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Kaneda Reacts To Predator After It Leaked 4 Hours Ago

Kaneda Pinball Podcasts YouTube Lives·video·17m 19s·analyzed·Jun 18, 2025
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TL;DR

Kaneda critiques Predator's weak launch assets, wishy-washy production limits, and lack of Arnold, but sees it as solid theme execution.

Summary

Kaneda reacts to the surprise leak of Predator Pinball by Pinball Brothers, analyzing the official reveal video and Q&A from Naps Arcade. He criticizes the insufficient launch assets (minimal gameplay footage), the ambiguous production numbers (claiming 800 units but leaving room for "more"), and the lack of Arnold Schwarzenegger likeness, while acknowledging decent artwork and theme execution. He expresses frustration with the company's vague FOMO strategy and positions Predator as a middle-tier entry compared to Harry Potter (best) and Dune.

Key Claims

  • Pinball Brothers' claim of 800 units with no hard limit is a 'sleazy' and unprofessional answer that avoids honest communication about production capacity.

    high confidence · Kaneda's direct response to Naps Arcade Q&A quote: 'Their current plan is to make 800 games. I don't like that answer... they just made it so they there it's not limited.'

  • Predator Pinball lacks Arnold Schwarzenegger likeness entirely and has no close-ups of Dutch (the character player represents), only voice clips.

    high confidence · Naps Arcade Q&A response: 'The only actor character not featuring at all in the game is Billy. We are also not allowed to use any close-ups of Dutch at all in the game.'

  • The official launch consisted only of a 30-second teaser video and 43-minute interview, insufficient to justify pre-orders.

    high confidence · Kaneda's frustration: 'That was the big launch. The 30 to 3 minute video is the big launch of this game. That's all we have to talk about. That's so boring to me.'

  • Harry Potter is 'obviously the best' of the recent batch of games (Portal, Kong, Dune, Predator) by a significant margin.

    high confidence · Kaneda: 'Potter is obviously the best of the bunch by a long shot. Absolutely. Potter is the most impressive game out of all of these.'

  • Predator would have been a better fit for Stern than John Wick or Venom, but requires Arnold Schwarzenegger to work thematically.

    medium confidence · Kaneda speculation: 'If Stern had made Predator, Arnold... The thing is, Arnold, you kind of need him.'

  • Predator Pinball has no production limit communicated—it's effectively made-to-order despite claiming 800 units.

    high confidence · Kaneda interpretation of Naps Arcade answer: 'Their production capacity is the limitation... basically they just made it so they there it's not limited.'

  • Community expectations for Predator were 'really low' going in due to it being a Pinball Brothers/American Pinball title.

    medium confidence · Kaneda opening: 'I think the expectations were really low considering it was an American Pinball game.'

Notable Quotes

  • “Get to the chopper, Predator.”

    Kaneda @ ~0:20 — Iconic Predator movie reference; sets casual, critical tone for reaction video.

  • “Like, what? Uh, let's see. No, they don't have it's a 43 minute interview about Predator. I'm not like I want like isn't there is there no video?”

    Kaneda @ ~2:00 — Expresses frustration at insufficient launch content and marketing strategy.

  • “Their current plan is to make 800 games. I I don't I don't like that answer.”

    Kaneda (quoting Naps Arcade Q&A) @ ~8:30 — Identifies the core production limit ambiguity that undermines FOMO strategy.

  • “It's a sleazy answer. It's not a professional answer. It's a copout answer. They should have just said we're just going to make to order.”

    Kaneda @ ~9:00 — Harsh critique of Pinball Brothers' communication strategy; suggests better alternative messaging.

  • “If you walked up to this, though, you would have no idea that this is the Arnold Schwarzenegger Predator movie. You'd have no idea.”

    Kaneda @ ~5:30 — Core concern: game's theme identity severely weakened by missing Arnold likeness.

  • “Potter is obviously the best of the bunch by a long shot. Absolutely. Potter is the most impressive game out of all of these.”

    Kaneda @ ~11:00 — Establishes Harry Potter as clear quality/feature benchmark; Predator measured against it.

  • “It's like a theme people would rather have is Predator, but a game that's executed better is Dune. Which one will sell more? We shall see.”

    Kaneda @ ~18:00 — Positions Predator in market dynamics; theme strength vs. execution quality tension.

  • “And I think everyone is uh just been spoiled with the amount that's in Harry Potter and I don't know, right? It's like it's it's making my head spin a little bit.”

    Kaneda @ ~11:20 — Suggests Harry Potter set new community expectations; Predator falls short by comparison.

Entities

KanedapersonPinball BrotherscompanyPredator PinballgameHarry PottergameDunegameNaps ArcadecompanyLoser Kid Pinballperson/channelOrricperson

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Pinball Brothers' ambiguous production limit (800+ units with no hard cap) signals lack of clear FOMO/scarcity strategy or honest made-to-order messaging.

    high · Naps Arcade Q&A: 'Their production capacity is the limitation.' Kaneda: 'It's a sleazy answer. It's not a professional answer. It's a copout answer.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Community demand is unclear due to lack of gameplay footage; consumers defaulting to 'wait and see' rather than pre-order.

    high · Kaneda: 'And I think everyone is going to want to see gameplay... with no FOMO and no limit on the amount they're going to make, it's an easy wait and see.'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Harry Potter established as clear quality benchmark; Predator positioned as middle-tier entry; theme strength (Predator > Dune) but execution weaker than Dune.

    high · Kaneda: 'Potter is obviously the best of the bunch by a long shot... It's like a theme people would rather have is Predator, but a game that's executed better is Dune.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Predator game positions player as Dutch (avoiding need for Arnold close-ups), but this narrative choice was made as licensing workaround, not intentional design decision.

    medium · Naps Arcade: 'when you play the game, you step into the shoes of Dutch and play the game and fight the Predator as him.' Kaneda skepticism: 'Interesting. Like maybe you can hear Arnold.'

  • ?

    leak_detection: Predator Pinball footage and Q&A details surfaced 4 hours before intended 3 PM embargo reveal, forcing early community discussion.

Topics

Launch strategy and marketing transparencyprimaryLicensing constraints and IP integrationprimaryProduction limits and FOMO strategyprimaryCompetitive game quality benchmarkingprimaryPinball Brothers business practices and communicationprimaryRecent game releases and market positioningsecondaryCommunity expectations and content gapssecondaryManufacturer messaging and consumer trustsecondary

Sentiment

negative(0.25)— Kaneda is critical of Pinball Brothers' launch strategy, vague production answers, and insufficient marketing content. However, he acknowledges the artwork is decent and the theme is solid, which prevents fully negative sentiment. He positions Predator as a middle-tier product that will likely sell respectably but lacks the ambition or clarity to be a standout.

Transcript

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Let me get rid of Audacity. That might be messing it up. How's that sound, everybody? Ah, eight minutes. I'm going to talk about this game. Did anything new come out? How's that sound? Is this better or is it still choppy? Get to the chopper, Predator. I mean, look, look, I'm glad we finally got to see the game. Uh, the launch was another botch launch, but you know what? I think people are pleasantly surprised by Predator. You know, I think the expectations were really low considering it was an American pinball game. Let's see if they've put anything up on their Facebook page that is worth looking at because it's 3:00 and what's this? it. Uh, well, what I'm not sure what the launch It's. It's 3:00 now. What is there somewhere to go to get stuff? Like, the game's been out now for hours. There's no audio now. I wasn't talking. If you guys were waiting for Is Is there's no audio now? is I I it it's registering my mic. Let me know if there's no audio. Kevin Loza kid has a video. All right, let's go to Kevin Loza Kid then. Kevin Loza kid where on Facebook. Let's go there. How do like where are like why aren't they give the assets to let's see Kevin Loza kid pinball. Let's watch it Um I don't where I don't is it on their YouTube? Is that where it is? Let's go there. Um, skip. It's an interview. I don't I don't want to listen to an interview. Um, yeah, but there they're YouTube videos and interview. Do they have a video of the game? I don't I don't want to listen to an interview about the game. I'm not going to watch that. Like, what? Uh, let's see. No, they don't have It's a 43 minute interview about Predator. I'm not like I want like isn't there is there no video? Is there no video of the screen of the call outs of like what's on the screen? I No, I don't I I don't like Are we just gonna watch the video? So there's that was the big launch. The 30 to 3 minute video is the big launch of this game. That's all we have to talk about. That's so boring to me. Let's see. We can watch it, but that's that's not like I thought there'd be like more. Like why are they hiding? Why are orders opening up before you can see more of the game? I I don't I don't like like I don't know. Does anyone have it? All right, let's go. Let's just go look at the game. I'm like I'm I'm tired of how these companies launch. Like it's just it's so stupid. It really is. Like you really have to be some level of stupid to buy these games before you information. All right, let's just go in a part of the world where there are no rules. Deep in the jungle where nothing that lives is safe, an elite rescue squad is being led by the ultimate warrior. But now they're up against the ultimate enemy. Pinball brothers present the Predator Pinball. An unforgiving widebody machine built to hunt and forged in the heart of cinematic legend. Face off with the deadly predator mechanical. Attack the camp and get to the chopper. Get to the chopper. Deadly ramps, brutal shots, and fierce combos. Welcome to a world of hurt. The Predator Pinball from Pinball Brothers. When whenever I hear like from Pinball Brothers, it feels like Rick and Morty commercial. two brothers who are making a pinball machine about Predator without Arnold and it's widebody action that's going to kill you in your seat and yeah it's made by two brothers who think they can make a game as good they're they're just two brothers you know it's like I there's something weird about that um yeah the video doesn't really capture much intensity at all the Predator mech looks pretty pretty bad to be honest considering like the alien eating the ball was at least a moment. Um the Gatling gun is neat. It's It's obviously another shooter lane out there on the left side. Uh but again I I think think I think everyone from what I'm reading is it likes the artwork. I think Oric did a good job on making you know it's got no assets. So, it's like for for not having any of the actors from the film, they did a good job, I think, of creating that jungle vibe feel to it. It's I think if you walked up to this, though, you would have no idea that this is the Arnold Schwarzenegger Predator movie. You'd have no idea. You'd have no idea it's Predator 1. I I think it it's it's a little like, you know, it's, you know, I mean, I don't know. Harry Potter's got everything from the movies. This has nothing on the game right now. So, it's going to come down to the uh the screen and how much of Dutch's they they have clips from the movie. They've said that. So, I think it's going to be very much like Alien without Ripley. Um but based on that video, not enough to order one yet, right? And I think everyone's going to want to see gameplay. I think everyone is uh just been spoiled with the amount that's in Harry Potter and I don't know, right? It's like it's it's making my head spin a little bit. We go from Portal to Kong to Dune to Potter to Predator. All of these games, all of them. Uh there's really no instant masterpiece. Potter is obviously the best of the bunch by a long shot. Absolutely. Potter is the most impressive game out of all of these. And I think they're going to fix the Potter code. And I think Potter's obviously the winner in in this new batch of games. Predator doesn't need to beat Potter. It just needs to sell around. I don't know. Did they even announce how many they're going to make? Nap just posted a bunch of details. All right, let's go to Nap's Arcade and see what cuz cuz Nap Jason's a he he's not going to scoop the embargo time of 3 p.m. So, let's go there now. Oh, man. My internet is slow today. Okay. All right. Let's Let's see what we got here. Let's share screen. Uh, Naps Arcade. All right. Predator reveal. I need my glasses. Okay. So, who in this hobby doesn't love new pinball day? Okay. All right. How All right. We got a Q&A going on here. Let's make it a little bigger because I can't see. All right. So, we've got how did you choose Predator as a theme? Okay. Who designed the layout? All right, I Let's keep going. Is there only one version of Predator? However, you have the option of adding a trophy package that includes All right. So, you can you can trim it up. You can add all this stuff. All right. I don't Okay, it's got the fast boards. Favorite feature in the game. There are so many things I love in this game. We're really poured our hearts into it and is fully packed. But to pick something that stands out, it's the Predator itself. The main character and the mech of the game. He moves in all directions have focused on making those fights with him as exciting as possible. Apart from that, we are really proud of the overall feeling of the game. All right. Did you have any licensing restrictions? Just say yes. No, Arnold. We have been able to use everything from the movie in terms of violence, weapons, blood, gore. So, there has been no restrictions regarding policies. And we are super happy about this because making a Predator game with no restrictions on things would have been almost impossible. It just would not work. We also have zero restrictions using most of the crew in the game. The only actor character not featuring at all in the game is Billy. We are also not allowed to use any close-ups of Dutch see at all in the game below from. Okay. However, this fits the context of the game well because when you play the game, you step into the shoes of Dutch and play the game and fight the predator as him. Interesting. like maybe you can hear Arnold. Let's see what he says here. He's in the game, but he's not featured in closeups and does not play a significant part. But we are looking at the possibility of adding more clips since we know this is something many want to see and ask for. Even if it does not really fit the narrative of the game as you are playing the game as Dutch, we agree it would be a good thing. This if this will happen or not is beyond me to say for the moment. All right. Production is already ongoing and the plan is to start shipping games in mid August. There are a few parts that have long lead time like the molded parts. Is there a limit? Our production capacity is the limitation. Their current plan is to make 800 games. I I don't I don't like that answer. Well, what does that mean? What a what a what a copout answer that is. Yes, there are loads of games to come. You know, I I I'm just like like what? Like seriously, like basically they just made it so they there it's not limited. Only limit is the amount we can make. Like what is this with this wishy-washy crap? Like I'm tired of this. If you want to there's no FOMO then just either make it limited or don't. like don't don't wait for customer demand to then change the goalpost on everybody and you know pinball brothers at this price you need to bake in some value and some ongoing demand and the only way you're going to create that is by limiting the number of games you make and then you're going to give an answer like that I'm just going to say this I don't I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to support companies that are that that's a sleazy answer. There's no other way around it. It's a sleazy answer. It's not a professional answer. It's a copout answer. They They should have just said we're we have no we have no limit. We're just going to make to order. That That would have been honest. But what they're trying to do is say 800 or more. We don't know. Like it's just like so annoying. Like Like come on. We see right through this stuff. Yeah. Exactly, Pat. It's like then then you're going to have like So why not just make like 300 with all the trims for more money and then like 500 regular editions? But now you've just got this like there's just going to be a random number of like randomly customized games. So fine, it's just made to order. Like that's the honest answer. It's a made to order game. But I don't know. I don't know. I I just I think we all want to see more. We want to see how the movie is put into the game. Um and that hopefully will come soon. But overall, not as bad as people were expecting, but also not a game that's on the same level as a Potter or a King Kong. Like, you know that people, right? Like, you're you're not going to get it's for it's just something different. The theme is great. If you were to ask me, I think this theme would have been a better pick for Stern to make it instead of John Wick, instead of Venom. If Stern had made Predator, Arnold. The thing is, Arnold, you kind of need him. You do kind of need him. The hole you're playing is Dutch. Nah. Ah, we're gonna we're gonna see the maybe the biceps handshake, but not him in the scene. No close-ups of Arnold, whatever that means. All right, everybody. I got to go uh do some work, but just wanted to say hi. I will do a show on this game. I just want to see more. I just was expecting more footage of it. game reveal, 15 second teaser and 30 minutes of talking. Yeah. No, it's it's again like this is not enough to get people to pull the trigger. And with no FOMO and no limit on the amount they're going to make, it's an easy wait and see. It's just an easy wait and see. And I think as you experience more of these new games, I I do find it hard. Um I don't know. I just don't know if this one's gonna find a home. I I still think it might out sell Dune. We'll see. I don't know. Dune's obviously a nicer package than this. Like, let's let's face it. Dune has all the characters in it. Dune has a much more impressive mech. Dune has a nicer overall, but I I think people like the Predator theme more. So, it's going to be interesting, right? It's like a theme people would rather have is Predator, but a game that's executed better is Dune. Which one will sell more? We shall see. All right, everybody. Peace out.
  • Without FOMO and production limits clearly defined, consumers have no incentive to pre-order and will simply wait for more information.

    high confidence · Kaneda conclusion: 'with no FOMO and no limit on the amount they're going to make, it's an easy wait and see. It's just an easy wait and see.'

  • “Predator doesn't need to beat Potter. It just needs to sell around. I don't know. Did they even announce how many they're going to make?”

    Kaneda @ ~10:30 — Reasonable market positioning, but immediately reveals production numbers are unclear.

  • “It's just it's so stupid. It really is. Like you really have to be some level of stupid to buy these games before you get information.”

    Kaneda @ ~3:30 — Strong criticism of pre-order model when companies withhold launch details.

  • Portal
    game
    King Konggame
    Aliengame
    John Wickgame
    Venomgame
    Arnold Schwarzeneggerperson
    Pinball FXgame

    high · Kaneda title: 'After It Leaked 4 Hours Ago'; search for Naps Arcade before official embargo.

  • ?

    licensing_signal: No Arnold Schwarzenegger likeness or close-ups permitted; only voice lines; Billy character excluded entirely. Severe IP constraint on game identity.

    high · Naps Arcade Q&A: 'The only actor character not featuring at all in the game is Billy. We are also not allowed to use any close-ups of Dutch at all.'

  • $

    market_signal: Insufficient launch content (30-second teaser + 43-minute interview) perceived as inadequate to justify pre-orders.

    high · Kaneda: 'That was the big launch. The 30 to 3 minute video is the big launch of this game. That's all we have to talk about. That's so boring to me.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Orric credited as artist for Predator; created jungle aesthetic without actor likenesses. Quality acknowledged by Kaneda but insufficient to overcome licensing gaps.

    medium · Kaneda: 'I think everyone from what I'm reading is it likes the artwork. I think Orric did a good job on making you know it's got no assets.'

  • $

    market_signal: Predator launch price not explicitly discussed by Kaneda, but no cost-benefit mention suggests pricing concern may be secondary to content/transparency issues.

    low · No explicit pricing discussion in reaction; focus on launch assets and FOMO strategy instead.

  • ?

    product_concern: Predator Predator mech described as 'pretty bad'; lacks intensity compared to Alien's Xenomorph eating ball mechanic.

    medium · Kaneda: 'The Predator mech looks pretty pretty bad to be honest considering like the Alien eating the ball was at least a moment.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community expectations were 'really low' for American Pinball/Pinball Brothers title, but product perception is 'pleasantly surprised' rather than impressed.

    medium · Kaneda: 'I think people are pleasantly surprised by Predator. You know, I think the expectations were really low considering it was an American Pinball game.'