of just have to understand a lot of different factors and parts of pinball. And as much as like rules matter and layout matters, it's it's flipper skills. It is getting the ball under control. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes better the less you know, the better you do a lot of times. Yeah. Exactly. Like golf, it's no fun until you have a good flip technique or a swing technique. And I and I I feel bad because I'll see, you know, new players at the arcades get frustrated and I want to say, "Hey, there actually you can learn to do this." But, you know, they have to kind of find it on their own.
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    I am amazed how many people will tell me it's just luck. When I say, "Hey, I play competitive pinball." And they go, "It's all luck, isn't it?" Whoa. And they, well, I can understand why you think that, but no. Could you imagine imagine a competitive thing that is just luck? Pure luck. That'd be crazy. It's like, yeah, I'm a professional dice roller. That's right. I play competitive Plinko. Yeah.
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    I guess pachinko kind of is competitive Plinko a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they have competitions, do they? I don't know. You can win money at it. Yeah. Maybe it is just It's g That's That's gambling. That's just That's just gambling. When I was in Japan, I went to a pachinko place and there were people who had just stacks of buckets of pachinko balls that they had won. And I thought, you must be somehow good at pachinko. Can you be good at pachinko? Do it a lot. Yeah. I I maybe you can kind of nudge the game. Oh boy. Yeah, maybe they're nudging or maybe they know just how far back to pull the thing. Some of them it's just a handle though. Oh, maybe. Yeah, a lot of them I saw were like thumb activated like these little flippers. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Gamma Goat said, "At the same time, I envy the players that just have a ton of fun just flapping the flappers." Flapping the flappers. Flapping the flappers. I'm too hung up. Yeah. I've had days where I thought, "Wait, I'm not even enjoying this anymore. I'm too worked up and I have to go take a take a breather." Yeah. I I always I I really like playing with other people because it it it drops the um the I don't know there's it becomes less serious and you're kind of you know half of your mind is talking to the person next to you and the other half is on the game and then you're doing something crazy and then both of you kind of freak out over it for short seconds. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's nice to have somebody else there to even distract you from it for a little bit and carry on a conversation with. Sometimes when you're in a tournament and everybody's super serious and silence, it just makes it more intense in a way that is not helpful. The worst is when you have someone who's like angry and tense and is like slapping the, you know, hitting the glass and you can just feel it on them. You Yeah. Oh, yeah. Feeling Yeah. Like you can smell it off them. Yep. That double bonus unfortunately not going to be worth a lot. I think he had 50,000 on one ladder and five on the other because he had just collected if I saw that right. I feel you met a night man need a competitive break. How close are we to a double roll here? Is that a That's a six. That's a six. Close though. So at this point he's just gunning for your record of 1.8. Uh I think he he didn't double roll it yet. I don't think it's hard to tell. This game doesn't track that for you. There's no two million point light. No, they they were like, there's no way spinners will spin for this long, right? Nobody would juice it that much.
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    Whoa. Man, Jeremy has done that three times. I think that's So that went for me that went from luck to a strategy. And we have the ball count again. Y that's nice. So Jeremy knows what he's doing and I think he's doing it on purpose because that's the third time. Ah uhhuh. At least he had um some bonus built up there. This might matter. Players three and four. Justin and Jeremy are very close. We're looking at 89 something and 811. I think those are threes. Are those threes? It doesn't matter. Same same number. 38. It's the same. Yeah. I can't see it from here, unfortunately.
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    Okay, he gets his A. If he gets the B, he'll have double bonus, which is nice. Mhm. You'd rather have the ball in play, though.
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    Ball four, player four. Oh, no. All right, so here's the last ball. Chad needs to, you know, get his act together. Yep. This is a good opportunity for I mean, Chad has played this game a million times, both here and at Arcade Legacy. He's really good time for him to really rip it. Yeah, he played well yesterday, right? Although his winning game was less than half a million. It Yeah, it was a 66. Mine was four. Oh, okay. Good bounce and a dirty dirty spinner. He got to 600,000 yesterday. Mhm. O, that's frustrating. H that's hard. Yeah, it's with this point layout. It's It's real rough to get last. Yeah. So, that means he's definitely taking fourth place. Right now, Los is way ahead with 1.7. Yeah. Million points. I think he was thinking that was outlaning. He took his hands off the game. Like, all right. I think that was it. I didn't want to play it anyway. All right. Gets this 50k back.
    487:07
    I never thought I'd say this, but I've had enough Grand Prix for right now. Yeah. I'm hoping we get to see uh what are the next two games I'll look at. I love this game and I love watching this game, but this is a lot of Grand Prix. A lot of Grand Prix. It's been a lot of Grand Prix today. I don't think we've seen much in the way of Bone Busters. I don't think we've seen a single game of odds and evens as far as I know. Maybe it's time. Kind of forget. I know Game of Thrones was another one. Big game could have been love big game. Would love to see some big game. I have I played it three times and I could not. He just had a killer rip. Excellent. Cheetah is fun. Cheetah's awesome. I I'd prefer to watch Cheetah over Big Game. Yep. We've seen a lot of folks picking Cheetah. It's shown up a lot both in the random draw and people have been picking it. I feel like it like big game you can't really aim the ball all that well. It feels weird. Big game is out of control about half the time. Big game everything is like in the way of each other. Yep. Like the flippers are in the way of each other and the pop bumpers are in the way of the the drop targets and the the drop targets are in the way of the spinners. Like I don't know. It just it that game doesn't drive. It doesn't flow. Unless you're playing it great and then it's like this is the easiest thing ever. It's true for any game I guess. Yeah. Every once in a while with big game I just get into flow, complete all my cards. I'm just nailing everything. Most of the time it's just flappy flappy chaos. Especially since his rebuild and then out. Big game is rebuild. Yeah, brand new playfield. Oh, I thought you meant from ball to ball. You have to build back here. I'm like, that's crazy. That would be awful. It just plays a lot faster now. Good dead bounce off the edge of the flipper. I'm always afraid to do that. That was roll number two, wasn't it? Wow. He got there. He got there again. Uh here. I'm going to give him the other one. Okay. No. Nope. All right. Nailed it. Nailed it.
    489:17
    I mean, you have to admire a double roll in tournament play when it really matters. Always very cool. Yeah. Very cool. Nice job. Huge game for Los. All right. Now, this is where the interest This is where the fun begins. Yeah. In terms of these two players have a close score. So, whether those are threes or eights, I can't tell. I think they're the same thing, though. As you said, I think they're at least the same number. Let me go look. I'm super curious. All right.
    489:49
    I think it's a three and a nine. That's my guess. going to keep an eye on it.
    490:03
    And not quite a max spinner. I want to at least watch Game of Thrones, Frank. stretch my legs. Oh, okay. Okay. I thought he was I I was being dooded and I'm like, I want Game of Thrones.
    490:33
    How do you tell when a score rolls on this? You just have to be there for it.
    490:42
    Okay. So, we are reaching five. So, this is a strong uh ball Jeremy's doing. So this is the last ball. Did anybody roll? Carlos rolled it twice. Wow, that is massive. Anybody else? No. So he is almost secured first. I would Well, Justin has the potential, right? I guess so. But I hope not. I just we we want to move on from this game a little bit. But I do want to see if he chases down Jeremy. This is the question here. So off to an also good sp start start. Jeremy got about like four spinner rips and then bonus collect. So Dustin will have to match it. He does not have the double bonus yet though from what it looks like. You know it that's could be consequential, could be not. You know eh. All right. It's a little squirly here. It's a little still. Okay. We're back. That was a back. Oh, but late on the flipper. If it's on the If it's on the fly, you have to flip so early. Okay. All right. So, he needs maybe one more strong spinner rip on the left and he might overtake it. Okay, that gave him double bonus there and that is going to do it. Double bonus. No. Oh, math ain't math. My bad. All right. So, that was tight. He takes third there and he's like, I got this. Going to move on right next door to Cheetah. Are we going to be staying Are they playing Cheetah's uh next game or are we switching groups? Uh, no. I we like to stay with the same group and it will be Cheetah and then Game of Thrones and the order of players stays or are we going to be seeing something different? Because that was something earlier that did trend in. So it looked like he was under the impression he was playing as player two, which happened to be not the case.
    492:54
    Yeah. I mean, yeah, if you don't even get a chance, that is always heartbreaking, actually. Yeah. I didn't I didn't know about that. Well, from what he I I spoke with him very briefly. He played fourth player on the first, then third player in the in the second round, and then it indicated to him from what he looked at on his phone that he was the second player, but that was apparently not the case. Um, but I don't know all the details, so that was just I don't For me, I I've definitely been in a tournament before someone else plays out a turn like as you know, ball one, and I'm like, let's not tell anybody. Let's just play it like this. It's fine. Yeah, especially in a game like this that doesn't really matter. It's not you're not you don't set anything out. Yeah. It's all you're not going to do something different just because someone else has a gargantuan score. Like your strategy doesn't change now on a game like Monster Bash. Yeah. Your strategy changes, right? You might pick up that multiball now or oh, I need a big score. I need to bring in, you know, a monster. That that's the difference. Modern games it's a little bit different, right? Yeah. like 90s on I wouldn't but 80s and before especially on a lot of the older games you can also not prepare because the game state resets between balls. Um so even you know there's Yeah. Well, I guess rules are rules. So Sure. That's why I don't I don't I don't I don't say anything. So then no one has to enforce rules. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad I'm not a TD because you're always going to make somebody unhappy. Anyways, sorry we kind of just talked over that first ball, but we're going to pay attention on this one. It's weird how that drop targets only like to do the the left two. It's interesting. Um, it depend. So, what I found earlier out playing is there is definitely a sweet spot where you can uh swipe all three. If you actually overdo it, it tends to rattle up there and you get nothing. Interesting.
    494:55
    I I found uh I could only do the two, which is fine. Whatever. Oh, hot the flipper. Wow. Got to be kidding me. Oh, ladies, that is rough. Gross. The ball was a little bit out of control there. Just kind of did the vertical, you know, did the Z-axis, found away. I don't think I've seen it on that game yet. Not on this game. Stars, it's commonality. Oh, here's a rare sight. Yeah, first and third. Yeah, literally have not seen that. Okay, so we're aiming for the one that's going to give uh bonus and also progress towards the award that is lit the bottom, which I forget what it is. I've seen a lot of people's trying to go for those targets on the right and swiping then. Yeah, the targets on the very right are the um bonus multipliers. So that's very good. And it carries from ball to ball. So ball one. Yeah, like that's that would be try to get it out of the way and lock it in for the whole game. Yeah, they're very late on the flipper though and you're kind of sending the ball left and right which out of control. Yeah, it's it's not great but you can get away with a few. See what he does here. That flipper hop. He knows what you're shooting shooting at. That flipper hop works. Now, I feel like he has tightened the tilt on this before we started for this tournament because you could get away with a little bit being dangerous um because it's bouncing out there in the outlines quite a bit and nudge it back in. I don't think you have a lot of option this time. Okay, so now it's lit for uh the the drop targets on the side are now lit for bonus multiplier cuz he cleared it. When you collect the bonus on the left lane, does that multiply it too? I don't know. Sure. Yeah, let's say yes. It doesn't really matter on this game because it's way too hard to do it anyway. But nobody seems to be going for the stars up there so far.
    496:51
    Uh yeah, I I I don't think the points are that valuable and you have to do it right anyway. Well, I mean the spinners are ch you know, he chooses all his spinners. So, if you end app one, it's kind of a weird feed. Well, everything in this game is a weird feed. I don't know. I say just do what the game is telling you to do. Like what feels right at that moment, do that. Excuse me.
    497:27
    Sorry. We're being taught how to There we go. man the station correctly. All right. Because evidently we don't know what we're doing. No. Soon as uh daddy's out of the house, um the kids don't know what to do anymore. Yeah, pretty much. What we we know pinball and he has one more drop target. This the fifth one.
    497:52
    Oh, finds his way. Wow, that's that's super valuable right now. Okay. Oh, has one more drop target on the side. That will give him three eggs. And he's definitely going for it. Oh, I would for real. For real. And the drop target at the top would do it, too. Mhm. Okay, there we go. Got it on the rebound there. Yeah. And clears the uh drops at the top.
    498:19
    And he's on his second uh play through on the one through five. His collect bonus is lit on the far left. He's getting pretty much everything done that is to do in this game. Lights out. Okay. Oh, okay. Now, yeah, you know, send it. Just send it. Do what is working for you. You know, don't you don't want to stop the ball if you feel like you're in the flow. Okay. It's interesting he's not going for the bonus collect though. It Well, it's not easy and you're sending the ball towards the left out lane. I I mean it's way worse right now, but you know, he's playing comfort right now. Yeah. Right. Well, just keep racking up the points. Yeah. Shoots what shoot is shoot what's comfortable. So that's 4x. Yeah, he finished one other one. I don't think it goes any higher. He does not want to tilt. This is This is a lot of points. I mean, it's already a lot of points and uh he's look he's looking at 400k in the tank here. 400. He's shook that shook that a bit, but uh gets away with it. He's going to end up with 900. That's going to put him in a real comfortable position there. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Ball one. Okay, that is a full game right there. Yep. All right, but Chad's up. He's going to plunge and we're going to see what happens with those drop targets. Chad needs to do well here. I've seen Chad clear the top more than anybody. Okay, he has one more for his bonus multiplier. Oh, it does go to 5x. Thank you, Chad.
    500:02
    Gets that bonus multiplier uh readied. So, now he has to clear. Always forget that you have to clear twice.
    500:11
    That ball was almost as good as the Jaws code. Welcome to the chat. Um, audio enslaved.
    500:23
    Yeah, almost. Almost. Strong second, maybe. See what Carlos is doing here. He gets the usual two.
    500:33
    All righty. I always I am so curious what happens if you don't flip the side flipper. I would never, but I might walk over there and try it out. Yeah. Just see what happens. It's amazing once you like someone unlocks that and then everybody's like, "All right, that's the that's what we're doing now." I'm sure somebody did this in practice and figured that one out. Nope. No, probably never. Cuz who practices cheetah? No, never me. Uh, okay. Found the in lane. It's going to flip towards the multipliers and that's just going to go wrong. Okay. Having a Jaws launch party tonight with friends, movie and new code. That's fun. There Jaws is like free on YouTube right now. Really? Yeah. All three movies. So if if you're wanting to watch Jaws, now is the time. Fourth of July. Fourth of July. Yeah, it's fun. And by the way, I don't think that there is a final final wizard mode that what is in that update is the final wizard mode. I don't understand why people are so gung-ho about wanting to collect everything in the game to unlock the final wizard mode. I think Keith is trying to get through games faster cuz he doesn't want to be standing there forever to get to the final. Um, but you can and then it will be more valuable. So, you get the choice. Great. That was an awesome incredible. Oh, good slap save there, too. And keep in mind that the tilt is pretty tight on that one. So that was perfect. Making it look loose here. All right. Aims for that. Nope. No. Ah. Yeah. So misses his shot there and gets punished for it. But you can get punished for a maid shot, too. I mean, it's a it's a either or. Well, so after we have uh Jeremy here way in front, race for for around second place. Hero is very tight still, but this I want to see another full bonus uh collect there. All right, nice lane. Sneeze that last five. He's just dialed in on this machine and he gets his uh more bonus.
    502:54
    Okay. Oh, that almost hopped the flipper there. Opts to live flip that away. Gets that last five that he's been looking for. gets it twice for good measure. I haven't seen him actually cradle a lot and he's definitely going for that now. Yeah, for uh all the reason like there's not much reason. I don't know what the yellow is for if he wants to clear one through five again. But you can see how that shot it's just not the right geometry for this for this machine, this copy. Tries it again. It is very very late on the flipper. Yeah. And even then though, you're kind of bricking the wall and you have to get this weird Yeah. You barely get up there. I I I actually managed to do it a couple of times before. Yeah. Intentional. But it was like the game was very forgiving and I got many tries for it. It's so interesting that Jeremy is really going for that now when before he was so, you know, loose. Oh, and there is that 5x light. I just did not see it before. All right, flips away at that. Nudge it off the wall. Oh, that was an incredible dig. I I That was a scary feed. You You could see it from up there. You're like, "Oh, I want to give that a little nudge off that wall. Keep it safe." Well, you have to be careful. You don't want to tilt your bonus away there. That's a lot of points. High a high tap. It's fine. It's fine. And I think Jeremy is not afraid to move the game along. Now he's he's he's putting some he is very very comfortable with with that game right now and it rewards him. And there we go. All right. So that is with multiplier. Jeez. A that puts him way ahead of the competition. This is this is basically rolling the game twice basically.
    504:45
    All right. Aggressive flip there, but not that it really matters. I don't know if anyone can catch this. Look at this spinner that's worth 3,000 right now. Wa. Okay. And and and that's the main thing. That's why you want to go for those. It's not lit right now, but okay. Does it anyway? Oh man. Misses there. I really want to see this spinner. You can't shoot it from here, though.
    505:09
    There is something. I don't think Can you pulse pass on this one? It doesn't look like it. The angle's a little close. It's like rush.
    505:20
    Okay. Has an extra ball lit, too. Why not? You know, just for just for kicks. And the It looks like the bonus collect is lit again. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. I know you have to do something to re-qualify it. It's not like uh in the original code where you can just keep doing it all day long. Yeah. Which I I can appreciate for sure.
    505:47
    Which Whoa. Uh give it back to him. There we go. Oh, close. Close. Yeah. Okay. Doesn't No. A little early there. It had a weird pop to it. Oh, okay. Doesn't like, but he's definitely trying for it. Oh, I'm like, Jeremy, settle. Settle. He has not been grabbing the ball. He's playing everything on the fly. Does not need to. Sometimes you're fighting the game and that's when you have to. And but when you don't have to fight the game, you just you just let it you just let it go. Wisely flips that. Ah, that was close. I He has been close like a couple times now. Eventually, it's going to fall in there. Oh, into the into the trunk. Yeah, unfortunately. That is quite Oh, just short of three. Yeah, that Wow. So, the highest score ever is 3.7. Yeah, he's getting close there. So, he got another ball. Can try another time. There is one more ball to be played. Yeah, that's so crazy. What? And he did the full sweet. So, it's definitely He found the sweet spot now. All right. But, you know, the three other players are still playing for a lot of points here. It's important not to get last. Last would hurt a lot. Jeremy, uh, Jeremy Jeremy, excuse me, Chad here might not lose. I forget. His ball two was so good. I remember his ball one was really bad, but his ball two was really good. All right, Carlos here going to do some flipping. It's his favorite activity, so I hear. Well, Carlos wants to get at least second. So, six points on the board and then Jeremy, six points on the board. That's going to put both of them in a really good position. Actually, that would probably clinch it for both of them, right? Oh, that that was the the difference was between Jeremy and and Carlos here was the that flipper need for control where Jeremy was like, I don't want I don't want it. I'm not interested in it. Flip that away. And Carlos, he's wanting to, you know, play pinball here and uh, you know, have a little bit of more control there. All right. So, Carlos is looking at a last here now. We're looking for 100k and we're not going to find it there. Not going to find it. That's That's going to be close. Oh, wins by eight. That That's rough. That's rough. All right. So, we're going to have a walk-off here. Unless he wants to play. I mean, I I would I would blame him. Yeah. I mean, he is going to roll it. I mean, well, get get another get here. Well, he would have. He would. He would. We all know. Do you know what the third we were here for? Game of Thrones. And that's why that's why I'm here. Where's the mouse? There we go.
    508:53
    I don't think that's right. Nope. But at least it's not confusing.
    509:07
    There's a second Game of Thrones. There we go. Sorry for that. Now we have the right one. And it looks like the scores got already updated and the order as well. So we got 6431.
    509:27
    So at this point, can Chad if it force a tiebreaker for second if it if it shakes out right? I think so actually. Um, if he wins, Jeremy gets second. Justin third. Actually, that would that would move him through. So, yeah, there's definitely everybody got still a chance. There's definitely uh Yeah. Uh,
    509:58
    Okay. Always the most interesting part of the game is which house do you choose? So, which strategy do you go for on this game? Baratheon all the way. All right. What does that do for you? Baratheon gives you an outlane ball save with the button. You have to do the button before it hits the switch though. No nice stuff that we threw in in Jaws with uh having a grace spirit on it. Did that come from missed opportunities on this game or No, it wasn't there initially and people felt like yep, that's why you need the brow. Um people felt like uh Jaws was uh slow like they're like I hit the button but the button has to be released. So that that difference like this one it's on the down press I think because there's no reason for for the game to be listening for a long so it only needs to know about the down but on Jaws it it matters because a long press has to do with the flip lock. Um I threw in some extra code to make it so that well if flip block isn't lit then just do it on down press so you have that reaction like really quick. But games like D and D, it always has to care about the long press. So that's why the shield, some people feel like it has that delay because it is delayed. It's from the up press, which is needed because we don't know if it's a long or short just by hearing a down press. We need to wait for you to release the button. You probably can say yay or nay to that. Uh was it was it like the first time you used the left lane out uh outline ball save? it gives it you even if it has passed it already but then from there on out you actually have to hit it beforehand. Um yeah I think there's still some grace but the grace just shortens until it is just completely zero. Does Bond have any of that press difference? Um if if the button has a long press uh function then yes it will have can steal the ball I believe right? Isn't that a long press? it if it if it has a long press anywhere in the game, then it will. Uh the coder would have had to put some special code to differentiate and do some extra stuff. I don't I don't know if they did it for Bond. Oh, yeah. You're right. You are pinball. It's like green and pink, right? Where you can switch between Mothra. Um, no. I think they might have put in extra code to do the check if Godzilla had uh the um ray lit because it only cares about long press if the ray is lit. But Rick might have not done that extra step to check. So, I don't know. Okay. But I do like the choice here for for Baratheon.
    512:31
    Uh yeah, Venom wouldn't know. It would have to know the the up press.
    512:37
    Is this normal lighting on Game of Thrones? Looks great. Uh, it is such a pretty game. It helps. The rig has extra lights to light up the playfield. So, that that's what you're seeing here. Okay. Carlos is a Baratheon fan. Love to see it. It also helps go towards your wall. Gets 2x playfield started on his upper playfield, which is nice. He's going to be picking off these targets. gets 3x now. Okay, I'll be interested if he tries to get up um quickly. Okay, he's going to do some great joy progression.
    513:17
    Do you actually go for the multiball locks on the right side or just ignore them on this game? That's silly. If you're I do not play this game for multiball. I'll play it for what he's doing right here. Starting Baratheon, you want to shoot the spinner, max it out 150, then shoot the wall into and then into the drop targets. You have to hit the drop targets. Just one of them will do. And that's your collect.
    513:45
    Boy, oh boy. Oh boy. Nice dead bounce. Chill maneuver. He's going for the wall, hovering his hand over the Baratheon button because you have to do it quick. But it is on down press, so gets that safe. Saw a mile away. All right. It needs to get the ball over to the right. Opts for the spinner. Gets more boost. Oh, and now it's out. Scary. Scary. But he got it under control. Has to hit this wall. Huge drop targets. Need the drop targets. Here it is. Here it is. Bam. 150. Look at that. Huge. Huge. Okay. 139. Okay. Close enough. Huge. Let's go. That was huge. All right. So, now you have the rest of the game to do. After that, you you're feeling like, "Okay, I'm in control here. Let's Let's do some other stuff. So, he's qualifying Greyjoy. He needs one more shot on the left orbit. Stark is a good shot, too. Also just making progress towards Castle. So, he's got Great Greyjoy lit. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to skip through Greyjoy and tries to get another mode stacked in, but we will see. He's trying to get another lock or maybe trying to get his out lane lit. I I wouldn't I I don't know what that shot was. It's okay. That was a good first ball. He did what he needed to do, which was play Baratheon. Well, and you get only one opportunity on that.
    515:07
    That is how I I play this game pretty well and that in my mind I'm like, get through Baratheon. Do the thing. All right, cool. Now we just have the rest of the game. Uh there's a lot to go for, you know, everything except Blackwater Multiball. Even though that does have one of my favorite call outs of Jackpot and Super Jackpot, it's just way intense. I love it. Jackpot. So, it looks like Chad is going to be short plunging, not going up. I mean, he is. So, okay. So, he's selected Martell. He has Martell lit on the center ramp. And that's that's a valuable mode. So, he might just be thinking about that. Or, you know what? Just do the right. You know what? I actually do want it up there. Okay. So, kind of kind of getting a little squirly here. Okay. He's maybe he's wanting to do some stack action. Martell can be pretty valuable all on its own. I've seen 300 million from it by itself. Oh, you got to tell that game is set. Super dies. Yeah, but uh that's the risk you take when you choose Martell. Martell is a strat that it just doesn't, in my opinion, work very well on this copy. The tilt is so tight, the the locks are on hard. uh you know and you're not going to really be benefiting from all that motel is unless you get into a multiball. So So would you So you say you're just not going to take any heat off the Blackwater multiball, but that doesn't include the other multiballs like the castle. Castle's dangerous because I mean you're you're hitting into a dangerous shot that's tight. Plus I mean you're not getting the the extra shot, whatever. and he's choosing to short plunge. So, he's not getting that castle uh progress. So, it's it's it's a tough multiball cell when you're It's like something if it's if you got close to it maybe on the third ball something to go for. Well, you have to ah he misses the button there. Oh, and tilts anyway, so it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um so, yeah. I mean, like he just It's You're not It's hard to do it all in one ball. It's hard to do the castle in one ball. Yeah. Um, but I mean you can especially if you can if you can backhand that right ramp then you know you're going to be safer for it, but I I haven't seen anyone backhand it yet. I don't know how these flippers are playing. Yeah, old school strats versus new school strats. That might be it. Okay, aiming for the castle there. That's that's going to get his playfield X and also spot a shot. Uh, this is this is good, too. He's definitely trying for the multiplier here. There it is. Boom. So you got that that lane and then shoots it on the fly for the for the multiplier. Very well done. Go again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. 2x for that target. It's a tough target. A little tricky. All right. Squirly gets it back under the control by flailing at that left orbit. So do you pay attention to the multipliers actually when you're in the modes and everything? Oh, the the shot multipliers if you really want to some some of the modes it's important to pay attention to that. Yeah. Like Martell. Um, but for something like Graphian, no way, Jose multiplying the drop targets. So,
    518:23
    okay. And yep, get Yeah, I think that was a shot to the spinner. A little bit hard to tell. Goes for the the button when he doesn't need to. So, this is where I'm like, "All right, shoot, shoot." Like, be out of control. You know, if I if if I need to use it, maybe it will last. But it's okay. He uh he did what he needed to do except he didn't shoot that spinner enough. So the value cash out wasn't very high. Hey, look at that. He got reit by clearing the drop targets again. So that's nice. Tyron is the one that gives you the shot multipliers from the jump. Uh yes. So um that one that one is is a in lane multiplier. So there's like combo multipliers going on that you can see on the screen and then there's a shot multiplier on the end lane that you get from Tyrell which is extremely valuable. But it takes a piece of your brain and I feel like I need that brain space for other things.
    519:21
    Okay, good. Hit off the wall. Okay, gets that back cuz he cleared the drop targets for Lord of Life. Very nice. Okay, so we're in Lannister here. This is uh it's it's fun to be in this mode when you're in multiball because it involves standup targets, but he's doing a good job of surviving him and lighting his shots. Uh yeah, so that shot you have to know so early that you need to push the ball off of that elongated wall to send it to the right flipper, but that one just kind of dribbled out to the center drain.
    519:55
    All right, Carlos, see what he's going to do. Yeah, this is what we call the rest of the game. Okay. Gets his 2x going. Very nice. Shoots it again. 3x. Heck yeah, dude. Yep. Get some drops now. You want You want this to matter. You can get a lot of points up here, too. Really? And and castle can be very valuable. All right. Gets that for free. He's on his last stage. So, think about it. Think about it. Maybe maybe post catch here. the right ramp. Yeah, I thought so. I was like, Carlos is going to be thinking about shooting that center ramp again, stacking it with Lannister. Easy. Now you play. Okay, so here what he's going to be doing is thinking about Greyjoy and hoping for Lannister. You know what I mean? Except an upper play field is a thing. So, you know, you can just play up here. So, super fun. Well, it's definitely safe up there. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, there we go. Getting some picking off some shots now. And needs that last shot. Boom. Done. Easy. All right. So, that's the silly premium strat. Uh, we saw it. We can move on. Now has one more target for Castle Multiball. Okay. Almost got him. His hands off of Flippers is always scary. This is the hardest target cuz that rubber is blocking it a bit. See if he can forehand it. Ah, just early. I thought he had it. Clipped it. Does he need the ones in between for the last round as well? Um, we'll see. But I mean, that's like free, you know? You just do it without thinking if you have to. All right. Okay. Okay. A little later. Makes the adjustment now. Just needs to get it up in there. He gets it back cuz he just heard multiball. My goodness, that was and this is good actually. Like I I agree with the strat that he clearly did of draining so you can get all the balls up into the upper play field for free. So his upper play field, he's got 3x on that. Now these are these are going to be some huge jackpots that we're going to be seeing and he gets to play. This is this is the rest of the game, folks. This is it. This is how you do it. Hope you're taking notes. Where's the edible on this if there is any? Uh, no. Yeah. No. No. Um, no. I don't know. If I gave a guess, you have to like clear everything and you get a you kind of get a reset. I don't know. We're here. So, he's got his upper play field 3x, lower player field at 2x. If he shoots that um ram he builds it might be might be kind of taking shots at it. I don't know. But a little bit of a tricky situation here. Okay. Okay. There we go. Nice separation. Okay. What does he do? Oh, it wants to backhand the left orbit which is is kind of a gimme. It's a gimme.
    523:09
    tries to hit on the fly, gets bored and wants to keep his playfield multiplier up and double it. Ouch. It's super fun to watch though. I like it. There's an addal in the pop slots. Thank you. I think this is the first game with pop slots. Right. This was before Ghostbusters, right?
    523:32
    I know. I'm pretty sure Dwight is the one that invented pop slots. Am I making that up? No, you're right about that. But I don't remember if Ghostbusters was before this. Oh, I don't know. I think he also was one of the Dwight was one of the first to go in ball safe. That I wouldn't know. I think so. I think uh I think T2 might be the first game to have, you know, ball safe flashing at you. Oh gosh. Tilted all three balls. Not going to happen.
    524:08
    Who done it was the first? Okay. Still still Dwight. So weird. Did Who Done It predate um T2?
    524:25
    I'm not firm on my history there. So your guess is as good as mine. I'd believe it. I think that was the first game that he was a lead on, but I don't know if it was the first game he worked on. I think he has been in the industry long longer than that. I that I pretty sure what it's close. It's around there. It's around that time. It's like T2. Yeah. Who done it? There's one game that predates all of this. I think that one is Sharkies Shootout. Okay, then I got that completed. That one I think he kind of jumped in late or something. Do I definitely the first to code in unskippables? you don't want to play. I don't think that's true. Oh, no way that's true. Data East in general uh has those littered everywhere. Okay, so he gets through that phase. I'd be eyeing that just to get some padding. Oh, he hasn't played Brathian. Play Brahan. Okay, shoot the spinner. F14 is well safe. Oh, yeah. That you are insured. I always feel like they turn that off or something so I never like sense it being a thing. Does it have a light? Does it have a light?
    525:41
    It does. I'm pretty sure because it was broken at Phoe's house, I thought. Oh, yeah. Cool.
    525:55
    All right. So, the uh Justin has to catch a bill. If not, then uh he's he's keeping second. So, this is, you know, you got the whole game in front of you. This is where some fun can really happen is when you know you're safe for second and you just have to shoot for first, right? Oh, but that is a tall order on that score. Yeah. No, do it. Do it. Do it. The padding is the hard part. The billion's the easy part.
    526:30
    Okay. Okay. Okay. Center rampit. Do you choose Lannister on his own? Pass. Not interested. Nope. He picked it. Okay, never mind. We're interested. We are so interested. We're here for it. And get it to the upper play field. Okay. Yep. Use the button. And here's the feed from the right orbit. I kind of thought it was going to go into the upper play field. Okay. Backhand. Back hand ramp. No. Okay. No. Four hands center ramp. Silly me. I hate it when players don't do the thing that I prescribe. Makes me look like a silly goose. I'm not a silly goose. You got the perfect strategy, but not everybody may know that. No, I have a I have a fine strategy for this particular game. I can't play Game of Thrones anywhere else. All right. Gets that cleared out. So, he's got the rest of the game ahead of him.
    527:30
    He definitely wants to advance for the castle multi boil. All right. Ah, splits the difference. Oh, that Oh, we could have had it. Didn't Well, that was really fun. I'm glad that we saw Game of Thrones. This is one of my favorite games. It's just so much to do and it's it's kind of easy to understand. You know, it has the typical shoot this shot three times qualification. We've seen it attack from Mars. That is true. But you can play this a long time and not have a lot of points to show if you don't know what to do in which order. That's true.
    528:11
    Getting a text from somebody. Oh. Oh, there's a bug at the end of search multiball apparently. Really? I don't know. Someone messaged me that. So, everybody get on that. Okay. Okay, Carlos is doing a victory lap. Uh, that that's huge. So, we have Carlos and Jeremy advancing to the next round. So, they Congratulations. They made it into the finals. I want to see Iron King. I don't want to see finals. Iron Throne, Hand of the King, whatever. I do want to know how the other group is doing though. Now, that is something um we need a little bit of help with. Are they still playing? I don't know, actually. I don't I don't know.
    529:03
    So, now let's watch the victory laps here in the meantime and then have Justin jump in here again. So, yeah, I can I can head out. No, I can. I don't I don't mind. I mean, watching all this Game of Thrones is making me want to play some Game of Thrones. game of trolls. Well, it's not over yet. So, you have still some to watch. But yeah, play Stark. We definitely want to see and then play Hand of the King. Good. I don't care about ball five. I care about ball three of Game of Thrones. I really like this game. I really do.
    529:38
    It It It has the perfect amount of pinball in it. I think it doesn't go overboard. There's there's six really wellthoughtout modes, very individually unique, and then there's two wizard modes and then three multiballs. It's all it needs. It's all It's all that pinball needs. What's that? A number of modes. Two wizard modes and three multiballs. Just keeping it nice and simple. And that's what I appreciate about this game. Yeah. Whoa. All right. Gets into his hand of the king here. Um,
    530:16
    did he? That is so fast. Is this hand of king? That is That is crazy talk. All right, we're completing all shots. We are shooting the wall. Shoot. Go for the wall. Okay, we're on ball three, player four, right? Yeah, this doesn't matter. He Oh, he's just doing it for funsies. Okay, we And we like funsies. We're here for funsies. I like funsies. I will never argue with extra pinball. All right. It sneaks in the last shot there for 10. Um, you know, I'm glad we got there. I'm glad we saw it. And he's not he's going to light Targaryen. Oh, he's almost got to the wall.
    530:55
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stay has walllet, I think. Or he needs one more.
    531:03
    Oh, there's a tiebreaker in group two. Oh, really? Okay. I I wouldn't mind watching it. Yeah. But you know what was so much funner? What's funner? Was when there was ball one ball tiebreaker. I know. Remember those of rocks? Remember those? So cool. If everybody plays balls one and two really bad, it become like ifa rules disallow that or something like Yeah, they did. They said no. No. Cuz they ate fun. Yeah. And hype. This was the the special thing that only we knew about. That's right. It united us together and now we can't do it. I can see why one ball playoffs were not so popular with some because it does suck if you just happen to have a bad ball and well what if I happen to have a bad game like what then? I'm with you. Why Why does Josh Sharp hate fun so much? You are 100% not allowed to have fun. Yep. All right. Um so I wonder if we can go over to that tiebreaker. Take a second and see. But but the wall is ready and and some Oh, you just want to see Lo blow it up even more. And he's lighting Targaryen. This is when he starts getting 200 million a shot. And he's got his locks lit, which one lock is hard because impossible. Nice little pass there. We're in Tarks and Marks. Tark. Tarks and Marts. It sounds like a appetizer. Yeah, it is. This is just the appetizer. Good point for the finals. Oh no, he's going to have to till Oh. Oh, someone TD. Oh, okay. We're good. Oh, thank God. Oh, no. And he misses the center because he got out of his flow. He does have multiball lit on the right orbit. Just want to point that out. Just want to point that out. He also has Wait, what's lit on the right orbit? Multiball. Which one? Wall. Wall. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got Wubble. He's got Wobball. Wobbop. Let's play some Waw Bop. Yeah, I have the best rules for Wobball. Oh, he still has his button lit. Okay. Oh. Oh, no. Tar's got him. Tar's got him. That was all TS wasting away in Targaryavville. This is Brad. Yeah, I love it. So close game between Carlos and everybody else. He only won that one by one and a half billion points. Yeah, wall ball was a great school game, but I feel like everyone had their own rule set on playing the game on wall ball. I don't even know what it is. I don't think we played talking about what you got a ball. You got a wall. Okay. What game did you do when those two things were you threw it against the wall and then somebody else tried to catch it, but you also tried to catch it and then whoever caught it, they throw again. Okay. Well, this is the better rules. Everybody listen up. This is how you play wall ball like Northern Kentucky style. And you would you would do that. You throw it, try to catch it. If you bobbled and dropped it, you had to go and touch the wall before someone else picks it up and throws it at the wall. You had to beat the wall. Oh, wow. Yeah. If you if you uh if you didn't get to the wall in time, Yeah. then you got a strike. Okay. Um the another way you get a strike also is if they threw it and it um got past everybody and there was this giant hill and it rolled down the hill. Yeah. person in the farthest back would have to run and get the ball. And if they throw, they have to throw it back and hit the wall. Okay. Before it bounces. Wow. From all the way back there. And if they miss, they get a strike. Okay. That puts a lot of pressure on that last person who really had nothing to do with the action until this moment. Well, it's safer to be far because then you have more time to catch it. I see. Um, but you don't want to be you don't want to be as far. You don't want to be the last person. So, someone might like target you by like, you know, whipping it all the way down. over your head. Yeah. So, so you want to be back, but not that far back. You got to have somebody else who's willing to be more back. More back. Yeah. That's pretty clever. Yeah. And then once you get three strikes, the only way to get back into the game is to get pelted by the ball against the wall. Oh. But most of the time we would miss and that would it was a one and done. So you would just line up against the wall. Yeah. And just hope they don't hit you. Yeah. And that's how you get back in. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You just have to be game. You have to be game. I'm tracking. And that was our rules for W ball. We would play with a whiffle ball. Not whiffle ball. A um pickle. No, not a pickle ball. A uh raet ball. Oh. Ow. Yeah. Or a tennis ball. Yeah, that could raball could hurt. So, anyone in the chat if you played by my rules, uh, you know, comment. If you didn't, then don't comment. No, I want to know how they play. Yeah. Different rules for playing wall ball. I want to hear wall. It is really barely played wall ball. Hey, everybody. You can see us back there, too. Hi. No. Yeah, people. She's over there. Yeah. I uh people would uh yeah, play ball differently. Uh the other thing that people had different ways of going about is um that one like you'd sit in a circle and you would like clap and it would go around and then you like clap like clap each other. Crocodil. We did not have this game. Crocodil. We are from different generations and that is becoming apparent to me. And then Chile and my Chico Chico Chico. Raacha cha follow and then you count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 and then when it gets to 10 the person would try to get you and if you got your hand away in time and they clapped themselves then they were out but if they clapped your hand then you were out and I was only on 10 but the the tune changes based off of where you are really complicated like Sally in your this is Ross and Roy to make finals Ross and Roy who's going to make finals Okay. Okay. We had a similar game where you held out your hands like this and tried to slap. Oh yeah. Yeah. That this is just like an elongated form. When I was a kid, we had a game called um work in the coal mines where you had to go work in the coal mines. That's crazy, dude. It's crazy. I'm not that old. Not that old. If you caught the ball off the wall, whoever threw it, it was a got a strike. Oh. Oh, wow. That's That's If you threw it and hit the ground before the wall, you had to tag the ball as well. That's so interesting. thought the ball got a strike. Yeah, that that's crazy. But this is an important game that we're supposed to be paying attention to. This is ball four. We're watching. This is a tiebreaker. Roy and Ross to decide who's going to finals. You decide. We haven't seen Ross on stream much tonight. So, very cool that we get to see this game. Oh, that spinner. Even if you hit it right, that's as many spins as you get anyway. Yep. Hello, Tigerfly. Nice to see you. Okay, maybe be as always. How much does this guy got? 4,000. I guess that's four. Yep. All right. Center drain stopping at 60. So, we're going into ball five. Final ball. Ross is up by 29,000, which on Stars is not necessarily a whole lot of points. Yeah, it it uh this game it's weird. I do love it though. Okay. Okay. He is unvalidated. He is validated. Okay. Fighting that nervous on that one. Let's go. And that was three bonus advances. Okay. Little sling hill. Okay. Gets another star. Oh no. Oh, don't move it. Don't move it. Don't move it. Don't move it. Just call somebody over, dude. Just call somebody over. You're in a a high stakes situation. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if that is considered to be coaching, but like we're here to not have some stupid rule make him tilt. Okay, someone get Eric. Yeah, bring over. I've seen this a few times and it has tilted other players. People trying to get it off of the button. If I remember, and I may not, the IPA rules say you have to make some kind of effort. Well, no. I've seen this before. I think IPA rules But I think he did make an effort and then Yeah. No, he breathed upon it. Okay. Yeah, you know if Come at me IPA. Yeah, your rules are silly. Come at me. Yeah, poor Josh. We're really giving Josh a hard time today. No. If you have seen, we love you very much. Twice now other players get a ball stuck on that and have tilted getting it unstuck. Then I say you don't have to make a move on it that you hold your hand up. I have thoughts. I have some notes. What part of TDing involves wiping your neck sweat on the glass? That seemed important to Eric, but I'm not sure why this game had um a water spill at the top. Oh, it did? Yeah, it was like in the top right. I think so. So, the way it works is you put the ball in the nearest flipper unless it was uh stuck basically while plunging, in which case it goes back in the shooter lane. Establishing dominance. I think I just saved his life there. You're welcome, Ross. You should pay me under the table later. He can't hear you, but he may have noticed your frantic hand gestures. No, it it was a thing. I he he he was like, "Yep, that's a thing that's been happening. We're going to take a look at it." And then if sucks. I think that was what the conversation was. What did the IFPA do to hurt you? Oh, look at that double. I feel bad. Roy is going to be pissed with me. Oh, nice. He picks up the double bonus. Yeah. Roy's coming for you. Yeah. Oh, good nudge. All right. Well, that mattered.
    540:23
    He's up to 114. So, it's Ro now. All right. Just Just play better, you know. Get the ball. Show me on the doll where Ipa hurt you. Oh, you got to be kidding me. Stars, I am not kidding. You got to be kidding me. Stars, that was rough. We're going to rename this game to IFPA. Oh, and it will have the same reaction. I'm being weird. I'm not I like IFPA. It's fine. The the points make sense and I like whoppers. And it's cool that we have some competitive stance. If not for our then who? Okay. For sure. Yeah. We can [ __ ] and complain, but like who else is gonna say, right? You know, we should be congratulating and high-fiving everybody that had to do with IFB game. Who was going to manage all of us whiners every time something happened? The the rule is is that you can complain about anything that you want. This is America. No, that's true. That's true. It's one of my favorite things about America. Yeah. But the rules also is that it will happen. Like you have to actually it's you have to. Yeah. Oh, Jaws came out with new code. Well, let me just complain about it. Yeah. I can't imagine how much coders and designers how much complaining you have to put up with. Just don't read the forum. Sometimes it's a surprise. Sometimes it's like, oh wow, it's like I didn't realize that was going to be, you know, a sticking point. It's kind of more of an interest of like, all right, let me see the thought of that and like dig in. Um, and then yeah, other ones it's just like sometimes you agree with him and you're like, "Yeah, you're right. Like I would have liked to have done that." Right. Right. Or maybe I should have and then you know you you fix your fix it in the next update or something. Well, let me put this out there. Hot take. Have you considered in the game Jaws? You remember that one? Jaws. I'm familiar. Okay. Shark eats a ball. Have you thought about that? I know nobody else has brought it up, so I wanted to be the first. Okay. Yeah. What if the shark were to eat the ball? Okay. Just sleep on it. I'm not I know not everybody would agree with me. Just something to sleep on. I still have the mech that eats the ball. Do you have one? Yeah, there's two that was made and I have one. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I need to get rid of it. Do you have to give it back at some point? Yeah, it's just a giant playfield that was sitting there. It never really worked. The boat never came up. Oh, Brad likes my idea. Okay. Yeah, we'll look into it. We'll look into Yeah, the thing. It's like for it to work properly, the boat like it it it didn't make an impact when the shark came up because it had to be in line with the playfield, you know, for it to go in. So like when the boat rose it was like is there something underneath there you know and right I guess yeah you make a different mold but now you have a now you have a weird looking boat got a different shape. Yeah stuff. I don't know. I don't know. Complain to Keith about it. I don't I'm not a designer. They should totally look into that. I don't know. It's funny when Oh Bad Girls. Do you want to stay here? Oh. What are we doing? Okay. Let's do it. All right. We're going to share with you guys how to play Bad Girls and then we're going to watch for our finals. Our first game on Bad Girls.
    543:21
    Let's keep it weird with some Bad Girls pinball. Off the bat, when you plunge, you'll go up to the top lanes, or you can short plunge and have it drop short of the top lanes, come back down to the upper flipper, and have an opportunity to shoot straight into the lock for multiball right off the plunge. When you hit drop targets down, that will increase your end of ball bonus and collect pool balls. Once you collect all the drop targets, the eightball target will light. Once you hit that down, you will collect a rack. You can collect up to three racks worth 50,000 a piece towards your end of ball bonus. You can multiply your end ball bonus by hitting the vera target over here to the right. You can get up to 10x bonus for a max end of ball collect of 1.5 million. Also, if you hit the verit target enough, you will light special. That's worth 500k at the Vera target. You can hit the right orbit for increasing awards up to 500,000 points. Also, while you're increasing those awards, these top lanes will light blue for a 100,000 points on the left and and 250,000 points on the right. You can collect pool letters, which are at the top lanes up here and the in lanes. Each time you collect pool, you will increase the value of the eightball target up to 500,000 points. To start multiball, hit the eightball target and then shoot behind that into the saucer. Once you're in multiball, the spinners will light for 20,000 points. Outside of that, the rest of the game is available to you. You can collect racks. You can advance your bonus multipliers and advance the right orbit values. Also, after you collect a rack, these spot targets behind the drop targets will light the rerrack mode. These inserts in front of the targets will start flashing. Each time you hit a target, it will increase the value. I've seen values over three million points for this rerrack mode. Very valuable. Go after this mode safely in multiball. Finally, the jackpot mode. Every 40 switches you hit in this game will light the pop bumpers. They will start flashing. Once you hit one pop bumper, you have to hit eight more pop bumpers before you hit any other major switch on the playfield or else they will turn off and you will lose the jackpot. The jackpot is progressive. This grows very slowly and is not worth going for. Finally, for real this time on your final ball, if you have a pitily amount of points, usually less than 200,000 points, if you drain straight down the middle here, you will receive a scratch award for 500,000 points. That's Bad Girls. That scratch award part at the end is just mindblowing to me that if you're having a bad enough game, Bad Girls feels bad enough for you that they'll give you a little bonus on the way out. That's wild.
    545:59
    All right, Frank is back with us. Welcome back. Thank you very much for having me. Absolutely. Phoebe just wrote me. So, I mentioned earlier cuz we were talking about um uh a light on F-14. Oh, yeah. And I said, "Oh, yeah. No, I remember this cuz it went broken at Phoe's house." And it I don't think it took 30 seconds. So, she wrote me. It's like, "So, what is what is broken on there?" I was like, "No, that was like two years ago." So, she wrote me back, "Oh, yeah. I'm worried." Um, because that was before the playfield swap. Oh my god. So, if you ever get a chance to see Phoebe's Pinball Palace, that is a event and a sight to be seen, right? It is such a great venue and I mean you can't you can do nothing but just love them because they're I mean we are so lucky here in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky and the Columbus area because we have so many people where this is a labor of love and they make it their homes and their machines available to people like me who couldn't see or you know play any of those machines. Um because I mean there's a lot of history in in this hobby for what is it u original pinball machines since like 1932 or something like that. So they have a collection built over decades restored them and um making them available for us to enjoy. So how lucky are we? Yeah, I completely agree. It's incredible. We've I mean as a big community we're lucky and to have Phoebe and Phoebe and Larry in their pinball palace. Yes. So just that is incredible. They're really spearheading the scene here in the Cincinnati area. Yep. Oh, and a tilt to boot. And a tilt to boot. Not what Junior was hoping for on his first ball. And if I'm close, I'm going to hang out for a second and let that cool down. Yeah. Yeah. So, who got to pick this round? Who was the first seat in this? That is a great question. I don't know. I I always assume player one because it's like most people's least favorite spot and they don't get to pick spot. That's very possible, but it would make sense. And I forgot to ask actually, Eric, how the order in each game is is is determined. So, I did not pay enough attention to this to deduce that his his approach to order is different than every other approach to order I've ever seen. So, I just let him tell me who's going to play when. All right. So, Los plunges off for our finals game on Bad Girls. Gave it a good nudge there. I didn't see a tilt warning. Nope. He had a chance to play this several times today, so I'm pretty sure he has figured out by now what he can get away with. I'm sure of that. I'm sure of that. And he did not have an amazing start tonight, but he has had an amazing second half. Oh, yeah. And you can never count Carlos Allen. I mean, there's a reason why he is so far up in the IFA rankings for sure. And once he catches his fire, like he's on, you know? Yes. He builds some of that momentum, that confidence, and and he just he will play the rest of the night well. Oh, that happens. Can you believe that? This happens a lot on this game. Watch this. It is a super quick eject. You have to left flipper up and that's it. Yeah. So, I'm surprised he because he definitely knows better. So when that once you plunge, you put your hand off that left flipper button and just keep it up. Yep. Um Yep. He lost them all. That is such a bummer. He might not have kept the flipper up only because he wanted to take care of that right ball and just sort of got lost in the in the moment. Yeah, but that is he got punished for that one rather quickly. So that's not going to happen to him again.
    549:59
    All right, let's see what Jeremy can come up with. Yeah, I mean, this game is a really wild game to start on just because it's not a familiar game for most players. It is by no means a standard tournament game because they're rare. But I would argue if you're like into those billiard themes, that's probably one of the best versions of those, right? if you look at the deluxe and things like that. So, you have a flipped layout. Um I I think I I really do actually enjoy that game. It's not very kind to me. Um maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment, but um it is definitely one of the best versions of this. Yeah. And I like the point you make about 8ball Deluxe cuz it really is a reversed version, right? These belong over here. This flipper belongs right here. You basically have these same two lanes. Your little bumper nest up here. There's an orbit on this side which in their case goes back up top. Yep. And then you have another orbit over here that goes back up top. But otherwise, very similar game. So I think doesn't Deluxe predate this? So I figure like they will just, oh yeah, this makes a lot of money. So we're just going to flip it and and go for it. I mean, Gotautle in this era was famous for sort of ripping off intellectual properties, things like Gold Wings for, you know, for Top Gun. Um, and Bone Busters for Ghostbusters, right? But in this case, they were like, "What if we ripped off another pinball property, but they made the game so fun, you just don't care." There goes another He did it, too. Guys, again, it's like the worst thing you can do, apparently, is start multiball. Well, all you have to do is keep that left flipper up. And I've done exactly this more than I care to admit. Um, I'm giving them another lost them all.
    551:51
    All right, the robot sent from the future dressed as Ross is ready to play and protect us all from Cybernet. And he's definitely going for the uh for a quick multiball here. He rosted them all. That's funny. I mean, this is the thing to do on this game is is go for that quick multiball. You'll see a lot of people just immediately going for that. But it has not paid off for two of our players. So far, not.
    552:25
    But those spinner shots become very valuable once you you you are in that multiball.
    552:35
    I can't quite find it now. Initially got it immediately, but so one of the strategies we talked about earlier today was just shoot the right orbit all day and build that value up and then collect that value, right? And if you do it enough, you can get up to a half a million point value up there, which honestly is sort of like the rerack bonus but more reliable. Yes. And uh we haven't seen people really taking that strategy. Well, it's dangerous cuz you know the feed out of the pops is very very erratic. So, it can kill you. So, as enticing that may be, um I I think that game is playing squirly anyway. They're trying to get a little bit more control underneath there. And usually the multiball gives you that because if one ball goes away, right, you have the other one. Oh my gosh, he did not get to play that. What a bummer. I think you're going to see on his third ball if he can get a hold on the ball. I mean, he's had two really tough ones. If he can get a hold on it, I think you'll see Chris take that strategy because he was the one that told me that that's the best approach. So, we'll see. We'll see. Well, now on the third ball, things change, right? There's those blue little lights over the inlines that give you some extra points, right? So, if you keep sending it up, not only do you get this, but if you get a little bit of pop bumper, um, you can make some nice points up there. Yep. Yeah, it's a good point. All right. And you're thinking of these blue lights up top. Oh, and we got He was going for the wire target. Interesting. So, okay, keep that flipper up. Yeah, this time now I think he I think he knew about it last time, but he was trying to defend with the other ball as well, and it just things got things got weird. All right, left flippers up. There we go. And an immediate immediate That's okay. He still has that other ball you can play with. So, just get the drop down again. There we go. And start restart your multiball all day long. There you go. Yeah, you can just keep doing it.
    554:46
    All right. Flip. Perfect. Flipper was up. Trap with the other flipper. Really nice live catch on the left. And he got his very target going. So, he got Oh. Well, got his 5x flashing on the very target. Didn't quite complete that. In lane, out lane. No, Moon walked that right out. He sure did. Yeah, I I don't know that that shots was intentional. I think he was just trying to handle it and it was too much. All right, let's see what Jeremy can do this time.
    555:19
    I don't think any of these players, maybe Ross, I don't think any of them are thrilled with their start. Oh, wow. Oh, come on. Nope. Not going to let him play. That's a house ball, boy.
    555:34
    All right. When you're in a finals, you're on ball two and you're at 484. Typically, I think that's kind of a little dodgy proposition. Right now, Ross is probably feeling a little okay about that because nobody is getting treated fairly by this. Now the thing is, so do you play it safe here and says, "Well, I'm going to take maybe a second or third and take my chances on the next couple of rounds, or are you going pedal to the metal and boomer?" Boy, I think just starting off because it's the first game, I would go for a second or third. I would play it a little safe. Although, I don't know if anybody's going to vary their strategy. I don't know if anybody's actually going to switch gears because of the current score. So, Junior is taking his plunge. If he doesn't hit a switch, he gets to try again. I don't think I've ever seen anybody taking that skill shot there, actually. Yeah. I don't I I don't think anybody I've ever seen actually making it. Oh, now it's it's validated. Okay, now he's playing. Yeah, that nobody ever makes that skill shot. I think you're exactly right. Now, see, he's lit at the top for I think a special that's worth 500,000. It did not. I don't He did not get it. No, I don't think so. All right, let's try again. He tries to chats over there. That is just dangerous. That is so dangerous. And he got he got away with it. There we go. Great ball. See those 500,000 get added there. So, he's now at nine and climbing. Well, nine almost a million. That does reset the ladder on the left, but boy was it worth it. We talked about that right orbit strategy. That's exactly what he's going for right now. Now, what's interesting to me is those blue lights are gone up there, and I'm not quite sure. I now they came back. Got leaves are strange, too, because you're aiming to hit the lit one. Yes, absolutely. the unlit one, which is really counterintuitive if you're used to most modern games. That's true for the yellow ones. For the blue ones, I think you actually have to roll over the lit one. Oh. Uh,
    558:01
    but that is a very nice spot to be on because we have seen that machine dishes out house balls like it there's like it's candy. The fact that he even got that play time Yep. means he had some control that our other players have not been lucky enough to have minus Ross.
    558:22
    All right. Nice use of the dead bounce. Slows it down. Looks like he's going for another multiball. Winning strategy so far. So, there we go.
    558:35
    And I would definitely full plunge it and see if Yeah, it it went just a little bit short, but you won. A and it's gone. Immediate drain again. That right out lane is hungry. So, he's going to go right back up top, knock down that drop target again is my guess, and go for that multiball again. He's trying. Although, now he's lit for 500,000 on the right order. Exactly. So, I think I figured it out where those blue lights are lit. If you're on the first uh depending which arrow is lit on the right side, it will light one of those blue lights up there. He went for the go for the very target instead of the right orbit. Do you think that was a miss or was that I don't know that he knows what that target is. I'm guessing I mean it's a half a million point target. Yeah, unless he knows something I don't, which is quite possible. Would the skill shot or will the plunge give that to you? I don't think so. I think you got to hit that one honestly.
    559:29
    man. And let's see what the bonus if it gets him ahead. Nope. Nope. Nope. Same problem, right? He's playing air defense. Ends up losing both.
    559:47
    That is such a bummer. And he has this winning shot lit. Just doesn't or can't get over there. I don't blame him. I mean, I didn't know this existed until yesterday. And maybe he knew and was trying something else. Los is an amazing player, really strategic, so I'm sure he knew what he wanted to do. And maybe that uh um that very target was his attempt to do it and he just was too early. Yeah, it could be too.
    560:21
    Okay, he definitely knew about the 500k. Okay. So, he was just either going for it and missed or was trying something else. Don't you cannot Yeah. If we've learned anything, you can't shhats that cuz if you go over, it's going out. Mhm. Well, but there was not a whole lot for him to do. I mean, that that was the dick save. I don't I don't think he had any options here. For sure.
    560:47
    Zmac, good to have you in chat, man. Love getting to watch you play, too.
    560:57
    Russ definitely on the fly just a little bit. All right, so it's going to be 1 2 4 three. It's going to be Chris Dit Jr. with the big win on that thanks to that 500,000 point shot. Carlos right behind and then Ross and Jeremy is picking up zero on this one. But it's just game one of three. We've seen it time after time. It is not decided until game three. That's right. Um, for sure. No, I'm sure Carlos wants that shot back, but he can't be hating his position. I mean, he still got two points out of out of the first round. Yeah. Yeah. I It was a frustrating process, but he did he managed to pull two points out of it, and it wasn't far off. No. What's up, Tilt? I'm wearing your hat right this very now. Oh wow. We're doing odds and evenings in the final. Wow, dude. Who picked that? I don't know if Eric did or can a would a human being pick that actually. So I do know these are some of Junior's favorite games. So Junior may have picked it. That is very positive. He likes the old games. He likes the classics. I do too. I don't blame him at all. Not even a little bit. I don't know if we're going to be
    562:18
    Do we have a mintorial for this one? Um, I don't know. Do we have an odds and evens? I don't know if we do. Let me see. That's a good question. Oh,
    562:34
    hey everybody. Let's learn some odds and evens. Starting off when you plunge, you try and roll over as many buttons as possible up top, which will light numbers in your grid below, whether they be odd numbers or even numbers. All even numbers are taken care of on the left lane via this saucer. All odd numbers are taken via the center saucer in the middle. You can either hit the buttons up top or shoot into either saucer with corresponding numbers lit to spot the numbers in the middle. Once you've collected all of your odd or even numbers, your saucer will light for 5,000 a piece for the rest of that game. Also, if you hit into the saucers, your center up post will come up. Be careful. The down post buttons are here. The ball rolls over that, your down your post will go down. If you hit little mushroom targets here on the left, these are worth a thousand a piece. If you happen to collect all your numbers here, the candy cane lane will open up at the top, which will award you 5,000 points and an add ball. Once you have your 5,000 saucers lit, the game becomes shooting into the center saucer as much as you can while controlling the kick out from the saucer to put it back in and continue to get your 5,000 collects. on this odds and evens. If you reach 35,000 points, 60,000 points, or 81,000 points, you will receive add balls for those scoring thresholds. That's odds and evens.
    564:06
    That's odds and evens in a nutshell. There's not a whole lot to it. Get your odds, get your evens, go for these center shots. And those addabals are so valuable. Yes, they are. So, typically we don't play extra balls here, but this has add balls, which we are playing, which basically are extra balls. It just means it's subtracting how many balls you have left. And this is now where you want to be. And once you figure out where this is on the on the flipper, you can just tap it in. And what you're going to be seeing is nobody's going to doing full flips here. You're just kind of like So, strong tap passes up into that because once you Yep. If you get side to side action, you get over the roll over button and then you're over. And this is a deceptively tight shot. It doesn't look like it, but you have to absolutely nail that. So, I'm going to put the score text up once they're done with each round in the chat and then you can uh look back on that. See that little tap pass? He's trying to get get up the flipper a little bit. There we go. Exactly. He's trying to get it up the flipper to the right spot so that he feels comfortable with the shot.
    565:17
    And I've seen this also. I feel like people are more comfortable with the left one on this one. And it doesn't look as Maybe it's because it's a little bit to the right. Uh, and that is something where I've done this before. Yeah.
    565:34
    I don't know where Daltton Eli is right now, but he needs to tune in because he's a big fan of the tap pass, and this game is nothing if it's not full of tap passes. So, you can see the balls to play here. The difference between an add ball and an extra ball is that we're counting down on balls to play. Yep. And that will, if you get the add ball, that number will go up by one and then it of course continues to subtract. And the interesting thing about this is if you roll the game, that resets those scores as well. So, if you hit, you know, if you hit 30,000, you get your first at a ball. If you roll the thing, next time you hit 30,000, you're going to get that add a ball again. Yep.
    566:18
    I think I believe uh Eric rolled it twice earlier today. He got like 210,000 or 211,000. All right. I like his middle finger done with his pinky fingers. 22690
    566:35
    is the number to beat. I've I've seen games where you get three house balls or four in a row and this may stand, but typically the players of that caliber I think you need 5060 usually to be in the race. Yeah, 22690 I don't think is going to hold. I don't think so either. Against me, sure. But against here, Carlos, Jeremy, and Ross, I'm
    567:26
    Ah, and that's how quick the those can go. And you can get a bunch of them in a row. For sure. For sure. I don't care how good you are, you're going to get a couple of house balls on a game like this. Yeah. If you get a little bit lucky, you may sneak one in from the top or side because once you have this this middle bumper up and the ball under control, that's when the game starts opening up for you. It's just that first one.
    567:56
    All right, there we go. Get some sling love here and get it back. And then if you get this right, you can pick it like he's doing. You get that bounce off that center post and it'll land on the flipper in such a way that you can flip right back up. He needs one more of his odd numbers for this um saucer to be worth 5,000. So, but he's almost there.
    568:23
    Or does he have it already and it's just not lit? And there is no timer on that. Oh, the five just isn't fully lit. So, he needs the nine. No, there we go. This didn't spot the nine. Why? I It should be. I don't understand. It should be spotting you as his his odd numbers. Anybody from Chad has insight into this? I was under the impression. Unless it's somehow counting them and we're just not seeing it lit. Well, no. Oh, he had it in there several times. The score would have to be way higher. No, I totally agree. Totally agree. He's getting 500, not 500 because the nine is lit underneath the saucer. So, okay. So, now now he can uh So, now it should Now he can get it. Got it.
    569:14
    So, was his five not lit before? It looks lit. There it is. He got it. Okay. So, now it's worth 5,000 every time. Almost knock out. Nope. Oh. Oh, man. So, you do not want to rattle the machine on this one because tilt actually ends the game on this one. Yeah.
    569:39
    And he got his 5,000. Got another one. And he has already passed Chris Junior.
    570:06
    A and it lips out. This is definitely mesmerizing. And we're not seeing points reported from game one, by the way. So, that's something that we'll have to make sure. And now he's on a roll. And I think he got already his first out of ball. And he may have been already getting his second one. Yeah, he's balls to play four now. Get Okay, so he just got the rollover button, so his safety bumper is gone. Nice job.
    570:59
    Now he's going to toss that to the out lane. So now he's down to three.
    571:11
    I mean, if I were him, I'd be sweating it, too. He's playing great, but finals are finals. Yep. And he just misses that roll over at the top. Almost got it. And again, if you can open up that top for a special, that's another add a ball opportunity. Plus, you can That is however a very I I don't think that's an easy shot. It's not. It's not an easy shot.
    571:35
    [Music] All right. So, he got six and he I think he got both. So, Oh, did he get it? It did. Specialist live. Yep. So he can go pick that up for an add ball.
    571:49
    And in this game, the add balls are everything. So you get more and more chances at that scoop. Now he's got the middle up. And just keep doing that. Very good. Just keep doing that. Yeah, you have to know right where it is on the flipper. And I think he's more or less figured that out. There you go. Little tappy pass. A little tappy taparoo. Yeah, once Carlos gets in a groove, he's almost unstoppable. Yeah,
    572:21
    there you go. That's the one he was looking for. Shoots a little bit off on that. Again, it's a deceptively tight shot. It doesn't look like it, but you really have to get it in there. Yeah. And it it like only doesn't look like it because he kept nailing it, but I cannot do that. I can't get three in a row like that.
    572:44
    And I would venture to say most players can't do that. Uhoh. Now that right out lane's got a vacuum on it. Yep. All right. So, he may not be going for that special. He may be just looking to cash in on that 5,000. There you go. There's a free 5k. Get a little bit of pop bumper left. Put it one more time up in there. Why not? Now, I don't know if Do you think you can get it from the pop bumper from to get into the special? I don't think the angle is is Ah, that would be difficult, I think. Yeah, I think that would be difficult.
    573:22
    Center of the sling is the problem. When it hits the center of the sling, it's aimed at those out lanes. So, you got to start nudging almost. Uh, that was a little bit too early, but the rebound. We'll take that one. And another one. Come on, boy. And he rolled it already once. Yep. This guy's on fire. And he's going to get another ball. And if he does it like a couple more times. Nice, dude. There we go. Got a ball added. So he picked up another addabal [Music] in his ongoing effort to burn up the flipper coil. [Music]
    574:08
    There you go. That's the shot. Ah, nope. Yeah. That's all right, bud. Great one. Really really good showing. Yeah, he got he got extra balls out of it or add balls out of it and a lot of scores. So, this is going his way. So, now we're back to two balls. It's two addabals added just during that last one. Well,
    574:38
    so just for people who tune tuned in, Carl was already rolled. So that should be 139,000 right now. Yep. This this remember this gives you a balls for score threshold as well. So you can pick it up on a special, you can pick it up as an award uh or you can get score threshold. Shouldn't that have given him another add a ball? Uh I don't know. Thought it was like around 60,000. Eric shared the total. I don't recall. Although he's sneaking up on another roll now. Yep.
    575:16
    Oh. All right. Well, that was it. How about 965 for Carlos? 965. 1965. 1965. Thank you. Now, that's going to be hard to beat. Yep, that was really, really strong. So, let me do this. I'm going to add this 1965.
    575:42
    Tracy already got it in chat. Oh, great. Okay. Oh my gosh, I even wrote Kaos instead of Carlos. So, there you go. Uh, glad somebody else got it right. Let me duplicate this.
    575:58
    Nope, not that. Not that thing. We want to duplicate this one. No, it refuses to do it appropriately. Wow. Well, we've got it in chat. [Music]
    576:29
    There was a real skip. Is that right? From 140 to 170. I think they're discussing that right now. Yeah, they're looking at it right now.
    577:01
    I don't know what you mean by it went from 140 to 170 in this like he didn't earn it. It skipped 30,000. Is that what you're saying?
    577:21
    picking odds and evens. Well, yeah, that would explain why I skipped it. Okay. Why he wouldn't get the at a ball. Yeah, but but
    578:05
    So, Richard's got an update from Carlos. Dustin. Yeah. So, Eric has said he's going to take 30 off the score and we're going to count it as uh let's see,
    578:23
    and then Eric is going to look for he's going to keep an eagle eye out here for any more skipping and if we see another skip, he's going to disqualify the whole game. We're going to play the game. And that makes sense. So now that being said, looks like Ross has this machine's number cuz he's just doing one after another. So this it sounds like this was Ross' pick. I tried to attribute it to Junior, but it sounds like this is Ross's pick. So it just did it again. Okay. Cop just said it did it again. Okay. So probably what he's going to do, according to Los, he said he's going to DQ the game. They're going to figure out what's up and they're going to go to a different game. I assume he's going to give Ross privileges on choosing that other game. Well, I mean that's an interesting question actually because the banks are curated by Eric. So you it's not like yeah I'm picking this game picking this game and picking this game. Yeah. So do you actually let the player select or do you just insert another game of that same area as a team? question. All right, we're going to stars, friends. It is going to stars. My favorite game down here. I love it. It does not love me.
    579:48
    this ruling. That is rough for Carlos though. He put up a fantastic game. I feel badly and and it looked like Ross was on his way to a winning score as well. He was doing really well, but uh it's the right call to make. Certainly a a significant malfunction. We can't have scores going all willy-nilly. So, and that game has been solid all weekend. And actually, I mean, this has been a mainstay here. I I remember this game for years now. I don't think I've ever seen something like this. So, yep, Stars is um pretty reliable. I'm not going to curse it by saying that, but hopefully we won't have significant malfunctions here so we can move on through game two. But a bad game from some players perspectives to be sure. Yeah, to be sure. So, let's hope nobody's getting rattled by this and we're just going to play like nothing happened. I don't know who Junior's been praying to, but I need that in the phone number because it worked. It worked.
    580:56
    Well, it's possible it was acting up, but nobody had anything to say about it. And you, our eagle-eyed viewers and the people around seem to notice this one. So
    581:08
    my guess is that this is a new problem. It certainly wasn't happening earlier today when I played it. Tiger places. Maybe when Eric rolled it twice, he really didn't. He didn't. This whole thing is a lie.
    581:28
    Man, the music here is so groovy. They've got Wolfpack playing now, and it is so groovy. I could play pinball to this forever. Oh yeah. Now, we're not going to be doing the mintorial because we just added last round stars in here, but just as a reminder. So, the main features are you want to get those stars lit because every star that is lit um on the right side here will increase the spinner value by 200. And the spinners are always juiced here. That's this spinner here. Yep. The other spinner if you So, you see those drop down targets? Two of them are actually red. If you hit the red ones down without clearing the whole bank, each one of those red ones will light the left spinners light and they add 400 to each spin. So from initially it's 200. And if you have both reds down, that thing is worth also a,000. So if you if you got left and right lit, so now suddenly you have targets for both of your flippers. Yep. And you can reset the drops if you clear them. You can add double bonus and triple bonus. That will however take then those lights away. So can't do the spinner lights anymore. Well, so you can redrop the red ones down. But um if you clear it and it pops them back up, then your your 400 or possibly 800 are gone until you drop those red ones again. The other thing to note is the special is worth 100,000 points, which is a lot in this game. And you can only get there by lighting all five stars. So really three strategies, right? One is get the stars lit, rip the spinner, and hope you get that special. M the second is shoot for those red stars, get the spinner lit, and rip that left spinner. And the third is go for the drop targets, get your triple bonus up, and then just build bonus. Yep. All three are Whoa. My god. Really good strategy. Such a nice dig. And then he gets punished. Then he got punished for it. Watch this dig, guys.
    583:21
    He got it back up off the post, dug it out of the grave, and kept playing. Love that.
    583:29
    And again, this is a fiveball game. So, usually it's only ems or five ball, but this one can be really, really mean. Um, so this is a fiveball game. Yep.
    583:47
    So, also you start always with one star for each ball. So, that spinner is worth at least um it's 200. 200. Y he got it to four but was not able to get much in the way of bonus. Oh yeah, last strategy. So shhatsing it in the inlanes because if it goes up and down, you always get the advances because each roll over here will actually switch the lid um from the outlines to the inlines and vice versa. Yeah, I've seen Carlos do this in other tournaments where he just keeps shots and left and right and oh that flipper hop that that is the worst man. That is worse than a bad eject. The flipper hop. Watch this. Right over the flipper. It phased through it like it was warping. That's the worst.
    584:40
    As a as a player, nothing feels worse than the flipper hop. you're you're doing something cool, you're on to something, you get some momentum, and then for no fault of your own, it's just gonzo. That's the cost essentially of having the capability of ripping that those targets cuz you have juicy coils there. Yep. So, so we're lit on the left spinner. Now's a good time to exploit that. Mhm. But he's getting the right spinner again. And that just he got his double bonus just in time, but not a whole lot of bonus there. 4,08. Unfortunately not. But again, this game can play so mean. You may get three house balls in a row. So you take any points that you can.
    585:30
    I happen to love this era of Stern. I like everything that Kirk made. This is no exception. Yeah. It's just a meanie. And once you come to terms with it, Once you come to terms with that, it gets a lot more. You just have to understand what it is. And what it is is mean. So also the scoring looks a little bit odd. So your first player is in the lower left corner and then it goes up to the right um from there and your fourth player is in the bottom right. Yeah. One, two, three, and then four cuz why not? I do like the back glass though. I do too. And you know, right up there with Meteor and uh is it galaxy is the other stern right from this era, we get your space trilogy, which is super fun. Uh oh, did not make it to the flipper. Mm-m.
    586:30
    Completely agree. Flipper hops are when your only friend on the playfield becomes your biggest enemy. Well said. That flipper is your entire interface with the game and all of a sudden it's just useless.
    586:47
    Oh, you would have gotten that back. BFR, you are super correct. Meteor was Stern's first movie title. I think it was 1979 78 based on a movie about the Cold War and actually the US and Russia coming together to defend against the meteor. I've seen the film. It's not bad. It's a good movie. I need to watch that. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah, it's worth watching. All right. You guys saw Deborah won. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. We just found out that Deborah Tolman won the B division. We'll do a big award for her. Congrats. Congratulations, Deborah. Yeah, congrats to Deborah. Sean Connor is in it. You're right. The only question is, does he play an American with a inexplicable Scottish accent or a Russian with an inexplicable Scottish accent? You have to watch to find out. Only if he's in a submarine, right? That's right.
    587:48
    Oh. Oh, he got some love here. Is he Scottish or Welsh? That I don't know. I thought Scottish, but
    587:57
    all right, he got his double bonus, so got get some points for it. Decently long ball there. You can see our B division champ Deborah right there taking a victory lap. I don't know who won our unsanctioned C division tournament yet. We'll find out. I think she was playing in that as well. She did. She was playing two tournaments at the same time.
    588:20
    this. I think most pinball games of the era were based on somebody getting stoned and staring at the sky. It certainly helps explain Barraora.
    588:31
    There you go. So, lots of little taps, nudges, and whatever. It's like you really need it. That was perfect. What he did such a good job taking a ball that wanted out and slowing it down even through the course of its play. Yeah, Carlos is showing master skill right now. Really good. All right. What are we going for now?
    589:02
    Oh, Embion, Paragon, Barraa, uh, what else is just fantastic stoner fueled. Oh, what's the one nightmare? The the snail. Oh, time uh time warp. Time fantasy or time fantasy. That's cool. Now that's LSD. Yeah, for sure. The Atarians. Oh, Barra was designed as Las Vegas. That makes even less sense. Oh, nice. Oh, that was very nice. Watch as Ross manages to nudge this bad boy back up onto his left flipper. Boom. That was not going to happen organically. He nudged it back up there and that was super cool. Well, there's a reason why those guys are in in the finals here. And I am not.
    589:51
    Oh no. Loses the in lane out lane gamble on the left side there. But good ball for Ross. Mhm. Double bonus, too. Yep. He's at 51 after ball three. So that's a third place right now. And Jeremy is going to try and see if he can make it a fourth. But after that flipper hop, man, I hope he's coming in with new hope and confidence because that's a tough thing to recover from. Uh, no such luck. But remember, five balls, so we have two more. Oh my gosh, I keep doing that. That's the second time I've done that with this game. Yeah, that's I'm so used to seeing saw the reason why it is by the second time today I've done that. And I have not been smoking anything that you know of that I know of. The brownies were tempting.
    590:45
    No, they burn kind of. Not Well, I guess that's true. Mike Dawn makes these killer fudge brownies. Oh my god. No, they're not special brownies. They're just brownies, but they are super good. And he all he's so nice. He always brings like a huge tray. Oh, it's amazing. He's like cooking for a a hundred people.
    591:16
    No. Oh, that's rough. All right. Well, but there's still one more ball to come. Yep. Yep. It is tight. So, doors open for Ross here. It is a tight game. I mean, if you get 20,000 or 19,000 in bonus with a triple bonus, that's 60 right there without you doing anything else. So, um that's and that's definitely a achievable if you have a good ball. Yep. Well, and again, we should put into perspective, we're talking about a 100,000 point special. Yes. If you can get it, which would well absolutely turn this game around, right? Yeah. So, now he did the opposite and it left four. Yep. Yep. But he's got four stars. Oh, dude. There was no saving that. That wanted gone and it found the one place it needed to go. I had threaded the needle there. This is the downside of playing the stars approach is that you just lose all the stars every time anyway. So like you might build four, get nothing out of it and well the game state always resets. There's really Yeah, excuse me. There nothing carrying over. Yeah.
    592:28
    all right. Jeremy has gotten no love whatsoever from this machine tonight. It's coming down to ball five now. If Junior can put up a big score here, he can kind of solidify a win, right? If he can get four more, that's why that 42 one zero scoring is so important. So, he got the rollover, got his second star and control. Oh.
    592:53
    So, he is not going to get a win here. No. Carlos is our points leader right now. 74,000. Yeah. But he he can't rely on that. Ross gets a house ball, so he needs to put up some points here. Yep.
    593:10
    And this game don't care if it's ball five. Oh, no. It's going to treat you like it wants to treat you. [Music] Nope. That's not going to be it. Nope. Now he needs a little bit of luck, but Ross can definitely put some big points up here. I mean, this this is going to be real interesting cuz the barn door has been left open with a very slim margin for victory. Mhm. Not a lot has to happen. I mean, honestly, Jeremy has a genuine shot still at this. Oh, for sure. None of these are runaway scores at all. I've seen, you know, 350,000 point games today. Not for Ross either. This game will not cooperate. Wow. Look at that. Look at this. He picks up a second so far and it might hold depending on what Jeremy Ryan does. Yeah, Jeremy has it has all the cards in his hand now. He gets the first star up there. Yep. So, he's got two lid. He got the freebie and picked up an extra. He sends it right up the middle here. Well, he got he picks up with a little bit of pop bumper love star. Gets the in lane roll over. Is he going to go for five? Nope. He's not. I don't know if you would go for bonus here now. Um, you know, get the double or something. He needs big points. Like I I feel like he's got four or five. Go for five. Yeah, fair enough. Well, he sends it up the middle. That's what he did last time, too. He got some Lazarus here. How about a Lazarus? I'm going to save that clip.
    594:54
    I just heard the rest of the room see the clip and yell Lazarus. And he gets his fifth star. So here's the You see now the Look for the roving red light. Yeah, it the right side. No. Could pick it up here. No. Almost picked it up there. No.
    595:17
    Look at Look at this. No. Are you kidding me? 320 points. 320 points kept him out of uh third place. Look at that drop target. All he needed was his 500 point drop. Yes. Because I would have doubled his 320. Oh my gosh. He He All he needed was that one draw target. I mean, that's pinball, man. That's pinball. So close. We wouldn't be watching it if it wasn't exciting. Oh, that was that was a heartbreaker. So close. One drop target off. Shoot a handful of slings. You know what I mean? Yeah. Would have done it. He he was going up top. He was trying to pick up that that special. He I Yeah, I think he just mesmerized. I don't think maybe if he had the chance to think about it for a second, but I think that that roving thing just ins snared him and it was just going for it. See, that's going to keep roving. There's no timer on that. So, you just hold it. You wait for your shot. But easy for me to say I'm not in the middle of the finals, right? And playing stars. Yeah. How about that? So, we're going to our third game of three for the finals, The Walking Dead. Another game known for its absolutely brutal drains. Yep. Now, that I feel like it plays towards um Carlos's strings. I I know he likes that game. You feel like this one is going to be a little bit more of Yeah, a little friendlier to Carlos. Okay, man. Oh, man. That was a roller coaster. That was
    596:56
    man, The Walking Dead. So, the rumors are that I've been swirling around that they're going to remake, remaster The Walking Dead. I would love that. I don't know how you remaster such an already beautiful complete You give it the same same treatment as Metallica. you you know screen maybe a couple more modes or something like that new art and so on. That's true. Metallica was already very complete. Yes. Yeah. So, uh the chat tells me that Ross has a Walking Dead. Oh, so that's something. Well, but you know how it goes is like if your muscle memory is on on a certain specific game, that actually may be a disadvantage. To be fair, that's probably only for players of my caliber, those guys. It's like that's free training, right? Yeah, it's true. Once you get used to a certain machine, I was struggling with Grand Prix because I'm used to another Grand Prix and I was struggling with this one. And the same may be true here. So, let's talk strategy real quick. Frank, do you want to share your favorite approach? Um, usually I just try to while I have the ball safe going on, bang the barn door a few times, try to get get the magnet. So, because it can drain you ideally while the ball safe is going, then get the um get the um while walker ready, get into a mode, and then then start one or the other multiball. Okay. I do the same except backwards. I go while the ball save is playing. I will go for here so that I can start a mode and then use the well walker first as my multiball use the prison second only because I have bad luck with that magnet. Yeah. Well, you don't need to prepare it on the first ball. So, it's more like, oh yeah, well the while the the ball safe is going shoot up there because if it catches it and shoots it down, I may be getting back. already timed it out. I go for the well walker and maybe continue, you know, on the next ball or something. Just keep working at it while I have a safety net. I mean, you guys watch like this is set super tight. It's set super hard. You might notice that somebody gets a well walker with a couple of jackpots or somebody gets a bicycle girl with a few hits and that is enough. Bicycle girl just kills me every single time. It's It's there to tempt you. Yeah. So, right now we're clearing the yard a little bit, getting rid of some of the walking dead. That should enable How much is the extra ball worth? Do you know? Uh 25. So, that is actually Ooh, look it. He's barely touching it. Love that. Love that. That's two bicycle girls. Now he's barely He's barely playing Baby Fingers now. Love that. It's rare to see two tilt warnings without a third so far today. Normally, it's been two, a pause, and then three. That was definitely a rarity. He is definitely going for that bicycle girl. Yep. Bicycle girl can be valuable, but you have to keep hitting her. You just have to keep hitting her. Yeah. And like not wait a long time in between. Yeah. It's a It's a hurry up, so it's going to keep counting down and getting less valuable every time you wait. Yeah. At that point for like 800,000 I would just say, "No, I'm I'm done with that. Not worth it." Yeah. Yeah. But it does grow after that. So, you know, you do it so that you can have your next shot. There's the tilt. Yeah. It was going to happen. It was going to happen. Come on. He did. I think he did fairly well. He did well. I He did the right thing, Frank. I think, which is keep playing for those points on the There's not going to be a huge bonus at this point. Keep playing for those points on the playfield. And I think he has the yard almost cleared. I think he's like one shot away, right? Um I you know, I should have paid attention. I didn't see. Yeah, get get the extra ball, you know, net those 25 million. Um, now if one of them starts getting a hold of of a mode and puts up 100, you know, I don't know how much it will be worth, but I mean, so far how it's playing, 25 million seems like a lot. Yeah, it does. I mean, my guess is we're going to see a final score, you know, it could be as low as as 30 40 million based on what we've been seeing. Of course, I I am not counting in the runaway factor that does tend to happen when Carlos gets serious about things. Extra ball is not 25. What is it? I don't know. Oh, 2.5. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, just forget about that. I lied. That is not at all. I remember it being some number of twos and fives. I think it's 2.5. Thank you, Retro Casey. 2.5. Yeah. No, for 2.5 I'm not even bother. Move the decimal.
    601:47
    He do you see took his hands off completely. Smart move. But now there is no room to breathe now anymore at all. No. And the thing is if you get a man feet out of this, it can kill you.
    602:08
    Just hit that barn all day. Yep. Just keep looping that. There you go, buddy. Big points. Big spin. Big points. He's going to let it bounce again. Take that barn shot. Why not? Try and trap. Nope.
    602:25
    There you go. Really great job getting control of that ball. It can be frustrating when you miss a couple shots like that. You just want to keep swinging at it. And he took the time to get control. But he still has a half a minute. So it just, you know, it's worth it. Those extra 5 seconds to take a breath. Now, so that was a shots that actually went so wildly out of control, it ended up in the opposite out lane. Super moonwalk. Yeah, that's pretty intense.
    602:58
    I feel like out of the modes, the left orbit is the easiest one.
    603:04
    Yeah, if Yeah, if you can get that barn mode going. My gosh. Mhm. I also really like the riot shot, which is just to the left of the barn. Um, for some reason, I'm usually able to hit that. I struggle with the bicycle girl just because of the bounceback factor. Oh, fair enough. A Shats rainbow. I like that. Shats boat. So, you can see Junior's up there trying to paint himself a prison clown. You've got these lights up here which need to be qualified to start your prison mode. He is going for the well walker though. Yeah, I usually go well walker too. Oh, good nudge. Yeah, good nudge to stay in. All right. Boom. One more. Two more. One more. Ah, but he's set up for the next set for ball three. Unlike stars, you can actually build something here. All right.
    604:05
    So, he has the whole prison yard to clear. So, it's not as bad as it looks right now score-wise cuz there's lots of points on the table right now. Yep. Yeah. Because you can build on your prison in your well walker because you can work your way toward blood bath. There's more than what the score tells you. Yes. All right. Well, uhoh. No, man. That's See, that's the problem for me with this one is so many center drains. I really struggle with that prison. Yeah, but he he should have quit shooting for it after the the after the ball save. Yeah. Yep. Got a little greedy at that point. Just switch over. You have five blue lit arrows, right? That's like a few millions just to get yourself into a groove, find the shots.
    604:54
    So you can see our scores have been updated. Carlos is at six, Junior's at five, Ross is at three, and Jeremy at zero. So Jeremy cannot win it,
    605:10
    but could certainly disrupt another somebody else's plans. Get a little bit of love here. Les keeps going for for Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
    605:25
    Big Cat noted that Carlos has two of three for blood bath. So my guess is off the plunge you're going to see Carlos going for that third one trying to pick up the food on the left uh drop target while he's got some ball save. Chicago Bob says excellent commentating all day Justin your cohorts. Thank you so much Bob. Yeah Ross was not happy about earlier. He felt like it should have given to him and it didn't so he had to go again. It is it is a dangerous shot as we have seen Yep. numerous times now.
    606:01
    So all those are coming back. Yep. And he's got his right orbit shot lit now in this turn. I think this doesn't lock you out of modes. It's very untypical. Um you can actually if you feel like start a mode here. Yeah, there's Bicycle Girl. Speaking of which, yeah, he's unfortunately just auto multiball now, but he got nice some nice score out of it. Uh, got it. Okay. Got the extra ball. Yeah. Let's see. 2.5. There it is. 2.5. Well, take it. And on this, at least on this specific one, never fire on the out swing. always on the back swing. What is it about that? I heard that earlier as well. What is it about that? Uh you it there's a ever so slight delay when you fire on the out swing. So it does not fire when you press the button. Okay. So you got to wait until it gets itself already in. Yeah, pretty much. Good to know. Now I don't know if that is true for all the one, but it is true for this one cuz we we saw that earlier. Mhm. Yeah. Don't don't ever on the outspring. You can qualify, start, and do modes while in multiball. Isn't that awesome? I feel like that should be a thing on on more machines. I know. I really like that feature. Ross is going to be happy with that finish. It's 75 progress towards a well walker. Yep. Looking pretty good.
    607:34
    I want to play this one cuz I haven't used it today. It wasn't one specific shot, but I do like playing that one. All right, Carlos, show us how it's done. Phoebe says hers is like that, too. Yeah, wait for the back swing. What a weird little quirk, you know. You just have to know about. All right, we think we're going to see Carlos going for while he's got some ball saved. Going for the targets on the left. We shall see. Waiting, waiting, firing. There you go. Did he get one? That should come back. Yeah. Uh, did he get It looks like he's locked on to food. I think so. So, now is he going to try and finish it even without the ball save? It is a tricky shot. Oh. Oh, he almost got one there. No. No. Oh, he was so close. And it looked like he got it back in. So close to blood bath and then it just was living right on that edge and and and it had momentum. I felt like it would come back. Yep. So again, looking at our points, Ross is at is at uh seven if he wins this, right? Uh Carlos only needs one to get there. Chris needs two. So really the question is who's going to win between Chris and Carlos? Yeah. Like that's going to be the big battle. Oh, it qualifies blood bath. Thank you. Uh how do you start Bloodbath? Where do you start it? I don't know.
    609:06
    You can see I don't make it to blood bath all that often. Yeah. No.
    609:22
    Started as well walker. So, in this one, you just keep bashing the well walker. Oh, big cat. That's what you were saying. Gotcha. Thank you.
    609:44
    He's trapping up. He wants to make his shots intentionally here. Is he going to use it to go after the well walker or is he going to use it to try and clear some drops? I don't know. Uh, and that is all right. Collect yourself. Yep. Not a huge total on Weller there. Typically Well Walker doesn't score that high, right? That's a utilitarian multiball that you use to do something else. Yep. Or on ball three if like, you know, the scores are super low, it's like Hail Mary. Yep. So interesting. I mean, you know, we all rage tilt. That was a rage tilt that may cost him something depending on what Carlos does cuz he had a little bit of bonus. Not a ton. It's just not it. That was just a rage thing, right? That was not a strategic choice. No. Um, so yeah, we we've all done it. It may end up costing him a place here. I hope not, but Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had one of those earlier as well.
    610:53
    Pretty easy to tilt on these things, so you don't need a whole lot of rage to do it. No.
    611:02
    All right, little prison progress. Oh, yeah. This is clearing the yard. He's making me nervous. I Yeah, I mean, I guess he's two shots, no, three shots away from prison. From prison. Yeah, you could perturb Tilt. I slightly annoyed Tilted. There you go. All right, that once again making me nervous. Is he going to go for Bicycle Girl? He is. He missed it on the rebound. He gets another. Making some well progress.
    611:38
    I don't like that. Don't like that. How far are we away? Oh, nice. Great save. He got it. He got it. Very nice.
    611:49
    Gives him a little bit of ball save here. Yep. Now go for the drops. Really nice save to stay in play there and he ends up getting the multiball out of it. Love to see that. And he's finally putting some points on the score here. Gets a little bit of luck and and this one has fairly generous ball save now that I say that it's gone. But yeah, Eric confirmed Junior did get a yellow card on that, which just means, hey, don't do it again. And if you do, you're out. But it doesn't really matter now.
    612:32
    I mean, really, really good effort there. Gets him to 24 for a solid second place right now. And he puts, no matter what else happens, puts some points on the board cuz you don't want to go out of the final with zero points. For sure. For sure. And and we said, look, Jeremy could be a disruptor. He is a disruptor. Yeah, he officially messed up everybody's plans, right? So, Ross has a solid lead, but you never ever ever count out Carlos. Yeah. I mean, that is definitely in striking distance. Now, it's not a gimme, but he I mean, he can do that. So, you have to keep putting dirt on that hole. So, you can't, you know, you can't just rest on his laurels here. Now, it's possible that we see another game here if we have a draw, in which case that yellow card will matter more. But I I doubt we would see another infraction after something. I don't think so. Chicago Bob, thank you for that follow. And just a reminder, friends, you can subscribe if you have Amazon Prime for free. You get one free subscription a month. Uh so if you'd like to following us, subscribing us. Yeah.
    613:50
    Yeah, the bits are awesome. If not us, then somebody else because competitive pinball and stream pinball is a big part of the community and it helps get the word out. Mhm. About this awesome hobby. [Applause] He's a I was just about to say he has good multiball there. Yeah. So, I guess there is something like commentator spurs, is there? There really is. They're real. That's a real thing. Sometimes I am afraid of my own power sitting in this room.
    614:24
    Okay, so Ross is up at seven. Um, Carlos is Thank you for those bits, Himer. Really appreciate that. Carlos needs to beat 24, right? That's an outright win. Yeah. So, if he beats 13, we're in a tiebreaker, right? If he beats 24, that will get him second place, which would be enough
    614:54
    because if Ross were in Chris's position, it'd be a little different, right? Mhm. But because Ross is at three and Carlos is at six, that should keep him one point above. So, so we need to get above 13. Nope. Nope. No, no way. No way. With a tilt number. All right. So, I don't know where he was. So, he was at 10. So, he's still at 10 cuz he tilted out. So, that's going to put him in fourth. Yeah. Fourth place, I think. So, so he gets zero points out of this. Wow. So, Ross now picked up four, putting him at seven. Yep. And he wins it. That's enough to win, right? Cuz Junior's going to be in third for one for six. I think Ross just got it. Congratulations. Do you have like fanfare or something? Um, no. I wish I did. Here, let's give him a walk away win. It wasn't, but let's do that. Oh, that one didn't. There it is. Walk away win. Big congrats to Ross for that finish. Big congrats to Deborah Tolman. We're going to go and do awards here in a second. And again, it's not over till, you know, I mean, you ain't kidding, man. That is I mean if if you have to make odds as a bookie, right? Never would have guessed. I mean the way that went I never would I would have bet on Ross but I never would have bet that way. Right. I guess we are we getting a tiebreaker for second. Let's see where's Eric going. He's going somewhere.
    616:29
    Stars. More stars. More stars. Good lord. How could you? All right. We're going to get some bonus pinballs.
    616:43
    Ross, congratulations. You nailed it. That was awesome. Want to come here? All right. All right. I'll give you the winner. Oh, so so excited. Congratulations. We have a winner of the 2025 NKY Open. and Ross Bergentino. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. What was it like? That last game was just chaos. What was it like to go in there? You really dominated. I'm an agent of chaos. My picks are chaos. It's I don't know. I feel like it's all I got. Yeah. I mean, I've owned a walking Walking Dead is the first game I ever bought. I got one back in 2019, like just before the pandemic, and then played the crap out of it the whole time. So, when I saw that it was an option for picking in finals, it felt like a good option. And that was our substitute option, right? No, the one that we lost was odds and evens. And what was what did we sub in for odds and evens? Look at this. Is that your trophy? It is. That's awesome. Here, you could look first. Yeah. The 2025 A Division Grand Champ, friends. That's you. You get to you get to keep that. Oh, yeah, brother. Yeah, that was uh that was ridiculous. That was amazing. Weird picks for finals, but like especially that bank that had odds and evens. My options were odds and evens, stars, Grand Prix. Yeah. and what like cheetah or something like I don't want to play those games with these guys. Unfortunately stars is my best game there. Odds and evens is funny but you know. So odds and evens dies. Stars gets subbed in. That was the best of the worst possibilities. And then you move on to a game you know really really well. Yes. Home base. It's at a friend's house right now. But uh was there a point at which you felt like I have this? Was or did was it really because we were nailbiting down to the very last second. I kind of want to say when I started tunnel that tunnel mode just scored so well like I really wanted to start that 2x the whole time and I just could not get the uh the little riot shot there but even that doubled one worth of 10 you saw me celebrate. So yeah the doubled single shot. Yeah tunnel's just it's good money. So well it was really impressive and and now that you are the reigning NKY champion what's your next pinball hurdle? Have you thought about your next pinball goal? You know, I had the idea last year to uh to take a run for Kentucky instead of Ohio because Ohio is a bunch of killers, right? And uh I was just a few points shy last year, but I have a feeling I won't be this year. So, yeah, I'm thinking about doing that. That's awesome. Just hide from Ohio. Can't blame you. And I But either state, I mean, shoot, the Louisville crew is really tough. Yeah, that's also true. I mean, what am I saying? That's really hard. I watched the finals last year and a lot of my picks were like I've I've seen Junior blow up so many of these games. Like I wanted to play Bad Girls, but I'm pretty sure I watched him win the state of Kentucky on Bad Girls. So, I just couldn't pick it against him. That was really exciting, too. Well, congrats. Enjoy your win. Earned every second of it. And now, thanks for putting up with the weird picks. Oh, you bet, man. Now we get to watch our tiebreaker game here. Awesome. Between Junior and Los on a game that is the best of the worst options, as you said. We have seen so many games of Stars today. Honestly, it's just I love it, too. There's nothing like it. I love this era. Uh I love this designer. So, yeah, Stars is right up my alley, but it is a bear. It is. And I I didn't have to compete on it today. Yeah. And we were talking about sort of the major strategies. What's your favorite approach to this game? Chaos. Just chaos. Just whatever happens. As soon as I see that I have some bonus going, that's when I start to flail those drop targets and try to get at least double going. But um I just flail around and hit targets. And once I have enough targets that I'm feeling happy, I start to rip spitters. And I don't know. We had a nailbiter because Jeremy lit all five of the stars, had the special and was ready for that 100,000 point shot. Yeah. And we were like, this could change everything, right? and then just it bounced within millimeters twice of getting one of that roving shots and didn't didn't quite get it. That's brutal. That was really wild. I think on ball two he uh he had the ball jump over his flipper too. That's always such a crummy way to lose a ball. Like nothing experience, honestly. Yeah. But uh yeah, I'm kind of in shock. I I just wanted to knock it last but uh I'd say you about first. Yeah, that's pretty good. Well, I know we're doing cash prizes and all that in a little bit, but that trophy lives forever. That you keep forever. Hell yeah, brother. I got a B division from my first year here, actually. So Oh, do you? Yep. You can put it Does it look similar? It does. Oh, they could s live right next to each other. That's cool. I'll have to take a picture. Cool. This is a lot of fun. I need to go drink water. All right, man. Go get him. Congrats me on the stream. Yeah, of course. There you go. There's our A division winner, Ross Bergentino. We'll talk to Yeah, you just leave that right there. Thank you. We're gonna talk to uh Deborah if we can find her. Our B division winner. Um and you're watching the tiebreaker for Carlos and Chris Junior right now. And then we're going to do awards once that's decided so that we can um figure out who's getting what. [Applause] [Music]
    622:08
    What a pleasure to get to watch that. That was awesome. So great. Oh. Oh. Oh. Look at this, man. This was This was sweat getting in the way. Oh, you can't see his face on the He went to wipe and just It took too long. Couldn't get back to the flippers. Yeah. Hi, Laura. How are you? Welcome to the commentating with your first time today in it. I know. That's wild. I'm really glad you're here. You've been here the whole time. I have been here now. I have been here. Stars is s I have a very storied past with stars. Deborah um stars is a meanie jerk face I believe is the technical term. You want to come in very briefly just okay just to do that division high
    623:00
    too many headphones. That's my that's my song. Too many headphones. So congrats Deborah. You won our B division today. Hey, and we were following the A division, so I didn't get to see it happen. Did it come down to a a real close one? I Well, so the top eight was not the top eight. I had to win like the last game. Uh and uh to get into the top four. Okay. But then when I got into the top four, I won the first game and I won the second game and I won the third game. Oh, wow. Really? You swept the finals? I swept the finals, dude. Nice. Also, I had them plunge my first ball on the last game in finals because I I knew I'd already got two fourths and so I did it on essentially one ball cuz my second ball was like a house ball, which is nonsense. Yeah. So, wow. Um but yeah, I'm excited because uh I get one of the trophy thingies and I'm Yeah, that's super cool. I'm still in the funfuckers. Oh, yeah. You got that? Did you get Are you still playing? I'm still playing in it and I only have one strike and we're Yeah. So, it's five strikes. So, I'm feeling feeling good. Oh, and I did a costume change. You got to have at least two outfits for this. That's right. First of all, because Cincinnati. Second of all, because it's so sweaty in here. It is sweaty in here. I was just saying Los actually lost a ball trying to keep sweat out of his eyes. Oh, I I lost a ball like trying to like make the like the side of the pinball machine be less like like moist. Like gross. I was like trying to clean it up and the ball came down faster than I expected. I was like And I was too late. Yeah, it looks like our winner on that one was Carlos. It looked like. So So Carlos gets Is this the second? It looked like it. Yeah, I was I was busy chatting. And I apologize. I didn't mean to like get in the way of the epic. No, not at all. I wanted to say congrats. That's awesome. I wanted to like come say hello to you again at least. You may win our unsanctioned third tournament as well. So yeah, you've seen the prizes. I have not seen the pri Oh, I saw two of them and they are wildly inappropriate. Oh, it's time for me to go. I love you all. Congrats. Oh my gosh. All right, we're going to do announcements, I think. Do you have your handheld? Yeah, I do. Okay. So, in just a minute, we're going to hand out our trophies and declare our winners and give people some cash money money. And then once the stream goes off, uh, you know, you guys find another amazing pinball channel. More amazing than the than this pinball channel. I mean, it's hard to say that exactly. I got to figure out how to raid when I don't have a raid button. Oh, yeah. Cuz you don't have a button over here. Yeah, I may have to log into Twitch to I'm just going to keep rocking out to Rush. Yeah, we've got Rush playing in the background. That feels pretty good. What a fun exciting day. And you have been doing a great job holding down the stream us all. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate your energy. I just your wisdom. I have had so much fun with us. And tomorrow is Queen City Sea Witches. Thank you for that reminder. Yeah. Go watch it on Arcade Legacy's channel starting at 1:00. See witches. And I know you're not going to be able to go tomorrow. So I'm not going tomorrow. We have friends. Yeah. Yeah, that will be here. Yeah, I won't be able to go either, but I think Loe's might be sticking around for that. Yeah, I think so. Okay, you want to go to the the all LCD? Yeah. Okay, let's do that one. So, we're going to hand it over to Eric while I go looking for a good place to raid. And Eric is going to present our winners.
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    [Music] Man, I'm just listening to the yell profanities for a second. Then we'll trying to keep it clean for keep our rating, you know. You got me? I got you.
    627:07
    All right. All right. All right. All right. Another NKY pinball open in the books. [Music] [Applause] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Give it up. Give it up. Let me uh let me get reminded here. Too many people. So many names. Can't remember.
    627:41
    This is the part where we watch Eric look at his We're starting off with our B division winners.
    627:48
    Our fourth place in B division, a newcomer to the NKY Pinball Open, Tanner Troyer. [Applause] I'm not sure already. I'll get you. [Applause]
    628:08
    All right. And in third place in B division, he's no stranger to local tournaments. He's a regular at Arcade Legacy, Doug K.
    628:20
    Doug Tyen Doll for those of you playing. Where's he at? Where's Doug? Doug left. I'll get him his money later. I just realized he left. So that that money's been forfeited. I I'll hold it for him. That's all right. And in second place, a Louisville player. He's been doing great the past couple years. Gary O'Brien. [Applause] Nice job, Gary. Nice job. [Applause] The dogs are getting into it. I love it. All right. Add in first place of B division. She's been here plenty of years. This is her first win of any kind here. Deborah Thomas.
    629:13
    Great. Great job. All right. Hey, division. Let's see. All right, Max. We hear you. We hear you. Oh, wait. We got to we got to kill the last round here, I think. So, who won the tiebreaker? Carlos. Carlos. Okay.
    629:38
    Okay. All right. And a division. This guy's from Louisville. This is his first time making a division. He makes the top four. Jeremy Ryan.
    629:56
    Yeah. Where is he? He's here somewhere. [Music] Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy.
    630:11
    Nice job, dude. So, you can get that'll get you a weekend pass tonight. So, if you bought one, I'll refund you it. But yeah. So, yeah. Cool. Yeah. Thanks for coming, dude.
    630:25
    All right, third place in a division. He's no stranger to winning Kentucky tournaments. He fell a little short today, but he's still a great player. Chris Dwit Jr. [Applause]
    630:43
    All right. And in second place, Carlos thought he got lucky cuz odds and evens broke. He still fell a little short, but Carlos de laserta. [Applause] Come on. [Applause]
    631:09
    He gets half of whatever it was. All right. And for our A division winner, he's no stranger to these tournaments, but this is his first big A division win, Ross Bergentino.
    631:27
    There he is, friends. Our A division champion. Thanks everybody for coming. That was awesome. Take care everybody. How about that? Our NKY Open 2025 champion, Ross Bergentino. This has just been a whole heck of a lot of fun. Uh reminders before we go. We're about to go raid, so stay just stay on because we're going to send you somewhere else. But um hey, tomorrow Arcade Legacy is hosting the Sea Witches Women's Tournament starting at 100 p.m. And that's a whole lot of fun. It is so much fun. You should go catch it. Got some awesome players there every month. That's Arcade Legacy on Twitch. Um, and then also we will be back, of course, the first weekend of December, Cincinnati for Cincinnati, baby. This whole tournament was sponsored by Cincinnati and that is starting on Wednesday and going all the way through Sunday afternoon. There's tournaments of all stripes all weekend. So, tune in for that. Laura, anything else you want to say? Go pinball. Go pinball. A huge thanks also to Deborah and Junior and Frank and Laura and who are our other commentators? Elizabeth was here 9/10en of the time. So huge thanks guys. I'm going to send you over to Pinependence Day 2025 on What's Brewing. Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll see you soon. Bye friends.
    633:03
    Fantastic. Fantastic. In the books.