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The Pinball Show Ep 55: A Psychedelic Bearded Bromance Grows In The Wilderness

The Pinball Show·podcast_episode·1h 8m·held·Apr 12, 2021
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TL;DR

Stern delays, Spooky expansion, Pinside outage, and James Bond rumors dominate episode 55.

Summary

The The The Pinball Show episode 55 covers industry news including Stern production delays (Jurassic Park, Elvira's House of Horrors (Premium/LE), Star Wars pin games bumped to late July/early August), Jersey Jack's hiring spree and beta testing program, Spooky's new assembly facility doubling capacity, and the Pinside outage. Hosts Zach and Dennis discuss the Stranger Things topper, community reactions to the outage, virtual pinball drama, and speculation about potential Stern licenses (James Bond references noted).

Key Claims

  • Stern has delayed several game production runs: Jurassic Park (Premium) delayed a couple weeks, Elvira's House of Horrors (Premium/LE) moved from late April to early May, The Munsters (Premium/LE) from late April to late July/early August, Star Wars pin and Star Wars comic pin from this week to late July/early August, Batman 66 (Premium) combined runs moved to July only

    high confidence · Craig Bobby correspondent segment reporting on Stern production delays due to parts shortages

  • Jersey Jack Pinball is hiring for prototype model maker, mechanical design engineer, and director of production positions

    high confidence · Ken Rodberg correspondent segment noting JJP job postings on Indeed.com

  • Jersey Jack has launched a beta testing program for Willy Wonka (version 1.36) and Guns N' Roses (version 1.20)

    high confidence · Ken Rodberg correspondent segment detailing opt-in beta testing via Network Settings

  • Spooky Pinball new assembly facility will at least double production capacity, with the next title expected around June

    high confidence · Dr. John correspondent segment on Spooky facility expansion

  • Spooky is improving quality control by switching from IDC connectors with hot glue to Molex connectors, changing power supplies to eliminate noisy fans, and eliminating glass vibration issues

    high confidence · Dr. John correspondent segment detailing Spooky quality improvements per Charlie

  • Pinside experienced a 'catastrophic failure' at its server farm, resulting in an outage lasting nearly a week

    high confidence · Zach and Dennis discussion of Pinside blackout, with server farm reporting catastrophic failure

  • Stern released Led Zeppelin code 1.0 with new Band Boost feature, Diamond Record wizard mode, and new sound effects

    high confidence · Craig Bobby correspondent segment detailing Led Zeppelin code update

  • Stern released Avengers Infinity Quest code 1.01 changing background display effects and portal animations

Notable Quotes

  • “We got a lot of feedback about the lottery scratch off ticket people... a $10,000 lottery ticket is not worth the effort to scratch it off.”

    Dennis @ early segment — Humorous debate about lottery tickets and wealth perspective between hosts

  • “Dude, we'll grow beards together. We will wear flannel. I'm roughing it... And when it gets cold at night, we don't have any heat because you can't start a fire inside a cabin.”

    Dennis @ campfire banter segment — Illustrates the 'psychedelic bearded bromance' promised in episode title

  • “I feel this hobby has gone to a lot of people's heads in a bad way... I just can't watch this hobby I've enjoyed so much being turned into commercial cabinet software sales.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ virtual pinball drama segment — Reveals burnout and commercial pressures affecting virtual pinball community

  • “it's a freaking desert out there in terms of credible rumors these days... Stern must be battling this problem as well.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ Stern news correspondent segment — Indicates lack of Stern title announcements and parts shortage impacts industry-wide

  • “This is a video podcast, basically... I put so much editing visually in there.”

    Zach @ Straight Down the Middle discussion — Meta-commentary on content creation efforts and audience engagement

  • “Back to the Future to the Future happens, you better stay away from me... It's more likely to happen than Harry Potter, but...”

    Dennis @ James Bond/Back to Future speculation — Expresses skepticism about Back to Future rumors while acknowledging probability vs Harry Potter

  • “Damn near had a blackout doing it because that thing is stunning. Just stunning.”

    Zach @ Stranger Things topper reaction — High praise for Stranger Things topper design and visual execution

  • “After paying an extra 500 why not make me wait longer”

Entities

Stern PinballcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyZachperson[name withheld pending review]person[name withheld pending review]personKen RodbergpersonDr. Johnperson

Signals

  • ?

    supply_chain_signal: Stern, Jersey Jack, and other manufacturers experiencing COVID-related parts shortages and shipping delays affecting production timelines across multiple games

    high · Craig Bobby notes delays across manufacturing 'every industry out there in the world seems to be experiencing COVID-related shipping or part shortage delays' and specific game delays documented

  • ?

    product_launch: Multiple Stern titles experiencing 2-4 week delays: Jurassic Park Premium, Elvira Premium, Monsters Premium, Star Wars pin games, and Batman Premium all pushed back from original schedules

    high · Detailed production updates from Craig Bobby correspondent segment with specific timeline shifts documented

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Jersey Jack Pinball actively recruiting for prototype model maker, mechanical design engineer, and director of production roles; signals capacity expansion or replacement needs

    high · Ken Rodberg reports multiple job postings on Indeed.com by Jersey Jack during Pinside outage

  • ?

    code_update: Stern releasing meaningful code updates: Led Zeppelin 1.0 adds Band Boost feature and sound enhancements; Avengers 1.01 updates visuals and animations

    high · Craig Bobby details specific features in Led Zeppelin and Avengers code updates

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Spooky Pinball completing new assembly facility that doubles production capacity; implementing quality upgrades (Molex connectors replacing IDC/hot glue, power supply changes, glass vibration elimination)

    high · Dr. John correspondent segment provides detailed facility expansion and quality improvement specifics per Charlie at Spooky

Transcript

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Warning, the following episode contains adult language and screaming goats. Listener discretion is advised.
0:11
The Pinball Network is online. Launching the Pinball Show. Coming up on this week's show, Dennis and I cover fallen icons, lottery losers, post-pandemic shows the great black out of 2021 chewy bacon fake pinball stern production updates new code new spooky upcoming american pinballs a playfield winner tripping balls with den den and a bromance is a brewing in the wilderness all of this and more coming up on the pinball show episode 55 it's gonna be a good one pinball is a game of skill for some it's a passion and a lifestyle It's time for the Pinball Show. It's pinball with personality.
1:10
That's how rough riders roll, Dennis. Zach and Dennis with the Pinball Show, episode 55. Din Din, how are you today? I'm pretty tired. You know, I've decided to become a volunteer firefighter, and I'm saving the world one server farm at a time. Oh, nicely done. It's getting hot, hot, hot out there, isn't it? Well, or at least in there it is. Oh, that's a Nelly reference. Speaking of, your favorite rapper died this last weekend. DMX. Yeah, I read about that. Poor fella overdosed. Were you ever a DMX listener? No. No? No, I don't think so. Rough Riders Anthem? Little Party Up? Not a Party Up fan?
1:52
I don't know it. But I don't know any Prince Philip hits either. so oh the world uh had a loss this week pinside died everything's dying no pinside's okay now for now it needed it just needed a break and maybe we needed a break from it very possible last week we got a lot of feedback about the lottery scratch off ticket people and you gave me a hard time dennis about i think i gave you one sentence because that was you and Greg, and you went, you know, I know you have to generate fake content. No. And stick things up. But telling people that it's not, if you have a $10,000, a winning $10,000 lottery ticket, and then saying that you should just throw it away rather than scratch it off. That's a stretch. I don't think I said that. What a flex. What a, what is, $10,000 is nothing. I said it's not life changing. And all I think I said to you off the air was. Mr. Rolex and Tag Heuer watch guy. That demonstrated that you have never been poor to think that $10,000 can't be life-changing. And I know people that with $10,000, they could wipe out all their credit card debt and start saving for retirement. And that's pretty life-changing. $10,000 in credit card debt. That's rookie. That's a rookie right there. That's not even an LE anymore. DMX would say, charge it to the game.

high confidence · Craig Bobby correspondent segment detailing Avengers code update

  • Final Round podcast hosts (Martin and Jeff) were throwing out James Bond references, suggesting potential Stern Bond machine interest

    medium confidence · Zach and Dennis discussing Final Round episode with James Bond references in context of potential Stern licenses

  • Pin Brew 2021 was the first pinball show/convention post-pandemic held in northern Ohio with good turnout and positive reviews

    high confidence · Zach mentioning Pin Brew 2021 as first post-pandemic show with positive feedback

    • Dennis @ Stern production delays segment — Sarcastic reaction to Elvira Premium delays despite premium pricing

  • “I think over time pinside's influence will wane... we may get an alternative”

    Zach @ Pinside outage discussion — Predicts long-term shift away from Pinside toward alternative platforms

  • “Tilt Forums is more a competitive-based forum... A lot of the serious people into the competitive scene have adopted Tilt Forums”

    Dennis @ forum alternatives discussion — Identifies Tilt Forums as emerging competitive platform alternative

    • Pinside
    organization
    Charlieperson
    Led Zeppelingame
    Avengers Infinity Questgame
    Stranger Thingsgame
    Jurassic Parkgame
    Elvira's House of Horrors (Premium/LE)game
    The Munsters (Premium/LE)game
    Star Warsgame
    Batman 66 (Premium)game
    Willy Wonkagame
    Guns N' Rosesgame
    Pin Brew 2021event
    Chuck Wirtperson
    Final Roundorganization
    Tilt Forumsorganization
  • ?

    business_signal: Pinside experienced catastrophic server failure causing multi-day outage; community relies heavily on forum for marketplace and information, raising questions about platform resilience

    high · Multiple references to Pinside outage lasting nearly a week; hosts note reliance on platform for transaction and repair information

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinside outage accelerating migration to alternative platforms; Tilt Forums gaining adoption in competitive scene; long-term shift expected away from centralized forum model

    medium · Zach predicts Pinside influence will wane; Dennis notes Tilt Forums adoption by competitive players; hosts discuss forum fatigue and platform alternatives

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Virtual pinball community experiencing burnout due to commercialization; vpinball.com forum owner closed site citing hobby degradation from cabinet sales and commercial pressures

    high · Direct quote from vpinball.com owner quoted on air expressing sadness about hobby commercialization leading to forum closure

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Final Round podcast hosts (Martin and Jeff) throwing out James Bond references in context suggesting potential Stern interest; 'No Time to Die' film release timing mentioned as possible trigger

    medium · Zach and Dennis discussing Final Round episode with James Bond references; Dennis notes No Time to Die release timing this year; presented as potential Stern license candidate

  • ?

    event_signal: Pin Brew 2021 marks first post-pandemic pinball show/convention; positive community reception and turnout noted

    high · Zach notes Pin Brew 2021 in northern Ohio had good turnout and positive reviews; Chuck Wirt won best modern game trophy with Stranger Things LE

  • ?

    product_concern: Tension between Stern messaging on IP protection and actual support for unlicensed toppers; Stern shared video featuring unlicensed Stranger Things topper while lecturing about license infringement

    medium · Zach notes Stern shared unboxing video of Stranger Things unlicensed topper while lecturing about IP protection; criticizes apparent double standard

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    design_innovation: Stranger Things topper features infinity lighting effects interactive with game; represents quality advancement in Stern topper design beyond standard 2D plastics

    high · Zach praises Stranger Things topper as 'A-plus' with infinity LED lighting, contrast to previous Avengers/Jurassic Park toppers; described as above-and-beyond visual execution

    • 3:14
    He barked a lot. I don't think $10,000 is a life-changer. Sure, it can wipe out some student loan debt or credit card debt. That's a life helper. I don't know if it's a life changer. It can be pretty impactful when you consider how getting out from under that saves you so much in terms of long-term interest and burden and stress. Once again, your logic is correct. But in the world of above-ground pools and easy lives and Florida trips during pandemics, I suppose, it means very little. Do you scratch off lottery tickets? I don't play the lottery. That's a poor person's tax. Oh, God.
    3:53
    Ladies and gentlemen, there you go right there. There you go. No, that was how I was brought up. That is, the lottery is a scheme. You do not, your odds of winning are so low that it's designed to trick people who are low income into giving extra tax money to the government. I don't approve of it. I don't think government should run lotteries. I think it's exploitative. Wow. But your scenario was if you had a ticket that was worth $10,000 that you'd throw it away rather than go to the effort of scratching it off. I didn't say I'd throw it away. I said any tickets that I receive as a gift, I don't want to scratch off. I let Nicole or somebody scratch them off. You said a $10,000 lottery ticket is not worth the effort to scratch it off. I'll have to listen back. I don't know if I said that. That may have been what you said in our textual discussion. Oh. That's what triggered me. Discord time? Yeah, I think it was on a Discord channel. I got you. That's a hot little Discord channel right now. No, I do not. I don't. I mean, if people want to play the lottery, they can play the lottery. But I don't really approve of the concept of the lottery because it's just, it makes people, it preys on dreams.
    5:08
    And it gets people, and some people will occasionally, we all know the people that's like, okay, it's $200. I've bought a lot of tickets before, but we know people that will be like, okay, I play it when it's over $200 million or whatever because $10 million isn't going to be life-changing enough. So we only play when it's $200 million. That in and of itself is funny to me. But I used to work – in high school and college, I worked at a bank. And I remember people would come in and they would cash their paychecks. They didn't have bank accounts or they had – this was obviously before we were as electronic as we are now. But I remember one time this guy came in and he cashed his paycheck and it's like he got, you know, a hundred and some dollars and he took the cash and he said he was off to go and spend it all on lottery tickets. And he said, it's my retirement. Oh, I was like, where do you think he's at right now? Dead. Oh, wow. I mean, I don't know. I'm just guessing. But I mean, my point being that, see, that was he had no retirement. His retirement was this hope and a dream, and all he was doing was giving extra tax money to the government. Of all the people who couldn't afford to do it, here he was doing it. He's like what my mama used to say growing up. He didn't even have a pot to piss in. Ever heard that saying? I have heard that. Oh, have you? It was a regional thing then, I suppose. Didn't even have a pot to piss in. Who's pissing in pots? uh my on my mom's side out when they were in the bush in alaska they would use cans uh those metal like folgers coffee cans ouch and they called them pecans oh that's clever they say it all really fast like pecan and i thought they meant pecans yeah i was very confused the first time they said they wanted me to to get them a pecan i got a p go grab me a pecan where are the nuts i'm like looking in the cabin i'm trying to find these pecans and they're like no a pecan i'm like Oh, you mean a coffee can that you pee in? Like, yes. I don't understand it, though. Why not just piss outside? It's just like a chamber pot. Pee outside. In negative 20 degree weather? You clearly, in addition to growing up with too much money, have never been in the cold before. You're going to walk out of a cabin to an outhouse when it is negative 20 Fahrenheit. You have got to be kidding me. If your cabin doesn't have running water, then what's the... No, these are real cabins in the woods. As opposed to fake cabins? There's no running water. Really? The running water is the creek. Oh, my gosh. Sounds like a horrible life. You're someone when you say you're going camping goes to a Holiday Inn, aren't you?
    7:47
    I get a cabin. I get a nice cabin with a loft and a game room and a hot tub. This explains so much about how we just do not see things eye to eye at all. Why can't you just go on a camping trip with me then? Show me the great dentist outdoors. I don't want a handhold, no bourgeois camper. Dude, we'll grow beards together. We will wear flannel.
    8:13
    I'm roughing it. I grew a beard. Look at me. I'm so roughing it. We'll chop wood. And when it gets cold at night, we don't have any heat because you can't start a fire inside a cabin. We'll snug. Yes, you can. In a stove. Inner spoon or outer spoon?
    8:30
    Outer spoon. You're nice. You want to talk about some pinball news? Let's see what our correspondents have. There's no news. It's time for TPN Industry News.
    8:44
    Hello and welcome to the pinball show's Stern News Update. I'm Craig Bobby. Well, I'm not sure what to tell everybody. Sadly, still no new title releases from the world's largest pinball manufacturer this week and very little leaking in terms of a theme, designer, artist, or a date, guys, it's a freaking desert out there in terms of credible rumors these days. I'm guessing the delays we are seeing are a result of parts delays, as every industry out there in the world seems to be experiencing COVID-related shipping or part shortage delays, and I'm sure Stern must be battling this problem as well. But here's one thing for sure, Zombie Yeti's incredible TMNT art is making a reappearance, this time covering a TMNT Stern titled Collector's Box coming exclusively to Walmart. The box includes a shredder action figure, a t-shirt, a beanie, keychain, and a magnet. And Dennis Creasel is rejoicing this week, no, not because his favorite correspondent Chris Chandler has returned, but double code updates from Stern in Led Zeppelin version 1.0 and Avengers Infinity Quest code version 1.01. The Led Zeppelin code contains numerous game enhancements including the new Band Boost feature activated by the action button, Diamond Record feature achieved by reaching a wizard mode, and new keyed sound effects for enhanced choreography and gameplay experience. While the Avengers code changes the main background display effect, which is now using the variations on scenes inside the Doctor Strange sanctum, instead of the Stark Lab trophy room, it added some new background display effects when the portal is open, along with instructional text. Both code updates also include additional polish, adjustments, and bug fixes, and can be found in the support menu of the SternPinball.com website. Well, that's all for this week. For the Pinball Show, I'm Craig Bobby. Catch you on the flip side. Hi, this is Ken Rodberg with your Jersey Jack update. While experiencing the great pin side outage of 2021 this past week, many pinball fans might have had more time to spend browsing online job websites. If they made their way to Indeed.com, they would have seen a raft of new jobs posted by none other than Jersey Jack Pinball. These jobs include prototype model maker, mechanical design engineer, and director of production. If you live in the Chicagoland area, this might be a great way to blend your job and your hobby. And Jersey Jack Pinball is offering an opportunity of a different kind with their Jersey Jack Pinball beta testing channel. If you own either Willy Wonka or Guns N' Roses, you can opt in to beta test new software for those games. If you want to be part of that, just go to Network Settings on your machine and let Jersey Jack know you want to opt in. You'll have to be on the newest versions of the code to make this work which is version 1.36 for Willy Wonka and 1.20 for Guns N' Roses Jersey Jack is hoping to get feedback so they can tweak the code before it goes live to the general public For the Pinball Show, this has been Ken Rudberg I am in the eye of the storm and a storm is indeed coming The Predator Pinball Machine's money has not been found I have been searching deep within many holes dug around these flooded plains in any trailer I can find in any rock, bush, shrub, or fiscus. No success yet. I have no news to report beyond this search. Kevin Kulik has not been found nor willing to respond for comment. I am contemplating hunting him down and taking a picture of his back. That's all I have for now, Ken and Bill. This is Dennis Creasel, special correspondent on Skit Beat. Back to you. Hey, this is Kaz with an American Pinball update. I reached out to Michael Grant, and while there's no major news, the team is hard at work on all the new games. I also reached out to Dave Brennan, and he has released new videos available on American Pinball's YouTube page and was also a guest on the most recent Slam Tilt podcast, episode 164, where they discuss all things American Pinball. I hope everybody has a great week and has fun playing pinball. For the Pinball Show, this is Brian Cosner.
    13:12
    Hi and welcome to this week's SHIT update on the Pinball Show with Dr. John. So the news out of Spooky continues to get better with the building of their new assembly facility, which has been confirmed will at least double the capacity of the game output numbers. so as we said last time expect an increased number above the 750 maybe in the thousands for the next title and we're thinking the next title may be sometime in June importantly fan club members Spooky has gone to a new server so your details may have been lost from your last fan club membership if you haven't received your bill for renewal or you haven't received the email yet explaining this please contact squirrel at spookypinball.com and she will set you up with a renewal of your fan club account. Lots of goodies are already being shipped for fan club members and ordering of the new title when announced will be two weeks in advance for fan club members as per previous titles. Importantly, Charlie has been working on the quality of games now that numbers are setting up. When asked specifics on this, he stated that from now on, Molex connectors will be used, not the IDC with the hot glue gun, as in past games. This will make transporting games more reliable, with the old dropping off connectors into the cabinet a thing of the past, hopefully. The power supply has been changed, so no more noisy fans and complaints from that, and they've worked out a way to eliminate glass vibration with their kick-ass sound system, which occurred in previous games. New factories due to be completed in the summer at this stage, so look forward to big things from Spooky in the near future. That's it for this week from Dr. John, and we return to the hosts of the Pitbull Show. Catch you next week.
    15:20
    You know what, Zach? It's always great to hear from our correspondents. It is. I love those fellas over there. We still need a deeper correspondent, don't we? Yeah, I guess we haven't really tried to recruit one. If you're interested, email thepinballnetwork at gmail.com and explain why you would be a great Deep Root correspondent. But don't go to too much effort. We had some news, so the correspondent would have been nice. We had one of our friends that reached out and was serious about becoming the Deep Root correspondent, but their vision was a bit different than mine. I was trying for the pinball network not to get sued, so I had to soft pass there. But that would have been good. That would have been good. Speaking of good, I heard that there was the first pinball show slash convention post-pandemic, and it was good. And that was Pin Brew 2021, which occurred this weekend in northern Ohio. I'm hearing that there was a pretty good turnout and reviews all around very good. I believe this was the first year they were putting on this show. Did you hear anything about Pin Brew? I did see a little bit about it. I'd heard people seemed to enjoy it. That's about all, though. I didn't look a lot into it. I didn't know how big of a show it was or anything along those lines. Yeah, I don't know how large, how grand it was. I chose not to. Well, you just said it had good turnout, so. Yeah, relative to what, I don't know. I guess relative to 2020 and no shows, it was great. Yeah, was it more a Louisville Expo Cincinnati kind of show? Was it more a TPF kind of show I don know But we do know that TPN very own Chuck Wirt took home a trophy Oh did he win a tournament Nope Well I wonder if they had a tournament Surely they did. He took home a trophy for best modern game with his beautiful Stern Pinball Stranger Things LE. Congratulations, Mr. Wirtenberger. Yay! Oh, speaking of Stranger Things, I unboxed my Stranger Things topper this week. Oh, did you install it yet? I did.
    17:27
    Does it work? I've got to say, they really did well on this one. They really did good. Yeah, versus the last ones where you said they did a terrible job. I like them all. You know that. So much that I created a contest bracket for them.
    17:43
    Yeah, that went over well. Whenever they did the Avengers topper, Jurassic Park topper, they're always solid looking. They look nice, but there's not a lot into them. 2D plastics layered with kind of a shadow box for lighting effects. They always are nice. They're solid, so I love them. But I like when they go above and beyond and do something a little bit different. We got some motorized toppers in the past with the Technodrome or the Black Knight sort of rage topper. This time it was more a visual effect in that lighting, in that infinity lighting with the LEDs. And, man, it's interactive with the game. It's really cool. This is an A-plus topper. But does that topper sell machines? I think it might sell toppers. I don't know if it sells the machine itself, though. We know how Black Knight helps sell machines. This one... Yeah, I mean, I heard that. I don't actually know anyone who... I've known people who have bought the Black Knight topper in case they might get the game, but I don't know that I personally can think of anyone that I know who said, I wasn't going to buy Black Knight, and then I saw the topper, and I had to buy that game. Man, nobody's going to admit to that, but deep down it might have been... Well, then maybe it's not true. Might have been the push. Maybe you're full of lies and deceit. But I'm not. I only report the facts here, Dennis. I could be wrong. I am wrong on a few things. Very few, unfortunately. But no, install the topper. It was beautiful. Check out my quick reaction video on Straight Down the Middle this week. Oh.
    19:13
    When's the next This or That? I don't know. That's the only Straight Down the Middle you watch. It's pretty much the only ones I watch. But I do follow, so you get a subscriber out of me, even though most of your content I don't care about. Crazy. Thank you for the follow. I'm always helping out people in this hobby. At least help a fellow out. Next time you click on a video, watch the entire ad in its duration. Or maybe click on it accidentally. I do usually watch the ads, but I do play your video at 2x. Are you shitting me? No, I do. Podcasts are fine, Dennis, but not video content. This is a video podcast, basically. No, not video content. I put so much visual. You and Greg are a lot of fun when you talk really fast. No. I put so much editing visually in there. I got to get that Indiana draw up to a real New York pace. We got to get that moving. It's a hilarious show, and you're missing all of the stuff. That just broke my heart. No, I don't miss any of it. I get it all. I just get it all in a shorter period of time. So we had a Stranger Things topper installation this weekend. I did see Stern Pinball. Well, my sour grapes were up because I saw them sharing an unboxing of a, what was that, Deadpool? Some influencer, I believe, in South America? It may have been Europe. I don't know. But shared a video of an unboxing of a Deadpool LE. But prior to that, the first five minutes were unboxing a Stranger Things topper. How about that, Dennis? Well, what? Do you think that they should be sharing your video? No, no, absolutely not. Why would they do that? When we're trying to help sell their products? No, they were unboxing a Stranger Things topper, and it was an unlicensed topper. Isn't that great?
    20:52
    Stern maybe is trying to do that to send a message that they are still supporting unlicensed modifications. We get lectured by Gary about infringing on licenses and ruining relationships.
    21:05
    Unbelievable. Yeah, so I unboxed that Stranger Things topper. Damn near had a blackout doing it because that thing is stunning. Just stunning. Bye, bye, bye. Speaking of blackouts, we had the great blackout of 2021 featuring Pinside. That son of a bitch fell hard. Yeah, sounds like the server farm had a little generator trouble. A fire started at the server farm? I believe the expression used from the server farm site was catastrophic failure. This just in, ladies and gentlemen, if you can smell that through the airwaves, Nicole, my lovely wife, was kind enough to bring me down a cheese omelet with bacon and sides of bacon. How about that? She's awesome. She's a keeper. I hate omelets. What? What's to hate? Cheese and eggs? You don't like cheese and eggs? It's the egg. You don't like egg in it? Not an egg, though. Not done in any sort of scrambled fashion like that. Eh. You like it over easy? Yeah, I can eat them that way. I used to gag smelling scrambled eggs, so. I can now sit in the room with them. Yeah, I used to have to leave the room. I couldn't. I'd peer over at them. Sulfur smell. In the corner of my eye. Might as well eat a box of matches. She even made the bacon like I like it, Dennis. Do you know what that is? Raw? I like it a little chewy. Like my bacon a little fluffy. You seem like that sort. Do I? Why, you like it charcoal-y? That's how a camper would eat it. Oh, God, that's a camper again. so pinside shut down for a good what four or five days yeah it was almost a week yeah people lost their minds yeah i saw i saw one of the facebook groups like i said no more threads about pinside we're gonna ban you oh you got some touchy facebook groups out there pinball enthusiasts well you know some of those facebook groups started up because they didn't like pinside pinball enthusiast such a turd group never follow them anymore i won't upload things on there anymore i got your pinball enthusiast right here buddy did you miss pinside are you a frequent user not i mean i usually go and check to see if any of the threads catch my eye but and i i found myself i was probably checking daily to see if it was up or not but yeah i don't post there very much other than like updating my egp thread for the latest episode yeah i gotta do that so i don't use it as much as i used to but the nice thing about pin site is it's really easy to follow discussions and do searches for information like if you want to do a repair or something that's what i like it for where i don't think the social media groups work very well but i've wondered if this will accelerate the transition to social media groups because i do think people are moving away from the old forum format because when push comes to shove who wants to maintain a whole host of different logins to work with things and that's just i think over time pinsides influence will wane i thought this might move that faster if anything we may get an alternative well i don't i don't think we'll get an alternative forum you would have to why not again it's so much trouble to move over to something new and we have an alternative it's It's called Tilt Forums, and it's barely used. Yeah, but Tilt Forums is more a competitive-based forum. But on paper, that's not what it is. You'll go to Tilt Forums and it doesn't say, welcome to the competitive pinball forum. Maybe I'll have to start dropping it like it's hot over there. That's what it ended up becoming. A lot of the serious people into the competitive scene have adopted Tilt Forums as the place to talk, but most of them are active on Pinside too. Some of our asshole friends messaged me and was like, How are you going to do market transact with no pin side? Oh, that's silly. Come on. You make that stuff up. What? You don't need that. You didn't need pin side for that. It does all come from my brain, from behavioral observations, from noted sales in the past to see increase on games. For those that don't understand the fancy pants speak, what he's saying is eBay. No, not eBay. A lot of information. That's basically pronounced eBay in the common tongue. not in your parcel tongue nonsense it's not just a place for my ray day hat it's a it's a brain and it works quite well i guess this wasn't working though v pinball.com closed its forum site are you familiar with fake pinball.com forum or it's i think i've seen their forum before yeah a little drama over there i guess in the virtual pinball world first they were supposed to have an award show a couple months back and then drama filled it and they canceled that and then this drama involving pinball and award shows say it ain't so even touches the virtual ones yeah but vpinball.com if you go to that right now there's a there's a quote i guess from the owner of that site and it says the following i feel this hobby has gone to a lot of people's heads in a bad way i just say it like that because there's exclamation it's actually very sad to see and i'd even say embarrassing another exclamation so i'm closing this all caps free sight down sorry but i just can't watch this hobby i've enjoyed so much being turned into commercial cabinet software sales sorry to all the vpb authors contributors members and moderators lick my balls no the last piece wasn't it so uh i think vp forums which is another prominent forum site for virtual pinball just got a big old hard-owned after hearing this news i don't know their participation levels changed that much they were already i think the bigger one yeah that's a good point sorry v pinball say hello to dmx for me i don't know exactly what uh what what was meant though by the statement about... Again, I don't frequent that forum, so I'm not sure if it was just getting inundated with ads where people were basically taking virtual and trying to hawk computer cabinet-powered virtual pins or something. Everybody builds their own freaking VP. That's the thing, isn't it?
    27:24
    Well, there are companies that sell them. Like VP Cabs. I just think a jobber is always messaging me, Have you seen my VP pin? No, I don't care, Jobber.
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    Love you, Jobber. I just think it's so sad that virtual pinball gets more publicity and clicks than real pinball. Why sad? Because it's ridiculous. We want that exposure for the real stuff. Well, if the real stuff was affordable, maybe we could talk. Or if the real stuff could get produced quick enough, which brings us to our next topic. Stern Pinball is in the news. We got some production updates for Stern Pinball. Yeah. So they, like many manufacturers, I believe, are running into some parts delays. We've seen that in all types of manufacturing, not just pinball. But I think that we've seen some delays at Jersey Jack because of it. We've seen some, maybe that's what CGC is waiting on. Who knows? Stern Pinball. We had, I think Jurassic Park Premium was scheduled to be run and released another run last, maybe a week or two ago. But last week it just, so they're on a couple weeks delay there. But as an update to many of you out there interested in new pinball machines, you're not going to probably hear this from a lot of podcasts. But they've switched up some production stuff. For example, Elvira Premium, which everybody's been waiting for that run. it was slated to begin third week of april now kind of bumped back first week of may so we get a couple weeks there not bad though that's not bad right sure after paying an extra 500 why not make me wait longer and if you've been waiting since october anyway i think they're still doing a monsters premium color run probably the last one that was going to be late april i can't believe they can still sell monsters that's fascinating i know i know and they're all spoken for too it's It's not like I can even buy one. Late July, early August now for that. Star Wars the pin and Star Wars comic the pin. We were supposed to have those this week, I believe. They've bumped those back to late July, early August. And Batman Premium. That's a big one. They were going to do a couple runs, May and July. But they actually have combined those and we're just going to see that in July now. But they do have Led Zeppelin Premiums rolling off the line as we speak. So, Dennis, do you think that with these, for Stern, it seems like small little delays. Do you think that is why we haven't seen their Q1 cornerstone yet?
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    It's probably part of the reason. But, you know, with the pandemic delays and when they ended up launching Zeppelin, maybe that also helped just influence a pushback and an intent not to do a Q1. I mean, we're out of Q1 now, so. Oh, that is true. We just jumped out of there. I know we've heard a lot of rumored titles. I found it interesting that final round with Martin and Jeff, they're often in the know. Is that the phrase, in the know, in the know? Well, they have many contacts and sources. They do, and they're sneaky. And their entire episode really was throwing out some Bond references. James Bond. Say it ain't so, Dennis. James Bond? Well, I mean, No Time to Die is supposed to come out sometime this year now, I guess, unless they delay it yet again. Ain't nobody got time for dying? That's what I would have named it. Ain't nobody got time for dying.
    30:59
    Yeah, that's a great long name. Ain't nobody got time for dying. We were so close to Back to the Future. No, we weren't. And no one cares. We were so close. Quit trying to make that a thing. It's so annoying. I can't. I'm not trying to. It's already a thing. It's not even a thing at this point. It's a thing. One third-party cameo contracted statement, and all of a sudden, everyone's pretending like Back to the Future's on the line right now. It's ridiculous. This hobby is ridiculous. If it is, I'm going to kiss you. If Back to the Future happens, you better stay away from me. You little sexpot. I'm not saying Back to the Future would never happen. It's more likely to happen than Harry Potter, but... Oh, well, gee, thanks for the confidence there.
    31:47
    I'm just being honest. But don't take fake rumors and act like they're real discussion points. It's silly. We've heard Godzilla, Elwynn, but that's probably not. We know they have the Godzilla license, so that one makes sense to think about. Here's something I want people to think about. And Godzilla vs. Kong, Zach.
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    It's done huge numbers. Did you watch it? No. I haven't been to the theater yet. It's on HBO Max. Who goes and watches Godzilla and Kong on a little TV? It was good. So you will go to the movie theater to watch Croods 2, but Godzilla vs. Kong, living room. Don't you talk nasty about Croods 2. That's my jam. I'm just trying to show people the threads of your hypocrisy. If you guys want to move your recommendations, stay tuned. So I don't know what's coming next, but I'm hungry and I'm itchy for something new. Hungry, hungry hippos. I could see American Pinball doing that. It's licensed. No, they won't. No, it doesn't have a story. I keep trying to tell people that. It doesn't have a story. Well, maybe there's like a YouTube show where the hippos have a story now. Nostalgia is one thing. Who was I talking to? I was talking to somebody about that this week. Jobber. No, I talked to Jobber, but no. They were mentioning some really dynamite toys that were very nostalgic. But I said these companies have to be careful. Like Rock'em Sock'em Robots? Okay, yeah, that. like a G.I. Joe possibly? Well, G.I. Joe had a cartoon though, so you can do stories in G.I. Joe. Was that a huge cartoon?
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    I think it was pretty popular. I watched it as a kid, so it was a big deal to me. I thought it was pretty, I mean, people yeah, I thought it was big. I don't know if it was as big as Transformers like where it rates versus Transformers or He-Man or whatnot, but my point is they had stories. Some of this toy nostalgia, you just have to be careful because you run into the Hot Wheels effect where you think you get these nostalgic themes like a Hot Wheels, everybody had Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars, right? But if it doesn't, if it isn't personified, listener, then a lot of people, it's just not going to be as strong a license for a pinball machine because you want to identify with some of those moments And usually those moments don come from the toys themselves It comes from the associated film or TV series cartoon series what have you It's why things like He-Man, Masters of the Universe, Thundercats, these things would work well because they had toys in addition to an extremely popular cartoon series. I do 100% agree. The things like Transformers, like the cartoon, that's what I think most people want to tie to in some capacity, though those cartoons did exist explicitly just to sell toys. Yep, sure. In fact, the Gen 1 Transformers movie, which killed off so many Transformers people wanted, did that to try and get kids to buy into the new toy lines. Yeah. And instead it just made all of us cry. Well, we think about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, same thing. Hmm? Same thing. Toadles. Mm-hmm. If it was just – I would boldly say if it was just the comic books and it was just the toys themselves, let's say hypothetically the toys were a hit without the TV series, that would not be as good of a seller. Yeah, and that's why I don't recommend like micro machines. Sure, sure. Like that was my big car thing was I had more micro machines than any – than Matchbox cars or Hot Wheels or Tonka and like the dump trucks and stuff. I wouldn't do a pinball theme on that, even though practically every kid I knew growing up had a Tonka toy. Well, somebody mentioned, and I think it is a really interesting theme, and initially people would be like, oh, hell yeah, Garbage Pail Kids. Now, I think you think, oh. They did have a show. Super Nostalgia. They did have a show. I don't know how popular that show was. I don't think it was on all that long, but there was one. So that would be something I would worry about. Super nostalgic, but nostalgia alone, it's an equation, and you need that associated series of some type. I don't know why I got off on that tangent. Sorry, we got new code? Dennis, you love code. Do we really have to talk about it? I'm going to be quick. Led Zeppelin, version 1.0. We're at the finish line. No, it's done. Good. And we have Avengers Infinity Quest 1.01 on AIQ. It's beyond done. Good. Yeah, AIQ, we got a lot of balance, cleanup. Zeppelin's 1.0 had a ton of stuff had some tweaks, adjustments they added a lot of sound effects a lot of sound effects, choreography I like how they have some chords in there that are now perfectly matched with some of the shots and a band boost feature I'm not going to go into it here but there are a lot of added gameplay features and strategy with this band boost feature you can store them once you collect so many You can utilize five of them as like a super booster or whatnot. So go follow, listen to all the streams, follow Ray Day, Pinball. He'll equip you with all you need to know about band boosting.
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    Jersey Jack Pinball also has new code, GNR 1.20 and Wonka 1.36. They're both done done too. Super done. This is an interesting concept. So basically this new code enables the user, if desired, to be a part of future beta testing, like a group of beta testers prior to these official code releases. What do you think about this idea? Being able to be a beta tester via the Internet? Yeah.
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    That's pretty common in video games to allow this as an option. So I don't find it as an innovative idea, but it's fine. In five years, Dennis, if you were to guess which manufacturer was leading the way with Internet technology and innovation, who would you say that person or company would be? Multimorphic. Do you think so? Yeah. Okay. I think they've been ahead on the Internet stuff of everyone. But they have people climbing quick. And I have a feeling – Yeah, but you asked who was innovating. If they're the ones first in the pinball field, then they're the ones that are first. It's like an objective thing. This is a factual statement. Well, I'm just – I'm saying in five years, who do you think will still – who's going to be the one that people are talking about? I don't know if in five years we're still going to be talking about internet connectivity innovations. We might be – those of us might be enabled and they'll just be what they are, and innovation will be taking something other than online connectivity. We'll be done with – I want to say we're done with it like we're not doing it anymore. We're done with it in the sense that it's caught up to video games and that's that. I see. Now we're back to talking about RGBs like they're special. And toppers. Yeah, I think that Stern Pinball, once they do announce their internet connectivity, I think you're going to see a lot of features all at once. I feel like Stern Pinball is way behind on it. Way behind. They have talked the internet game for years and it's been all talk. Yes. That's very true. And I would have thought if anything that could have been worked on during the pandemic, it would have been finally getting that done. I thought Turtles would have been the first, but we've seen that come and go. Spooky Pinball is here to stay. We heard Dr. John reporting that Spooky Pinball is building again to facilitate a higher production number of games in the future. He said that we can expect total number of games for this next title to be in the four figures with a possible reveal in June. I guess that means they're sticking with licensed themes because otherwise there's no point in being able to make four figures. That's such a great point, actually. See American Pinball. We know that David Van Ness is a new designer. He works a lot on animations and coding stuff, but he's the new designer for this one. Do you think it gets a Dynamite license, or do you think it gets a Tepid license?
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    I'd lean more to Dynamite from Tepid, though I don't know that they're going to announce something that's going to be as instant sale hot as Rick and Morty was. Sure. I think it's going to be a... But I expect something better than Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie. I think we're going to get about that. That's my guess. You think it's going to be another dark rock theme? Not a rock theme, but I think we'll get maybe a horror film or maybe a fantasy film or series that is not like crazy popular, but is well known. I don't know if you take your new designer and throw the works at them with the great licenses that are out there. I think you get on par with something like a cult classic Firefly or something like that. I don't need emails, people. Firefly would sell really well. I've not seen a damn show. Well, maybe not with what's going on with Joss Whedon. I don't know. If you ask me, it was so hot it went on for one whole season. Nice job, everybody. Yeah, but you did say cult. following sort of thing. I think it would sell better than people who are fans of Rob Zombie's rock music metal stuff. I put it ahead of that.
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    But that's where I kind of put a Firefly feel like, eh, that's well known. It's got a following. I think they would be, especially if they're planning to go into four-figure production, I think they would be better served maybe not trying to get a cult hit and just get something more iconic, but older and maybe affordable. like a Halloween or a Friday the 18th or something.
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    You know, given the reports that they already tried to do Evil Dead and they can't get Bruce Campbell to sign off without an exorbitant amount of money, I'm guessing they're still not in a position where they want to do that. Not to mention, if that's what happened with Ben Heck's design and there was all that fallout with that, do you go back to the well on that license and do someone else's design and maybe upset the apple cart? Yeah, you don't do that. Because they're kind of getting along now? I mean, I don't want to inject a bunch of drama into it, but sometimes it's as much of managing people as it is managing parts. Absolutely. I'd still like to see it. But that's what I think. I would, too. I think it would be an excellent choice. Or I still think Army of Darkness would be better to do. Oh, no. Don't ruin it. Yeah. I want my stop-motion skeletons on the display. Let me have it. They also updated their online server over at Spooky. A lot of upgrades over at Spooky. So if you are a Fang Club member at Spooky Pinball, you're going to need to update that membership. You heard Dr. John talk about it in preparation for that next title because Fang Club members do get a two-week head start on ordering new titles when announced. And if it's anything like Rick and Morty, if you're not a Fang Club member, you're not a fanging buyer.
    42:39
    I tried to run Fang as fucking a fanging buyer. Yeah, it didn't work. Everyone will know what you wanted to do at least, so that's okay. Moving right along, they are increasing the build quality on future games as well. For example, no more hot glue IDC connections. Oh, my mozzarella strings. I hate when mozzarella sticks get blown out. Man, it's like the biggest blue balls situation. You just want them held in with moisture, and now it blows out and you have a hollow mozzarella stick. The worst. I don't eat mozzarella sticks, so I don't really know what you're talking about, but okay. How in the shit do you not eat cheese sticks? I just don't think they taste very much.
    43:21
    With some marinara? Well, yeah, then they taste like marinara, which you could just... And fried onions? Around here we say marinara, but... Man, I love cheese sticks. You probably like olives.
    43:35
    You do, don't you? We're not talking about this. What else is Spooky doing? What about glass rattling? Are they going to finally solve that? Now Spook is going to be utilizing more Molex connections instead of hot glue guns. And they're updating their power supply, thank God. And no more glass rattling from the sound system. Oh, phew. I spoke with American Pit Mall this week. Oh, did you? Yep, had a meeting with them and their executives about... Was it in the C-suite? No, it was not. They invited me up. But no, I talked with them about dealer kind of stuff and keep most of that confidential. but I don't think they would mind me saying that they still sound like they are going to try to get two games out in 2021. Given these production issues that all the manufacturers are having, I find that extremely ambitious, but I guess they can try. I just don't know how it's going to be done. The only way I can see how it's going to be done, and it is the recommendation that I strongly gave them, if their next title is indeed unlicensed, I think it is, then limit the hell out of it because unlicensed pinball machines don't sell in large quantities. Limit it, make it special, and move on to the next. Now, we don't know if that following one, we know this one is heavily rumored as unlicensed, but we don't know if the following, that'd be game five, is licensed or unlicensed. And they're ready to roll. They've got many in design right now. I don't know. I think you sell pinball machines by limiting them, having them ready, especially if they're unlicensed. That's it. When are people going to learn? Maybe never. Speaking of never learning, it's Dutch Pinball again, and they have new code for the Big Lebowski version. If they're following the same formatting. This ain't done. 0.55. This ain't done. That's a new tagline for Dutch Pinball. When did this game come out? Five years? I don't know. Hmm. This software update adds extra ball opportunities, bonus multipliers. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Bonus multiplied. Nihilist, showdown, add a ball, and various other improvements, and rules, diagnostics, animations, audio, and toys. The software fixes the toys? Yeah. How does that happen? It just goes in. There's a 3D printer in the Big Lebowski's. It would explain the price point. And it just prints you a whole new toy. Please wait two and a half days for new... Hey, now there's a pinball innovation. Someone needs to mount a 3D printer on their play fields, and it actually prints something based off of what you do in the game. John Borg's working on that right now for every new Bash toy. He's like, I will make them live in your pinball machine. Are people still buying Lebowski? I don't know, but it sounds like they're still making them, which is far more than I ever thought they would do. They're still in a race with Pinball Brothers and Alien Pinball, I have no idea what's going on with that I'm not following it I think they got a couple finally shipped to the states we still haven't seen the LE or DX or EX or whatever Nintendo Switch version Pokemon it is now I don't know oh Dennis can we give away a play field now if you want or a topper bracket I'm just glad that it's over because I'm tired of all the complaints in the email to your terrible topper selections I don't like when you have a topper king that reigns over the land, you're going to have peasants and plebes in town hall that try to throw tomatoes at you. That's I expect that it comes with royalty off with their heads. I thought I picked a damn good objective, too. I didn't look at your final bracket. Actually, I didn't look at any of them. Given away of play field and can't even look at the. Yeah, but I don't care, and that's really the moral of the story. The final came down to, surprise, surprise, Stern Pinball's Black Knight sort of rage, and the Cinderella story of Stern Pinball's kiss topper. Can you argue against kiss topper? These people act like it's a shit topper. It's a hit topper.
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    Yeah, I think a lot of people really like how it looks when they see it in person, and one could argue that if you have it and you see it in photos, it doesn't do it justice. so that could be part of it. I mean, I would never send it to the finals, though. I don't think it's particularly impressive either. We had one individual that took it to the Elite Eight, so he was the only smart one out there. But the March Madness Topper Bracket Busters is now over. You can see the final results on the Facebook page of the Pinball Network. We'll also put you the top ten finalists, just to see kind of where the top ten ranked. And we have a winner. winner of the hobbit pinball playfield with 51 correct answers drum roll please or 250 tougher discount mike w congratulations mike w i think it's michael winning our buddy well he must know your mind yeah he's good he's an avid fan and follower and listener congratulations mike message us and i think i've got your address because you've won stuff before but we'll get that out to you. Coming in second place with 50 correct answers. Oh, only one off. Oh, but here's the sad thing. So he was one off, but he forgot to fill in one of the match-ups. One of the round one match-ups. Yeah, between Wonka CE Topper and High Speed Beacon Topper. Forgot to fill it in, so that's an automatic X.
    49:24
    Oh, he could have tied. I would have had to cut the playfield. I would have spit this playfield in twain. I would have had to cut the playfield. It would actually be a more playable game that way. Oh, stop.
    49:35
    And training up Hobbit, I just sold one of them, a standard, for like $7,200. Had 20 people wanting that thing. $7,200. Hmm. What did I tell you a couple weeks ago? I don't remember. BJP Games Collectibility. 50 correct was Rob Armstrong. Congratulations, Stretch. Nicely done. So Stretch Nasty's taking home a banner Get a hold of me and let me know what banner you want I'll see if I've got it in stock Maybe he'd like Wonka In memory of the forgotten matchup Do you have Wonka banners? I don't think they ever made Wonka banners Oh, too bad They've got GNR ones though Man, all of this topper talk All of this banner talk Sounds like a market is brewing behind us No, Pensight's been down We've got to cancel out the segment. It's unfortunate, but sacrifices are often made in the name of science. What are some of the animals that are sacrificed the most? Lambs? I don't know what you mean. Do you mean by the ancient Greeks, or what are we talking about? Religious, deities, ancient Greeks. What gets sacrificed? People. Didn't the Aztec or Mayan or something chop people's heads off and see them tumbling down the staircase of the pyramid temples? I've watched too much Apocalypto. Yeah, I was going to say, it sounds like someone's been watching Apocalypto. Man I love that film I really like that film I think Lambs Some refer to Apocalypto as Croods 3 It really completes the trilogy
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    That's the evolution. Lambs, sheep. What about goat? Do goat get sacrificed? No. People like goats. Watch out, Luke and Leia. Your number's up.
    51:25
    on the next final round ryan c will make yet again another guest appearance where he will challenge it will challenge orby to force luke and lay to drink the maple syrup oh and that way i wonder if that makes you have maple flavored goat meat oh man smothered ryan c was so prickly and salty during that show he like poo-pooed orbital hour he's like Orville Auer challenged me like fuck off it's probably hard in Australia to get access to maple syrup when I was in the UK they didn't have grape jelly that's odd yeah it's like they I guess like black current instead yeah I went down the whole grocery store jelly and jam and preserve section looking for someone told me there's no grape in these they don't carry it and I At least at the store I went through, I couldn't find any. Maybe they got beef with Concord. That's neither here nor there. Okay, so market trends. Pimba!
    52:29
    Market trends, everybody! April 2021 edition. I cleaned out my sinuses. Turning up this week is the Big Lebowski. How about that, Dennis?
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    Hmm. I only report the facts here, ladies and gentlemen, and it is jumping up on the Pennside Top 100, all the way up to number 21. Come on. That, coupled with new code, like bonus multipliers? I mean, come on.
    52:55
    You were enjoying that game before. Now you actually have a functioning game with normal shit in it. I do see this helping the market on the Big Lebowski. So you're going to see that trend up. We haven't seen a big jump of Big Lebowski lately, financially, on the secondary market, with the entire market on a trend right now. I see that only helping Dutch pinballs I was going to say recent machine I guess most recent 20th century machine all streaming out this week bad trip not an actual bad trip ever had a bad trip there Dennis for tripped balls and ended up thinking you were an orange or something no would you ever do hallucinogens no No. No interest. Any shrooms with your coho sack?
    53:48
    Nope. In a cabin? Nope. Dude, I'm up for it. I will trip shrooms with you. What a shock. In the wilderness. I mean, in reality, behind your cloud of drugs. And we'll watch Croods 2 together. And I will bring a goat. It'll be epic. Pay-per-view. We can sell at least 500 copies of that. I want to get tacos after this. so we can move these market trends along. We can move the market trends. Bad Trip, featured on Netflix. Wow. Got a couple of recommendations for this film. This was from Greg Bone, and I hold Greg's opinion pretty highly. And then from my son, my 15-year-old son, and I was like, oh, okay. It's his favorite comedian, Eric Andre, Eric Andre Show. But it's called Bad Trip, Eric Andre, Little Ray Howry, and Tiffany Haddish, breakout star there. Woo! So good. So this is a Borat-like thing where there's a storyline, but the observers and the public are not in on it. So shit goes down, and you get these natural reactions. I thought it was going to be hokey and stupid. So far, my favorite film of 2021. It's training up. People are talking about it, and it was filth. It was disgusting. So it is not safe for the creasal colonize. Or for the little ones at home. But trending up is bad trip.
    55:16
    Also trending up this week is Watches with Dennis! I like how so far you've done one pinball market trend. Hey, you know what? My life trends. And Watches with Dennis is an important one. Now you could have went with a different title. Yes, I could have. For those of you who are not familiar, go follow, like, and subscribe a new YouTube channel all about the watch industry and collections. I'm waiting for a Market Trends segment on Watches with Dennis, but it's our co-host here, Dennis Creasel, going over the watch industry, because that is a hobby of yours. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now, you could have went with the title Time Flies with Dennis Creasel. Yeah, I ran out of time. Oh. That's what I kind of intended. Okay. Because the big industry event, Watches and Wonders, was starting up and I was in a rush to amass enough historical knowledge to be able to successfully, in my view, launch the show.
    56:18
    Unfortunately, I didn't spend a lot of time on logo design or title creation. It's like, oh, I have to fill those things in on YouTube. Wasn't the show like Watches of Wonder or something? I've been watching some of your videos. In my defense, most of the watch channels' names are stupid. So it fits just as well. you've got your most creative friend of all time in myself just a text five minutes i would have had you gold remember we we've been here i wasn't originally even going to announce on social media i was just going to let it be its own youtube thing and actually my first couple episodes were that way you were worried about me weren't you no i i'm it's in part an experiment so i want to see mostly how it might naturally grow if i can make it naturally grow just through the you i'm not familiar with youtube so i'm using this as an opportunity to try and learn how to do the video side of stuff and and keeping it out of pinball avoid stepping on everyone's toes because the content creators in this hobby are so sensitive i just don't want to deal with it anymore quite frankly and i'm like i and this gives me something different to talk about because i am talking about pinball so much already.
    57:30
    We'll do this and I'm going to learn Vegas Pro and I'm going to try and figure out how YouTube works. I've done some YouTube stuff but very little.
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    Just saying. Could have reached out. I enjoy it. No, I have no interest. I need to learn on my own. This baby bird has to learn how to make its wings strong.
    57:50
    Watch out for the goats. They'll eat you. Watch me talk. That'd be good. Watch me talk. Time is up. That's a good one, too. I even thought your nickname could be the Omega. No one in the field does nicknames. You have to understand, this isn't hokey like pinball. They take it a little more serious. Really? Yeah, they do. Well, it sounds like a market area that needs to be touched, tickled. Kiko, kiko.
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    Can I come on one episode? Maybe sometime. Maybe if I keep it going. We'll see. Time X Market Trends. I can't figure out what makes an episode, you know, which ones are popular and which ones aren't. It seems like there's no rhyme or reason to it so far. A lot of it's in that thumbnail and title. Yeah, I'm learning that the thumbnails are a big deal, so I'm working on making. I've custom made a thumbnail every time, so I at least caught on to do that. Color highlight your silhouette with a surprise expression. No, I never do a silhouette of me. Get a tutor in the background, and you're good to go. Turning down this week is nothing, really. The market's still hot. It's on fire. So no need to trend anything down. If you've got a pinball machine, it's worth more today than it was six months ago. Holding steady this week, I couldn't trend it down because it's not dropping, but you may see a drop in the coming months, and that's Stern Pinball's Jurassic Park Pro and Premium, a pinball machine that, frankly, I think should be on Dennis' watch list next. I really think you would like this game. I do like Jurassic Park, and I had thought about buying one before the pandemic. Before the stream. But I was able to play it on location. And I think we still have it on location. So here, once I get my second vaccination dose in the next few weeks, I'll be able to go and start playing it again. Here recently, I've been watching a lot of streaming. But I feel like Nicolas Cage and Wicker Man with the Avengers streams. The streams! The streams! Not the streams! And that did dampen my desire to own a Jurassic Park. It was last year when everyone was, what was it, pin clash? And everyone was streaming Jurassic Park, and it just oversaturated it. And that's what we're getting a little bit here on holding steady. They are running them. They've recently ran a big, big run of premiums. So you're going to see those fill the marketplace. They've sold a ton of Jurassic Parks. Oh, man, they've sold a lot of Jurassic parks. We've got pros coming out again next month. I believe premiums, another run of premiums next month as well, if not June. So we're going to get saturated with some Jurassic parks. You're going to see that affect the secondary market. But it's not going to drop-drop. That's why it's just going to hold steady maybe when everything else goes up in the interim. Save a buck or two, buy yourself a watch with Deals of the Week. Buy, buy, buy! Deals of the week this week you can find on Pinside now that it's back up There's a no fear on Pinside I don't know where the person's located because they didn't put it Drag Daily 12 is selling a no fear dangerous sports for $4,000 Now this seems a little crazy but this isn't deals of the voodoo This is deals of the week and I say so, this is a deal because it's non-faded. It's hard to find a non-faded Williams, no fear. Cabinet play field looked fantastic. He said it plays perfect, smooth. It's cleaned up. It's super nice. When you find a no fear without faded cabinet in really nice condition, you buy, buy, buy. Buy, buy, buy! Another deal of the week this week. I cannot believe this isn't sold yet by Seeger10494.
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    Ooh. Rolls off the tongue there. Out of Louisville, Ohio, the second most beloved Louisville in the country, a Deadpool limited edition by Seeger. Second owner, he's got about 250 plays, some mods on it, 10-5. Now, again, may seem like a lot, but numbers don't lie, and we only report the fact that you're a pen-monger or a marketant.
    61:59
    And Deadpool LE is always being sought after. Hell, the premiums are being sought after. They're not making any more. So, I'd go in at $10,000 on this all day long. He says firm. Fuck that. Give him $10,000. Buy, buy, buy! Last deal of the week this week is from Flippin' Out Pit Boss. It's a Flippin' Out special. It's a Hot Wheels, lightly used, home use only, and it's sitting in the Bones house right now. $5,900. Go to his house, bother him, bong a beer with him, and give him $5,900 cash. Buy, buy, buy! And get that thing out of there. Yeah, 59 firm. No way. What? You don't think that's a good price? Hey, you trashed everyone else's firm. but you defend Greg's. Well, no, we'll see. That's my game. It's loaning, but we'll see. You defend your firm is firm, but everyone else's firm, kind of soft. I'm only firm when I'm in bed, baby. I can play around a little bit. With the price. With the price, it goes. That was your pinball, motherfucking mock trance. X going to give it to you. Oh!
    63:05
    Let's close out the show, Dennis. Where can people catch you from now until two weeks from now? They can always email me, eclecticgamerspodcast at gmail.com or over at facebook.com slash eclecticgamerspodcast. That's over with the other pinball-oriented podcast that I do, and that one I monitor the emails for. So if you reach me, that's how you reach me. And you have not opened up watches with Dennis at gmail.com? Really good episode of EGP last week, so go check that out with Sweet Sweet Tone.
    63:33
    Does Tony still dislike me? I don't know. What the hell is that guy's problem? He likes authenticity. Maybe he just likes surrounding himself with drama. I'm a really nice, friendly, drama-free provider. Yep, everyone in pinball would agree with that. Always throwing the elm trees out there. Shade. You can email me at thepinballnetwork at gmail.com along with Dennis or at sdtmpinball at gmail.com. Go watch. I think we're recording some stuff here soon. And if not, you can see a new video on the Super Chex Bubble Hockey that we just now got into stock. And speaking of flipping out pinball, if you're ready for a brand new pinball machine, our product showcase this week is a Golden Tee 2021. Played around with the Golden Tee, Dennis? Oh, gosh, not for years. It's good stuff. I think we still have one or two in stock, too. So jump on that right about now. Stranger Things Pro, as well as Shooter Rod, still in stock. Once they're gone, they're gone. Avengers Pro in stock. Oh, shit. Nice. We do have pre-orders going for premiums. So if you want one of those, jump on those. Those are coming soon. Turtles Pro and premium in stock. Led Zeppelin Pro. Premiums are coming, I believe, this week. So I've got a couple extra spots. If you want a Led Zeppelin premium, get it now. You've got your new codes. You've got your expression lighting system. Hot Wheels is in stock. So is the MMR topper and display. Avengers side art. Team NT armor. some of the mods and stuff like that, contact me. I'll let you know what I got, banners, you name it. Jurassic Park Pro Arcade is now in stock as well. That's that badass sit-down shooter that you guys seen a video on. If you haven't seen that, go check it out at Flippin' Out Pinball or straight down the middle. And we're still taking interested lists. Last week at TPN, we got a final round pinball podcast with special guest Josh Sharp from IFPA and Royal Thrills and Ryan C. from Australia. Pretty good little episode. I like that. I liked hearing Ryan C. and T. Ellis fight a little bit. Who do you think would win in a fist fight between those two?
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    I think T. Ellis would take him. Sorry, Ryan. Yeah, actually, yeah, I think so. He looks like he hits really hard. Especially after this pandemic. T. Ellis has been cooped up.
    65:49
    He's pretty spry. He's ready. Ryan C. has been out there freaking hot-dogging it with the chicks on the beach. I think Martin would drive over either one of the sons of bitches in his BMW. As long as he doesn't get stuck in the ditch.
    66:03
    TPN this week. I don't know what the hell is coming this week. It feels like we're ready for... You know what? I think... Bruce, where are you at? You and Kat. We need another one of those. Yeah, we do. Maybe another off-the-record totally pinball with Johnny P. Midweek show would be nice. Puppet Pals. I don't know where the hell they're at. They're just a bunch of silly puppets. They're weaving the strands of Sharp's mustache. That about wraps it up. Yeah. Still don't want to take me up on the whole shrooms trip? Nope. Out in Oregon? Nope. We can be in a treehouse? Nope. Would you do any drugs with me? Nope. None? Nope.
    66:42
    You're no fun. For Dennis Creasel, I'm Zach Menning. And remember, whenever you're doing a code update, always try and get those bonus multipliers in within the first five or six years. And always practice safe. Pinball, do some mushrooms, have a bad trip with your bestie out in the wilderness, bearded, spooning, and in heaven. Up. So long, everybody. Y'all gonna make me lose my mind. Up in here, up in here. Okay. I know. That's terrible, though.
    67:13
    Taco time. All right. Up in here, up in here. Y'all gonna make me lose my cool. Up in here, up in here. If I gots to bring it to you cowards, then it's gonna be quick All your men that been to jail before, suck my dick And all the motherfuckers you run with, get done with, done quick How the fuck you gonna poke the dog with some bum shit? Then go to gun click, now I run one shit All over some dumb shit, ain't that some shit? And it just remind me of a strip club Cause every time you come around, it's like, what? I just gotta get my dick sucked And I don't know who the fuck you think you talking to But I'm not him, I ain't Slim, so watch what you do Or you gon' find yourself very next to someone else And we all thought you loved yourself But that couldn't have been the issue Or maybe they just saying that now cause they miss you Shit a nigga tried to diss you That's why you laying on your back Looking at the roof of the church Preacher telling the truth and it hurts