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#130 Rant and Roll

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 16m·analyzed·Jul 28, 2025
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TL;DR

Hosts rant about playfield swap quality, podcast imitation, and discriminatory behavior in the pinball service industry.

Summary

George and Dave from The Classic Pinball Podcast discuss various restoration and service challenges, including Dave's problematic 8-Ball Deluxe playfield swap from CPR that required extensive corrections (38+ hours), complaints about podcast imitation by larger media outlets, and a disturbing story about racial discrimination against a pinball technician seeking service work in the Boston area. The hosts also share experiences with recent Stern releases (King Kong, Jaws, Dungeons & Dragons) and upcoming titles.

Key Claims

  • CPR's 8-Ball Deluxe playfield swap had significant manufacturing defects including misaligned light sockets, crooked drop targets, incorrect dimpling, and a metal post positioned too close to inline drops, requiring 38+ hours of corrective work

    high confidence · Dave describing his personal restoration experience in detail

  • CPR has not fixed these 8-Ball Deluxe playfield alignment issues as of the podcast date, according to the technician Dave consulted

    medium confidence · Dave reporting what a technician told him about ongoing issues

  • King Kong is 'clearly the best' of three recent Stern releases (King Kong, Jaws, Dungeons & Dragons) when compared at an arcade

    medium confidence · George's personal gameplay observation at a Delaware arcade

  • Jaws plays 'tired' and is 'one of the weaker' Stern releases despite strong sales

    medium confidence · George's gameplay impression at a Delaware arcade location

  • A qualified pinball technician was turned away from service work due to racial discrimination by a Star Wars home edition owner in the Boston area

    high confidence · Dave recounting a story verified by multiple sources (the technician, the arcade owner/tech who called him)

  • Stern's warranty service sent Joe Shortsleeve to fix an Elvira's House of Horrors issue, but the work created a new problem requiring expert repair

    high confidence · Dave describing a customer service experience he handled

  • Multiple podcasts (4-5) have begun copying The Classic Pinball Podcast's format elements, including unedited show audio and custom game-specific cover art

    medium confidence · George's observation of industry podcast trends

  • Stern is developing games including Star Wars, Pokemon, and potentially Tony Hawk or other IP

    low confidence · George mentioning unconfirmed Stern development titles in casual conversation

Notable Quotes

  • “So you have Tee'd Off change all those light sockets out... The 555 sockets, they don't fit the holes.”

    Dave @ early — Describes specific manufacturing defect with 8-Ball Deluxe playfield swap

  • “I'm going Tee'd Off go there. According Tee'd Off him, they have not fixed the issue, but I have not bought another 8-Ball Deluxe playfield Tee'd Off know if that's the case or not.”

    Dave @ mid-early — Expresses uncertainty about whether CPR fixed defects in later production runs

  • “Because he didn't like the color of his skin, you know, I think you're doing a good PSA... word will get around.”

    George @ mid — Discusses racial discrimination incident and its implications for the pinball service community

  • “Imitation is a form of artless flattery... All the big boys are starting Tee'd Off take portions of our show.”

    George @ mid — Expresses frustration about larger podcast outlets copying format elements

  • “Out of the three, King Kong is clearly the best out of the three. Jaws... that was the weakest of the three The Games.”

    George @ late — Comparative gameplay assessment of recent Stern releases

  • “he takes out a big wad of hundreds... No no the rest is for you. Give me a nice big tip on top of it.”

    Dave @ mid-late — Contrasts positive customer service experience with earlier Stern warranty issues

Entities

DavepersonGeorgepersonCPR (Custom Pinball Restoration)companyStern PinballcompanyPaul Daniel BergvistpersonJoe ShortsleevepersonJohn PapadukepersonPinned and PixelscompanyStraight Down the Middle: a pinball showorganization

Signals

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    product_concern: CPR's 8-Ball Deluxe playfield swap contains multiple critical manufacturing alignment issues (light sockets, drop targets, metal post positioning, dimpling) requiring extensive corrective work

    high · Dave's detailed account of 38+ hours spent correcting CPR playfield swap defects

  • ?

    product_concern: Stern's warranty technician Joe Shortsleeve created additional problems while attempting to fix Elvira's House of Horrors back door issue

    high · Dave's account of warranty service creating a new problem (faulty palm bar switch) requiring expert repair

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Comparative gameplay assessment of three recent Stern releases at arcade location: King Kong rated positively, Jaws and Dungeons & Dragons rated negatively

    medium · George's gameplay observations at Delaware arcade: 'King Kong is clearly the best,' Jaws 'plays tired,' Dungeons & Dragons 'throw away'

  • ?

    content_signal: Multiple larger podcasts (4-5 identified) have begun copying The Classic Pinball Podcast's format elements including unedited audio and custom game-specific cover art

    medium · George's observation of industry trends and frustration about format imitation by larger media outlets

  • ?

    industry_signal: Documented case of racial discrimination against a qualified pinball technician in Boston area service industry

    high · Dave's account corroborated by multiple parties (technician, arcade owner/tech) regarding Star Wars home edition owner refusing service based on race

Transcript

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0:00
Hello, welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. Okay, folks, we're going to start with a definition. The definition, the word we're going to define is the word rant. R-A-N-T. Speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way. Tyrain, Dave the spotlight's on you. Let's talk about your 8-Ball Deluxe Playfield Swap. So is this broadcast brought to you by the letter R? R for Rant? Rant. People get it once they look at what we're calling this episode. A little bit of a rant and roll. So get rolling. Apo Deluxe LE doing a nice restore in this and playfield is pretty beat up so I got a CPR playfield from oh I don't know 10 years ago I got it at Pinfest. A guy thought I think it was 2012 or so he thought the end of the world was coming so I'm just gonna sell my playfields and go get a log cabin somewhere it's like okay dude so I bought I bought a CPR playfield Apo Deluxe and I'm gonna hire from him and didn't really look at him really just say okay they're in their boxes still okay I'm John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, translite advertis So now I finally broke it open to do this playfield swap, 8-point lux. And then I remember people saying years ago, oh, some things aren't going to line up right. This and that. It's like, okay, it should be minor stuff. It should be too bad. Well, it's pretty bad. The 555 sockets, GI sockets in the playfield don't fit the holes. So you have to change all those light sockets out, which is kind of a good practice anyway. Daddy Quinan A lot of those were made my F founder. He is a person who used to be a hoax collector and skater in club media. Nobody wanted to 빰 ljuj for some even if you made aword, he playbook, some music. But no wonder he never got in to a club that Because on this playfield you have clear plastic guides and the light has to sit, the light has to sit, the socket has to sit lower than usual on the playfield so you get clearance. So my buddy Dave Macy, I saw he did a thread on Pinsight about his 8 bottle luxe nightmare from like three years ago. He had to go through and do it three times over on this light socket replacement to get the right height for it to work right. So I learned through that. I talked to the guy who Dave was working with and found out what they use. So I only had a handful this time, this this height light socket. So I use that and I kind of modified some of mine. And then so I got it, you know, decent. But then on top of that, the drop targets don't line up right. Those are crooked. The all the other stuff in the playfield doesn't all the dimpling is wrong. So you have to this. So wait, so stop for a second. So If you're manufacturing these, how do you mess that up? Well, they would say, and it could be true, that they're going by whatever pattern they had from the 8 Ball Deluxe films or whatever they had. The 8 Ball Deluxe stuff that they got from, I don't know, Gene Cunningham years ago maybe? I don't know. Or whoever had it. Um, but like the, um, there's a particular one in, in that everyone messes up. It is a metal post with a little white rubber that goes on it right in, right between the left lane that gets you the extra ball and the inline drops. And it's supposed to sit a certain spot. Well, CPR's playfield, it sits the hole for it, they made a hole for it. I could, you know, that sits way too close to the drops. and
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    operational_signal: Discussion of proper vs. improper playfield swap restoration practices; full rebuild with alignment checking takes 3x longer than quick swaps

    high · Dave's detailed explanation of proper restoration methodology vs. shortcuts taken by some technicians

  • ?

    community_signal: Contrast between poor Stern warranty service and excellent local customer relations; positive customer feedback with generous tips

    medium · Dave's anecdote about appreciative customer tipping generously after quality repair work

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    rumor_hype: Unconfirmed speculation about Stern's pipeline including Star Wars, Pokemon, Tony Hawk, and My Little Pony games

    low · George's casual mention of unconfirmed upcoming titles; My Little Pony explicitly noted as uncertain

    • 4:19
    what happens is you throw a ball up there and the ball comes out hits that post and kinda goes out to the right it's not normal, it's not how the game's supposed to play you throw a ball up the inline drop it comes straight back down to your left flipper typically so that's messed up so I had to wind up re-drilling that hole uh, talked to John Day, he recommended also besides doing that putting a T-nut in there and kinda just instead of just doing a wood screw type of metal post This Week at Pinball Podcast But they have a little, a spot on the bottom of them, like a little extra plastic nib that when the drop target goes down, it's not flush with the playfield. Like the drops on the side is like I think seven, I think seven drops? Yeah, seven drops on the side. It doesn't go all the way down. So the ball would hit it and kind of not do the right thing. So I had to go and chop off all those and file those little nibs down. I'm going to be doing a lot of them to custom make those drop targets too. So there's a lot of on this on these playfield swaps. It's not just, oh, just re, you know, well, the right way to do is rebuild everything, throw to the new playfield, sock it all down in the right spot, good to go. Some people out there some restoration or or whatever quick fix it guys will just take the whole playfield, not really rebuild it, swap over the new playfield, sock it down still using counsel but he doesn't remember for that and customizing it to where you have to look on both sides please to make sure it's all lined up takes three times as long as it's supposed to take to do if they don't work someone haven't times colored just the play fielder and as aазam No, playfield's not done and so far I think I'm 38 hours in.
    6:49
    That's crazy. So, so is there, is there, you know, well you're not wild but you are impassioned. Who's, who's to blame? I mean, they can't have more than one pattern for this game. So, I'm going to start with the first question. So, you said you're a fan of pinball and you're a fan of pinball. What's the latest with the CPS 8-ball-to-life playfield? Well, I talked to the guy who Dave was using, the customer for Dave who did the playfield swap for it, and he said, hey, what's the latest with the CPS 8-ball-to-life playfield? He said, oh, yeah. We did that a couple years ago and they still haven't fixed the issue, supposedly. So, buyers beware. Yeah, well, no, this is according to him. I don't know that for sure. According to him, they have not fixed the issue, but I have not bought another 8-ball deluxe playfield to know if that's the case or not.
    7:46
    Well, maybe somebody will be kind enough to text or email us to tell us if they've done a swap and if they've met with the same fate. Now I did an 8-ball deluxe swap a couple years ago. I did a really nice
    8:02
    1981 version. I don't know, it must have been three or four years ago. I did a swap then, but I don't remember going, it wasn't as off as this one. So I'm thinking that that's a later rev. I'm thinking this was an earlier rev. Maybe they fixed some stuff after my earlier rev, but it's still not all the way correct. But you know, I've done so many playfield swaps and fixes, it's hard to keep track of what was what. Right, but for overall, Would you say this was probably one of the more difficult ones because things didn't line up? Yeah, yeah, because I didn't... So this one's an outlier. This one... Others seem to be better, but that's a pretty packed game too. There's a lot of stuff, especially with the seven bank, you know, seven drop targets. Well, thank God... Those are always finicky. Thank God there's only one star rollover to clean out. Because also they put way too much clear on it. They don't put a little... a guide in there so it doesn't get too much clear into the star rollover. To Target banks. Yup, and that seemed to go, that seemed, that was better. And I did a Dolly Parton one. That has inline drops. And that's, that didn't go too bad. I felt like that was less than this one. This one just seems like it's taking a lot longer overall. You know, kind of, it takes too much time to do it. It's like I really want to do one for me, I got to side a bunch of time. I want to do my $6 million man is what I like to do, but I don't know. I saw one of those for sale somewhere. What kind of money? Two grand or best offer. What kind of shape? Didn't look too bad, but I pulled up a, you know, Northern Virginia. The Edwin, this is on Craigslist. Don't go out there often. Pulled up the game in Ohio. This Week in Pinball, Game of Thronesdisciplinary Promo, Twippies Awards, translite and I didn't even put in six million dollar man, I just put in pinball and it gave me stuff from all over the East Coast, it was very strange. So okay, so my turn, my turn to rant. Go ahead, go ahead John. This is not a real rant but it's kind of, kind of a rant. I don't go to my Gmail or our gmail account, the classic pinball podcast, numeral1 at gmail.com. I don't go there often. But not only did I have one email from this person, I had about six emails from a gentleman named Daniel Bergvist. Hello from sunny Sweden. And it was about Predator. Basically, the guy called me out and said, stick to your knitting. You don't know anything about modern pinballs. I really really email. Okay, and I couldn't find it. It was a race. But I gotta say, I sent an email back. I said, Dude, you just don't get the show.
    11:42
    We rank on all new games. Is there any new game we don't rank on? Don't think so. Think about it. I thought that was kind of weird. You know, the title of it is Jungle Drums Calling. I'm like, what the hell is this? And then I read it and it's all the marketing materials. It's like, oh, if you need this marketing material or this marketing material, whatever. The only thing that I liked about the whole email was his the one the one marketing phrase. I'm going to give you a second chance for a rant. Okay. This one is called Spaceman. All right. Do you know who I speak of? Neil My Ass Tyson? Star Wars. Oh, that guy. Spongman. Yeah. Spaced Out Man. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, well, let's see. Didn't he try to contact you again? He did many, many times. And I said, I said, Dude, I got a way overloaded with stuff. I got a lot of stuff going on. I got life stuff going on. I got, you know, I am just like maxed out. So you know, I'll get to you when I get to you. But, you know, if you can find somebody else and I said, you know, I said I suggested, I suggested, you know, reach out to I'm not sure. But someone else he reached out to, I think another Boston outfit or some arcade place, And he showed up at the door and the reason why I've, oh well, the reason why I found out about this because this tech or owner of the company called me and I called him back and what's going on it's like yeah this guy, this guy, is he, what's your thing with him? It's like he's a little strange. It's like yeah. You're being really polite. Yeah in fact so. I'm a black man. I go, well, that shouldn't really be shocking. There's all colors of this world. So who, you know, what's it? I said, are we saying our friends a bit racist? And Mr. Spaceman is, yeah, we're all racist. Yes. Is he an alleged racist? Let's not get into Pinball Mind with Space Bullets. Alleged. According to the tech there. So yeah, basically he complained about me not parking in the right space and he said this and that. And basically just said, no, I don't want you coming in here and just basically just sent him on his way. So it's a good thing he was in the air anyway. He didn't have to waste his time and travel time too much. So the guy is still his game still doesn't work. He could have had a qualified tech come in there, but because he didn't like the color of his skin, you know, I think you're doing a good PSA. We have enough listeners in the greater Boston area where I think word will get around. And if a tech or somebody who does pinball repair gets a call for a Star Wars home edition, you know, to steer clear. Say, say away. Yeah, unfortunately, I feel bad for the guy until I found out that he was badmouthing me too to Mr. J and saying this and that. It's like, I'm nothing but kind to him and getting his game running from, you know, from zero. So it's like, now you burnt my bridge, and I'm pretty forgiving. So okay, putting up with your bong and putting up with your stupid drinking and stuff. Nope. Nope. Good luck. Go somewhere else. No, don't. I don't need a customer. Okay, my turn. We're going to call this one flattery. And I went and looked up the definition. And it's not the one you think. The original definition is, or phrase is, imitation is a form of artless flattery. I like that one better. Okay, sure. Now, I'm not going to, I'm going to put a caveat in front of all this. I've come up with no new ideas. All I've done is looked at television and radio and other media and taken things to make our show a little bit different. I'm going to show you how to edit your show. So, one thing I started doing early because I hated doing it is editing our show. Now, I might do a couple of edits, but I don't edit our show. It's, you hear it as it comes out of our mouths. Well, guess what? One of us, another podcaster is starting to do the same thing. Oh, really? I'm not gonna call people out, you know who they are. But this is the one that struck me the other day. Been around, these two have been around for a long time. They're actually gonna play a game on their podcast. Hmm. I wonder who did that a long time ago. I don't know, I'll think of it George, let me think. Right. Alright. Okay. So, then there's the other one, which is if you go out and look at the pod catchers, you know, everybody's got their cool graphics for their show. And, you know, I've got our crappy, you know, whatever the vendor had available for clip art, and I made a logo because I'm not a graphic artist. But I started taking pictures of the game or the I don't know whatever we were going to talk about in our... Sure. Oh, guess what? It's not just one podcast now. There's about four or five of them who do it now. Wow. So I just keep looking and saying look, I didn't invent any of this stuff. But...
    19:09
    Flattery Well like I said Imitation is a form of artless flattery Well it an imitation is a form of sincerest flattery That what it is It flattery but you don really get it Right, but this, that phrase, imitation is a form of artless flattery, was even before that phrase. So, you all know who you are because you all listen to us. And you're taking these little things and going, oh, hey, maybe he's on to something there. So, what little audience we have, all the big boys are starting to take portions of our show. You know what? Here's what it is, George, because we're a little podcast because we're not like them. They're on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all the other stupid social media crap that we don't really want to bother with the best we can. But to our own detriment, we don't really get out there. But the people that are mining the good stuff that we have, it's like, oh, we can go mine their stuff, copy This week in P Tumb殖�장 is your host Gard答필 not as successful as anybody, but suddenly continues to stand outゆ199 this time we won't look back on my old everyone these guys are culture gladians Our incase IDG that has been defaggotized at the feet of a bear he's gonna have roughly three indeed and I'm off red least well and guys that were able to I'm trying to go there. Which rant? Oh, that one. Yeah, let's just say I like to I'm trying to be a little more choosy client wise because sometimes if I don't keep the filters up, I let the you know, let the riffraff and yeah, let the not so good fish come in when I'm trying to get the, you know, the nice sushi grade tuna. So you're getting it. You're getting a dog. 2 4 5 7 Yeah, otherwise, no, pretty good. It is. There's been a couple go backs I've had to do and usually I don't like the old, the old go back situation and I'm usually pretty good with them. Actually, hold it. Can you hear that in the background? No. Good. Okay, I have a thought. So I have a couple of go backs for you. Okay. One is we need to do a better job when we talk about people. Now there are two Scots that we talk about on a Well, I'm thinking about two and you'll know who these two are. Okay. So the one is who you talked about last week or last show last month with the wormtown on tap. We will call him Scott Barn or Scott Bar Barn or Scott Pinball Bar Barn. That's a math foal. And then we have who I will call Scott Chips. Scott Chips is who I bought my blackjack from. Yes, yes, yes. I thought you said potato chips. Now I understand. He's referred to on another program as R. Scott. I didn't know that they exclusively had him as... But anyway, so people know who the Scotts are. We need to tell people. I know you know other Scotts, but those are the two main we usually talk about. Yep. Okay, so let's get that out of the way. That's done. I got another thing. This goes in the forgetful pile. This one's aimed at you. Okay. So last show you said, oh, I rented another Pacifica. Oh, there's a story. I'll tell it later. Well, guess what? You never told the story. So make it short. All right. If it's pertinent. One thing back to one thing back to Scott for a second. Which Scott? Well, you'll see. Hold on. Scott! Okay. That's what I want. I like that one. Thank you. Okay. So when we talk about Scott, we're going to have to use that. Yes. Okay, good. So, so what was it with the Pacifica? Is it something pertinent? Make it short. It's people really don't care about rental cars. Okay, the first experience with this with the Pacifica, did we get into that? That a problem finding in between pinball Lanka Turns Time when께va pacang framework is shade Gina ыв张spr банھ eseder b HUUge I got a high mile one and a little a rattly a little bit on the stinky side but not too bad uh it is kind of a little little rattly I tried to kind of get rid of the rattles I tried to uh put an ozone machine in there it's just like here we go again and on top of it it was twice as expensive double the price of the nice one about a month earlier I asked him a question why Oh, well because right now we're coming into summer, everybody wants one of these for their family truckster vacations. That makes, that does make sense, supply and demand. And double the price. That doesn't make it right, but it makes sense. Double the price, half the quality. Double the miles. And double the miles? It wasn't double the miles, more than that. Oh, more? No, the first car we got, the first Pacifica was like 8,000 miles. This one was like, I don't know, 38,000 miles? What, hard miles? There's a lot of different asses in that seat over the 38,000 miles. The So word to the wise If you've got somebody good Just give them a little bit of praise don't make them seem like they are the best things and sliced bread
    25:57
    Yeah, unfortunately, I just wish yeah because I hate to see things go but you know, but speaking of praise I got a really good customer I just had and I'll actually I'll go back into I can do a little stern bashing or some stern bashing. Sure. Okay, all right Alright, so this customer was in Newton. He got a brand new Elvira House of Horrors. And from like day one, he had a problem. There's a section of the skill shot in the back of the castle called the back door. Oh yeah. Okay, because Elvira's always You know there's a joke there, right? Of course. What's it say when you hit that switch? Oh, you snuck in the back door. Oh, I thought it was you like it in the back door? It could be one of those two. I wouldn't doubt it with her, with what she would do. I wouldn't doubt it. Sorry, I'm laughing at my own joke. No, but I think the game is pretty sexual like that. So I'm sure it's all about those little innuendos. So I guess from day one, the ball will get stuck back there and you You have to shake the game, tilt it for it to kick it out. Hold on a second, let me get rid of this here. Okay, there. You have to shake, yeah. You have to shake the game, kick it out. So, Tim, a local, you know, good retailer, Pinned and Pixels, who sells, you know, distributed for Stern, he sold them the game, so this person, the owner, called Stern. Stern called him back, Showed him some stuff online about how, you know, what the problem is probably going to be. Send some parts out. And the guy said, I don't know anything about this stuff. And in this customer, he had dough. He doesn't want to touch anything. He wants to just pay somebody knowledgeable to fix it instead.
    27:50
    So. So instead, he called back to a Tim, even though you can send over. Well, let me see. So he Tim contacted Stern and Stern said, OK, I'll send a warranty guy over. Now Stern used to use me for warranty years ago when I first started out and my prices were you know when I first started out kind of pricing well now I'm 30 years in I'm an expert in my field so my prices are aren't really you know the opening salvo of pricing so they got this guy Joe Shortsleeve to come over there and he fixed the issue but then caused another issue so the guy called the guy basically said you know what I'm done working with Stern and warranty. I'm just going to find an expert. So he found me and I said, yeah, I can take care of that. So went there, looked at it, found a weird problem with an opto, the sendo opto for the backdoor thing. Whenever you would, any kind of pop bumper or any kind of shaking in the game would make the opto light twitch a little bit like flicker on and off, which would cause a false hit. ーん I'm going to go to the bar switch where you... Hold on a second. What is that thing doing? Turn around. That's not going to work. Oh my God. We got the trash guy here. I think he's new. He's trying to do a ten point turn in our circle with a huge truck. You're supposed to go up the thing and back down the thing. Not turn the whole truck around. As long as he doesn't hit your car, you're good. Or your house. He's going to hit somebody's car. Well, hopefully it's not yours. I'm the one that's not yours. Boy oh boy. He is not too bright. Okay so, I can continue with the Stern thing if you'd like. No, hold on, let me finish. This guy just distracted me because he's a freaking idiot. Boy oh boy. Okay. So anyway, so where I was going with that was, refresh your memory. Uh, they used to call you it. You were too expensive. Anyway, no that's not it. They didn't want to say it. I'm in there and I fix the thing and I saw the palm bar that switch wasn't working with a lit up switch on the palm bar where you hit it. The light was on but nobody's home. So that was basically the switch was just maladjusted. I don't know how it got bent out of the way. Fixed that. And I said, while we're here, do you want to get rid of all this cheapo stern black rubber and put in some nice clear stuff? Yeah, yeah, do your thing. So I gave it a nice little refresh. It only had 300 plays on it and cleaned the playfield. And then at the end of the day, I said, I told him that when it cost he goes oh hold on takes out a big wad of hundreds. Love it. And he comes and I said oh you gave me too much. No no the rest is for you. Give me a nice big tip on top of it. There you go. Oh yeah so this this is like now this is a good customer that's like I want more of that customer you know. Five stars next to his name in the database. Exactly, exactly. Okay so I have a Stern story. Sure. So last show I told people that we were going to the beach for a week to Bethany Beach, Delaware. And across the street from where we stayed was an arcade, predominantly kiddie arcade, but they do have three machines. And the reason I love going there in June, not in September is all three machines were new, brand new or close to brand new. And the three machines were Dungeons and Dragons, King Kong, and Jaws. I'll say the following. Out of the three, Kingkong is clearly the best out of the three. Jaws, I just, that's gotta be one of the weaker, I know they sell a lot of them, but maybe it's just not set up right, but that was the weakest of the three games. It just plays tired. SS Chum Bucket. Yeah, it just, well, plus I watched the movie, I think two more times since I last talked to you. So I wanted it. I wanted to like it, but nah, not so good. And Dungeons and Dragons throw away. I do not like that game.
    32:37
    Yeah, I didn't like what I saw at that game either. Wasn't really a big fan of it. So, King Kong, good. Other two games, not so hot. Yeah, King Kong, when I played it at Pinfest, that was a decent game. I think it's going to give good competition to Godzilla, might be a good one-two punch. I think a lot of people who own Godzilla most likely will go out and buy that game as well. And of course, the lead up is going to be, I'm sure Stern's going to do a Godzilla vs. Kong game down the road. I would think there's probably a pretty good probability, but they're already talking about the next Stern game. Star Wars or what's the other thing? Pokemon? Yeah, some Star Wars, some Pokemon and... No, I know the last one. I know the last one. Who's the skateboard dude? Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk No, well Tony Hawk but the one they're gonna do that's got a whole bunch of people excited about is My Little Pony. That's coming out. I don't think so but okay. Are we done here at the third floor? And it's gonna be the music in it is gonna be Pink Pony Club from that idiot singer. Talented singer. Whoever that Pink Pony Club person is that whatever she is. I don't know what that is. I'm a little bit nervous. Yeah, you don't want to. She's on MTV Music Awards or something recently. I thought you were going to talk about your favorite Lizzo, but I guess not. It's close. It's the same talent pool. What, none? Yeah, exactly. Okay, I think we're at 35 minutes. Yeah, we got two minutes remaining on this one. I have one more thing. Short one. All right. Thank you to you. I love my bug assault. I'm doing my part to save fruit trees and grapevines. Open season on lanternflies. And now, so here, when George told me this a couple days ago, said, George, are you killing those nice little lightning bugs with the light? It looks like Midsummer Night's Dream. That's bad, George. That's mean. No, no, they're lanternbugs. Do they have any light on them? No, they're a moth. Okay, all right. Kill the moths. I don't care. Just don't kill the cute little Midsummer Night's Dream lightbugs with a nice little light on them. Those are nice. A lanternbug, that's from good old China. Good old China, I think, brought those over, didn't they? No, no. Open season. They encourage people to kill these. So if you're in another part of the world, you might not know what these are. I'm going to do George for you. I think next upgrade I'm going to get you the bump stock version of that one. I'll give you a bump stock on your bug assault. Nah, I'll never use it. You know why? Because I put that thing as far out as I can on my arm and get as close as I can to that bug so it's a one shot and over. That's a gift that keeps on giving. I'm glad I picked a nice one for you. Oh yeah. No, no, no. I love that thing. They thought I was crazy, but I love my bug assault. I need to get one actually. I don't have one myself. We have some flies once in a while that sneak into the house when they leave the door open. You might want the tennis racket instead. That works real good too. The electrified tennis racket. Oh, we have those. They see it and they run. But they see it. They're smart. They see it and they run. They start buzzing around. You got to get them on a surface and then just put it on top of them. But Steve was telling me, he goes, you know that there are challenges where people put their tongue on that thing. I think, well, the caveat there is young people. What's up, doc? I'll tell you what's up, doc. Well, let's see here. We got a, uh, what do we do? How about a Blackwater 100? What kind of game? What manufacturer and what year? That's from the not so good years of Bally. The Stone Age? When? Late 80s Bally. Okay. When there wasn't much money in pinball or Bally or whatever. They kind of phoned it in. It's their answer to Banzai Run. This is like a rusty... Oh, it's got the big backbox and everything? Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, no, wait, sorry, sorry, sorry. While you're talking, I'll bring it up. Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's their answer to Banzai Run. Does not have a big backbox like that. No. They cheaped out and didn't do that, but they wanted to get the flavor of that. So they had all kinds of plastic ramps and multi-levels and almost like a rollercoaster ride on the game. You really don't really... What is pinball Shooter Lane You supposed to shoot the ball It goes up and around and stacks in this area Then it shoots another ball out Shoot the ball stack in the area Another ball Shoot the ball So you have to manually shoot three balls in this area before the game even starts You have to load you have to preload the balls yourself Then it goes ram ram ram ram and it goes like the red yellow green light This gate drops down All three balls come down from the top of the playfield Pinball right from the start? Right from the start. Yeah, because you're supposed to be, Black Water 100 is supposed to be a dirt bike racing thing, so you get the three balls like dirt bike racing. Oh, that's not what I was thinking. I thought it was a military game. No. Oh. Black Ops. That's Black Ops. Okay, well, you know, close. It was the Clintons, it would be Black Whitewater. You know, that kind of thing. That's for a lot of old school people. Hold on. Let me get my, let me get my, my bell here. Hold on, bell. Where's the bell? Oh boy. Let's see it now. Where's the real bell?
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    How's that? Now you hear it. I had to turn, I had to freaking, I don't know, so much noise there I had to turn off the filtering. Anyway. So, so yeah, so that game starts like that, has a bunch of different flippers on the game. I think it's got flippers up by your lockdown bar, flippers down on the playfield. Flipper is an upper playfield lots of plastic lots of balls roll around not way too much to hit just keep shooting balls up in these so what was wrong with the game well multiple things so this was a . . . Rusty Scupper. Yeah its a rusty skupper like I said . . . So you go inside so he got this game from somebody I dunno ten twenty years ago I know he got it from me got from the complete game stir in Waltham when they were selling games years ago They sold a hot dog in years ago. They sold an 8-ball champ years ago. They have a big picture window on the main street in Waltham and you go by and see a game there. People walk by and they buy a game once in a while. I think they had an embryo on at one point. So somehow they got this game. I know where they got it from. They got it from the bottom of the sea. That's why it's called Blackwater.
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    Because you go inside, it's like, wow, it's rusty crap everywhere. That's why it's called Blackwater. He's had a problem with剛剛 I turned a little bit the system in part YouTube and you you may have noticed we have one thing that I'm sort of sticks and using that is some of the evaluating life is falling down through the history around punishment and binary right following the time of the house however when you get caught up in a oil and you get some of the loop is you to This is one of the first few games that actually had an opto trough board assembly in it. And it was very, very basic. And I noticed someone tried to do some work on that before. So I restarted an opto on and I looked I took my camera and you can see the lights are on it. And that was working. I put it all back in and lo and behold, it actually worked. Like, okay, I think you're working. But you also you also have for elastic rubber bands around the kickers and around the behind rubber bands. No, worse. Worse than that. Worse than bands, you know, rubber bands you get, you know, O-rings. Never mind O-rings you get, the real thing you get. No, he had, or someone did, the vegetable thing you go to the grocery store, wrap it around your celery. Yeah, he had those on around the kickers. That's not even a rubber band. No. Well, it's kind of, yeah, it's like a thick piece of flat rubber, it's all black, and you wrap it around. Oh, that kind. Okay, yeah. I'm thinking about the big twist type, the mega Twist type. No, like asparagus, like asparagus. Okay, okay, now I'm with you, okay. Yeah, so he had a couple there, he had one behind the drop targets and it's like, this ain't right. So I said, let me just, you know, so I just basically, you know. Was he just uninformed or stupid? I don't know, he's a foreigner. Uninformed. Yeah, uninformed. Call me boy. Uninformed. Knapp, a little, kind of a weird guy. Eccentric guy. He's German. That explains quite a bit. Yeah, but he's okay. But, you know, so then he emailed me back saying, oh, I'm upset because the game doesn't work again. It's the same thing. It's like, you're kidding me. So I went back there. Oh, this is the go back to square one? Oh, this is the go back. Go back number one. Go back. Oh, no, not more than once. Oh, it's more than once. Oh, this is go back two. Oh, Dave. I'm a little bit of a fan of the game. I've played it three times. So hopefully you're scratching this game off. If somebody calls you and says, I have a Black Water, you just say no. Yeah, I'm kind of getting to that point with some of these games and some of the Data East stuff out there. I've been kind of burnt on some of that lately, just the way they do things. The Data East stuff is not really built very well and neither is this Valley stuff from the late 80s. So, I don't know. There's a lot of other games to work on. I'm busy with those. Closed captioning uploaded on start butt.jpg
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    The And all these things were missing their Their nyliner the nyliner is a white bushing So things the things line up things line up and they go smoothly this thing was metal on metal It's like okay that maybe that's why it's not so you mean never rubber band to go in there No, he didn't open the thing up. I don't even think I don't even think he put rubber bands on I think he got it from the gamester that way
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    So he got it from the complete game so that way I'm pretty sure that's what happened there So right now you're frozen on the screen George. It's interesting. Oh yeah you're back. You're frozen for a second. I was, you were frozen too. Okay. We were both frozen. Both frozen. Now we're unfrozen. So I don't think he did the rubber band stuff. I think the broccoli or asparagus situation, that was from the complete gamester I think. Or someone who sold it to them. So, I basically got rid of all that crap put in some nice rubber although the guy didn't really care. I should have put, I had El Cheapo rubber. I should have put that. Yeah, don't you have the box of crap rubber? I do. I didn't have it on me. So I used the good stuff. I should have. Oh, Dave, you carry that all the time. I know. The box of Pre-Rubber. I gave all my rubbers away. Yeah, I got all that crap. You know, it still works for the El Cheapo, you know, customer but these days. The guy who uses rubber bands from produce. Yeah, or doesn't know the difference. So, so anyway, so look in there, it's okay, he needs an eyeliner and, and, and so I think I didn't, I didn't think I had the eyeliners on me. So basically, I just say, I'll just take a little bit of, I don't know what I did. I think I just, I mean, you know, like, oh, this time, I didn't, I didn't actually see that this time. I'm just going to change out the boards on it, the trough boards, and I'm going to put in some niliners. So go back number two. I put a niliner in there, right? I put the boards in there. I think I just did the boards. I think I just did the boards. And then it was working great. I think I put a little bit of lube instead of niliner. I didn't have a niliner. I put some lube on there. That was going back and forth nice. I did the same thing to some of the flippers. I'm a little loob on there say okay that should get you going you know he has produce rubber on the game who cares you know he doesn't so I I didn't have the crap on me so I said try this out and see how you do oh about a week later oh I'm very upset you know so now I said don't cash a check because I cancel a check it's like okay well I wasn't I wasn't gonna cash it anyway until you're ready until I heard back from you so whatever so all right I'll come back again this time I'm gonna bring my nylon I'm going to talk to John Dea about it. He said, oh, we had a problem with a customer he worked on. Same setup. It wasn't just a nylon liner. It was actually this other, there's a bushing that Bally didn't put in. They should have put in. It's like a white flipper bushing that should be there. Like, okay, I'll bring that with me too. And you have to customize it and cut it. Oh, no, not one of those little white discs that goes in the linkage. No, this is like, you know, a white bushing like that goes in a flipper assembly, the flipper base. Oh, okay, that kind of bushing, okay. Yeah, that kind of thing. So I brought that with me, I brought a hacksaw with me, so I was ready to, so time number three, to get this stupid game running finally.
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    So it was all set to really kick its ass, and so I put the nylon, I put the nylon in there, and actually it worked great. I didn't have to put the other, I didn't have to use a hacksaw at all, and then I just played the game, and it played flawlessly. I kept starting game after game after game. It served the ball, ball, ball constantly. Didn't have a problem. And I showed the guy, cause this time here, I wasn't gonna charge him with this one. This was a freebie. I'm glad it was a quick freebie. I was in and out of there in about 15, 20 minutes. And then he paid, then he finally paid me another check for the time I was there before. So now I'm all paid up. He got some free work done by me, all set. So now he's, he's out of there. But yeah, that was, see the problem with this one here, David Van Es, Knapp Arcade.
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    I think we should change the name of the show. Two Old Guys Bitching? Two Bitchy Pinballers. Alright, sounds good. I like it. Let's see. Oh, this is a good one. Manchester by the Sea, Godfather. A Godfather C-E-L-E, whatever the top notch Godfather. The SuperDuper one? SuperDuper Lights and Light Show. Does it have all the gold stuff on it? All the gold crap on it, oh yeah. And an Elton John super duper with all the disco ball and all that kind of stuff. That was on it too. Top first. Oh, that's right. That game's got a disco ball. Oh, and two LCD screens on the top and all kinds of just crap. And he thought the game was malfunctioning. He wants me to do some other little stuff on it. The uh... and so the one up there I power both games on the both working fine it's like what is it's a long what was the second game Elton John okay with a with a with a top runner with a disco ball into a lady screens and although I thought the godfather you froze before so I thought you were talking about godfather with the disco ball. I'm sorry. No, no, they both have lots of toppers lots of crap on them they both of the super duper light show. Right, he likes He likes the mods and the crap. Yeah, the Craptastics. Yeah, so I looked at both of them and they both were kind of working pretty well. So, what is your issue with these games? So, it's like, well the spinner's not really working. I said, okay, so the spinner from the factory wasn't right. I had to actually tweak the spinner. I had to bend something and fix something in the spinner. What's that? That was Godfather. I showed him how to do the settings in the game. The settings were wrong inside the door. I received all the USB and LAN ports. I received all the USB and lamp boards because they said they had a lampboard error at one point and I can never find it. It never happened to me. So I think I may say, okay, while I'm here, why not just change out all this junky rubber? So clean the, go to the stupid black crap, these black cheap rubber. Someone got a sale on this stuff. Oh, they do it too. JJP does it too. Yeah, they do. I thought they were just doing clear all the time, but they don't. So they do it some, especially on the Godfather because it's a really, it's a black and red game. So they want to do black and red. It's like, well, Well, that's nice, but we're not doing the black. So I got rid of all that and put in the good stuff and cleaned it up and it came out great and paid me and having her back for him. So he's happy. And Elton John did the rubber for that game too. Oh, they do black on that game too? I don't remember. I think they, I think it did. I don't know. That game didn't need as much. No, I think the, no, that game, I think it's clear and it had some black rubber. So I changed out whatever colors I wanted. I want to change I just want to make it more upgraded to whatever it was. I got rid of all the cheap crap whatever I could find and put in the good stuff. Right. That's what I did with that one. Then I got a James Bond in down in Franklin 007. Which one? The was it Dr. No? I think it's Dr. No. Yeah, Dr. No. Or was it wait a minute. Wait, Franchivelope. There's from Russia with love, I think. Yeah, I think it was that one. That's that's the premium. So lot that he had 2500 plays in this. I'm a fan of the old game. I don't know, two to five minutes per game. A new game, you could be on there from five to fifteen minutes. That's a lot of playtime. So, 2500 plays at gameplay. Don't they have that as one of the settings on the game that you can get all how many minutes have been played, etc.? Yeah, I think so. Lon't forget some words, know how to say them. We had a special quote today on a couple of comments that were posted throughout the So it's probably like 25,000 plays on an older game. Plays it every day, lots of broken stuff on it. I just noticed how crappy the artwork goes in these new games. Like a digital print, it's all, if you look at, go up close and personal on a new Stern playfield artwork, especially on this one. It's all just, the blacks aren't black, they're more like a CMYK or CMY black. So it's sort of a brownish black they use. So it's all this digital print stuff with no true black, very pixelated. So I wasn't a big fan of that. And it just need a lot of a lot of broken stuff fixed on it. Like I think coil stops and that kind of stuff. And he broke the EOS switches, of course, on it. So that took a little bit of time. That was that was like a little bit of a day spa on that one. What else we do? Bullwinkle. Right. But that's a good straightforward one. That's not, you know, The guy just played it. He probably should have repaired it earlier, but he played it. He got to the point where, okay, a lot of stuff's broken, now it's time to bring somebody in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because he plays the crap out of it every day. Then I got the new Medieval Madness, the Medieval Madness remake. Oh, the remake? How's that? I'm actually it's pretty nice they do a pretty nice job with it I think this is from years many years ago when they did this you know the people gonna shout out who who does it but there's a company the second remake not the one that's out there right now no the the one that the second remake the one they first did the first Is the one just came out? A new one? Yes. How long has it been out for? Couple years I think. Okay, maybe it's that one. It must be that one. But what's the game I'm thinking of that everybody went bonkers on like 20 years ago because the guy had the stash of all the parts? Oh, no, no, you're thinking of... Medieval Madness is the one with the castle, right? Okay, now you can't hear that truck. Meneval menace and won't the castle to explode. You are thinking of Big Bang Bar. Ah, correct. That's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, you're thinking Big Bang Bar. Okay, negate that. Go ahead. Yeah. Continue with your story. Different game.
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    So, see, George, we got to stay in our lane. You can't talk about new games like that guy said. Well, because I don't know anything about them. I mean, I like playing them. I know that it's fairly new. I knew Chicago Gaming made it. I know don't hold, you know, don't hold on. I can't even say that. Never mind. Well, here's the thing with me I kind of know these games cuz I have to cuz I work on them So I have some kind of clue about am I a big fan and an tournament guy on them? No, I ought to fix them So I can talk about them. So I you know, I go by, you know quality of the game. So Castle didn't work It doesn't go boom or the car link in the description If Pull I'm 5 0 00 So here, try out a game, see how you think it's, how it plays. He's playing it. He went to ball five, then ball six. He's on ball six, they go, how many balls per game do you have this set to? Oh, I have it on ten balls per game.
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    Wow. You have a ramp game on ten balls per game. That's insane. A ramp game lasts frickin' all day on ball, on three balls. Never mind ten balls. You hope you have a month.
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    You know, he wants to set the high score. I guess he must have the high score. I think it'd be great if I got the high score on three balls.
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    He must not be very good either. Probably not. At ten balls, probably not. I don't really know. I didn't really see. Oh, here's the story. So Funland. Funland that I was going to buy from a guy in Allentown at the show. Right You told part of the story last show I believe Right but I have a whole I have a part two Oh there more to it now Yeah yeah yeah there more to it There more to it So I just give a quick refresher Okay And we last left our heroes with the Funland. I was gonna buy this Funland. I had a guy lined up who was gonna bring one to the show. And I said, oh yeah, great, I'll take that. It's in pretty decent shape. I can work it up. It was a pretty good starting point. I got a guy down the Cape who Jones it for one forever. He had his he played as a kid and really wants one in his game room. I think it's gonna be his only game. It's a wedgehead Gottlieb. So I said, okay. So the guy from the Cape contacted me months ago. Then I found the Funland guy. Great. And I said, okay, I'll take that. Bring it to the show. I'll pay you when I get to the show. Then I try to find the guy's number and his contact information. I couldn't find it. Couldn't find it. It's like, well, I got to let the guy know. I was like, I don't know that I can't have his fun lands because I don't have the guy's number anymore. I lost his contact for me. I don't know where the hell it went to. I looked through my Gmail and everything. I can't find it. So I said, listen, my buyer, I was going to restore your game. I wanted to tell the truth about it. I was going to restore your game and then I have a buyer for it. It's like, oh, okay, well, can you send me my deposit back? And so he was kind of hemming and hawing about it. It's like, just send back my $200. You'll be able to sell it. So he did. Then he put out a thing on Pinside saying, well, I want to sell it to you. I want to sell it to you. I want to sell it to you. I want to sell it to you. I want to sell it to you. I want to sell it to you. I want to sell I'm going to sell my fun land but not to anybody that's going to resell it. Now I'm not a pinball flipper. I'm not going to resell it. I'm going to value add. I'm going to take the game, go through it and restore it, bring it to the next level and sell it. I'm not just going to buy it from you. A, might be embarrassed. B, doesn't like you calling him out that the game isn't as nice as it could be. I never called him out. I never said that. I basically just said. I am now but F him. I don't care. The guy's a goofball. I never saw him. You're going to say something else. He's probably that too. Yeah, yeah. He's just, yeah, he's, I don't know, an asshat, I'd say. So he never got, then, I don't know, I think he must have sold or something. I got back to him later after I let it go, like about maybe a week or two later, the guy reached out to me. I was like, oh, I put it online. I put it on my YouTube account. Hey, I got a fun land here and I put the picture of it out and finally he finally saw my thing. He saw my SOS like reach out to me and he did. And it's like, well, you're a little too late to the party because now I let the thing go, but I'll try to get it back. I reached out to him. I got dead air. I saw his ad. I reached out to him. Dead air. It's like, okay, this guy's moved on. So then I started just searching around, searching around. Then I found even a better Sale of the year at You were saying this? This is in Brigantine! Yeah that one. So I found that one and this one looked even better than the other. This one actually had a repainted cabinet. It had the playfield look clean he had you know all LEDs not a big fan of that but it played well, I think it has a brand-new back glass in it. So you already went to Brigantine and got it? I basically called my buddy Hall and Oates. Yeah, Flash. Yeah, Flash, Rob. He said, I'll get that game for you. So he's giving me a little bit of a deal on it too, because it's a pain in the ass for him to go. It's a lot of time for him to go get it. So it was kind of a lofty price, but he gave me a break because I'm getting him to pick up three other games for me in Connecticut. He's going to bring to me pretty soon. He's going to be dropping off four games here in one fell swoop on August 31st. So I'm getting... I'm a little bit of a crapload coming in. So hopefully the fun land, it sounds like a lot of good work's been done on it, so it won't be too bad for me to kind of go through and, you know, go collect on it and deliver that one. So that's the fun land. So that fun land's a good thing the first one didn't work out. This one was waiting in the wings for me. It had my name on it. Things happen for a reason. Okay, so we're talking about places. How about we have a new segment? We're going to give it a formal name. Places we will go. Alright, places we will go. You go a lot of places. I go places. Okay, sure. Okay. Well, I got three quickies, okay? Alright. Ready? Yeah. First one. New restaurant. Gainesville, Virginia. Green and Grog. Two great guys who own the place. Yep. Eric, Jackpot Pinball in Percival, Virginia. I was next door having brunch and didn't even know that it was next door. 40 games, some real nice games in there, new and old. Shout out to Eric at Jackpot Pinball. I keep saying Jackpot. Jackpot Pinball. Yeah, that sounds familiar, Jackpot Pinball. So a double there. No, I know him. I know him. You know Eric? Yeah, he was at, he was at, he was at, uh... Do you know Eric's last name? No, but I know him and his wife worked together. I haven't met him. I'm gonna go interview him. He was at, he was at Pinfest. He probably was! Yeah, he had a whole big thing there. You were there at Pinfest, weren't you? You, didn't you show him? I showed you. Oh, you froze again. You froze again. Okay, remember he had the set up there he had he was doing all the black night stuff and all he's doing restorations and stuff. You want to get a no. Okay, well, no. He had a suit of armor there a suit of armor next to the black night. Remember that he had a whole big suit of armor that you want to sell on the show. I don't remember. Sorry. Anyway, I was gonna I was gonna interview him and you said I wouldn't do that because he could be your competition. Tanya, why don't you say no to this interview? You said no to this interview. Remember that? Yes, I do remember that. That's the guy. That's the guy. I remember saying that but I don't remember anything else. I remember saying that though. He's a nice guy. He does a nice job. So now I shouldn't shout him out? That's alright. He's down that way. It's fine. Okay. He's got nice games. He gets good money for what he does. But it looks like he does a lot of He spends a lot of time on them to get them the way he does. This Week upon that nee Wei providers That's number one. I thought I was going to make this quick. Here's number two. Are you aware that Chuck E. Cheese, you know, the Rat Palace, has a new bar arcade concept for adults?
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    No, what's it called? Chuck's Arcade. Real creative. I'll read you the headline. Wanted new arcade for adults in 10 states. There's two nearby you, Dave. Both in malls. Both in malls, okay. Nashua and Salem, New Hampshire. Okay. Yeah, I know, you're gonna run right out and go see it. Anyway. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait to go get my Chuck E. Cheese tokens. Okay, so here's the last one. And then I got one thing after that. I think I'm bagging going to Houston in November because I really don't feel like getting on an airplane. And I'm like, I don't know, I just was off it. So I'm going to do something closer. You're going to say, Hollywood Casino in Washington, Pennsylvania has something called Starport Arcade. 100 machines. That sounds pretty nice. Hey, back to one quick little thing, back to Chuck E. Cheese and what's it called? What's the new name for the adult one? Chuck's Place. Chuck's Place? Chuck. That's what it said. Okay. Yeah, Chuck. Watch out, Chuck. Alright, that's what I say about that, okay? Oh no, Chuck's Arcade. What did they call it? Chuck's Place? Yeah. A concept called Chuck's Arcade. Yeah, well here you go. Yeah. That's what you get. Okay. Do you get that? You know what the sound effect is, George? Yes, that's from The Price is Right. Yes, you do know. That's the fail zone. Right. Anyway. The rest of the audience is saying George is funny. Washington Casino. Washington Casino. A hundred machines, but it's also near another famous arcade called Helicon Brewery. Now, I found out something different about each one. Helicon, where you actually play pinball in the brewery with all the tanks and stuff, which is pretty cool, If you're watching this at the Hollywood Casino, that also has a racetrack and a bowling alley and a assortment of other crap, they only buy premiums. What did you say? When you say pros, do you mean they have prostitutes on site? No, no, no, no, no. That's in the parking lot. Okay. That was a lot, lizards. So, I think we're going to go there instead. So I thought of this before we got online. If you live nearby and you want to play pinball with me, you can find me at our website, not our website, our email, theclassicpinballpodcast1 at gmail.com. What's it cost to play with you, George? Are you charging a celebrity fee? I'm going to go bowling. I'd never go bowling. All I kept thinking of was Eric Stone, one of his other passions and things he's good at, I guess. He's back in town right now. He's back at Fun Spot, I hear. I don't hear directly from him. Once in a while, I dabble into my Facebook page and see what's going on there. I hate going on Facebook because it winds up sucking you in, so I try to get the hell out of there. I'm a friend of his on the Facebook thing, so the virtual thing. Okay, I have one last thing. Look at your screen. Look at me. Yep. Oh, God. Not that. Let's talk about our friend Grant. Yeah. Did you get his latest email? I did. The centaur thing. Yeah. He's a mad dog. He's crazy. He does a lot of work. That's a lot of work. I thought I spent all my free time in... He spends so much time masking that thing and spraying that thing. It's gonna look nice. I only saw a couple pictures because my email didn't take them all in, but he does nice work. So I'm holding up Dave Grohn because I'm holding up a jar of Vegemite. The That he sent us a couple months back and it expires next month now He told me I should eat this stuff on toast But I would go as far as to be bold right this minute and
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    Take a spoonful and eat it. I go and I'll watch you Now wait, now wait a minute. What did you do with your jar because you got the same thing? Are you reading a book? I'm free. Or do I wait till next month to do this? Is this a good tease for next month? It's a tease. Let's do it next month. So you can watch me retch and gag? We've had it for six months. That's fermented, isn't it? It is. It'll last a good long. I think it's like spam. You know what? I've looked this up. I truly don't get it. But I don't get a lot of things in life. It's spam. You don't need to have a beer. No, there's no... It's, it's like a... I know, but it's... It's a yeast. You don't... It's... The only way you ingest yeast is in a beer. Right, so there you go. Put it in beer. Well, no, I'm gonna have a beer next to me when I have this. Good idea. I mean... A little massive taste. A bottle of water, mouthwash, what else? All our Australian office, all the people who listen to us, all three of them, are probably throwing stuff at their phone right now. Probably. Damn Yankee, what's wrong with him?
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    I'm done. That's all my crap. Alright, let's see. Do I have any other little tidbits here? Uhhhhh... If not, we've got a couple of minutes left, right? Yeah, we have... Hmm... Four minutes left. Okay, so make it quick so we don't have to do another one. Oh. Well I will say, here's a little factoid. Classics are like an old 50's car. You buff the metal like a chrome bumper. I'm a fan of the old games. The new games have a lot of plastic, like a plastic card today. You don't have any chrome. So the old games take a lot more effort to go, I got to do a, take things to the buffer for a couple hours buffing session. That's like the 8-Bot Luxon right now. I have to buff a lot of stuff on it. It takes so much more time than a, than a ramp game to do. So there's that. I just want to get that out there. And then one other thing. Oh, the other thing too, um, flying on a, on a flight. So I haven't gone in a while, like since 2014, but I hear they try to, I think that's a while. Is that a while? Yes, that's a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. I'm probably not far behind you though. No, I did, no, I went on a plane two years ago. Never mind. Well, things change. So, you know, now they change and you don't take your shoes off anymore. That's a good thing. It is a good thing. It was stupid from day one. I don't wear socks. It's a really good thing. It's, it's, yeah, but, but they are having... Do you ever see my feet? No. Do you have like Dorito toe chips? No. I don't. You know what I'm saying? Anyway. That's a joke. So, um, yeah. So what they're doing is they are implementing quicker lines this way. All you gotta do is go on this line and, but they say this is the line to go with and you, it scans your face, scans your retina and I think it does a fingerprint or something. And your bank account and your sperm count. All kind of invasive junk. And a lot of people don't know this. They just go along. I'll just go along for safety and do this. They don't see the very bottom of it where it says you can opt out. You can opt out and say no. I don't want to do this. Oh, you can go to the line over here instead and opt out. Like just like everything at the airport. So I know what I'm doing next time when I go. I'm opting out.
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    My daughter-in-law didn't get the chance to opt out. Hey given yourself that і way. atellía be a freshman he got the full friction fira surprständige The Monday I want up and down,♡ like a monkey harbor for our people you got she was of all, Yoon Does not fear the SUPER MICHINI life, not dead, fuck Yunyi I'll leave it at that. So for me, I always say I'm off the honor of that crap. I never go through that machine. I go through the metal detector and I have them frisk me, but usually it's just a little pat down and I don't go to a separate room. They just kind of a little pat down thing and I'm out of there. I don't do anything. I don't fly enough. There's other people that are probably yelling at, hey, it happens all, maybe it does. I don't know. Where was she going? Uh, Boston. Local overseas. Boston. Wow. Well, we got less than one minute right here. Okay, we'll say goodbye and we'll make this a short one. All right. Unless you got something pressing to say.
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    Next time. We'll do them next time. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. This has been the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave. Stay lit and tilted.
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    You. Everybody, peace out. And don't worry, be happy. Well, it looks as if our time has just about run out. Just enough left to tell them who the sponsor was. Who do you call when you want your pinball machinery restored? John Papadiuk! Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Hey, right! George, you don't know what you're saying! You're under their control! George, we've had it with you. Say no rodeo, bro dad. Hasta la vista, baby.
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    Thank you for watching.