Play world, play world, party time, excellent! Wooo! What's up everybody? Welcome to episode 69 of the Tucsonpinballpodcast. Welcome to Wayne's World. So in honor of the funniest number in the universe, we're gonna talk about the funniest guy in all of pinball. And Mr. Jeff Teolis is gonna finish second to Josh Sharpe. So this podcast was supposed to happen around April 1st and I got sick and got a cough and then I got lazy and you know we're right on time right on time right on schedule that's the way things go the Tucsonpinballpodcast. So what we're gonna do here is we're gonna kind of work backwards with some of the IFPA's April 1st posts and if you don't know Josh Sharpe is the president of the IFPA and I have a I'm feeling he might be the only one that posts on the IFPA Facebook page and here's some of the posts. So sometimes then here's here's the funny part about it. 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So 2022 they said that they were expanding the world championships from 64 to 80 players and if you watched the stream from Germany not too long ago you would have remembered that that post was real and I don't remember you know I didn't when I when I did go back and look through all and I actually I went to the IFPA Facebook page and I sat there on my phone and I I've been scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and scrolling until I found April 1st for the last several years. And I didn't read any or I didn't read many of the follow-up dates because sometimes he comes in as like, oh, just kidding. That one actually. Yeah, sorry guys. But yeah, I mean, typically there's there's an echo of like, no, no, we're actually doing that. So but yeah, that was real. They went from 64 to 80 players. They kind of opened up some at large opportunities. And I think I think that was that was kind of cool and then I don't know what that did to kind of their qualifying timing or you know field of players or whatever but you know that's cool there's obviously for the world championships you can't make it an open tournament but going from 64 to 80 to maybe satisfy some of those you know things where you're like you know we feel like a few people that maybe should have been on this list kind of got left out because of you know whatever country restrictions or whatever so that is a change Hello, Hello again, I'm just gonna take a bite of your crispy bacon So I would say if they if they've been running with 64 for a while and they wanted to expand I could see you know down the road if you know if PA got to like 50,000 active players in a year maybe 128 was the cap because then go on in doubling that again that's probably too large so anyways that was real. 2021. And this is the one that this one got me kind of excited. And yeah, that was kind of, you know, hey, spoiler alert, this is this one's gonna be fake. So the the post was ifp a Berg. And if you've been in this hobby longer than COVID has existed. Yeah, you will have remembered Pimberg. And if you were fortunate enough to ever attend a Pimberg, you will know that that is an amazing term and it's at this point it's legendary and I don't know what kind of situation would have to arise for for for like a pember I mean if they if Pittsburgh did it again they would call it pember but like I don't even know what like a what if Tucson held something like that would you call it to explore like you have to without the pin it doesn't really say pinball but without the bird it doesn't really you know that's kind of synonymous with pember again that's kind of how I've seen mimic tournaments that are 64 players or 100 players or 120 some odd or whatever it is. And they have that burg at the end. It's like, but you're not a burg. But if you see burg with a pinball tournament, you almost instantly recognize that this should be the format. They're going to have banks, whether it's a bank of three games or four games. Pinburg was four games. I have seen it condensed down to a three game bank but still using that same style. You have three separate days. You have one day of sorting into your divisions and then the second day is division play and you're trying to get into the top however many. In Pinburg the last couple of years it was 200 per division and then you want to be in your top 40 within that division at the end of the second day because the third day was finals and top 40 made finals. If you made finals you got cash and that was cool. Um, yeah, there is and it's okay, so let's go through the rest of the post and then we'll kind of discuss some of my because this is this is the one that like, really, it got got my wheels turning more than anything else. So, and this is the first line was that I remember picking up and I mean, it's the first line in my notes on this topic was 1500 players and that instantly I was just kind of like, I don't know that I believe that because was it the last time I read it? I know it was at least the last year, might have been the last two years, but they went to a thousand players and that took a lot of work. Even going, because they went from, I don't remember, it was 700, then 800, then 840 or 860 or something, then maybe it was a thousand, a thousand. Because I did five of them. So the very last year it was a thousand, five divisions, A through E, 200 players per division and I don't even remember how many banks. Chris They borrowed a couple from several other places and not every game at replay effects belong to the replay foundation. So, but this is where it gets cool, right? So the rest of the post went on to say there would be regional feeders in Banning, California, Starfighters in Mesa, Arizona, District 82 in Wisconsin, Pinball Asylum in Florida, the Sanctum in Connecticut, which that sounds cool. A $250 entry, which was more, well, the cost of getting into replay and into Pinball. It was about $250. Top 10% would go to finals at one location. And I don so the top 10 I think that kind of it kind of a challenge because if you watching any of the streams right now this has you know we several months behind on getting this podcast out but I going to say if you been watching any of the streams this weekend um you know that uh Southern fried game room expo is going on right now and they have their own tournament And then in terium up in Chicago uh Andy Bagwell is running a weekend of tournaments and Fox cities pinball Tom graph is there streaming the whole thing And uh Southern fried is is being streamed as well They had I think they're going to have like three different women's tournaments and multiple open tournaments by the time this weekend is over. So like they have a pretty large attendance as well. But you look at the name runs between Chicago and Georgia right now, and it's a huge difference of, you know, just kind of like the top, let's just say like the top 250 players in IFPA, like how many of them are in Chicago compared to how many of them are in Georgia. And there's a lot more in Chicago than there is in Chicago. So I think it's going to be a big difference. Wed Th InsideTV VV deliver meno Primary A lot of guys and gals from Chicago go to District 82 because it's a several hour drive and it's convenient and there's tons of points available there. So on on the surface, I was so excited. I was reading that and most of the way through, I was totally oblivious to what day it was. And I was just like, Oh my god, it's happening. You know, because we'd only been one year removed from Replay Foundation shutting down and selling off all their games. Like, that was literally the end of the hope of Pimberg happening again was when Replay sold off all their collection. And so to see something like that, and it's like, okay, if it takes a collaborative effort like this is really cool. But going back to the, okay, there's a concentration of talent in certain areas, you know, you've got in Tit almighty Titispiel Tit migrants This week's Pinball Podcast is brought to you by Pinball Podcast Network. I'm not the only one that got excited by this post. I think this one, if anything, like if there could be a way to like fairly distribute where top players could and should go. But again, then it's like, okay, well, if you if you say like every five rankings, you know, so okay, top seed in the world gets invited to, you know, let's just go down the list. So the number one seed gets invited to banning. The number two seed gets invited to Starfighters. Or assigned to. Not invited to, assigned to. And then number three goes to District 82, four goes to Pinball Asylum, five goes to the Sanctum. Then six gets assigned to banning. And you know, you just kind of go down the list until you get through, you know, the first 200, 250 players, 300 players, I don't know, whatever. And then it's, you know, whatever you're closest to. You know, it's one of those things where it's like, how do you distribute the players most evenly so that You know, because only the top 10% are going to go to the finals at a single location. So if you have a huge concentration of players in District 82 and then I walk up to Starfighters and qualify for A, then I'm going to go to Nationals and I'm going to go, you know, me as a, you know, give or take thousand ranked player, I'm going to go to Nationals and I'm going to have, you know, potentially a lot of top tier players. And it's like, do I belong there? I don't know. I mean, yes, I earned it, but Hmm. Alright. Interesting. I'll see you guys next week. Have a great weekend. Ooh, it's so good to watch me on my phone with you and stop and get it from my laptop, she's my watch. Oh man, all I have to say is bravo! Watchُ, Come on, dance- Alright. Alright. Alright. Watch. Let's keep on doing it. Alright, watching, I think that we just met and, came through the records and actually So everything happens. You have your ticket. Now you're just in the list. And then the top, you know, it's a thousand people and the highest ranked player in the world that is on the Pimberg list, they get assigned to one location. And then the next person on the list, according to IFPA rank gets assigned to another location. Like economically, that's not really fair, but pinball wise, I think that's probably the most fair way to do it. And then you have probably a proper proportion from each location. I'm going to the finals in middle America somewhere. So, I mean, in that situation, yes, somebody somebody's going to get hose. They're going to get sent across the country and then somebody's going to hit the jackpot and be like, sweet, that's my local place. You know, so is it perfect? No. But, you know, what do you what are you willing to deal with to to have another Pimberg experience? And I've got a few more comments on. Actually, you know, let's just not even go to 2020 yet. So, um, on the Pemberg front though, I, Pemberg 2016 was different than Pemberg2019, right? So in, I think it was, was it 2015, 2016? Um, I think it took like 43 minutes for Pemberg to sell out and your casual player is not going to sit there and be like, oh, I think a tournament I was supposed to sign up for, I think that opened like a half an hour ago. You know like most casual players They only hear about it at the next Tournament that's local when all the guys that are crazy enough to go travel all this stuff Are like sweet. I got into Pembroke. Did you did you did you you know like? Everybody's talking about it, and then the new players are like what's a pin Burke? you know and so anyway like I don't know that it really mattered that much as far as the timing because Near the like 2019 was the end right so near the end it got We've got more and more challenging to get into pinball because it went from 43 minutes to 13 minutes to like I don't know what it was like 52 seconds and then 2019 in order to qualify replay came back and said are you know whether they they had this data or their web host whoever was doing the ticketing like came back and said it sold out in 13 seconds. Most E-Division players are not going to be paying enough attention on that day to get tickets. So, Pimberg became more and more top heavy as things went on. And by the time 2019 rolled around, it might as well just be the top thousand players, according to ranking, just hitting F5 and everybody gets in anyways. I don't, you know, so like if, if a Pemberg style format came back, I think part of the magic was that no matter what your skill level was, or, you know, no matter how bad you're playing that weekend, they had a division for you. And I think it may be near the end, it became more top heavy than was fun. You know, like, and I'm not I'm not saying that exactly the way I want to and it probably comes off as being The special edition And from 2015 to 2016 to2017 to18 and 19 like as I registered each year and in the last year like I didn't even get it. I had a friend that got in and he messaged saying you need a ticket and I said yes and that's how I got in and you know like sometimes you just get lucky and sometimes you're bad and you show up and you're the last person in on the waitlist two years like sometimes you're really lucky. But no that's that's I have to have Ben tell that story someday I got some PIMBURG 2019 stories that I want to tell and Ben got a few even better story so maybe some you will do that But anyways Pimberg is awesome And if that was there was any way to do like a collective method to recreate that experience Jackson. In place, there's three of them that actually follow really close to the Pinberg format and some of them are really, really close. Yagpin had, what, like 240 players? And I think they were doing, I think they had four game banks and they did a three day thing where the first day was, and they had a great term for it, I can't remember what it was, but like for the first day, like what that was, that was kind of like your sorting day or something. Oh yeah, that's what it was. They call it sorting day because somebody mentioned the sorting hat from Harry Potter or something like that. And so yeah, they called day one sorting day. And then day two was your division play. And then day three was finals. And another tournament that does that is Cactus Jacks. And I think they were doing three player banks. And other than that, it was still four player groups. And I think it was three days of quality, you know, three days of total event time. And then the third one that comes to mind is the Star perf Taryp re en lose John Papadiuk, Black Water, Kaneda's Pinball Podcast, Twippies Awards, transliteregon I'm a pinball asylum in Florida to the IFPA headquarters aka Josh's house and due to travel restrictions and I think the state of Illinois was kind of grumpy as well about several restriction opportunities and requirements and everything but basically only Josh was going to be eligible because only Josh is going to be have access to IFPA headquarters and so only Josh was going to play and so therefore Josh was going to win so Josh was the This week's topic is the 2020 IFPA World Champion. That was fake, obviously. But that was pretty clever. That was a good one. I kinda liked that one. I was reading it and I was like, well, he does run the IFPA. He could just do it. People would not be happy about that, but whatever. It was funny. 2019, Indisk becomes the fifth major. And that was real and very short and sweet. And that was, that was the fifth major. And since then, we've lost Pinberg, that was a major. And then the the Papa World Championships also run by the replay organization, which, yeah, they did replay effects, which is where Pinberg was held. So when when replay went away, when the replay Our foundation went away. We lost two majors. That's a big deal. So anyway, so now in disc is one of three majors. Are they doing a fourth? Did they add one? I don't remember. I can't keep up with this. I'm not eligible for any of this stuff anyway. So I just kind of when it pops up on my Twitch app and it's like, hey, you know, IE Pinball is streaming in disc unless I'm there, which I haven't been in a while, you know, or whatever Fox Cities. It's gonna be in Wisconsin here soon I think right? I think next year it is? Either way. So that'll be cool. 2018, the Stern Pro Circuit Championship to become the fifth major. That was fake. The Stern ProCircuit Championship is really a cool event. It was way cooler when they had classic Sterns in there as well. Uh, cuz now it's just, you know, quote unquote, just. Now it's uh, just a sternament. Modern sterns and, eh, it could use a little variety. You know? Like, it was kinda cool watchin' guys step up to Meteor and Galaxy and Stars and it was not so cool watching, you know, they'd stream one game on Stars and then they'd go switch over to Star Wars and that had zero ball save and everybody was just short plunging. I was just so confused with this one and hoping that they put it on a flipper because nobody was actually skill shot plunging on that game because ... Yeah. That one's tough. and I think Dwight put 2 ball saves in that game and Josh turned all of them off. and its like yeah, when you have someone winning the Stern Championship with like, what did Andy Rossa have on that game? I'm just like, something's not, you know, there's the combination is just a little off on that. But anyways, yeah, so that one was fake 2018. So this is, this is the one I was digging for. And I cannot believe it was way back in 2017. I actually remember exactly where I was when I read this. So 2017. This is actually in my notes. It says March 31 2017. So So it wasn't even April 1st that it was posted. It was March 31st and I'll just call this the dollar. So I was at a trampoline place up in Phoenix. It was one of the cousins, the kids, you know, our kids, cousins birthdays. And so they were having their birthday party and you know, they live up in Phoenix. And so we went up there, they were doing it at this big trampoline park and it was really cool. It was fun. And I took a break and I was sitting down and I was just kind of scrolling through. And I'm like, a dollar? Wait, what? And then I was just kind of reading through and I was like, all right, whatever. So prior to this, in order in the US in order to turn in results to the IFPA, you just turned in the results, you populated stuff after the tournament was done. You made sure there's no typos and hope you did everything good. And you copy pasted your link in and everything's good. And then you submitted the IFPA. And that was So, I was just going to say that. Well, then it came out that in the future that was going to cost you a dollar per player and there was, oh my gosh, there was so much bickering and arguing and discussing and, you know, some pretty decent ideas and some just insanity. Like pin-side just was nuts. And I don't even remember if tilt forms existed at that point. But that was probably where the rationale, the more rational conversation was going on Subtitles by the Amara.org community I'm going to be a dollar and what that was going towards was 75% of it was going to the state championship prize pool and 25% would go to the national championship prize pool and the way you get that is you get the The only way to Nationals is you win your state. And now it's the North American Championship Series so now we include Canada as well. Because it used to just be the SCS and was it just called the was it the Provincial Championship Series? I don't know. Canada had their own thing. America had its own thing. Now we're all the NACS and it's just I guess it's easier that way. And it's fine. But yeah so now a dollar you know 75 cents of that dollar goes to But what of me? 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So that's and this year I, I didn't I could ask him but I didn't because I felt guilty because it's like you know we we advertised to stuff and everything and it's like yeah but we have like five or eight people that show up every time and For what you did before we do that even. Annually the cats this search was my first contacts knife overnight so it's not too far from the water in Naknowbloom this quarter, so there maybe will be at least we push the time changing it And in the Personal ninety 할� morals Monday an I'm not sure if any of these people listen to the show, but the first one I wrote down. So yeah, one comment read, LOL April fools, and that was by Tom Graff. Another poster, just Ted P. The full name was on Facebook, but I'm not really... Tom's was kind of a joke and he might eat a little crow on that one, but this one just I just said epic fail lol signed TedP but yeah so there was and then there was some people that were like okay whatever you know it is what it is and yeah so turns out hey guess what that's real because we've been paying the dollar ever since and the price pools for the state are great some states are a lot easier to get into than others and sometimes some states you just kind of have to travel to different spots so it's been true in Arizona for the last First, you know, if you say five years, um, it's kinda weird because two and a half years don't count, but it's basically the last five years. If you wanna get into state, you gotta travel to Phoenix a lot, and the way Phoenix is blowing up even more, like it's just, it's so impressive. They're the player accounts that they, they get on, on some of their monthly stuff. And even their weekly, uh, electric bat is over 100 players every week on a Tuesday. That's, that's pretty awesome. I'm not seeing any money from this actually we're eating the processing fee which yay so you know that that individual was very very vocal and used to be a very heavy poster on pin side and is no longer a heavy poster or just a heavy poster. um Wisconsin Track Ô It's not a lot, but it's more than it used to be anyway, so that was kind of cool. So, yeah, and then the April 2nd update from IFPA said, yeah, this is real. And I think, you know, everybody just kind of took April 1st to be like, wait, there's no like April 1st post. Like so was the yesterday one, like the real one. Like was that, that's a joke. Haha funny, you know, save my dollars. I think that's been a little bit more cemented as to like how it's gonna play out cuz Josh kind of sends out a couple previews and I don't they've been pretty The I'm going to be a different math and it was going to be based on your efficiency percentage not just hey here's 20 really good events you know so they were going to kind of weigh your efficiency percentage and bring that into how the top 1000 was calculated well that has a really really lengthy thread until forums there was a lot of conversation on that and at some point it got changed from a thousand to the top 250 will now be weighted C enca poriya �你好 l pandeja doku ignoranceette � drakeki,erc汝€ŸŸŇš, �´Ň paísessoleľ ŸŴŠźŴŦ ŽŠĵŧňŽżŸŃŽźšŭŸůŻŝŽŽŻťŭůŻżŒ� dining ŽŸ� commander the rules you'll just get shuffled around with in the 250 and Josh presents plenty of examples of like Hey, all these people like they literally don't move like number one is still number one number two is still number two you know and you have to go this far before anybody actually shifts and then out of the top 1,000 there's only a Handful of people that that move more than 50 spots or whatever and then but somebody did go through the the spreadsheet Horny Rub, Justine C sweat�clips tie up kosun I think that's kind of a valid conversation to be held. It's not like this is none of none of us are professionals at this spoiler alert but you know but still like if if somebody if that's your goal is to be a highly ranked player and you can do things to if not help yourself then to avoid hurting yourself then I think that's something you know to be brought up and discussed anyway so going to the top 250 that's I think there's some other percentage and stuff that's going to change as far as TGP and certified events but they're not nothing's coming to mind so obviously nothing super crazy but yeah anyway so um Josh has fun on April 1st when he has access I mean not when he has access when he decides to log into the IPA Facebook account so if you're scrolling through Facebook and What's going on cuz it might be a joke or it might be you know hey we're gonna bring back Pimberg and then they just break your heart so anyways it's all in good fun I think teals probably can write some better jokes but you know maybe maybe give Jeff a few chances that you know April fool's on on the Explanationução uhmfonervisualeen kalączki Camera