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Stream 540: Iron Maiden (LE) Stern

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 12m·analyzed·Mar 3, 2022
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TL;DR

Don't Panic Flip plays Iron Maiden LE with guest Escher, discussing mechanics and Premium/Pro edition differences.

Summary

Don't Panic Flip streams Iron Maiden Legacy of the Beast (LE) gameplay with guest Escher. The host George discusses game mechanics, mode stacking strategies, and rule depth while troubleshooting technical issues (autofocus, audio levels, knocker volume bug). Notable discussion includes Premium vs Pro edition differences, the 'Iron Maiden transfer' technique, and competitive tournament context.

Key Claims

  • Iron Maiden Premium Edition and Elite are definitively the way to go for this game

    high confidence · George stating from direct experience with both Pro and Premium editions

  • Pro edition has a mode start issue where it doesn't grab the ball reliably; Premium edition provides better feedback

    high confidence · George describing specific mechanical differences between editions during gameplay

  • The orb (Sarcophagus mechanism) on Premium edition doesn't work every time, even on direct hits

    medium confidence · George noting this as a known limitation during late-game strategy discussion

  • Iron Maiden has a hidden Easter egg: a special voice line for 'sneaky lock' (unintended ball lock through physics)

    medium confidence · Loser Kid describing the feature; George confirming he's heard about it multiple times

  • World Championship 2024 held close to 1,000 viewers without a host, three times previous peak

    high confidence · Escher citing tournament viewership improvement as positive sign for competitive pinball growth

  • The 'Iron Maiden transfer' (two-stage flipper feed) was first discovered on this game

    medium confidence · George explaining the technique and naming it based on where he first learned it

  • A knocker volume bug exists on Iron Maiden affecting audio levels during specific events

    high confidence · George experiencing the bug live during stream and attributing it to software issue seen on Lord of the Rings and Ripley's

  • Play With Madness multiball is exclusive to Premium Edition and includes directional arrow mechanics

    high confidence · George explaining Premium-only rules during gameplay demonstration

  • Two Minutes to Midnight mode scoring is based on performance in previously completed modes plus solenoid shard multipliers

Notable Quotes

  • “Premium Edition and Elite are definitely the way to go for this one. I had the Stern AC/DC (Pro Vault Edition) initially and kind of frustrated with it, and I am loving every second I'm spending with this Premium Edition right now.”

    George (Don't Panic Flip)@ 12:11 — Direct comparison statement showing strong preference for Premium tier, positioning Pro as notably inferior

  • “The one really cool thing that I got to see at the World Championship this year is that we were holding close to 1,000 viewers without a host, which is about three times more than ever before, which is really good to see because we need to port over to Twitch rather than Facebook. Facebook's not getting anywhere. Facebook sucks.”

    Escher@ 18:37 — Tournament viewership growth narrative and platform migration away from Facebook

  • “I call it the Iron Maiden transfer because this is the first game I discovered its power. Which is you have two balls cradled on the right, you flick one up and then you drop the upper flipper.”

    George (Don't Panic Flip)@ 36:34 — Naming and crediting origin of a technical gameplay discovery tied specifically to Iron Maiden

  • “This multiball is really hard, but once you get it, it's essentially free cyborg multiball, because you can play it for long enough that you hit everything that you need to.”

    George (Don't Panic Flip)@ 35:41 — Strategic meta insight about Play With Madness mode progression on Premium edition

  • “If you can have your last thing to cyborg be spinners... That would be really, really tough. I'll give you $50 for it.”

    George (Don't Panic Flip)@ 23:14 — Challenge bet indicating difficulty and rarity of specific game state

Entities

GeorgepersonEscherpersonZach SharpepersonJordan DeschainpersonLoser KidpersonKiscopersonRyan WengerpersonDon't Panic Fliporganization

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: World Championship 2024 achieved ~1,000 viewers without host, representing 3x improvement over previous peaks, driving platform migration conversation from Facebook to Twitch

    high · Escher: 'The one really cool thing that I got to see at the World Championship this year is that we were holding close to 1,000 viewers without a host, which is about three times more than ever before'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Iron Maiden Two Minutes to Midnight mode has high variance based on prior mode completion; scoring scales with solenoid shard collection creating layered endgame strategy

    high · George explaining: 'Two Minutes to Midnight is based on how well you did in your modes' and 'once you finish all 5 modes, each shot is depending on how well you did'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Iron Maiden Premium edition has documented mechanical issue with Sarcophagus orb not working reliably even on direct hits, potentially impacting late-game strategy requiring solenoid shards

    high · George: 'The only other problem with the Premium Edition is that the orb doesn't work every time on the Premium Edition. Like, even if you direct hit it'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Iron Maiden includes hidden Easter egg: special voice line for 'sneaky lock' (unintended ball lock through physics), indicating developer attention to edge cases and easter eggs

    medium · Loser Kid: 'There's like a special voice line for if you get a sneaky lock, which is without shooting anything, the ball happens to be locked in the Sarcophagus'; George acknowledging 'they threw code in there'

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Transcript

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0:00
Thank you very much. Thank you. Hi. Here, focus, me. Hi. Welcome to the stream. I'm George. This show is Don't Panic Flip. Dice, Bumper Nugget, Kisco, Neoria. We also have a special guest here this evening. We've got Escher. Hello. It's really going to struggle on autofocus right now. That might be changing in the very near future. And we'll just pull it back. Let the gin flow and make candle wax fly everywhere as a result of the errant sneezes. There's a story around that yesterday. I'm sure. Where I was cleaning up wax everywhere. I was... I don't even know where last night came from, honestly, or why that happened, but it seemed justified at the time. But today, we're back on Iron Maiden, and this time we actually have, we're using the stern direct capture card, so we should get all the colors in, hopefully no problems there, and add to all of that, Escher's here. So, I'm just, as I mentioned a few moments ago to Escher, I kind of want to see what he does on this game. No pressure. Yeah, no pressure. No pressure whatsoever. I don't know, I've never played this game before. I'm looking forward to it. First time, right? Yeah. Rules on it. You're just going to wing it kind of as you go, I'm guessing. Yeah.
7:09
Hey, we were just watching. Manu, we were just watching. Hello, good evening. If you are joining us from the wonderful MPT3K, whom I mentioned in the chat earlier, I had just described to someone recently as my personal hero. We are playing Iron Maiden tonight With a camera that I'm going to have to fix right now Because the auto-focus is just I mean, I'm making it hard for it Yeah, it's like right at that perfect middle spot Where it can't really decide If it wants to do the flame in the background You or me Oh, that's the only thing it wants Yeah, fair enough But, I'll figure out the camera Why don't you throw on a quick one-person game One person? Yeah, one person And I'm going to figure out the camera stuff here Alright Yeah, I love Popeye. It's my favorite Valley Williams game. It's not even close either. Like I said, there is, or I guess my dad says that they made, what, like 50 games? 52 games? Valley Williams? And only two of them suck. I forget what the other one is, but I know one of them is Popeye. Hold on one second. I have one change to make, and I'm so sorry, you're going to have to restart. That's okay. Can we set the attenuation on music to 60? Yeah. So we don't actually have to listen to Iron Maiden? I'm so sorry you don't serve it where is it is in adjustments features game and then go backwards oh no sorry not standard in the yeah it's in feature adjustments oh feature it's keep going keep going it's like there it is and then that's a 60 alright it said game I didn't realize that was feature yeah that's okay you just don't now you know ooh bumper nugget blew this game up at Colfax on Sunday. Man, that one at Colfax I don't think I've ever done well on. Oh, wow. I remember one time I was in the finals with Zach McCarthy and Jordan Deschain, and Jordan had a perfect 3x Hall of Be Thy Name collect for $680 million.

high confidence · George explaining mode logic during active gameplay

  • Jurassic Park's right upper flipper post vibrates loose from shaker motor, but Stern released a new locking mechanism fix

    medium confidence · George citing anecdote from his workplace at Lions arcade location

  • “There's three tilt dangers on it. And nobody noticed. I think it's because I never tilted. Very likely. I was just playing so awesome.”

    Escher / George@ 9:57 — Humorous acknowledgment of tight tilt settings on the machine

  • “That's the only other problem with the Premium Edition is that the orb doesn't work every time on the Premium Edition. Like, even if you direct hit it, or if maybe it's too sensitive and, like, the bumper set it off.”

    George (Don't Panic Flip)@ 13:46 — Identified mechanical reliability issue specific to Premium edition despite it being the recommended tier

  • “The Pro edition requires you to hit the left ramp [for mode start]. And on the Stern AC/DC (Pro Vault Edition) I was playing, that left ramp was really hard for me to hit.”

    Kisco (via chat)@ 13:06 — Community member providing validation of Pro edition difficulty criticism

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    World Championshipsevent
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    market_signal: Competitive pinball tournament viewership is growing substantially; World Championship 2024 achieved peak viewership of ~1,000 concurrent viewers without host, creating platform pressure toward Twitch adoption

    high · Escher discussing tournament growth as positive indicator for competitive pinball industry expansion

  • ?

    community_signal: George discovering and naming the 'Iron Maiden transfer' technique on Iron Maiden; claims to be first discoverer of this two-stage flipper feed mechanic on this game

    medium · George: 'I call it the Iron Maiden transfer because this is the first game I discovered its power'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Iron Maiden explicitly offers three tiers (Pro/Premium/LE) with significant feature distribution: Play With Madness multiball exclusive to Premium/LE, mode start mechanics differ between Pro and Premium, orb reliability issues vary by edition

    high · George and Kisco discussing that Premium requires left ramp for mode start while Pro has unreliable grab; Play With Madness described as 'Premium Edition only' during gameplay

  • ?

    product_concern: Shaker motors on recent Stern machines (Jurassic Park) are unreliable, causing physical parts to vibrate loose; aftermarket replacement locking mechanism required for stabilization

    medium · George citing workplace experience: 'At Lions, where I work, our Jurassic Park, the post... had vibrated so much from the shaker motor that it fell out... They fixed it by offering a new locking mechanism'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: George's opinion shifted from negative on Pro edition to very positive on Premium edition after direct comparison, indicating tier differentiation is substantive and impactful

    high · George: 'I had the Stern AC/DC (Pro Vault Edition) initially and kind of frustrated with it, and I am loving every second I'm spending with this Premium Edition right now. This is such a cool game.'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Software bug affecting knocker sound triggering causes volume spike on Iron Maiden, also reported on Lord of the Rings and Ripley's Believe It or Not from that era

    high · George experiencing loud volume spike during gameplay, troubleshooting as software bug: 'That has to be a software bug. Yeah. Well, I turned the volume down, but it did not.'

    • 9:15
    And Zach had a game of $450, and I caught Zach, but Jordan was so far gone. And then I played it at some our tournament and I just barely won with 45 million.
    9:27
    By the way, Dice said, can we check if there's a tilt bob as long as your settings are on I messed with the tilt bob. It was a little low after I put in the earplug. Okay. Before the earplug, it was fine. Good, good. Because we also took a picture of that. But what did you discover before I... Yeah, there was three tilt dangers. He had no clue. Like, yesterday it was the same way. There's three dangers on it. And nobody noticed. Nobody noticed.
    9:57
    I think it's because I never tilted. Very likely. I was just playing so awesome. It happens. Oh, nope, going the wrong way. I have been playing this new game with Jordan, actually. Or, sort of with Jordan. We're in the same guild. I don't know, you heard about the Lost World craze? What? The game Lost World. I am familiar. Sorry, not Lost World. I was combining New World and Lost Ark together. Lost Ark. I have lost so many hours of my life to that.
    10:33
    Okay, so what is Lost Ark? It's just an MMO. It's a Korean MMO that they ported over. Amazon bought, actually.
    10:43
    Amazon bought? Yeah. Amazon Games. and I've been having fun with it. Okay. Maybe a little too much fun.
    10:58
    Maybe, you know, Steam says 140 hours in the last two weeks kind of fun. Oh, wow. 140 hours. Yeah, like, haven't had much going on at all.
    11:13
    On that note, Stockwell Dave says, Can you get some guests who are decently talented at pinball? Yeah, I'm washed.
    11:21
    I took 14th at the World Championships. You should get that Zach McCarthy kid. I heard he's good at pinball. We absolutely need to get Zach over here, though.
    11:37
    What else do I need to do? I need to continue messing with this here. All right. What is... I'm like paying half attention to what's going on. I need to pay a little more.
    11:57
    There we go. 16-year-old one, yep. Premium and Ellie are definitely the way to go for this one. To fishbowl, to fishbowl. I have learned that. I learned that the hard way, because I had the pro initially and kind of got frustrated with it, And I am loving every second I'm spending with this LE right now. This is such a cool game. Are you sure you don't want to get down on this game? Huh? I'm still on ball one. Oh, yeah. Cool. I'm in. All right.
    12:31
    Need to bump it a little harder on that right orbit. The mummy stack, says Kisco. So, Kisco, is it an LE or a premium?
    12:45
    Because I remember you talking about the LE or the premium being the way to go. And I remember, like, conceptually, I was struggling with it because I knew the shots were all harder on the LE or the pro. So why not, I'm sorry, on the LE or the premium, so why not go with the pro and put up your scores? I don't think the shots are any different, really. The premium's easier. Sorry, the premium requires you to hit the left ramp. And on the pro I was playing, or at least when I was playing it, that left ramp was really hard for me to hit. Yeah. I guess I get that, but having a safe mode start is much more useful.
    13:23
    Sorry, safe mode start? Yeah. So, like, on the Pro, when you shoot the mode start, it doesn't grab the ball more than, like, half the time. Okay. And the ball comes backwards down to the orbit. Or, like, you don't... Rather than getting a beautiful feed that comes to the flipper every time.
    13:44
    Is he orb? Yeah, I agree. That's the only other problem with the premium is that the orb doesn't work every time on the premium. Like, even if you direct hit it, or if maybe it's too sensitive and, like, the pop bumper set it off. Which usually isn't a big deal, but when you are late game and you need the soul shards for getting to run of the hills, you have to save your orbs to level three. Because each level three gives you a soul shard. Oh, got it. And if you... Sorry, why do you need all of the Slum Shards? Because you need all ten Tomb Treasures. That's how you get to the end. Okay, got it. Ten Tomb Treasures. And there's eleven in the game. You don't get anything for the eleventh. I've tried.
    14:30
    But, uh... Makes it easier if you get all five modes. Okay. Because then... Sorry, level three gives you a Soul Shard every time? Yeah. Once you've played Two Minutes to Midnight. Okay. got it. Right, it's like, well, at that point, that's obviously what you're going for. Yeah, there's, well, yes and no. Two minutes to midnight is either really hard or really easy, depending on who you're asking. Some people really just, like, grind through modes, other people don't mess with modes at all. I'm more of a, be, like, have a really good mode stack, like what I'm trying to do right now, but I couldn't hit the drop target. Hey, any fix for Middle Ramp going, returning from the loop shot. I'm sorry. I'm not a, I don't have your peasant problems because I have a premium. Maybe be a little richer next time and you won't have to deal with it.
    15:28
    I think Kisco has the premium. Loser Kid, welcome to the stream. Also, some really good podcasts coming out of Loser Kid here recently. Heck yeah, man. Long time no see. We're hanging out at tpf-loserkid, absolutely. Loserkid, I feel like I... Didn't I play against you in Pinburg once? Did you ever... Oh, that got really loud. That did get really loud. Wow, it got really loud. It did. Everything got really loud. What just happened? That's funny. I've never... Oh, I didn't get the sneak.
    16:07
    Why did the sound just get loud? That is really loud. I guess my soul shard was a little too good. Right? It was so good that... Oh, that's weird. Did it bump up? No, it's the... If I go into the settings, do you have... Oh, no, I factory reset it. Yeah, don't worry about it. It's fine. Yeah. No, I think it's the volume. Yeah, I think that's what it is. It's the knocker bug that's been on... Sorry, the knocker bug? Well, I assume it's the same one that's on Lord of the Rings and Ripley's Believe It or Not, and that era, where if you get a knocker, all the volume gets messed up for a couple seconds. Also, Loser Kid never got to adventure to Pinburg, but wishes it so.
    16:55
    The secret volume shot. Yeah. I don't know why I need to figure out what that shot is. What am I doing? Where am I?
    17:05
    So it's just the effect volume. That's really odd. Yeah, that has to be a software bug. Yeah. Well, I turned the volume down, but it did not. That's funny, because I've never seen this before on any CERN. Usually, if it's a bug like this, I would have to imagine it's on a lot of the games.
    17:30
    How loud is it for stream? Like, are you guys getting absolutely pummeled by it? Yeah, how loud is it? Is it getting picked up by the two mics and it's difficult to hear us?
    17:45
    Because I'll bet you after the game starts or after a reset... Well, considering someone said they didn't notice... Okay. I like the... My value!
    17:58
    Escher, do you expect to see tournament pinball grow rapidly as some expect? I don't know, man. What a hard question. Can you ask something easier? Like what my favorite thing in school was? Like my favorite subject? What was your favorite subject in school?
    18:19
    Math until I had to take calculus and trigonometry and stuff. And then anything that wasn't like one of the main three. Like any elective I loved. Yeah, but for competitive pinball, yeah, I hope to see it grow. The one really cool thing that I got to saw at the World Championship this year is that we were holding close to 1,000 viewers without a host, which is about three times more than ever before, which is really good to see because we need to port over to Twitch rather than Facebook.
    18:54
    Facebook's not getting anywhere. Facebook sucks. Like, I... yeah. I can't believe you... Big Red Pimp subscribing to your one for one year. You're amazing. My half off you.
    19:16
    One out. Way pimp. I'm not asking that question. Retro Game Gal would like to know what your favorite color is.
    19:28
    Yeah, it's probably blue. That's what I always want. I know it's a really boring pick that everyone says, but yeah, I like blue. Okay. Blue it is.
    19:40
    And Loser Kid, thanks for the compliment on the podcast. We've been fortunate to get some great guests on, even if they all want to talk Rush. You get in the Gus mod for your pin. I don't know the Gus mod. Do you know what the Gus mod is?
    19:57
    No idea. Yeah. The only mods I've seen on this game are one time at work when I was working for Ryan Wenger. He asked for me to fix the LED so the eyes would glow above the target. And then I spent two and a half hours on that without it working. And if it's that mod, then that mod sucks. I'm sorry. But I'm biased and I think it was actually our game and not the mod. And it was me being new to it. And the other mod is I've played the game but it's all Queen music instead of... Oh, I love that. I loved it until the game crashed. And I was less excited. But that was a really long time ago.
    20:56
    A replica Sarcophagus mod that attaches right above the mummy capture ball. That sounds cool. You got to go for the sneaky lock call out on this game.
    21:11
    The sneaky lock call out? Yeah. I forget what he said. There's like a special voice line for if you get a sneaky lock, which is without shooting anything, the ball happens to be locked in the Sarcophagus. I've done it once ever which is I bricked the center ramp and it went bounce bounce and it air balled up and landed and there's code in there to capture that moment there's a voice line for it that's awesome so loser kid I have not but I've actually heard about it a few times so I haven't you know what I take it back maybe I have actually seen it or I can just imagine it perfectly but Gilbert Gottfried reading 50 days of grey that sounds awful and awesome. I don't know. George, rockin' that cannabis brand. Everyone knows about you again.
    22:03
    It's so funny because I really didn't know that and I really kind of want to get into the clothing line is the thing because I dig the Cookie Monster stuff.
    22:16
    Wait, how do you do the lights again? Featured. Broken. Secret lock. I also did it once. Such a fluke. Okay.
    22:23
    They're enough to the point where they threw code in. Alright, this is a first for me. Like, I've played this game a lot of times. Never have I ever have pots as my last thing for Cyborg. Okay. I haven't even been close to that.
    22:39
    I found that I can hit the ramps so easy on this that my last thing every time to Cyborg has been Orbit. Yeah, that's normal.
    22:50
    Like, Orbit or ramps. Those are the two hard ones. I don't think I've ever had spinners. That would be a cool challenge, actually. That would be, um, the only way that you could do it is by shooting center ramps on, like, a pro or something, where it would come backwards down over the switch. That would be a fun challenge. I'll put 50 bucks on that. If anyone can do it on recording, I'll give you $50. Wait a second, what was it again? If you can have your last thing to cyborg be spinners.
    23:20
    That would be really, really tough. Okay. That's also why you're... You're saying you'll throw $50 to someone? Yeah, I'll give you $50 for it.
    23:30
    I have another $50 on the line on tilt forums, actually, to get to run to the hills on the hardest settings, like outland post to out, or like rubbers off, plus like tournament install, no extras.
    23:48
    It's still hard to hear myself think. The volume's still up. I've nearly done that before. I got close, but you know, close isn't it.
    24:01
    Okay, I need to slow down. There's too much happening right now. There's a lot of balls on the table right now. Should've just let some of these go, to be honest. It's a Colorado thing, right? I mean, I'm 30 minutes from the border. The town's dinosaur right over the state line has four cannabis stores. I don't know that this is that... I actually got this in California. It just says cookies on the side, which you can't see because it's at the manual. Elego, welcome to the stream. Jack, welcome to the stream as well. There's weed everywhere. Yeah, there really is weed everywhere. It's so funny because I don't really see it anymore. It's funny, it became legal right, actually it became legal way later, but it became legal when I really stopped hearing it. It does! Retro Gingal! Exactly!
    24:52
    Oh, Retro Gingal. Maybe some reason Manu was saying he had to fix the... Oh, yeah, sorry. So I see, dude, the colors still don't work, and I'm thinking it has to do with that API change.
    25:04
    This cyborg is going really well. Yeah, it is. I'm about to... So, I have a really funny story about cyborg. Like Cyborg in general or Cyborg Multiball? Cyborg Multiball. I was, uh, the game had just come out, like sorta come out. Like I think it was at the beginning of the year, like February, March is when the game like got released. And uh, I already had mine at that point and it was at Expo, it was like the feature game basically. It was actually Deadpool, but it was also the, was it Deadpool? I don't know. Anyway, the game was relatively new, so not a lot of people knew it, but I was already really comfortable on it. And I had to play this guy, I've never seen him before, his name was like Raymond something. Anyway, I had a smooth like 2.1 billion lead on him. I had an extra ball to play on my first two balls. And then he proceeded to get 11 cyborg jackpots for 1.1 billion. Wow. And this was in a tournament or just for fun? Yeah, this was in Expo. So, like, he really put up a good fight.
    26:10
    Oh, wow, that sucks. That didn't turn out well. No! I could have gotten that one. And Elegoat, getting a tier one sub to Retro Game Gal. Retro Game Gal, enjoy that awesome gift from Elegoat. Elegoat, you're amazing. My hat's off to you. And you now have ad previewing. You're a part of the panic room. I have no knowledge, no looking to. I was not looking at the ball. I don't know if that's more or less impressive. I don't think I've ever gotten a 10x before.
    26:45
    This might be, this is definitely the best cyborg I've ever played. That sucks, so I got it back. I'm not giving up that easy. Oh, nice save, nice. There it is. Wow. That was a good cyborg. That was very good. Was that like a billion, more than a billion? I think so. Yeah, 1.1. Sweet. Yeah, I've never done that before. I've gotten, I think, like 7 or 8, but... Only 10x? I got an 11x. It was technically 11, right? World of a difference there. Yeah.
    27:34
    Or, as Gary say, a horse of a different color. Uh-oh. Oh, no. I got an extra. Okay, you're good. Lobster sticks to magnet. Welcome to the stream. Good to see you.
    27:49
    A measly billion. Durbin, how you doing? I feel like it's been a while. Top 1 of Day, call me when he gets 12.
    28:03
    I don't actually... what am I doing? I guess I'm close to, uh... what's the... 2 Minutes to Midnight. Even though the values will be like 30 points each.
    28:15
    So, how does that work with scoring on 2 Minutes to Midnight? Two Mates to Midnight is based on how well you did in your modes. So like, if you got, for example, my Halled Beelight name is going to be really good, because I had about a 180 one. I think it's actually about the exact same as the base of the Soul Shard, but it also factors in the Soul Shard plus a million. Okay. Were you trying to get the sweep? Yeah. If you hit the shot, it goes in. And I don't have my add-a-ball there, so...
    28:55
    All right. Really like... Yeah. One thing... What did he say? What did we... Oh, I see. If the game is moving because it's vibrating... Oh, yeah. So at Lions, where I work, our Jurassic Park, the post, you know how the protector on the right upper flipper, you know how there's a little post that sits there? It had vibrated so much from the shaker motor that it fell out. That actually happens all the time on Jurassic Park. They fixed it by offering a new locking mechanism for that. Oh, really? Yeah, so I had to install it on my Pro.
    29:56
    Cool. That's good to know. Maybe I'll tell Ryan that. It's getting louder, I think. So the other thing we want to do when we're done with this measly 1.6 million point game is also turn off the shaker motor, I think. Yeah.
    30:14
    I never got Shaker Motors. They just weren't my thing. Yeah, I'm not a fan. I can understand why on location it's kind of fun, but I feel like all they do is break the game. Like actually? Yeah.
    30:34
    Catching back up over here. Oscar says, out of curiosity, what stream mic do you use? Don't panic, Flip. I picked up a Razor Siren X and going to give it a whirl tomorrow. So I had the Razer Siren. I just ended up doing away with all Razer products. I used to be a Razer fanboy because I loved their... I don't know, man. Razer's just gone downhill for me. It's so bad. Their products break. I had a laptop, the microphone. I still have the Razer Kio camera with the light ring around it. I still have the keyboard. and all of their mice, but their mice constantly drop out. Usually when they're scrolling, they just stop working. I don't know. I've been using, I use the Adder Elite, I think is what it's called, because my mouse.
    31:23
    I liked it enough I bought three of them when I bought it. But I kind of regret it. But that's the way it goes. I feel like the way it goes. I'm on the last one. They keep dying on me.
    31:36
    That sucks. What are we going to do with this today? I pissed you the prototype Razor Desk. No, no, Lobster 6 and Magnet. I'm so sorry. I do not mean to make you feel bad about your purchase. I think the microphone was quality when it worked. I just ran into issues.
    31:52
    Outside of that, I have gone through a bunch of different microphones. I'm playing the meanest Aces High of all time. I am seeing a pretty decent Aces High right now.
    32:07
    This is a huge shot. Oh yeah! Bam! What was that for? That was... 85. It's actually a little disappointing. That was my third super and it was at 3x. I feel like that should be worth like a billion. Razor rules, George missed the Razor Mouse pad for Final Thin... I did, Dervin, I never did get the pad. Not for like lack of wanting to get... I think it's called the Goliath XL or something. I love the idea of, it's almost like the MCU of computer peripherals with Razer. I just can't wait to hear their products just stop functioning entirely, was my issue there. So I use blue microphones when I have microphones. What I'm using right now, though... That's number four. I'm sorry? My fourth Super Aston Hodge Wow Sorry keep going No my god I just realizing you at two billion now
    33:08
    All of a sudden, I want to get to, um... You have a Razor scooter and a Razor phone, though. I had a Razor scooter, I had a Ripstick, but it was like a scooter as well as a skateboard.
    33:21
    Aw, I was only 2x. Uh-oh. That might be the greatest aces high. It's definitely my greatest aces high, but I would not be surprised if that's the greatest aces I ever played. I've never even come close. Like, I got two supers probably once ever, and I got almost five. I got an HP Omen from Micro Center. I see you found it's awesome. Added 64 gigs of ran. Wow. Bumper Buggin had a Razer Pogo stick. It sucked. Razer phones were actually super cool. I never had one, but it was one of those, like, I wanted a Razer phone, but never made it happen. They looked so stupid that I was like, and they were really, really, really expensive. Yeah. So I never, I never got it. But I know one person who did, and he is not happy with this product.
    34:20
    But then again, I don't know if he was the demographic for it. Also, this multiball is awesome. I love this multiball, but it is so incredibly overpowered and unfair.
    34:32
    What multiball is this? This is Play With Madness. This multiball is awesome. The rules on it, right? I have no idea. I don't think I've ever played this. Okay, so it starts at one shot that's lit, right? Okay. Premium only. So there's two red arrows and every time you flip they move. So I'm flipping right so they move right. If I flip left they move left. If you get all the red arrows it adds a ball forever until every single shot is lit. Okay. So this is two staging. The other use of it. Well, I was a little short. So if you hit the green arrows, they unlight.
    35:16
    Oh. What am I doing? Okay. So I want to shoot the right ramp, so I need to move it two to the right.
    35:27
    Flip once, light it up, add a ball. So you can lock a ball for like 15 seconds in there. So then I flip one to the right, hit the shot I'm aiming at, but I flip again.
    35:39
    Oh, I unlocked the ball. This multiball is really hard, but once you get it, it's essentially free cyborg multiball, because you can play it for long enough that you hit everything that you need to. Hey, Durbin, second is second. I've got seconds locked on this machine right now. That you do.
    36:11
    All right. God, that sound is actually kind of awesome. So this is cool tech. Everyone, you should learn how to do this, because it looks a lot harder than it actually is. I'm going to try and do it, but I might mess it up. You flick to the upper flipper, and that's how you feed. You see what I did there? Yeah, you hit the other flipper twice, so that way when you flicked it... No, the two-stage. Oh, got it. The two-stage transfer. I call it the maiden transfer because this is the first game I discovered its power. Which is you have two balls cradled on the right, you flick one up and then you drop the upper flipper. I can do it again here if this stops. Is it weird that I thought the impressive part there was the fact that while or shortly after you did that? What the hell just happened? I don't know. I have never, I hit, so the game messed up or it wasn't the game. happened and it just, oh maybe it was a tier 3, I actually have no idea. Oh my god he just went in. Okay this is a huge power jackpot actually. Except for a 2x. Big shot. Premium Give me a moment. Okay. I'm almost on my second cyborg. Okay. Also, Kisco mentioning that that mode's on the pro now. Oh yeah, I forgot. They really should have put it on the pro. It's such a cool mode. If you log in with Insider Connected. Only? Oh, I get it, because there's probably achievements for it. I was wondering, because I was actually I played one on location because it had Insider Connected. I was really confused why it gave me the multiball. VonCraft, by the way, thank you so much for that raid. My hat's off to you. Welcome. I thought I had a third year. All good? We're happy you're here? Oh, okay. Let's see, I just discovered staging flippers on Godzilla. I'm such a noob. All good? It's a good game. Oh my god, Ace's High is almost 70 million base. I don't think I've ever gotten a base that high. You guys don't know this, this mode is 2 minutes to midnight. It says once you finish all 5 modes, each shot is depending on how well you did. So I had a terrible fear of the dark. How many more letters do I need? Oh, I'm not even close. So, for example, I had like 600 million, no, like a lot of points in Ace of Highs. aces high, so if I can shoot the right ramp, that was, it's 70 million. Wow. So, once you hit all five, it lights a super jackpot, but I don't want to hit it yet, because right now, it's 101 million, but, if I do another set, it multiplies, but it's basically 3x though, because you're doing all the shots again, right? Oh, I'm dead. Damn. So, you go through them all again, right? So it's 100 million, and then you get 100 million in shots again, and it's 2x. So it's basically, it goes from 100 million to 300 million. Okay. And then you do it, and then that's how you also get the level 2 card. So. All right. Good luck, sir.
    39:38
    Cool, cool, cool. Uh, yeah. You're on the comp, sir. Look at me hugging. Z-Mac made you cry. Yeah, no, it was awesome. I like, I like actually couldn't watch the finals. I was so nervous for him. I was happy with all four people in that final four, though. Like, if any of them won, I would have been happy with it kind of thing, right? Because, you know, I'm not free from bias. There's some people I would prefer to win. Like, you know, the first, like Z-Mac, right? I wanted Z-Mac to win so bad because he took second at Expo in a heartbreaking way, and he had played so good the entire tournament that it would be hard to see him lose on the final game. the guy that jumped around made me crazy you mean Walt Walt Wood the stream legends of Colorado I it's so funny I'm so glad Walt was on that stream and I'm so glad he got to play Doctor Who because that is the story I always tell of Walt like of like when I first like realized it's like Dan, this guy is actually for real. He is really doing that with every flip. And that was because I played him on Doctor Who at a local tournament. And I had, I don't know, like $2 billion on Doctor Who. Something pretty solid. And he started doing loops, but every time he would go, he would flip, and then he would walk away. He would wipe his hands, and he would come back, and he would flip, and then he would, okay. He did that like 60 times. It's like, wow, this guy, he's not doing it for a show. He actually plays like this. And then seeing him do that live for like 800 viewers in the World Championship, Pop 8, it was awesome. It was definitely fun. And then all the chat hyphened him up too. It was wonderful. You should hold your flipper up here. The Chants begin! And the bump is what you should do too. That was perfect. You're doing the perfect tournament stack. I don't know if you mean to or not. Obviously. Super obviously. You have 10 seconds. You should hit both ramps and then the center ramp. Okay. You have six seconds now. Okay, hit the center. Nice. Now hit the center again for your soul card.
    41:56
    Alright, beautiful. Now you're at 200 million. Would you believe that? I totally believe that. Somebody just did something. Game Club Central, thanks for the raid. Appreciate it.
    42:11
    Raid party of two. Is my table ready? Yes, it is. Alright, so I need that... Super. Super. Two stage? Two stage! Aw, you've had the upper flipper, but you didn't flip it. Accidentally. You gotta concentrate on eight things at the same time, George. I'm getting there! I'm getting there! Alright, now here, try and hit the super, like, not even feeding, just hit it. Just hit it? Yeah. That was really close. Nice nudge. How's it going? I don't know how to say your name. GR bond? Gore bond? Something? All right, here we go.
    42:45
    A little early. Yeah. It's funny. I want to nudge that. I usually flick that. But it works. Okay. Whoops.
    42:59
    You're getting creative. Oh, that nearly gave it to you. Nice nudge once again. Okay, we're back here.
    43:09
    Either go too much or too little. or perfect that works too okay whoopin okay one shot one opportunity oh you got another one more second oh not quite I tried yeah sweet though well I'll kick that I was rooting for Z-Mac big time yeah I was especially rooting for Z-Mac cause uh Yeah, of course, he was staying with us, and he had played, like, perfectly in a couple rounds before. I was just wondering if he was going to run out of energy.
    43:53
    All right, we're cool. We're cool. We're a cool game. There we go. We're fine. Thank you. Stop. Yeah, for commentating on pinball tournaments, I really like doing it. The only problem is, though, I'm not a great first beat. Meaning, I can get off topic sometimes. I know the rules too well at points. Where it's like, people don't need to hear, like, literally everything about every game. And you gotta, you know, no to one, to let loose. So, like, my dad is a great first beat because he, like, can hand off to people. He stays on topic. He interacts with chat sometimes. And, you know, like, he does that pretty well. So, like, me and him is awesome. But uh, but I'm not good when I'm also not good when they're showing very very loud or like You know, it's too much against the rules kind of thing, right?
    44:45
    Holy shit Like I need I need to be handed off to I can't I'm not good at like barging in myself All right, here you go you got to the multi ball
    45:00
    So you should always throw it's a center shot as your first red arrow this is a controlled multi ball So, when you have ball favor, just ignore everything and just focus on shooting the red arrow. It's really hard. Flip more, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. There you go. You get a lot of grace period on the center shot for that. So you want to flip. You always start with the center shot because it's the easiest. So flip. One more on the right and now hit the center. Okay, now you only need one arrow and a ball is being held. Okay, now you just release that ball. Because if you hit the green arrows... Okay, so if you hit the orb, it freezes them. When they're not flashing, they're frozen. Which you kind of got them frozen in the worst possible... So just wait. Just don't wait. Okay, I'm waiting. Because then you... Okay, now hit the center. Hit the center. Yeah.
    45:48
    All right, and now flip all the way around so then it's on the left ramp. Okay, now go flick and then shoot the left spinner. The left spinner. Flick up, yeah. Don't care about the other ball. Just hit. Oh, okay. You took too long.
    46:05
    Oh. All right. This is a gifted sub to Lobster60 or Jay-Z Bell. Jay-Z Bell? Jay-Z Bell. Thank you. And a Prime sub. You subscribed to Don't Pack It. So, yeah. I mean, you're paying your... Oh, no. You did right. Beautiful. Okay. I doubted you. I was... I'm getting there. So hit the center now. Three center shot. Nice. Okay.
    46:36
    Play pinball. Play pinball, George. So you can shoot right ramp here if you want. It's about capitalizing on the shots that you are allowed to take, if that makes sense.
    46:53
    Okay, so your center is available again. There you go. Super obvious. Yep. Like a pro. Okay, so now... Okay, nice. So you want to... Flick once to... Oh.
    47:10
    Darn it! No, wrong side. That's okay. Turn it all up here again. So what's... Get rid of this... Oh, I didn't make it.
    47:22
    This game will literally beat the shit out of you to learn how to two-stage. Like, it is frustrating how hard this game is if you can't. I would say, you're going to go there. Okay, so. I got it. Yeah. Or you want to go two over. Nope. That's okay. For your first time, you did all right. My dad has owned this game for, you know, three years, four years or whatever. He still can't play this mode at all. Like, his old man brain can't do it. You're in the middle. You're like in between me and him, right? Because my dad's like what, 55? Something like that? Your time? Now your value! I was talking to you about your dad and I was totally at like... We're here for points, George. Not talking. Go play pinball, faster. No! You have your add a ball on your orb as well? Yeah, I'm the orb. Okay. It is a little... It's a little scary to leave this one as like, you know, like, oh, I'll just shoot it when the second ball drains kind of thing, you know? Yep.
    48:38
    Add a pinbird on the queen game. Me and Miles, the kid from Canada, We played this for like 200 million split flipper. Oh really? Yeah. Why did I let that go? Yeah, there's no grace period on these. No. Okay, so there's that guy, still got that, we've got that, we probably want to be in a multi ball before we try for that advanced orb. Yeah, your power jackpot's good points right now on the orb. It's like 36 million. That right there? Yeah. Should I hit it? If you hit on the left, you drain, though. So don't do it like that. No, you can. Just if you hit it in between the left post and the orb, it kills you. Got it. So hit it on the right. On the right side, yeah.
    49:30
    You know what? Don't think about it. Yeah, yeah. Hit the orb. Well, don't just hit the orb. There you go. Oh, 32 million.
    49:40
    All right. So you have a choice now. You need ten orbits, so we should try and do... Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. You just want to stack Mummy in with your next mode.
    49:51
    Sorry, stack Mummy with what? Your next mode. Okay. Which is Sure of the Dark, and those modes stack very well together. Okay, so hit that and that at the same time.
    50:02
    Uh-oh. Nice. So I would press your Mummy a little more. Holy. That's the only problem with shooting in the loop. That's why most of the time when you see me play this game, I don't actually flip the upper right. I know, but... But it's more fun. I know. It's so fun! All right. Maybe one more.
    50:25
    You think I'll ever top the stream when I was wearing a beanie, sunglasses, and a headlamp? I don't think so. I was peaked. Not only that, but I also got, like, a... Oh! I got a really good Avengers run. So, yeah, ignore the mode. Get to Mummy. Okay. Mummy, Mummy, Mummy. Don't think about chatty, you're really close to a huge game here. Darn it! That's fine, you need orbits anyways.
    50:55
    Okay, two more. Darn it! Oh no. Nice. Okay. Not quite as nice. Alright, still two. We got it. Okay, one more. Maybe a little better than that one. Oh my god, did you get a cookie? No! Oh, you have extra? Yeah. Okay, cyborg's ready then. Okay. It's nice to give you a breakdown of what needs to be done as it's happening. I completely agree. Alright, so you want to hit the center shot. The giant red arrow. This one right here? Yeah, the one that is lit for everything. Okay. Will you do some rule streams on various games to dispense your infinite wisdom? I try to. I haven't streamed in a month or two. Maybe eight. I don't know. I was a lot of pin clash. I don't know. I think it's a good one. I think Stream Carl will do another pin clash eventually. Oh my god, He's got it. Pinclash is amazing.
    52:06
    Yeah, it's a great idea. I just think there needs to be more restrictions on the streaming side of things. More, oh, like visualized? Yeah, like higher quality, right? See, Escher before moving out would disagree with you, but Escher after moving out agrees with you.
    52:25
    And why is that? Because I don't think people loved my 628p streams that much. I don't think I had my pin stadiums yet or any of that. Do I need right ramp? Either ramp. Oh my goodness, that's like the second time this happened. I've seen it. You can hit either ramp? Yeah, it's any ramp. I like the left ramp more because the value is based on how many switches you hit. Yeah, but I feel like I can hit the left ramp better. That's what I'm saying. You said right ramp better, right? You're going to backhand the orb. Hit the orb here.
    53:03
    I'll go a little off. Nice. Alright. You got ball save. Flail. Flail to your orb. You want to flail with purpose. You haven't hit anything. There you go.
    53:20
    Alright. We're cool. This is the ultimate. Before you go, this is what you should do. Okay. Which is you flick the right flipper pretty hard, hard enough that it feeds the upper flipper. You two-stage and then shoot the left orbit with the upper flipper. Got it. That's just the upper flipper. Yes, but you have to feed it with the bottom flipper. Okay.
    53:44
    But I have to two-stage while not losing the bottom one. You flick. Yeah. And then as you flick, you also two-stage.
    53:53
    That also works. Now you two-stage the upper left and then you shoot the spinner. Okay. So you did it the boring way, but it works. The boring way works.
    54:06
    Nice. And flail! Flailing! Flail with purpose, you! Yeah, you're doing that. Okay, now you cradle up. So every outline you get on Cyborg for some reason adds five seconds to ball save, which is really funny that it works that way. I'm not sure why you let go of those two, but that's okay. Well, because the shoot again was... Yeah, it was short. You flail until things get scary. All right, here we go. Okay, so it's just the ramp. Either ramp. Okay. You know, I don't blame you for not knowing that you could hit those ramps, because it's actually the right torch on the left ramp. If you look, the left torch flashes. All right, one second. Bump over? Not quite.
    55:03
    Darn it. Yeah, people don't know, on the premium, the lights for if a shot's lit are the, what is it, the spyboard light? Oh, all right, we're in mummy now.
    55:16
    This one's going to be worth a lot. Uh, trash-relate, you get a little 3x going perhaps? Darn it, find that shot! Nope. At least you adjusted correctly.
    55:36
    Wow, you got it back. Nice. So now you can lock the ball in the... It's really funny to think about it, that you can actually flip the beginning of the flipper or the end of the flipper. Right. It's really odd that you can do that. It doesn't make sense.
    56:00
    Okay, so we got one letter towards mummy. We're progressing somewhere there. All right, so you, yeah. Sailing, flailing. Oh, my God. Ice, you do. Please tell me that's what about Bob is what you just linked us. I can't see it right now, but. You can hover it. Yeah.
    56:18
    Official audio. I'm sailing. Okay, no. What we need is... I'm sailing! Bill Murray is attached to the front of the sailboat.
    56:30
    Literally strapped to it. Okay, so we need aces high. Yeah, just go for your mode here. Go for modes. You can do. Hey, I found that shot. Finally. That's good.
    56:41
    I don't think you found it. I think you were doing the exact same thing, but your difference was you were shooting it from a cradle versus rolling.
    56:51
    That right around from a cradle is way easier. Right. On the fly, there's so many. This is not good.
    57:00
    If you're looking to pick up a few hundred million really quick, you go for your loops here and then drop down, start your 3X, and then start your loops. Okay. That would be like 30 million a shot. Sorry, loops. like the loop jackpot like the side oh got it okay so hit a ramp start your 3x and then just do a loop jackpot or were you saying something else yeah so when it like diverts the ball got it you like it comes to the spinner you bump it on the left and then you shoot like a ramp and then you shoot spinner and you get going got it don't waste too much of your 3x time is what you're saying points per minute I think Escher has a slight edge on I think we've played for about the same amount of time this game so you bump you didn't bump but that's okay. So now you want to activate your 3x and then, oh yeah, flip, yeah.
    57:52
    Okay, all right, here we go. You blundered it. Oh, here we go. You didn't raise the flipper. I didn't.
    58:02
    You got plenty of time though. I don't know what that was. All right, here we go. You blundered! Was I all on the line, George? What was that about pressure earlier? The fact that I'm still playing right now, I feel, is pretty huge. Uh, yeah, that's why I love this game so much, Soft World Egg, is that the points per minute is insane. Like, anything can be worth billions in this game if you do it right. I got Ian. Oh my goodness. Alright, I'll pull Luke. Big shot. Aww. Nice. Or not nice. That was a good... You did the
    58:44
    right thing. Okay. It's just it had too much backspin and it just kind of went off. It was a good game though. That wasn't... That's you. What's the difference in the preem that I'm looking for? Um... Hi Retro Guy. And yes, what about Bob the Big Great Movie? I think Yeah. Alright, let's see. I got two. That's insane. 450 million. So, alright, three. 39 mils. Four. Five. That's insane as well. Six. Seven. That's cool. Question mark, man. That's, uh, Shatz's... Oh, I only got seven. I guess, uh, yeah. That's, That's when you shat this and it hits the target. I think I only hit one real one that game. Okay. Iron Fox, thank you. I mean, yeah, star of the show over here. How do you feel about Safecracker in tournaments? I love Safecracker in tournaments. When all four players sit there, they plunge their ball, and then they walk away. And then the next person steps up. I say that like I love it, but I think it's really funny. And it's a lot. It's like a game of chicken. right? Who will go first kind of thing, right? Because no one wants to go first. But when you get far, far into that game, you start losing time. Okay. Like, you can't do it forever. I have never played the game. Okay, so how it works is the game isn't like any other game. No, no, you keep going. I'm just making it. Yeah, so instead of like balls, you have time. You start with 45 minutes, which is 45 seconds-ish. Okay. And as you do things, you lose time. But, when you shoot drop targets and pop bumpers and stuff like that, you get some time back. Okay. But when you plunge, it goes into the pops where there's three sets of drop targets. So you hit all the drop targets, and then you let the ball go, you break even.
    60:42
    But, no one wants to go first, perhaps, right? Like, because, you know, the same reason anyone chooses to go fourth in a tournament, right?
    60:52
    What was that? Oh, pin spot! Thank you so much for that follow. So that's what heroes do. Continue. Nice.
    61:00
    Yeah, so it's like a game of chicken, right? Because you want to be the last player to step up, right? But then eventually you start losing time. And now you're down to 35 minutes. Now you're down to 30 minutes. And all of a sudden you're like, man, I'm ready to play pinball. And then eventually you go, you play your game. And how they got, they put in Indisc three years ago, four years ago. Okay. And it was a wonderful tournament game with the ROM. What was really interesting about the ROM, though, is when you go up to the board game. I don't know, have you ever played Safe Cracker? I haven't. You would love it. I've always wanted to, but there's always a line six people or ten people deep at CPF, and they had two of them there, and they were booked. Yeah. Keep going, I can hear you. When you get, once you get enough drop targets down, it lights the board game. you lock a ball, you go to the board game and then you roll the dice you get one or six and then there's a board game on the back glass and you move that many spots you get different things for different ones don't you also get fed a coin at some point? if you beat the board game, if you get all the way to the end without, so there's a bunch of red things there's a dog, which is you can either if you get a bone from a gift then it doesn't do anything, like you give the dog the bone and it's okay If you don't, you have to run away from the dog. He kicks the ball out. You have 10 seconds to hit any shot that locks the ball. You lock the ball, you're fine.
    62:28
    But also, while you're getting chased by the dog, your guy is just doing circles around. So if you're really confident that you can hit the center shot, you're getting chased by the dog. You wait until you're right before, and then you hit the scoop, and then now you've skipped the entire board. And now you're right at the end. When you get to the end, you get a coin. right there's a little dispenser and the idea is you get these safecracker tokens it dispenses and it rolls down the glass and you gotta catch it with what your hands oh my god it rolls down the glass it physically rolls down the glass it shoots the token out oh my I have to get a safecracker which is a bummer how is the game though the game's awesome it's really boring but no no no the actual how is the actual gameplay like is the game is the layout fun is it a fun game to play yeah no I it's a game is it better than Total Nuclear Air yeah it's not even close Like, that's, you put in the ball on the floor for me, man. It's like, yeah, the gameplay is draining. It is, in more ways than one. It's a little boring because there's only, like, a couple shots on it, which is there's a left ramp, and then the scoop, and then there's, like, the spinny thing. But it's a great casual game. Okay. Especially because.
    63:39
    And that's the one that has the, like, it actually has a safe that you have to, like, open up, right? It comes with doors where I think they open out to the side. Oh, yeah, that's, yeah. So the other thing with the game is that they have super mini flippers, like two-inch flippers. Okay, got it. Which is a funny gimmick. The game is tiny. Like, it is really small. Like, it's not a standard-sized pinball machine? I don't think it's smaller. Oh, wow. Okay.
    64:03
    No, George, not your hands. You have to catch the token between your thighs. You do. I was thinking, like, it rolls down and you have to, like, flip it and get it into something in the game. No, no, no. It's, like, basically, it's just, like, right there. Okay. And it just rolls, and then you've got to catch it. So unfortunately, the tokens are incredibly rare. I don't know if they're expensive. You can't buy them from Williams, of course, anymore. Sure, because they're just not. I think I have maybe 20, like I've just collected. Because Dean Grover, of course, he designed that game, or at least the rules for it. So he has tokens that he gave me, a bunch of the really cool rare ones. So I have a full set. But the problem with it is that, like, the fake tokens, they got to be perfect or they won't work. Wait a second. Is this the same guy who's also the monster at the end of the book?
    64:53
    What do you mean? You've completely lost me. Tell me somebody got that out there, please. It's a Sesame Street reference. Yeah. Definitely. Cool. Thank you, Pinball Geek. Thank you, Pinball. Somebody out there. He's not old enough for that one. I'm sorry thank you Captain Spam okay cool there we go I'm a big safe tracker fan again the game isn't I wouldn't want to own one but man it is a really cool concept okay here's the other thing the tokens do something there's a coin slot for them right and then when you put the token you get a super game okay it's a different type of game yeah it's just like an infinite multi ball you know like you get 90 seconds and you just flail around it's pretty boring to be honest but if you don't if there's no tokens in the and you get a replay, plus the next game you start is a super name. Okay. Got it. That's cool.
    65:50
    I got it, but I don't understand why you... Well, you just did Grover, and immediately in my head, I've read that book to Zoe I don't know how many times.
    65:59
    It the fun It where the character talks to the audience or the person reading the book Oh And Grover is trying to stop you from turning to the next page Oh that funny And you just, you have to do it in his voice the entire time, which is great. No, no, don't turn to the next page! Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta really get into it with your kid, and your kid is over there, especially at like two or three, and like, you're trying to stop them from turning the page, and they are like, give me the book! can try it's awesome it's a that sounds great cool moment book reading on stream yes pinsomniac we haven't done a kid's book reading in in a while so at some point get started on you gotta do the figure out the volume situation again is it still i'm gonna do the fix for everything the turn it off and on again you would never believe how many times that resolves issues Yeah Ice Ski-Doo Dropping What about I'm sailing Thank you Ice Ski-Doo You rock Also Queen Dark Lady Love that book as a kid Which is funny Because I don't think I ever read it as a kid I only found it And read it to my kid Troubleshooting 101 Have you tried restarting it? Exactly Yes How many times? It's really funny How often it works Wait I'm gonna open this. I think you guys will be able to hear it. The stream might crash, just FYI.
    67:37
    It's a minute and 38 seconds, and we've got an ad. This is... I'm failing! I'm failing! This needs to become a redemption, for sure.
    67:53
    Oh my god. Comedic gold. Bill Murray is fantastic. At one point. I don't know. Are you going to replace everything with cake again? No. What I'd like to do is either Queen, and I'm not going to do, I think, any of this. This is a temp loaner from Man Adams out here, and he's amazing, and help me fix the issue in the back.
    68:25
    And kind of lost my train of thought there. It wasn't important. But anyways, I don't think I'm going to change it. I don't have it long enough, unless I can find some way to buy it, because I think that... I think Man Adams is still trying to get rid of this.
    68:41
    That's weird. Yes, Von Kraft, that was What About Bob. Oh, I forgot about that. Wow. Good catch though. I'm really happy you didn't go through the glass. Yeah, that would have been a bummer. It's actually remarkable how strong this glass is. Yeah. This is what I'm going to do. I'm just going to reset the settings and I'm just going to turn the volume really far down. Okay. What happened? Because I think it's like compensating for the other volumes being down. Like I turned the speech to 60 as well and it was still doing it. So I think it's just like the audio doesn't know what to do. Okay.
    69:20
    Maybe I'll tell Stern about it. The pin is already cake. It's just function too. It's the big secret. You can have your cake and you can eat it. But we need to sub over it with I'm flailing.
    69:37
    Flail with purpose. I think that's going to be my, I'm going to clip that. That's what my dad says, right? Because like when we're watching streams, right? it's like, oh, we've never seen this person before, right? And it's like, oh, this guy's like a solid D-plus player. I was like, oh, this guy, I mean, like, he flails with purpose, right? He's not controlling the ball. But at least he's putting an attempt in, right?
    69:59
    So that's one of my dad's things. Okay, I like that. Uh, Pinstomniac. I don't know for certain. I think he had it up on Craigslist at 16-5 at one point. I don't know if by the end of this, that's what he's going to want for it.
    70:24
    I think, if anything, that's a little on the low side. I mean, I don't even, I have no idea what games go for these days, but. Did you see Squid Games? I did. Can hold two people. uh Pinsomniac I flailed all over Attack for Bars tonight at Pindolf League there is a part of me that really really would like to have I don't know if three months is enough time but Medieval Madness I would like to have that game it's so pretty it's pretty it's fun there's a few things to do on it man it earns so well at live classic turnball it earns I'm assuming it earns everywhere really well. It doesn't, it doesn't have to be, that's one of those ones that's so fun despite the theme. Like, it's just, you see the, you see the castle crash and people get interested. I want to make that happen. It's got a coverage on it, like, it's just well done. And, for people that are getting into pinball, the rule set's very simple, yet there's still a lot to it. Right? You can just shoot the castle. Right? Yes. But, getting a lot of castles doesn't happen by just doing everything... I hate when this happens.
    71:44
    Oh, when it goes the other direction? Yeah, well, it gets stuck. I can see it. It's going.
    71:55
    Do you know how to picture that on ours? Oh, what? Do you know the death save protectors? Have you ever been to out in Colpax? Nope. So, on almost all the games, Dino puts death save protectors on? which are just like little rubber nubs. Is that what you can't test save? Yeah, the ball just doesn't make it. Okay.
    72:16
    But he puts one up there, and then he files it down a little bit, and then so it just doesn't get stuck on the play field. Got it. Okay. Because that is a problem on most maintenance. Got it. Doing the writing and voice work. Yeah. That and what's the other one that... Whitewater.
    72:34
    Do you know what famous actress is on that game? Whitewater or... No, sorry, Medieval Mathis. No, I don't know. I'm not an active person, man. Tina Fey. I have no idea who that is. From 30 Rock? Zero clue, man. Okay, okay.
    72:53
    Name the most famous thing that they were in. 30 Rock. Okay, I've never even heard of this before. I mean, she was on Saturday Night Live for a while.
    73:05
    But it was like, it wasn't the good Saturday Night Live. Oh, okay. Like, it wasn't Chris Farley and David Spade and Adam Sandler, and it wasn't Dan Aykroyd and Steve Martin, which I think is pretty much it. Like, everything else from Saturday Night Live has been kind of... Yeah, it's been going downhill, I think. Yeah. I mean, I really like... I appreciate the concept of it. It is hard to be funny consistently. Oh!
    73:31
    Excuse me. Wait a second. I've got to go back up. There was a problem there. Wait. I'm going back up. Floppy's Ballad Castle. Uh, yeah, never death saved around that, nope. Mean Girls Teacher. I got close ones. Tell them the Mean Girls Teacher. Oh, did you see Mean Girls? Nope. Okay. See, but I'm not a TV person, like, regularly. Like, even if it was my generation, I still probably wouldn't know. Okay. Like, I'm just not my thing.
    74:01
    She is a literal pinball voice actress. Yes, she is. Put that on the, uh, what's it called? On the resume?
    74:13
    Yes, well, no, she looks back on it as the low point of her career. Yeah, I mean, I don't blame her. D&D nerd question for you, George. What class would Nicolas Cage's character be? I mean, okay, excellent question, Bumper Nugget. What class couldn't Nick Cage be? I could see Nick Cage as a ranger. I could see Nick Cage as a barbarian. Can you imagine him just all bulked out with the muscles? I could see Nick Cage also as a mage or a sorcerer, either one, a learned wizard or a sorcerer who just has powers. Nice nudge there. I didn't do that. That was the floatiness of your game. That saved me. Okay.
    74:56
    6.95 degrees. We took a picture. Hey, can someone in the chat please back me up to say that 6.95 is floaty. Someone, anyone. Is my dad watching? He would back me up.
    75:16
    Paige could totally be a sorcerer. Absolutely a sorcerer. Isn't that the idea of an actor is that you can fit into every role? Isn't that like... Well, that's the definition of a good actor. There's a lot of actors who make their living playing the same role over and over and over again. Like Anthony Hopkins is not really a great actor because he never plays more than one role.
    75:41
    Man, I am struggling to get these drop targets down. One drop to go. How dare you infer Nick Cage in the... Oh my, I didn't say that! Clickonic! I think Nick Cage is an amazing actor! I don't... I think he's underrated. Oh wait, that was you. No. Clickonic Jordan was giving you crap, I think. No, I don't... I do not think he is a good actor. No, no, no. You can think that he doesn't pick good movies, but he can act. I don't know. Some of the movies that I've seen him act in, they doesn't...
    76:14
    He needs a better agent who tells him things he never said no. Hey, we need somebody to be the shark in Jaws. Cool, I'm in. So do you see why I just did it there? I did, yeah, that was perfect. I understand the mechanics of what you did. I just, I'm not that good of a stage flipper without lots of practice to get there. Like, that's going to, that's going to take a lot for me. Because you have to flip up into a stage. Yeah, it's hard. But once you do it once, you're set. Once you get it. That's the guy who doesn't know the Jina things. Yeah, right. I'm good at one thing, man, but I'm really good at it. You are really freaking good at it.
    77:03
    Esther hasn't seen Mean Girls. The opinion means nothing. I've heard of it. I've heard of that one before.
    77:12
    It's not a great movie, but it is definitely very quotable. Yeah, so the movies that I have seen... You've been to the barn, right? So you've seen those movie posters. Obviously, Princess Bride, The Fifth Element. Loved The Fifth Element when I was a kid. You don't love it anymore? No, I still do. I haven't watched it since I was a kid, though. Wait. I don't know how it's held up, but I'm just going to, in my mind, I'm going to say it held up awesome. It has. There's a moment where one of the bad guys gets hit in the face, and you can tell he's wearing a rubber mask. That is the only moment. Everything else is gold. even Gary Oldman's mouth bubble that he has at one point where he comes back once he realizes that he doesn't have the stones. Oh, yeah. And he comes back and he's like, Sir, you can't be on the ship. There's a bomb on you. And he shoots everybody and he says, I'm not. And it's this weird I know that somehow made it into the cut. it's like it's that moment when you have a bubble in your throat it's just very weird and even with that I still think it was a great movie I don't remember that much of it I remember the plot I remember the opera scene because that was a really good scene George I'll have to share weird Elko team with you sometime I am so in. And, I mean, so, have you spent much time at all with the P3 platform?
    78:51
    Me? Yes. No. Okay. And I know you really don't care about themes in general. No. Are you a Weird Al fan?
    79:00
    I want to say fan. I don't know enough about him. Like, the two things that I've heard from him, I have enjoyed listening to, but I've never, like, seeked out his music before. Got it. So I've heard two things. The only one I remember is... I don't remember what it's called. But it was like... It had good flow. I liked listening to it. It was like a half comedy, half nice music kind of mix. I think the majority of his stuff is comedy. That's what I figured. Those are the things I heard were that. Which is cool. It's a cool genre.
    79:39
    So... And also everything I've seen about him as a person, he seems like a really nice guy. Like a good person.
    79:46
    So, maybe I'll give it a listen. I don't know what was going on there. That was very weird. There we go. Okay, I can guarantee you next fall will be better.
    80:00
    I like that. The one I remember is, um, I forgot. Yep. I think, I'm like trying to, I'm working here, man. I'm like trying real hard to wow yes I'll take that uh weird Al's in the same tier as Tom Hanks or Mr. Rogers oh wow I didn't know Mr. Rogers that's on here doing reaction to classic videos if it's like YouTube like I am I'm not a zoomer but man I sure act like one what's a zoomer? it's like the next one I'm like Gen Z okay I don't think that's what they're actually called but that's what they're referred to as online.
    80:44
    Zoomer. That's like... It's a boomer, but a Gen Z boomer? Yeah, they're like kids. Like, you know, nine-year-olds-ish era, right? Okay. So, kind of like the next generation down from mine, but it's not quite there yet. It's just the internet needed to call these kids something because they don't like Fortnite because they're not like us exactly in every way, right? So, you know, we're humans, right? We don't like people that aren't exactly like us. Wait, I don't like Fortnite, though. Exactly. You don't have to, but it's just like, that was what they grew up on, and we're like, oh, that's so sad. Look at these funny people, you know?
    81:25
    So then we gave them a stupid little name. It's a Zoomer. Okay. Someone in the chat, back me up here.
    81:37
    Anyone want to back up here? Oh, Terry Red says, my son is 19 and I call him a zoomer. Yeah, that's, you know, it's more of, it's not even like a generation thing. It's more of like a cultural thing.
    81:51
    Like, I guess I'm kind of a zoomer, but I'm just like, I'm just barely off from being like a true one, I guess. If any game is going to get to run to the hills, it's going to be this one. I can tell you that right now. I'm four for four, which doesn't happen much. What does that mean for for board? Uh, soul shards. Oh, got it. Oh, I just backhanded the right round. I'll go for my double jackpots. The zoomer is just a different way of saying Gen B. Got it. Yeah, but they're not like me, okay? Don't associate me with the zoomers, please. Like, okay, so the zoomer is an insult. Essentially. It's kind of like calling someone a millennial. Yeah, exactly. It's the exact same thing. Okay. Where, like, millennials will take pride in being a millennial, But at the same time, they get shit on for being a millennial kind of thing, you know? I am technically a millennial. Really? Yes. 82?
    82:44
    Yep. Not quite. One shot? Oh, I missed. Oh, a cyborg shot. That worked, okay. I didn't write it down in my cyborg.
    82:55
    So, if it did originate, wait, if it did originate, the kids don't know it. How dare they not know about badgers and sweet horse lemonade? Higher peanut, I got nothing. yeah it was like because like everyone had a online at least everyone had the game that they grew up with right so like for me Minecraft was like the perfect timing for me right I had just gotten into video games like I had a computer that I was allowed to play somewhat unsupervised you know I got my like two and a half hours of screen time a day and you know all my friends were playing this new stupid block game with zombies and skeletons and stuff and I'm like oh I want to play this so then you know I did what anyone would do and I played that stupid block game for the next eight years of my life essentially and then now I'm bored of this stupid block game because it's for kids right and I'm no longer a kid kid anymore so now what right so I'm like so for me it was Counter-Strike okay I was finally I was 14 and I kind of was like sure you get to play a shooter game right because they didn't want me to play like Call of Duty or anything because it was too violent which is weird because mine was also I was going to say Counter-Strike yeah But your Counter-Strike was probably very different than my Counter-Strike.
    84:11
    Because I was playing CSGO, which is the newest. Yeah, that was before CSGO. It was called Counter-Strike. Yeah, the original. It's funny. You can still play it. A lot of people do still play it. Okay. Because you can do mods on it, and there's community servers. Maybe not on Counter-Strike. I know on 1.6 and Source and what's the other one? I don't remember what the other one's called that people still play sometimes. Really quick, Zoomers make TikToks, Boomers watch TikToks.
    84:42
    Boomers hate TikToks. Boomers are scared by new things. That's like the thing, right? Right. Also, Pinsomniac, you are barely a millennial. That's okay. Manu is the generation before Boomers. Oh, I still have this to play. Is this someone who thinks... Wait, wait, wait, wait. I gotta go back up. Is it someone who thinks that Space Invaders is someone who just won't leave rather than one of the first video games? Uh, no, so, see, that's the thing, right?
    85:11
    That's like, that's the boomer mentality, man. Is that, like, all these zoomers don't know anything, right? In reality, they know everything, they just choose not to care. Like, cause they don't, you know, that's not their, their thing is TikToks and Fortnite, man. Like, that's their, that's what they've grown up on, right? That's their Space Invaders, right? They, like know what Space Invaders is, but it would be absurd for them to play it, you know? If that makes any sense at all, or if maybe I'm just insane. Wait, to play Space Invaders at all? Or these days, right? Or wait, is it just games in general? Because I'm thinking about that. Isn't Atari coming back with all new versions of their older games? I'm not sure. Yes. Sorry, I can answer that question for myself.
    85:53
    All right, so it's like, the idea of, oh, you know, they're different. So it's for me, I'm like, oh, they didn't grow up on Minecraft. They're playing all these new battle royale games. They're not like me. Maybe they should go play Minecraft like I did. Okay. But in reality, for them, it makes sense. All their friends are playing Fortnite. They want to play with their friends.
    86:16
    It's the new and popular thing. Did you get to mess with LimeWire as the replacement for Napster? No. Are you playing with Napster?
    86:26
    Sorry, I've never heard of either. But off the record, I know my dad definitely knows more about it. I wasn't quite there yet. I was probably a little young. Okay.
    86:40
    Real Doomers don't win pinball tournaments. There we go. I don't know, man. There is Arvid, and there is Paul Englert, man. These kids are young.
    86:53
    Escher is a Zoolennial. Yeah, essentially. Okay. basically it's pretty sweet and predates me says higher peanut and I think their Atari either has or is redoing what centipede or millipede I can't remember which they're redoing all of their old original licenses yeah and updating the heck out of them they look awesome the thing is I want it I don't want it for the Nintendo Switch I want it in an RPG it's gonna be in the Switch man but I mean I like the Switch don't get me wrong I just want it in an arcade one-up style. Yeah, it'll be very hard.
    87:33
    As much as I hate to say it, arcade stuff is getting dated. It's getting old. People in the era of console,
    87:48
    when people can play a game anywhere, anytime on their phone, it's going to be... Phone games suck. Yeah, they do. unless you're my dad in Clash of Clans. You know, my dad still plays Clash of Clans. He's like one of the best. He has like everything maxed.
    88:04
    He's never spent money on the game either. That's the best part. He's free to play. Sari, by the way, says, man, DPF over here with the Master and Limewire. Gosh, EGP over here. Sari, I'm fairly certain I am older than you.
    88:20
    I'm getting to the scary part of can you play with madness? Or I have one shot that's not lit. This is when it becomes a puzzle game.
    88:28
    You have to do it in a very specific order, right? So I've already used my spinner, right? Which isn't good because I need to hit one of the loops. Which means I have to hit the loop before I can get my spinner locked in or it won't work. Because I need at least either the upper loop or the lower loop. So I can either feed it with the upper... Why do you need a loop right now? Because I have to hit every shot to add a ball except for one. I thought you just had to hit the reds. I didn't reel it. Yeah, I have to hit all the reds, but if you hit the green, it unlights.
    88:59
    Okay, but if it unlights, then there's just one less red. And to get all the reds... No, it becomes red again. Oh! Okay, well, hit the reds. Yeah, but I literally can't, because if I shoot the thing that feeds the reds that I need to get, they become reds. So, like, there, now I'm okay. I can shoot the spinner and lock it in. But if this is green and this isn't, right? Because there's no other way I can feed that shot. I don't understand why you can't just hit the right ramp right now. Well, I can't. I'm saying I have so many red shots lit, right? Oh, my God. I have to. You have to hit the green shot in order to feed the loop. Exactly.
    89:36
    There's not much I can do about it until... But wait, doesn't hitting the flipper rotate what is actually... Yeah, but the greens are locked in. Oh, there we go. There's the crux, right? Yeah. I didn't realize that the green locked it in. So, yeah, now I'm down to two red shots.
    89:52
    I don't really want to keep playing because these revives are so incredibly important. And what I'm doing right now is not. Oh, is wasting potentially a revive. Yeah, if I blow a revive, it is a waste.
    90:05
    I am. But you've been doing all the online. I've been doing all the online things since I was 12. So, you know. Yeah, I was doing all the online things when online started.
    90:15
    Got your dial up? Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. the day that I got my 28.8 BPS modem, I got a 14.4, upgraded to 28.8. We had that 32.3 or 30, 33.3, 30, and then 56k was like the end-all be-all. It was amazing. And then I also... I got greedy. I didn't go for a danger. I should have just taken the danger. I have another extra lit. And then I was... Before we went to... So we had a T1 at the school, which was 3.5 symmetric up and down. It was amazing.
    90:52
    And then I was trying to talk my parents into getting an ISDN, which was two dedicated lines. So that way you could get essentially 128 instead of 566.
    91:06
    Hey, it's Bloodgrink. Isn't that their wife in the AOL chapter? Wow. Welcome to the stream again. you were here first, actually, I think.
    91:19
    So, yeah, when I was getting online, I lived in this really weird spot, right? So my dad is a huge computer person. He's a satellite engineer programmer, right? So he's online all the time. He's always worked from home, even pre-COVID.
    91:34
    Which means he's very aware of online culture, I guess. Maybe not like the nuances of the culture, but he's aware of it, right? Which means he was very cautious with me and my sister going online. Okay. Because, I mean, that's... I mean, you should be. No, that's... Yeah. That totally makes sense. So, like, yeah, like, chat rooms and stuff, we weren't really allowed to. Even, like, it took me a while to convince them to even let me play Minecraft with my friends and make a Skype account and stuff, right? It was like, oh, you know, you're really young. You really got to do this. But then it's like, oh, he's playing with his friends, right?
    92:10
    It's just... I'm waiting for the other two to drop here and it turns out that like you were attacked at some point or something? No, it was just that my parents were nervous of that the whole time. So my restrictions online was always very high. You had a lot of restrictions. So a lot of the things that were like very popular back then were also a little sketchy because they were very new.
    92:33
    If that makes sense. Oh, totally. no you were right at that age where parents had to like kind of figure things out yeah exactly i mean i had a lot of friends that their parents didn't give a shit at all they're like yeah do whatever and and they just didn't know any better yeah exactly yeah or didn't care enough one of those one or the other i would argue things are more sketchy now because things aren't new no I still I think it's about the same actually because well okay now we have all kinds of apps and firewalls in place that you didn't have before with white lips and that is that you just it's just Nick you haven't had a kid yet or have to look up what's there and you also weren't and I just I get to because I've been friends with Jay Zabel and she has a 19 and a 16 year old and uh and i got to be there with them helping them and talking with them as they were dealing with exactly what you're talking about right now where they were trying to figure out the safest way to do things and they have uh not demo dog it's the like safety dog or something yeah so the weird thing about those is that they tend to not work at all like if you're if you're looking for something you can find it on anything like youtube kids for example right like it was designed to be something that parents could give their kids and then walk away kind of thing right but even then and so they're and then it's on youtube right to put all these restrictions in to make it safe but uh you know mostly for that is like aggressive advertisement right i would never allow access to youtube kids yeah exactly like she gives disney and she gets her kids on netflix account and even kids Netflix occasionally has yeah movies show up that should never be on there like I have to constantly monitor yeah exactly and that's a good that's what you should be doing as a parent online it just it requires active participation yeah yeah and that's basically what my parents were doing is it like you know they didn't know and and all of the niceties well they did know that's the thing sorry yeah my bad they they knew enough to know that you could really get into some weird stuff on the internet. Also, Nick, that's not a technical question. It's just not having, you haven't had to look up stuff for kids. I think that's really what it comes down to. Obviously, you are very technically capable. That was not a knock on your ability to know traffic. I haven't hit a switch in a while. I think I'm about to get. Ball search? Yeah.
    95:20
    Come on, man. Just hit the damn spinner. Incoming raise this game, Club Central, from TTT. I don't think I know TTT.
    95:31
    You're about to know. I'm about to know. George, how's your daughter's military strength hackers kit going? Dervid!
    95:38
    She still is asking for it. rather constantly. She did get an owl, but not a real owl. This is not feeding what I need it to feed. I'm trying to get my super jackpot. I need to hit it harder. There we go. Everybody used to go for midnight bike rides in your teens. Nice slide. Try to tell. There's TTT. There we go. TTT at number two. There we go. Oh, You got it! There we go. That's three of the four. Now it's time to time out. It's level two as well. Oh, got it. Because it was 2x. Try to tilt. Thank you so much for that raid. My half off cue. I just hit my nose and it hurt. I do know TTT, absolutely. What up? Temple is away. Yeah, Terry Red. We're way up.
    96:31
    I'm just trying to time it out right now. I blame these Doolenial. Amiga Cammy, welcome to the stream. Plastic Bugs, welcome. after making this look so easy. I'm working my ass off for this.
    96:47
    This is far from easy. This is so stressful. You're still on ball one. Ball two. Well, I mean, it was an extra ball though, right? Oh, no, it is ball two. This is really ball three for being technical about it. I just want to live, man. I'm playing with my food, so... Ooh, that was nice. Yeah, I meant to do that. Okay, fine.
    97:18
    Everything is intentional. DZ Top, welcome to the stream. It's been a while. Zach. The Zach kid player that did not win the world championship.
    97:32
    Oh, man. George, are you going to help him move the pinball into the other room or just watch him do it all by himself? You want to fix the camera? Huh? No, the camera is in a precarious situation. Oh, okay. I'll move it back. After you're done, we can move it. You're already on two dangers. Don't mess with it. We are just perky. Okay. I need to get some mummy right now. Thanks. Good to be here. Love this game. It's the only new stern I have access to on my island.
    97:59
    And it's my island. you don't know that because it's Braveheart actually your dad probably loves Braveheart yeah but the thing is there's a lot of things in that movie that he didn't want to show to me ah no totally oh let me ask you a question so your dad we have very similar tastes in movies and I'm guessing music and I had no restrictions growing up on movies that I could watch so I watched a lot of rated R movies when I was like 5, 6 than seven years old. Did you have restrictions like that? So, I didn't. We never went to a theater, because my dad, back in the day before you're kids with your fancy Netflix, my dad would rip Netflix, sorry, he allegedly ripped Netflixes. Meaning, what he would do is... He didn't actually do it, allegedly. No, this is allegedly. Allegedly, yeah. He would get Netflix, you would buy like a disc, right, and they would mail it to you. Yeah. And then he would burn it, and then send it back. No no he would make a temporary backup A backup yeah yeah yeah While he had the disc in his possession So we never really went to that many movies and we had a projector right So it was and we prodding chairs and everything I also wonder, if we're describing the situation right now, where Netflix used to send you stuff, by the way, we know the camera's off, but we're in double danger, so we're just dealing with it for right now.
    99:25
    It's not causing the ball to lean or go any particular direction, just FYI. like it's not impacting the game play okay so there's two things I need to worry about right now I need to check my status menu and while you're doing that so I used to have multiple DVD RW devices so I'd have a reader and then I'd be writing live creating those temporary backups that you were just talking about oh yeah and it's weird because once you have those temporary backups after you return the disk you've got to get rid of them But let's say I kept all of those discs. I would have had something like, I want to say about 1,500 at one point. Wow.
    100:09
    We don't have any of those anymore because that would be illegal. But, yeah, back in the day when we used to have media, consumed like physical media. I'll tell you, that's what my parents used to call, like, my screen time is media time.
    100:23
    And all my friends were like, what's media? Wait, wait, wait. George, the camera's up. Left Outlaying Dreams do not exist. That sucks. You would watch RIP TV Needs from Netflix. I would walk to the video store and rent VHS tapes. We are not the same Queen Dark Lady. That started with me having two VCRs connected. And when I came out to CSU for college, I brought something like 50 or 60 VHS tapes that I had copied. Allegedly. Allegedly, yes. Oh, no. I saw it the moment I did it. I just, like, blundered really hard. Like, I was in such a good position, I just had to get a stupor in mommy, and I didn't. Which sounds like, oh, that's hard, but... Oh, while, before you double up, can you trap up and slowly... No, no, just be so gentle. Is that better? It is. Keep going, keep going. Gentle, gentle. You can do this without nudging.
    101:19
    A little bit more, a little bit more. Almost. Oh, my God. There we go. You did it. How did you do that? Oh, it has the earplug on it. So I was waiting a couple seconds in between each one.
    101:36
    Durbin. Well, the camera, I could move, but the camera is precarious is the best way to put that. I don't have the cool setup yet with the mount. And it's not for lack of purchasing the equipment. I just haven't purchased the brackets that didn't show up.
    101:56
    I had to choose beta for VHS at the rental stores in the 80s. Wow, there's a pitfall table over there. It's already beginning to migrate once again.
    102:05
    Uh-oh. Oh, yeah, I didn't turn off the shaker either. That was the other thing that we were going to do. There's first danger, okay. Okay.
    102:16
    That's fine. Getting that out of the way is... Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you don't use it, what's the point?
    102:21
    Is it true that you will lose it if you don't use it? The Revive? I'm sorry? The Revive? Maybe. Okay, I just need to hit 50 switches. How hard can that be on a game of, like, a bunch of pops, spinners?
    102:39
    Oh my god, it's actually harder than I thought it would be. How many more? Three more? I don't even see the... It's on the screen.
    102:50
    I know you... It should be on Luke's Speeded 16, Mummy Monkey Ball. I don't see the number of switches. It's not there anymore. because it's lit. Okay.
    103:00
    Okay. Alright. Here we go. Okay. You've got money which means you've got all four. The number of beasts is ready.
    103:08
    Just kidding. It is no longer ready. Oh no. I think cyborg takes priority. I would assume cyborg takes priority. No it doesn't. No it does. Okay. Don't double drain. Yeah. Don't double drain. And then we get to number of the beasts which is great. Uh, yeah. So, you're going to see... I'm part of the Wii here. Like, I'm experiencing this with you. Yeah, you helped out with this. Yeah, I'm helping you figure out... So, I'm going to play a really odd... I'm going to play a really odd cyborg here, which is I'm going to shoot drop targets. And if you're wondering why, I need a tier 3 orb right now to redo one of my soul shards that I messed up earlier this game. Luckily I only have to do it once because I only missed one.
    103:57
    Are you going for the drop target? Yeah, I just need to get my orb to two or three. All right. Terry, this pin is one of your absolute faves. I think this could be one of my favorites if it had better music on. I don't know. I kind of warmed up to the old Iron Maiden. It's not my favorite, but I warmed up to it after playing it so many times. Sure, I can get there. I don't like absolutely despise your meeting, and I learn to really appreciate um... Oh, don't do this. Ooooooh.
    104:40
    So you might be wondering, oh Asher, why are you not extending your multiball? Because it will eat my orb that I worked so hard for. Just don't kill me, just one time. I have to start for your number of the beast this fall. Number of the beast? Okay, this one was actually really hard. Okay, shoot red arrows to parry the attack, then shoot bullseye targets. You shoot red arrows, then you have five seconds-ish to shoot the center, then you can shoot yellow arrows as many times as you can in about ten, twelve seconds or so. The only problem is I can't hit the orb still.
    105:15
    Okay, so I did that. Now I have my yellow arrows lit. And now we're counterattacking by hitting yellow arrows. Yeah, but right now I'm still shooting drop targets. Okay, because you need... There we go. Okay. So now my next orb will give me...
    105:33
    Should. Doubling. These red arrows suck. I just want to make sure it gave it to me. I'm in no rush right now.
    105:43
    Yeah, so I got the ace is high. Okay. So that means my next tumor award is seven, which is collect double bonus. Okay. It sounds bad, but my best one ever was like 200 something million. Because you can also two exploit field it. I got greedy. The best combo I like doing on this is doing this and then that, but now I drain. I've hit like, I've done like three damage total.
    106:16
    Just bail out there. Okay. Okay, I'm just going to be placed safe. Come down. That's not what I was aiming at, but we take those. Double danger. I know.
    106:37
    Oh, that sucks. Trouble. My bad. You're good. Nice. Okay. Good tap there. I know everybody I feel like is holding their breath right now. I don't like my chances still. I can't hit that left around pretty good.
    106:57
    All right. Going back to the secret locks, turn insider. Desperately needs dirty pool achievements. Yes. Oh.
    107:07
    And then you get all your soul cards again. Okay, you defeated the beast. You got 159, 188, 221. Okay, so I have, I essentially have, what am I missing?
    107:23
    I'm missing two. So I need to do some strategizing. Oh, actually, that's, I really should have gone for my, I didn't realize I didn't have my level 2 cyborg. That's terrible.
    107:35
    Okay, so did you get a shark for that? Yeah, I have two lit right now. Okay. Which is seven and eight, I believe.
    107:45
    Yeah, seven and eight. So, nine... The award for nine is it spots a random level two card. The problem is, is I have only one. Wait, card... Not those cards? Yeah, those cards. Those are level ones. When you get all four tier twos, you get another tomb treasure. Okay. What tomb treasure am I missing right now?
    108:05
    I should... I'm missing one, besides six-way combo. There's one other one. What am I missing? I'm, like, lost. What am I missing? Is there three lit? Yeah, so there's six-way. There's 11 tomb treasures in the game.
    108:22
    You don't know this game to see? I'm going to shoot the left ramp, and then I'm going to figure out what to do. Okay.
    108:27
    Rum! That's what we're missing. The rum. Super double, triple, super secret. The punch to the right outline. You get Ball Saver for it. Alright, so this is Collect Double Bonus for 60 million. Yep. Next one is 8. What is 8? Something really good, I think. Maybe it's... I don't get 8 very much. Usually you get 7. Oh, I do! I do have 9 lit. So I just have to hit 6-way combo and it's lit. Ooh, I thought you had that.
    109:11
    All right. That's good for my angle. I have no idea which one I missed. That's weird. Oh, you're going back through the Moes again. Yeah. No, I just need to make it so nothing is lit to stop a combo.
    109:26
    Let's see here. So, Sari says, I was just talking to Dirty Toes, and we were talking about lasagna. We just got back from New Orleans, Nolens, and talked about making a Cajun-style lasagna, which somehow led us to talk about making a Philly cheesesteak lasagna, which low-key sounds really tasty. That would either be great or awful. Yeah, yeah. Regardless, it's very cheesy.
    109:50
    Very much so. Cheesy in more than one way. Okay, so I can pick up another level two card to give me an extra out. It's not easy, though. Actually, getting an extra out here doesn't matter. So you get the level 2 card in two ways in Trooper. You either turn all the shots white, or you hit one red arrow.
    110:11
    I'm not going to bother explaining Trooper because it's really complicated, and the jackpots aren't worth enough to make it matter.
    110:25
    All right. By the way, the number of the beast was a really cool mode. I like it when there's... I don't know, it doesn't have to be a story. Maybe that's not the right word, but when there's something to those modes. Yeah, no, it is really cool. I do like it when... It's not just like... Hit 17 shots and do something else. Like, it's... Yeah. In that one, you had to parry an attack, and then you had to do damage. Yeah. Think of it like Deadpool when you're fighting the mega crackle-a-donus rat. Yeah, exactly. I really really like that. Alright, so here's my tier 2 card. Okay. Alright, so every single shot is whiter or better. Wow. That worked out really well. Yeah, I meant to do that. Okay, so anyway. Oh wait, look at this tower jackpot by the way. 270, wow. Because I got the 5x, two treasures.
    111:20
    Uh oh. Okay, so here we go. Here we go. Now you just need the six-way combo? Yes. But I need to also shoot this.
    111:30
    Come on, get... Okay, give me Mummy. So if I get back to Cyborg, I can... I mean, Cyborg 3 is hilariously hard. Oh, I forgot, it also gives you 50 million times 2. Okay, so I need to hit a six-way combo. The best way is you start with the upper loop. Not like that, though.
    111:47
    No guarantees that I can do the six-way, because it is very hard. Especially when I can't hit the upper loop. You have to start with the upper loop. Like, there is no... Oh, shit.
    112:01
    Okay. Sorry. So what is it? Explain. I'm sorry. Just do it. Yeah, so... Uh-oh. I don't want to be distracting. Yeah, no worries.
    112:12
    Here we go again. Okay. So this is the best way, optimal way that I have figured out to do this. Because, yeah. You start the upper loop because that shot is the hardest to hit when it matters. You come down and then you go left ramp, right orbit. So that's three. Then you go right ramp, spinner, upper orbit, then you're done. Right ramp, spinner, and then that. You have to hit that combo. Oh, right. Okay, got it. Then that sticks away. You can finish it into the spinner, but if it means my run of the hills is lit, I'm going to shoot the left ramp. So that's the plan. That's trouble. Still in double danger, by the way.
    113:02
    You're still in ball two, by the way. Yeah, okay, so that's one. And now it's dead. Because I hit a deathblow shot. There's a bunch of deathblow shots in the game. Orb, the extra ball target, mummy, the super jackpot target, and the lower spinner. If you hit any of them, it ends the combo. You can tell because above the upper flipper there's this little light that pulses. It's like there. It pulses when you're on a combo.
    113:31
    They are times. Oh, shit. So I haven't hit... Okay, so it's dead. I need to get rid of this combo jackpot because it does block things. oh and the pharaoh target that's why the upper loop is so hard to start on because if you hit the target to feed it kills the combo okay here we go here you go there it is that feed sucks okay that's two left ramp right orbit Got time.
    114:24
    That's trouble. Alright, got one ball to do it. Alright. Is anybody else struggling to breathe right now? Look at me and my 470,000 points.
    114:40
    Feeling it. Oh, man. Alright, you can come back here though. You're down a couple billion, but you can make it happen. I can make this happen. This is essentially the spot that I was in against Raymond, except he then played cyborg for 15 minutes and nearly caught me. But I had an air ball.
    115:06
    Let's do that. So if you don't miss an Icarus the entire mode, it'll be like 1.7 Bill? yeah ok if ZZ Top is still in chat he found this wonderful exploit I think it's the greatest stern pinball exploit of all time I don't think it's even close where you could bug the game out so that none of the timers would run and you could play this mode forever and it would still count your combos the timer would never run and you could just shoot rams and it was awesome.
    115:42
    It was, yeah, it was the Mr. Freeze except for a mode that couldn't finish. It was before the code update where you could shoot the center which is awesome. That is the coolest code ever. I think someone on Tilt Forum has got like 60 billion doing it because then once you got to it, you would go to, what's it called?
    116:02
    What's that mode called? Two Mates to Midnight and then the value would be insane because the soul charge was like three or four billion Hit your soul chart quick. Sir. Nice. That's sweet. Okay, got it. It was an Icarus exploit. Yeah, and Zach Parks, the man who found it. I think everyone kind of knew there was something wrong with Mummy, but no one could reproduce it. And then he found the perfect way. Just hit the billion shot three times. I know! I just thought that. And if you're going to find a game to find a game that has three things that you can get one billion in, you pick the right game.
    116:44
    It's my favorite anchor game in every tournament because in my mind, if I do everything correctly, there's no score I can't catch kind of thing, right?
    116:54
    I'm never locked out from an out. Right. I mean, it's still really hard, and I can't do it every time, of course, but at least I know in my brain I have a chance. Man, you're good at that sweep.
    117:07
    That power nudge, man. Yeah. So. Aw. You weren't three for three. I got it there, though. You did. So, yeah, or you can do what Zach Parks does, and he just shoots the loops the entire game and gets dozens of billions. Like, it is... I was telling him about it in the car, where like his game was reverse staged so the upper foot was super sensitive. Oh no. That went through. It's fine.
    117:44
    It was you got it. That's it on the top left underneath the Penn Stadium. You got it.
    117:58
    Oh. I went off of George's wild ride. upper orbit alright first shot you want to hit that captured ball and then hold the flip up after you do it you got a plan? yeah alright do that ok I'm doing that beautiful so now you have your out of ball ok now hit left orbit quick or left arm sorry ok now flip one ok you missed the two assembly that's fine so hit the center now you get lots of points every second that goes by you lose points Okay, now hit the center again. Beautiful. All right, now you're at like 209.
    118:38
    Not quite. You were almost out of time. Oh, wait, no, you didn't hit the shot. I totally hit the shot. No, a different shot. Hit your orb.
    118:47
    Premium moment. I thought you could shoot the left hand, but you already used that shot. That's my bad. I gave you bad coaching advice.
    118:55
    And you have paid the price. Up there. All right. Oh, bye. Where are we at here? Super jackpot is lit. I got to hit that. We've got... Yeah, it also lights your 3X play field.
    119:22
    On this one, because of how frequently the ball comes down to the right, I think your best bet is to actually just shoot it direct.
    119:32
    I did it. When I tried it, I actually hit my shot on it. Darn it. The two-stage. All right. Where are we at?
    119:49
    All right. We're doing stuff and things. Always. So if you want to catch up quickly, do you want to hear a catch up strat? Yes. Or you can get a couple hundred million really quick here? Yes. So if you look at the screen, you need three targets and you need six spinners and your power jackpot is pretty juiced up. So what you should do is you should aim. How do you know that? So on the screen on the left, it says you need six spinners and if they're colored, that means once you get those six, they complete. Okay. only a few targets and a few spinners. You have 2x ready. The power jackpot's on the bottom right. You have a base of 11 million, but once you finish the other two, it's going to add 2 million and 4 million. So it's going to go to, like, call 20 million. Then, by finishing the other two, it's going to go to 4x. That means it's 80 million value, and then when you get the in lane, it'll be 3x if you can hit that shot, and then it'll be, like, a 200 million collect. If you could play that graphic of the lady who's just sitting there staring slack-jawed as, like, all of the... Or the always sunny gif of the whiteboard or the red string. Yeah, right. Exactly. Shoot your shot, George. Classic. Yeah, so anyway, you want to shoot the super jackpot target from the lower left flipper. Just direct. Just hit it. It's a little later than you think. That was really close again. I'm sorry. What?
    121:10
    It's fine. Anyway, all that value I just talked about just disappeared in a minute. Okay. I see how it is. What is lit? Is my mode lit? Is that what's lit? That sucks if my mode is lit. I guess I can do it. This is a good mode to have. I don't have to care about this mode.
    121:31
    Okay, six-way combo or a bust. As they say. That's one. Two. Three. 4 5 6 Alright, I just have to survive this mode. And you just, no you can't time it out. 14 seconds. This would be really funny.
    122:08
    Ugh, that's even a quick timer. Oh yeah. 10, 9, 8 No one celebrate yet in chat. Everyone just chill. 6, okay. Oh my god That one might not be enough No Oh my god It's going to make you make one more shot You got to wait for the door to open Okay I blew my Why did you Why Because it's lit No I mean Oh it's It did the thing It wasn't open Oh, dude. All right, it's on the left ramp. Yes! Woo! High five! I'm all sweaty. I don't care. That is worth... This mode can be worth a hilarious amount of points, by the way. So it works like... What's it called? Cyborg? Except you've got to do it in order.
    123:09
    So I need... I've already done four. Spelling Mummy adds a ball. Every shot is 1x some amount of points. If I can get to level 2, like that, so now everything's lit, I hit the center, okay, I'm in level 2 now, which means every shot is now 2x of that base value. I need to start thinking about shooting mummy, because it's still like regular mummy, where I have to hit switches, I'm pretty sure, to light the letters. Okay, I need ramps to go to level 3. Okay, level 3 is ready. Okay, I'm in level 3. Okay. I still have a decent amount of ball safe. 3x, that's 21 million a shot. Everything I hit is 21 million. I'm pretty close to my add-a-ball, but I'm out of ball favor now. I need orbit, and then I need... Okay, it's time to slow down.
    124:00
    Okay, I got my orbit. Mummy's lit. I need two more mummy letters for my add-a-ball, and I need just a ramp to light level 4.
    124:12
    Should have bailed out there, but it's okay. Alright, little force ready. My mummy's close, and that's the mode.
    124:26
    Oh no! Not quite. Is that the add-a-ball on the ramp? Oh, on mummy. Alright, I worked all of that just for that mode. I mean, I did it poorly. You got there. I got there. That's the thing. This is probably my lowest score to get there.
    124:45
    But, there you go, chat. So now you're going to do it all over again? No death saves this time. Yeah, there was no death saves. I still get shit for that. But death saving is not okay. Yeah, but I had three extra balls. And no one had ever gotten there yet. I wanted a guarantee. Do it again. Did DMACC do it twice on stream?
    125:09
    Oh, DMACC got there twice? You can do it twice in one game. All the games that I had the chance to do it in one game,
    125:20
    it wasn't in the code yet. Like, that's a recent thing. It used to just end the game and there was nothing else to do. But then they made it so it loops back around. Okay, so you can get back to it. You can. Oh, sorry. No, that's fine. You're sorry if you hit run to the hills. Alright, so the only way I can really do this is to get a multiplier, I feel like, and just loop jackpot for 5 billion. So unfortunately you drained, which means your loop jackpot base value is only 2 million, so what you should do is you should get your 3x ready, and you should try and start the loop on the upper loop, because you get an extra 4 seconds on the mode.
    126:05
    I really can't hit that shot. It's a good shot to learn how to hit because it is a lot easier than... You can also just start 2x and loop. You might want to just do that. I think 3x stresses you out too much.
    126:20
    Yeah, if you're... Oh, my goodness. You can also shat the left... So, here, shat the left... That side? Yeah, it'll spot the target. You want to have it lit.
    126:32
    You got to work on your shats, George. That was good. It just got to go all the way up. Sure. Or you can just use the target. We're playing with our food a little bit here. Oh my god!
    126:51
    Alright, you going to go for it? Hit the question mark? No, I'm just going to hit the left ramp. That works too. No I'm not. I thought about it too much. I don't even... level 3 mystery is really good light revive that's a good thank you well freaking done that's a GC I feel like when we hand this back to Matt Adams the more important one is the run of the hills GC since he's been there my worst run of the hills ever is like 65 million.
    127:33
    But my best one's like 6 billion. Run to the Hills Champion. Yeah, because you want to get to level 4 or level 5 and then you just sit there and you just shoot loops because there are like 50 million a shot. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. That's the thing.
    127:46
    And Loop Champion with 39 total loops. Wow, that's a lot of spins. Yeah, 1,188. Well, that is a heck of a game. You guys, thank you for hanging out, for showing us how to actually play Iron Maiden.
    128:03
    So, everyone, Escher is on Twitter under, is it SteveOpub? It's SteveOpub, yeah. And then also on Twitch, and I'm going to link that right here.
    128:14
    Slash, no wait, exclamation point, shout out, SteveOpub. If it works. Hey, it works. Oh, yeah, Nightbot's there. Yeah, yeah, cool. So, give Escher a follow. So, Escher, do you stream other stuff? Like, what kind of stuff are you streaming? So, currently I'm streaming nothing for the last nine months. Cool, okay. Probably longer now. I'm probably up on a year. But I'm going to start streaming again soon. Maybe pinball, maybe other stuff. I don't know yet. I'll sort it out. Now I'm full text at some point in the very near future. Hopefully, yeah. Yes. We've got to work that out after stream. Yeah, we're going to have to figure out when that is. But that's going to be a fun battle. Ten months. Ten months, okay. Maybe I'll wait until the year anniversary.
    128:57
    Before streaming for the first time. Well, you guys, thank you again. This is Escher. Escher is amazing. Y'all know Escher. Check him out on Twitter. Give his Twitch a follow. And he will be streaming soon. We're pushing hard. And by we, I feel like all of us here. We're all pushing him really hard to start streaming ASAP. Soon. One day I'll start streaming again. Cool. Have a great night. Let's go find someone to raid. Also, Game Club Central, are we going to raid an owl? Oh, last night I tried to raid, who was it? It was Evil Peaches. Oh, yeah. And I just thought he was on a break. And it turns out he had streamed earlier that day and didn't realize, I think, that his computer was still on. Like, he must have raided somebody but never actually had stopped streaming. Oh, yeah. So he might still be online right now. I don't know if I pinged him on the Discord to try to remind him that he was still actively streaming, but yeah, that's your dad's son's stream. Yep. So we're going to go find out who's on. Bear with us a minute here. We're going to play a quick TPN commercial, and then we'll go find someone to rate you guys. Have a great night. Thanks, everyone. Have you been inundated with ads and questions related to TPN's now famous homemade pinball pudding line of puddings? Questions like... TPN's pinball pudding is so good, it must be illegal, right? What the f*** is pinball pudding? How can a collection of content creators also be a pudding? That makes no sense. And we hear you. You want to know what makes TPN so special? The answer is in TPN's secret ingredient. Simply, proof. Other puddings may say they have it too, but watch as they're unable to back those statements up. Well, I'm not a crook. Do you have evidence of that? It might be a tumor. It's not a tumor. Evidence?
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