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Episode 111 – Center Post

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·held·Oct 10, 2018
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt Podcast 111: Oktoberfest button mystery, Beatles retheme rumors, Deep Root 80s license, Expo prep.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast 111 covers news from This Week in Pinball including American Pinball with a mysterious extra button, speculation about Beatles being a Seawitch retheme, Star Wars R2D2 topper delays, and Pinball Expo preparation. Hosts discuss Deep Root Pinball major 80s movie license deal, Roger Sharpe recent podcast appearances, and the hosts' upcoming Expo attendance. The episode features extensive discussion of TNA's gameplay, pricing, and community reception.

Key Claims

  • Oktoberfest will have an extra button on the right side under the flipper button for an unspecified special feature

    medium confidence · Ron/Bruce discussing A A Pinball Podcast interview with Nirmal Basani, lead sales and marketing strategist at American Pinball

  • Beatles is rumored to be a rethemed Seawitch

    medium confidence · Ron states 'the Beatles is basically going to be a rethemed Seawitch' after hearing the rumor 'for at least the fourth time'

  • Deep Root Pinball recently had a party for landing a major 80s movie license

    medium confidence · Jeff from This Week in Pinball toured Deep Root facility and found evidence of recent party celebrating major 80s movie license deal

  • Pinball Expo has declined from 300 machines and 60 arcade games to 240 machines

    medium confidence · Ron discussing gradual decline of Expo since its peak in 2014, noting change in machine count

  • Roger Sharpe took 3-4 hours to record for Head-to-Head2Head Pinball podcast, with first hour spent on Skype setup

    high confidence · Ron citing conversation with Ryan about the recording session details

  • Joe Kaminkow was going to design Beatles before the retheme decision

    medium confidence · Ron/Bruce discussing designer availability: 'Joe Kaminkow himself was going to be working on it'

  • TNA has a single-layer playfield and costs around $6,000

    medium confidence · Bruce discussing TNA pricing concerns: 'It's going to cost $6000. That's what they say'

  • Keith Elwin intentionally did not put a button on the lockdown bar for Iron Maiden by design

    medium confidence · Ron/Bruce discussing Keith Elwin design choices for Iron Maiden

  • Stern did not successfully market mainstream audience except through special initiatives like Supreme or concert promotions

    medium confidence · Bruce discussing Stern's marketing challenges and NASCAR example from early 2000s

Notable Quotes

  • “The Beatles is basically going to be a rethemed Seawitch. So Ron, I got it already. We don't need to order.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~25:00 — Key claim about upcoming Beatles game being a retheme rather than original design, showing skepticism about product originality

  • “Deep Root Pinball recently had a party for landing a major 80s movie license.”

    This Week in Pinball @ ~50:00 — Significant rumors about Deep Root's product pipeline and business trajectory

  • “Price too much for alphabet. Yes. OK. I'll give you that. That seems a little high. It's a turnoff for me.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~35:00 — Critical feedback on pricing for single-layer playfield games from established community voice

  • “They had like a lot of people there. They actually had way more games. Been a lot of Way more games than they usually have.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~42:00 — Historical context on Expo's peak and subsequent decline

  • “I'd rather have two or three games for $6,000 that I know I'll have more fun with.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~37:00 — Market sentiment on pricing and collector priorities

  • “It's a one shot pony. If you look at it, it really is a one shot pony. Which is the shot? Right hand, backhand. Into the locks?”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~33:00 — Specific gameplay criticism of TNA's design and shot variety

  • “You can't cradle up on that game. It's hard to do with one ball, certainly with multiball.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~34:00 — Technical gameplay feedback on ball control difficulties in TNA

  • “They had a contest to name it. They named it the SkyDome. The person got some tickets for the rest of their life. Rogers buys the Jays. Now we're changing it to Rogers Centre. You could have called it Rogers SkyDome at least, compromise, but nah. Big business baby.”

Entities

Ron HalliburtonpersonBruce NightingalepersonAmerican PinballcompanyNirmal BasanipersonDeep Root PinballcompanyPinball ExpoeventTexas Pinball Festivalevent

Signals

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    machine_intel: Oktoberfest will feature an extra button on right side under flipper, purpose unconfirmed

    medium · American Pinball marketing strategist Nirmal Basani confirmed to Pinball Podcast that Oktoberfest will have button; hosts speculate on function

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Beatles game rumored to be Sea Witch retheme rather than original playfield design

    medium · Ron confirms hearing rumor 'for at least the fourth time' and states it's 'probably going to be true'; hosts debate implications

  • ?

    product_concern: TNA's $6,000 price point for single-layer playfield criticized as poor value proposition

    high · Bruce explicitly states pricing is 'turnoff' and prefers two older games for same price; multiple hosts agree value is questionable

  • ?

    machine_intel: Star Wars R2D2 topper significantly delayed, originally expected 6-12 months prior

    high · Hosts confirm topper 'should have come out like a year ago' or 'six months ago'; appears to be ongoing supply/production issue

  • ?

    event_signal: Pinball Expo organizers addressing previous decline concerns with increased machines and improved seminars

    medium · Ron notes changes in machine count and seminars; mentions Rob's Pinball Profile discussion of sliding attendance and course correction

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Transcript

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Lisa, without your knowledge, your dating service set you up with a crazed cult leader who practiced ritual animal mutilations. All they told me was he liked animals. Yeah. Dead animals.
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Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host Ron Hallett here with my co-host Bruce Nightingale. Take off eh? I don't get it. Take off hoser. I still don't get it. You don't know movies at all do you? Take off to the great wide north. Take off. No clue what you're talking about. Strange brew. Oh, okay. I think I've seen that once when I was like 11. Oh my god, it's a cult movie. I'm sorry. And where's it from? And what's it about? It's the McKenzie brothers from Canada. Yes. Why would I be saying take off a? I don't know. But this is episode 111 Avengers Infinity War. Good, good movie. Is it the one that has no ending? Like we got to wait for part two? Wait for part two. Okay. That sounds great. Watch a whole movie and And he got the second half. It's just like Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi. You don't know what's going on with Han. Do you know what's going on with Han? That still was a definitive ending. That was an ending, though. That was an ending. Oh, you didn't know if he was really Luke's father or not. Don't even go there. It was a cliffhanger. Han was Luke's father? I didn't know that. But you know, Darth Vader was not his father. I went to Luke's father. All right. We have a guest today. We do. Take off. I didn't know if you wanted me to come in or not. I was excited. You can come in any time you want, sir. I'm still standing for a national anthem. You were singing it there, the takeoff song. Oh Canada. That's the other one. Yes. Coming to you from beautiful upcountry Canada. How are you doing? Oh Canada. Which national anthem do you like better? I really like the American one, by the way. I actually like the Canadian one better. I'm with the Simpsons episode where they said the Canadian one was better. Yes. I always sing the American one whenever I go to a ball game. Now that's funny, Ron, that you like the Canadian one because you're a guy who doesn't have your passport so you've never actually been to Canada. Is this going to be the ongoing thing now? I don't have a passport. You don't have a passport, dude. Why do I have to have a passport? Most Americans don't though. Most Americans don't. I agree about that and probably most Canadians don't have one either so we're in the same boat. But I just think because of how close you live to Canada. I don't live close to Montreal. Is that really Canada? Oh my God, Montreal spectacular. That's one of the nicest cities in our country. It's a dump. It's a dump. Wow. Are you insane? Yes, it's a dump. I'm so dirty. And this Oh, I was not like when you go to Toronto. It's clean. It's modern. When you go to the old Quebec. Oh, it's I spent though. It felt like I was in New Orleans. I don't know whereabouts you were but old Quebec especially Quebec City is absolutely gorgeous. I love Montreal and you know what's funny when people come to Canada and they say oh we're gonna go to Toronto for a few days I'm like it's like any big city it's it's okay and stuff Vancouver is really nice Montreal is great and the Maritimes wow I'm shocked but I'll still stay on the show anyway. Now that we've pissed off every Montrealian or what are they called? French Canadian? This Week, Termsduino He's on the border there in Ottawa. I know, but it's still Ontario. Knock. That's like saying you're in Rochester you still like the jet, so just take it easy. I knew it there, buddy. If you grew up in New Jersey it makes sense. Touche. At least I didn't like the Toronto Blue Jays. I saw the Blue Jays. Hold on a second here. We're recording this on Monday night. Currently it's 8-0 in the fourth inning. I noticed you called me and not somebody like Chuck Webster to rub in the Boston beating that the Yankees are getting right now. Wait, wait, wait. Toronto's ahead 8-0. I wasn't aware they were in the playoffs. Exactly. Wow. We're on the golf course. We're getting ready for the playoffs. Oh, okay. I thought they were in the playoffs or something. I was confused there for a second. Oh, okay. Bad year for the Jays. When's the rebuilding year stop? They tore down the Sky Dome yet? Is it even the Sky Dome anymore? Doesn't it have another name? It's the stupid Rogers Center. They had a contest to name the thing and it cost billions and billions of Ontario taxpayers money to, not billions, but millions to build it. They had a contest to name it. They named it the SkyDome. The person got some tickets for the rest of their life. Rogers buysthejays. Now we're changing it to RogersCenter. You could have called it RogersSkyDome at least, compromise, but nah. Big business baby. You know what this has to do with pinball? Zero. Zero, nothing. Well, let's talk shop. Yeah, let's talk shop. News of the week. Oh, piece of news? Okay, we'll go right into piece of news. Which we will go to thisweekinpinball.com. Hey, Jeff. Pigs in space, alright. Hi, Jeff. Not you, Jeff. The other Jeff. There's too many Jeffs. You're red, Jeff. Okay. We got Oktoberfest coming up. We'll be revealed in Expo. You two get to have fun watching that reveal. That'll be so much fun for you guys. Yeah! I didn't hear anything you said with the yawn. It'll be so much fun for us. Oh, okay. Guys, you're going to be so excited waiting for that reveal. Because me and Jeff are going to Expo. We'll talk about that. It's going to be great. But the Special When Lit guys, the Pinball Podcast, interviewed... Who did they interview here? Hey, Wood. Marketing guy. Oh, the marketing dude. Yeah, the interview field interviewed Nirmal Basani, the lead sales and marketing strategist at American Pinball. And the interesting thing about this, it looks like Oktoberfest is going to have an extra button on the right side. For beer injection? It's for a special thing. They're not saying what it is, but it's going to sit like under the flipper button, the regular flipper button. What do you think about that? You can ask questions. I don't know. Is it call a bouncer if you're playing on it too long or something like that? What could that possibly be? I have no idea. The shocker. Two buttons on one side. One button on the other. The shocker. What do you think of the placement... Oh, god bless Steel Panther. ...of the button? I don't know. Have you played... Just like the shocker. Subtitles by the Amara.org community Have you ever played the P3 Multimorphic with the three buttons on the side? Yes, there's a lot of buttons. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Who knows? Who cares? I don't know. I can't even imagine what it would be. But today's day and age, there's a lot more buttons on pinballs, aren't there? Aren't there, Bruce? Yeah, we're old. We don't like buttons. Maybe they can't do it on the lockdown bar, so that's going to be your action button. I'm okay with it. It's by the flippers. I'd love it if it was. Yeah, it could be. Keith Elwin, his game Iron Maiden, the greatest player of all time, makes a game. Did he put one on the lock bar? No, and by design. Yep. Are you thinking lower playfield? Is that what you're thinking, Ron? They said it's going to be for some special thing, so hopefully it's not for another flipper. Thank God. It's a shocker. Stop. Stop. And filming Hey, that would be a pretty cool feature.

  • Roger Sharpe attempted to buy Williams with a group of investors

    high confidence · Ron discussing Roger's recent Head-to-Head2Head Pinball podcast appearance where he elaborated on previous purchase attempt

    • Ron Halliburton @ ~15:00 — Meta-commentary on business decisions, used as segue into pinball discussion

  • “They took about three, if not four hours to record it. The first hour was just getting him set up on Skype because that was something new to him.”

    [name withheld pending review] @ ~55:00 — Humanizing detail about legendary pinball figure's technical literacy

  • “You'd think after 40 years, you would see some Beatles people trying to pick that up because everyone knows that was a knock off on Beatles, because they couldn't get the licensing.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~28:00 — Historical context on Beatles licensing and market reception of Beat Time

    • This Week in Pinball
    media
    Keith Elwinperson
    Joe Kaminkowperson
    TNA (Total Nuclear Annihilation)game
    Roger Sharpeperson
    Seawitchgame
    Beatlesgame
    Star Warsgame
    Pinsideorganization
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    business_signal: Deep Root Pinball secured major 80s movie license deal, celebrated with recent company party

    medium · This Week in Pinball toured facility and discovered evidence of licensing celebration; specific license IP not yet disclosed

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: TNA criticized for limited shot variety and difficult ball control; hosts note 'one shot pony' design with backhand lock-focused gameplay

    high · Bruce and Ron detail specific mechanics: right-hand backhand lock is primary shot, limited multiball shot variety, difficult cradle control

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: TNA generating mixed reactions: high praise from some segments, pricing and gameplay concerns from collectors and comparative shoppers

    high · Ron reports streaming audiences show high engagement and adrenaline; Bruce explicitly states pricing concern makes him prefer two older games

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Designer Joe Kamakow was intended for Beatles but design direction changed to retheme, creating resource reallocation

    medium · Hosts discuss designer availability: Keith Elwin on Iron Maiden, George Gomez on Deadpool, Borg on Monsters, Steve Ritchie on original theme, Joe Kamakow originally on Beatles

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinside forums feature low-quality reviews and complaints unrelated to actual gameplay experience

    high · Ron discusses Iron Maiden reviews where user gave 1/10 rating stating 'I hate the band' without playing; cites pattern of trolling and complaints on platform

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    market_signal: Classic Williams games like Dragon Fist and Quicksilver present better value proposition than new boutique releases

    medium · Hosts compare TNA at $6,000 unfavorably to acquiring two older games for same price; discusses acquisition timeline and cost of Dragon Fist and Quicksilver

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    historical_signal: Roger Sharpe attempted to buy Williams with investor group; recently elaborated on details in Head-to-Head Pinball podcast

    high · Ron confirms Sharpe discussed purchase attempt on recent two-part Head-to-Head Pinball episode, went into detail 'more and more' about the attempt

    • 9:14
    So, Beatles. I already got it. I'm already in. You're already in? Beatles. You're in too, right? You said urine. Urine. Again now for at least the fourth time hearing the same rumor. It's looking like it's probably going to be true that the Beatles is basically going to be a rethemed Sea Witch. So Ron, I got it already. We don't need to order. Yeah, I've talked to some people about this and there was a lot of really Hi Steph. Pinball Princess, yeah she was getting ready to buy it. Whatever the next one is I'm buying it. Oh, see what you're eating, damn it. It's like you couldn't, so the Beatles are not deserving of an actual original playfield. No. I guess not. Well, what's the thought of that? Why did they do that? Are they seeing the success of TNA? Are they seeing the success of, I mean you two single-handedly have made old Stern games go through the roof in pricing because of your rants and raves. Also예요UK stadium for a The following are the following designers. Brian Eddy was hired after Beatles was already being made. Keith Elwin was working on Iron Maiden. You have George Gomez was working on Deadpool. You have Borg was working on Monsters. And Steve Ritchie's working on his own game, his original theme. So who exactly was going to be working on the Beatles? A mystery designer? Was Pinside Petey going to be working on it? I don't think so. Joe Kamakow. Joe Kamakow himself was going to be working on it. So, that Gob고æ� Maps©3んŽ⌮⃔ потäčäõŽŽ⌲Žпź א Moses aşŸŽŦŠţŽŽŒťŹŭũšũŪŻũţŭŠŭũũŽŸũũũŬŭũũũũũũũũ� улиŵŖŦŠżŪũŽũũŨŬŭũũũŨũũũŨŭŐŭũũũũũũũŭũŬũũŭũũũũũũũũũũũũũũũũ You know just like we did it with with Iron Maiden less You know time in in the shop trying to get all the stuff ready for it there like that Hey, we got design. Let's plop it. Let's do this if they do I Don't think it's gonna work You don't think that enough Beatles fans will just pay for it sight unseen whether they're pinball pinheads or not Okay, let's go through let's go through more logical things Iron Maiden fans most of them bought the Ellie's but 99% of my friends who know Iron Maiden and are metalheads, I say, look, we got an Iron Maiden pinball upstairs. Like, oh, really? I didn't know that. The problem with Sterns, and I love the marketing for them guys, they don't get to the mainstream. The closest I've ever seen Stern get to the mainstream. Supreme. Supreme. Or, or when they, some concert, like, like, they should have done this back in the, In the early 2000s, when they released NASCAR, every week you have a NASCAR race at a different location. All you had to do was get a trailer with 10 games, go to each racetrack with those 10 games, put them on free play. You know how many possible people could have looked at your game and been excited about it? Same with all these rock band ones. Hey, these concerts, 20,000 people. Most places you can do it in the parking lot. Bring a trailer with 10 games. Play 10 or 15 games of ACDC or Metallica or this. You know many people will be like, wow, I didn't know they had a pinball machine. Maybe I should go buy one. Wow, Bruce has it figured out. Marketing genius. I like his NASCAR analogy actually. I think that makes a lot of sense too actually. But with the Beatles, I mean, yeah, there are people with massive Beatles collections. I'm a huge, huge Beatles honk, but I don't, you know, buy every single Beatles merchandise there is. I'm a big fan of the Beatles, because I'd be broke, I mean there's so much out there. I mean, yeah. Okay, now how many people, how many people, you know a lot of Beatles people who own a lot of collectibles, how many own the fake Beatles one? The fake pin from Williams? Nobody. Beat Time or whatever it is? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. But you would think after 40 years, you would see some Beatles people trying to pick that up because everyone knows that was a knock off on Beatles, because they couldn't get the licensing. Hmm. Nobody still does it. Well, that's a good thought there, Bruce. What do you think, Ron? I think it's going to be Sea Witch.
    14:07
    You're right. Yep. And we'll see. And we'll all be laughing at us when they sell out. Will they correct the upper right flipper and put a Williams flipper on it or something to make it actually loop? It'll probably be all smaller flippers. I doubt if they'll be the larger flippers. Will there be a ramp?
    14:24
    Why would there be a ramp? There wasn't a ramp on the original. We don't, what you're thinking now, you can modify the playfield. You still can have the base playfield and you can have a ramp, a flap, a flap ramp up and down. We're actually almost be like a road Kings or like a, uh, what do you call like, uh, love that game. No, not like road Kings, but I'm sorry. Like, uh, gold mine. Well, no, not even that, like a ramp, but it moves up and down on each side and then it diverts and swings, not going back into the loop, but going like back in the middle of the playfield. Like, uh, what's the one? I'm a fan of the one with the castles, not Medieval Madness but the one in the 80s Williams System 11 original with the trolls and everything. Trolls? Yes, troll targets, troll targets. Big guns. Oh, big guns. Big guns. You have the ramp, you have a ramp that goes up and down. It gets through the little loop certain modes and then it goes down and you can go up a ramp and it comes right back down the middle or towards the middle over the middle drop target bank. Feeding it that way. This Week in Pinball, The Beatles will have some small modifications as compared to the original Sea Witch design. Maybe that'll be it. Who knows? It better be something because I don't think people pinball people except if they've never can get a Sea Witch aka Australians because they're so rare to get down there. Ryan C's got one. He hates it. Ryan Seas is... He said it set up wrong. He doesn't know how to tweak his games properly. That's all there is to it. Well, he does, but he doesn't... You know me. I love old games. I really like the... That era is certainly my favorite, too. Sea Witch isn't one of my favorites. No, it's not. Give me... So think about it. If they had to redo one classic Stern, you know, layout, what would it be? Sea Witch wouldn't even come to mind for me. I like the rules of Quicksilver a lot. Didn't you guys do with Ryan, like, the top 16? That thing was great, by the way. reflecting observationsSpace Titles Details reporting Crapman, vertical upkeley proport preparedness Jacob Fles поэтому lounge My name's Pinter and welcome to anotherdevith I'm going to go off and I'm going to tilt because of a shaker. What do you think of toppers there, Bruce? I only have one on my game besides factory and there's nothing. Waste of money, just like LEDs, just like mods. Something to look at. Yeah, it's a does it help the resale value? Probably the exact amount that you paid for, right? Yep. Yeah, nothing for me. But it's so funny to see people just lose their crap over like, where's the Star Wars topper? Well, no, no, they have to lose their crap because that thing should, it's supposed to come out like six months ago. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Actually, probably like a year ago. It was a year ago. It's an R2D2 topper. I would lose my shit also, especially if his head moved and stuff. There's a topper I'd be into. Chicago Gaming. So this, this will be probably revealed at Expo. At least that's what we think. Yes. It just makes sense at this point. I mean, if they already had it under playtest. Well, yeah, who knows? So what do you think? Can I ask you a question? When you think of these leaks, how long have we been hearing about the Flash remake? Before us, right? Definitely. So we're, what, eight months away of hearing this hype of this game. And when they actually release it, does the hype... I mean, there have been so many games since then, so many games announced since then. unts Flintif meow's The only thing it would deter people if I spent it somewhere else, my money went to this, my money went to this. If you want a Monster Bash and you can't get an original, this is the next best thing. It's going to come out eventually, you know this. So if people have been saving for it, they're still going to buy it. It's not like they said, oh gee, now it's been three months later, I'm not going to buy this. People who can't have the opportunity or can't get a nice one or don't want to pay the nice price, they can grab it. The way I look at it. Bruce has spoken. Hey, just let me go get a glass of water. I'm going to choke here. I'll be right back. Oh my. Oh man. He's dying. Monster Bash, I mean, yeah, if you really wanted a Monster Bash, you're probably going to get this one, the new one. And you're going to wait. And you're going to wait. That's not a big deal. Well, unless you're really impatient. Which a lot of pinball people are. Yeah, I think pin side. I could totally see that. The flavor of the week is changed every two minutes. Mm-hmm. Oh my God. Oh wait, did he fall? Did he fall? Help, I've fallen and I can't get it up. Sorry guys. He's going to reactivate his microphone via the clapper. Yes. Clap on. I often wondered if you had the clapper and you were watching the TV and like there was applause on the TV, would it turn itself off? Nah, probably not. No, probably not. Think about that. No? Nah. The next little story actually interested me. Unboxing a bingo pinball machine. Yes, this weekend. It's going to be at York. Now, bingos, as far as EM, electromechanical stuff goes, it's some of the more complicated devices or the bingo machines. Mm-hmm. And there's going to be a 56-year-old bingo machine called, let's see, Silver Sails. This week's topic is the first time we've ever seen a show like this.
    21:37
    It's a new show, and we're going to unbox it at the York Show. Wasn't that an old show with Ricky Schroeder? Oh, that's Silver Spoons. Face to face, a couple of silver spoons. I just did it to get Bruce to sing. Hoping to find there's two of a kind. Before my time. No it wasn't. Who is Ricky Schroeder? Never heard of him. Yeah. Let's see. Yeah, they're gonna actually looks like they're gonna stream it. So I'm gonna have to check that out. Hopefully they archive it cause I will probably not be around to see that but. See, I'm all excited. You're getting me all excited for Expo. I've never been before, Ron. This is something you've been many, many times before and you too, Bruce. And I've never been to Texas Pinball Festival either. So this is probably, I guess, maybe a good idea to go to Expo first. Yes. That was a quick answer. Yeah, I've been to every Expo since 2004. Yeah, I went to see a decrease before is that I mean, are you excited about the change this year? Did you notice that Expo had been fading like a lot of people had mentioned? All right. I saw a gradual. Well, the first one I went to was like the 20th anniversary And it's all studied decline Then everything crashed and went in the shitter about what 2008 2009 The Board was at the thirty year one. When was that? 2014. Fourteen Yes fourteenteen Where they went all out They had like a lot of people there They actually had way more games They been a lot of Way more games than they usually have They actually had a they had a satellite room with even more games in it Like wow this is awesome But then the next year kind of went down again and has steadily declined since then fra tkly Enemyaneous Titளookeyooo regel That's a little... Well first, if you count 300 machines and 60 arcade games, now you're down to 240.
    24:51
    So, you know, I've never seen that many machines at any expo. And I know he's bringing some and that's a great thing. And in other shows, you know, people who run their shows bring a lot. Good example is Ivan for Allentown. He brings a ton of his own machines. Well, it sounds like they've addressed some of the concerns from years past. And I think even Rob mentioned on Pinball Profile, he said, you know, yeah, it had been sliding some different kind of thoughts and not saying one's right or wrong, but just kind of different paths they wanted to go to. So at least this is focused. And, uh, and they heard, you know, from the vendors, from the people that, you know, it's got to step up a little bit. It sounds like it has, I mean, you've got a lot of the big companies going to be there. I look, the seminars look great. I mean, that's, this has got to be the one show I've been to where I'm more excited about the seminars than I am the actual tournaments. So you're going to yell out, where's my money to John Papadiuk for us? I never gave him a dime. You're smart. Well, a lot of people have been burned on a lot of games, let's be honest, right? So I'm curious about a lot of those. The American, the Deep Root like you said, Stern's got their day. It's going to be kind of cool. That's a lot of big wigs there. I'm looking forward to it. A four leaf clover and I've overlooked before. Okay. Wow, Bruce is in full Bruce today. Yeah, I'm looking forward to see the changes. We'll see what happens. We'll see how it goes. Bruce, I'm going to go watch Scott Denise. Anything you want me to say to him about TNA? He knows my thoughts. He knows. He knows all. Okay. We know his thoughts on you. You suck, Bruce. I do suck. I love that email. By the way, we heard that last week in the mail, Ballback. We have to ask you right now because Ron's on, I'm on, and I know Ron loves it. I love TMA. Bruce, I'm actually shocked you don't like the game and I don't understand why. It's a one shot pony. If you look at it, it really is a one shot pony. Which is the shot? Right hand, backhand. Into the locks? Yes. Okay, so that opens it up. Let's say you get the multi-ball, you're going to backhand it again. I就 speculation. 學기 fij recording This weekly press conference which one is this weekly launch момент απόmezı particeilgende táothsă, expansionligağı içĵ 언�已经, Actually, I asked him because I thought look at the way he plays right on the fly, go go go. I thought he'd like a game like that. He said uh, it's fun, but it's tough because the shots are so, the targets your hitting you know mid playfield. So it comes back really really quick and Ron said you can't cradle up on that game. It's hard to do with one ball, certainly with multi ball, but it's a tough game to do it on. So you really have to be shooting on the goal and you're right, yeah you go for the targets right away on the right. You backhand or forehand, either one but then after that, you've got some work to do. I got a little bit nervous throughout the game, so tonight we're having a very interesting tournament. It's a fun game. Give it another chance, Bruce, I really do think you'll like it. It's fun. It's the adrenaline you get. Look at Ron, who you can talk about too, on the Slam Tilt channel on Twitch. He's playing it and he's like kinda sweating, and I get it because I'm right there with you, Ron. The adrenaline is crazy on that game. And also I thought, Bruce, you'd be into the whole trying to coordinate the ball savers. That's like the hardest thing to do on the game, is control the inlane attribute. So you just roll the in lane out lanes so you don't take your ball saver before you want to. I do like that role but I just, I just… Is the price too much? Because I'll give you that. Price too much for alphabet. Yes. OK. I'll give you that. That seems a little high. It's a turnoff for me. I've said it before and I'll say it again for a single-layer playfield. I understand it's gonna cost $6000. That's what they say. It's gonna cost. And I don't know the pricing. I'm not going to say that they're wrong or right, but for me, I'd rather have two or three games for $6,000 that I know I'll have more fun with. That's all. Personal choice. Yep. So since that's only a single layer game, what dual layer games are there, Bruce? I want to know. Levels, you ass munch. Okay. Just checking. Okay, good. I like it. I call him ass munch once in a while. Paul, you'll love the male ball bag this week. Yes, I know. I'm so loved on that. Yes, you are. If you're playing single level games, I'd rather have a Dragon Fist and a Quicksilver. I'd pay a lot less for those, too. Those would be tough to buy for both the same price as a TNA. I got less. Did ya? Less, less. Nowadays, though? What did we buy the Quicksilver for? A year and a half? Yeah. Yeah, okay. And the Dragon Fist was nine months ago. I'm going to have to side with you. If I had a choice of TNA or those two games, I love all three. I'm taking the two games. And there's nothing different from the money, you know, from the music. The music is great on it. Oh, yeah. The display, that's another thing that bothers me a little bit about. The display is so like grainy looking. I know they're trying to get the 80s feel and the 80s thing for it, but it just doesn't utilize it as well as I think it should. The display is just... How many reactors have you gotten, Ron? Actually, the stream, that's the most I've gotten. So it's like six? Six? I think it was six and I was on the seventh. So that's as far as I've gotten. I got the two extra balls, so... Yeah, I've only gotten five and it's... I don't own the game but I've played it quite a bit and it's tough to do and I imagine, you know, if, which I doubt will ever happen, I get nine, I'd still want to play it again. Bruce, I have a question for you. Is TNA better or worse than KISS? Hold on a second here. I've been dying for you to do your Gene Simmons impression, okay? What do you mean impression? This is Gene Simmons. The problem with your Gene is that you're too sharp. You have to remember he's very, very confident, but he's a little more soft-spoken. He certainly promotes KISS and believes in the product. It's the greatest band of all time, but you have to be a little more soft-spoken. I'm a little broken. Okay. Whatever you say, I could be Gene's brother for all you know. Oh my god, I can't handle this song! You're kind of a cross between Gene and Paul Stanley. Paul has a little more of the sharp voice, but uh... I've been dying for you to do that. Oh, you wait. I got something planned for you. This is good. Is Paul Stanley still in the group? Did we throw him out yet? Paul Stanley's got a little higher voice, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he's got a very much higher voice. This is gonna be the all impressions show. My favorite thing about Paul is now that they're playing like lower gigs or playing casinos. Have you ever seen them? Oh God, it's just so funny to watch them at casinos because it's not their audience. It's people who've got comps and they're just like, they're just going through the motions. So I'm glad they've kind of decided to call it quits. But is this the all impression show? You mentioned Pinside Petey earlier. That son of a bitch isn't going anywhere. I'm not bringing him anywhere. She's a dick. Oh boy. You know how that all started, right? The Pinside Petey show. I'm going to be a shock to you, Bruce. Pinside on some of the forums has a lot of trolls and people who complain about everything. No. And bits and complaints. Yeah. So on head to head, they were talking about Iron Maiden and they were reading the reviews like first week Iron Maiden came out, everyone's like, oh my God, it's great, great, great. Holy shit, this guy's talking bad about it. How do you complain about it? The guy hasn't even played it and the complaint was something like, I hate the band. I give it a one out of 10. You know, Demoman has no flo, according to pinside. At least one of the ratings. You talking about Demoman? Hello? Hello sly. It's a great fucking game, man, what you talking about? I hear there's a new Rambo coming out. I mean, you're gonna be pretty old to be Rambo. No, no, no. I'm looking good, man. Pumped up. Rambo's gonna be awesome. It's cuz you're on like steroids, every possible drug known to man at this point. And his walker. He comes out in his walker and starts beating up people. He's hitting them with his walker. Rambo loses his machine gun and he takes Cialis to fight with a different weapon. I tell you, it's gonna be good. Oh boy. That's the all-person show. By the way, let me, I kid you about the gene thing. Nobody, nobody, not anybody, Seth MacFarlane, get a hold of Ron Hallett because nobody does Stewie better than you other than maybe Seth. I think it is bang on and anything that Mike Judge ever did. You are the king of those. Mike Judge, Mike Judge is my idol. No kidding, as you listen to every show, you nail everything, whether it's from obviously Beavis and Butthead, but even the King of the Hill. Oh, I love it. Everyone loves Hank Hill. Speaking of Hank Hill, you know where Hank Hill lives? Texas. You know what's also in Texas? Deep Root. Yeah. So the, this week in Pinball. You think they're going to make one? This week in Pinball's Jeff, he did a tour of the Deep Root facility. Did he get deep-rooted? And the interesting thing is looks like they recently had a party for landing a major 80s movie license
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    Has anyone heard anything on that? No. No. What's Pinside saying? I don't know. I haven't looked Yeah, I don't either. Did you know Roger Sharpe was on the head-to-head pinball podcast? Not one but two shows Yes, stretched it to a two-parter. Well, they asked him two questions. I love Roger, but as Josh says, he gives some long answers. So I wasn't surprised to hear. Can I give you, I'm going to pull back the curtain here. So they recorded that show. I was talking to Ryan and when they talked to Roger, took about three, if not four hours to record it. The first hour was just getting him set up on Skype because that was something new to him. So that's, Hey, listen, I've been there too, right? Like how does this thing work? Got it, got it. But then the show itself was three hours. He gets done, his wife's ㅋㅋ He did. There he got, it's already out. Uh, okay. What was the thing he said? They said that he had a, he wanted a chance to buy Williams. You mean when he put a group of investors together and they attempted to buy Williams, which he has said before. I know I've heard that. I know, he really went into it more and more. Ah, he went into it more and more. Okay. Yep. Damn, I was hoping it was something else I hadn't heard before. He ranks his favorite kids. Oh, God. It's one and two. I know who's two.
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    See, we'd like to have Roger Sharp on here, but we're not classy enough. Really. No. I bet you would come on for sure. We have to settle for Josh because, you know, he's more at our level of class. Yes. So that is This Week in Pinball. Also, news. We have more news. What news do we have, Bruce? New code for Batman 66. Oh yeah, I wrote that down. Still not version 1.0 though. No. What's the gas wizard mode they've got? I'm curious about that. I've been doing the gas wizard mode on every game. I do crop dusting all the time. It's a good weapon. It's underrated. It's a good weapon. It's underrated. It's totally underrated. You know what I want to know? When the hell is propane mode coming out? There you go. What the hell not match Bobby? Well, now that we've talked about head to head, I have a complaint about head to head. Oh boy. Okay. What's your complaint? They made fun of Stern early solid state machines. Martin said they were not as good as Bally's. Oh yeah, that was last week, yeah. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, he's high. Exactly. Drunk, I'll give you that. Yeah, well that too. Yeah, I will totally give you that. But, oh my god. He might have you though in the class of 81 though. Well the class of 81 is a toss up. We had that battle months ago and years ago and now, you know. Crapman, This is the head to head guys. Well, not the head. There was also another one. There was one was what straight down the middle. Yes, they did. Yeah, they had a segment called Face Off. Hmm. Zach and Greg, you bastards. Yes. Everyone rips us off. Oh, well, they did. Did they do it on video, though? It's different. If it's audio versus video. I think it was. I think it was audio. I don't know. I'm good. I'm I'm behind in my podcast listening. Yeah, I'm a little behind, too. I don't know if they're thinking. I don't know what they're thinking. Well, what games were they talking? Bally versus Stern? Were they? They said that Bally games are better than Sterns. And then I was like, the rules always have to be changed on Sterns. They also said the playfields were like more innovative on Bally. It's like, really? No, they were. They were innovative. No, not at all. Because always like, oh, let's go for inline drop targets. You can only go so many games with inline drop targets with ballys. They're great. Don't get me wrong. But there really is no innovation after that first or second game of inline drop targets. See, I've got a Flight 2000, which I know you like the, you like, is Gamatron, is that the one you like? Yes. Okay, so I've got Flight 2000 and I was thinking about, I like it a lot, I was thinking about selling it, but I thought, I got, if I do, I have to replace it with an old Stern game though, I can't just say goodbye to one. Just get Gamatron instead. Yeah, Gamatron rocks. Really? The Okay, well I do like to play 2000 but I I would love to get a quick silver I would definitely like stargazer Dragon fist I I don't think I'd get that and I like it. I
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    Think I've mastered it. I think I'm too damn good at the game I'm dying to play it at your place Bruce at silver ball saloon or even at versus or Ron's level zero. Yeah level zero I want to meet the person who's master dragon fist. Yeah, holy shit. I want to see always like so you've gotten 7x So Jeff is the master of the fist. He's the fist master. I got it down pat. I just bend over and let it go. It was, I thank Escher Lefkof actually, because we were playing at IFPA15 at Adam Becker's place and he said, do this. You're fine just now.
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    Yes, now Raza's the secret. Now, John's not the secret. The secret of my brain. His konkret posture move state not the triggerają the conditioned sido canc待ılàng gueener oh shoot Subscribe Share graduate, graduate graduate degree inNote courses Embankment,
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    I Nãoichiço no meu tempo Aah Jayerc Just telling you, I lived on that. So what you're saying is the flippers were adjusted incorrectly. That's what I'm hearing. That game, okay. There's nothing against that. I'll tell you, I'll tell you. Didn't pay attention to it. I was able to catch, it's been so long since I've played the game. Every shot was on the right. So when I did have it on the left, I let the ball drain. It hit the, do you have the rubber on the middle post? It doesn't have a middle post. It doesn't? We're talking about the same game. Dragon Fist. Dragon Fist does not have a center post. Oh, I played a game that did. No wonder I killed it. Jesus, that's wrong. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute, you're saying the Dragon Fist at IFBA had a center post in it. It had a center post. Oh my God. So if I let it drain, it would bounce immediately over the right. I'm like, this is the dumbest thing ever. You sure you aren't confused with stars? I know stars very well. No, no, trust me, trust me, trust me. Did it have Bruce Lee on the playfield? I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying the one I played had one on this game. Obviously since installed after the fact, which is ridiculous. But I was like, this is nuts. That, oh, no. That's just, that hurts inside. Oh. Well, and that was at IFPA 15. How dare they do that? That boy, right, you know, you think the players would be better. Wouldn't need that kind of help. It was the dumbest thing because it was, it looked gutsy. I'm like, really? I gotta let it go? He goes, it'll bounce over every time. What's a pinball courtside? Wellваilliam star mencioned a threeills shoot against the Inter poop one man against time in order to save field changes today through games but yeahdemani how to label it expertmail přndži rec Netherlands I'm ready to text Adam. Yeah, you know what? I'm going to do it right now. It's a good idea. Do you still masturbate? Fucking just type that, damn it.
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    I love my life. What's that game? Card game? People against humanity? Oh my god. Okay, so I sent him a note. He's not online right now. So we'll have to wait and find out. Okay. What were we talking about? I said I mastered it and you said there's not supposed to be a center post on it. You're right. Okay, I suck at it. But what were you talking about, Bruce? How Martin is so wrong and he says the only reason why Sterns are bad because we always modify rules for Sterns. We never modified stars rules. Agree or disagree Ron? No, we never modified the rules for stars, no. Even playing stars without it modified, still a great game. No, we never did though and it's still a great game. We never modified the rules for Quicksilver, all we modified was the sounds. That's not true. You didn't modify the rules for Quicksilver? Scott added the ability to not carry over the bonus multiplier. I wouldn't go this route because pretty much every single Stern I have is running modified software. Yeah, but I wish I modified more of a Bality software. Example? On hotdogging. The three drop targets for the multipliers. It goes 2x, 3x, and then 5x. File veterinarian Franz PoolSindler, Christian Inb.'s opinion, we
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    become robbers programs yeah you can do that's dead expect the old Talk. Nickyon Balcrewski, David Kas ASMR. However the Italian had both one per How was Kinail named after a delta histories at a utility cancer or intravenous Pey dread Sirnick Rhett Vernon F pipe Sohi Systems ejex which morphed Torbjorn Fee Esseay listenersn do Complete from Ubisoft I have said so long since then but it kind of never had changed unless I knew it was just a marry comin' but the conflict needon't make a big amount of sense WPPR monaster Has proven that some people make money making money I'm going to have to hate it. It sucks.
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    And it sucks. There's a lot better ballets there. I'll take the game. I love it. There are better ones. You're right. Oh, um, speaking of bad games, remember Hot Shots?
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    Mm-hmm. The pedophile game. Uh, yes. Jerry from the OCPC wanted me to just remind that he got that game for free.
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    That's fine. Yeah. Totally. That's totally fine. This Week in Pinballgrunting teleportới mosquitoestoire 절�integr commod I would just flip it real fast to make some money on it and buy a better game. Okay, can we just say Martin's wrong and get on to the next subject? Yes. Martin's wrong. Martin's wrong. You know you have too many games if... You run out of electricity in your house. No. If you have a visitor to your house, one of our podcast listeners emailed me, said he was going to be in the area, could he stop by? Who was it? It was David from Philadelphia and he had about two hours to stop by and play some games. In two hours, we got through about three quarter, three quarters of my games. Could not get through all of them in two hours. Wow. It's not a bad problem. That's pretty cool, man. It's a great problem. So you may have too many games if that happens. No. It's good. I always like watching your stomp streams and seeing your basement. I think your collection's great. I still don't agree that you sold Star Trek versus Spider-Man. Sorry. I don't understand that one. You'll be happy to know, Bruce, like Spider-Man, I put the little gate back in by the upper flipper so it slows the ball down. I was going to put stuff back into it, get it ready to sell. Then I played about five or six games of it and then I changed my mind again. Mine's up for the sale block. Oh, it is. Yes, I saw that. On the block. Really? Mm-hmm. Never get rid of Star Trek. Of course. I guess what I found out also, my dialed-in manual is on its way. So it's coming by heavyweight courier. Probably. It'll probably be like North American Van Lines will have to deliver it. I'll have to sign for it. With a loading dock. Yeah. It'll come on a pallet. I'll have to make sure that there's no damage before I sign for it. It's going to be the greatest manual ever. Ever. So, was anyone in a tournament this past weekend? Nope. © 2020 для Wilmot I'm going to run it, actually. So I'm just going with the first thing I come to think of. It was an enjoyable time. It was. Howard's was great. One of the things I remember is Howard has a countdown. And it's had Frank, the towel, it's had his high score on there for forever. Years. 1.2 million. And there's like this increasing bounty on it. Whoever can beat this score. And it was finally beaten. By? Jerry, of course. Oh, Sab. Yeah, Sab. He got 1.6 million. Wow. So I don't think anyone's beating that anytime soon. Yeah, he literally got like a $70 bounty. It just built up over the course of years. People putting like, like, I think it's a dollar or whatever the hell it is, or $5. Like half it goes to Project Pinball. Nice. That was finally beaten. As far as the tournament, basically, it was four hours of match play. There were a lot of people who asked me if I played pinball. At the end of that, the top ten went into, like, the finals, the final rounds. Guess where I finished? 11th. Correct! Quick bet. By one point. Isn't that great? Whole point. Yeah. I had a tilt through in one game, so I got, like, nothing. That hurt. I had at least two games where I lost by maybe a hundred points or a thousand points, which happens a lot on the old EMs. That's where most of these games were. I felt I actually played good, but didn't make it. Where are you time because we're on a competition set and you say you don't know, you don't know the points you got, you don't know where you're in the standings. Did you know going into the last year and what you needed? Yeah, it's Swiss pairing, so you kind of know by what group you're in if you have a shot. So I knew by that I had a shot. And I had, trying to figure out, trying to remember what I did the last game. It was, he has a lot of one player games. So you have to play and then you wait for the other person to play, which I hate, because then you just pray they don't pass you. And I think I got passed by like some minuscule number. And that was like the one point I needed. So that hurt. But after the tournament or after the tournament, I was like, After I was eliminated, Steph, the Pinball Princess did a stream. She brought her streaming gear. We did a chillin at Howard's. It was streamed for like six hours. It was a long stream. We finished it like two in the morning. So if you want to watch it, many characters make appearances, I should say. Many of Ron's alter egos make an appearance. It's at the Pinball Princesses Twitch channel. Now just be twitch.tv slash pinball princess. Check it out. It's up there for all to view. Uh, you know, Python makes an appearance, which is always entertaining. I've never seen your Python. Uh, you know, you asked for it. That is true. You will not see my Python ever. You are quite the disgusting man, I must say. So when are you going to do Python? When will I what? When are you going to do Python? John, we're waiting. Come on. Let's go. We're waiting. Come on. That is very funny. You have not designed pinball machines like I have. I only know about them from lesson because when I got into the pinball – Yes, that is right. I am a legend. You got something right. Yes, yes, yes. But I was after the fact. So it's only about hearing the stories of him and talking to Barry Ousler and some of the things that he did. I mean, what a character saturate authorizationand Fin conclude
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    Dead silence, yes. Oh my. We're in bed. So any dead man knows. You know, I think Mr. Jeff has like Canadian internet because he keeps cutting out badly. Oh. Yes, you are cutting out. I literally can't hear anything. It sounds like that. All right, just edit it out. Is it gone? Is it still bad? It is still bad. Well, Bruce, what are you hearing? I'm hearing the same thing, so you must be on PornHub on the other... Yes. Close one of your... couple of your windows. Yes, close some of your windows. Hold on, hold on. Stop streaming the porn. Alright, dammit. Although he has a teenage son, it's very possible you may not want to go into his room right now. Or clean his sheets. Ugh! Any better? Yes. Yeah, it's better now? Little bit. Let me talk to the boss... let me go make sure my wife's got hers off, hold on. Blame Canada, Blame Canada. Oh Canada, our crappy internet. Oh Canada, why can't I get online? But it was a fun tournament. I enjoyed it. That's good. As I always do. I like playing all the old EMs. So the winner was Flying Brian won. I saw that. Yep. Jerry finished second. So congratulations. How ultra-life is porn, and what can make your gif cool? Tell the story. Well, I, uh, one of my good friends, he actually was, uh, in my wedding party, buys and sells games a lot and he still is in the hobby and he goes, I got two games for sale. Okay, what do you got? He goes, I got firepower and I got this other game and I'm looking at going, well, how much you want for the other game? He's like, he gave me a number and I was like, well, I'm not interested in it, but I might know somebody who does and that would be my buddy Ron. So I passed off the deal to Mr. Ron, being the good person I am, and Ron went down and picked up this game. And now you can continue with your whole story. I picked up a prostator. I mean a prospector. So you got Laureled and Hardied? Laureled and Hardy. One of my favorite Sonics. Picked it up. It's the back glass is perfect. The playfield, it's got a couple marks on it, but it's a typical sonic playfield, i.e. clear-coated, i.e. still looks good. And the cabinet's in good shape, which is unusual for most of the Sonics. Their cabinets are pretty shitty. Yeah, so just keep it in a nice, dry room forever. Yep, that's where it is right now. It has, let's see, the left flipper bat is busted. The right flipper didn't work, but that was just a wire fell off. The There's a couple things that aren't working
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    Such a great game. Is that your second EM? Yep Second EM. Got Spanish Eyes and the Prostator right next to each other right now So they're there where the head the heads-up challenge was the two stars That's where they're sitting So I did have more room. See? Yeah, see? At this point, I'm pretty much tapped out on room The No, you're still born. No, well if I put some in the middle So there's absolutely no room for anyone to walk around or sit or have a table to put stuff on Yeah, but I'm not doing good. We finally agreed. No, hey Bruce, you know Ron's collection. Which game should Ron sell? if it was Zack it would be next generation haha For me, it'd be dialed in webinars I'm just looking forward to so, and, and, in fact, Bruce, you should know about I bought a lot for you. You got it. But, uh, yeah, that wasn't no, not the Simpson's pinball party. You betcha. You failed. Oh, horrible. No, you horrible decision. You're fun, fun, fun, fun. It's fun. Yeah, it's real fun when I'm playing in the league. Hey, Bruce, you know long our league took this past week with Twilight Zone and Simpson's pinball party? Twelve people, seven and a half hours. We each have to play each game twice. The No Jesus Three hours Took three hours, five to eight That's painful, so painful It's gonna be in our league game, we've got twenty players coming to my place in about a month's time and that'll be in for sure I know No extra balls No, neither did we, we didn't have that That me was kept in one which i think to some degree the ye when i was rich ain non geographic I, the first time I ever played Amy, she was just on fire at Cleveland Pin and I, it wasn't just a good day. I mean, this is, this is a great player. So yeah, that's good that you've got, like you say, 33%. That's definitely above the norm. Most around 20% I find, but that's good. Good, good, good. So Albany, we are progressive. Yes. There you go. You know how I did Bruce? You lost. No, actually I won every single game. Cnob pitch... I'll be doing that next week because I already I played my games for next week and they were not good. They were not good so hopefully people can beat me. Oh Bruce went through the email it looks like. No I didn't. Yeah you did. I could tell they were all opened and I purposely left them on opened. No never did that. Yeah okay okay Bruce we gotta have some lessons on IT here. I don't care if you see it I've never been through it. Okay so the first email Oh, this is the mail ball bag. Hey, how are you doing there? Come on, you can say your comment. No. No? Okay. First email is from Robert Byers. Oh! Okay. Episode. That was delayed. Yeah, it was delayed. That was strictly for Robert. No, it was actually Robert Byer. I stayed with him in New York. I went to the New York City Players Championship. That was our pinball championship. That was fun. And nine months later you'll be pregnant. I was wrong. Oh boy. What did Robert have to say? Episode 109. That's his first one. Read as Bravia. I don't know what that means. B-R-A-V-I-A. I don't know. Or maybe it says read as Bravia. Hey, how's it going? Part 1. I want to know what you edited out when Bruce was talking about boomeranging people and you were calling him out. It just jumped to the next conversation. Who knows? Maybe you made some highly inappropriate comment. Not me. Not you. Part 2. Also, I'm stealing that Bruce-ism in the bonus material. Every time I say goodbye to someone, I'm gonna leave them with, keep in touch with yourself. I've been saying that for years. Mmhmm. Part 3. We don't have a TNA in Austin, so I've only played it a few times. I can see how after you beat Reactor 9, it could be a little boring. However, playing group mode as a team to trying to destroy the reactor and cheering each other on was so different from tournament pinball. I could play it all day with friends. So awesome. Bruce not liking. Fail.
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    Here you go, Bruce. The people have spoken. People have spoken. Game update. So I added a Star Trek Pro and an Iron Maiden to the collection. Up to eight games now. So awesome. Tech question and I'm a step above newbie at best with repairs. Paragon is only getting 4.3 volts to the MPU. I changed the capacitor and no change in voltage. What next? Capacitor? Oh, on the driver board? I'm assuming. Well, make sure you're getting the proper voltage to the driver board, which is I think the 12 volts you have to get and then converts it on the, if not, you'll have to rebuild the 5 volt section of the driver board. And make sure you're getting the voltage from, as I said, from the front of transformer rectifier board up to the driver board and then work your way across and see where it drops off at. That's way past just past noob. I'm already lost. Work your way across. Thanks Robert Chop Byers, player 164. P.S. Keep in touch with yourself. Good boy. So next we have Jim from the Sanctum and his subject line is Bruce is wrong. Nah You totally were right Ron. Bruce said which games are not a widebody and To further correct Bruce Hulk is a system one game a few test games went out prototyping the 80 board set in Hulk. That's all
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    Unfortunately an IPDB does not state that Thank you Jim. It's possible IPDB is wrong Never. No, never. Never. Next one from Andrew Clark. Also saying that, I guess kind of saying you're wrong. You said games, plural. Well, I have a rebuttal for that one later on. Okay. Well, I, yeah. So then the next one we got Robert Byers again.
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    See, record a regular episode followed by a tech segment occasionally, but break them up as an, as episode 100 and 100 T. Timing and Subtitles by the Amara.org community
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    HarmanS капarov, Jay Am and T. September Ncari travel quandary David Pogeda, JohnPopaday. I just got sick so quickly. I didn't know you even had cancer. I was... September 17th I think was give or take a few days when he kind of went to the hospital. I'm not feeling well. My stomach's really bad. So he actually called me two weeks ago because we're actually quite good buds. In fact, I was going to Freeplay Florida. He and I were staying in the same room. So, you know, I hung out with him at Buffalo. We were after the Buffalo Pinball Summer Open. I'm going to go to the, uh, whatever Seneca casino and hung out for a few hours there before he went his way. I went my way. So we've always kind of kept in touch and then he just got really, really sick, followed from his wife and then he, he FaceTimed me exactly two weeks ago from the hospital and told me about the ordeal he just went through and he, and sadly he goes, you know, hopefully the worst is, is passed now, but, uh, we'll find out more tomorrow. Um, they had pumped 24 pounds. Conaneted My pleasure. Jasper Katz during the rice I think of you Bruce, I think of Greg Pavarelli, I think of all these people that have gone through this stuff. It's just bloody hell and man, I'm going to miss that guy and certainly thinking of cancer survivors and those dealing with it right now, it sucks man, it sucks. It does. Cancer sucks. On a more positive note, Mr. Pavarelli got some good news. Yes he did. I did. Well, no, he's cancer free. Yeah, he's, he's, uh, he beats his name. His lymph nodes are all clear. So Greg beat it. He is going to be on a future episode and we will talk all about his adventures dealing with the big C. Okay, Jeff, you found out some information. Adam Becker just confirmed that his dragon fist has a center post. I didn't ask whether it was factory or not. Obviously not. It's not factory. So there you go. It was obviously quite, quite easy. Mmm. Fail. So someone like really was getting their ass kicked by Dragon Fist and decided to take a extreme action. Yep. Ugh. There were rubbers also, like elastic bands covering the outlanes too. Just kidding. No, no, that's not even funny. I saw somebody do that on Twilight Zone once on the left outlane. So when it came David Van Es, Knapp Arcade. I've seen it once or twice and I was like what the hell? Answer to Robert Byers' suggestion, no. No more extra shows. No more extra shows, no more editing, it's already a pain in the ass as it is. Yeah, he doesn't like work Robert, sorry, he's denying you people. Bruce it's tough, I'm on Ron's side, it's not easy. I think it's very easy, editing is a dream. Logitech West acabar grad considered no Okay shut up Next Next email from Robert Byers again This is the Robert Byers mailbag here He realized you can type more than one things on one email right As a step above newbie if it plays he talking about the stars from last week The stars where the knocker goes off every time the chimes are supposed to go off As a step above newbie if it plays fine and no other issue but the knocker I would just disconnect the knocker Done Uh, the one gave me an email. You know that guy, the one we talk about once in a while. He said he thinks it's a, he, he goes, duh, I think it's a, he goes, it's the driver board, Bruce. And I said, well, I said, did he write duh? He did. Duh, he goes, it's a driver board. And I came back saying, I said it was a driver board. Then I started going way too deep into it and never got back to me. But he didn't read it. We have another email from Robert Byers. Oh my God. Robert, we love you, brother. Bruce, fail. I thought there were 15 as well based on his description, as in 15 widebodies that are regular-sized widebodies. System A. Bruce, I love you. I thought so too when you described that. You're just wrong. It's Canadian. Canadian, Texan, Albany, everything. Yeah, they're all just fucked up. The next email we have from Roy at Sea, and it's about, it's would you buy that? And he's sending us an eBay link. You want to save that? He doesn't know if it will still be up, but it is. It's still up. It is still up. You want to save that? Tell me. It is 202-456-971-812. If you don't find it, you might have to go to the Aussie version. Nope. I was able to look it up on my side, but I don't know if you can. Ah darn it. It doesn't show up. What is it? It is a Magic by Stern. This week at Stern. Now, its current bid is at $1,701 Australian. I have no idea how much that is American. How much do you think it is? $27.68. What? Come on, man. You don't know what it is? I'm doing it right now. I was just joking because their dollar seems like it's a lot more. I think it means a lot less than ours. $1,205. dusünüzveryllaise You can get paid It's an amazing auction. It says it's amazing. Amazing! Amazing! Stern Pinball. Stern Magic Pinball working condition. The playfield is excellent. Cabinet 8 out of 10, backglass 8 out of 10. I've gone over the machine and it's fully working. I just put new rubbers and cleaned the playfield and given it a general check over with all solenoids, flipper lamps and switches in good working order. He spelled solenoids right.
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    And he took his pictures without playfield glass. I mean, he's already a winner, my book. Big pet peeve, isn't it, Ron? Mm-hmm. And it's Pinball Medic. That sounds familiar. Is that like Brian C. or something, like with another name? Medic. Dr. C.? Dr. John? No. It's someone with 300 feedback, so... Dr. John sounds so... No. No, no. I just thought I'd seen that particular eBay name before. Would you buy that, Ron? For a thousand-something dollars? $12 in the U.S. Well, probably not. Unless I really liked magic. I don't like magic. I'm going to say I'm going to give you another number now while we're doing it while we're in the piece of this 401-605-687-659.
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    Okay, Stern Magic Pinball Machine. It's in Indiana. 1979 Sternpinballmagic I mean sternmagicpinballmachine for $995. At least that's the starting bid. There's also a make it offer option. You don't have to buy it now, $995. Yep. There's also a make it offer option. Yep. Playfield is clean, stripped and waxed. There's a wear mark on the out hole. Upper left. There's also some wear in the center. Someone did a nice job of matching color and covering it with mylar prior to me obtaining the pin. It's got LEDs in the GI lighting in backbox so we know you'll love it. Bruce is out. Oh, it gets better. It has all new colored bands. Oh, yes. It has one broken plastic on the left side. I made clear Lexan protector to mount under it so no more damage. Okay, what don't you like about it? Fourth picture. Okay, what color are the bands on the slingshots? White. Actually, no. They're like translucent. Okay. Razanesota. Many thanks to our sponsor Foodificación Muito Home, N Cat Myrdes. In fact, we are employed at to hello U.S Touch. The Toolboy the The Parts also, but oh my god, please people Why? So you would not buy that because of the the colors are terrible the wear is terrible also All right, so Bruce would not buy that. No, okay, but it was just like I saw this I'm like, oh my god, it's clown puke sit a clown LEDs. It's clown rubbers Clown rubbers shouldn't all clowns have rubbers Yes, there's in there. There's green and there's pink and then there's purple and then there's oh my god The guy just went, I got all these extras from all these pinball kits. Let's go put them on together. The next email is from Scott C. Hey Scott C. Hi Scott. Mr. and Mrs. Pacman let you choose directions with the flipper buttons and move forward when playing the Pacman game in the grid lights. Okay. At least it's not motor dome. True. That's true. The StarsKnocker issue, okay he's got a take on this, is likely the input connector input path. A different solenoid firing is a classic example of a missing input line. If they do the solenoid test, you will get at least one solenoid repeating and one missing. That's the lower right small connector on the driver board. So there you go. Okay. I can't believe both of you missed the worst EMD of all time during the Ryan C. Show. Partyzone. NAT GILLIGANS ISLAND
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    For that one like brief thing where you're supposed to hit the same shot like what five six times in a row to actually get the jackpot Mm-hmm before the timer runs out and you keep hitting it and that that's the whole game At least party zone has a better atmosphere Yes I'd rather play both those games. I'd rather play that than roadshow Any day of the week any day of the week Oh no roadshow shows my worst b&b for sure No way Terrible game. Have a little thing I'll think about you. Have a little... Okay. Next email is from Greg. Hi, Greg. Let's see. Good day, boys. Regarding the guy with the machine that knocks three times, I'd go even simpler still and take a look at the MPU battery. Maybe it is flat and causing all sorts of weirdness. Cheers, Greg. So there's another thing to look at. Then, final email. This is from Jim. Hi, Jim. We have episode 110. Oh, he's got time codes here. Episode110 at 40 minutes and 27 seconds. Bruce, what system 80 games, plural, are non-widebody? In Bruce's defense, this is the only way to ask the question without revealing that there is only one correct selection. But what followed was like John Ritter and Don Knotts. Ron, you said there must be about 10 games that were not widebody. But Bruce took that to mean First of all, I first time across in ur mainstream e rooting animation.com surgeons should follow up with the pandemic entryUolina to call for professionals, Twelve then films and only in a few fabićals, whole No, it's not a prototype. Yep, much like the solid state Bally Flicker, Bally Kiss with Speech or Alpha Numeric 8 Ball Deluxe. I was listening to this episode while on an errand. Thank you more for making it a lot more enjoyable. Jim, Dallas, Texas. Okay, now let's go back to eBay for two seconds. Go right to it. Ticket number 232-939-907. 076. Okay, it says pinball machine for sale. No, no. Please say that again. It says pinball machines for sale. Okay, thank you. Machines, plural, right? Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, there's one machine here. Yes, exactly. It says pinball machines for sale. Condition is used. And there's one pinball machine there, right? Yeah. So see, people do make sometimes mistakes. This is the lamest like... It's just a ball busting thing and I like doing this to you. But hey... Wait a minute, how are you ball busting me? You're saying that you made a mistake... I'm ball busting people. And this person also made a mistake, so you're admitting that you made a mistake. Of course I admit mistakes, unlike yourself. No, I just edit mine out. But you can get the shipping for this machine for $3.75, that's the biggest mistake. Yeah, I'm guessing that probably wouldn't be honored. You can get it shipped by UPS vs. Sanktams. So was that your rebuttal? Yes. That was some lame ass rebuttal dude. Thank you sir. Okay. Oh, so that empties out the mail ball bag. So we got Robert Byer saying you're wrong. We have Jim from the Sanktams saying you're wrong. Everyone's saying you're wrong. Scott Denise says you suck. The other guy said I was not wrong. He saw my side of it also. He had more He had more detail at everything and he Well yes, it was more in the middle. Wasn't like really either way. Exactly. He didn't say it was right. He didn't say it was wrong but he said it was in the middle. But you were wrong but it was a misunderstanding but you were still wrong. No. Yes. Okay, so you won't admit you're wrong after just saying you'd admit when you're wrong. Yes, exactly but I wasn't wrong there. That's the only deal. Oh, my head hurts. Okay, let's check off the mail ball bag. That's done. What are you doing this weekend, Ron? Coming up? I'm going to The Silver Ball Saloon Pin Golf Tournament. You got it, punk. Oh, alright. Am I still going now? You call me a punk? Yeah, right. You love me. Bruce, I feel terrible I'm not going. It's the... Fail. It is a fail. It's the first time I think you've had a big event there that I haven't come and had a lot of fun there and got my butt kicked, but I can't do it this time. But it's going to be great fun. PinGolf, love it. Yes. I'm doing the putting the scores up this week. I'm getting them all printed out so they're all beyond the games when people walk in. And we're gonna have some good clean family fun at the Cedar Bowl Saloon. Which is located where? 135 West Commercial Street East Rochester, New York. We are open at 12 on Saturday. Start your practice and we will start promptly at 1 for the tournament. Ron, you better hope that Star Trek's not in there. You might have forgotten how to play that now that you've sold it. Oh, Ronda's very good on my Star Trek. I've won Star Trek almost every game I've played on it. Except for against Steve Bowden. Well, yeah. Steve went nuts on that game. Yes, he did. He did. But I, you know, but Ronda's had to play it. I will give him that. It's one of the rule sets you can't understand. Uh, thank you. It's true, right? Thank you once again. I have no comeback. Sorry. Yeah. And there's also a pinball show this weekend. There is? Yes, there is. And what pinball show would that be? One we haven't mentioned. The York Pinball Show. Hmm. In York, Pennsylvania, Friday and Saturday. Go to the York Pinball Show Friday and then come up and check out good pin golf at Silverwall Saloon. Will you be going to the show, Bruce? Most likely not unless somebody buys my Spider-Man and I'll meet him down there Friday. Which you probably sell it to them and then just leave. Yes. But I did sell my Future Spot today. Future Spot is gone. If you like sank I mean what you did a too optimal
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    This week's competition of theOver the This Week in Pinball Podcast, Termsdisciplinary We do ours the second Monday in October and I always, funny enough, always celebrate the American one too because extra turkey, it's a lot of fun and I usually head down to Detroit and watch a football game on the, whatever that Thursday is and try to get the heck out of there before Black Friday and all the crazy sales that go on. But that's what's going on here, getting ready for Expo and this is why I can't go to Silver Bowl Saloon. I'm going to the Sanct and Bruce, you're already in. Where are you on the waitlist now, Ron? I'm in the not getting in list. You never know. Let's see. No, I'm not getting in. And then Free Play Florida, so 4 weekends in a row, I'd be away. If I tried to do Silverball Saloon, I might have to live there. Bruce. You're more than welcome to. You're going to be at Free Play Florida too? Yes, sir. Ah. It's great. You going down there, Ron? I will have to deal with Jeff twice in the upcoming month. Hey, it's a great tournament. You'll love it. Daniel Spoiler does a great job. Oh, we've all been there. I've been there. Ron? Yes. You are 15th on the waitlist right now. So you're moving on up. That's not bad. Not making it. I'm not making it. I mean, I'll probably make a cursory trip down in case someone doesn't show up and no one ahead of me is there, which I can't believe there wouldn't be other people that are ahead of me that would also go. How far is that from you? Like two hours. Yeah, two, two and a half hours. Yeah, it's not bad. So that's why I give it a try. Hey, if my flight from Italy doesn't come back, you've got it. I gotta, I gotta fly back from Italy and then go right to the sanctum. How stupid is that? Little jet lag and then a 24 hour tournament. Hey, who's the smart guy here? Also, what you're saying is you're getting excuses ready now. Torn meniscus. I've got the jetlag. Jetlag. That's all I'm hearing. I'm just hearing excuses. Conversion of the Canadian-American dollar. I got a million excuses, all right? Mhm. Ron, I think I could save at least... I think I might get you up in the standings. We just call everyone at Border Patrol.
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    And we tell them that the six or seven Canadians that are in the top 100 can't make it because they're all smuggling over some illegal thing It's legal in a boat 8 days. By the way, I know it is. I noticed that's even worse
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    That's gonna be crazy. Oh god, October 17th. Canada officially becomes Colorado Yes, cool. And October 18th and 19th. No one's gonna be going to work
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    Oh God so I don't get it. I mean, I'm going to Bruce's tournament and expo. What's the problem? You're not going to Italy No, I'm not going Italy Although I am Italian, but I'm not going Italy. I my wife has a work trip there I'm like guess who's coming this guy and so we're gonna do Italy and Switzerland in six days and then come back to I got a flight at this is stupid. I got a flight of Toronto then to Hartford So like I can't go directly to Hartford. I guess there's just not a lot of Milan Hartford connections. You know into Boston No, it's not a bad idea, too. I might have to look at that. Yeah, because Boston I need you and take a car from Boston I gotta figure out how I'm gonna get from Hartford to wherever the sanctum is. I'll figure it out. It's about 40 minutes south. Yeah. Yeah, Hartford is about 40 minutes north so you have to drive 40 minutes south to get to the... I'm not renting a car so somebody from Uber or the taxi company is gonna make a good buck that day. Mm-hmm. So Bruce, you got anything? What else? So... Repairs? I'm thinking right now. A couple broken wires this week. This week, stuck switch on the ball bowler, which was a pain in the ass. I got to take the lane apart.
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    Other than that, just moving some games around and getting ready for the pin golf. Sorry, getting ready for the pin golf. Big time.
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    If I do go down to New York, I'll be able to bring some pinball lifters down. Wink, wink, hint, hint, since we haven't talked about that in a while. And one of our friends at a show said that we haven't been talking about it. So where would I go to find out information about that? www.pinballlifter.com If you are buyers is emailing up the inbox right? That cut out. Completely cut out. Damn it. Can you hear me now? No, still rocking up. Fuck. Get off that pornhug again. See, as soon as I brought up pornhug, he went, let me click on these buttons. Still cutting out, still cutting out. I'm a little better, but not great.
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    That's okay. The joke was if you can get on the email, Robert Byers is filling up your inbox as we speak. Yeah, that he is. That he is. Well, I think I think we're about done because Jeff keeps breaking up because of his poor Canadian Internet. We heard about a story. You got a story for me. Take off a take off a I think you didn't pay for his Internet. They're going to call up, hey, Jeff, you got my money? Lose my money, Jeff? Come on, you want some internet? Look, we legalized marijuana, we lose the internet. It was a fair trade-off. Fair trade-off. I know a lot of pinheads that would agree completely with that.
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    You guys are coming on my show in November because we are going to celebrate the Silver Ball Saloon one anniversary. This week's episode is a little bit more of a mystery, so I'm looking forward to having Ron and Bruce on Pinball Profile. It's always great talking to you, whether off air or on air, and I look forward to seeing both of you guys very soon. Cool. Thank you, Jeff. This is Pinball Profile, so we might even record this like tomorrow, and it'll be in the can for like a month. Wow. So true. So true. So thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Bruce. So this has been the Slam Tilt Podcast. This was episode 111 of Uncharted. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Bruce. So this has been the Slam Tilt Podcast. This was episode 111 of Uncharted. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Bruce. Thank you, Jeff. This week's episode is the Slamto Podcast. This was episode 111, Avengers Infinity War. We're the Slamto Podcast. Again, we can be reached at slamtopodcast.gmail.com. Look for us on Facebook, Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube. Don't forget Pinball Star, Joe Newhart. Go to him for all your non-stern pinball needs. You want a new Thunderbirds? Go to Joe. You want a wonderful Total Nuclear Annihilation or a Dialed In or the new Pirates? Go to Joe. You want a new Thunderbirds? Go to Joe. You want a wonderful Total Nuclear Annihilation or a Dialed In or the new Pirates? Go to Joe. You can go to Joe. Bruce is going there right now because he wants a TNA, right? No? Sure, Bruce? Positive. Okay. And then we have Mike Fupo, Flipper Fidelity. Go to him for all your pinball sound needs. He is also a Stern distributor. Thanks, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Andrea Jane. How to play Pinball Alright, I'm so busy with my work tower. It might not be as good as expectedkolayiva ceteraölölö GMÖ 잇zier Oh my!
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    Oh my! And nabbed a Well, adding him in We need to see doctor when he rubs the tool hard
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    Although dear Better. Oh, how are you? Alrighty So, is doctor to read this. Because when you rub your cock really hard, it turns red and you gotta call the doctor And there's the out cue after the show is done, right? Not even after, before we're testing the recording. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast. A-sha-ba-show? A-show? S'ow. Strangers in the night. Exchanging rubbers, make mine extra tight. Oh. Or else for another. What? Strangers in the night exchanging rubber make mine extra tight I'll ask for another. Just be more stuff to cut, no problem. Don't worry, it's not me. I'm the hardest working editor in show business without a doubt. Don't you hate editing? It's so brutal. I love it. It's so easy to do. Shut up. And I gotta get this thing done early too.