Whoa, I think I just figured something out, Davis. What? This sucks. Yeah, it really sucks. This sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before. Coming to you from beautiful Upper North America, this is the Final Round Pinball Podcast. I'm your host, Jeff Teolis, here with the other host, Ryan C. I've got news, I've got news, I've got wonderful news. Dead silence. What is with the song and dance? I just came back from a Antonio Cruz, Jeff. Me and my wife, Shazza, went to the Bahamas. It was nice, it was nice. It's hard to be back, Jeff. It's hard to be back. Well, we've got a lot of news, and if you're ready, we should go right into it, because there's just so much to talk about. And, I mean, fuck a LaRue. What is going on with these cash grabs? See what's going on at Costco and the Star Wars pin? That is the biggest cash grab I've seen in a while. It's good that they're expanding pinball, Jeff, but you might as well just save up your money and buy a pro. That's what everyone says every time they do a Costco machine. Well, hold on a second. I've got a great idea. It's never been done before. that Costco pinball machine, why don't we make it pro? Oh, we're playing a revolutionary new game here, Jeff. Never been done before. Let's make the Costco pinball machine make it pro. What would you have to add to it to make it pro, Ryan? Okay, let's add an actual coin door, not one that actually looks like a coin door, but isn't, a functional coin door so we can put this baby on location. Now, one thing about the Star Wars pin machine and these Costco machines, they're very, very, I wouldn't say they're cheap, but they're lower cost than the regular pros. But what you get with it is a screen and a speaker that is about the size of an iWatch. So maybe we could do something there? Yes. and everyone knows that the best way to get value or to know if you're getting value out of a pinball machine is to lift up the play field and count the coils. The higher the coil count, like the Hobbit, the more value, the more bang for buck that you're getting. And everyone knows that the Costco pinball machines have the slings and the pop bumpers tied together so they all work off like a joint coil. So when one slingshot goes off, so does the other. Like a James Bond premium? We need to separate them, and that'll increase the quo count. Well, should we get into this now or save it for our repairs section? We'll do it later. Okay, so that's how we would make it pro. Okay, that's good. You know what? I did get some information. We've done a few podcasts recently. We had the one with Marty. We had the one we did, I guess, about a month ago. And Russell Erickson, our official statistician. Is that Russell Erickson, C-N-Y? Yes, yes. Yeah, not to be confused with other. There's actually three Russell Ericksons. Said numbers were up. And, you know, we'll get to that, obviously, in our ball bag, too, because we've got a lot in the mail ball bag. So I'm just teasing you here. We've got some stuff coming up here. I almost quit podcasting. You know that, right? Multiple times, Jeff. No, but this was almost the final straw. So it goes back to the Marty episode we had where it was Harry Potter and the Sleeve of Wizards. Great title, by the way. We got an email, again, part of our mail ball bag, that corrected the way I was speaking. I say aluminum. What do you say? Aluminium. Stacy Borg. Yes, that Stacy Borg sent me an email telling me it is pronounced. I'm not even going to say the way you say it. Pronounce it again. Aluminium. He said that is the actual proper way, and there's an extra letter, I think, in Australia. I get the extra letter things. We do it in Canada. We add a bunch of U's to words like neighbor, color, things like that. I didn't know there was an extra letter. I don't care. I'm still calling it aluminum. I'm still saying pedophile. You can't correct me. And the day I take broadcasting tips from Stacey Borg, I call it a day. I love you, Stacey. But I'm back. It's a lot of passion there, Jeff. It's almost like you're Italian. You've got some Italian in you. I do have some Italian in me. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Let's hear some Italian. Yeah, I speak Italian. Go ahead. Hey, what the fuck are that? Hey, bada bing, bada boom. All right. We're now banned in Italy. That's great because I'm only going there for a couple of weeks before the U.K. open. But thanks again. That was Ryan. It wasn't me. It was Ryan. You've got to watch out for the people in the tourist areas in Rome, Jeff. They'll steal your baby. Steal babies. The place smells like piss, I assume. And come on. That still is... Piss and pizza. It's a lethal combo. By the way, we're going all over the place here. Pizza. I'm about to spend a few days in New York. And something about New Yorkers. They think they have the greatest pizza ever. They think they have the greatest everything ever. Come on. You don't. That pizza... There's something about a New York slice. It's fine. It's paper thin. it's okay but there are way better pizzas all over the world give me a deep dish pizza um in chicago it's unique in buffalo might be my favorite pizza ever it's called picasso's pizza um i'm about to gain all that weight i lost because i've got a new favorite place but new york i'll have a slice here and there what is it have you gone out and and and sought after the the places, Jeff, or are you just randomly walking off the street and having some dirty, dried up pizza that's been in the window for three hours and judging them? No, I don't go with that garbage and stuff, but there's a lot of pizza slices places in New York. I mean, I'm just, I don't know. It's something about New Yorkers. They just, and not just New York City, those upstate New Yorker guys. How much are pizzas there at like a decent pizza place? Well, what are you paying locally? Because it's out of control here in Australia. For a nice pizza? For a large pizza? $25. Jesus Christ. Why? What's yours? I don't know. Well, about $30-ish Australian dollars for a decent pizza. But it's just there are no, besides Domino's and Pizza Hut and the places that will use the lowest quality ingredients. Maybe that's the answer there. Yeah, you can get a Domino's pizza for $15 and stuff. Oh, you can get a Domino's pizza here for like $6 or $5. Yeah, that's the cheapest food you can get in Australia, Domino's pizza. Anyway, pizza. We might have to buy those cheap pizzas. Apparently, we're being sued. I don't know if you've heard this or not. No, it's fake news. Again, back to those upstate New Yorkers. I don't even want to acknowledge them. And apparently there's this podcast that wants to sue us because they say we're not original. What? Come on. They've done, first of all, I'm going to say this. They've done apparently over 250 podcasts. And if you know anything about New Yorkers, and you should because Kate Martin was just there, you know they never shut up, right? Tell me honestly. You went to dinner with Kate, you and Marty. Did you get a word in? Be honest. I got a couple of words in when I was ordering food. That's it. That's about it. That's it. She took up the whole thing. Anyway, that's a whole New York thing. So these yo-hos at this Tilt Pod Slam, I don't know what it's called. Anyway, this podcast, they say we're ripping them off. Well, first of all, they're New Yorkers. So because they never shut up, they've probably said every word in the English language and probably butchered half of them, if I'm being honest. So, yeah, there's going to be some similarities. Yeah, we're probably going to cross paths once or twice. But I'm telling you, final round, completely original. I won't hear any of it. In saying that, what's our next segment, Jeff? Hmm. Let's go to NAP Arcades. This is where we get all our news from, NAP Arcades. Hello, NAP. Hello. Actually, yeah, and Kineticist too. Matt Owen does a good kind of tournament article. I don't know if you saw that. He was talking about definitely Pinberg and The Beast, and I was part of both of those events. They were fun. I mean, you probably have some Brisbane Masters news, so let's do some tournament talk because people love tournament talk. Can we talk about one non-tournament thing first, Jeff? Can we talk about this news that's hot off the press? Yes, go ahead. We don't record very often, so we're going to be talking about Jack Danger and all that stuff, but that's old news. The latest news that happened today, Jeff, Tariff Talk. since the start of the year we've been we've talked about a little bit but with no certainty of of what it's going to be seems to be locked in now 15 for goods coming in from europe and europe yeah not the us goods coming in from europe so from europe to the us so uh pinball brothers announced today that they are offering no tariffs and free overseas shipping on its new predator pinball machine for u.s customers uh this represents saving of several thousands of dollars from what the game originally cost it costs close to 12 grand all in delivered to pinball brothers u.s headquarters in pa which i believe is pennsylvania is it what game yeah what game is this predator oh boy so it seems like and they also made an announcement saying uh they're going to stop production at the end of this year i don't even know if they've started yet meaning only 150 units remain for sale to make way for their their new title uh what this seems like to me jeff is that they're being forced to kind of cut out their distributor network it seems like um or undercut the distributed network, it seems like to keep prices down and absorb this so they can sell pinball machines, they have to sell direct. And you think that's tariff related? Yeah. I mean, if they're absorbing 15% and the machine costs 12 grand, that's your profit margin right there for distributors. It could be more, it could be less. I'm not a distributor, but you can't absorb that without cutting out the middleman do you have an idea or do you have knowledge of what a distributor makes on a pro and a premium using stern as an example not stern but i once had access through someone else i saw an email they showed me i didn't go snooping on their computer of how much a distributor was making off a certain pinwall machine and i couldn't believe how low it was i was like why are you selling pinball machines this doesn't make sense obviously high volume it's a lot easier i think for someone in the u.s shipping direct but in australia you have to you have to actually buy the stock and have it sitting here um and then and then sell it so it's a lot riskier but do you know how much they make jeff well i do and i share that opinion that you have as well too it's uh tough sledding for distributors if all you were selling is pinball wow you better be a lot of volume because from what i've heard from the odd pinball player and maybe pinsider and all that kind of stuff is heaven forbid there's a chip here or there's a decal that's missing or there's dimples or this and that the distributors get the brunt of and why bother with the time and effort? Yeah, I spent this morning, Jeff, I had a customer who I delivered a pinball machine to for rental and he messaged me the other day and he said his flipper is sticking up and I tried to diagnose a little bit over the phone and he's just not a technical person. So I drove today for, I was over three hours on the road, like up and back. I was there for 10 minutes it was just a coil stop that had broken in typical Stern fashion all of their coil stops are pretty shit and it's an easy fix well we've been saying that for years here on Final Round replace your coil stops immediately something we've been advising all of our listeners anyway go on it's an easy fix but I imagine if you're a pinball distributor you are dealing with people these days that are even less tech savvy and like if you buy a consumer product for ten thousand dollars under different laws around the world but like with australian law like you you gotta fix the machine like you can't deliver a machine and have it break it's not fit for use so how much do you pay a tech to go out and and do that like these machines like so much can break on a pinball machine i don't envy yeah i mean They must be making money somehow. I said like high volume calling machines, checking machines before they go out. That's what all the Australian distributors do. They unbox machines, play test them before re-wrapping them up again and delivering to everyone, every single sturdier machine. Yeah. It's a Ryan Policky. You can't even – it delays the machines when they get here by a couple of days, but it's all hands on deck when machines come in. they set them up and they have their own process because it's yeah and and i i knew someone who asked like used to just tell them just send me the machine i'll deal with the issues like don't i want it like a week before everyone else and they refuse a couple of years ago they refuse to do that now like you have to have the machine checked by them they will unbox it you can't tell like it literally looks brand new out of the box but it has had games on it and it has been tested and yeah the experience is is much better than i guess the random curious because i'm out of the factory i was always under the belief that every game was game tested before it was even put in the box yes but when a game is on the water yeah yeah it does bumping shit around so it comes across the pond in a shipping container to australia they unbox it so you didn't get the excitement of unboxing. I'm just thinking of Marty who gave you so much shit for jizzing all over his Iron Maiden machine that he didn't even want it anymore. It's just reeks of Ryan C. We know what the C stands for. You would never get that joy of opening something new. What about the dimples? Every machine dimples, Jeff. No, they're not sitting there for hours inviting all their mates over. They're playing a couple of games, hitting all the switches, checking that shit hasn't fallen off, checking the bottom of the cabinet. Vibration kills pinball machines. It's just fact. When I deliver a pinball machine, I test it before I leave, and then I test it again. Like, even if it's a half an hour car ride, in half an hour of going over little bumps and stuff in the road, like, yeah, something can... Well, you should test it. You're setting it up, I assume. I know, but Sometimes something doesn't work from me driving it 30 minutes down the road. Something has dislodged. And this is not a manufacturer-specific thing. It's any pinball machine. Anyway, NAP Arcade. Hi, Jason. Nice. Going away from pinball for a second, which we rarely like to do here on Final Round, it's always every single sentence is about pinball. you got a new addition to your family i got two new additions to my family jeff well one's pinball related i want the non-pinball related one okay i'm not hearing birds why why are there no birds because my dog ate them all uh you got a dog i got a dog yeah right after the last episode um i got a brand new straight out of the box amd tested fluffy pinball machine no dimples yeah i do i've got a i've got a son his name's desmond desmond benjamin um he's really cute he's a lot he's a puppy i've never actually had a puppy before i've been a dog owner but uh yeah it's it's a lot jeff it's they're just babies they gotta learn they gotta learn how to do things they by by putting everything in their mouth and you know hopefully not slowing it and shitting it out. Oh, boy. The first nine months are not fun with a dog. I mean, it's a lot of testing your patience. But the next 15 years are pure joy, followed by the saddest moment you could ever possibly experience. It's way too early to think about that, Jeff. Oh, my dog's 11, and I'm like, oh, think of the good years, think of the good years, think of the good years. It is funny that, you know, I've got two kids and they're a little bit older now. They're both over 10 years old. And when I got this little puppy and kind of took it out in public recently for the first time, I got this like really protective instinct that I haven't felt. Like, I'm protective of my kids, but they're old enough now to kind of fend for themselves. But do you remember the first time, you know, your kids went to, like, a playground and you see, like, other kids there and you just, like, if that kid touches my kid, like, I don't know how I'm not going to be able to just turn into an animal and protect my young. And I felt that feeling for the first time in a while the other day when someone, like, had a pram and almost, like, got too close to my dog. and I was like, I didn't care that it was a pram. I was like, I've got to move this person out of the way to protect. For those in every other part of the world, a pram is like a baby carriage. Yeah? They're not called prams? No. Baby carriage? That's too many words. Baby carriage. No one says pram. Stroller? Stroller. I'll give you stroller. Stroller, okay. Stroller. there was a little a little a little cunt in a stroller that got too close to my dog anyway life's life's good Jeff it's it's really fun to come home to a little happy puppy every day and he's gonna experience his first his first pinball tournament next Friday with 40 people over my house so I'm I'm a bit scared of how he's gonna react but it'll be fine is he a barker? only when I'm play fighting with him but no he's he's pretty damn good He's a, he's a Groodle. Uh, maybe I'll post a picture on, um, on Facebook. He's ridiculously good looking. Like I, I feel like I've got a male model in my, uh, it's nice. It's, it's, it's stupid. Like Groodles to me are just like, they're just teddy bears. I'm not into the whole, like there's ugly dogs, Jeff, that I think are cute. Like they're, they're kind of like ironically ugly like uh what's francie's dog french french bulldogs barlow don't make fun of barlow barlow's a great looking dog they're great looking because they look fucking weird like they just look they not francie i don approve of this that what made that what makes them beautiful like they just like unique and you just love like the unique look of their face Anyway It funny When Anne and I moved to where we live in Burlington we knew nobody in this town It's not like we wanted to go into a witness relocation program. We just had to find a city that was convenient for both of us for work at the time. And we chose this city, and we didn't know anybody. and shortly after we got Jagger, our dog, we know everyone now because when you walk a dog in the street, everyone like, you know, it's a great way to meet the neighborhood. It is. I actually had a conversation with my neighbor for the first time in six years when I was like... She came out and my dog was there and she walked over and she was like, who's this little guy? I'm like, I'm Ryan. i've been on your street it's like a cul-de-sac too it's like it's it's not like it's a main street like you're all together uh i know are you gonna you wanna hear a really funny a really quick funny story jeff the house opposite me uh well next to me sold the other day and i haven't been to an auction in a while is that how um uh houses are sold over there or is it no okay real agent bidding wars yes so this is bidding wars at an auction in front of the house it's been like this for the last i don't know 15 20 years in australia it's just i think they find that it just gets the highest price and there's there's dodgy things that happen i know you can when you have bidding wars you can do stuff behind closed doors and they don't really know what's happening but they got plants and stuff yes um and they can do this thing called a vendor bid where they're basically bidding on behalf of the vendor it's so fucking stupid but as you know real estate agents will say anything they need, like a good saleswoman slash man to sell you the thing. And the guy walks up and he starts selling this store and he's like, you might think that when you walk into this house, it might seem familiar. And that's because this is a home, not a house. And this whole spiel about how the house is ready to go. Anyway, I'm renting the house and the house next to it. So I don't own it. And at a certain point, they were desperate for a bid, and the guy walked around. And, you know, like one of the agents walked around, and he said, Ah, you live here, right? I'm like, yep. And he's like, why don't you buy the house, knock it down, you know, extend your house. And I was like, so much for the fucking home. Just fucking knock it down. It made me laugh. Anyway, I'll have some new neighbors and see if they get into Pimble and they like cute fucking dogs. No, we don't have auctions. You know, the only auctions I know of are, of course, things like eBay. And I guess in Australia, it's things like Gumtree, which brings us to our next segment. Would you or would you not buy that? Now, I sent you a link on Amazon because we're a global podcast. We don't just, you know, some podcasts just really just same guys from the same area, right? Like we're global. I'm from Canada. You're from Australia. Our biggest audience is the United States. We've got lots of people listening to us in Europe. So I don't want to do something like eBay because gum tree is Australian. So we could do something catered there. But I was looking on Amazon. I don't know how to share this. But if you actually type in Amazon, dumb shit, this is how I found it. I'm not even joking. This is how I found this thing. I'd like to be able to share it with you. I did share it with you, but I mean you, the listener. Type in O-Y-S-R-O-N-G, kitchen, cooking, adult, apron. Okay. Give us that again. O-Y-S-R-O-N-G, cartoon, kitchen, cooking, adult, apron. Okay. You're on Amazon. You're looking at that. And if you're looking at what we're looking at, it is an apron of a nude man with a sheep in front of his lower half. What he's doing, I have no idea. But, Ryan, I know when your birthday is. Just keep an eye on your mailbox and wear it for your new neighbors. Hi, neighbor. Like, walk over like, hey, having a barbecue. Want to come over for a couple of snacks. Hold on a second. Here's the better line. Hey, glad you moved in. Just want to say we're having a big party or there's going to be lots of drinking and fucking. It's going to be awesome. Oh, yeah? Who's coming? Just me and you. The most disturbing thing about this, Jeff, is not that it's at the low price of $9.99. It's that there are 1,238 ratings on this. So more than that many people have bought it and rated it. Holy shit. It's more popular of a sale than some pinball machines. I'll put it that way. Bringing it all back around. Oh, you've got a Gumtree listing. All right, let me look at this. So Gumtree is the Craigslist, the Kijiji in Canada, the eBay, gumtree.com.au. Gumtree used to be the place to buy stuff. They got bought out by eBay. eBay kind of like don't care about it as much. Everyone uses Facebook Marketplace now, but you can still find some good stuff on Gumtree. Jump on the website. Item number 1336273168. What do we got, Jeff? 1336273168. A Stern Pinball NASCAR Dale Jr. LE number one of 600. So this is the NASCAR version. and I see, oh, there's 10 pitchers here. Oh, fuck, they left the glass on. They left the glass on. Fucking idiots. I hate when they do that. Come on. Take the glass off, you dumb cunts. Yep. Fuck, come on. What else am I seeing here? Okay, I like the game NASCAR. What else am I missing here? So what did they sell in Canada, Jeff? Because Grand Prix was the one that was sold here and I don't know how many... It was called NASCAR. It was called NASCAR and it was Grand Prix, I think, in the US. too. Or not US, in UK. So do they release them at the same time or did it come afterwards? Yeah, it's kind of like you have to customize certain things for certain markets. I was playing a KISS pinball machine, the KISS Stern game at a buddy's house and he has the German KISS translate. It's got the rounded S's, right? Because the one thing we do at KISS is we want to make sure we're global. We're an incredible rock band. Oh, Gene, I didn't know you were here. I feel like this guy's picture is, if you're looking at the listing, there's a couple of pictures of the pinball machines, but I think it's a humble brag about how many pinball machines he has. Yeah, no kidding. Here's Family Guy. He's got one wide shot where everything's got a topper on it. There's Family Guy, Sopranos, Mandalorian, Godzilla. Yes, this is Stewie. My name is Stewie, and I'm from Family Guy. That's a horrible Stewie. You call that a Stewie? If ever there was dead science, it was that fucking Stewie impression. But you know the one thing they do need is a king of the hill. Bobby, put down that head. That would be a good pinball machine. For a second, I thought you were doing the pedophile of Family Guy. My son, Herbert the pervert. My son has the perfect... I can't even do it, but he does it perfectly, and it's so freaking creepy. I dated a girl briefly, Jeff, and she wasn't a great match, but there's one thing... That's not the word I thought you were going to say. There was one thing that she was fucking amazing at, and it was... I heard her do it. I've sent it to you before? Yeah. I'm trying to find the fucking video so I can play it. God damn it. Get your sweet ass over here, Chris. I can't do it, but my God, my son does it, and it's too funny. Why are we making fun of something? You know, I guess that's the whole thing about irony. You're making fun of things you shouldn't be making fun of. But anyway, got to find humor in things. I can't find it. I looked for a little bit. Going from TV shows to movies, it's our movie talk time here on Fun Around, and you saw a movie that has a pretty popular pinball machine. What did you see? So I wanted to get excited about the June pinball, but up until the last episode, I'd tried to sit down and watch June 1 probably, I think, four or five times, and I don't know what it is, my lack of concentration, the pacing of the movie. I couldn't do it. I sat down to try and watch the movie, Jeff, with four false starts. It's never happened before. And usually I would just give up because why would you keep on going? But everyone says number two is even better. And I finally did it. I powered through one. It's a bit painful. And then watched number two immediately. And it was fucking amazing. And now I'm actually really excited. Like now the pinball machine has my attention. And I can't wait to play it because... It's fun. You'll enjoy it. It's really good. What a great movie. What a cinematic experience. The sounds. If you have a good sound system at home, your entire room shakes at certain points. And that is a great thing for pinball. I remember talking to David David Van Es. It's coming out on Pinball Profile, my other podcast. Yes. Oh, yes. I have another pinball podcast, pinballprofile.com. You'll want to check out here. I'm sorry. I'm doing my plug. Is that okay, Ryan? It's fine. It's fine. Where is it located? You get one per episode, fucker. Boltprofile.com. Anyway, I was talking to David David Van Es, and that will be coming out very, very soon, in fact. And he is very excited about what they're doing with Dune, if barrels of fun. But he did kind of tell me, and I think it's in the podcast, he's actually going to the set of the third Dune movie. He's been invited. They're big fans of the Dune pinball machine. So imagine that. David Van Essen, Chalamet. BFFs. I feel like it's one of these pinball machines that got off to a slow start, maybe because it was released before it should have been, but it will eventually sell out. It's such a weird market, Jeff. It's one of those things where you've got a... Spooky had it for a little while, where they sold out of their first couple of pinball machines, and then it just created this thing where, no matter what machine it was, it was going to sell out. Like, you know, maybe they could have made more Rick and Mortys. And then they started making maybe too many for the theme. Like, it didn't match. The numbers didn't match. And then Evil Dead has sold out, and now there's this hype around the next pinball machine people don't want to miss out, because they're like, well, now I can hold value of my pinball machine. Now I have something that I can't have if I don't put my money down straight away. So distributors are taking money for what I believe is Beetlejuice, whatever Spooky's next game is. And it'll probably sell out without people knowing if it's a good game or not. It's good IP. Is it? No, it's a good IP. It is. If you're only trying to sell 1,000 of them, it's a good IP. Well, then why? I mean, that's, yeah, I don't know. Is it just nostalgia? I think Beetlejuice is a better IP than Evil Dead, and Evil Dead is a great pinball machine. It's fun to play. Holy cow. I've got my mate Dave buying one, so I'll get to play it. But, yeah, it's slim pickings. It takes a while for stuff to come down to Australia. As you know, I just played Jaws the other day, Jeff, which is now code complete. But, yeah, I look forward to playing Harry Potter. Was it Jaws 50th? Because Jaws 50th is so much better than the regular Jaws. The old one that came out a year ago? Ah, forget it. You got to play Jaws 50th. The red armor really is the gameplay. Oh, my God, it pops. It just, between that and the sticker, bravo. Chef's kiss. Okay. Ah, scrub. Another movie, by the way. I saw Superman, and probably time for a Superman pinball machine, but let's talk about Superman. My son, Brady, was gung-ho, so excited to see this. You know, we've seen all the movies this summer, Naked Gun, funny as heck, Fantastic Four, really beautiful to watch, and Superman. And I said, I can't get into Superman before it comes. I'm sure I'll be pleasantly surprised. Well, I've seen it. Do you want my thoughts? Give them to me. Okay. James Gunn, the big wig from DC, came over from Marvel. He's the guy who did a wonderful job with Guardians of the Galaxy. He did the reboot of Suicide Squad. He did the hilarious Peacemaker television show. Three for three. They're all great movies, but it's a definite James Gunn lane. They're very funny. They're cool to watch. And so this is what I was saying to Brady. He's getting his hands on Superman. I don't want it to be James Gunn Goofy, I said to him. He's like, what? I said, I want it to be like Christopher Nolan did the Dark Knight series. And when I saw Superman, yeah, it was fine. It was good. But it was the Guardians of Krypton. Don't kid me. Like, it was fucking goofy. And I was like, oh, I don't need to see it again. I was bummed out. Do you need to watch a movie again, Jeff, to appreciate it? Can't it just be what it is? I watched it a second time. So you did watch it a second time. Just listen. I watched it once at the theater. Then I watched a bootlegged version of it, just like, did I miss something? And the second time, I liked it less. Probably because you're watching some guy holding up an iPhone and people farting in the background of the audio. There was one scene where the popcorn got a little loud, I will admit that. But it's going to be on digital. I think in September. But anyway, I was just like, fuck. It's just not, to me, I don't know if you saw the movie The Batman by Matt Reeves. Really, really cool with Robert Pattinson. Loved it. Pretty serious. Awesome. And I'm like, fuck, that's good. Can they do something like that for Superman? The answer is no, they did not. the problem for me with superman uh has ever since i was a little kid uh has always been that they i feel like it's it's a really cheap thing i'm not sure if this is the general storyline of the the new movie is it is it a reboot is it an origin story for the 20th no not it's neither different storyline okay well then maybe this is a moot point but i can never feel like when i watch game of thrones anyone could die at any moment because they're just human beings and when i watch superhero movies it's like they can't die because because they're the main fucking character that they make they can't can't kill a hero because all the kids will cry and get depressed um so you can't kill superman you can all you can just put kryptonite in front of him and it's this like made up thing that makes him not powerful and it's just a really shit storyline i think it's like okay he's a person who is basically immortal except for this one thing so when we need the one thing to present itself we will and then he'll somehow overcome it and then he's we'll save the day he'll spin around the earth really fast and turn back time and save the day you know fantastic four i thought they were going to kill off one of the main characters i'm not going to say who but i was like oh wow they're really doing this and just like you said no we have to save that person and i was like ah it was right there you could have done it oh well well they did it they did it with gamora in um in the final avengers and then they brought it back in in guardians because it was like an alternative universe thing they're just like well let's just bring it back because we we can we can write the movie scripts and i am so sick of alternative of universes like stop it's it listen sure when you run out of stories hey let's do multiverse don't you feel yeah i mean marvel had me by the by my nutsack when i when like avengers came out like i bought into the whole franchise thing all the way from was it iron man the first one i watched every single fucking movie jeff at the cinemas and it was it was a b plus experience every single time and i was satisfied with that i was just like this is not bad enough to stop going i had a good time but i'm gonna like delete the movie from my memory as soon as i leave and then as soon as avengers happened i was like okay i've i've been relieved like i can never watch and i've tried to sit down and watch some of the newer stuff like the like the latest ant-man and whatever there's been plenty of them and i haven't watched a single one because i i just can't totally fatigued um by this it's just not satisfying give me give me surprise me you know all the movies are rotten they're safe, they're boring they're Disney, they're shit as you know on this program we like to do things original here on Final Round and we used to do a thing with Marty where he used to kill people and we're going to do something original with you, Ryan who will you save? he used to kill, he fucking loved it oh my god he would give me suggestions every week I'm like slow down, we get one a week he's like but I got 40, I'm like stop Anyway, who will you save, Ryan? Hmm. Do we do fictional or do we real people? You decide. Who do we save? And you have to realize what the consequences are for the other person. Just pointing that out. Let's do real people. Real people? Okay. Okay. Okay. Who can you save as far as going back in time and changing their pinball career? And we don't even have to go back a long time. Let's go back a year. A year. And you can save what's going on in their lives. I'm not saying anything's bad, but I'm just saying Ryan's going to change the universe here. Multiverse. Would it be Timballs? Our very own Tim Balls. Yes. We created Tim, Jeff. We did. He got his start on our show. Yep. And then he abandoned us. He fucking abandoned us. You know, unreal. Anyway, Tim Sexton, who's left stern, is now with Josh Sharpe. Is he Roth or else? Whatever that company is. Or, recently announced, Jack Danger, who, by the way, both these guys, I like what they've done. but Jack Danger, when he came out with Foo Fighters, like bravo and even X-Men, which I shit on last week I shit on the premium because I hate that the hand comes down and knocks your ball off for a shot you made they fixed the code by the way, it only does that during multiball, I'm okay with that, so good on them but anyway, I like his designs, but he's no longer a designer after the next one who are you going back to save? Timmy the coder at Stern or Jack Danger the designer? Ryan, go. Okay, so, Jack Danger. All-round good dude. Very very great for Pimble the hobby I agree Foo Fighters is so fun to play and I feel like Still is Yeah it is It just fucking satisfying to shoot It's satisfying to just even plunge the ball. The software is satisfying, the vision. It's fun. It's cheeky. It's amazing. X-Men, I think, is really fucking unique, and I like unique things in pinball. Is it good for location play? Maybe not. I think the danger room is just slightly too out there for someone who... People struggle to flip more than the bottom two flippers, and they start learning about other flippers as they get better. So having a little thing there is just... It's kind of like the Rick and Morty thing. It chucks the ball straight down when you hit the portal, and most people in pinball just let it drain because they're too busy looking at the screen. Needs code. Needs code, Jeff. Tim Bowles. What can I say about Tim Bowles? He has three balls. Somebody who did code. Yes, he does code. Have I played a lot of the games that he's coded? What has he coded, Jeff? He worked on John Wick. He worked on Led Zeppelin. Rush. Rush. Zeppelin, the code is the best thing about the game. Yeah, it's just when you... It's not intuitive. I don't think, yes, but I don't think that's the problem of the coder. I think the thing that works with Keith Alwyn is not that he has Rick Nagel programming, and I don't want to make it sound like he's not good at programming. He is. He's amazing. But I think it's the team, the vision of working together, so that whatever Keith Alwyn has in his head gets executed, and I feel like other teams at Stern don't have that. So when I walk up to Led Zeppelin, if you have to tell me what to do, my brain just fucking malfunctions because I'm like, I can't absorb this information because it's not interesting. I need to just figure out as I play. So I'm saving Jack Danger. Sorry, Timbles. Wow. Again, you're going back in time and making Jack design many more games. Gotcha. Okay. Fuck yeah. Bring him back. Bring Jack back. Bring Jack back. When did you say your tournament was? Tomorrow? No, next week. Next week. And I'm putting in... The reason why I'm running the tournament, Jeff, is I've finally completed my Stern Classics collection for the last six, seven, eight years. I don't know. You've got Viper? The only good thing about Viper is the back glass. You've got the Stern Iron Maiden, the original. I looked for a stargazer for a long time. I found one. I'm not going to bore you with the story, but it was in pieces. It hasn't worked for 20-plus years, Jeff. And Matt Owen from Melbourne, not Matt Owen of Kineticist fame. I didn't know he was from Melbourne. No, no, no. There's another Matt Owen here. I was going to say every time I see an email from Matt Owen I'm just like what the fuck gotcha what the fuck is that multiple people have worked on this machine it's a bit of a Frankenstein it's got the world's best cabinet it's got like there's some things I still need to upgrade but it is a restored stargazer and I'm in love maybe it's just the fact that it's the newest thing that I have, Jeff, but there is a hypnotic state that you can get into playing this machine. Is it worth $10,000 or whatever people are paying for it in the US? No fucking way. But if you take the cost out of the equation and just judge it for a Piml machine of that era, I can see how certain machines that don't play right would ruin the game. If you could backflip, the rollover's really easy, that's the whole fucking game, is just backflip, light the spinner, rip it, and that's it. But there is a real beauty to the flow and the rules and the way the ball travels around the playfield. I don't know if the rules are beautiful or not. I mean, really, it's light a spinner, rip a spinner. Yeah, I feel... Great rules, wow. Well, people love Meteor, and that's light the spinner, rip the spinner. At least there's three times the fun here, Jeff. Three times the fun. What's the rules on any other fucking game? Like, hit the drop target. Okay. All right. I would say Stars has better rules. It's more balanced. Listen. First of all, we have always... It could be the official game of the Final Round Pinball Pack. It is the official game. Yeah. And we are single-handedly responsible for increasing the price of certain electronic games because we said they were the best ages ago, and then people are finally listening. Whoopsie! but stars rules are better i was playing this this young guy he's like okay what's the special thing on stars because he's watching me and he's and he beat me and i said well what i'm trying to do what i'm trying to do i'm trying to light all five stars because on this version once you light all five the special stays unlike the one out of the beast which was great we got that from Fuck, where is that? Some collective in Rochester. I forget the name of it. Anyway, West Commercial Street. I forget. Anyway, wherever it was. It was really, really nice. Oh, I remember who brought it. It was Mark. Mark, one of the fine owners there. Kegel, kegel, kegel. Anyway, the stars there, you could light the special, but you only got one special. So the actual trick of that game, again, better rules, hit the drops, believe it or not. Do it four times. Get the special that way. If you can survive, yes. If you can survive getting the drops down four times. But the spinners, being juiced, that's really important. Shats in the inlanes. There's lots of ways to play stars. Whereas, trust me, I love, love, love Stargazer, and you will too. If I have to pick a game between stars and Stargazer for my life, I'm picking Stargazer. But it's not deep rules. I know the bonus can be big, but it's not like you're shooting for the Zodiac signs. Yeah, the Zodiac signs are just... I feel like, I don't know, there probably is a custom ROM out there to change the scoring a little bit. Doesn't need it? No. No? Okay. Let's get our mate Soren to do it. Should we get our Scott to do it? Yeah, Soren or Scott. Yeah, if you're listening, email us in the mail ball bag. Well, what's our Zach say about it? Our Australian Zach. I mean, well, he likes Star Wars. He's just talking about Star Wars and Pins Plus Plus, something like that. And all the spooky games he's bought. Scooby-Doo. Including Scooby-Doo. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck, Spooky. Horrible. Lonnie D. Rupp. Horrible. Dwight Sullivan. Stop flashing fucking LEDs in my face. Who says that? Who would say that? I love Dwight. I'm not acknowledging that. Do you love video modes, Jeff? I saw my first ever video mode on a game I've been playing for over 30 freaking years. I didn't even know it had a video mode. This is the truth. have i heard this story jeff i've heard this story so many times and i'm so confused i swear why people are only seeing this you know many i'll tell you why okay play along at home a game from the legendary bally williams era has a video mode that you probably didn't know existed because no one goes for it everyone knows it exists nobody goes for it though if you're a boring competition player. Well, in the competition, you never go for this. But then somebody said, oh, I was one away from the video mode. I'm like, video? This was the other day. I'm like, video mode? There's a video mode in that game? Yes. And it's called Save the Children! Medieval Madness. I had no idea there was a video mode in it. You spell fire eight times. Who's spelling fire? People who shoot the wamps. Okay, here's the problem with it. That's great. Yeah, especially the left ramp. It comes back. That's fine. But when you shoot the right ramp, after a while, it spells damsel and it goes in the back. And Tina Fey says her thing. No one's doing fire. And again, you're doing your joust madnesses and all these other things. Catapult madness. Fire, maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. So then I found out there was a video mode. I'm like, fuck, that's all I'm going to do. All I'm going to do is hit the ramps, which is not how you play the game. And I did it. And I got to save the children. By the way, I don't even know how to do it. There's something to do with pitchforks or something like that? Did you not even save the child, Jeff? I saved two. Only two. And I just busted my ass to try to get to the video mode. I've never felt so... It was like during COVID me trying to get to Encore jackpot in ACDC. And I got to it and I... Shit. Did terrible. Yeah. It's one of my favorite video modes. And maybe I only got to it. a bunch of times. What do you do in it? What is Medieval Madness a clone of? Attack from Mars. Yeah. What do you do in Attack from Mars? Well, that thing's easy. It's like Missile Command. You shoot back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Yeah, that's what you do. You walk back and forth with a pitch. You have a pitch. With the flippers, you move left and right. Oh, and it automatically... I wasn't sure how you stab the birds. It's automatic. Automatic stabbing as long as the bird is within range. So you don't fan left and right like the other one. But yeah, there's little babies walking around, and there's crows trying to pick them up and eat them. It's fucking hilarious. I had never... Probably my favorite video game. 35 years. No idea. I'm not even trying to be funny. It's the truth. I had no idea. I just about died when I saw it. I really love that game, and I'm sad that I don't own it. I've had it in my collection once as a swap, but I feel like... Can you get it when, because you know I'm coming back to Australia, and the reason I bring this up is we're going to have a special tournament. That's right. We're going to have, and you're going to be invited. Knock off the champ here. We're having the final round Oymate pinball tournament at Ryan's level zero. It's, again, final round Oymate pinball or Fromp. We might even have one on a Friday, one on a Saturday, so we'll do Fromp 2 electric boogaloo or something like that. Frump West. Yes. Yes. So I can do one of them. So we're going to start selling tickets soon. You have to email us at funaroundpimble. And I will send money to my PayPal. I can easily put things on a ticketing website like Eventbrite or Humanitix. But let's make it really hard for everybody and get them to send PayPal directly to me. Because what the fuck it is. Okay. Fuck LaRue. Anyway. Do you have any repairs this week? I have, yeah, I fixed the coil stuff today. It was fucking riveting. Yeah, I mean, I've got my tournament coming up, so I'm going through and, you know, Jeff, old games, they just break when they feel like it. You can switch a game off and leave it there for three months and turn it back on and it has seven fucking issues. It's never-ending, Jeff. It's a never-ending story. I don't know why I do it, but I do love my older games and my collection's now complete. What should I do next, Jeff? Am I finished with pinball? Like, I feel like I've been building up to this moment for the last however many years, and then I've finally got it. I've finally completed what I sought out to start. Do I just make up other pinball machines that I need to find, or should I just stop and be happy with what I've got? I don't know if there's a holy grail out there for me right now. And as you were talking about tariff talk, it's making it tough, especially if you're outside the United States. Although I imagine the prices have gone up in the U.S. too. I've got friends that are just getting hammered with tariffs. And I'm going to let the water settle a little bit, cool down, before I make any new purchases. But that doesn't mean I haven't found some gems. I got my hands on a machine. I wouldn't say it's a holy grail, but the price was right. And I'm like, that's a fun game. Gottlieb game. I want you to guess. What kind of vibe is the Translate? Does it have little people on there? No. Oh, fuck. I would love, love Genesis. But think of what kind of vibe. Yeah. maybe after you've graduated from your excitement of the strikes and spares one oh when you get a little older I got bad girls baby what is the okay I've I think I may have played one ball of bad girls at Expo many many moons ago what is the what is the theme of bad girls is it literally just pool pool okay yeah okay but only played by girls who are It's kind of an inverted eight-ball deluxe, but with more multiball and hurry-ups and those great Gottlieb spinners. I'm pumped. I'm excited. Needs new boards and everything else. Who cares? When you say great Gottlieb spinners, do you mean really shit Gottlieb spinners that are really heavy and don't spin or actual great Gottlieb spinners? Great Gottlieb spinners. Like, yeah, no, no, no, these are good. I mean, is RoboWar Gottlieb? I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. That's a game, you know, you want to start multiball, and if that spinner's lit, you rip it. I would say the same with this. Although it's not a multiball, there's a crazy hurry up that, I don't know, we'll see what the strat is, but it's a tournament darling. Speaking of tournament darlings, I had a darling little tournament myself called The Beast. I mentioned earlier that came off. It was a success. Congratulations to all the winners that include Jason Zoller, a two-time New York major winner now that he's won The Beast twice. The Classics, the winner was... Who was the winner in the Classics? Why am I drawing a blank? I'm drawing a blank because it's super late. I know who won the women's. Christina Capra from North Carolina. Nice to see her win that. And the classics, I know, oh, Nick Greening came in second two years in a row. Poor Nick. But the winner was Paul Englert, who is the EPC winner. He came from Germany to win the Beast. Pretty awesome. So that was fun at Pocketeer Billiards. We'll do it again next summer. Date, likely the same weekend, if not, give or take a weekend. And the reason I'm waiting, if people are wondering, is because I want to make sure I'm not conflicting with anybody. Meaning, oh, I don't know, Pinberg. So once Pinberg locks their date, I'll give the beast date. But we're kind of working in conjunction there, so that should be by September. But anyway, it was great. Stern Pro Circuit event for the first time. You've got to give us more than that, Jeff. It was great. What was the highlight? What went wrong? What did you learn from it? What are you going to do different next year? It's what I did different this year. This year I had tilts were not stupidly tight. People got to practice for an hour. We had 40 winners plus 8 in B in main and classics versus 24. So more people got paid. A nice variety of games. So in the main bank, we had 7 DMDs, 7 LCDs, and 6 solid states. and it wasn't a Sturnament. Not that there's anything wrong with Sturn, but I wanted variety. So, you know, we had Ninja Eclipse in, which I wasn't going to put in, but then I saw it played with great success at Pimberg. I'm like, all right. First of all, I love the game and it held up. It was good. We had Legends of Valhalla in there because we had in there two years ago and there was no issues with that. So nice to have that game in there. We had Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle. watch me pull a rabbit out of my head. We did that. That was pretty cool. And then we had some great string games. I mentioned there was Kiss. We had Tron. We had Deadpool. Deadpool is such a great tournament game. Do you have a Deadpool? I do have a Deadpool. Is it a great tournament game? I feel like... It is if you disable SNK. Oh, okay. And do you have to hardware disable that or is there a software disable? I can't remember how... I didn't do it. I had great TDs and techs. And why is that an exploit? Well, not an exploit, but are people so good at doing that that they don't need to? I don't know the full reason for doing it. I'm following suit watching the IFPA do it, and they did it at the IFPA Worlds in Germany two years ago. And in a pump and dump, it can really distort scores perhaps. I don't know, I just thought, ah, I could have left it in, I took it out. Yeah, I've tried to go for that on purpose. Like, you know, you said you had the game of Medieval Madness where you just went for video modes. I've had games of Deadpool where I've just gone for Snicked and I can't get the sweet spot. I can hit the target pretty damn well, but making it go up the ramp, there must be a very fine sweet spot on it for it to work. So I guess that makes sense. to um i'll tell you i had jaws premium in the tournament and i took it out immediately why did i take it out ryan why uh because you hate keith owen you think it is worth game are you kidding seasoned veteran love keith wrong wrong it was that full code i was super excited and then a week and a half before the beast yeah they did a code update i will not put any game in with a code update that's that recent because they don't know if there are bugs in it. I don't want to find out there's an exploit at a pump-and-dump tournament. Took it out. Not doing it. Did it automatically update? Couldn't you have just left it on old code? Well, these aren't my machines, right? I'm playing at a place called Pocketier Billiards. I did ask them to turn off the code updates, but it was after the fact that the date was that I picked, and they were automatically updated. I was like, oh shit. Nope, I'll pick another game. And they did that at Pimberg too. It seems maybe coincidental, but they get a lot of updates right before these big tournaments. I don't like it. Maybe it's for Ray Day to just have a slight inside edge. Flipper code! Yeah, it was interesting that Jaws got an update which somerset was long overdue since it wasn't at 1.0 code um and now it's it's it's more complete i can't wait to play it i haven't played it yet mine's mine's out um on location at the moment but you did play you did play dnd and kong didn't you yes i finally got to play uh dungeons and dragons which is i guess the older game now and um and kong i went over to my friend andre's house and he had those two sitting there. And D&D was really fun to play, Jeff, but it really really hard to play it when it sitting right next to Kong and I don you know maybe that just because I never played Dungeons Dragons and I have like no affinity with the theme, but there's something about Dungeons & Dragons that looks to me, it makes me feel like I'm playing an early 2000s Stern. I think it's the artwork and the sparseness of the playfield. I think I was playing a pro. Yes, I was. Yeah, there's a lot to learn. It's not the kind of game that I think I could play on location or three games like I did and really understand how to choose the right character and, you know, an absolute treat to someone who's a D&D nerd that gets it for their house. But Kong, holy shit, what a fucking game. Played it as much as I could. I'm not going to claim to be an expert on this game, but I had a half a billion-ish point game, which I think was enough to see some of the codes and understand the shots. It was an LE. It wasn't the pro. And I'm kind of kicking myself that I don't have one. I will eventually get one, I think. It's just Keith Elwin and his team have released enough games for the pattern to be there that all of his games are really fucking good, Jeff. you just you gotta trust that he he knows geometry he knows what feels good this guy is not like a 60 year old like designer yes he is he's almost well okay sorry that's the wrong way to say it he's not a guy who is out of touch with pinball this guy's life has revolved around pinball for long enough that like i think it'd be very hard for him to make a shit pinball machine and I don't know if he feels the pressure to keep on one-upping or doing something different, but those Quicksilver-style drops all the way back there feel so fucking good to hit. And, yeah, I don't know. Just shooting it is fun. Like, without the codes, it's fun to shoot. That's when you know you've got a good fucking layout. You add the code, you add the drum beats, you add the gong, that shot that kicks back. It's just, it's a winner. will it be better than blah blah blah blah Godzilla, will it be better than it doesn't matter, it's a really fucking good game I think what you described those upper flipper shots are why I really think Kong is his best shooting game that was what was missing in Jaws to me, that side flipper did nothing for me, especially on the pro the upper flipper is pretty cool on the premium, but the satisfaction of whether you're sweeping the targets, like you say, and coming around and getting that one shot to get a huge payout on the ramp, it's awesome. But even if you don't hit the ramp, the inner loop, it's a masterpiece, and code will only make it better. Some people say maybe it's too easy to shot. I don't know how easy it is. I don't think it's that easy at all. But I do prefer the Pro. Did you say you played the Pro? No, I played an LE. but I wouldn't buy an LE I'd buy a Pro so I can play it and then share it around but what is let's not go through what it's missing but yes some Keith Elwin games just shoot easier than others and yes they're long playing but I think what Keith is really good at is balancing out the codes to match that like if something is really fucking easy to do then it's not worth much if you can combo the RAM That's easy to do on Keith's games. Give me a shot that's easy. Like the center ramp on... Once you lock to shoot the center ramp three times. You think that's easy? On the alley, it was. I couldn't miss. Like on the fly? Maybe not on the fly. Yeah, not on the fly, dude. I don't know. Maybe... I mean, this is a game that's been set up and perfected and not on public location. So maybe it just played better than ones you played. but I was getting to comboing ramps on Iron Maiden. If you combo ramps in Aces High, you'll get a ridiculous score. You can really... Those are tight shots. Yes, that's what I'm saying. They're tight shots, so you get rewarded. You're thinking I'm saying the opposite than what I am. Oh, yeah. It's tight shots, so it's worth a shitload of points if you can do it in a combo. if that same rule existed on alvira then the game is boring because everyone would be maxing out like those ramps are shallow and buttery smooth and wide okay out of all keith's games what's the easiest slash most repeatable shot i have one in mind uh the repeatable um well the the big fat ramp on Avengers is like, it's far up playfield, but you can shoot it from two different flippers, which makes it pretty damn easy. But I might be missing... Oh, the center ramp on Jaws is really easy. Can't miss that. If it doesn't reject. Yeah. Yeah, that's a big thing. You've been playing some bad games, Jeff. Dude, I play it a lot. It's not perfect. The most repeatable shot... I mean, like, you can shoot up the middle in Iron Maiden pretty easy. I'm just going through his games. Yeah. To me, I wouldn't even say it's most repeatable, but I would say it's easiest. Yes. It's the Raptor on Jurassic Park, if you're on the left flipper, backhanding it and bashing it. That's the only one. Do you know what happened to me, Jeff? What? On early codes, Raptor multiball wasn't worth much, and I deleted that section of the play field from existence. Kind of like Demoman. On Demoman, everyone that plays that game knows not to shoot Retina and Car Crash because they're risky and they're not worth it. And then Jurassic Park got an update really early in that fixed that, but I never adjusted and I've learned to play the game without getting Raptor. And now it's a viable strategy, and it's a good thing to go for, and it's safe if you do it in a certain way. But I have been to Raptor multiball like twice, and I've played hundreds of games of Jurassic Park. I'm always looking for interesting games, especially for the Beast, and you mentioned one right there, Demoman. I played, again, the same place where I played, Medieval Madness. My friend Jim, who has like 70 games and a lot of Bally Williams great games, he has the nicest demo man I've ever played and I always play up top on the triggers. And I thought, if I could ever get this to the beast, I would do one thing to it. Disable the lower flippers. Like the buttons. You have to play up top. That would be fucking awesome! It's still the same, but you gotta play up top. Yeah, I don't see... You would have to have a pretty big fucking sign because I feel like people yeah i used to when i had mandalorian on location and i used to run monthly tournaments i would put mandalorian on impossible mode just to switch things up and i just thought it'd be it's really fun and no matter how many times i told people like hey mandalorian's on this thing it's impossible mode you can't hold the flippers down too much and everyone understood but you would hear someone at some point it's one of being like oh what the fuck ryan and yeah i feel like it's um it's muscle memory for some people to like play in a certain way or some people would play up top and then go back down during multiball because you don't get combos in multiball yeah it'd be interesting to do you get the cheat code all right let's fly through some things uh espn ocho had some pinball if you were up at three in the morning didn't do as well as something else. I don't know if it's caught on there in Australia. It seems like it would. You guys are a bunch of piss tanks who drink a lot and it seems like something that would be common. Power slapping. Which I can't believe is a sport. But it kicks the shit out of pinball. Have you watched it, Jeff? Have you seen power slapping? Oh, yeah. Dana White's like, it's nuts. I've seen little clips before, but I recently sat down and watched many hours of power slapping and i just got sucked into this vortex of thinking this is the dumbest thing ever but i can't stop watching the mind games behind trying to psych someone out and hitting them properly otherwise they can hit you twice it's insane concussions and just knocking like breaking guys jaw i just can't imagine but imagine like you had like a a good callus on your hand i'm not saying a big thick wart or something like that but almost like a bullet under the skin it's like It's like hitting a guy with brass knuckles. That slap could just kill a person. Anyway, I don't get it. If you haven't seen it, jump on YouTube, type in power slap. Don't. They'll never do pinball again. They're also in your fine country. I did mention The Beast in Pimberg. Pimberg also won by Jason Zahler. I think he said The Beast was more exciting. I could be wrong. But Brisbane Masters. What went on there? I assume Asher won? Yes, he did. um he won a bunch of the almost all of them um but great turnout this year over 200 people one of the biggest tournaments going around easily the biggest tournament in australia jason lambert and jimmy nails run a tight ship i couldn't make it this year because i just got the doggy a couple days before yeah it's fucking i keep on forgetting it's good thing you got your Drone, because that's the only thing you're going to see that's outside of your home. You should have done that during the auction when you fly on your drone. Hey, good luck, everyone. Who's the new neighbors? I was actually playing music outside. I was doing some gardening and playing very soft music outside of my portable speaker. And for the very first time, like the neighbors that I had before, I don't think they lived in the house. They just had it and live overseas or something. But for the first time ever, someone popped their head over the fence and said, can you please put that down? We're about to start the auction. We don't want the house to seem like you're around riffraff. I'm like, all right, all right. By the way, interesting you say they just popped their head over there because I know something about you. In your backyard with your pool, for some creepy reason, because heaven forbid there's a tan line, you like to sunbathe naked. how do you know this admit it not admit it okay jeff i'll stop sending you pictures i'll stop hey what the fuck it uh i can't help my i got a big italian sausage just for a calabrese as the vina salami you'll ever have what the fuck it is escher won and he did a shoey jeff do you know what a shoey is uh is that a drink in a shoe it's a it's a fine australian tradition that dates back many centuries of celebrating by pouring taking your shoe off a hot sweaty stinky humid shoe that you've been wearing all day long pouring a beer into it and drinking the beer out of the shoe you guys are fucked it's well esh is doing it okay one of the the best the third best pinball player in the world according to IPA rankings. Fourth? I think he's fourth. I think Arvid passed him. Z-Mac and Arvid. Well, yeah, maybe this is why because he's in Australia drinking beer out of his shoe. There's a nice photo of him vomiting, floating around somewhere. I'm not going to share that online, but he's getting corrupted, Jeff. He's getting corrupted. The whole place was founded by convicts, so what do you expect? What's happening in your neck of the woods there in Melbourne? isn't that the pinball expo happening yeah last year um things are picking up speed jeff in australia we're really far behind with expos um people would start doing them and then stop but this year uh for the second year in a row they're doing the melbourne pinball expo uh they've got bunch of harry potters they're flying down they've got predator there they're distributing predator as well that's upset the other predator distributor so he's now opening a australian pinball expo in adelaide next year really yeah it's it's you know what jeff a bit of healthy competition is okay everyone needs to be friends eventually uh but it seems like you know people are awake and people are getting kind of annoyed and in doing that they're putting effort into things so that's the positive out of it all when the smoke settles i hope everyone can can kind of be friends and i'm not going to get into any pinball drama of what i've heard but the winner is people that want to go to pinball expo and things and there's there's kind of like you know a bunch of them now there's there's three or four of them now i think so yeah things are happening i'll be there as an exhibitor i'm not helping run the pinball autonomous this year but it'll it'll grow every year and um jack's coming down eric's coming down from jjp uh it'll be great well that's pretty cool have you played harry potter i haven't i did message the distributor um and and ask but he he uh he hasn't returned my call jeff we need to we need to boost i think we got seven listeners we need to get to at least 10 to uh for me to be able to go and play it what do you think have you played it it's awesome yeah yeah it's pretty good game um i can't believe how long this show's going we better get to by the way if you do want to go to the melbourne pinball expo it's at 349 west commercial street suite 2964 floor 2 east rochester new york what's the bathroom code 420 it's not 420 i forgot like i had it written down anyway it doesn't matter we're not going to have time for repairs today so let's get I don't even know if we can read all the letters it's time to empty our mail ball bag oh oh that was a it's been a while it's been a fucking while wow we got an email again the reason you have no neighbors between you emptying your mail ball bag suntanning naked and playing soft rock music oh by the way do you know how many people came up to me and said about the song Blame the Breeze. First of all, the people that heard the song that you made with AI at the end of the last episode, if you didn't, go back and listen to the last five minutes. Ryan made a song. We played it at the end of the show. Don't turn off the show when you think it's over. That's where we put in the good shit. Anyway, Ryan made this song, and the people that heard it thought, I can't get this out of my head. Well, other people are like, yeah, what did you think of the song? I'm like, what song? they signed off don't sign off everyone knows if you want the good juicy stuff you have to listen after the credits roll i i got a lot of messages as well jeff i didn't realize how many people listened to the show based off just messaging me about that fucking song it's embarrassing how good it is it was literally just two lines of input and it created this beautiful masterpiece of you dropping your load around the world I did get asked how many brown cards I gave out at the beast the answer was zero there were zero brown cards nice there's an email here from the pinball prince dear the one and only mail ball bag i'm writing to say how much i enjoy your original programming it's refreshing to hear a podcast that doesn't spew out the same garbage everyone else does in keeping with all things new i thought i'd offer a game to play i've listed a bracket of the 64 greatest wow moments in pinball wow wow wow this should only take 45 minutes to play in the first bracket no fuck off we're not No, no. Come on. He's listed 64 games, Jeff. This is a long email. Do you think it's a good podcast to run a game that takes over half an hour? I say no. Dead silence. But that's just me. So another day we'll have to do that, the 64 wow moments. But anyway. Oh, Robert Byers wrote in. I don't understand what they're saying. slam tilt is better what the hell is he talking about well you posted and asking for email so here you go ron and bruce's ball bag is bigger than jeff and ryan's at least that's what i've heard if you smell what the rock is cooking rob i was just going to plug the austin pinball collective that you've done but now i'm not even going to mention it so as far as i'm concerned the austin pinball collective doesn't even exist i will never talk about it what goes on in austin Texas there. Thanks, Robert. There's an email here from the American Dream, but I don't think we should read that either. We've got a few emails. Where can people email us? Join our mail wall back. 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