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Episode 71 – Hiatus

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Nov 30, 2017
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt announces January hiatus; Silver Ball Saloon opens with pinball machines and competition plans.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast Episode 71 announces a hiatus until January 4th due to hosts' personal commitments. Ron Hallett discusses his new bar, Silver Ball Saloon in East Rochester, NY, which features pinball machines including a Stern Stargazer and will host a high-score competition. The episode covers industry news including Guardians of the Galaxy shipping with .65 code, Deep Root Pinball's John Popaduke announcement, Highway Pinball's continued funding issues, and technical deep-dives into classic pinball flipper mechanics. A secondary segment features Bruce Nightingale reporting from the Silver Ball Saloon's soft opening on November 28th.

Key Claims

  • Slam Tilt Podcast will go on hiatus until January 4th

    high confidence · Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale, opening segment of episode 71

  • Ron's Silver Ball Saloon in East Rochester is probably the only place in the Northeast vending a Stern Stargazer

    medium confidence · Ron Hallett describing bar features

  • Guardians of the Galaxy game shipped with .65 code and lacked call-outs due to approval issues

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing This Week in Pinball coverage of Guardians of the Galaxy

  • Highway Pinball sent a letter to customers about lack of communication and delivery delays

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce referencing This Week in Pinball news coverage

  • The Bally flipper bat style changed during production runs (between Embryo/Fireball and later games like 8-Ball Deluxe)

    high confidence · Ron Hallett's detailed technical research on Bally manuals and parts catalogs available at pinball.com

  • Big Game was when Stern transitioned from old-style to new-style flipper mechanics

    medium confidence · Email correspondence from Scott quoted by Ron

  • A mysterious person known as 'The One' was promised as a future interview guest

    medium confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing future interview plans

  • Silver Ball Saloon soft opening on November 28th was successful with good attendance from friends, family, and local community

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale's on-location report from the bar

  • A coil stuck on Grand Prix at Silver Ball Saloon soft opening, owned by Zach

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale reporting from soft opening

  • Deep Root Pinball's John Popaduke will make a big announcement in March

Notable Quotes

  • “The only, I think, I have to say it, probably the only place in the Northeast that is actually vending a Stargazer, Stern Stargazer. You want to play it? You come see me.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~11:00 — Highlights unique offering at his new bar venue

  • “Have fun beta testers, enjoy! Welcome to the world of beta testing. Yes congratulations congratulations while you debug the game.”

    Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale @ ~25:00 — Commentary on Guardians of the Galaxy shipping with incomplete code (v.65)

  • “I want my money man. They're gonna be a bunch of like Stewies. Yes. I want my money man.”

    Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale @ ~30:00 — Humorous response to Highway Pinball customer frustrations

  • “So either Embryo or Fireball was the first. They both had them, but whichever one came out first. The chicken or the egg? The chicken or the egg.”

    Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale @ ~44:00 — Technical deep-dive on flipper bat design history using period documentation

  • “Don't Get Cute With This Game, and More Pain. Even Steve Bowden said that to you.”

    Ron Hallett (reading email from Harry Jackson) @ ~53:00 — Reference to notable Stern Stars player feedback

  • “If there's any trepidation, what I can do for the one, because he's the one, I will edit the podcast and send him a preview. And anything he thinks is a problem, we can edit out.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~73:00 — Offer of editorial control to secure interview with The One

  • “It was really good. We had a lot of friends and family come over. You know, food tonight was all free, but the drinks were...and we did really well.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~91:00 — Report on Silver Ball Saloon soft opening success

  • “We did have one casualty, unfortunately. A coil stuck on Grand Prix and melted it completely. But it wasn't my game. It's all Zach's fault.”

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSlam Tilt PodcastmediaSilver Ball SaloonvenueJohn PapadukepersonStern StargazergameGuardians of the GalaxygameHighway PinballcompanyThis Week in Pinballmedia

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: Silver Ball Saloon soft opening November 28, 2024 in East Rochester, NY with pinball machines; full opening imminent

    high · Bruce's on-location report of successful soft opening with good attendance; Ron promoting venue throughout episode

  • ?

    code_update: Guardians of the Galaxy shipped with v.65 code missing approved call-outs; approval delays cited as reason

    high · Ron and Bruce discussing This Week in Pinball coverage; explicit statement about missing call-outs and approval issues

  • ?

    product_concern: Highway Pinball facing backlash; sent letter acknowledging lack of communication and need to deliver machines

    high · Ron and Bruce referencing This Week in Pinball news; customer complaints framed humorously as wanting their money back

  • ?

    machine_intel: John Papaduke (Deep Root Pinball) planning major announcement in March 2025

    medium · Ron citing message from Nick referencing announcement heard on Eclectic Arcade Gamers Podcast

  • ?

    historical_signal: Deep dive into Bally flipper bat design changes during production era; documented via parts catalogs and manuals at pinball.com

    high · Ron's detailed research on Bally manuals showing part number transitions (A-3994 variants) and visual documentation on Slam Tilt YouTube

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Transcript

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0:00
Uh, I was like, born without any arms or legs. Yeah, me too. I was born without any nads. Yeah, it really sucks. I guess all my kids will be born without nads too. You dumbass. So am I. I hope they'll be girls. Hey, we don't allow any panhandlers here. Yeah, Beavis. What? He doesn't want you hanging around, you know, handling your pan. Don't worry dude, I tried that once and I didn't make much money. Everybody just like stared at me and stuff. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host Ron Hallett here with my co-host Bruce Nightingale. Oh my god. My god? We're opening. You're opening. It's coming. We'll get to that. We'll get to that in a second. And welcome to the Slam Tilt Podcast. This is episode 71, Rocky V. Yo, Adrian, I got a TV. Yeah. I saw that all over the internet this week with Black Friday and Rocky holding up a TV. Oh. This is the one with Tommy Morrison in it. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Yes. I will start off by saying the slam-tilt podcast will be going on hiatus. Not a hiatus hernia, but a hiatus until, I was going to say June, God no, January. Yes, we're back January. I think the date we're saying is January 4th. Or the next week, sometime in January. No, I think January 4th. Oh, you just slave-driving me already. No, yeah, 4th or the 11th. Yeah. That's the plan. There's just a lot of stuff going on. Bruce has the bar. Yes. And Ronnie's got some stuff where pinball is far on the back burner at this point. Yes, totally agree. And we've actually been running 70 out of 71 weeks. We've gone nonstop. That's ridiculous. Yes. Every week. Actually, I was planning for two weeks being off this year because of Christmas and New Year's falling on a Monday. And who wants to record on Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve? And who wants to record Christmas Day or New Year's Day? So that was going to be our two weeks anyway. We're just going to add two more weeks to the beginning because Ron's got some stuff going on. I have a lot of stuff going on. If you want to hear me or see me, come check out the bar. What bar would that be? That would be the Silver Ball Saloon in East Rochester, New York, at 135 West Commercial Street, East Rochester. Two minutes off an interstate. I looked it up on Google Maps and it looks like it was formerly some other tavern. It was. It was called Tavern 135 before this and then Bistro 135 and then the Jazz Club 20 years ago. And it has parking in front of it. It has a ton. We have a shitload. We have the parking spots. It's on the main drag of East Rochester. So there's parking spots parked in front. And then right across the street is a municipal parking area. Open, free. www.willywonka.com Yesterday, I posted many a Robin Hood by may channel title, light KI Jeger show, Fast Forwarding, Mil I'm going to be the only person in Rochester with a functioning ball bowler that you can ball. The only, I think, I have to say it, probably the only place in the Northeast that is actually vending a stargazer, Stern Stargazer. You want to play it? You come see me. And hopefully we're going to have a high score competition. And if many high scores you can get up there, you'll be prizes. So you come to the bar, you get your name up, you post a picture to it on the page that we're going to put up, and then we'll keep track of it for you. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. From him, it's not even funny. Yeah, I told him it resets, then he can't get it to reset. Yep, and now I can. Now you can. Well, it reset one day three times, and then it hasn't reset in two days straight. Get that one. Weird. Yes. Very weird, very weird. But the resetting, it looks like one of the custom chips. But we'll figure it out. If not, I'll get the board shipped out or get another geek piece in there right away. We just got a message, Ron. Oh, okay.

medium confidence · Message from Nick mentioned on Eclectic Arcade Gamers Podcast, referenced by hosts

Bruce Nightingale @ ~95:00 — First equipment casualty at new venue's opening event

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operational_signal: Silver Ball Saloon hosting high-score competition with prizes; December 30th match play tournament planned (4 hours + finals)

high · Ron announcing competition structure; Bruce mentioning upcoming December 2nd Path of Play charity event involvement

  • ?

    venue_signal: Silver Ball Saloon claims unique inventory: only Northeast location vending Stern Stargazer; 17 pinball machines on site with more coming

    high · Ron's promotional statements; PinballLifter.com partnership for equipment placement

  • ?

    content_signal: Slam Tilt Podcast announcing 4-week hiatus (November through early January) after 70 consecutive weeks; resuming January 4th or 11th

    high · Opening segment with Ron and Bruce confirming hiatus dates and reasons (bar operations, personal commitments)

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Hosts actively recruiting interviews: pursuing The One with editorial control offer; Tim Larson (ENID Pinball) offered; Orin Day mentioned

    medium · Ron and Bruce discussing interview strategy; messaging encouragement to prospective guests

  • ?

    community_signal: East Rochester/Buffalo pinball community activation: Silver Ball Saloon opening coordinating with Buffalo Pinball group, Path of Play charity (Dec 2), and Zach Sharpe's multi-machine Star Wars setup

    high · Bruce mentioning Buffalo Pinball involvement in Path of Play; Zach's participation in soft opening; future tournament planning

  • ?

    product_concern: Grand Prix at Silver Ball Saloon soft opening suffered coil jam and melt on first night; reportedly owner's equipment (Zach's machine)

    high · Bruce's on-location report of casualty during soft opening event

  • ?

    collector_signal: Stern Stargazer identified as extremely rare in location-vending context; Ron claiming Northeast exclusivity for this distribution model

    medium · Ron's statement about Stargazer exclusivity at Silver Ball Saloon versus typical home-only availability

    • 6:44
    Yes, the message is from, well, we could say this. Won't give away too much. It's from Nick, who we had on in his wonderful EM tour, his repair tour, which is still going on, I think, to a certain point. To a certain point. He's changing his plans up, I think, in the future. He said he's going to make a big announcement in March. Big announcement in March. Because we heard that on the Eclectic podcast, Gamers podcast. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. I'm John Popadiuk, and I'll see you next time. But it was, I do not believe that was the case anymore. I did a little more research and I actually fired the laptop up for the first time since the stream on Saturday and noticed it was kind of slow. That's when I realized it was downloading updates. And I mean really downloading updates, like, I don't know, 13 to 15 gig of updates. Oh, you're on Windows 10. Windows 10, which had some kind of major update. They had a major, major update. Yes, but here's the problem I have with this. Now, on Windows 10, you can set up a little time period where you say like, you know, I'm using it during this time, right? So I assume that meant like, don't fuck with me during this time. No, that doesn't mean that. It just means that I will download updates and install updates. I just won't ask you to reboot during that time. Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi, Disco Nek's Grouponizing, The Thanx Boogie, Tim Kitzrow non-report, 🙏 F electical era.... I sold my partout You next. All winners are granted a music我们能陈 discharged flip bloom basket and a The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. There is no option for that because it figures if you're wired, you're never going to be metered. But there's a registry hack for that which I put in. So when I am wired, I'm also metered. So I should not have this issue again. And the other thing is when you download 15 gig of updates in like over 100,000 files it downloaded, guess what it does? It installs it, then it cleans everything up and guess what you're left with? A fragmented drive. Because I don't have an SSD in that one.
    11:03
    So just a little tech, an annoyance. So I hope that the next streams I do, I will not have that issue. Because that really pissed me off. Because I didn't really have... The only issues I had with the other streams were the machines breaking. That one... The machine didn't break. Yeah, the machine didn't break. The stream broke. So I still can't get it right. Fail.
    11:24
    So let's see what we got. This is... Warning, this is probably going to be a short show today. You know what I watched this week? What did you watch? Porn? I watched two full episodes of Roller Games this week. Really? Oh, on YouTube, probably? Yes. Okay. I was about to say, it's the only place I could think of. Rock, rock, rock, rock, in Roller Games. It's just funny how you see all the graphics and then the Pepsi things up there. They really... It's like, hey, that's in the game and the team names. The Rockers, Team Thrash, the Violators. Yes, the Violators. Is that your favorite? What's your favorite team name, Bruce? Personality of the hashecy. Hardline SEO Membership Chataki
    12:25
    smartphones The Wally Winka Show, Knapp Arcade, Bally Williams, Straight Down the Middle, Bally Williams,
    12:57
    John Popadiuk Bob Betor Keith Elwin Laser Los Bowen Kerins Lyman F Sheats Jr orbit ramps Automated Amusements Python Anghelo Joe Kaminkow Tim Kitzrow Scott Danesi And then when the bar opened I wanted to see if I could be like the first paying customer Yeah you would have been And surprise Bruce but alas that did not occur Nope unfortunately But I see you've updated the site, because it was saying that you had like 40 days to open when it was like a couple days. I didn't even check now. Yeah, it says there's one day, one days, one days, 14 hours, 51 minutes, and 18 seconds. Yay! Hey! I'm going to look right now myself. I'm not even going to do the math to see if that's actually correct. I'll be able to do the math really fast. I'm just waiting for... Come on! Here we go! Come on, speedy internet! Oh no, you're probably going to drop off. Yeah. Your Skype will drop off. Probably. It'll be my luck. It'll be the third week in a row, wouldn't it? One hour... One day, yep. 14 hours. Yep. 15, so... Uh... No, that's not right. Yeah, it isn't, is it? Yeah, it is. It's not right. formation reassuring
    14:10
    Book 1 Opening hunch Butch P I'm just listening to Karl's voice. Like, ah. He really should get into radio. I must say, thank you, Karl, again. You know. Stern or JJP, hire him for voiceovers. Yes. I'm telling you. He's like easy soulful music. Of course, he's probably there. No, don't say that. I got enough to do. I don't want to do any of that stuff. He's going to make shirts. Did you see that? No. Please elucidate. He's talking about making critical hit shirts with the death guy on the back, the Mordecai I think that's the game's name. I got to look real fast. Now you got me. The Death Guy. Critical hit with the Mordecai plague shirt. Mordecai. So you had it right for once. I was right. Holy fuck. You remembered? Oh my God. I didn't get to see his stream though because it was so late. I didn't get to see it because I was at the bar so late. I was just like crashed. And the stream, what was on the stream again? It was the Paragons, dual Paragons. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. Mark
    16:33
    This call me George. Come over to my house. I might put something in your trick. You never know.
    16:44
    So let me look at here. We got going to This Week in Pinball. Yes, which I must. Big shout out. Thank you. Thank you very much.
    16:55
    They actually did a nice write up, a little tidbit for me. Me, me, all me. Yay. All me. That's thisweekinpinball.com. For this week, if you scroll down, you will see a story about the Silver Ball Saloon. Hey! Woohoo! I know, go figure. So I will scroll up to the news. Guardians of the Galaxy, which streamed the day we recorded last time, so we talked a little about it. We did. And the one thing I did notice, I noticed this during the stream, that there were like no call outs at all. What I didn't realize is there were supposed to be. Yeah. I mean, you figured there was eventually going to be call outs, but there was actually supposed to be call outs in the code for that stream, but there were issues with approvals. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, and supposedly a lot of them were like Rocket Raccoon or a Rocket Raccoon impersonator, and they're supposedly very funny, which I could totally see. I cannot wait. And the two licensed songs, I guess they play when you're not in a mode. And I was trying to figure out like what made them play, what made them not play, so there you go. And the game is shipping with .65 code. Have fun beta testers, enjoy! Yay! Wow, we've got to that point where your owners, you are literally beta testers for the game. Welcome! Welcome to the world of beta testing. testing yes congratulations congratulations while you debug the game so what else do we have here scrolling down he has something on deeproot i love deep ass they are john popaduke what a great move let's skip over that uh highway pinball people are still pissed yep i want my money man they're gonna be a bunch of like stewies yes i want my money man hey uh you You got my money? What's going on? You know, it'd be a shame if something would, you know, happen. Like what? I don't know, no, no, I'm not psychic, man. Sorry. I want my money, that's all I can think of. Just, I want my money, man. I want my money. And they sent a letter out to customers, lack of communication, blah, blah, blah, blah, you guys need to make games and get people their money back, etc. Definitely. Stuyvesant posed to NASA, McKinley Scholz, Mammoth Tr older, a James Loughlin, former owner of Pinball Inc., Ramp Makers extraordinaire, That's good. If we have him on, I'll ask him, how's the World Cup soccer ramps coming? No. I'd ask him that every year and he's like, it's in the queue. It's in the queue. It's in the queue. Well, it's still in whatever queue. Where's my ramps? Because my ramps are totally trash. And speaking of that World Cup soccer, did you buy your next color DMD? I saw that.
    20:28
    It'll probably, that'll probably be next purchase. I can see that. I like the game that much. I love World Cup soccer. I love that game. That is like, that is one game. There's games that piss me off, like say Dracula, Stars, and there's games that just make me happy. And World Cup soccer is just like, ah, love that game. I don't see how anyone could not like that game. Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi, Tim Kitzrow, Tim Kitzrow, We're going to have to do our partner weekly podcasts. No, those have to go four hours now to cover us. Yeah, you got to do four hours. You got to surpass us. You got to take it to the next level. Yes, and then you can throw our names in there at the end of the beginning. There you go. Perfect. Love those guys. And they don't edit like us. No, they don't. They go dry. So they're naturally talented. No, we suck. All our stuff is just edited together. Yep. I'm going to release the unedited version, get feedback on what people like, and then re- no, no I'm not doing that, that would be terrible. Let's see uh... John, what's up, Trudeau? His next court case is January 11th, 2018. His court date, yeah, January 11th, I will not be paying attention. Neither will I. No. I have one question. Okay, I have an answer. No, you won't have an answer, I know you won't. Oh, okay. How's Stern's coffee table book doing? Was that that thing that they were asking everyone to do the Kickstarter for and contribute money to? Like, to celebrate 30 years, which was last year? Now we're at the end of 2017 and it's still not out yet? Yep. How's that going? Of course, they could just say, you know, that they're not actually making it. Someone else is, but... No, Stern's not making it. It's another company they went into partnership with. Mm-hmm. What the fuck? Where's our book? And there better be a slam-tilt podcast chapter in the book. Hate? No, no, a full chapter. Yes, of hate. That'd be fine. Yes. So Jeff Giolis announced on his show, he had a good show this weekend with the Free Play Florida guys. And man, he busted on poor Josh again. He did. And he just never, never... Never lets up. Never lets up at all, yeah. But he talked about his 100th episode now being with Roger Sharpe. So now we can actually say it because we've known about it for about nine or ten episodes. It's been killing me. I've had it bottled inside this whole time. Okay, folks, this is actually the first time I've heard this. Oh, I thought I mentioned it to you. No, you didn't mention it to me. I've known about it for a while. The first time I heard it was listening to his podcast where he said it was good. I've known about it for like weeks. Thanks, Bruce. That's good. I wasn't supposed to tell anybody. He said, that's perfect. See, I proved that I am a good secret holder. It is good, man. He didn't even tell me. Woohoo! So if you got a secret, just tell Bruce. Give it to me now.
    23:50
    Did you check out the menu at the bar? I saw the picture. I saw the burger. That's all I needed to see. That's all that matters to Rob, right? That's all that matters to me, and I moved on, yeah. How about chicken tenders or fries? Well, yeah, I'll eat the fries. Chicken tenders, eh. Deep-fried hot dogs? I'm not a hot dog guy. Really? I'm really not. Curly fries? Or tater tots? Nah, not really. Mac and cheese bites? Ugh, no, no. Yeah, I am allergic to cheese. Pretzels, Bavarian pretzels. I'm not a pretzel guy. Mozzarella sticks? Nah, not really. Potstickers? What's that? They're like a little dough with meat inside or a vegetable. All right, I might try that. Yeah, not bad. I'm not a pretzel guy. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. What kind of pie do you like? Apple? I feel like doing a rock promo here. I know. I'll tell you the kind of pie, but no. I don't really eat pie, Bruce. You don't eat pie? No cake? Cake, if it's chocolate. That's it, Bruce. What kind of cake is like chocolate? What kind of ice cream is like chocolate? What kind of sundae do you want chocolate? Okay, so triple chocolate cake I'll get. Because there's a bakery right around the corner from the Silver Bowl Saloon called Leo's. Leo's Best Pies and Cakes Around. Excellent. Showed, definitely.
    25:37
    Death by chocolate, baby. I think that's it for the news. It wasn't that much that really happened. No, and I don't think there'll be much when we're gone. Because the whole world of pinball will now stop and freeze. Because we're not on. Yes. Okay. Except for the new update for Batman. And Batman. Yeah, there have been updates, and supposedly it's getting better. It's better you get the minor villains now in there, so that's... I'm sure Lyman will come through. So Steve Bowden now took one step ahead of Josh again. How did he do that? By being on another podcast other than Josh was. Other than Jo... Okay again Bruce none of that made any sense I think what Bruce meant to say is that Steve Bowden was on a podcast that our podcast whore as we call him Josh Sharp has not been on Yes. And that's the Head to Head Podcast with Martin and Ryan C. Very good show they ran this weekend. I had to translate for the Bruce-ism there, so hopefully everyone understands. Check that out. Fun with bonus in Australia. Australia, mate. I don't say put a shrimp on the barbie because they say it doesn't happen. That's right. Don't say that shit. We don't want to hear that crap. So, Ryan C., I listened to their podcast and I think he was joking about not staying over at your house. I mean, clearly he's going to come over, right? Of course he is, yes. All right. He better. And he better stay here. Come on, Ryan. You can have one half. You can have the slam and then the tilt. There you go. You can say which collection you like better.
    27:21
    Which will be easy because half your ones are at the bar. Exactly. So I lose on that one. I really lose on that one. He doesn't like old games anyway. He'll just park himself in front of like Metallica or Dialed In or something.
    27:34
    Come on. Don't be a snob, Ryan. Come on. Play some of the oldies. Feel the pain. Yeah. Feel the pain of a game without a wizard mode.
    27:42
    Wizard modes. I've been playing a lot of Dialed In. Transcription by CastingWords I'm a little concerned with me. That's why the mini wizard mode thing is perfect. It's like, ah, beautiful. So there's that little mini wizard mode. I got to something, I'm happy, and that's all that matters. Yep. It's just like my Spider-Man. I'm never going to see superhero, and that's fine. I don't have extra balls on or anything on that. I have it set up ridiculously hard. I'll never see superhero. But I will see Battle Royale. Yes. And Battle Royale is awesome. Yep. And I'm fine with that. So let's see.
    28:45
    What else do we got? Uh, all right, let's get to mail. The first mail... The first mail was Adam. Was? Yeah, Adam and Eve. Oh, God, that's bad. You know, I was gonna do an edit, but that is so bad, I'll leave that in. Yes! Excellent. Win! All right, we got email from Scott. As usual, a summary of how awesome our podcast is. Uh, no. I asked about the cheetah and was it a hack or not, what I saw. Man, I wish I took a picture of it now. Because he said, did you take a picture? Like, damn it. You failed on that part. He said, Keillor got the cheetah over six years ago. God knows what happened between now and then. And as you know, he's not much on maintenance himself. He said it. Not me. Don't blame me. I'm reading what he said. I don't remember the post under the playfield. I didn't really do a lot to that game. That was in the era of buy all classic sterns quickly. Man, I wish I was doing that back in that era. Since I have a very large stock of six, yeah, number six screws, I don't think I'd have robbed one from each mech. Most likely, I just didn't do anything with it. The post with the flipper seems like a hack, though. Did you take a pic? No. I don't use the power resistor to draw power. I just make the EOS open up a lot earlier. That way, no burn marks under the playfield. Let's see. Big game is when they move from the old style to the new flipper. I said that, I think, unless I said cheetah again by mistake, but I meant big game. Earlier big games came with the old style, oh really, and later came with the new style. I did not know this. So they changed during the run. Hmm, interesting factoid. The new offset style is so much better, not least of which is that you can put bolts under the coil stop if the plates are stripped out and the base metal is thicker. Goddard will be joining us on Friday at 8 a.m., as we move into the rear of us in just a moment. ス Prevention covered by Harbor Mesa, Are sea meetings affordable? Is snoring or meowing a good thing for kids who are sick? How terrible is COVID If questo- This is Brian E. I always replace them with plastic anyway. Right around the linear flipper change seems right, because I guessed Rolling Stones, because that's when they went to the linear mech. I think so, yeah. That's what they say. This bothered me, so I had to do some research. And? So I dug into the Bally manuals and parts catalogs, which are all available at pinball.com. Planetary Pinball has them all online. All online. It was awesome. So if you want to look this stuff up, you're like really geeky like me and you need to know this information.
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    And I was able to determine, at least per the parts manuals now, someone is going to chime in and say, well, I had an original so and so and it had the one piece and what you said is wrong. I'm just going by the manuals in the parts catalogs. And even then I couldn't get it. I have, it's one of two games. The Valley Company, Subsidiary of Walter Kidde & Co., Inc., Mirco Playfields, Tim Kitzrow, Scott Danesi. You can clearly see it in the manuals. So and Fireball 2, if you remember, has like the red flipper bat and an embryo on it is just regular white. And I think it was like three, like A-3994 was like the new part number and then dash and whatever number after that was like if it was, you know, a certain color or if it was translucent, you know, like Medusa or something like that. That was interesting to me because that means games like 8 Ball Deluxe, per the manual, had the old style, which the reason this interests me. And I know Scott said he replaces them all with the newer style. The only issue I have with that is if you look, and this is on the Slam Tilt YouTube page, see what I did there? Some traffic to the page. Wow. There's a flipper pad video there where I have basically all the flipper, well, other All the Stern, Bally, Flip or Batts of the early solid state era, I have like the old Stern, old Bally, the two-piece ones, the newer Bally, and the newer Stern, like big game and after. And you can see looking at them, like the Stern and Bally, the old style are about the same dimensions. But the one-piece Bally molded Flip or Bat is much wider. So if you're putting that like in an 8-ball deluxe instead of what was originally in there, you're definitely going to get more of a flipper hop. Well, 8-ball deluxe is flipper hop anyway, that's the way it's designed, but it's definitely like a bigger, it's a wider flipper bat that was in there originally. Again, if you go by what the manual say. So that's enough of the geek segment. So either Embryon or Fireball was the first. They both had them, but whichever one came out first. The chicken or the egg? The chicken or the egg. Now that everyone's asleep, you can wake up for the second email. Oh, hey, hey, hey, what's going on? Yeah, our second last email. This is from Harry Jackson. He just sent this today, like right before he went on. Hey, Slammin' Tilt. Hey! Just wanted to write in to say that I am now a proud owner of Stern Stars. Welcome to the club. Welcome. Ron, I watched the replay of your Twitch stream and am interested in the flipper rebuild that you mentioned that you did on your machine. Okay, what I had to do is, Stars has the Type 1 flipper mechs, and mine, all the holes were stripped to shit. So, I had two options, basically, which was either to tap new holes, or use Type 2 flipper plates, which I had from my 9-ball, the one that supplies the parts for all my games. And me. Yeah, so I replaced it with that and then found out that, oh shit, the two-piece flipper bat, Stern flipper bat, actually doesn't work because the shaft isn't long enough. I hate when my shaft's not long enough. There we go, there we go. So I had to use one of my one-piece flipper bats, which are a little narrower, so it's a little different than what was originally in the game. I'm going to miss the podcast all day. I pulled it out and then I just put the flippers down a little bit further so I could get a little more power towards that spinner. That's the adjustment I made. Mm-hmm. And let's see. I definitely took some notes there. Oh, no, I'm sure. I had family over during the holiday weekend. I was showing them how to play stars. My tutorial consisted of now classic Ronisms, Don't Get Cute With This Game, and More Pain. Even Steve Bowden said that to you. More pain. Pain. I want to give a shout out to your recent guests for their great appearances. I definitely took some notes during your discussion with the Pinball Princess about See Which Repairs and Karl DeAngelo has a great radio voice. Ah, see, degrees. Maybe he could give Jeff Teolis a run for his money. Oh my. As far as the pinball machine themes geared towards women, oh, we're finally going to get one. Besides the lowest hanging, can't believe it hasn't been mentioned yet, Fruit of the Golden Girls machine. John Popadiuk, Bob Betor, Keith Elwin, Laser Los, Bowen Kerins, My next best suggestion would be a pin themed from the Bachelor TV show. It says you would have 30 or so women or dudes for the bachelorette variant on the backglass, a fantasy suite multiball, the final rose wizard mode, and you could pick the potential suitor whodunit style. I know Jay from the Buffalo Pinball Bro crew would be down for five limited editions at least. Wait, that's the wrong intended demo. Call me Gary Stern, we can make this happen. Best of luck to Bruce this week. Thank you. With the big week for the Silver Ball Saloon, can't wait to hear all about it. Question, if you have a vegetarian option on the menu, can you call it the Never Beef? Or would that be some sort of infringement? Best Gary. Oh. Yeah, Never Beef. It still doesn't get any less just... Weird. Never Beef Productions presents... I'm surprised Tim hasn't slapped you around with that one. He has. He PM'd me how I'm like... Oh, I mean more. Oh. Well, if he streams tonight, he hasn't streamed in like a month and a half. I know. So what's the deal, Tim? Come on. I was getting used to the whole Sanctum stream. I feel like I'm missing something when I don't have it on Mondays. All right. Let's see what else we got here. We got a message from Jeff Patterson. Yes, we did. And thanks again for the plug on This Week in Pinball. Of course. Thank you again. Jeff and this one for you Tim Larson who just messaged us he said if we ever need an interview he runs ENID pinball ENID but I gonna go to it right now the group and it a town it a town of 45 at Oak The Valley Company Subsidiary of Walter Kidde Co Inc Mirco Playfields Tim Kitzrow Scott Danesi This is what happens when you have an IT guy trying to answer history. 48. It was the last state in the union accepted on the continental side. Okay Bruce. It was the Oklahoma territory. So history lesson from Bruce folks. And why was it the last state? Because we robbed it from the Indians. Oh, the Native Americans, Bruce. I call them Indians still because I'm just going by my Anthrax anthology. Your Anthrax anthology. Yeah, you know, greatest hits from Anthrax? Song Indian? You need to listen more to Anthrax. Dead silence. I know Scott Ian's a huge Yankees fan. He's a big Yankees fan. To the part where he got drunk and then stole like home plate from Legends Field. What's wrong with that? That was hilarious. Then what, he apologized on Howard Stern's show and got a pardon from George Steinbrenner. Yep. But that's a true Yankee fan. It is. So maybe we'll get Timothy Larson after we come back. Yep. Tim, PM us again. We'll start making that happen. Plus we still have to get Oren Day on after the holidays now. And then I think we have to get The One on. The One, please message us. The One is not going to come on, Bruce. You keep trying. You're not going to get The One. I tried that much lately. I really haven't. Okay. I have not done my job fully because I've been doing bar. And we promised not to talk about anything Stern related. No, we're going to talk about his past. And I'll tell you what. If there's any trepidation, what I can do for the one, because he's the one, I will edit the podcast and send him a preview. And anything he thinks is a problem, we can edit out. How do you like that? I would even make sure I don't, I talk nice about Mr. Gary Thurn.
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    But that's, I'm throwing that out there. We will do that. We will have, what is that? You will have creative control. Yes. Just like you do on Golden Girls. Yes, of course. I, I, but, but if it just does happen, we want to have a, like a little tidbit soundbite in Golden Girls.
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    Yeah, that's okay. Yeah. We, we want, can you give us just one clip, like something you're going to use in the game? The Silver Ball Saloon
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    Come buy, help me pay, or you can get them at www.pimballlifter.com. 17 pinball machines, at location right now. And we're going to be adding some more, and hopefully in the next couple of weeks. All lined up, ready to rock. PinballLiftr.com. Use your brain, not your back. Lift your pinball machines with ease, for lifters, tilters, helpers. Come check us out. hollywood Jane I don't know. $75. How much?
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    $375 to ship the jack and the lifter to France. That's not including the cost of the product. That's pretty expensive. Yeah, so needless to say, I don't think that'll happen for that gentleman, I hate to say. Who knows, maybe he really wants it and he'll say, like, that's not a problem. You never know. It's like 22 euros.
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    22 euros? Joking. Oh, sorry. Oh, God. Edit. No, no edit. We're leaving that one in there. Don't forget Pinball Star, selling for all your pinball machines for your Jersey Jack pinball, your American pinball, your spooky pinball, your Chicago Gaming chum check-em-out. And don't forget Flipper Fidelity, the best sound system for your pinball machines. He's also getting me a quote for not one but two pinball machines. Oh, did I say that out loud? Ooh. Maybe I did. Poopo. Hmm. Well, you kind of said who it was last week. At least one of the games. But you said a second one. Hmm. Second one. Hmm. So Zach wants two Star Wars. Yes. Like one isn't enough. He wants... He wants a dueling. Yeah, he wants to do a head-to-head challenge. Yes. He wants to do a heads-up challenge with two Star Wars. Yep. Ugh. Get it done. So, uh, other than that, don't forget Friends of the Podcast, I'll leave that up to you. Tim Sexton, T-Sax, Check out his Twitch and YouTube channels. Tim Balls, just search Tim Balls in Google. You'll have to find him. I can't think there's too many things called Tim Balls. Steve Bowden, Fun with Bonus. Hey Steve. Hi Steve. Zach, hi Zach. Hi Zach. Other podcasts like we got Pinball Profile with Jeff Teolos. We got the Pinball Players Podcast. With Jeff. Jeff, because everyone's named Jeff. You have this flipping podcast. You have the Head to Head podcast. You have the Bro Do You Even podcast. Talk Pinball. Talk Pinball podcast. This Week in Pinball. Jeff. Another Jeff. Again, you have to be named Jeff. You have to be named Jeff and be good at Pinball podcast or Pinball just to get a mention. And hopefully we don't forget anyone. Did I get all the podcasts? No, you forgot Nate. But is he still podcasting? Yeah, who knows? Come on, you know, I'll keep mentioning you, but man, come on. You can't do once a quarter. Oh, guess what I'm bringing to the bar tomorrow? Um, a Rush 2049. Nope. No. I am bringing the Slam Tilt Podcast poster your dad got for me.
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    I'm hanging that in the bar. Autographed? Uh, you didn't autograph it. Oh, looks like someone's gonna have to make a trip up there. I think so. On December 30th, you'll have to come up. Why? What happens December 30th? The four-hour match play match we're gonna have. Woohoo! Four hours of match play, plus finals afterwards. You can drink, eat, and be merry. What game's that from? Uh, no idea. Oh my god. Uh, Medieval Madness, maybe? No. Uh, Swords of Fury. No. Big Dick. Oh no. I used to own it. Oh God. Um. But you owned everything. And I hated it. Twilight Zone. No. Um. Dun, da-da-da, dun, da-da-da-da, dun. When the ball drains, that's the sound it comes up with. Ah, Champion Pub. No. I'm just gonna name every game I remember him owning. He doesn't have Tron. I only got rid of it a year ago. A year and a half ago. Oh. Um. A Gottlieb game. Um, a Gottlieb game. Uh, no. No. Williams. Diner? Nope. Hmm. Getting closer to years. Oh, okay. Uh, it can't be Taxi, because Taxi's awesome. Nope. Newer. Newer than Taxi. Yes. Uh, Gilligan's Island. No, I never owned a Gilligan's Island. You're a smart man. But you're getting closer to the yearage. Uh, yearage. Well, that's like 91. Yep. So if I just start going, we know it's not T2. It's not T2. It's not Getaway. Nope. Riverboat Gambler? No, that's 90. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. It's DMD. It's DMD. Popeye. No. Nope. You're killing me, man. I don't know what the hell it is. It's got a figure in it. It's got a figurine head in it that moves up and down and moves and follows the ball. Oh, no, no, no, no. Party Zone? Yep. Eat, Drink, and Be Merry. How could I forget? Capt. Bizarre. That game sucked. How could I forget that game? That game does suck. It does suck. If you ever play in a tournament, you actually realize that if you just go for that right orbit shot, that little mini orbit, and you hit it enough times, it becomes worth a ridiculous amount. It does. Yeah. I wish I knew that at Pinburgh. So I think that's it. We are the Slamtill Podcast. You can find us on the internet. Just search for Slamtill Podcast. We're on Facebook, Slam Tilt Podcast, and we are on YouTube. Search for Slam Tilt Podcast. Correspondence can be sent, although may not be responded to for a month. I'll respond. Bruce will respond. Will be sent to, please send to slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Again, that's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. You can continue to send suggestions for a women's pinball theme. Woohoo! At least we got one. That's better than none. And that was like last second. So thank you. So we will see you guys in January. See ya everybody. This has been episode 71, Rocky V, the worst Rocky movie. Yes. We'll be back. Come say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Joel Reeves.
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    But wait, there's more. We're not done yet. I have on location Mr. Bruce Nightingale reporting from the Silver Ball Saloon. It is Tuesday, November 28th. How did it go, Bruce, for your soft open? It was really good. We had a lot of friends and family come over. We gave away all the food. You know, food tonight was all free, but the drinks were...and we did really well. It was good seeing our friends Zach came out of course and Eric and Todd came out and Vance came out also so we had a good pinball showing but hopefully a lot more. A lot of the local town people came in eventually. We're just closing up right now. I'm extremely tired and I get to go to work tomorrow at 8 o'clock so I'm really feeling the burn. But a good first night and hopefully a lot more so if anyone can use the area come on out this weekend. I'd love to see people. Enjoy the pinball. We did have one casualty, unfortunately. A coil stuck on Grand Prix and melted it completely. But it wasn't my game. It's all Zach's fault. Hi, Zach. So I want to bring up also another thing that's coming up December 2nd, the Path of Play. A good thing going for a good cause. They're going to have, I think, Buffalo Pinball's going to be involved and a couple other groups, And they're broadcasting and streaming and earning money for the Path of Play. And it's a really good cause. So definitely check them out on December 2nd. So where can they find that? I think it's actually they have a Facebook page, it's Path of Play. Or you can even check out Buffalo Pinball. I think they have the poster up on their site also. All right. So overall, a successful beginning. Very successful beginning. Hopefully we get Ron out here soon. Hopefully. Have a good night. Good night, Bruce. Good night, Ron. Good night, John boy.
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