So there's still King Kong LEs for sale everywhere. Is that a good sign? Keith Elwin, the greatest pinball designer currently, almost objectively when you take into consideration sales and everything else. And limited editions are just sitting there Just sitting there for the taking. Hence why I have not been personally involved in pinball as much the past few months. One of the big reasons. The used market, the market I should say, not just used market, is less than ideal. And because this is such an expensive hobby for those of us who are the majority in this hobby, homebuyers is what I'm I'm saying the other small minority going to arcades and having fruitful arcades. It makes the price of admission. Daunting. And further. Financially irresponsible to a certain extent, so it's really weighing the pros and cons of. Is it worth it? And it's been well, first to find worth it to you. I'm going to go with slurp. I want to... Oh, let's say that I'm a gabillionaire, which I'm not. But here it is, Jason the Gabillionaire. Ah, I just made a gabillion dollars getting back in the hobby. What do I want to do? Because this is what's true. I think premium over the pro, but this one is a close one. It's kind of like Iron Maiden for Mr. Elwin. I think a premium. Let's not get too into the weeds yet. I'd like to buy a dune. I'd like to buy a King Kong premium. I'd like to have an Evil Dead because that looks great. I would like to have an upcoming Harry Potter. The lowest trim, because what are we talking about? I haven't seen it, but just... Well, okay, nope, Gabillionaire. Whatever is the least gaudy. Because if it was the godfather Ellie with just a bad game and we pooped gold all over it, I would still pass, because then you just feel like a fool. Jason the Gabillionaire. Oh, let's go to Jason's house. What's he doing? He's clearly lost his marbles. He's got the ugliest. He's got a okay, he's got a Godfather pinball machine like who cares it's Godfather and then he's got just like lumpy gold all over it lions. Is he just is he is he retarded now? Is he is he gone yumpy? And I would like to play everything else out there. Alice in Wonderland. I'd like to, you know, like, even pre COVID times. Buy them all in here. Get on in here. Six grand ish. Okay, pre COVID. 4500, get in here, let's play you out, let's slap you around a little bit. Yeah, that's nice, fun game. Ah, that shot sucks. Those shots sucks. Move it on, sell it. Get a bunch of shit on pin side. Oh, you only kept that game for two weeks, weirdo. Who's a weirdo now with a bunch of games in your collection that you can't move? And if you want more games, you got to sell the ones that have been sitting collecting dust that you somehow still think is worth. What you paid for it. Clowns. The lot of you. You're not all clowns. Just the ones that are clowns. You're the clowns. The other ones, obviously, you're not clowns. But I think most that are listening to this show are not clowns. The not clown gabillionaire club. Yeah. I would like to play all the new games because pinball is fun. Pinball is a fantastic not waste of time. Well, sure. It's a fantastic waste of time when it's compared this week. All it feels like every single time is you pushing a button. That's how it feels. I'm not talking about Shaker Motors. For me, ShakerMotors, I turn them off or disable them because of someone's tendinitis vibrations. Suck shit! We don't want that, so get out of here. Don't want the vibrations. But yeah, the feel of the game. Oh, how does it feel? Well, go get a HAPS, the brand, button, like a joystick button, you know, arcade button, and press it. tbsp PE-Timeisoft, HooveEye3, All these are very important and they are very important. They are very important. So, I hope that's how you do a pinball podcast. Even further, what have we done with our life? But keep a button in your pocket so when you're out in the real world socializing, well, it's 2025, so when you're sitting in your house and you go to the grocery store and that's about it and you run into someone who you don't want to talk to but you happen to be talking to them by the broccoli. Ah, fuck, it's Steve from high school. That guy's an idiot. Hey, Steve, what are you up to? And he asks and you inevitably accidentally say pinball. And he's like, oh what's that like? Eh? You have a button in your pocket and you can show him. Because that's all it fucking is, is on each side of a large wooden box, there's a button you push. You just push that button. Isn't that nice? Yeah. You push that button and then the shots happen. I mean, what I'm getting at is we all talk about how something feels, shots feel, and Keith is one of the best at it. But at the end of the day, Subtitles by the Amara.org community Timing is good if you don't like them because he'll walk away. As you're timing, you're preemptively thinking about physics and then when you hit the button, once that ball goes, you're calculating, well if you know the playfield and the slipperiness of it, you know what I mean? Like if it's a new playfield, if it's a, if it's a jaws, it's gonna fly over the place. You're timing, you're taking all those calculations, we're all scientists by the way, taking all those calculations into account, immediately hitting the button You watch it go, physics takes its place, it goes up the engineers engineered ramp, it does a circly whipply do, comes back around, the same today, wow, I'm fucking god, look what I've done. And then it goes around, goes another flipper, kapow, hit it again, in my head I'm talking about the warp ramp hits it again the engineer comes back into play who made that shot in perfect spot physics on the machine It goes up there the lights go off Wow You might have a little orgasm It amazing While that happening lights are going off you know that you hitting a shot based on rules Well a lot of times for us who are doing it or when you evolve into that All of those things make it feel like something So physically the feel is tapping that The real feel is the actual attempt and execution and success and the failures gotta have sailors failures for successes to mean something in that game and they happen all the time. It's maybe an exercise in articulating how pinball feels so great or why it is so awesome that you're doing all these things at once and it's something you don't tell someone. I'm not someone at the dinner party or at the grocery store by the broccoli. I'm specifically saying broccoli because you usually have to spend a little time there sifting through the trash broccoli. And hopefully all of you are eating your veggies. You should. But to get that feeling which you can't get like look around your house where can you get that feeling? Full stop. I guess I'm like trying to like articulate more what I'm saying but I'm looking around. K Manuals referenced English blurry Teent kettle�N mexicanáDFtRnagx Smart hold of the city of Mar North kuin is the first etical Caustic occasions include bootlegs, Back Seo. All of you keyboard warriors that are going to say that again, a lot of you have stopped because you're like, who are we talking to? You're just saying it for the sake of saying it. No one's saying that pinball is an investment except for the LE freaks. The Metallica LE are the last people who have really flipped money on it. Maybe a couple of Jaws people, but I'm not going to get the fuck off. God, Stu, stop it. I think they should really stop the Ellie pinball machines anyways for, I mean, except for the distributors that make money on it and all that. Like just dumb. Look at Foo Fighter Ellie prices get slammed in the rectum. Oh God. Sorry pickle. I know I sold you my Foo Fighters Ellie, but that was, um, Hey, that was a different time and we've talked, but the, the market is, is rough. So, saying that King Kong LEs are still in the market is telling. The best pinball designer and a very neutral or at least non-offending title isn't moving the historical day one sellout, nay, hour one sellout games. Now, we are in a special little time where this hasn't happened, I can't think of the last time when an impending title as big as Harry Potter was announced but not shown at all from the hobby's most expensive manufacturer. So that is, you know, a lot of things taken with a grain of salt. But Harry Potter is going to move some fucking money around in this hobby. It's a large theme that people have been waiting for. You get it for a long time, but to announce it without showing it and knowing that they're going to have three trim models, which has not been the case for a while, one of them being as affordable as a Stern premium, give or take a couple hundred dollars, depending on who you know, depending on which distributor you know, which one you're friends with. And of course there's only one choice that is flipping out pinball. When I buy my pinball shit I buy from flipping out. From toppers or play stereos I've got it figured out. Flipping out, figured out. When I think of pinball I think flipping out. Flipping out, figured out. When I buy I buy from flipping out. Buy buy buy! So all these games I would like to buy I would buy them from flipping out pinball who has the best support in the industry and the largest fucking family you've ever seen. It's gross! Stop breeding! However, buy from them. They're great. They probably even have a couple King Kong Ellies laying around. Eh, who knows? Ask him. Ask Zack. Maybe he has them. Figure it out. Harry Potter's coming, so that's what she said. Yuck. Yuck. Harry Potter's coming. That's probably a pornographic movie. Gross! But if you have it, please email into pinballpartypodcast at gmail.com. We'll check it out. We'll do a review. Everyone's saving their money for this inevitable Harry Potter game. Or at least to view. Word around the campfire, maybe this will surprise no one, is that it's gorgeous AF. That, um, what to say? That it's, uh, uh, without giving away too much, that it's really good and you probably should save your money. I'll just leave it at that. And, uh, yeah, so So I guess I'm not helping the issue, but Harry Potter, it's coming. They announce it. It's like saying, hey, there's a new Star Wars game. It's not as big, but almost. Hey, there's a new Star Wars game coming out soon. It's gonna be about 10 grand and it's supposed to be awesome. And then they go ahead and they announce, well, like, you know, King Kong or Keith Elwin's next game, whatever it may be, just another monster. And then Dune comes out, which is like Dune is, it's, the movies are cinematically awesome. Thank you for watching. And that they're making such a cinematic game and from those who brought us Labyrinth, which was fantastic. It's that's also really compelling. And from what I've seen of Dune, a lot of us have not played it. It's not too shabby either. We're not like waiting for, you know, old trash games like Texas Chains or Halloween, you know, I mean, yeah, just toss out a couple, you know, or games like John Wick. I don know just tossing out a couple Godfather Toy Story 4 you know these aren it a big group of great games and what do you do with your money when going back to we love this hobby we want to play it all If you wanted to play all these three games like everyone else out there who wants to play the Switch 2 Mario Kart World and New Donkey Kong probably and at least play Breath of the Wild at 64 This week's Bug Pennsylvania inside F Uber. Tubimove. okay. Paed deserve a little motivated too. birthday. I think. Your bag. Wow, that was sad, ya didn't With a total cost of $300 you'll lose over like 5 years, not counting any new software or any new games you'll be playing. 300 bucks that's kinda nothing, for a hobby. In pinball, fuck me, we want to play all these new games, which I do! I want to play all of them! And I don't want to play them on-site next to a 2-year-old who stinks like piss and I gotta act like I'm not some introspective introvert I'm 42 and have my routines. I don't want to go out by these families and get into pinball. So I need it in my house so I can either put on headphones or be in my dark room or get all moody. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. How we like to play pinball. To do that shit with all three of these games. Let's just call it what it is. I want to I wanna play Dune, fuck yeah, I wanna play King Kong, fuck yeah, and I wanna play Harry Potter. And to play him I need him in my house. I need 30,000 US dollars to do that. Are you shitting on my face? What are we supposed to do? Jesus of pinball? God of pinball? What are the answers, man? Well the answers to a lot of us are, if we have games we gotta move them. Okay, so now there's a bunch of games on the market and the market's going down. No one wants to buy them because they're waiting for these three games. What the fuck do we do? Okay, let's go deeper into, I say debt, but basically pinball debt. Spend more money on pinball, so now I have even more machines in my house. At some point, this gets stupid. And it's unsustainable. And that sucks, because I don't know the solution. I don't think the solution is that we should keep having pinball manufacturers make new games and like, oh, this market is so huge and thriving, let's just toss another. Textsibilize replica shrink up�king skeptics f losers exchanges, real嘉uzzi ,harougets WiFi�さん teil gadget optimal έαurningsy Besides, katä Fourth class is one of the greatestavi All of these games. Just like a video game. Okay, sure, I'll spend the $50 and play it. But it's more so because there's so much more to like about pinball than video games. For me, and probably a lot of us because of what we talked about earlier that the feel of a pinball game is so much more than that little button you have in your pocket that you know, bring to the broccoli stand at the grocery store. It's so I did and I'm I'm gonna sing over it, and Im gonna start from Eh. It's just... It sucks that it's Whiskey and there's downsides that are not in other hobbies. I mean there are, like, cars, or-or other kinds of... boats and things. But this is- it's unique and we all know and I'm trying to say what we all know and try to defend what I'm talking about. I should stop because we're all playing pinball and we like it, so, what am I doing? in 20 minutes explanation of the used market is just iffy and I-I don't want to I don't want to, the cost is, I don't want to spend $1,000 to be able to play King Kong for, I don't know, knowing myself, a couple weeks. $1,000? How about I go on vacation, you know? And then multiply that by every other game that keeps coming out. And it just sucks that it's an ongoing struggle. It's an even bigger struggle that to just play these games, if you don't want to buy them, you've got to find an arcade to play them at. And if you don't live in an area where there's a high pinball population, which I guess thankfully I'm kind of around it, but it's drive an hour and a half to play one of the newer games. Hope that the place close, which is a super family friendly, which is not the recipe or chemistry for pinball. I'm on a dark, dungy, punk rocky kind of place when actually what I really want is it in my own room at home to enjoy the music and sound effects and everything. But if you don't buy it and have to spend the money, you have to go find somewhere to play it. And if you find somewhere to play it and it's close, good on you. But a lot of us, it's hours away. And let's say going back that you do spend the $10,000 on a game and then inevitably lose a couple grand on it in this market, then you have to sell it. So you post to Facebook and deal with those worms or Pinside, which is It's fine. It's pretty good. But then you have to drive maybe up to five hours. I'm just, I'm too tired. I'm just done with the driving across states and this like, I'm going to get a pinball machine. And I'm kind of over the novelty of that. And it's kind of lost. It's like, oh my God, I have a pinball machine in my house. Now it's like, I got this heavy, expensive burden of a game in my house that I have to get rid of. It quickly, to me, Arm andrairtsяд Morgan Sovi , you gotta make a comment, if anything you have to make a comment is a comment will encourage a date, get your text in, talk tokel SHIPkeeping. But don't worry I have those people with me. Can Deplicityぜ and here's a first grade All of these are great. In a vacuum, pinball is fucking sweet. It's all the things revolving around it, orbiting, the cost, the space, those are the two hugest things. It's rarely the games. Even the worst Venom, even though, no offense, I mean some offense, games, garbage. I would love if Venom was and only 10 pounds and could fit like 5 of them in this room I have a Venom Hell yeah Venom awesome It fun to shoot some of it It fun to shoot Even Godzilla which I don really like that much Maybe not so much Scooby I have a slog However you get the point Beating it to death All that said the upcoming games we pretty lucky to be in this At least pinball is still going I want to play all of them I just don want to have to Ben Chenault, Darriel Thonst, David harmano, Richard Scaramucci, David Lippmann, Zach Leber, does not be in charge as Fed for any of thesebirth drinks taioryrible duitstekde support from any Zackador and CheroweUK, and the ComedyE ures, I'm olduğu. This week we're going to see the"? fun neighbor 많icare Minds Chandra Ant berg I'm not saying I highly suggest it, but people don't do them because they're not fun. They're a good time. Oh, I don't do drugs, as you say, drinking coffee or whatever. Yeah, you do. Or smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol. They're great. They make you feel great, but they all have their pros and cons. Why does pinball have to be, you know, such a heavy, expensive drug? Do you think aliens would think we're doing the smart thing? Playing pinball if they were like, Or AI. Oh my god. I'm going to ask AI right now. Why not? Do you think it's smart that humans play pinball? I wonder if I can feed it. I won't in this time. Actually, give me one second. I'll pause it. I'll be right back. I'm going to ask AI something. Okay, and I've done it and unpaused and we're back. I basically asked, nope, I literally asked, if you were an alien looking down at planet Earth and had to make a judgment call of people playing pinball, what would your opinion be keeping in mind the pros and cons? I gave it a couple pros and cons. Said the pros being a fantastic and fun hobby, the cons being it a very niche and expensive slash heavy market and please bring any of your own observations into the analysis. And here we go. From the vantage of our surveillance node in the upper atmosphere of sector three blue designated locals as earth. What the fuck? We have detected a peculiar ritual involving glowing spheres, flashing lights, and human vocalizations of both agony and triumph. Subject of study pinball. A cosmic delight. Joy extraction efficiency. Observed bipeds experience intense, focused joy while interacting with these machines. Their facial expressions suggest a trance-like pleasure similar to level 4 zarg meditation. I'm not sure if that's a real world reference or like this fake fictitious alien, but the rest of this seems legit. Let's continue. Skill based engagement unlike the chance based games of slot machines, which seem predatory, pinball demands motor skill reflexes and strategic thinking. This is intellectually nutritious recreation. Ooh, I like that. Physical physicality in a digital world. In a civilization dominated by virtual distractions, pinball offers a tactile experience buttons levers, steel balls, that's what she said, that stimulates also what she said, both cortex and cortex adjacent nostalgia. Cultural expression. Machines often depict mythologies or historical figures. See Star Trek, Addams Family, Elvira. Interesting that it picked those. Functioning as interactive shrines to Earth's cultural memory. Interactive shrines. I like that. Conveniently marvelous. Economic inefficiency. The average Earthling must part with considerable currency to own such a device. They are large, heavy, and maintenance intensive. It's as if joy is being measured in cubic feet. Don't try to be clever. That's stupid. Niche Appeal, only a small percentage of humans engage in this activity. Most are middle-aged males who describe themselves as in the know, limiting cultural proliferation. Oh, we suck! Technological paradox, in an age where an entire planetary knowledge network fits in a back pocket, see smartphones, this hobby relies on analog mechanics and moving parts, impractical yet beloved. Agreed. Fragile Devotion, oooh god this is just hitting home. If the tiny flippers break or the rubber bands wear down, it demands immediate worship by a technician priest. It's kinda dumb. Alien Opinion, Subjective Bias Engaged. We'll see where this goes. I must confess I am charmed. There is something beautifully defiant about pinball. It is chaotic, loud, glorious in its analog imperfection. Each machine is a microcosm, a tiny universe of flashing temptation and consequence, where gravity always wins, but the player gets to delay the inevitable. It's a metaphor, perhaps a ritual. Pinball is absurdly impractical, and that's what makes it magnificent. 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