FNO streams Willy Wonka with pin quest challenges, code updates, and community announcements.
Summary
FNO Pinball streams Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (likely Stern) for ~90 minutes with hosts Ken Cromwell, Bill Webb, and Steve Beauty. The stream features gameplay, community chat interaction, sponsored pin quest challenges (with bit donations), code update discussion (1.07→1.08), and announcements including Spooky Pinball's upcoming Comic-Con game reveal and new Special When Lit correspondent Cos covering American Pinball.
Key Claims
Willy Wonka code updated from 1.07 to 1.08 with minor bug fixes released within the last few days
high confidence · Ken/Steve discuss code update during gameplay; confirmed available on Stern's site
Spooky Pinball will announce/release a new game at Comic-Con in the next day or two
high confidence · Ken states: 'the next game that we're getting is gonna be released here in the next day or two right at Comic Cons do pinball is is they're ready to release and it or at least announce their next game'
Cos (Koz) is joining Special When Lit podcast team as fourth correspondent covering American Pinball, starting next week
high confidence · Ken announces: 'paws will be joining the team next week with his first updates at American pinball' (Note: KB shows 'Cos' but dialogue uses 'Koz' and 'paws' interchangeably)
Big Lebowski machines from Ara are new old stock that have been in boxes for ~2 years while Dutch Pinball dealt with payment issues
medium confidence · Discussion of Ara-held games: 'they manufactured the games and they they held them because they weren't receiving payment from Dutch pinball'
Ken has a baby arriving in October, limiting his ability to travel to Southern Fried Gaming Expo
high confidence · Ken: 'I got a little one on the way in October so I got two weeks dedicated just for that then after that I got a week'
Pin Stadium lighting sponsorship is critical for streaming visibility, with operator adjusting LEDs to 30-40% brightness depending on context
high confidence · Ken discusses Pin Stadium's importance: 'when I'm not streaming I'm in the 30s like 32 33' and notes impact on score visibility
medium confidence · Discussion: 'Wonka kind of has like that kind of cool blue cool light cool blue LED look' but is dark; 'it's certainly playable oh yeah but when you think about the usage of LEDs'
Notable Quotes
“the next game that we're getting is gonna be released here in the next day or two right at Comic Cons do pinball is is they're ready to release and it or at least announce their next game”
Ken Cromwell@ 23:20 — Confirms Spooky Pinball game announcement imminent at Comic-Con; major industry news
“paws will be joining the team next week with his first updates at American pinball so that's exciting I'm happy to have him aboard”
Ken Cromwell@ 18:29 — Announcement of new Special When Lit correspondent covering American Pinball manufacturer
“they manufactured the games and they they held them because they weren't receiving payment from Dutch pinball so the games that were supposed to go to those early achievers are now being resold in order for Dutch pinball to try to pay up”
Ken Cromwell@ 27:56 — Explanation of Big Lebowski supply situation; reveals payment/manufacturing issues at Dutch Pinball
“when you get the pin stadiums guys you don't have to plug them in and juice them up to a hundred percent on on everything you dial the game in how you want it to where it just accentuates that artwork”
Ken Cromwell@ 15:28 — Discusses Pin Stadium philosophy and optimization for streaming/venue play
“I got a little one on the way in October so I got two weeks dedicated just for that then after that I got a week that I'm gonna try and carry over so it's kind of hard”
Ken Cromwell@ 18:57 — Personal/life update explaining absence from Southern Fried Gaming Expo
“at pinball Expo this year Chicagoland pinball Expo in October we're doing something a little bit different and it's gonna involve pinball media quote air quotes here so if you're part of pinball media whether that means you're providing content for pinball whether it's a podcast or its YouTube content or streaming content can you message me”
code_update: Willy Wonka (Stern) updated from version 1.07 to 1.08 with minor bug fixes released within past few days
high · Ken: 'we did we had 1.07 and there was a delta update that we round 1.08 a couple of minor bug fixes i believe and i think that she came out today'; Steve: 'it was a couple date within the last few days yeah okay yeah it's on their site now'
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announcement: Spooky Pinball to announce/reveal new game at Comic-Con within next 1-2 days
high · Ken: 'the next game that we're getting is gonna be released here in the next day or two right at Comic Cons do pinball is is they're ready to release and it or at least announce their next game'
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personnel_signal: Cos (Koz) hired as fourth correspondent for Special When Lit podcast, covering American Pinball manufacturer, starting next week
high · Ken: 'paws will be joining the team next week with his first updates at American pinball so that's exciting I'm happy to have him aboard'
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community_signal: Special When Lit podcast organizing media gathering at Chicagoland Pinball Expo (October) for podcast/YouTube/streaming content creators; open call for participation
high · Ken formal announcement with email contact: 'if you're part of pinball media whether that means you're providing content for pinball whether it's a podcast or its YouTube content or streaming content can you message me'
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supply_chain_signal: Big Lebowski machines held by Ara distributor for ~2 years due to Dutch Pinball non-payment; new old stock being resold to recover losses and fund continued production
Topics
Willy Wonka code updates and maintenanceprimarySpooky Pinball game announcement timingprimaryPin Quest challenge mechanics and scoringprimaryPin Stadium LED lighting sponsorship and impactprimarySpecial When Lit podcast expansion and media initiativesecondaryBig Lebowski supply chain and Dutch Pinball issuessecondaryWilly Wonka gameplay strategy and difficultysecondaryPinball collector origin storiesmentioned
Sentiment
positive(0.78)— Stream is lighthearted and engaging with friendly banter among hosts. Frustration expressed about gameplay performance ('pissed off') but attributed to competitive challenge, not product issues. Enthusiasm for game and community high. Minor concerns about dark lighting on Wonka are constructive, not damaging. Excitement about upcoming Spooky announcement and podcast growth.
Transcript
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hey what's going on pinball and welcome to the flipping out streaming Network I am Ken Cromwell I am bill Webb Steve beauty here Stevie T here we're gonna be streaming some Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory tonight cuz you have not gotten enough of this game it's nobody's streaming yet exciting except us right yeah today rightfully right no worries I want to welcome everybody in the chat here we're gonna stream the game here for an hour hour and a half then we're gonna go to After Hours where we will take our live callin segment but participate in chat tonight I want to thank pin Stadium for sponsoring the stream the game is illuminated tonight by pin stadium I also want to thank pin Quest who will be firing up the pin quests of the night for us and and generously there will be donations made if we're able to achieve these pin quests will wait for Neil to post those here we're gonna get the game going in about 60 seconds or so we'll start three player games what are you guys hoping to accomplish tonight well I want to take the glass off and hit those pin quest challenges there is not a stipulation where we can't take the glass off I don't get great no you know what have a good time as always you know a good time first place second right yeah what about you Steve you know I'd like to get a maybe a little better grasp of the rules and just put up some good scores well there was a there was a hearty explanation of the rules last week yeah it was a lot of take in so why don't we jump right into it yeah let's let's go Steve bill Ken in the order cuz that's kind of where we're sitting you want to kick this off on your game here Steve we'll start off on K if we're having any hey southwest Pennsylvania pinhead welcome to the stream yeah welcome everybody I see schmidty's in here yeah pins rule dr. jeong's here dr. jeong's here Lord helmet what up and rickettes here yo what's up buddy yeah if we have any volume issues here let us know if we're too hot on the mics or if we're too low on the game audio let us know but hey guys I see that dude hey whatever time you're in you're in but yeah definitely family first so don't feel bad about missing it Lord helmet is here what's up guys how are you Lord helmet Koz is here Brian we've got some news who announced with cos tonight hey nicely done Steve wait up your you achieved the pin Quest challenge of shortest ball under 20 seconds can I see if somebody could knock me off that board right yeah hey Koz if you're not here late that's no that's no problem at all I will - are you just gonna this let it sit in the shooter lane for the long haul - there we go is it stuck a little bit yeah oh and the pin stadium's just went down bill with the side slap so we're gonna pause for a station identification drumming we are three minutes into the stream we've got a stuck ball and a pin stadium down so how are we going to top the last couple weeks I don't think we're gonna top the last couple weeks I think the three of us at this point like as much as we appreciated the last couple weeks it's kind of nice to get back to our roots of just the three guys that are playing pin stream yeah it was great having the guests in you know having you know first and foremost Joe Katz was in last week and he programmed this game Keith Johnson who's he also was in on programming the game but he's a legendary programmer and then we had Eric Meunier who you know the hot rookie out of Jersey Jack pinball who's been involved in all the Jersey Jack releases and InDesign Pirates of the Caribbean it was fun streaming with those guys tonight a little bit of pressure in the beginning of the night as I'm trying to adjust my mic here oh and thank you for the follow MPT 3k you know I thought yeah go ahead a little bit and then when everybody had their first ball I was like alright we're kind of all on the same page here yeah well in the beginning when everybody was getting used to enjoy and yeah then those jdv guys started blowing it up so it is what it is it was fun it was good times yeah surprised I wasn't following already MP says but hey no worries man we're glad to have you whether you're following or not as long as you're in chat and hanging out it's gonna be good times again I want to thank Scott from Penn Stadium who is illuminated this game tonight on the flipping out pinball Network and I want to thank Neil over app inquests who will be giving us our pin quests of the evening and there will be three objectives in which we have to try to hit similar to what's going on with pin quest please check out pin quest comm to get additional information where you are given quests outside of the traditional scoring in which you can accomplish those quests and be given rewards during location play for pinball machines so tonight we're gonna kind of play around with the pin Quest challenge and see what we have to do this evening and Todd says he's way behind on the times he hasn't play walk now that's alright cause but pin Quest is he's switching up the challenges which is a little disheartening to me because we did not achieve any of them okay so start stacking we can't get those no we can't stack oh I see forget about they've increased huh no this game was not damaged in shipping Steve was there Steve saw the game when it when it first arrived right yeah okay all right sorry guys getting caught up here you know what we're just gonna Lord helmet we're just gonna keep on trying to do what we do and make sure that we're true to ourselves and trying to have a good time keep everybody interactive in here MP t 3k thanks for the follow appreciate it sir proves inquest no worries we're just getting warmed up what else we got here Lord O Lord how much says y'all been rocking it so awesome work thanks man yes thank you appreciate it ah second chat the man of the hour did you just dr. Phil him did I no oh okay just making sure you might you might begin a phone call early on that deal Zack and you get that thing Zack from snipping out in the house I don't know did we update the code on this so we did we had 1.07 and there was a delta update that we round 1.08 a couple of minor bug fixes i believe and i think that she came out today right her it was a couple date within the last few days yeah okay yeah it's on their site now you guys can all grab it Lord helmet what's your what's your favorite shot in the game so mine is I'd go that upper left flipper through the spinner that's satisfying yeah ripping that spinner on the rail that's great it's pretty pretty satisfying you know what yeah I don't know I really like the skill shot even though it's kind of uh I'll pay to I'll pain to get but I like that cuz it's challenging it's not too easy Zacks in chat now taking over the flipping out pinball name here so Zack are you having problems updating the code because if you are you gotta we gotta get on the same page tomorrow I was able to update Wonka when I got here and Steve updated it to 1.08 this weekend so no worries we did not put the extra post in the left lane I guess it's not intended to have it there as much as I'd like to have it there man we are gonna go without that left post so yeah so pin Quest hopefully you're taking that consideration right the pin quest of the night should be if we can put the left post in that should be like the first one yeah it should be or are we gonna it should be like bowling man where we get a handicap for this I think pin Quest is waiting to issue the pin quests of the week because he wants to make sure that we're not sandbagging here Oh Oh first of all huge job sharing the bits 2,500 bits coming out of pin quest thank you so much the official ping quest challenge tier Awards three hundred fifty thousand is a thousand bits from pin quests six hundred and fifty thousand is 1750 bits from pin quest for 1.2 million is 2500 bits from pin quest or a team quest if all three scores add up to 27 or 2.75 million 25 hundred bits only the highest tier achieve will be awarded fair enough that's excellent and an attainable and I appreciate it thank you jabbers in chat once again can these games get online already I don't know we'll see what happened I think games will be online sooner than you think Thank You Neil Lord have a look at those ramp shots man the ramp shots are smooth I really want thanks for the good luck wishes Neil I appreciate it man looking forward to try and hit some hit quests alright see ya now you're gonna have to remind me if we hit any of these because that's a lot of pink West I appreciate your generosity right yeah oh that's awesome a minimum score here is three hundred fifty thousand that we have to try together but I mean we can go all the way up to a combined score of 2.75 million I like it pin stadium Scott thanks for the hundred bits man always good to have Scott in chat yeah buddy Scott's been so instrumental on on helping not only with illuminating the games because every time we get a new pinball machine in from flipping out pinball Scott lights them up right with these stadiums and they just don't look the same without pin statements on stream or off strip also and I'm always appreciative of no Blancas a darker game - it is a very early and it's it's it's certainly playable oh yeah but when you think about the usage of LEDs that you see on all these games like Wonka kind of has like that kind of cool blue cool light cool blue LED look we play in a darker lit room you don't have overhead lighting yeah especially in this game pin stadium is huge and again when you get the pin stadiums guys you don't have to plug them in and juice them up to a hundred percent on on everything you dial the game in how you want it to where it just accentuates that artwork yeah doesn't leave any dark spots and you'll see the scores improved yeah so weird I've said this way before they were a sponsor what's up now I think for streaming you have you know I think it makes sense when you when we're not streaming I'm at like 40% riot just and I think when I'm not as streaming I'm in the 30s like 32 33 I think I had on Deadpool and it looked great it's a big difference alright our guys are getting caught up to your Midwest thanks for the challenge we're definitely I'm try and hit these yes we got 356 bitty 1.2 all right yeah we got some work to do here building oh yeah so my high score on this since it's been here and I've only had maybe a handful of games since the livestream thanks got for the bits 1.5 so that 2.75 is gonna be oh dude the first time I played this man I think I got close to eight or nine hundred thousand when we were at jjp so yeah one of those yeah one of the early run or the prototype games yep yeah I'd like to see the online connectivity I've got juicy games clear buddy Chris the pin turn what up brother well Chris how was Southern Fried guys yeah anyone nine well I'm Zach was there anyone else in chat that was it Southern Fried gaming expo nice thanks for the heads-up on that guy yeah that's not they would yeah we were just asking if anyone went to southern for a gaming expo I know Zack went to Southern Fried gaming expo I know Chris the pin turned was that Southern Fried gaming expo yeah need more pins did we talk to this do you think JJ Prue jjp crew would consider the game too dark if they were here and we asked them no I don't obviously not but I don't think so I I think they would absolutely see the advantage of adding lighting in certain circumstances I don't think that would be out of the question Oh Dennis isn't a - Chris yeah Chris Chris was there so so causes in chat cause is coming on to special inlet he's joining the special inlet team and he's gonna be our fourth correspondent now and he's going to be covering American pinball so paws will be joining the team next week with his first updates at American pinball so that's exciting I'm happy to have him aboard and the podcast Rose yeah yeah it's the podcast family grows yeah you know what i'ma show you know what line is not that far from here it's like 12 hours I wouldn't mind uh I wouldn't mind going down there the problem is is just the time right now for me personally I got a little one on the way in October so I got two weeks dedicated just for that then after that I got a week that I'm gonna try and carry over so it's kind of hard yeah yeah I first ejected definitely compliment the pin stadium's on his game before yeah so if the founder of the companies behind pin stadium that's you try to get testing it there need more pins seems like we have to add lights after market to fear number of games makes me wonder what the designers are thinking versus the user community I often wonder if sometimes the designers and not that they don't care about the lighting but maybe it's not as important because there are aftermarket options for you to increase well there's a bug in these games to development test by allowing the aftermarket by allowing companies like Penn Stadium to light the games up it kind of takes a little bit of the pressure off I think because you kind of cut down on that bomb and then there's a pretty viable option to blow the game up I don't know I've always wondered pink OS says Zack great time to announce that Dennis will be a special guest soon and at the game is Popeye so a little ribbing going on and shadow Popeye going Kristensen says that it got a lot of discussion he's talking to Zack how does the video arcade fit into the hobby so there was some back-and-forth going on Zack was getting the podcast discussion panel at Southern Fried gaming expo up in in some excitement at a 10 o'clock in the evening one night and if you want to pick up hypercoaster dennis for zack face off on pop I love it Schmitt ish okay alright Schmidty I appreciate your honesty okay yeah you know what though on the way though man I could stop in Evansville man see you and you know get a burrito and then make the rest of the journey yeah but actually won't be a bad you know I know what do you guys got to have a pool down there right bring the family leave the family and take a road trip real quick so alright so many do between you and zag do either one of you guys have a pool or no sauna forgive me I'm still getting caught up on chat what up Dave chats heavy tonight Oh hold that is verse a con hobbit that'd be interesting there you go hell yeah man I know you I've seen the pictures of you and Zack rolling jam and some Lunas I got five on it dude I'd be in the back seat of the Jeep do we believe the families that when you guys's house is the swim all weekend I mean great I don't know if we'd actually make it to the show but you know we'd have a darn good time in the process supercalifragilistic expialidocious champ challenge yeah well that was a warm-up game so the first the first score is 350 so we got to get into the 350 bank I'm pretty confident it was close oh let's let's do it again right did you screenshot the challenges or no I know but they're right there all right well let's do that just so we don't we don't forget yeah cuz my phone's on the other side okay Smitty all right hey dude either way we're gonna have to take a trip down there which we'll have to talk to you and I want to curious about your tasting process taxi project so that's great so Neela pink Westies he reposted the pin quest challenges and we will do our best to update that and and if you don't mind if you're in here Neil let's go ahead and keep that row and maybe every ten minutes or so just let people we were at Alan animus says howdy what's up al anonymous are you really anonymous interesting question good idea buddy good name pin quests there you go man I appreciate it cause says Dennis first Zak on Hobbit winter guesses based on the TWiT market trends t-shirt dude I love that that would be great I think I think Dennis and Zach have exhausted the Hobbit debate I know that the Dennis in particular has no more energy to spend on that arcade Hollywood has just followed the flipping out Network here so thank you thanks so much for for coming in here Jabra wants to know if there's any news on the next game that we are getting yeah the next game that we're getting is gonna be released here in the next day or two right at Comic Cons do pinball is is they're ready to release and it or at least announce their next game and show it at the at comic-con so Penn State says we could we could add eyepin quests Kamiya in-stream lamps no idea what that means Scott I would love to talk to you about that off air no clue what that is Jabra ass also was there no GGA Monday misery game I don't know what I don't know what that means man what's a Gigi a misery game beats me man I don't know dr. John pins rule welcomes our key to Hollywood as we do it's a big family here and the flipping on pinball welcome the next game you'll be getting is Stern's new classic Debbie DOS Dallas which is O's obviously she's and you know injecting drugs and to everybody don't Alice lots of drugs she's getting ghosts Jurassic world next we will see we will see what's next Oh Galloping Ghost Arcade gotcha Oh galloping ghosts yeah yeah okay 40 whoa get says hi well hello oh the money mystery game okay so I totally I totally misread that yeah I don't know what's going on with the galloping ghosts Monday mystery game vivid psychosis has so excited about GNR so yes the slash announces that hey we're gonna this might be a rumor but I'm gonna confirm right now just like the Sondra Peterson did with Elvira soap um there's a game coming so yeah it looks like it that's pretty cool yeah so I don't document personally at Galloping Ghost Arcade he's a good guy there's a lot of strong arcades in Chicagoland area galloping ghosts being the largest I think you'd like in the in the United States and if you ever go down like doc in that area he's monopolized everything he's got everything from you know pinballed arcades to like it's like a little town that Doc's taken out over there off of Ogden Avenue you should take a little trip down there wait and what was it like last year they brought like 80 arcade games to Expo yeah I mean that one room that's the arcade room I think was yeah just catch up here who got in on that The Big Lebowski oh yeah that's a topic for discussion yeah anyone in here that actually have one of those come in their ways okay uh oh you guys oh you guys were in there - okay cool yeah the homebrew the Homburg crew were in the in the arcades yeah oh yeah yeah uh yeah there was together there was a true Archer was in there yep so what do you like better TNA or Black Knight sort of age there I'm asking you asking me yeah dude it's in it's in notch ant keep up Frankie's asking I have more time on Black Knight Oh bro Oh Black Knights are eight so I haven't played the Black Knight bro so yeah III couldn't give an honest opinion I have maybe five games on TNA - yeah Caza jumped in with Canadian about all 40 big lebowski so yeah we'll post Casas email address so you can feel about that how much is the new Big Lebowski $12,500 if if you were to get one from coin taker but they're all spoken for at this point Scott says both great games I would do black knights hypercoaster - says TNA Black Knight sword of Rage Pro I agree with it I like to read in TNA over the Black Knight bro that's just me twenty thousand yeah cuz I honestly think that some crazy person will have it on eBay for twenty you see him over thirty thousand dollars yeah or trade for us a stern supreme Jabbar says he's become friendly with Doc Mac over the past three mg sees one of the truly good guys he is he's a good dude I'm not a mystery were they the ones built and held by distributor new production yeah so from what we understand ara just you know they manufactured the games and they they held them because they weren't receiving payment from Dutch pinball so the games that were supposed to go to those early achievers are now being resold in order for Dutch pinball to try to pay up with a ra use the overflow to start manufacturing up on on big lebowski again so take it for what it's worth you know nobody really knows you know captain 12 not new ones in boxes for two years yeah good point well you know what is it new if it's in a box for two years I would say so I mean it didn't come out of was his eye tech or whatever the Chinese manufacturer these are all the ARA machines yeah it's still new there's no batteries in these do new games yeah it's so all nine of us it's the same manufacturer from the originals so if there were if there were issues with the originals that came out of a ra you can count on the same issues coming out of the ones I would assume that are sitting there at a array for the last couple years yeah but you know what's good is it opens up the parts that people need to get you know get more good stuff going it yeah but you know their hands have been tired even if it's two years old it's still new old stock because it's still sitting in the box just like how many new old stock parts did you see on inside Super Nintendo cameras thank you for following us appreciate it so I've been working on hitting this ramp here and then trying the backhand a left flipper to the Gobstopper yeah and you can't do that you're either gonna hit the left ramp or if you completely miss it you're gonna drain on the comeback so what I need to do is hold this flipper up feed the right flipper Park it here come down flip to activate that Park it here and then backhand that for the multiball see that right flip that makes to the Gobstopper though is dangerous it is dangerous I mean it's easier here but I mean to be able to get that yeah I did not get that Gobstopper multiball going last week and that's gonna be important for us to hit these scores yeah so I'm just kind of thinking about where I'm gonna go with this and I'm not gonna back him on the direct feed from the wire form anymore because yeah it's just doesn't make sense yeah we're still gonna learn learn some of these nuances and last week was hard we really didn't have a lot of time on it last week was hard because literally we I played three games and this is the next time I've been on it is today yeah and it was literally that first game so this is my fifth game in two weeks on Willy Wonka that's why I'm so sad during the week Dennis chimed in who will be the special it Dutch pinball correspondent I think Dennis just nominated himself well no man really dennis has covered a manufacturer force already and I have it in the can I have not announced it yet so if Dennis wants to announce it we can announce it here today otherwise you'll you'll have a surprise from Dennis kriezel covering a manufacturer Ken's tips I like it Ken's tips and tricks' your quickest way to $75,000 points on willy wonka there's five yes Albert Albert alagar thanks for coming in he got me he goes he goes make some time every day to play some pinball [Laughter] oh now I have been playing pinball every day I just haven't been playing walk every day I've been playing black nights or to rage because we still have the Ellie in the studio especially when lit studio a loved it and I've been having a lot of fun on the game yeah so you know and not to not to segue into a commercial here but if you're looking for these games flipping on pinball and Zak many and Nicole many give them a call because especially if you need if you need a Black Knight sword or a jelly literally there's one here in Chicagoland area that's ready to rock and roll and it's playing great that does that game does play awesome Albert says that well ok so Dennis says it's not for him to say that on the company that he is uh he is covered for us hey then this has free reign in my eyes I don't know if you'd agree well it's Dennis man no I don't screw then this is like the all-encompassing bin wiki a pinball Smitty Thank You much man we've been practicing if you can't tell hey you laugh too but I just got ghostbusters man I was grand champ in that a few times over the weekend I know it doesn't look like it playing this game but that's alright let's think left lane is just kickin my big joke hats put up like a 5.5 millionnaire I think that's going to be on this game for a very long time yeah that's all right though no it's awesome me that was cool to watch Oh dirty all anonymous like that alright now that we've had our second warm-up game we're ready to do battle right it was dirty because I was getting some flow going and then I got parked up and go with the inventing room I said Pat Lawler games like they flow but there is some noticeable stop one go when he wants that the house yeah so yeah you know I'm sure it's a coding thing too but let's do this is a game alright we're going after this so I got a Ghostbusters approach many um yeah man look really love that game right now so good stuff we'll flip it on V at Chicagoland Expo I would have to imagine so I'm sure of it I'm sure of it they got some chicken to bring up for Stephen ever hey I've got I do have something that I'd like to put out here and I put it on the podcast today and we're gonna go ahead we'll air that tomorrow in Zach I hope you don't mind if I take this opportunity to discuss this but at pinball Expo this year Chicagoland pinball Expo in October we're doing something a little bit different and it's gonna involve pinball media quote air quotes here so if you're part of pinball media whether that means you're providing content for pinball whether it's a podcast or its YouTube content or streaming content can you message me if you're gonna be coming to Expo because there's a little something that I'd like to invite you to potentially participate in there and the email for our podcasts is special win lit pinball podcast at gmail.com it's all one word specially when lit pinball podcast at gmail.com let us know if you're gonna be at Expo and you're part of the media there's some information I'd like to pass along on how you can participate make it a great expo pin well there's podcast says stop and go don't cha know easy peasy lemon squeezy very nice thanks for that Zac i'll anonymous how long have you guys been collecting for and what was your first game I've been collecting for I want to say twelve twelve years maybe oh and my first game was Earthshaker so and I've owned to earth shakers getting a prototype yeah it's a prototype Steve what was your first game my first game it's it was it was kind of a toss-up like I kind of bought it at the same time I bought a project firepower and that's when I discovered inside and you know found the community to be very helpful but I didn't have the patience so I got a family party out of them caught the bug and that was it huh count the bug went from one to two jack ride like three days so that's what all right so I gotta jump in here jackpot is one that I've never actually been able to find a play one but I'd look I would really like to the first game I got was a friend give gave me a f-14 because he knew I was into pinball didn't really care for the gameplay and I was like you know they say he wanted you to get out of pinball right away yeah he's like you know you don't lose an f-14 and then next one was a t2 so $250 fishtails is crazy 17 years ago yeah that's even 17 years ago that's pretty amazing man I hate hearing the stories of all the people that got into these games so cheap because I just never experienced that you know as like I was always paying I think at the start of the upswing of these games so well the crazy part is literally you get into this right and you know you're buying Baywatch is it like $1,800 or whatever it was and you're like dude I'm getting mugged on this but I want to play the game and then the value blows up dude you're making six eight hundred bucks all right well neela pink OS is feeling nice which means he's expressing some pity the pin quest modification team score of 1.65 million will achieve the top tier so I feel confident listen in all honesty it takes me like eight games or like four or five pops before I settle into what I'm doing here some oh I do appreciate it pinball there's podcasts Albert Elgar orbital Albert or be the man with the more nicknames and pinball anybody else he bought a $200 jungle princess that was broken two years ago Jean Ruth Dennis from The Collected gamer slash twit pinball podcast is not saying he's he's being quiet let's go hammer down then that deal yep don't we did not add the post it left closed we're playing rock you know right lane is all the way up so they're just magnets right now yeah both the outlanes are I think they're in the middle no they're all the way up are they all the way they are yeah so most of my games I've had I would have in the middle you know for medium game break here on the special we are playing wrong getting control of the ball tonight here guys no no it's kind of a rough day for that I have to speed up the hydration process here Zack does not have the license for the Dennis shirt yeah you know what so I'd be some illegal pinball swag that it's true the license has to go through Dennis that is true you cannot make you cannot make money or offer somebody else's likeness with other permission so there's gonna be some contractual things going on when it comes to any potential Dennis a little wag swag swagg exactly hey I would love that shirt with Dennis's approval that loves Dennis approves I can't buy it I I don't do anything unless Dennis approves absolutely I've asked him on several things and yeah and guys literally I'm pissed off right now because this game is kicking our date right now but is but that why does this always happen like every time we get on these game we're not little Utley we're not this bad pinball wise and is it like stage fright because I don't feel nervous but I'm sitting in front of this game and I think I'm putting li I can't find obvious ASR errors that match the Known Terms list, and there are no Known Corrections provided. 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If you'd like me to proceed with only structural improvements (paragraph breaks at topic transitions per Rule 3), please confirm that's acceptable. hat games gonna be with artwork and call-outs I guarantee you it's gonna be nothing like the the first I don't know I think it has to be I mean that's that's what because hunters Peterson her whole shtick is based on like double entendres and in in some sexiness and so I don't know I don't know how you do the thing without doing it it'll be interesting to see how that's received and will there be an adult mode you know yeah I could see some hate mail going sterner on that deal though we'll see you better hold your breath deep deep root says Elbert do you want to pick up ahead Boss Hogg talking to cause there I'm taking a turn alright yeah heck yeah order now absolutely you know honestly cosmic I could definitely see them having a modesty stickers especially was slightly risque or the family friendly mode something like that Burt oh yeah definitely love the humor and pins you weren't Pence's it's it's a big thing oh yeah yeah that's that's in classic 90s tough you know pirate captain red I spent all my money on one of the 40 big Lebowski's interesting investments I'm sure it'll pay off though no but that's cool man Elwin Denis see men your pins coming gonna be great this fault yeah it should be real another thing you know especially if men years doing Guns and Roses that would be pretty pretty awesome hey quiz these birds are there any games with adult mode right now that you can go to the menu and switch to adult mode that's what I can think of there's been you know this has been discussed though no you know what would be good is like an adult mode for Oktoberfest yeah and that's been discussed right but it's not what they said they were going to do that so you're on the fence for an Oktoberfest because of an adult mode yeah when that does come out you will be able to switch to an adult mode because we all know that times that was good times gasoline says soon all the pins will be like spinal taps Black Album so it doesn't offend anyone anymore pirate as an adult mode the intern says Deadpool would make a great adult mode yeah Sopranos has them mode they fall grin knows that one day 42 gets holding my decision until the end of the year I'm ready to buy I think it's you Steve you're up everybody rocking the hits of yesterday yeah I wanna keep you all up on Jeff pinball nerds podcasts Davina dawg Lord of the Ring breath das Vener dog and Davina dog now Zack some flipping out pinball says new non-friendly call-outs in Oktoberfest are funny and raunchy tongue-in-cheek so Zacks got some confirmation on that said we have breaking news in the flipping out pinball stream Oh zombie adult mode is really raunchy dave says from Rob Zombie um you know I'm a big fan of spooky pinball in there pins in general Rob Zombie never I just don't like playing uh it's just never like I never really got into Rob Zombie's know the theme you know a little tough to swallow for me too so I mean I kind of get that Lord of the Ring breath is saying no talk about the Game of Thrones code stream we don't know enough to talk about it all honesty I didn't get a chance to see it we were recording our podcast when the stream was going on but I know dead flip was streaming it with Dwight they may still be streaming it with Dwight so if you are into Lord or Game of Thrones and you are into updating the code on Game of Thrones might want to switch channels and check that out and we'll still be here so come back and visit us if you're in the willy wonka and in horrible pinball play and and stupid fun banter and beer Thank You mayor you that beer you talk the same channel you've hit the channel here again is it me yes all right Tom catch now here okay so he's enjoying the p3 multi morphic set up a little more and pinball nerds thank you for the 10 bits yeah Rob taught me is good you know I just haven't had a ton of time on it and I'm really kind of theme based I've never plunged on Rob Z yeah you know what pin Quest honestly with the whole butt grab and monkey thing yeah that was a little uh a lot of people got you know upset about that so I would be surprised he wants offended these days you know some of these pins back in the day I mean there's no way hey dude almost comment to the night dominoes pin is fun unless you're [Music] can't tell us how you really that can dig into welcome reminds me of judge Oh Kathy's the left out Lane is sucking it all up tonight what reminds you bitching no just you're getting fired at all times and felt like the first six games Joe just walked away shaken and then I'm gonna like light up to wakka office Wizards the first time ever to do twice in the same game on the on a stream oh oh love your games yeah well bill leveled it so I don't know we'll see let's seeing any funky stuff going on I wonder how many Primus pins sold do not know but you can I'm sure if he emailed Stern to let you know the exact numbers yeah no they won't they will not do that Great God House says he'll have to contact American pinball tomorrow and ask about the possible adult mode great idea constantly covering American pinball for special in the pinball podcast our newest correspondent Tiki pinball they got butthurt about monkey grabbing crisp intern imagine bright a pin bought right up in my mates add a jobber says he knows that they made a hundred but do you honestly think they sold more than 30 I don't know what they sold I know there's still some available so they didn't sell 100 but over time those games will sell Chris the pin turned one of my favorite games Lord of the Ring breath at flippin a pinball all and this is I guess letting us know about the updated code on Game of Thrones now all houses have a different button ability like complete mode temp Lord of lights by play field multipliers freeze timers etc [Music] ya know well that's that's the problem E - I'm doing too much on the fly this game I'm gonna try to get control of the ball and I'm gonna try to just start multi balls so are you ready for this oh you need to pay some bills we're gonna pay some bills here real quick bills paying bills did you what you want me to start the bill paying before you leave I don't understand the transition here alright whatever it takes I'm still come back to the flipping of streaming networking I'm still trying to figure out why bill wants us to go to commercial break so he can step out but he steps out before the commercial break and he comes back after the commercial break so what's the transition for something Bill's bill bill oh no the joke is were paying bills like you know alright yeah let's just play bills paying bills being the bits mr. Bill's thanks thanks Albert Wonka's destroying us tonight put me in a mood you know so it's a location game right I'm having some problems getting controllable in general yeah I'm seeing that man so Cass has a game of Thrones le on location is the new tow ready for download a future release hi you know what I'm not sure i i I've heard they're they're streaming right now I don't know when that will be available for download Oh a few days has Lord of the Ring breath the new Game of Thrones could I don't know I I recommend if anybody wants more information about the Lord of the Rings or the the Game of Thrones code go over to the debt flip pinball stream and you can ask all those questions there we're not watching the stream man so it's hard for us to kind of comment and I don't want to speculate on anything going on over there I don't want to give any bad information claps I says you got that tilt Bob in there can oh yeah it's in there guys it's there what's up Chris paper slap save Marlon the light this has become my new buddy thanks for coming to chat me and I appreciate it oh and we got new followers so York thanks for following the channel man we appreciate it there's that Zoo York Zoo York or is it so Oh York in any event thanks everybody for coming in here every week man just hanging out with us this is this is what it's all about it's just hanging out having some fun times we happen to have pinball going on in the background essentially is what it is you're not gonna get a deep dive here which you would get it like if you went through this weekend pinball you're not gonna see scores you know lighten up the machine we're trying to quit we might let it on fire potentially yeah but we're still trying to achieve some pin quests tonight the pin Quest challenge Neal if you're still here if you want to repost those let everybody know what we're trying to do and Scott's here from Penn Stadium the game is illuminated by Penn Stadium as all the games that come in here into the flipping out pinball streaming network are so we've got a pretty solid team of people that are helping the promote pinball in general and we're happy to be a part of it happy to be a part of your mondays and we hope we continue to be a part of your mondays each and every week it's a good week a good way to start the week off - man you know I know I enjoy doing it and I don't see everybody in chat thank you very much for joining us every week I'm sure there's other things going on and you take time out of your day to be a part of this so you know it's you guys being a part of this that really makes us what it is don't forget to take some time out of your day to play some pinball so long everybody everybody have a good morning good afternoon babkin good evening how was your how was your break there it was go pay your bills good throw in 16bits thank you much hey thank you Scott mr. Destructoid I appreciate it man is it me again those are cool yeah dudes so I keep going for that right ramp and hitting that left stand-up target on the left yeah that's a straight down the middle this is a brutal stand up target that is yeah that is your beware if you don't wait too long and you go early that that stand up targets bringing you that's two balls in a row those of you that haven't seen it I'm sure I'll demonstrate since the death Thank You Neal for repost Annette ah pit Boulder's thank you very much brother and definitely pin turn so so Clark can has tier two I think he's like somewhere seven hundred thousand range yeah ten saved up so far to this evening yeah and that is for sure because what was that last Monday it was basically for us three to try to accomplish one of the ones last week which is I think was like 500,000 to Wonka bar maybe he was the one walking bar 750,000 million 5 and then we're definitely achievable yeah and by the end of the stream well the problem was is we had so many people playing the game dude yeah so you're saying I see the left out lane right out lane or straight down the middle so you're saying there's a chance having problem with tonight here Steve the left out lane the right out lane just gravity in general has really kind of screwed your game up tonight it's hard to get because and this game shoots differently flipper strength-wise than what I'm used to shooting on and I'm not making excuses for myself but like Black Knight sort of rage I mean the flippers like it's ready to go through the back of the machine yeah oh yeah where you come here crank it's a different flipper strength it's it's you know it's adequate to make all your shots but it's just not like nuclear flippers so last week I think I think was Joe mighta one end and change one of the flipper strings I think it was the left flipper I think he bumped it up like too interesting well I don't know if that no no it wasn't a flipper I think it was a a buck did he adjusted oh okay yeah in any event Tiki pinball says actually I like 4d all stream I like having a plane and listening to the banter thank you very much and as Dave father and I said before this is the best stream to listen to yeah you don't want to watch you don't need to watch the stream it's like a live podcast so that's awesome throw it over that we should just broadcast that's not over over-the-air I do not believe that our team scores added up to one point six five million on my game unfortunately no we might have broke a mill loser kid threes here what's up man how are you buddy how are you Josh Josh from Boozer kid pinball podcast Chris the pin turn says I can't wait to get a couple dollar games against these fellas in Chicago how about you can't Chris but you can't wait well you know what if you're playing burritos for bill it's gonna be a long night free but you probably able to take some dollars what game Wonka oh I don't know pinball nerds podcast with ten bits Thank You Man Albert stop sending us bits buddy we got to send you some babe we're gonna send everybody some bits back I need to jump on everybody streams and I'm gonna support these streams just don't stream Monday nights between 7:00 to 10:00 yeah and that's definitely a no-go and we're good to go but we'll definitely play some getaway at Bill's house for burritos so I mean that's a challenge we could throw up to anybody doing good Josh doing good wanna be a pinball so fellas we have a new Stern game be announced on Thursday what's you guys is yes my guess is that we see virtually this answer yeah go for it my little pony yeah no well I mean everybody knows what the rumors are I don't really know hearts to know about announcing on Thursday so and in all honesty I think if I knew anyway but I just I'm not sure what they're gonna be announcing no never know yeah thank you yeah you know that's kind of the great feel about this is uh I think you know the live podcast it really is kind of a live podcast which is funny because we do the podcast on the live podcast it seems like crystal pin turns see what I'm not doing Popeye for burritos that's just not happening what else is going on here [Music] no no yours is definitely definitely worth jumping into pinball nerds Dave Paul Graham coming in you think park or world is a Jurassic Park or Jurassic world curious to see what everyone's opinion is on this know your past pissed Golden Girls looted with Golden Girls I heard Park but who knows when I'm bitching about the left Halloween talking about pinball come on guys I guess Park so you're guessing Park overworld Cal said I also heard a rumor it was when calls the heart I hope that's not true wombat pinball also felt that maybe since it's being announced at comic-con that it could be Godzilla yeah Godzilla's been floated around out there yeah captain says neither I hope Chris the pin turn he's on tilt Jabbar says Universal isn't selling Jurassic Park anymore they just received the jurassic park ride at Universal so it will be jurassic world so sure so if it's Jurassic Park jobber we're all gonna come back and chat and question your ability to properly report licensing issues so be careful there buddy be careful well I'm bad pinball but hey this is the fun of pinball the unknown golden shower girls Oh Lord of the Ring breath why did I write now I read that in real time yeah I can't just drop the mic Ken drinks yeah Swedes in real time I ran it or save it golden shower girls pinball oh then it says world is coming in that Park there's some friendship things going on over there that's you Steve right yeah three who came up with the golden shower girls that's kind of that was Lord of the Ring breath he's on fire tonight he's reporting back on different streams he sees throwing bits out there he's draining things some rocky terrain the golden shower girls during it so interesting Chris Evans is big now they'll capitalize on that says cos jobber this street lost its family friendliness yeah this stream was never supposed to be family-friendly unfortunately so our apologies our podcast absolutely is family-friendly so we get into the stream in the after-hours it's a little bit different and I think then the channel is marked explicit so we do hold back on the vulgarities I can't hold back on reading the chat in real time so my fault drain it or save it adult modes in pinball bill I'd save it I'd save it to why would you save it bill just because when you're having your friends over for pinball night anymore make it a little bit more interesting like Demoman they've got the sweat roms for it those are in yeah I think it's okay to have an adult oh and because you have the opportunity to switch that back for family friends kids that sort of thing if adult loads of your thing it's good to have the option pin quest pinball says dudes what's the cost to play pins at most locations in your area little market research going on for pin quest pinball Lord helmet says at Lord of the Ring breath isn't that the point of gold shower girls thank you for we got Lord helmet and Lord of the Ring breath all on the same topic Lord of the Ring breath says late night pinball streams drain it or save it I'm gonna save it because we're one of the late night pinball streams it's as simple as that if I drain it we're not here anymore yeah that's true which means you guys aren't here because you're not you're not in chat no there we like hanging out with you guys on your back hanging with the wife and what which is not a bad thing the wife ship gun depends on who you ask right well I'm gonna pin ball guys just want to say that I look forward to listening your podcasts every Tuesday while I'm on the road always some of the best conversation interesting takes on things so thanks for the entertainment thank you why Matt if that's for special when lit thank you so much and if that's for this weekend pinball I will thank you on Zack's and Dennis's behalf while drivers is getting real in here huh pirate captain redeye with a thousand bits thank you very much man bits for nips as it gets into the after-hours content right that's for you what a man falls into job urges uh comment here horn theme pinball machines drain it or save it drain that man that's well okay but so like the original playboy would you drain that that's not porn well there's difference between porn and playboy and playboy okay in my opinion I mean I've not been one to promote playboy I don't I don't get Playboy magazine and read the articles and you know whether or not that's like demeaning women I have no idea but I in my opinion is not porn like porn to me is it different than like Playboy now there are other magazines that have porn so that's just how it is in any event wanna be a pinball this week and listen to every Monday so Zach if you're floating around here somewhere thank you and the whole team out there for that statement before that was for the guys special inlet thank you thank you my man so I have to jump in here on this job Bridge is a porn and pinball jobbers been a rabble-rouser for the last couple weeks and let's think about it what if you did like a president Trump versus stormy Daniels pinball like redeem a millionaire yeah there we go something living up pinball I was working on a channel ban last week picking up a pattern yeah crystal pin turn Draenor saves suggested pinball art Lord of the Ring breath announcements of announcements train it or save it announcements of announcements yeah I don't know I would save it I suppose it just it's all goes into the height pinball right now is all about hype whether that's before or after sale it is it's building the momentum it's getting people to buy emotionally it's getting people to sing the problem is when you announce an announcement too soon to know and you just don't get anything I mean it loses you have to announce it I mean yeah at some point well I'm gonna pinball was 100 bits Thank You Juan bad appreciate it man your mom already said nice things about doing 100 bits it's super nice of you man I do appreciate that Savage brunch says what pinball isn't suggested yeah there's a lot it's even in some of the games that look family-friendly there's a lot of underlying themes or underlying things going on in back glasses and artwork and things like that so it's all good Keri Hardy's chimed in with some porn pinball hey Jerry what's going on I just came back and I saw that was the first thing I read right I was laughing so no 861 wants to know what he missed it's been an it's been an interesting stream tonight does that meet player 3 I thought you were player 1 and Steve was player 3 I thought so too right uh he got the extra ball someone got an extra POW didn't go for I think that's you Steve player 3 so that must be you what happens when you start switching the the rotation I know or the ring breath with the with the the gobble hole now the gobble hole is part of pinball history and it doesn't mean what what we think it would mean in the context of the conversation that's happened over the last 10 minutes or so but maybe we switch gears a little bit here and get this back on track the stream thank you for joining us on the flipping out pinball streaming network I'm Ken Cromwell it's a bill Webb from specially when live pinball hot gas it's our friend Steve Beatty we're at Studio B tonight and this is a biddies place thanks for joining us having some microphone issues tonight with I don't like this this pop filters not any good so you're gonna drain that pop filter I'm gonna drain the pop filter the pop filters reminded me of you as Kevin gets knocked out I will be shutting that out by the microphone so Lord helmet dude you have a good night to bring back the ball eater yeah let's go into the game gentleman's Yeah right you got some some words to say everybody ends their game and they step outside kurono 861 yet definitely a great shooter I still think the code is good man I know there's some people that have some things to say about it but you know I think you can it's all what you make of it in all honesty in my opinion wanna be a pinball says I've seen a significant amount of tournament or of torment on that left stand up target on the right ramp absolutely I'm gonna go to pin gallery with a friend of mine on Friday going to put some quality time I wanna come back man you have to have risk versus reward shots and the nice thing about that stand-up target that's to the left of the right ramp is that it makes a very wide inviting ramp still risky and unless you have your game on where you're hitting ramps easily that right ramp as close and as inviting as it is still offers a risk factor because if you're a little bit early it's literally coming right back in your face cause I don't want to read that out loud yeah guys let's get off the gobble holes let's get off the porn pins let's get off the any type of colored showers let's our we're gonna reset the chat here a little bit so we're gonna start from scratch here gentlemen and ladies if you could only play one pin for a month this is from Neil a pin quest which is an Oktoberfest black night sort of rage or Wonka for me it's vodka I'm gonna have to say Wonka or Oktoberfest you know what I think you can put more time a black night sort of agent I know you really didn't get an opportunity to do so I think you'd find new appreciation for the game you know what it's not that I don't like the game but which one would I rather try and master those would be it Black Knight I did like it I actually do like the upper play field on it but I just liked I really liked the modes in Oktoberfest and obviously Wonka's just a great theme wombat says agreed on that he's currently on Al Kooper nightmare Castle if I could change one thing about the game it'd be to have more standard target instead of all the posts that said it loved the game I've heard that being stated before so that makes sense Chrono 8:51 or 861 says similar question wanna converse Black Knight premium I'm currently playing Black Knight Premium and I'm currently playing Wonka in between the two I'm going to Wonka that being said Black Knight sort of rage premium Ellie is one of those games were it if you're looking for the game that gives you the feeling that that you want to just put one more game one more game one more game that game like hits it out of the park do that fun yeah yeah and I'm not shilling the game it's just it because I had my doubts about it and it's it is a finding - you know what and I've had both Black Knights I don't know Gerhart he says you get sent to hell you have only one machine that you can play for eternity and it's your least favorite machine what is it these favorite so you're going you're going to hell and you have to play a game that you hate fraternity cactus Jack's our f-14 because it's so terrible I want to have it do this one on eBay right Bugs Bunny what would your no I'm just thinking this like millionaires just something millionaires pretty terrible there's the post that we all hate tonight right there yeah you are spoiled pins rules we got the Pirates and Alice Cooper's nightmare cast is the best bang buck yeah I agree with you Dave al-tohra bye-bye I still got one more game feeling from Walking Dead premium yeah you know what that's really [] that is a is a it's a crazy game it is it's cool savage brunch Bugs Bunny that's obviously for pinball hell Dave I have to agree with you a Popeye pinball sellout demands viewers by Black Knight for me it might be guess what system 11 pin I never ever would like to own ever again millionaire yes millionaire shootout now I'll take a Sharkey shootout Sharkey shootouts not assistant 11 them it is it is I don't think it is is Sharkey shootout a system 11 someone out here he's got enough no Shirky shootout as a stern pin isn't that was with the Black Knight that are the Black Widow the Black Knight the Black Widow Jeanette Lee yeah it's got the weird head that's a system eleven pin Shirky shootout was like in mm yeah it was that was a white star by then yeah white star right why is the ball still go I don't know Steve had a ball saved there and he's generously letting that out there goes thank you Joe that was your pin questions of a very generous Oh chrono just traded in 1812 for a Sharky's Sharkies is a solo 11 bro know I've been looking for a class of 1812 for a while what does that early Stern's 2000 pool pinball games Sharky shootout shark me Sharky's is legit there sharks on the background there sharks in the game it's a it's a jerky shootout is it system 11 we're talking about dude you've never okay Sharky shootout was coded by Dwight Sullivan it's a stern it's a story I might be getting my title and it's the Black Widow the Jeanette Jeanette Lee who's featured in that game and they had like a weird showcase style head yeah okay that's similar but there's another cue ball Wizard 11 now that's that's got Lee if I believe cue ball wizard now we need a research hang on guys cool sharp wait and who will start that's not is that the system 11 okay well there was like 40 to pull theme system 11 depends here where's Dennis kriezel so Dennis owns at Sharkey's yeah okay okay all right so I think I think Dave's got it pool sharks Dennis is saying this way okay so pool shark legit you guys look this up there's a shark okay just you know chrono Chronos 861 he's gonna be right back all right trying to make Dennis's double F fast there so yeah sorry dudes I was my answer there Oh bill wet with the extra ball we're gonna ride this out for another 15 minutes or so and we're gonna go into the after-hours portion of the of the nights thankfully we were able to get to tier 2 pin quest challenge illuminated by pin stadium and hopefully we can hit another tier here tonight at some point fogger and pull sharks is Bali I think his oldest loves it and always want to play Chicago Street drove me nuts so that's a Brian Eddy game what's Wow Dennis even with some swears it's not a Brian Eddie game he might have been on tip on Wonka at least what I have noticed so far your ball is resting underneath the upper right flipper yes all right Carrie yeah you were probably watching me I see that probably multiple tallish I was a little a little upset oh there you go right yeah you just got to shake the machine like it owes you money yes we did speculate already on Thursdays reveal [Music] I don't know if da jeonse is really a dead title I mean I could see the appeal to it I don't know about yet - I mean shark wheats big these days other than that what else are people talking about with sharks I mean sharknado sure yeah oh yeah everybody's jaws is gonna be a [] Oh Dave we're steering clear that conversation so we're not gonna acknowledge that but I did read it wombat says pink west I wish I wasn't I really wish I wasn't but with the licensing is just there I've been hearing about it my all right so I I jumped in on a conversation late that's that jaws is my dream theme so holding out a hope and dr.2 million for 2500 bits and I'm at 840 2000 so I've got a lot of work to do but if the extra ball is still lit I've got it so you're saying there's a chance there is still a chance it is lit I see it from here I only touch the flippers like four times with that last plan because Steve was having a moment tier 2 achieved Oh number Jack I'm super really intense I needed that extra ball at least that time changes we're approaching here can you yeah you know one point to Scott is definitely mansion thank you Scott awesome you know I wouldn't be surprised all this great guys watch this the lights in this game unbelievable don't let that lien dude ice that if you do actually skip there man that happens every time on the first ball Wow magnet did you see that oh dude it's alive it is Wow Thank You pinball nerves for the 10 bits sorry I'm just kind of focusing on ten here this is Carmen we're seeing the game guys it's special [Music] thanks for could be appreciate you joining us hopefully we'll see you next week well not Dave I'm staying to finish this Lobby David that's awesome yeah we should have walking next weeks though approaching tier 3 boom can you get it from no do I think we might uh 131 plus 47 is 170 something and what did you have nice dude no I think we needed a combined man I don't know how that playing outside a while they get this it's the last game you got you got to get yourself going freelance we got 1.6 million between the three of us last game I think we needed 1.6 million for the first singular for a tier and then we needed like two points something combined score oh yeah it's okay it was it was it's fun with the bin quest that's awesome pin stadium with 2500 bits Wow man thank you I mean that's a nice clothes of the evening for the pin ball playing thank you very much man no it's got always he's already done so much cuz he's putting these on these games on display with the pin stadium lighting yeah go to pin stadium calm if you have any issues talk to Scott cuz the one thing I know about Scott again I say this I like to associate myself with good people so I got bill here so I got Steve here it's why I so state myself with Zac you know with flipping on pinball in the coal Scott with Penn Stadium Neola pink West I mean these are all guys that like our good dudes so it's just nice to have it so thank you very much guys thank you sponsoring Ivanka tonight we're gonna transition over to the after-hours pin quest what a way to close up the night man that's that's hot it's on fire Kenan was the man on this I'll say this man that the pin quest challenge just creates a different approach in a different level of really one of the key playing the game makes it it makes it thank you do you want to be more compared yeah it does but but it's if you're not the most competitive pinball player in the world you could you yeah you can still compete there these quests exactly you know what I mean and in the in the quests are achievements but like in pinball it's awesome every Slayer man you guys are bringing a heart at the end thank you guys give it up the cat man hey let's give it up to Steve for hosting tonight at Studio B again tonight my podcast partner I want to give it up to Zach many in the coal many and again that sold out of Penn State you know super super fun night it's just it's uh it's good times and followed off by everybody in chat man I mean this is what makes this everywhere that uh you know really just takes us above and beyond all honesty guys thank you so I sincerely like thank you so much it's awesome again it's all going back in and making this a better stream unfortunately probably not making us better pinball players but are you guys really here for the pinball we're not we're not in a competition pinball stream this is everybody hanging out having a good time so let's transition over to aftermarket you got to get cruise everybody thank you very much sorry I got to be up at 3:45 and in our profession we can't afford to be out of our mind tire cuz safety comes first so everybody have a good night thank you for joining us and hopefully we'll see you guys next week and I mean everybody have a good morning good afternoon and good evening everybody have a good morning good afternoon good evening and don't forget to take some time out of your day in place and build pinball so long bill thank you all right thanks guys hey we'll be here in 60 seconds let's do this and we are back as bill Webb's getting ready to leave the studio here for the after I spy bill Webb little bit today buddy whoo now Steve you've actually you I don't think that I need to open this right now unless you're gonna share with me because it's it's 936 in the PM and it could get a little bit interesting but everybody welcome to after hours now before you call that number let me get the number set here let's split that so don't call the number yet because we have something that we need to do here no and the the numbers ringing but I can't pick up because I asked you not to call the number yet so you're gonna have to call back caller I can't get you you got ahead of the program there I couldn't get you all right give a chance let's call back here so good times tonight on the flipping out streaming network and we'll be here for one say all the night let's see what's going on here Dave fall grant says go to bed bill bill is going to bed I collect the gamers Dennis there wasn't it to a podcast today so Zak where is the TWiT podcast when can we expect the TWiT podcast and if you don't mind Zak could you call into the flipping out pinball Network hey thank you Steve cheers Cheers ever hey cheers everybody here in chat cheers everybody that's been supporting us and just stopping in every single week man we dig it we dig it try to call and it's 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even come close on this machine no no I have an either I haven't even named you know what I wanted to let you guys know years are like this Nichola myself many in his life MJ cephalic slaps a pinball podcasts were all at southern-fried Gaming Expo this weekend in Atlanta it was a blast my voice is about shots and my apologies there but I can't tell you Ken how many people I had come up and tell me that they loved the flipping out pinball streaming channels Oh awesome hit enough you know it's it's we have a blast doing it man and if it wasn't for you like considering us to do this it never would've happened I wonder like how different things would be for us right now especially over the last few months and I know it's too early to discuss it but maybe not this year but next year I would love with this flipping out pinball channel was somehow in the conversation for twit I mean I think that would be no yes I mean it's a it's a totally different approach to a stream and pinball right it's 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that game I'm gonna be honest but it's actually yeah that's kind of addictive so I'm tweaking that to make sure it's really really well are we gonna be able to see anything on straight down the middle in regards to like an overview of that game very soon you'll be able to see it there as well as listeners make sure right now to go to the flipping out pinball youtube channel so you can see all the video on demands from these streams that you're listening and following right now as well as exclusive content such as opening out the damage Willy Wonka will be doing some over twos of all the brand new games so that's another additional YouTube channel you guys can follow in addition to the straight down the middle channel called explosive new stuff in pinball so make sure to go follow your busy guys act you've got your hands and a lot of different projects and they're all beneficial for pinball so I mean thank you for what you're doing and taking on the distributorship war you know roll is again even better for pinball because I send anybody that I know that doesn't have a dependable distributor to you and Nicole and from the feedback that I've gotten all from the people that I I know I've referred your way it's been impeccable so thank you I can I can I can tell you there is no way in hell that I could do any of this without my wife because right now we're watching the stream we're doing paperwork together she does all of our billing and stuff so it's your call and you get a beautiful female voice that is not mine doesn't wrinkle so from from us guys there bill chin CD you guys know not only do we appreciate you appreciate you but we truly truly love you guys as friends so thank you and listeners followers let's give them one hell of a colon show let's do it yeah let's do it I have a question chrono 861 wants to know if you sold the cgc remakes from that show do you have anything left show eyes for CGC you know we actually make the sale that we reordered for the show special fell through so we we brought it back to the shop it is available yeah that's $500 there's a Black Knights order a jelly that said special when lit Studio a is still available to ring we got that for sale we suppose just premium home mods we have I think we still have an Oktoberfest there was a show special brand you opened at that I said you want to save some money and not pay full price boom give me a message we'll get it out to you awesome guys sounds good brother you got anything else going on anything in the fire you'll be going to bed when bills waking up so do you sleep groans or how does that work like how do you fit in sleep exactly you are traveling flipping out channel bro do you even sleep thanks a lot Zach I appreciate a man let me brother so that's guy hey like I said potentially the busiest man in pinball what we're gonna do tonight with the flipping out in the live Colin show we're gonna keep the calls moving so if you do call in the show we ask that you you know have your point articulated let's discuss real quick and let's move it along let's get some people on the line so that we can get as many people to participate in time as we can it's 9 944 in the p.m. here before Chicago Central time Chicago the heart of pinball a lot of people coming out here thanks for calling the flipping out streaming network how can we be of assistance hello you're on the air how are you buddy no man everything's alive everything's live and cooking on the flipping out streaming network so hey so one thanks for calling because I did ask you to call in real quick and two quick things if you don't mind 1 congratulations on the birth of the baby right everybody Brian Costner you know him from pinball you know him from being in the forums you know him he's just a very active individual pinball enthusiasts and we appreciate it number 2 thanks for coming aboard on special when lit pinball podcast to cover our American pinball so I'm looking forward to your contributions and thanks for joining the speciality man appreciate it yeah be glad to help you any way I can yeah well you're already helping out cuz you're calling the stream what's going on with you man what are you playing what's what's happening get a couple minutes dude I'm not playing anything I've been in the hospital unlike my wife I said the c-section you've had a baby oh yeah no that's tough man were you able to hook up the pin stadiums for the birth I don't blame you man I don't blame you childbirth is a beautiful thing and I don't need to see all of it outside it's just a bit outside but yeah that's great man I appreciate you coming I appreciate calling in and I'm looking forward to working with you over the next several months and let's see if we can you know knock it out of the park especially when Linton yes sir there's anything I can do to help you just maybe add a few little jokes every now and then or something like that I kind of make light of things that are serious but you know have fun that's what it's all about for sure it's all about me and don't be a stranger on the streaming channel but we'll be we'll be best buds on the podcast well the thing about it like me you know I'm kind of new to all the streaming and twitch and bit but look I figured about tonight gotta got a few bit for you okay you know and thank you very much man that's totally not necessary but I dude that's an interesting perspective because I was in the same boat a couple years ago I didn't know what was streaming was I thought it was something my kid was watching watch people playing video games don't know what we're doing are we live right now yeah we're live man this is recorded but it's great that you know from that perspective for somebody that's not quite sure and and when you're not sure of something a lot of times you kind of you just you tend to stay away because it's that's out of your comfort zone yeah so thanks for breaking out of the comfort zone and we hope that we've opened up another channel for you to kind of experience what you love and I know that is pinball Brian so I appreciate it kind of a new adventure even if it's just a little dipping my toe in the pinball media waters yeah man well listen you'll be fine come in will hold your hand and then pretty soon you'll be swimming in the deep end all by yourself right Yeah right supposed to be fun sometimes inside turns it into you know drama yeah but Pincott supposed to be fun and anyway I can help just let me know glad to help you out a man will be reaching out to you and we look forward to hearing you every single week man thanks for calling in Caza man go change the diaper brother we'll talk to you soon all right all right man see you yeah so bright Costner there's always these guys that like you see like on Facebook and and like you get to know like these guys and in the kind of their personalities by their posts and kinds is one of those guys where it's just like he's got a good sense of humor he's an enthusiast he's a collector he loves pinball so we're glad to have him call in here to the flipping on pinball streaming that weren't Lipan out as we go ahead and check chat we apologize if we don't keep up with chat a lot with the calls because it's hard to do that I'm Way behind gamma code says keep hoping you'll pick up a day one pinball correspondent hey if you want to be a correspondent special inlet pinball podcast at gmail.com email us and we can fit you in I collected gamers dan is still looking for a Dutchman correspondent yeah yeah well you know what that correspondent wasn't anything that needed to be used until up until recently so long nerves a collector gamers who is Dennis kriezel dance craze are also co-host of this week in pinball every other week dennis has his hands his hands full and Albert says I'm gonna apply to be a Dutch pinball pin turn for special and let Albert you you get a hold of me tomorrow and you are in day one buddy I would I would love to have you come aboard especially when live team it's always good times gamma go at eclectic gamers this week dutch told a bunch of told a bunch of stuff we are assuming his lies tune in next week for more updates so not to promote the podcast on this stream but we did discuss this in in some depth on our podcast that will air tomorrow and that's special it pinball podcast zack thanks for letting me plug the podcast a little bit let's get back into some flipping out let's get into some live calls who's got what to say come on in you can ask us anything it's myself at steve BTW we are at studio be here steve for already and we are sipping some cocktails and we are taking some calls as we go to the next caller thanks for calling the flipping on streaming network how can we be of some assistance to you this evening hey first of all it's going great i want to tell you this and i've told you this probably on the phone I've told you this via texting and probably via messenger you're one of my most favorite people in pinball man because you got it all covered yeah first of all you're a good genuine dude you've got an awesome product that I stand behind and you support your product and it's reasonably priced man so like you you over you encompass everything and I'm happy you called in because they open up pinball Network what's up man what's going on oh you know hanging out here on the stream with you guys like every Monday night I love it I know you guys are doing a great job and I think it's just a great format and I don't know I look forward to it good way to start the week out for sure I look forward to it too I always wonder like I do to people coming out of the weekends if maybe they're kind of slumbering a little bit out of Sunday you know Monday is usually a day you don't look forward to but I'll say this like for me personally when I wake up my Mondays I know that there are podcasts that are uploaded on Monday mornings that I can I can listen to while I'm doing my Monday morning activities and then you know it's nice to know that you've got some streams I mean there's a lot of great streams out there our contribution is kind of doing this it's a different approach to streaming but again I hope people enjoy knowing that on Mondays they can come in here and just hang out and Scott you've always been so gracious with your time Scott you really have man yeah all we see in chat man and it's III feel like embarrassed sometimes like that you're even throwing bits our way because you do so much with the pin stadiums and allowing us to put these on the games it's just it's humbling and it's nice and we appreciate it man yeah that could make our first conversation when we were talking when you became a customer like I was about two years ago and I remember walking you through that install and the attack from our tank from where exactly you were even mapping some pictures that I needed for some of the connections on the remake and then your little girl was like talking in the background and we were like getting it all together and got I got rid of her like we got a new baby so yeah no kidding talk to me when I'm on the phone with scallop in Stadium here no it's good times yeah but it was fun like we did kind of collaborate over it and figure out where to put that that UV flasher connection on the mothership I do remember that yeah like two years ago and then like Expo Expo I remember you came out and parking a lot and like delivered like anchors like a 12-pack of the toothless the beer brother yes absolutely yeah right after we talked on the phone and I think you just picked up the kit and installed it no that was that was like the groundbreaking year for me you know at Expo was starting off there and hauling all my games up to the show and just seeing what people thought and you know just cross my fingers I've had many a pin stadium kits after that initial purchase on attack from Mars and never once have I been disappointed with its ability to transform or enhance a machine so and that's the honest truth I not lie about that so I appreciate it Scott like you're a good dude and you're so good for the hobby and I think to a certain extent you make the manufacturers jobs a little easier or they they can lay off a little bit of the lighting knowing that you'll pick up any type of slack that might be thrown our way so thank you man oh yeah yeah you know it all works out it's all good and I appreciate it you know you guys and you know Steve jumping in on your stream with everyone too I mean it's been great I think he's a good he's a good partner for you guys you know and appreciated me though I don't know just keep it up and I'll look some other callers get on just want to say hi to everyone no I appreciate Scott and and thanks for ruining the contract negotiations with Steve I was telling him that he wasn't very well received and he was lucky to be coming back next Ken's out Scott and Steve well Vince they do get mad don't know if you get there gonna be a burger at all did you yeah no I will not be a pen bird but before you leave I mean how can somebody get ahold of you if they have questions or how can they go ahead and get more information on the Penn stadium product they just if they go to Penn Stadium dot-coms be the easiest thing and then also to there's a really good thread on Penn aside which as a matter of fact just hit a hundred pages that were like I don't know I'm that's like 40 I think it's like 4500 posts but it's a really long thread of some good content and it's funny to get from the beginning to the end just to see where things progressed from or even like caveman versions of the PinStadiums and I had the idea to so now yeah that's awesome man it's great man it's a great story yeah like you you make a great product Scott dude things on everything you've done you know we look forward to hanging out with you to talking more man yeah oh and if you're in town soon enough we'll hook up those PinStadiums to build webs white for the birthing process that's gonna happen in October [Music] good times we appreciate it man be good and I'm sure I'll talk to you for them but I'll definitely see you here in a few months Alon Scott get on those pin babies alright man thanks a lot Scott see it yeah so I mean pin stadiums it's just a nice guy man and he's got a great product so it's it's so it's always nice a double dip on a product that is backed by somebody that's just as as good if not better than even if you don't want pin stadiums for the game that's that's cool don't talk to Scott of the show man he is the coolest dude agree - agreed nice this guy agreed t keepin balls like I saw a pin stadium 2017 Expo and I instantly bought a set and they put him on Jack Bob so that's cool Russian fan 1974 he put him on his car so he's got some ground effects with UV glow don't there lumberjack I see some fish tails back there worth it I'm on the fence so Steve fish tails is there a second thanks for calling flipping out streaming network you're on the air you know I told him to go home I mean you guys were too busy playing wonka bill takes your advice to heart Dave so what's going on with us what brings you to flipping out Dave I'm just here for adult supervision so hey uh we got a lot going on this week guys the the hype train hasn't really gotten that warmed up here what are we - this week what happened Thursday boys I am named calming I'm not - anything for Thursday whose turn yeah because I don't know what's coming on Thursday that's kind of exciting though not knowing isn't it it's kind of like well I know there's this box under my mom's bed it kind of looks like an Atari 2600 you know no I prefer not knowing what's coming up I mean and this is the thing from like a from a podcast standpoint if I get the information I can't do anything with it anyways because then I violate the trust of the person that shared it and you know and then there's always the risk of sharing what people that are close to me but how how hard is it to keep a secret because if I share it to somebody close to me then they share do something that's close to them and then that's where a rumor starts so I'm better off just not looking and just kind of commenting as it comes out you know I mean what's what's cool though is you got somebody like it's like I don't know if you guys watch Walking Dead but they got that talking dead show at the afterwards and whenever somebody like they have somebody that isn't on the show they're like that you know like to some regular football player or some and like he'll start talking about what he thinks is gonna happen yeah I find that more fun because you guys can be as tight as you want I'm excited about what's going on though I mean it's it's yeah I'm guessing that it's not I'm peers the thing I don't think it's Jurassic world because Chris Pratt wasn't interviewed and didn't spill the beans slash build the bean so it's like the the pinball get builders are keeping their secrets it's it's the it's the talent but I think it was KITT what Ken saying is it's a it's golden something girls coming out oh god no we're not going to talk about that and the other and and we'll cruise out here in a second but think of it this way like pinball's is important enough for stars to be interviewed to mention it whereas before it was probably a blip on the radar in which they got a little bit of a residual and they did it not even because they cared about pinball but now you got slash that wants to talk about it got consigned or Peterson that wants to talk about it because it's trendy and it's in so I mean that speaks it estimates for the homage and Gary Gary Stern was at the White House today what was he doing there he was there for building America he was there and yeah it was the White House apparently was a pinball machine Dave are you special Winley correspondent for stern pin boy oh oh that's what you want to do I didn't know I didn't know I was there so yeah gary was there and yeah you know it's just exciting for everything but like I posted it earlier Denis see Elwyn Eric all these games are coming out the end of the year or beginning of next year and it's like it hasn't even started yet and we already have Wonka sitting there at your place so yeah holy crap it's gonna get great I think Walker came out of the right sides because it's got itself exposed and it you know it I've kind of jumped out in front of the competition so we'll see what happens it's always exciting in pinball and there's not anything more exciting when you're on the evening of a reveal now in it for me anyways I love it and I love seeing what's gonna happen I love how these games are they come to fruition whether it be something you wished for or something they can't wait to play it's always about the anticipation and I can't wait to play whatever Stern has coming out next and then we reveal the always yeah yeah the comic-con reveal there's gonna be music and stuff it's it on the lip yeah I miss you man it's gonna be you know it's gonna be like James Brown living in America at the beginning Araki I think that's huge Gary Stern coming out with an American flag shorts will be pretty awesome be good be faithful always be playing pinball and we're gonna set up on WWE play field do what you got to do we're gonna have a plane with the old Plainfield pinball invite night where we have all you guys out from playing field in the stream with us so stay tuned for that and we'll get on the same schedule I know you're in the area right here recently so maybe we can try to make something work sooner than later stay tuned all right brother stay tuned play better oh thanks baby always good here from Dave fogger and they fall green have always been like just becoming if he's not already pinball ambassador okay so always holy Dave's name on everything like how does Dave know about Gary Stern at the White House either he knows somebody at the White House or he knows somebody at UH Stern maybe he knows maybe Dave have we seen Dave and Gary Stern at the same place at the same time because there's a potential la thing going on there we don't even know Brian see what's going on good point hey caller thanks for calling the flipping out pinball Network you're live on the air how can we help say what hey Bob dog here how's it going guys this hog dude what's going on man thanks for being shat brother how are you man good times tonight fellas excellent story and thanks again I'm doing pretty good playing my Walker right as I'm watching you guys dream man down here I don't know how to avoid that left out lane it's probably what you should be learning dude I gotta tell you I wish I could tell you I got three million without the post but I got it with the post guys like oh hey I don't blame you for putting the post in there there were a couple nights or a couple times tonight where I wanted to put a post somewhere else how are you liking welcome in and were you in on the game when it was initially released or did you take time to kind of play to make a buying decision yeah I watched the April 12th release by Buffalo and I immediately called a few distributors the next day and made a pre-order okay so I was in sight almost sight unseen you know but I definitely did not play it before it showed up in my office nice so I mean the stream guys not gonna believe this man what's that I got play field number zero one signed by Jersey Jack on like a really nice man that's weird man well we have the same one here that zero are you serious you got four zeros well I call I actually emailed Jersey Jack and I asked him what's this mean and the guy named see Steve zamansky from jjp support yeah send me an email back and said hey dude that means your play field was like the first one to go on the line I was like oh dude awesome it found the perfect home that's pretty crazy you know what and you know for some people that doesn't make a big deal for a collector that wants something that kind of stands out is kind of eclectic and a one-of-a-kind I think that does add some value it's okay it's like ten thousand dollars and where did Jersey Jack sign the he signed the playfield or did he sign the backbox no it's under the play field right by the left flipper coil set up at the neck that's pretty awesome ating I did this with a guy who loved it the most I'm pretty sure they knew was coming here so did you have you bought purchase other JJ peas or was this your first one no dude it's my first jjp welcome you know what if you land if you like Wonka I encourage you to go back I'm sure you've played a lot of these games but have a game like Hobbit in a home environment and be able to kind of take that all in his pretty huge same thing with Wizard of Oz dialed in great shooting pin if he doesn't appeal to everybody but I'm telling you what like there's not anything to disappointing with the jjp releases and I think it at one point I said I'd be pretty content with all five jjp pins as a complete collection for me for at least a short term it's those because they're that they're that impressive so good for you man I you know how great job brother and congratulations and that's a cool story that you got that play field so I'm curious to see if if your phone will be ringing off the hook for and you know and in order to keep it up for sale they need that first you can trade it in for Big Lebowski or some hand hey I don't know what's gonna happen next week we're gonna see what happens with Stern I know that we do stream the newest releases so there's a pretty good chance in all honesty that we probably have another week of Wonka unless Stern's got something that's not just revealed but then has already been on the line you might see a surprise pop in here sooner than later I can't talk about that yet until as that gives me the go-ahead actually two potential surprises to kind of fill the gap between releases so we'll see man yeah we're in the in the in the dark to to a certain extent so we'll keep the reveal I don't know as a surprise I suppose yeah don't miss it on YouTube they're gonna do the Comic Con reveal on Thursday I think it is maybe Wednesday yeah remember I think it's this week at Comic Con very cool man we'll be looking out for it and I appreciate you being in chat I appreciate you calling in and don't be a stranger brother check in with us every week if you can I mean a good time see you man dude so zero one Jersey Joe what is that man it's pretty cool it's cool that's pretty no it's cool cuz you're seeing some of the manufacturers they're like stuffing little goodies on these new inbox purchases you selling a sword come out somebody the purpose at dinner oil from Stern you've got like autographs or random autographs from jjp it just really personal personalizes the purchase and it makes you feel like you know you're not just another statistic in regards to those games hey thanks for calling the flipping out pinball streaming network this is Ken and Steve hey hey how are you brother not much not much I'm all right I was trying to I'm usually busy unwitting on Mondays so I have trouble listening up I'm sorry pretty much when you start the after hours so I just need to follow up on something what I was trying to listen Dennis Bill's guy was it who I know bills gone i thinkin if it's okay she can throw them under the bus so I'm sorry that's not okay I need to know who-who there was adamant that Sharkey shootout with a system 11 knows me though that's Steve so I got pool shark okay alright now first of all I need to address skin it looks like contract negotiations are back on the table there we go you know solve your cloud man because of disinformation importantly I know I had that game right I'm busy I'm busy I'm trying to type on the phone I'm like no no but you were so sure I don't know I felt a little bad for you though so you have had a pool sharks or did you just know I had a pool sharks I have a full service and and I develop laid Sharky shootout I have never played Sharky shootouts okay but I knew I know that back glass I know you know the early stern so that was the that was the the confusion right right was the you know the the early third it was it was just you know what well you know who did the art for Sharky - about Yoshie okay wow that's interesting actually I did not know that yes II did that you know what you don't rap and I'm gonna clean here I had a lot of fun with the pin Quest challenges tonight okay I'm just letting you know it's pretty fun man i if you get you may have the appropriate mineralogy to become a competitive pinball player oh it's really having thought about looking for a local tournament in your area is this the road to competitive pinball Throop in quest of oh oh hey you know like I'm in the minor leagues I'm in single a rookie league here right now cuz now I got I got the eye of the tiger like I'm hoping the after-hour ends early so I can jump back on Willie might be looking for like the softball league we're like allowed to dirty and over recommended drink and play yeah that's good times hey did you record twit with Zach this week no where is it how would I know what we do it but you're you're part of the team you're part of the TWiT team you're supposed to know this stuff no they keep me like a little mushroom a little mushroom mushroom just sitting there in the dark dank memes here in these nasty attempts to make mass produce market turn shirts so I don't know anything about the scheduling I don't know anything about the release event all I'm here to do is say that not everything has the word shark is the same game that is absolutely Shark Week we have Dennis kriesel of the co-hosts of the eclectic gamers podcasts on the line right now and he also co-host this weekend pinball every other week with Zach many and he's calling in to express his I I guess his he wants to make sure that we're all on the same page you know I wouldn't it was the adamant nature of the expression that that was disconcerting I'm guessing not since you had the title wrong but yeah it's all good III will admit my mistake and I will drink to that as well Dennis if you don't mind while I have you on the line and and I think just because this would be something that some people that are here in chat would like to at least get an inside look at your role at twit and with with Zach many and you can take a minute if you need to think I can play a commercial and if you kind of know off the top of your head that's great and if you choose not to comment I understand too but what is the biggest Pro and what is the biggest con in regards to working with Zach many at twit podcast specific to the podcast the podcast I mean the biggest part I guess the biggest positive with Zack is that he's that passion you hear on the air that's actually real I agree mistake that nope not a negative is not even that passion is extremely exhausting it's awesome I mean it's just I mean it's like a weight yeah happy weight just imagine like a toddler jumping up and down on you all the time but emotionally right right I guess that would be my analogy for it just a little exhausting it totally makes sense you know what you guys you guys are great though I wanted to give you some props because you recently uploaded what I think is one of the most classic parody videos in s pertains the people in the history of pinball and if you don't mind in 60 seconds can you kind of talk the background about what happened what you uploaded and then can you let people know how they can view this video if they haven't already seen it and then we'll let you go because I know you're a busy man but I think it's important that we all get a chance to watch what I think is one of the most larious things I've seen in a long time well in terms of where you can find it it's on the eclectic gamers YouTube page I think that's what collecting underscore gamers that YouTube we have a link off of the latest collected gamers show notes though people go and load up the Facebook you'll be able to find it 60-second summary there is a entity known as a Lux which is where billionaires go to get their ideas oh and they had a top 10 expensive pinball machines in the entire world number 10 beam avatar didn't get any really any better from there so yeah Steve Bowden had shared this video I think it's a couple months old but he had shared it a couple of weeks ago on fun with bonus and I commented and very politely said it was the worst pinball video I had ever seen and someone replied and I think it was the person who created it and he said that's not was so cool why don't I make my own video I told them I wasn't cool enough to do my own video and I just sort of let it go and then I decided that well I wasn't good enough to make my own video I was good enough to make his video better so it's a comedy you know I stripped it down I cut about 40% of the content out kept the same top 10 list and I redubbed it in about six different accents and as an a lock so the best and the next P machine is Taff it's the original video used a used I'm assuming a test the speech before the voices yeah and so it had abbreviation for Adam's family so it could sing Tov dude you're talkin top I don't know I did across with with like posh Takei and Zoolander kind of how I opened my voice changed every chunk of each each one with a different take I actually recorded ten different segments and I eventually put the video oh it's awesome I am you know you know it's funny because I like I had listened to eclectic gamers podcast and then as now like more and more people are kind of like getting to know you on a little bit more of like your personal and I would say like borderline kind of snarkiness man it's it's it's so well received in the pinball community in in my opinion and not just mine but of others like you have a very important voice in pinball man we appreciate everything that you're putting out there and more more Dennis kriezel is is better for everybody else and better for pinball my opinion man so thanks for your hard work and thanks for doing what you're doing and I can't wait to see ultimately you know what goes on with you for the rest of the year cuz you're absolutely polarizing you are not only interesting but again a very good person that that I am proud to call my buddy so thanks Dennis for everything you're doing man don't put too much stock in what I say what a great way for me then to follow up but you guys did a good job you can trust that yeah thanks man I'll let you guys get back to it be good brother thanks for calling in Dennis buddy all right man I freaking love Dennis I love the guy oh my god he called me out from like like a two hour ago well you know what he does too though like if you owned reports um in a podcast he'll jump right on your Facebook page a buddy but he will articulate why you were not accurate and but everybody's better off for it but you know what I heard it out what's that Dearing you know during our conversation I figured out that I was wrong yeah yeah you were wrong man but I love that he's still called them to give me [] about it father because you know he's a Sharky shootout owner so as a Sharpie stood out like you can't just go out there and say it I'm like still like I thought I was having a stroke cuz I'm like it's not a system 11 it is what it is as we get caught up in Chad here good times always always trending up tennis game yeah no pins rule dr. John can we ask how old that Denis is he sounds so old and wise you know what he's not old but he is kind of all right there's no bits coming across her that's you you should have saved that one holy smokes all right well you want to go join bill Webb in the sleepy slumber I'll be killin last yeah I saw you kill off the last week killed off more than last week anyways let me guess all right Dennis knows his [] and I couldn't I couldn't say it anyone claiming that thank you Dave fall grin turning down his market watch Lord of Texas he defeats all except for me yeah taco pizza training up this week Dennis K Dennis's Dennis's stock has been rising consistently for a while now if I could have invested when does he hit the bubble tennis in like 2013 Dennis I love it I love it like Bitcoin see nki he is the detonator that gets eyes hi and thanks for your joining us on the flip and a stream you network with Ken and Steve Wow hello oh we got a Sam you but here who is this oh yeah I know where that was going I'm like hey how are you brother what's happening good good I want to talk to Walker and also after that benadryl dose of Dennis kriezel I had to bring oh yeah no worries man it's good times what's happening with Wonka so yeah what the southern-fried played the Wonka nice not too sure about the modes what are you guys feeling on that as far as and you've gotten tired of them do you feel like the modes are complete because I it's hard to hear what's going on at the show and you know I'm in the fizzy lifting room and all that stuff and it's kind of you know it didn't seem to as well planned out like playing Black Knight it was obvious I'm destroying this monster and I gotta hit these shot okay yeah it's it's valid I I think you'll have a different experience in a controlled environment whether it be a home or or even at location play where you can kind of take in the volume and whatnot yeah I don't have a problem deciphering between the modes so to speak now there are some games where I don't I know that I'm in a mode but I'm not satisfied with the experience within the mode if that makes any sense I don't really have that here Ethan it's funny I'm I'm looking at the see chief Johnson looking up on the screen there I don't really have that here I I do understand the concern with with audio in certain aspects of the game but I think if you're gonna update a game audio in my opinion seems like one of the easiest things to adjust during a code update yeah you know what I mean so it's like kind of like you know what mode you're in you're saying right I you've got two screens you know you're looking at that wonkavision and it's kind of telling you what's going on like there's a little bit of stop and go up there sometimes where you want it to kind of spit a ball out and it kind of hangs in there and it gives you a little presentation where you're at so I mean you'll know where you're at I would say this too like as far as because I when I'm looking at this game I'm not breaking it down as somebody that's looking for faults so I want to be clear there but as an overall pinball experience this is one of the my favorite games that I've ever played and and if I had one gripe I think at this point it would be that the audio could use polishing and it's not because I wanted to sync up with videos or anything necessarily it's just that at some times it sounds busy and it doesn't sound as polish as it could be for pinball machine if that makes any sense right what do you think yeah I agree I played probably I don't know six seven games on it and I I thought the shooting aspect of the game is incredible I mean every did it really flows like crazy and home get those shots out and you can just narrow it down but some of the modes I think it you know it's just because so much was happening yeah being at a show that I wasn't really sure what I was doing you know it was basically just trying to being a flashing light and then okay even Gobstopper multiball I wasn't quite sure you know where the jackpots were at it seemed like left for an upper I ramped and maybe back in the Gobstopper hole but I'm not I'm not 100% sure and so yeah it was just kind of I think the narrator actually does a pretty good job on telling you what you need to shoot really I'd yeah I think the but I think your best bet is to listen to the narrator I would agree too cuz he's like shoot the wonkavision shoot the left you know like so if that's your hang-up I would absolutely recommend that you play this game in a controlled environment because as far as audio cues go in a pinball machine this one stands out over a lot of machines that I've ever played yeah lines a combo but it's a combo and I think with anything else like when you get familiar with the Machine and you and you know how you're gonna qualify a kid and you know what you need to do in a mode like you don't need those audio cues where it might be almost an annoyance cuz it's like alright I already know what I'm doing I can turn those off it's just familiarity with the machine so I think I think you'll be okay if that's your hang-up or if that's where you're at I think you'll be in good shape moving forward you know in that aspect how do you actually start kid multiball it seems like you get the captive ball to qualify the kids right right there I was like so what happens yeah like to the left of the or just to the right of the the upper left flipper like you can kind of you'll see where kid multiball if you have one kid qualified or two kids qualified or three kids qualified whenever a kid is qualified and collected that that multiball shot for kid it's a flashing arrow to the left right underneath the left wire form so as long as you don't drain the ball cuz when you drain the ball you have to qualify another kid to get that going but you'll see it flashing it's just to the right of the left upper flipper and you can pop it in there and how many kids you've collected that's how many balls you'll get so for a lot of people you don't want to collect that kid multiball with like two kids collected you want to try to be more lucrative with five or sometimes if you're just looking to try to qualify a pin quest score like I was tonight you'll go ahead and you'll activate that with like you know one or two kids so it's there and there's a flashing insert and once you see it there in fact are you watching this dream right now yeah okay I'm literally gonna put my headphones down for a second I'm gonna point today all right right there all right so that's I don't know how delayed we are but your kid multi bones there there's a magnet it will catch the ball and it will hold it to let you know that kid multiball starting it releases it off that left flipper and then depending on how many kids you've collected qualified you you know that's gonna be how many balls you have so it's a good deal oh you know what you know what sucks is I didn't even have the freaking camera on there okay all right so hold on I'm gonna switch over again me and I'm sorry and you know what I have to do go ahead get alright hold on a second here I'm gonna point it out again okay yeah all right it's always got the UH it's got the mic on over there I don't think I'm like sound so he's saying just catch it yeah okay yeah sorry for for amateur hour there on that one that was my bed no it's perfect yeah well thanks guys for everything you're doing man it's awesome love watching it thanks for supporting stream thanks for calling in do us a favor if you get a chance and and you get on another wonka and it's in like a more of a controlled environment or at least you can hear the audio would you mind either coming back in chat or calling us back and let us know if it is sufficient for you as far as directing you in the modes because I think they have pretty good feedback actually yeah I would love to because I mean I'm a big wall or fan anyway and I know I really you know I just I loved the shots I mean it's if you like Twilight Zone if you like it is a great slowing game in yeah I mean it really shoots better than then that you know TV or like I've got a whirlwind as well right now and you know that side flipper shot up that back ramp is just super it's easy to it's really not that hard to hit and it's really satisfying to design pop it up there and then you don't know if it's gonna drop off and hit that magnet or what so yeah I do want to play it some more I'm not sure where I'm gonna catch one in a controlled environment but I'm looking forward to it you ever gonna st. Charles Illinois area st. Charles Illinois happy to have you come on Locker so we're you call me where you at North Carolina okay yeah no I'm just gonna be walking as in North Carolina I'm pretty sure so that's a bar owner or the the Patriot owner hey yeah turn this walk out for me got it guys let's get back to it hey thanks man thanks for calling in I appreciate it yeah good times good time so yeah I mean the subtle nuances of a game like can make a big difference that's why I don't like judging a game from a pinball show and stream like we are here and all you you just you got to play the game and it's got to be in an environment in which you're gonna consistently play the game as we get caught up in chat I collect the gamers linked to the originals in the video description Oh Dennis can you link here I don't even know if you can please do that jabber says if I'm in st. Charles can I come on and lurk in the background will you have an ax in your hand yeah densive background check we can see what's going on we're good then links are disabled I'm sorry man I don't know how to even enable links Oh flip it on pinball it's got a link there it is I would love to believe you Ling live but the thing is like I think it's like a seven or eight if I remember like seven or eight minutes long and I don't want to have that long of a segment so to speak on the live Colin time well you know I can play a little bit of it here oh you know let's do this maybe next week I can play it but I can I can like have it live like with the video that'd be cool you know what I mean yeah because then I can add another media source if you don't mind we're good to go so we're gonna wrap this up here in a few more minutes we've got another caller or two we'll go ahead and take that again I'm Kent Cromwell from the special when lit pinball podcast my co-host bill Webb has left the building he's got to wake up a little bit early for work tomorrow but guess what we got Steve Beatty here and we're in special with Studio B B's for BT I'm flipping out streaming network brought to you by Zack inacol many the proud owners of flipping on pinball distributorship so if you're on the fence about a distributor look no further because you found your place to go home you can go ahead and you can get a hold of Zach many you can actually you can get a here in chat you can give him a call it's uh it's good times yeah yeah you're right thirsty yeah you know you just cashed out the magic bottle or whatever that was I think that was the woodford that did it a little bit okay guys great show guys yeah thanks man Kazi thank you so much looking forward to working with you here and yes you kill it so it was good times BTW still working on the moon man uh yeah Moon cnk deep inside PD never calls did we get a damn brick shot even no nope inside PD and no brick shot Hebert was here though paper was in chat he did not brick shot us tonight so the thing with the brick shot is if it's every single week it loses its effectiveness yeah it's got to come when he's got something to legitimately bicha but that was classic though can't we just a random brick shot just to be a brick shot three four we so Berto drink Juan dude thank you so much thanks for being here Berto you're the guy and you know what good let please let us know when you're streaming okay and again you know how to get a hold of me let me know when you're streaming I'd love to try to check out your stream and especially if it's walk I'd love to see your thoughts on the game why would avatar be so expensive where was cañedo this week I don't know I think cañedo is traveling with work that's what I heard on his show so I don't know you know what it is to it like there's nobody important for cañedo to talk to at this point because the staffs not here so we got it we got to pull up the the background try to be we're gonna be at cache so hey don't forget folks about your your flipping out pinball with your s culeros yeah so the Escalera is like do the immobilise tell you what pinball dolly right you could almost use one in your basement can't use one of my basement I know no no only because I've got two landings and in the escalator with the pinball machine it's too big to make the T Escalera is great if you have a straight shot maybe even a 90 even a 90 degrees with respect yeah you know all wide landing yeah yeah the escalator save your backs you know and look into the escalator and you can get those a flippin optimal to save your body yeah yeah so BT plug-in escalators and you want to plug tonight no I just want to say sq save your body Steve's having a good time here tonight now flipping up pinball Network yeah that guy might be time to to end this bad boy head unless we get a last-minute caller we can take one more especially when BT save your BT we've got some recognition interests a lot of BD shares BT small BB D with the bits for beetee's we're streaming out right now at the three hour 35 minute mark 3 336 so it's it's been an eventful night it's been fun let's get rid of some thank yous right so first and foremost thank everybody in chat I've got the major contributors bits wise pin quest pinball with is that is that five thousand bits huge pin stadium twenty six hundred and sixteen bits effing Slayer 2290 bits guys top three we can continue to go down this list pirate captain with a thousand bits huge cos jumps in with over five hundred bits all the in Russian fan 1974 over five hundred bits loser kid taco pizza wombat pinball Lord of the Ring breath you don't owe taco pizza climbing the ranks just super super nice taco thank you buddy baby biz Cheers okay yeah it's always time it's always good times but he does I want to thank everybody for not only supporting the show but but donating your time and your effort into spending it with us each and every Monday it means a lot to us and I hope it means a lot to you I want to go ahead I want to thank Neil from pin Quest pin Quest offers a different dynamic for us for streaming where we can take it seriously on a different level we're able to kind of work towards goals that we normally wouldn't work towards and he's been generous to compensate us for our efforts so I totally appreciate that Thank You Neil Scott up in stadiums got caught in tonight I love hearing from Scott Jordan yeah super nice guy super nice product to combine those two together is rarity these days and the guys genuine in the products effective so thank you so much I die also I want to thank you Steve for allowing us to be here in a special one with Studio B B is for BD thank you so much that a host here for the last couple weeks and if you don't mind we might infringe on you for one more week or two as we're kind of here thank you for just putting up with our stuff and jumping in when Sleeping Beauty's got to leave and that leads me to bill Webb always good that always good to be with Bill Webb and he had to leave a little bit early tonight so no big deal but you know thank you Bill and then finally finally guys if you don't mind I want to thank the two individuals that make all of this possible and and that's gonna be Zack Nicole many the owners of flipping out pinball you know Zack from a lot of different aspects of pinball whether it be straight down the middle of pinball show that a co-host Oh a greg bone or Fitz twit this weekend pinball podcast where he co-hosts with Dennis kriezel or I me an Zacks everywhere Ryan's a cos ever wheeze thrown his head into the ring in pinball tribute or [] if you're looking for a new pinball machine please if you do not have a distributor you need to reach out to Zack because this gentleman is not only gonna help you he's gonna hold your hand through the purchasing experience to make it positive I guarantee that we've already bought games from Zack and you know all stuff aside here he's a genuine dude so thank you Sam so Thank You Nicole many we're gonna end this up tonight with just with those thank you guys it's fun as always job or thanks for being here Dave fall Guren thanks for being here flipping out pinball my guys thanks for being here pin quest thanks for being here everybody that's here please do us a favor come back next week okay come back in relax talk some pinball and I think we'll have some stuff to talk about next week because I think we're gonna have another reveal from another firm stern pinball this week so it'll make chat interesting we can go ahead and dissect it dissect the release so for Bill Webb and Steve Beatty I am Ken Cromwell have a good afternoon good evening and don't forget to take some time out of your day and play some pinball so long everyone
Slash has announced a new game coming (source appears to be from Galloping Ghosts arcade operator Doc)
low confidence · Ken: 'there's a game coming so yeah it looks like it that's pretty cool yeah' with very uncertain language; appears to be speculation
Ken first entered pinball collecting 12 years ago with Earthshaker as his first machine
high confidence · Ken direct statement: 'I've been collecting for I want to say twelve twelve years maybe oh and my first game was Earthshaker'
Special When Lit podcast is organizing a pinball media gathering at Chicagoland Pinball Expo (October) for content creators
high confidence · Ken announcement: 'at pinball Expo this year Chicagoland pinball Expo in October we're doing something a little bit different and it's gonna involve pinball media'
Ken Cromwell@ 33:49 — Announces Special When Lit's media initiative at Expo; open call for podcast/streaming/YouTube creators
medium · Ken: 'they manufactured the games and they they held them because they weren't receiving payment from Dutch pinball so the games that were supposed to go to those early achievers are now being resold in order for Dutch pinball to try to pay up'
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design_innovation: Discussion of Pin Stadium LED lighting as essential aftermarket solution for Willy Wonka's insufficient factory lighting design; suggests design/production constraint or cost reduction trade-off
medium · Ken: 'when you get the pin stadiums guys you don't have to plug them in and juice them up to a hundred percent' and 'maybe it's not as important because there are aftermarket options for you to increase'
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market_signal: Big Lebowski secondary market pricing inflated; new stock resells for $12,500 at distributor, speculation of $20k+ on eBay; 2-year inventory delay increasing scarcity perception
medium · Jabbers: '$12,500 if if you were to get one from coin taker but they're all spoken for'; speculation: 'some crazy person will have it on eBay for twenty you see him over thirty thousand dollars'
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content_signal: Pin Stadium sponsorship critical to stream visual quality and game presentation; operators fine-tuning LED brightness (30-40% when streaming vs higher for venue play)
high · Ken: 'when I'm not streaming I'm in the 30s like 32 33' and 'you don't have to plug them in and juice them up to a hundred percent on on everything you dial the game in how you want it'
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venue_signal: Galloping Ghosts Arcade (operator Doc) identified as largest arcade in US with 80+ games; involved in Monday mystery game announcements; growing presence in pinball community
medium · Ken: 'galloping ghosts arcade gotcha Oh galloping ghosts yeah yeah okay 40 whoa' and 'Doc's taken out over there off of Ogden Avenue' and 'brought like 80 arcade games to Expo'
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rumor_hype: Unconfirmed rumor that Slash has announced new pinball game (possibly from Galloping Ghosts operator Doc); very low confidence due to vague sourcing
low · Ken: 'there's a game coming so yeah it looks like it that's pretty cool yeah' with minimal elaboration; context suggests speculation rather than confirmation
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gameplay_signal: Willy Wonka exhibits noticeable stop-and-go flow during gameplay; players note difficulty with left lane control and Gobstopper multiball skill shots; requires multiple games to master
high · Ken: 'there is some noticeable stop one go when he wants that the house' and discussion of left flipper to Gobstopper multiball complexity; Ken: 'it takes me like eight games or like four or five pops before I settle into what I'm doing here'
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licensing_signal: Discussion of Dennis merchandise/swag licensing requirements; cannot produce Dennis-branded items without explicit approval due to likeness/IP rights
medium · Ken: 'Zack does not have the license for the Dennis shirt' and 'you cannot make you cannot make money or offer somebody else's likeness with other permission so there's gonna be some contractual things'