Underneath, we find a maze of wires and light bulbs. But one thing you should be always careful of is, for goodness sakes, don't drop the pla- Ow! Oh! Ah! Ah! Ah. I'm here with Todd Tucky from TNT Amusements. This is an exciting moment. You're like the arcade hero for me. I'm a hero! You are. I don't know exactly the roots of how you got started in the business. What started all this? I guess I was 15 years old. I found a pinball machine cheap and I bought it. It's like $100, scraped together the money. We had a lot of fun playing it and I kind of tinkered with it. But I never thought it'd be like a hobby. From that point on, I would try to buy and sell pinball machines over the years. I had a buddy at the time. We bought a group of games together from a vendor that closed down. All mechanical stuff, obviously. Because we're looking back to the early 70s. And it was older mechanical pins. But it was never going to be like a true, like, going in business. I had no interest, really, in operating them. But my aunt and uncle bought a boat dock. They wanted a game room. So I started buying games for them, for their game room. And that's how I learned how to fix this crap. Oh, I said crap. So what were you doing it out of, like, your house? Out of my house. Everything was out of my house. I started selling games retail. Well, I became TNT Services. That's the registered name in, I think, 1977. And then TNT Amusement started in 79. And I bought my first brand new games to operate. But then I got a partner in 81. And we were doing okay. And then all of a sudden the bottom dropped out. So we were on the verge. We were in big trouble. In 1984, I guess around June or July, he said, let's try to sell some of this crap. Well, nobody was buying any games. Nobody wanted them. So I said, let me, I live on a busy street. So let me put some games out front of my house. Okay. And I put down a big sign on top, $100 and up. And that's what started game sales. And we priced stuff this way. It was as easy as could be. Black and white games were to And color started at 175 which was Tempus or Missile Command Tempest was my next level and Eliminator How much was a Tempest back then? Two and a quarter. Now, remember, we weren't rebuilding them. We wiped off the screens, we made sure we plugged them in. We weren't even checking ground plugs. If it worked, it went out. But remember, we're looking at equipment that was new only a few years before. and my cheapest pinball at the time was $3.50. I remember Jungle Lord, because it had two levels, we sold that for $5.50. But the old prices, and here's the best part, vendors were dropping off truckloads to my driveway, and I paid $25 if it was black and white, and I paid them $100 to $150 if the game was color. And it was amazing. And they wanted them out, because they were paying rent, and nobody wanted to play Space Invaders for coins. anymore. They didn't want to play Starcastle or Ripple. All black and white games I bought for $25 each. You dumped them for $100. Did you in your mind think that fast forward, that first of all, you'd still be doing this today? No, of course not. Because this business has evolved. I was selling games and people have them in their basement and have some fun. But the idea of having a full-blown game room was not there yet. People had one or two games and I put them in rec rooms. I remember delivering one or two in a bedroom. But nobody was thinking full-scale games. But now the retro arcades are opening everywhere. And people want to play this old stuff. Pinball too. They want to play video and pinball. And they want to pay it a flat rate to play it. You know, they're kind of dumb in a way because if they were putting a quarter or 50 cents in, they would spend less money. But They pay $10, $15, $20 for an hour all day or whatever. They're going to play their favorite game. They're going to play Ms. Pac-Man for 15 minutes. You're not going to make any money in a quarter. But they perceive it as a good value. They can do anything they want in this room. I pioneered the flat rate arcade. I did. And when I opened up my birthday party rooms in 1987, it was a flat rate. Play anything you want have your party and it private And I get a chance to sample all the food Chuck E Cheese was doing it but they had a lot of redemption stuff We were just free play And you still do that party room to this day. To this day, we've done over 25,000 parties. Gosh. Honest to God, we were doing about 900 a year up until COVID. And the COVID kind of killed, they cut our cutback. But we're starting to get people back again. But people liked the idea of flat rate. And now children are coming to TMT with their parents, and their parents were children when they were there. I can't tell you. I just did a bachelor party. All 12 guys were there as kids. Oh, my gosh. And they're in the same room. And my joke is we haven't changed anything. We haven't even cleaned the place. And it's still the same place. So it's all old-fashioned, and it's really nice. It worked out well. What do you think the future is for this business? Oh, that's easy. It is? That's an easy one? Are you kidding? This business is exploding. The arcade one-ups. Everybody says, oh, you hate the arcade one-ups. No, I don't hate the... The arcade one-ups has created brand new demand for arcades. People have three or four arcade one-ups in their house. They're still going to the arcade. Yeah, yeah. And they still want the full-size real game. Oh, no, no, no. Arcade one-ups has been wonderful. They're introducing kids to pinball. An arcade one-off pinball machine is $700 or $800. People play it. They want the real thing. They want the real thing, yeah. Oh, God, no. This business is exploding. We're in the verge. Look at the turnout here. I know. This is crazy. It's crazy. You're part of it. You are part of a growing, wonderful, new business for everybody. All the arcades are opening. Look at all the places opening. And it's amazing. how many arcades, flat rate arcades, are opening all over the country, all over the world. Are you actually, are these people opening up these arcades coming to you for machines, or are they getting them elsewhere? I wish they were. No, you know what? You have to be smart. You have to buy the pieces right. People are buying bulk deals. They'll buy somebody's game room out in their house. But if you open up one, please open. You not hurting my feelings but you got to have a technician to fix them Do not keep broken games in your place If something breaks roll it out and put another one in Because if they see a lot of dark screens, the word's going to get out. So keep your arcades popular. I'd love it if you bought from me. I do have bargain basements, you know. So I sell working games bargain basements. I have stopped taking restorations because I'm backlogged until spring. Wow. So the sales are good. That means business is up. That's great. And my bargain basements mean we don't do much to them. We bring them in from a warehouse or from a home sale and then we get rid of them. So that's hard. My sales and my, I guess, restorations, the restorations are dropping because they take more time, and I can't turn over as quick as I can something I don't have to fully restore. So, it sounds like the future is bright for arcade gaming and pinball. Easy. That's easy to see. You just open up your eyes like this. Doesn't he have a great channel? I wish we had more time, but they're throwing us off the stage. I know. I appreciate you doing this. I appreciate what you do and how you contribute to this community. It's awesome. This whole event, I was already fired up, I'm more fired up now. TNT plays a huge role in making sure these games keep continuing on. They have new life. Keep the enthusiasm up. We need enthusiastic players, collectors, and all in general. And our kids are the future. The kids are going to keep this alive. So you bring your kids out, you show them how to play a game, you teach them. and then they will get involved and interested in playing a real game rather than sitting in the house doing this with these little controls. Play with a big control. He wants to. Look at how Ralph has changed. He's moved into the arcade industry here. Thanks, buddy. Thank you, sir. Thanks so much, Jeff. Adios. That's it.