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INDISC 2020 - Classics II Playoffs

IE Pinball·video·3h 27m·analyzed·Jan 6, 2022
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TL;DR

INDISC 2020 Classics II Playoffs match coverage with competitive pinball analysis and player interviews.

Summary

Coverage of INDISC 2020 Classics II Playoffs at the Museum of Pinball during Texas Pinball Festival 2025. Featured match play commentary on games including Cosmic Princess and Flash, with analysis of tournament format, player strategies, and competitive dynamics among elite players like Colin Urban, Phil Beaubien, Per Schwarzenberger, and Steve Griffin.

Key Claims

  • Kaylee George won Classics 1 championship with 204 players competing, having previously won in 2013

    high confidence · IE Pinball commentator, opening segment of broadcast

  • Keith Elwin's name appears on banners three times; Kaylee George on twice; Jason Werder twice

    high confidence · IE Pinball commentator discussing tournament history and achievement milestones

  • Cosmic Princess was made in Australia under a Stern license in 1979

    high confidence · Louis Bevins (rules analyst) and commentator confirmation with production director verification

  • Texas Pinball Festival 2025 had 217 players in Classics 2 and 334 in main event across 7 hours of qualifying

    high confidence · IE Pinball commentator discussing tournament scale and structure

  • Colin Urban won last year's (2024) INDISC championship and is defending his title

    high confidence · Colin Urban interview segment and commentator introduction

  • Phil Beaubien scored 676,000 on Cosmic Princess, surpassing Per Schwarzenberger's 650,000+ score

    high confidence · Match play commentary and score announcement

  • Young players (under 18) including Colin Urban, Escher Lefkoff, Stephen Alexander Kismarchuk, and Jared August placed top 4 at Pinball Expo

    high confidence · IE Pinball commentator and Colin Urban interview

  • INDISC 2025 with 308 players in ticket format is the biggest ticket tournament in the country besides Pinberg, possibly Intergalactic

    medium confidence · IE Pinball commentator comparative analysis during standings discussion

  • Flash is the third best-selling pinball machine of all time

    medium confidence · Louis Bevins describing Flash during game commentary segment

Notable Quotes

  • “He is the Classics 1 The Champ. He last won in 2013. He was the overall The Champ.”

    IE Pinball Commentator @ Opening segment — Establishes Kaylee George's major tournament victory and historical achievement in pinball competition

  • “Per Schwarzenberger. Gobbling up points like three Swedish meatballs at Ikea.”

    Jermaine Marriol @ Cosmic Princess match commentary — Humorous characterization of Per's dominant scoring performance, shows commentator personality

  • “You know, I don't know. I think a lot of it is good, like, rule and strategy and knowledge. I think younger players pick up the more complicated games a lot quicker, and I think they're also a lot more, they just go for it.”

    Colin Urban @ Interview segment — Analysis of youth advantage in competitive pinball: rule knowledge, game comprehension, risk tolerance

  • “Probably last year's Indus, for sure. Just the biggest, and to come back on the last game and destroy it, and that's what I did. So it feels really good.”

    Colin Urban @ Interview segment — Colin's reflection on defending his 2024 INDISC championship win and confidence going into 2025 tournament

  • “What an amazing comeback by Phil the Burn budget! 676? Wow. Incredible.”

    IE Pinball Commentator @ Cosmic Princess match end — Reaction to Phil Beaubien's dramatic comeback score overtaking Per's earlier dominance

  • “You're not worried about bleeders, you're kind of worried about jumpers. That's true. Who are the seven people that are going to jump ahead of me and ruin my weekend?”

    IE Pinball Commentator @ Standings discussion — Commentary on tournament dynamics and last-minute qualifying jockeying for final spots

  • “Like he said in the interview, a lot of these kids, and I can attest to it with Stephen Alexander, They are go-get-em kind of players. They will go for the rough shot.”

    Louis Bevins @ Flash match commentary — Analysis of youth player psychology and aggressive play style differentiating younger competitors

Entities

IE PinballorganizationKaylee GeorgepersonColin UrbanpersonPhil BeaubienpersonPer SchwarzenbergerpersonSteve GriffinpersonLouis BevinspersonJermaine MarriolpersonKeith Elwinperson

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Texas Pinball Festival 2025 INDISC tournament established as record-scale ticket format event with 308 total players (217 Classics 2, ~334 main), second only to Pinberg or Intergalactic in tournament size

    high · Commentator: 'This is the second biggest tournament probably in the entire country behind Pinberg...308 players in a ticket format. That is the biggest ticket format I have seen around.'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Young players (under 18) demonstrating superior rule knowledge, game comprehension, and aggressive risk-reward play style vs older competitors; Colin Urban attributes this to faster rule pickup and willingness to 'just go for it'

    high · Colin Urban interview: 'younger players pick up the more complicated games a lot quicker, and they're also a lot more eager...big shot or risk-reward. They just going to go for it.' Commentary notes Stephen Alexander and others exemplify this aggressive approach.

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Colin Urban positioned as defending champion with significant recent victories (Brisbane Masters, last year's INDISC), young player with established elite status and confidence in comebacks

    high · Colin interview: 'Probably last year's Indus, for sure...come back on the last game and destroy it.' Commentator establishes him as 'defending Texas Pinball Festival champion' and 'Prime Minister of Australia.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Vintage pinball machines (Cosmic Princess, Flash, Frontier, Surfer, OXO) analyzed for complex rule interactions, bonus collection mechanics, and playfield ergonomics affecting tournament strategy

    high · Detailed rules breakdowns: Cosmic Princess spinner mechanics, Frontier bonus non-collection, Flash drop target strategy, Frontier slingshot tightness creating difficulty, Surfer drop target bonus non-addition.

Transcript

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0:00
We're here at the Museum of Pinball. It is in disc, it is fantastic. Yesterday, an incredible Classics 1 championship. 204 players, and it came down to the final four. Dave Grant from BC in fourth place. Joe Lemaire losing a tiebreaker. He was in third. Eric Stone from Florida in second. And Kaylee George is going to have his name on the banners once again. He is the Classics 1 champ. He last won in 2013. He was the overall champ. So we'll see if somebody can get on that banner again. That's kind of the goal here. It's such a big, big tournament. I look at the banners. I see Keith Elwin's name three times. So now Kaylee's on twice. Jason Werder, he won earlier this week. So he is going to be on twice. Can somebody get to four? Just getting on the banner is hard enough to do. But that's the great thing about this Classics 2 tournament. We'll see another 200 players here again. Top 32 making the playoffs.
1:09
Welcome. Thank you for joining us at InDisc 2020. We are excited. I know you're excited. I'm here with Louis Bevins, the rules encyclopedia. I'm here with Jermaine Marriol, player extraordinaire. These two have buys locked up. I don't. We're here and we're going to call this game for you. This match was an exciting match. You were here last night. You know these games. What do you think we're going to be seeing a lot of picks on tonight? Well, right now we are going to see a game that we did see yesterday, Cosmic Princess. Oh, that's a fun game.
1:44
It's probably made in Australia. We were talking about that earlier. It's why you don't see that game very often. It was made in Australia under a steel license. Do you want to give us a very quick, very basic rules rundown on this one, Lewis? I know this is a game near and dear to your heart. It's mostly near and dear to my heart because I got to say the words, just like magic, about 20 times. So this game, as I just said, is kind of just like magic. You've got top lanes that light spinners. You've got drop targets that multiply bonus. You've got a collect bonus saucer. And pretty much the entire point of this game is shoot this spinner to get lanes and then shoot any lit spinner.

Colin Urban previously won Brisbane Masters

medium confidence · IE Pinball commentator introduction and Colin Urban interview confirmation

  • “Frontier bonus doesn't collect at the end of fall. So if you collect rows, the only way to cash that out is up at the top.”

    Commentator @ Frontier game analysis — Rules explanation showing game design complexity affecting tournament strategy

  • “Flash, his fever-riching masterpiece. The game that prophesied so much that was Barnyard Flash.”

    Louis Bevins @ Flash introduction — Historical pinball analysis showing Flash's influence on game design and its status in the canon

  • “I think this Intergalactic has it, but still, 308 players in a ticket format. That is the biggest ticket format I have seen around.”

    Commentator @ Tournament size discussion — Establishes INDISC 2025 as record-setting or near-record participation for competitive pinball

    • Jason Werder
    person
    Josh Sharpperson
    Stephen Alexander Kismarchukperson
    Escher Lefkoffperson
    Jared Augustperson
    Raymond Davidsonperson
    Derek Jerry Thompsonperson
    Grant Mortensenperson
    Johnny Pinball Modicaperson
    Jim Belsitoperson
    Museum of Pinballorganization
    Texas Pinball Festival 2025event
    INDISCevent
    Pinball Expoevent
    Brisbane Mastersevent
    Cosmic Princessgame
  • ?

    competitive_signal: Observable differences in play style between young and older competitors: youth more aggressive/improvisational, older players more conservative due to limited time; risk-aversion vs risk-seeking dichotomy

    high · Louis Bevins commentary on Colin Urban's ball 1 flash performance: 'I guess when you're 17, you're not quite as patient as this old man.' Earlier commentary: 'Older farts like me have limited time, so we have to take advantage of it. We're not taking the bigger risks.'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Match play tournament broadcast with detailed rules analysis, player interviews, live scoring, and expert commentary creating comprehensive tournament coverage format

    high · Structure includes opening tournament recap, rules analyst (Louis Bevins) providing game mechanics, live match play-by-play commentary, player interviews between matches, standings tracking.

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Last-minute qualifying jumpers and strategic deferral emerging as important tournament mechanics; players strategically deferring game picks to preserve options as field advances, creating meta-game around pick optimization

    high · Discussion of Josh Sharp jumping into top 10, commentary on 'jumpers vs bleeders,' Phil Beaubien and Colin Urban deferring picks strategically, commentary: 'people seem to like picking these Harry Williams Big Flipper 5-ball games' based on strategic value.

  • ?

    venue_signal: Museum of Pinball established as major tournament venue for INDISC, historic achievement tracking with physical banners displaying multiple-time winners (Keith Elwin 3x, Kaylee George 2x, Jason Werder 2x)

    high · Opening commentary: 'We're here at the Museum of Pinball. It is fantastic...I look at the banners. I see Keith Elwin's name three times. So now Kaylee's on twice.'

    • 2:28
    Got it. Cash out points. And now you've got Kaylee George. At the lead? No, that's for Schwarzenberger. Yeah, that's for Schwarzenberger. All right. I'm not too familiar with Per. You know anything about this guy?
    2:39
    Yeah, he was based in California. I believe he's moved away from San Francisco because he's not in the league anymore. But originally from Sweden. Yeah, originally from Sweden. And he finds himself here in California ready to battle the champions. Okay. Ball's bouncing around. Interesting, but there is no slingshot at the bottom either. The slingshot at the middle of the plate will be loose. Oh, those middle slingshots will send it side to side? Right. Yeah. Not doing a whole lot here. Maybe trying to get a little pop love? Ooh, he's trying to wrestle for a little bit. And there you go. Outrolled, but finds the pop bumper to do the worst hit. That was an unprofitable ball, I would say. And it's kind of hard to tell, but it has a Trident game set on the drop targets. You only have two drop targets to get 2x, then three drop targets for 3x, four for 4x, and five for 5x. So it's kind of like a Magic Slash Frighten situation. Here comes Steve Griffin.
    3:32
    Takes off that bottom drop at the pop. That's how you want to do that, right? Usually, you're trying to kick the ball up top, and if the pop bumpers happen to give you some drop targets, that's all the better. Very errant flipping so far. He was lucky to survive that, I would say. Like a moonwalk. This is trouble. No. This is also trouble. And that's not coming back. So two pretty poor balls to start this out. Let's see if Colin Urban, the defending Indisc champion, if I'm not mistaken. That's correct. Let's see if he can get something going here on Cosmic Princess, the digital game that I've never seen before from Italy, I'm told. Australia. Close enough. All the way. Is this a Hanking game? No. I'm not sure. Licensed by Stern. Made in Australia. Interesting. Yeah. It is. It's just on the back of us on the other right corner. Oh, wow. Got lucky there, huh? And very fast. I mean, this upper slingshot makes just the game go in every direction. And you see a lot of people shooting early. Like, those spinners are very late. I don't know if the people are a little lower or the angles. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for these guys to get used to that. Bird bomb stepping up now. This is a three-ball game, correct? Yes. Oh, boy. Oh boy. The classic master, Phil Beaubombe. Yes, the Canadian classic master. An all-around sweetheart, I think we can all agree. Oh, there he goes! That's 2x. Oh, alright. So it looks like Phil was trying to go for the drop targets, which he did take down that first set. Not a bad idea, I mean, you get some points out of it. Yeah. It's the eternal question, do you go for your bonus first and then your multiplier, or do you go for the multiplier and then your bonus? Or just see what happens and kind of roll with it. Does the drop actually build the bonus at the same time? The drops themselves, I don't know if they build the bonus as much, but there are multiple advanced three bonus switches around the way it builds. And the out lane is advanced three bonus, right? Yeah, the out lane, the inner in lanes are advanced three bonus. Oh, nice up and down. That gave me some bonus. The left orbit has also got three rollovers in it, and those will each advance a bonus as well. Oh, as well as spotting lanes, right? Did you see that? He was backhanding for the drop targets. And it went up the top lanes? No, but he took out a drop target with a backhand. And I'd say he's off to the best ball we've seen so far. Definitely got some bonus in the tank. Is he at 2x now? He's not at 2x. He's still fishing for the spinner. Let's see if he goes for that backhand again. He went for that right spinner and he did not like it. Oh, nice shot. And it's just like magic. The value of the spinner moves after you shoot the spinner. So it's pretty deceiving. That was a nice shot back on top. More bonus. Yep. Let's see. He really... Oh, it went under the spinner. He didn't even spin. Crazy. I think it would behoove him at this point to get his multiplier. All right. So you've got the middle lane. The middle lane is a roving 1,000 points of spin. Now it would behoove him to just go for spinners. He doesn't want to get that drop target gone? Oh, no. He's got spinners lit. He's got spinners lit for about 2,000 of risk. Boom.
    6:41
    Too bad. He's got a little cut, but... What did he get? 220. That's already very good. Very nice ball. As soon as you say 220, he's sitting at 280. And that is the power of these spinners. Let's see how much that takes.
    6:54
    That's about 40,000 on that one spinner. Wow, you called it, Lewis, and he's doing it? Go for the spinners. Big, big points. Cascading. Oh, oh, oh. That just sat on that post. Per Schwerzenberger.
    7:08
    Gobbling up points like three Swedish meatballs at Ikea. Very impressive ball. That's going to give him a commanding lead at this point. You know, anywhere around $4,500 is a very good score on that game. Oh, and another bad ball for Steve. That was house ball all the way. That's got to be disheartening. Let's see if Colin Urban can... Sitting at $21,000? Can nip at Per Schwarzenberger's heels a little bit. Yeah, Per did play this once in qualifying. He scored $411,000. So even in two balls, he's looking to match his qualifying score right now. So Per was the highest speed. He peaked that game, right? I assume being player one? I would assume that as well. Oh, the reject again. Right now, it's, you know, Per Schwarzenberger's world, and everyone else is just living in it. You know, being a Papa format with three games around, 4-2-1-0, if you win that first game, it's such a good feeling. I mean, you're already feeling pretty. And on the other hand, when you lose one of these opening ones, it hurts. You can claw back, because you always know two wins will get you in.
    8:10
    Yeah, for reference, Phil is the high seed, actually. Colin is the second seed. I mean, you never know. He deferred this pick because you could only pick each game once in these finals. So he wants to save some picks. So Phil being a top seed, he's going to get to pick a lot. He's going to have a chance to pick a lot of games. He saved a pick. Colin knows, I could probably get a pick somewhere in the future. Phil having no luck finding that spinner as of yet.
    8:35
    There's another one. He's had a lot of late stops to that spinner. Let's see if he can finally get it early there. I think Colleen in general likes to go third. I've played with him before when he just shoots to go third because he liked that. Not last, but last position. Oh, I know people who do that. Yeah, the third position. For some, third is indeed the word. Another rejected spinner shot. Man, Phil's going to be in big trouble if he can't figure that shot out. I mean, nothing's lit either, right? So he already has to get some something. He's just trying to get up top and get his bonus, I guess. How do you light the spinner again? Well, to light the spinner, you need to get up top and you need to get those lanes. So he just picked up that green lane. Yes, I see it. That green lane will light this light. You also have a two-standard target on either side of the spinner that lights the lane. What does that hold you up there? Is that a bonus collect? That's a double bonus collect for $38,000 right there. Okay, so I would say Phil is now really nipping at the former Swede's heels. It's a surprisingly nice ball for Phil, considering the amount of grade-A beef we've seen on that spinner's side. I mean, I don't think I've seen anyone actually going into the bonus collect so far. Yeah, that might be the first one, and it was a hefty collect. And it's, again, Phil cannot hit the spinner, but he really lucked into that shot there. Another missed shot. So many saves. It's so late. I mean, it's really hard to calibrate. I think he's, yeah, I think that's why I go for the drops, because you're never going to hit the spinner still, Brian. Shoot the drop targets. Phil, I think he actually missed that spinner far too early. All right. That was a good ball. Is that going to give him the lead? It's not going to give him the lead, but it is going to give him about 334,000. Wow. Going into ball three. He caught up. With no spinner. Yeah. Using both strategies, pretty much. Like max bonus collect at 2x, and then he went back to nearly max at 3x. That was the missed 20 spinner shots. Right. Get a bonus collect, and then get your 2x lit right before you drain strat. You know, it wasn't the prettiest thing in the world, but much like Phil, the inner beauty is shining through. All right, let's see what's the first strategy. Back to the spinner. That man has dialed into that spinner shot. Yeah. And not resting on his laurels, perhaps seeing what the Toronto Anne accomplished there on that last ball. He's trying to separate himself. Spinner all day, I think he has that down.
    10:57
    And the four is a little flaky, but he had that late as well. I think he's only missing number two. Wait, did he relight the spinner? He has actually completed the spinners. Two is late as well? So you see this light up here? That's light as I absolutely... Oh, there's Spinner RIP! And a bonus collect! Oh my god! Spinner RIP following the bonus collect! So that's huge! So that means the next time you do the land again, you get a special worth 100k, so if you do two set of... Am I the only one who noticed that he has 650,000 points now? Oh yes, he has 650,000 points right now. A huge Spinner RIP, a huge bonus collect. You know, I need my thesaurus, but huge is the operative word here. Huge. Very large. Substantial, one would say.
    11:41
    Ginormous. That's not a real word, but yes, yes. Jurassic. Steve Griffin not even waiting. I don't know, it's got to be a little disheartening stepping up to the game. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Yes, that's too bold. I mean, he is beating Colin Urban, so a little bit of pressure on the young man here to at least secure a point. Let's see what happens. Colin is going to have to do something here, But I agree with Steve. Walk up to the game. You know you've got your heart set on what you need to do. Just get up there and get going. Well, his heart was set on three quick house balls. Oh, a nice bonus collect. That might get him there. No. Oh, wow. That was a 4,000 bonus collect. So that is not going to do it. But that's a nice bonus. That's going to do it. That's very much help. And actually give him the points. All right. He's guaranteed a point. Steve is going to take nothing. But the good news about this format is Steve can now win the next two games and guarantee a move on. So not all is lost, as disheartening as it is. Colin has a long way to go to catch up. That was nice. Oh, it was. Just get that three, and the special is in the top again. What does that special give you? 100,000. That's a lot of points. Yeah, welcome to Sternland. Every special is 100,000. So this is a Stern game made by Australians. Under a Stern license. It is made by Australians under the Stern license. Can you tell me when? I'm just curious. I would guess 1980. Magic and Trident were in 78 and 79, right? Oh, just missed that spinner. I'm going to say 1980. Oh, nice save. Another nice save. Oh, a nice spinner rip. Boom! I see a production director is looking it up. I see an IMDB page for being cool. That's for Cosmic Princess the movie. Oh, he was so early on his way to 1979. 1979, just like Magic. This is a pretty cool game. I wouldn't mind picking one of these up. Can you just find these? Kind of all over the place. Oh, that's not going to be enough.
    13:36
    That's going to be a pretty good ball. He's not going to catch. He's not going to catch up. Oh, man. So it's really down to Ken Phil, the burn bomb,
    13:47
    double his score and defeat the Terminator himself, Pierre Schwarzenberger. Oh, he's got right there. He lives to 1,000 spinners. And just to say, I mean, 658 has got to be a top ten score today. I mean, never having seen or, oh, no. Wow, one thing in five years. I didn't think that was going to work. Yeah, because the gap is large. I mean, it's not magic size without the post in the middle, but it's a pretty sizable gap in the middle. I would say it's ginormous, yes. Mine, the gap has been huge. Oh, yes. Yeah, so you do not fall into the chasm of despair.
    14:20
    Nice. Look at all that bonus up and down. All right, you've matched. He's got to get some drops now, I think, right? Drops and hope for a collect, maybe? Yeah. Yeah, it does fall it. Very nice. Any more stars. 16 out of a dispense. 5,000 points. 500,000 points. Work your way up top. Get your spinner. Maybe if you complete that again, you're looking at a walk-off special. You know, he's not interested in that. Oh, he's so close to the lead now. Does he have any bonus yet? No, he's got 38. Oh, he's got 38 right now. He's still. He's doubled that bonus. Such a hot shot. No, he's going all spinner. And that's wise. He's almost there. He's very close. He's got to be there. He's there. He's there with boner, but... He's there! He's got it! What an amazing comeback by Phil the Burn Bomb! 676? Wow. Incredible. And what a game. That is the tenth score right there. That's crazy. I mean, Per must have felt pretty good about his score, and then boom, somebody come back. That was an incredible game, and that's what you're going to see more of. This is top of... I don't know if people realize the level of talent that is assembled in Banning, California. So what do we have, about 300 players?
    15:29
    217 in Classics too, so 217 in one day in seven hours. Seven hours of qualifying. It was fast, it was brutal. We have the top 32 going to finals, and from there, this is the top 16. So these guys have all played one round, they've survived. That's true, 32 qualifying with no buys. Yeah, 32 qualifying with no buys. I kind of like that. You know, it's more qualifier. It takes as long as a normal final. Same number of rounds. It gives more chance to people when you have such a large field. And you really get nothing for mega booming it into the top ten, which I also kind of like, too. Right. They're always so smug up there. I mean, you get to pick your games, you know. Exactly. You get to pick your games. Or defer, as the case may be. Yes. And that is a strategy we did see a lot of yesterday, too. People want to defer. And as people's picks start to run out, because you can only pick one game, I believe, once. That's correct, yes. As people's picks start to run out, you're going to see that, where people defer rather than pick some game they just don't want to play. Right.
    16:31
    Okay, we're waiting for the next round. They're all on the last ball. We can try and get some recon. Well, we don't need recon. So, it's interesting. We were talking about crazy games. So, in the first round on OXO, one of the others are very funny, and they have in the bank. Great game, great game. Kenny George picked that game, ended up with 99,000, just short of a roll, Which on that game, I mean, I would say maybe a top ten score. I mean, great scores. He got a zero. He was last. Every other three-player role died to him. And yet, he prevailed. Yeah, the heart of a champion. Yeah, I mean, he crushed Flash and then he did something else. But, I mean, the level of talent that people brought forward in finals is nuts. So it's no surprise that we just saw an awesome game. And we're going to see another one, I'm quite sure.
    17:18
    Well, I mean, you know. I'm quite sure. You're quite sure. You're quite optimistic. I like that. We've got to keep these people tuned in. I know there's football on. But in the meantime, we do have an interview coming to you fresh from the floor from, I believe, Colin. I'm not sure if that's McAlpine or if that's our friend Urban. Let's go right to that interview. We are in presence of royalty right now. The Prime Minister of Australia, Colin Urban's here. You saw what he did at Brisbane Masters. but he's pretty good here at Indus, too, last year's grand champ. How are you doing, Colin? Good, how are you? I'm good. Good to see you again. It's so exciting to watch people like yourself, Escher Lefkoff. We saw Alexander Kismarchuk and Jared August, all four people under the age of 18, top four people at Expo. What is it about you young guys? You know, I don't know. I think a lot of it is good, like, rule and strategy and knowledge. I think younger players pick up the more complicated games a lot quicker, and I think they're also a lot more, they just go for it. They're a lot more eager to, like, big shot or risk-reward. They're just going to go for it. Okay. More risk-reward. Older farts like me have limited time, so we have to take advantage of it. We're not taking the bigger risks. Maybe. Yeah.
    18:33
    Anyway, Colin, how have you been playing so far? Pretty good. With my first card, I got, like, top four in main, so I'm feeling pretty good about that. But, yeah, I'm going to work on playing all the games, get used to everything, and play a little bit of high stakes and classics as well. You've won a lot of big things, too. Your name's on the banner here at Indus. That's very, very nice. But we talked about Brisbane Masters, of course, a former city champ. What's your favorite win so far? Probably last year's Indus, for sure. Just the biggest, and to come back on the last game and destroy it, and that's what I did. So it feels really good. We'll see if history repeats itself right now. Colin Urban, thanks very much. Thank you. And speaking of the open, we have the top 40. And now we're going to go ahead. We're going to just look at this quick. So for reference, we've got 40 players that are buying it out. A bunch of other players trying to nudge people out of those spots. The top four will, I believe, get a double buy. Top 16 will get a guaranteed buy. What do the bottom four get? The bottom four get to sit around until midnight and hope that nobody bumps them below the cut line. Yeah, you know, I'm actually kind of down there towards that cut line. And, you know, at this point, a wise man once told me, you're not worried about bleeders, you're kind of worried about jumpers. That's true. Who are the seven people that are going to jump ahead of me and ruin my weekend? You know, Johnny Modica is known to do that kind of shenanigans at the last minute.
    20:01
    Jim Belsito is still playing. Jim Belsito could do a Belsito. Is that old man? I'm not worried about that. New York man.
    20:08
    Josh Sharp actually jumped up to the top ten a few minutes ago. He just walked in front of our booth right now, coming back from his Rescue 911 game. Oh, yeah, that's why I'm 34th now instead of 33, because I was jumped by Josh Sharp. He was one of the potential jumpers. And just to say, I mean, you know, sub-40 is like a lot of people moving on to the final, but we have 308 people who submitted cards today. This was the second biggest tournament probably in the entire country behind Pinnberg, I would say. Yeah, Pinnberg and maybe Intergalactic as well. Yeah. I think Intergalactic has it, but still, 308 players in a ticket format. Right. That is the biggest ticket format I have seen around.
    20:48
    Yeah, Josh. That is a lot of tickets. Yeah, Josh finally did it. He jumped up there with a mega boom into byland.
    20:54
    We know how pleasant that place is. Oh, eighth. Oh, one point. All right, let's take a look at our classics bracket. Everything is gone except for Group 3.
    21:04
    They have finished, but I believe they're trying to submit the scores now. But otherwise, we've got that Frontier and Surfer game. Do you want to talk about those?
    21:13
    Those are being played next in our group? No, those are finished right now in Group 2 and 4. Okay. I don't really know if these scores are any good. They don't look so hot, actually, on Frontier. Frontier has been a brutal game this day. First of all, the Frontier bonus doesn't collect at the end of fall. So if you collect rows, the only way to cash that out is up at the top. You're not getting that at the end of your ball.
    21:37
    And then this front tier has also just been an absolutely brutal game. 199,000 is, I would say, a fair score. It may not be the best score, but I think 60th, 70th place, middle of the road score. 600 is a fantastic score. That's amazing. That's a fantastic score, all things considered here. I mean, Jimmy's known to set the slingshots so tight. I'm just, early solid state is deadly. And looking at these games, you know, I would be shocked if we do not see OXO very shortly. People seem to like picking these Williams Big Flipper 5-ball games. That's a pretty fun game. You basically get A and B, and you can light your saucers for big, big points. And then you just kind of do the bow and arrow thing where you just kind of keep tossing it back in there. And it's a Williams E&O, so it's just like Grand Prix's Flipper of back and fast. Yeah, they're big, they're powerful, and they're a little sloppy. Just like many of my friends. Meanwhile, over in group number four, Raymond Davidson squeaks out a close one on Surfer with 57,000 over Derek Thompson's 52,000. Grant Mortensen takes third, and Joe Vittman takes last. But Surfer is another one of those interesting games. I avoided it on my tickets today, but I honestly played the game a lot at Papa, and it's a fantastic playing game. You know, we have surf champs in Seattle, and I'm convinced that hitting drop targets adds to your bonus. Yes, they do. But this one does not. Really? Oh, yeah. I have confirmed several times, even though it stays so in front of the drop target, I don't know if it's a thinning or a problem. It is not. I'm pretty sure somebody here snapped a wire off of that. Well, that's pretty cool because I missed the drop targets when I was playing it. So it's good to know I didn't miss them. Yeah, I mean, drop targets, it's not valuable. 500 points. Yeah. Although I think getting the whole bank down and doing something else, the rollovers, will light your double bonus. Rollover lights double bonus. I think the bank and the rollover lights the EB. And I don't know. Are we supposed to be playing extra balls in the finals as we were during the qualifying? Yes, you will be. I can't see them changing that up now. Well, I guess they'll be. We're going to be sitting in the booth giving you the commentary. Yes. We could be playing, but we're not, so... Oh, wow, Flash. Guys, you know it. You love it. It is the third best-selling pinball machine of all time. Williams Flash, his fever-riching masterpiece. The game that prophesied so much that was to come. Looping shots, flow, awesome sound, upper flipper shots, drop target banks aimed directly at each other. Indirectly at each other. I mean, you think... Look at this. You think about Iron Maiden. You just think about that repeatable upper loop. Yep, a lot of, so many great games inspired by Flash, and we're going to see it now. Pretty simple, shooting down the drop target bank twice will light your spinner, which is extremely lucrative, though a bit of a haul to get to.
    24:34
    Going up top, and your 1, 2, 3 will give you 2x bonus, 1, 2, 3, 4 will give you 3x bonus. Bonus is all over the place, in lanes, up top. Drops might give you a little bonus, I don't know. Another thing that a lot of people don't think about on this game, is you'll see a stand-up right over that left slingshot, and that will light your pop-up first for 1,000 points. And anybody who has played Flash knows that that is very, very lucrative. That's interesting. And it's a safe shot generally. I like to kind of just nail that thing right off the bat, and then every time you're going up top for spinner rips or for anything else, you are getting 1,000 a shot. That can add up to 100,000 points a game or more. Yeah. Lightning pops is not meaningless in a lot of games. Correct. And this would be one of those. So I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody... They can also incidentally shoot off of the sling. You can just hit that thing. So nothing around the scoop on the right? I don't see any point in going in there. I mean, you can light it for 10,000 points with the drop targets, but I don't think you're going to see people attacking that center drop target bank. It's very dangerous.
    25:42
    You're going to see people focus on that left bank to get their spinner lit. And this has been juicy, juicy. Oh, yes. I've seen Kaylee, you're at 40,000 on the spinner. Yeah, you can rip this spinner big time. You can get 40. I think you can get more. It's one of those juicy spinners. This is a very, very nice playing flash. And you're lucky. Two bans to drop targets is no small feat, right? Oh, no. That's an extra hard setting. I think usually it's just one set of bans. Usually it's one. There's a nice little card on that back glass. last spinner like second time you complete five bank but that second underlined just so you know that you're not getting the easy settings here and uh you know not not not to not to pimp out the pop love a little more but again pretty much every time you nail that drop target banks it's going to go into the pops for more points right should you have the pop bumpers i thought you were talking about sodas though the pop love or i've been we don't know a lot of canadians So one thing interesting to note, the order changed. So Phil, I think, deferred again and went fourth. Yeah, I'm sure he was confident. Yep, Colin has changed his mind about going third. I think now he wants the game he's comfortable to come back from the one point. Wow, he just wants to put up some points here on this flash. All right, he's going for the soft plunge. If you do a full plunge, it will go around to the spinner, which is kind of pointless because it's not like the getaway. There's nothing you really get for that loop. So he took out one of his rollovers, goes right for the drops, eschewing the pop bumper shot, as most people will. So he didn't wait for the drop to light. It's just 5,000 points, I mean. You're right. It's 3,000, I believe. 3,000? Yeah, it's 3,000 points, and it is worth kind of waiting for that moving shot. But in a strange scheme of things, I think he just wants to, ooh. Ouch. I guess when you're 17, you're not quite as patient as this old man. Correct. Like he said in the interview, a lot of these kids, and I can attest to it with Alexander, They are go-get-em kind of players. They will go for the rough shot. They will not hesitate to just take what they have in front of them. Well, Collins just got himself 22,000 to start out. Oh, he went a little too far and did not get... See that? That can be worth something if your spinner is lit. All right, Steven, at least touch the ball this time. So that's good. Yeah. I think maybe... He had more luck than the last game. I think maybe Steve needs to loosen up a little bit. Oh, this is trouble. Nice bump. I mean, just in lane, I don't just guess. Like, it's just metal. It's so low. I mean, the chance of surviving. He didn't do it on purpose, I don't think, because he missed the drop target bank, but he just lit his pop bumpers. And, oh, that's the one dead pop. The pops are very nice, but that one on the left is dead. I think 1,000. I mean. Oh, and he took out his bank. Very nice. He's off to a good start here. After a very rough start to the ball, I think. Oh, boy. Oh, what a save. Oh, and he missed the spinner. This is trouble. He's not at the spinner yet. He still needs to get the last two drop targets up top. True, but you can shoot the spinner just to get it back up there. And you do get some points. You get a few thousand for a good rip. And you can change the leader up top, right? No, you cannot. Too early, right? Yeah, Steve Ritchie invented that with his next game, Firepower. And the ball drains. That is a decent ball. It's better than Collins, but he was so close to really getting something going there. It's too bad to see that. You already have that cliff of two more targets, and you just cook and explode, and then you come back to scratch. And the other thing is you can just hit that spinner and, again, his pops are lit. So you get points there and you can get your bonus, your 1, 2, 3, 4. That's true. I don't think the drop target banks are the be-all, end-all on this, especially with it being two banks. I think a smarter way to do it is maybe build up your bonus, get your pops lit, and get some points that way. And then once you have some bonus in the tank, your 2 and 3x, then you can go for that drop target bank. It's true. I mean, it's not a crush the game. It's going to win. Oh, boy. Oh. That was, I guess, the definition of a house ball. Not much Per Schwarzenberger could do there. Interesting. Where did that even come from? Why is it a house ball?
    29:38
    Because it feels like a house has fallen on you, perhaps. Really? Okay. That's interesting. Oh, boy. All right. Phil's hitting at four points. Straight for the drops. Yeah, he's got to be tasting it. He could win this one. Oh, boy.
    29:57
    Very nice, and he hit the lit one, that's 3,000 points there. That's two that he's hit so far that were lit, so he's cleaning up those lit targets, even though he's not really getting too many scraps. Oh boy, that was dangerous. Shooting for those drops with that upper flipper, I would... It's like Maiden once again, you could shoot that left outing. Oh! Beautiful! 3x of lit because he got the 1, 2, 3, 4. Now, he really wants to build up his bonus. So how does he throw up? The tosser lit as well. 7,000 and what? Like 1, 2, 3? There might be a light out, honestly. Oh, okay. No, he's got 17,000 because the 10 is lit.
    30:31
    All he really, he wants to build up his bonus now. And look, the pops are lit, so there's going to be some points there. Boom, boom, boom. Look at that. 5,000 points. Just like that. 6,000. 7,000. 10,000. Look at that. 7,000 is just permanently on. So he's at 21 right now. Yeah, he's got a good bonus. He's hitting the... Oh, man. Very nice shot. and he just has that lower drop. That will just be his first completion. That's his second. That's his second? That will light Spinner Lane for him. And his bonus is very close to maxed out if it's not already. Yeah, there's that Spinner Lane. There you go. It's time to crush it, Phil Burnbaum. It's time to crush it. Boom! From 80,000 to... Look at that thing go! Oh, my God. It's less than 100,000. Wow, that was incredible. Look at that thing. Oh! That was pretty careful. Hold the boom. Hold the boom off. Oh, wow. What an in lane. Oh! No. He deserved that. He got the world's most charitable in-land, and then he beat the spinner shot, and he drained just as he should. I mean, he came back too fast. It's pretty hard. I mean, we all know we play pinball, but adjusting to a fast ball is just a chance. And Phil's no spring chicken. Right. But that was an incredible ball compared to the other guys. No, it was over 25, I think. I think 160, actually.
    31:45
    Right? 160? I thought 260. He had 160, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. He was at 150 before bonus almost. Oh, boy. Oh, my. Okay. So, Colin Urban's stepping up. He looks like he's going to try to get control, wrestle for it a little bit. Oh, my. So, you're right. That seven light is definitely locked on. Yeah. The weaver has that.
    32:05
    And, you know, Phil had his pops lit for most of that ball. Yeah. So, I think a good chunk of that points. Yeah. I've got to make you a t-shirt later. I'm just going to keep saying it because nobody ever mentions the pops on this game. Another game you can do that on is Stellar Wars. Oh, yes. Oh, this is trouble. Oh, boy. Just a little bit of a shake. Oh, boy. You know, everybody saw Phil get the taste of that spinner. And it's like when you're walking next to a barbecue joint, and, you know, you just kind of smell something walking out. They've all had a scent now of that barbecued, of that brisket, that spinner that he banged just two or twice, three times. Twice? That was enough. But they all see the taste, and they're all in now, I think, on that spinner. You know, in that, you know, Phil won the first game, right? I mean, he runs out with game number two. He has eight points. He's kind of out of league on his own. You want to stop thinking about getting second place as well. I agree with you. Oh, boy, this is trouble. Oh. Oh, my God. Wow. Definitely don't want to shoot that closer. Well, he was just trying to, I just don't think he needed to do that cute live catch thing, whatever that was. He could have just dropped like that. Yeah. Maybe just flip out of there. I don't know. That was unfortunate. Alright, so Phoebe's back. Nothing much happened between his goals. Well, we don't know that for sure, but between his... correct, nobody put up any points. He's just going to go back to doing the same exact thing he did before. Right, and you're going to see him shoot for that spinner if you just get it up there. And you'll see with those active pops, except for the dead one, the one on the right, it'll go up and over again. You might get that 2 or 3x. Going for the drops. Ooh, he hit the lit one that time. So, Levy, how do you get the 2x? As opposed to the 3 you like. Oh, what a save! What a save! That was amazing! I thought he tilted! I was just thinking about that. Oh, and his pops are lit. I love it. I love seeing lit pops. Is he going to survive this? No. Oh my god! Wow! Watching a classic master at work! That's what the nudge is! Get it back! It's like wood and metal, no posts, no rubber, nothing. Like watching Michelangelo, Kansas, Christine, Chapel. That is nuts.
    34:21
    There's a reason I love this game, and it's that outlane geometry. And this is 2x. You get some crazy saves off of that. I don't see a lot of saves like that. Most of them you get a lot of drains. Yeah, I don't see a lot of... That was incredible. Now, 1, 2, 3 gives you 2x. Oh, one of them drops, and he's back in business. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Okay, enough. There he's back. He must have one in his pocket now. That's three in a row. All right. He's going to pass it over and go for that spinner, isn't he? No, he's just going to go up and... Yeah. Oh, patience did bounce. Oh, come on.
    34:55
    In my opinion, I don't know why he didn't post-pass it there and try and go for that spinner. Yeah, post-pass was fine. I saw Teddy do it a few times. I'll be honest with you. I love Phil. Great player. Classic guy. He often is completely ignorant of the rules. Yeah. He just rolls Dean and plays games. I mean, he just rolled it and puts up 418,000. Yeah, I'm last.
    35:15
    Did he win that game? No, it was 4-3. Wow. Now it's 4-3, I should say. All right. And as Jermaine said, to your point, it's probably start time to think about second place. Yeah, what does he have? Four, what? 4-18. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right, he's got 4-18.
    35:33
    Collin's got 45. Steve has, like, 20-something. Oh my. This second place right now is completely up for grabs. Yeah, I think it's a good idea to just get back up top, get some bonus. I mean, whether it's you at the one right now. Get some pop love, right? No, but I agree with you. Get up there, get your bonus. Oh my God. All he needs is that one rollover and he will have three X lit. You know that's twice that he's used that upper flip here and nearly died from the right out. And I'm going to rethink that strategy. What happens if you don't flip? Is it straight down the middle or is it dead bounce on the left? I don't know. Who wants to find out? Honestly, I haven't seen anybody not clip yet.
    36:12
    That was very nice. It does look like a dangerous angle. Three times. That survived the pass. Number one, number one. That is perfect. All right, so he's in very good shape now to stake or claim the second place. Man, it's too bad his tops aren't lit. The middle light is 20? The middle light is 20, so right now he's sitting on 66,000 in bonus. Right. He doesn't tilt. Assuming, which you can't really. This game does have tilt warnings. I'm not sure if they can hear him over there, but it does give you that kind of... It does? Is there a warning? It does. The Williams Digitals all have that kind of fart sound. Uh-oh. Oh, it's making like 14 of them. The angry growl. Yeah, yeah. Grrr. Oh, wow. All right, so he's needing, what, one more drop target? That's his second bank? Yep. Yeah, that's one to the second bank. And his bonus is maxed out or closed? It's closed. It's very closed. Oh. But he will still take a lot of bonus there. That was good. Yeah, it separates him from the pack at this point. He's going to sit at 192 with Steve Griffin. Not a decently tall order in front of him now to get a second place. And we have not seen a lot of good things happening for Steve so far in Flash. But maybe ball three is the one. Uh-oh. Oh, nice. That's two in-lane saves right there off the bat. So I think there's some things going for him right now. And we are out of this bench because we don't know, like a modern game, if he actually has any tilt dangers. So we're just going to find out the hard way, I guess. Uh-oh. You know, he's doing all this stuff. Well, speaking of no tilting. Yeah, he tilted. He probably picked up a danger on that save. Yeah.
    37:42
    I was going to say, he has nothing to lose at this point. I mean, they can get the points from Per, but one point up to two. It seemed to me that he was just getting a little cute there. Sometimes these classes, you don't want to play it like you're playing a new Stern game or a 90s Williams game. If the ball's there, maybe sometimes you just flip it. I mean, given that Phil is probably going to win this game, any point matters right now for the other three players. We could be having an 8-3-2-1 or the ever-fun 8-2-2-2. Oh, that's nice. Phil is comfortably through, and everybody else has to scrounge it out. Oh, boy, another terrible ball. It's flashed. So that's a zero guarantee for pair, right? So that's going to get us an interesting situation. Phil Birnbaum wins his second game. He's going to sit on eight points. Phil is through from Ottawa. Phil is through. Phil from Ottawa is through. Congratulations to Phil, the burn bomb, an incredible player. The classic master has done it again. Just, you know, showing us why they call him the classic master. Yeah, that was impressive. So what do we have? So H for Phil. So Colin got second. He's sitting on three. Okay. Two takes last, but still has two points. And Stephen Griffin, even though he didn't have the greatest game, He did get third. He did get a point. So just lay it out for us. If Phil's through and the other guy going through is wide open. Yes. 3-1. I mean, 3-1. If we win the game, move on. If Phil wins again, then it could be some tiebreaker situation. We're looking at a tiebreaker. We all know it's going to be a tiebreaker. But at the end of the day, either way, for everybody not named Phil, your goal right now, win. And what do you do if you fail? You just try to win the next game to rub it in. You just kind of goof around. Yeah, I know.
    39:31
    Maybe you go first. Get the way out. I like to do that. If I'm completely behind, like two zeros, or if I'm through, I like to... Wow, we're already doing it. All right. No, this is actually a different group we're looking at right now. Awesome. That's what I like. Free pinball. We are getting some free pinball. I think that was Juha.
    39:51
    Sweden that we get? Yeah, this is Juha stepping up the Jungle Queen. Yeah, Juhans from, I believe, Finland, actually. Oh, Finland. Oh, he must have come with Oli then. I'm just saying that because he was palling around with Oli, so, you know, they tend to stick together. Oh, boy. Oh, wow! Up and over! Yeah, got him at that. That all likes your double bonus, I believe, if you can get all of your... Yeah, but you didn't get the bee, right? The bee up top... He's the top one, yeah. That's the top one. If you don't get on the plunge... See, that's what I'm talking about! That little kind of flip up where he was trying to... If he'd just flipped there, he would have been in much better shape. I mean, Jungle Queen is one of those games, you can't get cute. There's too many people at the bottom. Just keep going. Too many flippers, not enough slingshots. Don't get too... The geometry is weird enough that it's just going to be literally bad. Raymond Davidson, house ball. Rade House. All right, so that's Sabbath Ball 5. Yes, we're on the last ball here at Jungle Queen. Derek Thompson is stepping up to the machine. So 49, 66, 42, and 25 for Raymond. And this is the double bonus ball. Oh, that's correct. So those lanes... Oh, my goodness. Wow. Wow, what a moonwalk. In lanes and top lanes. Oh, boy.
    40:58
    That's not what he was looking for. So just a quick jungle queen. Well, not much to know on this one. Hit the drop targets, it will add bonus. Top lanes will add bonus. Those holes in the top are always lit for 5,000. And completing your drop target banks will light those lanes for 5,000. The one that I just got, yeah.
    41:15
    But I think right now you're looking at drops. You really want bonus because your bonus fall. And hit the knee aim, right? So if you do a nice ricochet shot, you only get one bonus, right? Correct. If it's too fast. Yeah, if you knock two drop targets, you're only getting one bonus. You're going to see people maybe use those top flippers sparingly sometimes or to tip it over. Yeah, mostly those are going to be used for guiding the ball. So if it's coming down one of those orbits, on some machines you can pick up that flipper and tip it over. And Grant here, this is Grant, correct? Yep. Putting together a pretty solid ball, considering he has a lead, this is really going to set him up to win this game. I was just going to say that. And Grant needs it having only one point.
    41:56
    Yeah, he's looking to take a commanding bonus right now. What does he have now? 20,000 right now. Yeah, is that going to get him to the roll? No. He's not going to get to the 100,000, but he's going to be darn close. 96,000. Very small score on the queen.
    42:12
    Grant from Arizona is showing us how we do Jungle Princess. Ironic, considering the lack of foliage in Arizona. I heard he's pretty dry over there. Yeah, just like here, kind of. I'd say the lack of foliage here, too. I actually watched a tumbleweed go past the street right outside. Oh, he's from Arkansas. He's from Arkansas, folks. Plenty of trees in Arkansas. Oh, that was an unfortunately poor ball. That's the problem with those EMs, right? Like, it's ball five, the biggest ball, double bonus, ready for you, and you get nothing. And Hua is looking at the unfortunate possibility of a double zero. Well, I mean, the Redman is only 25,000, so he needs... That's 5,000 right there. That helps his cause. Don't forget... Oh, that's nice. That's two bonus advances. I think he's already very close. No, he's currently sitting with bonus at 39,000 right now. Yeah, and he's hit a few more. He's got a bit of distance. Yeah, he needs some more bonus. Or you can shoot for those holes, too. I think he's going for the holes. I mean, he was going for the top target, so maybe... Oh, boy. The top side is just safe here. Oh, boy. Oh! What a layup. Oh, okay. But that's going to give him a fair chance at a third. And that's what you need, the 5,000 outlay in there. You're right. That's money right there. That's the secret of Jungle Queen. The outlays are worth 5,000 points. Oh, my God. So sometimes you can win a game or lose a game on outlay. Was that ball five? That is ball five. All right. He nearly picked up two points. He was only 3,000 away. Very close. So we're saying that if he didn't get that in lane, he would have had zero. If he didn't get that in lane, he would have been very close. Yeah. Wow. You know, that's great because you pick up the four points to start it. You just don't want to follow it up with a zero. No, I mean, you never want to get a zero. Well, if you get a four, it's a zero.
    44:08
    Yeah, that's true. So another exciting... Thanks to our awesome production team for getting us some free pinball there. That was great. I'm not sure if we're going to stick with this group or move on. So when we say production team, it's just Carl, right? Let's just remind everyone that Carl does everything. I don't know if I'd say Carl does everything. We have Emoto Hardy behind the camera doing all of our live shots. So if you see the mobile cam going around in between players, that is all Emoto right now. And I think... I just met at the booth on the production side. Yes. Yeah, well, I think it also cannot be understated the contributions that we bring to the booth. Really? If there's no booth, there's no stream. So in some ways it is the most important. I mean, streams are commentators are a tad boring. You've got to say, just watching Dead Air's pinball is... You know, the NFL famously, in like 1980 or so, NBC decided to present an announcer-less game. No? No announcer. Oh, my God. They were like, we're always no announcers? How did that go? It went very, very poorly. But the ratings weren't bad. It was a bad game at the end of the season that nobody was going to watch anyway. Oh, okay. But it's up there on YouTube if you want to check it out. It is a strange experience. And it was a little revolutionary because they had to up their graphics game without any commentators. Oh, so they were still showing a lot of information. Yeah, they were kind of primitively doing a little more than they usually did as far as words. They also asked the announcer at the stadium to talk more than usual. You can hear some of that. Yeah. You know, it's a curio in NFL history. Right. And you can find that on YouTube along with videos of cats, you know, playing with yarn and such. Things like that. All right. So cats playing with yarn is fantastic. We are in no way trying to kill time here. We are just celebrating this awesome pinball we've been bringing you. I think you'd have to admit we've seen very booming pinball plays so far in this series. Top players doing what they do on good pinball machines. It's almost exhausting. I would say interesting pinball machines. I mean, it's a last bang. There's a lot of different types of pinball machines. So you can think machines you don't see usually. I mean, Cosmic Princess or, you know, Dolly is not the most common machine you put on a Classic Bank. Horseware, Comet. Yes, you would definitely not. People are avoiding that Comet like the plague. I don't think we're going to see that. Is there a reason for that? You know, Keith Owen picked that yesterday. In finals. You did. How'd it go? He won. Call him. Really?
    46:36
    Yeah, all right. I mean, he won that machine, then lost it and went out. They took the gate out, right? So he can't trap the ball? Yeah, they took the left gate out. And I'll give my personal anecdote to that. So it was about an hour left in qualifying. And I'm like, okay, this ticket's bad. I'm going to avoid it, and I'm going to take some quick games, see if I can do something well. First game I step up to, Comet. What happens to the Comet? I get three house balls. And I go up to the storekeeper and go, I'd like to avoid my ticket, please. All right, we're killing some time here. It was a $15 game of Comet. But we are currently right now waiting on... I was just looking at the other games, right? So we have four groups. We just saw the Fizz group. Then Katie George still finishing on Surfer. That's the one group still on. Actually, they played Comet. Eric Stone picked Comet. Did he win? He did crush it. He has eight of the two. So Eric is still studying. Eric Stone is moving on. Phil Birnbaum is moving on. Is anybody else through yet that we can announce? Nope. Right now, given Surfer and the situation we're in. Shout out to Triad. Actually, DJ is through. Essentially, or yes? Let me run the numbers right now. Adam McKinney is currently playing his ball, but...
    47:56
    Okay, so DJ is... DJ is 3 of 3, so he must have something more bold. DJ is through. Yeah. DJ and Adam are both through, actually. Oh, okay. Wait, no. DJ, Adam, Phil. DJ is... Okay, you know what? I can't say DJ is through. I've seen shenanigans involving DJ thinking he's through. We're not ready to call it, folks, but you'll be the first to know when we know. He's close. So DJ is a local player from PA, right? Yes, he's a local player from PA. So you guys traveled together here? We didn't actually travel together. I traveled a lot with the New York crew. Oh, you did? Yes. Interesting. I'm currently staying in the house of a bunch of New Yorkers and Mahesh and Amy Murphy, who are both from Pittsburgh as well. Oh, nice. I think that's a... I've been coming to Indies for five years, you know, being on the West Coast. That's the largest group of, you know, people from the East Coast that I've seen. Yeah, like everybody is here. You know, I was at MAGFest in Florida and Maryland last weekend, and like 15 MAGFesters are here, including Stephanie Traub, who took down the Women's Championship. Congratulations to Stephanie. That's awesome. Stephanie Traub's here, Elliot Teague. A lot of people from down in the Virginia, D.C. area represented as well. Also, a fair amount of New Englanders. As we saw, Joe Lemire, third in Classics 1. That's right. The Lemire train is tough to stop once it gets going. Oh, my God. I have been in a way of that. He's looking good in Maine. He's all gassed up on G Fuel. That guy loves G Fuel more than anybody I know. Does he? Yes, he loves G Fuel. More than you. Isn't that what you have in your cup down here? No, no. He's wearing the G Fuel hat right now. This is Mr. G Fuel, and if he's saying that someone else likes that more, I'm pretty sure that's a compliment. All right. Here we go. I'm diving into this chat a little bit.
    49:38
    Yes, try it. Flippers rules. I'm wearing a Flippers pinball shirt. That's a great event, as Luke Bevins knows. Please finish fourth at Flippers. Yes, I finished fourth at Flippers. It's an arcade in Outer Banks, North Carolina. They do it around Thanksgiving every year. I would highly recommend it. It's a great location, great arcade. and for your money, you pay like $50 in it, and it's free play, and you get a shirt. It's great. Remember the tournament that happened at the 10th time? Yeah, it was free play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that's going to happen next year. They might be doing it a little earlier. I think there's a one-week difference this year, but the MAGFest format is fantastic, where you... Shout-out to the Yankees fan, New York. That's it. I'm actually an Orioles fan, but whatever. So, group two, we do have DJ with six, Adam with five, and Kenny two. Ali. With three of the ones. So, they are looking good, but they are not 100% through at this point. All right. Muhammad Ali, the greatest. Ooh. This is a great game. Great game. Very purple. Representing a great man. Yeah. Muhammad Ali, the greatest heavyweight champion in history. The first three-time heavyweight champion in history. And we're going to see what role his game has in this championship match. You want to give me the basics on this? You basically go for those drops and the spinners, kind of like every other game from around this time. Spinners is not that good. No? Yeah, because it's so far away from the flippers. Yeah, so on this game, your number one goal is to work on these drop targets. Those three drop targets will advance your bonus multiplier. Okay, so that's big. And they stay bowl to bowl. Yes, they phase ball to ball. And once you get enough bonus, you've got a nice lane right here. The uppercut shot. Yeah. You can uppercut your bonus. Yeah. And that does not reset the value, right? You collect X and the value stays. Yes. So it's get it done early and it carries over. Much like the uppercut, the thunderous uppercut that Joe Fraser landed on Muhammad Ali at Madison Square Garden in 1971, sending him to the canvas. That uppercut can indeed knock out your opponent with multiple, multiple bonus collects. Yeah. It's a tough shot. I mean, it sounds like a money shot, but it is a pretty tough shot. It's not that tough. I mean it pretty late on the creeper and the kick is not the greatest on this one What the kick Towards the right Or the center Yes it kind of like a kick So you saying if you playing this you not going for the uppercut I mean, you need a certain value to make the wrist watch it. You know, if you get a good amount of bonus... And you pump that uppercut up from the left drop target back? Everything wrist-bonuses this, right? It's fairly... All the greatest targets, the top three saucers, the drop targets... A lot of things on this game will give you bonus. So, your main goal, off the bat, go for the rope-a-dopes, those three targets right there, build your bonus multiplier, and once you've got a fair amount of bonus... Oh, the rope-a-dopes, up top. The rope-a-dopes strategy that expelled George Foreman in 1974 and Kansasha Zaire, Muhammad Ali, laid on the ropes, let the big man tire himself out. Will these players get tired going for those center drop targets? The rope-a-dopes targets on the left. The left bank over there, which is an interesting twist, give you increasing value based on how many times you complete the bank, multiplied by the number of targets you have. So it goes all the way to 10,000. You can have up to, I don't know, 7, 10 targets. You're saying sweep those drops, knock those drops down, and that just gives you points. And the values stay between ball as well, right? So you could also add bonus. The drops, they do, but the main thing is, if you can complete those targets after you spell greatest, that's 32, that's 48, that's 64, and then after that 80,000 a sweep. Right. For three targets. Three targets. And AB. Oh, okay. That's Phil Birnbaum. He doesn't care. Yeah. He went first. He didn't pick this game, but he went first anyway just to let things get out of the way. He shrugged his shoulders. Just like we said. All right. Now here comes Stephen Griffin. This is still anybody's match to move on. It really is. And, you know, Steve has such a rough run of it, but he's not out of it. And let's see if he can regroup. So one thing that's important, just based on what we explained, is progress is very important in this game. Because nothing resets, right? So having a great ball one can carry you through the whole game. Right. If you do nothing in your first ball and your opponents do something, they're way ahead of the ball for the rest of the game. Yeah. So that 2X will stay? Yes, that will stay. Oh, I was going to say, he may not be able to backhand the left drop, but he did. He did. From a trap, I believe. Yeah. Steven. Steve's off to a good start here. This is exactly what he needed. He kind of flailed a little bit right when he plunged. I was afraid that... Uh-oh. Very nice.
    54:21
    All right, he's going to do that again. I'm wondering if he actually got the pick this game. Oh, he did.
    54:26
    Phil picked the game. Phil picked it. Oh, so he didn't choose to go first. He just picked the game. All right. That's interesting. Phil used the pick even though he didn't need to. Maybe this is a game he doesn't feel like he's going to pick in the future. Maybe he's getting a little practice on it. Yeah. So that's a live strategy. Maybe he knows the number one seed that he might face down the road will want to play. Boom. 4x. He's off to a very nice start here. I feel like he could have got that. He's got 24,000 bonus 4x. That's already 100,000 nearly in bonus right there. Oh, that's all in his... Yeah, he will cast out 142,000 and hold all those bonus multipliers into his next card. We don't need to go to the records, but what do you think a decent game is on this? 300? It's still deadly. I mean, it's feast of priming. I mean, 200, 300 is a good game. So 142 is a very nice start. It's a great start. Plus all the stuff he's got in the bag. I mean, you see a lot of 50,000 balls. I mean, actually, many games under 100,000, 100 to 200 is a different game. And after that, you can get going. And if you have all the value in the body sex, you can blow the game up. All right, simple as this. If Colin beats Care, he will move on, correct? Yes. So Colin now trying to get himself some points. That was very lucky in lane. Those out lanes are deadly. I mean, the design of the other one's thing. The design was just terrible. Oh, mess with. This is a Harry Williams designer's game. I believe. Yeah, it's one of his last designs.
    55:48
    And it's a fun game. I really like it. I mean, so the only other thing is there's three saucers at the top. Yeah, what's that nonsense on it? If you spell Ali, it increases the value when you put on the L. It's not much. 5,000, 10,000, nothing massive. Who's Ali? I don't know, Mohammed? Ah, yes.
    56:05
    Okay, it's in the hole. It's in the pops. Yeah, sometimes you will get multiple holes, though. It'll go down through the saucer. It'll come back up. It'll go back down. it doesn't beat itself in the tournament. Press back any of that on the fly. I don't think you're going to pick off your first rope-a-dope target that way.
    56:21
    Just a reminder here, I mean, Per, Colleen, and Steve have to win. I mean, whoever wins... Yeah, whoever wins this game besides Phil will move on. Is that correct? Yeah. That's correct. Except if Phil wins, we could get some tiebreaker nonsense. But I think Phil's just going to phone this one in, honestly. If Steve wins, there is some tiebreaker nonsense as well, but... Right. Man, he's really... And then after a 0 and a 1, the possibility of not going out is not right. Boom, nailed it. There's his 2X. I've got to say, Pear is getting real cute with these tips, and I wish he would stop it. Because, you know, if you tip it over wrong on these games, that was kind of a nice move. It's going right down the middle. Yeah, that'll cost him another $20,000. Look at the bank there. That was pretty good.
    57:02
    I mean, at some point. Drops. Yeah, I think he's going for the left bank. It looked like it, unless it was a terrible shot to the middle.
    57:09
    Let's assume the good shot. Oh! Oh my god, he walked away! Oh my god! The ball was on the free throw! The ball was on there for half a second! Oh no! Oh my god! Did he see that on the screen? No, no! He turned around, probably heard us yelling over here, and went Oh my god! You know, I have to say, I never walk away until the bonus start counting down. Never! Never. Walk. Never. Let's see if we can get away. Never. Kill your bonus. Never. Walk. Away. Never walk away, ladies and gentlemen. Never do it. That's why you never do it. If he loses this game, that could haunt him. Wait, that's a lead, right?
    57:55
    Right now, even as a leader, Pear has... God, it could have been so much more, though. I mean, you never know. You could have sleeped in the drain, but, I mean... How many times have you been playing some dude, and that happens, and then they, like, get 600,000 points and beat you all the time? Every time. Every time a last-darkest or like a double-danger crazy thing. And now Phil's trying to make things interesting by putting up... What is going on? Gatflash is telling us we've got a greatest... He is now the greatest, so those drop targets on the left are at full value. So now maybe it's actually interesting and we could get into some tie-breakers. Come on, Phil, we don't want a tie-breaker. So if you spell greatest all the way, then your standard target reset, they become unlit. If you spell this again, is that additional letters on top of greatest? You do not want to spell that. So greatest actually holds. Oh, boy. He did it. He did that tip thing. Stop doing the tip thing. That's a different guy. That was clear. You were complaining about that. I just meant he did it. It's okay, Lovey. It's okay. Don't tip.
    58:53
    Sometimes it's good to flip. Sometimes it's good to tip. You got to know when to do each. I mean, on this game, more often than not, flip away. Like, don't get too cute. The slingshot are low. Sometimes they don't dead bounce right. Yeah, or it bounces right into the sling. And all the slings here that I've played have been tight as a drum. I know. I mean, half of setting up the game for Gene must be setting up the slingshots. It's crazy. Or the... I wonder how he's using those slingshots. Because, like, over in the high roller bank, there's a high roller casino, and that thing is the most hectic high roller. Oh, another poor ball from Colin. That's not going to help him. I think he's not far. He's been within reach, though. 155, 117. All right. It's only ball two. I mean, it is the lead. You can have one giant ball and just walk off in the distance. Yeah, Kyle is actually not in the worst shape. Because if he can pull out the win against Per, he does have the lead. So Per has a 16,000 left in here and a 2X, right? Yeah, you know, it's... Oh, my goodness. It's unfortunate. He hasn't made a lot of progress on his X, that's for sure. And he's greatest. I thought he had the true greatest. There must have been a difference. That was Phil, but he will take 30,000 for that greatest completion. Survives the backhand into the pops. And let's take a look. There's a more. The base value is $2,000. Boom. Boom's the rope. It's good value for sure.
    60:08
    Oh, that's nice. More greater points. Did I spot you later? Would that give you points for later as well? Which thing? The left. Oh, the left. Oh, and it drains down the middle. What's he going to end up with? $200,000. Okay. Wow. Blair's making a case for this. Yeah. The pressure is on Colin. I mean, the pressure is on Phil to not win this game. I'd like to see Phil win this just to see the chance of Padre Carre increase. Well, right now. Phil does have his greatest letters, so we can see some greatest action. We can see some bonus multiplier action. Let's see what he goes with. Why is Phil trying to win this game? You know what? You just can't turn this guy on. Uh-oh. Well, at the end of the day, when you're playing and you're already through. No pressure. He's playing super loose. I can't underplay. Come on, let's bank. Yeah, you're still playing your best. You don't want to. Oh, he's going for the upper bank. There's no bonus. No, that's real. He's going for the left bank.
    61:00
    Yeah, but he has to start bonus from zero. He only has 4,000. I mean, one weird ricochet. Uh-oh. Oh. More of that tilt. Oh, that was a tilt. That was a tilt. You know, we've seen some strength skills on Ali. I saw Raymond Davidson giving a little flat on the side, straight to tilt. Paris Schwarzenberger has to be pretty relieved about that, I would think. I would think so. And Colin, for that matter, too.
    61:24
    No, not Colin. Colin would actually like Phil to win, I think. At this point, I mean, it's an option. 4X. He's stepping back up. He's got his 4X. He can work some targets for bonus. He looked like... I think that was a post-pass.
    61:37
    But he will take... He will take a fantastic spinner in. Very nice save. I didn't think he was going to say that. And he gave it a good smack, too. The spinner is not completely useless. It didn't seem a lot. But he did get like 80... He got 80,000 points off that one spinner hit. Oh, okay. And Dormer now, he is taking the lead. Is he collecting 4,000 times 4? He's collecting 16,000. If he hits the last target on the left, that's another 30. So pair now has the lead a small one albeit, but he can add to it even Steven. Yes, he now has the lead Almost 300,000 have it with his bonus. He's going to collect that six thousand time for 24
    62:18
    Look at that uppercut gives him a commanding lead But that out lane is a big out lane that would be good ball. I mean he shot both sides That was really nice. He's over 400 Wow 420 almost Very impressive ball three. Like with Jungle Queen, it's a 5,000-point lane, but because of his bonus multiplier, that actually was a 31,000-point outland. Yeah, very nice. Yes, you want to go that way. Wow. Colin, it's no one ever. If Perry's second, there could be a tiebreaker with Steven, but... A tiebreaker. Oh, sorry, no. Colin's second. Yeah, so right now, Colin is looking first things first. Nice, but I can't sweep on that great effect. Did you see that? That was beautiful, but 24,000 points? He's got himself... He still has some work to do. He needs more later, that's the problem, right? Even the later progress, if you don't play a lot... Oh boy, oh boy, that's trouble. Oh! And the red line is out. Was that last? That was a 12,000 point wax, so... It didn't matter. He was getting last either way. Okay, so he's out, and what does this mean now? That means Colin is out. Yeah, and what about Per and Steve? Per right now needs to win to get through. All right. High drama. Can he double his score and advance? Can he double score and advance? What does he have? He does have 3X. He's got some greatest letters. 5 minutes. And he's had the determination to win. He does have 8,000 here, right? So that's 40,000 plus a certain base value. I think it's about 50,000. He picked up a few more letters. He's just got to survive. He's got to survive. Right now, the gauntlet has been thrown down by Steve. What an incredible ball by Steve. Yeah, he is making sure that everybody's got to play their Ali. Oh, he's going for the, yeah, 26. All right, let's see if he's going to. Yeah, let's see what he does here. He goes for the backhand. Oh, he's alive. Oh, that's way early.
    64:20
    He survived the pops. Oh, he's got special lead. Oh, is that not? That's 10,000. That's right. Yeah, it's not stars, unfortunately. Yeah, not a lot of bonus right now, but that didn't change the trip for the pop-up. Come on, 10,000. Nope. More bonus.
    64:34
    More bonus? Oh, nope. He tickles the pop-up. Yeah, you do. 10,000. He tickles the target, so he gets three. Oh, what a save. Is he still alive? Yep. Wow. All right. No trap. He went straight back on. Yep. Hey, don't worry now. He's clawing his way back into this thing. Yeah, right now his bonus is sitting at 48,000, so he's getting there. And 310, 320. He's under 100K. He's under 100,000. I mean that target right there this target is 56,000 points. He's gathering his stuff. That's very nice. I don't know what that is. That's the largest hit. Oh my god. That cat ran out of lives and I don't think that bonus is going to do it. He tilted. He tilted. It still wasn't enough. That was a great run. Yeah he just ran out of lives. Wait wait he has 5x. He doesn't have 20,000. He had 5x12. So that means he won. Because the pink light is the 20,000 light. You know, that cat just ran out of lives there. He had so many saves. Wow, what a game. Another great game. Of course. So Steve Griffin and Phil the Burn Bomb are the best. He's 170,000. That's good. That's a chance that gets him all. Steve Griffin, fantastic game of our league. Are you as far as up as I am? I just can't believe the amount of booms we're seeing here. I mean, I'm not even going to lie. I can't believe the amount of booms we're seeing here. I mean, as we said, he was last third, and then he moved on. He was the last game. He stepped out. Anything can happen in pinball, especially here at Indy 2020 Classics 2 Finals. It never drains in Southern California. Right. So that was top 16, right? So those guys move on to the top eight. Yeah. Now you're talking out of 230 people. Serious whoppers. Yeah, and good money. I mean, there was a lot of money being dropped in today. So I think the payout is going to be decent. Cash. I mean, people have to pay for their flights and transportation. None of that stuff counts. No? No. Doesn't count. You don't play pinball for money or the living? You're not an official pinball player? Nobody really counts the expenses. Let's see what they can win. For a reference, anybody going through is getting a $360 paycheck. Is that true? $360 to the top eight guaranteed. Wow, that's incredible. Top eight, $360? That's amazing. Yeah.
    66:49
    Let's talk about the Whoppers. What are we looking at here for the top eight in a huge classics tournament like this? I think you need to go to your friend Greg for that one. I'm just going to throw it out here. I think eighth place gets about 30. 30 whoppers. 30? Maybe more. You know, we were looking yesterday. Maybe more, right? Maybe. There's 100 people in this frigging thing. 200. I have a team. 200. Yeah, I mean, we were looking yesterday at Indy last year at the main to try to compare with a classic this year. Right? Because last year there were 200 people. This year, that's every day in classics. 200 people. I still can't believe. We're going to get some bonus.
    67:24
    Steve survives the walk away. He walks away and lives to flip another day. No, no, no. Pair walk away. You keep getting Steve and Pair backwards. But we do have some intense dolly action. The dreaded 8-2-2-2 has been drawn.
    67:41
    8-2-2-2? Wow, we just talked about that. Mr. Stone? So Mr. Stone is through. Stone's through. Steve J. Ryan. It's ball two. And Ryan is playing right now. And Ryan is player four. Ryan from Colorado. Come on, Kimball. Whichever one of these three wins this game is moving on. We know he's lit already. That's a good start. Spinner's lit. And boom. Beautiful shot. As we saw yesterday, that dolly spinner is a sleeper. You don't usually see dolly spinners that are giving you 30,000, 40,000. Yeah, I was going to say it's not like that flash. But for a bally, it really does give a healthy spin. Nice in lane. And the spin, that's going to put him up there with Jay Collins right now.
    68:25
    It's going to have to see the score. He has 80, right? Yeah, he's got 91. Jay Collins is sitting on 122. I was going to say he might want to start going for those multiplier targets, but probably just keep going with that spinner. I would keep going with the spinner, honestly. So multiplayer attack is just like Paragon, right down the middle. We've seen a lot of ricochets right down the middle. The flippers are pretty strong. If you forehand it, it's pretty dangerous. The back end doesn't seem to go in. Did Martin kill that ball? No, he didn't. No, he walked away and, I don't know, I think he... 10,000 bonus. He's probably shaking his head a little bit, but I'd say he's pretty happy with himself. Other than two, right? Is that 120 or is that 20? That's 102 for Eric Stone. I don't mean for player three. 122 for Jay Collins. All right, so that's really where it's at. This is just, this is exhibition pinball as Eric Stone is already on. And as our nice man over at the Telestrator showed us, thanks to the power of Scorbid, you can actually see the scores live right at the bottom of your screen. That is mind-boggling. Breaking ground again.
    69:32
    Breaking ground again. The InDesk production team of Carl D'Angelo and Carl D'Angelo. And, of course, your social security numbers and all your information as well.
    69:42
    Okay, so we got Steve. He's got a lot of work to do if he wants to. Oh boy. Oh, he's gone. I was going to say, do or die. I didn't even have a chance. So now it doesn't matter what Eric does, right? So it's between, Steve is already out. So it's between Jay and Ryan. Yeah, Jay the Indus Technician. Shout out to all the Indus Technicians. Oh, he fumbled that, didn't he? Yeah. I mean, just Valley Trigger is sometimes a little heavy, a little slow, right? So by the time you went back down. Ryan has it in bonus or almost has it? No, Ryan's currently sitting on $16,000 in bonus. That would put him at a guaranteed score of $125,000. He is so crazy. Some crazy things can happen. All he's got to do is nail one of those drop targets. And there's outlands that are only worth $1,000 here. There's no freebie like... There's no free Ali. There's no free Jungle Queen here. You've got to work for it. So would you go for the drop target? Yes, I would do that. That doesn't give you any X, right? It does. Oh, that's not going to do it. That's not going to do it. 127. 126. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my gosh. And he put a seat of his pants. And he popped love, one stand up or two, and he would have been there. Jake Holmes is going to need a new pair of pants after that. And it's not because he has the key of the machines. It's not because he set up this machine that he won. It was just fair and square. Yeah, no, it was that technician's karma, let's put it that way. Jay is so excited. Jay is so excited he's moving on Eric Stone is moving on holy monkey indeed holy monkey yeah that was pretty cool and right now we've still got one group playing on Wizard I believe that's going to be our last group but we are here again at Indus 2020 Classics 2 finishing up our round of 16 never walk away just don't do it it's not worth it wasn't that the craziest thing That was the wildest. You walk away full on the picker. It was up there. But we are going to go to an interview now with Jeff Teolis.
    71:52
    All right, Jay Collins, congratulations on advancing on Dolly. That's pretty good. Thank you. Yeah, I was a little lucky, I think, at the end there. Ryan got a house ball and maybe a flip, but, you know, we'll take it. It happens. It's a spin ball. Yeah, well, and also remember, too, that you set up that game for this specific moment knowing exactly how to win when needed. Yeah, did I? No? Well, I set it up for a previous tournament. I'll be honest, I did.
    72:18
    I brought it over, but I didn't bring it for me. Jay, come on in the shot here. I think I'm being facetious. Obviously, you played very, very well. And here's the impressive thing, too. See this right here? This guy has been working his butt off, and today is the first time you played, isn't it? I did play a high-stakes entry late last night. Nah, that doesn't count. That doesn't count. Okay, yeah, I got to play today, which is nice. I've seen techs like yourself just go nonstop on these games. Thank you very much because there's a lot of machines here. 18 over there, 15 here. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, and I mean, it's nice to be able to get one in because... It is, yeah. Because I like to play pinball, not just pick pinball. Well, you've got another round. You've got at least three more games. I do, yeah. All right, Jay, thanks very much. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Okay, back to the booth.
    73:02
    And welcome back to the booth. We are currently waiting on the last game of the round of 16 on Wizard. And I believe, given the playoffs right now, we're going to get some boobies pinball. That's right. We've seen a group for us, a tiebreaker for moving on. Kaylee and Adam McKinney.
    73:20
    We're in the bone zone with some bonus pinball. This is very exciting. And it's going to be Wizard, you said? Yes. No, Wizard is group number three still being played, where Raymond Davidson is fighting for his life. Tiebreaker hasn't been decided. I believe. Yes. And for reference, as I said earlier, when I said David got through, DJ got through, he did actually get through. DJ goes through this with eight. Kaylee and Adam are tied at six. Wow. Ty, you see that often in pinball, but they are tied at six. You know, it happened to me yesterday. I tied at six in the first round of the traffic finals, and I lost my tiebreaker to Adam McKinney, which is tied at six again. Well, there we go. We're going to probably watch some bonus pinball with Adam McKinney in a little bit.
    74:03
    There's. Going away at wizard right now. I'm gonna see if I can step up here and see if there's any scores of note Right on the wizards. Um, you know, there's a zero for you Ha and then we have a five five in the four Derek Thompson at the floor Raymond and grant as a five So really the top two could just move on. There's not a scenario here where they could tie but we could have some tiebreakers Sure Speaking of wizards... Looks like they're rolling the rig over to wizard. The guillotine has been placed above wizards. We are off to see the wizard. The wonderful wizard of Anne-Margaret and Roger Daltrey.
    74:42
    Wow, it looks like Raymond is about to step up and plunge. And we're about to see that right now. We are one in this game that we are going to hop to right very soon. And wizard has been a test of skill. You can't really post fast from the SGI, so people are being... You can stand if that's tricky. And it's tricky. I mean, but that's not there's nothing else to do. I mean, it's really do the move or die. There it is Not much to do here. You're really trying to get that spinner and also the third flag. That is the Stand-up on the left the lowest one that will let your double bonus flag and that's really what you want to do Yeah, huge so that both for yeah both on ball for right now and Raven that has a rolled this game No, no, Ray's thousand extra points. It looks like Oh, there's a malfunction.
    75:28
    Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. He's not going to get that one back, but he's going to sit decently comfortably right now. With those extra points in his pocket, he's got 61,000 right now. That's a pretty fairly low score. We've seen most score being above 100,000 on a good game. So after four balls, it's dangerous. It's still anybody's game, but right now I'd rather be the one that's at the lead. Sure, sure. With the ball in hand. Yeah, it's a pretty low-scoring game of Wizards so far. I mean, so Wizards has kind of a plateau, right? I mean, once you hit the 19,000 bonus, maybe a double bonus, you get to 38,000. Yeah, then you just have a better... They've got a lot of things to do after that. You know, 100-point spinner when it's complete. 100-point spinner. 3,000 points off. You don't wail on that 3,000-point stand-up in the middle? Right, you don't do that. It doesn't even work that way on this one. All right, let's see what Garrett Thompson does. So he's already hit one 5,000-point target. That was, I think, just a random circumstance, but it looks like it's going to go pretty high fast. Can someone ask Derek to remove his hat? Oh!
    76:31
    And he has to be careful. That wizard has tilted us and a few people. I mean, it's a heavy bonus game. You only can afford, I mean, 5,000, 9,000 at this point. You don't want to lose them. This is game three. Okay, so let's see. Everybody's still in this except you, uh... Clear four. Stepping up is 40,000. Yeah. So you really want to get that skid shot nice in the hole right there. That's 3,000 points and then 3,000 bonus But that's 6,000 plunge. I found this one to be super friendly up there It usually just seems to bounce in there no matter what you do on the plunge. Pretty much. So let's see The most skilled of plungers will get a roll over it But and here you really most most time you do the track. How close you can let it bounce over though I think that time he could have and now he's in left flipper jail. Let's see what he does with it I kind of like the drop catch alley pass myself, but I really love my alley pass Oh wow, he shot something with it. That is dangerous. Oh, that was fortuitous. Oh my god, in this passer. See, that would have been a bounce too, I think. Do you think that's the thing? Shooting through the pops to get into the passer from the left? It is now, baby. That is... Is it a thing? Let's see if it's a thing. It's not a thing, but it does give him the longest pass from left to right that I am scoring on Wizard. Power in lane pass. So, sitting at 8,000 bonus, you just really want on the right flipper to go back up top. Like this.
    77:53
    A little late. That shot is not the tightest, but it's not a very wide shot as well. You get a little bit of ball guide to help you go up there.
    78:06
    Oh, there's his third flag. That's big. He can now get his double bonus. And it is meant to be double bonus. And he's almost maxed out his bonus at 30. And then he's kind of in bonus jail.
    78:17
    Did he match it? Almost. No, he got 28, though. He's going to take a lot of bonus here. I mean, it doesn't matter for him anymore. He cannot move on, but he can score better. No, he's player four. Juha is player four. Grant Morrison is very much trying to put a number on this game. And he does take the lead over Raymond Davidson's slightly... The reels are lying to me. Okay, that would grab him.
    78:42
    There's just no option for him to move on to the next round. Correct, but more points, you know, be... More Whoppers, possibly more money, if that's how it's set up. Yeah, Juha up at the machine right now, looking to see if he can make something interesting. Take a win, get himself some good position, and maybe even get us some bonus, super bonus pins. I bought the triple egg omelette that nobody likes. Oh, no. I mean, the classic triple egg omelette is a respectable thing. Oh, what a tap! The tap on this machine is very tight. Very tough, and it goes into that sling most of the time. What was tapping? Raymond. Oh, that was beautiful. Oh, my goodness. Very nice.
    79:21
    This is definitely not Raymond. Yeah, if you were here at the booth yesterday, you would have heard Escher Lefkos say, shats for show, or shats for dough, tap for show. And he is showing it up. I'm a little confused. Yeah, this might be the order. I thought he was just playing. Did he play out of turn? No, that was player three. Juha is player four who just played and almost tied Grant. 66 to 65. All right, so Grant is in the lead and he's already going for the win. Yeah, Raymond Davidson sitting on 61,000. Don't trust the reels there. There was a malfunction. Right. And nobody is through yet. Nobody is through yet. 16,000 more? Is that what we said? Yeah, it's about 13,000. Oh, boy. Oh, no. Can you say it? Got a little cute there. Yeah. I don't know if that's really got a little cute or just tried to do something with it. I mean, he didn't flip.
    80:16
    I mean, the drop catch, I found, was the best way to ready. Because you don't know sometimes the dead bounce is not strong enough. Sometimes the trap, you get into the sling and it goes out of control. That's a last place for Raymond. That's very... No, that's a lead for Raymond. He's currently sitting at 69,000. But on Wizard, that's not a great place to be, 3,000 ahead of Simon. Oh, yeah, right, because the 12,000 additional. Yeah, so here, Derek really wants to... He just wants to go to that spinner. So he passed Raymond. He's pretty much in, right? Yes, absolutely. If he passes 69,000 right now and passes Raymond Davidson, he will... Oh, there it is. That's what he wants. Let's get some more, baby. He may not guarantee himself a spot, but he will make at least a tiebreaker of it. All right, let's see how he handles this. He's got 51 with bonus here, so... He wants to get that ball over to the right flipper. And he alley passes it perfectly and then misses the spinner shot. But he gets a bonus. He's going to get another chance. So he's at 63,000 right now with his bonus.
    81:11
    Another nice valley pass, but it was a little faster than they wanted. He kind of panicked. There you go.
    81:17
    One more scoop. As long as it's on the right flipper, right? Yeah, one more saucer and he's in. Yeah.
    81:23
    Boom. Now is this going to be it? Too strong. But he's going to pick up some bonus there? No, he's not. Oh, let's it bounce over. Oh, no. Oh. What is that? He's not going to do it? That's not going to cut it out. He's going to fall behind Raymond. Which, but as it comes out, those 12,900 points were valuable. And behind Grant. Derek's not very happy about this. Yeah, Derek Thompson, it takes the last on our game four. Does that guarantee now that Raymond and Grant are moving on? Yeah, Raymond and Grant are now through. Congratulations, guys. That's a tough loss for Derek. All he really needed was to just bounce in that hole. As it's done so many times before for so many players to just bounce safely into the hole. It is 50-50, though. If you really nail that spinner, it does most of the time just go too strong. It would have done it then, right? You have to shoot a little late. It would have done it. One hole would have done it. It would have. Just say that to me. Yeah. It was one hole short. Just one hole short. One thought there was yours. The ball did not go in the hole. That was very tragic indeed.
    82:29
    Incredible. another another nice... Derek Thompson, Derek Thompson the defending champion from Classic 2 last year he won last year, yeah. He was trying to defend his title, his name up on the banner Well, right now Juha is looking like he might win this game and be able to take himself a nice four points So that would be 74 as a target? Yes. And he's got 6,000 bonus, there you go. Right now as long as he doesn't tilt Juha will maybe not go through but at least get himself a respectable four points, tie Derek Thompson at four That's right, so that would be Gran at 7, Reimann at 6, and the Eric and the Juha at 4. The old tap pass into the sling. As this game is fairly, well, I wouldn't say it's meaningless, because it means something to Juro. So what happened to the tiebreaker on the other side? Right now... Has it not been played? Are they waiting for... I think they're just waiting for that last game. This is the last game of the round right now. They must be waiting for Wizards. There would be no reason for them to start, or maybe they're just waiting. Just in case of a tiebreaker. And you have now won this game, I believe. So that's nice, you know, it's nice to come out with a win after taking two zeros in a final. Very well played. Okay, technically he does have 500 points short right now.
    83:40
    If there was a weird... Okay, now we're good. But if there was a wild tilt and the tilt bob just decided to... Speaking of divine intervention.
    83:49
    What happened? That's a stuck ball. Oh boy. We are stuck. Is that? I swear, he could just stick it loose. He already was. He could just stick it loose. I mean, I think at this point, you've got to at least... Walk away with five. Yeah. Well, you've got to at least get Bob Madden involved. Isn't it really worth, like, taking ten minutes of this to take... Just knock it, dude. Oh, yeah. All right. And he didn't kill it either. But for reference... Oh, he's still going. Yeah, he's still going. The man's still... The man is an animal. And then he tapped us. He rolls it. No, he actually gets 5,000 short. You don't know. Honestly, at the end of the day, I would say, you know what? I've got this ball stuck. Hey, Bob, have you seen this stuck ball before? That is a pretty rare response. I've never seen that ball stuck yet. So Raymond Davidson survived by picking Wizard by her hair. Yes, he did. Her hair. Up for 2,000 points. Not surprised to see him pick it. That's a very controllable game. That's his go-to machine. That's his go-to for a lot of people. All right, that was great. That was cool. One more round. You know, it's been a while because I think it's been a while. People are wondering who we are. I'm Lewis Bevins. Let me name him. Jermaine and we're really thrilled to be joining you as my ticket finally bleeds out I am currently in the fourth place you're up 48 you beat Spicebutt in one round of Classic yeah there was a behind you in the chat that was like Levy you should be looking out for those Leapers and uh well you're not out yet but you are on the floor weaving over in a puddle of your own blood right now we have to charge a sacrifice to dedicate yourself to the stream and the pinball community instead of playing pinball I think I could have easily put together a winning ticket, but I decided instead to impart my knowledge and the chemistry with these two great guys and bring you the best booth in pinball, the best produced stream bar none I've seen in my entire life, and great pinball, hot pinball action. And there's a little more to come. And that has nothing to do with the 200 people trying to quantify and the 30-minute queue behind us. Have you ever seen, like, The Fall of Saigon, like stuff like that? Oh, my God. I think that's a tiebreaker. Oh, it's our tiebreaker. Kenny George with Stimber. I just don't want any part of what's going on back there. It's like, you know, I respect them for doing it, but I think this is the first time we have that on the screen. Lewis, do you want to? Yeah, I'll handle this one. This is a fun game. Also, it's on five ball, not three ball, which is very rare to see in a tournament for a digital game. No, I mean, that is really an EM with the usual scoring, right? Let's be clear. But it's much faster. And also, the EM, I don't think it's five bats. That's neither here nor there. They're playing the digital. It's quite simple. You see that drop target, the single on the right, the left? That's 1X, then 2X, then 3X, and so on. That was a terrible ball. It got housed right down the middle. It needs to be very careful. People have been plunging that lane straight down the middle. You know, you're almost better off than kind of getting it to go down that lane because you get bonus advance, and it returns safely to the left. Yeah, I found that to work better. EVs are on. Each completed drop target bank will also light one of those top lanes for something. But basically you're just going for drops and you're building a bonus with the spinner and those rollovers. And obviously, four flippers. Yeah, four flippers. The scissor thing is a big danger in this game if you're not careful. Yeah. We all know that can happen. Don't do it. Don't let the ball. Don't be the guy. And then, so people have been saying, right, the flippers are so strong. I mean, they must be the strongest flipper of the whole floor. And shooting the drop target dead on, I mean, it's just death. People have been advising to try to hit with the upper flipper instead so you get a nicer angle, the ball doesn't come back as deadly right down the middle. Don't do it. Don't be the guy. Don't let that ball go between the flippers. Oh, no, but also, this game is... It's very manageable other than the very strong flippers. There is a gen... The tilt is generous on this. You can get away with some whacks and some shakes and... Really? You can... I've been doing a lot of... I felt it on a hard jab. Oh, boy. Oh, I thought that was gone.
    87:50
    Oh, and this is a tiebreaker. Wow. Yeah, this is a tiebreaker. That was K. Joe. Ball one was the house ball. So now it's Adam. That one is tiebreaker at six points yesterday. So he's three. Oh, boy. Very, very well played. Very well handled. You can see he's already taken down his first drop targets. He's got two X bonus now. Those two dangerous ones in the middle, that's going to be two X if he completes them. You mean three X. Three X, correct. Yeah. And the drops, I believe, also add bonus. Yes. Um, it's a bonus game, it's a... Ooh, he waited for the lower figure. Interesting. More bonus there from those rollovers, that's nice. Man, he really would like to get that 2X, especially since that 3X, he's already got one drop down. Oh, nice save. Oh! Almost a... Oh!
    88:31
    That was a thing. I feel like he kind of panicked there. He could have let it bounce over, but he didn't want to be that guy. Uh, was there a Kaylee versus Adam tiebreaker on Baywatch last year? Anybody remember? I think Jermaine just came back. Somebody out there should look at our play-in. I mean, if you go on niggadrens.com 2019, we would have all that information at hand. That's one of the... Oh, wait, so Kenny straight back up. Okay, ball two. Again, five ball... Oh! He's that guy! Kenny George! Our winner last night! He's that guy. Eyes to eyes, kids. Oh my gosh. That's not the one he's been... Kenny George teased out instead. The entire pinball community, the sporting community, the esports community, tens and thousands, untold number of people saw that hat. That's going to be a high-many-money. It's only 214. But probably 1,000, 2,000 or so. Well, you don't know how many people are watching. It could be, like, right there, 214. Yeah, but one of those could be, like, an arena watching it on close circuit. That's right. I mean, we have that in every Seattle bar. Everybody's watching pinball over there. More and more people are watching this fantastic game. I say, sport. Sport. It's made it. Sport. Yeah. At this level, we are clearly watching a sport. All right, fortunately for Caley, he has three more balls with which to prove himself and emerge for choice. And it's a very close game still. Still, Adam's got to be happy with the current lay of the land. He's got a chance to separate himself a little bit here with a little bit of luck and still. He's going to definitely work on trying to get some distance right now, get some bonus, find the thinner drain. He got that one right away. He's controlled that he has no lead still. I didn't like the choice of shots up the middle. So is that the kind of game where if you build a lead, it's hard to... No, not really, because you would need a massive lead to make it. Oh boy, and you're not going to see one here. What a close game it was. Like you said, Jermaine, pretty much it's who does the thing more. And in this game, the thing is get large bonuses and not drain it. So if you actually get to the 5x bonus, your bonus will reset all the way down and it will collect out. Really? Yeah. Yeah, so if you complete the target with at least 50,000 points right there. What is he doing with that towel? He's just wiping that gift. Yeah, he's wiping it down. Getting that Billy George funk off of the game, for some people, is kind of a ritual as well. It is. Nothing personal. I don't think it's just getting it. It could be a funk factor, yes. Yeah, I mean, Kenny may be sweating at the 93 household. I would be sweating in this current position. So Kenny George won a yesterday Classic One. Yeah, he's playing with house money. He's doing fine, and he's a high qualifier, too. Nice. Almost got in trouble with that. Look at that bonus, that's nice. Oh, there's no bonus. You don't get a bonus for that. Who's dead down? Oh, you know what you do get? Oh. A house ball. You get a house ball. Yeah. Those rollovers in that alley on the left advance your spinner, which advances bonus. So it's not that different. Oh, you spin around like this? Yeah, that's one of those things. That's so huge. So nailing the spinner is a good way to advance your bonus. Oh my goodness. Oh, what a save! Oh my, ow. That's the Kaylee George we came to see. Woo! I'm confused. The top names don't light? They light if you complete drop target banks. So each one of those banks, a completed bank, will light something up there, including the lucrative extra ball, which is on. You know it was a close-up of the face of Katie Jones. This is so funny. Terrible game of Stimbat. Is somebody going to claim this game as their own and seize the day, seize the ball, seize the game by the ball? That's full full. There's not a lot of ball left. One more ball, and which one of these two is going to grab this opportunity to advance?
    92:06
    I mean, yeah. These are rhetorical questions. I don't expect you to answer definitively who it will be. I can't think for sure one of those two guys will win. Do you want to make a prediction? Yeah. How do you think one of those two will win?
    92:19
    I think Adam takes it. Oh. I think Adam takes it. Bold prediction. I don't know. I think Kaylee might be able to tweak the comeback here. Let's see what happens on this ball before we see what happens. Should we make this interesting? I don't know, we shouldn't. Almost wiggled that out too, but he will take 56,000. This is anybody's game. It's anybody's game. 5,000 on airplane is 10% of his score. Wow. Championship pinball. Oh, I see we have a KB 5X on ball 5. I think so, yeah. I'd say 3X, let's not go crazy. I'm going to say 4X. The level of play we've seen so far, but it's all gonna come down to the ball. And that's the problem, you don't get a lot of play because you get housed, and then you don't know where the shots are. So even when you get it to cover... Oh boy! Just wipe it away. Yeah, you see that spinner rip gave him three bonus advances. So maybe that's saved. You could also just put that one target will be worth another 5,000. Oh boy! Duck and cover, but he does take the lead! I don't know, man. Anything can happen. Crazy things have happened on Sinbag. Adam has to play this ball. I mean, if you plunge this, you get a little points. No. It advances that. Your spinner close to a bonus advance. But you only get one. Yeah, you get four. So almost one bonus, but not one full bonus. And the pop's another thousand, I assume. I think that's 100 cents. If I'm going to be plunging right now, I'm plunging for the 5,000-point lane up there. It's not lit. I've got five grand. It's not lit. No, it's lit for special when it's unlit. it's five grand. Okay, how about the other ones? Oh, 1,500 and 100. The third one's not 5,000 as well? That 5,000 went lit. I think Connie's shaking his head. I don't think he agrees. Well, it's pretty much irrelevant as it's all coming down to this plunge. All right, let's see. Adam's through with his ritual. He's plunging the ball. Oh my goodness. Let's see what he gets. What do you get? Gold in the thousand? 57. No. Oh no! Oh my god! That's not gonna do it! That's not gonna do it! It happened! It happened! Kaylee links to this guy! Oh my goodness. 4,000 points on Sinbad. I think I've seen him smile on Kaylee's face. I think both people... They're both smiling right now because they both know that they are brothers in arms in having... Oh my god. Kaylee is a hero. He's not even gonna win that game. Kaylee survives. Kaylee puts hands on his protege, Raymond Davidson. Uh, cannot believe he's advancing. Adam cannot believe he's not advancing. It's not advancing, but he's a sport. They shake hands. That's what pinball's all about. Not kicking machines in anger. It's about sportsmanship camaraderie. It's about camaraderie. Doing your best. It's about 15 guys in one hotel room. It's all those things. That's you, I think. That's you. Well, you know, this Saturday night. Is it clowns? Are they clowning the hotel room? I mean, we have eight people in a house, but everybody has a bed. Yeah, that's better than you guys. Different bed? Different bed. Oh, different bed. Yeah, we all have different beds. Okay, enough about our personal lives. I would like to congratulate Kaylee on moving on. We've seen a couple of those. Yeah. It's like, okay, this guy's done. Survived. When was that? Wizard? I can't remember. Wizard had one. I feel like my short-term memory is not what it used to be. I just celebrated my 45th birthday, and it's getting harder to remember what I did. Another day about 25.
    95:46
    Yeah, my memory is not what it used to be. Just celebrated my 45th birthday. Deja vu. All right, so we have the groups of the next round. So, group one, Phil Van Borm, Raymond Davidson, DJ, and Steve Griffin. And group two, Kenny George, Eric Stone, Jay Collins, and Grant Mortensen. And let's see where our rig is going to for this round of eight here at Indus 2020 Classics 2 Finals. All right, you three, what do you want to watch? We've got Phil, Raymond, DJ, and Steve. Can you tell us which games? No game yet. Okay. Which group? Which group? What about, let's go with Phil Birnbaum. I was gonna say DJ and Phil. We haven't seen DJ. I mean, we saw DJ yesterday, but... At this point, if you make both classics, you deserve to get on the stream again. I mean, you look, you know, it's... every day is different. The games are the same, that's interesting. So Classic 1 and 2 here have the same bank, right? Except one game that was broken, they replaced. But, you know, because there are so many games... Classic games, to be reliable, it's a half set up so they couldn't just swap the games. And it looks like the drone is hovering over Jungle Queen, speaking of games. Very nice. That's a fun game to watch. We all like Jungle Queen. This is a great group.
    96:55
    So I wonder if that was a pick. So Phil, top seed, right? Is he using his pick finally? He hasn't already used the pick yet. It's so hard to, you know, we don't know until someone tells us. Oh, that's a pick. Phil doesn't care. I'm just, I'm going to go forward. I'm going to play any game. All right. This is game three. Yeah. Yeah, Phil's gone.
    97:11
    No, this is a new group. Yes. I'm saying now, Evan has a new group. Does he not care and just go forward and be like, Choose the game for me and I'll play anything. I think it depends on whether or not a game He really wants to play is still available to him Or if he's really terrified of playing something else that he doesn't want somebody to pick, you know You know Spanish I'd be nice to put that on camera. I mean Spanish I Know we actually operate now. I don't know why it's off, but no because it hasn't been picked Yeah, nobody wants to take a look. I made it out. It's like
    97:41
    Black pyramid Oh black pyramids out. Yeah Is it broken or did they just not want to watch a long-boring game? The creepers gave in at the end. That's good. That is a terrible game to watch on a SRAM since it's just two shots over and over again. I think we're lucky that we're getting to see this Jungle Queen match. Alright, so Raymond, Player 1, does that mean he picked? Or was it the lowest pick?
    98:04
    Raymond was picked 2, so he must have picked. Feel again, going for it. And let Raymond decide his fate. Well, it's been working for him so well, I think. Yeah, I think. Phil is a very flexible class of players, so he doesn't mind... Very limber. Very flexible guy. And I think he knows nobody's going to pick Komet or Kennecorn, which if you meet him, he's not going to like much. You know what's funny? Phil is a... I'm sorry, Phil is an analytics guy. He invented that stuff, like back in the 70s. Oh, really? Like, no joke. So maybe there's some analytics at play here where he thinks it behooves him to go for it and not pick the game. If he moves on to the final four without having used any of his bits, strong position. Especially unheard of, I would say. Right. By then you face top players, you have no room for errors. Better use the machine you know the best. Is this, so this is the final eight match here now? Yes.
    98:55
    Mistakes are high. So what do we have? So, Raymond from Seattle, Steve from California, DJ from Pennsylvania, and Phil from Ontario. Phil's from Ottawa. Yeah, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Not Toronto, as I mistakenly said before.
    99:13
    Phil is a quiet man. He's a reflective man. Dry sense of humor. Nice head of hair on him for a guy his age. And I think we're lucky to see... Oh, there's Bob Matthews on the camera.
    99:25
    Very descriptive. Yeah, is that... Who's that on the camera? I think that's Jay. Jay, who... Yeah, why don't they own? They are on... They're next to Sinbad? Sinbad it is. Yeah. Kaylee wants more Sinbad, apparently. I don't know if Kaylee wanted more Sinbad. I think somebody else is like, hey, Kaylee, play Sinbad. So they have started, what's this other group?
    99:48
    Kaylee, Jay, Stone, and a Fossbear. Wow, cool group. And Grants. Grants from Arkansas. No, not Arizona, as I said. Grants from Arkansas.
    99:59
    Yeah, I think Ray Day steps up to the queen. He did pick that Sinbad game. Oh, he did? Ray Day steps up to the queen. You already know how to play this, so we're not going to try you again. So plunge the B, right? That's really the key. You want to try to plunge that B, because... And it's just too bad to find that skill shot. I probably... Uh... Not like that. Oh boy! Oh! It's like that, baby! Just like that. Too fucking true enough. Alright.
    100:20
    That speed is kind of high. It's just nicked the upper... Oh, the up and in! And it's... And that's bonus advance, too. That's great. Yeah. He just needs that speed now, and he's got double... Oh, 5,000 in the hole? Very nice start for Ray Day. Very nice start. Yeah, right now he is one C away from double bonus. Oh my god! He saved! That was beautiful. That was stressful to look at. Can you alley pass his T? You can alley pass his T. It's tricky because those... Oh! More bonus! Escher left cough. Yeah, I was about to say, this is the Escher left cough treatment from... Yeah, he wants to take those drops down and maybe get his double bonus. I'm gonna go 5,000. I mean, he's just going for it. Okay, he's gonna alley pass. All right, position time. He's looking at that alley pass. He's tried. Boom! Wow, he's completed the bank. He has 5,000 on the left. Oh! Huge ball. 12,000 bonus. What a start. What a start. 36,000. Isn't that what he had in the whole game last time? Yes. Incredible. Revenge time.
    101:17
    Nothing like playing another game until you have the bad one and just crushing it. Oh, like Steve is coming back. Oh! And Steve has been having a lot of house balls. That wasn't really a house ball. He didn't flip. I mean, he touched the ball, but... He just bumped him there, eh? Yeah. Maybe the plunge wasn't so hot. I mean, the man had a zero and a one, and he moved on. Give him some love. Okay, well, he's got four more balls.
    101:42
    I wonder if he's a local. Lodi, California. Is it SoCal somewhere? Lodi, yeah. Is that a song? It's not like Lady. It's not Lodi. It's No Cal, okay. Yeah, my geography is not good here in California. This is the first time I've even crossed... Ooh, over plunge. Into the Pacific time zone. All right, he's going for drops. Knocks down two, gets credit for one. That's an EM for you. Oh boy, that's interesting. That's what we were saying, you know those upper flippers? Maybe better or not. Yeah, I think he was almost trying to trap up with that upper flipper. Yeah, whack it away or don't use it. I don't think you want to be too cute. All right, here comes Phil. Phil the burn bomb, baby. All right, is he going to be on the same hot streak? Boom, the B. Oh, you got it. The B. All right. Oh, nice extra bonus there. Yeah, it takes a little bit of extra on the road. Oh, my goodness. Oh, come on. Settle down, Phil. What a way to work through a rain. Interesting. Give it a wait. Oh, boy. Oh, my gosh. That worked out okay. Oh. That was a good move. You know what? That was going to be one of these big bounce things up in the middle. I agree with you. I mean, I can't complain with results. Oh, that one. It hit the other side, though. It hit the tip of the other side. I don't think that was a savable ball. Right. Too low.
    102:57
    It was just coming. Oh, my gosh. It was just coming back and forth. Okay, no. Let's trade back to your AD. Remin never waits. He's already, uh, he's trade for 8. Oh my god, he survived. That was beautiful. Not twice. But, he'll take his 5,000. Yeah, 5,000 to the drain. He paid his bing. Yeah, that's, uh, that's, 5,000 is a lot of points compared to these other players right now. And here comes Steve Griffin. Oh, missed the 5,000 point hole. the lanes and the plunge too, which is what you don't want to do. And he's going to find the drain. Yeah. No bonus. Man. Nothing. Zero. Zilcho bonus. Zilcho. Oh, you saw me. Zero bonus, huh? Yep. Not even one. That's going to mean. Don't they give you one? Here you go. You plunge the boat one time. Here they give you one. Right.
    103:48
    So you can always make sure the stuff is ready. In the jungle, life is hard. You get no freebies Yeah You know it tough in the jungle Volcanoes loincloth climate hunter babes What is he a strong plunger Uh he just Man people can seem to find those top lands all of a sudden
    104:03
    Oh boy. That's trouble. Another poor ball for DJ. Nothing worse than this low diagonal angle. I mean, those orbit shots, they're very chill. Well, you can also kind of hold that little flipper up sometimes and kind of tip it over. Do a little tip pass. Like just a little bounce? Yeah, yeah. All right, there we go. Phil's on the land.
    104:24
    Hoping to get some pop love. He doesn't. Goes for the drops. So where does he see that? 11,000? Is that true? Phil is currently sitting at 11,000, yeah.
    104:32
    He's seen us four. Ouch. Yeah, and, you know, ouch for DJ as well. Those guys have a little bit of work to do. This is a five-ball game, so nobody's run away with it yet. Not Jungle Queen. Oh, nice. And the Spusters are at 5,000, so you get a couple of those. Those Spusters are 5,000. Oh, boy. And don't forget ball five. Watch out for the rain. Ball five is your double bonus ball. It is already lit. That was interesting. Like he shot below that drop target. That kind of bounced on the side. Yeah. The drop target mocked him on the way down. It's like, go that way. Bye.
    105:05
    All right. So we found a sea lane. Nice. And a 5,000 point saucer. Raven has been dialed into those saucers. It's really money. It falls in. Yeah.
    105:17
    Nice. Oh, right around the saucer again. He's getting targets. He's accumulating a bunch of targets right now. 7,000 bonus. Is he going for the little one? Yep. Look, he's lit his lane. Oh, he's going to get another. Oh, that insert tells him drain. Not even a no, but goodbye. I mean, that's what it looks like, but don't go up. I thought he was going to get the up and down. I thought he was going to get the 10,000, but he didn't.
    105:46
    Oh, boy. Wow. And Steve continues. Steve getting housed. I think Steve's actually starting with a zero, then a one, and a four, and just move on. You know, like this time. The hard way. Him and DJ currently in a house ball battle. Let's see who wins this real estate. Five digits overrated. You need 40 digits. Yeah. Okay, that'll work. Oh, that worked. Oh, no. Oh, wow. What a save. All right. DJ's in the groove now. Uh-oh. Nice. That was smart. Uh-oh. Nice. That was smart. Just get it out of there. Get it out of there. Get the nudge. Back up into the B lane. That's more bonus, which is what he wants. Now he's getting one A lane away from getting a double bonus, which would be... Oh, nice bleep away there. Oh, what a dig! That was a... No!
    106:34
    So not sold on the way out, does he? No. No, he gets his 25,000 and he walks away. All right, so 25 and Phil the Burn Bomb steps up with 31. Yeah. DJ gets himself in striking distance, still with the ball in hand, but as you see, that could be very quick.
    106:52
    Nobody has got a double bonus yet. I mean, we talk about it. It's tough to get. It's tough. That's both drop target banks, correct? No, that's ABC. And then both drop target banks on top of the ABC will let your extra ball, which is on, I believe.
    107:08
    Oh. But that seems like nobody's ever going to. Oh, Alvarez? She's like, yeah, he's never going to do that. But here we go. This is a good ball for Phil. He's got some bonus in the tank. He's got a 5,000. He's trying to drain. And, you know, he's close. He's in striking distance of Ray still, which is. 45, yeah. Yeah, he's sticking close with Ray. And I think Ray probably senses that and is maybe thinking it's time to blow this thing up. Nice little. Yeah. Oh, hey. Yeah, not a lot you can do there. And that's exactly what Phil wanted to see. You know, if you take a house ball, 6,000, it's not the worst. No, it's... As far as houses go. Yeah. It's not ball five either, so it's not like you just burned your double bonus ball. All right, Steve, ball on the flipper. You can go from here. All right, Steve's alive. Looks like DJ. Oh, boy.
    107:59
    Ball on the flipper. Tickles the target. Oh, what a... Oh, no. What a drink. And it is the right thing, right? You see a lot of people go straight for a slap save, send the ball out of control. and then just ran out of it. If you can, just the one sleep, pack it to the side, just don't send it out of control.
    108:19
    Still unrewarded. And down the middle, he didn't even get the 5,000 axis. No, he didn't. That 5,000 can be instrumental in this game. I mean, Raymond's at, what, three 5,000s right now? Yeah, it's just not going his way. DJ's still having trouble with the plunge.
    108:38
    Let's see what the rest of DJ's ball has in store. Uh-oh. Oh, going for the hole? Yep. You can also hit that hole with those upper flippers. You can. Oh, boy.
    108:51
    Well, DJ's going to get himself some distance from Steve Griffin, so he's comfortably in third right now. Sure. This is a semifinal, right? So it's not winning your group as much as not being the last two?
    109:05
    Right. You don't have to win them all at this point. You can move on with the five. The tiebreaker on three yesterday. There was a three-way tiebreaker at three, and Raymond moved on with a three. So it happens. Phil's getting very close to his ABC already. Yeah, he just needs that three lane back to find an out lane instead. Just hyphened to the left, and he had it. Every time we say they just need one lane, they find the out lane on that side. And, you know, Phil's still about 20,000 behind. Oh, is he at 15? He's at 59 right now. All right. Phil's full of Raymond. Both full? Yeah, this is the double bonus ball. This is where you want to make it happen. Where all the money, where all the marbles happen. Shoot your monkeys. Shoot your monkeys and maybe even get some lanes off top. Thank you for demonstrating.
    109:55
    There's that tip over I was talking about. See how he just kind of extended that upper flipper? Nice. This is turning into a nice ball. Oh!
    110:06
    Yeah, this is just some textbook jungle queen right here. Oh nice peek. Another one. More bonus. He's got 14,000 in the tank. Alright that's gonna help. Hit the top target. Oh that's the line! Patience. Yeah looks like he should go for the 5,000 now. He comes to left side. Target. One target. Nailed it. Five on both sides. Yeah double lands lit. You think he gets the A? I believe so if they haven't found a way to break it. Wow. 5,000. He is going to get at least the 100,000 light lit. Assuming he doesn't tilt. Yeah, he's killing it. He's blowing it up right now. Yeah. Why wouldn't he have to? On ball five, a double bonus ball. I want to see that A. I want to see what happens. Triple bonus, secret extra ball. Secret. Here it comes. Oh, no. But, but, 100,000 light. I'm hearing from the group. Oh, and another five. I'm hearing from our production team that nothing will happen if he gets the A. But under normal circumstances, I believe it would light his extra ball. 126,000, was it 60,000 for one ball? Yeah, yeah. 60,000 for one ball. Yeah, he doubled his score. That was incredible. That is the magic of a ball five on Jungle Queen. You can do some very wild things with it. I think Steve wished the same for himself. 60,000 in one ball. I would agree. In the immediate moment of these guys, the other three are playing for second. And let's see who can make up some ground here. It's double bonus ball, so anything can happen. I think Steve is paying for it with points. Yeah, I think Steve is trying to get to third first.
    111:39
    Digs that out. Finds the center. Kind of like last ball. It was almost a deja vu. All right. Here comes DJ.
    111:48
    DJ guaranteed of a point at least, which must be comforting, I would say. But he wants more. Will he get it? Three points. Crazy. I mean, it could happen. Three points? I don't think so. Once you max out that bonus, it's good. Well, you know, you go to those holes. No, it's four points. Four, two, one, zero. I'm getting a little punchy. I'm not sure if you can tell.
    112:19
    All right, so DJ here needs to put some point on the table to try to catch the 59, is it? Yeah, and right now he's sitting with 6,000 in bonus, so he still needs a few more monkeys to drop, But he does have two on the right, four on the left. So is he going for the saucer or the monkeys? I think he was contemplating his life choice. He's going for the saucer for that very reason. His life's course nearly ended badly. Oh, no, he doesn't have the lane lit.
    112:49
    But he's almost got that right lane lit. I would definitely go for that drop target there. Oh, boy. Double bounce. Yeah, that's the tip. Okay, so Phil guaranteed a second. and now basically playing with house money and trying to get first. $70,000. Can he do the same thing? He certainly could. If he can max the bonus.
    113:09
    I would not put anything past him. If he can max the bonus and get a bunch of holes, he's going to win this game. But he's going to take $70,000, which is a respectable score. Not a bad score. And as you said, two people will be moving on in this round.
    113:25
    All right. So that was game one. I mean, Raymond walked away. with a solid performance, four points. Phil, two. DJ, one. And Steve with the no points to start.
    113:37
    And the other game is on the Simba. They're still going. I think it's Jay playing with his red shirt.
    113:45
    Sorry, Levy. Levy looking down at his phone while we have a wonderful camera in front of us that he should pick up his head and look at. Because he is now 41st in the Open. I'm going to bleed up. I'm bleeding up. You're going to find a chorus of angels to lift you back into the open? I don't care. I'm having fun. I've got a Mustang convertible. Staying in a great house out here in California. You have a Mustang convertible? He does. Just for the weekend. Right here.
    114:12
    Yeah, we're having a lot of fun here in Banning, California. Yeah, see, it never drains in Southern California show. The Classics 2 finals, round of eight right now. And this shouldn't surprise anybody. The Mexican food here is incredible. This is the pinball voice of God here. Hold on a second. Question from the chat room. Are you all hearing that? When is the New York City Pinball Championships registration? I don't know. For some reason, I suddenly have the urge to plug the New York City Pinball Championships occurring May 14th through 17th in New York City. It starts out with the big Tribeca Pinball three-party tournament, concludes with the New York City Pinball Championships, and everything in between. It's going to be awesome. We hope to see you there. Visit nystevekinballchamps.com tomorrow. That all sounds wonderful, but the most important question, will the knobs be playing? The knobs are going to be there. Sean the Storm Grant's going to be there. A number of New York City musical talents are going to be there to rock your jocks for your bras, and it's going to be awesome. Wait, is that your band? Thank you, Libby. Oh.
    115:23
    On top of being a good pinball player, you're also a Nazi. Yeah, at this point, I might be a better drummer than a pinball player, which is scary, terrifying news. Have you tried to make pinball resist?
    115:35
    Gnostic? Yeah, I think I was trying that earlier, and it didn't work out. Oh, it's a waste. You know, I came in second at Mags Best last week, but I have to say... The competition level here is slightly higher.
    115:48
    There's a reason this is a major. This is a prestigious event. A world of people. It's my world of people. Exactly. It's all magic. And it's not just everyone from around the country. Everyone from around the world is here. There are a lot of big names. Australians, New Zealanders, Europeans, Europeans. Swedes. Yeah. French people.
    116:07
    A lot of Canadians. We have a few French people. Yeah, we got Damien. We got you, kind of. No, we're French. I mean, you were once. He's walking. So Eric is bringing his ball on the team bed. Yes, we're gonna get some live look in here at that Sinbad game that I believe... He's player three. He's player three, yes. All five player three. I can't see the scores, but you have a TV inconveniently right in front of my face, so I can't tell if this is a big comeback, if this is a runaway, if this is just trying to get a point here. Whatever it is, it is very intense. You can always tell Eric's so intense. Like he's leaning in, like pushing with his back foot, like into the machine. When is Eric not intense? He's an intense guy and one of the best pinball players in the world. It must be said, a top ten player. He looks a little angry, though. No, I think he must have been good. I didn't hear any screaming. I think it was pretty decent. This is... Teddy George. Yeah, this is really... The hat backwards. Always with the hat backwards. Always wearing black. He's like a stagehand.
    117:12
    Yeah. Look at him blend into that curtain in the back. You hardly even notice he's there. Yeah. You know I kind of like just a disembodied head. I like the side views you can see you know the position of the body people Help people nudge it. I think the face use of a rated. I like seeing people playing from the side much better I mean you all get to see some of the stances. Yeah By the way, I think he has a good stance. Oh, he's a power stance By the way the New York City football championship tickets go on sale January 19 Oh, wait, is that the weekend of the state and provincial championships? It's the day after the state and provincial championships. Okay, when everybody's over with pinball. Yes, when everybody's... No, everybody's just excited for more pinball. Are you going to... I'm going to play in Massachusetts, yeah. Massachusetts? Yeah, it's closest to me. Boston was more appealing than Rochester in the winter. Oh, that's right. And my girlfriend likes Boston, and she does not like Rochester, so we're going to Boston.
    118:08
    So it's cool. I wasn't really going to do Estates, and then I found out I somehow qualified for Massachusetts playing in one event. Go. So. Oh, don't leave me hanging, man. I qualified, too. I just decided not to go.
    118:20
    You're doing Washington, I would assume? I am not. I'm going to Alberta. Ooh. Canada. Why did you make that choice? It was interesting. Is this a cowardly move? Do you feel you have a better chance there, and that's why you're doing it? I think it's an interesting opportunity because I played there once a year. Jermaine hates Canadians. I love Canadians. They're just such good hosts. I just want to go there and play with them. They can't play pinball. I heard Jermaine say it. So you're traveling hundreds of miles to play in Alberta and you're not playing your home team. It's a one hour flight, which is free with miles. Well, I wish you luck. It's a lot of fun. The winner is going to go to Colorado, I believe? That's right. The Nationals in Colorado. And also the pin golf thingy. Pin Masters. Yeah, Pin Masters. You know, Pin Masters and Nationals in 2016 started my broadcasting career. Yeah? Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's where I met you. All right, so we have Wiz. Game number two for Blitz. You know it. You tolerate it. It is Wizard. Wait, what do you do again? Yeah, yeah. We're not going into this. You know, you put the ball here, then you go there, then you go there. You make a triangle. Oh, I like that. You make a CP. You make a PT. So first you use that lever to close that steel ball. You know what, let's just call this like the most exciting thing we've ever seen in our lives. This is exciting. Getting that ball from left to right. He dropped the ball on the left side. What is he doing? Wow! Just throwing caution to the wind, taking the crazed shot into the pop bumpers. Oh my god. Oh my god! He shoved that forward! That's why you don't do that. That's why you walk away and start... I think I see what Phil's doing here. He wants this flag. This flag will light the spinner. For what? For a hundred points. It's a hundred points of spinner. If this spinner is pretty juiced, it'll give you a few grams. Ooh.
    120:12
    Hey, I'm just trying to defend the logic here. You know, he's there playing. We're here, so we must have a strategy. Let's see what it is. Okay. Canemo busted Allen, and he gets a double. No, he doesn't. Canemo busted Allen, but he did pass it over and hit the spinner. Oh, he left the spinner. Oh, no. He didn't pass it over and hit the spinner. He backhanded the spinner. Oh, there we go. Oh, boy. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Back to the background. Never walk away. Never. Levy. Do you want to know? He might be here right now because of one of those. You know, I wanted to pair the hard way. Pair Schwarzenegger, I believe. Schwarzenegger? Yeah, Schwarzenberger, I believe, did the same thing to help Stephen Griffin move on. Steven walks away. He could have dug that ball out. I think he's carrying on the tradition. Yeah. I don't get it. It's like, just watch it. It's like, you've come this far. Especially on the EMs. I mean, it happens. First commandment of pinball, thou shalt not walk away. Until you see that bonus count down. Fortunately, that was only a ball one. Fortunately.
    121:24
    DJ stepping up to the machine now. The opposite. The opposite of what Lord Humongous would prescribe is never walk away. Oh!
    121:33
    Did he save that? Incredible save. What a shame. He shot that flipper on the... You know, honestly, I thought this game was going to suck, but it's kind of waking me up. There's a lot of excitement here. And he's not. I mean, he's pretty sensitive. I'm surprised he got away with that.
    121:49
    Nice alley pass. Perfect. Nails the spinner. That's what you want to do. And a textbook dropped into the flags.
    121:58
    It's not a double bonus, but, you know, 9,000 in bonus. I think we've got another alley pass going up. Oh, it's a terrible alley pass. Way early.
    122:07
    But he did hit his. He's got flag manual lit. He wants up there so bad. Yeah, I know. He needs to get up to the top, find that flag lane, and get that double bonus. As late as you think is possible. That's the goal here. As late as possible. We're going to the post again. It has to be halfway gone. That's when you have to. Just backhand it up there, dude. Backhand that spinner when it rolls up onto the flipper. Post pass. That was very nice. That was nice. Here it comes. Oh, it doesn't go. Does it go? Will it go? No, it doesn't. Oh, no. It doesn't survive. Maybe. Yes, he does survive. Maybe. He clearly survived. Well, he hasn't survived yet. Now he's survived. Oh, my goodness. Now he is considered in the land of the living. Okay. You can drop the... Boom. Oh, no. No, not a boom yet. A little early there. I just want a boom. It's been a while since I've had a boom. You want a boom? You want to boom? No, no, no. It's not really booming the spinner. You're booming the flag. Yeah, I know what he's booming, dude. But we're talking about you. We're making sure you boom the right thing. If you boom the spinner too hard, then you don't boom the flag.
    123:03
    When I bleed up five spots, I'm going to boom so hard. Oh, if you bleed up five spots, you deserve a boom. No, you're going to boom so hard.
    123:11
    Come on, come on. You can't shoot up that alley. No, there's a gate at the bottom. That gate tells you no go away. You can try, but you have to... Oh, that was almost a disaster there. He gets the 5,000 point target. I remember DJ had a couple sweet alley passes. Here it comes. 3,000 points. That's 5,000 points. DJ. With the wide pass. No, not moving yet. Not moving yet. That was too strong. Nope. Wait. Pop bumper low. Oh, nice. Boom! There is your boom. That was a 19,000 point boom. He's got 30,000 points. Boom. Shout boom. And it was good.
    123:52
    Booming in the biblical sense. As we said. Coming back from that save on the right outling. All right, let's add it up, gentlemen. That's going to be. I'm going to spoil you. It's 71,000. And 71,000 is a heck of a lot of points on a wizard game, let alone a wizard ball one. That was ball one? Oh, yeah. I can see that other guy's got zero. Raymond Davidson hasn't actually stepped up to the machine yet. Wow. Wow! So, Raymond, you know, I mean, we've seen a few 200,000 games. You know, top ten score was 140. Look, you know what? I'm spent. I'm going to take the rest of this game off.
    124:28
    You've tired yourself out, not even in one ball. Why can't he backhand it? You don't want to try to backhand it?
    124:36
    Whoever, huh? It would never go up this game. Okay, I'll pass. I mean, I don't want to be the one to try it, but... That's doable if you're really trying for it. Oh, my God. No. No, wait. Oh! It's from the bottom pop. Very nice. Oh, what was that? Yeah. Okay, that's the three flags. That's the one you want to see. Three people dead bounce. Anybody know why Ray Day is going fourth?
    125:01
    Because Ray Day decided... Oh, he deferred. Okay, he knew that somebody was going to pick a wizard. Maybe you run out of good games. Yeah. Nice spinner shot. Very nice. More bonus. Stop it. Nope.
    125:13
    Saucer with a question mark. Saucer. That's what I meant. Bonus. Oh, outlay. Outlay. Even the number two ranked player in the world cannot dig out that ball.
    125:25
    Yeah, you need to shovel for that one. You know, it wasn't a disaster for sure. I mean, 25 puts him in second place. So are we saying that Phil picked the machine being player one? That's what we're saying. So Phil is the top speed. He gets the pick. So he's decided, okay, it's time to pull out Withered because I didn't get a win. I got a whole one out here. Am I the only one surprised that Jeff Jules gesticulated at us wildly instead of just telling us on the hot mic that he has? Jeff Jules isn't here. I don't know what you're talking about. Wow, so many mysteries in podcasting these days. So many people podcasting and broadcasting. We don't know who they are. Podcasting about pinball, too. I mean, what if there was a pinball podcast that somebody had? What a surprise. Can you pick the machine? Any deep nut that you pass. That makes more sense. Now, that time the alley pass instead of wildly end. He's in the bone zone right now. No, he's not in the double bone yet. What I mean is he's primed. He's got 5,000. He's primed. Oh. He's a little bouncy, isn't he? Good ball from Phil, though. That's going to bring him up to about 32 or 33. Look at this mighty snowman on the chair. 30. That's NYC from Never Beef Productions. Pack is watching.
    126:35
    Just like the tens of thousands of eSports fans. Millions. 250 250,000 people glued to their computers and phones uh oh I mean it's winning on the East Coast wow I'm getting my second win I was about to step out and maybe call Colin McAlpine in but I've decided are you going to go play another ticket try to resurrect yourself to the dead I figured in an hour I could play two games Steven Griffin looking to try to get that ball over to the right nobody wants to try to back him No, no, this isn't NYC PC. I'm not back on the Argosy spinner. Oh, no, it's a Monaco spinner. Sorry
    127:17
    Getting some points in a 26 9,000 bonus Let's see what he does Boom yeah, that's I think at this point you might want to try to get your double bonus You might deliver when you get to 19. There's no point doing it before I still dangerous Listen to the Alberta champ. Oh boy
    127:39
    He tilted. That sucks. No bonus there. And he had a lot. Yeah, that cut him off of 14,000, 13,000 bonus right there. That game, he's tight. You don't want to go that hard. He gave it a hard nudge. A double, right? He lost, what, like 10,000 points there? 13,000. He would have gone ahead of Raymond. Man, that hurts. I mean, he's going for broke, but. I mean, it doesn't really hurt me because, you know. But it hurts. It hurts. You don't want to keep the weight. I want to say this is one of the rare non-beef to boost that you'll see in pinball. Like, you guys just locked up bys. I don't think you can say beef. I just kind of, like, beef, but not like. I mean, I'm not going to say I locked up a buy yet. Anything can happen in a ticket format. It's unusual. Oh! That we haven't seen before. The ball came out so slow. It was right down the middle. It didn't hit that little thing on the. Yeah. Did you call it a post? I will say, though, watching DJ go past, he has a grin on his face because he knows, Okay, I might have house ball, but you know what I also have? 78,000 points.
    128:42
    Somebody can sustain the house ball. Easy to wave off a house like that. It's still 39,000, averaging two balls. Have we seen anybody knock out that sales shot? Oh, my God. Evan Reimans. I can't, Ray. Oh, boy. Yeah, he knew that. Too late. I mean, too early.
    128:59
    But Evan, his speed ended up on the right paper. Interesting. Yeah. I wonder if things, is the room perhaps leaving? Are we on a fault line? You know what Jim was saying, if somebody at the end of Indies, the top qualifier gets to swap a machine from the open bank to the classic bank, right? And we're thinking, you know, somebody could bring in Wizards. But if that's the case, some modification needs to be done because the game, you know, is... What if the high speed was just able to change the direction the game was leaning? Oh, poor ball from Phil there. And he tilts it also. And he shot the flag from number four again. Did he, Tom? I think he only had just a few thousand buttons. Alright, more pinball. Yeah, I don't think we've seen anybody not get that skill shot. It's just, it's like a non-skill shot. I mean, it's skillful enough to get it. Not exactly textbook, but it did the job. That's a nice shot. Up into the spinner. So what's your favorite, your favorite pitcher skills in pinball? Alley pass, slide pass, dead bounce. I like a dead bounce. You don't have to do anything. It's the best thing of all, really. Tip over. What's the my achieve? I love the tip over, honestly.
    130:09
    I like whatever move keeps my ball alive. Like the live podcast. It's pretty cool. Like, you know, I was playing Black Knight earlier, and that live post-cast comes in. Oh, whoops. He's got a lot of bonus. Did he not tilt? He didn't tilt. Not twice in a row. He's going to get his bonus. All right, so this is going to be ball. We're on ball three now? Yes, this is ball three. He does finally pass Raymond.
    130:35
    But DJ stepping back up. Hopefully he can recreate ball one and not ball two. It's so tough to put together, you know. Didn't you double roll this thing yesterday, Jermaine? Yeah, I got two of two. That's impressive. The tap pass is sweet, laziest, but it's very tough on this game. I think we've seen like one successful taps and a bunch into the sling, which is why you're not seeing people try it. There's that backstand I'm talking about. Thanks, DJ. Wow. Straight in the end. It didn't get him too far, but it did get him to the right flipper. It was genius. Here it comes again. Settling in. Later. Remember what the shot is? Soon. He's going to miss. He's going to flip on the left side. I guarantee you he missed the shot. Boom. Oh, he did it. I thought he was overthinking it. A good tap pass is good, I've got to say. Yeah. I'm more of an elite pass guy, but a good tap pass is pretty sweet. That was... Not out yet. Pretty lucky that he survived that sequence of events, I would say. Whoa. The fling tried to play him dirty, and he fought that off. Boom. That's what he wants. The double's lit.
    131:45
    And... Maybe he gets control back here. You never know. He gets a few flags. Oh, is he going up there? No. Oh, boy. Oh. The dead balance. What a few. He dead balanced. Right at the center. Oh, you're free. Oh, the flags. He didn't get his 3,000 plus 3,000 bonus, but he got the flags. Yeah, that was huge. That was huge. That's way over a roll. Well, the curve cross pass is a good one, isn't it? Well, you've still got to drain and actually collect that bonus. You know what? Take the butter out. Let it melt a little bit.
    132:17
    We're going to see a roll. We're going to see a roll? It's done. I was wondering where you were going with that butter. I also was. It's your man. Wondering. Yeah, some of those sweet honey butter rolls from Church's Chicken about a half mile away. You took it too far, man. You took it too far. Too much roll. Oh, look at that. Hundreds of points off that lit spinner. Our booth mate was right. He got literally like 800 points off of that. He did get the saucer for three. There's no reason to shoot that lit special, is there? Um, no. Style points. That's pretty much it. That's a cool way to drain when he gets 300,000. I mean, he is getting about 2,000 a spinner shot. I mean, that's not nothing.
    133:00
    And going now, but he is rolling it. Over the top, baby. A roll. So he's maxed out in bonus, right? Yeah. He's sitting on 140 on the drain right now. But that's probably still the best thing. You get 2,000 from the spin, 3,000 from the hole. From up top. Yeah. Definitely keep hitting that spinner. What else can you do? I mean, you could go for that center 3,000 target. You could go for the 5,000 target, but let's be honest. You get 3,000 just for getting in that sauce. Yeah.
    133:33
    It was pretty sweet. What a nice dead bounce off of the tip of the flipper. Like, that took guts. Ooh. That took guts of steel. Yeah, it was good. All right. He's not going to hit that too hard. He walks away. You hear that applause.
    133:48
    All right, so it seemed like the rumor rubs. He's sitting pretty here. I mean, what do you think? With 150,000? 148.
    133:58
    I hate when you're wrong. Right. I was about to say, what am I wrong about there? I mean, that 2,000 could change everything, so you've got to be precise. Alright, 150, we're rounding up. 150 for DJ Real. On both three, was that right? Yes.
    134:13
    Alright, are we going to do the thing now where we dig up what the top score was all weekend, and we figure out... Oh, we're going to get the dirt? Are we going to do that? I think it's going to the disparity. I want to, let me see. I know. What a beautiful alley pass.
    134:29
    Who is it? 226. All right, I'd say that's definitely in danger. Another ball like that. And double bonus for Riggs, just like that. Can he match out his bonus? He's almost there. Yeah, he's halfway right now. He's sitting on 22,000 in total bonus.
    134:47
    Wow, stone stoned it twice. Broke the $200,000. Oh, that was the, was that the classic one? Classic one. Yeah. And he does, you know, that was a pretty strong ball for Ray Day, but he did almost max his bonus, and he is going to emerge in second place with $70,000. What's player two? 43? Player two is 43, yeah.
    135:11
    So, Phil, coming up to this ball, has to put his hands on his shoulders, or hands on his hips and go, well, I'm in last. I need to do some work.
    135:20
    Yeah, I say I won as well. That's where, you know, picking games is good. And look at that. And Phil Burnbaum now has his money flag lit. Oh, money. Money. It was only 2,000 points. But, hey, you never know. Just watch the team through. I mean, that's vertical. A little bit of frustration or even anger or fury from Phil Burnbaum. It's up to you, Terry. He's a pretty composed kind of guy. I'm just saying that wasn't the most composed move there. No, no. No, it is ball four, and he is hitting it last, and he knows that he needs to get some points. I mean, he did have a two, right? It's not a catastrophe if you get a zero, but it's not great. I mean, if DJ wins with a five and Raymond gets a two, that's a six-five-two situation here. And you're not looking pretty in that one.
    136:07
    Raymond's in pretty good shape at this point, for sure. I don't know. Steve Griffin is definitely making a case for himself. He has the three-flag lit. He's got 7,000 in bonus. Yeah, he could easily climb into second. He could make one shot right now. Oh, boy. This is trouble. It's not going to happen. But he will take 7,000. Don't you hate that when the board is nearly in the in lane and just bump out. It just wants to go out. Yeah. You were in there. No? Do you ever think to yourself, I wonder how many times Bob Matthews has seen that happen? How many times? Over the last, like, 60 years.
    136:43
    Just millions. Millions. Millions of times. Millions. Yeah. Sounds like that's the 18-12 running in the background.
    136:53
    A lot of millions. Again, I don't hear enough millions. I don't think we've seen anybody not get that hole. That is a... Yeah, it's easier than jungle quick for sure. Some go right down the flag lane, but other than that, it's always been flag lane or it's not there. DJ making his case. He is very close to that number one score. Beautiful, beautiful shots. Alley pass. Should we put it out there on a whisk or a ping-pong style?
    137:17
    Oh, he kind of beefed that shot a little bit. That was beefy. It was beefy. He hit the post. Yeah, yeah.
    137:24
    But, you know, that's the kind of beef that he will digest easily having such a firm lead. Meat's meat. That's meat's meat at best. Yeah, yeah. He's going over. He's going back to the big monitor. We have a, off the side closest to you right now from that camera angle on the classic space, we have a nice big projector screen. It missed it. The skid shot.
    137:45
    He did miss it. He did get the flag. That could be the difference. He did get the flag. That was interesting. Why don't we do that instead of letting it bounce over? I'm kidding you. Oh, boy. Going for the 5,000. Raymond is going for the 5,000 target. Rolling the dice. Let's see if he does it again. He is out of his mind, ladies and gentlemen. Raymond. He is out of his mind. Somebody.
    138:06
    And he missed it twice. And he's still doing it. Boom. Another 5,000. He missed it, didn't he? No, he got two right now. He's up to two 5,000-point targets. He has swapped up the strategy. He's been seeing, okay, these alley passes aren't working out as well as I'd like. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to hit the 5,000-point target. And 3,000, man. And the 3,000-point target. Oh, what a thing! Oh, my God. Good thing you didn't walk away. I was going to say. There comes another five grand in the bank. What are we doing? Oh, he's a little early. He loves his 5,000s. Get the number four flag. He doesn't want to go. He's going to cast 5,000. 5,000 at a time. Oh, what a thing! Oh!
    138:41
    And the sling almost gave him 5,000. Yeah. And he was going to fall asleep, but Raymond just woke us up. Raymond thought he was going to make this interesting. He was going to make for some quality, terrible vision. Oh, my God. And that goes in. That goes in. He picked up a hand. He dropped the bomb. He is 18,000. He's maxed out the bonus. Yeah. He's going for the bonus. Is he still getting 5,000 with that special list? That's a good question. I would have to think he is, hopefully. That would be such a recall. All right, he has rolled it. Not yet. He's rolled it. Just give me this. Just give me this, all right? He's rolled it. But he's got to go out. And he's going to make a case on ball five and say, DJ, you've got to run away with this now. I'm on your deal. He is one house ball or even mediocre ball from DJ away from being able to claw his way back to the lead. I mean, he's only. He's only 20,000 points down. He's only 4,000. He's only 5,000 targets away. He's got 5,000 targets away. Putting the pressure on DJ, you can never let up when your plan is championed. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's the craziest move I've seen tonight. That is... Oh!
    139:54
    He's out of this. Phil is going to have to sit and hope that Raymond Davidson scrounges something down. He's going to come out here and laugh, and he's going to be sitting on those two points he's got from game one. So he already wants Raymond to get the points to be at eight and DJ enough to run away with it, right? Yeah, this is definitely the case. Now Steve Griffin's going to come up and go, Well, I'm 80,000 points down on second. I can just do things. And hope for the best. And Joey Fancy is. Is he going to alley pass or is he going to do the debut? I think he's doing the alley pass. So, you know, you had almost all of his flags. You know the next tournament we go to, everybody's just gonna be shooting that 5,000 point. No way, man. That's what Pimba players do. I mean, I'll be honest, I will probably shoot the 5,000 point because I've got a game on stream where I've bricked a post path, I've bricked an alley path, and I've bricked a tap path. All in one game. Yeah. I guess it depends on how you see your alley path. It's true that even if you don't break the spinner, you don't always go in the saucer. After a successful A-pass, a successful spinner, you may not even get to 6,000. And now, with a drastically changed landscape, David DJ Real steps up to the ball five and goes, I've got to play. 166, I've got to play. He's under pressure for sure. There he goes. Nice little drop. Yeah, it takes the dead bounce. The debounce, as Greg Cavarelli would say. Back up. Yeah, just trying to get some bonus in the tank. Just giving him something to work with. So to put some pressure on to Ray Day. Wise play from the veteran DJ.
    141:34
    David Robinson. Yeah. Who's won some big-time tournaments, including a Papa Classics before. Yes. No stranger to Classics play. He is also a well-esteemed traveler, and I've learned a lot about traveling for pinball by just kind of tagging along with DJ to a bunch of different places. You mean like how many dudes you can fit in a hotel room? Not to that level. All right. That's 10,000 points. Okay, you know, that was good. That wasn't killer, but it's what he needed to do. He's definitely putting Raymond on double bonus. What does it need? 44,000? I mean, 44,000 is crazy, right? It's not just either of those shots. It's a double bonus. By the time you get the max double bonus, it's double bonus. It is also a bunch of 5,000 targets. At first he's more on the cheaper, I guess. Oh, okay, we're going to see some targets. He is. Oh my God. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. I'll bet you a dollar right now. You want to bet a dollar on this? We don't bet on stream. Oh! Oh my God. Oh, you want to bet on stream? Oh my God. You don't need a dollar.
    142:31
    Off stream. Off stream. Yeah, off stream he has a dollar. Okay. Um... That was your streamer buck. Wait, did he get one or two? Just one. Just one. Okay. Here he comes again. This is a new drama just for $5,000.
    142:43
    Oh! Oh, he goes for the tap. That was beefy. Don't do the tap. Oh my God. The tap doesn't work. Did he make you tap? All right, that goes in. Raymond is just trying to throw us all off here. Because he has a double bunny stick. That's why. No, he didn't have a double bunny stick. He has a two flag and a four flag. Oh, no, no, no. Don't do anything drastic here. Nothing hasty. Wait, what are we going to see now? Is this going to be a tap? Oh, my God. He's trying to tap. Why is he doing this to himself? I've seen a tap work. People can pull it off, but it is a difficult tap. Oh, yeah, it's a double. But with that, with that... Oh, that was a good one! Wait. Here it comes. Boom. Here it comes. What a boom! 12,000, 13,000. What does that mean? He's going to be super close. 179. He's also at 5,000. 4,000. He needs 12,000. Oh, my God. He missed the 5,000. He is sensing blood in the... Oh, no. Oh, no! He's not going to do it! He's going to put 4,000 short. 183 to 179.
    143:43
    That's 5,000 seconds. It's a $5,000. He is disappointed slightly, but he is still happy because, oh, my goodness. Who would have thought we would have seen this crazy of a game of Wizard? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I was not looking forward to playing. So watching Wizard, I will say that. But that was cool. Do you think he did the math? I mean, you were $4,000. Of course he did. That's why he went for the $5,000. Oh, my gosh. Of course he did. So exciting. So, welcome back. Classic pinball. Classic Pinball here at Indus 2020 Classics 2 Round of 8. I'm Lewis Bevins. Larry Naiman. Jermaine. And we are here broadcasting some phenomenal pinball. Yeah, we're spent. We're spent. But you know what? We're going to sit here forever. I am tired of just talking about it. I thought I was spent playing Rescue 911. I was spent trying to watch a game of Wizards. Wow. All right. So that's what? That's six for Raymond, five for DJ. Yes. Two for Phil. And one for Phil. Nobody's through yet, and nobody's out yet, technically. No, Raymond is through.
    144:47
    No, he's not through yet. At worst, he has a tiebreaker, though. Yeah. This is when we get into a situation where I DJ. You know, we had a six-point tiebreaker, and people lost the round before, right? So six points is not guaranteed. No, no, no. As I remember from my classic final yesterday. And we're going to actually have the camera moving. We are getting right into our next game, moving and grooving over to... Oh, my God.
    145:15
    Dodie Parton. Dolly Parton. Is that the same group or the next group? I believe this is going to be the same group. We're going to follow this through and through. All right.
    145:31
    Are we back? And welcome back to Indus 2020. Fire in the booth from that, huh? Wizard game. Literally, a computer overheated. We were down for a little bit. Sorry we couldn't bring you Ball One of Dolly Parton, but we're here in this wild, wild set in the Classics 2 round of eight. Yeah, we're back, baby. You know, I remember things differently. We were transported to some kind of alternate dimension, swirled around, up was down, left was right, And we're just now recovering. You know, I just think that this game, this rig, as awesome as it is, cannot handle the booms. We're going to need to upgrade it slightly. Maybe more RAM? Yeah, download more RAM. Oh boy, look at all that bonus! Let's not just talk about the bonus, let's appreciate that 30,000 point spinner shot. Alright, so DJ, bowl two, three, a three, right? Yeah, he is looking just to get some points, get something on the board. No interest, despite his voluminous bonus, he's showing no interest. Yeah, that was something. DJ is back at 200. He has 2x bonus right now, sizable 2x.
    146:42
    Then once again, you can't really quite see the score. The scores are showing on the player cards, just because of the names. Oh, that was a little beefy down there, that flipper fumble. Beefy, huh? I mean, let's be clear, I'm hungry. But DJ gets himself into the pack so Raymond is straight back in. Wow. Yeah. He's got nothing. Oh, nice in lane. Spin it. We survived. And he gets the cash out of it. That's some wonderful control skills from that Raymond. Look at that thing go. That's a 20,000. You don't often see back... Oh! Oh my gosh. Back to backers. 76. Backers! That's still a bit of a boom. That's 15,000. Wooo! And somehow in four shots he caught up. Yeah! That's the magic of this Dolly Parton. You hit the spinner a few times and all of a sudden, hey look, I'm back in the game. Wow, Island's in the stream! That is what we are, but he's nailing it! Oh, nice save. And he even gives the celebratory clap since he hit that spinner. Raiders, Ghoul and Dolly 9-5 today. Non-stop. I've never seen somebody... What's he going to do here? Flip a pass? Oh, he's going to the tap. Another tap and he's playing. High on the finger.
    148:04
    He's over the edge. Very nice ball from Raiders. What, like four or five spinners? Five spinners.
    148:13
    And here comes Phil Birnbaum. He's player one. He's got two points. He needs more points. He needs to win. And he peaked that game again, right? And right now, he doesn't have enough bonus to get him to the lead. He has 136, right? He has 136, but right now... Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Should he... Oh! Yeah, now it's bitter. It's bitter time. You don't want to think about multiplier? That's just not what you're doing, Dolly? Eat more bonus? Right now, that multiplier target's worth... Oh! Oh, my goodness. And Phil Colasso peaked down! Oh, he gets back up. No, no, no. Oh, my God. He reeled forward, it was a gut punch, and then he realized, okay, I'm... I wasn't sure, I wasn't sure. I mean, he's into these bugs. I wasn't sure he was going to get back up. Perhaps, let's face it. And as long as Steven doesn't kill Tears, he will pass Phil in bonus. And what will that mean? That'll mean Phil is done. And Ray and Phil will be going through? I mean, Ray and Steve.
    149:13
    It's not out of the woods yet. Right. Because Steve can get a tiebreaker. who's DJ? DJ can, I mean, Steve can win and hope for a tiebreaker. Oh, there it is. Spinner's lit. That was really unfortunate from Phil. Perhaps, you know, fatigue setting in on the veteran.
    149:33
    It's been a long day. It's been a long weekend. It's been a long classic. There's another flipper fumble. All right, so Steven finishing strong. I mean, he was another rough round. Another 0-1 round. So what's going on here? What does DJ have to do? So DJ needs to pass Phil Birnbaum 196. To accomplish what? To lock him into the final four. Right. Okay. Do we have a tiebreaker possibility at this point? There is a tiebreaker possibility. If Raymond doesn't win, or if Raymond and DJ don't win, so Steve wins, if DJ gets last, we will have a something, five, five, something. That would be pretty cool. We will have extra pinball. But DJ right now is like, I don't want extra pinball. I want to get points. I want to get ahead of Raymond. I want to get ahead of Phil Birnbaum. I want to just go to my final.
    150:23
    I want my money. I want my Wopridge. I feel like my hat might have ripped open the fabric of space and time and created that vacuum.
    150:35
    Sorry, I'm losing focus. Much like Phil Birnbaum on that last ball, I'm losing focus after a long day of commentating and watching my scores bleed out. So, milestone one reached. If DJ doesn't tilt here, he will have Raymond at least playing his ball.
    150:56
    Get that ball under control. And honestly, at this point, this is one of those, this is when you want to stake your claim to those targets. One target right now. Oh, boy. What does that mean? That means that DJ comes 200 points short. Hands on his head. Which means what? So if Raymond passes DJ, that means we've got a dozen pass Steve Griffin. There's a tiebreaker. A lot of circumstance there.
    151:27
    He's just going for the spinner. He has $10,000 in bonus, though. He needs to do something here, which he will not do. So Raymond gives DJ an out. Oh, my God. So that means Raymond Davidson and David Riel will be going to your finals. Steve Griffin wins the game, gets the five, but because DJ got the point, he'll go on with six. Raymond will go on with six. DJ has six? Yeah. Something feels a little different. Something feels a little different here. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, I'm here, you're here, you're here. I feel like there's three in the water.
    152:05
    No more hack tossing. I think when we came back to that dimension, it was somehow two spaces. Oh, is that what happened? Yeah. I think it was train shooting. Looking down at this clip here, I think that was for UR. Yeah. The hat toss is on there. Great. So DJ is moving on. Wow.
    152:24
    Raymond is moving on to the final four. And Steve and Steve. And what about the other group? Is that done? Let's go check. We might get a little bonus in ball here, actually, if we're lucky.
    152:36
    We've got some fingers moving. The show maybe must go on. I think we have sweeping commentators. Bingo. The final four coming. All right. Katie George, Eric Stone, Raymond Davidson, and DJ.
    152:50
    Thank you all. Not in the booth. All right. But in front of us. I can only assume Carl is not going to make us endure the indignity of swapping the booth on camera. There we go. It was so nice calling this match. We're bringing in a fresh booth. Awesome event. And we'll see you guys tomorrow. We'll see you guys now for the finals of this and tomorrow for the main finals. And the high stakes. Don't get my high stakes. That's on too? Yeah. This is Levy Naiman. Louis Pevens. And Jermaine. Saying good night and good luck. But do stay around for the finals. Yes, please do. It's going to be freaking awesome. Yes.
    153:42
    All right, you've got two. You don't need me. How are you doing? We're all good. Are we live? Live. As we get ready for the Classics II Championships, you're going to be hearing the sweet voice of Ron Howlett, Jr. from the Slamtail Podcast, from the Texas Pinball Festival, Colin McAlpine, former Tin Bird winner. And joining us very soon, they named a plague after him, Johnny Monaco will be here.
    154:06
    That's true. So, Ron, take it away. I'm going to head back. Good luck to you. Good luck to Colin. Welcome Colin, getting his headset on.
    154:16
    We're beginning the final, final round. This is the final four of the Classics II, the 2020 Indy Tournament. Here from the Museum of Pinball in beautiful Banning, California.
    154:33
    All right, rocking out to the tunes, rocking out to the tunes. Yeah, we're rocking out to some, we've got some metal playing here. A lot of people don't know that is actually Carl D'Angelo on guitar. Maybe not. Okay. Didn't even get a reaction. He can't even hear you. Okay.
    154:50
    All right, all right. Who was in the final four? I have not been paying attention. I believe it's Eric Stone, Kaylee George, Raymond Davidson, and David Reel. Ryle. Sorry, Dave. Louis Riel. Canadian name.
    155:15
    Wow, that is quite the final four. That is the stack field. For those who watch these streams will be familiar with all four of these players.
    155:24
    Yeah, so you've got world number two, world number, I think, 11 and 13 and 15, and Kaylee George is former world champion. Yeah, multiple majors here. And we're on an alley. We're starting up. So, Raymond is playing first, so I'm guessing he chose it.
    155:47
    So Allie I found is playing pretty mean as all good sterns of this era should Yes I found I basically just chewed the upper left bank at the top This is your bonus multiplier. Just try to get that up to 5X because it does carry over. You can forehand or backhand it. Neither works. Let's respond to the chat here. Ethan, I am not in the Classics finals because I sucked at Classics this week. Same here. You made it. No, I mean it, but I stuck in the playoff portion. Oh, okay. So first round you were one and done? Well, yesterday I made it to the second round. Today, yeah, I was one and done. I would have just been happy making the finals. That was a very frustrating classic. It was like 200 people. Yeah, it was very difficult to get many tickets in, and you had to perform very well across all four games, which, hey, that's the beauty and the frustration of ticket qualifying. And DJ finds a left out lane. So we've got a right out lane count of one and a left out lane count of one. Yeah, just the kind of game Alley is. I had like a 700K game on it, and then I think in the playoffs I had like an 80K game on it. Yeah, exactly. That's the kind of game this is.
    157:02
    And so that's why you found a lot of players, you know, they're picking the likes of the, you know, very boring Wizard. Yeah, because it's spinner all day. Well, no, Wizard's not spinner all day. Wizard's, you know, well, you're trying to go to the flag lane all day. Yeah, the top. I consider that like spinner all day. It's right flipper all day. All right. So for those of you unfamiliar with the format, this is a PAPA-style format, meaning that the winner of each game will receive four points. Second place receives two points, third one point, and last place gets zero points. We're playing three games. This is game one on Ali, a classic Stern Electronics game. And we're already through the first three players. That is the beauty of these classic turns, is that they will not waste much time. We were watching the stream yesterday, and only today, a lot of the players were talking about it, playing tougher today. Has there been some adjustments? I don't think there was. I thought they played the same to me. Okay, it did to me. I could put up pretty much 200,000 at will yesterday. I mean, I could skate every day, but a lot of players, the scores were noticeably lower today. Nice backhand. That was a great flying, on the fly backhand there. He had it up on the tip. He's going for more backhand, and he finds the right out. So now we have, is it two and two? Two right out lanes, two left out lanes? I believe that is correct.
    158:22
    All right, Raymond wasting no time. He wants to plunge for these saucers. They advance bonus, and he misses. If you watch Raymond, he will almost always plunge immediately. He doesn't really have a routine like a lot of the players do. And so he went for the drop catch successfully, but then he unsuccessfully did not hit the targets. There he got one of them. He's going for those top three bank because that advances your bonus X, and similar to many Stern Electronics of this era, your bonus X carries the entire game, provided that you don't go above a certain threshold. But there he's getting down the middle. So this is the advanced bonus right here, these three targets, and it will advance you immediately two, then three, then four, then five X.
    159:03
    So if you max that out, then what would you go for, Colin? Then I start collecting at this little dead-end shot to this saucer right here, and then that's repeatable, meaning your bonus does not reset. And you should be able to catch that as it comes out on the left flipper and hopefully repeat. Yeah, the problem with this Ali is that, similar to Ali's game, the Indus, which kudos to the Indus staff and the techs here, the flippers are ridiculously strong. And so most Alis, the flippers are a lot weaker, and so it's a lot easier to make that shot and less dangerous, and the kicker also isn't so strong. And, man, we're already. Yeah. And you'll see the strong flippers if we get to Sinbad. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Sinbad has very strong flippers. Some serious rope-a-dope right there. DJ, it's kind of got a little glare there. I think it looks like he's got about 110 or so. Here we go. That's Corbett. We've got 118 for DJ. Thank you, Corbett. Appreciate it. For those of you, you can go to Corbett.com. And Eric found the left out lane in a hurry. So Eric only has, he has almost identical score to DJ.
    160:09
    Allie, possibly the most purple game until, I don't know, Willy Wonka maybe, more purple. Until they released My Little Pony. This was actually designed by Harry Williams.
    160:25
    His name is actually on the play field. Nice. Great flip. That was a good flip away. He was aiming for those upper three targets. Here comes a backhand to those three targets, and he was really late. Way late.
    160:39
    Nice catch. Here comes another backhand to those targets. Took out only one. It's always nice when you can get a couple at a time, but he only got one at a time there. And he wants a saucer. Oh, lifts out of the saucer because that saucer was especially good because that one will usually kick to the pops and kick back up for more saucers, I found, on that left A saucer. He got a third target. He's up to three. All right, here we go. Do you think he's going to start doing collect bonus? I think, yes, he does. And there is a collect.
    161:06
    In this game situation, absolutely. On ball two with the score, and nice catch. So he couldn't just hold up the flipper. He had to give a little bit of a pseudo live catch there. Now, I'm a little surprised he didn't try to do some type of flipper transfer over to the left flipper there. But what I found on this particular Ali is the tap pass was very, very difficult. Essentially, you try. Oh, Lazarus. He is the greatest at coming back from the dead.
    161:35
    You saw that in the semifinals, but the player had actually walked away. He had walked away enough where he could not get it. Oh, no.
    161:43
    I don't remember the player, but it's the same exact thing. That's why you never walk away, ever. So, still, that is a commanding lead given this game situation.
    161:53
    319,000 going into our final ball of Ali of game one of the Indus Classic 2 finals here at Indus 2020. And here's Raymond Davidson. Gets a saucer. Does not get any extra love, but he does do a nice upward nudge to get vertical motion and get an in lane rather than an out lane. Gets one target.
    162:14
    See if he does this early enough. Oh, late on the backhand. It looks to be a little late on that. Oh, way late. Way late. Oh, well-deserved rain there. I'm sorry to say, but... Way late and a little flubbage there. A little pilot error at the end.
    162:33
    Yeah, that's unfortunate. So he's at 170. So he has a little bit of a lead on both DJ and Eric. And Kaylee already has a point in the bag.
    162:45
    Kaylee won yesterday. Kaylee did. So he's looking to make it a double classics win here. And he's also in the top four on open. So right now sitting with a double bye in the open standing. So Kaylee is playing incredibly well at Indus 2020. That's nice getting those extra saucers. Oh, nice upward nudge. He said, I don't want it in lane or the out lane. I want it back on my flipper. Thank you very much.
    163:15
    All right. Yes, he's early enough and takes down the last. Oh, no, no, no. The horseshoe. That's what you get for making your shot. That's Ray right down the middle.
    163:26
    And he did not catch Raymond. So Raymond escapes with at least one point. See, that's exactly it, that A saucer. The A saucer gives you some love. Back up another saucer.
    163:43
    All right. Gets the more saucer for more bonus advance. Oh, unintentionally, he gets that center one. Let's see if he can collect the third one. No, he was late. He gets the horseshoe in danger, and he settles down. All right, this is incredibly early. Oh, okay. Okay, this is actually a wise play. I get what he's going for here. He's just trying to catch Kaylee at this point to make Kaylee play his ball, and he wants to go for bonus collection. He won't get a chance to. He's going to collect it with the drain, so Kaylee does have a little bit of work to do here. But I think Kaylee has, oh, wow, that was a lot more bonus than I expected. Kaylee does have 4X. So he's already sitting at 2,000, and the bonus increases for 2,000 every time you go in a saucer, every time you hit a target, every time you hit a lane. So every one of those is another 8,000 in Kaylee's case because he has 4X. He doesn't get a single saucer. I will say this is Ali.
    164:37
    Okay, he got control. Oh, early. Oh, no. Oh, still alive. Oh, flails, but gets some targets. He gets some bonus along the way. The 10,000 light isn't working. He does not only have 2,000 bonus. There's no way. Oh, and he backhands on the fly. He only has 2,000 bonus? I thought you get bonus from all those drops.
    164:59
    Why didn't he get bonus? I don't think it's going to matter. I think he's almost got it here. With the outlane and the bonus, that does it. He got five advances, three advances in the outlane, And that captured, that was worth $24,000 for those three advances on the outland. No, more than that.
    165:24
    Yeah, no, $24,000. So that's good for Cayley. And Cayley looking in the commanding position after game one. Looking good. Trying to double up on his Classics victory from last night and parlay that into his second Classics win. Which he qualified on the very, very last entry at the very end, like right before he had three good games and waited on the fourth one until the very end, like the last half hour or so, I believe. Of today? Of today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He actually tried earlier and just hadn't had any success. And I don't know, I think he took a break or what. Yeah, he wasn't putting in open entries because he was already qualified in like third or fourth seed. But, yeah, I was actually, we were playing roughly the same games. And I played flash right in front of him. and my flash was unsuccessful, and his flash was successful. So he deserved to go through, and he went from not qualifying to all the way up to, I think, the third seed. Yeah, and he put himself into a good position by his performance, I think, two days ago. He's at the top, near the top. I think he was one of the, yeah, I think Eric Stone was the top seed last night. But in the open. In the open, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's put himself in a position where it's like, hey, I can just go at classics because I'm secure in the open. Yeah, he's totally secure in the open. He has a great ticket that, you know, it didn't have any, like, bleeders that was worse than anybody else's bleeders. So that's the thing about this format, along with any format of this style, of trying to put up high scores and just better your scores. Everybody's going to bleed. It's just a matter of are you going to bleed more or less than everybody else. Do you have one of those stinker games on a card that just is a hemorrhagic patient in a hospital ward? It's so weird when you get, like, a first-place score. I'd rather have third. Because, you know, if I first place it, if someone beats it, I lose five points immediately. No, no. Okay, there's truth to that. I'd rather have, like, in this case for Classics, it was the four games. I'd rather have you, like, four thirds. Yeah, okay. I feel almost more secure. But here's the deal. I only want that third place when it's getting down to crunch time. I will take the first place any day of the week early on because that is giving you more buffer. Because you're right. There's going to be people that are going to take you down. so you just have to anticipate that you're going to lose those bonus points, which in this case was five for first and five for second. And here we go. We are on Cosmic Princess. Another turn. Yes. This is all he's paying. So he plunges the three lane. That is incredibly important because it lights on a cycling basis one of the spinners for 1,000 a spin. And he's down and done on ball one. Yes. Are we? Okay, we're still on. All right, so DJ, joining us is Johnny Morica. So he's not done his headset yet, but here we go. DJ's plunging. You want to plunge the middle lane, the lane number three, which lights each of the spinners one at a time for 1,000 a spin. You'll see a big pink light, and it cycles with pop-upper hits and the slingshots, I believe. There we go. He nails the three. So he gets the three lane, all important.
    168:34
    What's going on, guys? Are you getting control? How's it going, Johnny? He needs to get control here. Okay, now, here's the deal. He's got the wrong spinner lit. He's on the left flipper, but he's got the left spinner lit. That's no bueno. Chats it? Oh, he went for it, but he bricked the spinner and he drained.
    168:50
    This is a... What about casting, I mean, or what about alley casting over here? Is it doable? It's doable, definitely. That's a very nice wide alley, but it's also very smooth, and so if you hit it clean, it's probably going to go out of control. Where is it going to go? But look at it. If it does go up all the way, it's probably going to bounce back out to the center. It's not like many others like Gorgar and stuff where you're done. Quick silver. If you go quick silver, you want a dirty shats and quick silver. Dirty shats. You want a dirty, dirty shats.
    169:24
    All right. This essentially was, as someone was saying, this would look sweet next to a Stargazer. This was kind of, is this the same designer and similar artist for a Stargazer? No, this is actually, this is outsourced. This is using Stern Parts. It was assembled in Australia. They made like 300 of these for the Australian market. Wow, fascinating. This is my first time playing it this weekend. It's a great game. So here we go. He has his 2X bonus, and he is done. He gets two times 8,000? Yeah, that's not much. So the other way you can play this game outside of spinners, which I prefer spinners, the other thing about the spinners is the one and the two lanes will add 400 apiece to the left spinner, and then the four and the five lanes will add 400 apiece to the right spinner permanently for the rest of the ball. So that's the spinner strategy. The other strategy is bonus X, and you get bonus pretty much all over the play field. Yeah. It's similar to the other. We just saw Ali. Very similar. And you're going to max out at 19,000. You can get bonus X by completing your drop targets. Now, the cool part about this game is it starts out with less than five. And so you can see it's only starting with two drop targets there. And then it's going to go to three, then to four, and then finally to five. Yeah, it borrows code from Triton and others. Oh, and down!
    170:37
    Cosmic Princess is winning. Yes, it is. Wow. Now, those drop targets, you can forehand or backhand. That's what I was doing when I was having it. Yeah, you can backhand. I also found that nobody's tried it yet, but you can actually post transfer left to right in this game. Oh, nice nudge. He gave a nice little nudge there, took advantage of the rubber on that post, and got it out of the out lane. Got a good spin. Get some nice spinner action.
    170:59
    That was a great spin. And he's collecting his bonus, which, eh, it's just kind of a nice little bonus prize right now. There's nothing special about it because he doesn't have any bonus X. So the other thing is that left spin. He switched it. He just switched it. But that left spinner also, look at that. He's completed all five already. And so next time he completes these five, he's going to get special worth 100,000 points.
    171:22
    Or is it just the three lane? Oh, we won't find out because he drained. But that special right there when he completed all five of those lanes, which you can have some spotted. Like this one lights the two. This one spots the four. I think those are the only spots that you can get the two and the four. So it's all important that you must get that three. Yeah. Get the three, get the three, get the three. Colin is very excited about this game, huh? I think he wants one. I played this game for the first time this weekend. It's a fan. Oh, the bones clutch. I was like, what? Yeah, this game is great. I love games with spinners, and this has two of them. Yeah, it does. And it's got good logic with the rotating spinners. It has interesting, the drop target. The drop targets, the way they did that.
    172:05
    Yeah, Organ Ninja, yes, you can also get special from the drop targets. So there's two ways to get special. You can complete the drop targets. You have to go through two, three, four, five, I think four cycles, four completions of the drop targets in one single ball. Very similar to stars in that way. You kind of have an all-or-nothing special strategy, and then you have the just, you know, get points on the play field strategy. All right, nails a three. He has a spinner lit for 1,000. He's on the left flipper. He has the right spinner lit. Oh, it goes early, and now he's on the wrong flipper. I think when I played this, I was early on the – Oh, here he goes. He's trying the post transfer. Let's see if he can do it.
    172:42
    He's going to try to go. Yep. Okay. He had to bail out. Okay. There he gets it. Now, mission accomplished. It's very late. Very late on the flipper. Nice.
    172:52
    Oh, but it turned off. Oh, it did. Yeah. Oh, it hit a switch. Sorry about that. But now he gets a backhand spinner on it. Get the reverse. That's a compensation, that spinner.
    173:07
    Just a hang. Give you a little bit. And yes, you can hear Eric. Very vocal. Oh, nice. On the fly. But then once again, it switched away.
    173:20
    So that's interesting to know. So in the future, if your spinner isn't lit, just shoot anyway. All right, let's see. Let's see how long it stays lit. Yeah, that is weird. You can nail it. He nailed it. Okay, now it's the star rollover.
    173:34
    It hits that upper star rollover, and then it turns off the spinner or switches it. But still, he is making excellent, excellent pointage here. Backhanding the switch. He wants that forward. Get it now. Special is lit off the top lane. This is not the drop target special. All right. He's looking around. Maybe he doesn't know what's going on, but he knows how to hit that until he's late. And this also is cool because you don't have slingshots down at the bottom here and here. Instead, you have slingshots up here and gears similar to Galaxy.
    174:11
    He wants to get it up on top. Yeah, he's got spinner lid. Oh, yeah, you want that. Oh, it goes early. The nerds got the best of them. See? Transfer over. Oh, man. Complete another set of drop targets. Still, this is a fantastic ball regardless. He's already up to 340,000 and counting.
    174:29
    He's backhanding. Okay, so now he has special. What's this next to the pop bumper in the special light? Okay, I don't know what that one's about. But he hasn't completed. Did he complete enough drop targets already? I think he did because that was all fives and rough. It went out. Oh, go with the three lane. Boom. That was 100,000 points right there, ladies and gentlemen. Special. Eric Stone is feeling very, very special.
    174:55
    One of the highest scores I've seen on this game. Yeah, I wonder what was the qualifying score on this thing. I mean, man. We're up to 700, 800, 9, almost 9. So he just got the other special from the drop targets. And so it looks like it's only once per ball. I wonder if it's like a setting like stars, if you could do unlimited specials. Yeah, that's very possible.
    175:17
    So I don't think he can get any more specials. So that was 200,000 of his nearly million points have come from specials. The rest of it has been spinners.
    175:31
    By the way, Eric Stone has been having a great past couple of days. What did he end up in class with yesterday? Jason E. Rowland. Yeah, no kidding.
    175:41
    He finished second yesterday. Second yesterday? Yep. And already in the finals here? I mean, man. Yeah, so he's in a very good position. He had two points from the first game. So he finished second to Kaylee in the first game. And now he's in a commanding lead at 1,079,930. 1,000,000. That score right there does not count the other million points that he has.
    176:06
    Is Scorbit handling that? I'm looking here. No, it is not. Come on, Scorbit. No, I'm just kidding. Scorbit's great.
    176:16
    You know, one thing that was really helpful for Scorbit this week, I saw somebody at the game, you know, did a reset, but Scorbit had the score for the last score. And so they were able to then just get a compensation ball and not have to replay their whole game. And I got to say, that should have made it a lot easier for people that were taking scores. Yeah, for sure. You know, you don't have to wait. Because it's just up on their board. Yeah, straight up on the board. Yep.
    176:40
    All right, so he has the spinner lit on the left. Bingo. And he has nailed his number four lane, so he has the special lit at the top lanes, which you get there by shooting more spinners. And if there's any player who's good at hitting a grindy, continuous shot, it would be Kelly. Oh, late. Late that time. But he spots a two, so he's one-fifth of the way towards his special. Nice little save there.
    177:09
    Goes late again to bail out. He does not have much wood on that one. He has a fully loaded right spinner right now.
    177:17
    But he wants to go back up top. And he does. And one lane. And a special 100,000 points. Nice collect.
    177:35
    So he collected a 3X bonus, which is nice. Oh, except for the kick. Oh, yeah. He's happy. Yeah, yeah. He's happy. Yeah, because he's, you know, it's a three-game set. Yep. So he does not need to catch Eric Stone on this game. He's got six points. Eric's going to have six points. So that means they're guaranteed first and second. And that also means that Kaylee can stay in contention. Essentially, he just has to beat Eric. All he has to do is beat Eric in the last game. And same thing for Eric. When he plays, all he has to do is beat Kaylee. Now, of course, Raymond has something to say about this. It's Vol 3. Anything can happen. He just needs to get a hold of it. Who's Raymond? I mean, is he a good player or something? I don't know. He's not in the world or anything. Let's see if he can survive the bonus collect saucer. He does. And he's got an almost fully juiced right spinner. And he goes early. Everybody going early. Come on. I've always went early. I don't think I hit it once, the one on the right. I was early every time. There we go. He adjusted. Great adjustment from Raymond. And he does not survive. He got... This happens on Hulk as well. This little bumper right here, it just always bounces right here and then goes... Oh, please don't mention Hulk. Oh, I don't like Hulk. Oh, no one knows.
    178:50
    Galaxy does the same thing. That's better. Let's mention Galaxy. Hulk is terrible. Sorry. Oh, and DJ does not get to play hardly at all. So he is going to take another zero. So DJ cannot win. He is unfortunately going to finish in third or fourth place.
    179:12
    And Raymond also will not because he will only have two points after this. Yep. So really the last game is going to be about first, second, and third and fourth. That's it. Yeah, so really the only thing in question now is Eric's just going to pour in more points and see if Kaylee can catch it. Because if Kaylee can catch it, then he puts himself in the catbird seat for winning this with Eric having one out to catch him. But Eric's about to lap Kaylee if he can rip a few more spinners here.
    179:47
    Boom! Can he get the four? No, no four. But still, that was huge. Huge spin points. And it's lit. Oh, he wants to... But hey, yeah, just shoot with it. I'm a spinner. Because it's going to swap its thousand light.
    180:04
    Nice. He's dialed in. Doesn't get the four, so he's not primed yet for that special in the top lanes.
    180:17
    The chat wants to know more about the catbird seat. It's an expression. Okay. If you're in the catbird seat, it means you're in the top seat, the prime position. I know what it means. The chat's asking. What is it again? Catbird seat? Catbird seat.
    180:34
    Like the cat and the bird? Nice. Nice save there from Eric. I'm guessing he's going to go left spinner. Oh, he was going for the drop?
    180:49
    He was. He wants that drop target, apparently. And he gets it. Yep. So he now has 3X. He has max bonus. Now would be a good time for the pops to go into the bonus collect. They do not. But he has, and he's going to. Oh, I see. So you get those star rollovers in the left spinner lane spot you. It looked like both the 1 and the 5.
    181:08
    So you're well on your way to any top lane completion with one shot to that left spinner. Wow. So he now just needs, I think the 4 is already collected because it's kind of flashing, flickering. If he can get the 3, it's 100,000? Nope. That's okay. He's got a million four points. Yeah, I don't think he's worried too much. I think he's playing pretty relaxed.
    181:31
    But he also knows that, you know, Kaylee George is following him. And so you just never, ever let off the gas. Yeah, well, that's a lot of chopping wood.
    181:44
    Nice patience there. He bricked that spinner hard. And instead of flipping at the return, he let it dead bounce to a nice control to the left of it. Oh, the sling to the pop and straight down the middle. And you hear the applause of everybody.
    182:01
    But still, 1.59 million points. What a game. All right, let's see if Kelly can catch him. It's going to be a long grind. And it's going to be a long grind. Nope, no long grind. The name of this pinball table is Cosmic Princess. Okay, so we are going to go into game three. We finished the penultimate game on Cosmic Princess, and now we will go to the last game. What will it be? And we will not have a tie break that we will have to settle, at least for the champion, because whoever wins between Eric and Kaylee will be the champion. Any guesses on what it will be before he moves the rig? What, Raymond's got choice? Who's the top seed? Eric was the higher seed. So he's been deferring then, I guess? I know Eric, yesterday, he deferred at the beginning so he could have more choices. I wonder if he saved one in his pocket.
    183:08
    If he does, what does he pick? Any guesses? What has he picked so far? I think he's going to pick Black Pyramid. Black Pyramid's broken. Oh, because of the right flippy. Yeah, right before I was about to play it. And I needed that for my ticket. and I failed on Frontier instead. So let's see. He's thinking, he's thinking. Oh, now Kaylee's looking. So apparently it has been deferred to Kaylee. Or maybe he had the choice all along. Making a discussion of bringing it over to... Raymond knows where it is. We're going to Comet. DJ was pumping his fist there, so he's happy. Wow.
    183:47
    Comet was the final game played yesterday in the Classics. It was the playoff between Eric Stone and Joe Lemire for second place. Yeah. So did they install the tilt, Bob, after last night in this Comet? Because you could just wreck this Comet and not get a tilt. So you're saying I should have played it.
    184:03
    That's the one game I did not play the entire weekend. A little trivia. I believe Comet was the first game that Jimbo Cito ever played.
    184:13
    The first game he ever played. Yeah, he was telling me about that. Right? Because I was asking, why did you take the gate off the left lane? Because he's modified this comet and bastardized it. That bastard Jim Belzito. Bastardizing the comet. So this normally has a gate right here that protects you from draining down there. But this gate is gone. Bye-bye.
    184:36
    So it's scram-free? Worse. Much, much worse. However, there is a silver lining. If you need to light your bike jump, you can check, and it'll go all the way through and light your bike jump.
    184:52
    So his bike jump isn't lit. Did he already collect his bike jump? Yes. Oh, okay. All right, so he got his lowest level bike jump, and now he's getting minuscule collect. What he probably wants to do here, generally speaking in comment, it's very, very important. You want to get more than one top lane on one of your first two balls. So the top lane is 1985 right up here, or 1986, 1985, 85. So when you complete all four of them, it then starts a play-field multiplier, which depends on which ball you're on. So if you're on ball one, you get 2x. If you're on ball two, you get 3x. If you're on ball three, you get 5x.
    185:35
    See, no, okay, he does not have his Comet ramp lit. So the theme park motif here, this comet roller coaster, is just in testing phase right now.
    185:47
    And he's almost got it lit. He needs one more shot, and he is... Oh, that is what we see. This game lets you nudge. That was a great, great nudge. That was a nice, narrow escape almost.
    185:58
    So he needs one more target here and one more target here, and that will light his comet. He got his left side, and that's gone. Oh, and that's gone. That's gone. I believe the gimmick of this game is the first million shot.
    186:10
    Something like that. The first million shot. I think it was on the flyer. Yeah, and how do you get that million? How do you get that million? No, you tell me. You tell me. Because I don't know. Okay. It's worth 200,000 points if you go in that very top hole when that's split and flashing. So how would 200,000 become one million? Five X. Ball three. Which you can only get on ball three by completing 1985. call him the professor huh look at him he's like challenging you know yeah man it's like he was just yeah yeah sure or did he oh and kaylee did not have the answer for that ball that's not good for kaylee i mean that's man so i do want to point out that Comet is sponsored by Comet Pinball. Oh, for LED bulbs. But, yeah, isn't that fantastic? Oh, man. Sponsored Comet.
    187:11
    For all your LED lighting needs, you can go to Comet Pinball. Comet Pinball and watch the finals, the last game, Comet. Here we go. DJ playing not just for pride. He can win here. Oh, he tried. He tried. Did he spill? No, he got bonus count, didn't he? Did it give us the bonus count? I think he was still alive.
    187:36
    That's how we answered here. So the pop-up is still not in. They did not type the spell. How would you feel being player four and knowing what you just saw? Lovely. I'm saving it. I'm thinking Eric is probably stretching his arms right now. Yeah, he could. He's like, all right, time for a workout.
    187:55
    We're going to see the common steak working. Yep. It is time to burst some calories. Oh, yeah. So Comet is one of the first of the trilogy. The others being Cyclone and Hurricane.
    188:09
    So here we go. We have Kaylee George in with ball one and essentially nothing. He got 3,100 points. Eric Stone stepping up. Ball one. He's getting a good grip of the machine. The championship of Indus Classics 2 in his sights.
    188:24
    Okay. We should start seeing some tickets over there. And he gets the big old first circle of very little points. Take some points.
    188:35
    But, hey, points is points. Yep. Oh, he actually hit that. He unintentionally hit that drop target and opened up the... What does that give you when you go in there? I never ever shoot for that.
    188:46
    I don't know. Okay, he's trying to light his ramp. He's trying to light the comet ramp. Careful. He saw it. He was cool. He knew. Oh, not that time. Not that one. Okay, maybe not Grand Prix. Maybe Future Spa or Algar. Doesn't it have that space there, too? This is just, I'm sorry. I think it's an awful decision to make.
    189:12
    But at least they have the tilt bob nice and loose. That they do. It kind of makes up for it. Bonus X increase is behind the dummy target. Thank you. to Neath Gabb and T.W. Rex Pinball.
    189:30
    Nice stop. All right, here we go. Yeah, there we go. It's lit. And so that will now continue to earn incremental points on a short timer. It's very short. It's timing out quick, quick, quick. Nope. And it's gone. And not only is the light going to go out, but actually his ball went out first. But he's got a pretty good lead, though, right now. He does. Almost 400,000. But here's the deal. So Raymond, the best he can do is second. Third. No, third. No, second. He can tie for second. There can be a tie for second. Oh, that's true. If he gets a four. Yeah, you're right. If he gets a four and Kaylee or Eric gets a zero. That's right. Okay.
    190:03
    So still lots to play for for Raymond. Let's see. What kind of prize pool are we looking at here? Oh, it can't be that big. I mean, it's not a big tournament, is it?
    190:12
    Nice save. Yes, I believe it was the largest classics tournament ever played today. All right. So nearly $1,300 going to the winner. $930 to second over $700 to third and $500 to fourth wow so it could be a difference of $400 that's a pricey neat ball oh yeah it's an expensive ball sounds like one of those Cougar Knit balls that you get when you get the mystery alright I think he's going to try to light his Comet he's going to go for a left target bank I think and here's the good news he's queued up he has three top lane lights which is critical for ball three because that means he can plunge and immediately start 5X on his ball three plunge. Oh, look at the freeze. A perfect freeze. Oh, come on. Yeah, I was going to say, this tilt is so loose. Please touch that freeze.
    191:02
    Were you going to yell at him if he called for the official to come over? So the ball actually stopped right there at the edge? Yeah, I thought it was a feed. No.
    191:12
    All right, so he needs one more target on the left target bank. And he goes, oh, no, no, don't do this. Yes, see, that is smart. He knows. He's not going to collect it. He does not want 3x right now. He wants 5x with also the bike jump lit, so he can go for 1 million points on ball three.
    191:30
    So he's got the setup. Now he just wants some comet love. Actually, it's even better. Do you like the comet? Does it drain?
    191:38
    Just wait for... Will the comet stay lit between balls? I don't know. Because it would... Oh! What? Okay, what just happened? What was that? It's a new theme. New amusement.
    191:55
    It's a new ride. Go through the gate. It's a new ride. Go through the gate. There's no security at the gate. You let them through.
    192:03
    See, another wise choice, not going up top because he does not want the lane. Now, he's got Comet lit.
    192:09
    All right. Up the middle. No? Not up the middle? I was going to say, I think he wants to save it. But why not get some points, though? That's true. In this situation, with the match play situation, maybe just because if you can ramp out on that, that's some good points. You've got to be careful about getting too greedy at this level. Good dig out there. But that's what he's doing. He's not going for it. He is saving it for Vol 3 for 5X. All right. It's a gamble.
    192:41
    Oh, I love it. I love the thinking. Oh, I've got to go. Oh, no. He must get into that. Oh, that nudge was no bueno.
    192:51
    Oh. Normally, that is a great nudge because you think the out lane, I don't want to go down the out lane. And so I'm going to nudge it, you know, bounce up here for vertical action to go down the in. Oh, no, that's not the in lane. No, it's not.
    193:08
    This is not an Italian bottom. No. In fact, there's no in lane on the right side. All right. DJ does a nice ski jump there to feed from. Nice, nice.
    193:22
    Get it out of there. There we go. Okay. He has no progress on his left target bank, half progress on his right target bank, and he has his bike jump lit.
    193:36
    Ah, good point from Minnesota Pinball. You can grind out on that comet ramp and go up to... He's still alive!
    193:47
    Sweet, sweet nudge. With the loose tilt bomb. There's a tilt bomb? With the tilt stick. I got his eek.
    194:01
    So what he was saying is that you could ride that ramp after you've lit it and just don't collect the hundred and then just time it out. and let it go back to the 30 or 20 or whatever the original light is, and just grind that out. And then it'll still be then lit, you know, on ball three.
    194:18
    So DJ makes some progress, gets up to about 150K. Nowhere close, really, to Raymond's, although everything's available. I didn't see how much, I didn't pay attention to DJ's top lane progression. So Eric has only one top lane. So he needs to get a lane and get a little bit of pop slug to get one more additional lane. And he gets it. He did. No. Okay, he does not collect it. That was wise.
    194:44
    So he now has three lanes. He has primed the pump for 5X on ball three. He was late for the bike jump.
    194:52
    Nice. That's a great catch. Late again. Oh, oh. But he saves it because there's no tilt. There's no tilt.
    195:00
    I still want to play this. Nice. So let's see if he takes it all the way and just keeps grinding or if he stops after. So that was the, here's the 100,000 one. He was going for it. He was just saying, hey, I want points. I want to put points and catch up to Kaylee's score. He gets it before it times out.
    195:40
    Goes early. Nice nudge. Nice dead bounce. Nails it. Mucho points. He goes. Thank you very much for no gate, Jim Belzio.
    195:57
    Still, I like that. You're really giving it to Jim on this. Yeah, he's being so mean. So mean. All right.
    196:08
    Oh, Raymond did not have his, apparently not have his four lanes up top ready because he did not have any 5X going. And he's, oh! Oh!
    196:22
    That was delightful. Just even the fact that he got it out of there, I thought it was going to stay up, but then the tilt stick finally registered.
    196:35
    Wow. Oh, that was good stuff. Well, while we wait for that to settle down, Comet is one of three System 9 games that Williams made. Can you name them? No. The other two? No? Can anyone in the chat name it? Oh, Kaylee's up already. I thought he'd wait longer. Here we go.
    197:00
    Oh, just barely gets his 5X. Here we go. It's go time. Can he get control? Oh, no, no, no. He does. He's good. All right. Here we go.
    197:13
    Oh, he's late. Oh. He's late again. No, he gets 5X times whatever, you know, 10,000, I think. So not that much. Okay. He still has a little bit of 5X time left. Not much. There. It's gone.
    197:28
    So all that 5X was much ado about nothing for Kaylee's ball. He does have his ramplet, and there you go. And now let's see if it'll give him a nice feed. It does. And so he's going to nail it for some more points. And he goes early. But he survives.
    197:45
    And now he's going to go for some more ramp. Oh, he subbed. Yeah. It's a pilot error from Caleb George.
    197:55
    And that does not settle it. But that Eric Stone's got to be smiling right now. because he's only got to catch 117,000.
    198:11
    And the chat is correct. It is Sorcerer, Comet, and Space Shuttle. All right, so DJ, he wants to catch not just 430, so just catching Raymond doesn't do him any good. He needs to go over the top of Cayley's score so that he can put him in position to get four points.
    198:36
    He needs to go over the top. Sylvester Stallone style. Okay, yeah, that was the right call. So he was trying to go for that really terrible geometry ramp over there. Terrible geometry? Are you criticizing Barry Osler's design? I am. Oh, my. Did he just take a danger there? Yeah, another one? And a second one. Wow. I think maybe the entire thing moved closer to the ring now so I like this thought of doing something to get up there but just keep it a regular orbit loop and just let us go up to the top lanes some people in the chat agreeing with you yeah thank you Chad my comet's an all time classic brick that one brick brick lots of bricks DJ's building a house if anybody's interested oh he did get the second level alright he's at 230,000 still got a lot lots to go he needs one more top lane for the 5x love and he needs one target on each of the side banks to light his ramp.
    199:54
    Yeah. Oh, it makes it. And off. It's go time. It's party time at the theme park. He has. And hopefully he will get the flip. The comet is lit. At all. There we go. Oh, it goes really early. Really early.
    200:12
    Okay. Still plenty of time. Plenty of time to get some points here. Oh. Oh, he tilts. Another tilt. What? I swear it moved.
    200:22
    Seriously. I demand the official come over and look at this. What's going on? After this game, I want to go over and look at that, because there's no way that that was worse than what Raymond did for the first five seconds of his shimmy attempt.
    200:39
    All right. It all comes down to this. Classics 2 on the line. about $300 worth of difference and quite a few whopper points of difference.
    200:51
    What do you think these are going to be worth, like 70 points? Oh, God, I don't even want to think about it. Yeah, a lot of points. So about 70 whoppers, I'm guessing, on the line, maybe 75.
    201:02
    Basically, your best of the best have been here this weekend. So this is the very best of the best. All right, he's got 5X. It is party time. He doesn't need to hold it. He just got it on props almost. Just send it up for the pop-up again. No, just send it.
    201:18
    Okay, that'll do it. And Eric wins. Walk off. Bravo to Eric Stone with style. Gets the bike jump and claims his Classics crown.
    201:33
    So Eric Stone is your 2020 Classics 2. A pretty incredible finish here at Classics 2. We will talk to the top four right now. DJ, come on over here.
    201:47
    Hey. The best for first. All right, DJ representing Pittsburgh. How are you doing, buddy? Good, good, good, man. It's great to be here. Great to be in Chile, California.
    201:57
    Got to go back up north there, kind of warm up. That's right, that's right. So I don't know what to say. I took a three-egg omelet here at the end. Listen, it's a tough, tough tournament. And look at this killer field you're in. I know, I know. It's just crazy. What can I say? I mean, Eric playing a Codrick Princess, like he's owned one. You know, it's just ridiculous. Well, congratulations. I have something for you right here. Hold on a second.
    202:26
    A fourth place trophy. I get to take some hardware home. That's awesome. Okay, congratulations. Appreciate it, man. All right, where is Raymond Davidson?
    202:37
    Raymond, come on over here. Raymond, there you go. First of all, congratulations, buddy. Thanks. It's a tough field there. I mean, murderer's row there with the four of you, but tell us how it went for you. Yeah, it was just really tough. Every game, like, everyone was putting up scores, and, you know, I just tried to do as many points as I could, but it just wasn't enough. Like, not even close to enough. What was the game that gave you the most fits?
    203:04
    I don't know. Probably, I mean, they all kind of equally. I guess the Cosmic Princess one, and I feel like I just didn't get as many flips as I wanted to. Like, I made a shot, and then it went out lane, you know. I felt like you could play that one for a while, but it just didn't give me much opportunity. Well, you're all champs as far as I'm concerned. I know you've won the Classics before. It would have been nice to try to do it again, but a tough field. Congratulations, Raymond. Thanks, Jeff. Okay. All right. Yesterday's Classics winner almost made it two in a row, but Kaylee George coming up just short there on comment. Hey, Kaylee. Hold on a second. I've got second place for you. Aha!
    203:39
    Ta-da! There you go. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. I know you wanted the trophy because it's like bookends, right? That would have been nice to put those together. But still, I guess that's what you want. Come down in the final game. Yeah, you know, it's always a good time when you have a shot at winning it all. It was a fun last game. Eric really put up a good fight the whole finals. Him and I were going back and forth with big scores each round, each game. And you're not done. I've seen what he's done over the IFPA Open. I saw him destroy Rescue 911. along with many other games, the high stakes. So we might see you back again here, Caley. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. Okay, thanks, buddy. Thank you. And the winner, hailing from Florida, the weatherman. It's cold here, but he was hot today, Eric Stone. Congratulations, buddy. Oh, man. I'm going to give you this for one second, all right? You just want to describe what happened in that last game and how, I mean, I saw you talking to yourself there. What was going on? Well, I beat the last ball. So I knew that one more lane at the top was going to get me five times. Even if I hit the 20,000, I knew I had a feeling I was going to miss on the first shot. I missed on the first shot. It's coming back to the right flipper. Do I take a chance to let it bounce because I haven't let it bounce before, or do I cradle it, and then what do I do if I cradle it because you can't pass it over? So I took the chance. I gave it a bang, let it bounce, took a fly. Okay, I have to ask you a question because you and Kaylee both went 1-2, maybe in a reversed order. Here's your trophy. First of all, congratulations. Thank you very much. Are you going to let the rest of us play?
    205:12
    Yeah, yeah, definitely. Tomorrow's another day. It's pretty impressive. I mean, I know we're very happy with what happened yesterday, but, I mean, this is a whole new level. And, again, Comet was a game that you really didn't play much yesterday, but you said you had the song in your head. You know, I believe it's an assistable every game. Because I tend to do fairly decent assistable lemon games. And so even though I hadn't played it a couple times, like I said, I took the chance on that bounce. And that was that. And ball two was key, too, because I needed those ramp shots to catch Cayley. We always enjoy watching you play. Eric, you're Classics 2 champion here at Indus. Congratulations. Thank you very much, Jeff. All right, back to the booth.
    205:53
    All right, thank you, Jeff, for wrapping up. So we're ending the Classics 2 stream now. Tomorrow we're going to stream the Open. Check the website Indus.com for the time. And we'll also stream High State. And then there's other stuff coming up. Like, what are you looking forward to, Ron? Looking forward to? Yeah. Anything? Well, I mean, if you're in the area, come on down. We're at the Museum of Pinball in Banning, California, where we have 400 machines. 575. 575 machines in the other room that fight. Most of the people in this room have not even played because they haven't left here for two straight days. But it's over there. It's great. Plenty of parking. Come on down. There's also something that Carl wanted me to mention. So, let me mention the New York City Pinball Championships. And I wanted to mention the Golden State Pinball Festival, which is May 15th through the 17th, which is a new Stern Pro Circuit event in Lodi in Northern California. So that's a great event to come to for those of you that are closer, because they're on the same base from what I understand. So we're going to have a West Coast circuit event, and I believe the New York City Chemical Championships is also a circuit event on the East Coast. Is it a circuit event? I don't think so. Is it not? Because it's only, this will be the third one. This will be the third one, and I think it needs at least three times or something before it's a circuit event. I'm probably wrong again. I wonder if the chat knows if it's a circuit event. They probably know more than we do. I know it's doomed it was at this point. Yeah, it does feel like it when you're there that it's probably a circuit event, but it's only the third one, so. All right.
    207:34
    So, anyway, it's not worth being told. It's not. Okay. My mistake, of course. All right. So thank you, everyone, for watching. We will resume tomorrow with more coverage.
    207:48
    Goodbye. Bye.