Oh, I love trash. Anything dirty or nifty or dusty. Anything ragged or rotten or rusty. Yes, I love trash. It's time for another Pinball Profile. I'm your host, Jeff Teolis. You can find our group on Facebook. We're also on Twitter at Pinball Profile. Email us, pinballprofile at gmail.com. and please subscribe on either iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Play. And check out pinballprofile.com. Under construction, but it's still coming. Joining us right now, fresh off his suspension, and with a little bit of shame, I'm sure, he's here to talk about that and some other things. Chuck Webster joins us, or Chuck Webster. Hello, Chuck. How are you? Good, Jeff. How are you today? You sound humble after, I would imagine, a pretty embarrassing suspension. Do you want to give the details of what happened? And this all has to do with the Trash Talker Invitational, the bloodbath that's going to be happening at replay. And you were suspended by the committee. What happened? Yeah, I was unjustly suspended. I just got to say it wasn't fair. It's, you know, Scott Wilson, bless his heart. He came to us, you know, came to me, I should say, and made his case for being in the Trash Talker Invitational tournament. And, of course, being who I am, I said, OK, sure, you can come in. You're a good Trash Talker. You're a good player. and somehow this committee found out some little sore details and they decided that they didn't like what I did and they suspended me. It was just totally unfair. Now for those who follow podcasters, I would be one, trying to figure out who is Scott Wilson. Why would he be in this thing? Well, Scott Wilson, he doesn't have a podcast right now, but he has potential to have one eventually. He's a player down in, he's actually a New Yorker, which New Yorkers really aren't welcome to the tournament, but he made a good case for himself. That's about all I can say. Yeah, he made a good case. He knew how to bribe well. Oh. But the committee didn't like the fact he was trying to bribe me instead of them. That's the problem. He should have been bribing the committee along with me. Was there actual goods or monies that did transfer? There were favors that he was supposed to arrange, put it that way. Yeah. You said Scott has the potential of having a podcast. I would say anybody with a voice and a computer and can go on Skype would also qualify for that. So is the Trash Talker Invitational in your eyes, open to every single human being that's going to be at ReplayFX? If they have the wallet or the booze or something good to bribe me with, or bribe the committee, excuse me. You're just off a suspension in typical New Robert Englunds fashion. Just like Tom Brady who let some air out of some balls, you let the air come out of your mouth, and look what happened to you. Now, we're only weeks away from this. You've got to be careful about these things, Chuck. If you're going to be part of the committee, I mean, you've got to smarten up. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It's just inbred with us New Englanders. We like to take advantage of every situation we can. I'm trying to figure out that because you just took a shot at New Yorkers, and I've noticed this rivalry. I tell people who aren't into sports, especially across the globe, the New York-Boston thing is ridiculous. And my observation here in Canada, just on the outside looking in, I think of, well, Boston suffered for so, so long. I mean, the Red Sox finally did it in 2004 and have won a few since then, but New York just shoved it down their throat with 20-plus championships for the Yankees, and Boston couldn't do anything to win on the field, so all they could do was really trash talk. Is that kind of where this all started? No. I mean, Boston, in this century, Boston has totally dominated New York in every sport. Oh, this century, you mean since then? Yes. This century, we have just crushed everyone, every New York team. Every team in the country we've crushed. So, yeah, we don't have anything to defend. We're just better than everyone else, plain and simple. But the grudge happened before this century happened a few years ago. So, I mean, there was a lot of suffering in Boston, and New York just really, again, shoved it down their throats. Yeah, going again, last century, yeah, that's true. We took it pretty bad. We took some hits, definitely, in the previous century. Okay, before you pop off here, just let's go through some history because it might repeat itself too. Because the Boston Red Sox were a fantastic baseball team in the early part of last century. Then they traded some guy named George Herman Ruth. And when the Babe went to New York, that's what happened. That's what killed Boston. Even though they had, to me, one of the greatest players of all time in Ted Williams, they still couldn't win a championship. So yes, in this century, which is only 18 years now, you know, it's still the early part of the century. Just be careful. A little karma might come your way if you're going to pop off and talk about how great you are in this century. All right? So just still a few years to come. Well, hopefully we won't make a mistake like that and trade away a great player like Babe Ruth. That's for sure. Yeah, our current management of all our teams is pretty good right now, so I don't think that's going to happen in the near future anyways. All right. Okay, we'll see. You know, the best thing that happened to your Boston Celtics was that LeBron left the conference. He's over in the West now. I would agree with that. That's a good thing. That's basically a clear path for the Celtics right to the finals now. That's definitely a good thing. To lose in four straight to Golden State. Yeah, probably. Hey, but at least we made the finals. That'd be, yep, take that for the Celtics. So let's talk about this trash talker, Invitational Bloodbath. A real attractive name, by the way. It really promotes the love of pinball. Well done, Chuck, on that. Let's talk about who is in that right now. And it's open to podcasters, bloggers. You've got a list of who's in. Yes. Let's go down the list. The first invitee was Jeff Parsons of the Pinball Players Podcast. A New Robert Englunds. Yep, a New Robert Englunds. He's actually played at my regular Trash Talker Invitational. Now, just to give you a little history, the Trash Talker Invitational was started here about, I think it was four years ago now. And it was set up on a lark just because we had some local trash talking people or local people trash talking each other. A guy by the name of Joe Lemire. I know Joe. And this guy named Bowen. Yeah, and you might have heard this guy named Bowen. But anyways, Joe was just doing some lighthearted trash talking. and I just said, why don't we set up a tournament and we'll have these two guys go head to head. And long story short, instead of going head to head, we brought in probably eight to ten people and we just had a fun night at my place. And then it kind of grew and after a couple of years, we decided to make it a charity event and it exploded here. So we just had this great tournament We raised a lot of money for charity last year and I was talking to another podcast team and I mentioned hey maybe we should do this in replay and just invite all the podcasters And it seemed to go over pretty well. And most of the podcasts I've talked to have been really into it. So you've got Jeff Parsons with the Pinball Players podcast. He was the first in. Who else is in the Canadian Pinball podcast? Mike Dimas, a good friend of mine from London, Ontario. This Week in Pinball. Now, originally, This Week in Pinball was invited as a blogger, But now he has a podcast, so he's official. Okay. Actually, as of right now, there are no bloggers. Everyone actually has their own podcast. All right. So this week in pinball, Mrs. Pin, of course. Perfect for trash talking. Yes, I think she could win this. I mean, she's going to get in everyone's head for sure. That trucker slash Tourette's mouth of hers could really help her in this. Yeah, absolutely. I can see her sneaking up on everybody and just crushing them. Who else do we have? Head to head. The Australians. So Martin Robbins is going to be coming. Ryan is not going to be participating. Martin's the better player, too, so that's really going to help him. Correct. And he better bring me some Tim Tams. I'm first on the list. I mean, the committee's going to be coming. Hold on, Chuck. No, no, no, no, no, no. This fat guy from Canada is first on the list for anything chocolate. Those Tim Tams are coming to me first. Whatever I don't eat, maybe you can get some crumbs. All right. Well, we'll share them. How's that? Well, actually, you haven't even accepted your invitation yet. I'm not interested. But anyway, I'm going to be at Pimberg. That's where he's bringing me these things. We'll get to that in a second. All right, we'll get to that in a little bit. So head-to-head, we invited the Eclectic Gamers podcast, and they politely declined. They're not going to be at Pinberg this year. But I will say Dennis sent a very nice email and slammed every other podcaster out there. So he did a great job. He's going to be invited for next year for sure. Dennis is a great guy. I would have loved to see that letter. That's funny. Yes, it was great. Straight down the middle. Can't forget the Midwest guys. Who will Zach play for? Will he play for This Week in Pinball or straight down the middle? Interesting. Yeah, that's a good question. I haven't discussed that with him. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. Okay. Who else do we have? Bro, do you even talk pinball? Ah, the Buffalo guys. Nick and Kevin. More New Yorkers, but they're upstate New York. That doesn't really count as real New York. It's southern Canada. Yeah, exactly. It's southern Canada. I like that. Then, let's see. Miss Flippin' Podcast. Nice. Tommy and Taylor. Perfect. Yeah, I was listening to Taylor's podcast this morning, actually, They may not end up playing. I think Taylor's a little afraid of everybody, but we'll see. Probably. Let's see. The Pinball Podcast. One of the originals and certainly have been around for a long time, whether it was with Don or now Jeff and Jessica. That's great. Yep. Let's see. Tilt Through. Nice. That'll be with Zoe. I'm not sure who will be joining Zoe. I'm assuming Jack. I don't think Bowen's going to play. Again, scared. Yeah, I would agree. He was afraid to play in the past couple of TTIs. After getting his ass handed to him the first time, he was afraid to come back and play anymore. Well, Zoe's the best player there out of them all. Absolutely. And Zoe actually earned her way into the regular TTI, my local TTI, by winning my Sweet Talker tournament. I host two big tournaments a year at my house, and she won the women's version. Very nice. Then we got the new people, Riptide. Riptide, perfect. Yeah, Stephanie and Crystal. I just saw Stephanie the other day. She's very, very excited about it. I asked her who she's going to get, and she wasn't sure, because I guess how the TTI works is you have a host play, your co-host, if you have one, and then a ringer, or two ringers if you don't have a co-host. Correct. So that'll be Crystal, that'll be Stephanie, and they have to find someone else. And she suggested a few people, and I said, hmm, you know, it's a pinball podcast for the women. You know, it's for everyone, but it's by the women, and from a woman's perspective, you might want to have a woman on there. And she said, oh, yeah, that's probably a good idea. Yeah, I can see Stephanie lining up a pretty good player. I think she's going to bring in someone good. There's so many to choose from at Pinberg, for sure. Yeah. And then, actually, this one, there's Riptide and then there's PP Toots. Perfect. That's also Crystal. That's Crystal. So I'm not sure what they're going to do. They may combine forces there or they may have separate teams. I'm not sure about what's going on there. And then the Meltdown Pinball podcast or the Meltdown podcast. Steven Bowden and Nikki. Perfect. Yep. And they're also going to be a serious contender to win this. Although, Steve's really not a big trash talker. He's still too nice to be a trash talker, so I'm not sure how he's going to handle the pressure. Great player. Tough for an ambassador of Deep Root to be trash talking because that could represent badly for his company. Yeah, good point. Then Rage Tilt, which is more of a streamer, and they do T-shirts out of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. Yep. And let's see. I'm sure I'm missing a couple here. Oh, and then we'll have a team of former Trash Talk Invitational champions. So people who have won the TTI, the Boston TTI, or the International TTI we did a few years ago will be joining up as a team as well. So all the podcasters will have to face some real competition with real champions. Seems a little odd that that team's in, but okay, fine. And I will not be on that team, just to end any speculation. I'm not playing that. We have Augustus Eustace, Mitchell Curtis, and Matt Quans. Some good players there. Yep. And that's it. I mean, we're trying to get you involved, but you haven't even wanted to step up yet. I mean, the selection committee asked me to come on specifically to try to get you to come into the tournament. I mean, for whatever reason, they really want to get you on this tournament. I'll tell you why in just a second. I'm listening to that list, and to me, a glaring, glaring omission is the guys who've been on for a couple of years who've been inspiration for other podcasters, including Head to Head, who's actually in this event. The guys from Slam Tilt Podcast from upstate New York, so not even really real New Yorkers, although I guess Bruce is kind of a New Jersey guy. Ron Hallett, Albany, still a little west of the main city. Those guys have been on for a while. They've been on your show. They made a plea, and they're still not in. Chuck, what's wrong with that? Why is Slam Tilt not in this? I'm not quite sure why the selection committee doesn't like him, but I actually gave Ron and Bruce a chance two weeks ago. I played them a head-to-head match. All they had to do was beat me. Algar, wasn't it? Algar, exactly. I'm a low-level player. I mean, I'm not that good. Neither is that game. Well, the game wasn't picked by me. The game was actually picked by Jeff Parsons. He was the tournament director that day So blame Jeff Parsons for the pick of the game But you know Ron just couldn beat me I mean how can I expect him to beat any of you guys if he can beat lowly me So that was his one chance to get in? Are you saying there's no chance they can get in? Oh, I wouldn't say no chance. Anything could happen, but it's not looking good for him right now. The selection committee is just not, they're not digging their vibe. I don't know, maybe Ron or Bruce slept with one of their wives or something. I don't know. They haven't quite figured it out yet. But the selection committee just has something against them. I just saw Ron and Bruce on the weekend, and I can tell you it's really bothering them that they're not in, because they're good promoters of pinball. And also, too, they definitely can trash talk. They're good players. And as we mentioned, a lot of those podcasts that are going to be at the Trash Talker Invitational Bloodbath, they talk about those guys. Or at least they did for so many episodes, but now they won't talk about other podcasters and promote other podcasters because they've been slighted. And it's a little disturbing to me, too. I mean, you said, yes, pinball profile's not in. I've declined because I'm pretty busy. There's a bunch of reasons why. And Chuck, let's be honest. You want it to be a fair competition. If I'm in that thing, it's game over. You're playing for second place. Well, I just happened to look at the 24-hour stomp results. I noticed you didn't make the top ten in that tournament. But Ron and Bruce did. So maybe, you know, I don't know. Maybe you aren't really as good as you think you are. Well, I will say this. Yes, that was not the best performance of me. It came down to the last game. The winner got fourth place. The loser got twelfth place. So that's how close the points were. There's a little more to it than that, and I'm sure the Slamtail guys will make fun of that too. But it did come down to the last game. It was Iron Man. Bruce got Jericho. He did very, very well. So that's what propelled him. By the way, let's point out, on his machine, and I had a few house balls, What are you going to do? It's Iron Man. You have a great game. You have a bad game. I had a bad game. I'm not going to say I didn't care because I did, but it was more about social for me. It's always great to go to the Silver Ball Saloon and see some friends from New York. And yes, there are good people from New York there, Chuck. And that's what it was all about for me. Steve Bob was walking away with that, and I thought, I'm just here to have a good time. And I did have a good time. Well, that's what's important. So you were just taking it easy on him then. Now I get it. Some people say playing possum because when push comes to shove, Chuck, and when it really matters, somehow, some way, I seem to make it. Let's look at the history. All right. Yes, that was a bad tournament at the 12 hours of stomp. But who was one of the 40 people selected to go to the Papa Circuit final in Chicago in March? Oh, yours truly. Yes. A few people had to say no. It doesn't matter. Still got in. And in fact, I guess I assume because of myself, the group I played in, they called the group of death. because such great competition with myself and some guy named Trent Augenstein, Keith Elwin, and Bowen Kerins. The group of death. Two people had to be eliminated. And, yes, I did advance. It did come down to the last game. But I did knock off somebody who said to me, you were the reason I didn't get in. That was Bowen Kerins, a New Robert Englunds. And there were reports that maybe he shed a tear after that. I don't know if that's true or not. But, yeah, knocking out Bowen, a world champ. So, again, that's some pretty good credentials. Oh, there was also this thing called the International Flipper Pinball Association No. 15, the World Championship, the top 64 players in the world. Yes, Herbert from Austria didn't show up, and yes, there were a few last-minute cancellations, but yours truly was also in that event with some of the greatest in the world. So you want me in the trash talker invitational? Well, think about it. You have to be a good pinball player, and you have to be a good talker. That's my profession. For 25 years, I've been in radio. That's all I do. I get paid to talk. Oh, the trash talking? How many years did I do stand-up comedy in the 90s? All of them. I think I can probably handle a heckle or two and maybe dish one out too. So again, if I join this thing, it's game over. Forget about it. You're going to have to really make something good for second place because no one's going to want to play in it. So I am being considerate and not taking away some people's chance to have a good time there. I think I'm doing the right thing. Well, let me get this straight. So these couple of big tournaments, you show up at the last minute as the only alternate. it. Someone doesn't show up, you sneak in, and then you bow out in the first round. Is that right? Did I get that right? There are some great names that also bowed out in that first round. I agree. I think it's pretty good. I admit that's pretty admirable who you had to play against, especially the one in Chicago. That was a tough round, so I'll give you credit for that one. And if you look at the actual head-to-head matches in each of those, I beat all three of those guys on individual games. So it's not like I went down. Back home, they were saying, are you even going to get a point? Are you going to come in fourth place in all games? And I didn't. I only came last in one of the four games, so I knocked some of those guys off. But obviously, those are much, much better players than me. I'll give you that, okay? I'm just saying I could hang with them. I was okay. I was in the vicinity. You were in the mix, so you're okay. Maybe you do have the cred to play some pinball. And yeah, you do have some trash-talking skills. I agree with that. And the selection committee, obviously, they want you. I mean, I personally, it doesn't matter to me whether you get in or not. I mean, I have my own issues. You hate gingers. Yeah, well, they're not real people, are they? I mean, that's... Another factor, too, with all this, I'm a humble guy. I don't like to self-gloss at all. Yes, I know. That's not who I am. So what I do care about is getting slam-tilt-in. Is there anything I can do to you who can talk to the committee to get slam-tilt-in? Because those are friends of mine. Anything I can do. Well, bribes always help. I mean, if you want to bribe the committee, that will always help. But the big thing for the committee right now is just getting you in the tournament. So if we can get you in the tournament, maybe the committee will take pity on Bruce and Ron and feel bad for them. And maybe they get sick of seeing Ron and Bruce crying all the time and whining about they can't get in. They're part of the why me movement. So, yeah, maybe if you came in, the selection committee might, like I say, take some pity on them and allow these guys into the tournament, maybe. I can't speak for them. Sorry, hold on a second. You make it sound like you're the one with all the negotiating. No, no, no, no, no. This is somebody who talks to the world on a weekly basis, to the pinball community, someone who's going to be at ReplayFX there on the main stage talking to all the players. A real honor to do that for Papa TV. And you saying I have to do something for you No no no no That not how it works It goes the other way around here I going to pull some weight here all right And being a chubby Canadian I can do that Here the deal I will give you and you can tell this to the committee okay All right. Let's hear your deal, and I'll pass it along. And I'm giving you a deadline, Sunday, July 15th. All right. I need to see the Slam Tilt podcast be given an invitation to the Trash Talker Invitational Bloodbath at ReplayFX. All right. If you do that by July 15th, I will strongly consider joining it. But I need to see the goodwill from you first, not the other way around. You guys have to put them in first, and then I will strongly consider it. And remember, I don't have co-hosts, too. So I'll just, you know, I can pick. I really believe I can pick any two people randomly. Like, who wants to play? And because I don't have co-hosts, I can have two ringers. All right, you want to play? Good. You're in. You want to play? You're in. And still probably win the thing. So there, I put the ball in your court. All right. The greatest sports city of this century, albeit 18 years. The ball is in your court, Chuck. Get Slam Tilt Podcast in the TTI, and I will strongly consider putting Pinball Profile in the Trash Talker Invitational. What do you think? Yeah, I'll bring it up to the committee. It sounds like a fair deal to me. But again, I have to bring it up to the committee and see what they say. Like I said, they may just take pity on the Slam Tilt guys. I mean, they already feel bad for them. I mean, they're kind of pathetic. But, you know, I'll see what they say. They may go for that. Sunday, July 15th, your last chance to get, first of all, pinball profile in that event or to even have a chance to get us in. But you've got to get Slam Tilt in. Sunday, July 15th, so that we can maybe hear a reaction from the Slam Tilt guys when they record their podcast. I want to hear their excitement of getting in. I think they should be in, by the way, not with this threat. But if it takes that, I'll help my good friends, Ron and Bruce. All right. Well, I'll talk to the committee, see what they say. They may go for it. Like I said, to me it sounds like a fair deal. But we'll have to bounce it off the committee and see what they say. Yeah, we'll see. I still feel that if I join this, and I want the committee to know this, it's really, again, not going to be fair because, I mean, look at some of these podcasters. All wonderful people. Everybody you mentioned there, I like them personally. But really, I mean, do they stand a chance in a pinball tournament? I mean, we're talking about, you know, some overly sensitive, keeping it weird people from Portland or maybe the can-never-win-a-championship people from Buffalo. I mean, there's a lot of these people here that, I mean, the Australians, just glad to be out of that criminal country. There's no hope with any of those people, but they're all good people, and I wish them the best, but let's just get Slam Tilt in, and then we'll see where... All right, we'll work on it. We'll see if we can make it happen. When's your next big event? You said you have a couple of big events there. I mean, for those who don't know, you've got a great rock room, and you even have a Star Trek room, but little Bertie told me that might be going away and expanding the rock room? Basically, all the best rock machines, or most of the best rock machines. And I'm going to pick up an Alice Cooper, and I just picked up an Iron Maiden, so I'm running out of space and need to make some space, so I may have to sell some of my Star Treks, which is okay because I can replace all the Star Treks fairly easily. So if I ever wanted to get them back, I could. But my next big tournament is actually next weekend, is the New Robert Englunds Pinball League Championship. We have a 200-person league, and we're going to start next Saturday for the finals. It should be a good battle. How does that work with 200 people? How many people make the playoffs? The way it works, we've been playing around with the format a little bit just because we have so many people we can't get a location big enough. So what we do is we have an eight-week season, and after the eight weeks is up, essentially 100 people are going to make finals. We're going to split into three divisions, A, B, and C division, and then have a 100-person final. So it's a major tournament. It's going to be a lot of work, and I'm running it, So I have to bring some extra machines over to a local barcade we have here, and it's going to be a lot of work for me this week. Well, I'm sure you'll do a great job. That sounds like a fun league, and you've got some good people there. You mentioned Jeff Parsons. Yeah, we have some great people. Teresa Nessel is somebody I really enjoy. So many good people there in New Robert Englunds, even though they trash talk just a little too much. But that will be fun for the NEPL. Yes, the NEPL. Yeah, it's a fun league. I mean, we really strive to just make it a fun league. It's not all about competition. It's more every week everyone gets together. I think we have 13 locations next season, and each location has between 10 and 30, actually 10 to 40 people. It's just a good night out for everybody. Everyone has a great time with it. And the finals are a blast because everyone from all over New Robert Englunds gets together, and it's one big party. All right, Chuck, best of luck at that event on Saturday. I know you're going to be busy this week, but get to the committee Sunday, July 15th, 15th, the deadline to get Slam Tilt Podcast in the Trash Talker Invitational for any chance for Pinball Profile to get in. Alright, well, see what I can do. If the committee has to fall on their sword, they might do it. Alright, and don't take any bribes until then. You're on thin ice already with one suspension. Well, if I can get a good bribe from someone else once again, I'll take it. I can use all the bribes I can get. Any booze, any cash, you know, whatever. Yeah, New Englanders have never cheated before. No, it's never happened. Never happened. Our reputation is flawless. I got to go and take a shower after this interview. I mean, thanks very much, Chuck. It's been great talking to you. Yeah, it's great talking to you too, Jeff. All right, Chuck, we'll see you in Pittsburgh, maybe even as a player in the Trash Talker Invitational. And really, thanks for putting this on. I know all the fans of all the podcasts are excited to see this event, So that's kind of cool and good on Papa and the people at Replay for allowing you to do this. So thanks very much for doing that. In all seriousness, it's just going to be a fun event. It's not a hardcore event. It's going to be just fun and some good camaraderie as we bash each other over the head with some insults. Oh, heaven forbid. All right, Chuck, all the best. You too. Thank you. This has been your Pinball Profile. You can find our group on Facebook. We're also on Twitter at Pinball Profile. Email us, pinballprofile at gmail.com. and please subscribe on either iTunes, Stitcher, or Google Play. And check out pinballprofile.com. I'm Jeff Teolas. You talk too much, you worry me to death. You talk too much, you even worry my head. You just talk. You talk too much. You talk about people that you don't know. You talk about people wherever you go