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Pinball Junk Drawer Episode 13

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jan 24, 2023
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TL;DR

Hosts critique pinball rumor culture and manufacturer tribalism, urging community skepticism and acceptance.

Summary

Foghorn Leghorn and Craft Brew Sally discuss the pinball rumor mill cycle, critiquing how influencers speculate about unannounced machines based on minimal evidence, how baseless rumors spread through community forums like Pinside, and the divisive tribalism between Stern and JJP fanbases. They argue for more skepticism, less hate-driven discourse, and appreciation for all manufacturers' contributions to the hobby.

Key Claims

  • Only 7% of pinball rumors discussed by influencers come to fruition; 93% is nonsense

    low confidence · Foghorn Leghorn, speaking to illustrate the unreliability of rumor speculation

  • Stern deliberately places objects in factory photos to generate free publicity through rumor cycles

    medium confidence · Foghorn Leghorn describing Stern's marketing strategy of leaving props visible to spark speculation

  • Deep Root Pinball thread on Pinside has 30,000-35,000 replies

    high confidence · Foghorn Leghorn citing the massive engagement around the Deep Root Ponzi scheme controversy

  • Most pinball machines are so expensive that only wealthy people can afford them, making brand loyalty irrelevant

    medium confidence · Foghorn Leghorn comparing pinball purchasing to luxury car ownership and suggesting price excludes common buyers

  • Stern kept pinball alive when no other manufacturer did

    medium confidence · Foghorn Leghorn defending Stern's historical role in sustaining the industry

  • McFarlane is doing artwork for an Ozzy Osbourne comic book and album cover

    high confidence · Foghorn Leghorn referencing McFarlane's documented work on Ozzy projects as a basis for rumoring an Ozzy pinball machine

  • A poo emoji pinball machine sold out in 12 seconds at $20,000 each

    low confidence · Foghorn Leghorn citing an absurd example of pinball machine IP licensing and collector demand

Notable Quotes

  • “7% of them come to fruition. And then they're geniuses. but the other 93% of the time it's just nonsense being spouted off into the ether”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 3:33 — Core thesis: influencers are unreliable sources for rumors, yet gain credibility from occasional hits

  • “Stern loves this they've figured out very early that all they have to do is have one little thing in the back of one little picture in the back of one person's factory tour and they get free publicity for like six months”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 5:23 — Describes alleged Stern strategy to seed rumors through subtle visual placement

  • “there's no self-correcting backlash. The people that jumped up and said, it's an Aussie pin. Well, they should be locked out of the pin side for a month.”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 8:00 — Calls for community accountability for spreading false rumors

  • “Stern kept pinball alive when no one else did. So shut up.”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 13:29 — Defense of Stern against tribalistic criticism; acknowledges manufacturer importance

  • “if Stern and JJP and all these other places are cranking out machines, it doesn't matter in most people's lives. There's no hatred one or the other. In fact, those guys probably talk to each other because they have to because they have to know the market.”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 12:33 — Argues manufacturers are business partners, not enemies, and tribalism is consumer-driven delusion

  • “we're all helping. They're doing their bidding, my masters.”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 15:35 — Meta-observation: community discourse amplifies manufacturer marketing whether rumors are true or false

  • “I literally the poo emoji has a pinball machine coming out. Sold out in 12 seconds.”

Entities

Foghorn LeghornpersonCraft Brew SallypersonStern PinballcompanyJersey Jack PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyDeep Root PinballcompanyTodd McFarlanepersonOzzy OsbournepersonGary Sternperson

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Widespread hate-driven discourse between Stern and JJP fanbases; meaningless brand loyalty debates that lack consequences or accountability

    high · Foghorn describes recurring pattern of haters vs defenders in every thread, divisiveness based on company preference, absence of self-correcting backlash for spreading false rumors

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Recurring rumor of Ozzy Osbourne pinball machine based on Stern factory event appearance and Todd McFarlane's documented work on Ozzy projects

    medium · Foghorn references Ozzy appearance at Stern event, McFarlane doing album cover and comic work for Ozzy, community speculation this signals upcoming machine

  • ?

    industry_signal: Stern alleged to deliberately seed objects in factory photos to generate rumor-driven free publicity lasting months

    medium · Foghorn notes Stern has 'figured out' how to plant props in background of photos to spark speculation; cites example of designer having figurine on desk visible in one shot

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball influencers speculate on unannounced machines at low success rate but gain credibility from occasional accurate predictions

    medium · Foghorn estimates 7% of rumors come true, 93% are nonsense; influencers claimed as geniuses when right, ignored when wrong

  • $

    market_signal: Pinball machines priced at $7,000-$20,000+ create barrier that excludes non-wealthy buyers; brand loyalty irrelevant to ultra-wealthy collectors

    high · Foghorn argues most humans priced out; only rich people buying; machines now status symbols; references $20k poo emoji machine sold out in seconds

Topics

Pinball rumor mill and speculation cultureprimaryCommunity tribalism: Stern vs JJP fanbasesprimaryDeep Root Pinball Ponzi scheme scandalsecondaryManufacturer marketing strategies and free publicitysecondaryPinball machine pricing, luxury status, and collector demographicssecondaryPinball artwork and design quality assessmentmentionedInternet discourse and hate culture in niche communitiessecondaryPinball influencers and media unreliabilityprimary

Sentiment

negative(-0.65)— Hosts express frustration and cynicism toward rumor culture, tribalism, and meanness in the pinball community. However, they defend the hobby itself and manufacturers' efforts. Tone is comedic and self-aware; the negativity is performative critique rather than genuine hostility.

Transcript

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0:00
Now who's responsi- I say who's responsible for this unwarranted attack on my person? I say, I say, I say, pay attention now, boy. This is, of course, Foghorn Leghorn presents the Pinball Junk Drawer. You all asked for it. I say, I say, you all asked for it now. You're gonna get it. Boy, oh boy, are you gonna get it. Go, I say, go away, boy, you bother me. Do not think you do, but hey, who cares whether that this is. What is this? Pinball Junk Drawer.
0:31
Shore number 13. Lucky 13. The only pinball podcast to be behind a paywall. Of love. My name is Loghorn Faghorn and with me as always... Craft Brew Sally. Nice. And that's why we have Take 2s here on the Pinball Junk Drawer. It's because we're not professionals. Although we play one on TV. So, how was your pinball week this week? Nothing? Absolutely. nothing. I guess it's good to take time away and reflect. So the subject du jour is going to be
1:08
kind of an interesting, like the pinball rumor mill cycle. And that's a lot to digest. Well, I'll delve deeper into that. So as a baseline, how much pinball shenanigans do you absorb weekly, Like social media or forums or whatever. I see some pictures on social media, but not a whole bunch. So you're not like following Stern, following all the producers?
1:40
Well, I follow Stern and some of people we've met through pinball, but nothing really. Okay. All right. Because I did have a show earlier on in this show's existence, but that was about 100 years ago, where I kind of talked about how deep do you get into the hobby? Because, you know, initially with pinball, I was all in. I was listening to every talking head or the pinball media.

Foghorn Leghorn@ 16:32 — Absurdist example of IP licensing's reach in modern pinball and FOMO-driven sales

  • “maybe if you hear a rumor, don't buy into the hype. Wait until the machines actually, wait until they actually say something.”

    Foghorn Leghorn@ 18:19 — Core takeaway: encourage skepticism of unconfirmed rumors

    • Pinsideorganization
    Beatlesgame
    Wizard of Ozgame
    Ravengame
    Thunder Catsgame
    Thunderbirdsgame
    Street Fightergame
    Al Goreperson
  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Hosts have pulled back from consuming pinball media due to fatigue with rumor cycles and drama; now mostly lurk on Pinside to observe rather than engage

    high · Foghorn states 'I don't listen to any of the podcasts anymore. I only go on pin side just kind of to watch things.' Cites drama as cause for pulling back from 'a lot of the stuff'

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: Deep Root Pinball Ponzi scheme generated largest Pinside forum thread (~30,000-35,000 replies); described as 'one of the biggest weird things in the pinball world'

    high · Foghorn references Deep Root thread as example of sustained community engagement around major industry scandal; notes someone probably predicted it

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Hosts note that designer artwork/direction constrained by IP holder requirements and licensing; critiqued machines often result from meetings and direction, not designer freedom

    medium · Discussion of Raven, Street Fighter artwork; hosts note they don't know what direction designers were given; IP holders involved in design approval

  • ?

    content_signal: Pinball Junk Drawer planning future episodes on top 5 dream machines and craft brew recommendations

    high · Hosts discuss doing obligatory top 5 dream pins episode, mention Cigar City craft brewery should have pinball machine

  • ?

    historical_signal: Stern credited with keeping pinball alive when no other manufacturer did; historical importance acknowledged by hosts despite contemporary tribalism

    high · Foghorn defends Stern: 'Stern kept pinball alive when no one else did. So shut up.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Community discourse characterized by unnecessary meanness and toxicity over subjective preferences; hosts advocate for openness and reduced hostility

    high · Extensive discussion of hate-filled threads, personal attacks, divisiveness; hosts argue 'open your heart to love instead of hate' and criticize mean-spirited commentary

  • ?

    product_strategy: IP licensing in pinball expanding to absurdist extremes; poo emoji pinball machine example suggests any IP can be licensed at premium price

    medium · Foghorn notes 'literally the poo emoji has a pinball machine coming out. Sold out in 12 seconds. CE, 20 grand each. You know, you're like, whatever.'

    • 2:12
    I can't say it without laughing. I cannot say that sentence without laughing. So the pinball influencers, the pinball media. and then I was also like on Pinside which is you know a big thing IM not IMDB that's the movie thing it's like International Pinball Database whatever that would be that one is more just like literally what the heck is this machine and you go look there and they have like all the real information about it how many were made the flyers pictures of it it's a great resource it is because anytime I'm
    2:44
    thinking of a project like the ones out there in the wild and it's like oh $700 doesn't work you're like oh crap I go look at it because then they're like well there's seven of them so you're never gonna find parts so just move along um so I still go on the I go on pin side a couple times a day um just I I mostly lurk I don't really spout off much because I don't need to have anyone's witty retort to my witty retort. You know, it's that whole shenanigans.
    3:14
    But what caused me to bring this all up was, now, there was an event. Pinball is fraught with everyone. A lot of the pinball influencers like to talk about rumors. They're going to break some hot rumors. And like 7% of them come to fruition. And then they're geniuses. but the other 93% of the time it's just nonsense being spouted off into the ether and, and then people discuss them.
    3:45
    Oh, what did so-and-so say? Oh my God. You know, are they really going to make a pinball based on rocks? No, of course not. But whatever, Hey, whatever is, it's another pin side thread and another, another click to the egos of the influencers. But, and if you're here for that, don't ever come here for that. This is literally a show based on nonsense by someone who knows nothing. That is correct. So if you're here for hot gossip and whatever, just move along. I don't need any mail. I don't need it. Just keep on moving. This is not the pinball media you were looking for.
    4:17
    Yeah, exactly. Or droids. I don't have the droids or the pinball media. Holy crap. So what started this whole thought process in my brain was, now, I forget what it even was. It was some pinball gathering. And Stern had Ozzy there. and also of McFarlane because McFarlane was doing art I think it's the long standing rumor is that they're going to do Venom soon and you remember Venom from the Spider-Man
    4:49
    Spider-Man sure do look how easily the lies roll off Sally's tongue so then like oh he's probably going to be the artist well what's Ozzy doing oh my god they must be releasing an Ozzy pin and then a million people weigh in and oh that's Grandpa Rock another Grandpa Rock and then who said now Stern loves this they've figured out
    5:19
    very early that all they have to do is have one little thing in the back of one little picture in the back of one person's factory tour and they get free publicity for like six months Like literally some designer can have a Futurama figurine on the back of his computer while he toiling away at whatever he making And one picture is going to have that right in the corner And someone going to zoom in and be like Lawler next design must be Futurama
    5:51
    And they use their jump to conclusions, Matt. Oh, that's genius, though. Well, yeah. For Stern, it's genius because people just keep talking about Stern. They've gotten good at trolling people who love to just make up crap and pretend it's real. and so good on them yeah now whether they're going to do an Ozzy pin or not or Futurama that's for Sharon to decide Ozzy doesn't remember being at the Stern thing
    6:21
    and if he does he doesn't care but it was just one of those things and then it just went through the whole and that's where I was like there's a cycle and it just repeats itself ad nauseum like any time something happens first of all everyone craps the rompers it is just crap flying everywhere oh my god and there's 17 pins and then someone condenses all 17 into like one or a forum threads and then everyone takes the 78 Aussie threads
    6:52
    and kind of makes one the cream rises to the top shall we say so then there's one kind of dominant oh my god Stern's making an Aussie pin thread and if you have a sarcasm detector at home You might be, it might be beeping or hitting the high end like it's hitting the tops. That's because I'm very sarcastic and hateful. And every time one of these comes up. That is correct. It's just the same crap over and over. Oh, JJP should have got the Aussie pin.
    7:26
    Oh, Aussies for grandpas. Oh, this and that. So the haters weigh in. the people that hate Stern or hate JJP or hate whatever, whoever that rumor that's baseless is based on, then the haters come in for those. Then the people that love that company come in and defend, and it just goes and goes and goes. And then it peters out when the event happens, and they're like, oh, well, here's some more Godzilla pins. Thanks for showing up, everyone. Ozzy had a great time. The end. But there's never any, like,
    7:57
    the problem is there's no self-correcting backlash. Yeah. The people that jumped up and said, it's an Aussie pin. Well, they should be locked out of the pin side for a month. If you support lies that are just baseless lies, then you should have some, there's no consequence, you know. Which is why I talk on the mic all the time. So you're in other things, though. You're not, I mean, not just pinball, but you do, is it the same? Yes, absolutely.
    8:27
    So this is just a thing. Yeah. Okay. It's just how it is. And, like, I'm in a Disney World group. Because I assume you like pinball. No, oh, wait. Okay, go ahead. But it's always, it's just hate everywhere. Weird. If somebody says this is what this is, then somebody's like, well, that's stupid. Like, why? Why? Like, let's pretend, world, that they did make an Aussie pin.
    8:59
    Yeah. That doesn't affect anything in somebody's world if they dislike Ozzy. Yeah. You know, I have a huge hatred for the Patriots. So does everyone in the world. No, mine's a little bit off the charts, I think. Does everyone have a Patriots hater meter at home? It might have just dinged. More so than your bullshit meter or sarcasm meter. I don't have, if they invented a bullshit meter, wow. oh, now that's money in the bank, my friend.
    9:30
    Yeah, it's just there's always the, oh, well, that's stupid, or they're stupid, or you don't know what you're talking about, or you know what I mean. Yeah, like some – It's always, no matter what. And I guess that is the way of the world. Yeah. And I started thinking about it, like a couple – my brain overthinks some things in multiple directions, which leads me no way of focusing. I guess part of it is like you could say, oh, I don't like – a band. Or you say, hey, a band just came out with their new thing.
    10:01
    Well, if you were talking to your friends in a garage or in their living room in the before times, before there was an internet, somebody said, oh, I hate that band or I love that band. And they were like, oh, well. And that was it. And then they went on playing Mario Brothers. But now, the internet hears all those people. And it is just a flippant, nah, I never really liked that band. Well, you're a moron. Yeah, well, now it's a statement and now that statement has so much weight because it's so much matters what i think about somebody in connecticut thinks about something that isn't a real thing like and it's
    10:34
    just so crazy and then yeah but then there's the divisiveness which that could be a show on its own well i hate stern i i i'm a jjp fan i hate stern stern should have gotten the aussie pin and what everybody's not getting here is that's your opinion and you're that's okay because it's your So does the Disney people have people that come in and say, well, I like Universal, so Disney sucks. Well, we are on like, I am on a Walt Disney World page. Those people are mad. Well, there's people that come over and they're like, well, can you answer a question about Universal?
    11:09
    Yeah, go to the Universal page. Oh, my God. I wish there was a stir page in it. It would just be like, yeah, go get on our page. So the other thing and then this is kind of a segue not a segue Those are those things you rode that never went anywhere The um like if you are like I kind of have always said I really like Stern machines And I just as I do they feel good They shoot, they always shoot really well. And I also agree with your statement.
    11:39
    You would concur. I do concur. Some of the other ones to me just feel, they don't feel the same when you're playing. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. But I don't hate somebody because they think that it's the – JJP is better or spooky or whatever. One of the things that I – and I was kind of like, what's the root of this? Where do we have this? Because another thing is that is very prevalent in every thread on these pins, on pin side or whatever. It's like the hatred.
    12:10
    Now, if you wake up in the morning, there's a classic Ford and Chevy. If you wake up in the morning and you sip your coffee and you walk out in your garage and there's an SS Camaro and then there's a 5.0 GT Mustang. Well, you, sir, are living a pretty damn good life. Now you might like one more or the other. It doesn't matter. Like if Stern and JJP and all these other places are cranking out machines, it doesn't matter in most people's lives. There's no hatred one or the other. In fact, those guys probably talk to each other because they have to
    12:41
    because they have to know the market. They're friends. They might be business enemies, but they're not. They're not fighting over some imaginary number. These machines are so expensive, most men, most humans can't buy them. They've been priced out of the common jerk's thing. So the only people that are buying these are very rich people, and they don't care. You have $10 million. It doesn't matter. They don't care if it says JJP or Stern. It's a status symbol at this point.
    13:12
    So like that, but that us versus them thing, Coke versus Pepsi and Harley versus Indian. We're just, we've all been bought and sold long ago, folks. It's all marketing BS. It's not. So when I, whenever I start reading about people hating on Stern, Stern's this, Stern's that. No, Stern kept pinball alive when no one else did. So shut up. Yeah. And JJP is making fine machines. They're very bright and colorful and that, you know, and if you love them, great. There's no love or hate one way or the other. I can never understand this, like, devout thing.
    13:46
    Yeah. And I guess it's human nature. I think we're a little bit more, like, stern heavy just because we've interacted with Gary. Yeah. We've been at places where he is and had personal, like, experiences with him. Yeah. And they make great machines. They do. They're, you know, my favorite is the Beatles. I love that machine. When you should. It's a gorgeous machine. It shoots great.
    14:16
    I really wanted to love Wizard of Oz. I just don't love it. Yeah. I don't hate it, but I don't love it. Why would you hate any machine? Right. I have this thing that's probably going to happen in my life at some point where I take the world's most hated machine and kind of document making it the most perfectly correct example of the world's most hated machine. I thought it was going to be Raven, but it might be Thunder Cats. No, Thunderbirds.
    14:47
    Doesn't matter. It's never going to happen because now machines are too expensive. Because you can't find it. Everyone burned them. They burned them. They were like, it's a witch. It's a witch. But it's just one of those things where, like, where does, I guess it doesn't really matter. I'm sure it came about at the invention of the internet. Was that Al Gore? I hate Al Gore. I love whatever jerk ran against that jerk. Sorry, I had to. That's exactly. I think Pepsi or Coke. No, Coke invented the.
    15:17
    Coke might have invented the internet, but not the drinky kind. No. So, like, no, no. Like, we're not going there. No. So, I don't know. And I guess, in reality, me picking apart this stuff is a joke in itself because it's all free marketing for the companies, so why do they care? Yeah. We're all helping. They're doing their bidding, my masters. And who knows if they're like, oh, we're going to put a machine out. In their head, they're like, I don't know what we should put out.
    15:47
    So they drop little crumbs. Next thing you know, oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, exactly. Now, it's not a far leap to pile onto the rumor mill. It's not a far leap that if Ozzy and McFarlane, who McFarlane's doing an Ozzy, He did some of the artwork for his newest album cover, and he's going to do an Aussie comic book. Oh, that's awesome. It's not a far leap to say, well, if they have this working relationship, there's probably a Sabbath or an Aussie pin coming out.
    16:20
    Or there could be. Who cares? Yeah. Because everyone hates on band or music pins as well. And you go, well, they kind of sell out. Well, at this point, everything's selling out. Hey, look at this. I have a piece. I have a, literally the poo emoji has a pinball machine coming out. Sold out in 12 seconds. Doesn't matter. CE, 20 grand each. You know, you're like, whatever. So, like, from their perspective, they're like, who cares? Just keep hucking rocks. So maybe that rock pinball machine will come out. Literally a rock. Just rock.
    16:50
    There's no music involved. It's just, what would the sound effects be? Just like one stone hitting another one. That's like the love den. The love cave on the rock. It's just two rocks hitting each other. make of that what you will but just a disclaimer this is all just dumbness oh my god did you hear the rumor from loghorn beghorn and a messed up name of a messed up fake thing Oh my god I wonder if it real Who cares? I don't know.
    17:22
    So I guess what you're saying is, you know, it is just everywhere. It is everywhere. And that kind of made me, the drama or the BS made me pull back from a lot of the stuff. I don't listen to any of the podcasts anymore. I only go on the on pin side just kind of to watch things. Watch the drama. I guess or watch, see if there's any news. Because sometimes you can't look away. A lot of times you can't look away. Like look at the deep root thread on pin side has
    17:53
    like literally 30,000 or 35,000 like replies or something. It's just because that one was one of the biggest weird things in the pinball world. You know, like just that Ponzi scheme based on pinball? Who would have thought it? But I'm sure somebody out there did. One of the influencers probably called. I called it. You're like, did you? Okay. But, you know, I don't know. I guess the long way of saying is maybe if you hear a rumor, don't buy into the hype.
    18:28
    Wait until the machines actually, wait until they actually say something. Yeah. But I don't know. some of them are brutal too just like ridiculous it's the mean I do hate when they get really really mean like over nothing you're right like you have no idea even if something is not the best shooting machine or the artwork doesn't look the best man there was a lot of meetings with a lot of people and there was a lot of
    18:58
    that person that owns that right the rights to that telling them what they were doing we don't know what they did or what they said. Like, I don't know what, what Frenchie, what direction he was given for the, for the machines he's done or so, or, you know, dirty Donnie. They never walk up and say, just do whatever the hell you want. No. So, you know, it's just, I always, I start with our cause that's the world I know. And it's also just, it's the easiest to look at and either like or not like immediately, but that's also like, who cares if like, I don't know.
    19:30
    but sometimes if you look at the artwork you might not like step up to that machine because you're just because it's not, it's off putting yeah, yeah and there's some you don't like, I never was yeah I guess that is true though and I keep bringing up Raven, Raven is wow when you look at that machine, what in the hell what's going on there, like what was going on there, like when you look at that meeting just imagine the meeting and you're like what the shit just happened here?
    20:02
    There's a camouflage and there's this lady. Oh my God. And there's a helicopter. I think I know what was going on in those meetings, but it wasn't good. So I'm not picking on the Raven machine. It's actually a pretty fun machine when you shoot it. It's just, there's a lot going on. And like the back glass of a street fighter. John Lee literally looks like a dude. I don't, dude looks like a lady. I think that started out as an arrow. You heard it here first. Sticking news. Rotterdam. Aerosmith. It wasn't Aerosmith. Dude looks like a lady, but it turned into Street Fighter.
    20:34
    Who knew? Well, the lady on the Raven looks like a dude, too. Yeah. Yeah, right. Whatever. But, I mean, the whole thing is like it's camouflage, which would have worked, but they should have done something. I don't know. It doesn't matter. It looks more like animal print than camouflage. Whatever. So, I think Sally might have pulled up the pictures of Raven. because you were like, what the hell is a raven? Was that a bird? The crow? I know it probably will be in my basement at one point,
    21:07
    but let's see what it looks like. See what the hell this waste of money and time is. Oh, well. So I guess, long story short, we talked in circles and none of it means anything. But maybe, I guess, like if we've learned anything today, It was just maybe, you know, open your heart to love instead of hate. Is that what you think we're going with? That is correct. That is not. I don't think I've ever said that. I meant it. I try to say it, but I can't stop laughing by the time this end in sense.
    21:39
    So there you have it. Well, have fun, everyone. Thanks for listening. This has been, of course, Pinball Junk Jore, Lucky Show 13. And I think next, you know, I think soon we should do the obligatory our top five dream pins because that's what everyone does one of those at some point. That's usually right when you run out of ideas. So buckle up. I might have you do some homework at some point. You up for it? I'm up for that. You're like, okay, these are my five favorite craft brews.
    22:09
    So Cigar City should have a pinball machine. Oh, that would be super. Oh, my God. Instead of a free game, it just pours a beer out. You have to have a lot of alcohol to live with me. I guess that's the long story short. We all knew that. All right, that's going to be it for this week. My name is, as always, will be Loghorn Feghorn. And with me, as always, my gracious co-host. Craft Brew Settling. And we hope to see you next week for more inane banter and nonsense.
    22:41
    Peace out, Billy. That's all, folks. That's it, man. Game over, man. Game over.