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Saturday Morning Spectacular 3/4

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·1h 28m·analyzed·Mar 11, 2023
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TL;DR

Host criticizes simultaneous game launches, high pricing, and market saturation in pinball industry.

Summary

In a live Saturday morning podcast broadcast, the host discusses an unprecedented glut of new pinball game releases hitting the market simultaneously (Foo Fighters, The Godfather, Galactic Tank Force, Scooby-Doo, Pulp Fiction), analyzing pricing strategy failures, market saturation, FOMO dynamics, and poor launch timing by American Pinball. The host criticizes manufacturers for releasing too many titles at once, advocates for consumer patience rather than early adoption, and expresses skepticism about premium pricing ($13,000-$15,000) given mechanical limitations and depreciation.

Key Claims

  • The Godfather has been confirmed as the next Jersey Jack Pinball release coming Tuesday

    high confidence · Host states 'And now that we know it's The Godfather confirmed coming out what the seventh, what is that Tuesday, right?'

  • Galactic Tank Force is being released in four different versions/variations

    high confidence · Host explicitly states 'They have four versions of the game. Four! How are you going to release 4 versions of Galactic Tank Force?'

  • Foo Fighters costs $2,500 more than Godzilla Elite ($10,500), making it $13,000 at Premium tier

    high confidence · Host compares: 'Foo Fighters is $2,500 more expensive than Godzilla was from a trim' and references '$13,000 now'

  • Louis Toy Story (Jersey Jack) is available new in-box at secondary market for $11,500, down from $15,000+

    high confidence · Host states 'you now can buy a new in-box Louis Toy Story collector's Edition for $11,500'

  • Batman SLE recently sold for $30,000 at secondary market

    high confidence · Host announces 'A Batman SLE just sold this past week for $30,000'

  • American Pinball miscalculated timing and missed market window during James Bond dissatisfaction

    medium confidence · Host states 'You had your window when everybody was unsatisfied with James Bond' and 'You should have dropped the game in December'

  • Foo Fighters animations are the best Stern has ever produced and likely to win best animations at next This Week in Pinball Awards

    medium confidence · Host claims 'it's the best animation Sam Stern Pinball has ever done' and 'is going to win best animations at next year's This Week in Pinball Awards'

  • Foo Fighters lacks significant mechanical features compared to past Stern games (no tractor beams, no alien space ship steals ball mechanic, no House of Horrors-style environments)

    medium confidence · Host lists missing mechanics: 'There's not like one... Mech in the game' and compares unfavorably to Elvira, Godzilla

Notable Quotes

  • “I've been covering this hobby for seven years... I've never seen a period like this. Nobody's ever seen a period like this.”

    Host (Kaneda's Pinball Podcast) @ ~0:02:00 — Sets the tone for unprecedented market saturation and game release volume

  • “The reason that everybody dropping a game at the same time in this hobby is is not smart. There's no way around it. It's not smart.”

    Host @ ~0:08:00 — Core thesis on market strategy failures

  • “You're going to lose money on almost every game you buy now. You're going to lose money. You might lose two to $3,000.”

    Host @ ~0:15:00 — Stark warning about depreciation and secondary market dynamics

  • “Why would you buy anything right now? You are not gonna have a hard time getting anything... if you wait until April.”

    Host @ ~0:19:00 — Direct consumer advice against FOMO purchasing

  • “The Godfather is a terrible theme for pinball. It shouldn't work for pinball. There's absolutely no way The Godfather can become a good pinball machine, right?”

    Host @ ~0:24:00 — Expresses skepticism about Jersey Jack's licensing choice

  • “Foo Fighters is a better Scooby-Doo. It out Scooby-Doo's Scooby-Doo.”

    Host @ ~0:48:00 — Comparative assessment of competing Stern releases

  • “I think Scooby-Doo out Scooby-Doo'd... It's the sum of the parts.”

    Host @ ~0:50:00 — Articulates design philosophy and evaluation framework

  • “You had your window, American Pinball. You had this little window of like three months. You should have dropped the game in December.”

    Host @ ~0:35:00 — Specific strategic criticism of American Pinball's release timing

  • “I'm going into Tuesday skeptical. I'm going into Tuesday curious. I'm going into Tuesday hopeful that Jersey Jack Pinball can at least give us a game that looks somewhere close to the price of the machine.”

Entities

Kaneda's Pinball PodcastpersonJersey Jack PinballcompanyAmerican PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyJack DangerpersonEric Meunierperson

Signals

  • ?

    announcement: The Godfather confirmed as next Jersey Jack Pinball release on Tuesday (described as 'confirmed coming out')

    high · Host states 'And now that we know it's The Godfather confirmed coming out what the seventh, what is that Tuesday, right?'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Leaked image of Galactic Tank Force playfield showing packed feature layout; host withheld from publication but possessed the asset

    high · Host states 'I did not release the leaked image I have of Galactic Tank Force' and notes it 'shows a packed playfield'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Galactic Tank Force being released in four different version/variations simultaneously

    high · Host explicitly states 'They have four versions of the game. Four! How are you going to release 4 versions of Galactic Tank Force?'

  • $

    market_signal: Significant secondary market depreciation across multiple titles; Louis Toy Story available at $11,500 (down $3,500+), Guns N' Roses collapsing in value despite premium production

    high · Host cites 'new in-box Louis Toy Story collector's Edition for $11,500' and notes Guns N' Roses experiencing price collapse

  • ?

    product_concern: Foo Fighters criticized for lacking significant mechanical innovations despite $13,000 price point; missing tractor beams, alien theft mechanics, and environment-scale builds compared to Stern's greatest hits

    medium · Host lists absent mechanics: 'There's not like one... Mech in the game' and compares unfavorably to Godzilla, Elvira, expecting mechanical features at this price

Transcript

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0:00
Alright! Here we are! Saturday morning spectacular, like I can't even, I can't even keep up. I just had to watch a Galactic Tank Force trailer, stuff's happening like as we're starting. I- we'll get- There is like too much to talk about. I don't even know like where to begin.
0:22
We'll just let people come through the door at first. We're gonna start uploading these audios as podcasts for everybody who's Who's out there in the world? Can you guys hear me okay? We got Miles in the house. We've got Kaneda in the house. We've got Arcade Innovations in the house. Let's get everybody through the door. Let's have a great Saturday morning spectacular. Let's talk about everything. And I mean, I don't, I've never seen a period like this. Nobody's ever seen a period like this. This is gonna be, like, my hat's all dusty. Dan is in the house. I'm in the house. Dan is in the house. Dana is in the house. Mark Nellis is in the house. I'm going to fix this a little bit. Armin is in the house. Mark Matt is in the house. Dan is in the house. Robert's in the house. Paul, what's up, buddy? What's up from Texas? Miles is in the house. Michael's in the house. Good morning. Diddy's Pinball Mods is in the house. Everyone's coming out of their mouse holes. Joe and Sam are in the house. Adam is in the house. Kimberlymberly, welcome. Matt, what's up brother? Dave Sanders, we are on Dave. Mr. Michael Huntsman is in the house. Patrick's here, let's do this. Paul, YoYo, Patrick, you know once we start maybe Jack Danger might join us, Mr. Pete Rosen, the star's master. Jack Danger might join us. Genghis is in the house. Will Christopher Franchi join us? I had a lot of, I had a conversation with Franchi this week. Robert is in the house. Mr. Franchi's in the house. Mr. Franchi, we're going to talk about Galactic Tank Force. We're going to talk about why Kaneda did not share We're going to talk about why we want this company to launch the game the right way. Kaneda has a heart. He doesn't want to hurt people's efforts. It's not why I'm here. I'm here to give you my opinions about their efforts. We just saw a little teaser video from Galactic Tank Force. Jeremy's in the house. Look, it is going to be a battleground For our wallets, like I've never seen before in the history of pinball. I've been covering this hobby for seven years. The fact that everyone is dropping games on top of each other. Do you want me to tell you something right now? Steve is in the house. Charles Thomas in the house. Let me tell you right now. Albert's in the house. You guys know that Pulp Fiction is now on the line at CGC as a raw thrills release. Like it's also on the line. Like Michael, what's up? Like we are about to get this. I'm just going to say this from a macro marketer, a man who knows a little bit about marketing. The re the the the everybody dropping a game at the same time in this hobby is is not smart. There's no way around it. It's not smart. It's not smart. And look, this wasn't the timing. But if you're I'm a pinball company and you need like month one sales are always the strongest right the FOMO period of sales is always your strongest period you got to avoid a stern pinball launch to launch right on top of the stern launch is it makes no sense and so and stern telegraphs usually what their plans are and they and all the distros know like Like Stern will have a game in March and a new game in I believe it's September October. Right? Because they're moving factories and not only did Stern telegraph what they were doing, they beat everybody to the punch. And so what I'm noticing now in the pinball marketplace landscape is an overabundance of new titles coming out all at the same time. All trying to get you excited. All trying to get your money. All trying to find space in your homes. And it's just not going to work for everybody. And nobody saw Foo Fighters coming out this early. Nobody saw Foo Fighters having this kind of approach. And the similarities, the similarities between three titles, Galactic Tank Force, Scooby Doo, and Foo Fighters is very, very, you know, even more difficult to differentiate I'm John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteregon The same time now for a pinball company really really difficult to win yo Daniel welcome brother so look I think we're gonna see an absolute bloodbath between all of these companies fighting it out because every single one of these companies needs to sell at least a thousand of their games to be somewhat you know breaking even on these titles and And you know now look we're going to talk about that. Let's go in order now. We have 75 people. Let's go in order of the major news. After you know look I still to this day I'm annoyed that I got scooped and I knew it was the Godfather and everybody who we we told you it was the Godfather. We've been saying it's the Godfather now for over a year, a year and a half. Everybody's been saying You know, Godfather, Godfather, Godfather, then bunch of jackasses started saying Harry Potter, John Wick, like all of these things. It's going to be this. It's going to know it's going to be Godfather. And now that we know it's Godfather confirmed coming out what the seventh, what is that Tuesday, right? We are going to see the next game from Jersey Jack Pinball. And I want to talk about that first. We are going to see Christopher Franchi's Franchi is seeing Godfather versus Christopher Franchi's Galactic Tank Force. Absolutely crazy. And Franchi has seen Godfather. And what did you tell me Christopher? You said you think Eric's game is going to be the sleeper hit of the year. I mean, look, clearly there's a lot in this game. When you look at the game from underneath, it's a spaghetti farm of cables and wires going to something. I'm going to go ahead and start the game. And which is good. Hopefully it's not just lights. But Mr. Franchi knows exactly what's in that game. I would just ask him he's here right now. Don't tell we know we know what both themes are. Which game is more loaded? Godfather or Galactic Tank Force? Maybe he'll answer. Can he? Is that fair? Is that a fair question? We'll see. We'll see if he'll answer us. But let's stay on Godfather for a minute because I want to talk about Godfather. I want to talk about all of us and collectively all of us have been saying Godfather is a very questionable theme for pinball, maybe even a terrible theme for pinball. Yet, Eric Minier is a wild card. People love and hate Eric's game. I'm going to call it like it is. There's love hate for pirates. There's love hate for guns and roses. It's been that way. And when you are an artist or a designer, it is sometimes okay to be polarizing like Kaneda because people either dig what you're doing or they don't. Nobody can avoid what Eric's done in pinball. And I think that's a great thing about Eric's designs. I also think this third game by Eric is really going to be a moment in which he can show us and prove to us that he can also make a game that's not multi-ball heavy. If I were to say like what are people wishing from an Eric Minier game, no more multi-ball heaviness. It is inescapable and I've played Guns of Roses and I love it. It is absolutely like you are flailing at too many multi-balls. Tim

  • David Fix (American Pinball) is releasing a Whitewater sequel from Deeproot Pinball after Galactic Tank Force

    medium confidence · Host states 'the next game is his Whitewater sequel from deeproot. That's what he's doing. Next' - marked as newly heard information ('Just heard it here')

  • Host received leaked image of Galactic Tank Force showing packed playfield but chose not to release it

    high confidence · Host explains 'I did not release the leaked image I have of Galactic Tank Force' and offers it to Patreon subscribers, noting it 'shows a packed playfield'

    • Host @ ~0:21:00 — Sets measured expectations for Godfather reveal

  • “The most powerful emotion you can elicit in the world of marketing is curiosity.”

    Host @ ~0:26:00 — Identifies key marketing lever for Godfather despite theme doubts

    • Christopher Franchiperson
    David Fixperson
    Foo Fightersgame
    The Godfathergame
    Galactic Tank Forcegame
    Scooby-Doogame
    Pulp Fictiongame
    Louis Toy Storygame
    Batman SLEgame
    Guns N' Rosesgame
    Godzilla Elitegame
    James Bondgame
    This Week in Pinballorganization
    Zach Sharpeperson
    Deeproot Pinballcompany
    Raw Thrillscompany
    Spooky Pinballcompany
    Chicago Gaming Companycompany
    Whitewater sequelgame
  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Scooby-Doo pre-order customers reportedly experiencing buyer's remorse due to Foo Fighters release showing superior design execution

    medium · Host states 'people who pre-ordered Scooby-Doo who are now absolutely regretting what they did' due to seeing 'more and more' gameplay showing inferior mechanics

  • ?

    design_innovation: Foo Fighters animations characterized as best ever produced by Stern Pinball; expected to win best animations at next This Week in Pinball Awards

    medium · Host claims 'it's the best animation Sam Stern Pinball has ever done in the history of Sam Stern Pinball' and predicts Twippies award win

  • ?

    business_signal: Unprecedented simultaneous release of 5-6 major titles (Foo Fighters, The Godfather, Galactic Tank Force, Scooby-Doo, Pulp Fiction, Queen) creating market saturation and FOMO deflation

    high · Host emphasizes 'overabundance of new titles coming out all at the same time. All trying to get you excited. All trying to get your attention'

  • ?

    content_signal: Major content creators (Straight Down the Middle/Zach Sharpe) pre-positioned to release analysis videos of The Godfather immediately post-reveal

    high · Host notes 'Straight Down the Middle: a pinball show has already shot their video. So you're going to see Greg and Zach Sharpe analyze the game probably next week'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: David Fix (American Pinball) reportedly avoiding media engagement and not providing press support despite launch week

    medium · Host directly addresses Fix: 'David Fix, call me up. Stop, stop ghosting Kaneda's Pinball Podcast'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Systematic $2,500+ price increases across product tiers; Foo Fighters $13,000 vs. prior Godzilla Elite $10,500 creates affordability and value perception crisis

    high · Host compares 'Foo Fighters is $2,500 more expensive than Godzilla was from a trim' and questions 'how you can say that Foo Fighters is $2,500 more expensive now'

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: Christopher Franchi artwork serving dual roles on competing manufacturers' games (The Godfather/Jersey Jack AND Galactic Tank Force/American Pinball) creates internal conflict and design differentiation challenges

    medium · Host notes Franchi 'gotta go to war against your own artist. Cuz he's gonna be on freakin' Eric Minier's The Godfather!' while working on American Pinball

    • 10:16
    Jack Pinball's mushy flipper feel. John, we're gonna talk about Galactic Tank Force, just give me a chance to get there. Okay? We're gonna talk about it.
    10:27
    But Jersey Jack's first two Eric games have real mushy flipper feel. Fixed, it's fixed, it's better with Toy Story, it's still not as good as A Stern Machine. I mean, it's just not. But here's the thing about Godfather. This slow Italian drama about a mafia family.
    10:48
    Look, here's the deal. It's a terrible theme for pinball. It shouldn't work for pinball. There's absolutely no way Godfather can become a good pinball machine, right? That's what we're all thinking. But I wanna play devil's advocate for just a little bit right here. When I read the comments on Pinsight, when I hear what people say, when I hear what my own voice is saying, there is one thing going for Godfather right now that is actually the most powerful emotion you can do in the world of marketing. And the most powerful emotion you can elicit in the world of marketing is curiosity. I'm going to be the moment of next week is we are going to see Godfather translated into pinball, a game in which anybody can play pinball. Everybody is just curious to see what JerseyJack does. It's not just that. Everybody is curious to see if JerseyJack's gonna load their games up again after Toy Story was an abysmal failure. I don't want to go down that road, but Toy Story was one of the biggest jokes ever in the history of pinball launches. JerseyJack has blocked me and banned me from their Facebook pages. I got in a back and forth with Ken Cromwell because I made fun of Pat Lawler. and told me to grow up Woods any and Anyway, Like total joke you want to charge us $15,000 for that pinball machine. Again,
    13:03
    Toy Story is gonna be just like James Vaughn. It is totally gonna be forgotten now that we have the next Jersey Jack game. Okay, we've got the next Jersey Jack game. Toy Story sales are just gonna plummet. And for those of you saying Guns N' Roses sales are plummeting. Okay, let me tell you this. Okay? Let me tell you this. Of course Guns N' Roses sales are going south. They made so many, okay? They made so many. There is no way a Guns N' Roses LE can hold any value. There's no way. There's so many of them. There's so many with busted playfields. There's just, and people just had their fix of GNR. So there's absolutely no way a Guns N' Roses pinball machine is gonna hold that much value two and a half years later. Right. Two and a half years later, it's just not going to work. So I think what Guns and Roses is showing people. You're going to lose money on almost every game you buy now. You're going to lose money. You might lose two to $3,000. And again, that's why when you buy a pinball machine, you should play it two to 3,000 times. Because if you play your pinball machine two to 3,000 times, you haven't lost two to $3,000. That is it is that simple. But for you collectors out there that put 200 plays on your games and then sell it for a $3,000 loss, you absolutely are making no sense to anybody. Like play your freaking games. I don't understand. If you have a brand new pinball machine, I would put 50 plays on it easily in just a few hours on the first weekend I owned it. So how can you own a pinball machine? Alright, first of all, just let me put a pin in this. A Batman SLE just sold this past week for $30,000. Okay, 30,000. So like, buying Batman SLE for $25,000 was a good buy. So all of you Batman SLE, Kaneda, you're a hypocrite. No, you don't get it. I bought, I bought a machine for 25k that will never sell for less than that. I didn't get ripped off. The market has spoken. Stern is never going to make only 80 SLEs of anything ever again. So Jersey Jack's Tuesday is going to be the thing. It's going to be the thing. And I'm excited to see it. I'm going into Tuesday skeptical. I'm going into Tuesday curious. I'm going into Tuesday hopeful that Jersey Jack Pinball can at least give us a game that looks somewhere close to the price of the machine because the other big part is this. The other big part is this. If they charge $12,000 to $15,000 for Godfather, here's the problem with the launch of the game, though. Like, I don't know how you go in on a Godfather CE. You notice we haven't got in like the Jersey Jack obligatory video. Oh, here's your best chance of securing a CE on Tuesday. We're not hearing any of that this time. And I mean it when I say it. I would not buy whatever they show us next week. And I'll tell you why. I wouldn't buy anything until April. And I've been saying this on my show. I'll say it to you guys right now. I don't care if it's Scooby Doo, if it's Foo Fighters, if it's Godfather, Galactic Tank Force, Pulp Fiction, Queen, Scott Denise's new game. Why would you buy anything right now? You are not gonna have a hard time getting anything. And I mean this, anything if you wait to April. And if you run in, cause here about, like if you, here's what's gonna happen. If you go and you buy Godfather Collector's Editions for 15,000, here's what you have to do. You have to put a $2,500 non-refundable deposit down on the game. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you just wait a couple months and see where the market ends up on the, there's no way they're gonna sell 1,000 CE's at 15K. No way. And then what's gonna happen is they're gonna start selling for less than 15,000. And you don't have to have a non-refundable deposit. You don't have to have, you don't have to lose money if you don't want the gain. Let me tell everybody what's going on with Toy Story. If you waited, right, if you waited, If you really wanted a Toy Story, if you waited, you now can buy a new in box Toy Story collector's Edition for $11,500. It's almost saving yourself four grand. You don't even have to pay tax. You just give, you show up to the distributor with 11 five cash and the things in the back of your freaking truck. If you just waited, there's no FOMO around any, any of these games. You know, Foo Fighters brought some FOMO back. How long it will last, we will see. I mean, guys, I'm going to tell you, I got invited by Dodge to go to their Last Call Roadkill event in Vegas, March 20th. Dodge invited me as a demon owner. And the rumor is, because I held onto my demon for five years and didn't sell it, that the last car might be a demon I'm going to be a red eye with a thousand horsepower and I might get one of the first chances to buy it directly from Dodge. So I'm flying into Vegas. Event is March 20th. Yours truly will be there front row with his demon owner VIP seat and I will find out if I get a chance to buy the car and of course I'm going to buy it. Is there no sound? Alright. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. I would just wait and see. I think if you wait and see, you're going to be in a better position to make a wa- Look, we have 109 people here. This is great. This is great. We have more people watching this show than we ever have before. Um, let me talk about- I'm gonna, I'm gonna jump around a little bit. I'm gonna jump around a little bit. Here's the thing. Um, Godfather, boom. Hitting us next week. All you Harry Potter people, what the hell were you doing? Christopher Franchi's artwork is going to crush it. Straight down the middle has already shot their video. So you're going to see Greg and Zach analyze the game probably next week. You're going to get one of those like good 10, usually 20 minute deep dive videos into the game. I've heard Franchi's artwork is absolutely killer. I heard he might actually just make the game. It might even just be so beautiful that you want to based on the art. But let's see what happens. I'm not sure what happens and I think, you know, let's go on to Galactic Tank Force. Franchi, we're going to talk like, look, this isn't good news. This is not good news for American Pinball. They're going to be last out of the gate. They needed to show Galactic Tank Force today, not a teaser of the animations. And I just saw the teaser of the animations. It's like the video spends more time telling us scorebit is part of the game. It doesn't show us much. And I'm sorry, American Pinball. You can't do this. You're showing people less than anybody else. You need to show more to get people excited about this original IP game. And now you're going to launch this game after Spoofighters. You're going to launch it after Jersey Jack Pinball. You can't be last. You don't have matrix. You don't have back to the food. You don't have enough to be last.
    21:25
    That was actually game animation. So, so now, okay, Franchi, now that's confusing because people think that's what the game animations are going to look like. An Do you tell me it not game animations so are the game animations better than that because that looks really cool and people are excited about it And so now you got confusion You know when we saw Foo fighters what did they show us They showed us the actual animations of the game I don understand like so now you gotta tease out That everyone thinks this is what the animations are gonna be very comic book style and it not that I
    22:16
    Just you can't do it like this Like and and David Fix is gonna drop off games at Jack bar. It's happening following Saturday
    22:30
    But not but it's from the game but not the LCD screen, okay, so now that's a piece of artwork In the meantime, I'm not going to be interested in what you're saying, but I do believe that you're a fan of the sport. It's something that would be interesting to hear. But I do believe that it would be interesting to hear what you're saying, and it's something that I'm not going to be interested in. You see what I'm saying, man? You see what I'm saying is I'm trying to help. And look, I did not release the leaked image I have of Galactic Tank Force. And I told people, I told people, if they renew their subscriptions to Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, I would give it like, okay, I get it. And then I reached out to Mr. Fix and Mr. Franchi and said, look, you know, like the game's coming out in two weeks. I actually think me leaking the image would have been helpful for them because it shows a packed playfield. It just does. Like, it's at least something to make you wait on buying, you know, Foo Fighters or Godfather, if you will. But you know, I do feel they worked really hard on this game. Norman worked really hard on this game. I think you should get to see it the way they want you to see it. Yeah, no French. I agree. You know, so like, I just think like, they've been holding back too much. And and here's what I think. And I'm just gonna say this. I think Nordman and David Fix 150% miscalculated what was going to happen. Okay. I think Fix miscalculated that Foo Fighters would hit when it did. I think no, I think Fix completely completely got blindsided by what's just happened. And now he's got to release a game after the two biggest pinball juggernaut companies in the world. And he thought he was going to release a game like American Pinball should have released Galactic Tank Force when everybody was complaining and moaning about James Bond, about the lack of assets, about the crappy mechs in the game, about the embarrassing 60th anniversary. You had your window, American Pinball. I'm just going to say this. You had your window when everybody was unsatisfied with James Bond. You needed to get your game out. You had that window. You had this little window of like three months. You should have dropped the game in December. You would have sold so many of them because nothing else was available that people wanted. James Bond people had empty coded games. James Bond 60th is a joke. You've got Scooby Doo, but not and Scoobydoo arguably doesn't have a lot in it from a from a Mets standpoint. You've got So you got this game and you waited too long. And now you gotta fight against your own dude. You gotta go to war against your own artist. Cuz he's gonna be on freakin' Eric Meunier's Godfather! And you can't, like, they just, what the heck were you doin'? This is what I don't get. Nobody was buying Legends of Vahalla. So what were you doing all this time? And you needed to get it out earlier. And I think what's going to happen is I think Galactic Tank Force is going to run into a Foo Fighters buzzsaw. I just don't, I, if there's any game, people are going to just wait. And you know what also I heard? And again, David Fix, call me up. Stop, stop ghosting Kaneda. They're coming out. Are you wait, are you ready for this? They have four This week's topic about the game, it is the top 4 versions of the game. Four! How are you going to release 4 versions of Galactic Tank Force? Four variations. Like what is going on over there? The only time you can release 4 versions of something, is if there is so much demand that you can slice it up like that. Like Metallica can do that, Elvira can do that, Batman can do that, Ghostbusters can do— You can't release four variations of original IP game about tanks fighting in space saving the ice cream. Yeah, that's part of the theme is save the ice cream. They just need to get it together. But I don't know if they don't hit this one out of the park. Because Norman's next game. Norman's next game is his whitewater sequel from Deep Root. That's what he's doing. Next, I mean all that work he did at Deep Root on his Whitewater sequel, that's what's after Galactic Tank Force. Just heard it here. Is that an exclusive? Well, we didn't talk about Slash on Godfather Music. People do like ice cream. People do like ice cream. But look, I just think American Pinball made it more difficult on themselves. I think American Pinball completely misread the market. And I think Foo Fighters absolutely got in front of everybody. And I think Foo Fighters looks really cool. It looks like a lot of fun. Let's talk about Foo Fighters a little bit because I haven't done, you know, Saturday morning since we saw the streams. I didn't watch the pro stream yet. I don't really care. I saw enough with the LE stream of the game. Happy Stern streamed the LE first. Workout Day, orn.official.wLERN.iz CombreakTV, Okay, you ready?
    28:47
    Foo Fighters is a better Scooby-Doo. It out Scooby-Doo Scooby-Doo. I'm gonna talk about that, but what I like about Foo Fighters is this.
    28:56
    They made a decision to make not a music pin, but a pin that's basically like Raza meets Scooby-Doo, you know, meets like campy 80s Saturday morning cartoons. Okay, so I think Scooby-Foo, thank you Mr. Franchi, I think Scooby-Doo got out Scooby-Doo'd. The thing about, here's the thing about Foo Fighters gang, it's the sum of the parts. It's the sum of the parts. You know people always say Guns N' Roses has no mechs in it and I always say it's the sum of the parts. Does the game accomplish what it's trying to do in its theme integration and delivery? And I think Foo Fighters absolutely does. I think it's one of the most beautiful looking Stern machines from the playfield itself. I think it's beautiful. I think the scopes are fun. I think the way that I think it's the best animation Stern Pinball has ever done in the history of Stern Pinball. I think Foo Fighters is going to win best animations at next year's Twippies and it's going to be probably one of the first time Jersey Jack Pinball does not win best animations. I think the okay, but let me let me go over everything. Do I think Foo Fighters for this much money could have had, you know, major mech in it that yes, like let me let me give you an example. I got it. You got an alien, you got tractor beams, you got like, you know, getting in. I still think like there could have been like a disappearing magnet, you know, where like the alien space ship like steals your ball. I, I, I don't. There's not like one. Wow, wow, wow. Mecca in the game, right? There's no Godzilla building. There's no, you know, Slimer. There's no. I think when people look at some of Stern's greatest games, there's no Elvira House. That being said, the flow looks great. The shots look super fun. There's a lot happening in the game. And again, it's the sum of the parts. You put together the theme, the animations, the shots, the deadpost, what's in it, the layout, and you put it all together and you package it up and it's a damn, damn impressive offering from Stern and Jack Danger and Zombietti and Tano and Ray Day and all these guys. Now, okay. Okay. Look, look, and I know people are comparing it to Godzilla. This is the problem now in all the pinball. This is the problem in all of pinball. Godzilla Ellie was $10,500 right Godzilla Ellie. It was easy to get. I got one, I got two. It was $10,500. And look at what's in Godzilla LE. And this is the problem with pinball. Foo Fighters is $2,500 more than Godzilla was from an LE trim. They don't want us to remember any of that. And you know, look, I love Jack's game. But I'm just seeing these $13,000 now. And I'm like, I just don't see how you can say that Foo Fighters is $2,500 more expensive now than Godzilla.
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    And other shows don't wanna talk about it like this. They wanna sell you what you're seeing in front of your eyes. They wanna blind you with beautiful artwork. They wanna blind you with great animations. But 2500 more.
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    It's just not. It's just not making people feel great. And now this is like everything is just going to keep going up.
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    And I just don't. I don't feel good about any of these prices now. I don't. And I just think like when you see it and people start to sort of, you know, You get an immediate when I say again, when you get past the one day, I gotta have it now FOMO, right? It's usually 24 hours. You can wake up two days later. And you're like, I'll just wait. I'll wait. I'll wait. Do I think there's going to be Foo Fighter? Ellie's available? Yes. Do I think Jersey Jack is going to sell a I'm not going to be able to get a thousand Godfather CEs at 15K. Absolutely no way. The other thing is this. Do I think there are a lot of people now who pre-ordered Scooby-Doo who are now absolutely
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    regretting what they did and I'll tell you why they're regretting it. We're seeing more and more Scooby-Doo gameplay, right? More and more and we're seeing it by better players.
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    It looks nowhere near as good as like Foo Fighters. It looks a little bit, shall I say, not as exciting. Let me use the negatives of positive words. It looks like it's not as, there's not as many mechanisms, you know? And I think what's happened is, you know, people are looking at the animations in Spooky's Machine. They're looking at like the total package. And they're realizing that maybe, maybe we're all starting to wake up from the coma that a Scooby-Doo with butter cabinet invoiced to your door is $13,000.
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    So we'll see. No, but Michael, here's the thing. Here's the thing. The reason why I just wouldn't have pre-ordered a Scooby-Doo is we're going to start to see more and more and then you're gonna be able to get it for less than it was new. And you're also, the reason why Scooby Doo prices are gonna go down is because of Foo Fighters. The reason why James Bond prices are gonna go down is because of Foo Fighters. Again, all you gotta do is wait and see. And I'm, gang, I mean it when I say it. Like do you buy every new car the day it gets launched? Do you buy every new watch when a watch gets released into the world? If you here's here's the best news for everybody.
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    If everybody waits, everybody gets their games for less other than the early adopters. Let the early adopter rich guys buy everything right away. Totally. The early adopter rich men, they can swoop in and buy everything right away. Let them. Let them buy it. Let them put these games in their mansions, put less than 200 plays on them, and then you can buy it for like $1,500 less. And then you're not spending $2,000 on a cardboard box. These games are treated, they treat these games better than their wives. We know this. We know this. You guys all know this. You know what I'm saying? They spoil these games more than their children. These are like museum pieces. They never play them, the rich collectors. Trickledownpinball is right. Look, that's just my approach to it. I think that's where we're at. Look, and also, gang, I've been covering this hobby for seven years. I've never seen it where almost everyone's going to lose thousands of dollars in just one year of ownership. That's going to slow down the FOMO buying too. Because gang, come on. It's not like all of these games coming out are your dream themes bolted to the floor. Like John Ehrlich's never going to sell Foo Fighters because he loves Foo Fighters.
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    Foo Fighters has a foil decal cabinet. I'm not talking about the foil, but it's not like the 3D one. I'm buying but not thinking. Billy, you're not, look, for you guys out there whose checking accounts have eight figures, and you know who you are, for you guys out there with your, you know, eight, nine figure, and there's some of you, eight, nine figures, man, for some of you guys out there, I'm not talking to you. You can do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want. You shouldn't even be here right now. You know what gives me pride? That me and my one bedroom apartment in New York City has people that are worth like tens and hundreds of millions of dollars. They're giving me their time. I get more pride from that than anything that So now I found a way to you. You have deemed me valuable enough to spend 90 minutes of your precious Saturday morning here. That's the greatest achievement of my life.
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    You know, like you guys have so much money. You could be on. You could be business classing into Tokyo right now. You could be doing you could be eating, you know, foie gras and an O Toro for breakfast. But here you are. And your wives and your partners and your kids are like, why are you listening to this jackass again? Cuz you're bored. Cuz you're bored cuz money's boring. Money is only fun when you're spending stuff or getting excited about the next thing. Alright, so look, to summarize, Godfather on Tuesday, let's talk about Slash. Slash is absolutely gonna be in this game. Slash does the Godfather solo every time he does his guitar solo at Guns N' Roses concerts. He's a huge fan of the Godfather. I fully expect her to be a Slash Godfather solo integrated into the game somehow. The big questions for Godfather, other than like what the heck's gonna be in it, are they gonna get clips from the movie? Are they gonna have muted clips? Will they have voice, the actors' voices? Will they get Al Pacino to do callouts because Slash is friendly with Al Pacino? All of this stuff. Is it going to be just Godfather 1? Will it be Godfather 1 and 2? Please don't put Godfather 3 in it. So that's where we're at. That's where we're at. Okay? Money does not buy happiness, people. The happiest people...well, you need a little bit of money, though. You can't be happy broke. You can't. You can't be...how can you be happy broke? You'd be stressed out every day. Now you don't need a lot. You just need enough where you don't have to think about it every day.
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    It's only Godfather 4. Someone said like the dumbest thing on pin side like it's an all original Godfather adventure. I'm like are you serious? Are you serious? Now, but Albert, you're not broke. You just live within your means. And Albert, that's the difference. You live within your means. You live where you can afford. And you get by that way. You're not like Albert. You're much happier than someone who lives in a multimillion dollar house that's over mortgaged, is underwater financially terribly, is in a huge amount of debt, and who just lost their job because they thought they were going to work into their 70s and they got forced into early retirement. Yay, Hanes yukaijin? So we're total pimples, but hey, I'll name a couple of them. I wanna brag at these five straight headshots. I need you to talk about myself right now, all right? We're gonna keep it short and 이제 우리가 gonna figure out week one is your scene and then we're gonna go over to the show. I wanna ask you all in a cooked birch church and I wanna ask you how you go about your day except for aones and my nineties. So I'm gonna walk your back, I'm gonna ask you some dirty, I'm not gonna take that for se service before I do the TV and then we say we go into a count day late Sunday night on Friday night on show, I like, that's it. I have cash flow every month enough to buy a Batman SLE stupidly. What am I doing? You know, I'll tell you this, like, it's stupid. Like when I bought Batman SLE, I should have just put the 25,000 into meta stock when it was $86 a share. Now it's 186. I would have made, turned 25 into 50, pay some capital gains tax on that in a year and you know, walked away like a smart grown adult Or just buy a bunch of pinball machines we don't need. What are you doing Kaneda? This is your whole topic.
    43:16
    Oh, alright. Let's do this people. What else are we forgetting? I don't know. Um The Scooby Doo streams man. Have you guys seen these Scoobydoo streams?
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    Let me ask you guys a question. Cuzpan, I just want to make a comment. When Scooby Doo themselves, when Scoobydoo, when Spooky themselves, when they stream their own game at their own factory, the game they made and it looked slow and it looked floaty and it looked easy, They then, days later, said they didn't set their game up at the right pitch. Do you believe that? Do you actually buy that excuse? That the company who made the game who streaming it for the entire world for the first time Set it up wrong
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    They don't know how to set up their own game. Knowing that everyone was going to go off of that. Huh?
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    Huh? They're not the engineers, Craig. It's Bog and Luke and all of them. It's everyone who designed the game. Hey guys, is the pitch right? Maybe we shouldn't, it looks a little, and also, here's what I don't get. If they were playing the game they've been working on for all this time, wouldn't they be the first people to notice, hey, it's playing a little slow? Hey, it's playing a little floaty. Wouldn't they be the first people to catch that? Like what's going on here?
    45:22
    This is why Kaneda's Pinball Podcast is a thing. It's like, you know, it's like, well, you know, we're here to celebrate everything pinball. Let's talk about how irrelevant the topics at the Twippies are going to be this year. Let's talk about that. Are we really gonna sit in a room and celebrate Rush Pinball? I need to get my cargo shorts tournament back up, people. I know I've been so busy this week, so much else has been happening. The cargo shorts, I might have to skip the Elite Eight and get right to the Final Four and just bump the four cargo shorts that got the most votes to the Final Four for you to vote because I need time to get these cargo shorts. I need to book my flights to Texas. I need to call Perry's Steakhouse and secure the happy hour, the Canadian happy hour on Friday. Not gonna lie, so much is just happening that like I haven't really been focused on TPF yet. Clint, why isn't the cargo short joke funny? Does anyone else think my cargo short I think it's funny. All these grown men just in cargo shorts. Like why that's, that's like the uniform of the pinball guy.
    47:08
    Anyone who takes the cargo short joke seriously or is offended by it. And if you wear cargo shorts, I think everybody, the Kaneda army, we should wear as many. What's witchisoing? I'm here to playninevic,com choosespinballltry deviation. Hey Knapp! Question Collection, what do you think of making pop-up surveys? Obviously, I think you pamper all the playastics. I will not fuck with people and give them requests. What I'm saying is that, I will say this. The thing is this.
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    People have a good heart. You want to see American pinball released the right way. But here's what was funny. Someone was like,
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    because like 36% of people said release the photo. Someone wrote, if you don't release the photo, 36% of people are going to leave your subscription.
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    And I'm like, are they? Like where are they gonna go? Why would they leave because of that? It's not like I've been misleading you guys all these years.
    48:37
    You know, it's been funny. Everyone's now asking for Patreon support. Have you noticed that? Like legit. I want to congratulate Pinball Party, Jason, on the Patreon train now. Congrats. You know, everyone made fun of me. You know, Jason has seven subscribers. Seven! So, you know, I think if Jason did what he said he was going to do at the beginning, which was fill the weekly void with PinballNews, I'm here with Pinball News. Now we have the new guy filling the weekly void for free. You know, you guys have heard Don's Pinball Podcast. I mean, look, I think that's what, that's the way to go. That is the way to go. It's like Don is on it. He's always hitting when it's timely and he knows the sweet spot. Gang, gang, much like pinball prices, the notion of like 90 minutes, two hour shows, two freaking hours of I'm covering off in the most entertaining and energetic way with the best pinball podcast I've ever done and they're 25 minutes at most now. 20 minutes, like 20 to 25 minutes at most is all you need. Like why are we interviewing people? Like it's just so funny to me what it's all turned into. Like what do you think about this? What do you think about it, Bob? What do you think about it, Joel? What do you think about it, Craig? What do you think about? What do you think about? What the fuck? Just one person who nails the POV. Just tell us what you think about it.
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    Everyone's still like celebrating. I mean it's all very positive. Yeah it's great, it's great, it's great, it's great, it's great, it's great, it's great.
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    Yeah but Joe Rogan is making $200 million interviewing some of the world's most interesting personalities. Now this is the most interesting part.
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    They don't, I mean, this is just such a digression that took this right before people evenosis happened and hardcoreboxes happened. Okay, crazy not a show to pick up, but I gotta say it's شي- These guys are какой surtoutordan große エseatweet акс да 굳аз No, it's what everybody says. I mean, look, the long form stuff when you guys are commuting, when you're mowing the lawns, when you're like, I get it, I get it. But you always have to get through so much stuff to get to this stuff. Albert, I love you, brother. I know Albert's around the one hour mark. Like Albert, Albert, you can do an hour with like with with just like a static image dropped of galactic tank force treads and Albert would be on there for an hour. An hour. I mean, Albert, I get that you like Foo Fighters. I'm not gonna listen to an hour of how you like the band. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it, brother. I'll buy your coffee.
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    I'll come on your show after the Twippies, but I can't take an hour of somebody telling me how they like the Foo Fighters. Two times the speed.
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    What's up, Flip Stevens? Um, you know what's crazy gang is like, how the heck is Pulp Fiction gonna get dropped into the middle of this, this moment? A single level, Pulp Fiction now has a ramp. Alright, you know what I want to do right now? I want to have a moment. Can we have a moment of silence? Can we have a moment of silence everybody? Let's do it. Let's do my Kaneda G-Shock. This is a Tetsuo one. No, yeah, it's Tetsuo. Let's do a moment of silence everybody. 30 seconds. Actually, let's do it for 60 seconds. I'm going to ask everybody, please don't chat. Please don't type. Please don't do anything when I start the stopwatch. Let me take this off. This is a cool watch. It's got the Neo Tokyo, Akira. I'm going to do, let me figure out where is the stopwatch. Where is that? Okay.
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    Stopwatch. How do I start it? Hold on. There we go. All right. Alright. Sorry again. Okay, we're gonna do 60 seconds. I'm gonna do it here. I have it at four seconds. So we're gonna go to a minute for five seconds. I want you guys 60 seconds of silence, please nobody. Please have some respect for these people. Please have some respect. 60 seconds of silence for all the fools that bought James Bond 60th and nobody cares anymore and the games are going to be delivered next week and no one cares because everything else coming out makes it look like the biggest joke and cash grab in pinball history. So let's do 60 seconds of silence for these grown men who clearly they needed help. They needed an intervention. Let's do it. The game's joke for $20,000 is the biggest joke in pinball history. Let's do it. Hold on a second. Ready? No one type. 60 seconds. obec música very large inantha, I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen, you buyers out there. I'm sorry what you did. If you had thought about your purchase for just 60 seconds. It's just funny. No one cares. Like, can you see the incredible shrinking interest in James Bond now? Like, nobody cares. Nobody cares at all. And I'm glad. I'm glad people like don't care. I'm glad nobody's gonna be envious when you unbox this game and a Foo Fighters pro for a third the price is ten times better. It's good. You're all gonna own some. No one's gonna be envious. Cauchy, transcivil, ятConnell Roose, And now you do as most on my page every time you're here. Now I got you here Ben. Ben can I ask you a serious question why are you here? Are you having fun? Always complaining about everything I say and write. I'm just curious, cause now that I got you, can't hide. Can't hide with your snarky posts. Where else would you go Ben? Where else would you go? What other page would you go to? I'm on the background and you're working hard. You're working hard finding the and you're finding it. What do you do for work brother? Come on. Ben, I know you're not a fan of me. I know you come on and just complain about everything I say every day. Ben Crane again with the sassy. You're a surgeon. Wait, you're at work as a surgeon watching Canadian Spinball Podcast. Okay. That doesn't seem very I'm responsible. But no, Ben, serious, serious question. Do you like my content or are you annoyed by it? Like I'm just curious because I guess because I'm very, I'm very lenient on the trolls on my page, but I'm just curious because I'm not sure with you, brother. I'm not sure where you're at. Yeah, I just I don't get it. This is so I entertain you. Are you a fan?
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    Are you a fan or are you not, Ben? Let's ask direct questions. Are you a fan of the show or not? You make an ass of yourself sometimes, but it's fun to watch. OK.
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    OK. And he's a fan. Alright, alright. Todd Tucky's in that. Well look, we used to bring Todd Tucky on. Well Ben, I'm glad I can amuse you and entertain you. And honestly bro, you're a doctor, thank you. It's a very admirable profession and I have a lot of respect for the medical community. It's like, should I do my Joe Pesci, like what, like I make you laugh like I'm a clown? Like what, like... I'm excited though. I don't know about the rest of you, but like there's there's so much happening in the next three weeks that all of us are gonna just have our pinball collective minds blown by just the amount of options. There will be winners and losers. Todd Tucky's in the house. Todd! Gabriel Pintastic. September. Gabe! I love you Gabe! Gabe just hired a Foo Fighter band. Gabe, it's hard to talk about September now, bro. It's freaking March. Okay? It's too early to hype the September show. I think it was a smart move getting a Foo Fighters cover band. I think that's going to be a good, a good relevant band to have there. Franchi, man. Let's ask Franchi. Franchi, you want to come on? Franchi, which game do you think is going to be more successful? Godfather or Galactic Tank Force? I mean, Godfather's gonna be... I just think, I just can't see Godfather being more successful than Toy Story and Toy Story wasn't successful at all. I just have such a hard time with the theme. I just have such a hard time with the theme. I, I, you know, makes me curious. It makes me interested to see what they can do. I can, let me just say this though. Let me say this though. Jersey Jack's marketing department. Alright, I know they hate me. They hate my guts. They ask me to grow up. So let me act like a baby for a little bit. Because I'm not going to grow up, Ken. Ken, I don't want to grow up. I want to be a Toys R Us kid. Okay? 46 years old. Not growing up. If I'm this way at 46, Ken, I'm going to be this way probably for the rest of my life. Okay? I'm not going to grow up. Jersey Jack marketing department. Jersey Jack Marketing Department.
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    Can you come up with a new idea? Are you able to come up with a new strategy? Like you did the same thing again. You do designer standing next to the game upside down and then you do a teaser pic. Then you reveal the title and that's all you ever do and then we're gonna get that overly polished video You can go to this page and just like that, I'm not going to play any more PinballBoth, that's it. Like, there's never a different approach. I don't, like just, they should have done something more with Godfather. I mean it. Godfather, it's just not a take my money now, throw money at it theme. And I just, I don't know, I feel like a lot of JJP's mojo and swagger is gone since Toy Story and there's nothing else. I don't know. I don't know. Like they but like nobody expected Foo Fighters to come out when it did. It's gonna it's gonna it's gonna it's just like there's only so much money you can you can you can take from the market. All the people that ordered all the people that ordered Foo Fighters are they they're not going to go buy Godfather. They can't go buy all you. I don't know. What all of you do for a living, but I guarantee most of you are not going to want to drop 30 grand on two pinball machines In a one month period when taxes are due
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    Does anyone else feel that way you make that much really all of you $30,000 in one month that's 60,000 before taxes. That's a 1 million dollar salary year. Maybe maybe maybe you guys are that rich Do you remember the good old days when you could get three Stern LEs for $21,000? Three Stern LEs you could get for $21,000 that went up in value, that had more in them. Remember when Godzilla LE was $10,500? Now the premium is that much money. Remember those days? Remember those good old days? I'm really excited to see Godfather. I'm really excited to play it. But man, I don't know how they are going to come out and say a thousand at 15,000 to pop for. And now the problem with Jersey Jack now is the LEs are too much money. Jersey Jack LEs are like, they're like lead balloons. I mean, if you look at what's happening with Kriss girdate. ine
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    n 8 I got that. Theibly n I don't know how you like. I mean, you can go get a Guns N' Roses Ellie now for eight grand. Eight grand. And that's and that's not the bottom. A year from now, Guns N' Roses Ellie's will be in the $7,000 range.
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    And the game's never gonna change. This is the other thing, gang. It'd be one thing if you had to buy it because there was some exclusive. Like, here's the other part that is so crazy. If you're going to try to charge premiums between LEs and Pros and CEs and LEs, right, a large premium, then you need to start putting software specific exclusivity Alright so now they going to send us 10 The The So the people buying the Foo Fighter LE have some sort of like justification for its uniqueness on a code level It like the Area 51 multiball should not be available on the pro version of the game It like they absolutely won give you anything experientially different You've got to find a way to make the people who spend the most. When I get on an airplane and I'm first class, which is how I'm flying to Vegas because Kaneda likes to party, the experience is so different. We're all on the same plane. The LE guy and the premium guy are all playing the same exact game. But I get champagne the moment I'm on. I get to board first. I get a delicious meal. I get this. Everything is an experiential difference. And yet if I spend $3,000 more on a pinball machine, I don't get anything of real value. It's a bunch of armor and stickers and plaques. You don't even get a topper usually that's better. The physical ball lock. And John, what did they do? The coma mode. The coma mode. I'm a physical ball lock mode should have been a collector's edition only mode. You know, like give those 500 people something that's unique. That's just how I feel about it, gang. It's like at these prices now, these companies need to start really rethinking what the value proposition is. It is telltale that we are not seeing Jersey Jack Pinball tell us our best shot at getting a CE is doing this. Trust me gang, don't lock in your money. I lost $2,000 on a Toy Story CE. $2,000. Let me give you my story.
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    Look, I didn't want the game. I gave my money to my distributor before seeing the game. I gave a $2,000 deposit. When I saw the game, I wanted my money back, but I was told I already gave the money. The funny part is my distributor, I love him, he's like, dude, the deposit was supposed to be $2,500. I'm like, I am absolutely not giving you another 500 bucks. I know, I don't want the game. Once I saw Toy Story, I was like, I'm out. I lost $2,000, okay? So look, I sold the game to someone for 14,000. So I lost a thousand bucks. Somebody bought my game for 14, I got out, I lost $1,000. I lost $2,000 on Ultraman. I'm never doing this again. Ever. Day one, unless it's the ultimate dream theme of my life, like Top Gun or Big Trouble in Little China or Fifth Element or Transformers G1 or Atira, why would I gamble my money when history has now shown us that every single person that has waited and saw what would be has saved themselves money? It's just that simple. Now the distributors want you to look or go back and look at Stranger Things LE or Godzilla. Yeah, I get it. But times have changed. Stranger Things LE was $8,000, 8500. It wasn't 13,000 and they didn't make a thousand of them. The fact that they increased the volume with everything is also the biggest joke ever. They took away your rarity. They took away your scarcity. They took away your exclusivity and then they charged you twice as much. Again, let's use the airplane analogy. Imagine if they doubled the size of the first class compartment, right? So no longer feels like exclusive because half the plane is first class. And then they charged you 40% more money to sit there. Imagine if they did that. So there's a reason why, Ben, I'm glad I got you Finally buddy, there's a reason why they kind of took advantage of us.
    71:28
    Look guys, 30 seconds where the stars at we got no stars. I've been spitting truth bombs for over an hour over an hour 320 stars.
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    Um... Alright. I see how it goes. You're saving your money. You gotta save your money. See, this is the problem. The high prices are now impacting Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. My livelihood is under attack. How dare you pinball companies attack my livelihood by raising the prices of these games so much that my fanbase can't even find any money anymore to donate stars to the show. My livelihood is under attack. You know, it's not fair. Like what am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to buy Brenda like sushi dinner tonight if I don't get at least 10,000 stars? This is ridiculous. Your companies are attacking my livelihood. All the livelihood babies are the best. Like come on. People in expensive homes crying about livelihoods.
    72:53
    Well, thank you for the $5 a month. I actually appreciate everybody's contributions. Look, the Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, I think the shows have been better than ever before.
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    Franchi, you know better than anybody, man. Ain't no money to be made in merchandise. Ain't no money to be made.
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    Like there ain't no money to be made in any of that stuff. Like it's just, it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
    73:31
    Ah, all right. Now let me ask you guys a question. For those of you who, I was thinking about uploading the audio. In the audio, Bill Brandt is you cheap son of a bitch. Did he just give 10 stars? Who's Dave? Yeah, Franchi, it was the same way, man. When I did like merchandise, like I thought everybody would want it. They always, everyone says they want merchandise and then you, then you drop a merch line and you barely sell anything. And I was like, I'm not doing all of this work for, for this. Like it Subtitles by the Amara.org community I've had a really good time. You know, I don't pay attention to anything else. I enjoy this. We've been getting great, great people following. We get about a thousand and a half people watching every Saturday Morning Spectacular. It's been an exciting time to cover the hobby. We've all got stuff to talk about.
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    You know, I really do appreciate everybody who subscribes to the show. It's absolutely such a pleasure, you know, a couple of times a week. Thank you for the stars, Troy. It's a pleasure every week doing a few podcasts and hitting right when the news is happening. And I think Michael Huntsman, you...
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    Michael Huntsman's like staring down right now, like half a million dollar pinball collection giving me 10 cents.
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    Yeah, I know what you guys do. I know how you roll. Thank you for the four bucks. Look, my advice to everybody is simply this. Enjoy this. Enjoy the time we have together. Enjoy the time we have this new golden age of pinball. It's not going to last forever. I've been thinking about this a lot. How fragile this markets, because these are too many companies, subject to artist� sniper shёнyeo Life is, how fragile this market is going to become because there are too many companies, frigged sinus, ago, there were too many companies making games that are not going to be able to find continued buyers, Stern's going to clobber almost everybody. Sie luego Boo, Trant reun ficouayı altrui stopσε々 instanzi Ulitsa limpa estoy en hanno Task precisely to mobile link to �ja le आउ injupiologically the head of the game which is used to sell 계 swinging, Finaleisiklemarktmiya¬. I think this going to be Minsk
    76:25
    But we area gr yeșìlä titət časi'niŬ agora AM héli Stjálman csak n marchșea nemegsceliñaぁ I think pinball is going to be a good run over the next few years of pinball. I think we have a lot of themes out there that are still untapped. Some of them might just be real difficult to get from a licensing standpoint. I think the community, I think pin size become more and more relevant and I actually like seeing that. I think between Knapp's Arcade, there's a lot of great content being made all across the pinball space. I think there's so many more positive, fun and engaging places to go than pinball. I'm here at Pinside to just enjoy the hobby and I mean it. And even when I go on Pinside now, it's just like, it's every thread turns into a dumpster fire of the same like 50 people complaining about everything or slapping each other back and forth. This is fun. There's a lot of good content happening all over pinball right now. Like Joel's like, he does his like talk show. Was it like flipping out talk show thing he does? Lot of, that's fun. I love the Joel and Travis and those guys are a lot of fun to listen to. Genghis has got his stuff, you know, Arnold giving us reviews from Denmark and you know, arguably like questionable his understanding of this great hobby. I'm just messing with you. But it's fun like it this stuff is fun. It's a much needed distraction. You know, there's so much other stuff happening. And again, I continue to find so much enjoyment in the the observation of what's happening I'm going to be talking about the best time for a pinball consumer because we have all these options. Nothing's going to sell out at these prices and these volumes and all of these companies are going to have to test to that. They're going to test the market. There'll berez at theuur team will bananas as host to play fixture parent,ounterériati diseveryday estar dishwith the As you're doing your thing and you're making 1969igous Scooby-Doos all of the sudden like things might start to slow down a little bit for you. And we see this like Scooby-Doo is not sold out. TNA is not sold out. I don't think Foo Fighters is sold out, you know? And again it's like the games are just too expensive. Look at this, man. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to merge, but look at this. Look at this. Amazing. Mr. Franchi, thank you so much. And look, you know, one of the reasons why not, I mean, and Chris, Chris and I had a private conversation about Galactic Tank Force and, and I really, you know, I really, um, I'm glad we had that conversation. And, and I think, you know, he knows what's going on with me in my personal life. And it's, it's shitty. It's shittier than anything you could imagine. And even so, like, I wasn't going to use that as an excuse to behave badly because I just don't think, you know, I don't think something happening in your personal life gives you immunity to act like a jerk. You know, and some people do that. They're like, oh, this is happening to me, so I don't give an F about anybody else because of what's happening to me. That's not how I was raised. It's not my values. I mean, these people worked really hard on the game. You'll see it in a couple weeks. I think it looks really interesting and I think you're gonna I think you're gonna think that too and I'm not just saying that because he kicks some stars I think I think all this stuff is like interesting I think pinball in general is interesting well I mean look some people's pins might be worth more than their homes that's cool um you know look I think Scott Denise's multi more of a game I haven't talked about it much I don't think Multimorphic.
    80:55
    What time is it? Let me see. Gang, what time is it? Hold on. Okay, we got a few more minutes. I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think Jerry's gonna be able to, I don't think he's gonna be able to get success in this marketplace. There's, there's too much real pinball happening to pull people over to his platform. And Scott, if Scott Denise's game launches at Texas and, and, and still the majority of Heffa Viel I Hans verlierposhka wie millionaires beacon I'm just going to understand and for me hatred. I really don't get it, I think it's the nicest looking Stern machines they've ever been, It's not cheap. It's not cheap and they only made 80 I don't get… I don't get the anger towards it. I really don't. If you've ever stood over one, you know what I'm talking about. Hate is going to hate I don't… I really don't get it like you could sell the topper off the damn thing for five grand. I grew up watching Batman in the 80s. Like they played Batman on reruns in the 80s. Gang, for all of you people who watch Scooby-Doo, you were not watching Scooby-Doo Illustrated in the 80s. You were watching Scooby-Doo Illustrated in the 60s and 70s. Rerun, people, reruns.
    82:35
    So don't pretend like, oh, Scooby-Doo's from my childhood. Yeah, Batman 66 is from my childhood. It's also Batman. Batman, the most fun campy version of Batman ever. And it's never going to go out of style. Never. And it was the last project Adam West ever worked on. So don't, don't just just stick to your laughs. I get it. I get it. It's got one of the best mechs Stern has ever made. Well, the shark repellent is from the The shark Repellent is from the movie, but it is in the game. The Shark Repellent is in the game. As a, it's in the, one of the illustrations. Look everybody, here's the deal. Here's the deal. Yeah, I grew up, I was born in 76. I remember watching Does nobody else who grew up in the 80s remember watching Batman 66 all the time on TV?
    83:52
    I watched it all the time on TV. I... I don't understand. Who didn't watch Batman66 when you were a kid in the 80s? They played it on reruns all the time. You know what would be a great pinball machine from our childhood? They'll never make it because it canceled culture. But I was just thinking about this Dukes of Hazards pinball. How has there not been a Dukes of Hazards pinball machine? Like the entire show is about jumping the General Lee like and like Dukes of Hazards would again they wouldn't make it. It's so canceled now for obvious reasons. I grew up watching like Dukes of Hazards, Batman 66, Thundercats, He-Man, GI Joe, Transformers. I grew up watching Inspector Gadget. I feel like Inspector Gadget would be an interesting pinball machine because of all the gadgets and all the Written poetry, Night Rider How do we not have a Night Rider pinball machine? I don't understand. Like, you could have a Night Rider pinball machine and the freaking apron should have the light that goes back and forth. And you should have the Night Rider car on the cabinet and LED light strip the light. No, let's not do that. Let's not do that. Let's make Black Knight. I just I like I think even as we talk right here. We're we're absolutely coming up with some like, great, great, great stuff. Again, for the target audience that buys pinball. All of this stuff is relevant. I'm everybody look have a great, great weekend. I will talk to you soon. Lots of content coming this week. Lots of content. I can't wait to see that Jersey Jack release on Tuesday. I will most likely do a Facebook Live so we can hang out together when they release it. I will also do more podcasts. Everybody thank you for the stars. We got the 6600 Not too bad. Not the best ever. You know, You know I love that 10,000 mark. Maybe we do another minute. Maybe Pete Rosen swoops in with his 5,000. Sometimes I cut the show too early and before Pete can throw it. But no pressure Pete or Billy.
    87:18
    Oh, you guys are the best. You guys are the best. It's funny watching everyone now ask for Patreon. But nobody knows what they're doing with their Patreons. The only way you're gonna make Patreon money is if you give the content exclusively. No one's just gonna say thank you. You gotta give them something more. And that's like, no one else has the guts to take their show completely behind the paywall. See, Franchi, I think you should just do a solo show behind the paywall on Patreon. It'd be great. I guarantee you'd get, you know, a decent following. Make more money than the t-shirts.
    87:56
    All right, everybody. There it is. Did he just do it again? Did he do it again, Pete? I knew it! We got it! We got it! Oh, Pete.
    88:14
    I love you, Pete. He does it. Does it every time. Swoops in, just owns it. Have a rad weekend, everybody. This is a good show. I feel like we had a good one here today. Genghis, I want your review of my show on my desk in the next hour, okay? Killian's gotta go do his nap right now. I'm gonna go to, I gotta do work this weekend. I got a lot of work. Ugh. Have a great weekend and we'll talk to you soon. Go buy some of Albert's coffee, everybody. Pinball Nerd Coffee. Google it. Later.