I wearing it right?
That was the question.
Are you Are you wearing it right?
I hope so.
Are we live?
Hello.
Whoa. Hey, internet. Jack Danger here joined by
Elizabeth Gizki. Hello.
Yeah. And we are at Interarium in Shamberg where we are going to uh watch some pinball being played.
I I'm excited. I don't know about you. I I need more pinball at this time in the morning.
Um, we want to give a shout out to Mountain Dew. I'm a I'm a broken man, internet. Um, but yeah, here at the Stern Pro Circuit, uh, we have a lot of really cool stuff happening. We've got 32 players behind us. Um, $30,000 in cash and prizes, which include a brand new Stern Pro pinball machine.
Huge. I I mean, I would like a brand new Stern Pro.
Me, too. I I love free pinball machines. Well, I guess you got to earn it.
There's that. But free pinball might be the best kind of pinball.
I agree.
Um, but yeah, this event is uh this is everyone culminating from 20 events that happened over the past year and uh the format is sort of our take on the shooties. If you're not familiar, it's a a heads up style uh pinballish like objective based pinball.
I love objective based pinball. Honestly, like any tournament you give me an objective, I I will do that thing. Forget about it.
It's not,
dude. Yeah, points are for suckers. Uh, it's all about chasing like an idea. And this really is a lot more digestible for the public. Uh, both from a understanding point and from a time perspective because this is going to go a lot faster than watching someone hit the same ramp 300 times in a row.
Unless that's the objective.
Uh, oh, dang it. Is that an objective?
Uh, I don't think so.
Hit ramp 300 times in a row. Um, so yeah, it's uh best of 11. You have to be the first person to six wins. Um, yeah, I got some notes here. Six rounds total, so it's going to be three rounds, then a quarter, a semi, and then a finals. Uh, we don't know how long this is going to go.
I mean, it's up for them to decide. It could it they could go to 11 each round or, you know, sweep them with six. So, I'm here for you either way.
And I don't know if you can see behind me these weird ovals. We actually have like speed cubing timers. And if I'm not mistaken, a number should also show up for us here. So, what folks are going to do is they're going to start with their hands on it. The second they let go, a timer is going to start running. They're going to run over, complete the objective, run back, boom, time it, and call it there. And it's really a race against the clock versus like sort of battling each other, which I can appreciate.
Mhm. Yeah. Well, I mean, like pinball, you can always say it's like you're it's you against the machine. Um, but now it's like I think it's more like you against the clock. It's like you're bringing a whole new entity into into the mix, which is really interesting. I don't think most people play with the thought in mind of how fast did I get to, you know, the multiball
dragon multiball. Yeah.
Um, do we I don't know if we're sharing am I allowed to share this? I have a cheat sheet. Uh there's how many were was it like 23 20?
There's a lot of objectives.
Yeah, it's like three per game.
Yeah. Um and so the way this is going to work is uh like Elizabeth said, there's three per game. You have to walk up, choose the objective you want to do, and you can't repeat an objective unless you've exhausted all the other options.
Yeah. And I believe you said you can't repeat within the same round. So maybe the other person can't like choose the same one as you. Uh I'm not sure. We'll see.
Sorry, I was trying to get Oh, yeah. I was trying to hear Elizabeth a little bit more in in my ears.
Oh, maybe I need to be closer.
No, you you were great. I was uh I I could hear wheezing coming from No, we're good.
But um objective based pinball. Um, something that I I feel like it's a real treat is when you step up to a game that you've played a lot, but you've never gone for that thing, right? And then all of a sudden you find out that you're like, "This is the thing that I needed to bring my game up, right?" Like say you're and you can be playing, for me, I played uh Star Wars. No, it was Star Trek.
Okay.
And I needed to beat this GC score. I really wanted to get the high score on this game and I just couldn't do it. And then one day I was like, you know what? I'm just going to hit I'm just going to hit the warp ramp.
I'm just going to hit the warp ramp. See what happens.
Got the GC. That was the game I did it. And it Well, I mean, it just goes to show it's like sometimes you have to let go of the points
and then just play the game and the points will fall.
There there is something awesome about uh like you mentioned with this format, it really opens up parts of a game that you just didn't focus on. Uh, I know when I was streaming a lifetime ago, I used to say, I just want to see the game do cool stuff. I don't really care what numbers are showing up. And that is the same vibe here is like getting through the game and experiencing new and different content in it actually comes with a whole ton of points. So, um, yeah, instead of just chasing that like one or two million over here,
try to find some more videos that are going on in there. And by opening those up, you have obviously, you know, progressed your your score. So, um, what out of these games are you most excited to see being played today?
Oh, let's see here. Well, it's always fun to see the newer games. So, King Kong, uh, would be up there. And then, um, John Wick and X-Men have been getting a lot of new code updates. So, interested to see how, you know, people interact with that those games.
Uh, yeah. What about you? Uh, the one game on here that has the most objectives is Metallica, and it's the new Metallica. And two of the rules on here, or two of the objectives I actually didn't know how to get because it is new. So, that would be start 72 seasons and start hardwired. Um, I love watching Metallica being played. It It's so like it is a pinball machine. Like, if if you want like on Wikipedia, Wikipedia, this is what a pinball machine is. It's like the shots are great. The rules are straightforward and the same goes with the two new modes that we're trying to do here. 72 seasons. It's just it's a standups, 72 switches. After that, you're done. A question did come up though that I'm not sure if we got answered is if you hit a spinner and it's counting down those 72 switches, are you allowed to run over and say time while that's still counting down?
Oh man. Gosh. No. I I believe you have to actually start and once you hit zero switches it will automatically start the mode. Yeah.
So I I think you know we're going to have to be very vigilant. We have officials walking around and they'll have to say like
you know this doesn't count.
You you hit you didn't get the objective correctly. And
I'm we'll see if we run into that.
I'm concerned we're going to have to yell at some people.
Practice is over.
We're hearing Josh Sharpe saying practice is over which means we're about to get started here. You're going to hear some speeches going on about uh you know what to do, how to be nice to each other,
kill the games that are in progress.
Josh is talking about killing games.
Killing games.
Don't ever do that. Don't do that.
Uh I'm most excited to see one of these timers getting knocked over from someone rushing over and slamming it to the ground.
I'm going to be a little sad on the ones who forget to walk over.
Oh, actually.
All right, everybody. All right, let's do some announcements and get going.
Can you hear the announcements? I don't want to talk.
That's right.
Brought to you by
Mountainatches. [Music] Everyone is going to get their own challenge. If you pick a challenge, mark it off. You cannot pick the same challenge.
The games are set to 10 balls.
10 balls.
If you reaches 10 minutes, it will be [Music]
did not finish. Okay.
Yeah. Do it in 10 minutes.
10 10 minutes. 10 minutes.
Finish your 10 balls and do not is
You guys probably can't hear this, but we don't want to talk over the announcement. They're coming up with the rules on the floor.
What does
the challenge or position and then the loser after that will pick a challenge or position.
You cannot play the same challenge in the same match.
Okay.
All right. Higher seed chooses challenger or position and then after that the loser chooses challenger position. Okay. Stuck ball is a restart because we're
watching [Music]
Okay, there we go. If you knock the timer over
If you knock the timer over or break it, that's did not finish.
Yeah.
No, you need both hands.
Yes. Oh, you can pre your skill.
Well, it's important for Venom because you can't choose Eddie for this challenge of starting multiball.
Look at that bracket.
Like You're halfway up the right orbit. You're like, I got it.
Oh, are these buys?
Yeah. No wonder Raymond hasn't showed up yet,
dude. Yo, Raymond. Raymond doesn't even have to show up. But you know sometimes What is that? All right. A lot of rules were just thrown around.
Yeah, we wrote them down. We got it.
I didn't write anything down. Um, I'm exc uh I'm excited to see how some of this shakes out
because I I can catch a glimpse of where someone might screw something up maybe with the the timing of things, but we've got professionals on the floor to handle all that. So, let's uh we'll see how it goes.
Oh, we're taking a group photo.
There's such a delay on the thing. I don't think we I think we were just blabbing.
It's that guy.
Nobody knows.
Look at those monsters of pinball players all lined up in one spot. Love it.
Little buddies.
What's great is none of these guys have ever played pinball before.
Their first time. What a what a time. Um, I wanted to mention this before actually with
Oh, the the pen.
No, not the objectives. And um Oh, something I was thinking of as they were speaking is uh when when Stern is coming up with the badges or the uh you know the monthly uh quest.
Yeah, the quest. Yeah. Often times they they ask the coders like, "Okay, what what should they be?" And the things that I often suggest are the ones that people might not be focusing on the game but should be. You know, similar to this, it's like just, you know, do that new thing, right? So on Jaws, it was like start um a fishinder mode. Like people aren't like focusing in on that and then after you do, you realize like, oh, super life ring is really valuable. Oh, there's a wizard mode at the end of this. So, um, I think part of the, uh, charm of the Quest is to introduce new ways to play the game to people.
That's great. I didn't think about that, but yeah, that's that's an excellent way to like open the game up.
You got to be, right?
Oh, we're going to be able to hear.
Doesn't do anything. Obviously doesn't do anything either. You have to hold it.
Oh, man. I hope they don't start the timer.
There. There's the timer.
Yeah. You see Bowen just walking over there like, "Yeah, so uh, my upcoming game."
Yeah, right. There you go. And you release.
Are you hearing the conversation about how to use it?
And then go. Now, when you're done, it's just two taps. You got to have two.
Beautiful. Both hands.
Two taps. Both hands.
We're going to be following um our first round will be Travis Muri uh and Bowen Car. meant to be.
So once uh that kicks off, that's where we're going to first,
right?
I feel like we're
on I think the camera's a little can there.
We are on a on a boat.
Did that just move? Was that like that?
I'm concerned it's falling down.
Mark around.
Well, as long as the plate fields are are level,
that's a different ring. I mean, that's
they're actually uh shout out to Mark Pentau who brought all of his gear to broadcast this for us. Um the only thing we supplied I think was a monitor and then the aluminum rolling rig, but he brought all the cameras, batteries, mics, the whole nine yards. So, you know, shout out Mark.
Yeah, he was here before we got here.
Yeah, there was two cars in the parking lot. One of them was the first. He actually did not leave uh last night here. Yeah.
I mean, these are pretty comfy.
I'm drinking uh Mountain Dew. Same.
That's Wow. Okay. I don't have to scream anymore. Bowen Kerins and Travis Mury.
To the desk.
Bowen Kerins and Travis Muri.
Here we go. Excited. Bowen I feel like is the person that taught me how to play with his tutorials.
Yeah. his his videos very early on uh were the things that I first discovered when I got into
hearing hearing that and this is causing my brain to glitch. So, uh but yeah, we we can talk through it.
It's a little dissonant.
We got Chuck from uh Most who records all the stern content for us, making us look pretty.
Get my good side. Uh, so how many games total do we have here? One, two, three, four, five. So we have 10 machines. And for those of you at home that don't know what games we're covering, I'll I'll rattle them off right now. We got King Kong, Dungeons and Dragons, the Uncanny X-Men, John Wick, Jaws, Venom, Bond, Jurassic Park, Stranger Things, and the new mythology.
Oh, so much pinball. It's crazy that there's people that know more about the rules than on these games than even the designers do.
Yeah. Was that a burn for me?
No, I
uh thinking about myself because people come up to me and say things about Jaws and D and D, then I'm like, "Oh, that's interesting."
Oh, there's a rule in that. Um, yeah, that's
when I became a designer, I feel like I stopped memorizing rules as much on other games because my brain needed to focus on the thing I was working on.
It's true. Um, but it's it's nice to get back into this and understand what's going on. Um,
and some of this stuff, like again, Meta, that's why I love Metallica. Metallica's like, "Oh, you want Sparky multiball? Where's Sparky?" Hit him a bunch of times. Boom, you're in it. Yeah.
It's also interesting. I I misspoke before when I was asking about rules to people and how to start these things, and it's like, "How do you start hardwired multiball?" And they're like, "It's not a multiball." And I'm like, I'm so used to saying multiol when it comes to Metallica that, you know, I assumed here.
John Wick,
John,
Andrew, Lee, and Tim.
Pinball machine uh designed by Elliot Elliot Eismin. Lead software by Tim Ston. Um there is uh some stuff in it.
There there's a lot of lot of stuff in it. A lot of more work being done to this game uh by uh our friend uh Mike Vicor. And uh
is it Lonnie?
Lonnie is coding, but it's MXV. Well, Lonnie and MXV are tag team. Yeah.
Yeah. So,
I need
All right. So, we're just uh rattling off the teamups right now. You can probably hear it over the loudspeaker.
Right. So the choices of objectives that they have to choose from are start car multiball multiple [Music]
that's the the dance club top bumper area there
just get it up in there anyway you can
and then the last one would be
deconr consecrated
whatever it's the it's the one that has to do with the Winston. I think they're free on YouTube right now.
Oh, really?
Watch these movies.
Oh, and this is a promo.
All of these are promo.
Save for Stranger Things apparently. which is a premium.
Um, so you can see uh there's Bowen's back.
Um, so I didn't realize we were I thought we were leaving the timers here for us to see more. I got everything lined up. [Applause] Someone's getting [Music] Oh, no. Getting a test run to figure out how to do it. Okay. [Music]
Now, I I like this sort of like timer thing, especially when you control it.
And we were talking earlier that it would be have figured out how to figure it out.
How to bring awareness into the game.
I don't feel ready for any of this.
We do have a button sitting right in front of you.
Right. So, not only that, but we do uh have some software in these games.
What you software?
That's what I've been told. I'm still looking for
that inside ramp. I'm just looking for
right there. There you go.
But one day, you know, we have a lot of ideas coming in in the tank. things that we're excited about and every other week we always
All right. Well, at least the replay is all
need some party mode.
More to come.
So yeah, I'm Jack Danger with Elizabeth and Shamberg for the spring. 32 players that have made their way through [Applause] team and we have a lot of people to play But it's all so. So what? The color is I think it's a clocking down training has to walk through the road which is just but it is dangerous. [Music] [ __ ] [Applause] [Music] Okay. There's a very good chance that like if you hit it personally and maybe like kids started
beh [Music] does not function. Did not finish. Did not finish.
Oh, that's
Oh, we got the uh the challenge above there.
59. Look at that production nontop. [Applause] See if we get to see some, you know, maybe
okay. Maybe that was very good shot. [Music] [Applause] Look at that line. That guy is nervous. I can smell it. Watch out. All right, here we go. walk away.
Also remember the table or suffer the consequences.
You're getting close to the edge, my friend.
All right, he's got 10 seconds left.
Oh, he he didn't mean it, so he threw the
Well, now, okay. So, from a standpoint, does your time mean anything against anything else or is it just against your opponent? to six.
So that's bow and one.
All right. So now we know we get a minute is I would say a pretty fast time started.
And that's even with a lot of draining.
Like um I'm sure we'll understand this after a few games, but I wonder what your standard bonus like window is. Like is that carving off like six seconds that are precious? like is it worth a safer plunge because you're not burning that time on the bonus map.
These are the questions we need to be asking. Uh it's starting to sound like we're in a speedrunning community now.
How about it?
Right? Like
so even off those micro seconds.
Every frame counts when it I mean they and they do the math of you know how much time does it literally take to jump this way versus that? you know, is getting this item that powers my level up stronger worth it or, you know, do I bypass that because now I don't have to go out my way.
I'm waiting for people to figure out some glitches to get through.
Elizabeth's like, I would never glitch. I would hope so. I mean, I'm It's not that I'm not known for causing bugs every once in a while. Uh, a certain certain trillions in was a thing.
I love trillions. I say it's feature, but you know, if it makes it into production, it's an it's a feature.
It's a feature. It's always good. You're welcome.
What What's cool about watching what just happened was I think we're going to start seeing some more uh advanced flipper control.
It's true.
Um like you were mentioning, like try a loop pass. No one did it, but a loop pass is a very impressive way of controlling the ball on the fly,
right? Especially coming from that orbit fast.
Yeah. But if you but if you mess it up, you're you're toast.
Well, apparently because it is like every game is different. So like yeah, sure, do the full plunge, see what happens. But know if you do it again, it's going to likely do the same thing. So yeah, little minute changes that hopefully we pick up on and we're able to call out when we see it.
Okay.
All right. So we're doing King Kong Multigall. So that means that Travis got to pick the challenge in order
or position
or Oh, it's or or Okay. Uh and King Kong multiball. Um as Elizabeth explained it to me because uh I have a cheat sheet here is we're going to clear the drop targets on the left there over by the little baby flipper. And then that's going to light your center ramp up the middle. You're going to shoot that twice. And then you have to shoot the right ramp to start the multi.
Right orbit.
Right. That's what I said. I said right orbit. But we'll see if we got that right because Bowen is wasting no time.
All right, clear them drops.
Yep. Trying to get the ball.
Got the Oh, didn't lock it in in time.
Yeah. Tries to use the bridge diverter to keep the ball up there.
There you go.
Was that all of them? No,
he has one more or a certain number.
Oh, he has no more bridge. Oh,
yeah. I'm not sure how to re-qualify that bridge.
Uh, drain.
Yeah, an option. Okay. Some pro strats maybe.
Can you back it? Okay. Oh man.
Looks like it's possible.
All right. Well, I think he gets his bridge back.
We'll see if we I don't know if the drop targets reset. They do.
Oh, w
Oh, Keith, you're so mean.
All right. Let's see if uh Okay. Oh, yep. That's it.
Nope.
Once more.
There's one more in. Okay, there you go. Now you can see the the lock light on the center ramp doesn't quite make it up, but it is lit.
Yep. All right. It's the easiest shot in the game. Makes it from the left. No problem.
On the fly. [Music]
Okay. Okay. Yeah, I think you had to go one more. Right orbit. Right orbit. There it is.
That's it.
Perfect.
Really good. Very good.
9 hours and 51 minutes.
2 hours in the day. Oh, that's a new animation. Um, so yeah, kind of struggled on the drops on lightning blocks, but once you got them lit, no problem. So, I guess I think you do have to shoot the center ramp three times.
Three times. Uh, he also had like he had the right idea about using the bridge diverter to hold the ball up there. He just had it a little too late,
right? or or mis uh misused it. But uh again, no problem. So it looks like you can backhand it. Sweeping it would be lovely.
Oh yeah.
But yeah, that's tricky. This is this is a tricky game to light locks on. Clearing clearing the drops is no joke. And resets progress through the ball.
I do like that Keith's games like to reward you for sweeping the drop targets. This one even has an insert.
True, true.
Oh yeah, Iron Maiden sweeping those drops. I know I'm going to have a good game when I do that one. So, was that n 1 minute and and 9 seconds?
That what was 1 minute and 9 seconds.
All right.
I double negative there.
Y
can't fool me.
Now, both of these gentlemen are incredible pinball players. So, I know now that Travis like has a number to shoot for, I'm pretty confident he's going to be able to blast through this.
Man, I think that might be a strategy to go first, though, because that thinking about your opponent's time to be like
something else to think about. Yeah,
that's tough. That's right.
All right. So, we're going to I I bet this plunge here might be the the play is to try to get it up to that upper flipper with
Oh, yeah. Smart.
Right.
So, that is a skill shot is to get through the the bridge behind him.
Yeah.
I don't know if you can activate the the the bridge right away.
Uh the his button is lit blue. So, he's right. Was that a drain? All right.
Yeah. Brick into a drain.
Burning time right off the rip.
All right. He does use the bridge right there. So that's possible.
He was smart to use it. He just didn't make the plunge all the way.
All right, let's come around. We're looking for a sneak.
Oh, too clean.
Oh, and he left the flipper up, too. Let's see if we can get it. Okay, he's got one more drop left, it looks like. Good pass.
Oh,
just misses. There we go.
Okay, bridge into drop.
He It was a a rule.
Oh, got it. It was
He got ruled.
Just got ruled. All right, I think he's got one more drop target left. Maybe two.
There it is. I got it.
All right, center ramp is lit. Good pass. Good control.
Boom.
Two more shots.
Oh, does not go on the fly off.
Tried to do a little ski pass there. It just lost its momentum.
Yeah. Wait.
There you go. One more, buddy.
One more
on the fly. No. Center post.
They're still locked. And he's like, he must be right on the edge of that timer. Not that we can see.
Oh,
dang.
He had it. I think
Bowen just has that clean repeatable center ramp.
Yeah. Yeah.
Darn.
I think Travis is just too nonchalant. You see Bowen, he's like running to the game and the crap out of him.
That's true. And this might be the difference of uh you know this format. It kind of highlights different uh skills I suppose you can say. or focuses.
I like it. I like it. It's moving it along quick. I think if someone was playing Godzilla right now, we'd be still be sitting here watching player one ball one.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh just got through this tier two,
but that's okay. Oh man.
All right. So, we are on Kong again.
Um but now they have to change what the challenge is.
That's kind of smart to do the same game again. Because Travis lost, that means he got to pick challenger order again. Um, so we'll see what he showed because start spider multiballs next. That is achieved by hitting the magnet targets over on the left there.
Yep. Four times. Three. Three to qualify, once more to start. Total of four.
Is it any target or the like all of the targets?
Any of those little targets.
Got it. Cool. So, it's more like a bash rather than a, you know, shot.
Excellent. Yeah.
Um, but yeah, this is uh
Oh, Travis decided to go first.
Did I say or or or Bowen decided to go second? Tough to say.
That's true. I think if you lose, you get decision, though.
Uh, yeah. Yeah, but um it it defaults to the other other person. So, it could have been that Travis chose spider.
I know what I'm doing here.
We we do this for a living. One might say
professional uh pinball casters.
Something about pinball.
Shout out to Mountain Dew, Stern Pinball, IFPA, Entarium, Mark Padnau, everybody involved in this production. Thank you for having us. It's going to be a fun day of pinball. Is this live?
Yeah, maybe.
All right. Oh, we're getting right in. So, he went for the plunge into the spider.
Smart.
Oh, get out of there.
Time inside of the hook.
Oh, missed a shot on the target there.
We're hitting posts.
Now he's getting up to the
I can see the frustration in his face.
Good drop catch.
There you go.
Oh, another.
He needs one more. I I think.
Okay. Oh, love that kickback. Uh, don't love when it does that.
Let's see if he can plunge into it, though.
Oh, okay. Ski jump. Does it work? No. Oh,
so close.
Tries to alley pass there.
I I think you're right. I think I would appreciate going first, too, because you're setting the precedent there, and you're not having to freak out over like what number you're chasing. Although there there might be some some nerves here regardless.
Y
okay.
Oh, this is so this is on uh harder difficulty.
You have to hit the the pit way more, but we can see the progress on the screen.
And again, thankfully 10 balls. Oh, great plunge.
Yep. Ball safe. You can't turn those off.
Oh, really?
No.
Good question mark. All right, there we go.
All right. Oh, good. The magnet just halfway there now.
Yeah, man. You got to beat the heck out of that thing. Backhand.
Yeah, that was it. I love that.
So, this is a Oh, he got a couple of hits on that one.
I think he's adjusted. You can tell he's
The magnet hooked him up there a little bit.
Yep. Good nudge.
Is it on three tilt warnings? I feel like I'm watching them uh get warning after warning again.
No, he's he's just he knows exactly where to nudge.
Oh, yeah. That's
qualified. One more shot. Good alley. Too clean.
That was actually too clean of a
And he gets it. Button press. Stopped. All right, Travis.
Excellent work.
We don't know. That could be the time.
Two minutes.
Two minutes. I mean, it is a lot more uh shots than I was anticipating.
Yeah. Well, it's usually not that many on uh uh normal settings.
Normie settings,
right? Must have made it a little bit more interesting here.
So, we're able to adjust the difficulty on this like how does that work on a stern pinball machine? Like are do you the software uh guru decide like I'm going to make this a setting to be harder
for this situation? Yeah, in certain we so we have factory defaults for for everything. Um but we almost always on Keith games actually it's it's easy, medium, hard,
Carl.
Okay,
that's what they say. That's great.
And it and so on on certain defaults though, you can say it's set to easy. Other ones are most are set to medium, but some like it's kind of maybe late in the development cycle and we decide, oh, you know what? It's way more fun if it's set to easy or or set to hard. Um, there are certain settings where I'm like, I I wish it was I wish it was hard or, you know, but, uh, we have a lot of discussions on those things to pace the game correctly and make sure that you're seeing what you need to.
Um, but yeah, most of it's it's strange to think that most of the adjustments aren't going to be touched after you decide what they ought to be because up to that point, they're touched all the time of, you know, we're figuring stuff out.
Yeah. All right, Bowen is up. Uh, again, start spider multiball. His time to beat is 2 minutes and 3 seconds with some fancy numbers at the back end there. I think that's pie, right? All right, here we go.
Oh, and he gets a free
plus three balls.
All right. Also accidentally goes into that vuck. Let's see.
I hear that's a good idea. Oh,
look at him.
Already knows where that pit is. Good transfer.
Good grief. He is uh he's nailing. I'm loving that pass.
Yeah, that post stop pass.
Yeah. Okay, wise decision to not flip there.
Good bounce.
Game control right now. Oh my god. Oh,
two.
I think there might be
the game's hooking them up. Okay, who cares, man? Let let it go.
Good progress.
We're We're looking at under a minute right here.
World record.
Yeah.
I mean, theoretically.
Oh. Oh, the skill shot.
The anti-skll shot.
Always fun. Keith always finds the every use of a skill shot in a game.
Oh
yeah, I think that got it. One.
So, two more shots to finish one.
And
is he going to try the back?
Yeah, he tried it. It didn't work.
And there.
Beautiful. Cash it up. Yeah. What are you doing?
Right on over there.
17.
It's pretty good.
Dang.
Interesting that it seems like around a minute is the amount to get an objective. I'm It's interesting to see. I wonder if uh time.
Hey, we haven't seen chaos multiball yet. So,
oh, good grief. Yeah, we were looking at some of these objectives and Geese is like, uh, yeah, start chaos is like,
I'm going to need that full 10 minutes.
Fun you.
Spell chaos in order. Some of those shots or one of those shots isn't the easiest to hit. Actually, two of them aren't the easiest to hit.
Um, so yeah, that'll be fun to watch, especially on a 10 ball,
right? Oh, how I'm glad I'm not on camera on me. Can you imagine? I hit the O on accident. That's how I hit the O.
Yeah, that's fair.
O is the right orbit, right?
Right orbit.
Yeah.
And um yeah, if I were to if I were to venture the hardest shot of any Keith game, I would say the O.
The O.
Um I have asked Keith this question of what is the hardest shot in any of your games?
Yeah. and he uh surprised me with the the the D drop target on his James Bond and I'm like that's very specific.
I know it is. I'm like you're you are right but I mean in my mind I was thinking like major shot not drop it.
The uh the the O on Jurassic Park is a doozy.
Yeah, it's pretty rough. I'm trying to think of it there. No, there's other shots that are
the Captain America shot on AIQ.
Okay. is uh like you you have to
there's a lot of stuff that can mess that shot up, but when you hit it, it is smooth.
You do have to split the gap there.
I love shots through drop or through pop bumper.
Yeah. Same.
So like the left maiden.
Uh the uh it's it's King Kong with his predecessor.
Godzilla.
No. Um the '9s game with the the gorilla.
Oh, Champion Pup. No, the gorilla. But I I
Oh, Congo, Congo, Congo, Congo. Congo. Yeah, the hippo shot. I always think it was like hippos. That's not the game.
Hippos.
But uh yeah, I think that's the OG shot through the pops.
Yeah. Borgi likes to do it, too. Kiss, rush, all that stuff.
First,
so we're seeing a promo for Dungeons and Dragons, which I think means we're going to see some Dungeons and Dragons.
I know a thing or two about this game.
What do you know about Dungeons and Dragons?
Oh, seldom. Seldom. Uh I I know a lot about very specific things about this game, but the objectives that we're going to be uh having at our disposal here are start dragon multiball and start gelatinous cube multiball.
Just the two.
Just the two. Yeah, there was some more on for up for debate. But the interesting thing about this game is that it changes per week and some of those other objectives are easier or harder based off of
the date.
The the the date.
That's awesome. Now, I think competition modes makes it set uh to a certain uh rule, but still uh it's hard to keep everything tracked, but that's the beauty of this game. That's the whole point.
Again, uh Lead Software, Dwight Sullivan, designed by Brian Eddy. Uh Elizabeth had a little something to do on that game, too.
Yeah, I was. And I was also there.
And me.
I always say I'm like, "Yeah, I I I uh uh the the the leads carry the couch and I carry the cushions."
Okay, I love that. But hey, cushions are important.
Cushions are very Yeah. A couch without cushions.
Some might say that that is what you
the most important part of the couch. I mean, if you didn't have the couch and just the cushion, you can still sit down.
Yeah, but forget about it. Yeah, I'm not going to sleep on that couch, you know.
That's fair. All right. Looks like Travis is going to start us off with start dragon multiplay.
Interesting. So, now you can choose. It's a Dwight game, so you can choose which character you want to play as. And this might play a factor. Does any character uh make it easier or harder to start talking
I think does something maybe. But I would probably choose Helanir because she has a longer uh shield time and it says it right on the right.
Oh yeah,
I know this. It's been a while since I've take a close look at this game.
All right, we are off. So Star Dragon Multiball is hitting the targets underneath the dragon, which he's already done, but he fell into the little scoopdoo. Yeah, it's a little bit of a luck involved in terms of doing this quickly because you really need that ball to return to the flippers
and do that.
There's a little misflip there.
So, uh, explain to me what we're doing. We're We're hitting the dragon targets to spell dragon. That was a great catch.
So pretty.
Okay, looks like we're going to be seeing
Oh no, there's that spot dragon letter. Did you see that?
He just blew through it. He didn't want to be in there.
So, everyone write that down. Cobalt town has a spot dragon letter at Fismo because Fismo based off of what town you're in, it offers different items.
These live catches are actually insane.
And oh, right or the side ramp. As long as he doesn't start a mode, that side ramp will be available to him to start Dragon Ball.
Oh, okay. It's fine. We just get this beautiful life.
Can you get it off the plunge?
No.
Or I mean, yeah, if you short punch it.
Beautiful shot, dude. That was on the fly.
All right. I think that's 1.2, which
if we know anything is a good
that's a decent
time if you're in near the minute mark then you you've done what you're supposed to do.
Oh my goodness, this game is so alive.
Well, I'm I'm excited to see what Bowen does because we saw that there is a deflection into the Fismo shot
that was eating up a lot of time. So maybe Bowen changes how he shoots it with a backhand maybe. So it's not
but there was a spot dragon letter.
True. But is it worth having to
the time to flip over it?
See, these are the questions.
Oh, yeah. Of course, dragon multiball being a uh quite a long multiball, you can't really drain out of it. It's more you uh you lose out of it. Okay.
So, uh we're going to see a lot of restarts here.
The tyrant. All right. Restarting the the hand calculator.
Yeah, we have people from all over the world here at this tournament, actually.
Right. I saw Arvin walking around. He's from Sweden, Europe, somewhere in Europe. I think it's Sweden.
I Yes.
I I should not be saying things that I don't know for sure.
Shout out to Sweden. Um
All right. Chooses a Helener.
Also Helen. Okay. Oh,
never mind.
Oh.
Oh, is good against dragons, but I think it's actually good against dragon multiples. So, like while you're in it. Oh, scorewise, not objective.
That or maybe it's less hits. Uh, this game went through a lot of iterations. So, uh, at one point it might have been different, but that's the whole beauty of a game. Until it reaches 1.0, nothing is safe.
That That's also something I struggle with sometimes is like I'll remember a rule in a game that didn't make it or like it changed dramatically.
Yeah.
Uh, I remember the Jurassic Park home game I was bragging about. I was like, "Wait till you see this thing that we do with this mode." And then uh Wa's like, "Yeah, we know. Remember we didn't do that." I'm like, "Oh, okay. Well, forget that part of it."
Yeah.
All right, Bowen. What do you got for us, buddy?
Checking out the playfield.
So, hitting the targets under the dragon lights a dragon letter under the dragon's head.
Yes.
And once you've spelled dragon, you got to shoot the right orbit or that left side, right?
Yes.
Got it.
Oh, okay. There's the There's the
the Fismo. That's That's the geometry there. Oh yeah.
Oh,
it's always a question of how you want to deal with that field from the side flipper.
Okay, good hit. Oh man, he is almost there.
Two more.
Good clean shot.
One more.
One more. Come on.
Oh, uses the shield.
Shield. All right,
one more.
Oh no, it gave him a free shot to the orbit. Okay.
Uh
oh, they must be lit. It's not just any of the one. No, no. Yeah, he is in a mode, but it doesn't prevent you from making progress. There it is. I think you have to shoot one that's lit on this.
Oh, yep. Yep, yep, yep.
All right, there we go.
Get it.
Oh, he he gets it.
Under a minute.
That's the first uh sub50 objective we've seen.
47 seconds. GG, Bowen. So, uh that is 4 Bowen to Travis.
Oh, man. But hey, reverse sweep.
Yep. You're not out of it until it's first to six. Um out of 11.
Yeah. So, you know, next game is up.
We're still
Forget about the rest.
Trying to carefully cover my drink by the microphone so you can't see what I'm doing.
Right. He's drinking Mountain Dew, everybody.
Do the do with Mountain Dew. So, I'm curious if they'll uh again stay on the same game. Do gelatinous cube? They looked like the uh shield was feeding the left orbit.
Oh. Oh, true. Very cleanly, which is the most important shot for start gelatinous cube.
It's the only shot for gelatinous cube.
I just learned this. Um so to start gelatinous cube, it's hit the left orbit. Then when it diverts down to a ramp, hit the left ramp. Then when it comes up, hit the left orbit. When it diverts back down, hit the left ramp. when it locks the ball. That's what we're considering having completed the the most.
It looks like we're going to be seeing it here, which I I understand now that you know that the shield feeds the left orbit cleanly cuz it's different game to game. Sometimes it feeds the right ramp better uh versus the left orbit. So, definitely I'm thinking Helener.
Sorry.
There we go. Longer shield time.
Yep.
The wizard.
Yeah. Yeah. Helen Weart. I came up with all these names, by the way.
Oh, really?
Yeah. Oh, I came up with like 70 names, actually, and then Dwight picked the ones he likes.
I remember when everyone was passing around ideas for a lot of the characters and items and things in this game and trying to I mean, I don't know what's a lot said, but like the thinking about the dragon and all that.
The dragon name uh took a while. They didn't come up with any dragon names, but yeah, it was
Oh, come on. Get through it. get through it.
Come on, bonus.
So, it looks like the left ramp is
Oh, can't backhand it, I guess.
Can you typically backhand it?
No. No, he tried though.
All right, so now you got to hit it again.
All right, nice. Left orbit.
Shield
doesn't need it. Oh,
I I
take it anyway.
Hey, there's the back hand. Okay. Okay. See, you always learn something new even about the games you work on. Now, does progress restart with that uh diversion when you drain? Cuz it looks like it does.
Yeah, it looks like it. So, two two.
Oh, yeah. The the backhand makes sense because when it's not a ramp, it's just whatever. Oh,
get out of there. Get out of there.
He started a mode.
I like this mode if it if it matters.
Get up there. Use your shield on
Well, I don't know. Maybe it doesn't have enough power to get up when the left ramp is down. But yeah, I would use the shield.
Yeah,
just to see if it works.
He chose the character with the longer shield.
Yeah, get it.
It does not use it.
1 minute 18 seconds.
All right.
It's a style points, you know.
It's really easy to relight the shield, too.
Now that he's locked a ball there. So, traditionally playing this game, what do you have to do to start that multiball?
Yeah, you can either shoot the right orbit to lock another ball or any other shot to start multiball.
Got it. Uh, according to the screen, I just read the
It literally just plunged, locked, shot, and started the multiball itself.
Yeah,
that was awesome.
Well, it timeds out after a while.
Time out.
Or or maybe it did hit a shot off the plunge. And yeah, I'm totally
uh Cory coded in the the cube multiball.
Cory Cory is currently helping us on the uncanny X-Men.
That's right. Uh him and Mike Vinor, our tag team event.
Yeah. Cory was my in first strength.
Oh, really?
Yeah. Yeah. I I met I met Corey and then maybe like 4 years after first meeting him, he's like, I have this uh interesting thing to talk to you about. I'm like, okay. All right. Interested.
Oh, walking in.
Yeah. 3 months later, we actually meet cuz that man,
he's busy busy guy.
Yes, he is. He's uh he's doing the thing, though. Well, that those were the two objectives. Um, the other ones that we were looking at for D&D was Tavern Brawl. Start Tavern Brawl, okay, which is to start three modes and then that will be at the the center to start Tavern Brawl.
I can see why that was probably eliminated. That would take some time.
Longer, but I mean, it's kind of interesting for these longer. I mean, I would be, you know, to sprinkle in more get to a mini wizard mode, you know, why not? Heck
yeah. And then the other one was a start Tiny's Dice game, which um is also a mode that you can start. Is that the one with the three modes? One of them you can buy off the FSMO.
You know what I appreciate about this broadcast? We're looking more and more like characters from uh the 1960s Batman show
where it's starting to do like the the Dutch the Dutch angle.
Yes.
Like Arvit. Oh, wait. We're doing He what? He needs to do gelatinous cube still, right?
Oh, so because they Oh, yeah.
No, he just hasn't done it yet.
Oh, no. Wait, he just did. He did. Oh, no. He has
We watched Travis. Okay, here we go.
Very early internet. Relax. Okay, left.
Also, not going to shield. Not yet, at least.
So, he used he got the left orbit. Now he wants to shoot the left ramp. I like how I'm saying nice dead bounce before they even do it just because we know
now. Why do you call it a dead bounce?
Oh, instead dead flip. Oh, I don't want to get confused. Uh,
that's right. That's fair. I found people stopped saying dead flip after um I started using that nomenclature.
That's funny.
So, it's all dead bounce now.
Um, all right. So, he's he's close. He just has to do one more set of
one more thing.
Left orbit, left ramp, cuz he had drained, so it reset his progress. And right
looks like
left ramp
cash out.
All right. And he knew
42. Okay.
Pretty quick.
The other time was a minute 18. So
we got another sub50. Are we going to see a sub 40 time?
Oh man. So do they stay on DND
or do they move to another game then?
They get to choose, but they're certainly not going to. They could. No, you can't repeat.
Well, now that they've done both, you can repeat.
Yeah, but you can't repeat a same one during the same round regardless of you clearing it out. I'm going to say that rule. And I'm I'm saying that that's the truth.
I am glad Gizki's here because I'm uh not good at paying attention.
Oh, I'm so good at making things up and passing them off as super true and very uh very confident about these things, including how to start Tiny's Dice game. Oh, I know how to start Tiny's Dice game.
Oh, wait. Yeah, wait. I printed out some fun little [ __ ] qualify it by purchasing from FSBO or start three modes.
Oh,
Tavern Brawl is doing three modes to qualify. Dragon Ball to Ball, Gelatinous Cube, and Dungeon.
Okay,
silly me. I I knew that. I didn't have a cheat sheet. I just remembered this. Uh
yeah, wait, I didn't see cheat sheet.
No, I didn't have anything to do with any of the multiballs or the the I only did the modes.
Can you move the rig off D and D?
Moving the rig off of D and D.
Okay, I only did the modes. The 30 modes that are in that game. He's like, "How many endings are in this game?" What?
I love it. Uh I I still don't have one at my studio. It was uh I'm supposed to get all these games to like broadcast, and this is the one I did not get because we cannot keep them in the freaking building.
Ah. Oh, I see. They are. It's is a It's a game that the more you play, the more you you learn. There's a lot of little details about the game that that you know, you won't uh notice on your first play.
I I love those Dwight games. I had a Venom in my studio for a very long time and uh like getting all the unlocks and uh getting through that story line several times was freaking awesome.
Very different way of playing pinball which I can appreciate.
Right. And that's that's why variety I think is key, you know.
Or the spice of life they say.
I They do say that 52 flavors.
Oo. I thought it was 31 flavors.
Yeah. Okay. The ketchup hind thing.
Oh,
the spices. Is that
57 spices?
Is that what that that's called?
Yeah.
Hines 57.
Is he
not that it came out in 1957?
No, it is. It is a number of spices apparently
from Hines, Pennsylvania.
Why am I saying things that I super don't know on? My siblings make fun of me on this. They're like, Elizabeth, you have such random trivia that is completely false.
It's 30 types of different black pepper. It's all
That's right. All right. Start demog. So, I was unclear about this, but it is the the demo dog targets actually say D O G on the right there.
Yeah, they they there's a D. They all have the letters. Yeah, there's letters in behind the uh the flaps there. You got the N. You see that?
The only targets that aren't demo dog related are the two left ones on the left ramp because those are for the lock shots for the multiball.
Yeah.
Got it. Yeah. So, we are almost clear here. He's he's doing some good work. He only needs me. Jeez.
Uh, it needs the He does need the the far G still.
The far D and the far G
the that target is a bit of a pain in the butt to hit because it's sort of backwards facing.
It's kind of not I don't know. You have to get a ricochet
off of the I'm excited to see how they shoot that on purpose. No, it's not. That's the gate. That's the gate. That's not a
All right. Actually, he hit
I think he's just missing that backwards G target.
Right. Right. Right. Right.
It's the only one left. So, we're we're going to see some fun here.
Are we still doing the thing where like once once per round you could take the glass off to touch a target with your hand?
No.
Not.
I don't know where you got that information.
What?
Yeah. This is going to be tough. Like what? What do you
there? No. No. Didn't get it.
How do you do this with the lock?
Did he Okay, he's upside down.
You can see he's a little
Which is the worst. You want to drain out of this as soon as possible. There you go.
Cuz that that locks you out of progress everything else.
Come on, bonus. Come on, bonus. Come on, bonus.
All right. Looking for the G.
How is he going to get this?
Uh, very very accidentally or
Oh, that's the ricochet. So off those lock targets. Wait, is that going to kick it out? All right.
Did we go a glit? That spotted it for him.
How? Oh,
he just needs to hit the left orbit thingy.
So it's the left of center shot. Yeah, right there. But it has to go all the way.
On the plunge. Hello. There you go.
Jeez. Okay. I didn't realize. So either the scoop or the skill shot scoop
gave him a letter. Yeah.
Yeah. We're Well, I I need a live chat. I need to get some help.
The smarter people uh
I'm not pulling out myself.
Well, it's this minutia, right? Like I know how to start demog you know like the uh skill shot spot things like I did read uh tilt forums and shout out to everyone that contributes to tilt forums. like thank you so much and being so like dig diligent on things like this where it's skill shot spots you this or like this scoop spots you this and making little connections so the
it's fun to watch them put like rule sheets together that like we don't even have like a formal like sheet like that.
Yeah, well we do but there's a bunch of crossed out there's a TVD need to fill this one in and uh
I guess public facing. All right, so he's got the D. Now, you don't have to spell it in order.
No, you just got to you got to hit him.
But I think he's starting to show he wants to show off.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe it's double scoring. There's the E. So, the scoop.
This spots a letter.
There's the O.
The D and E for good measure.
He's got He's spelled D O so far.
The EO.
He's one more up there.
There's the M. All right. He's got demo.
Three more on the right. There's the D
and he's got the G.
G. Oh man, that
free G.
Yeah,
it's a cell phone service, right?
So, he's shooting a scoop there. That must that must spot.
Oh, there we go. No problem. No problem. He has a a minute left. It took two minutes for for Travis. Misses the skill shot here. Tries that again. Spots the letter.
Now he has to shoot the left of center shot. Let's see if he can one time it.
Beautiful. And he doesn't even rush back to the timer.
All right. Oh, I guess he doesn't have to. Yeah,
but uh Yeah,
Bowen is on a tear right now. That was it. That was six.
That That's uh impressive.
Shout out to Bow and Karens.
That I I mean uh I'm interested. We need to have a high a leaderboard of all of these times just to see who doesn't.
It would be cool to like much like the high scoreboard. I want to see like what the fastest times were
exactly
uh to leverage against other things that we're going to see happening.
Right.
That was a great round one. Um two very amazing players. Travis is no slouch. Bowen has been uh an amazing pinball player for 700 years.
Yep. Yep. Yep. That's somewhere around there. Um, but yeah, I would say Travis is someone who's more uh kind of analytical while he's playing and likes to, you know, take in what's going on and takes his time and things. So, it is interesting to see him force into this format, force himself to play maybe a little bit differently.
I love it. And here you can see a shot of the bank of games behind us. Uh, left to right Stern pinball machines. Um, here at Ontarium, they've got a whole mess of games. If you're ever in Shamburgg, please stop by and check it out. Again, shout out to Mountain Dew, Stern Pinball, and IFA for having us. Looks like round one, at least for Bow and Travis, is done. And then Bowen will be battling Derek Price in round two.
All right, Dere Derek. I hear he's originally from Kentucky, my homeland. I think he lived in Kentucky for a bit.
Kentucky. What What's Kentucky known for?
Bourbon.
Oh, yeah.
And horses and meat. Oh, and geese.
Yeah, that the three things to come out.
Oh, of the Kentucky geese skis. I
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, actually we're we're a thing. We're a thing there.
Um, but here you can see all the battles that are happening. Zach Sharpe versus Bill Mason versus Consecut, Andy Behold, and Chamber Jim Weisz, Cody Webb, Galvin Morgan, Nick Stein, Joe Lamir, our very own Keith Ellen versus Neil Graph of Fox Cities, Josh Sharpe versus Tom Graph. Um, is that all of them? Yeah, I 32 players.
32 32 amazing.
Yeah, I mean the 32 is mixed across round twos and threes by um Yeah. So, you got to you got to play in a lot of Pro Circuit events to be qualified for these things.
No doubt.
Yeah.
20 in total uh over the last year season to get to these 32 players that we have uh with us today. Um, and I'm not sure how far along a lot of these are going, but if that one that we just watched has any inclination, uh, this is actually going to go pretty quick.
I That's the whole idea of this format, as in do the thing quickly.
Chase the objective as fast as we can. I want to see selfishly a 10 ball game.
Oh, yeah. Just Oh, man. That
just maximum. So, okay. Do you think like which of these is going to get people to 10 balls?
It's the O target.
It's going to be the chaos multiball.
Okay. I'm looking at others. Um now Metallicas are interesting just because the the two ones I just have never done ever
cuz I I haven't played a lot of the new
I think to me my X-Men might get people to 10 balls.
Uh if they are um confused on how to qualify it maybe. But um
the targets and the ramps. Yeah, I I practiced actually yesterday on X-Men to start start to mean
Oh, sure. X-Men.
There's a lot of swearing going on right now.
Cover your ears.
Familyfriendly stream. Shout out to Mountain Dew.
Keeping it family friendly.
Uh, one that could be long as well, maybe the NYC events on on uh
Okay.
It kind of depends on where those shots are lit. Maybe just no one can hit that side ramp and it's just
So it's three sets of climb target.
Yeah. And they're random. So
got it.
I mean, I'm sure in competition play they're going to be the same across players, but uh yeah, you might you might have a climb target that or a climb shot that is on a tough one.
Internet, if you want to take a screenshot, here's our cheat sheet. I don't know if you can see it very well. The answer is no. Unless my I don't have my glasses on. I'm old. my other cheat sheet.
I put logos on though.
It was so fancy. I like me.
He sent me this like wall of text and I was like,
"This is the difference between us is that my my markdown language uh same thing. It's the same. It's the same thing. They know this is so much nicer." Yeah. At a glance, you can tell.
Yep. That's what I need.
Yeah. I kind of wish it was still uh fishinder.
Fish finder for Jaws.
I justice for fishinder on Jaws, guys.
Bring it back.
Just do it. Like just play fishinder. Okay. Like super super fishinder whatever is like the best multiball in the game.
Fight me.
How many uh how many people in chat have played pinball before?
Oh, that's a lot of people. We can't see chat, but I can only assume
if you're here, you you've played a lot. There's 10,000 people watching this right now and you're all typing a hand emoji on your cell phones.
All right, moving on to the new
Joe Lamir jumping right in.
Sparky.
So, how do you start Sparky?
The OG the OG multiball star. Shoot the thing a lot.
Yep.
As in shoot the electric chair.
So, all the way in the back is a little skeleton bro. That guy right there. Just shoot him a whole bunch of times. Right now, it says charging one of 10. Uh, three of 10. Looks like the magnet might have helped him out there a little bit.
Yeah. Well, don't you get different progress based off of what target?
Oh, target versus uh feet.
So, if you hit the target, you get
eight of 10. Here we go.
He shot the hammer
because you know, points.
Got to get those points. It's bragging rights, right?
It's the last one that's just so hard to get some.
That's it. Time it out. Ooh, 41 seconds.
And we get this lovely multiple start. Oh, yeah. Look at those lights.
Look at that. I've never seen that from up here.
Holy moly, that moves.
Um, one of my like I've never seen a game as modded by the community than
Okay.
A Metallica. People love to take their Sparky heads and have someone remold them, redo them, re whatever.
Uh, officially don't do that. Unofficially. Very cool.
I need to use the restroom.
Yeah.
Take the elevator. Oh, do I need to step out?
Unfortunately.
Yeah. Okay. internet. Watch this.
All right, let's see what start Sparky can do. Oh, we've already got a lot of decent progress since I spit up. Eight of 10. 10 of 10. One more shot. Can you get it? Oh, that's it. Go. 30. That's the That's the W there. 34 seconds, man. That was quick.
You know what? We needed a Deadpool and we needed something something max out the the snicked playfield shots. I love that. All right. Um, this game here, uh, originally and more recently designed by John Board. Uh, Raymond Davidson, uh, helped bring breathe new life into this game for the re-release of it. Um, polishing it up and adding some modes, too. And one of them you will be seeing at some point is the start 72 seasons and start hardwired. Uh, but it looks like they're going for the uh the quick and dirty ones right now, like start sparky, start snake multiball, start grave marker. All of those are like there's the toy. Hit it. Start the thing. Dunzo. Beautiful shot of Imperium on a What day is today? On a Wednesday morning. Hopefully, we're going to see a lot of you at Expo this weekend. A lot of fun games we're bringing. And Elizabeth is back.
I'm hearing the uh the swerier uh sharp brother right now.
Which one is that? That that would be uh
I'll let you guess.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So, did we did we see a sub 40?
Yeah, it was 34 seconds
and I missed it.
Yep. Sorry.
Jeez. It's 34 seconds, right?
Did you wash your hands?
Absolutely.
34 seconds.
I'm the speedrunner, actually.
Right. Exactly.
Yeah.
Uh-huh. Um, bathrooms. So, uh, yeah, this is this is it that they blew through those Metallica. So, now we have to move right to I don't know what they're doing. I think it just happened so quick. They're not know I just noticed we're on the screen behind us. I I saw you laughing over my head.
Heck yeah. Uh, well, internet, thank you for joining us today. Uh, thanks for hanging out and giving us your Wednesday morning. [Music] Hopefully again we'll see you at Expo. Come give us some high fives.
Tell us what you would change on all of our pinball machines.
My favorite conversation.
There there is a lot of that and I agree with most of the things.
Yeah, actually typically not wrong.
It's it's more of like Oh man, I me too. It is. It's me too.
I want a co-op with co-op inside of it. So it's like double co-op. So like I can play co-op on this machine which controls this one.
Okay. Maybe everything but that idea. I haven't heard that one though.
Double co-op.
Um, yeah. No, my favorite thing to do at at Expo is to find you in random places and be like, "Jack danger."
And I have like three on my phone still.
Just fake gas me up for no reason.
I love it.
Yeah. And finding um Elliot Hall of Famer.
The That's true. Elliot Elliot Eismin is in the Pinball Hall of Fame, folks, if you didn't know.
Yeah. to 2018.
Yep. Um for for his engineering chops and now he's a designer.
Yeah. See, you can do it too.
If he can do it,
internet, if I can become a designer in pinball, freaking come knock on the door, dude.
Just need need to make a homebrew. Y say that's one thing I love at Expos.
Oh, the homebrew section.
Yeah, absolutely. I It's honestly the homebrew section and then the pre-war pinball machines are like my two favorite places to hang out. It's like all of the the like
ball and pin like mechanical things from like the 30s. I love those games.
Absolutely. And I mean like anything pre uh preolid state like you know they're harder to find for one the just and whatnot but yeah and the bingo bingo
Oh the bingo games. Yep.
Machines.
Yeah, but there should be over 50 homebrew games this year.
What?
5. I think that's more pinball machines than we're bringing. I I don't I don't know.
50.
Amodo Marco convinced me to put my original homebrew back together. Um, and then while while it doesn't work, they're going to make some content out of making it work. Uh, the brains died on it a long time ago. But yeah, if you want a job in pinball internet, uh especially designer or even software, build a physical thing. Oh, speaking of
Yeah, I hear his homebrew did pretty well for him.
Nice shirt. Get to the top of
it. It is funny to think like these people do pick their shirts
strategically,
you know. Yeah, it's like I I spent a long time of which Stern shirt do I wear? Yeah, I have I only have like one Stern shirt.
I have my three.
Uh but internet. Yes. Some inside baseball Easter egg stuff. If you see uh several Stern employees like on some content, pay attention to the shirts they're wearing.
Yeah. Okay. So, it looks like I'm guessing it is start bird one.
Okay.
Start the bird.
So, that's hitting the drop targets until the light box shot up the middle goes. And you shoot all the way up there.
Yeah, you got to go all the way around there.
Oh, since it's the pro, it doesn't stop it.
No, we're we're playing fast here. Two for free.
That was a freebie.
Got to shoot the drop first. This is on hard. Normally, you just have to clear them once.
All right. Just going to shoot into the pop area.
Oh, good. Hey,
nice shot.
It's number two.
One more.
One more time, as Death Punk would say. Oh, one more time.
Oh, no. He shot past it.
There we go.
There we go.
All right. One more shot up the middle.
And plug it. No.
No. I was waiting for him to like turn around and run.
Yeah. I want to see Keith run.
Yeah.
Get
Oh, it's a little bit harder from the right. And come on. Bring it down. Bring it down. Double flip. Double flip.
Push it through. All right. Solid plunge. He did. What? He's trying to get it to the bottom flipper.
There you go. One time.
There it is. Beautiful. And that I knew it. I knew you. I've never seen him run.
Dang it.
He's going to saunter over. He even did like a full 360 and then turn back to get to it.
I want to see the bone car run.
Yeah. From everybody.
Yeah. I need action. Yeah.
All right. 1 minute and 30 seconds. All right. Uh Neil Graph also no slouch when it comes to playing pinball. Looks like he's ranked 22 with the IFPA right now. Um yeah, we'll see what he's able to do.
The Keith's first shot up to the lock shot looks like it rattled a little bit. Um
and then sometimes control it's deceptively difficult to shoot.
Um it's nice. I think on certain uh situations you only have to hit that switch. The uh front switch.
Oh, sure.
The hanging one.
What's the proper name for that?
What? It's a roll under gate.
Roll under gate.
Yeah.
All right. 1 minute 33 seconds is the time to beat. Two off the Oh, actually all three.
How the heck did he do that?
Jeez, how do I know?
All right. There there's that rattle we were talking about there. Let's see if we can get up
tighter from the right. We are loving that dragon target.
It is kind of like that.
Oh god.
It's so tough to read these speeds coming out of here. It's always It's always a little
a scoop shooting up field.
Yeah,
it's hard to quantify what that's going to do. But good catch.
There you go. There's one.
Lock. Play the drops again. Okay,
first drop. We're at 40 seconds.
Oo, good shimmy.
Yep,
right off the wood. My head followed that ball.
Yeah.
Up and down. All right.
Squats him again.
Got the double again.
It's probably the most efficient drop.
All right. There you go. Oh, man. He's got 30 seconds to try to to try to knock these down and hit it.
All right. If he if he's keeps up his
one again.
Okay.
And
oh man, he's got to go. 15 seconds.
And there it is.
Oh my good. Get over there. Oh,
he had 10 seconds. It's fine.
Oh my god.
Yeah. This is giving me anxiety.
Times it's going to matter.
Yeah, right. You're going to turn around and hit it. You lost by a second.
Yeah. Not even.
Cuz you were trying to play it cool.
That was a That was a close match. I That I don't know if it was closer.
That's what I like to see. I want it to come down to like 10 seconds to 5 seconds. Um,
of course they don't know. Well, they might feel it, right? Like, oh, I'm feeling I'm coming up on that that hard stop. But,
so since uh Keith was a high seed, he chose position or a challenge. Now, we're moving to Keith again since he lost. Right.
Right.
So, he's going to do challenge or position.
Yeah.
H No one keeps No one keys. No one. No one.
You can't. Yeah,
he always keeps guessing. Uh, I feel like he actually might be I don't care. Give me
just Yeah,
he'll just defer. What do you want to do?
Yeah, actually choose the position to uh
Oh, keep going. Um yeah, if you folks uh are just tuning in, Stern Pro Circuit Finals, uh these players, 32 players from around the world competing for over 30 or I don't want to say over who cares. Uh over $30,000 worth of cash and prizes. That includes What does that include?
That includes a pro new Stern pro game.
Oh my goodness gracious. Yeah. We give you a key and then you get to show up at the factory and open a special door and there's a genie in there and then you say the game you want and it just nods at you.
The funny thing is he's not lying about the key at least. There's a gold key that you will be
and by genie I mean the pinball machine genie.
That's good. I thought you were going to just say like as in Gary.
As in Gary keep them in a box.
Big puffy pants. Wind blowing everywhere.
It's like a very chilled to keep them fresh.
Oh my goodness.
These would be cooler at Stern. I'm always like, it's so hot in here. But
dude, my office is like an oven.
Yeah.
I'm next to all the electrical boxes. Spraying my brain.
There's a lot of those.
All right. So, we're already jumping in to uh
Looks like demo dog is what we're going for.
I always can hear the call out. That's when you know call out's good is that you in your head.
Demod dog.
Demo dog. All right, getting some control there. Nails the D. Just It's like window shopping.
Yep. A
little bit of this. It's like cooking. Look, sprinkling your 57 spices around.
Ah, someone someone is ripping their hair out on the inaccuracy of something.
That's called a call back.
All right. Mrs. Gets the free G. Gets a spot from the D. One more letter. Spots it. Can you in theory just shoot that saucer all that?
Apparently.
And now he just Well, he needs to shoot these.
Oh, get No, he's got to go right up the left of center shot.
Yeah, which is odd. You never shoot for it, so it's hard to shoot those.
Can you back it?
No.
Oh, good.
Surely not. Right.
All right, Neil. What do you got, buddy? Good pass.
Yeah, nice pass.
Rattle.
I would I mean, that felt clean enough that I would have turned around. There you go.
There it is. Yeah. It's interesting. the top down view. I I never knew. So, there's like a target back there and that's what I wasn't sure if it was another roll under gate.
Roll under gate. Sure.
Because from the front you only see that billboard thing.
I love the left orbit to ramp shot in this game. Just feels so nice.
Yeah. Yeah. It it it reminds me like Yeah. The the ones that go up the ramp. It's a lot like um James.
Yep.
Uh-oh. Keith just put a hoodie on. I think someone yelled at him to put some stern merch on.
Yeah.
All right. 1 minute and 13 seconds is time to beat. Can he do it?
Cool design on the back there.
Has he even hit start yet? Okay. I think I don't care.
Details.
All right. Here you go. All right. He's right in it. And
yeah, not worn about nothing. I guess he
got the E. Excellent. What's nice about shooting over there is if you missed the saucer, you still get something,
right?
Oh man, it actually went through the center shot without giving him a letter.
That's brutal.
Skill. All right.
Oh, you got them both. Let's go.
Weird. Yeah. So, Keith, his problem is that he only knows how to shoot shots.
Yeah, he doesn't know how to miss and hit a target.
Of course, again, shoot the left thingy.
Saucer all day.
All right, there you go. All right, two more.
Oh, yeah. He just he can't miss.
Can we just start total isolation?
Close your eyes, my dude.
Another saucer shot. No,
I see what he's going for, though.
Tempempted.
All right,
10 seconds on the clockish.
Dead bounce.
Good bounce.
Nails the right ramp cuz he's the best.
He's so frustrated. He's giving up. He just gave up.
He's 10 seconds left.
He just gave He almost Yeah, he gave up. You might be able to do it.
He came up. What a bummer.
He would have He might have actually had this. It's still not Now he's out. Okay.
No, he's like I He knows himself.
Yeah, that's fair.
And he's like, I'm only going to shoot the right. I I don't I don't want to shoot the L.
Keith Ellen, he can't mess up and that is to his detriment.
Isn't that the case? There's There's modes. What? Titanosaurus.
Oh, yeah.
Right. that it's like how many times can I hit the right ramp and you know miss that that target.
That that's my uh gosh what was it? AC/DC the Thunder Struck. That's my favorite mode to play because like when that game first came out I sucked at pinball and so I was being rewarded for missing everything and that just felt really cool.
And then there's Scars.
Oh yeah,
my favorite mode.
Boom boom
that's like oh you missed let me hurt you. Thanks, Pinball.
If you're in a multiball, jokes's on you.
You want to stack this mode?
Oh, sorry. It's on the easy shot that also stacks with a multiball shot. Um,
get wrecked.
Silly you.
Oh, man. Yeah. Jaws, you work on Jaws, too?
I did work on Jaws as well.
Um, outside of Jaws and D and D, have you helped on anything else?
No, so far it's just been those two. Not even not even as a little sprinkle in. I think in terms of new people that worked on the most games the quickest has been Joshua Henderson.
Oh yeah, he that kid's jumping in.
Yeah, he he touched Rush first.
Yeah.
And then went to John Wick.
Okay.
And then uh X-Men and then King Kong.
Yep.
He's everywhere.
And then who knows where he is now.
Yeah.
He knows where I am
floating in outer space
around. But yeah. So
all right. We have moved the rig to oh the middle of the room. All right. So, we're going to fill a little here. Um, again, this is a best of 11 for each round. So, two players going headtohead. You're chasing time, not necessarily score. It's all objective based. Um, out of that 11 uh games you're going to play, you need six of those 11 to progress on to the next round. So, um, the first round we saw Travis Fury versus Bowen Kerins, and Bowen took six right off the rip. Um, and this battle here between Neil and Keith looks like it's going to be a little closer.
Maybe. Did you We see what the uh stack I I don't I I didn't pay attention if they listed that.
Jaws.
Sounds like we're going to Jaws.
Who said that?
Andy said that.
Oh, thanks, Andy.
Oh, well,
did you know Andy lives?
I think he just came over and said that with no the rig is coming. It's just like, "And I'm going to go to jail."
Oh, we're Keith is being brought to Kong.
You like Jess?
Kong.
King Kong. Yeah.
To Kong.
Like Keith to a Kong.
I know he's pretty good at that game. Maybe. I think he knows a thing or Kong.
I don't think I've ever seen him play it.
No, I haven't.
A conversation Keith and I had very early on when I first started designing, he goes, "You're going to realize that once you're done with a game and it's out in the world, you don't want to play it for months. You don't want to see it. you don't want to be anywhere around it. And that you kind of get that vibe, right? Cuz you've like pulled your hair out over this thing. And then that time when you're on the line making sure it's going down the line and everything's perfect, like you're ready for a break from this thing. But it's nice to revisit him to figure out what's going on.
Yeah. Apparently he said he decided it's time.
This is it.
Revisit Jaws. I mean Icon.
He's going to start the pit.
All right. Scale good control. Now again, this is shooting that magnet area, those targets.
I don't think he cares about time.
And it's
Why did he upper flip?
Yeah, he knows what he's doing.
I'm not going to Didn't he upper flip? He's
He did. He did upper flip. I was wondering why he used the upper flip.
Well, maybe he knows that the uh that speed will drain him.
That's her.
Throw me out of there. Oh, man. He's just missing those
postage.
There we go. There you go.
I hope he knows this is on hard. That's another thing about being so knowledgeable at that game is when it's treated differently in any way, it really throws you off.
Yeah.
The slings are not hooking him up like they were hooking up other players.
Honestly, did did do these slings know their maker?
Who you are? Yeah, right. Obey me.
Yeah, he has a little button in his pocket.
I was going to say I don't think they were watching uh him type in his code. Oh,
what a flipping save that. Did he get it?
He just
He knows. He knows.
He spent like three seconds turning around.
To be fair, I wasn't sure if he did start it or not.
That's fair. Yeah,
there was still a light show going on.
I picture he has a Rick in his ear actually just telling and Rick is like in on like
left flip right right flipper
guy in a chair.
Yeah. So for this line, uh let's see here. Shoot the stand up target. Okay. Again. Yeah.
He's like attacking in real time.
Did you get my new flipper coach? Okay. It's left, left, right, right, left.
Rick Nagel is awesome, man.
Yeah. Oh, man. I I am so lucky that I got to work with him on my first project. Both of these guys. But like, yeah, Rick, Rick is uh pretty good.
Heck yeah.
And he's one of those guys that he shows up to the office less than I do. And I'm from
It is a rare It is a rare treat to see him show up. Does he live in Chicago?
He lives in Chicago somewhere. So they said
it's great.
He ain't getting offense out.
Yeah, he he walks in, walks out, and that's how you know he's that good.
Yep.
All right, here we go.
Not disappointing. All right, Neil, what do you got, buddy? We're going to shoot that magnet a handful of times. There's one. Beautiful. Get it off that freaking magnet, though.
Yeah, that was the skill shot right there.
Oh, man. These are the shots here.
That's not the shot, but
he's going to plunge right into it. Watch this. I got my money on this plunge right here. What the heck are you doing, bro?
Get it faster.
Faster, harder, stronger,
more energy.
Whoa. Are is he trying to shed?
Yeah, he's alley pass him. Get that ball over there. You can't backhand it, I guess. Nice drop catch.
Okay,
four more hits to lights.
Looks like he's got the
nice tip over.
All right, next one more. Oh, the slingshot hooks him up. Now, this is where Keith would be walking away.
Yep.
All right. It's going to be close. 10 more seconds.
Oh. Oh, he's got 7 seconds left. Can he do it?
It's going to be close. He's got to turn around and hit, too.
Six.
Oh, that was it. One away. Just hit it. There you go.
7 seconds. Oh my goodness gracious. That's what makes this exciting because like the objective is simple to understand. All you're doing now is watching someone try to do the thing.
Do the thing.
No, you don't care like if your bonus multiplier is over the freaking who cares like this.
Yeah. Although I need to watch some more competitive like true competitive pinball because that is also like Yeah. We're we're really understanding how to start pit, you know what I mean? But uh how do you start the 2x playfield multiplier, you know, or uh how do you you know, there's so many objectives in these modern games.
Does it have a 2x play field?
Yeah. And and it's lit based off of the inlanes because Keith likes to use every part of the playfield to to show information. Um but uh yeah, so there's there's just there each game can would have 30 objectives on it if you know if you'd want to like you could like light to X playfield could be an objective.
Oh yeah.
Right. So, what I'm saying is that it's nice. It's It's great that we're learning so like integrally this singular thing, but the good thing about regular challenge play is that you do uh maybe see a wider breath of the game.
Yeah, totally.
So, um yeah, as long as you're just open-minded and and just being like just because they're not playing it the way you're used to playing it doesn't mean that they're doing it wrong. Yep.
You could be learning something. So, I'm just going to going to say that right there. Uh, that's all I got to say about that.
Play how you want to play. All right, we're already Wow, they are wasting no time.
It's all about fast. We got got to go fast. All right, it looks like we're doing maybe uh the hardwired one. It looks like he's shooting everything.
So, shoot every shot once and then shoot the scoop and then you were G to G.
Yep.
And look at this. It's a It's two to one right now. I'm loving how close these battles are. Okay. It looks like it is those little white inserts. Tells you the progress.
Oh, okay. So, he needs the orbits now.
Yeah. Nice. He learned something new. See? Really excited. Oh, nice tip over. Good read.
Good shot. All right. He just needs that left orbit. I don't know if he needs that super far left shot.
I don't think so.
Okay, there you go. The scoop is blinking for hard wire.
Yeah.
And is it going to bounce in? Oh. Oh. Nice. Oh, that would have been so clean.
Get and Okay, here we go. Here we go. And
that is so late. That is so late on the flipper.
It is. It's almost like an alley.
Get in there.
Ah, on the fly sometimes is easier than
I'd be I'd back flip it right here.
Shoot the orbit. Let it go all the way around. Dead flip into it.
She said dead flip. She did it. She said it.
Dead flip.
All right. Thanks.
All right. 1 minute 24 seconds. Not bad. A lot of that time was gobbled up by trying to shoot that scoop, but it is very far over like tip of the flipper shot.
I imagine that's a pretty good time shooting every shot in the game once and then having to shoot the scoop.
But uh yeah, that my favorite thing on Metallica is to do is a full plunge dead flip the ball in the scoop.
Oh, I love it.
Oh, it almost do it on this one though. That's always sad.
You know, there's also um for big tournaments like this, sometimes they like to mess with the games a little bit. So there's a good chance they might have like drooped the flipper a little bit. Stop that from happening.
Although like the new Metallica is a slightly different geometry than the old one. So it could just be not lined up anymore.
But all right, here we go. Uh Sleepy Keith walking around.
A whole Sleepy.
All right, you got this, my guy. A minute 24.
Yeah. Choosing the song because that matters.
You got to be in the right mindset. I I do I always say it's like you got to choose a song that matters. Iron Man got to choose a song that matters.
One time.
Okay, that is not one of the shots.
Not quite.
That's also not one of the shots.
Now he's in the standups. Where's Demad Dog when he needs it?
All right, there's a left orbit. So he needs the grave marker. Left ramp, right ramp, right orbit.
Uh, okay.
Right out. No, that's
that's not one of them. Could you imagine first one to get right out?
I mean, trying to drain on purpose is actually a pain in the butt.
Oh, yeah. [Laughter]
I don't believe you.
Uh-huh.
All right. Still has a a a solid 40 seconds left.
All right. Good shot. Grave marker. Nope.
Made that grave marker.
Back in then.
Yeah. Back in the grave marker.
Okay. He just needs grave marker and then scooch.
All right, you can do it. It'll be close. A little early.
You love that 72 targeting it.
Leave it alone. Leave it alone. Oh, look at his face. He's like,
there it is.
This thing over.
All right, he still can do it if he does it quick. First try.
Oh my god. Get over there. Oh my god.
10 seconds. Hey, that was a fast teeth right there.
All right, man. Two to two. We are keeping it close.
Okay, I'm here for it. First to six. That's the win.
I was at two two their first round. I guess they had had more time in between games.
I feel like they're starting the games before the cameras even get to
That's also true. Yeah.
Woo. That was fast, man. I want to play some Metallica now.
Let's do it.
Yeah. Right.
Camera, can you follow us to the set up some sort of end?
We can split flip. I'll be your broken arm.
Oh, yeah.
My wing.
Ah, sorry to mention it.
It's all right. Um, so yeah, if you're unfamiliar with this tournament style, this is our take on the Shoopies, which was the ST Stern heads up pinball invitational. It's objective based. It's like a pin golf, I guess, is the closest thing to this, where we pick an objective, and it's your goal to get to that as quick as possible. Um, certain takes on this are timed. Certain takes on this are how many balls did it take to get to it. Um, we're doing a timed format. All the games are on 10 balls, so you can drain as much as you want. But if you get to 10 balls and you don't make it,
DNF. Did not
finish.
Did not file.
Did not finalize. Did not
figure it out.
Don't know.
Don't know, fam.
Yeah.
Don't know, fam.
Uh,
fam got me. Um,
but yeah. And if you uh reach 10 minutes, it's also Oh.
disqualified there.
I hope we don't reach 10 minutes.
Yeah. And now I'm realizing I'm like, I don't think we're going to hit the 10-minute mark, but we still have yet to see Jurassic Park.
Oh, we're not already in a game. Here we go.
All right, John. Quick
playing some Wait, looks like is Neil going to start us off?
Start one of the multiballs, but which one?
Well, we haven't seen Deconsecrated desecrated.
Yeah. Okay, there's uh
it might have been a faulty flip. He's in the dance club now. That didn't matter. That's also one of
And that's for excommunicado. Extin Minimoto.
Extra avocado.
That's good.
We're gonna get fired.
Watch. She's actually trying to get caught.
Start desecration. I think it's called deconsecrated.
See, if I say if I say it enough, I will uh convert everybody.
Desecration.
So, he just has to hit that center ramp like, you know, a number of times. It could be one. It could be five. I don't think they're ever going to start desecrated multiball. It doesn't exist.
That's a conrated.
Oh, get up there. Wow.
On the fly.
That was awesome.
Ramp on the fly is not easy, man.
Get up, Dad. Get up, Dad.
Okay.
Hey. Okay. One mile started up. Step right up.
All right.
All right. Right.
A minute and some change.
Easy.
A minute on the Oh,
so close to being solid on the minute. You see, that's what I want to see here. Although 96. He should he should have waited for the minute to try to hit that extra objective. Can we get like an extra point for like hitting things on uh you know
on the solid
whole numbers
whole numbers maybe whole numbers are a bust.
All right. So solid multiball deconsecrated. And how did he get that?
He did that by shooting the Winston Cap
which then lit the center ramp for locks. And on the pro you just have to repeat the center ramp.
Shoot it. That's
premium. It actually locks the ball.
Oh.
Either way, you're hitting that center ramp. So,
Oh, yeah. The premium locks it to dump them into the nightclub.
Yeah. Dance dance party.
That's where the de the dead decon or mitigated.
Decommunicated.
Oh, decon's created.
Oh, yeah. We did it.
Thank you, production.
This This game does have the craziest names. Excomunicado. And I'm like, that's not a word.
Commun X avocado.
Excavocado. All right, Keith, you got a minute.
Minute to win it.
We're Oh, yeah.
You imagine minutes to win it. Just shows up. Pull the football.
Okay, here we go.
All right, Keith is on his way.
He didn't even check to see if the timer was
We got the loop pass right there. A little bit. It was a little bit of loop pass.
All right, hit the captive.
All right. I love the ski pass on this game.
Nice.
Excellent drain.
So, you hit the captive ball until it spells Winston. Yeah, you got to So, it already spots you. Um,
three, I think.
Yeah.
So, he's got two more hits.
There we go. One more.
One more. And then the middle ramp is ready for
a whole bunch of
hitting the heck out of.
All right. Nice.
A dead. It was a dead a
His face was very telling like, uh, I did that.
Oh, jeez. Pets, come on. Give it to him.
Jeez.
Can you backhand it? No. Not with these shallow flippers. Get
He's almost at start car. There we go.
Okay, you've got five seconds. Okay.
Okay.
Okay. Okay. On the fly.
I can't really do it.
He's about to turn around.
He might feel it now. Oh, there it is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
You know what's funny? I don't know if you caught that, but it looked like he looked at the game next to him to catch the reflection of the timer.
Oh, maybe it could also be the uh camera rig.
Oh, true.
Oh, yeah. It was distracting him.
Yeah,
he'll complain about that.
He doesn't complain.
No, he he's amazing. Um, all right. Well, that one goes to Neil. So, we're 32.
Oh, man. Back and forth. Back to back. This is a a a a drastic difference than the the last round we saw which was like pretty heavy-handed on Bowen's side. This sort of like and we're going to see this as we get further on in some of the rounds. They're going to become real real close. Although I am nervous for the people that have gotten a buy because they're cold, right?
Yeah. Knowing these games is key. like knowing the plunge, knowing the flipper feed, the scoop feed, like all of that matters really a lot.
So I think I think the benefit goes to the people that are climbing the ladder versus uh sitting waiting for their turn.
Yeah. Although there is uh yeah, Mr. Graph.
Mr. Graph.
That's Dad Graph.
Uh Cad Graph,
the father of Sunraph. Neil Graph.
Tom Graph.
Tom. Oh, Dad Graph.
Dad Graph.
I thought you said CAD as in like CAD.
Cadraph. I don't know what I'm saying. Anyways, there are some people that have bias. I see Bowen over there. He might be watching uh you know, intently seeing.
It looks like he's pretending to play a piano.
Who? Oh, I I said Bowen.
Oh, I thought you said Bowen,
right? These people.
Uh Bowen looks like he's studying rule sheets right now,
maybe. But I'm sure he's also very closely paying attention to things like feed.
All right, back to the wrong. And that's probably why we're broadcast up there so people can see how
NYC. That's a new one. All right. So, to start a NYC event,
you have to shoot those little yellow climb arrows. So, right now we have it on the right inner orbit, the the side
center shot,
left orbit thingy, which is the technical term.
All right, here we go. So, he's going to shoot the center spinner shot.
Oh, nails it.
Just kidding.
Well, the other center spinner shot.
Yeah, that's what I meant. There you go.
Okay. Okay.
And going to feed that side flipper.
Yeah.
Yep. That will not do it. That will not do.
That's just a shot.
Just a regular old shot. I wonder if there's a way to spot climb letters.
Oh, that was a fun little tickle flip.
Little tip tip over.
All right, he's going to shoot for He wants that kick kicking target to send it back to the flipper.
Ah, too late there.
Just kidding.
He's like, "This isn't how I set this game up, guys."
All right. Gets it over and uh nails the target.
Okay. And one time. Yeah. Oh, he needed the
peppered. Okay, so it's even earlier.
He He shot the ramp, so he wanted the little swoopy whoop underneath the ramp.
Yep. Feed it. Tasty. There it is. So now he just has to shoot
there. He got that and the left.
Three more or two more?
Yeah, you have to do three sets of three.
Yeah, three sets of three.
So actually
So his next one's on the far left. Does this reset?
You know, I can't say. Uh,
no.
Good.
Oh, the center's lit, too. Was that lit before?
I don't recall.
Well, we are here for it. We might pull Keith aside. This plan is game.
It's the minutiae of the thing, you know, cuz like normal game, you're not just going
Oh, there you go. There you go.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So, you need the center spinner and Oh, center ramp. Center spinner and then the little swoopy whoop. Get it around. Feed the side flipper again.
Yeah, this is it. Shoot the
Oh, I almost nailed it.
Is interesting. One of the modes will help you with this because it keeps the ball up there.
Oh, really?
Yeah, there it is. Okay, now he just has to
left orbit.
It should be.
Okay, I guess you have to hit it twice.
That was thing I expected it to be already lit, but I guess you have to shoot here. Bam.
Excellent work. and leisurely uh starts it
2 minutes
you know there was some game knowledge there was some I know how to feed the side flipper knowledge
because
yeah he was orchestrating like knowing that the next shot's going to be from here needing to shoot this one first before the other one
cuz that's one of the takes on this game is that it's it is when you walk up to it it's tough to tell which shots feed which other shots um because it sometimes does it and sometimes it doesn't. It's uh there's wire forms everywhere. It's a really interesting game to step up to and and that's why I said this was my favorite game to shoot is a Whitewood. Um cuz you you you just all you had were shots.
Heck yeah. All right. 2 minutes and 5 seconds is the time to beat.
All right.
See if uh Neil can take this or if it's going to tie it up again.
I don't know. He might go to 10. This might be the 10.
The 10 the 10 round game.
All right. So, where do we start? It looks like it is completely random. These shots are not the same.
Yeah. So, it's left orbit, far left ramp, and then the main center side ramp.
Yeah.
All right, Neil. Getting off to a slow start, but these shots are comboable. You know, the chain is
nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.
Like I said,
center into the baby flipper.
Smart. So, he knows this game.
All right, so next
the right orbit thingies. the right orbit. You can see the insert's hidden by the wire form there. There you go.
Yeah.
So, that was not I don't think that was the the right side shot there.
So, center ramp, center spinner.
Easy
into left ramp right there.
Yeah. Oh, luckily
into the crossover. Oh, that would have been the perfect combo. Holy.
The game really set him up for that there. I wonder if there is if it's completely random or if there is some logic on which arrow lights next.
Get up.
Nice save.
Hey, get it up there. That'll feed the upper right flipper which will feed that shot right.
That is such a tight tough shot.
Come on.
I do wonder. It's like you is there a way to spot these?
Oh, instead of actually having to hit it,
right?
Yeah.
But I don't think there is or we would have seen it. Oh, it's coming in a little short.
Okay, another shot here.
Uh, no, not quite.
Beautiful ramp shot though.
Oh, such a fun ramp shot.
Now, I wonder if Neil is the kind to uh do you think he's going to play it out fully or do you think he'll recognize if the time has been spent like,
you know, there is some some it's it's smart to play the game, you know, like
take the 10 minutes and start the the stand up target. I mean truly it like if you know you've lost just figure out how to get comfortable with the game cuz you're probably going to come back to this.
There it is.
And okay, he just wanted to win that shot. You hit every other shot in the game.
You proved yourself, buddy. We got it.
All right.
All right. We're tied again.
Yeah. Yeah. I I'm It's It's been interesting to see which games and and objectives these players have chosen. So each player needs three wins to win.
Oh yeah, yep. Yep.
First to six,
right?
Takes takes the crown
for the round.
Getting exhausted just just watching this. It's
It's a lot a lot of pinball. Fast.
It's a lot of fast pinball.
Fast pinball.
Internet, thank you for uh hanging out with us on this Wednesday morning on the eve of Chicago Pinball Expo. Hopefully, you're all coming to jam on all the fun pinball machines that are going to be there. Uh see all the cool people. You get to take a picture with Keith Ellen. Maybe. I don't know.
If he shows up, we'll see if he's there. Um yeah, dude. It It's It's going to be fun. And shout out to Mountain Dew Pinball IPA. Uh Elizabeth Geeseki, thanks for uh tag teaming this with me.
Yeah, this has been fun. I mean, I was nervous there for a second. I'm like, Jack, oh, I'm going to have to carry the conversation.
I don't know. So,
he can't speak to save his life.
No, I'm sorry.
No, I'm joking. This has been easy.
All right,
just like start car multiball. Another I would say easier objective.
Wait, why did he shoot the
spots left orbit spots uh car?
So, you don't have to hit the car.
Well, you know, uh a dealer's choice, I suppose. Yeah.
Wild.
Yeah.
I
I think it's faster though to get the car. shooting it back.
It comes right back.
Tough to tell. Easy. Oh,
holy moly. Was that 28?
All right. Broke 30. You've seen it here. That might be the That All right. All right.
I'm going to What? What was that? Start car multiball.
Yep. Okay. Good point. 28.5.
I want this to be the the I'm going to put an asterisk next to that as the quickest completion objective we've seen so far.
I'm going to write down the time. I mean,
2854. Yeah.
Is it funny? I was like, you're using your wrong hand when you grab that pen. But I'm like,
you need to learn You need to learn lefty.
Did you have to?
I No, I just didn't do any work.
Okay.
I did have to type a lot with one hand and then using the mouse with the left hand was a nightmare.
Oh.
All right. Keith looks happy. What's going on?
Never seen that.
He smiled. All right, here we go.
All right. Interesting to see if he does go for the straightforward route.
Yeah,
the orbit route.
So, Neil, right off the rip, he did a like a an interesting loop catch to get right into it. All right, here we go.
And
loop pass into the scoop anyway, but it doesn't skill shot, so it doesn't.
All right, so we're going to get the car. Excellent work.
I could see why the left orbit would be a better way to get him now. Now that I Now that I'm getting He's already like at 18 seconds. 20.
Oh my gosh. But I love that so much.
That was pretty. Yeah, that's I think you're done there, Mr. Mr. E.
The the I I don't care. His his loot catching was so much.
It was pretty bonkers.
All righty then.
All right.
He says that's enough of that.
Wait, so is that 53 then? [Music] Boy, oh boy. Tough time to beat 28.5.
Yeah,
that's
that's that's like near perfect.
Yeah, that's like the size of a women's basketball.
Wait, what?
You look it up. 20 28.5
28.5.
I know this. I know things.
Like this. This
I play pinball and I know things.
The size of the balls different.
Yeah. Yeah. for men's. For women's or little baby girl hands need smaller basketballs.
They're this big.
They're size of grapefruits. Uh softballs. Same same actually.
Okay. That's why I had no idea. That's interesting.
Yeah. It's really weird playing with a men's ball after like playing women's all my life and being like, "Oh,
what is it?"
Yeah. It feels like I'm carrying the world over.
That's strange.
Suddenly I can't like palm a ball
with like the the knowledge.
Yeah. 57 spices and 28.5. I I should look that up. Uh, hey Siri, how many spices are in Hines?
The average size of a woman's basketball.
57. I got it.
57 unique urban devices.
Keith says, "FYI, skill shots don't advance pit." I think he might have sent that as in a I just learned.
Oh, I'm going to send a message to Rick. Hey.
Hey, Rick. What's up with this?
Make it happen now.
I mean, it I I actually love being uh like told to fix like little things that feel like it's a big change.
Okay.
Like it it's a big impact but a small lift, you know? So, it's like, oh, you need me to Yeah. Yeah, I can do that for you. Bug fixing is actually my favorite. It feels like it. Yeah, it feels like
when you have an objective and you're diagnosing it and when it works, it's like a quick dopamine hit like.
Now, my least favorite thing is trying to uh reproduce bugs.
Oh, sure.
That is a a skill in its own,
you know. And I have the wildest bug on Jaws. It it was a month before release, so it was like we got to fix this.
Speaking of Jaws,
yeah. No, there was this crash bug that was happening.
Oh no. And I could reproduce, but in a very weird way.
Oh no.
It was like, okay, it's got to be multiplayer. Player one has qualified bounty hunt, but not started.
How do you How do you recreate? That's wrong.
Yeah, it was it was very, very strange. And after recreating it, I had no idea what was causing the bug. Usually that's the key. Didn't help this time around. Anyways, starting feeding frenzy. You're wanting to clear the standup targets three times because this is on hard mode. Stand up targets being the yellow ones that are scattered around the playfield. The shark tower.
Oh, the shark towers. Yeah. Okay.
Nice speed jump.
And you you don't have to hit the ones that are lit, per se.
You want the ones that are lit. You have to shoot the lit ones,
which he is. Uh
again, we're seeing the the curse of Elwood. I can't miss.
You see, he start this was going to be one of the objectives was to start bounty on multiball. He would have been on his way for that.
Oh no. He looking for He
I This
He missed it by like to try to start. I'm not judging.
I shouldn't be shouting. You should probably hear me.
No, I I love There's no shot. They're pumping us into the room. They wouldn't be doing
too good at doing.
You're too good at your game. He's about to start the multi.
Oh my god.
Which is another objective, by the way.
So, he's first, which means he can't bail on this. He has to put up a number. Oh god, the fin.
Oh, now the Finn's blocking the
Now if you start multiball, you can't make progress on feeding.
Really? No,
you better.
I know things. I play pinball and I know things.
Finds it. That's that roving fin might be blocking his shots.
And now he has multiball lit. So if he shoots a shot, that's very detrimental.
Is he going to have to drain?
Yeah,
he's called tilt. tilt out. Yeah, that's what I was.
But still, that's time lost.
And we started ball gone,
dude. That that right shark tower target is like the bane of his
know that he's supposed to.
Can he hit the target still for credit?
No.
Oh, no.
I'm not saying that he doesn't. He doesn't.
We're not laughing with you at you, Keith. I mean, with you, Keith. Um,
yeah, he's hitting it and it's not doing it.
He's actually No. Okay, so if I was Pete and this is happening, I'm thinking I'm practicing this game right now. I I'm already knowing I'm not getting Pete in front faster than we are.
This is I'm practicing this game. I'm finding where the shots are.
So, he has to do that one more time.
That's what that was. Okay. He's not He knows that he can't make progress.
Yeah, this is a loss. So, he's just making sure he's getting acclimated with
exactly what he's doing.
Probably.
I mean, I believe it.
Probably.
I love that little
finding the shot.
A little baby flip.
Look at this. He's just enjoying his game at this point.
He's like, "All right,
boy. Do I love Jaws Jaws Jaws?"
He's probably thinking like, "All right, got to find my feeds from Side Flipper.
Got to start feeding frenzy."
Floated his hands over it. 3 minutes and six seconds.
Hey, feeding f is awkwardly difficult to start.
Well, here's the thing. The It's not to say this also won't happen to Neil.
Uh yeah, but I would Neil, unless he already lost and is like at the 3 minute 30.
Yeah.
Uh I would expect him to tilt out of a multi- wall.
Is this correct? I thought he was at five. Whatever.
Oh, true. Well, no. Productions got him. All right, so 3 minutes 6 seconds.
All right, start feeding frenzy.
I bet he gets this in 1 minute 20 seconds.
Oh, we're putting that over under 120.
Uh uh I'll do Yeah, I'll do under. Of course, man. He's he's really good at hitting shots.
Yep. There we go.
Oh, that quick shot was in his way there.
Still in his way.
Needs to time out the quick shot. There we go. That's an interesting That that's so interesting.
Truly playing the game differently cuz quick shots are like one of the most valuable things in the game.
Gives you to like train your brain to ignore things that are valuable
because they're blocking progress. Yeah. All right, two more clears will do it.
Can't backhand the left. At least not on that shot.
Okay. Oh, he got the hard one or hard
the pawn shot.
All right.
Oh, yeah. You got the Yeah.
Starts nice one.
You know what's funny is like the the shots are right there, but those are like most of them are half inch targets which are like very difficult to shoot.
Yeah. when they're that far up like that.
It's true. Except for the the center ramp one. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Can you hit it from the top? Doesn't doesn't think about it. You probably can't.
All right. We're at the 120 mark.
There we go. He needs one more clear. Good snipe. The two shots.
And he just has to hit the targets, right? There's no final shot.
Yeah. Right. It automatically starts. And he's got double the double the time. Like he's he's got more than enough time to hit that last target.
Man, I do wonder if Keith didn't start the multiball. And
if that wouldn't have done it,
it might have
cuz he was nailing it when he was in multiball.
Yeah, he's really finding that shot. And there we go.
There it is.
That's all you needed.
Casual saunter. Well done, Neil. That puts us at five to three. Okay. O, so Neil just needs one more
wipe out feeding frenzy, which is an interesting uh mode in that it is awarded during bonus,
which is something that was more common in days past.
Y
like,
oh, Dracula.
Dracula,
Ramstrokers Dracula.
Um, Twilight Zone.
Twilight Zone.
Um, other games.
That's all I had to that's all I had. Uh
games where like your your scoring during game play was like
Yeah.
But your bonus is like
Oh, Indiana Jones, I think.
Uh yeah,
some of them like that video.
Uh Judge Dread was a big uh big big bonus game.
Oh, I I never got into that game. Like I
It also had like once per game you could double your bonus, but it was like a very dangerous shot, but if you did that, your score was unobtainable to anyone else. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Double bonus where double bonus just means so much. Forget about 11x or whatever. Double bonus.
Double.
Uh, I guess you could say that. Uh, this game
Oh, yeah. Demolition Man.
Demolition Man kind of has the double bonus feature
built in to the triggers. Are you a trigger man or a
I trigger all day. Yeah, me too.
I feel like it gives you First off, it's unique, but yeah, you it feels cool.
Yeah, it just feels like I'm driving a ship. And also like nudging the game was never easier
grip. And oh, those are pretty hot swappable to put on any pinball machine you want.
Really?
Yeah.
All right. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. It's just it's just a uh
little little thing. Um All right. So, do we still have some round ones?
Uh quite a few.
What the heck? Yeah, they it might just be that people might be waiting for other games and they're really wanting a certain they're like I want to play X-Men. I want to do Sentinel Multiplay, right? So, and they're not they're Yeah, maybe Jaws is open or whatever. I'm just reading off the page. I'm not not picking out. Yeah, I really want to play I No one wants to play Jaws. Sentinel multiball was one of those like I I really love the Metallica style like hit it until it starts something and that's what we wanted to do with the the head there. It was like that's the big dum dum shot in the middle. I want anyone walking up to that game to be able to play multiball right off the rip.
Yeah, dumb dumb shots should always start something.
Yeah. I mean, multiball is like for people that don't know pinball, that's like the oh my gosh, what's happening?
That's a good point. And uh that when someone that doesn't know pinball gets a multiball, that changes their perspective on pinball.
Oh man, I'm rethinking my next design a little bit. I'm like, "Ah, you're right. You're right." Yeah.
Get some stokes.
That is Do you have that with, you know, like designing a game and people are talking about their preferences and things and you're like kind of racking your brain, you're like, "Do am I doing that or like does that kind of affect your
a little bit?" Yeah. But again, it's all, you know, the the play field speaks to you. Um, obviously working with your team to understand like what we all want out of the machine, but there is that understanding of you have to cater to people that just have no clue what's going on, and you want to make sure they're having fun, too.
Yeah. That's the That's the tricky part is trying to get it
Yeah. the balance. You have to deal with Keith Ellen and then you got to deal with my six-year-old, you know, like and they both need to have fun on the game,
right? Yeah. You know, it's always interesting to me when I see someone a new player that doesn't like multiball.
Oh, yeah.
There are those people and a lot of
they're in the way.
Well, it's just it's like it's a panic thing and they're like, I didn't like that. It was anxietyinducing. I I there was too much going on. I'm like, that is
very interesting. Like I, you know, I want to I want to let's talk about that. You know,
I love being in multiball,
right? Like that is the goal. Like for other people, like my my mom, shout out. Hi, mom.
Hi, mom.
Uh is that she if she gets into multiball, that is winning the game. It's like, you know, some people it's like
make your own make your own objectives. I love that
that too. Oh my gosh. Yes. There was a time when, you know, I I was in an arcade that had tons of games, 80 games, right? And uh it was during you know like COVID so like there was no one playing but I I was like testing the game so I had like my end but like me and another guy it was like
you want to play Attack from Mars but uh only do Martian multiball
you know Martian only.
Yeah,
right. or uh I'm trying to think of the other like we we just tried to find the most ridiculous things to do in
that that's how I taught myself how to get better is I made games out of flipper control be like
uh I'm going to like if you and I stepped up to a game I'm going to get a ball on a flipper and I'm going to post pass as many times as I can in one go and I'm going to drain and then you have to try to beat that and we go back and forth
totally I had that it was tap passing on par passing how I've done that was the first time I met Keith Elwen, I don't know if you know, uh, but it was at a a district 82 tournament. It was the first time I met him and we were, uh, playing on a tournament game on Dolly, and after our game, I was like, "Hey, Keith, you want to um split flipper, but tap passes only."
Oh, there you go. Just back and forth at each other.
Yeah. And whoever lost the ball first. I won't say who won.
That's incredible.
Uh, but it was Keith. Uh, speaking of Keith Ellen, the very first time I ever played in a tournament against him was like over a decade ago and I knew of him and I I played in this tournament with my friends and I came back from fighting him
and my buddies are with me. They're like, "How'd it go?" And I'm like, "I lost to him by 10 points." They're like, "Oh my god." Like, you got that close to beating Keith Owen, but it was on NBA break.
Fast break. I was fast break. I was going to say that as a joke. Did I
I I didn't let them know what game, but it was fast break. We lost to him by 10. Only 10 points.
10 points, man.
Could you imagine saying 100 points?
Yeah. I mean, it probably was points. I don't think
Oh, man. That game is a a funny quirky uh game. Uh that's the only one where can happen.
Oh, I love that game. Speaking of another game where it's like you want to uh only do uh the combo things or whatever, like
let's let's only do the pop bumper feature thing. Yeah,
love that game.
We're slowly starting to fill the studio at internet. If you come to Storm for the tour, um we're we're like finding all of our old titles cuz for a while there, we didn't have like any of our games at the studio. It's really weird. But now we're like really starting to pack in like all of like Stern's older catalog, but we do have some of Gomez's games too like tucked away that I'm sure we'll bring out also.
Yeah. And fun fact with our uh our conference rooms are all named after solid state stern games
and we try to have those games in those rooms.
Yeah. So big game has a big game.
Yep. Then we got Cheetah which actually has like a starting pinball in it right now.
Okay.
Um but Flight 2000
Flight 2000 has Tanya's Flight 2000.
Um
and then there's a nineball in Big Game. Oh, and we're starting Chaos.
Oh, okay. Look. Oh no.
Oh, get that C. Get the C.
The C shot also is kind of difficult for me, I think. I Oh, what a
But not as hard as the O.
Not as hard as the O, but jeez. All right, that was it was Oh, what the backhand the C just for the little funs of fun of it.
All right, now we're going for H, which is the T-Rex.
Sometimes that can be hard. Get
I mean O, get the A.
All right, Benny, get the O.
Uh, that's fine. You keep your progress across balls, of course. So, if you were here earlier, we were discussing some of the hardest shots of Keith's games. And the shot that he has to make right now, we would probably consider one of the hardest shots that he's put on a pinball machine.
This is that far right orbit.
But I I appreciate it cuz if you make it any wider than the right ramp is even harder to hit. So, it it it's for a good reason.
Good ski Pat. Oh, he's trying to get it on the fly, which might actually be easier.
That was first a first. shot at the O and the S. Get it. Now I has to hit the stand up target,
which also is not an easy shot.
Oh no. Oh
holy moly.
All right. I would say the C is not as hard as he made it out to be.
It just nails the three hardest shots in the I think I think the S is harder than the C for one.
Okay.
You know, so to get nails the O combos into the S and then one shots the standard.
Beautiful. And the fact that he backhanded that C too was pretty pretty incredible. Yeah, you're right. You're right. That that was the beginning of the end for him in a good way.
All right. So, that that was an incredible time. Let's see what Neil can get up to. If Neil wins this round, internet, this here, this game is him eliminating Keith if he can beat 1 minute and 14 seconds.
But if he loses, he'll have choice on the next round. So, it will be in his favor.
Although, uh
I think his favor is to win.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So, he goes right hand. All right.
All right. What do you got with that C?
Good dead bounce.
Oh. Uh, yeah. We're feeling like a little little tight rattle. Oh, I thought that was going to bounce in there.
Nice.
Dead bounce.
All right. Excellent.
Okay. Free. You got this, bud. Oh,
from a trap.
Yeah, the backhand seems to be on the fly. Easy. You got the back hand.
All right. So, the H up the T-Rex ramp on the left.
The oddest shot in the game.
It Yes. Thank you.
Yeah.
All right. I mean, the easiest shot on me. Never mind. Uh, whatever.
Oh, now we need the A, which is the right ramp
can be tricky. I I do think the right ramp is easier from from the fly. I like shooting it from from a combo,
but Keith nailed it without thinking about it.
Yeah. Well, it was like he just willedled it up there.
Hey, good nudge.
Yeah, really good nudge. He gave a bump on that.
There's a a
I love
I wouldn't have used that upper flipper there. I think that's
Well, no. If you if you miss it, that's a center drain if you let it go.
Okay.
All right. Now, now the toughest shot in pinball.
Oh, get up there.
Still early.
All right. He's got 4 seconds left.
Could you imagine?
Oh, that's it. All right. So, he takes this one.
Wait. Well, you take your time here. Let's shoot that out. Get
He he saw it the second he that rejected him again. He's like,
I
It's being the O.
The easiest shot. Actually, I'll tell you how to hit the O. The easiest way to shoot the O
is to when it comes around that right orbit and you hold the flipper up
and it it just like repeats it, you like drop catch it.
I remember when that happened on the first live stream we did of that.
Everyone thought that that was supposed to happen. It's not designed to do that.
It's just some of the games that happen.
Most of the games I I most I play does that. Now, the problem though, to get that feed, you have to hit the O.
You have to Exactly.
So,
I was just going to say, wait, in order to get that or
Yeah. Yeah. Ironically, it is. It's really easy to get the O twice
if you need the double O.
Double. Yeah. Right there. O. Pause.
All right. We're rolling over to
Apparently, I'm backwards here.
Uh, well, we're not playing JS. Not playing Metallica.
Looks like we're going to Bond. Not playing D and D.
Tons of
fun would be a good one. I would do jetpack, I think. Okay.
Just because that's one that I I normally go for in my regular game.
Scoop to left orbit a couple of times.
Yeah.
And I kind of need the uh the uh luck factor a little bit so that um
Well, yeah, because it's the fidelity of the ejects that's the luck. Um, but I feel like I would, you know, if I'm playing against someone like Neil, I'm like, I need that luck.
Yeah, no doubt. You can see above Elizabeth's head the timer going down there on a Metallica.
Oh, reaching 30 seconds.
Had a solid 30 seconds there.
We just commentate on it on just the
Look at that timer. Right.
I'm sure he's doing something. I can't tell what it is. Uh, shout out to Mountain Dew. Thanks, Mountain Dew. Do the do.
Yeah.
Just just do it.
All right. Just
wait. That's a different
Just do it. That's good. Wait. Oh, no.
We're going to get sued. Um, so yeah, Stern Pro Circuit Finals, 32 players, 20 different events that culminated into everyone being here today. Um, and we are on X-Men.
Hey, I know some things about somebody that X-Men.
The uncanniest of X-Men. All right, so start Sentinel Multiball. This one is the uh one of the easier objectives I would say on these lists. Yes,
it just beat the absolute crap out of the Sentinel's head.
Yes,
that magnet in front of the Sentinel can screw that ball up a little bit as you saw there. It's not going to come back down clean.
One more. Two more.
We're almost there.
There you go. That's it. Turn around. Clap it.
37 seconds. I think it's six shots total to start the multiball.
That's pretty fast. This is going to be one of those that time. It It might come down to the how quickly can you hit that button,
get your hands on the timer there. Um, but that that was a pretty clean. He got some uh lucky uh magnet throws. Um, and then yeah, some nice back hands at that. I do like the uh the comic book feel.
Jeremy, th this game's freaking beautiful.
I love Jeremy just as a person. That guy.
Oh, he you can't have a serious conversation.
That was what I was going to say. I'm like, it can be like a gate review and he's like and he does this pause where he's like, "Yeah, so and you think he's going to say something thoughtful or
or profound or
or serious?"
No, it's like a fart joke.
It is. Yes. And flatulence. Uh, and we need more of that.
Yeah,
we need more that. Love
he he keeps it light-hearted at work and uh it is very much appreciated.
Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. And he's he's got got a lot on his plate. Lots of games
now that he's like the boss art man.
He is big boss man.
Oh, Keith, you're doing the
finding finding shots. Good bounce. All right, there we go.
Excellent.
Okay,
that was a great cut.
Oh, a little swoopy. That is really fun.
All right.
Oh, back hand. Easy. All right. Two more.
Oh, magnet.
Okay. One more.
One more.
All is that mouth open?
Yep. Boom. There it is. Hit it. What's the
Jeezel?
I didn't know he did have like five more seconds. It's fine.
Yeah, but he went back to the G.
He did. Okay.
He's like, "Wait, I have to also score 20 million, right?" Uh,
giving me a heart attack. Oh my goodness.
Oh, man.
That was awesome. Um, well, that was a very quick one.
Just making sure I didn't get another uh cryptic message from Keith.
Oh, Keith, stop talking about
Y nailing shots. That's all we're talking about. Talking about practice. So, one of the things that you get from winning this outside of like a nice chunk of money is a free stern pro pinball machine.
If you had to pick a pro pinball machine to take home right now, what do you think you would pick?
Okay. Of the new games,
cuz it it has to be a new one, right? You can't be
I don't I Yeah, you can't go like I'll take a a Mustang.
Uh Yeah. Yeah. Um, and and pro like of of the pros that are good. So, I do have a Godzilla and Deadpool. So, like that's off the table.
Deadpool Pro would be like way up there. Um, a King Kong Pro.
Okay.
Wouldn't mind that.
Yeah, I have one at my studio. I quite enjoy shooting that.
Yep. I I think that would be my my goong.
I would get that.
Hell yeah.
Uh oh gosh. Um I I think I would I don't know. I
I know it's tough to say. I I might actually I I might have would have said D and D, but I do have the playthrough, so I just need a cabinet for it.
Yeah,
stick it in somewhere. Um, would it be weird to say old Star Wars?
Oh, 20 2017 Star Wars.
As far as pros go, I like that pro.
I like it.
It just doesn't have the
the the hyperoop and the uh the ramp into the deaths.
Oh, the the fork thing that happens there.
Yeah. So, I I like I like Star Wars. I I like Star Wars cuz that was the first game that I made my strategy on. Like it wasn't like your own way to play.
Yeah. Like I didn't watch tutorials. I didn't watch anything. I was like, I want this. I went in vanilla. It was like, you know, one of the first games, whatever. And I'm like, I'm going to learn this game. And I was like, all right, Leia practice,
dude. Leia is the first.
There is that I I my end game was fun. I found my my happy space and it was fun. But I I enjoyed that one because I I was able to like do the test of like, all right, do I have a better time with Leia R2v2 on Okay, and I found my way
keeping the the multiplier spread out longer. That game I used to love streaming that game because it it was comical that you could like make one shot worth 2.8 billion points.
I do. I love it. People People do say it's like, "Oh, better make that 40X." And I'm like I kind of like it. Yeah, I because it's
it's not just playing pinball, but you're juggling at the same time.
Yeah. If it was easy, then it would be lame. Yeah.
Uh but it is it's the hype. It's the built-in hype.
It's like you hear that to going off and you're like, "Oh, I got to hit these dangerous targets to keep that thing up.
Keep it in alive." Yeah. I once went through all of lightsaber duel at 40x. Kept it the entire thing. 40x trillion points probably.
Yeah. It I It was like two billion.
Oh my god.
It was two billion. And I I was the coolest person
and uh yeah, so I kind I kind of like Star Wars.
Shout out to Dwight Sullivan.
Oh, I love Dwight. We We and I He and I were both into Critical Role now. Well, I was I was always, but very much now. So,
what is what are you looking at here?
We're looking at Stranger Things
Oh, great. Okay.
Oh, okay. We're doing
So, um what happened was Keith and Neil want to play Stranger Things, but there's a game on Stranger Things already. I got you.
So, we're going to watch Zach Sharpe um try to start telekinesis multiball.
Okay.
And it looks like he just needs to shoot that left ramp to lock a ball.
Interesting though is if you can start uh can you backhand the left ramp? Some copies you can and others can't.
Oh, true. Yeah.
And that's that's big.
Yep.
It looks like the time to beat here is 2 minutes and 43 seconds. Uh to start telekinesis multiball, you have to hit those two 1/2in targets on either side of that ramp and then shoot up the middle. Yep.
And because it's on hard mode, it looks like you have to do that every single time.
Every time.
So,
that was no problem right there.
Was that That's two
breeze through it. Yep.
All right. Good little ski pass there.
Oh, he's pulling the old I'm too good to be bad.
You know, on certain game, isn't there a setting that the left ramp spots a light block?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That that is on this actually.
At least at
that. Oh, okay. That backhand didn't even go.
No. Yeah, but he might have been I
He was going for the target, but
Yeah, but that looked like it would have it would have if it could have.
So early. So early. Yep.
There it is.
Oh, I love that. Oh, that sound right there.
Did Jerry do this game?
I don't know. But definitely the uh the audio work from the callouts to the music and the sound effects on this game are freaking iconic. Like
when you go into the burn in your brain, the upside down uh
Yeah. Oh. Oh, I'm getting chill. Look at this. Chills. It's all about the sound, man.
Shooting into the demogorgan's mouth is very rewarding if you can do it.
Uh, tough to do it though.
Yep.
Uhhuh. Uh-huh. Usually I'm not really paying attention to the center stuff. I like everything. But as in I I'm one of those players like Attack from Mars, I I am shooting everything but the saucer.
Yep.
Stay out of the danger zone there.
Yeah. Uh oh. Or or you know though on um Spider-Man I I am one to I I do like to go on
Oh, Sandman.
And Sam for some reason I like Sandman and I will Sandman it.
I was just playing that game the other day and I I forgot how good that game is.
Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right.
Stern Stern Spider-Man.
Another classic do the multiball game.
Yep. Absolutely.
All right. Here we go. Neil's going first. And I think we're starting with Oh, it's tied five to five. The person that wins this wins first. Wow.
There is no going back
on Stranger Things.
You're about to You're about to watch everyone be very particular about the time they're spending here.
TK multiball.
All right.
Sling.
The game does not want to give them the ball. Oh,
game.
That don't bonus,
man. One day there'll be a setting.
Oh, no.
Split the gap. Split the gap. Oh, yeah. Stranger Things. This is the game that Keith kind of has trouble on shooting the sea pubs.
Uhoh. Uhoh. All right, back in.
So early. Oh, a little early there.
That was weird. It went so Anyway, no, it doesn't matter. Everything's green. Um, all right. So, first block is lit on the left ramp.
A little early there as in shoot. When you're so early, you shoot a different shot, right? What I like about this game too is like it follows that um very classic like Attack from Mars rule structure of like hit the same shot three times to start the thing.
I I was going to say like right from the start like this game was so easy to understand.
Yeah. I I really really enjoy a game of like this complexity. It's like keep the main stuff very simple for people to understand and then you can sprinkle in some other things. Oh, did he start
upside down too?
Or just shoot I don't Oh, you can make progress. Okay. Okay. I guess it's just the lights that are That's game knowledge right there.
No kidding.
All right. I I would have liked that he would have had to tilt, but uh that's probably a good thing that you can still make.
All right. One more shot up that ramp and he can time it.
That sound is so good.
Come on, my guy.
Oh, no. That is the drain right there.
What happens if he death saves?
You think so? Did do not do that.
Does not
do it.
All right.
All right.
2.1.
His um urgency or lack thereof to go time out. I think he knows that might not have been the best time.
I don't know. That's kind of part for the course for these guys of the uh turn around over there and uh Oh, there we go.
Yep. Tickle the ivories.
This is another multiball as well. It's like a simple multiball, but getting that 2x Oh, yeah.
or 4x super, whatever. I I like that
beauty and simplicity this game.
I like the art, too.
Mhm.
And I like the show a lot. I haven't watched Is the new season out?
Uh I don't think it's out just yet.
Okay. Uh, I remember when we announced this game, I accidentally uh leaked the black light sort of effect that's on this game.
Oh.
Uh, no one caught on to it thankfully, but um, yeah.
Find the Roll the clip.
Roll the clip. I had a bunch of cool face paint on. It was at CES.
All right. Good plunge to the flippers.
Boom. Target one.
He finds the E. finds the de.
Oh, gets it.
Well, he knows where that target is.
All right, so you can backhand it. It's early.
Finds the left ramp just so you know where it is.
He's ready for it. Yep, he knows where it is.
Finds it again.
So, it's facing. Yep.
Really good. Uh,
I don't mean to laugh. It's just It's like you're too good for your own good.
All right. See now, now do Can you hit the left ramp now? Oh,
he's got it.
He is that good. He is in fact
that guy
the guy.
So Keith has to beat two minutes. Oh, that almost gave him two.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Like hit the one but it hit the side of the other.
So halfway there. He This is going to be close cuz he's literally halfway there.
He just let that whole bonus play out.
I don't know. No, he he doubled. He doubled.
You sure?
You can't. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. It sure it looked like he just watched it play.
Oh man. Oh. Oh, he almost got a tip on that. That That might have been the difference. It's going to be close now.
What the What are you doing?
I I get the sentiment of wanting to get straight to the flipper.
All right.
Finds his favorite shot in the game.
Okay. He's going to on the fly.
Okay.
Don't care about the time, Keith. Just do it. Do it.
Do it. You got 30 seconds. You got 30. Oh my god.
It's close. It's so close.
Are we going to 10 ball this? Keith.
All right. Ski jump.
You got 20 seconds, bro. That was beautiful. Oh my god. He's not happy.
You can still have time.
Oh my god.
You can still do it.
He's
He doesn't know. I guess. I don't know. Maybe you can't with the standups. I don't know.
Yeah. I think uh Yep. All right.
Oh, that was close.
Congratulations to Neil Graph for taking out Keith Elwin.
Man, smart choice. Yeah.
Taking Keith to a standup target game, I would say.
No doubt. No doubt.
That guy can't miss a shot.
He loves shots, not targets.
Yeah. Yeah.
Um Wow. That I mean that went as long as a round can go.
Yeah, that was that was probably my favorite uh game just there. I don't know that because so much was on the line there that that the objective was just hard enough that it wasn't just
uh shoot this shot that's easy, but a lot it was shoot these really tiny shots and in the order that we need you to.
I'm I'm hoping a lot of the rounds moving forward are that close cuz it it's a lot more engaging.
We're like right here.
Oh, I see. Yeah. I I thought you were waving at somebody. I think those people thought you were waving at somebody.
Oh, probably.
Confused looks over there being so rude,
man. Jack is waving at at at me.
I have to hold my other arm up to wave at people.
Stern twotime designer and market director. What's your role?
I am the uh
So, I'm the community engagement officer, which is the CEO.
Wow. Uh, no. It's the head of head of community.
Like, you know, CEO, I'm like like horizontal.
Yeah. Right. I I essentially own the company, but I'm letting everyone else, you know, roll the dice.
No, I think that the the marketing what whatever you just said. I feel like a lot of people were really excited to, you know, see you on on camera again and having your personality shine through.
Feels good to be back. Absolutely. And now that my arm's sort of healing up, I can start executing all of the content plans that I have.
Although, hey, playing one hand pinball is a very like that should be one objective on one of these.
Oh, yeah. No doubt, actually.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, man.
I mean, I don't want to uh That was the top mode I did for Jaws was uh one-handed. The whole
Oh, the shark is broken.
Yeah, the shark is broken had a one-handed feature on it where you have to hold down the button and then use
and play with the other hand.
Yeah. Now, that was a funny thing though in that so the whole idea for this this mode was me being like, "So, Keith, I want to learn about how our games work and the best way to do that is to like break the way that they're intended,
how the hardware functions."
Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to know more about the hardware. More on that later, though. We're starting bird one multiball.
We got Bill Mason here. Uh he's got to hit all the drop targets.
Wait, is it bird one or Oh, yeah. It's bird one. So, um, he's actually ready for a jetpack as well if he decides to change his mind.
You know, I think double points fuel. Maybe it is.
Maybe he's
Yeah. No, this is definitely definitely
good cuz we already saw a bird.
Yeah.
Uh,
oh, you bet. Oh, he could have.
Yeah, that was So, there that is my
back. Yeah. Now, are you shooting for under side of the flipper or right next to the flipper? and that dead end like where when if you want to get into the eject on the right
for me it's pray and spray like I I'm just holding the flipper up and just hoping it does something but realistically I I like to do the uh the roll like backwards flip
the back Yeah, give it a little juice when it rolls out. Pop it back in there
cuz like the super direct shot, you know, it can bounce out.
Yeah. Yeah. You need to like close it kind of all Star Trek
in the wardrobe next time. Okay, so his we were the
is definitely jet pack.
All right, so his next left orbit is lit. You can see those blinking orange circles are the indicator uh that he has to shoot that again.
Man, did you play this game on release?
Yeah.
It's so beautiful to see like the I progression. It's almost like obviously we want to make our games and release them with as much code as possible most as possible, but this is such a fun example of how much code can change a game and how important code is. Like this layout rocks,
but the game sucks because it's all about all of this, you know, all of the
all the rules and such. So
yeah, the a lot of a lot of hard work and dedication went into really molding this game into what it is today. Yeah, but I mean MXP was and and Lonnie were from the beginning
uh working on this game. So it wasn't that he was brought on to fix things.
Nothing was taken away from them and stuff like that. No, they were always the team working at it. They just, you know,
this full thing was the always the intention.
It was it was just the timing of it. Man, struggling on that left orbit in jetpack is not an easy multiple to start, which is why it's kind of fun.
Oh, no.
We're going to 10.
Yeah. What I was going to say, is this our first 10 ball?
What ball are we on?
Five. Oh,
all right. Halfway there. And we're only halfway in to the the boat progression or the rule.
Can you get free jetpack progression with these skill shots or anything? No. Okay.
I don't think so. I mean,
oh, you can get a start jetpack multiball, but that's probably turned off.
Oh, well, surely, right? You can. I think I'm going to say that maybe you can only do that if you already have two locks. Like maybe there's some rule in there.
Dude, this right out lane is just
killing Bill right now. He's on ball seven,
man.
Good stop.
Nice.
Excellent pass.
This might be a good pro to own.
That's it. Oh, yeah, dude. I I have this in my studio. I love jamming on this game. There we go. One more. That's all you need.
Ball seven.
Oh, the kick out. Uh, that one was uh not as aggressive as me.
Yeah, that was a kind kick out.
Post pass. There you go.
Yeah, I'm always tempted to do it on the fly, but the post pass is so safe.
That bounce is making me nervous.
All right, it is on the edge.
Okay, there you go.
Line it up.
I think Oh, on the fly.
You know what's interesting? that shot that he made just before the successful one is he made it but he had put so much English into the machine it pushed the ball off of the guy
it might have been that way sometimes it's hard to tell if like the spinner kind of caught a weird piece
or you yeah you just hit it in a weird way
yeah if that spinner's spinning it's not infallible like you you can't just always shoot through it will at some point give you an edge that you can possibly collide with rare but it definitely happens
or you can catch the edge of the spinner itself
yep All right.
All right. 3 minutes and 43 seconds.
Zach Sharpe, or coach as I like to call him. This is the gentleman that taught me how to play pinball. He actually taught me uh how to play one-handed, and that's what made me learn how to read a ball sooner. Um just slow the game down. And uh yeah, it's this guy is an incredible pinball player. I was going to make a joke of, you know, you call him coach, I call him Josh.
There's only one sharp brother.
Well, no, I I just I He looks like a Josh and and and Josh looks like a Zack.
Okay, that's fair.
I'm not the only one in this. I'm sure everybody like
back me up on this one.
I know for sure they get it all the time, too.
I I I have it cleared now, but in my head it's like it's the opposite. Like, flip it, flip it. All right. So, Zach actually having a little trouble with that shot as well.
Good progress so far, though. I mean, like that. We're We're still on ball one. Let's put it that way.
Oh, little late there.
Nice live catch
in. Drop it. Nice. All right. He has to make that left orbit and he is in it to win it.
Oh, interesting trying to live catch that. I was expecting a dead flip.
Appreciate you.
I am doing that more now.
It just sounds cooler, huh? I guess so. It sounds uh
Oh, that
sounds easy. Look at that. Jetack multiball. This used to be so valuable. Really good.
Um, okay. But back on back to, if I may, with the uh one-handed,
of course. Yeah.
Uh, weird. Whatever.
Shark is broken.
So, in the beginning, I just wanted to mess with the flipper mat. I would need food if I were to get uh drink any. Uh but um Okay. Yeah. So, the original intention was just for me to learn weird things about our games and how the flipper works. And there's a thing called a flipper map and how the the coil and the flipper buttons and all of that run together. So, initially I was just do weird things. And there's some things that our code disallows you from doing like the the system will not allow you to assign one flipper button or or it was like one uh like a flipper coil needed to be assigned or something. I couldn't just have it dead.
Interesting.
Yeah, it was like a weird thing like that where normally like that's that's just to protect us from ourselves.
But I was just like no, I want to do the weird thing, you know, for this this mode.
Let me break it around. wanting to break code. So, um, initially, um, even turning off flippers was like kind of a a hard thing to do.
Oh, interesting.
Um, which is the whole idea between the one-handed, but even before that, it was like, okay, now I know how to like do weird things with flippers. What do I do now?
And I was talking with MXV on it, and he had this like wacky idea where the button activates which flipper is live.
Oh, weird.
So, you would have to like hit the button to activate the left and then hit it again to activate the right and then like go back and forth to that. And I coded it like that at first and it was the hardest thing ever. My brain was like I can't like what is going
it was like I was patting my head, rubbing my stomach and also like resetting pie.
Okay, you know, whatever. So I wish I was the only one that was able to get to play it like that. I wish I like snuck it in it somewhere and kept it, but just to be like, you see how sucky this is?
You got to put it like hide in the code for the challenge menu.
Yeah, I No, I I took it out and was like, no, I'm just making it. You have to hold it. Hold down the button and that activates both flippers. Easy. Done.
All right,
that's the that's the the teeth.
The shark is broken. Uh, and Elizabeth is trying to break all the games.
All Yeah, my my uh Yes. making modes that are bad for multiball and and flipper weirdness
since 2022.
Hello.
Um,
great mark your multiball. Well, that's OG.
So, what do you do?
You want to clear those stand up targets that are in the in lane on the left. I said stand up. I mean drop targets. Come on. I mean they are standing up. They're standing at tension over there. Yeah. Clear the three drops. Get the ball way back up on into that cross right there.
Yeah. Oh,
I love his energy to turn around.
It's almost like he's the one that came up with this idea or something.
Or maybe that might have been Josh.
Josh. He is Josh.
No, that's that's Zack. Don't do this to me. That's Zach. Don't do this to me.
Um yeah, Josh. Uh Josh got the idea to use these like cool handtime timer things from his son's like Rubik's Cube racing stuff and they work great. They're uh you barely have to touch them for them to register cuz it's all conductive with your
the like the electricity in your body.
And I love how we can see the timer right next to the shoulder.
This is fun.
Um but yeah, so great markers is tough because it does not hold your progress from ball to ball.
Yeah. And those uh those drops can be dirty if they don't feed out of there. Nice. You can back on very
backand. Yeah. Some games it's the the flipper is too shallow. It doesn't quite line up.
Thank you, sir. Thanks.
Fancy water with a line in it.
Oh, we're going to have fun now. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom a few more times, I think.
Good. I'm glad he didn't bring one. I'm I might have started drinking it.
I have the bladder of a camel. So, uh, I'll be here all night.
Not I, sir.
I'll be for both of us.
Oh, man. Yeah, the dead flip doesn't get it. Boing.
Yeah, that was off the sling.
Wait, is he done?
Yeah, he's done. This is him. I started grave marker very fast. Did he beat that?
Yeah, we Man, we did very bad. That That was our first full fail on commentating in terms of keeping up with the the Joneses here. Who was just playing?
Uh uh not well not Josh.
Yeah.
So 40 seconds is pretty respectable.
Uh the animation on this game is the best.
I mean when they revisited this uh watching them put this stuff together. I remember when they got um when they were working on the models of the characters of the band members
before they like did all the stylization and stuff to them that you see on screen. It you couldn't tell they weren't real. Like they they were so finely textured and stuff. It was terrifying.
Yeah. A little uncanny valley.
Yeah. Just just a little bit.
That's how you know you're that close.
Yeah. You made it.
Uh no, it's so neat. And I like the piston uh like the Yeah, really really really fun.
A lot of cool stuff went into that because obviously it was a DMD game before we re-released it and uh got to got to fill up that screen somehow.
Yeah, big old screen. Um and uh yeah, and I I liked the uh the styling like the black and white. It that's it's a bold choice to go like less is more in terms of color and things.
So um yeah, no, they they nailed it. Raymond did a good job too of like improving upon what's already there. Kind of filling in the gaps and and not really changing anything about what is like excellent about that game. Just
adding a little bit of 57.
He did a good job of, you know, using what Lyman laid down and putting at adding on top of it. It doesn't feel disjointed at all. It's like it's he did a really great job.
Yeah, that job I I don't know if I could have done it like that. That I
Here's this beautiful glowing package and then you have to like ruin it. I got a clue what to do.
Yes, it's a scalpel. Uh,
no, more building around the beautiful thing.
Putting it on a higher pedestal, I'd say.
Absolutely.
Uh, thank you for joining us here on this Wednesday morning, internet. I'm Jack Danger, uh, joined by Elizabeth Gizki. We are from Stern Pinball. Um, Mountain Dew is sponsoring this awesome Stern Pro Circuit, uh, run by the IFPA. And this is 32 players from around the world, culminating from 20 events that happened over the past year, all competing for $30,000 in cash and prizes, including a brand new
Pro Stern.
Yeah. And I'm not sure what game you get to pick, but you know.
No, I think Yeah, you get to choose, right?
We'll figure that out unless we just tell you what game you're going to get.
Carrie, last world women's world champion, she won. Shout out to Carrie Wing. Hey, how how you going? Uh, she chose Star Wars.
Heck yeah. She said Star Wars 2017.
Get it?
Yeah.
I think I think that was a pro as well. It might have been a premium.
I think they're typically pros when we give games away from
Right. That's why I say but I'm like I think she's like oh I
Oh, you know what it is? You were able to pay the difference to an upgrade. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. Doesn't matter. Um everything's great. Uh but this tournament uh the way we're holding this um finals is it's a heads up style um sort of pin golfy but it's all time based. So we give you an objective and you have to beat that objective within 10 balls within 10 minutes as quick as possible and it's you versus one other person. Quickest time wins. Best six out of 11 moves on. And uh yeah, there's six rounds, three normies, quarter semi and then finals. Man, can you imagine how long this would have lasted if they had to play an actual full game?
We'd still be on that first game.
Yeah, of course that would be best of five surely or you know, not not best of 11. When I first heard that best of 11, what we're what what we're like, oh, 30 second objectives, I'm okay.
Yeah, you got me there.
Yeah, we're like the the longest we've seen is about three and a half minutes. The shortest we've seen was 28.5. 28.5
the diameter of a women's basketball.
57 spices.
57. Yeah, baby. 72 seasons.
All the numbers. Uh
uh we're making stuff up that happens to actually be true. All right. So, we got Jane Verwise jamming on Jurassic Park. Jane, one of our local players here, uh who absolutely dominates the area.
And she's uh
quick tilt. Quick tilt.
Tilt. Quick tilt. Hey, but tilting through bonus. Say that's smart. I didn't realize that.
If you're allowed to, let's freaking go.
All right. I'm not sure. I I'm guessing it's chaos cuz she's forcing it to the right.
Oh, yeah.
Nailed it. I I'm on it.
Now, again, 10 balls. So, you got plenty of tries, but if you don't beat it in the 10 balls, you get what they're calling the DNF,
which stands for something. Do not
Dan Dan
freeze. Dad not vain.
Dad not friend.
Anyways, I Yes. Hey, there we go. Oh, boy. Goodness.
Did not finish is what is what I'm being told it is.
And uh this would be my do not did not finish because that O shot is a killer.
Now, we have seen uh a couple of people struggle to hit the Cshot cleanly. So, I'm It's not out of the ordinary that she's having some difficulty with that.
Yeah, perfectly normal. This actually is Raptor. She's starting Raptor.
Are we sure? She hit the C though.
I don't.
Oh, it is.
Doesn't matter.
Ooh. The last three matches of between Jane and Andy were all within three seconds of each other. So, we are watching two people that are very equally
very evenly matched. Both have two wins. All of the wins have been within 3 seconds of each other. That is bonkers. Uh heesh.
Um how do you Oh man, that cooked out of there, too.
So is she ready? One one more shot should have it.
I I believe that the playfield is telling me anything. Let me use my sleeping goggles.
The super blink.
That's the one. Yeah. No, you
Oh, it didn't count. Well, good thing she looked back.
You know what? Props to her because I would not
I thought that went I thought that nailed it. All right, there we go. Yeah, easy.
2 minutes 6 seconds. Oh, she's not happy with that.
That might matter. The 3se second whatever. up cuz not only did it not count, but it got hung up and she had to shake it like
a good shimmy. That was a good quick heads up play.
Good on her for noticing though cuz I I don't know what the call is if you cash out
uh that
Oh, I think you get a DNF.
I think so.
Yeah.
Did not flip.
Did do what was I I came up with a pretty good initial done fam. Dun know fam. Dogs, not frogs.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, every game I've worked on so far has featured a dog.
Really?
Yeah. The two that I've worked on.
Oh, yeah. Cuz D and D's got that dog that steals the
the potion. Yeah. Which that was the one mode I didn't code in. Actually, was that and the
and Jaws had the dog you had to save from being eaten.
That's right.
All right. Here's Andy Bagwell. He lives here in this building.
Yeah. I saw a a pillow and blanket over there as well.
Underneath the pins setters of the bowling alley.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Here we go.
The time to beat is 2 minutes and six seconds.
All right. And
hands on it and go.
Go.
All right.
All right. We are not shooting the C target.
Oh, a little backhand in the raptor. Any way, any way to get that ball up in there.
Is he going to backhand it?
I would. Yep. That's it. That's it.
You know, I raptor during regular play and whatnot.
He got the recheck, too.
The raptor is usually not my my go-to.
Oh, no. Another one where it just cleanly went through without hitting anything.
Yeah, you got to hit that that uh that target.
Inside of there are two targets and then a target all the way in the back. Yeah, similar to Attack from Mars or
Oh, or Okay. I I was thinking we were going to see a sub one minute, but um
I'm not Yeah, we we don't know how much time he has left, but I I feel like it's it's going to be close.
Oh, you got the
Yep. Good measure.
All right. Can you get He's got Okay,
there we go. Got that target back.
Yep.
Hold on. You got to look at the animation. Chill out, dude. He said, "I don't care."
Man, it's so Rick has actually the best uh my preferred way of preventing that from happening. It's the easiest way. And it's funny when his games don't do it cuz I'm like, "You've made the easiest method. It's like a oneline change."
Oh. To skip animations.
Yeah, it's really easy. But on like other games, it takes a little bit more like four lines of code. So different. I know.
Oh, he's not handy. That's so funny.
Now you in the grand scheme of things, right? We're all here for fun. It's great. But they are playing for $30,000
worth
in cash and prizes.
So, uh there's a little bit of contention like you you're still trying to do the thing. All right. He's one shot away and he nailed it.
Oh man, the turn around and hit.
Oh my gosh.
You always know when Andy's hearing it. the spin and clap.
All right. Well,
someone checked that machine to make sure it still works. He pounded that thing.
Oh, this isn't a Is this a game that will infinitely won?
Oh,
that I They fixed it at some point, right? It used to do that.
I don't know. Look at this.
I think so. I think so. Cuz the playfield validation on that game needs two switches.
It only ever hits one on a pro.
Oh, sure. Price and Bowen to the scorers table.
That was a that was a great that was a great fight. Uh Jane, it looked like she was struggling to get in there uh into the raptor pin, but like once she did, she was starting to knock that out. The ball getting hung up though might have been the lynch pin that
Did it take 10 seconds? It might It might have.
I mean, she walked away, turned back, came back to it, had to shake it, let it fall down, and then hit the shot.
Roll the clip. Do we have a replay?
A replay. Roll flip.
Um
I I don't know. I I'll say I I'll say he got he got regardless.
Um internet, thanks for hanging out. Uh we are still there's still like round one and round I think some round two stuff happening. I think they just announced uh Bowen versus
Yeah, they are. It is uh likely that they like to start as soon as as soon as two competitors are ready, they they they put them in.
All right, we're staying on.
All right, go chaos.
Oh, here we go. This is this is the one that we have seen has taken the most time, I think.
Yeah. Yeah. Or uh NYC events also.
Oh, you think so?
Had quite some time.
Nothing has touched the 28.5 seconds
of uh John Wick's start car multi. Another uh we have not seen is capture a dinosaur. That is also an impact.
Can you explain how to do that?
Oh yeah, absolutely, fam. Uh all you have to do is hit the white shots to spell map.
Uh usually you just do that by hitting left. It's the easiest one. And then you shoot the left ramp to actually start your paddic
and then little red or orange inserts that say rescue on them will light around the playground.
Okay.
Alongside a green dinosaur insert that will light.
Okay. And you have to shoot the rescue shots before the dinosaur can get them.
Um I think you can it
Oh, wait. Is that capture dinosaur? I thought it was like hitting these two targets here.
Oh, but to start to even light those two targets, you need to first rescue an employee. You see, there's this trend with Keith games. It's a story. And uh but yeah, I think you only have to do one rescue shot your first one. It's more as you progress through. But yes, that does light the two stand up targets.
I've been I've been out of the rules game for too long. or or one of the two standups and then you just have to hit one and then that lets the dinosaur yellow and then that will then uh capture once you collect that shot.
All right, so chaos multiball here again. People are having trouble with the SE but Andrew hit it so hard that it went into the raptor.
Well, they've got some they got some used to uh they got used to those shots are and now the deceptively difficult left.
He hit it and it rolled back. All right, here we go. Can he hit the A one time? He's going to have to pass it over.
Oh, nice. Okay.
Usually Keith games are are very hard to post pass on because the slings are
I've noticed that, too.
Yeah, the slings are farther from the flipper than some others.
Uh like you know, Rush the slings are very close to the flippers, which makes it equally as difficult to postp gets the O. I would be I That's the worst thing that would be frustrating
is when you get the O, it's unlit. battle it
like my one in my game and I didn't get credit.
There you go. He got an actual post pass out of it. He nails the A.
He hits.
He hits that.
All right. Can he ski pass into the O? Oh, he nailed it.
Yeah. Really fun shot in the game getting that stand up.
It seems like it shouldn't be possible, but it's right there.
Right.
Especially when that truck is
bouncing. Yeah, these these rubbers are making making the game bounce.
I'm telling you, that's why I tell you,
you're right.
I have
got to use it. Use that upper flipper.
Yeah. It's not like Godzilla.
It's similar to Avengers. You need to use the flipper there, too.
All right. Little sling sling.
So, this is uh this is where we watch Can he hit the O?
Oh,
what? Oh, he hit the O and now S is left. Sorry, he hit the O, but it was still blinking, so I wasn't sure. Okay, there's S.
Yeah.
Now, can he Can he Oh, the truck's butt is in the way.
Get out of the way. Move that car.
Move, dude. Shake the shake trunk.
Little like weird. Now, there's always the option of shoot the spinner dirty and hope it falls into the pops.
There it is. Get it.
Nice shot. Nice shot.
227.
We're We're being asked to look at a food menu while we're commentating, and this seems like it might be difficult.
Am I going to eat a big old sloppy sandwich while I'm doing calls?
Could you imagine eating wings? So, uh,
here we, uh, we've been having a fun time learning Metallica.
Yeah. Getting all those new modes and non multiballs.
Very fun.
Oh, you're you have like a double vibe, right?
Yeah.
I'm surprised you're here so quickly.
Yeah.
I should have slept more.
Me, too. I got up at 6 in the morning. Uh,
what are you getting? I'm just going to get that.
I'm either between a chicken quesadilla or the uh chicken CVS.
I'm getting the quesadilla.
Oh, the the What's the CVS?
Uh, it's like a
chicken breast, cheddar cheese, avocado, apple with smoked. Oh, that sounds good, too.
It's like a BLT only different letters.
Is it called chicken quesadilla? I'll get that. I have no idea how to spell quesadilla. I wrote quoes.
It's like John Wick.
Yeah. For made up words.
Deconstructionally wrong.
Deconstruction.
How many ways can we say it wrong?
All right. Jane has 2 minutes and 27 seconds to beat Chaos Multiball to tie it back up once again. Again, that C is a pain in the sea.
All right. Gets it first try. Basically into the H combos. Nah, not quite into the A. Going on a
Can you get the A Jamber Jim Weisz? Oh, okay.
So, a no flip is okay.
I mean, it it didn't it wasn't okay. It was okay.
It was until it
like paused at the tip of the flipper, and I don't think she was expecting that.
Either way, you're kind of you're kind of out of control.
If you can hit the tower shot, then do it. You know what I mean?
All right. Okay. Post.
Yep. There's the uh
I like shooting it from the the fly. I wouldn't I wouldn't mind shooting left ramp and right.
Darn. All right. All right. Well, you can save a lot of time on the O if she can get this A.
J's rocking her Chicago Billiard Cafe shirt.
Good. Good call out.
All right, here we go. Oh,
I like the short plunge there to get to the left.
Little tippy tap.
Active swing.
Okay, good, good, good, good.
Oh,
no. A
a
left ramp and right.
Okay,
it's going to pop. Hold it. Pause it. Clean. Oh, sure.
Oh, come on, Jay. Get up there,
man. Hitting the chaos letters on purpose is so hard.
I think supply trap might spot you a letter.
A free S.
Hitting some rescues. There it is.
All right, come on, bud.
Oh, I wanted that O right off the ramp.
It would have been nice.
This is it. This is it right here. early shoe string.
I mean, that's the size of that shoe string.
Does the ball fit through that shoe?
Barely.
All right. Just trying to find it to get it to the right.
Not a good not a lot of information how much time is left, but uh she's got to be coming up pretty close here.
She has time.
She said 22 actually. You think that was
she ran 227. That was
She She graciously moved her shoulder for
Thank you, Jane. All right, so she's not out of it. Uh they still got plenty of pinball left. Andy needs two wins to take it. Jane needs four.
That Jurassic Park is becoming like the decision maker.
Yeah, chaos is no joke. Yeah,
that that's tough. I I'm surprised no one has selected the the dinos. I
I would do that over Chaos 100.
I'm wondering if there's like too much orchestration for you like because you're timed and it feels like
and there's some luck. There's some randomness in where the rescue shots are.
True. Because it's moving, but also having to use more of the playfield also introduces more randomness of like missing and the ball going around everywhere. I'm going to have to use the restroom again.
Oh, right now.
Hey internet, it's me. Look at that rolling rig. So cool, man. Competition pinball.
Shout out to everybody that makes this stuff happen. Uh both here.
Yeah. She's taking a little potty break.
I can't lift up my arm. This is Elizabeth Gizki.
Accurately one time.
Look at that room. That's our current bank of games that we are battling on again. 32 players duking it out. $30,000 on the line, cash and prizes, which includes a brand new Stern Pro pinball machine. Thank you again to Mountain Dew Stern Pinball and IFPA for making this event possible. She has to shoot. You can tell by the blinking lights on the billboards.
Yeah.
Uh this is one of those games that I actually do pay attention to billboards. Certain ones I'm like, "Wait, there's billboards?"
Yeah. Right.
But this one I I do see that.
I I was expecting this one to take us to uh a couple of minutes. So I'm I'm I think I'm seeing that now.
It is. It is. It's tough.
Uh but now I'm I'm saying is it does it matter if the standup target is lit or unlit? Is it just hit? So unclear with like rules moving forward, but it should just be like
hitting them a number of times. Get it going.
Yeah. So, choose your favorite stand up.
Yep. And just beat the crap out of it. There you go.
Ooh.
Yeah, that was pretty.
Fun little tickle catch.
Oh, missing that. Oh,
this shot is so freaking awesome. What a genius design. whoever designed this game. Uh
anyway, I thank you Elizabeth.
Yeah, I've I've always been a fan of Gold Wings.
Yeah, me too. Me, too.
Actually, though, I I felt like I just played Gold Wings the first time and I'm like, man, this this is that was so much fun, you know? I'm like, no, no, it was more of like it's surprising that this hasn't been done again.
Yeah, but
uh
lo and behold,
but yeah, I I love the feeling of having to juggle. That's like my favorite feeling. It's why I like Star Wars with the button and having to get my hand off of the flipper is always fun. But in this one, it's like making you have to split your like use your periphery on knowing what is happening.
You're looking at the main Yeah, the main stuff. All right, so she can make this ramp. That's her second lock
there. Oh, it's her final lock.
Final lock. Sorry.
Oh, good thing.
3 minutes and 36 seconds.
H. Sorry. I I It's hard to tell the progress towards um with the stand up targets. Yeah.
I'm not sure
because they they sort of stay lit once you hit them.
Right. Right. Right. Right.
Again, Cory and uh MXV are working hard to, you know, breathe some pretty cool life into this game.
Yeah. Big fan of those, too.
And they're they're doing an amazing job. So, I'm we've got a litany of things that we're wanting to put in this game. And right now just laying the groundwork to add as much as we can before uh George slaps us in the face
and is like nope
stop it stop it.
I remember playing this whitewood for the first time that I remember like seeing and I'm like
you're not going to put a ball saying you know I was like are you going to do this? Like you're you're doing this and then you're and then you're like hey look at that target down there. I mean there's like so much to see
the target underneath the baby. Yeah. I forget if I noticed that. I think I did. I was like, "Whoa, is that a target right there?"
Yeah.
Um but yeah, I I also was like um interested to see the code because at that point there wasn't a lot of code written. Um it was very very early and I was like, "What do you call these shots in the in the code?" You know, like what are these shots called?
Yeah, it Yes. Naming them was uh difficult because they're all over the damn place. like the left backwards rotating ramp.
Yeah, cuz that is part of the problem with programming in general is naming your your variables. That is it takes some time
uh to figure out.
Oh, look at that. Get it, dude.
Really fun.
Oh, yeah. The skill shot, the Scere skill shot spots you a whole uh wave.
Yeah.
Or so if if you if you can get that left ramp skill shot, then this would be a good objective for you. I just recorded u another one of those AskJack videos where someone had a question about programming and I I went on a bit of a tiraate of like I'm so impressed with how you all program pinball machines because you you have an idea of what you want the ball to do but it's not going to do that and then understanding how to program for that chaos is like it
melts my brain. I don't understand how you all do that.
Yeah. Compensating hardware is something that we do.
Yeah. everyone smile. Um, but also just like we are natural pessimists and we're like what's the worst thing that could possibly happen? Make sure it doesn't crash.
That's about it. Yeah.
You know, it's like, well, the ball shouldn't do this. And I'm like, there it could. It Murphy's law.
As Gary likes to put it, the ball is wild, which is him saying, if it can happen, it 100% will happen.
All right, that's two. You've got one more to do.
Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Two. too.
I I think the strat here, so he's draining so that he can get another skill shot.
Oh, is that what he's doing?
Yeah.
Oh, sneaky. Or so if he shoots up that ramp.
Nailed it.
Whoa.
That's it. That's done. You did it.
Sneaky.
Yeah. I read tilt forums today. I I called Corey yesterday.
That's awesome.
I did. I was like I I slacked Cory. I was like, "Hey, can I uh call you?" And he's like, "Yeah, I can get on a video." And I'm like, "No, I need I need you right now." just, you know. Okay, so on in X,
but it looks like a good stride was to stay in the danger room and hit that target in there.
Speed crab out of that if you can just keep hitting that target to make that progress.
That was quick.
The danger room doesn't have to be dangerous, right?
Well, especially when you have 10 balls.
Yeah. Oh, there's also that. Yeah.
And the bonus is quick. I mean, like shooting the stand up targets in the back part of the playfield, the amount of time that it takes for the ball to travel all the way there and then mess around with whatever it's doing before it gets back to the flipper. the danger room. Just that quick
douch. Yep. And the danger room can be safe in there if you just don't if you're not overreacting, right? If you take it easy, trap up if you can. Like if you take it slow in there, you can stay in there for quite a long time if you choose to. Um, but also that target that they're trying to hit has been positioned to periodically help bounce out. Right.
So I But here's the thing in terms of again playing pinball differently. A lot of people are u maybe nervous about the danger room and only think let me get out. But hear me out.
Oops. Only danger room.
Okay. Like
how do we turn off the whole game?
Yeah.
Yeah. I'll divert to danger room. Um but to the point of uh playing the game differently, but also learning strategies that maybe you wouldn't have done. that my like greatest growth in pinball was when I decided that I am not going to play the game as an intended.
Oh yeah, exactly.
You know, and being very okay with like, yeah, I'm going to drop five bucks into this and I'm going to drain the ball a few times
cuz you you might discover something that like people that are trying to metag game aren't focusing on.
Yeah.
And you'll stumble across like this new way of playing the game.
Yeah. Yeah. And that's why heads up tournaments I mean I don't know how many people have come up to me and said in Godzilla that they didn't realize how many points were in
I was hoping I knew what the name of this was going to be by the time uh lightning strike.
It's what uh it's carnage bonus. Carnage bonus.
There you go.
Yeah. Uh people didn't realize how much you could really beef up that car and people were like yeah I've built that into my strategy now and they wouldn't have without the head.
Yeah. So
yeah, one of the uh one of to the point of like using more of the play field, like that's what Cory and Mike are doing with the danger room is like we're trying to make that a nice big chunk of gameplay. So you want to go in there in order to create some sort of extra point village on the other stuff. All right, we're going to start demo dog.
Demo dog, which you can spot. We have learned we you've heard it now. You can spot Santa targets by shooting that little saucer on the left.
Left saucer all day. We'll give you every letter you need one at a time. And if you miss, you're also collecting some letters. Um, if Andy wins this, he moves on
because it is the first to six and he is at five so far.
Okay. Okay.
We came in when it was tied two to two. And apparently the rounds were very close. It was like 3se second win separation. So, um, we'll see how this goes.
And they've been they've been Okay, so he hit the button. He wants to get out of fighting the demogorgan
cuz he needs those targets. Yeah.
All right. He's missing the O and the G. Now he can get those. I I don't know if he knows to shoot the saucer because I I would be doing that if it's on the right flipper.
If it's on the right flipper. Yeah. We'll see. Okay. This will be the Well, you know that that's not on the right flipper. That's a dead bounce.
Oh, that I think that should have given or dead flip as
There you go.
Okay. Now, this is the Does he know?
Yep. Shoot it in.
Okay. That would have been awesome.
See, all you want to do is a failed post pass. Put some spin on the ball.
The wildest strategy.
Look at the intensity in his Oh, pin his face.
That's Andy for you. That ant loud clap.
Loud clapping.
And that's spotted right there. He gets it for free.
All right. Can he hit the left of center shot?
Well, I I struggle with that shot just cuz I never shoot it on purpose.
Good bounce.
Upside down.
That's it.
Good to go.
Okay, it still starts. All right.
I love that everybody is like an upside down prevent progress.
Nobody knows.
He's talking through that right now, actually.
Because here's the thing, like normally people just trap up. If they don't want to deal with upside down, it's too dangerous. They trap up and wait
or they play upside down and like go for it. Either way, they're not thinking about, okay, let me keep doing demogorgan or demagogue. Yeah.
Or starting a ramps. So, I still don't know. I'm like, can you still do progress towards modes during that chat? Help me out.
Chad, help me here. I'll I'll step on this so it's not like a toss of you.
Oh, I haven't noticed. But thank you for making me think about it. Now I'm thinking about [Music]
Did you feel it?
All right. Minute 32.
It's a time to beat.
I want to see Jane get this. A minute 32.1. I want it on the same second but a different millisecond. M and then in and then these fast pads. Good thing we have them. Nothing Nothing is more accurate than eight batteries worth.
It's a It's a lot of batteries.
I Yeah, I saw Josh send it up and it was Josh cuz I know those two.
I wonder what is the closest uh win so far as far as time's concerned.
It must be between these people.
Yeah, with the the 3 seconds here.
Yeah,
you got this, James. That's just his normal way of drinking.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I was pushing up my glasses.
I feel like I should have gotten a case of
a piece of grilled chicken lately.
If you want to trade, I can do that. This the the thing you ordered also.
Oh, it was the other. Oh, okay. I got it last year. It's really good. I've just been eating a lot of grilled chicken.
Internet, we're 100% going to eat in front of you and do food reviews at the same time.
It's a mukbang. I'm a very sloppy eater, so it's going to be awesome.
Good.
All right, we got the E and the G, which is hard.
Scattering.
Yeah, I'm not angry at having that G already. Oh, the
away. Yeah, a full awkward.
All right, there we go. There we go. 3D. No,
not getting lucky off of these. Getting a lot of progress, but
look at Andy sweating back there. You know, it looks he's casting spells. Look at that.
Casting. This is indeed.
Look at him. It's going.
Have you played as a competitor and had that in your head of
100% right now?
I know I have control over making you mess up.
There we go. So that's a free plus the D though. And that's not We'd rather have one over.
Keep going. Keep going. Yep. Back in the D. That's awesome. No, you're good. You're good. You're good. You're chilling. You're chilling.
She has 30 seconds left.
Turn.
I'm going to say it's 30 seconds left just for Oh [ __ ]
She lits it. Oh, it doesn't dead bounce right on the
edge. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, chip, tick. Oh, slingshots. Let it the [ __ ] go. Oh, I mean, fart. Sorry.
Jeez, hope. It's been a while, guys.
Since I could hold my head up.
Did she plunge it thinking it was going to feed that left usually?
I don't know.
It's just out of time. She was out of time.
That was so close.
Okay, that was
production. I'm sorry. I swore
twice.
There's a swear jar over there.
Wait, does he beep it? Is he beeping it on the fly?
Okay.
All right. Andy Bagwell moves on.
This is it. I feel like I haven't sat up this street for this long in a long time.
Yeah, this is it's a marathon.
Doing good.
Hey, internet. I'm Jack Danger.
Yeah. uh paired with his uh favorite talking partner, Elizabeth Gizki. Um I I never distracted him when I uh went into the office ever. Uh you were cy cat caddy corny. Caddy corner.
Did you say you're kind of corny?
Caddy corner to me. We sat
I thought it was kitty corner.
No, it's catty corner.
Well, it's kitty corner.
We were near each other in terms of where we sat at some points in our lives. And it took all of my being not to be like, "Oh, I could just be talking to Jack right now."
Or throwing stuff at him.
Yeah. Poor thing. You were kind of in the thoroughare of like people walking by.
I was like PD receptionist. Anyone that walked in was like, "Hey, is George here?" I'm like, "I don't freaking know he's just walk over there."
It's true. It's true. You were also in like a brightly lit area. Everywhere else in PD is like very dark. Like where Chuck sits
cuz all the artists turn they like they they take the lights apart in the ceiling so they can actually work without glare. Yes.
Uh, and I was under a freaking spotlight.
Yeah. Yeah. So, really, it's more of like I can't see anything except Jack right there.
Um, yeah. When are we going to work on a game together?
Uh, I don't know. I just I I am a uh in terms of what I do and where I'm at, I just I just show up.
I mean, I'm not even a designer anymore, but I'm still going to design games. It's content. They will need ones and zeros at some point.
Hey, you know, I got some I got some of those.
I'll take a few of them.
Okay, I I have some to spare, maybe.
Internet, thank you for watching the Stern Pro Circuit. We are in the middle of it. We're in the thick of it right now. Again, 32 players from across the world, culminating from 20 events that happened last year for the Stern Pro Circuit, all competing for $30,000 in cash and prizes, which includes a new Stern Pro pinball machine. Uh, thank you to Mountain Dew for sponsoring this. Stern, IFPA, Elizabeth being the best talking head on the stream right now. Um,
well, one of two,
but uh, yeah. No, we've been we've been having fun here talking about how great objective based pinball is.
It is it is the most digestible and fun to watch.
Yeah,
I I love watching competitive pinball,
but at some point like when you tune in, you don't know what the hell you're looking at.
Yeah, it really is up to the commentators actually. Like I it's such a better experience when the commentators have a deep rule knowledge, but it takes a lot to be able to have that amount on all the games and also not only the strategies that you deploy for, but the strategies everybody else is too cuz you're trying to like read their minds, you know, and I've definitely been that person on two fighters, by the way, of like I know I'm about to really mess up people's mind right now, but hear me out.
They don't know what I'm going to do.
Keep them guessing.
I love Yeah, that's the way I play pinball is uh try to make people very confused,
including myself. You know, if you keep yourself confused, that will confuse your enemies.
You got to keep them guessing. Never know your next move. Do some like True
360 spins while you're flipping.
Yeah.
Uh but yeah, the the format here is uh a heads up. So, sometimes heads up tournaments are objective based on a ball limit. Some are based on time limits. We're doing it on a 10 ball 10-minute uh objective based. You got to do it within that time frame, but you're trying to do it as quick as possible and faster than the other player that you're against. Best of 11, meaning six, the first to six wins takes the whole thing. Um, and we've seen some pretty close games. We've seen some not so close games. And we've got a lot of pinball to go.
We saw Keith walk away cuz he got bored.
I Me, too.
We saw him forget about the objective and just start playing.
It was fun. It was fun to watch him. He like started multiple. He just then he found the shot he needed long after it didn't matter.
Practice practice just that right target.
Uh stay on target.
But you know in terms of uh other ways to play you know objectives is is very fun in terms of competitive pinball headtohead matches are my favorite uh concept.
Yeah.
You know and sticking with a group and knowing that it's like next next game wins or or this person really needs to win now and get some momentum here. Um, but I like how that's all the state tournaments and how those those tournaments are always run um are always headtohead. Super fun. I love it.
Heck yeah.
It's also a lot more digestible for uh normies, not non-pin heads.
Not not us. Uh never us. Okay, let's try to guess at what
Look at that 19. What a champion.
Jared is one of my favorite people every time I see him. Just such a nice
This kid's control is
beneics. We're doing capture.
Was that capture a dinosaur in 42 seconds?
So fast. I I didn't even have time to guess at what he was doing.
Uh there's the challenge.
Well, as soon as he shot a random ramp and was like nailed it. I'm like, "All right, I guess that's a paddic."
That was unreal. 42 seconds.
Not did not beat the 28.5, though. So, uh, this is Neil Graph, who his last round he took out Keith Elwin.
It's tradition to knock out Keith first round.
Yep. He's got to do it.
All right. So, capturing a dinosaur. You're going to want to hit that left ramp. It You might have two letters already spotted.
So, I think you just need one white ramp.
I'm hearing Windows tell me that there's a notification.
All right, there we go. Yep, you just need one white shot. Oh, an air. I've never seen that.
Holy moly.
Oh, nailed that post.
Bounce. Excellent. Right up the ramp.
Deceptively hard left ramp.
And now he's got to shoot an all rope. How is he doing that?
Twice.
I've never seen it. And he's done it twice.
Well, if you didn't if you did it once, you got to do it again. That's the rule.
All right. Easy shot. Easiest shot in the game. Just hit that left ramp. Watch him hit the right ramp right there. That that T-Rex Oh my Get out of here.
Okay, so that lights the stand up targets. He wants to hit uh one of those two.
So the right one is lit. So he's going to Oh, he realized he ran out of time.
Ran out of time. But now both of them are lit. It's just easier to access based off of which way the truck
Oh, sure. Got it. Oh, the truck. Okay. Truck was hiding.
Yeah. It's always kind of hard to tell.
42 seconds. That airball. I've never seen that before. That was wild.
Yeah. Two of the You know, so during the women's world, I was playing Jaws and I play Jaws a lot. Okay.
I' I've played a lot of jaws.
I would hope so.
I've seen I I I've watched a lot of jaws and I thought I knew every place that that ball can find itself and get stuck at
and boy goodness. I have a screenshot of my face doing this.
What?
Like the whole way, you know, I'm just playing and it's like what? Like the ball got caught somewhere and yeah, it was news to me. in in the design cycle, the development cycle of a game, when a game gets pretty close to like it's like past the design validation, if a playfield's sitting in the lab, people will walk by and just place balls in places that they see ball traps that you might not have seen. And uh it's fun to watch the designer come in the next day and go, "What the freak is all of this?" You're like,
"Time to put up some post and plastics, man. You got to you got to figure it out."
It is it is just like the the the heart just drops. You're like, "Oh, I didn't I I remember on Mando we we found we could give Grou two beautiful uh thinball earrings.
Um they probably had to figure out
of course the new Star Wars has an interesting way to get a ball from being stuck.
And that is to pre-stuck a ball.
Oh inside of Java Java.
That's awesome.
Java tail.
That is a great way.
That's my favorite way to prevent
put a ball there ahead of time and we'll beat you to it.
Yep.
All right. Let's guess. I'm guessing this is bird.
Bird one multiball.
So, we're going to clear the drops, shoot the center shot,
rinse, repeat two or three times, and then you are off to the races.
Excellent.
Kind of whispered.
I sort of like kissed it on the way back.
Yeah, the uh the way. Drop targets, man.
Get it up. Oh,
you know, one of my favorite games with drop targets.
What's that? Foo Fighters.
Sinbat. Oh, Foo Fighters. Yeah. Um, Sinbad. Okay. Not uh not Meteor.
Meteor's so good.
Um,
I I just like I I don't know. I I like I like Sinbad's rule.
Yeah.
With the bonus thing. But Meteor is my favorite spinner. So, but it's because of the drops.
I miss those old games where like there's a million drops and we can control them individually and you can make them sort of dance and stuff. Yeah.
Now, like there's no shot we'd be able to afford something like that for some reason.
It like jumped the the rollover. Maybe
I I don't know
cuz it's not the roll under that makes it count. That just says expect this.
Well, in sequence, but it's like maybe it rattled just enough that the timer ran out.
Oh, that's fair. Wow. That that was a power drain.
Did it drink?
Uh unless it went into the the ball teleported.
Yeah, I blinked and now the ball's over here. All right, get it up there. Back in.
Oh, that is so hard.
That dragon target is in the way. There you go. All right. Yep. Tap it 138.
Excellent work. See what Jared can do.
Uh but yeah, no, Foo Fighters. I I am a huge uh mod up my van.
Yeah,
I uh And that is what the keep them guessing there. Someone's like, "All right, she's going to want to stack a motor. The A. Let's see if the O is all right. The O is typically the more difficult shot here. Waiting for that bonus to cancel itself. Right, ski pass. Excellent work.
Keep the flipper down. Shoot it up. Nails it. And it moved the truck in a more beneficial position so that the back end of the truck is on the other side, which opens up that chaos shot more. All right, he just has to rip that shot. He tilted. My goodness. Does it stay lit? All right, it does stay lit. Ski pass. Excellent. Calm it down. Nails it. Beautiful work. 1 minute 33 seconds.
Yeah. I'm surprised people are going for this chaos multiball thing because it is uh it is not easy.
The alternatives to that would be start raptor multiball, which I feel is kind of a gimme, right? Like you're just shooting in this pretty safe close area. But as we saw, some folks were having trouble getting it all the way through to hit that back target. And then capture a dinosaur, which involves a little bit more stuff. Um, but let's see. Uh, see what we can do with this chaos. It's 1 minute and 33 seconds to match. Neil and Jared are tied one to one going into this. All right, reset the timer. Hands on the buttons. And for those that don't know, you have to spell chaos in order, starting with the C on the left, then it's the H on the T-Rex ramp, the A on the far right ramp, and then the O in the far right orbit, and then the S, which underneath the upper flip ramp. Oh, good stall. How do you even do that? Little tiny baby flips. back flip. So Keith got this pretty handily after missing a few times. He got it with a back flip, which is pretty nice.
Jared also struggled with the C a little bit, but once he got that, he really knocked out that H right into the A. Few miss shots into that O, hit the S right away. had the truck moved right where it needed to be so it wasn't uh too obstructive. All right, you got the seat, buddy. Let's go.
There you go. All right. Oh, and it came right to the right flipper. There's an H. The A. Oh, he nails the O perfectly, but he did not need it. Elizabeth was just saying like that is so frustrating to like nail the hard shot when you didn't necessarily need it.
All right, he just needs the S. Can he do this in two seconds? No, that is a
that is a point for Jared. Oh, that's nice. I didn't realize that. Okay, to keep things moving, Andy was in the background there. He actually said time. so that he wasn't spending too much time, you know, chasing the objective when it really wasn't doing anything for him.
Again, shout out to uh Mountain Dew, uh Stern, and IFPA for sponsoring this event, Stern Pro Circuit Finals. 32 players from across the world. Over the course of 20 events in the past year, everyone battled to be here today for a chance to win $30,000 in prizes and cash. And it's uh a free Stern pinball machine, Stern Pro, if you will. I'm putting my food right here so you don't have to look at it. It does look good. Uh it's a heads up style, so it's all objective based. makes it a lot easier for you folks at home to digest, especially folks that aren't big followers of pinball content. Uh, keeps things moving here, so we're not watching one person play one ball for an hour and a half. And, um, it's best of 11, so you need six wins to move on. And it's six rounds, so three normal rounds, quarter, semi, and then finals. And, uh, I'm excited to see what that finals looks like because some of these battles are getting down to the like actual seconds on who's taking the wins there. So, heck yeah. Uh, I will be joined by Elizabeth Eky, but she is currently eating my quesadin. I'm Jack Danger, uh, international pinball sensation. That's all I got. Okay. Dalton, what's up, my guy? Are you winning?
I haven't played yet. I'm waiting on my winning star.
Are you winning?
Oh, heck yeah.
Dalton, an incredible pimp player. Everyone here is an incredible pinball player. Obviously, they had to work really tremendously hard to get to this point. Uh on the eve of Chicago Pinball Expo, make sure if you are in the Shamberg area to come by the Chicago Pinball Expo. Come check out all the new games. Lots of cool stuff, lots of manufacturers, lots of homebrew. Um my favorite part of the convention is the pre-war pinball machines, which we're talking games from like the 30s with no flippers. Uh, typically no electricity. Dang fun. And, uh, just hang out with some of your favorite designers, artists, programmers, um, electrical folks. Like, everyone's coming. So, uh, we're excited to see you there. We're about to hop into a game of Kong, it looks like. And it looks like the timer's already running. All right. So, we're trying to start pit multiball. And if you'll notice the magnet with that blinking teal light on the left there. They need to hit that several times. Once you've hit it enough, it will start the multiball. And that is the objective. So, let's get right into this here. Neil has started us off. We're already 20 seconds in. You want to try to avoid falling into any of those bucks there because it's just animation and mechanical showmanship time that is just burning down the clock. It is feeding the flipper though, which is uh that's a nice free shot for you. Four more hits to light. Sometimes that slingshot can jump up there and help you out. Oh, he's nailing that shot. Three more. Good call not using that upper flipper. Two more. Actually, that might have given him All right, two more hits. All right, this last hit he can go cash out. Oh no. What are you doing? Good control. All right, tap it. 124. Okay, not bad. So Jared has his uh time to beat. 124 is not terrible. Now, what's cool about this is uh I haven't seen anyone take any sort of different approaches to getting in there. It's all just been brute force like shoot at it. And I wonder if there isn't some sort of play about, you know, maybe trying to plunge into it as often as possible, like drain plunge. There's no ball save on the game. So, and here we go.
Yeah, I was waiting for that back end. Awesome. Stuck on the magnet. Sort of eating up time, but not terrible. Trying to go for a short plunge. All right. Excellent hit. I don't think the skill shot's doing anything beneicial for you. Oh, that might have given him an extra hit. Six more, which means he's got seven shots to make. So, it's six to light, the red arrow above it, and then that is your final shot to hit in order to start the multi. The bridge is guiding the ball down. All right, five more to light. Four more. There's a free little magnet shot. Three. Oh, come on, Magnet. All right, so two more. Okay, one more hit and he's out. Does he have it? Oh, he missed it by two seconds. Oh my goodness. That is what I want to see. I want every round moving forward to be within seconds of each other. That was two seconds off. Oh my goodness.
All right, looks like we have finally completed all of our round ones. Round twos are all set and going. Looks like we even have a round three in the works. Dalton, who was just behind us with his uh fun little cup glasses, will be battling Zach Sharpe. Preston versus Andrew. Danielle versus Andy Bagwell. Looks like Sterling is moving on against Carlos. Jason Werick versus Nick Stein. Jared versus Neil Still. We're going to be following them. Derek versus Bowen and Jack and Josh Sharpe. We are cruising right along here. That's what's cool about the heads up sort of format is it really gets things moving. Uh you're not stuck waiting watching your opponent play for half an hour, 45 minutes on one ball. Um all of this is very achievable. All of this is uh this is you versus the clock trying to do the one thing on the game. All right, we're back in it on Kong. Jared is up and we're going to start Kong Multiball. So, Kong multiball is achieved by clearing the drop targets on the left. See, he's on that little flipper there. He's got to clear it out. He's got one more drop. Oh, it fell down.
Once he clears those drops, it'll light the light on the center ramp and then he is good to start hitting that three times. After the third ramp shot, he has to hit the far right orbit to start the multiball.
All right, there you go. You see the light on the ramp is lit up. Blinking lock one. There you go. There's lock one. Oh, goes for the one time.
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. I'm back now. I hope I am as interesting to listen to as Jack is. I'm probably not, but I'll do my best.
King Kong. Did we just start? Are we in between? I don't know. Okay. Start Kong multiple. As you know, probably from the watching of whatever Jack was doing, uh, you clear the trap targets and then you hit the center ramp three times and then the right orbit once, if that's what you call it. That's the thing about Keith games is that sometimes these shots are hard to name or I suppose about any game really. Okay. So, part of the trickiness is trying to get the ball feed uh to stay up in the drop targets uh without having interacting with a rule that doesn't uh progress towards the multi to all light. So, he is trying to shoot the uh spinner shot that does speed around and as long as you hit the button quickly enough to bring up the the the bridge diverter then you can keep the ball up there. So, you can see him. He hit it then. I'm not sure how you re-qualify that button press. Uh but I know people that do know, so I'll consult later or someone check uh the the tilt forum for me. Okay, once again, he's trying to feed that ball up into the drop target area by shooting the right spinner. Perhaps he's uh giving up on that. Maybe he's just trying to get into the drops. There we go. hits the button. Doesn't get a lot of action up there. That's okay. Oh, yes. I'm very uh no uh dark noir over here, aren't I?
Uses the button again. This game, it has so many little quirks. I think uh playing this game for the first time and not knowing like what you're doing and you're just shooting shots, uh that's like the best way to play this game. And Keith is usually really good about however a player wants to play the game. Um there's a path for that and then there's a different path for kind of forcing the player out of their comfort zone too. But either path works. So okay. Um I wasn't sure when what time was uh to beat. So sorry about about that. Um if you were curious, my quesadilla was indeed delicious. So if you ever go to Interium, I do recommend uh eating a quesadilla. But okay, so I guess I'll just talk more then. Um, I'm Elizabeth Gizki. I do work for Stern as a software developer and I I work on Jaws and DND so far. Um, they were so kind enough to let me stay in Kentucky. So I do work remotely, which is a little rare. Um, but it's worked so far, I think. And it's almost in a good way. Like I think um it it you know working from home you get to focus in a lot more and uh go work at very odd hours just just because you can. Um I'm one of those weird people that does my best work like at 11 p.m. So uh I'm very fortunate I can work from home and be able to do that. So it's been great. But so, uh, yeah. Um, I can just be starting to talk about Stranger Things here. I see in the back. Uh, Stranger Things one of those games that on release was kind of, um, kind of a quiet release. I feel like people didn't, uh, weren't attracted to the game initially. Um, but I was the opposite. I almost liked it better when it was first released and then as more code in there, I was like, what? No, I just want to do like the thing I was doing before. Raymond, thank you for come saving me.
I'm I'm Jack Danger.
Hello, Jack Danger. Um, how how's it been? How's it been going for you here?
Uh, good. Just kind of watching everybody. I don't know what game I'm going to pick or challenge or
Oh, yeah. That we haven't really like dove into that, but I was um I I know ones I would probably not pick. Like I I would stay away from Chaos myself.
Oh, I would save that if I'm down on my last life and I want just extra play time. Okay,
at least you get to, you know,
give her some time in
on the O. All right, so you're not going to start con multiball on Jaws. Uh, but you might start Jaws multiball on Jaws, which might be the thing he's going after. Is he that or he's really missing the stand up targets? Let's see.
Yep, he's going for Jaws multiball. This is one of those multiballs that was a little bit interesting to explain through. But when you're playing, you don't really think about it. When you're actually intentionally going after Jaws Mod,
I feel like a lot of Keith games have kind of windy paths to multiball where you end up getting it. But like if you had to tell somebody to just go for multiball, you'd be kind of like,
well, I guess if you wanted to just go for multiball, I guess you hit this then that and this and the other thing.
Like we had to we had to go through what it takes to catch a dinosaur in Jurassic Park. And that's another one of those things that's like you it's easy. Trust me, just do it.
Like, so he
That sounds like a fun challenge actually through a dinosaur.
It's one of them. You can do it.
Uh Jared smoked through. He did in like 30 seconds.
That was Neil, I think.
Oh, well Jared in a different game, but yes, Neil got to this multi wall extremely quickly, too. Um this one actually there was one more step for the first multi-wall and that you had to ready a barrel by clearing the drop targets on the left.
Oh yeah.
Um in between. So you do have to do that still for Jos Munchall two and three.
But initially the first one also required the drop targets and we found that people were just randomly starting multiball without really knowing why and sometimes they weren't ever starting multiball and they don't know why. So I think that was a good choice. Good job Keith.
Yeah, especially um on the pro where the drops aren't as obvious and they probably don't get hit as much accidentally.
Yeah. Um,
I assume at one point you were supposed to have to ready two barrels and then ready three barrels, but it seems like you only have to ready the barrel once.
Once. Oh, yeah. You're right. Uh, that was never in, but I don't know if that was ever an intention. Okay, we're hitting chum buckets. We're hitting chum lines. He's filled it. He's going to ready his harpoon here. I forgot also that it used to be it was only left orbits I was lit, but now they were kind enough to light the center ramp as well to uh
Oh, that's unfortunate. Um, do you know if can you advance to multiball by hitting the red shots or just the chum buckler?
It's either
there we go. Got him by 12. Nice.
So, I think it's that the shots are worth more, but it's the same amount of progress either way. want to want to confirm blockers.
Maybe Rick did like all the rules on the game and then I did all the modes and multiolots, you know.
Okay.
So, some of the qualifications and things so I'm not as up on
Yeah. You just got delegated like mode mode make the modes cool made the modes cool and then
and then
Rick stitched them all together with Keith's orchestration,
you know.
Yeah. He was the one that made the game work. That's for sure. I've been found out.
Oh, you're good.
No, you're doing great.
I wish I found you before when it was just Jack. Sorry about that. I I was looking around. I'm like, everyone's kind of like actively playing in the tournament or probably wouldn't know uh what to talk about when it comes to pinball. Not that we know what we're talking about.
No, I was leaning on you the whole time.
GG.
Well, I use the restroom.
Okay. I'm going to have to play soonish. I'm facing the winner of Derek and Bowen. I don't know what game
Okay. Okay.
Um yeah, Bowen kind of swept uh Travis in the first round. Got six to zero there.
Um but Travis, I suppose, is more of a calm, take his time.
That's true. That's true.
Yeah. I I saw that he was kind of fighting his
instincts.
Yes. Yeah.
It was a It was a little bit So like Yeah. C definitely this format favors different style play. than what you might normally expect. Oh, Dungeons and Dragons. So, you don't see that every day in terms of tournaments.
First to six, right? Six wins.
Yep. So, Jared is, if this is accurate, is quite
What was the point of that?
What just happened?
Just a really fast plunge. Just a really fast plunge. Oh, dang. All you got to do is start dragging multiple is hit those stand up dragon targets and then the side ramp and the right orbit light to start the multiple unless you're in a mode and that's only
I love the choreography when you hit that it looks like the dragon is shoving it back at you but it's just the physics of the stand up.
It's true and also like this top down view. It really looks like
Yeah. Wow.
He's kind of eating at it. Now on the pro like the dragon head comes down and you know can can block the shots with his head. So it's a little easier on the pro.
One more. It's Drago.
Now is there any way you can hose yourself and not be able to start dragon multiball?
No, you can still make progress and start dragon multiball while you're in a mode. Um it's just you don't have that side ramp. So I wouldn't suggest passing every time.
And the uh don't go in a dungeon. Oh yeah, don't do that. Okay, don't do that. Nice post pass. Oh, a little early. Can use the shield, but then once you use the shield, the ball is not set up for the shot that you need. So, you're going to have an errand to flip to then get the ball under control. And there it is. Easy. Minute 24. Definitely doable.
I'm like, why did that ball come around? I'm like, oh, it's a pro at the one, you know, where it goes in and locks.
That's it. Yeah, that's such a thing. I feel like I've been lucky enough to whenever I play uh Jaws, especially in tournament, it's a premium because like that is what I'm used to and I'm like, what are you talking about? I can't get a 3x machete anymore. Yeah. All right. So, Jared 124 to beat.
Uh, choosing the character can affect this, but uh not in any meaningful way unless you like to use the shield and then Helener would be helpful. But, uh, Ordor, although he's good against dragons, he is not any better at qualifying dragons.
Ah, so he's not good at finding the dragon. All right, halfway there. He's getting some unlucky bounces here. The ball keeps draining on him.
Looks like Neil's start similar to Yeah. What Neil happened to Neil.
Yeah, Neil probably got even a little bit more unlucky with it. It also fed the scoop and the saucers and got two on that. That's nice. All right, one more split. Oh.
Oh, really? Side ramp.
Oh, I would have even forgotten that that was an option.
I I wanted to see it.
Okay. Very nice. With time to spare.
Yeah. Jared needs to win one more to be able to take take over overtake Neil there.
Oh, wow. Mark's already updated our scoring here.
He's on it.
All right. Looks like Jack is back. Good. Oh, yeah.
Jack attack.
Jack attack.
Jack attack.
Well, it was nice talking with you, Raymond. Let's talk Let's do that more often.
I like pulling Ray in for uh the the hold over.
Oh, it was nice. I I not that I was floundering.
What are we talking about?
A little bit,
but he had the good idea of bringing up the uh
chat.
Yeah. Um, it it it would just be everyone uh making fun of us,
telling us that our sound was off.
Yeah. Oh, I got a lot of text messages. Yeah.
Sorry about that.
Um,
didn't didn't know.
Yeah. Shout out to the uh seven people that texted me. Love you guys.
Shout out to the one person that texted me. [Music]
Uh, this is on backhand pinball.
I think we're on Sterns. We're on Stern's
of course this is the pro circuit
which you had to pro circuit event
during the 2024 season playing 20 games across the time of the of a year I believe.
I I believe too let me grab
um yeah before I was I just looked up I'm like yeah I can talk about Stranger Things. Okay, here we go. Uh,
I don't know anything about Jaws, though. Sorry about that.
So, there's a shark named Bruce.
That's true. We named our ours Gary.
All right. Beautiful.
Okay. I think this is a feeding frenzy start. I'm going to guess it's feeding frenzy. They They had uh played uh start jaws multiol before and I think there's only two objectives for this game. I'm hearing from the crowd that the people that are trying to do the start the New York City event like those are going very well.
Yeah, I I can see that. It's that side shot. It's that one side shot. That and chaos, man. I'm telling you.
By the way, your sandwich was delicious. Thank you.
I'm I'm glad that the the fries I hope it didn't cool too quick.
No, I I was trying a few fries here on camera.
Okay, good. I didn't realize it was so It's 1:30 already. We're just having so much fun here.
We got here at like 8.
And yeah, I can't find the stream. I don't know how to do it.
That's all right.
Is it on YouTube or Twitch?
Uh, yes.
Dang. Okay, then I can do it. Oh, yeah. I I mean, you did it. You did it. Stop the clock. Minute 19. Uh, faster than we saw some others. But I think there is some opportunity here for for Jared to uh what's the word? Stick the nail in the coffin.
Uh I'm not seeing it on Twitch, so probably just on YouTube.
Just on YouTube.
Yeah. I There's one objective in this game that is an interesting achievement. Actually, it's an achievement and it's to start feeding frenzy in 30 seconds or close a beach in 30 seconds. It's closing a beach in 30 seconds. Awesome. And that that so this game does have timebased objectives already built into the game. It's a little tricky though because you don't know how much time has passed and how much time you have. So, you just kind of hope for the best. But uh yeah, starting I closing a beach in 30 seconds requires you to get the binoculars,
okay?
Because feeding frenzy will lock you out of adding beachgoers, which will then prevent you from closing a beach.
So, sorry about that. Or you can set your game to hard on feeding frenzy and then you won't have to have feeding frenzy block your progress.
Yeah, don't do that.
So, if anyone is struggling with that achievement, set your game harder.
I like that. It gets easier by making it harder. Yeah, it certainly doesn't block your progress.
Yeah, we came up with that achievement before uh Feeding Frenzy was in that particular place.
Okay.
And then later on I was like, "Hey, Keith, did you know that's like really hard to get that achievement?"
There's a whole hecking post missing here.
You'd think that there's someone something there, but not this time around. Not here. Not in. Oh no.
All right. Looks like we need one more uh set of Santa turrets, I think. We are getting close on time here.
Yeah, this is the last you can tell based off of how many uh orange shots are already lit.
All right, 9 seconds.
There we go.
Oh, and he pushed the table down.
It didn't matter. You got it. Woo. That was close. That was a
5second difference.
Closest on camera. We had a few five seconds there. Y
but that one man to like nail the standups for that.
All right. All right. That's interesting.
Have to secure the table.
Yeah. Secure the that he's moving forward. That was the
Oh, that was the clincher.
Yeah, that was It was five to two.
Props to him. That's great.
So, way to go Jared's rooting for you the whole way.
Jared beat Neil who beat Keith.
Yeah, justice for Keith.
Yeah,
good job, Jared.
I mean, it it could it's it's anybody's game here. Everybody is so good. Very true.
To even get here is a testament uh to to one's skill and uh you know determination on attending all these wacky events.
I'm excited to see Raymond play because I want to I need verification on our theory about going in cold in this event versus you know being comfortable with these machines and how they're playing in this sort of format.
Yeah. It would be interesting to see everybody in round three like how all of those third round buyers how they get along. Um but and and it is a thing these people are really good at at adjusting. The person in my basketball shout out to my basketball coach in high school. Uh the team that adjusts the most wins the most. And that's true for pinball too. Like if you if you're if you are shooting that shot too early or you're only shooting shots and you can't hit standup targets, you're not adjusting enough and you need to you need to get on the you know what I mean?
Got to you got to learn to adapt to your uh environment. Um we have how many do we know how many players are left?
Uh no the unfortunately the bracket where they fill it in is on the other side of that bench.
It's taped to the back side of a bench over there.
Yeah. So we can't It's on a large thing. It's very impressive looking. Uh but from this angle, it is nowhere to be seen. Most they put a mirror over there.
Less than less than 32. Uh more than one,
you know. I thought about I I just got thought about mirrors in pinball
and how important they are sometimes like in theater of magic the mirror to see
to see the the roll through the the gates or the the
I want to know when the mirror got introduced of like I can't see it. I can't see what's going on.
We did something similar on Ghostbusters.
I was going to say
with a piece of plastic to let it reflect on there.
Yeah. And that's all that plastic is doing, right? Is just the reflection. just letting you see what's going on back there.
So, why was it a plastic versus a mirror? Was it just too distracting with a mirror or
I wonder
maybe more expensive with a
like dirt? It probably is more noticeable when it's dirty.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that too. It It is fair. It's like um even on on the theater of magic at some Yeah, a lot of times I can. I don't know. It's just as long as you kind it's usually not like angled correctly either and you can kind of get like a glimpse of a edge of an insert and you're like that's all I need. That's all I need.
Um but yeah, I was playing Ghostbusters yesterday actually and that's what got me thinking of like that's just a plastic and it's not doing anything else except show you
letting light bounce off of it
which uh is so is so smart. I bet they were really excited about that one.
The internet is letting us know that 10 people have been eliminated and 22 people are left.
Oh, thank you internet and thank you for pulling up the chat.
It's great. I mean, I'm seeing some stuff I don't want to read. Like they pointing out like wet spots in people's t-shirts, but it's, you know, it's not us, so I don't care.
As long as it's not. I'm wearing a gray shirt.
I'm like, I did just hawk an entire chicken sandwich in about a minute and a half.
Honestly, speed.
I should have Oh, where was the [Music]
Let me talk about this shirt. Where does this shirt come from?
Uh, Stern Pinball. You can uh hit up the I don't know if you
This is new.
Oh, it's an old design. Wild pinball record.
That's It's always fun to see the different I got the vanilla shirts.
Okay.
Uh that you got to support the logo.
But there's so many designs, especially on the back of these shirts that you're not yours. You got the design on the front.
Okay.
But uh yeah, it's always interesting to see what they what they do with the backs of shirts.
Yo, shout out Ster Pinball for giving me free shirts. Yeah, give me more shirts
and talk to Rebecca. She'll hook you up.
Honestly, yeah, actually I have on the point. She has given me like all of my shirts.
Hell yeah.
I need one more. When I come up to Stern, I people comment on Elizabeth. I have only seen you in five shirts and I'm like giving
I only have five. Yeah,
but I do kind of have a cycle. I have my Louisville shirt, I have my Northern Kentucky shirt, and I have my Stern my three Stern shirts. So,
all right. Bow and Karen stepping up to start hardwired. Again, this is shoot every shot once indicated by those little white blinking circles you see there. Once you've hit all those, shoot the scoop. Done.
Oh man, that scoop. Don't you love the the I mean, you have crank it up lit, right? You got that scoop lit and you know you got to hit it.
Look how quick he left the timer.
That's him. That's him. We've seen that. All right, so uh time to shoot some shots, right? standups of the 72 seasons, which we haven't seen on stream yet.
Oh, true. We haven't seen 72. Oh.
Oh, man. That happens.
Weird. All right, we're still without a shot. There you Okay, we got the right orbit. So, we need the left orbit, the grave markers, the left ramp. There's the right ramp. Left ramp. Oh, I knew he wanted it.
It was It would have been a good combo.
Yeah, but
get some Lady Justice. Okay, so we just need the grave markers and the left ramp.
That left ramp's a little deceiving. Just kidding.
I I was about to say the dre markers are a little deceiving. Keith had had some struggles with that one. There we go. Very fast. Such force. He lowered the the
Oh my goodness. Under a minute decimates the table on his way over.
That's pretty good. I need some stats on the amount of time it on average takes for this objective.
I mean, 52 seconds feels quick.
Well,
maybe
uh yeah, it's certainly no 57
spices. Spices.
Shout out to Hines,
our future, uh hire me, uh or or sponsor me or whatever the word is.
I'm a Hines influencer.
Oh yeah. What up? What up?
What up, Johnny Five? Now we got the chat involved.
Yeah, we can read we can read chat now.
All right,
everybody.
Um, what do you guys think about the heads up format versus like your standard scorechasing format? Um,
you don't want my opinion, but I'm going to give it to you anyway. I prefer this.
As a player, I definitely Well, I don't know. As a player, do you prefer this?
I think both. I like viewing it and playing it. Like, I don't want to sit and watch you beat the crap out of me. like that I know I have a chance when I do this.
I'll say this, I think uh I love I love pin golf uh tournaments. I love watching pin golf tournaments in particular in terms of all objective based.
Um I've never seen one that's headtohead. I've never seen a a other than heads up tournament. But that's different. That's different as in in terms of pin golf because I normally I would say pin golf is my favorite format.
But for two one-on-one I don't think I would want to do it.
That's right. Yeah,
Derek. Derek's already uh two shots in.
Oh, little fumble there, but he's blasted through that bonus.
Yeah. Get through this animation. We don't want to see it, even though it's beautiful.
Super digestible. Yeah.
All right. Where's he going? Left ramp. I knew it.
Oh. Oh,
snake action.
I knew it.
All right. He just needs left ramp, left orbit. Oh, he
Oh, two more. He has a minute.
Minute to win it.
Okay. Come on, Derek. You got this, buddy.
Okay,
that ball has some like wicked back spin.
He must That must have been just a minute.
It's not a minute 52.
I didn't see the I didn't see He was covering the minute mark. Yeah, bummer.
Wait, doesn't he have
No, it was I think we're going to say he wrote it down.
But wait, he
No, I think I think Mark might have wrote it down. Oh,
we have the memory of a goldfish chat. So, sorry.
Where am I? Who am I? Look at these names.
Yeah. Oh gosh. Names. Every time I come back up to stream, I'm like, y'all, y'all need to like carry around your Slack icon with you because, you know, I like Tom, what are you doing with eyes, you know, or whatever?
Like, you know. Yeah. He's got his like where's your top hat thing and your round glasses or whatever. Uh yeah, everyone looks so different in person. Also, like the average height at Stern is like 6'11. It's so tall.
I mean, I'm huge and Kyle is taller than I am.
Yeah, that must be a new feeling for you being shorter than somebody.
It's like an inch. So, it's not that big a deal.
Okay. Oh, yeah. Kyle. Okay. You're not
It makes It makes hugging very comfortable.
Oh, that's good. And we give so many hugs.
It's a lot of hugs. We're We're a family. We're a family at
the end of my meetings. That's what we do. It's just very high.
Soft casual high fives. There's not even noise being made. You're just sort of touching palms.
I'm I'm virtual. I'm remote. I'm still I'm like, "Yes,
still holding your hand up."
That's good.
Keep it weird. All right.
No, that's what we do. But yeah, it's true. Especially for me, I I cameras make people look really short usually because it's like set above them and it's like looking down and uh yeah, seeing him in person, I'm like, "Whoa, Pacho, you're like normal height." because his camera sits really high. Um, so his MXV. Holy cow.
Oh, he keeps his Yeah, in the ceiling. It's like way back there. And Mike is a not short person. But I'm telling you guys, in my point of view, everyone is 2 feet tall.
Wait, are you are you sitting up straight?
I must be like all legs if I'm
Yeah. Well, um I don't sink in as much.
I Are you calling me heavy? You know, I I sit lightly.
All right, let's move on to listen to paddle.
All right.
Okay, we're going. I'm guessing paddic. I'm guessing this is
since we've already got rescues going. Looks like Andy's chasing the padox.
The padox.
See, you're playing Danielle. Yeah.
Oh, okay. That's the first first stream for us. That's nice.
Danielle,
we're we're waiting for a rescue.
All right,
we got it.
Now you shoot the yellow guys.
Yeah. I know this.
Oh, I didn't give it to him. What?
Well, it's not that it didn't give it to him. He didn't deserve it.
Yeah, you didn't want to.
Okay, now it's lit.
Oh, tough shot on the right for now. But you don't really want to time it through. That just takes time.
Good. Oh, weirdly satisfying save there. Okay,
just a casual double danger.
56 hours. What a go. You see, this sort of uh format only works with skilled players and that they know when they did the thing. You know what I mean?
Fair.
Cuz like I we were talking about that. I was like, what happens if you didn't know that you uh needed to hit that ramp one more time? You know what I mean?
I'm I'm waiting for someone to mess up. It hasn't happened yet. In fact, people have caught themselves, which is pretty great. Um Chad brings up a good point. I need a Mountain Dew.
It's true. I am Oddly, subliminably,
dude. I'm duelist.
Wanting a Mountain Dew. Uh, I just want my tongue to feel like it's about to
sizzle.
I want to hear.
Shout out to Mountain Dew Stern and IFPA. Thank you for sponsoring Stern Pro Circuit Finals. By the way, I designed that logo.
Really? Yeah.
No, it looks good. What's the uh the uh the the is that an insert of some? Is that the playfield? Is that field? Okay. I only just
like if you got in close there's like light gray slingsh
I made that uh well before I worked at
see that now man. And you're hearing it here folks inside scoop from the man himself.
Me I'm the guy
and the wo man.
I need a delicious bubbly beverage possibly green. I need to pay attention to these rescue shots.
Oh, yeah. Here we go. Smattering of
Oh, they're all next to each other.
Oh, get up there.
I mean, that's the thing. When you have them all lit over there, you're like, you got to choose. You can't You can't do them all.
Don't give up, Daniel.
Shoot the left ramp.
You're not out of it yet. Don't give up.
He's like,
I feel like he's given up, but he wasn't even out.
This is a a weird thing. He's got a multiball now, so now he's going to have to
All right. Does he did have to have two more shots on that standard target and then the the dinosaur dog? [Music]
Man, I do you remember where you were when you realized the direction of the the truck
changed the direction of where you went on the map?
I don't think I was alive when those games came on.
Yeah, I was 2 years old.
Uh in diapers.
Yeah.
No. Yeah, I remember it was at Cincinnati when I realized it.
Okay.
Shout out. What did you think the truck was doing otherwise?
I mean, I thought it was just progression towards your T-Rex multiple, you know, and like it didn't I It's just a nice It's a It's a nice touch that it didn't need to do.
Yeah.
Map directs to go.
Yeah.
I also love that like getting through the map isn't the end of the map. You've got to work your way backwards now back to leave the island.
I have never spoiler alert. I don't think my wrists could last that long playing a game. They would fall off.
That's right. That's right.
I I am a uh I know this offends some people, but I do wear gloves when I play pinball.
Are they fingerless?
Fingerless gloves. Padded. They're weightlifting gloves.
Yeah.
Uh my my wrists are so I was in percussion in high school and uh they it is just a lot a lot of this a lot of that.
So, do you do it because of yourself supporting yourself on the bar? Yeah, it's the it's all of the nudges and things that I'm doing. It's it's like all that impact on on my
tendinitis.
Yeah, carpal tunnel.
Carpal tunnel.
Something's going on with these.
Pinball's an impact sport,
honestly. Yeah. So,
I mean, it's like this in football. Like, it's it's like right there.
Yeah. For top impact sports. Uh yeah. No, that's why I wear gloves. It's for medical reasons. Uh not because I think I look cool.
She has very slimy palms.
Uh yeah, it it it makes a huge difference. It doesn't make me play better. It makes me play longer. There you go.
And for these games, that matters.
All right, Andy Bagwell is up on Jaw.
I'm guessing we're doing It's either
I bet it's start Jaws multiball.
It might be that based off of those words right there. Uh or he's really bad at hitting the stand up target.
All right, so you start Jaws multiball by hitting
you first hit the chum bucket and that activates the the chum line with the red shots. So you either keep shooting the chum or shoot red shots to fill in the chum line, which he just did. And this lights the left orbit and the center ramp because we got a little baby mode here. This is one of those things that we made easier after a while. Um it it used to just be the left orbit and now it's center ramp and left
baby mode.
Yeah. I say I say now it's this it's been this way since almost the beginning.
So now that he's hit that,
he's got that fin. Boom. Nails it first try. Now he just has to a yellow shot to start the multiball. The so easy.
Yeah.
Boom.
113.
But did he stack in scars
points left on the table?
Boom. Boom. Boom.
Boom. Boom. Boom. Want
to see something permanent?
Boom. My I have a niece. She's like two. She's She's three now. But uh she she loves Jaws. She loves two things about Jaws. And
Oh, the pinball machine, not the boo.
Yeah, the the specifically the game. She likes two things about draws the pinball machine and it's the dog
and the boom boom boom.
Yeah. Boom boom boom.
She she like in her little voice.
And I'm like and oh and yeah in in response to the shark comes up you know it's like oh what does a dog say? Woof woof. What does a cat say? Meow. What does a shark say? But yeah, she is only interested in Pippet and I've been very good about hitting drop targets.
I I am the best at it.
Uh, bonjour flippers.
Uh, Viva love resistance.
Jeapel Jac.
Um, Baguette.
She She's learning. She's learning.
Perry. Uh,
lean.
Uh, ballet.
Okay. Ballet. Is ballet.
Déja vu.
Oh, is that French?
Wee.
I learned how to say a lot of swear words, but I'm realizing I probably shouldn't say that.
Uh, not in any language, you know.
All right. So, uh, already taking some time here having to fill in this chum line, struggling to find these red shots. Now that the red shots are in a little bit harder area, he's opt to just shoot the chum,
which lit his harpoon. But we are coming up on that that minute 13 mark.
So he's got
I don't know if he has
10 seconds left.
But I I He's zoned in though. He's not even looking at that. He's not looking back to see how much time he's got left. He's just focus.
He doesn't care. And time.
Yeah. Okay, now he knows.
I like how Andy is calling. He He's like tding and playing at the same time.
Uh, classic. I think that's his default now.
Classic Andy.
The only way he does know, [Music]
I basically learned all of my French from Flight of the Concords. Fufa.
Yeah. No, no, I I don't have it. I took Latin in high school, so
Oh, you took Latin?
I know. Yeah. Uh on slavist canis. Am I right? Kanis. Slavis canis.
This is a family friendly street.
Do you know what it means?
No.
Slave dog.
Oh, okay.
And we all know it. We all know it.
Well, we know five different ways to say I I want to fight you. But only and we don't know the we don't know anything else.
I want to fight you.
Colors. Uh how how you doing today? No.
Eurior la. That's eyes, ears, mouth, and nose in front.
Saw Wisconsin.
All right, look at this bracket.
Filling in quick. It's It's after that first round. We are in between two and three. Two and a half.
Zack McCarthy, Steve Bowen, and Arvid are all waiting for their turn to actually play at all. And uh we have a theory that like going in cold may not be the best uh thing for them. Quidd quidski.
Quidski,
which means who knows in Latin.
Not me.
All right. What are we doing here?
Oh, we are trying telekinesis. So, looks like he's got one of the targets he needs. So, it's the two targets on either side of the left.
Came backhanded, but he couldn't get that smartly on the flipper there. Tries again. No. Shoots the orbit.
He doesn't like it.
What gave it away?
All right, let's see. Good bounce and direct. Bam.
I'm liking the Latin in the chat here. My people. Hello.
Chatting in Latin.
C. I don't know what yes is in Latin actually. I think it's C.
C makes sense.
I think it's C. Jeez. Uh, backhand. That very early.
Easy backand. Easy backand.
And once you find it, heck yeah.
And on some games you can actually backhand to ramp enough to make it through, especially on the pro.
Yeah. tougher on the premium as we said. And now this is a little rules knowledge of yes, you can keep making progress towards your multiball
during uh upside down. Yeah.
So it's only affecting the standard.
You just have to know that you hit the thing.
Yeah. It's the it's the OG lights out mode from John Wick.
Oh, right. Yeah. From uh Jonathan Wick.
Yes. Mr. John
Wick. John Wick.
Oh, that was safe.
Little flippable fumble. with them.
We're blasting through. Oh, it took a minute for the bonus to kick in there. All right. That would have been weird if he could hit that somehow.
Okay, there you go.
And this will only be his second lock. Yeah.
Oh, it looks like Chad gets the choice of games. So, uh, me message what game you want to see in the chat here.
All right. Early backhand.
All right, one more ramshot and he is out of it.
Oh, and you get that tasteful sound effect.
Our locks hard. Yeah. So, you have to light the lock every single lock versus just hitting it and spamming it three times,
right?
Come on, bro. Shoot the
I I think it was Jerry that did this game. I assume Jerry only did every game ever for sure. He He's Yeah, he's been the guy.
Like a trivia, if someone asked who has worked on the most games, it's Jerry.
It's Jerry.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Is there a live bracket for people to pull up somewhere?
Oh, production walked away.
Ah, fraud.
He Oh, man. Andy I think Andy's past the point of being angry now.
He's just Yeah, he's just going to do it until he does it.
And he's the first go. You have to finish. There's no walking away when you're first.
Hey, Mark, is is there a link to follow the standings at all?
Production will be posting a link in chat to follow along. [Music]
Okay, thank you.
Man, I love this purple uh pink ombre. It's very Stranger Things. And that's not something that's like from the show. It's very much this pinball machine having that color situation
scheme. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's
like a 80s pink grid that should be behind you uh for your school photo.
Oh, yeah. With the lasers. I I Yeah, I was there, man. I was there.
Wait, you were there?
I'm I'm older than most people in this building
combined.
It's true.
800 years old.
I'm a vamp.
Oh, all right. Going to shoot some N. We're going to drain.
He didn't like the haul.
Yeah. Got 10 time to do it. No problem.
Uh but that is the drain target. If this were um attack from Mars, that that would be the T.
Oo. Yeah.
You know the T target,
right? Is it for Marxian?
Is it the T target or the eye target that drains?
You know the one.
Now I'm I don't know.
Morris, chat, help me out, please.
I I feel like it's the T. Oh, misses that. You just sound like a like a a zenial talking about drama.
What's the tea?
As long as I don't sound like an alpha.
Yeah,
I can't tell what is going on with y'all. Sorry. Sorry to all the alphas out there.
Cappuccino ballerinas.
Skippydoo, Bob.
I I just insulted five different.
And what's wrong with Ohio? Okay. I like Ohio.
Ohio's pretty cool. Yeah,
that's where um Debo's from.
Man, just can't find that left ramp.
All right, line it up. It's in the sweet spot of the flipper. There it is.
There you go.
All right, still has time. Has a has a minute 30.
Oh, yeah. We still got time.
I've been practicing my flash cards.
Oh, gross.
I heard that from here.
Hey, Tilt Dose gets bonus pro move.
Oh, he's right back in it. He's not letting that till five settle down at all.
Tilt again. Tilt again.
Wait, what ball are we on?
Five. E. All right,
we've seen seven.
We've seen seven.
All right, it still goes. He needs his left. There we go. And then his ramp.
Okay,
there it is. One more. And uh he's got
he's got time. He's got 20. He's got 49 seconds. That's it. Oh, is this it? Is this it? Back in it.
Control it. Control it. Breathe. Daniel.
And oh, early.
That was a rattle.
Good bounce.
And tip over and boom. Plug it. Ended up being pretty close. Ended up being pretty close.
Nicely done.
Yeah. Bonus screen. But hey, tilt. No bonus.
Yep.
Tilt. No bonus.
Tilt the bonus away. I'm pretty sure there's no rules against that.
Of modern sterns. What's your favorite bonus screen?
Deadpool.
Yeah,
cuz it's got the meltdown.
Oo, the the meteor style. Yes, all the little nicy clips.
Oh, it's so good.
In general, Deadpool is one of my favorite just how bonus works
cuz it's so simple. I know exactly what affects bonus and it's, you know, the combos which are the weapons that
Chimmy Chung is and whatever the other.
Big fan. Big fan of J.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, you win. That's it. That's it's the best bonus.
Sorry about it. Um Yeah, I can't think of a better one.
Yeah, most most of the time they're meant to be, you know, get through it.
Yeah, you're trying to spam through it where like Deadpool makes you want to wait
so you can get that that like ear tickle.
You know, when you're playing an old stern and the game's just screaming at you.
Love it.
Just like the chip is just hurting.
You're like, does it go higher? It's like,
oh, it goes high.
It does. You're like, "Wait, there's more." I love it. I Yeah, when when a game screams at me, I know I'm doing something good. Although my mom um in she she plays the shark is broken mode a lot. They they got the topper and she's like, "I I I I know I beat the mode because the flippers applauded for me. They applaud the flippers. They applaud. That's what it's doing when uh
Yeah. So, like when you destroy the ring and you you you go in and do that and the game just freaks out. It's not freaking out. It's a flotta.
It's clapping for you.
Flippers.
Elvra does the same thing with Gapa Angry. When you beat it,
oh yeah,
smile.
Oh, just very much applauding.
Tilt champions. Great idea. Yeah, that game that game's full of that game's full of hits.
Tilt champion. Oh, yeah. For the best award. I've been I've been asked by someone. Shout out to Greg if you know who you are. Uh sorry. Uh, I did ask if we could put Tilt Champion into other games, but um it's kind of a Deadpool special.
Yeah. And it like in theory encourages
hurting the game a little bit.
But it's also it's just like certain games have a more serious vibe. Like John Wick, it would be not applicable themewise, right? So we'll let Deadpool sit with the the best all of it. the Golden Girls game we're working on though. I can see
Wait, this isn't live, right? Can you hit that button?
Yeah.
Okay. Anyways, yeah, Golden Girls.
Uh, I watched a three-hour retrospective on gold.
Oh my god, that's awesome.
Yeah, I I do that. I do that. I I did that.
On the point here?
No, I just I love long form YouTube videos apparently and I just go and I'm like, three hours? All right,
I'm in.
Give it Give it here. Yeah, that and uh I don't know, a bunch of like 80s TV shows and 90s sitcoms and things. Uh and that's what I do with my time.
I remember I had to sleep at my studio a couple nights ago cuz I worked too late and I just didn't want to. It was like 2 or 3:00 in the morning. I'm like, I'm just not going to drive home. And so I needed something on and Twitch runs the show Elf on repeat. And uh man is that show inappropriate. Holy crap.
I haven't seen anything about it. I I haven't watched that retrospective.
It's uh it's a lot.
I'll be looking it up.
Look it up.
Check out Al.
Yeah.
Alien life form.
Old TV shows, man. There's a show called The Secret World of Alex Mack.
Oh, yeah.
And then you know that one.
She was like a liquid metal.
Yeah. She her she had so many superpowers. He had like telekinesis and she could zap things, but her goto power was turned into a puddle. Yeah.
And I'm like, jeez.
Of all the things you can do.
I mean, she's like having to fight face off someone and fight them. It's like, yeah, I'll make them slip on my tuttle.
Oh,
you know, and it's like, you have electric powers.
Yeah, you can move things with your brain. What do you do?
Yeah. Well, they they they always have to um you know, nerf their powers for for for stories to happen. Yeah, that's the problem with like anime, superhero movies, comic books. It's like, what do we do when power level is just insane?
When it's crept too high.
Yeah.
You know what you do? You sponsor the Stern Pro Circuit like Mountain Dew.
Thanks, Mountain Dew.
Do the do. Do you
I I do. Do
you?
Yeah. Yeah, dude.
Uh
uh. Yeah.
Yeah. Throwing back to old school Mountain Dew from the 90s.
Okay.
Do you remember?
Where it had like the styrofoam around the glass or was that way too old for you?
Listen, again, I'm old. So, like Mountain Dew used to come in this like green glass canister where the label was actually foam that they heat treated to
uh Anyway.
Oh, I want that. Um,
you don't want that. It'll poison you.
Well, if it's still around.
Oh, I mean like eating the foam. It's probably not.
Oh, yeah. That, too.
All right. It looks like we're shooting for the pit.
Yep.
Oh, yep. Okay. I I was thinking drop targets. I really was. I I thought he I thought he was aiming for drops.
The pin.
All right. Pin. Pit. It is like double the amount of usual pit shots. Usually, it's four, but in this case, it's eight
or seven, maybe. Might be seven. It's more than usual.
Yep. Because when I play this game, that's what I'm doing is just hitting those stand up targets right there
a whole day.
That's what I do. Stand up all day.
Oh, hello there.
Oh, I love the Ah,
I thought he was going to do it again.
I have taken a look at that that specific magnet coach.
Mountain Dew started as a mixer for whiskey.
I said this before. People looked at me like I was crazy, but that's that's also just my ambiance about myself. All right, one more to start.
I think what's happening is you're making stuff up and it's becoming a reality.
That too. Uh you I can never I I don't know. I don't trust anything I say.
1 minute and 10 seconds. Not bad.
No, like 60% of the things I say are 100% accurate. So,
I think there's a Black Mirror episode about that.
Um, internet, we're here at Interarium in Shamberg with the Stern Pro Circuit Finals. 32 players from around the world who came here from battling over 20 events the past year trying to win $30,000 in cash and prizes. That includes a brand new Stern pinball machine, a pro if I'm not mistaken. Um, but yeah, this is a heads up format, so everything's objective based. Diella here is trying to do what Andy just did in a quicker time than 1 minute and 10 seconds.
Now Andy did have some I won't say luck, but a bit of kindness from the game where the sling was helping him out. So does the magnet. Danielle is having to work for each pitch shot.
The magnet is not cooperating.
Yeah, it's he's he's making it work.
Although, holy crap. He's like
I know that's what I'm telling you. That was his first miss here. One more.
Oh, he hasn't drained.
Go home.
Get it. Get the thing.
44.
That was good. That's a new record. Maybe
Danielle
doesn't beat the 28.5, but
all right. Nicely done.
Oh, I speak thing into existence, says uh the weirdo. Thank you.
Thanks. The weirdo.
The weirdo. The Berto.
Uh yeah. No, that is also true. That is for sure true. Yep. I say things and then they become I am a programmer. That is what we do.
True.
He is an architect of reality. It is interesting. Uh you have to be very careful about what you say though because if you monkeys call situation sometimes I say things and I'm like oh I didn't mean it like that. And when I when I say that I mean coding. Uh yeah. When you're programming these machines you got to be explicit on on
Oh, I'm sure
on what you're telling.
You can't leave anything up to interpretation or the game will just go nut.
Yeah. It'll be like Yeah. No, I'll do exactly you as you say. Grows devil horns
and uh Yeah. It's always Oh, there this one time I I was on D and D and this was with the the dragon head and um I I I kind of reversed some things and reversed some logic on what was supposed to be happening. But the dragon head, you know how it's supposed to point downward and spit out balls. Yeah. This one ever so slowly gets his head up to me. I literally take a step back and I was like, whoa,
it's possessed.
I was like, okay, there. I can't remember if it kicked it out, but I'm like, that was hilarious. Just the slowest like, you know what? I'm going to take this.
I'm taking you out.
All right. Um, we are on the uncanny X-Men. Uh, it doesn't look like we're on the Sentinel multiball. So,
yeah, looks like
I'm guessing we're doing start uh to meet my X-Men. So,
the stuffs
hitting standups around
standups. Stuffs. Cory's stuff.
Wait a second.
It all makes sense. Dude, what's the I forget the X-Men thing.
Dude, Fixed. Okay, cool. Anyways, oh, I should we shouldn't talk about him anymore. Don't Don't talk.
Yeah. Oh, Andy.
Uh
um so yeah, what we're trying to do is you're hitting the uh halfinch targets around the ramps and hitting them enough will light some of the ramps to bring you to Cerebro. Three three of those will have you to meet my accident. There it goes. Yeah, I always forget about the danger room ramp also counts towards the spray room.
Now you see I saw maybe probably I kind of missed it because I have my eyes closed, but uh I saw Andy before draining the ball intentionally because he knows that there is a skill shot in this game that
closer to it.
Yeah, it does a whole round of standups and shots.
So, uh classic MXB style perk there of everything gives you something. They're saying that Mark is randomly muting us to make sure that they're paying attention. Yeah, this
maximum production.
Yeah, shout out to Mark to being the best.
I thought we got here early, but
I first thing I came in here was like, I'm glad you're doing this, man, cuz I can't stand setting this crap up anymore.
Yeah, I saw him last night uh setting up here. And uh I mean, that's the commitment that we have here. The people behind the scenes. I was here Monday to make sure the games were even over here.
I was here a year ago.
I was here what?
Uh making sure that the following year was going to work.
Yeah, true.
And that the quesadillas tasted amazing.
I wish I knew. I wish I knew what they tasted like.
Yeah. Yeah.
Uh the skill shot uh that you want for Cerebro, you see how the left ramp is blinking blue? That's the skill shot. So full plunge uh and then shoot the left ramp. Shoot the left ramp.
Shoot the left ramp.
Shoot the left ramp.
That's some game, right? That call out. Shoot the left ramp.
No, you're you're thinking
beat the black knight.
Yeah, shoot the black knight.
Give me your money.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Two slaps, my guy.
Johnny, two slaps. It's Johnny Tuesday.
JB J. All right, more standups.
John's good people. A great hot dog chef.
Ah, hits it late there. Gets it for free. There it is.
Oh, another one. Another one.
I'm telling you, the danger room is where it's at.
Oh, it crept out.
That was some good progress, though. I wonder if you have 2x and you hit a stand up, does that 2x progress?
Probably not.
Probably not. Probably not. All right. Oh, good hit. Good smackarooni. Oh, man. That cooked around there. Oh, dude. This is wasting your time.
Oh, good dream. Yeah.
Smart. Smart. Especially you get back into the uh skill shot opportunity. Misses it there. But he already has a lot of progress on the stand up targets. Unless Could the stand up progress not carry over? I don't know.
What to do for a conduct bar?
That'd be a good theme. Is there a stand up over there? Yeah, there's a stand up over there. That might hit it.
There's one there. There's one there. And there's one there.
Now I know. So there's And there's one there.
You guys don't get to know, but
you can't you can't see what I'm pointing at. So imagine you're looking at the playfield, right? So there's one here. That was close. I didn't think he had it. Andy felt like he was so fast,
but uh it was that danger room. It was the It was the
milk in that target in there really quick.
Yeah, I think that that 100% made the difference.
That's huge. Huge.
Oh.
Oh, and we're full face.
Glad to see you here.
The uncanny X-Men. What a game.
One might call it uncanny. Um, so how are you enjoying yourself so far, Elizabeth?
Uh, you know, uh, I'm glad to be here and having a thing to do. I was afraid during this expo they're like, "Yeah, you know what? What What are you doing for expo?" And I'm like, "Floating, just going to be here. Going to be there
walking around."
So, I like that I'm supposed to be right here in this room.
Shaking babies. I will say, um, this is going faster than I thought it would. like not in this theme of time, but in the understanding of time.
I mean, we're certainly seeing more games. We're we're seeing upwards of five times the amount of games being started and ended.
Um like uh Josh Sharpe was, you know, optimistic that we would be done around 11.
Uh there was a bet on over under uh 2:00. I think uh
this go this goes until 4. I I think but it is going quick. Elizabeth is like
that's fine as long as I can sneak away for a very Jerry Stay Stay in the office a little bit longer.
Oh
yeah. Do you
No, it's not fine. It's fine.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
I can This It's not a problem.
No, it's actually fine. He has other things to do anyway. I I would have been stealing this time. Uh, but yeah. No, there's a there's a team over there. There's people.
All right. Better than being in the office. No way, dude. I love being anywhere.
I mean, most I'm really used to people. It's a treat to be able to go to the office and talking to people in person, but like for me, it's like I'm very much it's so normal just to be over Zoom that I I don't see there's not a real difference for me. Like I'm I have perfected the art of communicating across cameras as you see here now. Thumbs up in the chat if I if I nail it. Um,
Bon
Bon. All right. Andy Bagwell.
Jetpack or bird. What do you think?
I'm guessing jetack.
Jetack because those drops would have been gone by now. Oh,
I mean just plunged.
We're birding out here.
I feel the bird.
Feel the bird. Get it. Oh. Oh. Weird side flip. Better than being in the office, right?
My office has 50 pinball machines. Yeah,
we got a lot of pinball work.
Some of them y'all haven't even seen.
Mine has five, but four of them are on the ground.
Okay.
And leaning against the wall and hanging from the ceiling.
Amodo came by my studio really late last night and picked up my homebrew to bring to the homebrew section of the Marco booth.
Oo, I want to see that. If you guys want to see the thing that got me hired and understand that anyone can get hired.
Yeah. Uh I do feel bad when people ask me like what do I do to get hired or like what did you do to get hired?
I didn't make I didn't make a homebrew. I I I I beat Keith at Dolly and that's
all that's all that matters.
There's several entrances, right? You know,
but uh be a good person, I think, is the is the is a a good start, I think. I think. And uh liking board games if you're if you're doing
Oh, yeah. Board games go a long way. If you're trying to get in nice with the software, too.
Yeah. If if you're Yeah. All right, guys. Locks lit. Is this the first one? I'm losing losing my my attention span a little bit. This is I'm back.
Yeah.
What?
Three more to light something we don't care about. All right. Oh, he is not getting that.
Yeah. Backhanding. It's just you think it's there and it's not. It's
looked like Jared was hitting it pretty well.
Yeah, but Jared is like so good, dude. So good.
But uh yeah, that ball is bouncing around the playfield. And
there it is. That's two.
All right, one more. Split the difference right there.
Can he do it?
Ah, it doesn't doesn't find the drop there. Oh, it does. Just
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Sling. Can he will he do this with under three minutes?
Oh, it'll be close with this backhand.
Oh, man. Under three. Come on, buddy. You got this, Andy. Yeah, exactly. Hurry it up. Let's go,
dude.
He keeps trying the back end. And it keeps
This is a good game to play. Stall, I'll say that.
Okay,
actually, yeah. Put it in the uh swamp or uh what what is this? The scuba hole.
That's not the swamp. You were talking about
the scuba hole. There you go.
There you go.
Under three.
Under three. It was close. But yeah, get in the car.
Do the start any multiballs first.
It's interesting. Tra also the lock or uh on the premium.
Oh, on the premium. Yep. Yep.
It's interesting having I mean you played stall ball, right?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. What What games have you played stall in? Um, I don't recall because the last few times I played stall ball, I'm pretty sure I was.
It's usually the case. Invisible. That is an often case. Yeah.
Uh, I I remember mine. I did win. I got a big old art thing.
Okay.
And it was on Theater Magic.
Oh, wait.
It's a pretty good saw one.
So, the trunk in a couple of places
and the uh hidden
and the the basement. Yeah,
that's pretty. Oh, and the uh tiger saw magnet thingy.
Oh, true.
Yeah, there's some secret stalls, but yeah, mostly the truck.
Oh, sorry.
Locks.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Danielle has to be almost 3 minutes and he's already got his first lock ready.
Good progress here.
Don't try to back in, guys. Stop. Stop doing this.
You're not Jared. You know,
from a fly is tough. Yeah. Dirty. Dirty.
That was sloppy, but it counts. Tip it over.
All right. Got two for one. It's a deal.
Stall ball on Labyrinth barrel ball. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Bowen was talking about that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they they have it like built into the software.
There you go.
All right. Another lock there.
Have it on Guardians. We did on Guardians once.
Oh, yeah. Guardians. There's like three spots
with the the drop target and Groot.
Yep.
On Groot.
I am.
All right. So, Dell is halfway there timewise and just three shots away from completion.
Got 1 minute and 30 left.
Two shots away from completion.
Oh, that would that should have been
nail it.
There it is.
All right. Backhanded.
Backhanded. Yeah, you got it, bro.
Dirty is green.
Good job, Danielle.
All right, blew blew the uh the time there. Easy.
Oh, my phone was covering the uh
So, we uh that that brings them up to five. Five to two.
I think it's 5 to2.
So, one more
then. If Danielle wins the next one, that is a W Dell.
All right. Who else do we got? Okay, so
Oh, stall ball barrel balls on Dune as well. Oh, nice.
Yeah, good.
I'm excited for uh Raymond Dickerson versus Bowen. Eric Stone versus Jared. Oh, man. All these are great battles.
Yeah, Wick Stall. I would not recommend. That is a long game of stall.
Oh, yeah.
Crate, crate, crate,
crate. Yeah.
Have you heard of my Lord and Savior uh crate?
Especially on a pro, dude.
Yeah.
Open and ready. nothing blocking that thing.
But yeah, no, it would be uh I I'm interested to see how a barrels of fun did it for for their games in the stall. Like I hope that I I haven't seen it. Is there like you know UI for it to
Yeah. I wonder I mean Bowen's here. We can we can bother them. Oh man. Thank man they just like
jumping right in.
Get going.
Chaos again. All right Andy. Oh the C off the rip.
All right.
Okay. Easy combo.
A one time.
Oh, close.
Sick drain.
I love it when I find a Jurassic Park that has no flipper hop. Oh.
Oh, right.
Come on down.
Good. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, control. Control. You must learn control.
You must learn control.
Star Wars.
Star Wars. You dude, you love that Star Wars.
Early. He's late. He knows French.
Does he?
Get it?
Yeah, I got it. Whoa. From a weird whatever that was. That was fun.
Wonderful. All right. Come on. Oh, that's it. Oh,
it does seem like that weird bounce stuff is is getting the
It's giving you like a different trajectory. Uh, that's feels more horizontal than it does vertical.
Yeah, you did need some of that slap. Get up all that.
That was beautiful. Get that ass.
Actually, two. That was only like his second try on the O.
Get that ass.
This is very good.
Okay, Truckucky is in a good spot.
Split the gap and easy.
No. No.
He missed.
He hits the tower ramp.
He was ready to run, too. Oh, come on.
Oh, it's it's that shot is
that is
brutal, dude. Brutal.
Manhattan chaos. Remember when it was like worth billions? Yeah.
Is that Oh,
okay. He moves the the the truck out of the way.
Yeah. The truck being in the position it's in is benefiting him greatly, but he still has to find the shot.
No. Like super in the way.
Yeah.
You know what? Smart missile
has to get out of the uh the multiball skirt.
What ball are we on here? Uh four. Okay.
Oh, really? It felt like he only had that was all his first one.
God, see that truck? Move the truck, dude.
I think he like almost nailed it that first try.
Move that car.
Yeah, it was in there.
Okay. Okay. Weird weird weird weird choice.
I think he's struggling more on this than the O.
Oh, yeah. No doubt.
Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I think it's in a better spawn, the flipper. I would um if I'm in his position, I'm moving that truck before I make any more pot shots. So,
all right. All right. Oh, close.
It's just uh it's just not Yep.
Yeah. Now that he's already gotten through the ball one,
he is not happy.
All right. Two just go do it.
Oh, there's someone buttoning you up there. I prefer JP home.
I just needed to look away for a second. There we go. the Jurassic Park home game with that Robocop jump ring.
I I know I know a thing or two about the guy who made that game.
Yeah, I can't believe they let that dude have a career.
Almost just shy of three minutes.
Any one of those shots we've seen had like can cause some pretty big problems. So, like
C O H.
Um, and now the truck being in the wrong position, it's going to cost some money.
Oh man, imagine hitting the wrong timer while like reaching over
somebody else's.
I want that to happen.
Oh my god. You just secretly bring your timer over places.
Move your opponent's timer.
All right, let's see some chaos.
Um, are isn't this buying himself more time? Like, you shouldn't be allowed to move the podium.
Good point.
He just moved that closer to himself.
It It could matter that and broken switches. It all can matter. Woo! TW.
So, he's going for his raptor.
He's already got C for chaos.
Now for the easy shot.
The
So they say
one time. That's exactly where my break was at all, too.
Here we go. Here's the
A all day.
Best combo. Love it.
Come on down to Otown, bro. That's it. This is it. One time. Oh god.
Oh, on the fly.
All right. All right. All right. Finding ways finding all the ways to get the ball to the left flipper.
Yeah. It's not uh what all is feeding the left flipper. Left ramp and
raptor.
Nice drop down. Really?
Oh, that was great.
Oh, another one. And nails the A again. He's still got plenty of time. Question mark. He's got 1 minute 15 seconds.
That looked good. Well, I don't know. I felt good. I just really like his drop catches.
Oh, weird. Hello. Weird.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude. Just
What? Just hit the O.
Just Just hit the O to just hit the O.
What?
Whoa. [Music] That shot is so late. Don't just don't talk to the clock.
Late.
You have all the time in the world, my guy. You're going to start a Can you start chaos while you're in Raptor?
No.
Okay,
dude. That post is such an F.
But you know, you have to smell chaos when you're in Raptor.
Yeah. Okay. That
That's how it the super lights. Daniel, you're fine.
Oh, Ally, that's another way to get it.
Early.
He loves that post.
That one That one was just me.
Yeah, that that just jammed it into the ball guy.
This is This is
Okay.
It felt so good just to see him get that
s
and
one time.
It might matter.
Breathe. Breathe.
I thought someone was saying that which not must be named Liz. I thought someone was going Liz Liz liz. What was that?
I have no idea. Let's see. He was screaming lose.
Blues maybe.
Trying to get you to fail. Uh, internet, thank you for spending Wednesday with us here at Interarium for the Stern Pro Circuit Finals sponsored by Mountain Dew and IFPA. I'm Jack Danger and with me as always,
hey Elizabeth, these games.
Yeah. Uh, everyone here has fought valiantly to get to this point over the past year in 20 events, 32 people coming together to duke it out to win $30,000 in cash and prizes, including
a new Stern Pro game.
Yeah. Yeah. Where's our air horn, dude?
I got you.
It's all mouth noises from here.
Yeah. My next pin. Uh, no sound effects, please.
Jerry, get that mic in here.
Just fart noises.
Oh, I did actually record a whole bunch of fart noises for a pinball machine.
I What? Which one?
Rick and Morty.
Oh,
so all the fart noises you hear on that game came from this. You are pulling my leg here. Pulling my finger here.
We're professionals.
The uh next game is Jaws.
All right. So, if Danielle wins this, he takes the whole the whole round.
Um Andy's got some climbing to do.
I'm guessing they're going to start feeding.
Look at this blue da d
Oh, I like that song. It is so blue.
If I was green, I would die. That's what he says, right?
If I were green, I would die.
I'm blue. If I was green, I would die.
Uh, the difficult. There it is. It's so hard not to shoot the shots.
Oh, man.
But I got it set clear already. Times two. Now one more.
Holy heck. Backhand though.
Backhanded. Yes. That was easy.
Oh, gross, dude. He's
blazing. This is going to be tough to beat. Pop bumper could have helped him out there, but
Oh, the pop dies if you hit the reel.
That's it. That's a in
easy 41 seconds.
Holy shrimps
in 2.5.
Also, I think you broke the table.
That po those poor tables, man. [Music]
In a perfect world, it should always uh Oh,
Jaws.
J. Jaws is a fun game. Uh designed by Keith Elwin. Um I think this uh person had something to do with Jaws.
I carried the cushions, that's for sure.
She carried the cushions of the couch.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which everybody tells me. They're like, "Man, what a what a time." And I'm like, "Yeah, those those couch fellas, am I right?
Get it. Fluff them up. Make it cozy."
Do love this game. It's very it's very fun game. It certainly landed on its feet. did not jump the shark as percent right up on the death right
thank you pop uper
all right ah night swim
chart okay oh my god he can you make progress in this
you just can't okay
can't be a spell night's just there we go
Danielielli has two more targets to make it and then he's done Done.
Okay, one more, baby. One more. One more pick up
on the fly. Hits the back hands. The right flip. That was it.
He missed it, but Oh my god,
it happened. We saw it.
He paused. He paused cuz he wasn't sure he made it.
I wasn't sure if he made it.
Oh my.
It doesn't get closer than that.
4 seconds. 4 seconds. That's some like swim trial meat type of time. You know, it's always like that close. Dang, that was some quick feeding frenzy.
Look at that crowd.
The view the of the rafters, man. What a ceiling. Oh, yeah. And well, someone's not happy on Dr. No. Did you see that?
Oh, it was uh No, Dr. No, I didn't.
Someone shook it. But um that might just be skip bonus next. 4/10 of a second. Mountain Dew, more money,
internet, try Mountain Dew.
Anyways,
Mountain Dew established in 1948. Um,
yeah, as a mixer for Moonshot.
I appreciate you, Mountain Dew. I have very fond memories of uh being like 19.
Nice. driving a a champagne colored uh Honda Civic um and with $10 getting a Mountain Dew, a Twix bar, a pack of things we're not going to talk about, and then some gas in the car. And like Mountain Dew was my drink for a very long time in my younger formidable years.
Then energy drink started coming in.
Um I I've always had an image of my mind for myself that I'm building towards. Um, and I it's a denim hat worn backwards with a leather jacket skateboarding on a longboard down to a a a bookstore corner shop. Carrying in my hand a vintage Mountain Dew hand with a side satchel full of old school comic books,
everything but the mainstream. Wearing high top Converse with my ripped jeans and graphic tea. Are you seeing it yet?
Yeah. You know what's funny is like you're an adult and you can make that happen.
I'm building towards it.
You can uh do you have like a mannequin in a corner of your room that's like slowly acquiring the outfit?
Uh no, I I don't I have a denim hat and high top Converse.
Are we talking like Britney Spears denim hat? Like a like a cowboy?
No. No. A baseball cap.
Got it.
Denim baseball cap. For a while that was like my icon and everything was like a denim hat cuz I like wore it so much.
Uh now it's I A lot of things are Galaga. I got a Galaga thing as an icon.
That's my background on my computer.
Okay.
The Galaga. That's
into Galaga.
Always been my favorite arcade game. Yeah, I like Galaga.
Galaga.
Um, do we know anyone that worked on Galaga?
You know, probably.
Yeah, it it's always shocking.
The the arcade scene is so incestuous. Like people just walk through like there's some random guy like, "Oh, that guy invented uh golden tea." Like what the freak are you talking about?
They are such inbreeders over there.
Um yeah, my actually my really one of my top arcade games happens to be Spy Hunter.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Spy Hunter is what it's called, right? I I love that you're standing and I just laugh maniacally just like running people off.
Yeah.
Hi. Hi. You know, you just douche. But um yeah, that was designed by George Gomez. So
he George made a spy hunter pinball machine.
That was him too.
I think he made internet. Can you confirm? Did George make the spy hunter pinball machine? Cuz that thing is strange.
I guess it would also make sense
in in like a I appreciate its uniqueness.
Well, yeah. Knowing you
weirder than
Yeah. That and Tron, I think, was his his two uh big arcade games that that Gumas did. Um, I did. I I got to talk to George about that spy hunter cuz I I like he was just walking by as you know my old chair where it was in the breezeway, right? And I was like, "Oh, hey, George. Really like that game."
Mike Victor says, "No, George had nothing to do with the pinball machine."
Well, okay. But he had to do with the arcade game or that he was just, you know, BSing me. Hey, Mike. What's going on? Vineor. MXV. I like how it's all of his names in there.
Mike MXV. Vineor.
Yeah, just
Well, the MXV stands for most extreme vineor. got her included. Um, but yeah, no, he was walking by and I was just kind of like, "Hey, I really like Spy Hunter." Anyways, and then he like he's rushing off to something because George is always in and speeding along. But then like an hour later, he comes back to my desk and like sits on the side of it and like looks up and he's like,
"Yeah, so you know, I went to Japan this one time." I'm like, "What are we talking about?" Oh, okay. Okay. We're doing
start with two.
So, there's always some good stories from the from the people at Stern is as as long as you know how to who to ask and and what question to ask,
uh, you you can get them talking.
Yeah, we got a lot of really cool people coming through that were like, you know, toy creators from the 80s, video game folks, pinball machine manufacturers. Um,
yeah, it's wild.
Yep. people that weren't born yet. Uh the uh Right. But yeah, no, everybody has a story to tell. You just you just need to know what questions to ask.
Um even even Rick, I saw Rick talk to a guy like for an hour at Texas Pinball. Asked him about slot machines.
Oh, right. Yeah. Slot machines is also part of that.
Yeah, there's a lot of lot of people that worked with slots. Dwight Dwight Sullivan came back to Stern from Slot Machines around the same time that I started working uh closely with Stern like 10ish years ago.
Oh, good. So, George did work on Spy Hunter. I mean, I think all the time I'm so afraid of like
just making stuff up.
I honestly I say things in my head and I
No, George drew the original uh drawing of Pac-Man. Um, it was actually a wheel of cheese that he rolled some ink on and just slapped it down on an old burlap sack and when he lifted it up, he's like,
"There it is.
This thing looks like it could eat some ghosts." And um, Pac-Man was born.
That That's how it's done.
Did I tell you that I was talking to Mark Renesis yesterday and it was like, "Hey, thanks for your help on this thing." Uh, you know, I'm like, "Yep, Galves, he's the man. He's
thinking I was talking to Mark and he doesn't correct me. He's like, "Yeah, no problem." He didn't have anything to do with it. I'm like, "Oh, I'm so sorry." I know now. I I make the mistake once.
Never again. I I now know.
Names are hard. Names are hard.
I'm telling you, I don't see people's faces that often, but I I know exactly.
Wear your Slack avatar over your face and all that. I I can I can describe every Slack avatar
except Keith. He changes his all the time. There's some people that changes changes there often and then there's others that like Rick is still the
There's still a lot of people that also haven't figured out how to put an image there. So, it's just like the color circle. Kevin, he's he's still I think most people though there's there's not
but it's funny even the the color of it I find you know this stuff matters
you know what kind of attitude you're sporting
uh all right so we are we're looking pretty good our round twos are almost done here
for a second realizer one anyway
oh yeah because Andy won that. We're dragging it out into another fight. Uh again, Danieli just has to win one of these to take the whole thing. So Andy really has to climb his way out of this hole.
I confuse Jack with Seth all the time. Yep. So does HR.
Oh, you know there his voice. So being again I'm remote often often times people I can't see their face.
Okay.
His voice and Jod's voice sounds the same.
Seth Davis.
Yeah.
Oh, really? and I couldn't tell who was speaking and that kind of mattered before this
the president or yeah and I'm like I don't I don't know how to do I need to write the I what I don't know but yeah the whole meeting I afterwards I was like who's the one speaking like a lot for or like the one like it's suggesting this and that I had to like take I took notes on all of these things and then afterwards I I went to somebody else that was in the meeting as well and I was like who said this who said that and it was just in between those true ping ponging.
So, yeah. No, next time close your eye. Next time you're talking to just close your eyes.
Who am I talking to?
Uh, in uh Yep.
All right, let's see what objective we're going for here.
Um, my money I
Jetack.
It's not Jetpack.
No, cuz they love
played it already.
No, no, no. They played bird. So, it has to be jetack.
Has to be jetpack.
Yeah, that's one.
Oh my goodness gracious. Were you around for the all hands meeting?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And I closed my eyes and was like, Jody,
Seth Seth mentioned me too many times and it was making me real uncomfortable.
You you and one other person. It's a close tie on
like blah blah blah. And Jack's going to be doing this stuff. Blah blah blah. Jack's the And he he even like said I'm replacing Gary as the the face figure head of the company.
So get ready for that. Internet. It wasn't. Gary was in there, which was fun to see.
I love Gary, dude. I I I need to never leave.
Entertainment, his uh his frozen his frozen
cryo chamber.
All right. So, we have to shoot it into that little ejector on the left under that flipper.
That's going to light a light on the left orbit. You hit that shot. Bada boom, bada bing. Do that three times and you win the game.
Oh. Oh. around the horn. That's one way to transfer a ball. You shoot the center orbit, bring it around, loop pass, right flipper.
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
Sure,
that's the way to do it.
You know what's weird is uh with this game,
I feel like the ball falls in there a lot unless you want.
Unless you want it to. Yeah. Yeah.
Especially that. Yeah. It must be because shooting shots on the right is what's making it
that ricocheting over and you just
you're not shooting those.
Yeah. Oh,
easy. That's the way to do it, man.
Life size cutout to Jack Danger. Coming soon.
Yeah. And holding a pinball and going.
It's probably going to be like middle fingers or something like that.
Jesus.
We're changing the attitude of stir.
Oo, what a dirty left orbit. That was nice.
All right, so we need one more scoop. Heck. Oh, he closed it too soon.
Looks like uh uh I guess Daltton defeated Zack moves on.
Oh, really?
I I don't know what DEF stands for.
Dalton deaf. Zach Sharpe 65.
Is it death as in defeated or deaf as indefinitely?
Probably defended.
Defended. I don't know. We never will know.
There you go. All right. So, you can see that last shot is lit on the left. Get the ball on the right and shoot it and slap the table until it breaks.
Nice. That felt quick. It's 2 minutes 30.
That was pretty pretty okay.
He originally had some trouble getting in that. Look at that. It just like whatever.
Yeah, that's Let's Let's see this one find its way in.
Might have could.
The match play says Dalton advance. All right, there you go.
Thank you. Yeah. Uh, common call outs in a game. That's always a fun trivia thing. It's like, who said
go for the Jets?
Go for the Jets.
Yeah.
Uh, that would be World Cup soccer.
Oh, okay. I think it's I think it's also theater or Magic. I think more than one game has that.
Uh, both of those are John Papadoo games. It might be the same call out, actually.
All right. Uh, Mr. Daniel going to be shooting some.
Yep. Oh, I wanted that.
That That would have been so pretty.
Don't moves on.
Dalton moves on. Oh, what the flip was that.
Oh.
Oh, it's got like a It's like
It had like a weird spin on it.
Andy's back there activating some magnets.
Look at Look at him. His hands in his pocket. Tell him put his hands in the air.
Mhm. Mhm. All right. finds that eject for the third time basically.
Are you getting a little sore in here? I'm getting a little little tender sitting here all day.
I'm trying to
Yeah.
Move my hips.
Little side.
All right, get through there.
So, we got one. Let's try it again.
Ah, dead bounce.
Sick dream. You still got time. a minute.
This could all Oh, that was a big Oh, man. Get it in there. Hold that flip up. Even though it Oh,
too early.
Another dude, that right out lane is hungry on this game.
Yeah, I have not seen another out lane. Oh my god.
Ball fives.
Bounce bounce in the hole. Oh,
this is all the luck game. This is such a luck game.
Yeah, skill in pinball. Never heard of it.
There you go. You still got time. You got a whole minute left. Shoot that orbit. Clean. Oh, barf.
There you go. All right. One ski pass one time. Yes. Okay.
Oh, this is it. You got 30 seconds.
He can do it.
Okay.
Yeah. No, you got it.
Yep. This is it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Get up. You got to get up.
Don't touch.
Yeah. No.
Drop the freaking ball. Oh my god. He's got
15 seconds.
This is it. This is it.
This is it.
No. No.
Okay. Here. This is it.
That was it. I don't think he's going to have time.
Keep pass. This is it. No. Oh, that was it.
Oh my god,
man. A
All right. Now, now it's just not happening. He's like, I can't find that shot.
All right. Well, Andy's climbing that hill. Okay. So, folks, so far, uh, Jack versus Josh, it's 5 to3 Jack. VGO versus Andrew, it's four to four. Sterling versus Los, it is zero to zero.
Yeah.
Just started. And uh it is now tied five to five Andy versus uh
whoever
diesel beats. All right. So what old electromechanical mechanism would you like to see in a pinball machine again?
You know
the turret from Stern Viper.
Stern what?
Viper.
Viper. So, it's this turret in the middle that's covered in a target and then it spins with a ball in it and you it shoots the ball out.
I have never seen this.
Yeah.
I think I'm thinking of a um
Is it Viper Internet? It's Viper.
Uh I'm thinking of some other game that starts with a V and it looks weird.
Viper Night Driving.
I can't think of it. I
G darn it. But no. Okay, now I need to see this. I need to see this playfield. I
It's cool. It should be cool. There is so many like man they did that you know like uh the big hand clock device that just spins in circle perpetually with saucers all around it.
The coolest plunge that I haven't seen done before is from uh Capcom's uh is it magic? What's it called?
Theater m or I mean um uh m pinball magic. pinball magic where it's like the 180 loop that you have to plunge it just right to let it fall straight down into the hat.
I've never been able to do that.
Oh, really?
I don't Well, I've never really I For me, I'm just I Yeah, get the ball in the face.
All or nothing. Send it in there.
But, uh No. Yeah, that is a That's a very unique clunch. Yeah, unique plunges. Um there there's the ones that plunge in between the flippers.
Oh, yeah.
Those are always fun. Yeah.
It would buy you more space on the right because you don't need a shooter lane anymore.
True. Yeah.
Pinball Magic. Thank you.
Yeah, that's what I said, right? Theater of Pinball Magic. Although, you know, in terms of theater, there's more of a theater presence in Pinball Magic than theater of magic.
I agree. Yep. Cuz it it has like the curtains that come apart. You
shoot the theater. You shoot it. Super.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of other plunges specifically is an interesting thing to think about. Uh I mean on older games, plunges meant so much more.
Yeah,
because uh skill shots super matter. Uh like on uh is it solar? No, not solar flare. A g darn it.
Yes, Viper. Heck yeah.
Um
it's too late in the day for me to be thinking. We we've been sitting here talking for a good amount of time.
You might say hours and you'd be right.
We're on hour six.
But I mean to be fair, most of the time most of our days are talking about pinball.
Yeah.
Which uh
but we get to talk about stuff you guys don't get to know about yet.
Yeah. Like what?
Yeah. Like what?
Like what?
Yeah. Like what?
Like
like what are you talking about? Uh yeah, like what uh music league songs are winning for the week?
I'm not doing music league this one.
Yeah, you know, I give up on that cuz no one's voting for my stuff. I keep posting stuff that are like fart sounds and like I've been kicked out.
What was their first one that was like literally farts in my butt?
Dude, look up that song.
I I've heard it. Yeah, you submitted it and I listened to it.
It's a freaking banger. The beat's incredible. Um, all right. So, we are uh doing start sparky on Metallica again. Shoot straight up the middle to hit sparky. If you just hit sparky, that counts as a hit. If you can manage to hit the target, I believe that counts as two.
Yeah, solar ride. That's the one that has a really important skill shot. Thank you, man. Why Why think when you have a chat?
Yeah, Borgie. Get bored.
Get bored.
Get bored. I do like it when a it's it's convenient when a designer has a tell of what games he's done so I don't have to think as hard and I'm like does double in lane. Yeah, I was boring.
Good old boring.
All right, so we're looking at
uh Oh, we're just starting Sparky. Oh, all these shots to the left. I would have thought he was starting again.
All right, one more shot. Yeah. Not Oh, not that Sparky.
Whoa.
All right, this is it. Yeah.
Did he break it?
One 1.09.
Oh yeah. Fireball skill shot. making making the most important thing ever.
What is that game where the it's like dinosaurs?
Okay.
And the the plunge has to go like half up this like sort of ramp thing and then roll back and then that
30,000 BC
like seven seven million BC.
Yeah, that one is like an odd game. It's like multiball before it happened but not quite. It's got zipper flippers, right?
Yep. Bring those back, baby. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Zippers on flippers.
Yeah.
200.
2000 BC.
Diesel peeps. I don't know about that. I don't think dinosaurs were around in 200. This was quite soon.
Wasn't that like I don't know the pyramids or something.
2000 BC. Yeah, that couldn't have been dinosaurs.
They didn't have Wikipedia back then.
Surely it's not. Is it 20,000 BC? Yeah. Wait a second.
I I I 1 million BC.
All right. There you go. Was that it? Yep. That's That's the W D.
All right. Easy.
Congratulations.
Beautiful animation here and a animated character.
This game's got it all.
4 million BC.
That's more accurate. makes a lot more sense.
Me thinking 20,000 was accurate. Me first saying 30,000. Uh, yeah. 10 million BC. 8 million. 5 million BC. 4 million BC. I'm seeing too many numbers in the chat now.
You guys are honestly like typing just the random numbers.
4 million BC.
Yeah.
So, Danieli wins that. Andy is out of the running. Uh but we still have a whole another round of people to go and then quarters and then semiis and then finals.
We're here for it folks
though. I'm going to have to lay down at some point.
Yeah,
being vertical here.
But boy goodness. It is it this has been fun, Jack. I I don't get to talk to you enough.
I'm glad that we get to have this. It's like it's like concentrated.
They're forcing us to have a conversation. the only way we would.
Um because I don't you guys don't know it but we hate each other like really bad.
Yeah. I was like they're like do you want to work on X-Men? And I was like
Jack
we we don't get along.
No, I was busy with DN D cuz in my interview I said I my I liked uh Dwight asked what board games I played and I said and I was like oh I also play tabletop with D and D and and he was like oh. And they all had this moment and moved on. And then I was like, that probably won't matter.
I said that nothing about that mattered. Lo and behold,
that won't come up later, I'm sure.
So that Yeah. They're like, you'll be on like this game called Jaws or whatever for a little bit, but like there's this game DN D.
Yeah.
And she did the
And I did that thing a little bit of a lot of it. That was that was a That was a lot. That was a lot. A big game. Am I good?
Looks like we're over Jurassic Park again. Okay, but who are we watching?
Jurassic Park. Or are we are we doing Paddics?
That looks like Metallica.
This is a weird Jurassic Park.
Oh,
Star 72 Seasons. This is the first that we're seeing this.
All right, so uh 72 Seasons is
hit the pick targets.
Hit the pick targets. And then you need 72 switches
in 300 minutes. I know what you're talking about.
I barely
300.
Uhhuh. All right.
Good. I'm glad I'm glad we're on the same page.
Shoot. Nothing much shots. All right. So, he needs
one more pick target on the far left.
I'm going to I'm going to say he needs uh how many stand ups?
He's got them all. He just needs the switches now.
All right. Hit that spin on
unless he had Okay, there you go. Yeah, it's counting up. You can see the the number of switch.
Yeah. All right. All right.
So, he's up to 35.
Spinner is definitely the way to go.
I'm sure. I wonder if that spinner is counting every like
Look how intently he's watching.
Nailed it.
We need to get it. We have to get a different table.
He did the thing. You don't want
What's that?
Uh or did he start it? Did he complete it?
He started he drained. I thought he drained at like 70 switches or something. Oh no.
Do you have to restart?
Yeah, you have to hit all four targets and get all 72.
So there's no progress that holds over between balls and 72 seasons.
Well, if you don't start it, your picks will carry over. So see on this ball there's one one pick target is still there.
Yeah.
So So like carry, but once you hit the fourth one, then it's do or die basically.
Do you have to hit unlit targets and like them and that's what it is? Okay.
Yep. That table is broken. Broki, what happened?
Uh, Eric pushed it down.
Oh my god.
DNF
that. Yeah,
Josh is kicked out. And that's Josh. Not to confuse with Zach.
Wait, that's Josh?
Yeah, that's Josh right there.
Table down.
And Mark Rees says not Mark Galvos.
Nope. Not even close.
Or Mark Panacho. Or Mark Rtoelli. Oh man, we've got a lot of Marks. We've got a lot of Kevin's.
I I think Mark takes it. Mark Weyna. Mark Vor.
Oh yeah.
Yeah. Mark Vicorn. Mike.
I Yeah. Well, Kizette the other day was like, "Yeah, there used to be a lot of mics, but now I'm the only one." I'm like, "What did you do to Vinnacorn?"
Oh, yeah. What the heck? He's a Mark now. That's why.
Right. He's been converted. That that's how all Marks came to be. You don't You're never born as a Mark. You're born a Mark. bear the mark.
Marking the mark.
But Elizabeth's we're we're a rare breed.
Do you go by Elizabeth?
Yeah. Or geese
or not like
any of those other iterations? No. No.
I get it.
All right. 72 seconds. Let him win.
72 seconds. All right. So, he's got
All right. Nailing.
Does he have three of his four already?
I Yeah.
That is such an early backhand to get that that pick. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. That's dirty.
Oh, it's so early compared to the left orbit. So early.
Mike K trying to steal the mic twilight. You got Dude, Victor, get in there, bud.
Audio, audio, audio, audio, man. He is missing that left stand up. Tip it over. There you go. Odd backhand.
Yep. That'll do.
And spinner.
That'll do. and Jared. That counts as a switch. Okay. And he's nailing that target now that now that he doesn't need it. He's hitting it three times.
Does flipping count as a switch? Like the end of stroke going on?
Ah, couldn't quite quit it.
Oh, there was a a home
Oh, he gave up cuz he drained.
There was a homebrew that had a switchbased rule that was uh progress with flippers. Flippers counted.
I think it was a bug.
That sounds terrible.
Sounds terrible. And it was the most important thing on the game, too, unfortunately. It was like switches light something.
And uh yeah, click click click click click click click. Ah,
I don't think it was the intention, but it was interesting. It's like, oh, yep, that's a switch. The coin door maybe.
Yeah. Pushing the coin door button.
RIP when I made light shows and all of my light shows included the coin door lights.
Oh, you can do that?
It's hard not to. Oh,
well, it's really easy to, I'll tell you that.
Fidget flipping is a crime. Yeah, that's fair.
Oh, yeah. Uh, I was playing against Carlos,
you know. Carlos, good guy. Good guy. He's a He's a flipper. He likes to flip for no reason sometimes.
Makes you feel good.
Uh, but when I stepped up to the Grand Prix, boy goodness, did that right flipper not work. Oh, no. It didn't burn it.
It did not work. And uh but uh yeah, they fixed it after my ball.
Say lovey. Um speaking of pinball, Stern Pinball Pro Circuit Finals internet here on a Wednesday at Interarium and Shamberg. Uh shout out to our sponsors, Mountain Dew, Stern Pinball, IFA. I'm Jack Danger. With me as always,
Miss Elizabeth.
Yeah. And we're here to watch people battle it out for a chance to win $30,000
and battle to have the Oh, and a pro circuit game. Pro pro game. Pro stern game.
Yep. Nailed it. First try.
Anyways,
um and yeah, they're duking it. What What do you know about this tournament?
Well, it's a yearly tournament held during Expo and players to qualify must play in Pro Circuit events throughout the year. So, this is the 2024 Pro Circuit Event Finals. Uh, but you play in these Pro Circuit events. There's 20 of them. You got to play in a few, do enough, and uh, you're here.
Then you end up here.
See? Oh, and there's Tom. And there's always Tom. Oh, okay. It looks like we're doing Winston.
Yay. Winston.
Deconseecrated.
Why can't it say Winston? Elliot,
what are you doing?
I have a thing.
Yeah, that's fair.
Hear me out.
Donk.
All right, good hit. Good hit.
Captive.
Ericson looks like he's
there. Oh, dead ball.
Ready to push the buttons for him.
There you go.
Oh, there you go. One more and then ramp three times.
There you go.
There we go. Nice tip over.
Easy shot.
Yeah, easy shot in the game.
Ski pass. Easy money.
Little dirty, but
one more. One more. You got this. Good ski pass.
Well done.
Yeah. Force it down. You got to hit it with force.
Broke the table.
That is ridiculous. Can we get a new table over here?
There are only like 10 of those.
Or like put it on a stool.
Hey Josh, I did it again. I don't know how to fix it.
I did it again.
Table. I can't get it to come up. Jared stopped him. Mario bought stomped him.
If they're adjustable, they can be adjusted wrong.
It's something I learned about in pinball. If you make something adjustable,
it can be adjusted incorrectly.
Yeah, I do suppose the center ramp isn't the easy shot in this game. What would you think is the easiest shot in this game?
Uh, that right orbit.
Yep. Right orbit.
Yep. That right orbit is buttery smooth.
Money. It's just such a long leading.
Yeah. Love it. Love, love, love.
It's an interesting place for the right ram. You know, it's like tucked, tucked away.
Fast shooter, hard shooter.
It is a very quick game. This game right out of the box, it the ball's like teleporting around the play field.
Yeah, this man has been a great learning experience. Heck yeah.
Good to hear.
Yep. That that's that is the objective, right?
Wait, did Mike Vinor say that?
Would that be funny if Mike was the one? Oh god,
this game has been a great learning experience.
I'm really learning stuff, man. I hope so.
Guy is working on this game.
Right orbit then left ramp in terms of difficulty, I suppose. Mike says,
"All right, so Eric Stone needs to shoot the captive ball." Winston,
he's hitting the easiest shot in the game right there.
Can't can't quite find the backhand there.
There you go.
Solid hit.
Back hand's an interesting choice for him. McCarthy and Dalton.
Check. McCarthy and Dalton, who doesn't have a last
Oh, not hard enough.
Okay, that'll be
I got it. Oh,
he's got 20 20 seconds.
Yeah, you're good. You're good. You're good.
It's counting down quick. Three rounds. That's tough.
He doesn't like
Yeah.
Yeah. I think that's um I think that's time there. some some other people have walked away at this point.
Okay. Yep.
Yeah, it's true. There are things that are as set as objectives that you don't normally think about. I I agree there.
And that it has been funny also not only on things like yeah, I know how to qualify him, but do I know that can I qualify it during say a multiball game or the upside down
mode or Yeah. where we've seen upside down actually cancels any of the lights on the playfield but you can still make progress
right so we we've learned things and I mean I felt like I knew things pretty well
but no I've never really like zoned in on the demi dog tors to a point where I'm like upside down doesn't bother me demi dog demi dog
true and I also like don't go out of my way to do demi dog so I didn't know that shooting the saucer on the left so
yeah and that's been huge Like if certain people knew about that one, they might have might have had an easier time with it.
I thought this was Oh, maybe they were waiting for the machine.
No, I thought they were done, too.
Oh, we're over Dungeons and Dragons. Whatever. We're going to
Dungeons and
Dungeons and Dragons.
Dungeons and Dragons was a fun fun game. A lot of speech. That game has 11,000 lines of speech.
And imagine that uh Jerry had to hand each one of those.
Yeah, I I do wonder he gets he has such a quick turnaround sometimes that I wonder how if he has like some like automated system for him
or like clones.
Yeah, there's like five Jerry's I've seen them
in in one room.
He has a lot of pictures with celebrities and I don't think they're all him.
He knows people. Jerry is a welcome acted.
Yeah, he's very welcoming. All right, start dragon multiball.
Dragon.
So, hit the dragon targets. Shoot the right orbit.
Yeah.
Or the side ramp. Okay.
If if you want to risk missing.
And you can buy a target from FSMO if you're in Cobalt this week.
Blue.
Oh, he went for the side.
Uh, I'm We're still waiting to see it. Short plunges.
Wait,
short plunges. Was his timer not running or is that someone else's timer?
There's a there's
Oh, they're playing next to each other. Okay.
Okay. That's confusing. All right. We don't know the time,
but uh yeah, that timer next to him is not his.
All right. 41 seconds. All right. Cool.
I think I'm getting delirious at this point. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone. Am I Am I still here? I've seen this game before. Uh,
what game haven't we seen under the camera?
Venom.
Venom. Venom. We've seen a Venom.
We haven't seen Venom played here.
I thought we saw Venom.
Not Not the once.
No one wants to play Venom. Weird. I mean, like it's it's fine. you as in like the objectives, they're very doable.
Yeah. Wait, uh
Carnage and Mayhem.
Yeah, that's like a captive ball and Yeah. I wonder
combos. Yeah,
I think I would do it. I'd do Mayhem. I think
I would do like if I had a choice between anything on Venom or having to do Chaos Multiball in Jurassic Park, I would take
I'd do Venom.
Yeah,
that's funny.
A little vertigo there.
You okay?
Yeah. Didn't it just like shift or something? Okay. shared Vertigo.
Oh, Vertigo being the code name
29.
29. Almost beat Wix 28.5. Still holding out as the champ,
but that was
I'm loving the quick ones. I'm loving the quick ones.
Yeah, Vertigo being the code name for John.
John, right?
Rogue was this game's code name. And uh
oh, Jurassic Park code name being Jaws.
Jaws, which
is pretty confusing. There are files named Jaws.
Yeah. It's actually super confusing cuz not everybody follows the naming nomenclature either. So someone might make a Jaws file for Jaws.
Yeah.
But other people make Jaws files for Jurassic Park,
right? Or like back in the day, you know? I mean, I I see Vertigo names. And I'm like, "Yeah, you know, Vertigo." But, God forbid we come out with a Vertigo game.
Yeah.
And here we are with with with Jaws. Um, there's also a folder called Shark that I would I would play once in a while cuz that was the code word for Batman
or Dudes was uh WWE
and Guy was Deadpool.
True.
Being kind of related.
Uh, Stranger Things was Goonies. Yeah. Ray, right? I love it.
Oh, missed the dragon targets or
Yep, he missed the dragon targets.
For a second there, I thought he was going after the G cube.
Yeah,
gel. Gel cube.
Wait, don't they have Oh, no. He Never mind. They're on the Wait,
that was dragon. He's just kind of being a little weird about not going straight for the targets.
Yeah, I wonder.
Is he going for the targets?
No, he's going.
He is going Latin.
But we just saw Is he not up against um Jerry?
They're not going for the same objective. I'm pretty sure they just finished the dragon and we just missed.
Yeah, it might be that. No, it might be that.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
Jeez, it's chat. I can't be the only one that was confused there.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.
They are. This is their second game and now they're going for Gelatinous Cube. They're second of DND games. Back to back. Third game total. They're going for gelatinous cake.
I need Zach said he was going to take care of us. I need like a shoulder masseuse.
I I might need some caffeine.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And I never drink caffeine.
Like a Mountain Dew.
Is this a Pepsi place?
As in That's a Pepsi product, right?
Yeah, I believe so.
Yeah. Where is Emit Ables or anybody from the marketing?
Well, there's Josh.
He's talking to the guy that runs Inarium. I'm not going to bother.
Oh, good. Tell him that I want to guy who Oh, tip the hat. Tip the hat.
That's an inside joke right there.
Were you there for it?
No.
Oh, okay. It was when we were practicing for the store tour group, guide group, whatever. We were doing the walkthrough and everyone was just tipping their head trying to get Ray to talk faster.
Oh god.
Pulling their ear.
Yeah.
Touching their nose. Speaking it up.
Well, that's why is the signal to say that you're supposed to go to the next gate. Are you
doing one of the tours?
I am crowd control because uh I I was like so I don't know anything about the factory, but I can be there. So I will be there. Are you?
Uh no, cuz I'm going to be at Expo the entire freaking time.
Nice.
Nice.
Oh no.
I mean I Yeah, I I wouldn't mind a Mountain Dew. I think I my insides might
go I love it [Laughter] dude this game man holy getting this game across the not the finish line of 1.0 but you cross the finish line of release
out the door. Yeah.
Oh my goodness gracious. I wrote I I came up to Stern for Oh, thanks, Mark.
Is that Mountain Dew?
Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.
Is coffee okay?
I don't drink coffee, but I will today.
Coke.
Can I drink a Coke? Can I have a Coke? I I would love one.
Do you want?
I don't drink coffee. Oh my goodness gracious. That was delicious. That was
the worst. Hey pinheads, Jack Danger here with Elizabeth Gizki and we are coming to you live from Entarium in Shamberg to celebrate the Stern Pro Circuit Finals where 32 amazing pinball players have culminated over 20 events to battle each other here for a chance to win $30,000 in cash and prizes including
a pro stern game.
Hey um yeah, so this is a heads up style format. It's time based. It's objective based. Try to do the thing as quick as you can before your opponent. Um, it's a best of six. I'm sorry. It's a best of 11.
First to six.
First to six. Thank you very much.
Numbers, man. 4 million BC, 72 seasons, 57 spices, and
27.5
and 28.5 diameter. But watch it back to learn what all those numbers mean.
Those are your lottery numbers for this week, ladies. We have been uh talking a lot today. I feel like I've been getting to learn a lot about you, Jack, and I appreciate.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
I you know, I I had a perception of you before. Now it's
Oh, no.
Well, now, you know, is it is it better? Is it is it worse? I won't say.
Hello.
Find out next week.
And the amount of words that come out of my mouth is exactly why you can't stand me. Uh That's all right.
No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I think he likes putting me in front of places so he he doesn't have to talk.
Oh, that's fair.
Yeah, it's a
He doesn't do a lot of engagements.
No. Yeah, that that trifecta that they got there going on. Harrison Henrik and
My goodness.
They'll let their fingers do the talking.
All right, I guess we're doing rapper.
Do you If you need something, he can
I have a Coke. Thank you.
Oh. Oh, I think I'm about to get two Cokes.
Good.
I love asking things from everybody and then being very
and then a pile of drinks show.
Okay, he's got raptor.
He's going to hit that.
Come on, slingshot. Come on, slingshot.
The game only almost very much wants you to hit that.
Nicely done.
Push that tail.
One point. Two.
Oh, that I don't Okay, we'll see about that. Raptor's tricky because
the the raptor shot itself isn't that bad, but this one I feel like you have to be pretty accurate.
Yeah, we've been seeing some a little bit of a not a little bit of a knot getting that shot up on. Yeah,
not quite.
Can you explain how to qualify for this tournament, Jack? Um, yes. You have to compete in a bunch of the Stern Pro Circuit Championship tour things.
That's what they say. Okay. So, you get points throughout the year. There are 20 of these. You can look up the schedule. Uh there is one coming up in Cincinnati actually in December.
Okay.
I think there's one in November as well. But there's a whole schedule of procircuit events. It has to be pro circuit. You play in those tournaments, qualify, and that's how that's how you you get up on here. 32 people qualify.
I can Yeah. Getting that ball back out on
where? Oh, yeah. It got stuck behind the gate.
Well, there's post that was up. I think a post caught it. I don't know why it would catch it, but I think it did.
I think two more shots ought to do it.
Yeah. I always I I don't ever remember what those colors mean, but
I think red means it's about to start blinking. There you go.
Gotcha. So, the hotter the color, the more ready. See, you you learn the minutia.
Get it.
Oh, it was close.
I don't remember.
It was a minute 20.
So, actually, it wasn't as close. A minute two. It was a minute in the number two was involved.
1.2. You're You were correct.
Okay. So, it was pretty close.
Great memory.
Yep. That's what they say. Elizabeth, good memory.
So, that puts us at uh Jared threestone 2.
Okay. Okay. Yep. Coming back here. Three on two. It's like soccer scoring over here.
Three on two. Low.
Well, just like a low.
Thank you, sir.
Look at that ice cold beverage.
I'm drinking scalding hot bean juice.
It was really hot. I kind of burned my tongue on it. Not only did it taste like absolute coffee.
Watch it. Yeah, true.
Boy, does that taste like coffee.
But yeah, that's my thing about hot drinks. It's just like they hurt me. They they they uh they they tease and they
Yeah.
They're like, "Yeah, let's be friends." And it's like,
it's like casual soup. Like, what what are you what are we doing?
That's why my brain it just breaks. It's not that the taste of coffee is also bad, but it's also like where's my spoon?
Yeah. But it's really a new thing. Everyone in my life has been telling me that I just need I I I I will just wait till you get to college. Just just wait till you get your job. Just wait until you you hate things.
Before what?
Before I start drinking coffee, but it never happened. It just And now at this point, it's just a stubborn thing.
Oh, we're going.
Pretty sure I've been drinking coffee since I was like four.
He just flung the ball with a button.
Oh, geez.
That's a pro.
All right. So, what are we What are we chasing here? Do you
J Mo? use.
So, you need that stand up on the right. Oh, no. This is the chum bucket.
He needs red shots.
And red shots. Yep.
So,
can you can you get there exclusively hitting chum?
Yep.
Yep. And looks like he got his last one off the chum. Now he just needs his harpoon shot. And now the very fine. Shoot it. Shoot it.
Hit it. Shoot it. Oh, he
misses.
Is that okay?
Well, yeah. You just have to hit that ramp again to re-qualify. Um, actually in normal play, I actually suggest people to miss it purposefully on the first.
Oh, because it's
the geometry is a little bit lined up for the center.
Okay.
On the first go, but it stands up in a different spot on the second go.
56 seconds. Not bad at all.
Yep.
Ow. Around. I'm coming around again. Or ready. Ready. Everyone come around again. I'm losing my mind here on the desk, ladies and gentlemen. All right, Eric Stone, what do you got for us, buddy?
We're going to be steaming some chomp.
Yeah.
All right.
All right. Full plunge. Safe enough.
Okay.
So, you start with the chum.
Got to always start with chum. Now, anything that is red
will progress. Progress,
including the chum mode. Yeah. Yeah,
you can see your progress on the chung line bean right in that center there. Oh, mean
the chum bean mean.
You kind of do have to stop the ball on the flipper and then release it.
Well, they also took this uh post out, so that's making life a little more difficult.
Maybe. Yeah. Looks like he needs um two more red shots if my math is correct. Maybe three.
All right. What do you think? One more or two more shot.
That looks like one.
I mean the droid mode is really one because then oh man.
I love that they're cognizant to know to look. Yeah.
Yeah. It's interesting. Most people do look at the right time, but I've seen people look and they got a minute left.
So that went to Jared.
He went to Jared. [Laughter] guys. Oh man,
that was pretty good. That was pretty good,
people. Not only is Jack learning so much about me, but you guys are too. And that only frightens me a little bit.
Um, oneliners, dude.
I'm not always like this. I'm only 70% of the time 100% like this.
You're Listen, if you need to get out, I understand at some point like I'm also trapping you in the booth cuz I'm your only exit out of here. Just let me know when you got to go.
Ah, yes. Jokes, finger guns. Um, yeah. No, some might worry about like, man, are those two going to be able to talk about things for 8 hours? And we say, oh, you poor soul.
Things and stuff.
Things that you wanted to hear about. We can talk. Hey, Raven.
Here he goes. Where are she? I'm nervous for my ability to do all the talking that I have to do for the entire weekend.
Yeah, after this I'm pretty much done. I got a women's a women's panel thing at 8 on Friday. Uh so I got to got to go to that. But on that Yeah. Quiet week for me. Oh yeah.
Not for you though. You got Jack drinks for Jack.
Uh I'm on CBS tomorrow morning. I'm on WGN Friday morning. I got uh four different interview panels over the weekend. [Music] No sleep. [Music]
All right. He's got all of those things. CVS, that's the sandwich that you ate earlier.
Yeah, it was uh chicken bread and sauce.
Chicken bacon sandwich.
The chicken bacon sandwich.
King Kong. Kong. Kong. Kong. All right. Hit multiol. The most boring of the ones, I got to tell you. I'd rather watch any of the others. Just shoot the magnet all day.
Let's talk about that. Magnets in pinball.
They always scare me.
Yeah. I mean, outside of their like unpredictability. There's um you know, wear and also heat management.
Yes. Fire.
Heat management is a big thing.
If anything's going to catch on fire, it's nice. That's fun. That's fun.
That was great.
They should make that into an award. We did on Jaws.
Oh, really?
Yeah. The uh
Oh, yeah. The little post.
Close call. It's close call,
which I named I named that.
You named it the close call.
Yeah, it says close call.
Um, but yeah. No, in terms of magnets, I'm trying to think of my favorite magnet in pall,
which is kind of a weird.
It's Multiball from Dracula.
Yeah. Yeah. There's no I I will stop thinking about it. That wins.
Yeah. Mist multiball is one of the funnest multiball starts. Yeah.
Other than Showtime. But in terms of like qualifying it, that is so much fun
because it looks like magic.
It is magic. There's no magnet.
Yeah. There's nothing under Actually, there's nothing under that game.
No magic into that that game.
There's actually a Dracula in the game.
Yes. And Dracula has telekinesis powers. Um but yeah. Okay. Yeah, that wins. Otherwise, I off the top of my head, I would have said um probably something like Twister.
Okay. So, the magnet on a spinning disc.
Yeah. And I like I like how it starts because the it's like a wire feed, a wireframe that feeds, loads it, then spins. It feels like the whole game is kind of It's kind of a larger saucer.
Dwight tried to replicate that a little bit on turn.
And it does it well, too. I like how the flipper is the thing that feeds it.
Exactly.
Yeah. It's very smart. Very smart.
Yeah. softwarely controls the flipper.
That's a solid shot to the pit. Oh, nice post pass on a key.
Oh, an extra pit.
Yeah, are nice today.
Dead bounds.
All right, so Nick versus Steve is 0 to zero. Dalton versus Vos 3 to one Dalton and Ray and Bowen is tied one to one. And the Carl Weathers is a balmy as 70 degrees. It is [Music] morning 15 minutes.
Captain speaking.
We'll be actually 60°
cruising at about 30,000 ft.
I told you.
Hi, Mom and Dad.
That That was from yesterday.
Oh crap. Never mind.
Flippers applauding. That's what it means to flip is just the game of plotting.
Oh,
that's gonna be close.
One
one. Which means that
one of the two.
Somebody won.
Oh, I don't know. I felt like I was paying attention, but I wasn't.
We're regressing.
Yeah. You know that moment when you think you're listening to somebody and then you realize that you definitely weren't?
You just noises were happening into your ears, but you were thinking about something else.
Yeah.
Has that been like the last hour for you?
Or when you ready?
Are you on the call?
Sounds like we might be on No, we're sticking with them. Jurassic Park. some paddock in the triceratops paddic.
Triceratops.
I'm gonna do I'm doing a alternative seat.
My butt's turning into hamburgers sitting on this chair.
There we go.
All right. Yeah. So, like Entarium has a ton of games, but where are these coming from? Is this Entarium or are they
That's a wonderful question. I I believe they live here. Yes.
Okay. Okay, that makes sense. They're all pros. Um, but yeah, no, walking the line. It was It was fun to look at all the games here. Uh, there's a game that kind of looks like Doodlebug but wasn't called Free Time or something.
I don't have my glasses.
It's It's an EM back there that it's It's got all of the Doodle Bug except the doodle and the uh flippers that drain and you cradle.
Are you looking for your phone?
You know what's funny? I'm reading chat and then I'm looking for my phone at the same time. Oh.
All right. Anyway, we're on Jurassic Park.
Here we go.
Looks like we're starting a paddic or capturing a dinosaur. Yeah,
there you go. All right, stand up. Oh,
beautiful. That was awesome. Oh, no. It's on the
No, easy. He's just that fast.
Oh, wait. It was on the S, too.
26. That's the quickest completion of anything to date.
A new record. I I put away my my good pen, but I still have it. 28
26.2.
I don't have a fun fact for 26.2.
Uh 26
I got another
somebody look it up. Get someone find a fact. 26.2.
I'm going to I'm just going to type this in just to see. Is the st 20 26.2 2 miles is the standard length of a marathon.
Now you know
we got it, guys. We found it. All right, Jared needing to do this fast. He doesn't have uh Well, he's got the left ramp for a rescue. He's going to go for that one. And now, let's see if he can ski on right up on in there. He does. He We can tell it's the same. Shoot the ass. He got it.
Oh, he 21.
That's a new record.
And that's the win for Jared also. Holy cow. That was a double world break.
The world just broke.
That was a world record being broken by a world record back to back.
Well, 26.2 miles doesn't have a a finger on 21.6.
Uh, and to be continued on what that means.
21.6.
I love that 26.2 was like a very
the exact marathon.
Yeah. Uh folks, we're at Interarium today uh on this fine Wednesday with the Stern Pro Circuit Finals looking up what 21.6 stands for. It doesn't mean
nothing like the shot.
It's just numbers. It's
literally nothing. Those three numbers have never been together.
You've seen it first here.
Uh there's a game that is on version 21.6.
Okay.
AMD driver.
Oh, it's on.
Oh. a driver for a graphics card.
A AMD is on 21.6 version right now.
Shout out AMD.
So that's um
how we're going to remember that.
Big shout out to Mountain Dew for sponsoring Stern Pinball and IFPA. Uh I'm Jack Danger. With me is Elizabeth Kieski.
Uh drinking her cold bubbly beverage.
Uh Mountain Dew.
We are uh
the brown kind.
The brown kind. Yeah.
Uh we're approaching hour seven of sitting here and talking to you about pinball.
Yeah. Thank you for sticking with us, especially for the times that we had no idea what you guys were saying. We do now and we look upon it occasionally. Uh when we forget about what we're trying to be talking about, it's always nice to glance at. So, thank you so much for for sticking here with us.
Absolutely.
Not not bad. So, hi. Hi, uh Europe. Yeah, go ahead. from Brown.
But I I want to know where you guys are from. If if you could, I will get some shout outs to the cities that we're we're all we're all from. Not everyone is from Chicago. Believe it or not,
believe it or not,
Chicago's the best.
Yeah. Right next to
Oh, that drop from Nick.
Very pretty. All right, we're starting Sparky here. Uh the center target gives double progress. The the feet also count.
Nice read. That is some That is somebody that hasn't had to play all day.
That is some quick reflexes.
There you go.
More shots.
Get it.
All right. All right.
One more to the table. The scores table.
One more to qualify.
Okay. One more to start.
Get it.
Nice.
There it is.
53 seconds. Finland, Jacksonville, Florida, Atlanta, SLCU, uh, did I just spell something? Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands. Did you write something?
No.
Oh,
man. Look at that. Okay, so the one's from Sweden. Can you tell me if Arvid is from Sweden? And if that's how you pronounce his name, that'd be great. Nashville.
Tennessee. Wait, you're from Oh, Kentucky.
Close enough. That so far that's closest to me. LA, Cleveland, Germany.
What time is it in Europe right now?
Ei,
is that is that early for you guys or late for you guys? Early, right? Late late.
Lexington, Kentucky. Why hello there,
B Riley. Oh, that's your That's your mom.
No, I don't. Yeah, I recognize that that handle.
Antarctica. Okay.
Awesome.
Arbit is from Sweden.
Nailed it. You see, I speak things into existence. Uh I I create Mandela effects.
I'm starting to believe that's
We're getting more numbers here. Oh, so is that that Germany 10:30 p.m. is late? It is late. Or is that Japanese?
What time is it here? Oh, it's 3:30.
Nice, man. There are so many people in the chat here. Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for hanging out. Jack Studio, please get out of my studio.
9:26 morning or evening. It could go either way. We're not sure.
Is it the B? Uh not to be confused with Baba O'Reilly, which is uh would have been my music league choice for this week. It was a like teenage uh stick it to the man song. Um what's the word? Rebel, like rebellious,
angsty, rebellious. Yep.
You know.
Yo, Dustin, I appreciate you, bud. Thank you.
3 hours south of Yagpin in Calgary. That is
a beautiful part of the country. I I have I spent 15 days uh hiking around uh western part of Canada.
Okay.
All the way up to B. Jasper was my favorite, but yeah, Vancouver to up to Vamp and then I kind of came back around and it was gorgeous. I've never seen water so clear.
Yeah, that's wild. I used to live in Newf Finland, Canada for several years. It's the island part of Newfoundland, not the mainland. And you can just look out and see like whales and stuff jumping out of the water. It's insane.
Oh my goodness. Wow. We need Yep. The Who. Yep. The Who.
That's right. I saw The Who live.
Who few years ago?
BC is freaking beautiful.
Yeah. Everyone, you should go.
Yeah.
All right. Steven Bowen,
he's going to hit the pit.
Hit the pit.
This has definitely been the um most popular choice. Yeah, we've seen a lot of pit usage.
Yep. Feel the pit. Oh,
hello from France. Bonjour.
Bonjour. Sorry uh to all the French listeners about my horrible French. Uh that's the sentence.
He is not having having any luck on this game at the moment.
He's got 10 balls.
B. Almost got it. All right. They're Oh. Ah, man. That is just rough.
What is this format? You're looking at a What's this format?
This is called a It's a style and heads up. Okay. If you're familiar with pin golf, it's similar to that. We are going for objectives in the quickest time possible.
There you go.
So, whatever that is, in this case, starting hit multiball. Once you do, you immediately stop playing and slap those hands on the timer behind you, which stops the clock. We write it down and then uh whoever wins gets to move on.
Absolutely.
You get 10 balls or 10 minutes to try to achieve what's going on, but obviously you want to do it as quick as possible.
Indeed. In first two, uh it's it's a head-to-head match, so it's one v one. And whoever gets best of 11, so first to six moves on to the next round. So that took Steven Bowen
1 minute 20. Okay. I do wish I've been like writing down.
Yeah, I kind of me too. I would like to see what the fastest was for each of these.
I wonder if anyone's writing that down
or if we're just writing the wind.
Someone has like they they have sheets that and they write down uh what
time.
Yeah. Because they got to know if they win or not. Especially when it comes down to 04 seconds, right?
Somebody
I'm ready.
If I were to say Hey Now, what song do you think
you're an allar?
Uh, but some might think it's that song. Hey,
hey now. Hey now. This is what dreams.
Liz Magcguire. Or there's a Hey now. Hey now. going over.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
All right, we're going to start karaokeing for you now.
Yeah, we're we're just getting demonetized over here. Sorry. Um,
next one goes out to Paul McFillips.
You're my fave.
Yeah, we'll talk about our karaoke go-tos, but for now
Oh, to be with you by Mr. Big
for Ho.
Oh, for karaoke.
Oh, for car. Okay. Okay. Mine would probably be
I have done karaoke at the Texas pinball. Were you there?
No, but you're making it sound like you've only done it once.
I did it like twice. I don't do karaoke often. Both times.
Well, you don't hang out with John Borg.
Funny. No. Yeah, it's so true. Both times I've done karaoke. I've only done foreign language songs in languages. I don't know. It's
like the German version of 99 Red Balloons.
Yeah. 99 loop balloons. Yeah, that one. and Dragon Stay. Dragon Don't stay the Maya song.
May
that's the one.
Okay.
Did
And boy goodness, people were like, I didn't know you were Romanian.
Nope.
And I'm like, we a banger of a song.
It was fun. No, it's it gets the party started.
Maya.
Yeah. Salute.
Salute.
Sal. I don't think humans are meant to sit and do commentary for this long.
Yeah, we might have to do a lot.
Oh boy. Goodness. Okay, so I think uh this timer is already uh kind of expired in a way.
Yeah, someone needs to tap.
These are just some free flips here.
Tappy tap.
Come on, Sharp. Get it together. Get your head together.
Get it. Get it. Get it. Get it. So, Steven Bowen has taken his second uh win in this round. Looks like we've done all of round two, half of round three. We can already see who our quarterfinalist buys are not buys, but our mover's honors.
Wow. It's going to go quick now.
Yep.
Just uh not not I mean
I mean I don't really think it is though. I mean, maybe. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just that many people and then
Yeah.
Uh I don't know. It's hard to tell. I hopefully we're not halfway through.
It's kind of feeling that way. [Music]
Hard to tell. But yeah, maybe maybe in the future. Uh best of best of
911 two.
Oh, sudden death.
You either win or lose. Get out of the way.
At that point, you might as well just play a full game.
Yeah.
Yeah. Uh, man, I haven't been playing in a lot of tournaments lately. I've been kind of great. I've had a little bit of a break. I I did go up to the barn.
Okay.
Or
is that uh Tilt?
Yeah. Tell me with Trent for the summer thing, the summer pinball thing.
Uh, it was fun. We did uh pin golf and then uh match play.
So, best of both worlds.
Heck yeah.
All right. Steven Bowen is going to start feeding Frenzy.
Going to be hitting some targets.
Interesting that he's turning counterclockwise.
No, he's going clockwise. He's going clockwise.
All right. Good feed there.
Excellent chumming.
He's uh just practicing for later.
There we go.
Excellente. Oo, two queen splits the diff through the uprights. All right. Good feed. And smacked it. Yeah, he got one of them.
Oh. Oh, he did. Okay.
I don't know why I really thought he was going to just shoot the right one
cuz you can backhand the other
one time. Ah, not quite.
I thought it flip locked.
It It did. It flip locks to stop for the mood start right there.
Oh, sure.
Good hit.
All right. So, uh,
good recovery, too.
Two more here.
Man, filling your beaches early in the game is like super critical. This is actually a really good idea for someone that is wanting to get their points higher
to start feeding frenzy off the rip
to no to start to get all of your beaches pulled and closed.
Oh, sure.
Because the start the the tower targets are also adding beach goers around. And once you uh collect all three, that closes the beach. And then uh if you collect the hurry up, that that gives a percentage of your hurry up value is added on to the shot every time it's lit for anything.
Oh yeah.
Multiball modes.
No kidding. Oh no.
He was riding riding the wave. That was I've never seen that before. So yeah, if you are at home and are thinking, I am I haven't gotten my billion on Jaws. I'm so close. Consider getting binoculars for one. Closing a few beaches first and then doing the rest of your game.
Like so. See, it's so easy. You only need 10 balls to do it.
Just hit the shot.
Just miss shots like a lot.
All right, that's going to pause for him. He's going to have to flip through this bounty hunt selection.
Bounty hunt. Just take whatever.
Yeah, make him All right, one more target here.
Oh, I thought he was going to get that.
Start start fish finder. You could
He's getting cheeky with that back flip.
You wouldn't think it's there.
Oh, there you go.
Got it. All right, that's it.
223.
Not Not at 26.2 or 21.6. Oh yeah. Easiest way to get the extra ball as well at eight beach growers. Like once you collect eight or add eight beach blowers, you get an extra ball for free. This is one of those rare examples. I was talking with another designer at Stern and we were discussing all of the um games that either uh hold the ball for extra ball and does a presentation or awards you off of a target or whatever.
Um this is one of the examples of of a target, but I would say most games is a shot.
I prefer a hard to hit target that awards you the ball because it is a riskreward. Um, similar to like white water, right? It's like if you want to shoot for that,
go nuts, but you're probably going to drain kit in the thing.
Smart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like we
So that's the guy that did Poo Fighters.
Yeah, we have it on food.
Yeah, that that was my first example of Yeah. Like Poo Fighters. Fighters and there you go. That's actually been a common discussion actually in in the Zoom of uh what uh there there's been some arguments over catching for extra ball versus uh presentation.
Yeah. Well, pres presentation and flow and you know
I think like the idea of holding the ball to play some like fun video is great but I think a lot of people just want the ball.
Yeah. I find people just like skipping through, but like the argument is like an extra ball is the biggest award in a pinball machine.
Yeah.
Um I think that's arguable anyway, but I mean the these are all just opinions and
uh as long as you can respect each other and that you know we're all we're all cool here.
We're all we're all in it to win.
It is interesting on how often this conversation has been brought up, especially lately. I don't want to be anything.
The the the brown dew's got you singing song blowing. All right. Trying to hit that right standup target. It's such a tricky one. It's only it's the only target you hit, but
Oh, yeah. Kiss.
There you go.
All right.
It is hard to tell when you start that mode because it's just it's it's supposed to feel like it's kind of a a surprise.
It just sort of happens.
Yeah. And it's kind of intentional for that way because if you can plan for it, that means you're going to be able to kind of plan out a multiball more easily and you know really like utilize it in a way that cuz feeding frenzy is like extremely important. That's another thing. I mean like stand up targets, feeding frenzy, adding beachgoers do that early in your game and that's where the points are cuz feeding frenzy you get that bonus
money that carries over
from ball to ball. Yeah. And it builds the next time you're in feeding frenzy you're starting with a value from your previous one. Oh, yeah. Like bats and rats from um Ram Stokers.
Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
Bats and rats. You get the bats. You get the rats.
You get the gnats.
I haven't gotten the nats before.
The natural 20.
Internet. I'm I'm fading.
I'm coming back. This is great.
Yeah, your caffeine's working. I think I They gave me decaf coffee. Yeah, it didn't that didn't do anything for me. But you you might be counteracting with that depressant over there.
Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. Stop depressing me, bro.
Brhum brown and dew.
Brown dew.
Brown dew. Uh yeah, this is what the original Mountain Dew looks like. Um at least when you mixed it.
Yeah, it's called organic. Uh
yeah, cane sugar. That's what it Yeah. Organic crae sugar. It makes it darker.
True.
What do you think? Spam. Think of spam.
Uh oh. Yeah, your Coinbase has been hacked.
Oh man, I need to call this number immediately.
Not my bitcoins.
You know the the messages with the toll br toll. Uh
I got everybody.
This the toll scams that that one's harder to to catch. Obviously, I didn't fall for it. Um, but it was one where I was like, man, that's a pretty impressive message right there that I I felt that for a second. Like I felt the urgency of like because I've had that message, right, of you need to figure
like crap. Yeah. My thing didn't work or I like ran through something I didn't realize.
Yeah. Or or I crossed in Indiana that one time.
Not a lot of tools in in Kentucky.
Do you do you fly here or drive here?
I fly here. Um, unless I'm getting a ride from somebody and then I will sit in a car, but I just will not drive. Normally, uh, I can't sit for all that much long
as you sit here for eight hours.
But, uh, it's it's more comfy than than a car.
I mean, it's becoming less comfortable, that's for sure.
It's still better than a car. As long in a car, I feel like your hips are tangled and we're not with your big old truck.
A big old pickup truck like sitting up there. Yeah.
All right. Start bird. Start the bird. We're going to hit the uh drop targets. Clear all three of them. Shoot the center shot that says block. Do that three times and then uh bada boom bada bang. I'm getting you know what would be fun?
Uh betting money on this. Just kidding. That's illegal.
Definitely not going to do that. I It would be funny if it was if it were start the final wizard mode.
Oh my god.
Good luck on this game.
You get Godzilla out here. Uh King of the Monsters. Heads up. 10 balls. 10 balls. It's just uh if you get it, f you because you just made us sit through that.
Yeah. Yeah.
But 10 balls, you know, you can do it.
Oh, yeah. No.
Except uh finding that that last Godzilla power up. Man, grinding those those power ups.
What a game.
It's a good one. One of the two I own.
Got
Yep. It's good, too. I feel like it's a good uh they're like kind of opposing in terms of
complexity I would say.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I'm one I'm one that I will find a reason to like any game pretty much like there isn't a game where I'm like I will walk away like if there is a free credit on a game.
Oh 100%. I I'll play anything. Yeah. I won't discriminate if I'm not having to pay for it.
Yeah. There is one time when I walked by Oh, two. Okay, hear me out.
Okay, be careful if you're about to talk trash.
No, it's happening, guys. Ready to clip this? I walked by a free credit of Bugs Bunny Birthday Bash.
No,
I walked by it.
I love the idea of that game. It just isn't fun at all.
I'm like, why where are my outlanes? So, I kind of miss those. Uh yeah, I
I want the concept of that to work so well and it just it it just isn't there.
I didn't have time to play that game.
Didn't have walked by it. Uh the other one I I walked by and this one is I it's again like there nothing against this game. This game is so cool,
but I wanted to play a game of pinball and this is a core example of pinball.
Okay. Orbiter 1,
which is a very cool game. Yeah. But it's not exactly like if you want to play pinball, I'm not going to bring you to Orbiter One.
Um,
have have you talked to Gary Stern about Orbiter 1 and like the the guy from NASA who invented the toilets, who was the dude that made the playfield for that?
Really?
Yeah.
No, it's freaking wild.
All right. Is he nothing but good things to say?
Yeah, he's the toilet guy from the spaceships. I don't know. [Music] art. Uh George um told uh uh my designer to rename one of his files because it's called the toilet.
The toilet.
Okay.
It has nothing to do with anything. It's just it's called the toilet. And George is like, "No, you got to change that." So
the the naming Okay.
Yeah.
I What is with this?
I don't want him to look at my desktop. Like if I can't think of something, I'll just name something like fart or poop. Um,
oh, well,
it is what it is.
All right, chat. So, sorry that we haven't been commentating.
Just
Sorry. Oh, it's
um I um Okay, a minute to beat is 2 minutes 18. Uh he's making great progress actually here. I think this is 30 seconds in. He's already making four progress towards the second ball lock. He needs one more drop target here.
Who's driving the stream? Big shout out to you. All the overlays are crucial to keep track of what's going on. Hell yeah.
Yeah. Actually, if anyone is on it, we're not. Mark over here.
He's we're we're just here to make some noise in your ear holes, but Mark's uh keeping track of the challenges and times and stuff. That way uh you know there there isn't a whole lot of guessing going on,
right? And he's been on it.
We've only lost audio only twice.
Never. Actually,
I've always been able to hear you. Yeah, I've heard you, too. Uh so I don't I don't know. I don't know. I I think he was just giving these people a break from our our voices for a second.
We can't hear you talk about toilets.
Oh, pass on Guns and Roses and Godfather. I I could see that.
Orbiter one. Come on, bro.
Orbiter one and Orbit Night.
I don't know. There's a heart blocking it.
There's a heart blocking. All right, one more lock. Is this the last one?
So, are we 139 right now? It's going to be close. I think there's maybe 40 seconds left.
Get it up. Give it up. Get up. Get up.
Rattler.
All right. Another That is an oddly difficult shot,
especially from the right. But you can do it. Oh, no. Yeah. No,
I think
there it is. There it is.
Was that only two? No.
Okay. Got it.
He has 10 seconds left to Oh, wait. Oh [ __ ]
Oh, that was fast. This might happen.
Is it?
It catch.
It did it. Oh my god.
He got it.
Oh,
it hung up. Sorry for yelling. Light lock I have ever seen. What was that? A sweep.
He hit it and it just kept bouncing off of a a post right here.
Oh my gosh. I I closed my eyes for a second.
That was phenomenal.
And the shot where it was like, is it going to make it? So, it's it's probably not on a timer. It might
Yeah, it's probably not on a timer.
I want to look at the code on how they uh did that shot and
Oh, that it's not on a timer for Yeah.
Yeah. Well, there's two ways to do it, right? There's
you time it or it's a sequence.
It's a sequence. Yeah. And uh on all the games I've worked on, it's only been timers. It's got Yeah. I don't know why we don't do sequence more often. Usually sequences aren't great because of flaky switches that can
also a ball can like fly through the air or like you don't.
Well, I mean flying through the air is always going to be a problem even with timers. Like if that switch is not going to be a hit, that's a problem. It's more of like if you have a sling that kind of just like activates,
you know, but then you can you can ignore certain switches. Okay.
So that's often that that's often the case actually for you you ignore spinners. Um, and Rick the way he codes it, he makes virtual switches a thing. So there's like there's virtual well there's like it's more like a virtual shot. So like he has a list of shot of these left orbit, right orbit and that is like a culmination of these timers happening and the switches happening. So right orbit is two shots really two switches
but he has a shot ID for the beginning of a spinner, the end of a spinner, every individual spin, you know. So,
holy moly. Yeah. So,
and do you guys share these libraries or is it a
I mean, everyone has it has kind of like made their own way.
Okay.
But, um, like there's Rick's code is an obvious uh child of Dwight's code.
Okay.
So, it was easy for me to switch from Rick to Dwight, but hard enough to be like, where's where's my mood manager? Uh, why where uh Dwight, you know?
Okay. So yeah, no, like but like going forward, yeah, I brought I brought in some of that, but yeah, things like blowing off the uh background the the display effects, that's also something that's different uh per designer.
Oh, really?
Yeah. like uh like the code checks, but Rick has a uh does it by flags and Dwight does it by um uh putting that code in in into each display effect
uh function. So anyways, boring uh
technically
but yeah, no, I think that the the way the shot ID thing is handled, uh Dwight doesn't do that. He um he makes function calls off of the switch dispatch. Instead of making a new shot ID, he he just directly calls what he wants
from from the the dispatch function.
Yeah. Before this, Guido's like, Elizabeth, don't talk about code uh when you're when you're going onto these streams. Okay. Uh
oh, is that what he said?
No, not really.
One 011.
This might be a stuck bot. So, they went over this beforehand. If there is a stuck ball, you can restart. That's what they said.
Is that what they said?
Yeah, they said that.
You didn't though.
It must have not been stuck enough.
But if it was like a truly stuck ball
like jumped in the air, locked to the side of the cabinet.
Yeah. Then uh they would have reset the timer.
Oh, it tells you to go home. You should do a stream of all that boring programming. Oh, yeah.
Do a stream of all that boring programming stuff.
Yeah. Boring. Boring. you know, I wouldn't want to when I want to I always laugh when um it's like the artists going for, you know, the the behind the scenes talk or like the making of videos and like the mechanical engineers bring in their CAD drawings and the skulls and stuff and I'm like, boy, if I brought in my like
let me print it out.
Yeah, look at
on a plotter. It's just me smiling putting it up on a fridge like I did it.
Look what I did, Mom.
It's called this function. So what programming language do you use?
We use C++ um which means that we only cause ourselves problems some of the time.
Okay.
Uh C++ allows you to have a lot of control over memory. So you can specifically tell like uh like where things are being placed in memory and allocated but also like point to things in memory instead of like the actual object itself. It's just like pointing to a spot in memory. So it's like very like versatile and lightweight. You can like pass these pointers around instead of whole objects.
Oh, okay.
So, you have a function. It's like, all right, I got this big burly object here. It's like a big old vector object full of standard uh strrus and got all whatever. And that's like a big that's a big beefy thing. You don't want to be passing that around, right?
You know, pass a pointer that just points to the spot in memory instead. So, that's just
So, would you like preload that when the game starts and then since now it's in memory and you could just
Yeah. Yeah. And you got to be careful though because if you start passing around pointers to things that are just pointing to random places in memory, you got to be sure.
Oh, that memory isn't going to change.
Yeah. And that happens and that often cause crashes.
Okay.
Which are hard to find because you're you're debugging and you're like, why is this variable this random jibly gunk or whatever? And it's
because the memory replaced itself.
Yeah. Yeah. So that can that can kind of run into problems. Well, that that's a side effect of using C++ that often people kind of like, you know, kind of uh uh shake their heads at um is that the the language you can do it whatever you want with it, but the downside is that it lets you do whatever you want with it,
right? You are your own worst enemy in that regard.
Yeah, you got to be careful, you know, with with especially passing around pointers, but it's so much fun. Just just finger
pointer over here.
Everybody point to the box to your left.
Mhm. Start gelled cube. All right.
Yep. Yep.
Shoot the left orbit. Shoot the left ramp. Shoot the left orbit. Shoot the left ramp.
I really like that cube box thingy.
It's pretty cool.
Um, someone has uh that in their office and they got like a multicolor lamp thing in it or whatever.
Oh, isn't that on Chuck's desk?
Yeah. Yeah. It was like the example that they used initially.
It's pretty cool.
And it it has like this cool light effect in it. I like that the the double use of the magnet on this game where you're using the top and the bottom side which is kind of cuckoo.
Yeah, it is. This one uses the magnet a lot. It uh it's a heavy magnet user game.
Oh, someone just slammed the game.
All right. Good control getting it over to the left ramp. Not quite. Uh
now we were discuss discussing this before. We don't remember if the you have to hit the left ramp or the left orbit again to lower the ramp. It looks like you do.
I think it does reset um on the harder difficulty question.
Maybe just on any difficulty. I It might just be the thing.
All right, we got some score updates here. Uh Ray versus Bowen. We got Ray in the lead with four to three. Zack McCarthy versus Dalton. It's Zach McCarthy 5 to four Dton and Danielle and Luke. It's 40 Danielle.
Daniel was doing he he was hot.
Yeah, he was hot.
He's doing the thing. You traveled far enough for it. You got to make sure it's worth.
Nerd talk with Geeseki. That's right.
Geese.
I don't know what I'm talking about, guys. Don't listen to me. I I'm sure other programs.
We're on hour 19 of
I'm surprised no one's wanting to use the shield here. I I'm noticing that.
Yeah. So, that that's something I I saw really early that, you know, people are picking the character to help with that, but they're not
never using the shield. And we saw it before. It was a clean left orbit.
And it's it honestly it's only four shots. So, like lift the thing up. I bet you boom, boom, bam,
boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom. Want to see something permanent?
There you go.
All right. One more shot. Okay. as in shoot the start. Oh, wait. No, we're not doing dragon.
Ray versus Bowen. Bowen.
Few more left. Just one more. One more. [Music]
I was also confused there. I thought that was the left final left that they needed. But
that is a goose and a key. Hey. Yeah, Gizki. That's right. One of these days, I'm going to convince an artist to hide something with a goose and a key in the back.
Oh, dude. Why would you go at her?
Because the artists have better things to do than
No, they actually don't.
They are not doing anything.
They sit there sitting on their hands uh waiting around.
Um, all three of my games have a an Easter egg for my uh kiddos.
Oh, yeah. You'll have to find them internet.
Okay. Yeah.
It's a It's a hot dog and a hamburger for Frank and Chuck, my uh my kiddos.
I I'll be on the lookout.
They're hiding.
It's in Jurassic Park X-Men.
Fighter.
What if I just walk out there and start playing?
What if you walk out there, start Rubik's cubing?
Oh man, he's got a cube. I can't believe people know how to use those things.
Oh, cubers.
Yeah,
you've never uh solved one.
Remember what?
You never solved one?
No. God, no. No.
It's just a bunch of steps. It's like a recipe,
right? Um
not really good at following directions.
Well, I I saw one where it was like a Tik Tok where it's like, "Do this three simple thing and you'll get through it." But then all the comments are like, "You're lying. This is stupid." So, I don't trust anything.
I wouldn't either. No, it's not it's not very simple things, but I mean
Tik Tok
there's certainly the uh Yeah, you make the white cross and then you solve the first layer and then uh do the second layer.
Really?
Yeah. You make a white cross first and that's all you need to do.
How do you do that?
Uh
oh, you mean on on one side?
On one side. The white side. So, as long as you can finagle your way through that,
that's the first
to get the cross.
Yeah, that's the first step.
Then you work from there.
Yeah. And then you can follow all the directions.
Okay.
All right.
Steven Bowen starts off
game ever. Jaws.
All right. We're starting
Jaws multiball. You got to shoot that captain ball there. He's missing. He's left right.
Get them chums. Chum. Come on, chum. Okay, there we go. I will say that that's a odd shot when you're trying to shoot for it. All right, kind of wasting to some time here. It's nice when you can just repeat the center ramp uh to fill in the chum line, but you can just keep hitting the chum bucket.
Keep chuming it.
Keep on chuming. I've never got myself into trouble by misspelling the word chum. Never.
All right, get some right orbit in there. Uh Excellent work.
Can't ricochet.
If he were doing feeding frenzy, he'd be he'd be
all right. I keep getting confused cuz he's like knocking those out.
Yeah, he's got uh it looks like two more on the chum line. Yep. Two more.
That looks like one.
There's a little Yeah. No, it's two. Dang it. Dang it. I didn't I didn't do that for a go. No, I didn't. I think Brett did the effect of that chum line.
Hit the bucket. Uh, shout out to Brett Z Rubin who makes these games pop. He does a lot of the light shows across all of the games, but especially Keith ones.
Yeah.
And uh yeah, a lot of this beautiful uh he I I asked I I I talked to him about it and now he's created a group on Slack called Light Club.
Light club.
We don't talk about light club. Can't talk about light club.
But he's been sharing with uh me, Josh, Andrew. Like we just we talk about lights and stuff and
get some knowledge from him because he's the best in the biz when it comes to light shows.
A good light show can really make or break an experience.
No, it's true. Yeah. He he uh he paints pictures of lights.
That's what he said he does. He looks at the inserts and see if there's anything that has a pattern to it. Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah. So, like on Godzilla, he found a uh there it actually looks like an Eiffel Tower when you look at certain inserts like the whole thing
like on Kong.
No, on Godzilla.
Oh, Godzilla.
Like think think about the the building at the top with those lights how it's straight up. Okay.
And then towards the bottom there's the uh the um allies on the right. How like branches there and then on the left there's the I don't know lights over there
and it makes this shape. and he's like, "Yeah, so when you go to Paris, you that's this light show and it's the Eiffel Tower and it's France."
Um, but I I don't know where that that light show is exactly being used, but I it's somewhere.
That's awesome.
Oh, yeah. Night search multiball with the broom light and yeah, night swim as well with the lights being turned off.
Blinded by the Dwight. Dwight Dwight uses lights how lights are supposed to be used as bright as possible.
Yeah, the dimming of the lights on this one is something that we uh didn't put into the game right away. Um but uh it was being asked for a lot and uh it was kind of like a you know what, let's just do it. Let's let's put it in. It's a it's it's a good idea. It's a kind of an easy win. It's not that hard.
Thank you.
Uh to make it happen. It's hard for me to make it happen. I I stink at light shows and things, but uh Brett wrote some code to make it dim, but also made the lanterns on the inlanes.
Oh, they kind of they flicker. They do they do a flicker effect.
Cute.
So, it's not We had like three different versions which in the adjustments you can set to each where it's like super dark. It's literally called super dark, dim, and then just bright. Um by default, it's the dim one.
The dim sun.
The dim sun. So yeah.
What's your next game, Jack? Um, my next game was taken over by another designer. So I my last game was X-Men.
Yeah, I'm taking over.
Geese is uh designing it for me.
Yeah, I'm so good at it.
I appreciate you uh handling it.
Don't worry. No. I I All I did was take what you did and put it over there.
Excellent work. uh coming to you soon. No, if I if I were to just I I don't think I
I would love to see I think everyone
with the access to the lab we have everyone should have some sort of active homebrew game. I I mean cuz I'm sure you could think of something weird that other people who normally build these wouldn't think about because you you aren't
handcuffed by knowing the restrictions of life.
True. True. Okay. Yeah. I'd be I'd be only putting bad ideas in. I saw your uh spinner wherever uh the uh infinite spinner shot.
Oh yeah.
How many spinners was that?
It's only 11.
Only 11.
Uh but it'll be available at expo.
Uh hopefully flipping soon. I didn't have time to secure a flipper button to it, so I just screwed an extra uh standup target to it. So you can just touch the target to make the flipper go. It'll be really weird.
Yeah. You know, I I love crazy. Um it is funny how people like when you talk about designs, it's how I talk about rules and where in a way where it's like I got this like super dumb idea.
Anyway, so then I I did it. Uh
and so I do it.
So I did it. Oh my gosh. I love I have I have laughed out loud while I was coding like I can't believe I'm doing that.
That and also laughed in a maniacal sense of like I have. I have.
I love that.
All right, it looks like we are capturing a dinosaur. Let's shoot some hoops. And by hoops, I mean rescue shots. Fun fact, there's rescue shots in every one of Keith's games.
Every one of them?
No, just two of them. But it is funny that it happened twice.
Rescue JP and Oh, Jaws. Yeah.
Oh, the backhand didn't quite work for him. So now he's going to have to hit the left because the the uh truck is in the way.
Wait, you got it.
Yeah, you did it on the left. Going
just like I said just as I mapped it up.
It's kind of fun with this because you know how fast you get the dinosaur on lock. Like this is pretty fast, but we've seen faster because someone shot on the S. Yeah.
But it's already rogue to the A
or the the O. Um so that that's kind of a tell on how quickly the captured dinosaur.
Yeah. Just kidding.
Let's tip over.
Wait till it moves left. Center shot. Center shot.
There we go. Yeah. Yeah.
Easy, buddy.
But again,
that's some time.
That is time that you lost.
You saw on S captured on S. 21.6.
O,
not as good as 26.2 just because of the miles situation, but 21.6.
Um, I am definitely a gem in the holograms. Guys, I went to see a G.I. Joe themed band. I'm sorry, a cobra themed band where at the end of the set, Gem from Gem and the Holograms in Trinity came out and performed with the villains from the GI Joe universe and it was incredible.
Nice.
It was a very small venue. Uh the band was called Cold Slither. Go look it up.
Oh, I've heard of that.
And it it was their debut show. It was freaking incredible.
All right. And uh yeah, every like in between songs, Cobra Commander would show up and like yell at them to like do stuff and
sick.
And the whole crowd's going like Cobra.
It was pretty cool.
What a time.
It was something else.
Yeah. Cold slither.
Yeah.
Coming to my team.
Oh, you know, are they British? Are they Australian?
It's a It's a band of different ethnicities. tell where the accent's coming from.
There's an Australian guy in there somewhere.
All right.
Oh, I like that. I'm assuming the laugh occurred when you allowed feeding frenzy to occur while scars is active. Uh, similar. I think I laughed specifically when I realized that the center ramp starts multiball and scars is the center ramp and I laughed out loud
cuz that's the last thing you want for scar. That was good cuz you got to you got to consider these things,
you know. You got to consider these things.
Yeah, that
cool.
And I I originally I made scars harder. Uh you couldn't bring up the value back up and um the shots were more difficult or something. And I made the captive ball also uh kill the shots value. Okay. So, as far as right now, it's like if you shoot the stand up targets, the the value of the shots decrements. And I made it so that if you like miss if you shot anything except the shots, I it decremented. Oh, man.
And it stayed decremented and it did it pretty quickly. Um, and then Keith got to the end of the mode and he's like, "My final shot was 500,000 points." And I was like, "Play better." And he's like, "Don't let that happen again." And I'm like, "Oh, this is my fault." Okay.
These are your ones and zeros.
Yeah. needed needed ones and zeros better. Um, but no, he was right. I I changed it and it's uh it's good. It's good. Heavy metal machine. We're not going to play the game no more.
Wait, I thought that was a Was is that a band within GI Joe?
It was a real band in the cartoon that had a very small presence. Um, and they made a whole real band out of it recently. And we had them at the Stern booth at Comic-Con to sign their very first public showing and LP.
We had them autographing. It was pretty cool.
Nice. Heavy metal team.
Yeah. Dragon. The spy on Puck was the other time I laughed out loud while I was coding. Man, these guys are good. These guys are good. They know. They They know the the things that I do. Pretty much anything that makes multi-holes worse, I laugh at and smile and uh like a lot. But that one was an interesting one. I I wanted uh when I was thinking about Spy on Puck. Sorry, I'm not talking about Dragon or uh Jurassic Park at all.
Dragon Park.
But um yeah. No. Uh, originally Spy on Puck, it was all about combos and if you missed a combo, that decremented the the the stealth value. I always had the stealth value thing, but I wasn't sure what decrements it. And so, for a while, it was if you missed a combo and it expired, that that decremented the value. Um, but later on, I came up with this like stealth I like refined the stealth rule to be slingbased because like those are loud. Slings are loud. Absolutely. Especially when you have the glass off. It's so loud.
It's like someone's filling horseshoes.
Like diesel feeds. But I remember I was sitting at my desk and I was like, "Wait, sounds stealth. Of course." What What's the loudest thing in pinball machines? Pop bumpers. Oh, there's no pop bumpers in this game.
Oh, slingshots.
Slingshots. We'll do that.
All right. Just needs the S if we're doing chaos, I assume. Oh, I missed the O.
Oh, the Award. You nailed it with the O. I'm so sorry, guys.
I smell like um
coffee.
Vitamin C. Like emergency. Like
like the powder from
Yeah, I smell it.
Vitamins.
Yeah. I'm just going to be breathing heavily for a second. Just like taking it in by proxy.
Mhm.
Health by proxy.
All right. Good bounce. Just needs the S here. A little early. Oh, I surprised he didn't want to.
Yeah.
Dead did flip it over.
Accidentally doing a good job of capturing it.
Have wondered about scoring and shot values is considered in a new game.
Yeah, a lot. I make spreadsheets.
Lots of Google It it it kind of starts small and it's like what makes you feel what do you consider as a shot value to make you feel good? Um as in a good award like in a you you you're in a multiball or like a a jackpot and you look up and you see a number and I'm like that's a good number. What what is that number for you? What' you say?
Millions.
How many are we talking? Like
if I like a two to five feels like a really good number.
Yeah. I would say like 10 million is like a super and five is like a very good
and two is like a more common but also good. It's like that that like layered and then like what for you is base uh it's like your your it's your first step in a progress. What's that value for you?
First step in a progress.
Yeah. for like you're you're making progress towards something like to qualify but you're giving an award because we always give awards like what's that value for you? I don't know. That's tough. A billion points.
Qualified multiball. 1 billion points.
1 billion.
Yeah. For me, it would be like 50k I would award for something that doesn't even show on a screen. It's 50k.
And then 150, it's a very small advancement. 250 is the most common thing I use is 250
that you will show on screen or that you'll just use as progression.
I mean that that's like you're in a mode and it's your first shot. It's worth 250 and then 500 is is like this is a little bit more than just a shot, but that's that's kind of my increments of progress. So yeah, I thought about it and that's what I that's what I think. And then there's increments. You get a shot value, but then you increment that shot value. How much do you increment, you know, and that's usually that's like somewhere between uh 100k and 100k?
Yeah. I I kind of stay at two 200.
Sometimes I just like the numbers to change more. So I do like 255.
Oh. Just so like all of the digits are kind of doing something. So just like one solid chunky number,
right? Cuz it for some reason like seeing a 655 makes me feel a lot better than just seeing a 700.
Yep. That's right.
More number.
More number. Yeah. No one likes to see a zero at all.
Yeah. Zeros are landing.
All right. We are tilting out because uh he is wanting the ball back quickly.
Yeah.
He's got 30 seconds left to get this O. And uh we were in I think we were in a T-Rex mode which would have locked you out. So that's what that was. That wasn't like frustration. That was
strategy. Couldn't yeah progress at all. [Music]
Just need the most difficult shot in pinball.
Make it prime numbers.
Oh yeah, there there's those people out there.
Everything is 3.1458926.
If only we could end in a nonzero.
You can uh but that lets you know that the game's messed up somehow.
It's true. It's true. Yep. Yep. chat. If you ever see a number that doesn't end in zero, you know we messed up.
Something's not right.
It's true. I have a uh I I was surprised that there wasn't a function in the system that uh pre like that prevents scores from doing weird things.
Oh yeah.
Um you have to do that on the game side.
Okay. Um, and I I made a little function myself kind of a little uh because I in in Jaws there's a lot of percentage based stuff like a lot of percentage based stuff with the the hurry up award. You take percentage of that. The shark encounter jackpot is percentage based. So whenever you take a percentage of a, you know, a round number, you might be ending with like who knows what. So, you have to uh divide by 100, mod by 100, depending on how many zeros you want to keep on. But really, you're just like there's a few ways to there's a few different ways to do it on forcing the last number to be zero. I like my way best.
Where I just write over the number with a zero.
No.
No.
I like uh Scott Danesi on TNA. use that last digit to let you know what reactor you were on.
So like that number didn't really officially count as part of your score, but if it said two or three or four or five, you knew what reactor that you finished.
Yeah, I I I tip my head. That's smart. Any way to utilize the UI without making a new
graphic or fun because it can get so busy on there, which is sometimes just needed and helpful. Like I I like Rush.
Yeah. I it tells me everything I need to know. It's all up there. But uh yeah, I mean as a beginner like it's a little it's a little daunting. And then you have
it's a lot of information on the screen.
Yeah. Unlike some other games.
Yep. All right. So we got to hit Winston. I think
Winston
that's
um
Yep.
Yes. Okay. One more in Winston.
Oh, big drain.
Some good progress though. Winston has been a little bit of a weird Sometimes you get a weird hit that doesn't qualify. Anything interesting here?
If your score ends in anything other than zero, then change it to zero. You're welcome.
Well, it's weird to do that. There's so many different ways to do that. You know, you have bits.
You have um
there bits and bites.
Nibbles. You know, there's a technical term for half of a bite or half of a bit and that's a nibble.
No way.
Yep. probably.
Google it.
Uh, I'm probably not.
How many How many nibbles is that?
Two. Uh, two nibbles is a bit and then four bits is a bite.
Is there like how many bites are in a chomp?
Wait. Oh, no. Uh, four four bits uh is a bite, right? Or is it eight?
Diesel piece. Uhoh.
Uhoh. I I'm American. Okay. I I only
This is like metric versus Imperial.
Uh anyway, shout out to Mountain Dew Stern Pinball and IFA for sponsoring this event today. We're at Interarium in Shamberg. This is the Stern Pro Circuit Finals where 32 people from around the world have come together uh after duking it out over 20 events to come here to battle for over $30,000 worth of cash and prizes. One of those prizes including a Stern Pro pinball machine. So, shout out to Stern for that. Thank you again, Mountain Dew, for sponsoring this. Um Mark Patnau, thank you for streaming all of this stuff. Elizabeth, thank you for sitting here and talking to me. many words at me with
so many lies I've been sharing.
Several languages.
Uh, one of which is eight bits is in a bite. How many is a nibble? Four bits is one nibble. Okay, I knew four was something.
How many bites are in a part?
Half of a bite is a nibble. And then a quarter, right? A half of Is that how the math works? Four by four.
Four bits equals one nibble. Eight bits.
Eight bits is a bite.
16 bytes is a chunk. which means two nibbles is a bite.
Okay. And a board. Uh Arvid versus Jack is tied two to two. Dan Yell is winning 5 to zero uh over Luke. That's your update.
In terms of weird words. This This goes further. It goes deeper than this, guys. The iceberg. Um in coding, we have weird names for things that happen in the game.
Uh tickles and jiggles.
Oh, tickles and jiggles.
Those are two real terms.
How many tickles are in a jiggle? No. Um, let me think. I It's one versus the other. I forget. Um, a tickle. A tickle is either when a multiball device is a thing. You have a multiball device and a ball kind of whispers past it, but doesn't actually lock in.
So, there's a switch. Yeah, that's a tickle.
Like, the switch is sensed, but it doesn't
That's not a necessary like universal programming term. That's a pinball programming.
That's a pinball programming term is a is a tickle. It's when a a multiball device senses a ball enter except it doesn't settle. It tickles.
And then a jiggle is when a multiball device has a ball inside of it.
Oh, multiple activation
and well a ball kind of leaves it when it and and it it kind of Yeah. It's like it's locked in. Say it's full. Yeah. And then as some switch activity happens and it's a jiggle and then you know the the the system will let everybody know it's like hey we just got a jiggle.
We're jiggling.
Do you want to do anything about this?
Also on the update uh Ray has won six to4 over.
What a fight. That was that's a close one. Six to four.
The close.
Yeah. That guy
that guy didn't jiggle.
Oh Raid don't jiggle.
He don't jiggle. He just lock.
Yeah
he locks in. real game,
which is the other multiball device thing that happened.
Geese, what what are you ranked in the ISPA?
Low or than I was before.
I mean, low low is good though, right?
Where I was uh when I was playing in more tournaments.
Do you mean low as in like closer to number one?
Oh, no. No.
Or
Yeah. Yeah. This way. So, I at my height I was like
uh 138 or something. 158 or something. I I got in the top 150 at some point.
That's great. And then I have no idea what I am. What What is your highest ranking?
I have no idea.
Oh, I hear Stranger Things again. Oh, I like that sound.
All right. Are we doing some more pit?
This looks like What the hell was that?
Give me climbing. I want to see some
ping Kong multiball. All right.
Okay, I'll take it. Stand up targets. Stand up. Stand up targets from here. Actually, I keep saying stand up targets. Viewing the drops from this angle is a little
Everything looks like a standup target
from my angle. Yeah.
Cool.
There we go. That's some good activity. I think he only needs one more.
Get it. Excellent work. You need one more.
This one right here.
Yeah. Easy.
Here, let me circle it on screen. There you go. It's actually being circled by the wire form.
Yep. Just needs that one last one.
Trying to feed the It's I Is that a backhand shot to the spinner?
Yeah. I'm curious what he's trying to do. Is he trying to hit the spinner?
I think so. Yeah. To feed it to get a feed over there and then Yeah.
To hit the
That last one just misses it.
Jeez. Always.
G my knees. Jeez, my name.
All right, here it is. Delete. There you go.
Okay, so clears it. Uh, didn't count. He activated some rule that reset the drop target.
Oh. Oh. Oh.
Oh, okay. Just use that top one, right?
Yeah.
Too clean. That transfer is gross.
Yeah. Like holds it up and it transfers it to the other upper. It's like a ski jump except it it it jumped the machine.
Oh,
okay. Another go.
This is it.
Oh,
holy cow. That hurts.
There. It was right there.
Spinner misses.
Dead bounceish. That That was a dangerous dead.
He should have dead flipped. Those aren't dangerous.
Jack almost beat me in Pittenberg, but he broke his thumb. I sure did.
There you go.
I leaned on a chair and the chair bent my thumb all the way to my wrist. It was not
dang. And he just started 2x Playfield.
You needed that for
points that you were caring about points, which we don't.
Nope. This is a heads up tournament.
I like how the um scoring it looks like we have a really slow frame rate.
All right.
All intentional, baby. every two [Applause]
and a half.
All right, just once more and then the one right out. Right out.
Right orbit.
I hope you didn't just call that.
Just one more. Right out. Okay,
here we go. And
right orbit.
A little early there.
Right orbit.
Oh, okay. Another go. Oh,
he is so late on that flipper.
All right. Oh, miss miss.
Ooh, playing with his food.
We're at 3 minutes and 24 seconds.
That trans is insane. How is he doing that?
Man, if only we knew that's the way to hit that weird uh arrow.
Look at this. That is
weird. You wouldn't think it worked, but Oh my goodness.
Oh, and he's the first, too. So, he's got to stick with whatever number he gets. Nope.
The game said no.
Not not that one. I want another one.
I don't like this ball.
No. Could you imagine a cat's themed pinball machine?
Oh man.
And it's just a cat being No.
Just the the paws.
The paw comes up and it's like no.
Okay. This is the ball.
Well, it better be.
What number are we on?
Uh, I don't think the ball number is as impressive at all five, but he's at 4 and a half minutes.
That might that might be our longest minute.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I mean, half of everybody just kind of stops.
He just he just needs that right freaking orbit.
There it is. Good job. Jeez.
Almost five.
We got there. We got there.
Oh, premium mode would have started by now. He actually shoot up the middle.
It's true. It's true. secret
when I got no more.
You know, yesterday it was my like my my motive apparently to get Tarzan boy stuck in everybody's head. Oh, come alive [Music]
that playing that monkey business on a sunny afternoon.
So, yeah. No, there's certain songs you can just earworm your way into people's minds.
So, yeah, you're welcome, chat. All right. I I should do karaoke.
You really What are you doing later?
Honestly, there are two types of people. There's uh the type of person that does that does because they're good and they they take it as a talent show.
Yeah.
Shout out to Bour.
Um and then there's me who takes it and says this is a stand-up comedy act.
Mhm.
And uh
Wait, you do comedy, don't you?
No.
No.
I mean, yes.
Yes. How am I doing, guys?
Wait, there's a second.
I could have sworn you put on a show.
Where or what? What are you talking about? Once in college, I did stand up,
right?
Yes, I was there. It was wild.
It was so good. And Capadelta did not hate you for the rest of the year.
Cappel.
Yeah, man. I I I was I was like, really? I was making fun of dyslexic people. I didn't even think about
Appidta.
No, I I I wasn't making fun of anybody except myself.
Dec deprecated humor.
Deprecated.
Yeah.
What's the word again?
Decap.
Decapitated.
Decapriated.
Dim. Dims.
I put the Okay. Karaoke.
Yeah. Decseated.
Yeah. Anyways, uh let's hit the center ramp a few times, shall we?
All right. One more and then right.
He might got this. Uh
he on one minute.
Yeah.
Yeah. Seeing those drops just not dropping for Bowen was pretty painful.
Um
so unless there's some uh two twominute floundering. I think they they got this.
We just get the right orbit right there. Post pass. The rare post pass. Oh, and the beautiful shove to get that ball back over. One might call it a dead bounce. So, no one calls it a dead certainly.
Elizabeth, easy, please.
I'm right here,
Jack. Dead flip danger.
Oh, man. No one's finding that right or
not on the fly. It's a It's a tight from the fly.
There we go. Okay, this is it.
Yeah.
Boink.
Easy.
Yeah.
What's going on over there? Okay, so it's tied five to five.
So the next fight,
next game wins
dictates the wiener.
It all comes down to this.
Danielle Aiari,
we're getting there, internet. We're We are getting there.
Yeah. For all for those folks who have stuck with us throughout the whole day, um I don't believe you.
I Yeah, I also I don't even I don't think I'm here right now. I might actually still be asleep. I'm five different places right now. I
I think I'm still outside of my truck waiting for you to come out sleeping with the exhaust leaking into the window.
Oh. Oh dear. Oh dear.
No, it's fine.
Yeah. No, I had I had goals this year and one of them was to boilate.
What the hell does that mean?
Oh, it's the fancy form of being in two places at once.
Oh, by freaking yeah. But no, no, we're here. We're talking about pinball, which is uh one of my top favorite topics to talk about.
Boy, me too.
Uh yeah, that and uh disc golf. I mean, I can talk about these things.
Are you a disc golfer?
Not I.
Oh,
no. I'm really bad.
Yeah,
but I do like talking about
I've never thrown a froling disc, if it's called that.
A frothing disc.
Froing.
I think disc.
Did I just make that up?
A little bit of disc.
No, I have gone though. It's fun, you know. Oh boy. Oh no. Oh. And then there's Tom back there. Raymond, shout out.
Say love.
So, of the people watching in the chat, are any of you going to Expo or
That's a wonderful question.
Yeah. I mean, I'm curious.
Who's going to Expo? What are you excited to see?
Right.
Um, I know there's going to be some new games there,
right?
Um, I know we're bringing a ton of games. The home brerew section is going to be astronomically large to see
largest than I've ever heard of it. I mean, it's the size of like other expos is is just the homerew section.
It's going to be pretty wild.
So, yeah, that that that's one of my favorite parts of this expo especially is how many homebrews are are borrowed out. Um, for sure. From years past, did you play the uh was it Borderlands game? Was the controller? Yeah,
that one that one's more of a like the old school Labyrinth game.
Oh, right. With the dials forward, backwards.
Yeah. In the same way that Orbiter one isn't exactly pinball. Uh
it's cool.
It is so cool. I mean, I don't know how he was able to like get it set up like that. Yeah. And then, um what's another favorite? Uh past favorite. Um
oh, the Aball Deluxe or Aball Beyond.
Oh, right. Um, Herby.
Herby. Sean Herby.
Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah,
that sounds right.
Uh, I'm terrible with names. I Well,
it's a a cool game has has very good rules on it. And uh cuz a lot of times I feel like homebrews more are more focused on the
shooting,
the layout. Yeah. And and doing really cool things that you haven't seen before. Um, but yeah, getting that, you know, that that final 10% which is, you know, the rest of the game, uh, that that one did particularly well. I remember last year there was like a barrel one.
Yeah, that I think it's called Adam, maybe. That thing's really cool.
Yeah, it's it's unique. Uh,
you had to hug it in order to play.
Yeah, you you have to like look straight down and the flipper buttons on the other side. Uh, that was funky.
Yeah, I think it's going to be it's going to be cool. And I know a lot of people are bringing home brews that hadn't been seen before. Um, and a lot of like classic homebrews that you've probably seen a handful of times are coming here.
Uh, I know Aaron from Fast went around picking up people's homerew games to bring them to this event.
Uh, yeah.
Oh yeah. Looking forward to seeing Big Trouble in Little China. I saw that. Yeah, it's cool. I feel like there was a lot of announcements this week that it's been kind of fun. Uh, young Carl D'Python Anghelo is a designer now and got to put on a game which is pretty cool.
I That one That one's going to be cool.
Yeah.
Knowing that he is our hardest uh level on a lot of our test.
Yeah. No,
shoot. Yep.
No shad, bro.
But yeah, I think easy, medium, hard. I think we have very hard in Carl. I think there is.
Is there very Carl?
There is very hard in Carl now. That would be good. very hard.
Yeah, there's there's a lot of increments of five in pinball. Three and five.
Three and five is the way to go.
Yeah. Oh man, on my game I was working on on now there I got a crash bug.
Oh,
and I couldn't find I What was going on? I finally got a terminal message. The most crypt cryptic term terminal message. It like crashed like right afterwards and it said sizees five. And I was like, "All right, let me just look up everything that is five in this game."
Sizes.
That was the clue that I needed. Actually, I after that, I was like, "I think I know what this is." But there is a lot of five.
Nothing caught fire though.
Uh, not yet.
Okay, cool.
Despite all of the magnets in that game, it's Oops. All magnets.
The whole playfield is a giant electromagnet.
Oh, nice. Nice snipe on that left uh stand up target. That's the one that we've been kind of seeing people struggle with.
100%. You can backhand it.
Oh, true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Upside down. You can still make progress.
Yep. So, he needs the the ramp.
Just the ramp at this point.
You can backhand it, buddy.
Just kidding.
That like clipped both targets somehow. Did you see that?
Like jumped between them. Oh,
yeah. It did. That left ramp fail. Got both targets.
Jake Danzic bringing something different. I can't wait. Also, that new uh what is it called? Mothership.
Oh, is that is that flipping?
Yeah, I see.
It's working this time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's It's too big for it. It breaks itself. It's so large.
I imagine.
Is that Nope. The screen is blank.
What? Where?
He shot the lock and it didn't show anything.
Oh, I I thought you're right. Has anyone failed to set a target yet? I haven't heard of any DNFS.
You're the the
Yes,
it's fine. It's just going through the very slow logo. I thought it was just stuck on
Okay, I did. I did, too.
You see my game, we're just stuck on ocean loop from from JS.
There you go. Good job.
All right. It pretty pretty quick.
Okay. 248 slower. I don't think Stephen is excited about that time.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
We shall see.
Anyways,
anything is possible.
Uh that that something monkey business on a Sunday afternoon.
That I had already forgotten about it.
Oh, I will bring it back. [Music] Yeah, I I was I was listening to that song loudly yesterday.
Oh, no. Another song that like really gets sort of stuck in your head is that uh the song they chose for Guardians of the Galaxy
where in between every mode it's just that [Music]
true. I like how in that game I love the music except that when you hear music it means you're doing bad.
Oh, right. Yeah. You're not
It's like I can't shoot this scoop. I can't shoot the scoop and all it's going is
although the like the halfway point in that game where you get cherry bomb multiball feels so freaking cool.
Yeah. No, Cherry Bomb. I was talking with MXV actually. We were talking about game pacing.
Yeah.
And Yeah. We brought up how integral uh Cherry Bomb was in making that game pace correctly.
Oh, dude. It's so good.
Yeah. It's and it's such a treat. Um although I I think well I won't put words in his mouth especially if he's listening. Um but uh there there might have been a a desire to make that a little bit more accessible cherry bomb cuz it's pretty hard. You have to beat
four modes.
And there might have been a thought of like maybe we should have started just like start four modes.
I love it. But then you have timeouts like you're just holding the flipper in.
Guardians of the Galaxy is uh like the only game in memory I can think of that I know I'm going to beat the whole game, but it's how many times am I going to beat it when I That's not a boast. It's like once you really understand that game, it's real easy to breeze through it.
Well, if you're holding the ball in the flipper, sure.
Yeah. I'm not timing out modes. Can you time out modes in that game?
Yeah. Well, it's I think they did fix uh you have to there's playfield validation, but even then, yeah, there's a lot of timing out if you want to get to emulation quickly. Sure.
The that game the the last update that went out, whoever compiled it, uh I don't think had the correct font in their system and it changed the font on.
Yeah. Yeah, we we mentioned that as well. I don't know the story behind all that.
Very good. Very Yep. That was pretty fast.
Is that Is that a W for Nick?
Yep.
Yeah, I think so. That that was the uh tie tie breaker. They were tied and now he's broken.
There it is. All right, Nick is moving on.
You could time out Quill's quest. All right. Oh, because it's a That's weird.
That's a weird specifically. You can time out.
What's the story behind that? I wonder.
Farming.
Uh, thanks, Mountain Dew.
Anyways, yeah, I need some more. I might need some more water.
Brown tan do. You need to get up.
Uh, yeah. I think I I need to walk around a bit. My ears are like being squished in.
It's me, Jack D. What's going on, internet? I'm excited to see you all at Expo. Um, this is like one of my favorite times of the year. It's like a family reunion of all of my pinball friends and family. Uh get uh, you know, all the manufacturers together and we can all just high-five each other for just being around, being alive, making cool pinball stuff. So, all right. It looks like we're chasing the pit. Maybe. Let's have a look. See if we shoot for the pit again. Yep, we are going for the pit.
Yeah, my the headphones are racking my ears. I've been wearing those things for it's like I'm putting putting in a full day's work. Looking forward to saying hello. Heck yeah.
My uh CBS interview for tomorrow got cancelled because they're covering some sort of funeral instead. So, hi Uh, get to sleep in. It's going to be great.
Who is this Jack Danger guy?
It's me, Elizabeth Geeseki.
All right, we're starting pit multiball. We're very close here. Get a little control to that right flipper. Oh, we ran out of time. It's all good. All right. Wow, we got a five5 tie. What are we going to take it to? The next fight eliminates somebody. Guess you could time out Quill's quest and then after it's timed out, you can use both of the ball. Oh, really? Okay. Jeez. I hadn't any clue. Oh, we are cruising right along. Quarterfinals. Oh, yeah. [Music] So, whoever wins in the fight between Arvin and Jack has to battle Raymond Davids.
Zack McCarthy versus Angel Lee. Carlos versus Danielle. Jared versus Nick.
Oh, it's kind of high.
She uh this has been an all day endeavor. So, she's just stretching her legs.
I play the winner of these guys.
Oh, really?
Uh-huh.
So, what are they chasing here?
Uh,
Star Kong Multiball. All right, so sweep the drops.
Oh, wow. Five and five.
Hit the arrows. Yeah, man. They they kept this thing going.
I'm guessing you've played both of these gentlemen before.
Yep.
In some capacity.
What's up, Albert?
Uh yeah. So, this this one can be tricky.
Oh, did he
Wait,
he tilted as he shot the shot.
Uh oh, it's still lit. Oh, good for him.
Wow. Good. Good for him for not pressing the timer. And also,
uh,
boom.
That is
That was close. Holy crap.
Now, what would have happened if it did start the multiball, but you tilted during it? I guess it would count.
Okay,
but you would have to know after,
right? But he didn't know. So, he wanted to wait. Yeah, he wanted
smart. You don't want that DNF, man. Like,
yeah, I got one of those today.
Oh, really?
I thought you start snake multiball by spelling snake. Uh, apparently you got to hit it one more time after you spell snake.
Ouch.
Yeah.
Well, you were the first recorded DNF that we've heard that anyone's told us about. Anyway,
uh, there's a couple by Wardrick. The the favorite was he started pit multiball instead of start King Kong multiball.
Oh, no.
Uh, and then also on Jaws, he hit the fin to light multiball instead of start multiball.
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, he had two uh DMS.
Word.
All right. Well, we're getting those drops. Get in there. Uh, the bridge let out. There you go. Get that top drop. Ooh. All right. You are lit.
Center ram three times and then right orbit.
Okay, that's all we need.
Get that control, baby.
Oh, that right out lane is so
It's been hungry. I've seen some people able to like one time it off of the left flipper up that center ramp.
I did that once. I did that because
I don't know how the hell people are doing that. Oh, there. There you go. That
was kind of fun.
That works.
It's like doing an alley oop.
Yeah. Okay.
Oh, here it is. He has to make it
one and done. Boom.
Oh my god, that's crazy. Uh well, I guess I'm playing Jack. I don't want to play I don't want to go against that. Sorry about it. All right. Good luck to you, Ray.
Start pit multi,
but it Oh. Oh, yeah. No, not in your face. What a tilted then it would count. But you didn't know you didn't want to gamble, right? Yeah.
I'm going to laugh if Elizabeth was like f this and just bounced.
You can do it.
All right. Well, I'm excited to see um where they go and what they choose. right, we got Jared versus Nick on King Kong. Looks like we're shooting for the pit. Definitely shooting for the Oh, we get a freebie. Love those.
Little little crazy secret. If your throat's burning, uh, cough drops. A Jared. Jared's my fave. He is so sweet. I don't get to see him often, but when I do, I let him know how much I appreciate his presence. Nice. Very quick. All right, just catching up on Jack here. Jack Jack is super unsung. I I Let's tell him that. Let's change that. Uh Jack's Jack's one of my my my faves. There are certain people where when I walk into the office, I I hope I get to see it and when I do, I am excited.
Him, Elliot, because he wears like really fun graphic TE's. Uh so it's like
it's kind of a it's kind of fun to know what kind of Elliot you're getting. Um, I mean, obviously everyone's a bit of a joy. Borgi is fun. Uh, he always he almost has like a crazy story of what he did that weekend. Um, so that's that's always a treat. All right, looks like we're trying to do some pit multiball here. Starting hitting the pit. Normally, it's four shots, but we are on hard mode, so it's like double that. Uh, you can see the progress though on the standard targets. Uh, two hits per progression. Ah, couldn't save it there. Yep, Jack works at Stern. Has for a while now. Just switched over to more of a marketing role, which um I I think uh uh suits him. I think it's also less stress than a designer, so I get to spend maybe more time with his family. But actually, just kidding. He has a super busy job and but that's just how it goes. Holy. Two. I think that might be the the tightest we've seen. Oh, man. Wow. Two seconds of a difference.
All right. Well, I Yeah, I we've been writing down the the best times, but now I feel like we should have been writing the closest times. Uh we saw a two seconder.
Oh, really?
Yep.
Just now.
Yep.
Oh, hell yeah.
Yep. Split the diff right there.
1.11 to 1.13.
I know. It was another pit. I mean, pit multiol. Oh, yeah. I'm glad I'm having a good air day today. I mean, not a average hair day today. Just average.
You got like a Superman going on.
It does that sometimes. Um,
yeah. I It's funny. I took a picture um earlier in the year. Uh, and then we did a recreation photo later with someone that works extra and uh we compared the two and both of our haircuts are the exact same. And we're like similar clothing, too. It looked it looked like we took it the same day.
Oh, yeah.
I We love consistency.
I'm going to refresh this broadcast. It's probably
is like maybe 20 seconds.
It was behind.
Don't lie. Your hair looks red AF.
Talking about me, I'm sure.
Yeah, I don't have any hair.
I bought this Uh that I always see you in hats. I feel like I don't know. It's like a 50/50.
I like I mean hats are fun.
I I Yeah. I don't think you're only a like Harrison.
Like I kind of always see him or or John
or Keith.
Keith.
Keith Keith's a halfway.
Oh. Starts 72 seasons. All right. Let's shoot some standup targets getting in this.
So you'll see the the standups have the number 72 in front of them. So, he needs uh one to the left of that grave marker and one to the right of the right ramp and then spin to win.
Yeah. As in get the most switches as quickly as possible. Um I asked someone once what was the best game with a spinner and they said Metallica.
Um
there certainly have spinners on this game.
It has spinners.
Yeah, it was an interesting answer. I agree. I don't think I know the answer to that question.
Yeah, I mean I would I I like I like Meteor. Um but I think really what makes a game great spinner is the rules that support it. You know,
I like I like a mechanical chime on a spinner.
Oh, okay. Okay. You got that that feedback with that feedback. Um but uh a nineball. I think that's Keith's answer for best nineball.
Yeah, nineball. Oh, he has one inside of the conference room office. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
Oh, nice. That was quick.
Oh, damn.
118.
Hey, cool mode, right?
Yeah. I'm sure you have a
That was sad. He was at 71 switches for like 10 seconds.
Oh, man.
That's That's rough, buddy.
You got to count end of stroke switches, dude.
People flip through it. that and on on Jaws I was counting switches wrong because uh because of Rick's way of counting
Oh yeah
shots and switches I was counting the beginning of spinners and the ends of spinners as an extra switch.
Um but then I kind of liked it.
So but it's fixed at some point fixed.
You need a mode every switch work method.
I know I I kind of didn't connect what that meant. It was just a thing I kept removing from everything.
Is that like um using unfiltered optical spinners? So you're just getting a freaking thousand spins.
Oh yeah, there is that. No, you have to ignore the ones that you don't want to.
Yeah,
you have to you have to say Yeah. every other every third. Uh, no. The way Rick um codes, he adds something called an any switch onto things that should be treated as a switch that the game should pay attention to in terms of frenzies and such.
So, but that makes it so that you kind of have to remove that any switch a lot of times if you're wanting to do something specific.
Okay.
Um, you might I I ran myself into trouble all the time forgetting that the any switch was always attached to everything. Um, and then later on I completely didn't even think about what the any switch meant, but it is to then make frenzies a lot easier to uh to know is this something that a frenzy should care about. The any switch is yes.
Interesting. People are saying the best spinner game is that 11 spinner monstrosity that I built.
Yeah. I mean that's like the equivalent of what they did with like El Dorado and Drop targets, you know? They're like, "What if just like all
What if it was all just
all drops?
Oops. All flippers.
Oops. Well, that's Humpty Dumpty."
Yeah, you're not wrong. The first game of flippers with the most flippers.
What game has the most slings on it? Is there something that has slings everywhere?
I'm sure.
Yeah. You know, one of those games.
Hey, internet. Thanks for joining us on this Wednesday. We're at Antarium here in Shamberg where we're in the middle of the Stern Pro Circuit Finals. 32 players from around the world battling to win $30,000 worth of prizes and cash. The biggest prize being
a pro Stern game.
She did it.
Or Stern pro game. Pro.
It's a pro Stern game. It's a Stern game.
Yeah. Of their choice,
but a pro model.
Right. Recent Spike 2 probably. I'm sure we hand you a menu and you go through it.
Yes,
I'll have the um
the the Star Wars
Star Wars.
Yeah. No. Uh that that's the that's the big big game that will be at Expo. If you haven't played Star Wars yet, there will be a ton of those at Expo.
Or new Star Wars creation.
Yeah. It was fun listening to him when I he came down to the pinball thing and I hadn't got to talk to Borg a lot about his his design uh during it. I didn't get to see I didn't see a whitewood ever actually of the Star Wars one. Yeah, I just kind of missed that window.
Um,
secret,
but he's like, "Yeah, I got this magnet." And I was like, "All right, we'll see."
Magnet.
It's a pretty cool magnet.
Yeah. Uh, when I introduced putting a magnet core inside of an insert so you can get like a subplayfield magnet, but Playfield level.
Okay.
I did that on X-Men.
Okay. We've had that magnet on test for like almost 2 years now and it's working magically. And so that is allowing us now to put a playfield surface magnet, but you don't have to see it.
That was a good start right there from the side flipper.
Just nailed it 53 seconds in.
But yeah, like missed.
Yeah.
All the best magnet.
If we can get We just need like a long plastic insert that we can hard over. Let the magnet coast down through. That is an expensive freaking mech, by the way. I've looked at it. I wanted a mist type
gimmick for a very long time. Good grief, that thing's expensive.
It's like half the game.
Yeah.
Yeah. I I wouldn't sacrifice like three coils for it. I wouldn't sacrifice two.
It's a magnet, a motor, and then how you have to load it is like two mechanisms on either side, and you got to be able to read it from either side.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a lot. That is a lot.
It's a whole freaking thing.
It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. Pork loves the magnets.
Oh, if Elise Myers. Do you know Elise Myers?
Isn't she from a horror movie?
I think she's from
Halloween.
That one like Achievement Hunters.
I don't know. But thank you. She sounds like a lovely person if she looks like me.
Someone's saying I have a doppelganger out there.
I bet she's super hot. Anyways, wow, that was a fast chum line. Uh, gets it right away. Just kind of cycles the center ramp.
Now needs to feed another yellow shot to ready to harpoon.
So,
harpoon ready.
That'll do.
And now we go shoot it.
Oh, early. It is so hard from a trap.
Oh, gets on the second go. All right. All right.
The superior Dra attack. What happens that he drained?
Still lit.
He has to hit it.
He ran out of time.
No.
Who earns
walked away? Oh, I kind of I lost the I lost sight of the objective there. I just started two to zero, Nick. Three to zero, Nick. All right.
Three to zero, Nick.
Yeah. Where's uh Venom? Is anyone playing Venom?
Is it Tom? Actually, I don't even see it back there. Oh, yeah. Uh I think
we haven't seen it on camera. Let's just put it that way. We haven't seen it on camera.
Yeah, but we can make that happen. We can do it.
Are you just going to go push the rig over there?
No.
Cuz I'm trapped.
Yeah,
you can
flip the table. Oh my gosh, I almost just spilled this.
My My ear balls need a break from the headphones.
I I'm going to put them on. You don't have to, but I feel like I'm raising my voice more
without them on.
Yeah,
that is making my
I need it.
Oh,
yeah. This is easier. Okay.
No, I can hear you just fine.
All right, we are now starting heating frenzy. So, instead of shooting shots, we are wanting to miss shots.
No shame in chumming too fast. Happens to a lot of Okay,
I read that. I'm glad that you did out loud. There are certain things we just say in our heads.
All right, gets another uh pick target there. Another one right there. Got the easiest one let being double the size of
actually got the save off the
no rubber post. All right.
All right. Easy backhand here. Oh no. Okay, that was the best choice to forehand the night swim target. Okay, gets it on a ricochet. Gets a quick shot, but that's going to not block the target. It can, but not in this case.
Unless you have
Okay, gets that last. That's a very fast defy. That was pretty good.
Sub minute.
What is he concerned about? Oh, he's making sure that he got it. Okay.
Ball bonus. What's a ball bonus? Oh, the bonus for the ball.
Bonus of the ball. It's always interesting, you know. Now I'm coding games, right? I do that. I do this every once in a while. I I write things.
And it's interesting how little you realize you know about a pinball machine and because you're questioning things that you're like, "Wait, does bonus usually have a title on it?" You know?
Oh, right. Like I was
because you're like so used to maybe not giving too much attention. Yeah. You're you're like, "Wait, is it is it normal for um like a a sound effect on an entry for an orbit? Is that what or is it on the exit of an orbit? Is that the sound effect?"
Oh,
maybe sometimes sometimes it's not and it's like what's the normal? So then you pull up a bunch of games and then you're you're you're reading about it or like you're like during a track mode are the lamps on a game usually on or they right or the spotlight lamps. It is nice having a catalog of games around the studio now
to walk up to and mess with.
It It's needed. I I I tell uh some of whoever's on Zoom. I'm like, "Hey, uh Mike, can you walk around the the can you walk around the office and tell me how many lights are on in the track?"
And by the way, uh Foo Fighters is one of the few that does not have their spotlight lamps on.
Really?
Yeah. Yeah. And another thing was like what color is extra ball insert usually?
It's always amber.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. But that that was a thing that you kind of forget about sometimes.
Extra ball is amber. Ball save is like a yellowish amber.
And like mystery is always like a cyan. I feel like
is always green.
Green. Oh yeah. Got to be green. Uh let's see. Let's some other things that I was like kind of tripped up on. I I feel like I often ask you know the simple like hey what what's uh what's everyone's opinion on this? you know, when when is a like uh when is it uh right to allow blowoff? When is it when should I not? Is there a reason?
Is that what it's called? Blowoff.
Yeah, the flipper blowoff. Um and then but usually, yeah, usually it comes down to light shows and sound effects a lot of times are the those are the things that most people just like don't think about.
Okay.
But when you are coding, you have to think you have to tell the computer to do everything, right? So, you have to intentionally be like, "Okay, flash this this many times, you know, and it's like, if you're doing a progression shot, how many times should I blink the light before uh, you know, allowing the effect to stop?" Um,
in um,
grace period, how how long should grace period be?
Oh, dude, grace periods are controversial.
Yeah,
Alwin likes to let you have your ball over and over and over again. You just like he wants you to play, but
Well, that's the thing. Yeah, his grace periods off of the skill. If you if you skill lose it off of a plunge, yeah, that grace period lasts until you revalidate a playfield by the number of switches, you know. So, you like pauses great period or RT does, but you know, just like grace period out of a a timed shot, you know, there's there's some 3 seconds and there's some two seconds and there's some 1.5s.
Oh, yeah.
2.8s, 28 28.5. It's the little things.
It's It's a lot of minutia to keep track of to make a whole package.
Yeah, that was from the right flipper there. Well, initially.
Sniper.
Sniper. No sniping.
Sniper. I barely know her. Excellent. Excellent.
Okay.
Yeah. Blowing off is when you hit things with low flippers. Uh
in the code at least is literally says flipper blowoff.
And good job.
Alien Star being the best flip or spinner game.
I can't picture Alien Star.
It's a really dark blue with yellow highlights. Well, the I think the best spinner game.
Nicely done. Uh, I really like Stargazer.
Um, like lining up, making that spinner as juicy as possible up top and then just smacking the crap out of me.
I'm I'm here in Stern Solid States had some banger spinners between between Meteor 9ball and
Stargazer
uh Latrono.
Okay. Oh, stars.
Stars
better. I'm just naming Steve Kirk games. Actually,
I'm just gonna perk it up.
Any pin with an outlane spinner.
Listen. Now, listen. Now that I'm like out of the rotation of like I'm off the treadmill for design, I'm going to put so many freaking spinners on a game.
Wait, I I guess I just did. But we're going to make the outlane spinner a reality.
Yeah. More so than your kind of outlane spinner.
Yeah. Like that drain that happened right there. It shot it so quick down the right out lane.
The the amount of rips that you would have gotten off of that spinner could have been a ball sand.
Wild.
You know,
kind of reminds me of the spinner on the shooter lane
on Junkyard.
Junkyard
or police.
I don't play police force though.
Police Force is the only pinball machine to have the word cocaine written on it in the art on the playfield.
Fun fact, everybody hear it now.
It's called Cocaine Red. It's one of the bad guys.
Uh, I bet this game is the only one that has the word uh
finger.
I'm actually not going to say the thing that
Okay. Okay.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Probably.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably.
All right. Good shot up the lock. Uh, one more to complete it. Oh, he kind of clipped the drop targets there. Just needs one more.
The time is going to be close. Look at this. Okay, that's it. And needs to right now. Hurry.
Close. 1 second.
That was really
one second. How the heck are we doing this?
That that might be the quickest other than that.3. This is also pretty fast.
Being color blind is not fun when learning a new game.
That That's rough, buddy. I I colors is a that Okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about colors. Um, in a game, um, it is hard when you realize that you only have a certain number of colors to differentiate between shots on a game and you have like going on.
The colors have to be drastic. It's not to say that there isn't like a lot of room in that spectrum, but if two things are too close together in color,
Yeah.
then that
there's no like there like yellow and orange are even like close enough. But
I mean, amber and orange, that's technically a difference. And that's that's like an insert problem we have too is like
you got to be careful if you're putting amber, yellow, and orange inserts on a game
because it's real easy just from a first glance to go, "These are all the same color." And then hammering it in and lighting it up and going, "Oh, these were all different."
Mhm. Yeah. And also different
Were you talking about different sized inserts? Yeah.
Yeah. With RGB. Yeah.
Total bummer. Um, but then when you're writing rules and you're realizing things are stacking with each other
and you're like, "Okay, so I have this this rule that is is blue and then this multiball that does contain blue in it." Say say like Rush that's a very colorful multiball, you know, and then, you know, that's battling for for for what's like what's lit
important,
you know. Yeah. Star Trek has Supremacy has that problem where you have to like cycle through all the colors sometimes or
well there it's just all of the modes are a different color and I like those games like Foo Fighters is this way cuz every mode kind of feels naturally different even though it's just shots that are lit but this one's the blue one and that one's the red one but like say Star Trek and you're in Cllingon battle with Kling on multiball and so
and all that stuff it's all red and a flashing red shot Okay, we're switching to another group while we're waiting for our group to get on.
A a shot that's flashing red. You don't know if that is contributing towards your multiple or your and that matters because you know lighting your and you can tell based off of the UI sometimes and you know there there's ways to know the difference but it's tricky. It's tricky battling how many colors you have. And then yes, it's like colorblind people. You want to you want to make sure that that um you're not I I do I do put forth some thought um into that of like oh man uh red and red and green. Oh dear. You know.
Yep.
Yeah. That is such a common combo of green locks and red jackpots. It's It is unfortunate.
Pit multiball. Our favorite. Shoot the magnet. Let's go, Andy. It
is a good example of a magnet. I like that. It's good. It's good magnet.
I wonder if this magnet is getting heated right now.
Oh, ju just being beat on like that.
It's usually not It's usually not that active.
Usually it's not being eight hours a day only. Oops. All magnet.
I mean, this has been a full day of just mag. Yeah. Hey, that was quick. Minute 30. All right.
30. Not bad, but
seem faster, but uh yeah, these
Oh, my alarm did get my children off.
Oh dear.
This event is So yeah, like lights are lights are tricky which I guess I understand now like a game like cert you know when you're thinking of a designer and they're uh sometimes it's all modes are a certain color and all like Jaws is that way all modes are blue. Um
oh my that's real leather.
Oh I I thought
Are you allergic? No, I thought you were saying it was like
Yeah, that is. Wow.
This thing also. Would you like to
Oh,
it is. It is some weight.
It's heavy.
That That ain't staying on my hips.
All right. I did it, guys. I did it.
Yeah, that's a real That's a real belt right there.
Oh, and a check for
They're pulling out the $500. It's the It's the size of a playfield, folks.
That thing is
That thing is not light.
I love that there's a company out there that just does that.
Just makes giant checks.
Yeah.
Oh, right down.
Giant checks.com.
All right. Uh, you got to do it fast. 30 seconds left. Um, a skill shot does not make progress towards the pit multiball,
by the way. Just so you know, if you didn't, now you do. Shoot the thing.
All right, it's going to be close. 10 seconds left. Two shots to go.
You shouldn't have looked. He's keeping
All right. I think I think he needed to do it perfectly here.
Is it?
It can. It can.
That was it.
It wasn't.
Oh my god. That was [ __ ] it.
Two seconds off.
And I swore.
So not worth not worth the swear jar. Take it out of the big check.
King Kong.
Oh, we're back up. All right, folks. We're back to our group. Things are moving right along here. shouldn't have looked. I mean I that shoulder look
it might have been I think
it might have been the difference.
Yeah.
The the loss of focus. Uh you can't see the machine when your head is turned.
Woo. Very.
So I've been told.
Okay. I need candy.
Give me candy.
No. I have mints. It's mint.
No, I Yeah, not quite though. You find in the candy aisle almost.
Oh, wait. I have an interarium card with like enough tickets to buy the buy the bar.
Yeah,
I could go over there.
Welcome to it. The doors are there.
Maybe
it'll be the Gizki show.
The Gizki show.
Uh, yeah. Showing once a year. Wednesday. this deck.
All right, here we go.
Jerry versus Nick in a head-to-head battle of supremacy.
All right, looks like we are doing Kong multiball. I wasn't sure cuz he didn't did he shoot those drops. All right, feed it up. Get it up on there. Spinner.
Yep.
Into drops.
Just kidding.
Yep.
Nice. Nice.
This is not drops. This can't be. This has got to be climb. This has to be climb.
I'm uh This has to be climb. Yeah.
Wait, does he know?
Oh, close.
What he's doing?
Uh, do we know what he's doing? He knows what he's doing.
Are you sure he knows?
There you go. Hands. Perfect.
This is a This is a New York, right?
New York event.
New York event. To start a New Yorker event, you got to get to 300 feet, which you do by climbing, which is the yellow arrows around the playfield. I like this mode. I like that this mode is in this format. Uh yeah, I I want more of this more. Not just shoot the same shot, but shoot a little bit of a little bit of dep. [Music]
There you go.
All right. Easy into the right center. Just misses.
Chasing those yellow arrows.
Good dead flip. Hey, thank you geese.
It's such a fun magnet.
Especially when it acts like that.
Yep. Can you get it one time? Oh,
that Oh, is that the last one?
Squeeze.
Hear me out. Drain.
Drain right now. I think they relight. That That's a tough final shot. All right, we'll see it now. Does it light on a new shot? It does not. Okay, never mind.
Save for fet. All right,
then we got to do it. You got
Oh, ball save on a game with no balls.
All right, right orbit.
All right, surely that's Can you spawn shots? Is that what he's shooting for? I
think he's trying to go spinner to little flipper to upper right.
Spinner doesn't do it. Oh. Oh, that's a round
cuz it's it's more control.
It's more control speed. Yeah. Oh, so good. Okay, just the right orbit now. So good. Okay. Yeah.
Where'd that put you? 217.
Nice. I This has been the longest uh event thing objective, right? Consistently, it's been the hardest to get.
It's not the longest time invested in something, but yeah, this one has been
like we saw like some near five minutes on uh
I don't remember what that was.
Jurassic.
I think we saw one that was long on this one. off.
Like, wasn't Bowen like Ruth? He just couldn't
Oh, yeah. No, it could find the right orbit.
Get it together.
Machine seemed like bouncing back between Kong, John Wick, Metallica.
Um, yeah.
Yeah. At this point, we're kind of at the whim of the people selecting the objectives. Uh, so the the play play field, the battlefield,
like Venom's being right now, but we are not streaming.
I guess we're uh we're sticking with groups, I guess.
We're just watching the hits, you know.
Yeah, but I I mean I I agree. I wouldn't mind to watch some Venom,
something that we haven't casted on yet,
but at least it's not another pit.
Yeah.
Yeah. But either way, you get to listen to our beautiful voices and get some fun little tidbits of what goes on at uh St.
Come on down to you can watch the Stern Pro Circuit Drivers.
Nice ski jump there.
Okay, make the adjustment.
Ah, makes the adjustment. Just gets it too late there. Ski pass.
Oh, a little post pass.
Yeah. What's that?
It's like a ski.
Cool. And interesting.
Does Mystery spot a climb arrow? I'm not sure. What are some of the challenges we haven't seen? Well, for Kong, uh, you've seen them all. Um, we have not seen Start X Communicado multiball. No one has done that ever. That's that's putting the ball in the pop bumper area and hoping it does the thing.
Um, we have not seen any of the Venom stuff which is start Mayhem multiball or start carnage multiball.
And for Yeah, that's it. We've seen everything else
really.
Yeah,
we haven't seen star snake snake multiball from
uh on camera. We have not seen snake multiball.
We saw grave once I think. Of course, we were yapping.
We're big yappers.
Chhatty Cathy's over here.
I mean, all like after after hour seven, you sort of
Oh, I was like, where's the lit arrow?
Oh, hiding underneath the
Yeah,
the wire form
now. Where is it?
Now you have to shoot the right.
Oh, it's just lit.
Yeah.
Oo, fast.
Boom.
Nice.
It didn't Did it start? Oh, okay. I thought
I know it does have that delay on it.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah. Clean win. 10 10 second 20 seconds.
Well, Nick Dick's hair is getting more luscious. It is some nice looking hair.
Oh, now you get to see the tops of our heads.
Look at it.
Um, yeah. Welcome to the, if you're just tuning in, welcome to the Pro Circuit Finals event. The event that is built across the whole year. So, this is the 2024 finals pro circuit. There's 20 events throughout the year. You can find the schedule, maybe make the next event here, but everyone here, 32 players, qualify throughout the year to finally make it here. We got $30,000 in prize money up for grabs. And
oh, a Stern Pro pinball machine.
That's right, Jack. Thank you. So, uh, yeah, there is a lot on the line here. We are here for it. Been here since 8 in the morning.
Picked you up at 8. Uh, we got here at 8:09. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm quite near here. Uh tournament started at 9:30.
Yeah.
And we've been here right here in these seats ever since. How was that?
I'm leaving a jack-sized divot in this bench right here.
Yeah. This couch is going to have memory by the time I leave. All right. Start the Kong multiball, which uh is more interesting than pit. We got to shoot the clear the drop targets.
We put the drops. Shoot at the ramp. Get up on that. Yeah. And since this is the pro, you got to shoot the right orbit,
which this is another thing. This is another thing that is interesting as a designer to think about all of the places where you can uh hold the ball.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
It's very important to be able to do that. And when you make changes between pro and premium, you have to compensate.
Yeah. Yeah. You sure do.
Yeah. because we we got things to show you and instructions to read and
it truly is like developing two pinball machines at one time.
Um
just
I'm chilling. Yeah, thank you.
Uh so yeah, that it's um it is interesting on you you really need a uh the the easiest shot in the game to hold the ball because often it's like the player has done the thing. Yep.
They have qualified the wizard mode and now just we need you to we need to hold the ball. So that's why
choreography we got to give you a breather. You need a minute to watch a video.
Yeah. Understand what's going on with
absorb as much information as you can.
Yeah. Have the light show not like make you lose the ball. So I mean holding the ball is important and we try to make it placed on a plate on an area in the game that is accessible and easy to shoot. Uh and then there's this right orbit. There is that right arm.
Yeah. Speaking of which, nails.
Very good.
I love the confidence in like making that shot, turning around.
Yeah. Knowing that you did the It's like walking away from a a explosion.
Dalton says he is now over Ghost Vancouver's burger. Nice.
He's definitely not here. Is there going to have memory or a pointer to memory? That's a good one.
That's some nerdy uh that's some nerdy stuff right there. Internet.
If you want to know about pointers and memory, uh cycle back to 2:00 today.
Oh my god.
Yeah,
I swear every time I look at the clock, another hour has gone by. And I feel like only 10 minutes has gone by.
It has. All right. clearing some drop targets. Uh, needs to do it again because a rule happens and it reset the drops.
Because a rule happens.
Can you imagine all the rules happening right now?
No.
All right.
Yeah, I can't either.
Climbed 25 ft to 25 ft.
Not that we care because we are lighting Kong multiol. Time to beat is 1 minute and 39 seconds.
And he's got about a minute left here.
Good clear. Good. And needs the bottom one. He's one more left. You can kind of see it. Nice use of the button there. Nails it. Now he's got it lit.
Ramping.
Nice save.
Right up the center again.
He looks to his right for some reason. Back.
Checking the clock. Lock it in, bro.
Oh, I just can't combo that center ramp.
Lock it in. Go. Go. One time. One time. One time. One time.
Oh, right.
It's close.
Oh, he's got it. He's got it.
That was pretty.
Holy moly. Good run.
All right.
Where are we at here? Oh,
all tied up.
First to two. First two wins wins. All right. So, this is uh we are in the quarterfinals here. Uh making our way to
downtown.
Uh walking fast.
Yeah. Uh but I think I if I if I sense this correctly, I think we're almost in our semis.
Yep. We're close to the semis.
Yeah. Um, usually production gives us a little update. Well, I'm sure one will be coming sooner than later,
man. But I do feel like I am an expert on these uh objectives at this point. Oh, yeah.
I don't need these cheat sheet.
These like pages and pages of notes.
Keep the notes.
You know how many people I called yesterday trying getting the scoop?
Yep.
Figuring out the scoop.
What is the scoop? scoop in it.
Uh, I used to get scoops and saucers mixed up. What a what a noob mood.
Oh, yeah. How could you?
How embarrassing. I know.
Scoop it up.
What's the first game you think of when you think of saucers in a pinball machine?
Uh, Nine Sisters.
I don't know that yet.
Google it.
All right.
It is the coolest looking game. One flipper pinball machine.
Oh,
it has a spiral ramp. Oh,
it has little saucers all over the playing field that all sink into and then it gives you another ball to play.
Oh. Um,
what year is this? 50s or something?
60s.
Sure. I think 50s.
I mean, a one flipper game that that feels like an early game.
It's early. Um,
yeah, it's cool.
Hi, Tom.
Hey, Tom.
Say hi to everybody. Tom.
Hi, Tom.
Hi, everybody.
Tom does talk.
Tom. Tom talk. Welcome to my Tom Talk.
Watch their uh the triple drink.
He's working. He's busy working.
Got he's just absorbing the information.
Follow him along. Everyone's
on Nick's shirt.
Uh words, I guess.
Hey. Oh. Uh where's Nick?
Oh, it's I don't see Nick.
And Monica. Monica is such such a lovely lovely lady. I only another person I only get to see around expo time.
Monica.
Yeah, that's her. Or is it Melanie? Monica.
Yeah, it's Monica.
I don't know.
Here we are.
All right. We're doing place your bets. I think it's telekinesis.
Uh yeah, cuz he'd have some demos already.
Oh, I was just I'm completely guessing.
Is it? Do you think?
Yeah. Start telekinesis. You were right.
All right. I I was right, everybody.
I can't sit anymore.
Well, I can't stand this.
I can't stand
I can't sit for this.
Do they have alcoholic Mountain Dew? They do, actually. Doesn't Taco Bell carry it?
Wasn't there like an alcoholic bar?
I mean, that doesn't surprise me. Like Hines made a chocolate bar.
Did it have 57 spices in it?
That's where the other 50 came from. I mean, ketchup past the seven. The other 50.
Uh, no. I the um I I had a uh a lovely professor who was um foreign. So, I mean
uh you know, I had was was an English learner and sometimes got some words confused. And at one point she's we were talking about Halloween candy and she's like, "What's everyone's favorite Halloween candy?" Mine's Hines.
Hines. Okay.
Yeah. M mine's Hines. And me and my friend just sent pictures of people eating ketchup. Oh god.
And we're like, "No, I think she's right." And yeah, there's Hines. There is Hines uh chocolate out there. So, she could have been she could have actually been talking about that.
All right, we got some updates here. So, Zmac won 6 to3. Carlos won 6 to1. Uh we're in the middle of Jared and Nick here on screen 3 to four. And Ray versus Jack is uh Ray up three to two. So, there you go.
Cool. Yeah. Next year I'm going to request some like lawn chairs.
Uh, no. I'm going to request uh some more people.
Yeah. I last year it was like windows of people.
Yeah.
And I I thought I did a lot. I had to do two windows and I thought that was
We better have like a a a turkey and a gift card waiting for us.
Five high fives after this.
You need more than that. But
all right. There's that lovely sound effect. That is the best thing.
I love it so much.
Yep.
I didn't even realize how much I loved it until this,
you know, just hearing it a lot.
226.
All right. Best sound effects. Oh, you know what hits like tickles my brain is the Guardians of the Galaxy. What is his name? Quint.
Quill.
Quill. Quill's Quest shot sound effect.
Yeah. Okay.
It's like
Oh, yeah. It's like a like a horn.
Yeah.
Okay.
And in the multiball, you can kind of like stack them and get that like
in terms of sound effects. Yeah. That that sticks out in my head and I I like it.
Huh.
Tickles my brain.
Yeah.
Brain tickles are fun. I'm trying to think of other games that have just a s satisfying sound.
Oh, by the way, the thing on Nick's shirt, that is a manatee in a uh dress shirt.
I I don't know. I don't know.
It's like a wrap sweater or
It's like a preppy manity.
Yeah, I love that band.
Preppy Manity.
Wolfy manity. Good dead bounce right there. I think the difference between dead flip and dead bounce for me is if you like shove it's a Yeah, that's a dead bounce. And if it's a complete like chill maneuver, that's a
death. That's good.
Oh, right.
It's not Paddington. That's a manatee. The spinner on JP sound. Oh yeah, the spitter spinner.
Oh, the spitter spinner.
Oh, no. The best spinner noise on a more modern stern is the uh Led Zeppelin spinner sound.
Oh, the the electric chair one. Yeah, that's a good one.
That spinner sound is goo.
You know what was my least favorite spinner sound? I think
I think it's grand lizard spinner. Oh, is that like the the Doesn't it make like monkey noises or something?
Yeah, it doesn't. It gives me the ick. It just It doesn't do it for me.
All right.
It's like
It reminds me of What's the game If I If I did this, if I made this sound,
what would that game think make you think of?
I'm nailing.
Wait, one more time.
I'm not sure.
I I know you just got me to do it once more. Um
um chat if you want to make your guesses I will
like escape from the lost world or something.
I think I'm nailing it. It's been a day. I I think I am. I think that's the sound.
Is there any other kind of manity? A humanity.
A humanity.
All right. I wonder if that was close. I think Nick got that. I I sense that Nick.
Frontier.
God, it is Frontier. Good call, Jean, my man.
Yeah, there that one. There's certain sounds that stick in my head. I'm mad about it. And that's one of them. That's one of those sounds. Um I think I'm pretty sure like um F14 Tomcat has some good sounds.
Okay.
I can't think of what they are,
but I think they're good. That's great.
Um, it it has some good call outs, you know.
I think uh uh Nimrod uh uh I you know that game though, the thing I kind of it irks me and I'm like bad game, don't do that. Is it says danger on it when you start the multiball
and it says double danger. I've already
I barely touched it
and uh danger.
Yeah, it's like don't use the word warning and don't use the word danger.
Uh easy.
Yo, Shad, thank you buddy.
Uh I'm a little slap happy right now. Just been
you know there are some key words in general that you need to stick away from. And here's another funny coding thing that again Gizki's corner over here. Jiggle a tickle.
Um, is I I ran into a bug because the art had used labeled one of their like labels in the art layer a keyword in C++.
Oh no.
Like the word static or something.
Okay.
And it broke the code
because uh you can't you can't do that. Can't do that.
So it's kind of interesting like even the artists need to need need to know some of this stuff.
Got to watch what you're doing art boys. I feel like actually I was the one that did that. I I made something in in art whatever and I labeled it static and then broke it and I'm like I'm the problem.
Oh.
So, uh, we learned things.
All right. So, what are we shooting here, do you think?
Um, look at I think he's
just got to shoot the right
right orbit.
The right orbit.
He's in a mode here. He uh has to hit the right orbit. The side ramp is not available to him.
There it is. Tap it. Ooh. 54. Okay, sub minute.
Pretty good. Such a wealth of knowledge. Thank you,
Jack. Warning. That's my uncle.
Got some Frontier comments. Good [Music]
Oh, how about Xenon sound effects?
G, give me some Xenon.
Great article uh in Nudge about Frontier sound package. Nice.
Huh. Interesting.
All right, hit the dragon.
All right, hit some dragon. Oh yeah, that's some quick dragon.
That was nasty.
All right, doing good. Halfway on track. It's really all about that right orbit.
There we go.
What would I I think you should go rogue and implement all of this on the action, but
what
the all of this? This like two hands on the freaking timer thing. Like put that
stop it.
Like the game doesn't function till you and now you're and then you
I mean why but why though?
And you can even have it shut.
Nice feed.
That was that was great. That was an awesome opportunity.
That was a short plunge so that he had a chance at the side shot into the side ramp.
Crazy.
It's really good.
Um but yeah, no I uh action button uh functionality is another interesting thing. Let me talk about the action button, guys.
All right, so we do a lot with the action button.
Okay, so here's the problem is that we have one button
and
for now, a lot of our problems would be solved with an added button.
I want a D-pad and some buttons.
I want to play track and field.
Oh, I want a roller ball.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, okay. So the one button that we do have often times do multiple rules and sometimes it's a short press and in order to differentiate between what rule is going on. Sometimes it's like oh yeah the flipper changes what what is active on the center button, right?
But more often it's one is a short press and the other one is a long press.
Here's the problem though. How do you tell the difference between if it's a long press or a short press?
Because that's subjective.
Exactly.
Yeah. And and you can't you there's no way to know on the down press. If someone presses the button down,
I don't know when you're going to release it. So I have to wait for you to release it.
Oh.
Which makes people feel especially on D and D that there is some latency with the button shield
because it's we have a another rule that is the ranged weapon rule that you have to hold it down and then release.
Yeah. and on release it uh mood lighting our ear. Um so yeah, once you release it then we're able to do things. But that's the problem. It's like someone's like I pressed the button. It's like yeah but you didn't lift your hand up quick enough
right.
Um and so yeah and what and the amount of time it takes of like when do we decide that long is the amount and when short is
we actually discuss that more on on this on that game. Um, so yeah, those are those are things that some people think about that that these people being me and Dwight.
I like a good action button. I my favorite thing to do with an action button is I want something to smash when I drain the ball in a panic to give me a few extra points.
Yeah, boom buttons are are the are the go-to. I I like boom button. Add a ball.
Add a ball. But what how do you feel about boom button out of balls? Add a ball on the button. How do you feel about
uh I'm indifferent. I just want I like shot scoring. That's all I give a [ __ ] poop a poop about.
Shot scoring.
A shhats about. Um yeah, I using the What's a game that uses the action button? Is that uh Guardians maybe? Yeah. No, that's Hron. Uh that
Godzilla or Adabal or Okay.
Um I think uh I I feel like Godzilla is my go-to on Adabal on the action button. Every game that we make now uses the action button for some reason.
Yeah.
Or not for some reason.
Using this input device.
Uh
but yeah. No, I I I've been thinking about this of like it feels cool to be like, "Oh, action button. I got my multiball back." But I think it feels cooler to have to shoot a shot to save a multiball in grace.
Can you read that?
Yeah, I can read.
I'm I'm proud of you. Can you read that the coin return button on the uh coin door hasn't been pressed?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah. Do you are you cooking some ideas here?
Really?
Yeah. Some maybe some uh some uh uh cheat cheater mode stuff like on jackpot.
Exactly. Yeah.
People are just like jamming
spamming the that extra button. If you could read that like holding it in. I think there's a switch back there.
I think there's a switch.
Um, you can also read um start button presses.
Start button presses. Yeah.
Um,
and uh uh
I would love to know that you like are pulling the plunger back.
Oh, plunger. like a linear actuator attached to it so you can get like a zero to 100 on Listen, we're I'm just trying to add a crap ton of money to them in
for such like a one purpose.
Yeah, right. You want to do what? All right, on to jobs. The mood lighting definitely uh the light shooting down like that with only one light definitely highlights the bags under my eyes, but this makes this is great.
Yeah, I'm enjoying it. My my my pale skin looks not so pale.
I'm very strategic when I light my stream to make sure that I'm even on both sides so like the cavernous gaps under my eyeballs doesn't show as much.
H you know what would have been cool as a as a objective for Jaws? Something with a real.
Yeah, bounty hunt would have been fun.
Yeah, that's right.
Uh Quint's challenge.
Explain.
You have to spell orca letters by hitting the wave ramp.
Okay,
that qualifies Quint's challenge on the right in lane, which you have to feed by getting the ball to go down the right in lane, not by the right ramp that skips over that switch.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Interesting.
No, no one does that now, do they? Not not worth it.
Yeah, finding um objectives for a pinball tournament is is tough. And finding objectives for uh the quest badges.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
That that's tricky. I accidentally made one too hard, but I did it on purpose, so I think it's okay. Which was to beat Jaws multiball one, which I like. And it was intentional for this game to have a reverse difficulty on beating multiballs. I did it on purpose.
Okay.
Jaws mouse ball one is the hardest to beat. Jaws 3 is the is the easiest to beat. And Jaws 2 is is in the middle. And I did that because I'm like, if someone wants to get uh that achievement for beating Jaws 3 multiball, uh wouldn't it kind of super stink to have to repeatedly get to Jaws 3 multiball? I'm like, I'll just let you win. Oh dear. We have found not a bug, but a little bit of an unfortunate thing where he had shoot on the screen while the host was holding a ball in the right.
Yeah, that used to crash the game. It used to soft lock the game. I won't say crash, but um it it's it's still kind of it doesn't like it. It doesn't like it when you do that. Don't do that. But you can kind of see like um that uh that we call them BDLs. It's background display elements um or layer back background display layer element. Uh that specific one, the shoot one,
the BDLE. Yeah.
Uh it's Yeah, it one is a little bit of a special BDL. It has special properties. Okay. because it's one that we want to keep uh on the screen while the uh fin is roving and while the fin is roving is kind of a long thing and it out it last it outlasts the length of the video. So there's like this um like wait you are we done are you done? Are we done? There's a lot of checks on that BDL to make sure it's on and not
but not on when it's not supposed to be on. Yeah.
Fun fact. Okay, so
Carlos has to start feeding Frenzy and he's got 2 minutes and 13 seconds to paint.
Missing some shots here. He's got one set already clear. You can tell by the orange shots that are lit around the playfield. One stand up target lights two.
Oh, okay. Well, he's just hit
he's got the the L1 effect going on.
Yeah, hitting everything, bud.
It's going to be a little bit tough now. I got to do it all in a minute.
Minute 20. Come on, Carlos. There you go, buddy. Oh,
having no
Oh, yeah. Okay. Someone is asking about the action button and uh why not activate a timer when the button is pushed. If the timer expires, it activates long press. If the switch is released before time expires, it's a short press. That's basically it. That the no matter what you're doing with the timers, um the problem is that people want uh things to happen right away.
Yeah.
And any point of waiting is feels like a mistake.
Yeah. So yeah, we are doing we are doing the timer based thing. It's at a certain point we know this is a long press. Um now sometimes we do care about like the up press because of the way the um range weapon works in D and D. It is the up press that we care about. Um and yeah that when it activates yeah that's on a timer. It it is all based off of timers. It's just more of the problem of having two rules that one is a short and one is a long and both are active on the button. Uh there's no way to tell on down press if it's a short or long without a timer and that's anyways.
Oh, just misses it there. Needed one more target.
One more target would have had it.
Stay on target.
He was hitting all of the shots except for the ones he needed.
That was quick though. I I thought I thought he was kind of dead in the water,
but he wasn't. Uh he he he came back and just couldn't couldn't bring it together.
Yeah. having Elwin sund drum that moment when he can only hit shots.
It is unfortunate.
He can't stop making all these shots.
He He did uh uh have to play a lot of standup target based objectives,
which was smart for people to bring him to.
Yeah, if that was I I don't know who choose what, but
yeah, now we know if you want to beat Elwin.
Targets.
Targets only. Oh, here we are. Uh, hello. Oh, hey. I just dis disassociated for a second.
Hi, I'm I'm Jack Danger.
And I'm Geeseki Elizabeth.
And we're here at Interarium in Shamberg where we are in the middle of the Stern Pro Circuit Finals. 32 players from around the world came here to battle for $30,000 in prizes and money. The biggest prize being
a Stern Pro Circuit game. No, a stern pro game. Heck yeah.
Yeah. All right. Here we go. Next up, we are I'm guessing it's I'm guessing it's Sparky, but I don't know. Could be anything.
You never You never guessed.
He might have just
spark it up.
So, have we confirmed that the target between his legs is what gives you two hits and the feet?
It's hard. Yes, that's got to be it, right?
Yeah. I mean, I I've decided and I speak things into existence as we all know.
Now it's real. Oh, the backhand. Oh. Oh, the turn and slap 38. Okay, I can get behind that. Stern Golden Girls Pro.
If you want that game made, just tell tell Seth and I'll make it. Like, let's go. I
Yeah, you're here.
I got nothing else going on anymore. My job is to just hang out and look pretty. We'll figure
high fives.
Yeah, lots of high fives. All right, time to beat is I don't know, but it was fast. So, we're looking for faster.
Felt kind of fast.
Man, those those music videos like an actual like anime featurelength film music videos are freaking
awesome. Ooh.
Oh, twofer. Ah, it's so early on on a fly. Squeeze it by or post pass? Yep, post pass.
Make the prices right already.
I wouldn't mind it, but considering how Wheel of Fortune did might not be the play.
Uh, game show or game show.
The pinball machine.
Yeah, game show. The pinball machine.
Okay. Oh, doesn't wait for a settle. Where's
Come on, Carlos.
All right. Three more. I think he lost it because it was 30ish.
I thought it was 30 seconds, but yeah, we we we get it.
Yeah. No, there's some games I would like to see made into pinball machines. Uh Mountain Dew, the pinball machine.
Yeah.
Uh yeah. Yeah, that
I'm sitting here waiting like what is she gonna say? I'm
not going to say anything. I'm not saying nothing. I I could say with something with truth to it. I would like this to be made in game, but then it would be like, oh,
and then someone someone yoinks it or
Yeah. Or or you know uh um leak leaked.
Oh yeah, we leaked it.
Leaked it here. No, I've been actually really proud of myself. I have
Oh, keeping stuff to yourself.
I've been really good. Okay, I have been so good.
I mean, a Mountain Dew game could be it could have that idea of sort of like how No Fear is. It's just all these extreme sports.
True.
Skateboarding, BMXing, all that stuff.
Or roller games with Pepsi.
Oh, yeah. That's right.
I think when I think of Pepsi. Yeah.
Man, speaking of games that get stuck in your head.
Go, go, go, go, go, go. Go for the wall.
Go for the wall.
Don't flip.
Flip. Don't flip.
Flip.
I love it when a game screams at me when I I'm like, "Don't tell me what to do.
Don't flip." Actually, please tell me what to do.
Speaking of telling people what to do, let's hit some green targets.
Booyah. All right, up the ramp.
Don't delay. What the
Oh, trivia. What was the first game to feature green locks?
Um, white water.
Is it?
No, I I have no idea.
I wouldn't say white water. I think it depends on what you qualify as a lock. technically high speed
had green and lock associated a little bit.
We're back.
He did not
I think there's another better example like a green arrow lock.
Okay.
But I can't remember.
You can do the fresh sheet and just
probably someone at Stern has worked on that game though and is able to say like yeah it's this one and I I worked on it.
There's no there's no co on this thing.
Is it Black Knight
the original?
Um
that was green. That was green locks.
Per chance. But
so Black Knight was the first split level, right? Um
and the first with Green Locks.
Okay. I mean, I You just said it, so now it's real.
That's a dead shove right there.
The old dead shove.
Interesting here.
Minute 20. All right.
Bro's plunging the targets. It's so good. Honestly, he he was he was manipulating physics for for a few moments there.
Um I can't wait for chat to catch up to the conversation of green arrows. And what's the first
like the uh the superhero?
Yeah, first Green Arrow. Not Not talking about Oliver Queen.
Plinko in the back glass.
Oh yeah.
Catacomb. Huh?
Are they talking about Catacomb like the Plinko game in the background?
They might be having a separate conversation about how he was plunging the
Oh, actually, yeah. ABCD. Am I right?
Yeah. Abocad.
I want some toast. Am I right?
A catacomb. Yeah. What? Catacomb. Like a piece of toast. You know what I'm talking about, right? All right. We're going to try to shoot some standup targets. All right, let's see what
I'm commentating. I always have something to like re-just. Uh people will agree.
We're still on the Prices, right? Okay, cool.
Oh, firepower. Was that that was before Black Knight? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. That's
They're close in age, right?
Age. Like oddly close. You'd think they wouldn't be 8081.
I think it's like 80.
Where were you in 1980? Uh, I was a mere thought.
A mere thought.
There we go. Nailed that left stand up target.
Okay, get up there. Okay, go up. Okay, play with your feet. Play with your feet.
Okay.
Oh, yeah. Nice bouncing
control.
All right. These flipper rubber is quite bouncy.
Yeah, it's just really zoomed in on the end.
So, really zoomed in.
Uh, we'll say we'll say firepower.
Yep. There we go. Got to get the bread on that catacomb. Thank you.
Cool. Cool inside jokes, guys. I don't feel stupid at all.
Okay, nice. Left. Needs one more clear. Oh, he clips the left.
How about it?
He clipped the target on the way to the lock shot and it counted or something. What? How did that even happen?
Oh, I think
Show me the code.
I think it's already too late.
Easy.
Oh man, that felt so fast.
That did count really fast. Dang, that was close.
Eight month difference in age. Got it.
Between Black Knight and
fire power.
Fire power.
Fire power.
Oh, good.
Hey, back on us. What's up, internet? Shout out to
Back to him. Now, back to me. Now to him. Um, I'm going to show Jack some catacomb so he doesn't feel left out about the bread.
Oh, the bread. Yeah. And then look up Nine Sisters
actually. Yeah.
Is a real
quote here. Just see that. That's the playfield.
Oh, it does look like bread.
Yeah.
Slice of toast. You got to fill it. I like the rule. I really like We need to bring this type of rule back.
The bag of tell.
No.
Oh, no. The bread. Oh, like a bingo. Like a bingo card.
Yes. like shooting and it's like you know it being like the light like big game
kind of did that in a very generic way with um AIQ.
How so?
AQ had that grid on
the grid. Yeah, that's not it.
Um that's not it.
What the
Hey, but Venom,
what a surprise. I'm I'm re-energized.
What are we doing? Start carnage.
Carnage. I will take it.
I'd rather see the other one. We're just gonna
Are they allowed to choose Peter?
They're allowed to.
Okay.
What does Peter do?
Peter makes it easier to start carnage.
Okay. Oh,
now by the way, uh the other the other one is start mayhem. And you're not allowed to choose Eddie.
But here we're just This is the first time we get to talk about Venom. Okay. I I prepared for this.
Oh, Venom. Venom has a grid
that you got to play the uh the the the dot game.
This one. Yeah. Yeah. There. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. This is a good example, but a little bit different. I went like big game style.
Nice. Easy. So, that's how you do it, guys.
Wait, did he actually
Yeah. What? You shoot um Carnage a bunch and then shoot up the center.
That's right.
Yeah.
Peter's my main in this game. flat.
Peter makes it easier. I like to start
I'm a I'm a whole man.
I I haven't beaten the game yet.
Oh, okay.
Uh but if I were to just start from scratch and I want big points, then I start with Flash Thompson, then Eddie, then uh uh
Okay.
Oh, okay.
But I really like the music from Gwen. What? What did uh Prep Productions say?
He said they have to start with Flash.
You have to start with Flash. Okay. He started with Peter.
No, he started with Flash, drained, and then moved on to Peter with a second ball.
You're allowed to do that?
I don't know.
All right. I don't Is that even how it works? Is that how it works?
Is that how it works? You can just Yeah. Okay. Well, drain.
That's fine. You have to start with flash. Okay.
Okay. Start with flash. Drain immediately. Then choose who you want. I feel bad.
You have nine balls.
That all of this is probably not going to do it cuz uh it's like it's like two extra hits.
Okay. Get up that get up this freaking ramp. Oh, he Oh my god. That would have been it. Keep the ball up. Kick get up. This time. This time. Yep. Hit it.
Oh.
All right. So, maybe the time it took to drain and reselect the character was too long.
All right. So, Carlos got himself a win there.
We We thought he he knew a thing. Uh, it it pro. We need some more tests. I need some more venom, I think, to really know what the strategy.
Keep the rig here, please.
What an interesting thing. How are your ears?
Um, firmly pressed.
Yeah,
I woke up this morning. Uh, like
Congratulations. Yeah, actually
I woke up vertical.
I was already standing when I woke up.
Um, but I had like my face was like imprinted with my pillow
for a long time afterwards. I was like I woke up like 20 minutes ago. It looks like I had like scarring on my face. [Music]
Okay. What was the uh It
It's like four to one. Three to four to one.
Oh, wow. Okay.
So, Los is now on two.
Different D. D.
Wow. And Neil's been in here since the beginning.
I thought he got knocked out earlier.
Uh where's Neil? Is Neil Was Neil just playing right there? See, he's like literally right there.
I don't know.
I I have seen through dimensions today. I I've seen all the timelines.
We are not the same people we were this morning.
I I have seen things.
Look at this hair. I I pressed my hair in and I got this like curl. Look at this.
There we go. Oh, that's a good
Oh, Chad, we are almost there. We are entering the finals, I think.
Are we?
I don't know.
You want your cheese?
Yeah.
When you do the math, choose NRA. It's a local car commercial for you, internet. Shout out to Mark McGrath, the lead singer of uh Sugar Wreck, uh who their very first album was a a pinball machine backbox the album cover.
Really?
Yep. Eminem has also made a pinball machine backbox uh album cover.
Interesting.
Some fun trivia.
We are in the semiinal.
We are in the semiinal. Just started the semifinals.
Oh, that was Zach from behind. He looks a lot like Neil. Zack. Zach and Neil look the same from behind
and Jod and Seth have the same voice.
Have the same voice. Yeah.
Bringing it back to as we always do. Do you have the schedule of expo with
on me currently? No.
Uh I just know Drinks with Jack is at 3 p.m.
I I need to figure out when my thing is.
Are you part of a seminar?
Oh, the ladies seminar.
The ladies. The ladies in pinball. Um but yeah, no, I kind of want to see what else is going on, you know? the lady seminar last year. I felt a little uncomfortable because my name came up a lot and
Oh, that was funny.
I got a little I got a little nervous.
Yeah, we kept we kept doing that. It's almost like we knew.
Uh-huh. Uhhuh.
Um Yeah. No, that that is
this [ __ ] girl. Oh, sorry. Stop swearing.
Third. Was that fourth?
How many do you get? How many chances do I get?
Uh at least five. 10 probably.
Okay.
Considering this tournament, how it works.
All right. Oh, hey. It's Rob Burke of the Chicago Pinball Expo.
Wow. He knows a thing or two about schedule.
Oh, the schedule. Yeah.
All right. Start playing multiball. Anyways,
um, so if you hit the pit,
you want to do it more.
Yep.
And you want to do it a little bit more.
It's okay.
All right. That was a kind magnet just kind of lightly tossing it back to his flipper.
Nice job not draining Peter and winning. All right, three more hits. All right, two more hits.
Ghost more hits.
Oh yeah, he hit that center ramp because um skill shots do not count towards pit multiple.
Hit it. Booyah. 54.
Yeah, it's kind of weird that a pit shot during a skill shot doesn't count towards pit multiple.
Yeah,
like that. like you would have to do intentionally
it cuz it's hard to do. I would imagine it would give you more pro like a lot of progress right off the rip.
Well, I mean regardless it's like in the code somewhere you would have had to check if skill shot was happening and the order matters. So maybe skill shot isn't happening anymore because the pit rule is later in the sequence in the executable, right?
Okay. So you would have to see was skill lit like just recently. So there would have to be a timer involved and then say don't don't progress.
How much Mountain Dew do they win? It's so much Mountain Dew.
So much Mountain Dew. 30K in
$30,000 worth of Mountain Dew.
Yeah. Where's my jet? You know what I mean?
Oh, that was Pepsi.
Get it. O. I Okay, he's got 20 more seconds left for about five more shots on the pit.
Okay. Okay. And we are toast. Yeah.
4 seconds left. Two more shots.
Okay. Three more shots, but two now.
Yep. That's a G.
That's a a W for Mr. McCarthy. It's quick.
Oh, Zack McCarthy.
Is there uh like an expo banquet happening?
Whoa. Do you think that you know you're invited?
I think we're invited.
We're going to burst on over there. There seems to be Yeah, I saw there's like over here a reception. Over there there's a reception. Um but yeah, I'm not I'm not sure if this is expiration.
I could eat some cream. someone else's food.
I I'm not hungry at the moment. I'm I'm eating worse.
Oh, you ate all that delicious quesadilla.
Uh yeah. And it it was filling.
You looked pretty good.
Uh yep. Okay. Good.
Ian Jacobe of Nudge Magazine.
Jacobe. Not to be confused with Kenobi.
Ian Kenobi. Woo! Man, I feel like I've gone through all of my Well, what's your favorite this thing from?
But what is your favorite thing from that thing? Okay, so how about this? Elizabeth,
uh, when you're not playing and programming pinball, what are your other hobbies?
What are you talking about?
It's only pinball.
No. Yeah. Um, it it's um it's changed. I I just finished Marc Silk Song. I I beat
Oh, yeah.
A huge fan of hard games.
I watched a lot of people play that. I did not play it myself.
It's 20 bucks. It's 20 bucks.
That's fine.
I Once I heard that, I was like, "Oh, cool. Uh yes, please." And Yeah. No, that I I I loved it. I It's a There's a certain joy about getting better at something.
Yeah.
You know, and and seeing your progress and being like, "Wow, this this was hard and now and now I'm I'm on stage three of this boss whatever."
Learning the mechanics, dying to it, what you messed up.
It's very cool.
Heck yeah.
Okay. Stranger Things.
All right. Looks like we're demo dogging.
Yeah. Yeah, that that gave it away right there.
Shooting up the middle. That's a demo dog.
It could have been It could have gone either way,
but they've already played Stranger Things once, right?
Uh yeah. Okay, that's a D.
Yep. Yep. Huge. It must go in order from left to right.
Seems like it. So, if he shoots it again, it's going to be an M.
He shoots it naturally.
He is not shooting it naturally.
No. Whoa, look at the counters. It usually for a second there it was like my brain just broke for a second focusing
it. No, it was like all the numbers were the same. It was like 1, two, three. All of the seconds was that
um it's not doing that anymore.
Okay. Only needs two letters. One of them is the hard one.
The OG.
The big OG.
You can get that right there. There's O.
It gets an O now.
Put it back in there. Just put it back in there. Put it right back in. Right back where you got it.
Why?
All right, we've reached a minute.
Do dollars are on the line, bro. Clean it up. Let's go.
All right, some bouncing going on. That can be good. Not in this case.
We're not loving the bouncing.
This is a tough game once to get out of control to get back under control. I don't Sometimes it's just like that.
And mailing it. Okay. Where are you shooting, buddy?
It is a marathon stream. I I appreciate that from you. Thank you.
Oh, the saucer said no. There you go.
Okay, that gets it. He just needs to hit the left thing.
Oh,
what' you call that shot?
Center of left shot.
Center left shot.
Nope.
Yep. Oh,
so the plunge Yeah, the plunge can do it for you.
That's ridiculous. That's all you need. Naming shots and pinballer machines is something that one might not think about, but all of the shots have a name.
It's very important uh with programming. Uh I know X-Men was a pain in the butt to address. Uh cuz there's a lot of things that are backwards, sideways, and
every every every which way.
Every which way.
Yeah. Uh I I remember when I first looked at the Whitewood, I was like, "Uh so what are you going to call that shot?" Uh what's this one?
The double center left right up shot.
And then there's some uh shot names that become out of date as the production happens,
but it's too much to go back and change all the iterations, so you're just stuck with it.
Like this is the sandwich ramp. Uh there aren't sandwiches in the game anymore.
Well, now there will forever be.
Now it's the sandwich. the ghost sandwich ramp. Uh the the wave ramp had a lot of the wave ramp in Jaws is called the left ramp in the code, but the the the failed ramp
sure
is is called it's called left ramp fail, but that's that's what's called in the code. And there was a bug that made it into production where I accidentally just printed out the name. It's like shoot this shot, you know.
Yeah. And it was to shoot the uh failed shot and it was like left ramp fail and I'm like no that's not what we call that. That's called the trick shot.
All right, dude. Carlos is hanging in there
by a minute. Fast fast. I I took a video of it of the I don't actually I don't think it made in to production the the left ramp fail, but um it it was it was funny to me when it was like it was like a Shoot the failure. Oh
yeah, it was like
three more for something. Like I had an early rule or something that if you got three fails, it started something and it was like two more failed ramps. Two two more. You like are the worst.
You messed up to get there.
Yeah. But usually it's like no problem because there it's a one to one. Usually the shot names and what you want to print are the same. Uh
oh. Productions looking for a pen.
Oh, I already put mine away cuz you know my my
Don't hand it out. You'll never get it back. You'll never get it back.
Yeah, I I have broken the curse though and I did get it back.
Open the door get Raymond's up three to All right. Raymond is leading three to zero against Nick.
Uh, someone's watching specifically with the sound off. I wonder why. I don't blame you.
Yeah, we talk. Uh I I will start signing though if you need if you need I know avocado.
That's sign language avocado.
Yeah. And this is computer.
So
I want one more beer.
Please.
I think that's thank you. I don't please. Yeah.
Thank you.
Right. Do you want to build a snowman? This has been a multilingual stream.
Yeah. Don't worry, guys. I know you can't see me.
Oh yeah. Oh crap. They couldn't even see it.
You nailed it.
That's a plot. It's kind of like when you use the flippers.
They start flapping at you.
You know the flipper blowoff, also known as applauding. Yeah, the flippers.
Um, yeah, we're here. And, uh, just in case you didn't know, I am perfectly capable of talking. Is this going to be a an 11 hour sesh for us?
No numbers, man. I can't hear them. I I don't I don't see it.
No numberies.
All right. On the fly, it doesn't hit it quite early enough. Classic. The problem is that I don't have filter anymore.
Decon. Yeah. No, I'm right there with you.
Deconumated.
Deconated. [Music] Yeah.
I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound good.
Shout out to Mountain Dew.
Anyways, pinball.
Wa, that was quick. 38 seconds.
That was nuts.
38 seconds. Okay. Yes. Deconsecrated. You want to be boring? Um, it's like the opposite of my name. Um, multiball. That was pretty fast, actually. Uh, it's hard to get uh clean shots on Winston in succession.
So, yeah, you hit the captive ball up there in the middle. You can see the T blinking right now. Hit that till it spells Winston. Lights the middle ramp. Shoot that three times. Walk away with all the things.
All right, Carlo.
All right. Good punch.
Good backhand, too.
So, it gave both
easy money.
Okay, ski jump. Yep. Yep. This is the best game to do it. No, didn't count. It didn't register. The car is biting them.
The car is like whoop like a cat.
I I love the car on the pro.
No, it jumps out at you.
It does. That they did a lot of work on that car for this game. I remember.
Oh, yeah. I remember watching a lot of that R&D.
Ah, okay. All right. Let's see how he deals with the plunge here. His other one was very good.
Unfortunately, his timer is just going to come out here to be
in ah time. Yeah.
Yeah. That that was that was very And that was pretty fast like
Well, and that means Zach McCarthy moves on
to
the finals. The end.
Never. We're here. They don't let us leave.
Yeah.
Lettuce leaf.
Yeah.
And then we're a lettuce leaf. That would be my next pinball machine.
We're also going to commentate uh the tear down of the broadcasting settings.
Uh yeah, stay tuned for the cool down show.
Um where the the after show.
I need a bucket of Gatorade going over my head.
Oh jeez. No, thank you.
Um yeah, if you thought we were giving the juicy bits now, just wait until we reach hour 12.
I'm getting I'm getting there. I'm getting I'm getting to the point where I'm ready to leak some stuff internet.
I'm getting to the point where my mouth is talking faster than my brain can think.
Be like, hold on there a little bit.
Rain it in.
Oh, question for me.
Okay, I will read this question. Uh, as a software engineer, I'm curious about how rules are implemented. Are are they all coded directly in C++ or do you have a rules engine based on data or a mix of both? Thanks. It is. That's a great question. Um, and it is 100% C++. Everything is specifically written down there. Uh, we have there there have been tools to make some versions uh some parts of the coding a little bit um easier. Um, and die tools. I mean there's there's exactly one tool and that's the light tool that
Oh, yeah.
Mitch made a nice gooey so you can see the field. And you can actually like run videos and uh images through it to sort of like help create some really cool effects. Awesome.
Yeah. So, you get that kind of for free, but it's actually like a big old pain getting that to function correctly cuz you got to assign every single light to every every single insert in the right order and things and making sure that things are lined up properly. Um, but once you do that, then you get a lot of things for free. Um, but that is the only thing uh that we use in terms of a nice little like plug and play.
Um, everything else is is written by hand. Um, there's a lot of copy and pasting,
but that's programming.
But there's never never have I copy and pasted and been like, "Yep, that is exactly all I needed." There's always something I need to change.
Um, it's like, yeah. Uh um but that is why actually if you're wanting to work as a software developer in pinball, it's really great to have a backlog of games that you can reach back into gra.
Yeah. Yeah. So like in say Nightwim for u uh Jaws one is is an early mode that I wrote and I was like all right here's this this game. It has shots. They wrote
Godzilla Jet Fighters that that has the same thing. So I lifted it from there. Um, but even then, you know, you you have to uh play around and make sure that uh you don't accidentally cause uh horrible bugs when grace period happens. And yes, I I I I had a I had a version of the game where you uh were in Night Swim, but you weren't in Night Swim anymore because you hit something in Grace period. That was my first bug.
Well, dang. Congratulations.
Night Grace period. But great question. Thank you.
Chris Dit says, "When will you two work on a game together? Best shots plus best holes. That's
Maybe we already are, man. Maybe we already are.
Listen, you said Yeah, your your mouth is talking faster than your
Oh. Ah. Ah. Darn it.
Son of a gun. True.
Totally leaked it. Hope it doesn't show up on pins.
And this is why you'll never trust a word I say. Uh I I have never leaked anything ever because all of the words I say are I don't even know what's going on. Hello.
That's fair.
All right. Okay, looks like we're trying to start bird one multiball, which means we're clearing drop targets and shooting it up the center.
Clearing drops and passing the pups.
Finally, she's getting drops and stand up targets figured out.
Everything's a standup target if you want it.
Well, yeah, you brick it enough.
Yep.
That's tricky making chop targets that aren't brick.
That was the cleanest bracket
from the right from the right flipper. Jared was doing that earlier.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I don't believe it.
Oh, that was a twofur. Golden Girls confirmed.
Yeah.
If that game comes out, you nerds have to buy it.
Yeah.
Oh, get it right.
Wow. What a gentleman for waiting to see. It did in fact
get that ball around that shot right down.
Right up on phone. Are you using your Nolland's uh accent?
I feel like I pulled that one back a little bit.
Yeah, we saw that. We we commented on the hesitation to be like
it's very gentlemanly for you to go like wait. Oh,
I got it.
We were talking about orbits earlier in hour four that we were here on on this game.
If it goes too fast, it might not register. If it goes too slow, it might not. Who knows?
Yeah. Well, well, we don't know. Is it a subsequent um thing or is it based on a timer?
Yeah. I'm not sure proc exists or just cis plague on. Okay, now we're getting real real
nerdy.
Yeah, I I usually do timer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kudos to you two going the whole day.
Yeah. Thanks for the uh the the under the table money that you sent us earlier.
It's God's work.
All that Mountain Dew that we received is really is Yep.
My kids will be swimming in Mountain Dew.
We're going to name your what? Thirdb born Dewey.
Yeah. The Yeah, we're going to name him Dewey.
And then his middle name, Demol.
A uh Dolly Parton remake, but the spinner. Oh, those repeating audio clip. There you go. [Music]
Oh, it didn't count.
That was like the one. That's the one I was worried about. That's why I waited.
That and it looked good.
Yeah, that's suspicious. Mike, Lonnie, or Lonnie.
I don't know why that one didn't count and mine did.
I know. That's the thing. I I want to see the code cuz if it's a subsequent thing, maybe it is. It's It's getting a switch from somewhere that's interrupting it.
Oh, man. That's brutal.
Brutal.
Brutal.
All right. Raymond takes another W there.
All right. All right. All right.
All right. All right. All right. The crowd is dwindling as we're getting to the end.
Yeah. Welcome to the night game.
Will we ever make It was night time when we got here.
I haven't seen the sunlight
since I don't know when
I as a as a coder myself. That's one thing about the PD area is that there's no window. So dark. Yeah, it's so dark.
It's quite dank over there. Uh, in the winter, I imagine. Tanyo never sees the light.
Nope.
Man, shout out to Tanya. We haven't talked about Tanya.
Yeah. Where's Tanya?
Yeah. Made He helped you with Foo Fighters.
He helped the Foo Fighters. Um, he was it was a treat. A delight to work with. I enjoyed
traveling the country to promote that game with him.
Yeah. Fun dude.
Yeah, fun dude. Also like shout out to like Raymond Davidson also had a very big hand in fighters as well.
Big but um on Tano I feel like whenever I have a like just I'm not really good at networking in terms of computers I it's my it's my weakness. uh we all have one and Tanyo is the one that raises his hand first to help me out and I so appreciate that for
Tany Tanyo if he has something to say he will say it and uh that is true that is
true for for better or worse but for me it's always been in the better and uh yeah love love that man been been a big help and he'll be like swamped with something and I'll be like oh man I got to and he's the guy that's kind of like heading the IC yeah
uh integrations on our So, you know, sometimes it's like, man, I I really want to see these numbers or like I need to get this new achievement through and I, you know, I need him to do something quick or maybe long. And he's always on it no matter what he's doing. Oh, some venom. D. Looks like we're doing Carnage.
All right. Good catch. Good hit.
Nailed it.
Good drain.
All right. Uh, drain to Peter.
Drain to Peter.
Drain to Peter. There we go.
Yep. The old drained Peter myth.
Oh, misses the back hand there. Takes us a little bit more time on that one. Wise.
All right.
Smash it.
Maybe that was a good one. That lit center ramp will do it for him.
Get in.
Needs the flipper. Okay. Easiest shot in the game. Nailed it.
No weight on that one.
Six seconds.
All right. Get your sleeper.
Wow. That was
was the add a ball.
Another another addabal is the uh continue ball. The you you drain down your multiball.
Oh, Elvra does that.
Elvra did it first. I feel
the
That was pretty good. That was great. That was accidental drain strats cuz when I drained I got to choose Petra.
I know. That's what we're saying. I was wondering if you knew about that.
I didn't want to drain on purpose.
We've we've seen on purpose uh approaches for that.
It didn't work for him.
I cannot figure out how to get the ball to plunge all the way around on Venom. Is it
you hold in the left flipper? I did it two balls in a row and it's like
Oh, really?
I I'm doing it wrong. I don't I don't know.
Hold it in.
You have to You have to switch the skill shot to not top lane multiball, whatever. Or the top lane planes.
Oh,
you have to switch it to something like like this.
Oh,
I say things with confidence, guys, and he believes me.
But I would believe that.
So, it only goes all the way around. Well, it didn't work out.
The drain strand.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't. I see.
Maybe that's what he wanted.
Yeah, I think so.
Definitely. That's definitely a good way to shave off 36.
All right. Got to get some Got to get some caps ball hits here.
Not Not the Not the ramp. Not the left ramp. Not the left.
I don't think that's going to do it.
I swear time goes slower as player one. I don't know. I feel like I spent way more time than than what
Yeah, it was pretty quick. It's pretty quick. Oh, that didn't get it.
Oh, that was dirty.
There we go. Was it lit? And already
pretty close though,
dude. If that was made, it would have been only 4 seconds to do it.
Well done, Mr. Raymond Davidson progressing.
Yeah. And I got to teach him something about Venom. Then I'm like, here's the thing. Sometimes when I'm answering questions on rules, it's not a matter of me knowing the rule. It's more of a this is what I would have done if I was the rules designer on the coder. Yeah.
Yeah. And usually that works out.
So, is it Zack McCarthy versus Raymond Davidson? I believe so.
All right. Well, internet, you've
waited.
Is it
24 hours of streaming?
Oh, it's also like my neck holding these headphones up.
Yeah. Something I'm my shoulder's all dinky donkey.
Oh, man. That that must be rough for you.
Yeah, it's not pleasant. Um,
but you know what is pleasant?
Mountain Dew.
No. Oh,
I mean, yes,
I was going to say commentating hours on it. I was I was setting it up for a compliment,
but I I I see where your mind is at. Uh do the do
do the do
and and pro it up in the circuit.
Y get the pro circuit. Get the IFB buzz. Get your free pinball machine. $30,000 worth of prizes. Uh, you know, actually probably for for FBA like the best uh sponsor might be Burger King.
I'm thinking Dr. Scholes.
No, for the Whoppers.
Oh, yeah.
I get I get
have it your way.
We'll have it your way.
I'm going to switch it up here.
I'm not trying to sit fancy. It's just my
I earlier can't handle it anymore. did the the arm around the maneuver and I was like, I'm just I'm just trying to get in a new position.
It's all good, bro. Get cozy.
Get shorty. What is that from?
Swifty.
Shifty. Shifty. I I'm not going to fill the lines past that, but we all know them. You were here for it.
Yep. Oh, man. Internet, the finals. I can't believe we made it.
Yeah. Any any more questions, Chad? I I am here and I am running out of things to say. So, um I will answer questions that haven't been asked.
How about this? What is something that you would like as an original theme to see pinball machine based off?
You know, I'm always I do love uh medieval
medieval stuff's always great.
That area.
Yeah.
Um I I feel like uh western themes are are is a theme that is popular in the older generations.
I want western for sure. What? What the freaky?
That was good. That was good. That was good.
I mean, not me. F that earn. Okay.
Oh, you know what? I want a space cadet.
Yeah.
Okay. Oh, right. Windows.
So many companies have tried to make that game and have not been able to do it.
Isn't that physically impossible for some reason?
The pop I mean the pop bumper area, the pops are smaller than normal. They're also elevated. Yeah.
Um,
and the the ramp doesn't it's not steep. It wouldn't be steep or too steep or the the length of the ramp doesn't quite work.
So, there's several things that are wrong with that.
Um, but there are there are things that are starting to become uh you know what's uh not licensed anymore because the hundred years or whatever is up, right?
Oh, uh free or public domain.
Public domain game.
So, like your Alice in Wonderlands, that's why you're seeing a lot of those games right now. King Kong. No, the King Kong was always for a really funny reason.
King Kong is No, King Kong is in the public domain.
Yeah, there Yeah, there's spec you can but you can make your own King Kongs and it's all because of Donkey Kong because Nintendo took them to court. Universal.
Thank you, Donkey Kong. Nintendo took Universal to court because Universal was going to sue Nintendo, well did sue Nintendo for um copying King Kong with their Donkey Kong. And um there there yeah there was they they Nintendo had this like a a star uh lawyer that read
read the books and looked up the research and found out that they like did their trademark wrong or their copyright wrong or something or didn't submit it or it like it you need to do it every 10 years or something and it fell through
and was like well now now you don't have it. Now no one has it. Now it's everybody's.
Now I get to have a Kong made out of donkeys.
Yep. And now we have pinball.
Pin pin Kong.
Yeah. Public domain games.
Western stuff I think is if I had to make an original theme something western probably is a bad one.
What about like a Greek god type of
The Greek stuff is fun too, but I feel like it's a little played out. I don't know.
Has it? I don't think it's been a common.
May maybe not in pinball, but it's just sort of like
like Hades. I really or like um like sleuththing gum shoe stuff like uh WHO dunnit is really fun.
Yeah. Not enough of those.
Clue just by itself would be pretty cool.
Favorite '8s pinball machine. Oh gosh, I don't even have an answer for that.
Oh, okay. There is some contention in and someone we need a third voice on what made public domain King Kong happen. Uh cuz I might have just made everything up.
As you do. It's so convincing though.
Oh, we're doing great.
It's convincing because it could totally be true. I believe it.
Mhm.
Uh and that's how I make rules.
30.
I made it. It works. Go away.
I believe it. That was very quick. Was that all backhand?
Yeah.
I love going grave marker, dude. I love it.
How about a Okay. How about it? Oh, man.
How about a junkyard theme? We need another one of those.
Oh, yeah. Junkyard's fun. Honestly, it would be fun to take a bunch of the mechs out of the lab and just slap them together. Make ball guys go around it and just
junkyard.
Make a stern stern lab. Hey,
we're in the finals, by the way. This belt is going home. Okay, we got to pay attention
with either Zack McCarthy or Raymond Davidson.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. This is a tough objective because all of your progress is lost if you drain.
If you Dwayne like that.
So, we're pretty much he's pretty much uh Yeah.
Yeah. Call it. You call that. Yeah.
Oh, DNF.
Yeah, but he he doesn't give up.
Uh you should you should probably knock over the stamp.
Oh, yeah. I mean, if you're going to get a DNF, might as well kick the thing over. Uh, Giski, are you a pinball lawyer?
Giski the pinball lawyer.
Um, I could be I could convince you of things.
Is that what lawyers do?
Convinces you of the truth regardless of if if it is so.
The book is public domain, but the movie is not.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But the the character though, like you know, because you can copyright characters regardless. I'm not talking about the book and I'm not talking about the movie. I'm talking about the character. How about that?
The character.
All right. Believe me now. Do we believe I'm like the Verizon commercial?
Do you believe me now?
Uh, can we get a Cartoon Network theme?
I would love that.
Oh my gosh. I would love a um Powerpuff Girls.
I was literally just about to say that.
Oh my gosh.
Mojo Jojo him. I Yeah, I I'm I'm all over that. But butter uh uh bubbles when she turns like crazy.
Oh,
Paula,
that's a cool shot.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Has I don't think Taylor's strong has voiced a pinball machine before, right? She She's got to round out her, you know, weak resume.
Oh, god.
How are you two still going?
Oh, no. We stopped like 5 hours ago. Every 30 minutes we've agreed to pinch each other really hard.
Oh, that's fast. That's fast. That was a quick
sparky.
32 seconds.
You're looking at the man who um uh coded the remake here, fellas.
Uh not that one. The other one.
Raid.
Not Not that guy either. Not this guy.
This guy.
That guy. Dare you.
I went by audio cues. I flipped and turned around and when I heard my ball hit the target, I
Wow.
That was incredible. cuz he knew. He knew he knows where it is on
I know every second matters in this one.
That's what they say. Oh, nice drop catch. Very nice drop catch.
All right. Oh, gets the double progress.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a thing, guys.
Oh my god, he's almost there.
Three double progress.
Holy.
Oh, that's fast. 10 seconds.
Good job with the the timing of those videos, right? Okay.
Oh, the double progresses. That was that was like
that. You can't beat that. That right there is a marathon.
That 26.2. That's a marathon right there.
A marathon, folks.
In case you didn't know, Google it.
Pull out your drinks.
Google it.
That's a social.
It smells like a leather jacket.
It's true. It's It's very nice.
All right. uh
uh any seminars I recommend prioritizing. Well, Saturday feels like it's the day of Stern. There's a lot of behind the scene talking about Dn D and Star Wars. Um there's uh the women's one I'm on and either Thursday or Friday at 8.
Also 3 p.m. every single day be at the Stern booth to hear me talk to different members of the production team.
There you go. Yeah, we were actually talking earlier that we're wanting to see the schedule because uh I I actually don't know a lot of things, but I think any of the ones that are talking about um homebrews making their own games and what that's like, that is a mustsee. So, I'm sure there's those. Go for that.
Also, you don't want to miss Dwight's Let's Make a Deal.
Yeah, there you go. I always miss that every year cuz I'm in the women's tournament. All right, here we go. We're doing demi dog. Nope, we're doing telekinesis. If only it was demi.
I need a leather jacket. And this is what it smells like all the time. Yeah, it's like a Renaissance festival.
Oh, it does smell like a Renaissance festival.
Heck yeah, dude. All right, he's kind of struggling getting the balls down to a flipper. Good dead bounce here. Right into the left and nails it.
Nailed it.
We've been seeing a lot of clean shots when standup.
Oh, I thought that was going to be one and done.
But he did get an extra uh light ready for his next hit.
Oh, so you can
So, as long as he doesn't hit the second one,
that resets the progress.
I don't know if it's I don't know if it doubles up, but Yeah. No, that re that now you don't have it lit anymore.
Okay.
Okay. He's taking his time here on the plunge, wanting to get it down to a flipper.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. He's playing controlled and collected.
You can't backhand.
You love that target, buddy. You love that target. Backand,
man. You are just finding that guy.
I I I I kind of do the post pass at this point. Yeah, that left ramp. We've seen that all before. Been there, done that.
There we go. Okay. Clean left ramp there.
Okay.
Oh, yeah. Uh, a marathon is 26.2 miles. Uh, America.
America.
Because America actually because of Britain. Drinking with Jack is not a drinking game here.
It's not a game. Internet,
there he goes blowing off the game.
Uh the ball wasn't falling fast enough in the rain.
Can't just trying to clip that that target there, but the missing and locking the ball away in areas that you don't want to be in.
Finding that left back hand now.
This is for $30,000 uh worth of cash and prizes. The biggest of the prizes being a brand new Stern Pro pinball machine.
Yeah, every stand up matters. Every second matters.
This is the last one.
All right. That that that's a little tough to swallow.
2 minutes and 24 seconds.
We've seen things today and now we know this. We have this weird understanding now of how long it should take to do things.
I'm kind of digging it's useless knowledge.
Yeah. Yes, it is. And I I am going to go back to CERN at some point and be like, can I do this in 26.2 seconds?
If only you could put a timer on the screen.
There are there is a way to put timers on the screen.
There are games that do that.
Very true. Dwight likes screen time. Dwight does the screen timers.
Look at the urgency.
All right. Left misses.
Ski pass to there. Oh,
thanks.
All right. All right.
Going to sit through a bonus.
All right. Black screen. Incoming black screen.
It does like to sit on black,
but it's not black. It's just really zoomed in. There it is. All right. All right. That's fast. That's fast. One more.
Oh,
I think that was only his first one. Yeah.
No, that's the second one.
Really? No shot.
She says with confidence.
I don't believe you.
I wouldn't either. But here we are, people.
But I'm going to be right cuz I said it out loud.
All right. This is for some of the marbles.
No. Oh, dang it. Dang it. All right, here we go. He can uh take his time here. He's got a minute.
All right, nails that.
Get that excellent sound queue.
Will either of us agree to do a 10hour hour timer commentary assignment in the future?
Absolutely not. No.
What?
Someone's asking us if we were doing another 10-hour commentary thing in the future.
We've lost you guys forever.
Yeah,
man.
There there are certain limits. Nice.
If only Mountain Dew had brought Mountain Dew, you guys.
I might I might be doing handstands back.
I'd be vibrating right now
more so than now.
Mhm. I do be vibrating.
All right. So, we're looking at
three nothing Zack McCarthy.
Remember, it's first to six wins.
Do you need more water?
Uh, yeah.
You getting up?
Uh, there isn't a good way to get water.
Oh,
that thing's empty.
You ask.
There's a bartender right there.
You just go to that bartender. Actually, just throw your water bottle over there and they'll fill it.
I ought to just get up for one.
Hey Mountain Dew fans, it's me, Jack Danger. Do the doo doo doo doo. Can I fit that down? really. Yeah. Does it not on a skill or something?
It's that I think the the finger just isn't working.
I mean, it might be a skill shot interacts with a clunky.
Um,
probably possibly. Uh,
probably not. Probably not. I'm
all right. Time to beat 240.
Cuz when you started the multiball, it didn't even grab it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's actually a good thing in terms of time. As long as it's consistent across players.
Oh, I didn't realize there's a little target down in the danger room.
Yeah, that's the way to do it, man. It's the way to do it. Other than skill shots
in the danger room. Oh, man. Zach McCarthy is uh
yeah running away with this which I'm not complaining. Sorry Raymond. Uh okay. Uh Danger.
What songs do you think of when you think of Danger?
Um Danger Zone Highway.
Danger Zone. Yeah, that's the first one I need to do.
Or Danger Danger High Voltage from uh Electric 6.
Proud of you. Way to get there.
Yeah.
Not as cool as we're call Slither. scene. We're not going to play the game no more.
Um, yeah,
mentally we are not here physically.
Swear I am everywhere.
High voltage.
Uhoh.
Hey, what's going on? Wait, how how does this work with the tournament going on that they're letting everyone loose back here?
Oh, loose people. Oh,
we're not going to play
the game.
I'm trying to think of other songs that just have like a very strong accent that just hits you in your face when you hear it.
Um,
excellent.
Have you heard the cover of that song by that German guy? I mean,
no. I'm Tom's Diner or whatever that song is called. He's like, you know, halfway. I mean, it's a whole I'll send it to you, dude. It It's wild. But you
know, Fallout Boy uses it.
Yeah, it is. It is. Okay, we are
I don't know. Is this four to
Zack McCarthy to Raymond Davidson? 40. All right. So, we got some paddock to do, I'm guessing.
Capture a dinosaur.
All right. Good. Good. And And you know it's fast because the the arrows are still on the S.
Mr. D.
Come on. Come on. You got to do it.
You want it when it's on the S.
Oh, no.
Those were nerves right there. That was a nerve. Smart. He used the button to tranquilize it on the S. Let's go.
Crank it, bro. 37 bar.
That was awesome. That was some game knowledge. I don't know.
No one's trying it. I've not seen a single tran.
Nah. Nah, man. Nah.
Very smart. Ray.
Yeah. Everyone look up that that cover. It's so awesome.
What's the format? We are playing objective based pinball. We give you something to shoot at. You need to do that thing in the shortest amount of time possible. do it fast.
You have to do it within 10 balls or 10 minutes. But please don't get to 10 balls or 10 minutes
because you are DNN.
Yeah.
In this case, we're trying to capture a dinosaur, which means we got to spell map, which you have it all spotted mostly. Then collect a rescue shot and then hit a yellow trap target and then hit a yellow dinosaur to capture that capture the dinosa.
All right. So, he misses the the standup target here.
It It's hard when that that uh
There it is. He's gets it.
Oh, wait. Can he one one time it? That would have been it if you would have got it.
Yeah. Well, the the time it takes to turn around, put your hands on.
So, Ray Ray's got a W there.
30 second dinosaur madness.
That was quite the achievement. I Yeah, I
look at that crowd, ladies and gentlemen.
Woots. Woots. Yeah, we're getting some uh some normies up in here. I mean, these everyone has a a an expo lanyard on. Are these folks at like uh paid for a dining experience here at Expo?
Um, it might be a Stern Army event.
I want to go raid the buffet.
The buffet.
The Stern The Stern Army appreciation party is on Friday at Microphone. Oh, I a Oh, I have a thing during that. Friday is a busy day.
Friday night. It really is. It's
a busy day.
Well, I might I think I have a thing at Friday.
Do you want to be on the news on Friday? You want to come to WGN early in the morning?
No. No. No.
Dance on camera.
Uh, I do have moves, but uh
do the uh the Jitterbug.
Uh the doodlebugs.
The doodle bugs. Do the doodlebug. It's just a lot of nodding.
Jaws.
Bumper.
I just saw the word Jaws.
They got to stop looking back. Yeah,
well, they kind of know. He looked back right at the time of
it was over.
The buffet dinner and gameplay included. Oh, dinner with danger event. No one told you.
Oh,
well, it's becoming that way. D. [Music]
Why is Josh standing like that? Can we get going?
Or he's hurting anyone from touching that thing, I'm sure. Oh, he's blocking it. Smart
guard dog. All right, so we are doing excommunicado multiball, which is the one. Yeah, it's all about the pumper.
Get that popping popping.
It's all about the bumper.
Nice shot.
Right in
and get some good action, I guess.
And since this is the pro, there is no drop target to get in the way or stand up as uh Elizabeth,
as I would probably call it. That's right. And I think there isn't a sneak in on the Pro.
Oh, in the back
there is on the premium. I I don't know about the Pro, but um the best most direct way is just shooting it up.
All right,
that feed down is a little step too.
All right, nicking on over speed passer. All right, that counts. One more.
Nikki was convinced that was the final shot. All right.
Oh, that's a good dump. Just get the flipper back.
Great dump,
man. I have never seen someone be able to shoot that shot so many times in a row. That's like That's wild. There you go. And one more. Now he's qualified.
And this is where he went to this thing happens. Right. Right. There it is. Nice.
1 hour and 17 minutes.
That Oh my goodness.
Could you imagine?
Really good. It was really good.
1 minute. 1 second. That's That's wild.
Yeah, he was nailing that shot. It best to six. So no matter what, Raymond has a chance. [Music]
He's the most accurate shooter ever to flip.
Uh well, uh Keith begs to differ.
Keith Keith be uh pretty good.
Keith can't help but hit shot.
Yeah.
All right. gets some uh unlucky bounces here. Get that ball back on the flipper. O, this will be tough cuz Zach was pretty uh pretty efficient.
Pretty accurate.
Nice. Nice deal with the this No, never mind. Very bad.
Very confused. Upset.
All right, let's see if he deals with this uh plunge a little bit better here.
What he needs is the ball to go in there and just live in there. Yep. Yep. Just like that. Yep.
Oh, yeah. More of that.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Oh my.
Oh, that was the freaking play. Holy crap. That was it. Get back in there, Ray.
All right.
Oh, sneaking.
He needs two more shots. One to qualify and then one actually started no matter what.
Okay, so that's that's qual No, he needs one more.
So, one one more and then another one more.
Wow.
Don't backhand it. That's already time.
Yeah,
man.
He got some good bounces in there, though.
That was close. That was That was some good dancing up there. Pop pop pop.
They bust people over from the hotel. Okay,
there's a lot of people in here.
Yeah, it's it's a deluge.
What a deluge. Speaking of delusions, my name is Jack Deluge Danger
and I'm a geese Elizabeth.
She did it.
Hello. Uh we're here with the Stam Pro Circuit Finals where 32 people came to battle and we're down to the final two duking it out for a chance to win $30,000 worth of cash and prizes which includes a
pro Stern game.
Yeah,
that's right.
Uh shout out to Mountain Dew for the sponsorship. Thank you Stern EA. Thank you Mark Patnau for running the show here. Elizabeth for talking for uh 24 hours with me.
Keo being here next to me.
I'm not Yep. Oh jeez. Being here next to me. Let me scoot over here.
Jack also being here.
Um, this was a uh a head a heads up format. So, it's two people going together, but it's all objective based. So, what you're trying to do is with the 10 balls in 10 minutes, finish this objective as quick as you can, quicker than your opponent. And uh sometimes the objective can be done in 30 seconds, sometimes it takes 3 minutes.
Yeah, it's all okay. Here we go. This might be the last game. First to six takes it. Tony went to start Sentinel Multiball, which is probably the easiest thing to do in all of these games. Just bash that head.
Yep. Do it some more.
I want this to be like sub 20 seconds. Oh, let go of the freaking ball.
Oh, come on. All right, here we go. Uh, okay, that should open.
One more. One more should be it.
Yeah, that's it.
25. Ooh.
Is that Oh, not quite.
Not quite. 21 is what?
And that was capturing a dinosaur. Capturing a dinosaur was 21 seconds faster than Sentinel multiball.
So, here's the deal. If Zach just took the quickest time rate, then this is over.
That's extremely fast.
I I don't know what the fast on sentinel, but
So, Ray's got to be feeling some kind of pressure here.
All right. Ski drop. Okay. Nice back hand.
Drop in the back. Weird little loopy floop.
Come on, ball. We need that down at the flipper. I wanted to see a dead bounce there. All right, good flip there. Nice.
Holy moly.
Okay, two more on that.
Oh. Uh,
there's a ball save.
Yeah,
probably cuz he got a scope shot.
Hey, one one more should do it.
Hit the button. Hit the button. Hit the button.
Oh [ __ ] Ray. Oh, I mean farts. Oh,
Ray. He had it. It is hard to tell when it actually starts. Raymond,
someone roll the clip. I want to know if if he turned around right away, he would have gotten it. But
oh my goodness.
Hey, second place is is still quite a feat. I mean, to even get qualified for this tournament, you got to play in 20 different or from 20 different pro circuit events.
Play in those that you you attend well enough to qualify for this thing here. So, all 32 players that we saw today are fabulous players.
Congrats to Omal. They all fought valiantly to get here. They fought valiantly here.
And Zack McCarthy comes out on top with an insanely quick Sentinel moment.
That was blindingly fast. I now I want to go and uh play some pinball, I think, and see how fast. Well, that's later tomorrow.
We got We got a giant check to hand out. We've got a belt to give away.
Yeah. But um internet on behalf of Stern Pinball and Mountain Dew and the IFPA and Mark Bentau of Backhand Pinball and just everyone in charge of running this whole thing. Uh Elizabeth Gizky and I thank you so much for watching. If you stayed for this whole thing, go get some sleep.
You're the real winners.
All right. Love you, internet. Have a good one. We'll see you on the next one.
Thank you.
Of course, the micro still live, right? Okay.
So that Golden Girls game, am I right?
Are are these these mics are still high?
These mics still high. Oh, I mean girls.
Let's get back to work. These All right. Woo. Woo! [Music] Chad, as always goes, I just want to say thank you so much for hanging out, watching the live stream, tuning in for a wonderful number of hours. We'll call it that. A big shout out to Elizabeth and Jack Danger for throwing down commentary for an absurd amount of time. I appreciate it and it means so much and I'm sure the community loves it too. A big thank you to all of the TE's, volunteers, everyone that helped scorekeep make sure that this thing ran smooth as it did. Thank you so much and uh a big shout out to the players, everyone that qualified, you know, big congratulations to them. It's a huge accomplishment to get to this part of the year and be in the top 32. And finally, Zmac wins another event. Huge grats to him. prize pool pinball machine and Ray taking second right behind me. So, thank you again. Cheers y'all. Go play some pinball. Go have some fun and I'll see you guys soon. Shout out to our sponsors, the IFPA,
Stern Pinball,
and lastly, Mountain Dew. And thank you for Interium for hosting. Yeah, thanks. And thanks to all the volunteers. So, what did you think of the new format? Was really interesting. It wasn't It was both more stressful but also less stressful because you didn't have to worry about the ball draining. I mean, it was annoying when it drained, but you were just so focused on offense. And I think that's what makes football more fun is when you're offense instead of like defending all the time. And this tournament was 100% on the offensive, just getting the objectives done.
Yeah, the tournament was was moving quickly. You were playing constantly. You didn't have to wait for a long game. It was almost always your turn to go. Uh it was great. It was really fun.
Yeah. So that final match against Zach, I was in trouble because I already picked all my favorite challenges. So I had to pick all the ones I really didn't want to pick. And then sometimes I I decided to let Zach pick, but that didn't work out either. So it was just I was in a bad spot. And then um it didn't help that he basically perfect in every speed run. Like he was he was getting world records on every game. Um I tried to keep up. I almost got him last game. I did get him on one game so it was fun. Good time.
Uh he's the fierce competitor. Uh he's never out of it. Um he's always just right there and um he's best to describe it. You drink Mountain Dew?
Yeah, I love being Mountain Dew. Yeah, get out and play some pro circuit tournaments and hopefully we'll see you at the next circle.
Oh yeah, the uh Mariners. I wonder are they playing today?
I know. [Music] right. Thank you.