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PNP Ep.534- Top 10 90's Rock Themes RANKED!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jun 15, 2023
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TL;DR

Ranked countdown of 90s rock bands ideal for future pinball licensing, led by Foo Fighters' success.

Summary

Orville Albert of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast presents a ranked countdown of top 10 '90s rock bands most overdue for pinball machines. He credits Foo Fighters' success as opening licensing doors for other '90s acts and discusses commercial viability, licensing challenges (notably Nirvana due to Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love complications), and band relevance. The episode covers Barenaked Ladies, Tool, No Doubt, Oasis, and Pearl Jam among others, with tangential discussion of Canadian geography, wildfire smoke impacts, and community updates.

Key Claims

  • Foo Fighters pinball success has opened licensing floodgates for other 90s rock bands to pursue pinball machines

    high confidence · Orville Albert, episode intro: 'I truly believe that Foo Fighters has led the way and opened the floodgates if you will... allowing tons more if Foo Fighters was a flop'

  • Licensing 90s bands is now easier and cheaper than it would have been at peak 90s licensing rates

    high confidence · Orville Albert: 'Because the 90s was now... 30 some odd years ago, a lot of these bands, it's going to be easier to get their licensing... It's not going to cost what they would have at the peak of the 90s'

  • Courtney Love makes Nirvana licensing extremely challenging

    medium confidence · Orville Albert explaining Nirvana exclusion: 'Courtney Love is apparently extremely challenging to work with'

  • Ed Robertson (Barenaked Ladies) is involved in pinball music production, helping with Rush callouts and sound selection

    medium confidence · Orville Albert: 'Ed Robertson is so involved in pinball and even pinball music production and helping with Rush and the call outs and the sound and choosing which songs'

  • Barenaked Ladies released an album called Silverball focused on pinball a couple years prior (from 2023)

    medium confidence · Orville Albert: 'they had the whole album that was mostly about pinball I think was called Silverball came out a couple years ago'

  • Primus already has a pinball machine and would not qualify for this list

    high confidence · Orville Albert: 'Primus of course already has a pinball machine unfortunately I don't believe Southbound Pachyderm... is in it'

  • Gwen Stefani/No Doubt had cultural appropriation issues that complicate a solo Gwen Stefani pinball machine

    medium confidence · Orville Albert: 'I would say this cannot be a Gwen Stefani pin because there was some cultural appropriation happening with the Japanese girls there'

  • Oasis brothers Liam and Noel are difficult to work with in licensing negotiations

Notable Quotes

  • “Foo Fighters has led the way and opened the floodgates... allowing tons more [opportunities]. If Foo Fighters was a flop, we wouldn't be having this conversation.”

    Orville Albert @ ~2:00 — Core thesis explaining why 90s rock licensing is now viable for pinball manufacturers

  • “Because the 90s was now 30 some odd years ago, a lot of these bands, it's going to be easier to get their licensing. It's not going to cost what they would have at the peak of the 90s.”

    Orville Albert @ ~3:30 — Key economic argument for why 90s rock IP is attractive for pinball licensing now

  • “Courtney Love is apparently extremely challenging to work with. Plus, with the way that Kurt Cobain unfortunately left the world, it's probably a more challenging thing to make into a fun pinball machine without it being kind of dark.”

    Orville Albert @ ~7:00 — Explains why Nirvana, despite being a major 90s band, doesn't make the viable pinball candidate list

  • “If this was like the top ten punk bands, definitely I would have No Doubt in there... But I do think that there would be a good chance that No Doubt would be very successful.”

    Orville Albert @ ~28:00 — Positioning No Doubt as commercially viable despite ska/punk being niche in modern pinball

  • “If you didn't blast that song in your car and scream it at the top of your lungs every time you were driving alone in the 90s, where even were you? Did you even experience Planet Earth?”

    Orville Albert @ ~38:00 — Cultural resonance commentary about Pearl Jam's ubiquity in the 90s and fan passion

Entities

Foo Fighters PinballgameJack DangerpersonOrville AlbertpersonBarenaked LadiesgameEd RobertsonpersonToolgameNo DoubtgameGwen StefanipersonOasisgame

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball Nerds trading card program expanding with celebrity guest participation (Mark Silva to be first celebrity signee)

    high · Orville Albert: 'Mark has agreed to be part of the Pinball Nerds podcast trading card so I'll be firing him off very shortly 50 cards and he's going to get those signed'

  • ?

    community_signal: Ed Robertson actively maintains pinball collection and hosts content from his arcade; remains engaged with pinball community despite band touring

    high · Orville Albert: 'we got to always see his new and changing pinball selection so it was so cool' and Ed Robertson hosting first live stream of TNA Jack Danger at his arcade

  • ?

    community_signal: Pearl Jam has an exceptionally dedicated collector fanbase with members attending 30+ shows and acquiring international pressings

    high · Orville Albert discussing Ryan Dunn: 'he's seen them now 30 times he owns every one of their albums he's tried to own every like LP from like Japan and Australia'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: No Doubt preferred for pinball over solo Gwen Stefani due to cultural appropriation concerns in Gwen's later solo work

    medium · Orville Albert: 'I would say this cannot be a Gwen Stefani pin because there was some cultural appropriation happening with the Japanese girls'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Alice in Chains and similar bands excluded due to deceased band members limiting IP availability and contemporary visibility

    medium · Orville Albert: 'Alice in Chains, again, you know, one of the members is missing, and you know, they're not really in the public eye anymore'

Transcript

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All get around, he's on the rebound Hear the sound of our buddy, oh lordy, it's Orby Pinball now to rejoice He's tugging pinball, craft beer and coffee Miffed syrup and honey, hopes to laugh with his family And a random tangent, stories of his boys He's on the poor man's pod network We're gonna get more listeners for the Pinball Nerds Podcast.
0:32
Coming to you from beautiful River Hibbert, Nova Scotia. Welcome back, Pinball Nerds, to episode 534 of your fifth favorite pinball podcast. My name is Orbital Albert, and on today's show, we're going to be counting down the top 10 90s rock bands that are over freaking due for a pinball machine okay so I truly believe that Foo Fighters has led the way and opened the floodgates if you will to allowing tons more if Foo Fighters was a flop and thank you Jack Danger for that and Zombie Yeti and the entire team over there at Stern who helped make it such an awesome success from the artwork to the shots to the toys to the mechs to the code to the flow you know Jack Danger you know has a grand slam on his hands and because of that that's going to have all the other pinball companies going doing a little double triple quadruple take okay and they're going to be thinking which 90s bands could work for us? Which themes could we go after? Here's the good news. Because the 90s was now, well, you know, 30 some odd years ago,
1:56
a lot of these bands, it's going to be easier to get their licensing. It's not going to cost what they would have at the peak in the 90s. And then unfortunately for some of these bands, and some that I even had to not include on the list, I don't want to give any spoilers,
2:10
because specifically certain members of the band may no longer be with us and or it's very, very, very challenging to work with that particular band or group of people who have the ownership now or the rights for that music.

medium confidence · Orville Albert: 'from what I understand they're tough to work with both Liam and Noel they have some attitudes'

  • Pearl Jam has extremely dedicated fans with some having attended 30+ concerts and collecting international pressings

    high confidence · Orville Albert discussing friend Ryan Dunn: 'he's seen them now 30 times he owns every one of their albums he's tried to own every like LP from like Japan and Australia'

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  • ?

    licensing_signal: Nirvana licensing blocked by both artist death (Kurt Cobain) and difficult rights holder (Courtney Love); thematic misalignment also concerning

    high · Orville Albert: 'Courtney Love is apparently extremely challenging to work with... with the way Kurt Cobain unfortunately left the world, you know, it's probably a more challenging thing to make into a fun pinball machine'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Licensing costs for 90s rock bands have decreased significantly over time, making IP more economically viable for pinball manufacturers

    high · Orville Albert: 'Because the 90s was now 30 some odd years ago... It's not going to cost what they would have at the peak of the 90s'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Foo Fighters pinball success has directly influenced manufacturer strategy toward 90s rock IP licensing, creating a licensing market shift

    high · Orville Albert: 'Foo Fighters has led the way and opened the floodgates... allowing tons more if Foo Fighters was a flop'

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    market_signal: Pearl Jam positioned as high commercial potential despite reduced contemporary visibility, targeting aging fanbase (35-50 age range)

    medium · Orville Albert: 'I still think there are Pearl Jam mega fans between the ages of 35 and probably 50 that would just go nuts and have to get the premium version'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Oasis being difficult to work with in licensing due to both Liam and Noel's known attitudes/personalities

    medium · Orville Albert: 'from what I understand they're tough to work with both Liam and Noel they have some attitudes'

    • 2:30
    Let's just get into it though. Let's get into it. I know that a lot of people are going to think I'm being biased here, but I don't know how you can make a list like this without being biased. I tried my best to look at this from a commercial, consumeristic, I didn't pick all just little indie emo bands or something like that. I wanted to pick bands that I thought would be the most commercially successful rate now, i.e. from this moment in 2023 forward forever. So these are obviously, they have to be a band that already doesn't have a pinball machine. Okay. They also have to be for me. I know, you know, most, most people are influenced the most by music that they listen to from when they were between, let's say 12 and about 22, somewhere in that range that, that 10, those 10 years. Uh, of course I was conceived in the seventies, 1979. Hello, but not born until the eighties. All right. July 30th coming up to my birthday next month. I'm going to be the old 43 halfway to 86. So, you know, um, but feeling, I I'm feeling good. I'm feeling better than I ever have, or at least mentally, physically. My back is sucking super large right now. I used to only have issues with my lower back, and now I have issues with my upper back and my right shoulder is clicking constantly. I've gone off topic already. It's too early to do that. So let's at least get into the very first band that I want to talk about. And I'm not just saying this because I'm Canadian, but that's right. it's none other than you probably already guessed it it's been wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait that's not how we're gonna it's been what what happened to my girl Jesse where's our new show Jesse J of course used to have a show on the pinball network or maybe still does I don't know it's extended hiatus with Ryan Say over there in Australia. And we do get to hear Ryan Say on the final round from time to time.
    4:35
    But we... Oh, gosh. Guys, this is not how you run a professional pinball podcast, okay? I'm trying to pair a device. It was previously paired, and then I probably took too long, you know, relaxing and checking over my list. And this is, of course, what happened. I'm unprofessional, I'm unprofessional but that's okay, back to it sorry, what were you saying Ed Robertson?
    5:18
    okay, sorry, this part is actually Ed Robertson and I know that this is not rap. This is more, you know, I'll say pop rock, you know what I mean? But this is as close to rap as we've ever had in any game except other than maybe Weird Al's. I guess there's that one rap song, right?
    5:54
    All right, so you know that song. You love that song. I don't plan on playing that much of every song. I just wanted to give you a little taste for it. One week, of course, wasn't from their very first album or even their second. I believe it was their third or one of their larger ones.
    6:19
    But the song that probably perhaps most people may have known them originally from was One Million Dollars, and then of course that would be, sorry, If I Had a Million Dollars, and that blew up in Canada, but it didn't blow up so much in the States until they had the album Stunt, which of course one week was off of. And the reason I played that is because many Americans will be more familiar with that particular song, or of course they do the theme song for the Big Bang Theory, and I did want to Google it. I know that I did put them down at number 10. There was a whole bunch of bands that I probably could have thrown in here. Spoiler alert, Nirvana did not make the list. First of all, we already got a Foo Fighters. Second of all, Courtney Love is apparently extremely challenging to work with. And so I just, plus, you know, with the way that Kurt Cobain unfortunately left the world, you know, there's probably, you know, it's probably a more challenging thing to make into a fun pinball machine, I guess. At this point, without it being kind of dark, right? So you don't see a lot of, and because Kurt Cobain is no longer with us, also, I'm not going to say it's a dead brand per se, but you don't, you know, Nirvana will still and always be probably one of the greatest bands, if not the greatest band from the 90s. Certainly the greatest grunge band of all time. But they're just, it's too hard for them to have a pinball machine, I think. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, you know, maybe we're going to see Joe Kamikawa go out there and Revenge go get that because, you know, he's upset that Jersey Jack got Harry Potter. I don't know. But going back to the Barenaked Ladies, they're the only Canadian band on my list. Spoiler alert, of course, Rush's already happened. So thank God for that or else they would have to be on this list, even though they're not really a 90s band, to be honest, or more 80s, if not 70s. But so 33 million or sorry. Oh, my gosh. I'm on the wrong page. Sorry. Over 15 million albums sold worldwide. And another argument for the Barenaked Ladies being a great pinball machine is not only because they're part of the Canadian Hall of Fame, not only because Ed Robertson is so involved in pinball and even pinball music production and helping with Rush and the call outs and the sound and choosing which songs and all that kind of stuff. Right. not only all of those things but the bare naked ladies still tour they're very much still part of the zeitgeist they still tour through canada the united states europe right right so they're still they're still well known and even though i don't think their last few albums have sold maybe as many records as their first few they certainly you know they they had the whole album that was mostly about pinball i think was called silver ball came out a couple years ago which was really cool and you got to see Ed Robertson's arcade which is where I think I saw the very first live stream of Scott Denisey dropping off TNA with Jack Danger of course to Ed Robertson's arcade I think he got the first one and we got to watch that live stream that was so cool I know Jeff Teolos was there and a couple of my other friends so that was a neat stream to get to watch and although I've never met Ed Robertson we've crossed paths almost like I went to several pinball for change uh charity pinball tournaments in toronto and like i went to like i don't know i think number 32 and number 33 and he went to like number 31 and then i went to 30 and then he went to 29 then i went to 20 i kept just missing him like the ones that i end up missing he went to and vice versa so i've never got to meet him but i would love to get to meet him and like i said i think that they're still relevant you know uh the big bang theory is still in huge heavy rotation they still travel all the time um i know they did the whole series during covid of doing like the uh the live streams from their house and we always got to see ed robertson's uh up there i don't know if that's his home or his cabin where he lives i think it's his house actually up in muskoka somewhere but uh we got to always see his new and changing pinball selection so it was so cool i think they're a rad band you know if you go look them up they have more hits than you would even think they have, right? So, like I said, many people knew them for, you know, if I had a million dollars. I love Brian Wilson. Lying in bed, just like Brian Wilson did. Okay, I should definitely, this is the hardest episode to do and never sing, and I'm sorry, Ed. I don't think you listen to my show, but if you do, I apologize. I have, like, smoker's cough right now, like I've been chugging on ciggies and, like, going on a five-day bender, but it's because the wildfire smoke coming now from not Nova Scotia this time. Sorry about that down there in New York City, Canada, and to all the other New York people. I know our wildfire smoke got down there. Now, thank God our last wildfire is now considered, as of yesterday, under control, the last big one left.
    11:04
    Unfortunately, British Columbia, Ontario, Alberta, tons of other places are dealing with wildfires. So my heart goes out to all those people. Quebec, they're raging out of control, and we're getting a lot of the smoke now here in Nova Scotia from Ontario and Quebec wildfires. So I don't have air conditioning. I don't have a heat pump.
    11:24
    You know, when it gets hot, I have to open my windows or it just gets stifling in our house here. And when I do that, of course, we're getting wild smoke air in. I had to cut my lawn. I did, you know, two days at the markets this weekend where I was working outside all day, both days. and so my throat is actually like, it feels like I have a cold or I'm just getting over a flu or something, but I'm not sick at all. I just have like smoker's cough and this reminds me of when you used to go to the bar and everyone would be smoking inside in the 90s, ironically as we're talking about this show, and the next day your throat would all be like, you know, raw and just gross, even if you weren't smoking at the time, which I certainly was if it was the 90s. But anyways, I love the bare naked ladies. I know some people will disagree, but go make your own top ten list and I would like to hear, I would love to hear any other pinball podcasts or content creators, YouTube, what have you. Tell us your top ten list. We all know that now Foo Fighters was so successful that there's a good chance that there's going to be, you know, other 90s bands that we're going to get to check out and listen to. And speaking of other bands, I know Jason from Pinball Party is going to love this. I know a lot of other pinball nerds are going to love this.
    12:33
    Well, let me just go ahead and play it with that little spoiler alert. guitar solo This is fun, cause I watched them fall away. They'll do, it's not alright. Fundamental differing. Your attention, your shots, your clothes, your scent. Your love of souls and emotions. See them playing as it goes. It's just a power of communication. I think you are a fire. Oh my God, I could have just listened to that whole song. I could have listened to it. The buildup was still coming in. We're a minute 43 and the buildup was still coming in on that song. I know you got to go listen to some Tool now. Sorry I just did that to you. But wow, okay. So, Tool, although originally was more considered like an industrial post-punk type of band, really was maybe the only band other than Nine Inch Nails coming out of that genre that actually is now considered, you know, classic, basically, at this point. Even thinking back, I'm trying to think, like, I can maybe think of, like, Ramstein with Du Host, but they only had one song. Like, I can't think of any other, you know, other than Nine Inch Nails. There's really Tool or Nine Inch Nails, and I have to swing to the Tool side. I'm sorry. I know some people out there would disagree with me. I think Tool has more longevity. I've gone back and listened to their full album straight through, and they're still incredible. although Primus isn't really on this list it was kind of sort of in that vein back in the day but Primus of course already got a pinball machine unfortunately I don't believe Southbound Packaderm which is I think their best song or certainly their best bass line is not in it I don't believe but I only played Primus once at Pimberg and I was probably a little drunk and definitely a lot of other things so I don't remember But Tool had to be on this list because when I think of 90s, there's no other band, like I needed at least one band that would kind of fit this direction, similar to how I needed at least one pop band to fit the, you know, when I think pop rock that I love from the 90s, Barenaked Ladies is top of the list. when I think industrial, post-punk, kind of like hardcore, this is what I think of. You know what I mean? So anyways, yeah, that was Tool. That was the song Shizom. You got some, Shizom? Okay. The next one is going to be my only female-led band. I didn't have a prerequisite where I had to have at least one female artist or one female-led rock band, But I wanted to have one, and honestly, I tried Googling. I didn't use AI to write this particular podcast. Don't worry, guys. But I did use several different wordings in Google for best-selling 90s rock bands, best indie rock bands. I tried doing best punk bands of the 90s. I cross-referenced all these different lists, best-selling Rolling Stone list. I cross-referenced a whole bunch of different lists to come up with this. and well I just going to start the song for you and hopefully nostalgia will bring it right back
    16:46
    Breathe on Sunday morning Sure ain't changing just today Without you morning I thought I knew you I thought I Okay, sorry. Yeah, that is Gwen Stefani, of course, lead singer of No Doubt, punk reggae legends who turned into like a really weird band and then Gwen went on her own. that's why I would say this cannot be a Gwen Stefani pin because there was some cultural appropriation happening with the Japanese girls there and a couple of her more problematic I'll say more problematic albums I love Japan and Japanese culture however you know I would just stick to the No Doubt stuff because I think the first three No Doubt albums were kind of the best with Honestly Tragic Kingdom still being really their best there was you know I think like Spiderwebs or something was a big hit maybe from their second album. But yeah, I also wanted to throw a ska band in here. If this was like the top ten punk bands, definitely I would have No Effects in there or like a Less Than Jake or another type of like kind of ska punk band. But I do think that there would be a good chance that No Doubt would be very successful. Gwen Stefani, of course, is not a dead brand, even though her newer music is okay. It's fine. It's all right. There seems to be less cultural appropriation, which is probably good.
    18:20
    She's with Blake Sheldon right now, who's a country music star, and that gives her some notoriety. I know she was just recently, she accompanied Blake to some big concert, I guess, nearby here in my neighboring province of New Brunswick, and she unexpectedly went up on stage and sang a song with him, I think, in Moncton or some town near here. Anyways, but she's still on The Voice. She's still in the Public Zeitgeist. You still hear about her. She still had like 20 songs that were big hits even after No Doubt broke up. So because of all that, you know, this Shatz is Bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S, whatever, that song was like the most annoying of them all. So please don't put that in the pinball machine. But I would love to see, honestly, any type of ska or punk pinball machine and No Doubt probably has the best chance to be commercially successful. It seems like Gwen's really easy to work with. She does a lot of team-up deals. Go get me some No Doubt. And, of course, as a Canadian, up here we all say, Hey, how's she going today, bud? Oh, pretty good. What are you doing? Oh, not too much. Going down to the hockey game and drink a couple of Mulsons. And then, you know, Buddy will say, Are you going to be there tonight then? He'll say, Oh, no doubt, eh? No doubt. I'll be there. No doubt. That's like the most Canadian thing ever. So I don't even know if Gwen Stefani knew how No Doubt that was. I was inspired by Mark Silk. Wow, what a show. That was an awesome show, my last show. I've never been so nervous in my life. Maybe, maybe, maybe the first time I interviewed Christopher Franchi, I was about that nervous. But like, Mark Silk isn't just like pin famous, like some of the pinheads I have on here. But Mark Silk is like famous, famous, you know what I mean? Like he's a character in Star Wars Episode One. He's been the voice of the Sorting Hat since, you know, the last decade or whatever in every product theme park, you know what I mean? he had his own trading card which I just bought yesterday morning I was going to take a screenshot and send that to Mark and be like I got your signature but you know of course Mark has agreed to be part of the Pimble Nerds podcast trading card so I'll be firing him off very shortly 50 cards and he's going to get those signed I'm going to fire him off some angry alpaca coffee as well and I do want to give a big quick shout out to Matthew who dropped Target Danielle just dropped off your most recent order. My man ordered so much coffee, like we had to go get bags of coffee from Tatamagush and Pugwash. Yes, those are real places out here in Nova Scotia, beautiful River Hibberts, Nova Scotia. But Matthew, thank you so much for that large order. I really appreciate that. That's probably the second largest order we've ever got of our life, other than Drew, my man Drew from the Poor Men's Pinball Podcast. Hopefully we hear from Ian and Drew soon. It's been a while, and I know there is a new show. I think it's called We Suck, as in, like, Nintendo Wii. And that was previously with, well, it's with Craft Brew Sally.
    21:09
    Of course, from her and Foghorn Leghorn have the Pinball Drunk Drawer, which I haven't listened to that most recent episode, but I did listen to the We Sucks. It's kind of just an introduction episode, especially if you love playing video games, and or you used to love playing the Wii, the Nintendo Wii, please take time to go listen to that. That was pretty fun, exciting, very short, very digestible. Now, I will be honest. I do normally skip, not always, but I do normally skip, even in Eclectic Gamers over there, I do end up skipping the video game segment because they're pinball and video games. And so it would make sense that I do kind of, you know, I might not listen to every episode, but if they're short like that, I probably will, especially if they're reviewing or talking about games that I love, like especially Wii Sports. That one was so good. I've gone off traffic, traffic, I've gone off topic again. Let's get back on track. So we've done three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Good. So this, we've done, we've done number ten, number nine, number eight. This is number seven. This is the first one coming from Britain. If you can guess who it is in the next three seconds, you're a champion. Here it Here he goes.
    22:50
    Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you By now you should have somehow realized what you gotta do I don't believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now Backbeat, the weather's on its feet That the fire is... Wow. Okay, again, another song. I could have just listened to the entire album, but I chose not to. Just for you guys, because I know time is of the essence. And, I mean, if you were to think of one British or Brit-pop rock band from the 90s, you're going to think of Oasis. I really enjoyed Pulp and I know I love their song Common People I also really enjoyed Blur for a little bit until song two was way overplayed but really the one British band now maybe part of the reason why Oasis is not higher on the list is because from what I understand they're tough to work with both Liam and Noel they got some toots they got some attitudes it's like if you hang out with Orbital Albert in the morning before he's had coffee and a vape. I'm a little bit of a grumpy. I'm not a morning person. I'm not an afternoon person if I'm tired either. And I, you know, my coffee's worn off and I'm, you know, I'm in between my morning vape and my early afternoon, my 420 vape. You know, I get really tired and grumpy. And I think when you become 40, you actually have to start legally napping two to three days a week. Like I don't need a nap every day, but especially like on days where I'm outside in the sun for several hours and like cutting the lawn or getting the garden planted or walking the dog or uh well you know when you have seven acres there's stuff to do outside chopping down trees to heat for the winter that kind of thing um I'm exhausted if I even just do two or three hours of hard work outside and it's warm I'm just exhausted and I end up coming inside and I just like I just like pass out but you guys are probably passing out because I've gone off topic again so I got to go see Oasis with my best friend Matthew Megaphone. Also with our other buddy Matt in the hat. And then I believe Matt's wife Lisa was there. Shout out. We saw them at the JLC, the good old John Labatt Center in London on Terrible. And it was a great show. I don't know if it was like their last you know, the brothers broke up and then they came back together and then they broke up. They've got back together, like broken up and got back together more than you did with your grade 9 girlfriend. You know what I mean? That was me in grade 9, baby! That was me in grade 9! That was me in grade 9! Alright, so, super duper successful band. They might be tricky to work with, so that's why they're not higher on the list, but that was them at number 7. Oasis. They did have at least 3 good albums and then they came back and they had maybe 2 hits from their next album, so you'd have quite a bit to work with, but of course you'd want to use primarily their stuff they used at the start. Next up is a band that although you don't hear about them that much anymore were just massive. If they were still in the zeitgeist or the public eye a little more often I would bump them higher but I've spoken. Here they are.
    26:37
    With him on top Living your son Homes raised in a field Deadly in pools of blue Nobody will give a sense of Oh, to the fact that money can't King John will be the wicked Oh, these roads They're always falling There has to be They're always falling There has to be If you didn't blast that song in your car and scream it at the top of your lungs every time you were driving alone in the 90s, Where even were you? Were you even, did you even experience Planet Earth between 1992 and 2002? Probably not, because Jeremy's spoken, and what he says is that Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam was like, you couldn't really tell what type of, you could call them indie rock, I suppose, especially on their kind of their later albums with more ballads, you could call them, or anything really past no code, you could call them, you know, more like pop rock, I guess. but wow and I can't there's no other band on this list that has fans that are as crazy like uh one of my good friends Ryan Dunn was the biggest Pearl Jam head ever I think he's seen them now 30 times he owns every one of their albums he's tried to own every like LP from like Japan and Australia and in Sweden Norway Denmark you know like uh he's tried to own like everything Pearl Jam for a lot very, very, very long time. Shout out to Ryan Dunn. I don't think I have him on my Facebook friends list anymore. I think I lost him during COVID or something. I don't know what happened. I had like 1,500 people on Facebook and I had a little bit of a mental breakdown when I took a year off podcasting and basically deleted everybody, I think, except for 300 people on my Facebook. And if you were one of those people that I had on there and I deleted, please add me as a friend again. I'm in a much better place. And, you know, Jeremy has spoken and that was Jeremy by Pearl Jam.
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    Now that we've done five of the top ten and we've got five left, I'm sure I'm going to get emails from people who just freaking love, who just love Pearl Jam and think Pearl Jam should have been number one. Again, they're not that much in the zeitgeist nowadays. I think they tour every couple years or do special events or charities, but it's been a while, right? It's been a while. I have not ever seen Pearl Jam. I kind of would like to see them. I would like to see them a lot more. I wasn't like, I did, I know I purchased, I think, like two of their albums, but, you know, they, I don't know, I kind of like didn't like them that much past like the third or fourth album, but they're still great, and I still think that it would sell very well, and I still think there are Pearl Jam mega fans between the ages of 35 and probably 50 that would just go nuts and have to get the LE version of that. So I think that would do very well. Now, we've already talked about why, now that we've done the top five, I want to talk about some bands that didn't make the list, that could have made the list.
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    Of course, Alice in Chains, Rage Against the Machine, probably just a little bit too political. Alice in Chains, again, you know, one of the members is missing, and, you know, they're not really in the public eye anymore.
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    Excuse me. Too much Wildflower Smoke. These loves. My virgin lungs aren't used to this anymore. So, R.E.M., Losing My Religion. Again, we don't really talk about them too much anymore. I do remember them having, like, the number one song of, I think, like, I don't know, like, 1993, whenever... Is it Loose in My Religion or Lost? Losing My Religion, I think it is. Now, why didn't I have U2 on here? Several reasons. I've put U2 into more of an 80s band. Second of all, I hate U2. No, I'm just kidding. My best friend, Tim, who ended up being one of my groomsmen at my wedding, probably made me listen to too much U2, so I would always vote for anything but U2 on a Friday night. But I mean, I still love The Joshua Tree, and I don't like any of their new stuff. Everything from where U2 started forcing their music onto Apple, nothing from there did I even remotely... I still think they're great musicians. I just think they're kind of slightly overrated. There's so many other better bands. I think they would be very difficult to work with in a pinball machine. And I think they're more of an 80s band. So if I was doing an 80s list, you know what, you two? I might just let you two on the list. All right. I didn't include a lot of like Pantera or Pavement or even The Offspring. Because I think they're just a little bit too heavy. The Offspring, maybe. I don't know. I could see like maybe a spooky pinball doing something like that. They're probably an easy license to work with, but I pretty fly for a white guy, pretty not cool song and everything. You know, they're again, for me personally, I was like a pretty hardcore punk dude at the time. The offspring was like, no, it's just, no, it's just, no. If I was going to pick one punk rock band from the nineties, it would not be the offspring. Uh, Sonic youth was a possibility.
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    Um, There was other bands like the Black Crows and the Counting Crows, which I thought would have been good. Hootie and the Blowfish, they probably would have been in the top 15.
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    Counting Crows would have been maybe in the top 15. I also thought about the Cranberries. I freaking loved the Cranberries. That would have been another UK band slash or at least British band or not British sorry UK band slash female band but of course um oh what her name is I I and the Cranberries I loved loved like zombie loved at least, like, three of their albums, or two of them. Hooting the Blowfish, loved at least two of their albums, um, the Goo Goo Dolls, I was doing this list, and when I mentioned the Goo Goo Dolls drop target, I was doing this list last night, and rang something by my wife, and when I to the Goo Goo Dolls, drop target Danielle went, uh, please, no, please. She just doesn't like them. I don't know, like, she might have had the same issue I had with Aerosmith, where my stepdad listened to it on repeat every Friday night while getting hammered, and it's like, so I didn't want to listen to it anymore. But she might have had a friend who listened to too much Goo Goo Dolls inside.
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    I think one of the Buffalo Pinball dudes just, like, loves the Goo Goo Dolls. I'm sorry, I think it's Nick. I don't, I don't, I don't know. But I like the Goo Goo dolls my best friend melvis loves the goo goo dolls um goo goo dolls they're i think they're good they're they're good no it's collective soul maybe that i'm confusing uh them with but anyways collective soul would have been decent goo goo dolls would have been decent flaming lips would have been cool whole corny love probably musically would have been right up there but again she's very difficult to work with um acdc is more of like an 80s band you had the whole like incubus and all those kind of bands like that that were like kind of rap rock. I don't really like any of them.
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    Sublime. Sublime would have been number 11 on this list. Of course, Bradley Knoll has passed away, but I didn't get to see Sublime with Brad, but I did get to see Sublime with their new singer. Actually, the London, I don't know, London Rock Fest or something back there in the Forest City, and they were great. Sublime with Rome, I think is who it is. I got to see them. That was incredible. There's a whole bunch of bands like Faith No More, I think I mentioned, Bon Jovi, kind of stuff like that. I think of those as more like 80s bands. I didn't really get into them too much. But let's keep moving on with our list. Number five on the list needs probably no introduction. This song, I mentioned earlier what year I was born in, or sorry, what year I was conceived in. And this particular song has the same title as the year I was conceived in. So thanks, Mom and Dad, for that. I appreciate that. Hey, we're all one in a million, right? Isn't that what they say? Okay.
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    See you next time. All right. So that song took a little while longer to get going than I remembered, but I could have played Bullet With Butterfly Wings or, you know, one of their other, like Tonight Tonight, probably one of their biggest songs. But I decided for 1979 not only because I still like that song and I still jam to it, whereas like not very often would I be. I'd probably have to have a couple of beer skis in me to want to jam out to Bullet With Butterfly Wings. Tonight Tonight's all right. They got that, you know, it's a little more mellow. I'm almost 43 now. I'm starting to mellow out a little bit. My older age, me and my old man, naps. But, wow, Smashing Pumpkins. Billy Corgan has actually mellowed out a lot more in his older age, and he's actually, I guess, a lot more easier to work with. I've listened to at least a couple interviews with him in the last few years where he's kind of admitted that, you know, he wasn't the easiest dude to work with back in the day. I think he's trying to either put the band back together. He started another band, but I think he's trying to bring back the other band, but I don't know if it's Darcy or someone else on the Smashing Pumpkins who doesn't want to be part of it, but if Billy Corgan pulls off the impossible and brings together at least most of the old Smashing Pumpkins and does a big tour with them, you better believe it that the nostalgia factor will kick in. Now, does Billy Corgan have the best voice in rock? Absolutely not. And to a lot of people, it's grinding. I get it. I get it if you don't love it. I'm sorry you had to fast forward that minute of him singing, but I did love the Smashing Pumpkins. I did own actually that single, like the record, or I don't know what they call it, the LP for 1979. I had it new. I had it in package. I had it on my wall forever and I think I like sold it to a pawn shop or just whatever, gave it away, lost it, whatever. And I looked it up on Discogs last year and wow, it's worth like I think 80 to 90 bucks now. If you have records of top 40 bands and you have them in the wrapper, do not sell them for cheap. Look them up on eBay or Discogs. Why can't I say that?
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    I'm blaming it on the wildfires. It's the fire's fault. And speaking of fires and hot, on to the next band.
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    Number four. She's my companion. I walk through the hills. She knows who I am. She sees my good deeds. She kisses the wind. I never worry. Now that is a lie.
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    I don't ever want to feel Like I did that day Take me to the place I love Take me all the way I don't ever wanna leave Like I did that day Take me to the place I love Take me all the way Yeah, yeah, yeah Whoo! Wow! Okay! so um wow the red hot chili peppers they these guys are still killing it like they are getting up there in age for sure and i know they partied like the rock stars they were until they were like 30 and since then um i know especially like um uh flea and i believe anthony kitas have been trying to be like super healthy and i don't know like they're they're just like super fit and healthy and I saw them play live, like, not that long ago on a YouTube video, and I was like, man, these guys, they still are fire. And I get it, like, they're the Red Hot Chili Peppers, they're fire. You know, I get it. But Under the Bridge isn't just their only jam, and unlike quite a few of these other bands, this is why I had to put the Red Hot Chili Peppers at number four, because they still have, like, I know Californication was, like, the last, like, kind of big song that everyone knows, but if you go listen to their last, I think, two or three albums, they always have, like, one or two banger that, like, snuck up on the radio. Maybe it didn't make it a top ten song on the radio, but, like, you'll hear it playing, you'll recognize it. It would be a big enough banger that you would recognize it. So if you go listen to some of those Red Hot Chili Peppers, and it just brings you right back to, I don't know, like, I don't know, like, I think, like, making it with girls at parties and, like, getting drunk off Mike's Hard Lemonade. I don't know. I don't know. Like, smoking, like, really shittily rolled up pregnant frickin' joints, right? Like, just, it just brings me back. Well, I'm looking right now in the video for Under the Bridge, and the metallic green, the metallic turquoise guitar that they're playing, I had a Mexican-made Fender Stratocaster that was, like, identical to that color that just, oh my god, oh my god. it's the Red Hot Chili Peppers they would slay they would freaking slay whichever company gets that title you better believe it that uh um I don't know why I just thought of this but Will Farrell actually does like a drum off battle with the drummer from the Red Hot Chili Peppers uh on late night tv and that's hilarious also but okay let's get into number three this show's going way too long how are we at 40 minutes come on supposed to keep this short tight toy like a toy guy uh All right, the next one, let's just say I did pick their big ballot, but, you know, it's about time. Let's just play it. Let's play it.
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    Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road. Time grabs you by the wrist, directs you where to go So make the best of this past and don't ask why It's not a question but a lesson learned in time It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right I hope you had the time of your life All right, guys, that was a little bit of Good Riddance, Time of Your Life by Green Day. Now, admittedly, this came out nearer to the end, and I could have chosen another more Green Day-ish song. I had the pleasure of actually seeing Green Day at Warped Tour in Barrie, I think, in 1999. And the only reason I can remember it's 1999, because my two girlfriends that I brought with me, it was kind of a weird situation. I brought my girlfriend and my ex-girlfriend who were friends but also not really friends because of that situation. But I had got tickets with my ex-girlfriend to go. Her and I were girlfriend-boyfriend at the time. Then we broke up and my new girlfriend said, if you're going to go with your ex-girlfriend, then I have to come too. And I said, okay, cool. I don't care. It's all good. anyways they were both 18 and I was 19 so here in Canada I could drink and I remember I kept going to the beer tent and getting more and more drunk and they kept waiting for me outside the beer tent like why are you in there so long what are you taking because I'm getting drunk I'm having fun I'm at warp tour leave me alone girlfriends so I had a great time uh shout out to Tracy and Rachel um have I think I have one of the two of them still on my Facebook and I think she's doing very well. The other one I have no clue about. But, good riddance. Time of their life to both of them. Wow, that was a show. I believe if I'm not mistaken for Green Day, I was crowd surfing for at least 50% of the songs. And I do remember that I lost not only one shoe, but two shoes. How bad is it that if you lose one shoe, you continue crowd surfing until you lose the next shoe? Oh my gosh. Who didn't turn off their phone before they started recording and I guarantee you oh no, this is early in the day. Hopefully they don't leave a long message with private information on it or else I'll have to play another song to cover it up.
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    Uh oh. Okay. No, it's probably one of those auto calls. You know what I mean? One of those fake people. Believe it or not Orby isn't home so leave a message at the beep. That's what my answering machine should be. All right, so the next band on the list, well, going back to Green Day just for a second, they were really the only punk rock band that I added. Green Day is by far the most commercially successful punk rock band of all time, although it could be arguable that they sold out later in their career. They still put out some frickin' bangers, including Good Riddance, Time of Your Life. Dookie is still, for me, their favorite album, you know, that's the biggie, that's the good one, it has When I Come Around. I did like, actually, I was in a band, and we performed a cover of theirs for Geek Stink Breath, and still to this day I can play that song, because I played it in concert so many times, so many times! I played it in an official concert setting a grand total of maybe twice, I played it, you know, at, like, parties and get-togethers hundreds of times, right? So, but anyways, I do think that, I think Green Day still play. I thought I just saw they were headlining somewhere last year or this summer. So yeah, I think Green Day would be great. You know, they're, they're, they're number three for a reason. I really do think that they would sell a lot of pinball machines. It might skew a little bit younger, like instead of being, you know, more like Pearl Jam, where I'm guessing the main fans are now between, you know, 35 and 50. I'm guessing the main fans for Green Day would probably be between, like, 30 to 45. I'm guessing somewhere in that range. I could be wrong, but I think if you were going to pick just one punk rock band, I think you would kind of have to pick them. I personally would much rather NoFX. I'm a way bigger NoFX fan. I would also personally rather hear like Rancid to be honest or even like like probably even Lagwagon or something like that like a smaller band or even Gob if I had to pick a Canadian band but anyways this isn't about me this is what I think would do well and I think that this next band band number two would perhaps sell the most but there's one reason why I couldn't put them at number one even though I think they would sell the most there's one reason why I couldn't put them at number one, but I had to have them on here. And well, you know, as being Orbital Albert from outer space, it was time for me to get a little intergalactic.
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    Well now, don't you tell me to stop You stick around and make it what you want But nothing beyond what you can tell Maybe it's because I'm so versatile Style, profile, I said Anyway, did you make one of these? Damn, those boys can jam. Wow, I freaking love the Beastie Boys. I used to love the Beastie Boys. I still love the Beastie Boys. No matter where I hear the Beastie Boys, I get excited. The Beastie Boys are probably the only band on this list that I still actively will put on their music from time to time, as well as watch... I've tried... There's so many docs that are really good, just even for free on YouTube, and many documentaries on the Beastie Boys They such an interesting band They spanned punk when they first started like punk rock So I know it kind of weird Some people say oh they a 90s rap band or they like hip hop Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are hip hop, but they're also probably the leaders of what's called rap rock, right? So they also, for many years, if I were to play something more like Sabotage, you'd really hear like kind of their rocky side. Or even So What You Want has incredible guitars and stuff in it, right? So the Beastie Boys, the only reason I didn't put Beastie Boys up at number one is, and I do think the Beastie Boys would outsell every other band on this list because you have people who like rap who like them, people who like rock, people who even like pop, people who, you know, they span so many generations. Now you're going to talk about Beastie Boys fans? I've actually met a lot of kids that are friends with my oldest son Hayden including my son Hayden who know and like the Beastie Boys like of all the bands on this list both of my sons would not be against a Beastie Boys pinball machine whereas every other band on here they'd be like meh you know like I know like all the other bands on here because of me they've heard a couple songs of but like Pearl Jam neither of my sons could sing like a line from any Pearl Jam song whereas Beastie Boys they recognize like probably seven to ten songs of and they're still relevant they're still memed and they're still you know there's they're they're probably going to be sampled forever they're one of the most the group that has sampled the most and then they're probably going to be sampled forever of course i believe it was ad rock um one of the the founding three members of has passed in you know some time ago now but um and uh rest in peace of course uh i don't know if they still do many brand deals i know i don't believe they've ever played again which how could you really if one of your three original founding members had been you know i can get why they wouldn't want to but i know it might be harder to get the beastie boys theme than most of these other pinball machines however I do truly believe that that one would sell really well, and it would be our first truly non... I don't want to say non-rock pinball machine, because I know TNA has techno music in it, even though it's not known. And I know that Tron has Daft Punk in it, and I know that there's definitely some non-rock songs in Weird Al. But I'm saying this would be our first... You know, if you had more of like a hip-hop establishment as opposed to a rock and roll bar, this is the pinball machine that you'd want to put on location. If you were in more of an urban area, this is the pinball machine you'd probably want to put on location as opposed to like an Iron Maiden. Do you know what I mean? Like if you were to poll people 30 and under, a very small percentage of them would know Iron Maiden and a very large percentage of them would know the Beastie Boys. But also if you were to poll people in their 50s, a very large percentage of them would also know the Beastie Boys, right? And even getting on to the 60s, and that's what I'm saying. These guys have been around from so long, like early 80s until mid-2000s. They had like, not many of the other bands on here had like two, three, maybe four relevant albums. These guys had like seven, right? Like you would know hits from like seven or eight of their different records. So Beastie Boys, I love you. I truly think you'd sell the most. Please, please, please, Stern, JJP, Spooky. maybe American Pinball maybe maybe maybe American Pinball go for this license and someone found David Fix this is incredible I did not get him on the show but he was on the Pinball Magazine Pinball Podcast Pinball Blog Show and I have to go listen to that it's up for me to listen to soon soon before I get into number one I do want to say something I thought that was kind of cool that came up I know Ken Cromwell from Special One Lit. Of course, they're with Bill Webb and Steve Beattie, my spirit brother over there.
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    Steve was talking about kimchi on Drain It or Save It, I think two episodes ago. And they said, he said like he doesn't eat any fermented foods. And I felt like shaking Ken and being like, like, if I still had Ken on my Facebook list, I think I would actually send a message being like, dude, what? Like, you don't drink beer. Beer is fermented. You don't eat like, well, you know, pickled beets. I don't know. Okay, if you don't eat pickled beets, fine. That's more of a Dwight Schrute thing. But, you know, like pickled eggs or deviled eggs or well, pickles. Pickles are pickled. Pickled onions. Pickled anything is a fermented vegetable, right? And then you have sauerkraut. And ironically, on this, the new Drain It or Savor It, spoiler alert, on their most recent podcast, which just came out a couple days ago, Ken was talking about how he loves the Chicago style hot dog or frankfurter, is that what it's called in the US? frankfurter? I don't know, I've heard this frankfurter term I thought it was a German thing but then I hear people in the US say frankfurter, in Canada we're not like, oh I'd love to go cook a frankfurter on my barbecue, you know what I mean? but anyways, he said that he loves this hot dog with sauerkraut and I was like, bro it's called sauer because it's fermented and it makes it taste delicious and sour. So sauerkraut is literally just salt combined with chopped up kraut.
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    Seh German für Kraut? No, it's just chopped up, I was going to say broccoli. It's definitely a broccoli. It's cabbage, right? I used to work in a German food truck and that was, sometimes my job was to chop up like 20 pounds of frickin' cabbage finely and mix it with, you only mix it with water. You just crush it up until its own lacto acids and stuff are in there fermenting and you leave it at like room temperature for four days and boom you have super yummy all-natural super high probiotic really healthy um anyways it was i thought it was funny that ken was saying he doesn't have anything fermented and i was like what so you don't drink beer obviously i think he forgot about beer because i think he loves craft beer i'm pretty sure i've heard him talk about craft beer several times before so um obviously like malort i'm assuming that's fermented most of your hot sauces those are fermented right uh then you're talking about sauerkraut, you're talking about kimchi, oh my god, how are you going to have Asian-style nachos without kimchi on top, like, that's going to make it, how are you going to have, like, a really good, like, authentic, you know, Thai spring roll without sauerkraut, or any type of butter chicken, or any type of, you know, any authentic type of Chinese, Thai, Asian, Japanese, pretty much any dish you can think of, it's freaking amped up, It doesn't matter if you're having pho. It doesn't matter if you're having any type of noodle dish, and you add a whole bunch of, like, kimchi on top. It just, it's like fire. It's like their version of hot sauce, kind of, and it is very similar. Kimchi is very similar. It's made with primarily cabbage. They add a little bit of carrot and a couple other fermented vegetables, and it's made a little bit different. They add some other sauces and such, so there's more to it. But, yeah, we're talking, like, what would life be without beer, sauerkraut, kombucha? oh my god that's my favorite drink other than coffee of course come on i own a coffee company gotta say that but like kombucha is just fire it's only like 0.5 to 0.25 alcohol so you don't get drunk off at all you don't get hung over you don't get any of the negative effects of the alcohol because it's so low but you get all the positive effects of the probiotics we know that like 95 of your immune system comes from basically what you put in your mouth to when it comes out your butt sorry buttholes that's how it is so 90 of your immune system comes from what's going on you know in basically in your colon essentially your stomach your colon your intestinal tract uh so you know when you're eating probiotics for millions and millions and millions and millions of years humans did not have access to things like refrigeration and freezers so all the foods we're eating all the and then your bread you do not use a leavened yeast do you not use a fermented like do you eat unleavened bread are you eating like hard rock so of course unless you don't eat any bread products you that's fermented right like um so what i'm saying is is that i love fermented foods you should love fermented foods ken i'm sorry you're wrong but uh ken you also love fermented foods because you said you love sauerkraut on the hot dog uh you know what i mean so what else we have and then every single day like i have as a healthy treat i have usually a mango, uh, kefir or kefir, kefir, depending on who's saying it, but that's basically like a super fermented probiotic. Like I think one cup of kefir that I have is equivalent to like the amount of probiotics that you'd have to eat like two to 300 yogurt cups of. So it's a super fermented food that just tastes great. It's almost like a mango milkshake. And then mango helps with like, uh, THC, uh, penetrating the blood brain barrier. So it helps you be able to ingest less THC, but yet be higher for longer. So it's a really cool thing. It's a cool, fun thing. Anybody, anybody who is not,
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    anybody, someone is calling back again. Oh no, it's probably important. I better go. Okay, I am going to play the number one band that needs to have a pinball machine right now. Without further ado, here we go.
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    Inside Flip on the telly Wrestle the jimmy Something is bubbling Behind my back The bottle is ready to go Say it ain't so Your shock is a heartbreaker Okay, say it is so. So please, dear pinball gods, allow there to be a Weezer pinball machine. I think that Weezer is still in the zeitgeist. They still travel. They still tour. And maybe most importantly, they still have really awesome songs. And even though some people say they sold out, I've got to see them play live. Nobody puts on a better show than Weezer. Please make it happen. I don't care if it's Blue Album only or if you're including... I would prefer also Pinkerton to be on there, to be honest. but wow and honestly they've had hits now maybe even more so than any other band on this list spanning the most number of years every album they've ever had has had at least a couple bangers on it so dear pinball gods please allow for weezer to become a pinball machine um i got to see them live in florida which was just incredible uh i also got my i had tiva sandals ripped off for That one, Jesus, I've lost my shoes in a lot of concerts. I don't know how that happens. And left with no shirt on quite often. I don't, yeah, I'm that guy. I'm that guy at the concert who's like, got like a pair of short shorts left on and that's it at the end.
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    That's happened. It's happened a couple times. It's, you know, these things happen. I don't go to concerts as often. And when I do, I don't crowd surf anymore. I don't think my back would allow me to crowd surf nowadays or my knees or my ankles or all those things. I have started running again, which is the running, believe it or not. It's sitting that actually hurts my back. The running is fine for my back. But, wow, I would love to see Weezer again. I've seen them now twice. I've seen them, my sister Janelle showed out, got me tickets for Hawk Rocks the Park to go see them, which is just great.
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    Everything from the imagery, they had like three bangers. People didn't love their last album that came out during COVID, but they had like three bangers on there. The one is La Brea Tar Pits. Go listen to La Brea Tar Pits right now. If you have nothing else going on, or even when you get a chance, go listen to La Brea Tar Pits. I think it's only like a, it's not like a real music video. It's just like the Weezer lyric video or whatever. But they're still putting out incredible music. They even did an entire orchestral album, which was really cool during COVID. That one I don't love as much as the album that has La Brea Tar Pits. But I even bought a whole bunch of their NFTs. Like, they're still out there in the public. They're still doing interviews. the whole thing about you know matt sharp has been in and out of the band several times of course he went off and did uh friends of p with the rentals which was uh apparently friends of p is friends of pinball i think i think jack danger gave us that news at some point if i'm not mistaken so uh there's already that you know what one of their most frequent band members their bass players came in and out the most often he absolutely loves pinball um i i'd be shocked I'd be shocked if any licensors went to Weezer and they couldn't get it. I think that Weezer would probably be much easier to work with than the last two or three bands I've mentioned. I also think that they have fans. And my sons, I know I said Beastie Boys, they wouldn't recognize as many Weezer songs, but they definitely, like, who doesn't know Island in the Sun? Of course that song is a little overrated and overplayed, but catchy as hell. You know, they've had actually, when you type in Weezer, you'd think it just comes up with like Say It Ain't So or Pink Triangle or El Scorcho.
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    You'd think that that's the only things that come up, but it's not. Like they actually have had a lot of really good songs since then, and people kind of forget about all their other bangers. So go take a listen to that. I still think that they could go one of two directions where they could either just do their first two or three albums or maybe just the blue album for the LE for the artwork, you know what I mean? Even though that would be difficult, it would be better to have some songs from all the different eras. Please don't Toy Story for us and just go with the newest Weezer album, as much as I love it. If you didn't have Say It Ain't So or Buddy Holly, I would have to Say It Ain't So for me to get it, right? So anyways, I should probably go. I have so much housework. Being a house husband is fun and rewarding, but also today is going to be a lot of work. And I probably did this pinball podcast just to push it off a bit because between yesterday's research and this morning, I'm probably into about four hours of this, but it was nostalgic and fun for me to think about some of my favorite bands from the 90s. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as me. Please go have yourself a wonderful day. Go play some pinball. Let's all get along. Let's have fun. But honestly, if you are like me and you came up in the 90s and you loved any of these bands, bug your distro to get on a list. If the list gets long enough, they'll tell Stern or they'll tell JJP. contact your friends that that work at pinball companies you're listening to this you have a friend at pinball company go you know even orby says blah blah blah band was number blank you know like uh weezer's number one you know he thinks that yeah i don't really mean what i'm saying i know my words don't count for much because there's so much bias and how much personally i like the bands but believe me i didn't include my five probably favorite bands from the 90s that i still listen to their music on a regular basis because all of them nowadays just wouldn't be commercially successful. They just wouldn't be. They're kind of like too mellow. I'm a bit older now, but man, when I'm having a beer or when I want to get nostalgic or if I'm going to go out to a concert, these are the bands that I would want to hear. Just like if I was playing a pinball machine, these are the bands I would want to hear. Hit me up. Hit me up and let me know if you think I'm wrong, you think I'm right. Send me a message over at pinballnerds at gmail.com. I did recently just get an email from a listener about a funhouse 2.0 but I've gone over an hour so I am going to update you on that one in the next one and who knows maybe I'll do a little bit of a mailbag okay where I'm talking about what happened feel free to send me a message either on Facebook or through Gmail or even just on my personal Facebook about what band you think we should come up and you know which band you would like to hear which band was I right about and which one did I miss out on besides that have yourself a rad day thank you so much for listening until next time Remember to eat, sleep, and breathe. Weezer.