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Episode 203 – Incorrect Games

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 40m·analyzed·Apr 7, 2023
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt covers Texas Pinball Festival games and Stranger Things licensing drama.

Summary

Slam Tilt hosts discuss their experience at Texas Pinball Festival, covering newly released games including Foo Fighters, Scooby-Doo, Godfather, Final Resistance, Galactic Tank Force, and Pulp Fiction. The episode features gameplay impressions, design criticisms, and community observations about the growing festival crowds and production issues with certain machines.

Key Claims

  • Stern issued a public denial about Stranger Things licensing after George Gomez teased more games coming on the Free Play podcast

    high confidence · Bruce describes Stern's official statement contradicting George Gomez's comments about Stranger Things returning

  • Texas Pinball Festival experienced record-breaking attendance, with venue capacity concerns

    high confidence · Hosts discuss the show being 'extremely crowded' with 'pre-pandemic level crowds and then some,' described as 'the biggest crowd I've ever seen there'

  • Foo Fighters Pro model has a drilled hole for the ball saver that is covered with spring steel

    high confidence · Bruce confirms checking on Zach's Pro model and finding the hole underneath the covering

  • Foo Fighters left ramp plastic is thin and will break due to poor design angles

    medium confidence · Multiple posts report breakage; Zach confirms left ramp designed poorly with sharp angles that cause wall impact

  • Scooby-Doo plays insanely easy with very long game times, creating bottlenecks despite high player interest

    medium confidence · Bruce observes seven machines with lines never reaching within ten people due to game length and ease

  • Godfather has best flippers of any JJP show game Bruce has played

    medium confidence · Steph's direct statement: 'by far the best flippers of any jjp show game i have ever played'

  • Galactic Tank Force's tank robot feature was not shown in the trailer

    high confidence · Bruce notes tank contains robot that comes up after repeated hits, 'they didn't even show'

  • Galactic Tank Force has significant airball issues with stand-up targets below tank

    high confidence · Bruce describes 'insane air balling' where balls clear flippers entirely; Spooky confirmed they're addressing this

Notable Quotes

  • “Did you see that part though it's in high demand bruce i know you hate the game people are high i agree with that totally”

    Ron @ ~10:30 — Captures the irony of Stern's contradiction after George Gomez's leak about Stranger Things demand

  • “If you want like the premium, it's like, damn it, the pro art works better.”

    Steph @ ~30:45 — Common observation about Foo Fighters Pro/Premium art differentiation favoring Pro aesthetically

  • “by far the best flippers of any jjp show game i have ever played”

    Steph @ ~45:20 — High praise for Godfather's flipper quality as distinguishing feature of Jersey Jack design

  • “I'm pretty sure the air ball effect is what got me my Cayenne Stucky.”

    Bruce @ ~62:00 — Humorous confirmation of Galactic Tank Force airball severity affecting gameplay

  • “It's turning into line con.”

    Ron @ ~22:15 — Commentary on Texas Pinball Festival overcrowding impacting playable experience

  • “That was like a dick tease”

    Bruce @ ~10:45 — Characterization of George Gomez's Stranger Things announcement contradicted by Stern's denial

  • “Final Resistance... I loved it.”

    Bruce @ ~55:30 — Strong endorsement of Multimorphic's latest game despite initial confusion

  • “I think they're going to sell more than you think. So you think it'll be their biggest seller? Possibly.”

    Bruce/Steph @ ~68:00 — Suggests Galactic Tank Force could outperform Spooky's previous bestsellers like Hot Wheels

Entities

George GomezpersonStern PinballcompanyTexas Pinball FestivaleventFoo FightersgameScooby-DoogameGodfathergameGalactic Tank Forcegame

Signals

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Foo Fighters Pro art design receives higher praise than Premium despite Pro being lower tier; indicates pricing model misalignment

    medium · Steph's observation: 'If you want like the premium, it's like, damn it, the pro art works better'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Spooky Pinball's Galactic Tank Force anticipated to sell more units than previous bestsellers (Hot Wheels, Houdini)

    medium · Bruce predicts 'they're going to sell more than you think' and suggests it could be 'their biggest seller'; hosts debate Hot Wheels vs Houdini sales velocity

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Godfather's theme translation to pinball questioned; New York accent callouts described as painful; film-to-game adaptation effectiveness debated

    medium · Hosts critique 'weird thing they do where they show a clip and it dissolves into newspaper'; note accent 'gets old'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Foo Fighters Pro design compensates for missing upper playfield by distributing premium features across single playfield; rule complexity results from translation

    medium · Steph notes multiball confusion with blue/red shot combinations; Bruce explains Area 51 compensations required fewer ramp hits

  • ?

    event_signal: Texas Pinball Festival experiencing record attendance with capacity and crowd management challenges

    high · Hosts describe 'biggest crowd I've ever seen there' and suggest venue needs expansion; some games had impenetrable walls of people

Transcript

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0:00
Getting ready to eat. Guys, what's your favorite part of the bird? Well, Loader, actually, I prefer the stuffing.
0:06
Because, you know, it's like this stuff, and then you stuff it in the turkey's butt, and then you pull the stuff out, and then you eat it, and then the stuff comes out of your butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's a damnedest thing, you know? And then after it comes out of your butt, oh, there's all kinds of stuff you can do with it. You know, I mean, you can take it. Leave us? That's enough. Yeah, I'm sorry.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Hey, I like that. I'm world famous in Poland. You're the other host, Bruce. I am the other host. Uh-huh.
0:57
But we have a guest. No, we have a third host. Oh, she's a third host now? Third host. Wow. Congratulations, Steph. I didn't know you got a promotion. Hi, Steph. Definition of a co-host for the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. Noun. One of two or more people who host something, such as a television show, together. It's always like you're telling me that Ron has been wrong for 200 episodes. The only reason that he's been calling you co-host and not calling himself co-host is because you don't say, well, you can say, I am co-hosting this. But he didn't say he was co-hosting. Because he's always introducing the podcast. Not always. He's almost always introducing the podcast. Okay, there you go. I'll take that one, but yes. So basically, whenever Ron introduces, he can say, I'm your host, and then, and this is my co-host, which is a synonym of other host. It means the same thing, Bruce Nightingale. And then, Bruce, if you did the intro, you could be like, and this is my co-host, Ron. You are co-host. It's never been a power inequality. It's always been on the same. No, I don't feel equal. I feel like I was, you know, very discriminated. Enough. Discriminated. Welcome to episode 203. We're just moving right along, aren't we? So a bunch of stuff has happened since episode 202, Bruce. What was that, Bob? Well, something that I and Steph went to. Really? Where'd you go to? You went to the Pin Fools tournament at RPC.
Pulp Fiction
game
Final Resistancegame
Ron Hallettperson
Bruce Nightingaleperson
Stephperson
Rochester Pinball Collective (RPC)organization
Kevin Manningperson
Bowen Kerinsperson
Christopher Franchiperson
Steve Bowenperson
Spooky Pinballcompany
Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
Zachperson
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licensing_signal: George Gomez leaked Stranger Things renewal on Free Play podcast; Stern issued public denial claiming no current license, creating credibility gap

high · Bruce describes Stern's official statement contradicting George's tease, noting 'bad tease' and suggesting internal miscommunication

  • ?

    announcement: Multiple new games revealed at Texas Pinball Festival including Foo Fighters (JJP), Scooby-Doo (Stern), Godfather (JJP), Final Resistance (Multimorphic), Galactic Tank Force (Spooky), Pulp Fiction (Stern)

    high · Extensive play-testing and discussion of all titles; hosts provide gameplay impressions and design analysis

  • ?

    product_concern: Galactic Tank Force has significant airball issues with stand-up targets below tank; Spooky confirmed addressing for post-production

    high · Bruce describes 'insane air balling' with balls clearing flippers; confirms airball effect caused physical damage (Stucky hit plastic)

  • ?

    product_concern: Foo Fighters Pro/Premium left ramp plastic is thin and will break; multiple player reports and designer confirmation of poor angles

    high · Bruce cites multiple Pinside posts and Zach's assessment that 'left ramp was designed poorly' with sharp angles causing wall impact

  • ?

    technology_signal: Final Resistance (Multimorphic P3) features raised side buttons which create ergonomic challenges for players with small hands

    medium · Steph notes difficulty reaching side buttons; suggests community need for 'I am a child and have tiny hands mod'

    • 2:39
    Yes, we did both play in that, Bruce. Yes, so you went to it. There we go. Got it. Nailed that one. Woo-hoo! The RPC. Okay. Yeah, that was just this past April 1st. Where is the Rochester Pinball Collective, Bruce? I don't know where it is. Steph, where is the Rochester Pinball Collective that you volunteer your time at? It's 349 West Commercial Street, Suite, what is it, 2965 or 2569? Nope, you had it right the first time. Okay, cool. Where is it? It's above the Ferrari Pizza Bar in the Piano Works building. And where's that in the town of? East Rochester, New York. There you go. 1-triple-4-3. Or is it 1-triple-4-5? It's 1-triple-4-5. We're just going to grill all the people on this show. Yes. You're so mean. I didn't say it, luckily. I was like, hey. Yes. And you know what? Zach didn't win it. No, he did not. Let's just have some applause there. Kevin kicked ass. Kevin Manning from Buffalo won. Yes. He did very, very well. He was on El Fuego, on fire. On fire. So congratulations. Congratulations. You are the champion. Who won B Division, Bruce? I don't even know. It was Alec. Oh, is that? Alan. Alan, yes. Who listens to the show and he's like, you dick. Mr. Dick. Yes. Mr. Dick to you. Yes.
    4:01
    Okay. Other than that, where do we go, Bruce? You went to Zach's house to play Foo Fighters. Okay. Other than, okay. Not wrong. I'm nailing this. Two for two, baby. We went to the Texas Pinball Festival. Yeah, I didn't go. So I'm not worried about that. And the misdirection is over. Yeah, I know. I had a couple more, too. Yeah, a couple more bits. Yeah, I'm cutting the bit short.
    4:23
    Because, yeah, we brought Steph on. I want another opinion. Opinion on? Not just listening to me about all these games I played. I want someone else.
    4:36
    So let's talk about other things before TBS. Why did you bring it up then? We'll get to it. Did you know Bond's 60th doesn't have a knocker? No knockers? I just couldn't believe that. It's like, really? They couldn't do a knocker? $20,000 and they couldn't freaking do a knocker? Yeah. That just worked for me. That's pitiful. That's a fail in my book. What else do I have here in my notes? I don't have many notes here other than TPF, but I have, oh, he had a funny thing to happen with Stranger Things. It broke. No. I think it was on the Free Play podcast, which can be heard on the Pinball Network, which is also where Silver Ball Chronicles. Oh, my God. It took him only fucking five minutes. A new fucking record.
    5:19
    But George Gomez basically said, more stranger things. More stranger things are coming. Is he going to be just a prose? Well, here's the problem. he said that and then stern came out and said good morning u.s stern dealers there have been rumors circulating on the internet that we are running stranger things again yes rumors started by george gomez saying it on the podcast this is not true we understand there's high demand and we've worked on obtaining the license again for quite some time however we currently do not have the license and if that changes we'll let you know if it gets put in the schedule for next year so bad tease that was like a dick tease i wonder if they were working on it and then and george said it and they're like no no no don't say that don't do it no no but did you see that part though it's in high demand bruce i know you hate the game people are high i agree with that totally so steph what do you think of stranger things i mean i think it's a perfectly fine game. Would you buy one?
    6:26
    It's not high on my want list. Booyah! That doesn't mean anything. No, I have a very small I would buy that list. But it doesn't make the cut, so guess what? It's out of there! I mean, technically Godzilla doesn't make my cut. Because you have one in the RPC. This is true.
    6:48
    Let's see. What else do we have? Rush accessories. Yes. The topper is a little going out of our fucking mind. Oh, what do they cost again? The topper is like $1,600.
    7:07
    And the expression lighting is what? I don't remember. I think it's like $500. Yeah, that's actually a good deal. I'd rather have the expression lighting than the topper. Okay. The side armor just has the dude on it from 2112. Yeah. Nothing super fancy there. And I never go for the shooter, the lit shooter knobs. No. Because they're, like, freaking huge. I mean, especially on a game where you have to. Huge Rochester. Huge. On a game where you have to soft plunge to hit skill shot, that's kind of. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah. It really sucks. So, yeah, I wouldn't get that. No, no, no. But expression lighting, definitely. And the topper is cool. I like the topper. No, I like the topper. Not for $1,600.
    7:50
    But it's got a clock. Ooh. And it's got gears. Ooh. And the albums are on there. Ooh, ooh. Exactly. And it has shiny things on the albums.
    8:03
    Exactly. Shiny things. Yeah. And that and a pound of 20s will still give you a pound of 20s. Okay, so Bruce is not... Not for $1,600. It's stupid. It's stupid! Okay, wait a sec. I buy myself a premium Rush for, what, $9,500. You did? No, no. If I did, now one-sixth of that price I need to pay for just for a topper. Think about that logic.
    8:33
    Okay. That is – It's a luxury. Boy. Wait a second. Steph, would you pay $1,600 for cruise control in your car if it didn't have it? because that's considered luxury, would you? Or would you not say that? I might not. See? So you would rather skimp on that, but maybe get a good topper. I mean, $1,600 to one person is clearly not $1,600 to another person. I agree with that, too. There are people to whom it's like, Oh, a $1,600 topper to make my thing even more valuable and cool and to make my toy even shinier? Cool, I can swing that. Let's do it. And then there's other people that are like, Oh, my God, my rent. That is my rent. I think people are saying, I'm going to buy the $1,600 topper because it's going to be $3,000 in the next two years. That's exactly what they're thinking. That might be some people's impetus, yeah. Did they say it like that? Oh, good. I think so, man, because I'm going to make some money here. It's just, come on, guys. Okay. It's a different segment of the market, one that we do not intersect with very much. They're one-sixth. Just keep on pounding down to your head. So the question is, did I get any accessories? You probably got the lighting. Yeah, I did. You had to have. And I got the topper. Oh, you fucking goober. Wow. Thank you.
    9:59
    Hey, you got the topper? You got the topper. And guess what? You ever remember those old cartoons where it said, you know, the head of the donkey and it said jackass?
    10:09
    Here's your sign. Or sucker. It would change into a sucker. Sucker, yes. Yes. I got you. Did you actually pay $2,100 extra? I wouldn't mind the $500. The $500 is a good investment. It makes the game interaction better. You actually paid for the topper? Yeah. Oh, my – I mean it could make the game interaction better too. How? It has gears and they move. Okay. You know what? I should probably shut up. and they show what albums you have for the combos i believe yeah it makes your interaction better just like steph said again rush accessories now available what bruce do there for a while rush out and get them or rush to don't get them i don't know let's see what else do i got here um that's about it so Okay, we're done. See you later. Bye.
    11:12
    Texas Pinball Festival. Let's do it. There's a bunch of new games there. I will say, I think it was extremely crowded there. That's what I heard. It was ridiculous. I think we have got back to pre-pandemic level crowds there, and then some. I think this is the biggest crowd I've ever seen there. Now, do they need a bigger place or do they have to start limiting sales of tickets maybe? No, bigger place. They need a bigger place, which ain't going to happen. I think they already have the dates for next year's and I believe it's at the same place. So it's just so crowded. How long did you wait for games, guys, to play on?
    11:55
    Well, yeah, there was a lot of lines, a lot of lines. It's turning into line con. So, Bruce, why don't you get us started? is pick a game, pick a game, pick a new game, and we can get into it. Foo Fighters. That didn't take overly long to get into because they had a ton of them at the Marco booth. Okay, what did they have, pros? Pros and premiums. Oh, they had premiums? Okay, good. And they had one of them hooked to the speaker system they had there, so you could actually hear it because it was hard to hear games, individual games, because it was obscenely loud. When you would walk in, it would just hit you. like you could feel the air of the sound hit you as you walked in the room. Yeah, I have some videos of some of the new games, and I was going through them last night. I'm going to post a caption advising people to turn off the sound because it's just a wall of sound. It is unreal.
    12:51
    That was good. It was a successful show, I'd say, based on the amount of attendance. Foo Fighters was good. I liked it. Would you like to try it? Did you play the premiums? I played premiums in the Pro. And? Which is better? They both shoot good.
    13:07
    The thing about the Pro is the Area 51 multiball, it starts if you just hit the right ramp a number of times.
    13:14
    The premium is more, I think you have to hit a loop or whatever, and then you've got to hit the Dorset Diverter, and you've got to hit a target. Yeah, the Pro is basically, the big negatives of the Pro is that it's basically adapting what was intended for the premium as best it can. but it's compensating for the fact that the upper playfield has a lot of significance for say area 51 and for i think jackpot boosts and that's why you only hit the right ramp like five times to get area 51 instead of having to do the upper playfield loop and the boosting jackpots are suddenly every shot on foo instead of just on the upper playfield i guess but because they're having the challenge of translating shots on an upper play field to shots on one play field that are still fun and achievable described it much better than i could i'm not biased at all the food pros have um they actually do have the hole for the um the ball saver it's not drilled any differently really yeah i wonder if that'll be a kit they got a piece of spring steel like over it that covers it up, but I double-checked on Zach. Zach has a pro, has a Foo Fighter pro. And I put my finger underneath there and got, yep, the hole is there.
    14:38
    I knew you would say that. I just put him on the tee and you just take, yes. I mean, to be fair, that was some low-hanging fruit. That was low-hanging fruit. Speaking of low-hanging, oh, just kidding. I had no other... I failed there. I'd say it was the best game of the ones I played, the new ones. I would rank it number one. Okay.
    15:03
    Were there any negatives to Foo? I mean, the aforementioned pro-premium translation, Ron, I think you can attest to this. It's a bit confusing when you get into one of the multiballs and suddenly all of the shots are blue, and then there's red shots and you don't know what's happening. Yeah, you get into a multiball, and then you hit the right ramp while you're in multiball, and all of a sudden another multi-ball starts. And that wouldn't be as confusing on the premium, I think, because of the rule set, how the rule set translates to the intended upper play field. Or at least that's the impression that I'm getting.
    15:42
    Yeah. And the pro art is better. Oh, yeah. That's what always happens. If you want like the premium, it's like, damn it, the pro art works better.
    15:52
    Those are my only negatives, really. Oh, and I guess I've seen some posts from multiple people that the left ramp, the plastic that's over it, it's going to break. Like if it hasn't broken, it's going to break. Yes. It's too thin. Well, and speaking to Zach, he thinks the left ramp was designed poorly. Ooh. Because basically it just goes straight up and the wall just plows into the plastic almost every time you hit the ramp. So it's going to break. It also whips around crazy fast sometimes, to the point where... The angle is almost like, what's it called, Johnny Mnemonic almost. Kind of, yeah. But I think it's even sharper than that because it's a little closer than Johnny. And a little far over to the left, so it's going to be steeper angles. More acute angles, I guess. Acute? Acute. I love Johnny Mnemonic. Really? I never knew that. I'm sorry. Who knew you liked Johnny Mnemonic? I know. Johnny Manamanon. Okay. Manamanon. Okay, give us another game, Bruce.
    17:01
    We Scooby-Doo, because you guys really haven't seen it yourselves. No, we have not. Yes. They had, if I remember by my count. Here we go. This is going to be the fun part. They had seven Scooby-Doos there, and the line never got within like ten people. It was an impenetrable wall of people. I could barely see the Scooby-Doo from where I was. They had a mystery machine there, like the van. Mm-hmm. Everything I've heard, Scooby-Doo plays insanely easy. So you never played it? And people just played it forever, and the lines didn't really move. Because it's a long-ass playing game. But you guys never played it? Nope. Neither of you? Nope. I did not play it. So you both failed for this show. My dad got to play it. Okay, and what did he think? Why don't we have him on? I don't remember what he said. Wow. It wasn't like, oh my god, this is tremendous or anything. But it wasn't like, oh my god, this is terrible either. They had two TNAs. They were always free. I played those. Surprise, surprise. Did I say that out loud again? Oh, I like TNA. TNA's good.
    18:04
    Okay, what else? Okay, what else do we have here? How about Godfather? Yeah. I like that. Wow, Steph, there's some encouraging news. Yep. Played that. How many multiballs did you get? Yes.
    18:21
    So you must have played the Corleone, whatever, what's the name of the family? Corleone. Yes. No, what happened was I was playing with three other people and said three other people had to bail. Oh, God. Because they had to do a panel or a tournament thing or something. So suddenly I have to finish up these three games and I feel like an asshole standing there with a four-player game. Like, great. and I couldn't stop getting multi-balls because everybody had advanced to one of the multi-balls at least and there are at least two if not three multi-balls that are about the same depth to achieve in the game so you have like the Sicily multi-ball, the compound multi-ball and the turf war multi-ball and they're all different but relatively easy to hit shots So I kept getting multiballs to the extent that because it was a four-player game, I started having flashbacks to the GNR game that Ron, Zach, and I were on at the co-op. Did you get the multiball multiball? That's very important. Multiball, multiball! I don't know, but like – and it sucks that that was my impression, and I think I was sort of influenced by the fact that I was trying to rush through like three or four players. but otherwise the game played a lot faster than you'd expect all the habit trails were a lot smaller than you'd think they look like big things but they're actually pretty fine and how about the habit trail that goes to the right in lane wicked fast yeah and it hits a target it has an in-lane target like foo fighters does yeah and if you're not ready it comes down hits target goes right down the end lane and if you're too slow you miss it yeah the game was wicked fast which was really cool i didn't hate it i mean i i would probably play it again um so long as i was aiming for something that wasn't three multi balls in a row in a competition just because that gets stressful in its own way by far the best flippers of any jjp show game i have ever played Okay, well, that's a good sign. Yeah. First game, I played with my dad. First game, we didn't really do anything.
    20:47
    Second game, I had at least four different multi-balls. Everything was lit. My dad said I was hitting jackpots and supers, and that was good.
    20:59
    Yeah, I hit that guy, the dude with the gun. I hit him a lot. That seems to be the shot they give you for newbies. Hit him, and stuff happens. Yeah, he's the bash toy, and he leads to a multi-ball if you hit him enough, I think, because that's where turf war multi-ball ends up. Looking at the game, it's like, where's Abe Vigoda at? And I realized Abe Vigoda is only on the CE.
    21:22
    Mmm. Oh, so disappointed. So you got to buy a CE, Ron. Yeah, if I want my Abe Vigoda. Yes. The gauntlet has been thrown.
    21:31
    Yard's good. I mean, it shoots all right. I was in multi-ball a lot. I wasn't crazy about the call outs.
    21:40
    The New York accent is kind of painful. Yeah, it gets old. And the weird thing they do where they show a clip, and then the clip kind of dissolves into a newspaper. So it goes from like really good quality to grainy.
    21:54
    And they do that with the clips. It's kind of, I wasn't really feeling that. I'm sure it's super deep, and those who like a lot of stuff they do in a game will be very happy.
    22:05
    Yeah. I just don't know if the theme fits itself great to pinball. Or at least excitement. It's not really, you know, it's not like Goodfellas or something. That would have been interesting. That would have been really good. You get the car exploding whenever you get your ball saved on the drop target that goes back to the shooter line, I think. Is that Michael's wife dying over and over? Yep. Okay.
    22:32
    Yikes. Poor Michael's wife. I can't remember her name from the movie. Wow. Okay. Final Resistance. Final Resi... Oh, yes.
    22:45
    I loved it. You loved it? I loved it. P3, you're buying it, huh? No. The Judy Cannon thing go fast. Goes really fast. Yeah, when I saw this thing, originally when I saw the trailer and I saw a stream, I think Buffalo Pinball streamed it, I'm like, it's TNA 2.0. It's the same exact music style. It's the same voice. I think it's like the Siri woman or something. It's generic. It's public domain. You can use the voice. So it's literally the same voice that's in TNA.
    23:16
    It's fast. Is it enjoyable? Is it fun? Love the light show. I like the concept of instead of all the stuff moving on the screen, it's like the play field is on the screen. It's more like playing visual pinball, honestly, than a typical multimorphic game, which that's kind of how I got into pinball to begin with was visual pinball. So, and it had features that I'm did had no idea what to do with. So I'd have to play it more like I was getting power ups or something. So I had like an inventory that was building, but I didn't use them. I think it said you hit one of the other buttons to use them, but I didn't know like when I'm supposed to use them or how to select one.
    23:55
    It was simple, fast in your face. I liked it. Yeah, it was, It was definitely fast. I feel like my opinion is not developed enough because it was at the very tail end of the show that I played it, so I was probably zonked out. You know, being up 8.45 two days in a row when I'm supposed to be on vacation is kind of draining. You chose that. I know. I know. The 845 to 1 a.m. life is something I chose, but that didn't stop me from being tired. And all I could hit was this one scoop, and it just kept happening. And it was like, okay, this is cool. It would have started me a Ferengi multiball if this was Star Trek TNG, but it wasn't. And so my experience was mostly, oh, I can hit this scoop a lot. But the people I was with playing at Ray and Jermaine, they were having a really good time. And we had the benefit of having Bowen talking us through the ideas of the game And I know Ray and Jermaine were they seemed pretty impressed I mean I was the shots that I could hit felt good But again, most of the shots that I could hit ended up being scoop. So my opinion needs a little more experience to germinate and become a proper opinion plant.
    25:20
    That's Bowen Currens, the rules guy for the game. And yeah, I talked to him. He called it TNA 2.0. So there you go.
    25:30
    I liked it. And if you have a P3, it's great because you don't have a module. Yeah, if I had a P3, yeah, I would have already ordered this module. Okay, that's good. How much are the modules now? Are they $4,000 now, I think? I think, well, I thought it was $3,000. Well, I thought the original ones were $3,000. I think they've gone up in price also. The only thing is it's got the raised buttons on the side. I know. Which for me with my little Donald Trump hands, you know, I have trouble hitting all the buttons there. You and me both with my tiny wire, my hands, the small hands. Yeah, I'm like, because I get the flipper button, but to hit any of the other ones, I'm like reaching down.
    26:06
    Does P3 have like a help? I am a child and have tiny hands mod because I would really benefit from that. And apparently I'm not the only one. Yeah, it's a separate, like it's not, it's not directly in the cabinet. There's another piece, like a wood that it goes in. So it's raised, which makes it further out, too. Gives your muscles a really good and somewhat uncomfortable stretch in the hand. Yes. $3,400, that kit is. Weird Al is $35,000.
    26:38
    Okay, what else? What next game? We got Galactic Tank Force. Galactic Tank Force, yes. I went to the seminar. Yes, and? The game came in. I know, it drove in. It drove in. But that was a special model they just did for the show. It doesn't actually do that. I'm sorry. But, yeah, it rolled in. And I know we had discussions of whether we thought the back box was motorized or not. It's not. That's a shame. I was bummed. I was hoping it would hit a button and the thing came up. But it doesn't. To tell you the truth, I like the regular cabinet. Yeah. I know the whole tank thing is the gimmick, but I thought the regular cabinet looked perfectly fine.
    27:23
    And they have standardized on the cabinet now. It looks more like a stern. Yeah, it does. It doesn't have the curvy stuff anymore. It doesn't have the LCD is like in the back glass. It doesn't do that now. It has just like the speaker panel. It almost looks like the same angle. It looks very similar to like a stern. But they had a little issue with the games when they were at the show, didn't they? Well, let's see. This game is actually, they had one outside the hall, so you could actually hear it. And yeah, it's really goofy, which I like. I'm a goofy type of person. Yeah, I'm kind of in love with the theme. They went full camp. You're trying to save the ice cream. One of the banners that they had had like, because it's supposed to be like a campy kids TV show from the 60s or whatever. and they had fake merchandise drawn on it, like Franchi drew a Captain Kaya in an action figure, I would unironically consider buying one of those. Lunchboxes. They had lunchboxes. Yeah, no thermostyle. I was very disappointed there. Yes, like the artwork, it's like 50s, for like the old 50s style, 50s sci-fi. Yep. It had a lot of shit on it. Yeah, it does. And they've had problems with the post, but they said they're fixing this for the post in the middle. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. So the main issue with the game is they have a bunch of stand-ups right below the tank.
    28:56
    And one thing they didn't show in the trailer is that the tank has a robot in it, and if you hit it enough times, the robot comes up out of the tank, which they didn't even show. But when you hit these targets, it airballs big time. Like I'm talking like I've seen ones you hit the target, it air balls back to you over your flipper's ring.
    29:18
    Insane air balling. I'm pretty sure the air ball effect is what got me my Cayenne Stucky. On the fancy version, I think there's plastic cutouts of Captain Cayenne and what's her name? Anoya? The Villain Lady. and I got a Stucky that landed squarely on that plastic on the left and I was like it was really funny but at the same time I was like please don't break and the tank right in the middle I felt like at times it was like if you played Iron Man and Monger came up and just stayed up like you're always hitting it over and over I would have liked it better if maybe you hit it and something got out of the way and you could hit something else I heard there's some special people in video modes our video screens, you see some famous people. I know Steve Bowden is part of the Locke animation. He is. Hi, Steve. How you doing? That was pretty cool. And how about motherfucking Pulp Fiction? Oh, works good. Yeah, I like the Tank Force.
    30:25
    I like the goofiness, but I'm a goofy type guy. And supposedly they are addressing the airball issue. Yep, and it seems like it was pretty solid. I mean, the rules are solid so far, so I think that's going to be a really good game. I think they're going to sell more than you think. So you think it'll be their biggest seller?
    30:47
    Possibly. Hot Wheels is a pretty good seller for them. When do we think the best seller is for them? It has to be Hot Wheels. Really? Oh, yeah. I think it's Houdini. No, Houdini. No? No. Okay.
    30:59
    You don't see many Hot Wheels going for sale, but you see a ton of Houdinis. Okay. I think you see more Houdini's reef hashed on the market. All right. Pulp Fiction. Okay. Motherfucking Pulp Fiction. I just saw the movie two weeks ago and I was not impressed. Motherfucking Lines. Wait, wait. Motherfucking Lines. Didn't you watch 20 minutes of it again and quit? No, I watched the whole thing. Oh, you did watch the whole thing. It was terrible. Well, no, you're wrong again, but okay. It was terrible. How is it terrible? It just wasn't fun. You're entitled to your incorrect opinion. I like other Tarantino movies, but not that one.
    31:36
    What about it didn't – what turned you off about it? It really wasn't that funny. I thought the middle part with him taking her out to the guy's wife on a date was like 30 minutes of just wasted time. I know it was leading into the story a little bit, but it was really bad. I think Bruce hates briefcases too. Do you not like the existentialism that was portrayed throughout the film? No, not really.
    32:04
    Are you not like a fan of existentialist movies? No. Because everything, everywhere, all at once is kind of that too. I know. That's why I didn't like that. Yeah. See, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, so I love it. Yeah, that does turn off for me. I don't know what that word means. Look it up. End of dictionary. It sounds really long and complicated.
    32:22
    Contemplating one's existence, the nature of life, Whether or not the guy unloading a whole clip at the Pulp Fiction guys and missing them with every single bullet is a freak accident or a miracle. The thing that they debate for the rest of the freaking movie. Yeah, they debated it way too much. And then he based his whole future on that and got his friend killed for that. He lived and the other friend died. Yeah, it's the ironies of life, the choices that you make, the butterfly effect, and contemplating existential... But there's a game. See, there was a pinball machine there. Yeah, there was, and I heard that was a really good game, too. I wish I knew. She couldn't stand in line long enough. It was like a half-hour line easy, and I did not have the patience to do that. What did they have, four of them there? yeah they had four of them I think two of the super shiny version and two of the less shiny version and they were back to back and the only reason I got to see them is because there was space for people to move on both sides so I was able to like go by watch people playing you know hop up and down try to get a view squint as I walked by um as opposed to Scooby-Doo which was in the corner there was no way in hell i was getting over there but the lines were just moving too slowly for me to bother well also i was gonna have ron come with me but then he bailed and then i bailed yeah because i'd already played it and i didn't want to stand in line again so what did you think of it ron since you played it so out of all the games that i played it was the one game that I think I pretty much knew what to do. Right off the bat? Just because they have, it just has alphanumeric displays. They can't really tell you that much on them. So everything is on the play field. Like all the wording, everything is written on the play field.
    34:25
    So it has the taxi thing where you try to get the characters on one ball. I think it even has a carryover target just like taxi. It's Mark Ritchie, so it has the Indiana Jones Pinball Adventure Lockshot. literally the same thing, the three bank, except the lock is on the left instead of the right.
    34:46
    And it rejected the fucking lock. Yeah, I don't know if I just had bad luck or what, but when I played it, it must have rejected six or seven times.
    34:59
    Both flippers, didn't matter. And I had people watching me every time it rejected. It was just like, ooh, ooh, ooh. It's like, yeah. But now I was playing proto number zero or whatever it was. I think it's something like that on there. So maybe that's not an issue or won't be an issue on production games. Or maybe it was only an issue for me. I don't know. I mean, other than that, everything shot fine. I still think the Samuel Jackson figurine where he's holding the gun out, I think his arm is going to get ripped off at some point. I just, an air ball is going to take that off. So what do you think about it not shipping till the third quarter of 2023? It's going to be a long time. Yeah. It took me a long fucking time. I couldn't hear it either, but I'm assuming the sound's probably great. Yeah, being able to comment on the sounds of any of these games is kind of not possible. Because, again, walls of noise. I can't wait to play all these games at the Allentown show.
    35:57
    But, um, I liked it. It's simple. Now, you have not purchased any of these games, Ron or Steph, right? No, I haven't, no. Steph, if I give you $15,000, which game are you buying?
    36:09
    15K, both of you. I was nice enough to give you 15K each. Which one are you buying? Only can buy one, though. Can I test play them again?
    36:18
    No. No, I'm just joking. I'll buy Foo Premium and pocket the rest. There you go. Part of me wants to buy Foo Premium. Part of me wants to get Galactic Tank Force because I know everyone else around me is going to have a Foo.
    36:33
    She's thinking smart. The topper was awesome on Pulp Fiction. The dancing thing. Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot.
    36:44
    Meet a lot of people down there. I saw a picture of you. Oh, Marty was there. Hi, Marty. We talked about Fathom. I played some Fathom.
    36:56
    I'll say that the water effect underneath the game, that throws me. Like when I'm playing the game, when I see it in the corner of my eye, I think it's smoke. I keep thinking it's smoke. Like, oh, shit. Fuck. The game's on fire. I actually get concerned.
    37:13
    Yeah, Marty says hi. Hi, Marty. I miss Marty. He hugged me, Bruce. It was okay. I knew he would. It was okay. It's okay. See? I'll allow it.
    37:23
    Yes. Also talk to Damien. Damien was there. I walked by that area for the entire first day. And I never saw the booth. until the second day. Wow. That's how it's just arranged. You could not pass certain areas. It was like near the one queen area, and it was like I walked through, and all of a sudden I just looked like, Marty, what the hell? And yes, there were two queen areas. Yeah, how was queen? Yes, two queen areas. I didn't play it. I played it, and I can sum it up in the one word that was most commonly said during the game. What? Just what? What does that mean? Just some unexpected things happening. Ended up playing in a four-player game because the guy is in front of us. The game, this guy was getting his ball going, you know, having a good multi-ball, and again, the game locked up during a song change.
    38:22
    Excellent. And then, so all four of us played, and there was a lot of what is happening, not in that the rules were completely incohesive, you could understand what was going but like just weird things would happen like Raymond accidentally locked us all out of the Wembley multiball and we don't know how.
    38:42
    So it needs a lot of work. It could use some polishing definitely in the code area, possibly also in like tweaking some of the physical things so that the habit trails don't launch the ball at you. And I don't know if the diverter was a code thing or a physical thing. You know, my father was a big fan of a game in the Pinball Brothers area, but it wasn't Queen.
    39:08
    What was that? Well, come on, that narrows it down. There's only one other game. Aliens? Alien. My dad likes Alien. Oh, God. And so do I. If only someone else made it. But you didn't want to buy it. You just said you didn't want to buy it, so it wasn't... No, someone else needs to make it. Oh, boy. What other games? It seems like there was other games Was there? There was no Bond 60th It was not there I saw something that apparently they weren't supposed to be brought to shows I don't know, let me go check I saw something on the Poor Man's about how a distributor got in trouble Hang on, let me vet Okay, I can see a distributor, maybe. Before I start talking out of my ass. Definitely not an owner. If an owner wanted to bring theirs, no, you're not allowed to bring that game. It's not allowed to be in public. No, you're not allowed at all. Yeah, Poor Man's Pinball Podcast says, Stern is mad at the distributor who bought Bond 60th to MGC, but we are mad at Stern for charging 20K with no side blade art and a lame Photoshop play field. And no knocker. Good layout, fun game, cool reel scoring, shit presentation. Definitely for dudes that are excited to show off their big weenuses. Wow.
    40:24
    Hey, Steph, I sent the picture. That was the poor man, not me. I sent the picture to you guys a few seconds ago in the chat for our Facebook chat. Yeah, apparently one of the stipulations from Stern to distributors was no trade shows to keep it exclusive or something. So you sent a Dr. Pepper Peeps marshmallow. Yep. Oh, I've had that. It's pretty good.
    40:45
    Okay. Steph is a big Dr. Pepper person. Yeah, if you need to get me a soda, just get me a Dr. Pepper. I will take the cherry. I will take the strawberries and cream. If you find the chocolate cherry or the chocolate, give me. You could be a pepper, too. I'm a pepper. You're a pepper. He's a pepper. She's a pepper. Would you like to be a pepper, too? The remnants of Deep Root there, Turner Pinball. Yes, Turner Pinball with his guaranteed work of a pinball machine. The Ninja Game. Yeah. They shouldn't have brought it.
    41:16
    Don't bring a game that early in. It's just... Yeah, it's very early in the... It's so early. it's so barren. Even the homebrewers would be like, dude, you need to do better there. It did look like someone brought a homebrew but with really good art on it. But he must have the same marketing guy as Deep Root had before because they just keep on making all the wrong moves with that company and the remnants of that company. One of his incorrect moves is when he does videos he's got the two Razzes in the background. No, no. Do not remind people of this. No. So a good show, though, huh? How did the tournaments go, guys? Hey, tournaments. We know everyone loves tournament talk. Everyone just clicked it off on right now.
    42:04
    Well, let's see. Classics, Escher, Lefkoff won. The main tournament, we had Carl, D'Angelo won. Who won the women's tournament, Steph? Hang on. I am at the tournament page, and I do not see anything for that.
    42:24
    They did the limited qualifying, and I sucked at classics again. You got to play four different games. You get eight chances, and I was nowhere near close getting in. Steph made it in. Congrats, Steph. Second year in a row. I didn't make it in the main tournament either, so I suck, I guess. Well, we know that. Thank you. No problem. That's what we're here for. Yeah. I was 43rd.
    42:56
    I was told I played incorrect games. You do play incorrect games. Yeah, I was told I was dumb. Everyone, next time you see Ron at Allentown, just tell him he plays the incorrect games. I don't know how dumb I could have been. I mean, I'm like, I'm looking at this here. I'm 170-something points away from even getting in the top 24 to even make the playoffs. So I don't know how playing a different game would have helped. Games, we said plural. Still. I still don't see how it would have helped. I think it was some sort of thing about what you were doing, which games you were playing and the opportunities, the various thresholds for how many points you needed. It's like, well, you only had to get this much on this game, but you instead tried to get this much on this game.
    43:42
    I guess I need a coach. I believe Megan Shattuck won. Okay. And this was all streamed on, I think it was Wormhole Pinball. Yeah, it was Wormhole. So if you want to go back and look at the VOD, let's see. And they had games there like, they had Alien Poker, Atlantis, Attack from Mars. Yeah, Black Knight. That was like the first game I played. I got, what did I get on that? I got 1.3 million. I had the number one score for a while. So that was cool. One of the few things I did right.
    44:23
    Then I had, let's see, Congo, Firepower. I got third on that overall, 895,000. Then Foo Fighters, Godzilla, Grand Prix, Mars Trek, Spirit of 76, Taxi, Volley, The Walking Dead, and Wildfire. They call it wildfire Steph's there like, what the fuck are you saying? Yeah, I have no idea what's going on. No idea. It's a song from the 70s. I gathered it was a song. About a horse. Yes. I don't remember who did it. He had like three names or something.
    45:07
    Like Michael something something or something something Murphy or something like that. Yeah, that was the tournaments. It was great. I guess our tournaments coverage wasn't the best. I mean, I was playing other things. You actually enjoyed the show. I blew all my entries, obviously. And yeah, a lot of Saturday I was actually in the hall playing stuff. So I didn't see a lot of the playoff action.
    45:32
    But Steph was in the playoffs. She was in the classics playoffs. For like a hot second. Aww. And then bankable happened, and I had four house balls. And then I was no longer in the tournament, so I got to watch everybody else play in the tournament. Actually, I think I went back to my room and just laid down for a while, read a book. And then the last round of the tournament was super close, ended up in a three-way tie for all the marbles, went to Old Chicago, and Escher just sort of exploded the game. and that's how I sure won and then the main finals were later yeah I think they finished when I was looking at it I was predicting around 2 in the morning I think they finished around 147 I was half asleep I do think that's about when they woke me up to tell me who won I just overheard it I'd be like why did you wake me up I mean When people talk around me, I usually wake up, so I just sort of was roused.
    46:43
    It was definitely after midnight, because after midnight I was like, I have to get all of my stuff together and bring it down to the tournament area for a match play by 8.45 a.m. I should go to sleep. After midnight, we're going to let it all hang down. Hey, I got up early enough that I had breakfast. Whoa So Rebecca Salem She had her biscuit Her infamous biscuit My biscuits are burning And then the Bells tournament was a blast Even though I played like absolute Dog poop I think I was 60th out of 64 But it was cool to see everybody And play with everybody Anything else happen at the show That was pretty interesting Or your flights were on time Everything was good with that The hotel was nice yeah yeah after the show we found a uh bar i guess it was that had a cup it was closing in like an hour and we didn't realize when we rolled up to there and we were like oh crap so but we went there because there were like 20 pinball machines so like the dallas area had like at least three places with 10 plus pinball machines all of them are closed on sunday evening but um it was really cool to be like, ooh. Well, also, that or you would have to go into the downtown of the city and we didn't want to.
    48:10
    That's good. I'm glad you guys had a good time. And there was Whataburger. And In-N-Out, animal style is the way to go. And animal style, no spread, is the way to go for fries.
    48:23
    I'm trying to think, is that dirty? Animal style? I don't know what that means. It means that you put Thousand Island dressing, caramelized onion bits, and cheese on your burger in addition to the stuff. And the animal-style fries is same stuff slapped on the fries. No spread is none of the Thousand Island dressing. You want the Thousand Island dressing. You don't want cheese. You do not want – well, yeah, you. For me, it's the Thousand Island dressing was too overwhelming on the fries. It's great on the burger. And this was good fast-food-starved Easterners talk.
    48:55
    Okay. I had the same issues last year where all these like TPN people were there and I didn't run into any of them. Because they just block you right out.
    49:09
    Like I wanted to talk to Dennis Creasles two years in a row. I have not seen him. I have not seen him at the show and I know he's there. And I was in the hall for hours at a time and I didn't see anybody. Ron, they're avoiding you. I think they're avoiding me. I definitely agree they're avoiding me. Oh, well. So next time, I'll come down next time. You can hang out with me. They'll hear my voice, and I'll go. You always say you're coming, and you never come. I know. Just stick with Ray. You'll eventually accidentally find them. Unfortunately, I got my vacations planned out until 2024.
    49:41
    All of them. Wow. Yeah. Let's see. I did have one person who was in, I think, the tournament area. He asked me, like, do you do a podcast? Your voice sounds familiar. Yes, I do. Silver Bowl Chronicles. That's where I've heard you. Yeah, probably. I think that's the one he listened to, yeah.
    50:02
    Oh that the one thing Last thing about TPF Oh yeah Da The Twippies The Twippies The Twippies which I actually didn see the awards but I did send you you saw the video I sent you right Bruce Mm-hmm. Yes. Where they announced all the nominees for Best Podcast, and I think Slam Tilt got a slightly louder reaction than Silver Bullet Chronicles. A lot of them. A lot of them didn't get a lot of reactions, and we got a pretty good reaction for our show. We got a pretty good reaction. But I'm just saying it got more of a reaction than Silver Ball Chronicles. That is an oddly specific straw. Mm-hmm. Oddly specific. So let's see. I got the results right in front of me, Bruce. Yay. Oh, come on, Bruce. Remember, we had them on to talk about the Twippies. I know we did. I know. The best theme. The winner was James Bond. Okay. I can agree with that. I totally agree with that. It wasn't overly close. Weird Al was second. Hmm? Rush third. Toy Story fourth. I think Toy Story would have been higher. Because of Toy Story four. Well, yeah. If it was the original, I think it would have been a lot better. I really... Still, there was a point at the show where I was... It was while I was on Godfather or waiting. Maybe this was before I was trying to finish up the games. Where I saw a little girl dragging her dad over. You know how when kids point at something, they don't put their hand down until they're there? They don't just point, put down, and move. They haven't figured out the cadence of how long is too long to point. Basically, she was doing the point and drag, dragging her father over towards the Toy Story game. So, like, that was actually kind of heartwarming to see. Like, the theme does resonate with the intended audience, even though it is Toy Story 4 and not Toy Story 1. which means that we Toy Story 1 oldies are apparently not the intended audience, I guess. I like it as long as I don't have to hear the music. Yeah. Then it's fine. Then it's perfect. Yep. Let's see. Favorite pinball mod of 2002. This wasn't even close. The Godzilla neon Tokyo sign. Yep. Which I have in my Godzilla.
    52:18
    Yeah, man, slaughter. The second one was Stranger Things lab set. I've seen that, so that's pretty bad. Let's see. Wow. Okay, we got another landslide victory here. We got Best Sound, Rush by Stern. Yeah, gee, that was a surprise.
    52:35
    It got 1,236 first-place votes. The next one was Weird Al with 485 first-place votes. So, basically, if you get a band pin in, you're a shoo-in, except that there were two band pins this year. so it was the more produced one that was the shoe-in the next one surprised me this was actually way closer than i thought it would be favorite pinball convention or event convention event i figure tpf was gonna win well it did but right on its heels with chicago pinball expo i mean that is the other major thing and if you can't get down to the south that's gonna be your big thing but It wasn't this close last year. I think Chicago Pinball Expo, with the changes they made, with the different layout, and having actual working games, greatly improved their voting, their status. Because they had 519 first-place votes to Texas's 582.
    53:35
    What's the Big Western thing? Would it still be in-disc at this point, or is there a different show that's poised to be the Big Western show? You have to say, I would actually say for California Extreme or Indisc. Yeah, well, that's not even on here. West, Indisc is the first West, the most West thing on here. Yeah. The most West. Let's see. Favorite homebrew pinball machine. Elf. Second was Dukes of Hazzard, which I got to play. I thought, you know what? I was thinking if you really wanted to piss someone off, You can make a Dukes of Hazzard pin, and you put the Duke Boy Cousins in there instead of the Duke Boys. Oh, bad. I was writing the originals. Yes. See, Bruce knows what I mean. Steph has no idea. Oh, God. See, Steph, Dukes of Hazzard was a really highly rated show. I mean, I don't mean critically highly rated. I mean good ratings. And the two stars decided to hold out for more money, so they replaced them with different Duke Boys. All of a sudden, there was different Duke Boys. And as a kid, I remember watching it saying, where the hell the Duke boys at? What happened? Yeah. And the audience pretty much thought the same thing, as it tanked badly.
    54:52
    So they got their money. Yes, they did. Was it Tom Wolpat and John Schneider? John Schneider. Yeah, I got it. Just a good old boys. I did enjoy playing Dukes of Hazzard, because it's the Paragon play field. Yes, it is. If you do the Paragon stuff, good things happen. If you get all the inlines and get in the scoop, you've got multi-ball started. If you get in the right scoop enough times, the multi-ball starts.
    55:18
    Let's see. We've got the Lyman Sheets Award for Best Rules. Again, Landslide, Rush. 1,159 first-place votes to 391 for Toy Story.
    55:32
    Favorite pinball website, yet another slaughter. Pinside. What did they win by? 1306 first place votes to 301 for Nap Arcade. Okay. I'm leading something with this. That's why. Oh, God. I am leading something with this. Well, I don't think they do it by that. They do it by, what, the percentage of points or something? No, they tell you how many first place votes there are because you sent the one to us. Yes. Oh, we're going to. I'm just going. I'm leading you in. You see where I'm going with this? Yeah, I see where you're going. So, best toys and mechs, we got James Bond.
    56:10
    How many votes did that get? The funny thing is, it got 628 first place votes, but Toy Story got 702 first place votes. Okay. But James Bond got more, I guess, second place or whatever. However they do the formula. So, it won the overall. Three, two, and one, I think you get. So, first place gets three points. Second place gets two points. Third place gets three points. I mean, I guess the toys bond on a one. What's the Toy Story for one? The iPad? iPad or the Jump, which was done before. Yeah. I mean, it's cool. I think it's cool. I like the Jump. I mean, Rush is there. I don't – what's in Rush? It's got the time machine thing. I mean, that's been done. Diverter? The Diverter's been done. The Clock has been done.
    56:55
    The Claw Lock. Well, it's not – saying best ToysMex is not saying innovative ToysMex. No, it's just saying – All right. Let's see. We got Favorite Pinball YouTube Channel. TNT Amusements won. How many votes did that get? 850. Wow, 850 votes. Straight down the middle got 547, so it wasn't close. Yeah. I'm kind of sad I didn't see Tucky's reaction to that. Okay. Well, he won two in a row, right? I think he won the previous year. I have a question for you also. How much did the best game vote win? The best game? Did I do that one yet? You did. No, I didn't do that yet. Okay. No, I didn't do that one yet. I did Best Theme. Okay, Best Theme. Okay, sorry. Let's see. Best Artwork. Toy Story. How many votes did that get? 903 first place votes. Rush got 530. Okay. Wow.
    57:46
    And third was Weird Al. Chip Hort, James Bond, fourth. Yeah. When I was at the show, I looked at some of those, and it's just, no. I mean, I know they did a lot of touch-up work and all that stuff, but they're movie posters. Yeah. And they're just plastered all over the place. It's just, eh. Yeah, I agree. Let's see. Favorite pinball streamer? Not close. Dead flip. How many votes did he get? 647. Wow, 647. Wow. Flip it. That was first place votes. First place votes. I'm assuming that's what that means. It's his number for choice. Yes, it is. Flipping out pinball was second. They got 383. Wow.
    58:26
    IU pinball was fourth. I know, which is weird. I thought that would do better. Let's see. Best Animations and Display. We got Toy Story 4. Okay. I think Jersey Jack has won this every year. Because he does integrate them very well.
    58:42
    830. Second was Cactus Canyon Remake. 581. Ouch. Yep. That hurts. Okay. Is this the one you're waiting for, Bruce? No, no, no. We wait that to last. Oh, okay. Last. Favorite Pinball Topper. We got Mandalorian. Okay. How many votes did that get? This one was close. This might have been – yeah, this is the closest one. How many votes did that get? 742. Wow. Cactus Canyon, 733. Wow, that's pretty close. That is close.
    59:12
    That is very, very close. I kind of like Cactus Canyon because I like stuff that – I like the Cactus Canyon one better. I like stuff that physically moves as opposed to just a hologram. Yep, I agree. Best playfield gameplay and layout, not close, Rush. And how many votes did that get? 989. Wow. James Bond was second, 595. Okay. Toy Story third. Wow. Let's see. Favorite pinball location.
    59:39
    We get the Next Level Pinball Museum in Oregon, or as Bruce says, Oregon. Yeah, that's wrong. 1,267. That sounds like the most votes so far. Yeah, that 616 was second. Wow. So there was some hard lobbying going on there. Okay. Game of the Year.
    60:03
    Rush. Not close. So how many votes did the Game of the Year? 1,066. Wow. So that didn't even get as high as the location of the year. No, no. And Toy Story 4 second at 530. Okay, wow.
    60:22
    And you're going to make me do it, huh? Yep. I don't know where you're getting at here. Oh, I know exactly what I'm getting at. Because the totals really aren't that insane. Okay. Chris, the podcaster, won best podcast. How many first place votes did he get? About 664. Okay. And the second was the pinball show with 405. Okay. And then it kind of dips way down. The super awesome pinball show, 291. Bro, do you even talk pinball, 257. Silver Ball Chronicles, 144. Mm-hmm. Slam Tilt Podcast, 138. So we blame Ron for our six votes less.
    61:02
    That's the whole gimmick. Sorry. See, we would have had five. It's all on Ron. Silver Ball Chronicles beat Slam Tilt. I beat me. You beat yourself. So I win either way. You beat me and yourself. I beat my God.
    61:18
    But thank you people for voting for us. Thank you. Triple Drain, followed by Loser Kid, followed by Pinball Profile, followed by Final Round. I think we're me and Teolis, the two doubles. Got two different ones. You are, yes. Yeah.
    61:32
    We're on the doubles. But we're still, how many years have we been doing this now? Seven almost now? Middle of the pack.
    61:40
    There we go. Wait a second. Hold on. I have a question, though. What? So some podcaster has a cutoff thing.
    61:51
    Cutoff thing. A tank top? No, no. Not a tank top because that would be very unsexy. What are you going on about? I'm going for this. Now, he has a Patreon. You mean a paywall? Paywall, yeah, sorry, and Patreon also. Yeah, he has a paywall, like 600 or so people paying. So if you go by that, every one of them, yes.
    62:12
    I could see that, honestly. Oh, God. If you're paying for that, you're probably going to vote. So we know what that means, Bruce. We don't do it here. No, we need a paywall. No, not at all. 100% paywall. Nope. You can do that on Silver Bowl Chronicles on the TPN network.
    62:31
    Very good. You just advertised for me. Thanks. I know. That means you've got to do it twice now. Do what twice?
    62:38
    Advertise for us. Oh, on the other show? It's only been only once lately. I've seen this. I've heard it. Okay. Well, I only did once on this show versus you did the second time for that. I know. So you've got to get Dave involved now. Okay. I hear Dave's looking for another guy. Oh, David Dennis? Yes, he's looking for another.
    62:56
    I'm not fun enough, I've been told. Is that true? I mean, I try to take it more seriously. You definitely take a more straight man approach. Yeah. I mean, he tries to be funny and stuff. I'm trying to be, you know, it's pinball history. Is it? And then in this podcast, you just pretend there are rails and immediately go off them. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. Speaking of going off rails, for our last segment, we have the ball bag. There we go. And we are going to contact, I think you're going to contact the person that's been waiting for a couple months. I think you'll be next on our next episode, I'm saying. Hopefully, if you can make it. Ah, yes. Yes. You got it. There you go. And we have multiples, so I have to go back and look again. Oh, my. okay first first uh first one we have is from um bill hi bill let's see um oh he's he's emailed before this is another okay just listening to episode 201 i have a name for bruce how about my future ex co-host bruce nice just a thought nice okay hey don't forget i've been on the show more than Ron has. No. Yes. Okay, I can't wait to hear this. How do you come to that conclusion? Because you were not on one of the shows when your volume didn't go on.
    64:28
    Yeah, my voice wasn't on, but then again, you also were not on half of the Lyman episode. But I was on the other half. I was still on it. And no one knew you weren't on. I know, but I was on it. Thanks to my incredible editing. So I've been on plus one. Okay, we have an email here that says, do not read this on the air. Okay. He will not read that.
    64:48
    We should read the whole thing and then say, oh, never mind. Oh, shit. Damn, we can't edit that out. Let's see. This is from Corey. Hi, Corey. Hi, Slamtail. Just a quick note that the audio in your new setup is fantastic. Oh, Bruce sounds very velvety now. And listening to old episodes, it sounds like Bruce's voice is being put through a pinbot voice modulator. Pinbot stranded. Congrats on 200 plus episodes. Well, funny thing about that. let's go for behind the scenes of the slam till podcast so two episodes ago so 200 episodes we've used skype yes so 201 we used zen caster and after recording for five minutes it blew up for bruce and we had to reboot and restart and then everything was fine and i'm like okay we got the new thing we're gonna we're gonna use that caster we're gonna get another person on just to test this out. Yep. So then we got our third host Zach on and we're recording and we record the whole thing. We get to the end and the way Zencastr works is it records on everyone's individual machine, like a local file. And then when it's done, you stop the recording and it uploads the files. Well, when I uploaded the files from Bruce and Zach, we record for two hours. Zach had 15 minutes on them I had 31 actually Zach had 16 minutes you had 33 that was it that's it that's all fucking recorded I was beyond pissed it didn't give an error it didn't say anything was wrong I mean it did what it was supposed to there was no errors of any kind and everyone I've talked to is just like oh that's weird we never have this issue only us so I can't and you might be asking well how did you do that podcast. Did you re-record? No. Nope. Because Ron has no trust in technology at all. I was running, in the background, I was running Audacity, which was recording my headset. So I was getting Zach and Bruce that way. The only thing Zencastr actually recorded correctly was me.
    66:56
    So... And also, with the other company that you just tried before, they're now charging... Oh yes, it's not free anymore. It's not free anymore. As soon as we jump on it, like, yeah, we're going to try this. Well, yeah, but also it's like, yeah, you want me to pay for it if it's not going to work? I mean, it needs to be somewhat reliable.
    67:15
    Now, this one, we've got to look into. We're getting some slight echoing at times. So if you hear that, we are aware. I don't know why it's doing that. But I'm using this other product now. And this doesn't do video. It's just audio. But it records. I can download it constantly as we're recording to keep copying it off, like I used to do with Skype. So if everything crashes into oblivion, I still have something. So we'll see how that goes. This is recording into nice, huge WAV files, too. So just that alone, it ought to be incredible. I love big WAV files. But I need to figure out why it's fucking echoing. Because we might have to try yet another product. If anyone knows of any products. or why Zencaster might have shit on us.
    68:02
    Let's see. This is from Robert. Bruce. Oh, wait. It sent it directly to you. Oh, I don't know if I'm supposed to read this. He's thanking you for you, Zach and the crew, for hosting him at RPC.
    68:17
    So I don't know if I was... Am I supposed to read this or not, Bruce? Are you there? Is anyone there? Bueller.
    68:31
    That sucked. That was sure a way to introduce yourself. Yeah, that sucked. What happened? The whole Internet just died. Oh, your whole Internet. The whole. Okay, so I won't blame the software then. It's Bruce again. No, it was just the whole network. Kathy came in just before it died, and she's like, did you just lose the Internet? I'm like, no, I'm still going. And all of a sudden.
    68:56
    I'll just leave that in there. So, folks, as you heard, we're testing new stuff, and I think Bruce is the issue because he's disconnected. But, I mean, that's a good test. That was a complete Internet fail on your part, and you just reconnected. Yep. Nice. That was actually the good part. And you're right on there. Yeah. So hopefully we didn't – I don't think we lost anything because we're still recording. Yeah. So maybe that's good.
    69:18
    Maybe. Yes. We're using this product called CleanFeed.net. It's based out of the UK. It's a clean machine. but yeah. Dingy, dingy, dingy, dingy, dingy. Yeah. But I'll go back to the letter I was, it's from Robert who visited you guys. Oh, hey. Do you know who Robert is? I do know who Robert is. Should I read this? Is it okay? Yeah, go ahead, yeah. Thanks so much to you, Zach and the crew, for hosting me at RPC. Thanks for sharing your early stern passion with me. Always thought they were boring and slow. Wrong. Oh, he says, I was wrong. Stargazer, Cheetah, and of course, Stars gave us a good beating a bunch of times. Loved it. I might have to look at getting one. Definitely get a stars. Lots of fun having dinner and sharing stories and tons of pinball talk. Hoping to return, Rob. Yes, it was a really good time. P.S. Tell Ron I love Dialed In, too. He does because he's the one that gave me the shirt. And he's a great co-host. I showed Ron the shirt, and I'm going to burn it next time he's here. that's an odd way of using a gift well it's a gift i can give give pleasure for to myself give pleasure to yourself yes i love pleasuring myself okay i got an email here from the pinball princess wait would you or would you not buy that Ooh. It is a $12,000. Well, it was a $16,999 kiss, but now it's down to $12,000. Kiss! And you know what makes it so expensive? Autographed. That's right. It was signed by Paul Stanley and myself, Gene Simmons, of Kiss. Only two? That's the only two that need to sign it, Bruce. We are Kiss. That's funny.
    71:13
    No, we would not buy it. And there you go. There you go. That's right. Kiss. We're just cleaning out that ball bag. Oh, yeah. Get the underside carriage. Hmm.
    71:30
    Okay, let's see. Oh, yes. We got an email back from... Actually, I emailed Tom. You might remember Tom. He was the one who emailed about Estern just giving up on Rush. Yes. And I emailed him after the accessories came out. So he'd still love to sit on the show. On the show? Sit on the show. Sit in on the show sometime. Wow.
    71:53
    Also, any chance you guys are coming to Pin Brew next month in northeast Ohio? Probably not. When is Pin Brew? Let's see. I think it might be this Sunday. April 13th to the 15th. Yeah, probably wouldn't be this Sunday because it's Easter. Yeah, no, it's the weekend after. So it's after Easter. So it's the 13th through the 15th. I won't be there. How about you, Bruce? I will not be there because I have to work that weekend. Oh. Because I'm off next weekend because I'm going down to Jersey. Oh, I'm sorry. Yep, got to visit family. Very sorry. Bagels. Bagels will be going. So thank you, Tom. Let's see.
    72:37
    This is from Bill. Ron, just heading back from... Ron, it just says Ron. Okay, see you later. Bye. Ah! I wonder if they all realize you don't read the ball bag at all. I read it. Sure you do. Ron, just heading back from TPF listening once again to the past Slam Tilt podcast. I'm working on older episodes from the most current to the first. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's painful. But, hey, Ron was bad back then, but he's getting better. Yeah, but the way he's listening to it, I will continue to get worse.
    73:07
    If you're bad. I'm somewhere around episode 130. It's strange listening to history backwards. Just before I send this, I was going through the COVID episodes. And at the beginning, you guys were anticipating how short COVID was going to last. Yeah. They told it to everyone because, you know, hey. Says, I went to TVF for the first time this year and had a great time. Enjoyed the movies on Friday night. Oh, yeah, they had the movies. They had the Roger Sharp movie. Yep. I'm going to get my poster from Mr. Teolis. He got me an autographed poster. Oh, Steph was there Friday night for the Roger Sharp movie. What did you think, Steph? I thought it was cool. I bought it. I mean, I guess the idea that they framed the pinball thing going in parallel with the romance of Roger and Ellen, that was a smart way to put it to appeal to a larger audience who wouldn't just go, nerds, and run away. And the guy they have is old Roger, just spot on. I was doubting myself, like, that's an actor, right? It was a really healthy dose of comedy. Put in the Hollywood-mandated romance subplot, which, I mean, it played into the pinball well enough. You know, the family bonding and all the pinball. And it was really cool. I thought it was cool. I thought it was informative. I liked it. I liked it, too. I bought the copy. Oh, you watched it? Oh, I watched it. I bought it. Wow. Wow, so you watched more than 20 minutes. I watched the whole thing. Oh, my God. On my big 86-inch TV. Oh, thank God you said TV. Yes.
    74:43
    It was good. I enjoyed it very much. It was nice seeing some of the Orange County pinball machines down there, including some of Howard's.
    74:51
    And wasn't Zach's former game in there somewhere? Yes, yes. It was probably his former bank shot. Let's see. Bill continues, enjoyed the movies on Friday night, played some pinball, and looked for you. On Saturday I even had my Silver Ball Chronicles T on I not sure but I think I saw Stu McVicker playing the new Queen Machine Possibly You never know where he can show up Let see Later I could have swore I saw him again playing Scooby-Doo over at Spooky's area. I don't think he would have played Scooby-Doo. I don't know. Didn't get a chance to talk to him either. Plan on going again next year. Then I was off to Kentucky to pick up a pinball, and on the way back, I swung through Sugarloaf, Colorado for another machine for a friend. If I make Allentown, I will definitely look for you again. We'll both be there. We'll both be there. I'm guaranteed at Allentown. Allentown is like the one guaranteed slam-tilt show where you can see both of us, us celebrities that we are. Yes, if you want an autograph, it's $27.95. Oh, God. Maybe I'll get a chance to see both you and Bruce at Allentown. Yes, you will. Yes, you will. Love both podcasts. Good job. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, sir. This one is specifically to Zach. Oh, boy. Yeah, he sent it to Zach. Zach was on last show, so he sent it to our very own Zach. So I did read this to Zach, and I got an answer from him. But hi, Zach. Hobby operator here. This is from Wayne. I just heard the episode where you said you have 70 games. Besides the games you have at home and the RPC, where do you shove your games?
    76:24
    Oh, my. I have 14 on location. I can't add any more at my two locations. Seven in the house and five in the two-car garage converted to a workshop. This house has no more orifices to fit another project pin, but I'm not done buying. No basements out here in the desert, which doesn't help. Need more pins, need more tips.
    76:44
    According to Zach, he said you just need to fit more games. Give him friends. He's got a, what is it, two-bedroom townhouse? Yes, two-bedroom. Two level, and he's got... Games in all rooms. Every, yeah, every room, what, 18, 20 games in there? There's four in one, four in the other. He has games at his dad's house, his mom's house, RPC, and then several friends' houses. Yeah. So that's how he does it. P.S. Tell your two co-hosts, thanks for over 200 enjoyable episodes. If Beavis and Butthead ever gets made, I went round to pick all the audio call-outs.
    77:27
    Cool. By the way, April 20th, 420, season two of Beavis and Butthead, or the new season. The new Beavis and Butthead will begin. Yes, it will. And they're going to get married in one of the episodes. Yeah, I can't wait.
    77:44
    Okay, we got one from James. I think this is actually a request. This would be for you, Bruce. hi guys i'm new to tournaments and i had a great time yesterday at rpc and plan to come for stop west but i have a question the facebook details mention the price if doing both friday and saturday but not what is happening friday what is happening on friday three strikes three strikes tournament starts at 6 p.m okay three strikes tournament 6 p.m on friday yes you heard it here Yep, and don't forget there's more spots still available for Stomp, but they are getting tight. Okay, okay. We are selling. Every day I get like one or two people inquiring, and I keep on selling just another one today. So I was like, yep, keep on going. Remember, folks, I'm not playing. Yes, so you can hang out with Ron all day. In between, you'll ask Ron all these questions, and you'll get all the knowledge of Ron at your fingertips. The knowledge of Ron. Well, why don't you do the plug? Let's stop again, Bruce. What's that all about? What's going on? On May 19th, we have a three strikes tournament at 6 p.m. at the Rochester Pinball Collective. And on the 20th, we have a match play set up. It'll be starting. Doors open at 12. We start at 1. It'll go mostly all day. Then we'll have an hour break for dinner. And then we'll continue on for the rest of the night for the finals. trophies for both tournaments, and money to be won. Come one, come all. Go to our Facebook page, Free the Rochester Pinball Collective, or Slamdell Podcast, and find out the information. If you have any questions, please message me or Ron. Message Bruce. Wow. All right. The last thing in the ball bag was, oh, yeah, how many, what's the maximum number of stop? 64. Yep. And our last message was actually from our very own Scott. Hey, holy shit. We're going to see him next month. Pointing us to Bad Girls. That's the pin side link I sent to you. I got from him. The one to two of them? Yes. Yeah. That one's pretty rough. But it's the Bad Girls, Bruce. I know. I'm trying for the other one.
    80:03
    But I'm going to get down. Bad girls, they say. Bad girls, they say so much. Oh, wait a minute. So turn them on. Yeah, turn them on. Turn on those bad girls. Bad girls. When all hope is gone.
    80:25
    Bad girls say so much. I like it. We have a new hit. It's brand new. When every little bit of hope is gone. Bad girls say so much. It should be bad girls do so much. Ooh, la-da-la-da.
    80:43
    And that's why they call it the... No, sorry. That's why they... We're saying El John because that's going to be the upcoming Jersey Jack game from Steve Ritchie, right? Yeah. You might hear that song. A lot. We got a... While we were gone, we got an update for James Bond. oh you did james bond yes and you know what it did it made it awesome oh it's still terrible okay like everyone's complaining like look uh foo fighters is ahead of james bond and foo fighters have seemed like they're a lot more cooperative they're they're no it doesn't seem like they are way more cooperative yes and don't forget you're dealing with a big company with you know with bond licensing or like that so it's going to take longer but you can still change the rules you can still change the rules what do you think of bond steph
    81:46
    um okay i love to hear the click coming off i know click like oh shit uh crickets i mean the right ramp contraption is cool yeah it actually shoots doesn't shoot that bad just the rules are it's later than you think it is those those shots on that upper left flipper that's what gets me yeah i i just say boy those rules are foo fighter it's like the upper flipper you can't miss a shot no you either hit the loop or you hit the ramp yeah it's butter oh i want to talk about another thing too i just remember but go ahead we'll go to this yes uh yes bond yes you love bond we do love bond i love bondage no but we need a different rule guy swear to god oh god it's just a rehash hey the one thing he did change in the rules he made the song two and a half minutes long after at the end of it oh my god it's terrible okay okay hey did you see there's a new Trash Talker Invitational? Oh, God. No, I did not, Bruce. It's the Coin Operator Carnage, and it's written in the Total Carnage lettering. Total Carnage! And it's funny, the bottom is, No points, no prizes, no prisoners.
    83:08
    That's the slogan of the Trash Talker. Yes, it is, and I put mine and Zach's name in. Oh, God. We are operators. Zach is going to trash talk someone? No, no, no, but you don't trash talk. Have you not heard him snark? Yeah, he's pretty snarky. He was into one trash talker. He didn't snark at all. I was disappointed. Wow. I expected full snark. I did not get it. Wow. You can have Bruce do the snarking. I can snark all off. Yep. I had Stu play at the last trash talker, if you remember. He was trash talking everybody. It was great. Maybe I bring Stu with me. We get him a little 1% owner. Yeah, Stu's a pretty good trash talker. Yeah, we get 1%, you know, and we can go from there. Okay. Trash talker. All right. Hey, maybe you can have your challenge at Stomp and get Stu out since you're not playing. Yeah, maybe I'm not playing, but all of a sudden Stu shows up and he's playing. Okay. No, no, no. He plays against the challenger that you have now. Remember? You did have a challenger, and Joe is going to be there. Oh, Joe Chervino was one of our previous episodes. Yes, he publicly called out Stu. He called him a liar, said he never won the 1978 Playboy Launch Party Championship, etc. So maybe. Maybe. There you go. He wanted to do it at Pintastic, though, but it's so far in the future, and no one's going to remember that he called him out by then. But, Steph, you had a tournament coming up, didn't you? Yes, she does. Yes, I do. June 24th, I'm going to be running a women's tournament at the Rochester Pinball Collective. I think I'm calling it the Summer Solstice Super Slam. Yes, it is. Took that name from hoops. Hoops. Oh, and I sent Joe Lemire a nice little link to a $6,000 hoops. Wow. You are an asshole.
    85:04
    Joe Lemire wants one so bad. He does. You are so mean. Me? I'm not a mean person. I'm a very nice person. I like hoops love hoops you know I liked when we did this tournament April 1st here I brought a new piece of equipment for the stream yes you did and it actually worked it proved that if you can't get the shit to work if you throw enough money at it money in it you will make it work eventually you'll make it work it's the thing that supposedly goes through walls and shit but I'd say for the first time at least for the playfield camera we did not have a single blip the entire stream did you figure out How much that piece was?
    85:44
    No, I did not. Wow. Keep up the good work. It's like $400 or $500. It ain't cheap. I got Ron money, you know. You got Ron money, yes, because I'm completely loaded, yes. Yes, you are. Well, if you can afford a $1,600 topper, God, I don't know what else there is. Well, I'm not buying games either, Bruce. What was the last game you bought? That's a good question. Rush, probably. Okay. How much did you spend for that Rush?
    86:10
    However much a premium was then. Okay, so $90 for one. They keep going up, so I don't know. 92 to 9,500, let's say, right? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, okay. Ask me the last game I bought new. What, Monopoly? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, wait a minute. What's the last game you did buy new? I'm sure it's something you sold immediately because you didn't like it. It was. Well, I held it a little while.
    86:30
    X-Men? Nope. No. Tron? No. Huh. You're really forgetting this? Yeah, I'm really forgetting it. Rick and Morty? Rick and Morty. Oh, God, I wasn't even thinking of Spookies. Yep, see? Well, you mean one that you bought. You half-z'ed on it. I did half-z' on it. Aren't you half-z'ing on Scooby-Doo? I am. What's the last game you actually, new game, you actually bought yourself and actually got and didn't just sell the spot beforehand? Batman.
    87:04
    Wow. That's a while ago. Yes, it is. Make better games. Don't make better games. Foo Fighters. I'll tell you, that has to win for best display in animation this year. If they were to have the cookies right now, I know Jersey Jack wins it every year, but I'm sorry. They can't win. No. Not from what I saw. The animations are insane.
    87:32
    It has like a Blues Brother in it that just shows up for no reason. It's got Devil's Tower from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That's awesome. Yeah. And it does the Scooby-Doo stuff. Yes, it does the Scooby-Doo stuff better than Scooby-Doo does. Scooby-Dooby-Doo. Where are you? Again, I haven't played it, so I can't tell you. You haven't played what? Scooby-Doo? Scooby-Doo. I know. Where are you? Not somewhere I can play right now. Exactly.
    87:57
    Okay, repairs? Do you want to do any repairs? I don't have much repairs except for just RPC stuff. We're still trying to figure out why once in a blue moon on Cheetah in a four-player game, it doesn't reset it just restarts in the middle of the game we replaced all the diodes on the switch matrix for whatever's touching the start button so it's literally like someone's hitting the start button whether or not yes and they're starting a four-player game that's the weirdest thing oh oh yeah it would have to hit it like four times yeah yes that is weird what kind of board you have in it i've had a weebly i've had an all tech and i've had a regular cpu wow that is fucked up yes it is maybe there's a short on the whatever the start relay would be for the game but ways like asses restart four times yeah it doesn't make any sense same same it's uh stuck on yeah it's unfortunately it just goes on it just it's it's zach's rom Oh. Did you put a regular ROM in it? Yes, we have. And does it do it then? It hasn't done it, but we go back to the old ROM. We go back to the new ROM, and that's when it does it. So Zach's bugging. And the thing is, Zach's like, well, it doesn't happen to ROMs. No. How many times do you actually play a four-player in your game now? Never. Exactly. You might want to do some test four-player games for science. The only time that happens is during Stomp. It was four-playered however many games was on it last Stomp, and it didn't do it. I know. Weird. Very weird. So I'm going to try it on one downstairs next. Okay. Since I have another cheetah to try it on. Any repairs, Steph? That I've actually done? No. I have to replace a new transformer board for another Stern electronics. So that'll be fun. I get to play with that this week. I'll just take the board out and put it on a bench and do it that way. Nice and easy. all right because we're recording later yes and i gotta do some connectors also other than that yeah that's about it how many games do you have now staff four that i own and one that i babysit indefinitely the metallica and what are the other four uh sea witch black rose jungle queen fire queen there you go i poked up i picked up another game this week. You poked up another game. What did you poke up? I poked up The Game Show.
    90:38
    Dead. Silence. Yep. And? I actually think it's kind of funny. Is it because it's like, um, big money, big prizes! I love it! Yep. Yeah. For $1,200?
    90:54
    There you go. $1,400. There's $1,400 with another, I got a video game with it also. Oh, what video game do you get? You still get video games? A 48-1. A 48-1, okay.
    91:07
    We had Galaga in the background. I didn't even tell you. Oh! They had a couple of those at TPF. Yeah. I go to play the first one. I usually just, just because I have to, I'll usually play at least one game if I see it there, one Galaga. Yeah. The first one had the rapid fire chip thing in it. That makes me walk away instantly. Like, I will not. No. that's you could play that forever but that's the thing in there then the other one it was an original but the um the fire button wasn't working right which kind of defeats the whole game unfortunately so yeah and then the other one they had the 20th anniversary one the miss pac-man galaga one but it wasn't on free play so it's just sitting there so i like okay i'm not putting money in it no i'm not gonna put money in this thing fuck that i did not get to play galaga i I did play – it's funny. They had a lot of those, like you said, 48-1. They had some of those that were running. I don't know what the hell they're running for an emulator, but I played one, and I was trying to play Zookeeper, and I was getting lag. I don't fucking understand. How is that possible? It shouldn't be possible at all. I mean, there's some natural lag in Zookeeper, i.e. when you get a lot of shit in the screen, it slows down a little bit. Yeah, it does slow down. It does. It's supposed to do it, but your controls still work. Yes. When you hit a button, it immediately responds. This thing was literally lagging on the controls. I'm like, what the fuck? It makes it so you can't play it. That annoys me. It's like we can't properly emulate 1982 technology. It's just too powerful. I love Zookeeper.
    92:45
    You ever play any Zookeeper, Steph? No. Not familiar with that one. You jump over animals. Yes. The more animals you can jump over, the more points you get, and you can make some massive jumps.
    93:01
    Awesome. Yeah. I love Zookeeper. I think that's it, Bruce. I think it is, too. All right. So let's see here. Plugs. What do you need? Plugs. We are the Slam Tilt Podcast. You can reach us at SlamTiltPodcast at gmail.com. Check out our website.
    93:24
    What? You can? Yes, you can. Wow. You could write us too, Bruce. I can? Yeah, you could go into the mailbox, write it, and then you would see your email instantly. I could? You could.
    93:39
    Idiot. Okay. Sorry. This has been episode 203. You can check out our website at www.slamtiltpodcast.com. All our episodes are there. use the handy dandy search function if you want to know what episode Zach's on or Steph's on or anyone is on hi to everyone in our clusterfuck thread hi boys and girls how we all doing hi Steve I'm a bonus hi Zach hi pinball princess she's here hi is there anything you want to plug Steph Rochester Pinball Collective hosting women's tournament June 24th, there's a Facebook event, the Summer Salsa Super Slam for details. It's going to be max match play with a ladder final. It's going to be a lot of fun.
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    Excellent. You have anything else, Bruce? What else do I have? Hey, we're looking for a cheaper Bad Girls. They see multiple Bad Girls. They're not cheap enough for Bruce yet. Well, the one is pretty beat up, so I was like, you know, so It's like, ehhh.
    94:51
    Well, it's bad girls, actually. That reminds me of something, being a Gottlieb. Bad girls. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I thought I'd bring this up. This is funny. But it ties into a conversation, a thing I've had in the past, about enjoy shows while they're there. Enjoy collections while they're around because you never know if they're going to go away. Because most of these places, they don't have succession plans, if you will. No, they don't. So we got a message recently that Pinball Resource not accepting email orders anymore. Because Jimmy, the guy that did it for 20 years, I think he was the only guy that did the email orders, is not doing them anymore. So guess what everyone has to do now, huh? And I would assume that means he's probably the only one that ever did email orders. Yes. So now everyone's going to have to call, and already hard to get into because he has like one line. So you just have to keep calling, keep calling, keep calling, keep calling, keep calling. Why are sales cutting down by 30% to 40%?
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    But when I think of – I always think of Steve. Steve Young has forgot more about parts than probably anyone will ever know. Yeah. And I know people have gone to his place to pick up parts and stuff, and they say that he just knows where everything is. Yep. It's just all in his head. And it's just like, I think, what happens when he retires or is gone? Oh, you're screwed. Yeah, I think a lot of Gottlieb owners are going to be screwed. Screwed, blued, and tattooed. So support him while you can, because you never know what'll happen. Yeah. So if you need parts, make sure you get lots of them. Yeah, really stock up. Stock up. Oh, have your part numbers when you call. There's breakfast ramen, ranch ice cream, peep Coca-Cola, and Funyun flavored Lay's. Funyun flavored Lay's I've had. They're wavy now. Pretty good. Wavy Funyun. Wait a minute. Pinball Resource sells that stuff? I was not aware of this. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Oh, wow. She's plugging what she wants to plug. Didn't you know there's a PBR food grocery store that you can call in? And you get yelled at if you say the name of the stuff wrong or something. I want a Chiquita banana. No, it's Chiquita. Idiot! No banana for you. Click. You're banned.
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    What's your customer number? What? Customer number? What the fuck are you talking about? Click. Sir, we got disconnected. No, we didn't. Click.
    97:22
    Why are you ordering that part? That's not even the right part. Well, I want to use it. I don't care. Click. Sales are down 80% this year, honey. I don't know why.
    97:33
    Golder should have retired last year. but seriously thank you steve young my my surf and safari thanks you and so does my alien star yes and the parts for stargate that we're working on yeah and what does he always say he has the logo there like play your games or enjoy your games something like that yeah so everyone i'll rip him off enjoy your games until next time say goodbye bruce goodbye john lee
    98:05
    Can you boogie? Can you slide? Hold my mind. You can boogie if you try. Hold my mind. Guaranteed to keep you alive.
    98:30
    Meteor! Level Zero! Clusterfuck! George T. Kai Tim Balls Bruce Sissons Tournament Talk Car Holder Cheetah Xanadu Cash Grab ELO Ball Bank What You Buying Game You Love Game You Hate Tournament Talk Pinball Princess Sir Oh my
    99:34
    Oh my, my. Oh my, my. The edit's gonna kinda suck. Yes it will. Is there ever a good edit? No, not lately. At this point, no. So, while you guys were reading the ball back, I was going through my photos from TPF. I found a photo, I'm not gonna post it. I will show you. It's a picture of the picture, and you will see why I was laughing.
    100:00
    Hey, that guy's picking his nose. yeah I managed to get the perfect moment of someone being deep in oh yeah that's a really good one he's mining for copper oh my god wow