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#126 Pintastic Preview - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 55m·analyzed·Mar 31, 2025
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TL;DR

Dave shares detailed restoration stories from Connecticut workations and discusses classic pinball repair techniques.

Summary

Dave recounts extensive restoration work on classic pinball machines during recent 'workations' in Connecticut, including a severely damaged Williams Getaway that required multiple board replacements due to electrical surge damage, and three games at a generous collector's home. The episode emphasizes restoration challenges, customer service experiences, and technical troubleshooting of vintage pinball hardware.

Key Claims

  • A Williams Getaway cabinet suffered catastrophic electrical damage when an 18-wheeler truck pulled down power lines, causing the electric company to mistakenly supply 220 volts to the house instead of 110/115 volts.

    high confidence · Dave describing the damage incident to George; corroborated by John Day (EE friend) diagnosis

  • The Getaway required replacement of three circuit boards: MPU, driver board (~$600), and Flip-tronic board; total restoration cost exceeded initial quote but customer accepted additional labor.

    high confidence · Dave detailing parts costs and repairs performed

  • Williams games from the 1990s are prone to cabinet floor bowing due to moisture damage to MDF board, unlike Bally games which do not exhibit this problem.

    high confidence · Dave's observation and comparison of classic game construction

  • Varistors and certain other electrical components in vintage pinball machines look identical but serve opposite functions; installing the wrong component creates a short circuit.

    high confidence · John Day (electrical engineer) diagnosis during phone conversation with Dave

  • A Connecticut customer with three games (Phoenix, Bobby O'Power Play, Serpent Safari System 3) paid Dave $1,000+ above his quoted rate and gifted $500 worth of high-end wine bottles (ranging $75-$150 each).

    high confidence · Dave's detailed account of Connecticut customer interaction and payment

Notable Quotes

  • “You jackass. You jackass.”

    Alfalfa the donkey @ early in episode — Memorable intro to Dave's Connecticut farmhouse stay; establishes tone of storytelling

  • “I've been looking for someone like you for years. I couldn't find anybody. I had to go look in the Massachusetts to find you because no one wanted to work on the game.”

    Connecticut Getaway owner @ mid-restoration conversation — Illustrates scarcity of pinball restoration expertise and demand for qualified technicians

  • “The price is no object.”

    Bob (Connecticut collector with three games) @ initial phone conversation — Indicator of high-value customer segment willing to pay premium for quality work

  • “I believe in karma, all about karma and I do right by people and they do right by me.”

    Bob (Connecticut collector) @ during lunch conversation — Reveals customer philosophy and explains generous tip/gift behavior

  • “Well, that seems to be what everybody does now. Instead of repairing boards, it's cheaper to just go buy a new one.”

    George @ mid-episode discussion — Commentary on economic shift in vintage pinball repair market toward replacement vs. repair

  • “You need to have a Weebly board because you need to plug a chip into it. Nope. You don't. No, you actually can program a video?”

    Dave and George discussing custom ROM modifications @ Mata Hari software discussion — Technical clarification on ROM programming capabilities for modern restoration

  • “I got like $1,000 extra from this guy. Super nice guy. So when he calls, yes sir, I'll be right there.”

    Dave @ closing Connecticut customer story — Shows value of high-end customer relationships and repeat business potential

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DavepersonGeorgepersonJohn DaypersonBobpersonClivepersonQuenchpersonScottpersonGrantpersonDavid Marstonperson

Signals

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    restoration_signal: 1990s Williams games exhibit cabinet floor bowing caused by MDF moisture damage, a problem not seen in Bally machines. Dave has encountered this multiple times and considers it a known issue with the manufacturing era.

    high · Dave's direct observation: 'On these Williams games, the Rampers, I've seen this several times, maybe because they get wet or moisture or whatever. The MDF board in the bottom gets wet and it kind of bows out.'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Complex electrical diagnostics on vintage pinball machines require extended uninterrupted focus time; ambient noise and distractions from customers significantly increase troubleshooting duration and labor costs.

    high · Dave's frustration with loud racing game noise during repair work and discussion of need for quiet environment to 'get your thoughts together'

  • ?

    business_signal: Pinball restoration technicians can develop premium customer segments willing to pay significantly above quoted rates for quality work; repeat business and referrals from satisfied high-value customers is valuable.

    high · Bob's $1,000+ tip on restoration bill and request for recurring annual/bi-annual service; positive outcome attributed to 'good karma' philosophy alignment

  • ?

    product_concern: Uncovered power supply areas in classic pinball machines present electrical shock hazards. Bally games introduced plastic protective covers (circa 1981) in response to changing electrical codes, though later games used minimal cardstock solutions.

    high · Discussion of power supply cover component found in 1981 Bally games and comparison to modern games using only cardboard; regulation-driven design change

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Transcript

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0:00
🎵 Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George. His name is Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George.
0:36
Seems like forever. We've got a lot of ground to cover. It's been, what, like six weeks, seven weeks since we recorded? Time flies. Yeah, it does. We've got a lot to talk about in this show. We're going to start with the Tintastic Preview has become... I can't call it an annual event because they don't run the show every time at the same time of year, so we'll just call it an event.
1:04
Before we get started, I'd like to thank David Marston. Last month, he appeared on the show to talk about the Pintastic show. We're going to do our preview, but it's mostly going to be about the games that are in the free play area. If you want to hear all about the show, go back to our last episode, number 125,
1:28
and David Marston will fill you in on the particulars. If you don't have anything to comment on that, I'm going to open the floor to you and say, take it away, Dave. What's up, Doc?
1:45
What's up, Doc? Well, I'll tell you what's up, Doc. We've been traveling. We've been going these workations lately to bring us to Connecticut.
1:57
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Stuperson
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Williams Getawaygame
Phoenixgame
Bobby O'Power Playgame
Serpent Safari System 3game
Mata Harigame
Xenongame
Addams Familygame
Fish Talesgame
Centaurgame
Fathomgame
Eightball Deluxegame
Weebly boardproduct
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technology_signal: New Weebly aftermarket replacement boards are increasingly cost-competitive with professional board repair services, shifting market preference toward component replacement over repair. Professional repair still available but less economical for many failures.

high · George: 'It's cheaper to just go buy a new one' vs. professional repair. Dave confirms Weebly boards are 'reasonably priced' and he uses them 'all the time these days'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Modern ROM programming for classic games no longer requires Weebly boards with chip sockets; contemporary methods allow ROM burning and installation on games without dedicated ROM boards.

    medium · Dave and George's technical clarification about programming capabilities; unclear final resolution but indicates shift in programming methodology

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Vintage pinball electrical components (varistors and similar items) can appear physically identical while serving opposite electrical functions. Installing wrong component causes immediate short circuits. Visual inspection insufficient for identification.

    high · John Day's diagnosis that Dave installed wrong component: 'it looks like a barista, but it's not... one is supposed to conduct current all the time and the other one is supposed to be like a fuse. They're exactly the opposite.'

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: Electrical safety code changes between 1970s and 1990s progressively required better protection for exposed power supplies. Bally introduced plastic covers in 1981 in response to building/electrical code evolution.

    medium · Dave's discussion: 'back in the 70s versus go to the 90s, it's really different. The same thing with electrical code... 81 Valley started using that cover'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Geographic shortage of qualified pinball restoration technicians creates opportunities for specialists to travel for high-value restoration contracts; demand from collectors exceeds local supply.

    high · Connecticut Getaway owner: 'I've been looking for someone like you for years. I couldn't find anybody. I had to go look in the Massachusetts to find you because no one wanted to work on the game.'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Long-term archival of unlabeled parts from previous restoration/cannibalization projects (Dave's 'treasure hunt') yields unexpected valuable components like hard-to-find power supply covers; parts sourcing remains critical bottleneck.

    high · George mentions finding rare power supply cover through extensive box searches; parts catalog search yields no results despite component value ($15-20)

    • And down in Connecticut, there was a getaway down there, which is an early 1990s Williams game. And for this one here, I just knew it was going to be, you know, it was kind of far away. It's like almost two hours drive. It's like, well, let's get an Airbnb. Found a nice one at a farmhouse. At a farm, it's a farmhouse to stay in. And so, beautiful Airbnb.
    2:23
    And, you know, so I'm going to say, so I'm going to give you the experience of driving into this place. Because we've got to check in first and then go to the play, then go to the getaway and so forth. So, as we are driving in to the driveway of this place and get out of the car, and then we welcome to this sound here.
    2:49
    Like, what the hell? You jackass. I've never heard that for real. And then I look at it, I see the two donkeys out there in the field. It's like, wow, that is so cool. What a difference coming from a suburbia city and going like this. Like, okay, I feel like I'm home, you know. And met the nice lady that runs the place. and, you know, very accommodating, blueberry cake, fresh eggs from her hens in the refrigerator. She brought me out to where the chickens are. She says, hey, you want to grab some fresh eggs? Sure. So she opened the thing up. The things were still warm. I put them in my hand like these warm eggs, and one of the chickens started pecking me. She says, oh, just shoo them away. Shoo them away. She's not going to care. So I just grabbed them and, you know, next day made a little omelet. So that was cool, a really cool experience. So that was the start of our thing. Then we got away to the getaway. We drove down to the lady down there, and she said originally that the game had no power. I said, okay, I've had a couple of these older games, older being 90s and older, where the power switch has failed or broken off or bad context. I figured, okay, bad power switch, plus it needs like a day spa or a multi-day day spa because it hasn't worked in years.
    4:10
    So I come up to the game. I got pictures and it looked good in the pictures, but pictures don't tell the whole story. No, they do not. And definitely in this case, not so much broken rubbers, and that's the minimal part of it. I see the bottom of the cabinet bowing down, like falling out of it. Okay? It's like, okay, well, that's not good. So I spent a bunch of time. The floor of the cabinet? Yeah, the floor of the cabinet is like bowing down like it's ready to come out, like it's the Transformers, you know. I'm not familiar with that game, so I don't know what's attached to it. Like a classic Valley game? Yeah, like a classic Valley game. A typical bottom cabinet. On a Valley game, it wouldn't happen. Valley games never do that. But on these Williams games, the Rampers, I've seen this several times, maybe because they get wet or moisture or whatever. The MDF board in the bottom gets wet and it kind of bows out.
    5:05
    So it looks like how, plus on top of it, the start button was kind of not in its right position because it's kind of bowed out away from the start button. The start button was attached to inside of the cabinet wall, and the floor is bowed out. You can't even reach the start button anyway. So I was like, okay, that's part of the problem is that. So let me take care of that first. So I had to go get some, I asked if she had any wood for a brace, and then I had some glue, and I'm trying to glue it, and I'm trying to screw it in. So finally, doing all that, I finally got it reasonably back to where it's supposed to go. Not totally, I didn't want to go all the way back. I could not get it, I didn't have any clamp to get it all the way back. You weren't prepared for this. I wasn't. But I made do. I kind of MacGyvered it. You know, I MacGyvered it the best I could. And she didn't even complain about that part, but I needed it done. So then I got, and I said, okay, let's try, you know, turn the switch on. It's like, not dead, nothing. I said, okay, well, she's right about that. So I said, okay, maybe I'll just look and replace the power switch. So I go inside the power box inside the front right of the cabinet. I open it up with the game unplugged, of course. and look inside there and I see a blown barista, which is basically any time you get a power surge or a lightning strike or whatever, this is the first line of defense for your game or anything like this, especially a pinball machine. All these pinball machines have these. It's like a fuse. Any kind of huge spike coming through, it'll blow that first before it reaches the rest of the game. now I found out later from John Day it works most of the time there's still a couple you know microseconds, milliseconds whatever wearing it does we talked about this in a telephone call we had last week but yes it's it is not foolproof and even with you know I have a whole house system even with that they say if you have delicate electronics put a strip connected to the device just as security. Believe it or not. It makes sense.
    7:11
    So on... Okay, so I'll ask the question. Do you have any of your machines hooked up to one? No. Me either. No. I don't really have any... I've never had problems with lightning strikes or any power surges around here. Well, I did, and I'm not going to bore everybody with it, but I did when I was up in Vermont. Very unsettling when you're not at your home and have no idea what's going on.
    7:37
    Yeah, you're away from home and you're a stranger in a strange land kind of thing. So I look inside the box. I found the burned out thing. It's like, okay, all right, all right. And I see a fuse that's also blown. There's a main fuse as well that's blown. So I put the new fuse in. I grabbed from my tool kit what I thought was a varistor. It looks the same. And I put it in, turn it on, boom. Immediately blew the fuse. Like, what the frick is this? What is going on? There's nothing here.
    8:12
    So then I say, okay, thinking about it, thinking about it. It's like, you know, I'm going to ring, ring my phoneer friend, John Day, Mr. EE. What am I doing wrong here, John? And he seems pretty simple. and he said, oh, let me take a picture of that. Oh, that there looks like a barista, but it's not. It's something else. It is a, I forget the name he said, but it goes in a different section of the game. There's two things that are just like that and one is supposed to conduct current all the time and the other one is supposed to be like a fuse. They're exactly the opposite. So he said it makes total sense that when you put that in, you've greatly created a short. You've created a short with using the thing you use. So take that out. So I took it out. I didn't have a wrist. I knew of a wrist around me. All I had was this other thing, which is not what I needed. So I took it out, put a fuse in. Bang. At least now I had some power. I had power. The display was all messed up. The game wasn't. It was on but not working. So, okay, now what else is wrong? So go to the driver board. Did some stuff on that. Put that back in. Still not happy. the MPU board was all battery rot got rid of that, put a new MPU in there and then all in all I've come to find out that this power surge it took out, you know, the MPU was taken anyway by a battery problem. The driver board was taken something on that that wasn't happy. So I put a new driver board in there which is expensive. I put also a new what's it called, a flipper I want to call it a flip-tronic board. Flip-tronic board was messed up too. Put one of those in there. So I need three boards I put in the game. But now you're adding up pricey for that. And once I got all that in there, and some new connectors, now she was coming up, and now it's saying the getaway, and so now we're happy. But now I had to go, that was like day one.
    10:12
    And so I had to go back for day two, the next day, and do the regular day spotting. I think No one always spent, I don't know, 10 or 11 hours total on this game.
    10:24
    Went over the budget I told her it was going to be, but she was okay with it. Well, you put new boards in it. How much for the boards? A lot. It's got to be hundreds of dollars. Yeah, I mean, the driver board is like $600, and the MPU is a couple hundred bucks. And that's not fixable? It is fixable, but not by me. Not for that. And it costs money, too. Yeah, it costs money, too. So, basically, I did a little swapping. I basically put one of my rebuilt ones in there, and I took hers, and basically now I have like these three driver boards from other things I've had. I can rebuild boards pretty well for the most part. But when it gets into weird stuff and I'm going to spend all my time troubleshooting. You don't do it every day. I don't do it every day. Leave it to the professionals. So, you know, Clive at CoinUp called her and I called him. Oh, yeah, send them down. You know, usually he's like a year behind. I say, no, I can take care of it right away. So I sent him all three boards, three driver boards that I've had, and he's going to take care of those for me. Nice guy.
    11:16
    So that was that. So then I went through, did the whole days, found the game, or started to. Then she came down, and I said, you said it had no power, but there's another story going on here. Why is this blowing? What happened over here? Oh, yeah.
    11:32
    Yeah. Well, a couple years ago, a couple years, like five years ago, that's how long this thing's been sitting. But she said, I've been looking for someone like you for years. I couldn't find anybody. I had to go look in the Massachusetts to find you because no one wanted to work on the game. I got one guy that works on a jukebox, one guy on a cigarette machine, but no one had expertise. So that's why I rang up you, and that's why I'm paying you the big bucks. I said, okay. So she said a truck came by, an 18-wheeler came by down her road, and it took out, it pulled all the electrical things out of everybody's houses and went down the street. So it knocked down all the poles and pulled all the lines on the houses? Well, it didn't knock down the poles. Oh, whatever. But it did pull all the lines on the houses. Okay. So that wasn't the biggest problem. But the biggest problem is when the electric company came back in to put things back together again, all these houses, if you weren't ready for it, got 220 volts coming at them for a brief second. Oh, that's right. You were telling me that they miswired the... Yeah, 220. And so that's why, oh, yeah, it blew out. Now, she didn't really know what it was really doing. John Day said this is what happened. So I figured only one leg of the circuitry was on, and it needs to be two to make the 110 or 115 or whatever. But he said that it got 220 in that house. She goes, oh, that makes sense because it took out my refrigerator, dishwasher, computer. It didn't have anything with a chip or electronics in it. It took it out. So I said, well, it's too bad that you didn't know that about your pinball machine because you got insurance for the other things. You could have got an insurance claim for this pinball machine too. It took that out too. You could have got a claim on it. so might not have been covered under a homeowner's policy maybe you could sue the electric company for screwing up right, right, exactly you know George, you know so, okay well that makes total sense, I see why now but this game is no exception they took out a bunch of stuff so you know, the cost of doing this call just went up but I am going to I'm going to reduce my hourly rate a little bit because it's going to be in the stratosphere so I'm going to eat some of the cost with you but it's still going to be more than what I quoted so she was fine with that and they were very happy when we first got in there working on the game it was first of all the house smelled like smoke like a lot of cigarette smoke Maureen wasn't happy with that I kind of dealt with it I don't know where she was smoking but I couldn't see her smoking but the whole house smelled acrid like smoke.
    14:10
    Her son that was there, he's like about, I don't know, 35 or 40. We come in, and he's playing this video game in the game room, and it's one of these live-action drive-your-car kind of thing, and he's racing other people, and it's really loud. So I'm trying to concentrate on fixing this game. The weird problem is I had a loud racing game while I'm trying to do it. Finally, he stopped up for an hour, thank God. But I find a lot of these times, I'll tell you another story later on, where sometimes I don't get peace and quiet. You know, you're trying to solve a problem. You need peace and quiet to get your thoughts together. A lot of times, I have all this noise and stuff going on. We're overstimulated. Yeah. Radio, television. Yeah. Internet, whatever it is. Loud birds. You just need to shut it all off. Yeah, but you can't. But you're in a customer's house. how can you shut it off? Well, you could be polite and say, I could use a little... Quiet. I need to think. No kidding. I mean, you're dying. There's lots of wires. And there's lots of wires, and it's taking me more time than it's supposed to take, so I've got to really concentrate and think about things, so I could go a lot quicker if this thing was quiet. But he stopped after a while and was fine. So he came up after a couple days of working on it, and he says, Oh, wow, the light's working the game. and he's playing the game, it's like, there's a lot more than that working on the game. The flipper's actually working. The game actually plays correctly now, and it's, you know, not dead. So they were all happy. So that was that. That was like Connecticut State won. And at the same time, this happens all the time when I'm away on a workcation, I get a call from another guy in Connecticut. It says, hey, your friend Stu recommended me to you, and because he doesn't work on the newer games, but I get a bunch of newer games I want to get worked on. Where are you? Oh, I'm in Connecticut near Harvard. It's like I'm right nearby there right now, but I'm already on call. I'm already booked out, and, you know, we can do it. So I was talking for a while. He's like our age. He loved pinball as a kid. He's got three games. He's got a Phoenix.
    16:25
    That's a Williams Phoenix, 78, 79. he had a Bobby O'Power play and he had a Serpent Safari System 3 which I wasn't that keen on working on that but the good thing about the System 3's is they're very robust, they're pretty reliable so I set up a time with him and I was looking in my schedule I want to go back to this farmhouse again because he's right nearby the farmhouse and it's a great place to stay and it's cheap and why not but they're all booked out I was going to get them about a month or two from now, all booked out This place is booked. Except for the week after we're here, it's still available. I said, okay, we're going to come back next week, same farmhouse, same channel, that time, and come out to you. So we did that. We got back with the alfalfa the donkey and Wally the donkey. We got to see them again for a three-night stay instead of a two-night stay.
    17:17
    And we got to see my friend Bob down in Connecticut. And nice house, nice area. This other house for the getaway was a very modest house. no great shakes, one machine doesn't work. This guy that three car garage, stone driveways, nice area of town, nice place. When I first talked to him he said, I shouldn't tell you this but the price is no object. I said, okay, that's good to know. I told him typically what it's going to cost to day spot three games is going to be per game is going to be this, this, this. He goes, oh yeah, no problem. I can even go hire if you need to. It's like, great. My kind of customer. You're willing to, you want good work done, you're willing to pay for good work. Open wallet is always good. Perfect. So I won't hold back. I'll do what needs to be done. Great. So, uh, go there, met him, nice guy, working on his games, working on Bobby or Power Play, and he told me he got it from this guy in Connecticut who sort of restored games, kind of. Uh, a little bit of a pair of pliers and a blowtorch situation. But, you know, he got it done. I told the guy, well, He did some good work and some other not-so-good work. So, did that one first. And the games were, like, in a basement, a concrete floor basement. And next to that area in the basement, he had a nice game room all refinished in wood floor with a pool table, a foosball table, all this other stuff. And I said, why are these games here in this crappy area? I said, can we move? Oh, yeah, we can move. I picked out spots for him. I was like, great. And I bought some sliders with me that slide on felt. He said, oh, great. So he was all psyched. We're moving the games into the good area. Maureen was happy because the feet were killing on top of the concrete.
    19:00
    And moved him in there, worked on him. And he said, hey, you know, I want to take you guys out to dinner tonight. It's like, oh, it sounds good. But then I had to turn him down. It's like, well, my niece from Arizona is coming in. I haven't seen her in a while. and she happens to be coming into Hartford to do a seminar. And she was saying for a couple of days, I really want to go out to eat with her and hang out with her. So we're going to pass on your generous offer for dinner. So we did that, had a great time with our niece that night for dinner, went back to Bob again the next day, worked on Surf and Safari. And I think we were there. Then we came back the next day. We did a third day there. But the second day, he said, well, you know what, I'm at least going to buy you lunch. You know, here's a nice place. and my wife will go out and get it for us and just pick whatever you want. So he's waiting for us and I'm picking something out. Maureen's like, Kevin, just pick something. He's waiting for you to make a decision.
    19:58
    So she did. And it was really great. We got to go upstairs with him in a nice kitchen, have lunch with him and chill out and talk about my business and talk about what he did for work. I guess he's retired. He had a business and he got bought out. and yeah, he's a very successful guy, nice guy too and he said, I believe in karma, all about karma and I do right by people and they do right by me and I said, yeah, I work the same way so at the end of it, I basically told him what the bill was and it was a big bill and he said, oh, I was expecting to spend a couple thousand more than that He had some zeros? Oh, he rounded up, he added 500 bucks on top of the whole bill Oh, my God. Good for you. And on top of that, he said, I want you to come back, you know, at least once a year or maybe twice a year and clean them again, this and that. I want to see you guys again and come back and do more work for me. And I said, yeah, that's great because I didn't get to spend enough time on the, what's it called, Phoenix. I spent a little time on that, and I got it working decently, but I could definitely do more work on that game. He said, oh, you definitely come back sometime. And by the way, do you like wine? I go, yeah, I like red wine, Cabernet. come over here. He had this huge collection of wine. He loved wine. All this high-end stuff. And he says, I'll pick some bottles out for you. So he picked out like six bottles of wine. Wow, what a guy. And later on, he put them in a box for us and sent us off on our way. We got money. We got paid well. A bottle of wine. Nice rapport with the guy. Later on, I said, well, let me see what this wine is worth. I'm used to, when I get a bottle of wine, I'm used to spending, I don't know, $8, maybe $15 if I'm going to spur $15, but you know, $8 gets it done. It tastes good. It's fine. Even the organic stuff is $8. They're not an onophile. I get it. No. I'm the same way.
    21:58
    I look at the bottle of wine. First bottle, $150. No. Yeah. Second bottle, $80. Third bottle, $75. They're all worth between $75 and $150 a bottle. I got like $500 worth of wine as well. I got like $1,000 extra from this guy. Super nice guy. So when he calls, yes sir, I'll be right there. I was going to say, how do you want me to jump to that?
    22:23
    That's a great customer. Oh yeah, good customer. Really good customer. Do you want some more stories? No, I want you to answer a question for me. Okay, sure. First question is you sent me that thing from Quench people who are classic Valley people know who this person is he's on Pinside, he's got some software that amends Mata Hari I get the double, the two targets going down and scoring both targets, I get that piece but what does it do for gameplay? Oh there's a lot of stuff on it. I mean, I briefly looked at all the things. It's a huge list of stuff. I know. Well, that's why I'm asking you. I looked at the list and I'm like, this is a little too much. If I had it, I'd go through it. But you know, if I had the chip on a game, it would be a lot easier to do.
    23:23
    Let me see. Well, I can't do it, first of all. Let's qualify it. You need to have a Weebly board because you need to plug a chip into it. Nope. You don't. No, you actually can program a video? Yep.
    23:40
    Let me think here. Okay, if you're not prepared, then you can talk about it. Okay. Let's see. Yeah, I'm not prepared to talk about it, but it does a lot of cool stuff. I mean, it basically takes what Scott did, and I talked with Quench for a while. He said that he had a lot more like that, that he's done, but he's such a perfectionist that they're not ready to release yet, but the Mata Hari is. Do you have the code yet? I did. I downloaded the code, but I did not install it yet. But I downloaded it. You don't even have the game set up. I don't. I don't. I haven't had time. But I want to... We'll table that. I'll put that on the future programming, and we'll talk about it. How's that? Yeah, it sounds good. It makes me want to go and set them out and hurry up and burn this ROM. In fact, I'm out of Weebly boards right now, so I say, well, I'll go back to my old school Bally boards, which work fine. I have a crap load of those that are in nice shape, but the Weebly's so reasonably priced that I've just been using that all the time these days. Well, that seems to be what everybody does now. Instead of repairing boards, it's cheaper to just go buy a new one, believe it or not. Well, I will say, though, that the board repair people are still very busy. People are still repairing this stuff. Well, it's all stuff that you can't buy. I mean, we got an email this morning from our friend Grant, who was having sound problems with a Xenon. And I asked the question, you probably didn't see it, can you buy those sound boards? My guess is no. Well, you can buy, you actually can. You can buy a Squawking Talk these days. They do sell them.
    25:21
    Is that a Squawking Talk? No, it's like the first generation right before Squawking Talk. But I think some Xenons were made with a Squawking Talk. the later generations, the later... So you can use the Squawk and Talk board? I believe you can. I haven't done it. Okay, but my point is, you can't buy the two boards with the harness all, you know... No. In a box, ready to go. No. Like an E-Buddy or, you know, a solenoid driver board, et cetera, et cetera. I don't think so, because Vino was the only one that used that one. I think that was their, you know, their first talker. Right. I think so. That was the deal there. Yeah, with that one. So I would guess that that's where a lot of it goes. Bless you. Thank you.
    26:03
    Okay, I sent you something yesterday. It drove me freaking nuts. That power supply cover. Oh, yeah. Okay, so I started looking, because now I knew what it was. I started looking inside the coin door. Yeah.
    26:23
    Why did they make that? what games is it in? Because I know I have a game with it. I go through all my games. I know I have one game with it. Is there some ruling somewhere where the powers that be said, oh, you can't have that uncovered. You get an electrical shock. Yeah, well, it's true.
    26:43
    Because if you look at, and we'll talk about this in a little bit, the new game I got, all I have is a piece of cardboard next to it. Like cardstock to prevent and go in to get the coin box? Right. You don't put your hand over there? Right, right. What kind of crappy solution is that? Well, it's like, you know, back in the day when it's like building codes. They changed the building codes all these years. If you go back to the 70s versus go to the 90s, it's really different. The same thing with electrical code. So back then, the 70s, a little piece of cardboard over that, call it done. Right, but what game actually used that? Classic? Yeah. 81 Bally's. 81 Valley started using that cover. So I go and look at my Centaur? Yep. Centaur, Fathom, Eightball Deluxe.
    27:31
    I'm going to have to go look. It's one game I didn't open up. Okay. Thanks for that. Mm-hmm. That's a white, kind of white clear, round plastic cover. Right. Right. Does it have any value?
    27:45
    Uh, maybe. People want official games, or original games? Yeah, they want, I think it would, because if you want official nice clean thing that's missing? I think it has some value. I'm thinking $15, $20. That's what I was thinking. Okay, because if you go out and try to find that part in a catalog online using multiple phrases... Can't find it. Zip. Zero. Zilch. Yep. How'd you get it?
    28:15
    Again, George's... We'll talk about this in the upcoming. George's treasure hunt. I've been going through boxes. I've got a list of stuff that I found. It's crazy. When you have stuff from 20 years ago and you start going through boxes that are unlabeled, it's like, oh, wow! I got one of those? And then you try to remember, where did it come from? Like, I don't remember. Because I butchered so many games back in the day. Yeah, you were going to Junkie Jeff constantly, it sounds like. Everybody left. We've had this conversation so many times. People laughed when I filled up the pickup truck I mean and now it paying off I mean I finding stuff with the new game that I bought Boy I have all the parts It amazing Nice Oh, it's cold. We're going to keep teasing that for a little bit. So I have a couple of questions for you. All right. You can tell us more stories. Sure. You have an Addams Family I've seen online, and recently I saw a picture of, or did I see a picture? We talked about it. A white water.
    29:20
    Not a white water. It's close. It's a water-themed pin. What was it? Oh, fishing game. Fish Tales. Okay. So, go ahead.
    29:34
    With what? Those games? Well, if you want to talk about them, unless you've got something else you want to talk about. Sure, I'll talk about them. I've got some other stories too. So, the Addams Family, I got that oh, probably about six months to a year ago from a customer. So I finally got to dig into it. This was a rusty scupper. It was from, he was trying to get it out of his sister's house up in Maine for years. She wasn't playing it. It was stored improperly. It was in a, I don't know, unheated garage or something. It was in a chicken coop in the backyard. Yeah, something like that. So finally he went up there and said, hey, I want to take this game. I'm going to restore it and make it nice. So, and that was a couple, he reached out to me several, maybe four or five years ago. And finally got back to me, and I gave him, so I gave him a price back then. It's like, yeah, the prices have changed. We're a little more nowadays for what we do. So, this is the new pricing. I got to set anchor pricing for what we have now. So, I did that, told him he's cool with that. And when I got the game in, I didn't really see it all until I just unveiled it about a month or two ago. after having it here for like four or five months. And it's like, wow, all the bolts on the outside are rusty.
    30:51
    So it's like, okay, I've got to take all those off, put them in evaporust, and I've got to paint them, and the coin door is kind of crappy. I've got to take that off and clean that and repaint that. So all of a sudden, they're external stuff to make the game. I've got to stop you for a sec. I've been using evaporust. What do you put your legs in to decontaminate them? Yeah. You have a pipe with, like, a cap on it? Yes, yes. Okay, I don't have a spare pipe, but I didn't feel like going out. Well, you're a plumber. You're a plumber's child. Yeah, when I moved, I left most of that crap for the last homeowner. So I don't have a selection of piping and other stuff. Well, I don't have either. I did have, and actually it was on loan, a long-term loan, mind you, from Joel. Joel and John made one years ago, and they used it for, you know, for Joel's game. He had a four-square and rusty legs and used it for that, and John used it. And then I said, oh, can I borrow that? So I borrowed it long-term. I borrowed it for years.
    31:51
    Then I was going to ask for it back. Well, no, then someone else wanted to borrow it. I think his friend Mike Sandler wanted to borrow it, so I let him borrow it, and he used it a bunch, and I got it back again. So it's been going around. And after a while, Vaporust, you put so much crap in there, it gets used up. It gets black and dirty. It's not effective. You've got to throw that out and put more stuff in there. I have a fresh thing. I tried the paper towel thing. No, no good. Not good. No. On top of which. I didn't have a vessel to put it in, though. I had this, like, long trough, but it wouldn't fit in all the way. It only had half a gallon of stuff. I didn't want to go out and spend $30 on another bottle, you know. Right now, I'm thinking of just throwing, you know, selling the legs. Well, on top of which, you know, Evaporist works best when it's warm or hot. It works, like, ten times faster. Oh, so you put it out in the sun on a hot day? Well, yeah, the sun or what I do, when I'm doing small stuff, I take a glass jar, I put it in there, I put it in the microwave for like a minute, you know, and then put it in the microwave for like a minute and get it warm, and then I put the stuff in there, and about maybe in a couple hours, it's good, versus if it was cold, it's going to take a day or two. So it speeds up the process.
    33:09
    Stu told me about that. It's better when it's warm. In fact, he does it with that. He does it with a heated ultrasonic. He has an ultrasonic. Do you have one of those? I do have one of those, but I need another one. But I have a small one for like I use for simple green. I don't have one. Oh, you need one. Yeah, $150, I need one. No, Harbor Freight. Harbor Freight has it cheap. I think like $70. Chinese Freight? Okay. Yeah, it works well. Now, you could get – so he started out with the Chinese one, but he uses it so much, He bought the super-duper all-stainless steel one. It looks like you're going to make some fries. He bought that one. That's the one I was looking at. Yeah, so I probably need to get that one down the road since, you know, I do do this as a profession. I should get a professional stuff, you know. But the Chinese one's been working well for me, but I need to upgrade at some point.
    33:58
    So that works well with the warm stuff. So I did all that with the game. Then I said that it had no topper, so I bought a topper for it. I put the stickers on it. I put, you know, purple. You did a nice job with the topper. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I put purple and blue LED lighting in there so it looks like it's thunderclouding when it's going off. It's really cool. I put on the thing box, I put red LED strips in there so it makes the box glow red. Clean the playfield up. One magnet, the third magnet, the one on the left, always burns out in this game, and I found out why. This game is no exception. It was burned out, but someone unhooked it, thank God, before it was stopped. It usually burns the playfield, puts a big black singe mark on the playfield, and people actually put an artwork cover over it. This game didn't need that because it didn't burn through like that. It stopped it.
    34:48
    What happens is, so I had to replace the magnet, and then I found out that it took out the driver transistor, the drives, and it took that out, so I had to replace that. And then I looked online and said, why do these keep burning out? Why is it always this magnet and not the other magnets? In fact, people actually sell a whole fuse kit for like $30 that you hook and wire it in. It looks like spaghetti, and it protects all the magnets individually. So if they start to be on all the time and overheat, it'll take it out. I made my own fuse thing. I put a three-block fuse in myself. I wired it in like that and put it in. and then someone said, well, the really reason why I'm doing that is the driver board has a flyback diode on it that should not be for a magnet for some reason. It makes it lock on. So cut that diode, make a note on the board that it's for Addams Family only because other games need the diode. So I cut the diode out, and now in the future this game will not burn out. It won't blow a fuse, and it won't burn out its magnet anymore. So basically when it hits that diode, it locks the magnet on, and the magnet overheats and fries whatever above it. Yeah. It's like a frying pan. And it's only that. The other two magnets, it doesn't get affected for some reason. That one always does. So this is the fix for it. So I did that. I did exactly what the people said to do. I did that. Clean and play feel, new silicone rubber everywhere, our usual stuff. I did buy this frickin' Subwoofer for these. all these 1992 Williams Ramp games, from 1992 Fishtails, Addams Family and The Getaway, I worked on all these 1992 games recently, all in a row they all have a blown out cabinet speaker, it rots out whatever they got, I think they got it from Mexico it says Mexico on it, so whatever they did back then, it rots out the surround and the speaker is a piece of crap, so I throw all those out, I brought from Parks Express, I brought a crap load of these speakers that fit right in there. It worked perfectly. I throw it in there. Fishtail has one.
    36:49
    Getaway has one now. Let's go to Adam's family. And then on top of that, what else did it need? It needed a bunch of other stuff, too. Well, whatever you did, it looks nice.
    37:02
    You can go out to your website and take a look. Have you done a video yet? Not yet. I'm about to. I haven't had a chance to, but that's next. In fact, I reached this guy. The owner was kind of checking back in with me, you know, months ago, like, hey, how's it going? It's like, oh, I haven't started yet, haven't started yet. Finally, I reached out to him. Hey, I started it. I finally started it, and here's how it is so far. And I haven't heard from him. I figured, I said, okay, great. So now I'm done. You have the game. I do have the game. You have the game. I do. But it's like, I hope he gets back to me because I don't want to, I mean, I don't mind playing it for a while, but, you know, I'm going to get back to him. I'm going to say, you know, here's the game. Here's the pictures. Here's the video of it. Here's the bill, most importantly.
    37:45
    Like I said, you have the game. If he's missing an action. Yeah, if he's missing an action, I wouldn't sell it right away. I'd give him a lot of time to get back to me. But eventually, it's like, okay.
    38:00
    Ten-plus grand sitting there. Yeah, I don't know how long that's going to be. But I know if you go to an auto mechanic or even Chris Hutchins, you go on his website, he has a certain amount of time that you have to pick the game up. 30 days, 60 days, 30 days. Yeah, something like that. Right, right. So, there you go.
    38:24
    And we're back. I'm going to start this segment off. I teased it earlier. I actually went and bought a new game. Well, a new old game. How many ramps, George?
    38:38
    Zero. aww George how many chimes? four I bought a Bally Blackjack SS and you know who I bought it from I do and our audience knows who I bought it from but I'll be very very I won't say a lot you know him as Scott from Slam Tilt Podcast That's where he gets a lot of pub, I guess.
    39:13
    He's somebody who's reworked a lot of games, right? You probably know better than I do. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's done a lot of games. He's reworked all kinds of Valley games. Lots of groundbreaking work he's done, you know, deciphering the code from late 70s and early 80s. And, I don't know, smart dude.
    39:35
    So I bought a game from him. He lives in Pennsylvania. he actually found me I put a post out on Pinside for the Pinfest show in Allentown and he replied and said I've got one we went back and forth for a couple of days and I drove up to Pennsylvania with Janice and picked the game up and I've been working on it for the last two weeks it's needed a lot of work I asked you about the legs he gave me a pair or a set of chrome legs they look like bally legs, but they're chrome. So I don't know what they came off of. But let's just put it this way. The game didn't have the best of parts in it. How's that? I redid the flippers. I redid the chime box. I, you know, the game was completely torn apart. I mean, he didn't sell it as restored. No, he didn't. A working game. How do you sell it? As a working game or a player's game? I knew him by, I saw the pictures, and, you know, you mentioned earlier, pictures don't always tell the story. They were pretty close. I knew what I was getting.
    40:46
    Well, I'm trying to figure out how to list things, too. Like, I'm going to, I've got a fish tails that I'm just about done with. And I've done most of the work on it, but it's not like a restore game, but it's kind of a. People will believe you because you're somebody who's visible in the hobby. How's that?
    41:04
    But I'm saying. That's what I said with him. I didn't really, you know, I didn't really negotiate and go crazy on him. You know, the only thing I would say is you probably could have put a better set of legs on it.
    41:19
    But how did he sell it? Did he sell it as like a work? He sold it as a project game. Okay. He never said the word project. But, you know, I looked at it and said, oh, you know, the play field looks good. I get the play field. You know, it's got balls. So he sold it. He sold it as a working game. That's it. Well, I haven't plugged it in yet, so I don't know that. He did sell it that way. Well, when you said, okay, Scott, I like the game, and Scott said, hey, I have a blank blackjack. He sent me the most detailed pictures you could send. Okay. So I don't have any beef with it. I like the game.
    41:55
    But when people list a game, they list it as their player's game, a restored game, shop game. He said more of a player's game, I guess. Okay. But it's a good, solid game. Yeah, yeah, okay. Here's the kicker, though, and I told you this in our conversation last week. My friend Jack, you guys have heard me talk about him. He's my friend in Jersey. I call him the original Jersey Jack because he was called that as a kid.
    42:19
    He's got a fully populated, nice play field. And he said, well, what's yours like? I said, it's pretty good. It's got a wear mark up by the out hole, which you would expect. but other than that it's pretty good it's not a bad game but he said hey you can have the playfield if you want it nice so I'm pretty happy with it it's been a lot of work it's got a little bit of a funk to it but I call it warehouse funk I think I got rid of it we'll see when we plug it in hopefully this weekend I'm so glad I got the EM version because I don't like that artwork at all, that kind of Dayglo paint. But I'm a child of the 70s, and take it one step further. I was cleaning out boxes of non-pinball stuff. I come across these Dayglo stickers, like Flower Power stickers, with my name on it. Oh, put that in the game. I remember my grandmother buying, you know, I remember I used to go into the dime store, and they'd have a big rack, and they'd have names on everything, whether it was a license plate or stickers or whatever. Yeah, sure. So I have George stickers from probably the 60s. I'm guessing that's how old those things are, and they still work. It's pretty funny. So I like the artwork.
    43:42
    It's a matter of taste. I get it. But I'm looking forward to the game. So to bring it full around, he has the tournament bronze, as he was calling them. So I have some special software in this thing. Oh, nice. That's great. So the big piece of it is, if you're familiar with this game, it's beating the dealer. Yeah. And there's five lights for you and the dealer. Right. The cool thing that he did was, if you beat the dealer, you get reset back to 17.
    44:15
    So you can't keep raping the game. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. I think that's a really good mod. I don't know what else. There's a list of things, but without the game plugged in, I'm sitting there reading it, and I'm like, okay, without the game on, I've got to push some switches and make sure I understand what the hell is going on here. Right. But overall, try and box again. Full replacement. Grommets, the escutcheons, you know, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. Okay, I've got a question for you. When you get rid of ball swirls, do you use a Mr. Clean with water or with alcohol or with nothing? No, neither of those two. Water, no good. Water is not good for a play field. No.
    45:06
    Alcohol, no good either. It creates a big white haze, crappy. So what I use, and I don't spray the play field directly, you take the Mr. Clean pad. I usually tear them in half, and I spray a little bit on that of Crazy Clean. So Crazy Clean on the pad. What is Crazy Clean? Crazy Clean is my spray away. It's for people to make that really good blue cap window cleaner, ammonia free. Okay, not familiar with it. Home Depot has it. Home Depot has the spray away window cleaner, which is great. The ammonia free one works great on, if you have the high definition glass. Yeah, the Invisiglass. Yeah, it has that. Speaking of which, I found out, there's a little side thing here, that there is no more eyeglass. Ivan Glass. That was an experiment and not happening anymore. I think people must have complained about it or something. People had some bad mojo. Well, he's selling Glass at the show. Not eyeglass.
    45:58
    No, but he's selling, hopefully he's going to be selling Bally wide-body classic glass. It is wide-body, but I don't know what. It's wide-body, but I'm not sure if it's going to be the Bally stuff or what. Well, I asked. Okay, what did you say? I wanted to order it. He said, you know, I'm going to do a blast out on the pin side thread. He did. He did recently. I saw it. I saw a blast on the pin side. There's nothing out there right now. Not on the glass. He announced that he was doing it, but he's not taking orders yet. I want to give him an order and say, I want this glass if you're selling it. And if he comes back to me, I'm not selling it, then I know I'm not going to get it. I think if you go on the website right now, I'm pretty sure it's on there. You can order it. I'm pretty sure I saw that. I've been watching and I haven't seen it. That's like last night. I think it was out there. Okay.
    46:51
    I want to come back to my game. The one thing I will praise, pinball life. If you want to buy new legs and you don't want to go through all the crap that we just talked about with Evaporust and everything else, $70 gets you a brand new set of legs and they're nice. It used to be cheaper than that.
    47:10
    So is everything. A few dollars, I mean. Yeah. when you get done doing all the work it's just cheaper to go buy them that brings me back to the leg de-ruster tube thing that it was created by Joel and John and moved around blah blah blah and I had it for years and I used it for years until one day and it's not really sturdy it's built like a rocket with no little stands on the bottom so you've got to put it in the right spot against the corner of a wall yeah I mean it'll stand by itself but be prepared because if you touch it, it's going to... So what does it spill on? Well, it's secured. It's secured. It has a top. It's secured. It's not going to spill up. But if it falls over, it cracks in half and explodes and it goes everywhere. So this thing got destroyed. And it went over the rug in my basement with the other games. It got all this crapping. Yeah, the crap. It stunk. With the dirty... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rug was a throw. Oh, so I basically went at it with my whole night of shampoo, rug, and all kind of stuff, and vacuuming it out of there. And now, at first it smelled, now it's okay. You know, it's fine now. But it's like, oh, I'm going to get this chemical smell. I hate smells. I hate smells and noises, you know, both lousy. So I got rid of that, but now I need to build one. I don't have one anymore, you know, so I got to, you know, set time aside to make that project happen. I got to figure that out. It's not hard to build. I just didn't. By the time it's all said and done, to go buy the evaporesce, to build the thing, to do it, and then paint it, I said, you know what? For $70, done. Shrink-wrapped, delivered, done. Actually, I got a five-gallon pail of evaporesce I bought. Right. So I get all of them. Hey, for you, it's probably better. For me, yeah. I mean, I use it in so many small parts, small rusty parts I'll put in there. Well, let's talk about that. So let's talk about Coindor, uh, uh, Coindor, what's the, not the button. Yeah, the Coindor, uh. Stark button? The, uh, Coindor return. No, not the Stark button. The return. Yeah, yeah.
    49:23
    Polishes nice on the mushroom head, the bottom that's inside the game, but the piece that sticks out on every one I have is just, like, rusted, and I don't know what it does. I tried polishing that thing, and my fingers bleed. I get the fix for that. Okay, go ahead. I have a grinder that's a buffer. Right, I don't have one of those. You need one of those. You'll love it. Yeah, well, now that second piece of equipment we've talked about today. Right.
    49:54
    It's fantastic. I take that. I do need one. I put that piece you're talking about, the coin return thing, in a drill chuck. I put the drills on reverse. I have the buffer on forward so it's going forward about 3000 RPM I'm going backward about 2000 I'm going to have a 5000 RPM of pure buffing magic with some green rouge on it oh yeah you can see yourself in it when you're done it's great I need one of those and I polish the rods on the shooter rods do you do the coin doors that way I have It's tougher to do. You can't really hit the whole thing. I have done the past, but it's a pain in the ass. I think I'm going to take mine apart and put a new skin on it. I watched the video, or not the video, the pictures. It's out on Pinside. Very well done. It's not that hard. It's more of you need to organize the parts on a table and not touch it. So you can put it back together the same way. Yeah, it's a puzzle. The hardest thing is putting that corner turn flap back in so it doesn't move. I don't have many games with that, and we talked about this again on our football last week. Pinball and metal. Cliffy sells them. Okay, I bought a crap load of those. I bought a stack of all his stuff. But if you're buying from Cliffy, you're waiting a while. Right. Like forever. Forever. I don't know who's faster, BG Resto or Cliffy.
    51:21
    It's a race to the bottom. Before I forget, I want to ask you if you know this. you know who Anthony Cunha is, do you not? yeah, oh yeah, I know him, yep are you aware say it again? Opie and Anthony so for those of you who used to listen to that, are you aware that he now has a show on the radio?
    51:45
    I know he had his own show for a long time called the Pit he's on regular AM radio out of New York on Sunday nights now for two hours oh wow, I did not know about that one He had his own show. W-A-B-C. Okay. W-A-B-C. Wow. So is it good? You're not from New York. No. I grew up on that station. Okay. Now it's an all-talk station. But he's got two hours. He's pretty, he is actually pretty good. He's pretty funny. He does really good, you know, voices and so forth. And I like him the most. He's just getting started. He's only been on two weeks. No, but he's been doing his own show forever. by himself. He's only been on this show for two weeks. He got banned. He's been off the radio for a while. But he's had his own show online for like six years. Well, somebody must have given him some money to come on AM Radio. It's called the Open Anthony, it's called Anthony Compound, where he would broadcast from his home, and he had different comedians on, and he's kind of a made man kind of thing, because he had on the usual shills like Neil Shill Tyson there, that goofball, and some other idiots he had on too, which I don't care for. So he had all these popular people on, and then, I don't know what happened to his show, but maybe he's because he was getting paid like Patreon. He's getting paid per view. People actually subscribe to him. That's how he's making his money. And so, I don't know, maybe he's looking for more broader audience and kind of going I didn't even think A.M. Radio was still even around. I thought A.M. Radio was gone. I thought it was just FM and podcasting. It's still there, my friend. It's still there. So his audience, I mean, what are they, 90 years old and are they going home? It's only two weeks. I don't know. It's only two weeks old. I put it on. I listen to it if I'm going to bed. You know. I mean, if you're going to get. I'll listen to a podcast. I haven't listened to a whole show. You're not going to get the young market. The young market isn't an AM radio. You're going to get like us or older. Oh, no, but you can do it. You don't need to have AM radio. It's all online. Okay, so you've got an online presentation. No, no, no, that's the way you see it. And they archive everything. If you've missed the show, you know, you can't listen to it on Sunday night. Okay.
    54:04
    No, no, no, no. That's the new world. But he has to reserve himself. He probably can't go as crazy with some hijinks and swear, and he's got to kind of dial that stuff back. No, he definitely sometimes says, I can't go there. Right, right, exactly. He does have a muffler. Right, he has to. If you go on mainstream, you get the muffler. Yep. I love it. I got something that came through while we were waiting for that stupid Zoom thing to populate.
    54:37
    Anyway, our good friend Grant from Australia answered the question, and I'm going to call you out. There is a board set that's available for Xenon and Flash Gordon. No, I know that. Geotech. I have two of them. Wait, but I said that in your... What, did you have to sit there and think a little bit and go, oh, I got one of those? No, I think the GeoTech is actually a Squawk and Talk. It makes a Squawk and Talk version for... You said it's only for two games. I went and looked at the website, so... Whatever. All right, I'll go research that. You forgot, as always, so... No, I didn't forget. It says, I just know that... I don't know. I just know I bought those Squawk and Talks from that guy. Ding, ding. I bought the geotech stuff. I haven't. I haven't used it. I bought it years ago.
    55:29
    But I'm surprised. Yeah, you'll hear anything else. I'm surprised, actually, they have, that he would do something. Davy's Treasure Hunt? Yeah.
    55:38
    I got so much stuff to sell, and I'm trying to sell it on the thread for PinFast. Go ahead. I got some beautiful. Tell everybody. Real silk screen play fields. they made years ago at CPR that's not the digital press, you know, dotted inkjet version they sell now, which are nice, but if you look at them really closely, you can see the little dot spray that doesn't look as good as a real silk screen. Silk screen is solid color, no dots on it. Go ahead. No. So I have a couple, I got a couple Mataharis like that. Have you had anybody buy? No.
    56:17
    Now, I am asking, no, I am asking a premium, though. No, you're asking a premium is right. Yeah, but you have something that's not available. Right, and I've seen cruisemen sell them from even more than me, and he's sold, you know, these Mata Hargis. It's not going to come immediately. It's like anything. You've got to find the right person, but somebody will bite. Eventually somebody will bite. And Flash Gordon, I have a Flash Gordon. I got a freaking Stargazer, you know, done by, what's his name there up in Canada? The other guy, John Greatwink. Oh, yeah, what's his deal? Oh, I think he's had medical problems and so forth. He's got all... He's not very well liked.
    56:59
    Well... A lot of people take liberties on him online. Yeah, well, his heart's in the right place, but he's like a sad sack because he, you know... Over-promises and under-delivers. Yeah, because he had a lot of medical issues. He likes his beer a little bit, a little bit too much maybe. He had some medical issues. He can't afford the doctors up there. you can get a doctor with the social medicine crap that they have in Canada. I heard it's not too good. So they've got all that going on. Okay, no Canada bash. Leave that alone.
    57:29
    A lot of artists? What about them? My Maureen here is commenting that a lot of artists are like that. Yeah, they're depressed. They're very gifted. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, okay. A lot of artists are like that. They're gifted, but they're kind of bummed out, depressed They like a starving artist kind of thing Bill Davis sent me He went through a big thing of depression too and stuff So yeah there a little commonality there He a good person He's got a good heart, but he just, he promises too much, and then people that, you know, are materialistic and they've got to have it now and demand, demand, demand. The world we live in. Let's move away from them. Yep. Do you have another story? I do. We're going to be pressed for time, so, you know. I do. quick quick because we gotta get to the main body sure sure alright so without further ado let's see this is our next statement of you know the last time when we were talking and had what's it called there okay with the donkeys and the chickens and the horses and all that stuff all that. There's all in my backyard. I'm looking at two cows right now. Nice. Well, that's where I went to in Connecticut. And then we went on with this here. Let's see.
    58:54
    Okay, so, more of that, George. I got some bad news. What's your bad news? Uh Well I got a letter From A chimpanzee? Uh oh Oh you got a letter Cease and desist type letter Uh not quite that strong Stop the crap Basically saying Here are the Episodes that either We're going to remove Or you're going to remove for copyright violations. Oh, come on. So which ones? Wait, wait, wait. We're out of theories. So I'm going to tell you the episodes. One of them you're going to be very mad about. Uh-oh. But we'll talk about it offline. Sure.
    59:50
    So the episodes are Episode 90, Harley Davidson. Number 44, I don't know, Age of the Machine or Rage of the Machine, something like that. Number 27, I think it was a set-up show you did over at, your friend TJ's house. Yeah. And then number seven. Hmm.
    60:10
    You don't know what number seven is. Stargazer? Fun and Games. Fun and Games? No. Yes. And you know why. And we're going to tell you. What was the opening song that you used?
    60:25
    Pinball Wizard? No. Hmm. I don't know, George. Okay. Six. You used sticks You did a radio Go back and listen to it It's not out there They removed it from your site It's not even on your site anymore They completely blasted it away I have a copy of it You started with the radio going back and forth And then sticks Yeah, yeah, yeah So, I have a theory That's one song Kid Rock, they didn't like that one, and Alice Cooper. They didn't like that one. I forget what the fourth one was. But my theory is as follows. Every single one of those three bands are out on the road this year, and they must have some kind of relationship with Spotify. And they said, hey, Spotify, get the broom out. Wow. So almost five years, we've never had anything. But I'll tell you. They don't make my life... That company, Free, is not free. No, it's not free. Free is a pain in the ass. No. Yeah. Free is not so... Free is starting to grate on me. Yeah. Free is not so much free. So, the other three episodes, I think... Forget it. I don't really care. But I think we got to, you know, get your... Can we just go back, remove the songs, and republish? No. Because here's the problem. Remember when I told you that they got rid of all the editing software and everything off the site? Yeah, yeah. Because we had to go find a new? Right. So all I can do is listen to it. I can't send it anywhere. Yeah, but I have the originals, don't I? Don't I have the originals? I don't know.
    62:17
    I don't. Oh, you know what? That was way back when you were using some other kind of software before you did Zoom, maybe. It was when we first started. Yeah, we started. I have a copy but I think I might have to okay guys for all of you who are really old I don't know why I remember this but when I was a kid there used to be a show called In Concert on ABC TV okay don't know it I know John Kirshner's rock concert but the cool thing was WPLJ in New York used to do the simulcast of the sound. Yeah. So you would see bands like Emerson Lake and Palmer. Oh, nice. Whatever that, whatever, it's the one I remember. But I used to use my cheapo Panasonic stereo to record the simulcast. Okay.
    63:19
    And before that, the simulcasting, I used to actually put a microphone next to the TV and record it. I have a feeling I'm going to have to do that with this episode.
    63:33
    I have no other way of getting the file. Yeah. You know what? It's you. No, wait. Okay. I didn't want to talk about this. But there's a way to do it. There's a way to do it. You're in the right track. Gary Shandling. Listen, Gary Shandling. Oh, Gary Shandling. Yeah. I'm going to pick you up on your offer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to send you that crap file after we get done with it. And see, because I'm not going to do this with anything else. I'm only doing it because I know this is your favorite arcade.
    64:04
    You're looking at me like I've got three eyes. It's my favorite arcade. I know. Yes, that's what I just said. Yes, thank you. And speaking of Gary Shannon, I got an email from him. He actually found, did I send this to you? He got a beautiful Adam Stanley Gold Collected Edition that he had done up by somebody. he licensed the guy out I think in France or somewhere to redo the back glass to make it into the new Wednesday show version because there's a show called Wednesday with the daughter and it's beautiful and they made Wednesday with a black umbrella in front of the mansion and that's the back glass and so the whole game looks great and he kind of rethemed it a little bit and he's having a big Addams Family party at his place and he's kind of showcasing that game well why don't you get a picture of it and when you do your Addams Family thing, include it so people can see what it looks like. Yeah, okay. All right, we'll do. I mean, we talk about all this crap. Yeah. I don't have the means. You do. That sounds like something you should publish. Yeah, I'll ask him first to make sure it's cool to do so. Right. Yeah, but I think he's, that's a great looker. So let me do, I'm going to do one more story here if you'll allow me to. No, go ahead. I just had to tell you. I felt bad. I'm like, I don't give a crap about the other three programs, but that one I do.
    65:26
    They're not going to come after for that little clip I just did, for that two second. I'm surprised they, you know what it is? Sorry. It's got to be AI. It's got to be.
    65:36
    Yes. They're going to have some kind of bot that just goes out there and says, okay, who's bootlegging X? And they go, oh, there's Georgie. Oh, no, no, no, not allowed to do that.
    65:50
    So I got to need your dishes from what I play now. I don't give a crap. I'm going to keep doing it. There you go. That's right. That's the rebel in you, George.
    66:00
    So got to break some eggs to make the omelet. You do. That's what I think Stalin or Lenin said. Don't associate me with that. George, you're supposed to be a capitalist. What happened to you? I am. Okay. You're even wearing a green shirt. So there you go. Like money.
    66:18
    See that? Houston Arcade Show, folks. Going to go this year. They moved it back to November, the week before or two weeks before Thanksgiving. So off to Houston. Nice.
    66:31
    Off to Houston you go. So back to that talk to the animals thing. Because, you know, there was the donkey, the horse, the chicken. Well, I got a call. Actually, this came from Stu. Stu gave me this call from this guy, local guy in Huffington.
    66:48
    And I guess Stu did some warranty work on a Stern game there. And Stu said, this guy has a crap load of all new Stern games. He's got a downstairs arcade, an upstairs arcade. The games are all packed in there. He's got, like, the who's who of games. And then I talked to him. So Stu gave me the guy because Stu did warranty work, but he didn't want to do any real work there, just the warranty stuff for Stern. He wanted me out of there because he's just an EM guy. So I talked to the guy, a real nice guy. He actually went to the same, like, high school in the town I did in Framingham. He went to Framingham South. I went to Framingham North. So we were talking about that a little bit. And he has an Alice Cooper, what, Mystery Castle? I don't know, Alice. Yeah. He's at that game. Yeah, Spooky. You've got Spooky Game, which, like, ugh, Spooky Games. Not a real fan of their build quality compared to, like, the Bally Williams stuff in the 90s and even the new Stern stuff. And what's the other one? And then you have Rush LE that he wanted me to work on. Because the Rush LE, that one was the left flipper sometimes didn't work, and he talked to Stern. They said, oh, restate this connector. This little pin is popping out of this thing. You've just got to do that. so he did that and it worked for a while and then it came that it didn't work so I made him to take care of that and then the Alice Cooper said you ever work on a spooky game and it's like I think so maybe a Halloween once or twice but I don't have a lot of experience but I'll give it my best shot I'm sure all pinball machines are kind of similar so I can give it a shot so I fixed the rush by the end of stroke switch wasn't quite touching all the way It was barely touching, so I made that touch better, so that fixed that flipper. That was easy. And then Alice Cooper, that thing was like a three-and-a-half-hour nightmare.
    68:44
    And as I'm working on Alice Cooper, trying to figure out this weird thing, it has servo motors in it, it has a little, it has a guillotine thing that has to be adjusted, there's three adjustments for it. He gave me a video online, I just blocked the video trying to do it. And this other little thing from Frankenstein has to come up a certain way, and that wasn't working right, all this servo adjustment. and the way you adjust the things in the game is you, instead of like a Bally Williams from the 90s, where you hit the front door keys a couple times to get in the menu, on spooky games, you get in the menu the same way, but then if you use your left and right flipper and the start button, it's very convoluted whoever wrote the freaking software for the game.
    69:20
    Then I noticed that who did this game, Bowen was on this game. Bowen the neighbor. He was part of the spooky thing. He actually wrote the code. You know there's a Bowen story from a couple weeks ago, right?
    69:33
    No, I don't. At that pin golf, national pin golf thing that was up in New York State. Nope. All right, we're going to table that for a second. I want to hear that. Let me just finish it. Once you hear the game, you're going to laugh. I can't wait. So I'm working on this game. It's very difficult. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm scratching my head. It's like I was ready to give up. It's like, you know, I don't like to throw the towel in, but I was ready to. Then all of a sudden, I'm working really hard on the game, and then I hear this. from the other room nearby.
    70:04
    What the hell? What the heck is this crap? Over and over and over again. And he said, oh yeah, those are my two macaws near the room. They were making such a racket, I couldn't concentrate. And I go in there. They talk? They talk, but they didn't want to talk. They just wanted to squawk. Lots of squawk and talk. But no talk. A lot of squawk. So I went in the room. He showed me, these things are huge. the big red macaw. Oh, what is this now?
    70:34
    I'm not going to take that. That's the Dr. Dave Hutline calling in, but typically it's a spammer. I could answer that and give the spammer some business and have some fun with him, but he could be a real customer, so we'll put that one out for now. So, I go in there. He's showing the birds, and they're like ready to bite you and stuff. They're aggressive. They're biting things. He gave them a piece of wood. They're biting it apart. Then I go back in there again later. I had to talk about something to him. I'm going by one of the cages to knock on the door. I feel my coat being tugged on. What the frick is this? And he's biting it. It's like, he's put his, this thing is his big sharp beak is biting on me. It's like, I want to frickin' punch it. And then it released it and it said, ouch. It said, ouch. Then it started laughing at me. It started going, I said, these are frickin', these aren't, these are demons. They're evil demons. So then I said, why do you have these things? He said, yeah, they're a real pain in the ass. I rescued one. They're loud. They eat a lot of food. They're just kind of annoying. And they get old, real old. Yeah, they last a long time. Like 50 years old. Yeah, yeah. So he said, I think my plan is to, in the wintertime, just let them go.
    71:48
    Well, I told the bird story. Remember I had the bird man living next to me? and he came over to my house, knocked on the door and goes, my bird got away. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I want to get the ladder. I'm like, you're not getting any ladder. Then the bird flew across the street into the woods, and he was out there for two hours trying to get the bird out of the tree. Yeah, you're better off. Just let the bird go. Let the bird go. People shouldn't have these birds. These birds should be in the jungle where they belong, not in someone's house. I mean, it's ridiculous. I don't know who would like this crap. Loud, annoying. I couldn't concentrate. I'm trying to do this weird problem. I finally figured it out.
    72:25
    And I had to adjust the servo the right way. He put some parts in himself. He did it wrong. He said, I think he did it wrong. And he did. He kind of burnt out a fuse on the thing.
    72:33
    I kept burning out fuses. And I had to, like, adjust these servos. But overall, I'm just, I don't get it. With the spooky pinball, I'm not a fan. Not a fan of the design. They've got a hot seller right now, that Evil Dead thing that's out there. And they're always in this dark theme for them. They're always this dark theme. I don't get it You never listened to that Podcast when the father did it I can't remember his first name Oh and so then he showed me Some of the rest of his He has an alien The alien you know that really good Nice game The nice version of that And he's got on The Ellen Ripley Yeah that thing And he's got on the dolly It's all ready to be set up but not set up yet. He's got a Pulp Fiction ready to set up. I mean, if you name a game of the past... But he doesn't know how to repair anything. He tries, but he's a realistic guy. He tries in success. Yeah, well, that's why he's saying, ring, ring, darkening. It's like, oh, I want you to come back again to do some more work at some point. So, I mean, I looked at... I kind of gave him a little break in the bill because I'm looking at it, and it's like, I didn't really do... I did a lot of, like, learning on this one, so I didn't want to charge my full rate because I'm kind of learning on the job, this little OJT. so I kind of took a little bit of money off for that even though he doesn't mind paying he's like oh no problem but I didn't feel right about charging the full boat right well I'll be back in a minute so they said hey in the meantime you know I want you to come back later for some more work from other stuff but right now my games are working great I have a topper I got from Zach Mitty you know flipping out pinball for the alien and it's got it's made in Israel I guess and then the flipping out pinball sells it but you have to assemble it first So he gave me this big box. Can you assemble this for me at your shop? Come back sometime and install it for me. I said, sure. So I took it with me. I got this big box of Alien that I got to assemble, I guess. I even reached out to Zach. That's a good story. I don't even know what that is, but I'm interested. I reached out to Zach this morning. I said, hey, I heard you got to assemble this thing. What's the story with it? What are you going to do exactly? And he didn't really have a good answer for me. He did get back to me, though. He basically said, where is he here? He said, I said, hey, Zach. I sell the box, I take the money. Yeah, yeah. I said, hello, Zach. A client of mine bought your topic for me to install on Alien. He told me it needed to be assembled first out of the box and installed on top of the game. Is it true it needs to be assembled first and installed? Let me know. He wrote back, I believe so, but not sure offhand. There should be instructions on the website. I didn't see any instructions on the website. I looked, but I'll have to look a little better. Maybe I'll have to open the box and see. Hopefully there's something in the box to look at. To be continued. Where are we in time?
    75:19
    We are in the year 2025. Oh, not that part. Oh, we are, we've got about another two minutes or so. Okay.
    75:31
    Hopefully you can spool this faster. Yeah, I can. Because I'm on a tight deadline. Yeah. When we come back, we are going to talk about all the games that are currently scheduled to be in the free play area of Pintastic. We've done this every year. You'll hear our thoughts about all those different games. How's that? That sounds fantastic. Or Pintastic. Oh, Christ.
    76:04
    Thank you. I'm here all week, all morning. Yeah You'll be starving too Okay See you in a few I'll see you in a few Hey folks Our final segment That you've all been waiting for Pintastic Review No not this I guess Review April 10th through 13th in Marlborough, Massachusetts. Dave and I will both be there.
    76:41
    We've done this numerous times. We're going to go through the free play game list, and we're going to have a little bit of fun. You ready?
    76:49
    I'm ready. I'm just pulling up the site right now to see what we got for games and so forth. Okay, I'm going to start off a little untraditional. How's that? All right. And the reason I am is because of the way it's put on the website. there are a lot of new games. And if you go out onto the free play, it says that all these new games are available for sale.
    77:19
    What it doesn't say is whether they're going to be set up for free play. Now, if it's like all the other programs we've been to over the years, there's usually a lot of new games. And there's quite a few. I know you probably have not kept up Actually no you know what I wanted to surprise you I actually did a quick little bit of study today Oh god Well miracles never cease Yeah I said you know Especially after being at this guy's house yesterday Looking at all the new games I need to step up a little bit Even though we are a classic pinball podcast But I'll see what they got around And so forth There's some interesting pins There's one pin that I can comment on a little bit that looks very interesting. I'd like to actually play this one, but it's not going to come out until the summer. So it's not going to be any show soon. How did he get that one? He doesn't have this one. I don't know how I stumbled into it. I forget. Oh, you know what? I went on Pinball News. What pin?
    78:22
    It's called Portal. Okay, so that's a good one. So let's talk about this. All right, well, hold on. First, we'll go in and see what Gladys has to say. Hold on a second. Let's see. Oh, you bastard. Oh, please. Why? Why, why, why? Why the things? Technology, man.
    78:43
    Oh, boy, oh, boy. You're supposed to stink up. You didn't stink up. Okay. Oh, now I got it. Here we go. Take two. Gladys, what do you got for us?
    78:53
    Hello again. It's been a long time. I had almost given up hope of ever testing again. But I think we can put our differences behind us for science. Federal regulations require me to warn you that this next test chamber is looking pretty good. So it's very cool that P3 is the platform and Portal 3 is basically the pinball machine. Before we go any further, I listened to a couple other podcasts talk about this. Okay. I have no idea what this IP is. Before you saw this on Pinball News, did you know what Portal was? Yes, I did.
    79:39
    Alan Davidson. Who's that? Alan Davidson, years ago, I was hanging out with him at his place. He played this game all the time, and I watched him play it. I tried to play it. It's a puzzle game. It's a very cool game. Kind of dark, though. It has like a dark, foreboding feeling all the time. Because these things are always trying to kill you. but at the same time as they're starting to try, this little robot that's trying to shoot you, it says hello, are you still there? nicely, and you go around the corner and it starts shooting you so it's like, it's this disconnect where they're talking very sweet to you as they're trying to murder you know, so yeah, it's a very dark twisted game, but very I think we'll see one that's fantastic, my guess is no, no, it said summer release So that's a no.
    80:27
    So anything else on Portal? It looks like I'd like to, I mean, I'm not a big P3 fan. I don't really care for the platform.
    80:36
    We've played them. We've played Princess Bride. We've played, help me, Weird Al. So I played Weird Al. Did I play Princess? So here's the thing. If I played Princess Bride. Last year you would have played it in that Tycoon's special room where the Tycoon arcade Yeah, right, right. I don't think I got a chance to play that. Okay, I played it. It's okay. I mean, you like the movie? Have you seen the movie?
    81:03
    No. That's a no. No, George doesn't watch movies. So I know the movie. I watch all the movies. I don't watch that stuff. That's a great movie. That movie is... I'll ask Janice. Well, I'll tell you what. That movie is a great movie because there's a lot of Easter eggs in it. There's a lot of truth in that movie. behind the scenes if you know what's going on with basically world events and that kind of thing. It basically tells a lot of stuff. It's sort of a kids movie and it's a adult movie. It's a little bit like Bugs Bunny. It's multi-level if you know what you're looking for. There's a lot of cool stuff. So definitely put it on your watch list at some point. It's a good film because you'll see in it. And later on, I'll explain to you a couple things in it and you'll say, oh, wow.
    81:47
    There's a lot of comparisons in there. We'll come back to it. Okay. Look, I'm on a tight spot. Yes, yes. Let's go. Sure. So let's go through the games. So first game up is ACDC Premium.
    81:59
    Yeah, it's okay. I'm not a big fan of that. Okay, I'm going to make the statement. I'm going to try to play all the rock and roll games while I'm at the show. I'm probably not. I don't like music pins. Okay, well, I'm going to try. So the next one's Aerosmith, which I like. They're going to have one out on the regular floor and then one in the Extra Ball Lounge. And I'm not going down that road because some people were really pissed about it. But leave that alone. They're still pissed about it. Okay. Yeah. People are like, why can't I get in that room? It's not the way it works. And, you know, take it up with management. Anyway, so here comes your alien Ellen Ripley edition. That's also going to be in the Extra Ball Lounge. Right. I'm going to say that quite a bit. The good thing is I know a guy who has one. I can go over there right now and play it. Right. It's not a bad game. I played it once. Again, have you seen that movie, George?
    82:58
    No. See, you're missing out on a whole bunch of stuff, but okay. Okay. Well, you know that. Yeah. Next one, Atlantis, Gottlieb game. What about Amazon Hunt? You missed that one.
    83:11
    Oh, yeah. Why isn't that on my list? You've got to refresh. Do you have the latest list? Okay, well, you can correct me as I go along. Okay, sure. Amazon Hunt, burned out game. Somebody's selling that. Did you see the back glass of that thing? No. It was out on... It's out on Pinside somewhere. It's not a good game. It's a... Cotley rehashed and rethemed so many games. $750 if you want to buy it. How much? $750. Eh, no. Pass. Ugly game, too. Next game I have is Aztec. You're missing Godly of Atlantis, is there? No, I just said that. Okay. All right. So Avatar is going to be there. You know what? The available to order thing for sale, I bet you they're going to have them there to play, and you can order them. That's what it means. You can't buy one on the floor, but I bet you they have them to play, and you can order them. That's what it is. I bet you. That's good. I just refreshed. So I've had this on my phone for a couple of days, so they did add some games. Good. The next one I have is Avatar the Battle of Pandora. I played that. You heard me talk about that when I went to York. I'll play it. Is it good? Do you like it? I figured out how you... I played it real well with it. Had no idea what it was, but yeah, it's a colorful game. I don't care for that movie, but I think the game looks pretty good.
    84:26
    Aztec. Williams game. I restored one of those many years ago. Not a bad game to play. It's decent. Decent email. Okay, management is fantastic. You need to update your database. You have another Aztec with a bell next to it. I'm going to make a guess that that means it's for Bells and Chimes, but you don't identify that icon. Yeah, there's no legend. There's no legend. No word. Thank you. Okay, then we've got in the tournament, Barrio's Barbecue Challenge. Eh, pass. And it's on the floor. Played it a lot. Pass. I don't get it. Okay, so here's another Bells and Chimes game, Batman 66 Premium. Fun little title if you like Batman from that time. So, doesn't Bells and Chimes at this show have their own room? Yes, they do.
    85:16
    If I recall, I think you could go in there and free play. You can. You can go right in there, yep. Okay, so maybe you're going to get to play that game. Yeah. Here's another one that I want to play. Big Game. Great game. I haven't. Yeah, definitely should play it. I think they had it last year. I have one of those. I just haven't restored it yet, but that's a nice Stern, old school Stern. What do you think of this for the tournament? Big Top.
    85:41
    No. I'm not familiar with it. No, I don't think so. Oh, that's what I wanted to tell you when I forgot. So we're talking about tournaments. Real quick story. Yeah. You're talking about our neighbor, Mr. Bowman. Yes.
    85:55
    They had in the pin golf a hot dog. That game was not a favorite of, I think, anybody. People were slow scoring on that game like there was no tomorrow. Now, they had it set up pretty difficult. I looked at it, and I'm like, oh, I don't have mine set up like that. Hold on. Which game again? Give me the title again. Hot Dog. Okay.
    86:21
    Gave people a lot of problems. Now, I had heard that he gaffed and scored a 10 on that hole. But he didn't. The neighbor. The neighbor didn't do too well, you're saying. Okay. Yeah. But it gave everybody else headaches. I was glad to see that game in there. And I'm like, oh, you got this thing set up really hard? And all these rampers were just getting crushed by it It was awesome I love the lot of them It was great That made my day I love the game They do not like this That is the game that you want to put in tournaments as they set that up because it gives people agita.
    86:57
    Sorry. Yeah. Tangent. I'm looking right now. Black Knight, Swords of Rage. Now, I don't know what that icon is. Do you?
    87:06
    Let me go take a look here. It looks like a guy sweating. It does look like a guy sweating. So I don't know what that means.
    87:17
    I'll play that. That's not a bad game. I don't know what that means. I mean, maybe I hover over it. No, you think I hover over it. Oh, clubroom game. There it is. You hover over it.
    87:28
    What's the clubroom? That must be New Hampshire Clubroom. Oh, okay. Oh, did I just say I had a legend? Anyway. So Marston's saying right now in the background, guys, hover over the thing and see what it is. Well, we just told everybody, so say it again so I don't get a nasty gram. You take your cursor and hover over those little icons. It'll come up and what it is. It would be nice to know that as well for us who are... Yeah, put it at the bottom. Put a legend. Yeah, sure. Okay, Borderlands. This is a homebrew, I guess. Do you know what that is? It's a movie that I really don't give a crap about. It's a stupid movie that they just put out recently with Jamie Lee Curtis as an aging bad girl that, I don't know.
    88:15
    I don't know. Okay. Well, here's your game, Bow and Arrow. Yeah, well, there's a good game. We'll play it. We'll see how restored or how well that plays. Here's another game that we've done a show on. I don't know what number. You can look it up.
    88:32
    Dracula, Bram Stoker's. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's going to be on the floor as well as in the extra ball lounge.
    88:41
    Another game that you've done, Captain Fantastic. We've done a lot of these games. Yeah, we have. Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy. Yeah. That's going to be on the free play.
    88:50
    I'm going to play that. Oh, I'm so sick of that game. I have two of them. I just want to stop them. Well, you had it in the shop for a while. Oh, yeah. I've restored so many of those. Here's one I do want to play. We've talked about this on the show before. Champion Pup. I don't think. I've restored a couple of them it's okay, it's kind of fun you know, for a ramper, it's just different so yeah, it's not a bad player here's one we can talk about real quickly Christmas Countdown why don't we have a pinball game that's got a Christmas theme in it and don't say you know, taxi but that's not a Christmas theme it's a real true Christmas theme it's seasonal who wants to play Christmas theme in July I don't know it's kind of I don't know it's free it's true, it's probably why John picked it on Manwillion Circus Voltaire in the extra ball arms, that's our Ringmaster Jerry game you did that game too, we've done a lot of these games Yeah, I did that one, yeah. Okay, here's one I don't like, and a lot of people do. Congo. I like that game. That's a cool game. I like the long shot up the right side there. That's a fun little game. I played it out in Texas at an arcade. Must not have been a good... I had a bad taste in my mouth after playing it. I played that at Pin Mania. The first Pin Mania they had, when they moved the thing to the Socko River, at this guy's big shed or something. And I was playing, I think I played one of the guys there. What's his name? Zach? Who's the guy at Stern? What's the name? The two brothers at Stern helped me there. Oh, Sharps. Yeah, I played one of the Sharps in that game. I think I won. I think I beat him on Congo. And it was my first time ever playing the game. That was pretty fun. According to that, two of them. One in the tournament, one on the floor. I'll probably, I'll play it. I don't really see the game that often. I'll play it. It's a ramper from 94. But hopefully we'll get to play some games. You and I, you know, I meant to do this and I forgot.
    91:17
    You and I should say these are games we're going to play together and comment on our next show. Yeah, definitely. We can decide that as we go along. Yeah, I had definitely more time this year to actually do that kind of stuff. We've talked about that. Yeah. I exposed that in our last show. Right, right. Yeah. So it's going to be good.
    91:36
    Countdown. Do a podcast duties. Countdown, great game. Great Gottlieb game. System 1. One of the best System 1s. So the best System 1s to own is a Countdown, Pinball Pool, Joker Poker. Those are the top three. Then you've got Genie. It's good, too.
    91:54
    Hulk's pretty good. then you start to get into not so good. But that's one of the top three System 1 games. How about Deadpool Pro? Deadpool is a fun ramper, a fun stern ramper. I don't have enough time. I know I've played it but not recently. Actually, I just went to my Burlington place there with all the games in the break room. Your customer with all the games in the break room? Yeah, he had eight of them again. So Deadpool is one of them I worked on. They play the crap out of the game. So they keep me in business. That's good. Okay, what about Defender? That's a rare one. That's a nice, well, that's great for the tournament. That's a nice, rare Williams game. Oh, what the Silver Bowl Rumble's going to have. Okay. That's one that people are not going to be familiar with.
    92:45
    Rare. So that's good. I like games like that in the tournament. That usually messes people up. That's a fun player. So what's going to, and it's kind of cool they put these different games in it, because basically some people are probably going to buy a ticket to be in the tournament just so they can play that game, because otherwise you can't play the game. So you're going to donate money to play that game. Okay. Demoman?
    93:09
    Not a bad not my favorite ramper. I've worked on several of those. I've played it. It's okay. It's alright. Dialed in. I don't like that game. No, thank you. Don't we have enough about cell phones and smartphones already? Pass. Everybody knows we don't like that game.
    93:26
    Disney's Frozen. I remember seeing that. He got joined last year. Here we go. The Elon Trump game. Dogies. Or Dogees. The Dogecoin game. That Dave Marston talked about. Doozy. You know what? They should actually... I'm Uncle Doozy. Why don't they take Dogees or whatever and turn it into Dogecoin game and retheme it?
    93:50
    Dogecoin? Okay. Or Dogecoin, or do it to Doge, we're going to fire everybody game. Okay, so we've got two Dr. Dudes.
    94:00
    What did you just say? Doge, we're going to fire you game. You're fired. Right. Have Trump call out saying you're fired from the show he was on. That would be pretty good. Yeah.
    94:13
    Okay, here's a Dr. Dude. No, oh, no, no. Stupid game. No. Dungeons and Dragons. Have not played. Looking forward to trying it.
    94:26
    Don't know the game. Don't know anything about Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, brand new game from Stern. So, I was never a D&D fan. I have a bunch of friends from years ago who love D&D, and they're going to be at the show this year, so I'm going to show them that game. So, here, here's a game for you guys. Play that. Let's talk about that real quick. We're going to be at the show. We have to come up with a bunch of people that we want to interview. I'm not going to do what I did last year we're going to actually sit in a room and we've got to figure out some kind of theme I'm going to put a call out there okay, everybody knows me by voice people know you by sight and voice come up to us and say hey, I want to be on your show but you've got to give me a reason why no? okay, yeah well, if they're a fan of the show and they can talk about their favorite Look, I got the power of the button. If the email you suck, I don't put it on them. Well, you don't want to scare people away, George. You want to, you know, chat your nets. I do that anyway. Chat the nets wide. Ask me how many emails I get. Exactly.
    95:35
    Zip, they're afraid of you. Hey, I give Dave Marston a lot of credit. He jumped over the top rope into the ring, and he came out alive. He did a good job. I have a lot of respect for him. He at least will come on and put up with my crap. Yes. Yes, he did. Hey, I defended you. Don't turn on me. Yeah, he can, you know, he can go in there and do a couple rounds. Sure. Yeah, okay. Bring your what, Maureen? Blinker. Yeah, bring your blinker. You need to make sure your blinker's on so you know when to get into oncoming traffic. That's true. Okay. Elton John. We liked that last year. Yeah, it's decent. I think it's kind of run its course, though. It's kind of like ho-hum. It's all right. Okay. Elvirus has the hardest. I happen to like that. That's in the extra ball lounge. So, not a bad game. Not a bad game. I've worked on that game before, up in the wild. Okay. We've got an Evel Knievel SS on the floor. I'll definitely play that. That's going to be fun to war with you on, I think. We'll do that. Okay. We'll do that. Fireball Classic is going to be in the tournament. Wow. The tournament has some good games this year. I like those. Some games that people probably won't... Not like. ...choke on. Yeah, like Fireball Classic. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. That'll put people... Yeah, that's not going to get played. That'll be a great humbler. That's going to humbler people. Oh, that's a good one. Foo Fighters. No. L.E. in the Extra Ball Lounge. No, I don't like the band. I don't like the game. Yeah, it's okay. Foo Fighters Premium in the Bells and Chimes Room. Yeah, there's a bell for you. Right. Frontier in the Bells and Chimes Room. Yeah, they do. Yeah, I played that last year at a Frontier. I like that. I sold two beautiful ones years ago. Yeah, I know. We're not throwing there again.
    97:25
    People have a bad memory. You could never have done that. Okay, Funhouse, your wife's favorite game. Maureen. They actually are doing a re-team. They're not re-team. They're doing a remake of that again. They're doing the Pinball Brothers. Who's doing that? Someone's doing the Funhouse. I was reading about it today. that they're going to, almost like they're doing the Monster Bash and the Medieval Madness, they're doing Funhaus. I thought they already did a remake of that game. They did, the Rudy's Nightmare stupid thing. Yeah, they're still doing the Rudy's Nightmare. Oh, they're going to do another one? They're going to do Rudy's Nightmare again, done up, and they're going to do an original Funhaus, the original one with no bastardization of Rudy's talking, and the original gig. So they're going to do an actual... An actual real Funhaus, which I think is great because a lot of people like that game. That game will sell. Okay. Here's one that is another clunker. Galactic Tank Force in the extra ball land. You know the funny thing about Galactic Tank Force? They almost use the same feel as, what's it? The flippers on that game are not very good. Godzilla. It has a Godzilla theme to it. The people in the background, the Japanese people in the control room, they sell the thing on the TV screen there, you know, the video. So the Galactic Tank Force is the same feel that Godzilla does. You know, so it's kind of a, they're kind of almost, there's similar games in a way with that kind of thing. But Godzilla's a better game.
    98:51
    Here's Genie, the one you talked about earlier. That's a fun game. Getaway, which you just did some work on. Oh, High Speed 2, is that a different one? That's the one, that's the one. That was like a, I don't know, a trashy, Crashy, freaking road hard, put away wet, and got shocked. How about Gilligan's Island?
    99:14
    It's not bad for a ramper from that time frame. You don't see it that often. I worked on one of those, too. I'd probably play a game on that.
    99:22
    Let me say that now. Are you a Ginger or Mary Ann guy? I forgot if I asked you this question. I don't know.
    99:31
    I'm definitely a Mary Ann guy. Yeah, maybe. Ginger can go take her makeup and go in the other room Okay, we're so on these Godzilla Pro Good game, I've played a bunch of it already So I don't need to play it anymore Okay, that's at the Istanbul Lounge Here's the Gold Wings And the, what did you say that icon was? The party guy That is the sweaty room It's where you sweat, the club room Whatever, whatever that is Yeah, the club room So Gold Wings, that actually is an homage to Top Gun and Godling made like a Top Gun game without calling a Top Gun. Oh, I thought it was a motorcycle game. No. You know, like a Goldwing motorcycle? That would make sense, but no. Goldwings would be, you're going to Top Gun. It's a rip-off game. Okay. A rip-off game, yes. Godling didn't want to pay the IP. Nope. Didn't want to pay it. Gorgar, we've done that game. I've done so many of that game. I've got two more coming up I'm going to do. You'll probably get another one after this. Exactly. Grand Lizard. Don't care for it. People like that game. A lot of drop targets. Four flippers. Not familiar Guardians of the Galaxy Pro It's okay I'm actually working on one of those Coming up in a week or two I'm working on one of those for a customer Yeah those are in the New Hampshire Club room Upstream EM game from Williams Yeah it's an oldie Guns and Roses That's in the extra ball Guns and Roses Day to East Oh, they got the David East one and the new one. Right. Bells and Chimes has Harlem Globetrotters. I played last night. I know I got to reset my game. I'm way too easy. I scored over a million points on the first ball. My neighbor came over to deliver some cookies, and my wife goes, come upstairs. I'm like, oh, crap. I go, I'm having a great game. Went back down after he left. Trashed. Yeah. Yep. Lost the mojo. Can't do that.
    101:34
    Let's see. Haunted Cruise. I'm guessing that's a... That's a John game. That's a... Manuelian. That's a custom theme. Okay. Hocus Pocus. That's the new tournament. That's a big... I own that. Yeah, that's actually a fun tourney game. So that's another... They've got some wild games in the tourney game. This is going to be a good year for their lineup there. I like their lineup so far. I think this is a piggy of a game. Hollywood Heat? Yeah, crap. Okay, good. It's for sale if you want it. It's for sale. I see them all over the... Nobody wants it. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff for sale. We'll go into that at another point in time. Hot Wheels in the Extra Ball Lounge. Meh. Yeah, I never wore Hot Wheels, but I'm back in... Yeah. I still have my original Hot Wheels, if you can believe that. I'm not old. Wow, pretty good. Houtini, Master of Mystery. Same manufacturer. It's a decent game, but I don't know if I need to play it. Top game. Yeah. Indiana Jones, you just got done doing one. That's in the tournament. Okay.
    102:40
    Indianapolis 500. Not a bad game. Not a bad ramper. Oh, that was the game. I told this story, too, from Houston. I was playing it with Colin McAlpine. Or, no, he was watching me play, and I had to play him in the next game. He came up to me and he goes, you've never played this game before. did you? I go, no. He goes, man, you played it well. I go, I had no idea what I was doing. He goes, yeah, that was apparent, but you hit the right things. So, I got a good vibe from him. Thank you, Colin.
    103:16
    Houdini, Indiana, Indianapolis 500, Iron Maiden. That's going to be in the tournament. I like that game.
    103:25
    Yeah, not a bad game. Iron Maiden, Legacy of the Beast pro is going to be on the floor, and there's going to be a pro in the extra bowl lounge. So, plenty of Iron Maiden to go around. Here's one I know you've owned, and you probably have sold, Jack in the Box.
    103:40
    Oh, not a good game. I spent a lot of money in that game when I was a kid. Not a good game. Don't like it. You don't like that game? No. Ugly. You ever played it back in the day?
    103:49
    I probably, I mean, I owned the game. I bought it years ago for cheap money, restored it, sold it, couldn't get rid of it as fast. I just don't like that game. I don't like the pop-emers down here, the flippers. You know, that's why I don't really care for Old Chicago either. I don't like those pop-up bars right near your flippers. Okay.
    104:06
    Jackpot. It's like Pinbot, but a 1990s version of the game. Not a bad game. I don't need to play it, though.
    104:16
    Labyrinth played that way too much. So here's the thing. So our neighbor is part of Barrels of Fun, and is Spooky and Barrels of Fun the same? No. So does he work for both? Or he worked for Spooky then moved to Bows and Bugs? Worked for one. Parting of the Ways. I think he's a gun for hire. Okay. He's a consultant. Okay, gotcha. Joust.
    104:44
    It's a Bally EM, so that's kind of... Oh, that's not the two-fire one? No, that's a Bally EM. Oh, never mind. That's okay. Okay, we're back to Judge Dredd.
    104:57
    Nah. That's in the Extra Ball Lounge. Not a fan of that one. Jurassic Park. Data East version. No, not a fan.
    105:05
    How about King of the Arcade? I guess that's a homebrew. That's a homebrew. No, not one. We're going to have to play these homebrews. Some of them were good. We'll try some of them. Led Zeppelin Pro. No. No, don't need to. No. Lightning. We can play that. Lightning I'd play. PJ has the one that sold them years ago. That's a great game. Okay, there you go. play that. Little Chief.
    105:31
    It's a William Kane from 75. I'll try that. I'll give that a shot. Okay. You're trying a lot of things. Yeah. We'll see how many you actually play. Right. Luau, this was a game that Dave Marston talked about. I'm guessing Hawaiian theme, homebrew. Another John homebrew. He's bringing about four or five homebrews so far here. He's the homebrew master, it seems like. Magic City, is that a homebrew too? No, that's a real Williams game from 67. Not a big fan of that one. If you look at the back glass, it's a little bit racy. If you really look at it carefully, there's something going on subliminally with that back glass. So check that out, folks. Okay, so we've got Metallica, all of them. Premium Monster in the Exit Ball Lounge. Metallica Pro on the floor in a Metallica Remastered, which is the new one. I will try the Remastered one. Yeah, I want to see what that is. Yeah.
    106:24
    Mystics. Oh, it's available for sale, George. You can buy a Mystic. I'm not a... I liked that game back in the day. I don't care for it these days because it's too much of that, I don't know, one-eyed symbolism, pyramids, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, my buddy Jack, it's one of the Survivor games from the Hurricanes. You know, too bad. He had a lot of better games, but that one happened to be upstairs. It's not a bad ballet. No, it's a fun game. I mean, it's not bad. You know, like I said before, the 1980 ballet, 1980 was not the best year for Valley. It was just an okay year. 79 is a great year. 81 is a great year. 80, they didn't have a lot of really good, strong stuff in 1980. They had a couple, but a lot of them were just kind of okay games. Here's a game that you talked about in one of our shows, New York. Oh, yeah. I restored one of those and sold that off years ago. Yeah? Yeah, that's a kind of rare add-a-ball of Spirit of 76. Here's one that's getting a lot of pub. Ninja Eclipse from Turner. brand new game.
    107:26
    Brand new manufacturer. Oh, so this is their first game? Their first adventure? Yeah, first one and they just came out with Merlin, I think. Oh, Merlin. I saw that one too. Right. I think that's them. I don't see that anywhere on here. No fear. We gotta run through this. Yeah, we got about eight minutes. Let's run through. Yeah, no fear. Not a bad game, but nothing I really care about. Okay, here we go. Old Chicago. you didn't like that. I didn't care for too much. Paragon, I own one, you own one, everyone owns one. Good game. Playboy, no thanks. Playboy, which is not the Valley one, it's somebody else's. No, that's, oh, Chicago Coin. Okay, it's different. I have no idea. I don't know what that is. 1947, I don't have a lot of hope for that one. Here we go, Dave. Somebody's bringing the Princess Bride, so you and I can play that. Okay, okay. Let's put that on our list. All right, put that on our list.
    108:18
    Rawhide in the tournament. Oh, good. In the tournament. They've had that in the tournament before. That's a fun tournament game. I played that, I think, last year or the year before. Yep. Red and Ted's Roadshow. Pass. That's in the Extra Ball Lounge. Yeah. Rescue 911. No, no good. Nope. Rick and Morty, not a fan. Not a big fan. Ripley's Believe It or Not. People like that game now. I don't know. I don't need to play it. Road Kings, we talked about that. That's Mad Max ripoff. Yep.
    108:46
    Rocket. Stu and Steve did that game. It's an old EM, a multi-ball game, I think. That's actually a fun little game. That's not bad. I'd play that. Roller games, a lot of people like this game. It's a big tournament game, if I'm... I'm not a fan. That game is all about advertising. Coke, Pepsi, and Starbucks or something. Okay, Royal Guard. No. Had that EM. I restored one of those. Not a fan of that one. Scared stiff in the extra ball land. My sister wants that game so bad. She was going to buy it $4,000 years ago, and now good luck. You can't find that. Right, forgot it. Skate or Die. Saw this at York. Didn't get to play it. You and I need to go see this homebrew. All right. Very interesting. We'll comment on it in the next show. All right. Skylab.
    109:33
    Nah, it's a Williams game from 74. I don't feel much hope for that one. Spider-Man. You still haven't sold yours, right? I'm going to sell mine. I'm hoping to sell at some point. I don't know. Okay, I don't know which Star Trek I don't have. That's a 79 Valley original Star Trek. I'm not a big fan of that game. Me neither. That belongs to be a 1980 Valley, because it's one of those also-rans that's not that great of a game. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it. Star Wars Premium, no. No. Star Wars Pro, no. Starjet. Now, that's a game from Valley we should play. That's a cool, rare game. Okay, well, so we've got two games so far that we have to play. Stars is going to be in the tournament, which is good. Another good title. Boy. Okay, Superman. Jim Swain is not going to the park. Good job, Jim. Did you show one Superman? We did, because I restored one of those. Beautiful. Right. I restored six of them, actually. Tales from the Crypt. Not a bad game from Data East in the early 90s. Okay, that's in the Extra Ball, along with Tales from the Arabian Nights. Pretty game. And one in the tournament as well. Wow. We're getting to the end of the list here. Okay. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. No. Uh-uh. Terminator 2. Two of them.
    110:41
    Cena done it. Okay, here's your Addams Family. Have one right now. Always got to have one of those. The Adventures of Sinbad.
    110:48
    That's a homebrew, I think. Homebrew hybrid with a TV screen. Pretty cool game. Did you see it? Yeah, I played it. They have a scene from 1960's Sinbad on the back. Where did you play it? At the show last year? I played it at the show last year. I played it at Pinfest and Pintac. I don't remember that one. Okay. The Avengers. I have not played that yet. I have not played that one either. Okay, Big Lebowski, we played that. I will play that. That's on the floor. Oh, that's a definite, play that. That's the one you want to miss. The Hangover Trilogy. I'm guessing that's a homebrew.
    111:21
    Game Room Pinball LLC. So, no, I think that's a, oh, that's the movie. So that's the movie The Hangover. No, I know what it is.
    111:30
    That's a new game, it's Game Room Pinball LLC. So it must be a real mania. I don't know what that is, but we're going to find out. It doesn't say available for sale, so I'm not sure. We'll see what that one's about. Lord of the Rings in the Extra Ball Lounge. Not a bad story, but I don't need to play it. Magic Forest. That's another John homebrew. God, he's bringing a lot of games. The Walking Dead Premium, don't like. No, I don't like ugly games. The Wigglers. No, not a good game. 1967, nah. Okay, don't like that. Here for Magic, we're back to that. Good flow. It's a good ramp game with a lot of good flow. Here's one we do need to play. This is Final Time. I'll play that. I'll play that one. We'll see how good it is. Okay. Touchdown. Nah, football game. Toy Story, no. Definitely not. Screw that. Triple action.
    112:19
    That's something a baseball team would be. Is that the one with the, I can't say that word, the Middle Eastern people on the back?
    112:28
    I don't think so. Triple action. I think it's going to be a baseball team game in 74. It's got like a harem theme to it now. Maybe I'm thinking something else. You're thinking of a different kind of action, George. What kind of action are you talking about? Oh, yeah, that kind of action. Be quiet. Stop. stop in the tournament. That actually was called, originally, Ramp Warrior. And they wanted truth in advertising. They said, no, no, don't tell truth. Tell them it's truck stop. So that's what they did.
    112:55
    Lots of ramps. Played it so many times. Uncanny X-Men Premium. Haven't played it. I'm giving it a shot. That's going to be in the tournament. Venom Pro, do not like. Don't care. Vulcan, I'll play that that's a good cover Warhammer 40k I'd try it, I don't know who done it? I sold one to my buddy, the aging buddy up in Connecticut there okay, Wildfire is that the Stern game?
    113:31
    Reignited oh, so that's Wildfire with probably custom code or some kind of custom thing going on I'm interested to see what that is That's in the club room, so we can go play that. Okay, Willy Wonka. Oh, crap. Okay, a couple of wizards. Those are okay. Right. Royal Rumble in the extra ball and in the tournament. Just restored one of those. It's okay. And we're down to the last game. Yukon Special, whatever the hell that is. I don't know what that is. So it must be Yukon in the Bell and Chimes room. They probably put LEDs in it. I don't know. Yeah, my point. Yeah. I don't want you or anyone else to reprimand me, but the game I bought, my Blackjack, is all LED'd out. All right. Is it LED first gen or current gen? It said Comet on it. I don't own any of them. I haven't plugged the game in yet, so I don't know. Yeah, I'd probably... I'll let you know. I'm just hoping it doesn't look like a refrigerator. Yeah, I think it's going to look like a refrigerator. I'd say, yeah, I'd go for the warm LEDs, if anything, but that game... I don't know what he put in, but... He didn't put your super-duper new expensive ones in, I'm sure. Oh, no, he didn't put Mitchells in there. No, no. He knew what they were, though.
    114:48
    He knew what they were. Oh, he did? He knew how much they cost. Oh, okay. But they're too expensive for me. Oh, okay. Okay. I like them. Anyway, that's our show for today, folks.
    115:00
    I got to run. Yeah. And we have less than one minute, so it's perfect timing for you. Well, it looks as if our time has just about run out. Just enough left to tell him who the sponsor was. Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? I'm Dave!
    115:18
    Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! Right. George, you don't know what you're saying. You're under their control. George, we've had it with you. This ain't no rodeo, bro-dad. Hasta la vista, baby.