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🔴LIVE - Winchester Mystery House Pinball by Barrels of Fun with Karl DeAngelo

Flip n Out Pinball (Live Streams)·video·2h 1m·analyzed·Nov 27, 2025
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TL;DR

Karl DeAngelo live streams Winchester Mystery House, explaining rules and design philosophy.

Summary

Karl DeAngelo joins a live stream playthrough of Winchester Mystery House pinball by Barrels of Fun, providing detailed rules explanations and design insights. The discussion covers complex game mechanics including room progression, multiball modes, spirit-based scoring systems, and the newly-updated code. Karl shares design philosophy around accessibility (sprint-to-room option for casual players) and discusses mechanical features like the basement mode with its timed scare jumps.

Key Claims

  • Winchester Mystery House pinball includes a sprint-to-room feature allowing players to skip point-building mechanics and go straight to mode exploration

    high confidence · Karl explaining: 'So that's why that was in there. So if you didn't really care about points, you could just run to the room and play the room and experience the modes and not have to worry about all that point nonsense.'

  • The basement mode features a recurring jump-scare mechanic that occurs every 16 beats and follows a pattern: left, right, spinner, then lunges at player

    high confidence · Karl: 'It's a time, yeah. So it's always going to be every 16 beats.' and 'left, right, spinner, and then after you see it in the spinner, that's when it's going to come at you.'

  • Eric Pricky (code developer) sent a new code update with pre-set values including 12 spider webs, suggesting testing

    high confidence · Host: 'this is brand new code that Eric just sent over' and 'So you're starting with 12 webs. This is brand new code since we today.'

  • The game features a multiball mechanic where spirits steal player points during multiplier phases and must be collected at a specific shot to claim the jackpot

    high confidence · Karl: 'when you're in a multiplier, the 2X or the 3X, the spirits are stealing your score. You're not getting any of your score. It's just they're collecting everything, and then after the time expires, you've got a limited amount of time to collect it at the spider web to get the spirit jackpot.'

  • Karl DeAngelo's favorite strategy on Winchester is to reach the Venetian room and progress to the daisy bedroom without starting any modes to maximize mode values

    high confidence · Karl: 'My favorite thing right now to do is start the Venetian and work my way all the way to the daisy bedroom without starting a mode so that I've got my mode value ultra high'

Notable Quotes

  • “So if you didn't really care about points, you could just run to the room and play the room and experience the modes and not have to worry about all that point nonsense.”

    Karl DeAngelo@ 2:53 — Explains design philosophy of accessibility feature for casual vs. competitive players

  • “My favorite thing right now to do is start the Venetian and work my way all the way to the daisy bedroom without starting a mode so that I've got my mode value ultra high”

    Karl DeAngelo@ 29:26 — Reveals advanced competitive strategy for maximizing scoring through deferred mode starts

  • “It's a time, yeah. So it's always going to be every 16 beats.”

    Karl DeAngelo@ 30:50 — Confirms mechanical consistency of basement mode scare mechanic

  • “when you're in a multiplier, the 2X or the 3X, the spirits are stealing your score. You're not getting any of your score.”

    Karl DeAngelo@ 15:58 — Core risk-reward mechanic explanation for multiball scoring system

  • “I have got to beat the basement mode one time.”

    Host (Jared implied)@ 32:32 — Demonstrates personal investment in completing challenging modes; implies basement is legitimate end-game goal

Entities

Karl DeAngelopersonWinchester Mystery HousegameBarrels of FuncompanyEric PrickypersonBrad AlbrightpersonFlip n Out PinballorganizationJaredpersonTravisperson

Signals

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    community_signal: Karl DeAngelo provides detailed design commentary and insider explanations during live gameplay, demonstrating high-quality designer collaboration with streaming platform

    high · Extensive rules explanations, mechanical design rationales, and developer insights shared throughout stream with named collaborators (Eric, Brad, Travis) acknowledged

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Hosts acknowledge game complexity initially but express appreciation for logical progression and mechanical coherence; one host explicitly states goal to beat basement mode

    high · Host: 'there is logic to it like it's not it's not impossible' and 'I have got to beat the basement mode one time.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Winchester intentionally designed with dual-path accessibility: sprint-to-room for casual/narrative-focused players vs. complex scoring systems for competitive players

    high · Karl: 'So if you didn't really care about points, you could just run to the room and play the room and experience the modes and not have to worry about all that point nonsense.'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Barrels of Fun demonstrates collaborative development team including designer (Karl), artist (Brad), mechanical engineer (Travis), and code developer (Eric)

    high · All team members credited by name during stream; active communication about code updates and mechanical issues

  • ?

    product_strategy: Winchester emphasizes narrative progression through room system with choice mechanic (keys) allowing multiple routes and replay value variations

Transcript

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0:00
Thank you. Hello. Carl's a pro. Hello, everyone. We're good. We are good. Dude, tonight's going to be another fun one. Tonight's going to be another fun one for a lot of reasons. First off, happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving. If you're watching this after the fact, hopefully you ate plenty of food and zero calories. You know, calories don't count on Thanksgiving. Just shove it all in. Hopefully you got a good nap and hopefully you had some family time or some friend time. But happy Thanksgiving. And, yeah, tonight's going to be a fun one. Tonight's going to be a fun one. We are playing some more Winchester. But the reason it's going to be real fun is this guy right here. Hopefully that's not a new face. But the Carl D'Angelo is here. Carl, thank you so much for joining. Oh, thank you. Yes. Can everybody hear Carl? Go ahead and talk, Carl. Can you hear me? Yes. I'm seeing everybody should be able to hear you. If you don't know who Carl is, where have you been? Check out IU Pinball. IU Pinball on YouTube. Check out IU Pinball on Twitch.
1:50
He, honestly, Carl, there's, I would give you credit for the vast majority of this streaming setup. you've answered questions from me for years. So you have truly empowered other people to do this at the same level or try to match your level of quality. He's also better at pinball than we are. He's better at a lot. At a considerable margin. Yes. So I know, Carl, this might be painful for you tonight to see our level of play. But bear with us because we're into it ourselves. It's going to be fun, won't it? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be fun. There'll be drains, but it'll be fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all good. Drains are good. Well, let's just ask this, Carl. What was your takeaway from last week watching the two of us stumble our way through your game? It was good to watch and fun to watch. It was nice seeing that generally everything worked how I intended and that the whole run to the room thing was actually utilized. You know, sprint to the room as you were doing every time. Yeah. So that's why that was in there. So if you didn't really care about points, you could just run to the room and play the room and experience the modes and not have to worry about all that point nonsense. Love it. Who needs points? I, hey, I, as soon as he said it and I, like, pieced it together, I'm like, oh, this is just for points. Carl did challenge me this week to not run to rooms. So you can run all day. I'm running all day. This guy right here, Brad Albright, is in chat. Brad Albright did all the art on this game. So give Brad some love. Amazing art package. Fantastic stuff. This guy right here, Travis, here in chat, he's a mechanical engineer for Barrels of Fun, so give him some love as well. I wouldn't be surprised if DM8 of NS ends up in chat or Jeff. So if you see Dirty Paul. David's on vacation.
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high · Karl explaining keys system allows skipping rooms, room-specific mechanics, and strategic mode sequencing to maximize scoring

  • ?

    product_concern: Multiball mode experienced technical issue where second ball failed to appear; Eric (code developer) mentioned in chat to address; suggests ongoing code refinement

    medium · Host: 'Where are my other balls? This should be a MaltiBall.' Later: 'Eric, right there. Carl, did you? Did you? Tax Eric.'

    • 3:37
    No, no, no, David. That's totally fine. Totally fine. Well, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's dive in tonight. Let's have a good time. Jared, I'm going to let you go first. Winchester.
    3:49
    All right. We're going to get this music loud because it's the best. Go ahead, Jerry. Okay. I'll ask the question while Jerry's doing it. We've got a skill shot here that we have completely ignored. Yeah, sure did. Sure did, yeah. So I'll try to show it when I go.
    4:10
    I see Call Spirits, Light Mystery, Advance 13, and then at one point all three are lit. What do you get when all three are lit? You just get the points that are listed there. Okay. So you get the points if you get the single drop for the one that's lit at the specific time, or if you get all three points by itself. Okay. But if you, like, let's say if I hit Call Spirits, what does that do? Does it call Spirits, I assume? That will light a lock. Yeah, that's as if you had, you know, hind instrument target hit the capital ball for Call Spirits, it'll drop the inline drop target. Okay. It opens those lanes and advanced your team gives you three items on each. Okay, and that's a whole other thing that we have not really done. Is it fully in the game yet, this 13? Yes. Okay. So we're talking about this up here where I see there's targets, loot, combos, summons, and webs. And you're saying once you get 13 of each, there's a mode there of some sort? Yeah, so we all have individual modes whenever we get 13 of each, and it looks like you've got 12 webs already somehow. So this is a new code that Eric just sent over. I wonder if he was testing something with the webs. So you're going to get a lot of spider web frenzy, I bet, this stream. Sounds good. Oh, yeah, once you get one to 13, the right orbit lights to start that, and that will start a little side quest mode. Once I get everything. And then we'll just use all five of those and we get to another mode once we're done in the game. Let's see if you're right about what it, yeah. So we're starting with 12 webs. This is brand new code since we today. So make sure if you see Eric Pricky in chat, we can give him a hard time. But I'll take it. I'll take the help. Okay. So you're saying, this is what we're talking about right here. So the middle one is light mystery. What will that get me? So look at the screen. You'll see what the awards are. Because the words will change based on what you've done in the game. So, like, if you already have open spell, that would change to add five million to your next mode. Okay. So it's scrolling on. I should read. I should read more. Okay.
    6:23
    What I've been doing is doing that. I've been immediately using my keys because I'm obsessed with the basement mode.
    6:32
    So that is, on the days I've been playing by myself, that is what I'm all about, the basement. So hopefully we see the basement a good bit soon.
    6:42
    If I can, you know, hit the shot. Or we'll just do that instead. So the skill shot can happen at any moment, right?
    6:58
    Only on initial play. Okay, so after a lock, can I do it? No, they don't show up there. Okay. Because it'll shoot out of the plunge. Okay. And at this point, I see I only have one drop target left, the light. What happens when I clear the drops?
    7:19
    Then you'll get whatever award it's linking. So that's 13. So it will give you one towards each 13th. Gotcha. For finishing the drop bank at that. This is what we were not showing off last week. Right now I'm currently in the process of walking towards the basement. That's why all the shots were lit white. But we've run out of time. So now, at this point, I will have a green shot lit to actually get me to the basement. Now, if you had a key, you could use that key at this moment to go to a different room. Oh, you don't even have to play it? You don't even have to play it. No, you can move on to the next room if you had a key. And that would increase your shot value if you're caring about points. Could I come back and play basement? Because I never played it? Yeah, you can come back later. Oh.
    8:03
    All right, let's play the basement. Um, this mode, man, let's make sure it's nice and dark. This mode is something else.
    8:14
    Sorry, scare alert. You forgot, dude? No, I didn't. I was just letting you in on that now. Okay. Um, let's go. Come on.
    8:26
    It's about to do it again. dude it's it's like frustratingly long the camera and which is awesome but it's also like how have you not taken a picture yet well you hear the bolt break so we're thinking yeah exactly that was the idea behind it was it was it was the yeah yeah the old where you have to flip out the light bulb every time I'm on the flash. Come on, Joel. Know your photography. It's going to be up there.
    9:00
    So I always get... I've gotten further playing this by myself than I did Oh, God. So that mode, for people that don't know, it's an amazing mode.
    9:13
    That mode, so it's this loop first, and then you go left ramp, and then you go right shot, and then it's that shot, right? Yeah, and as the spinner spins, it'll light a random target, or wherever it lands. So I remember getting to a target, and then after you get a target, I think I got one shot further than that. But what's amazing is you're what? You're tripping the breaker? Is that the thought? Yeah, you're trying to get the fuses back on. And every time you do it, a third of the lights come on. The first time I got a fuse turned on, and a third of the playfield lights up. I'm like, oh, what a cool mode. What a cool, cool mode.
    10:00
    Now, something you may have not noticed is you hit the help target at the very beginning. The help target? The help target. It's above the right inlay.
    10:09
    So that target is like a smart bomb. Right here? Right there, yeah. So most of the time the ball will just ricochet into it at some point. And when you hit the help target, it calls a spirit from the call room. Okay. So you'll see the call room turns blue, and then there's a path. You'll see the spirit come down the path to the room you're at. And once it reaches the room, that's when it spots the shot.
    10:30
    Interesting. It starts where? So you get it once per mode. Huh. But it's coming out of which room, you said? The call room at the very top of the. Oh, so it's walking its way down, and then it will give you progression on a shot. So, yeah, and depending on the distance, that's how long it will take to actually spot the shot. That explains a lot because I've been in that mode before, and I thought I was missing the shot enough that it just moved to another shot. But I'm assuming it, no, it just gave me the shot. Somebody asked me what's on my shirt. This is a Haunted Mansion shirt from, like, a Disney Haunted Mansion shirt.
    11:08
    It's the closest thing I could get. There you go. Roosevelt Township started their Winchester line. No, there's no Winchester line. Well, the Haunted Mansion was based on the Winchester Mystery House. Ah. Yes.
    11:19
    I'm not going to lie, Carl, I went on a bit of a deep dive on the Windshut Termitory House. Didn't know anything about it. There's so much interesting information about this. It's a fascinating story. And then you have all the, you know, you really dive into it. You've got, like, ghost hunters and, you know, every one of them just about has done nights in the house and watched that stuff. It's a lot. Yeah. Well, and then, you know, it led me to an hour and a half documentary on just Winchester for that.
    11:52
    So, which, that's fascinating, too. So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on around this theme.
    11:59
    Probably that Wikipedia website got hit a lot when the pinball nerds found out this was the theme. All right, this is another fun one, and I think this move does such a great job. You just hit that target, so you can see the blue, and you just hit the twin dining rooms and spotted that first shot. I didn't realize that. I should notice the ball safe.
    12:21
    I saw it. Okay. All right, so now I've got to get over there, which I can't backhand. Nope. So, annunciator. Annunciator. That target, I hit it a lot. Is that good? Yes. Bad? What does that mean? So that will light a spirit on a shot. So when you hit it, it should flash one of the arrows. And then that will add to your summons count on the 13th. Well, if you hit that shot. Every time you hit it, it'll move the spirit to a different shot. Is that the light blue shots? Those are the spirit shots? Okay.
    13:04
    No, no, sorry, the light green. So right now it's on the right ramp. Oh, okay. So the light blue right now That's the mode shot Which unfortunately I gotta get to my left slipper Which I'm assuming You Carl just hit the left ramp Is that normally what I do?
    13:25
    That's what you suggest Can't backhand immediately tries to backhand I know right? I just want to prove my point you know So what are the yellow shots right now? So that's your spider web frenzy That you just started because you got 13 spider webs. Well, you got the one. Eric spotted these as well.
    13:42
    Thanks, Eric. Come on, dude. It's a small 30-second mode or 45-second mode, I think it is. There it is.
    13:52
    And you can see the timer in the 13th section. So it's basically shoot the yellow shots to get points for that. And you can see the timer on the apron, too. It's just so cool. Right, and in different colors, too, depending on what the timer is. I think I just got it, yeah. Yeah, you got one web transition. You should see the totals soon. Right on the end. They're both in at the same time.
    14:17
    Okay, so I have failed that mode. Oh! Yeah, I just noticed the web... Oh, no, you extended the timer. I'm sorry. You still have 14, 15 seconds left on the spider web transition. Oh, on the spider web transition. Let us just shoot the magnet as many times for points. And those points will be used later on for the wizard mode. I have to play all five of the 13s.
    14:41
    Wizard mode. Let's be real, Carl. Come on. I mean, that's some points right there. There you go. Okay.
    14:53
    I have spelled open, so that... Something's still counting down. Is it a... Oh, it's... Yeah, explain that. You're multiplying right now. Yeah.
    15:05
    Can you... How do I collect that? On the spider web? The right orbit would be. But right now you want to shoot the center since you started your wheelbarrow. Oh, I thought I had to collect my... You do. You'll lose those three million points. But your wheelbarrow hurry up would be more valuable at that point. If you had more points in the... I'll find it. If you had more points in the spider web, I would have said shoot that. Okay. But that hurry up would have been... It would have given you more points and started that multi-ball for you. So maybe just explain that in general. I understand there are times where the spirits are holding onto my points. What starts that part of the game? So the spinner, when it's lit, builds your spirit meter, which you can see on the right-hand side of the screen. And when you get to 15 seconds, it lights the X target, so the key drops. Okay, yes, this little tiny target right there. Right, exactly. So once you hit that, it all starts the 2X play field. And whenever you're in a multiplier, the 2X or the 3X, the spirits are stealing your score. You're not getting any of your score. It's just they're collecting everything, and then after the time expires, you've got a limited amount of time to collect it at the spider web to get the spirit jackpot. So it's the ultimate risk-reward of do I want to play this mode and potentially earn nothing, or if I collect it in time, I can get double. Exactly. Or triple. So if you hit the X target one more time while it's running, you'll get an extra 15 seconds and bump it to 3X. Wow. Yeah. I've lost many hundreds of million points. Because you didn't reflect. I missed that right orbit for whatever reason. Yeah, you just lose it. It's all gone.
    16:44
    Nice. Well, that mode's already over. We'll explain it when we play it later. All right. Cheers, multiball.
    16:56
    I feel like the... I feel like the vocals are quieter this way. Okay, so what is his priority? He should be a multi-bar now. There he goes.
    17:17
    What is his priority right now? Blue shots or the spinner? Blue shots on the jackpot. After you've gotten those, you should add more. Or as you hit these targets, you'll see them blink.
    17:29
    And once they're blinking, it should light the captain ball on the left to bring more spirits in to add more jackpots. That's the idea. You can have five jackpots in the place that it wants.
    17:39
    So shoot the blue shots to build more, or shoot those targets and the captain ball to add more. So the spinner, was that part of that? I mean, I see the spinner's blinking yellow. Is that part of the multiball, or that's just something else going on? That's just, that's lit now to build the spirit meter for the multiple time. And there's also a super spinner, there's a spirit spinner we call it, when you're at 30 seconds, if you shoot the spinner it'll be blinking yellow and green I think it is. And then that'll start a, like a super spinner round where you just hit the spinner for a lot of points. You know, another one of those little side quest ones.
    18:23
    Come on, come on, come on. Yeah, I may have to look at my, because I just updated the thing, but I feel like the announcer's voice is quieter than the sound effects of the game. Yeah, it might just need to be bumped back up in the settings.
    18:39
    And they're all individually controllable. Why does Jared now have a pinball hat? Because he, Jared does what he wants. That's it.
    18:50
    Nice. and either one, but it's a horseshoe, so whichever shot you hit, it's coming back at you. Or just right between them. The music notes and all the musical instruments, that's something... Is there, besides just hitting them for 13, what's the thought with all the musical instruments? So the instruments, the thought is you... It lights the captive ball, and that's what you use to call the spirits. So you're playing an instrument to call them for the sounds. So you get an instrument target that lights the captive ball, green to light your lock. If you're on your first multiball, it'll light all the locks and drop the inlines. If you're on the second one, it gets a little harder. You know, it just lights the lock. It doesn't drop the inlines. You have to actually get behind them. Okay. Okay. I didn't realize that. Because, like, I mean, you always look at the flashing lights. So, just to review, I know the light blue shot, that's basically to light my wheelbarrow multiball, where I'm just going to feed down, and then I'm going to have to hurry up up the middle. And then I see this one musical target is blinking at me. So what does that mean compared to that musical instrument that's solid?
    19:58
    The solid one means you've used that for a lock already. The blinking one would be the active one. Okay, that's why a lock is active to be lit. Okay. And then you're saying... Right now you're in ball three, so they should be down. They are down.
    20:12
    Cool. Exactly. But in earlier balls, you'd have the call spirits have the ball lit so you could hit it. So it's light and drop it down. You got that skill shot. Thanks, boss man.
    20:27
    Okay, right up the middle. So, not that it's bad, but people are wondering, Carl, when you're going to stream this thing.
    20:34
    When my game comes in. He could stream a Whitewood right now. I'll watch that. That looks a little different.
    20:45
    Okay, this mode, wheelbarrow. This is the first time we've seen this tonight. Should I be focusing on blue or red? So red is top spirits from getting to the base
    20:55
    The blue is what will lower the pressure in the boiler So you want to shoot the blue one is lit because that's what gives you your jackpot. So every 13 seconds You're giving a jackpot. Are you giving a chance in the jackpot? You can see that on the apron as it counts it down
    21:13
    So I'm depending on how much pressure is there that's what your jackpot value is. Whether you get a jackpot, a super jackpot, or a mega jackpot. So you're saying hit blue when it's lit, otherwise red. Okay. Right, red. What you'll see is on the map, you'll have a red dot, and it's coming towards the basement. So once it reaches the basement, once that spirit reaches the basement, it'll increase the pressure. However, if you shoot the red shot, you expel the spirit, and it won't reach the basement. It slows it down. Okay.
    21:46
    All right. Stay on, MaltiBall. So you're saying... Uh-oh. There we go. The gate. I have not had any issues with the gate back there since I bent it down a little bit. That's all I had to do. Good, good, good. Yeah. I remember I sent you a picture of that, Carl, and you were like, how? I was like... Where are my other balls?
    22:14
    This should be a MaltiBall. Good question. Eric. You did install Eric's brand new code. I did install Eric's brand new code.
    22:29
    Jared's took it. I bet if you hit the help target, you'll get an add-on and that'll bring all the other bugs on. Or maybe not since this call is gone. But yeah, there's definitely an issue here.
    22:38
    All right. Well, I wonder what'll happen when I drain this. It's alright. There we go. Let's just farm jackpots. Yeah, so this is the one time... You see the red?
    22:56
    That's a super jackpot. That's why the tower fell. Yeah, I did this one time last week and it blew my mind. Let's see if I can do it though.
    23:08
    There it is. That's such a cool thing. I didn't even know mechanically that would happen so when it happened it kind of blew my mind. So if you get to the second super, it'll be on the side ramp, and that'll push through the door to nowhere.
    23:25
    It's one of the few things that does that right now. But that second one's pretty good, too. Although in single ball, you can do that. Yeah, I have a chance.
    23:34
    All right, and since you shot three right ramps total, you've now started Stair Madness. Does that build? Build value and switches. It builds value. You can see it building on the lower left of the screen. And then you shoot the target. There's the help. The help did it.
    23:50
    So we just need to avoid the help target. All right. I need to. This is where everything gets nuts. Where's my other blue shot?
    24:06
    There's. You can always shoot the cap of the ball to bring more jackpots. And you just did. You just hit it.
    24:13
    And now you're saying I got to hit that. upper flipper shot. Yeah, if you can hit that side ramp, that's your next duper, and that's the it'll be big value, because the more spirits you bring brought into here, the more deck bots, the bigger value. Keep throwing the drop.
    24:29
    The best way to feed that is by shooting the far right ramp, right? Yeah. Unless it doesn't know what to do now. Now, okay. 91, nice. Yeah.
    24:43
    So if I would have hit that way, you're saying it would have diverted... Is there a diverter back there? Yeah, the door. It would let it go through the door, and then it would come down the left orbit. Really? Yeah, I've not seen that yet. So that's pretty awesome.
    24:59
    That's pretty awesome. Okay, where am I at? Advanced tour. I got two green shots over there. Both of those would get me to the seance room, I assume? Right. If you don't want to play the seance room, you could use one of your keys right now to move. You see the white path leading from the stands room? Ah. So it would go to the kitchen. So if you used your key, it would start walking you straight to the kitchen. That's clever. That's pretty cool. Oh.
    25:26
    All right. So we're going to play Seance. This one is, there's like nothing's happening, right? We're just working our way through the mansion. Is that right? Right. So the plot here is you get to the room, and it looks like there's nothing in there. So then you leave the room. And that's when you start hearing the bells, the bell toll.
    25:48
    So the spirits are calling you back. Oh, so we were there and now we... Okay. You've left, but the thing with the Winchester Mystery House is once you leave that room, there's no doorknob, there's no way to get back in the room without going around.
    26:04
    Or you exit through a... It doesn't open. It's like a hidden door. Yeah. Now I've got to hit the... Nope. Okay. Interesting. Knowing the person that designed it, she would want the stance room to not be accessible easily. Did somebody message Eric? Because this guy needs to hear it now. Hey, guys, I broke it. Eric, right there.
    26:29
    Carl, did you? Did you? Tax Eric. My hands have been there. I don't know. Please, record your visit in a while. Eric, everything's fine. Just, I mean, curious, but multi-ball typically has more than one ball, right? I don't know if you're trying to do it with this game, but it'll be fine. Okay, I've got to mess with something weird with the audio.
    26:53
    Okay, so you're saying settings, audio. Any idea what this should all be? Oh, it's all on five. Wow. Just bump the voice call-outs up. You know, bump them by three or four. We can play with it during the game because you can enter the menu in the middle of the game. Extra ball for DLC now. Interesting strategy.
    27:15
    I was told there was no DLC with the barrels of fun. Never familiar with this before. Yeah, that's better. All right, Jared. What? So what I'm already realizing, Carl, is there's a lot we missed. There's a lot we missed. There's a lot more in the game that you, yeah, that you, you were getting a lot of it, but you didn't notice you were getting anything. Yes. There's a lot more going on here than you realize. My wife came down here and played it, and she came up, and she's like, I usually like scary stuff, but, like, I mean, she got the vibe immediately, you know? There was no way you can't, right? Ah!
    27:54
    So you start with one key at all times. Right. So I could get her in a mode or walk up to a door and go, I don't want to do this door key, and that would take me to another room. Right, exactly. It'll take you to where that white house is. You change the white pass with the left ram, if one's available. Okay.
    28:15
    However, if you sprint to the room, you're stuck in that room. You can't play another one. Oh, so sprinting, no cue. Okay.
    28:26
    This is where I'm sprinting. Carl doesn't want me to. So these rules are complex. Sprint all you want.
    28:34
    I would say this. As a resident, like, dumb guy of pinball, there is logic to it like it's not impossible no there are games out there that are just complexity alright here's the scary mode there is logic to this dirty pool come on man he had too much fun with that
    29:04
    I need to get trapped up the one handed play Carl I assume people will not play this in a tournament maybe they will it's got a lot of shots in it so maybe they will and it's later in the house my favorite thing right now to do is start the Venetian and work my way all the way to the daisy bedroom without starting a mode so that I've got my mode value ultra high of course How would one do that, Carl? He said he uses the keys. You got to get five keys.
    29:45
    Don't let him get too close. That was too close. Oh, come on, Joel. Make your shot. Don't let them get too close. Okay, trap up. Hey, dirty pool. His name is Carl D'Angelo. Time to move on. I don't know if you've heard of him. Did you see that? Oh, that's not the shot. That's not the shot.
    30:12
    That's not the shot either. And it's about to get scary. There it is Carl getting scary over here with the camera movements man You in the spooky thing Yeah my camera not liking it He like flipping it everywhere Alright, so now I gotta do... Oh, sorry, yeah. Sorry, dirty fool.
    30:36
    Come on. It's about to do it. It's about to do it. Spook, spook, spook, spook. Now, Carl, is that a consistent spooky? Or is there some variation on when he pops? No! Is it every 30 seconds? It's a time, yeah. So it's always going to be every 16 beats. Oh, I can count. I mean, I've gotten used to it. I've gotten used to, like, it's going to happen right about there. Try to tap up.
    31:04
    Yeah, it's just that basement mode, and it freaks you out. You can look on this screen and see the spirit kind of lunging at you, but it's... Yeah, so it always is left, right, spinner, and then after you see it in the spinner, that's when it's going to come at you.
    31:19
    Oh, you can... I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. The more times the spooky shows up, the lower your score is. Oh!
    31:28
    Well, who cares about the score, you know? I mean, Carl, for you to beat that mode, because I'm assuming you're like good, so you can just... I mean, you still... It's not like hitting a shot will delay the ghost from coming. So you're still having to, at some point, do the one-handed play.
    31:49
    Oh, absolutely. Of course. Or I know it's coming, and I'll try and trap up and wait for it, because I know it's right there.
    31:56
    All right, Jared, so this kitchen mode, so he has to do a blue card. Oh, is the mode on? Yeah. Oh, because it's multiple. Okay. All right. Calm down. All the modes have big fat completion bonuses. Yes, I've only seen those a few times.
    32:18
    I didn't realize how fat they were. I love the basement mode, though. That's like... That's my goal. I don't know how long I'm going to have this game. Zach, I know, misses it. He'll probably take it back this week. So I'm like, I have got to beat the basement mode one time.
    32:40
    Okay, for discussion earlier in chat, I've played with the new Avatar cards. I don't have a ton of them. They're super fun. I also have the kids watching Avatar now to explain the lore to me. You haven't watched the Avatars? Here's your Magic the Gathering update, everybody. You haven't watched Avatar the last year?
    33:00
    The Nickelodeon show is so great. Carl, you've watched it. Oh, yeah, I watched it. I remember when it aired. Still old now. Yeah, I remember watching the finale live, you know, one of those things, you know, when you watch TV live. Did you have your giant water bison pillow, and you're like, come on, man. I had a big quesapa. I did. I had a giant little 18-inch appa, yeah. Yep, yep. I'm, like, getting into it just looking at the cardboard. I'm, like, I learned what a fadger bowl is the other day. Those are cool. Cheers. The lettuce merchant. You don't know until you see cabbage.
    33:41
    Yeah. It's. I'm just saying I'm down. Yeah. I'm down. Here we go. And the knee is okay. Hang on. Stick around until 13 seconds.
    34:00
    Carl, there's a lot of 13s in this game. Why? Oh, because I let the pressure down. Wait, do I have two cards? Your favorite number. Wow.
    34:12
    There it is. So that'll stop the chat. Now, if we go to the Winchester Mystery House and we say, hey, we are aware of the pinball machine. Can we get 10% off this count on the ticket? I think we should.
    34:26
    You should. Yeah. Cabbage with shrimp? Cabbage Man has shrimp? Dude, the Cabbage Man is such a great. There's a lot of cards with the cabbage man. If you watch the show, he's a valuable character.
    34:39
    No, he's a random one-off character. Remember. He's got a returning, what's the word? It's a joke. Yeah, it's a joke that's consistent throughout the episode. He's got cabbages. His cabbage cart gets destroyed multiple times. Okay, that makes sense because there's a lot of cards with cabbages exploding. so remember I'm piecing together this story only through cardboard right through magic cards but I'm loving it big old flying water buffalo apple thing yep yep I'm learning you I think you should watch the movie now the movie's so bad that's the live action one right there we go don't watch the movie watch yeah no it's awful dirty pool one of my favorite rooms I like this room a lot because it shows off the turntable so well But the basement is still my go-to. So there's the help. Help just reached.
    35:39
    So you get the second shot spotted for you. Oh, because I hit the health target. That's so cool to know that, but also the fact that there's a time associated with it. You missed him a ton.
    35:48
    Oh, health target for those that didn't know. Right there. Oh. Come on. Come on! That's not what I was... Okay, that spun while the ball was coming back down.
    36:08
    Uh-oh, here's the 2x playfield. There it is. Ignore the lack of tilt box, Carl. You never put one in. I didn't know you were talking about this. There is no tilt. We don't know, Carl. You don't open it up. You never know.
    36:24
    How about server-aids, man? Okay, but all my points are being captured. 50-something points over there.
    36:34
    You've got a lot sitting there. I know. Your time just expired on it, so you've got to collect it now.
    36:41
    I'm just going to collect more points. Although you're in your last shot here, so. I want to get your points. Ah, get around. There's my points. I got the points. I got my points. All right, one shot for the mode. Well... One shot, one shot, easy shot, easy shot. And this is where we train.
    37:00
    Easy shot in the game. And I missed it. If there was a mode about hitting the authenticator, whatever that is,
    37:09
    if there was that mode, like hit that 50 times in 10 seconds, I would beat that. Nice, you got it. Big points. Look at that fat mode completion. Big points.
    37:21
    Almost a drain. All right, now you can light the memento on the captain ball. That's the light blue there. It'll stick around for the next ball. It'll still be there. So the captain ball, I saw it was blinking green, blue, and purple. Right. So there's a lot going on. Green's your lock. Purple is your mystery tier. So there's three different tiers of mystery that are kind of sitting behind the scenes here. So that light the second tier. And then the blue would be the memento. The memento is what's going to light the wizard funds. So once you get three mementos... Oh, so memento is the same as, like, the orbs in Labyrinth, almost? You beat your mode. Kind of.
    38:01
    But it's that you've got to beat a mode to get a chance to get the momentum. Right, right, exactly. There'll be some other stuff, like super jackpots will give them memento. Yeah.
    38:13
    One on the mystery. There's some of the wild card ones that aren't associated with the modes. Okay. And that's the way I think most people will be getting to the initial wizard mode. Okay. And you have to hit the captive ball to light a shot to get the memento? No, that'll collect it. That'll just get it. And it'll also give you a perk. Every room has its own perk.
    38:33
    So I just need to hit captive ball. Or drink. It's fine. Who needs to play the game, right? Okay, if I could just... I mean, you can start your multi-balling. Do it during multi-ball, too. That's a good idea.
    38:48
    Or just not. There we go. Okay. All right, blue shot. All right, there'll be two to start on the spinner and the right.
    39:09
    So, Eric, look at all the other balls, Eric. Look at how they're coming out. Maybe they'll come out now. I bet they'll come out now. Yeah, there they come. Yep.
    39:28
    I still not hit my captain ball. There. Oh, how did that not? There it is. There's my captain ball. There you go. You got the mirror of teaspoon, which fills your spirit energy immediately.
    39:44
    And so now you have a super spinner. Well, you shoot a ramp and then shoot the spinner. You get the spirit spinner bug.
    39:56
    Whatever. I lost all that multiple. I love that magnet up there. It's powerful. The way it, sometimes the ball is like somewhat near it, and it just like sucks it up. What are you saying? I need to... Oh, hey. So Eric is blaming Jeff for the lack of the pins, the balls, and multiballs. Ooh, they need to pop tickets.
    40:27
    How would Jeff's audio guide? I'm just saying, the table tracks balls because with 30 full shots, Jake's picks to Jeff. I see some rivalry. What am I in right now? You're in spirit spinner. So you want to shoot the spinner for big points. That's what this is. Nope.
    40:50
    Ah. The spinner shot is not an easy shot for me. It's that shot, the one up the middle. I love this mode, Carl.
    41:03
    I'm going to hit it eventually. Like, get. Ah. Come on, Joel. It's just right there. It's the middle. You head left and right. Just right down. Hopefully it's going to time out the moment I actually hit it.
    41:24
    Well, now you've got to take it. Still warning. Yeah. No warning at all. There it is. Time's out, right? I was, you know.
    41:35
    Eventually. Sorry, Carl. All right. Red shot first. And now blue shots. Don't forget that health target will also spot one of them. As long as blue's are out. If you do it when the red's out, then you can flick.
    42:00
    But how did you aim for that health target? Yeah, it's very low in the flipper. Most of the time you'll ricochet into it. There we go. I got it. There you go. But it's red. Hit the red before it's gone.
    42:13
    Oh, you're saying before. Yeah, it spotted your side ramp. Oh, it's over. There we go. What's yellow on the.
    42:25
    That is your 13th set. So I see loops is blinking on the upper left. Okay. So that will start your loops. Loops and combos.
    42:37
    Oh, yeah, you do. Will it do them both at the same time, the two modes? Yeah, it will. And if you bring two in, you'll actually have 2x scoring on all of them. So the idea is if you start them all at the same time, you'll get 5x scoring on all five of them. It's going to be extremely difficult to bring all five in at once. Okay. And how do I... Near impossible. Summons is the only one I'm at 8.
    43:02
    That's by hitting the capitol, the green shot? That's the enunciator, which lights the random spirit. I can hit that all day. Carl? I can hit the enunciator all day. You've got to hit the spirit now, though. Where the spirit goes. Don't make it a two-step process. Just, you know.
    43:19
    There we go. Or you can hit the drop target when they're on advance 13 to advance everything by one. Ah, okay. Okay. You're given options here. Now, because I've played that before, I have to do that. I have to do multiple shots, right?
    43:42
    To do the wheelbarrow mode again? Yes. Yeah, you have to lock all three balls now. Some such thing. Same with Sam. Okay.
    43:52
    Am I at the room? I'm at the room. I tried. Nope. There we go. Come on. Nope. I'll get there I'm going to get it I can get this shot or not don't call it just fumble it's all good you're fine did the announcer move the shot yes I wanted it there hit the right orbit I got an extra ball Carl Hey you curse Carl Before I curse Carl tonight Carl Where I feel I need It's almost like I need to apologize But I also think it's hilarious There was a post on Reddit right That says is Winchester a brick fest And somebody was like I watched the stream last night And it looks like he can't hit a shot And to see somebody say like Jared and Joel are not a good representation of whether or not a game's a brick fest. And I thought that was hilarious. I laughed. I laughed way too much at that. And then it was, Joel is better than an average player. I have left the chat. No one's defending what I do. We're done fine with it. I just thought that was the greatest thing. Oh, I got a text message, Carl. He sent me... Actually, I've got multiple things involving you. I also got the late-night Twitch stream of you showing Doom. with the fave and he's like, and I'm half asleep and then today I watched it and went, wow. Buy a dune, Joel. Just buy one. Yes, buy a dune, Joel. Thank you, Carl. I ain't quite here yet. It might cut out. Dune. Buy a dune. Okay. Buy a dune. Come on. Okay. Both?
    45:57
    Yeah. Oh, move the shot. So I must have done the help target? Yeah, exactly. That's not kind of... Although this is probably the shot you wanted the help for. Yep, yep, yep. Sure.
    46:14
    Figures can't be choosers, Carl, you know. Come on. Hit the spinner. There you go. Oh, Jesus. Looks good. Who designed this, you know? I don't know. Come on. It's really hard to track. Put the spinner where that target is. Not where it is. I originally had two spinners in the game, one in front of the middle trot, too. Oh, double. Hey, I'm starting my thingy. There you go. So, loops, skippy points here, and then the side ramp, go to nowhere. This is the other mode that will blow the ball through the diverter that's there. If I can get it.
    46:51
    And that one's worth a lot of points. That's a very high value. Especially at 2X, you'll be getting $40 million, I think, maybe. for a single shot. I got to get it to the upper right flipper. There we go.
    47:05
    Hit the shot. Nope. That's a shot I haven't quite found yet. That's going to go too late. Going to drop it down. Too late. That's okay. What did I miss out on? My move? No. Yeah, my move. Come on. Nope, that's going to go back there. I want to feed the upper right clipper.
    47:30
    So right now, the right, the spinner shot will also feed it. But then it's in that position, the turn table. Oh, you're right.
    47:40
    Or we'll feed it that way. We just lay up and run it out over time. There we go. Come on. Oh, it's so early. I was so early. And that mode's over.
    47:56
    Still got 26 million out of the loop. That ball is so fast. Yeah, that's a sneaky one, Carl. That back loop around the back, it's screaming that shit.
    48:10
    Hey, thank Nick the Knots for $19.99. Appreciate it. We do think Carl is awesome and rocks. Pinball. And thank you all for the pinball that he was secretly working on super secret forever. and then just dropped it on the world. All right, check this out. I'm at ten summons.
    48:35
    Man, that feels really far away, though. I think the far right shot. 40 seconds. That's a long time to keep it alive.
    48:49
    Push the buzzer. Long walk. Make it in there. I'm going with the Carl. I'm looking at, that's a green shot, though.
    48:58
    Yep. Nope. It's also locked for air with a barrel. Dirty pool. Don't give me your money. I appreciate it.
    49:05
    I will take your $4.99 to buy a dune. Sure. Yeah. Okay, not going to lie, people. I checked the wife again about buying a dune.
    49:19
    Did that time out? Yeah. Is that authentic enunciator? You may have hit the target again, or... It doesn't time out, so it should still be there. That's two of those. It'll kick out. Oh, sick. Okay, starting this mode. Fair play. Now I can get a couple. Okay, that arrow up there is white-ish blue. Should I be prioritizing that, or no? So that's like a one-time... it doubles the mode bonus. And this mode, so every mode has a special bonus. This one in particular is, unfortunately, over.
    50:04
    That one, so you can hit every shot twice on this, right? Yes, yes. And there's six shots. It's all the big fade out, yeah. Right, so the bonus is it calculates how many times you've hit unique shots. So you actually use all six shots for the six scandals to get a higher bonus. Gotcha. compared to just hitting enough to get through the mode.
    50:26
    Eric keeps asking who the, hold on, your initials. He keeps asking if we are putting in Zach's initials. Supposedly ZMT does something. ZMT does something? ZTM, ZMT. I haven't tried it myself, so. What am I, okay, I can do it. Who, ZMT?
    50:45
    Zach Mini? Eric, is it ZMT? Or is it ZTM? Yeah, ZTM, sorry. ZTM it's gonna be spooky here we go you ready let's do and then hey thanks to here we go and here we go for the fuck 99 something oh now that happened oh trick you got tricked is it ZLM I don't know these people's names cause there goes my high score you know it's probably ZLM hey we got a buck 99 that says die a boon I don't know what that means. Diaboom? Oh, thank you. I would put that in. Go ahead, Jared. You can do a game by yourself. I was... Okay, so do you understand when Joel does this, when he says play by yourself, that means I've been playing really bad. Oh, dip. Like, really bad. No, it means I feel like I just played a long game and you watched, so it's time to... Really bad.
    51:44
    I think it's D-L-M. So Jared can get a big score right here. Big score! That's not going to do anything.
    52:04
    What happened? There it is. Jared, the trick is the single ball. That's the trick. Yeah, that's cheating, isn't it? Not that. That's great. So the 13 mode, that's like a little mini wizard mode, I guess, that I was a few seconds away from?
    52:27
    Once it's in the game, yeah. Oh, it's not there. Okay, so I didn't miss it. It's not there, so no. Oh, okay.
    52:33
    But yes, that'll be a multi-ball. Once you get all those to 13, you play all the individual modes. Carl, have you submitted any Stern scores? The beaten score? I saw that. Your turtles seem kind of high. Well, I have the entire deck, and I have all my turtles leveled to level four. So it's like you get whatever, 3X Mikey's 3X Pizza Party multiball, and then Raphael's double, I think it's double mode scoring. Whatever it is, it's still hard for me to get close to 100 million, but I've broken a few times. But anyway, somebody, I keep getting messages from people when they break it. Like this guy, shout out to AJ. He just sent me a picture of his. He's like, is that good? I think that's pretty cool. This is new. If you look at this, those were not there last time.
    53:33
    They should have been. If they were, I never noticed. So this is kind of telling me what's going on.
    53:39
    Right, and the match in the middle. So what happens is occasionally the match will go out and you have to relight the match. That's what those blue-white shots are. Oh, okay.
    53:55
    I do like the light. Does this mean there's... is it two LEDs per arrow or is there three? Three. Nice. I'm a fan of those. Nice. I'm a fan of, that's one of my, I remember seeing American Pinball do that on, I think it was Hot Wheels when they first started strobing. That was like, wow. And then I think, I think they also did it where you ever tilt, or when you get a danger, all the inserts, everything flashes red when you get a danger. That was, I think those two lighting effects may have been my favorite things from American Pinball. Just period, that's it. You're one shot away, Jared. One shot. From Big Time Mode? Really? Yeah, from beating the mode, yeah. I thought I was close. I'm glad you didn't say that at the time. I was really close, probably.
    54:47
    Okay, ZLM. ZLM is what we need. Torgan, Torgan. Okay, so he just hit the call speed. No, that didn't count. It was the first one. Okay, okay, okay.
    55:06
    So the captain ball now, green and purple. Green with light is locked. And purple... And it would drop to the end line.
    55:16
    And purple would advance its ear. Does it do both? Does it splash in both? Yeah, it does both. Ah. Nice, nice, nice, nice. Very cool. What's the current GC? Whatever Jared just said.
    55:32
    I... Carl, what was my score a few games ago? Yours was 270 right now. I think this game is the game that Al played. Oh, that's right. He got like 600 something at the show. Yeah.
    55:44
    Okay. Isn't this game going to be getting a topper? He had some beneficial malfunctions during that game. What? You said Carl? He had some beneficial malfunctions during that game. Oh, yeah? Yeah. A lot of stance multiballs. Nice.
    55:58
    Carl, I'm assuming there's a topper designed for this game. Yes. Yes, there's a topper coming. Nice.
    56:08
    See? Pretty shot's easy. I don't know what you're talking about. My buddy Chris came over, and that was like, you know how everybody naturally kind of has a flipper shot? Like, they just have that go-to. And Chris, I promise you, his flipper, like, he hit that spinner shot. Like, that was the go-to shot. He's trying to hit, you know, left of it to scoop or trying to hit right. No, just boom, boom, boom. Oh, Jerry. What speed pitch is this game? It is, I measured it. It's like 6.7, I think.
    56:44
    Oh, 5.9. Yeah, you know, Jerry, yeah. I mean, I'm an engineer. I just look at it. Yeah, that's about 6 millimeters. Oh, millimeters now. Yeah, bro. What do the engineers like? Talking millimeters. Alright Carl, I need to know What does the home workshop look like? Where are we crafting This white wood Where'd you build all this?
    57:08
    It's actually in this room But it's dark in here so you can't see the rest of it I've got my My game over here My initial white wood And then the current white wood Downstairs, the prototype white wood So yeah, my office here I was 3D printing parts to build the original white wood just to figure out the shots and the layout so it's the only metal before we went to the metal. Since I'm in California and I can't, you know, I don't have all the tools necessary to build things out of metal.
    57:42
    So you were 3D printing the... The orbits, the ball guides, and the ramps. Yeah, just to make sure, just to validate the shots work and how they should.
    57:56
    Cool. Well, Dirty Pool, I guess, already does. If you already talked about Dirty Pool, I guess I won't ask Carl about his sponge wars.
    58:05
    It's cool. So, does the 3D print hold up well to, like, how often do you move stuff around? It's going to be scary, Jerry. It held up every time.
    58:20
    I was surprised. It had no issues. I even had a 3D printed turntable. It wouldn't move. I would I'd actually have to unscrew it and then rotate it and drop it back into position. Just to check the end.
    58:35
    Yeah, you make the balls thick enough on it. It's gonna hold up no matter what. Really? Huh, cool. So just normal, what type of 3D printer are you using?
    58:45
    I have a bamboo. I have a P1X. You have a bamboo? Okay. Yeah. So nothing? Wow. Hey guys, you hear that? Yeah. And it was just the PLA Plus that I was using. Nothing, you know, special. Nothing fancy. Yeah. Cool. So Blaster asks, where does the spinner right now with the turntable? It goes up, hits a target, and then you're back. But there are times where the turntable will cause it to do that. There are times where the turntable will cause it to do that. I mean, it's... I don't know. I'd be really... That's an aha moment you must have had. Because it's what? It's a scoop in three ballpacks. All paths, right? Yeah. In the turntable? Yeah, there's six entrances and then two scoops. Two scoops. But knowing that, like figuring out that measurement so that it could all work is...
    59:39
    Our game is geometry-wise, so it didn't rattle too much on all the dots. Everything feels like it works well. Yeah. Yeah, it's really neat.
    59:50
    that shot seems to occasionally find straight down the middle it can be I don't a little nudge maybe my nudge is a little more than a little I mean when you yeah when the ball's coming back down Carl where do you expect it to go left flipper it can't go to the right it should clip that target on the right just slightly and push it over to the left flipper. That's the idea.
    60:24
    So if it's not going to, you get a little nudge. That's what you need. Okay, we haven't shown the purple mode yet. We don know how much I like that If you love the spin just hit the spin Or you can go to well no you already went to the basement so Jared needs to be in the basement There we go. Purple shot.
    60:49
    Yep, that's it. That was better. Oh, very close. That whole clip in the target thing. Oh, that's what I'm doing really well. There it is, right here. Never a doubt. Yep, that was exactly what I was thinking for. The right orbit. To the stay-out room. which is the football corner. That's exactly what I was thinking. And again at the 2 a.m. Oh, you dog. It's okay. We're walking. We're okay.
    61:19
    Pro players. Carl, I appreciate your patience. It's great. I'm sorry, Carl. Don't be sorry. What was the... I think my text back was, oh, Carl's going to be so disappointed in us tonight.
    61:33
    What was your... Why? I said, did I win Chester with Carl tonight? And your text was, he will be so disappointed by our play. He said, also, the new fade mode is amazing. Dude is the greatest. That's what he sent me. I was like, yep. Black Rose, show him Pinball Wizard. You know it, man. You know it, yep.
    61:55
    Carl, are you currently working on the next pin or taking some time off? No rest for the weekend, right? There's no break. There's no rest, yeah. No break. And you still have a full-time job, right? and I still have a full-time job, yeah. That's what always amazes me whenever I see, you know, a game's released, you know, let's say you're interviewing Elwin about Kong, and you realize, like, he's talking about Kong, but he kind of wrapped up a lot of that six months, whatever, six, eight, like, he's deep into whatever the next game is and trying to, like, balance that.
    62:29
    Woof. Yeah, there's a lot going on in your world, Carl. Okay, so people have tried to explain to me. So you work some sort of tech thing at a school system, right? Yeah, exactly. So basically anything, server management, wireless management, network management, just anything that's technology related, AV.
    62:55
    Everything's green right now. They go, where's Carl? Oh, the Spirit Energy 2X. The computer broke. Need Carl.
    63:03
    Yeah, that's cool man I've got spirits bitter run. So you better you got a bunch of on our natural So there's so many flashes and you now have a 13th running
    63:18
    Did I get my point I got my points all right No, there's there's still you're still earning multiply points for you. Oh, so the deal is now it's now it's
    63:33
    Oh, yay. No. Get out of here. We're going to have to do a six-level review. So this mode is also a little different. There's actually two different paths based on when you play this mode. So if you had played the Twin Dining Room, you would have already experienced the silver man that you see sitting in front of you, and you'd actually skip this room. So it would make this shorter.
    63:57
    Oh, so there's a benefit of doing stay-on-cladder after you've cleared out some of the modes because the streaky ghosts are gone. I think that happened last week. That one in particular. There we go. Yeah.
    64:12
    Oh, you got robbed. Yeah. Was the man supposed to grab that? No. There it is. Yeah. Bells pulled. What is this? This is... What happened? After 13 are told, you're done. With the mode.
    64:31
    Well, we all know. I gotta be close to beating that load. It's over, but... Come on, dude. Dude, I cannot hit that... That, uh... Shot time. Alright, right up the middle. Nope.
    64:58
    Nope. I'm going to give you a multi-ball that's sitting there. Over on the left? There we go. We'll do that. There you go.
    65:08
    And that will relight your kickback, too. How do I do that? How do I relight the kickback? You start the multi-ball. That's one way. Oh! Any left-carpet shot will relight it, or any mystery, any magnet grab will relight it also.
    65:22
    All right. I love this. Oh, there's so much. There you go. Yes. Chaos right now. Ah, I hit the health target. One more single. So something different here is because of where you were on the turntable, you've got a different path for this multiball. So normally that spinner shot leads into the scoop on this, but you are into the staircase. It just changes up. So there are advantages to having the turntable in this specific position for this multiball. If it had the shot that the spinner goes to left orbit, then that also has the right spinner within the upper flipper. makes it a little easier. So my point is it can change based on when you start the multiple. I've noticed that, that you don't move the turntable where it's like, okay, this is specific to the multiple, so the turntable needs to be here. It's like, no, wherever it was, that's pretty clever. So you've designed the multiple in a way where it could be in one of, what, six positions you said? They won't have eight total positions on that.
    66:36
    Mandel, calling crazy, but there's some similarities between this and Avatar. I think, besides the flippers, I don't really know what's similar.
    66:45
    Avatar was a unique game, for sure. It's a game. It's a pinball machine. We did borrow Avatar's kickback idea. Sure, where it comes out and holds the ball? That works very well.
    67:02
    Does each mode have a chance to extend time? Do you extend time in a mode? Yes, so the mystery will add 15 seconds to a mode.
    67:13
    Except for the Sam's room, because that's developed. There's no way to add time to it. Right. And then some modes have no time.
    67:27
    No Gilligan's Island Easter egg, but I didn't even think of putting that in the script. I'm assuming there are Easter eggs in this.
    67:43
    Maybe not yet, but eventually. Yeah. God. Okay. Oh! What's going on? A lot of blinking legs. But you got it all, Jared, right? So you can do this tutorial. You're ready to. Yeah. No, if you guys want the worst tutorial of all time where I'm like, and call Carl. Just email Carl at carl at gmail.com. Yes, Carl. That's his email. Carl at gmail.com.
    68:18
    What does blue light do? Oh, Carl. I might do a tutorial for this, but there's a lot here. I will miss something. There's a lot here and there's lots of the habits. I know. That's the basics right here. Oh, for sure. I mean, you said there's like 30% of the game, 25% of the game. I mean, to Carl's credit, that room, that room, that room, that room, that room, none of those are in the game yet. And the second daisy bedroom. There's going to be a different mode in the Daisy bedroom also. Wow. There's two different ones. Depending on the first wizard mode, Echoes, is where you'll experience the San Francisco earthquake.
    69:02
    And so if you visit the Daisy bedroom after that, you'll have a different mode. Completely different mode. Okay.
    69:08
    Because that's the room that Sarah was trapped in when the earthquake happened. Wow. Okay. Is there a point in the game where you get far enough the tower stays down the rest of the game? That was the original plan, but I think we're always going to have it go back up after everything.
    69:28
    I mean, the original idea with the tower was that it would make a completely different ball path after you played that earthquake, so it would stay down. But I think it's better to have it back up. Just suspend belief in whatever, if that earthquake happened or whatever.
    69:49
    So that is not nicking that target. So I see what you're saying. So we just need to move that target out a tiny bit. Yeah, it's possible it drifted over to the right a bit.
    70:00
    But I need it nice and wide so I can hit the shot. That shouldn't impair your shot based on where it is.
    70:12
    There it is. Drill it now. All right. I'm not going to run. I'm not running. I'm walking. I'm taking a nice, long, gentle stroll. Just going to hit some loops.
    70:27
    007, the hardest shot in the game, I think, is when the side ramp is lit for the diverter. For some reason, to shoot through the door to nowhere, for whatever reason, that shot begins to fill the net. This ramp right here is kind of interesting. Well, what he's saying is you've got to hit the ramp, which feeds that, and then it's that shot. Oh, it's this shot? That's the shot. Oh. that I've hit it a handful of times, and boy, does it feel good when you do.
    70:52
    But that's what's crazy to me, Carl, is there are so many different shots in this game that we've been playing for an hour and 15 minutes straight, and there are ball paths we have not seen.
    71:06
    And it's not because there are these impossible shots that you just hope they get there. It's just there's so many different ways to go
    71:23
    Blue shot so what Jared just did was essentially the exact same shot, but it feels that totally different You know that's what's that's what's really neat
    71:37
    I'm a little worried. I'll have no clue. Nah, you're you're gonna be just in it Maybe we sound like we're bumbling over here, but really a lot of it, the base, the core of the game really is very simple to understand.
    71:52
    It's all the icing on the cake that Carl's added that really adds in the complexity. But you could say the same thing about, you know, Godzilla or Jurassic Park or whatever, you know. The core of those games, pretty easy to understand. but all the bells and whistles are really when you realize how deep some of these fumble machines are.
    72:18
    The idea is you're always working towards something, even if you don't realize you're working towards it.
    72:32
    No, Jared. Ah! Dang it! Alright, let's go. Let's go. Here's the deal, I said it Carl. This game is hard but fair. It's hard but fair. When I screw up, it's my screw up. I screw up a lot. There is not a lot of like, ooh, ugh, machine. It's a lot more just like, Jared, why did you not hit the flipper? What happened?
    73:10
    There we go. Okay, Carl, your 3D print pieces, you're doing all that stuff. Got a good vibe and feel of it. Then we go to metal at that point? Yeah. Then we, yeah, send those parts out to get to, well, they'll do it in-house now, but at the time we didn't have that functionality. to build it. So they'll build it in Texas and see how it shoots in metal. I think that's how things are going to be moving forward. So I'll design things and then have it shipped out to me. That's cool. So it won't be 3D printing as much or just for this game?
    73:49
    So how long were we working on this? Like, how long does the whiteboard take? For me, the whole thing was 18 months. So Whitewood, you know, about a year ago is when I had a flipper, I think. Okay. Maybe January of last year. Okay. Of this year, I mean. This year. 25. So beginning of 2025, you had a flipping Whitewood. A flipping one that's sitting back here, yeah. So at what point did they say, no, you can't change, like you can't move anything? No new holes on the playfield. Like, where's that hard cut off, everything is physically locked in on the game? It's a couple months before the release. Okay.
    74:43
    And, you know, there's always things that will change here and there. Like, I have a part I'm adding to the game now.
    74:52
    Just the things that, you know, I see something that's bugging me, so we're going to change one final thing. Okay. Maybe another. But it's not like you have a mech designed and then Brad's drawing art, and then you're like, hey, Brad, I actually took that mech out of the game, so scrap that out. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
    75:11
    Oh, you're good. You're good. Okay, so this is Seance. Now, does your whitewood at home have the HAL lighting system? Like, did you have any idea? Okay. So you did have an idea of what some of these light shows and stuff would look like? Yeah. And Eric still loves the light show, to be honest. Eric and Trent work on that stuff. And, you know, I had some specifics for, like, the basement. I was very, you know, I wanted this on the basement.
    75:45
    I wanted the heartbeat. I wanted everything to turn off, that kind of thing. Yeah. But Eric's pretty much run through the rest of the stuff. He's been fantastic on it, I think. And then were you doing, I mean, were you doing the rules and stuff like that too? Like you're figuring out all the, what's going on in the background to make everything fun? Yep, yep, exactly.
    76:10
    So are you doing that, these notes, alongside the Whitewood production? Like building Whitewood? Yeah, so I always had an idea of the overall vibe for the game to be in the whole tour of the mansion and the rooms.
    76:29
    So once the entrance got laid out, once I laid them out, it was a nice shot to the dinner. That should be a good one. Yeah.
    76:42
    So, yeah, I wanted the layout to match with the rules. Cool. Everything to be a single unified structure instead of handing everything off to someone else to write rules for when I made these shots and I know I want to do this with this shot. Okay.
    77:02
    So what type of program is running in the background of these things? I mean, I... What's it coded? Yeah, like, I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around what that looks like.
    77:16
    I mean, that's all, that's Eric's side. Okay, okay. Eric's done all the programming. I've just done the rule design. He's done all the programming for the game. Okay. So you've got to work it, and then you hand it off to him, and then he just makes it. Okay, here's how we... Right, exactly. Besides, I say I want this mode to do this, these shots, this score value, if I have that in the doc pen already. And then he brings the light.
    77:42
    Plus does all the light shows. Plus the light shows. The light shows are probably fun. He's probably just like, zero, one, zero, zero, one, zero, one, yellow, zero, one. Because that's what colors do. when we were deciding the colors for the rooms he gave me a tool where I could play with the inserts and see the various colors try and pick colors for each room and I'm cycling through these things I had such a hard time doing it and eventually he figures out all the colors he's like I got it Carl this was a little too close we gotta change that as a non-color man I had a hard time I go to Joel and I go which color looks right because this all looks like gray to me. So you go for it. That's a Pantone 0721. No, that's not. I don't identify it that way. Yeah, you do. That's how you sound. No, I work in the printing industry. Joel, that's exactly how you sound. You're just like, oh, paint samples.
    78:42
    That's all you do all day. Color's great. I mean, I love, these light shows are impressive. There's no, I mean, I saw that in Labyrinth. I've seen that in 2. I've seen that in 3. It's pretty awesome.
    78:54
    Everyone has unique music. Yeah, Dirty Pool, Jeff, you've just crushed this. I saw Jeff posted on the Dirty Pool Facebook account the other day, him playing piano of, like, this was the initial sample he used, Carl, to, like, tell you what the theme was. Like, this is the, it's like, I don't, I don't know, as a creator, Carl, to get that and be like, I don't know, I'm assuming that's a cool moment. Like, yes. that's yeah it was an incident yes this is exactly what we want yeah that's they went ha ha ha ha ha they probably talked about I don't know school for a while or something like that seems like a giant nerd Jeff actually he's a real cool guy might be out I want to see all the cool equipment he's got everybody's fine so we you knew the theme pretty early on this right like yeah I mean the game was designed from the ground up with this theme with Winchester okay yeah so what so was it like a dark and stormy night and you're sitting there in your house and you're like turntable that's what we need a spinning turntable. There was like a light bulb come on and he ran. This was like I wanted that ramp that was sideways for the staircase to nowhere. So it all evolved from that. This is the first one. Not that one. Yeah, the one with the magnet that grabs for the little barrel. The one off of the turntable.
    80:40
    Oh, okay. So part of the turntable. Yeah, the one that's sideways. Yeah, so it was a matter of we had the bird there and thinking oh, I want something more dynamic, and then added four shots, and oh, yeah, we can do something with the fins, and then it grew into this giant beast that turned up.
    80:58
    So it's one specific shot. I want to do this thing. And then you're like, well, but I need it to do other. I need to build some space or something. And then it was like, make it a circle. And that was your aha moment.
    81:15
    You're in the streets yelling, I figured it out. make a turn. Can we do this? Can we make it work? Heck yeah. Dirty Pool, yeah, I will come out to LA. We can play some drafts.
    81:30
    David goes, anything's possible, David, if you figure it out, Carl. I mean, I, look, I want to kind of like get in underneath this thing and just see what's going on. So I was telling you I was showing some of my nerd engineer friends. I've been showing them some footage of this thing. And I'm like, how does this work? It's a big funnel. Right? It's crazy. So it's a single stepper with a brake. It's direct drive. And it has three mounting points on the thing. So it's flush, basically, from the get-go. So you shouldn't have to level it. It should always come from the factory flush. And it's actually a pretty simple device, if you think of it that way. And the brake's just to hold it in place when it stops. Yeah, but it's that timing of the brake, too. That's part of the hard part. But the brakes aren't used to actually stop it. The brakes are only used to hold it. It's just the stepper itself that... Oh, it's stepping. Okay. Oh.
    82:33
    Oh, I was making it way more difficult. And it has a single homing off, though. And that's it. It goes back, and then it can step itself. Sorry for the, like... Wait, it just, it orients it off of one location, single spot? Finds a spot. So that's why it gets to that first, and then it knows. You'll see it do it. Right, so in between balls, you'll see it do it. It goes to that home spot and then it rotates back into the position. See, I just think there's a little man back there.
    82:59
    Just waiting, and then he just turns it, you know. It comes with every game. Oh, turn it. Oh, drop the table. Drop the tower. I'm going to figure out this one. It's the two balls that make it hard.
    83:18
    Eric tries to help us by not kicking all the balls out sometimes. You know? And there she goes. There you go. Nice shot.
    83:31
    See? No problem. You got it. All right. Real quick. Get that in there. That's how it goes. I cannot find that shot. This one. It's way late on the flipper. This upper shot. Late? Sometimes it's not that bad. When it's the scoop, when the scoop's in that spot, I feel like I can hit it pretty well, but other times it's a lot harder. Yeah, it depends on what is there exactly. It opens up the shot or it shrinks the base spot. Well, there you go. You made that.
    84:04
    All right, let's see if we can get through this one. All right. Jared needs to focus. Oh, the draft ball being quick. Ooh, did you see that? How do you call that? Jared's doing, Jared's actually throwing some pinball moves into that.
    84:22
    Okay, okay. So you're saying, Carl, when you're like, all right, I'm doing Winchester, what's the first toy, like, did you just tell yourself, like, three flipper game, and I wanted this, like, start with that, or is it like, no? Four flippers. You're saying that, or four, yeah. where it's like, this toy, that was the main starting point. I gotta figure this shot out. It was, we need the staircase to nowhere, we need the door to nowhere, we need the falling tower.
    84:49
    Figure out how to put those in. Boom, boom, boom. So you start with that. Yeah. And then somehow, everything else. We want some sort of ghost inside the mansion somewhere.
    85:01
    Break the hole when not moving. How to get that effect working. I guess you're talking about the mirror. Yeah, the pepper ghost.
    85:12
    Okay, let's see if I can beat this. It is the two balls that make that hard. Why is it a... At first, you're like, it's a gift. It's an extra ball. Yay! And then it's not. You've got to shoot the scoop. Hey, I do appreciate it, Carl. Sometimes scoops can be hard shots. But you put two nice little things by side of it. So if you don't hit it perfectly, it just kind of... into the scoots and he grabs it every time that's why the mode shots are always there why they always fire at the center at the beginning of the game just put a little bumper in front of every scoots that should be the new rule also don't put scoots on a stream car ride sure hate that Metallica, Guardians Godzilla Godzilla.
    86:05
    How was Potter for you, Jared? Potter? Oh, wow. I looked away from you. He was so overwhelmed by Potter. Yeah. Potter was a lot. Like, okay, so there's... I meant the scoop. The scoop. Oh, the scoop. Oh. Not in general. No, the scoop, yeah. So the scoop is about right there on Potter. Yeah, it wasn't easy. I got other opinions about Potter. But yeah, this goop, yeah. No, when people, because people will look at this and be like, there's a lot going on here. In the past 12 months, we have played games that there's so much more going on than this. Like, you can kind of ease into this thing. You figure out which ones I'm talking about. Well, this game has that much depth, but that much depth isn't streaming at you. There's a difference between depth and a full frontal assault of everything. okay that's two separate things now Carl why do I not have a room wheelbarrow multi-ball stay on multi-ball a hurry up all going on at the same time why didn't you allow that you know you want to stack everything right like all the things all the things and then yeah I mean hey can we move on because this is a fun game let's just move on hey there are people out there You know, Carl's one of them. You can figure that out. You can learn it. It's a lot of work to learn. That's awesome. I mean, you can bring Sam's multi-ball into most modes. Not all the modes, but most of the modes.
    87:41
    But you can't stack stuff in this game. But wheelbarrow ghost, you have to keep that by itself. That's the only place when you're trapped. That's the only way to get into that. This shot. Nope. And the idea was just we want the modes to be impactful. You want to see the story, keep the turntable action. Because if you bring that motorball in, that turntable stops moving for the moment. So you don't see that anymore. But that could be your advantage. It could make the mode easier. Because it could put the turntable in a specific spot that has easier shots. Joel, are you thinking turntable position yet on this game? No. I don't think you're to turntable position yet. I think Gertie Poole had a great question, which is, why can you not open two rooms at the same time? That's what I... I have two hands. Why can't you stack rooms, Carl? I have two hands. I can open both of these rooms. I can't be in the bedroom and the basement at the same time. That's on yourself. Wait, we're not ghosts in the game. Oh, if we were ghosts, we could be in too. But we're real people. That's it. See, Carl's keeping the lore accurate, which I appreciate. I appreciate people keeping things lore accurate.
    88:53
    All right. Ball three. Is it? Yeah, ball three? Yeah. Why are my drops up right now, Eric? Well, my drop's down. See, now Eric will be on next, and he'll be like, why were you blaming me for everything?
    89:13
    I'm not the one who designed a turntable. Yeah, yeah. Never met you, Eric. Don't know how you're down, bro. You bet. No, I didn't meet Eric. He's a nice guy. Very nice guy. He likes bare-ass as well. Some people may say that we show. We do show. Buy your pinball machine at openout.com. Anyway.
    89:33
    We show for barrels of fun, too. Show, show, show. Buy their stuff. Oh, that was the help that just gave me the answer. I wasn't there. Hey. No. The help should be in that office. You know, important because I have a barrels of fun employee on the line. We need more barrels of fun merch out there. I don't know who you need to talk to. I need 30. There we go. I need all this. I think it's Just put out some more merch, I think. All I saw was one t-shirt on the website that I just looked at. So we need, I need, like, all the barrels of fun. Maybe if you get a shirt that says Dune on it, I'll buy, like, four of them. Well, the shirt was, uh, kind of a cute shirt. Yeah.
    90:16
    Okay, well, maybe I need to go to Cupid's Arcade Expo. Oh, that's the problem. I need to go to more exos. I am. Come on, Joel. I'm falling. Clearly, those first two games of the night, I feel real good hitting shots.
    90:31
    So how much research did you do on boilers? Because you got boilers shockingly accurate. If the steam pressure's too high, that's bad. But if it's too low, that's bad, too. I watched the signing. You watched the signing?
    90:49
    So we have passed 200 viewers. We have not done a giveaway tonight. Zach did do five giveaways. So let do this Carl What a challenge What something that you think Jared and I could get to within the next 30 minutes Maybe it something we already done You haven't played Daisy Bedroom, so why not get some Daisy Bedroom? Purple Room. But you need a key for that, don't you? It's not lit by right off the bat, right? Not necessarily. So right now, if you went to the Twin Dining Rooms and then didn't sprint, then you could use the key to open up the Daisy Bedroom. Okay. Or if you went to the basement, you could do the same thing. Go to the basement, then use the key to open up the basement bedroom. Or play it as your second mode. That's what I've done. I've been to Daisy's bedroom, so I think it's basement first, and then it's just open. So I want to use the key now. No.
    91:41
    Well, no, you did, because you're talking about the basement. Basement first. Yes, yes. Oh, I'm not wrong. Wow. That wasn't what was said. No, I.
    91:52
    Mike, at 44 years old, this is my first football delivery today. Kong Pro from Flippin' Out, watching Carl play Kong. Also inspired by Fick. Absolutely loving it. True. Mike, dude, that's a great first pick. Kong is a fantastic game. Fantastic game.
    92:08
    What does he have? He's in green right now. Is this a... He's in spirit spin. He's in the lower left screen. So he hit the skill shot to max the spirit energy. And then he started the spirit spinner by shooting the spinner. All right. Purple bedroom. And then we're doing a giveaway. Okay. What's great is Zach last week messaged me afterwards. He's like, apparently I gave away something before I got on. What did I give away? I was like, whatever you want, Zach. You can give away whatever you want.
    92:38
    Well, it's like what we say. Zach is very generous. And he'll give away the value of a pinball machine or a value loader.
    92:49
    Guaranteed. Pinball machine or value loader. Now, he's primarily done value-low, but I don't know. So, Carl, with the moving towards the room, is it time or is it shots? It's time. You see on the screen, at the top of the screen? You guys, six seconds left until you get there. So each dot is five seconds.
    93:09
    We've got three, two, one. Okay, so I should be at the room. Now. And now you're saying I use my key.
    93:19
    I said, no, don't use it yet. you have to change the room you're going to use the key to, and I sent you the wrong way because now you've got to go through the basement first. So you see the white arrow, the white dots on the map around the dining room? Yes. So it's currently pointing towards the stance room. So you need to shoot the left ramp, which will change those.
    93:39
    I'm trying to look at it. You should probably just play this mode. Yeah, I will. But you're saying the white... But yeah, so basically the white dots, yeah, that's where you're... Use the key to unlock. It's a seance room. Got it. And then the left ramp rotates the lock pad.
    93:56
    Wow. So you could unlock the basement. But instead... Or the... I need to play the... Just play the mode.
    94:06
    But yeah, just play the mode instead, because the... The daisy bedroom would be the unlockable room after that. That's the furthest. It takes the three closest rooms for your initial free rooms. Anything beyond that will need a key. Okay.
    94:25
    Now, this is the second one of this delicious. Tonight we're enjoying a Peroni Zero. They're delicious and zero alcohol. Good for you. Good job.
    94:37
    Carl, typically upper flipper shots I always flip because I like fun, but there are times on this game where I'm like, leave it alone. Don't put that upper right flipper, or that upper left flipper. That is so much. It's just so fun, though. Hit the spinner. He gave us two up there. Hey, I nailed it.
    95:01
    Flipper, spinner, or the thing next to us. Hey, I nailed it. Oh, we got the horseshoe. Hey, there's a guy. Other horseshoe. I can do this shot. Man, how fast that moves sometimes. Well. Oh, brain.
    95:15
    No, you don't. That's what Carl said. I didn't hear it. Was that Carl's voice? I heard him. That's what he said. I feel like Carl has a deeper. Zero filter. More. Zero.
    95:25
    More thing. Okay. I don't have any. But that's okay. I played the mode. So that was ball one. So coming out of it, that purple room is going to be lit. We're playing that. So I still want to go right.
    95:36
    Or you. No, you can go to the basement. So key. No, use the key. Unlock the basement. Left right. Okay. Left right. So they said horseshoe. And then while you're going to the basement, make sure to collect another key so that you can use it once you're at the basement. So he doesn't, ah, so you're going to have to play it. It's a white door, but it's all 13.
    96:01
    There's your key. Okay. So don't. I got your key already. So left ran. There we go.
    96:11
    Just nail it. Nailed it. Yep. Nailed it. Yep. Little bounce over. There we go. And there it is. Don't run. Don't sprint. Don't run. Don't sprint. One. Don't sprint. So you've got 30 seconds. You've got to survive. Could you trap us for 30 seconds, or do you pause the timer? Right now, no. There's no pausing the timer. And right now, yes, you can. Okay. In the future, you would not want to. In the future, that will unleash an angry spirit into the house. Ooh. And then if you bump into that angry spirit, then you have a spirit battle where you can lose your mode value. Wow. Before you even play the mode. Whatever your next mode is, yeah. You lose the value. Basically, yeah. If the angry spirit comes and you don't get rid of it, you will lose your mode value. You lose your built-up mode value.
    97:03
    Okay. I am. I just did the twin dining room. Now I need to go to the basement, right? So, no. No, I'm activating it.
    97:12
    No, no, you're at the twin dining room. I see it. But you see you've got a white path going to the daisy bedroom, so you can use the key right now to unlock it on the left ramp.
    97:22
    Got it. Got it, got it, got it. Bill Dogg, I'm not allowed to talk about Dune anymore, all right? I got to yell that. You have to talk about Windchurch, okay? That's great. That's such a great game. I'm going to let that go. Okay, far. Where's purple? Oh, okay. Yeah, I got this.
    97:38
    There we go. All right. There you go. And you know what? We're going to sprint our way on to the room.
    97:47
    Now we just got to hit a shot. Hit a shot, Joe. Any one of them. There's a lot lit. Yeah. There's so many blinking lights. That's the heaviest top we've looked for.
    98:00
    That one won't. Let's bounce it over. Good job. Any of that. There we go. Yeah, all right. There you go. There's the purple room. Okay, let's explain the purple room, Carl. All by the hall. Oh, yeah. The left ramp is going to start a hurry up on a random shot. That's going to...
    98:20
    This is where I should ignore everything up there. I see somewhere in the house. You put flippers up there. You have to put them. It's okay. It's all right. It's just... I like the ball saves. Appreciate those. Those are great.
    98:37
    Come on. Show the mood, Joel. Just ignore the score right now. There we go. Okay, there's one. Where is it? It's on the upper loop.
    98:51
    So for me to hit that shot, I basically, what? I got to feed that upper loop. Do the right ramp. Right. Do the right ramp to get up there. And can I change where that shot is, or I time it out, or I just hit stop? It will time out. So there's a hurry up, you'll see in the lower left of the screen that's dropping and dropping. And then at some point you'll hear her scream, which means you lost that one. You can go to the next one. All right. So for Jerry... And then the music gets... So I want to use... No, not yet, not yet. Oh, you're at it. Yes. So now you want to use the... He has to play the basement because he drained during travel. So if you drain during travel, you're locked into that room. Okay. Scoop. Scoop right up the middle. There we go. All right. Spooky time. This is the best. I love this mode. It's right off the bat, Jared.
    99:45
    Rouse me. I touched him. Sorry, Jared. I won't do it again. Hey, nice. Okay, left cramp. Left cramp.
    100:03
    The mode is the best. Look! Here you go. Left ramp. Oh, jeez. It's such a scary... It's such a great mode. It doesn't help when you touch me. I'm also trying to count it off. And I go way too fast. You were trying to count to 16? Well, yeah, I think I was double time on it. I think it's 1, 2, 3... No. Because I was 1, 2, so I need... Oh, I love that mode. Okay, I did the mode. I should do a... Oh, okay. Well, it doesn't matter. After this game, I'll start a... I never ate paste, all right? I was a super boring kindergartner. I just read a lot of books. I read the most books in the kindergarten class. See what it gets you on a pinball stream for some reason.
    101:01
    No, okay. When you're playing it, the back screen, the big red thing going, it does get you, too. I play this game with all the lights off.
    101:12
    It's so immersive. It gets very dark in that mode. Yes. But, yeah, you can still see it. Yeah, you can still see it. It's just difficult.
    101:24
    What am I doing? I should be running to a room. Running. I'm playing the instruments with the captain. Like, this game has a lot of action button action, but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't use the right type of action button.
    101:42
    I don't know if there's an industry term, but it's fun to hit it. You hit it at different times. You don't have to hit it too much.
    101:54
    One of the wizard modes will use it heavily. Oh. They're going to make a mashing button wizard mode? Let's see here. Your sprint is only cost 10. Why are we mashing the button? Do I hit it 40 times to eat pizza? Is there any eating pizza? You're going to add flips with the button. Ooh, lifts.
    102:18
    Oh, I can't. So no eating pizza? No, that's turtles. I play turtles. 40 hits. I'm going to start up Nightbot here. Nightbot. Carl, would you rather us give away a banner or a shooter rod? Which one?
    102:41
    Which one would you rather? Banner's more, I mean, is it choice of shooter rod or is it, the banner seems more universal for me. Let's do banner. Rando banner. Look at that banner, Mike. All right, starting right now. Right now, we're going to play, what do we got? we'll do one more game at the end of this game we're going to do a giveaway and we'll wrap it up so right now all you have to do to enter in for a random banner this is because we hit 200 viewers and we got to the purple room we're going to give away a banner so we're allowed to do this Carl we got one game left what have we not shown besides you know 80% of the game what have we not shown that you would like you went to all the rooms In the game, or we're just back? Okay. I feel better. I feel better that the 13 mode, you know, sure, Eric is giving us 12 webs right off the bat. But besides that, I thought I was, you know, a few summons away from getting that mode. It's not there yet. So I don't feel too bad that I didn't show that off either.
    103:45
    We've shown off, I think we've shown off all the rooms that are in the game. Yeah. Okay, you've shown off all the rooms. you've shown up, you've got the Spirit Spinner, you've gotten the Madness, you've gotten Super Spinner or Spirit Spinner. Yep. Look at us, Joel. You've gotten everything that's in your thing. I guess the only thing would be the 13th summon mode, but again, that's just a, at the end of the 13, it just lights all the shots for additional summons. So, all the internet nerds out there, they're like, they don't show the games. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Carl said we did. And he made this thing. he made every single one of those calls when he's not doing his full job dealing with those kids trying to hack the system restart we gotta make sure the restart of the game works it does work oh it works there's your easter egg oh yeah that's it that's uh here I am holding the left flipper button trying to do home team I'm like so you're probably the same way Like, he just gets so used to doing it, but... Yeah, that restart. Go, go, go, go.
    105:03
    Do you have any... Jeff, have you got the guy to say the word, WAMPS? Is that in the game at all? WAMPS.
    105:15
    You know, that would be a good Easter egg, just to keep... Shoot the WAMPS! Just hide that in there at a one-set of a... We heard the foghorn last stream, right? That was crazy. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Right? Yeah, that was a surprise. That spooked us. That was great. Because sometimes Joel's Alexa just kicks on and says things. Wait, Dirty Pool said, ha-ha, it is. Is WAMPS really a thing?
    105:43
    He's saying, ha-ha, it is. You've got to listen to some more voice calls. Yeah. Hey, I need a full download of all the voice calls so I can sit there and go through them.
    105:57
    All right. What am I doing? I'm going to the basement. Yep. Basement's where all the fun's at. I want to show that off because the fact that the lights come back on is so cool. Okay, so we did confirm tonight that David Van Ness is working. He's on vacation. Paul to the bone. He's on vacation. Carl's already working on it. Because he's a machine. He's just making stuff. Oh, you're saying I'm working on the next thing.
    106:25
    He's awesome. Come on. What's a good Carl question? What do we need to know about Carl right now? Carl, what music were you listening to while you're building this beautiful white one? What were we jamming to?
    106:39
    I listen to mostly soundtracks. Soundtracks? I know Carl listens to a lot of orchestras. So a lot of Lord of the Rings. Oh, yeah. Stuff like that. So the Lord of the Rings is somehow in here. Well, here's where I've got to be honest, and Jared's going to roll his eyes. The best gift that Carl's given me this year. Other than this? It's not this game. Oh. It was forcing me to listen to Dungeon Crawler Carl. He's the reason? He is. Carl's the reason I haven't heard? Don't be shy. Oh, he talks about it. I'm on book seven, Carl.
    107:12
    Joel never reads. I don't read. It's fantastic. I don't read. He never reads. No. Never. And then every time I see him, he's like, I'm reading another book. And he's like, hey, Jared. It's so good, Jared. Have you read it yet? You should read it. It's so good. Because I read it.
    107:27
    It's great. Thank you, Carl. Thank you. Well, he said he was in a book club. He said he was in a book club. No, I'm in a family book club. Yes. I read those. Yeah. Readers are leaders, Joel. Carl, you know what? I will give you some props. You got my brother to read without being forced to read something. Which is good. The Family Book Club, I mean, I do it. Whatever the book is, we've had a huge different range of types of books. It's a range.
    107:55
    But I'm right in there waiting, seeing, do I, in two months it's my turn, do I go Dungeon Crawler Carl, do I show some vulnerability and like, yes, guys, I'm loving this series of seven books in, and I'm literally looking forward to May when book eight comes out. It's May, right, Carl? Yeah, it's May. Do I want to admit that and have my entire wife's side of my family be like, why are you the way you are? Or, I don't know, something else, but I am loving that book.
    108:28
    Loving it so much. I'm going to read it. I'm just reading other stuff right now. Honestly, though, the audiobooks. Yeah, you've got to go to the audiobooks, I think. The audio book is unbelievable.
    108:49
    Start. All right, Jared. Blow out those candles. Nice work. Don't give that to me. There we go. Oh, no.
    109:08
    There we go. Nice. The winds connect the... Oh, you're good? I didn't get the bone. Yeah, that's fine. Thanks to Ross from Humor Trees. New Lord of the Rings audio book. Oh.
    109:28
    Yeah, the Andy Serkis one. That was my last family... The book that I suggested was The Hobbit. Because I was like, I've seen all the Lord of the Rings. I've seen all the Hobbits. I haven't read any of them. So I was like, let's start with The Hobbit. I thought Andy went into the circus. He did an amazing job.
    109:51
    Yes, but I keep getting that one shot. What audio book are we talking about? Dungeon Crawler Carl. That's what we're talking about.
    110:06
    Just redo it again. It's not family friendly. This is so good. Alright. What do I want to do here? Oh, I'm going to the basement. What are we even doing? I'm going to the basement. Why are we even here? I spent that entire ball of money. Hey Carl, what's your big Thanksgiving plans, bud? You cooking a turkey in that kitchen? Chopping a bird out? Just a little bit. Rest. Take a break. Take a rest. I've been playing the game. I started playing... What game? I couldn't hear you. I was in your shop.
    110:42
    I don't play that many games these days, but I just started playing The Drifter. I used to be a big LucasArts and Sierra, you know, the monkey eye.
    110:55
    So, Carl, have you discovered one short eye on YouTube? One short what? One short eye. The dude, he does retrospectives on old point and clicks. You'll love him. He's awesome. I don't even like those games. One short I. Write it down. Yes. You will thank me later, Carl. There's it.
    111:20
    I personally... No, did the spirit get you? It did. I was holding the button down, but I think I held it preemptively. Oh, preemptive spirit. I was like, oh, it's about to happen, and I started to hold the button down, and now I'm realizing it didn't.
    111:35
    You got to not... So it got me. It scared me. It spooked you. It's very spooked. Is there more spooks coming Carl are we gonna get more spooky spooky guys we got we got 98 entries so far So remember all you have to do is comment. We're giving away a banner at the end of the scene
    111:53
    There's more spooky stuff I'm just saying that's the spookiest mode by far. Oh, yeah, oh my goodness
    112:10
    Okay, thank you. It won't be anything as dark as the basement, though. Alright, start spreading. I love that. I love that you put that in the game, Carl. The fact that it's light. Your goal is just to mode hop. Mode to mode to mode. You give us that option. Awesome.
    112:38
    Alright, you got it. If it goes to the show, maybe we can help her. This pimento will give you an extra ball at the finish.
    112:48
    I know it's hard. Okay. So do you have to hit every blue shot to finish it? Yes, all five. And then after that, you have to load the balls on the sand. Ah. So it's a hard mode. The drops come down. You have to hurry up with the higher value. It's to get the game, to get you back into single ball play. Makes sense.
    113:20
    I'm just thinking of that side ramp shot. To feed that, to hit that shot in multi-ball is a challenge. If it's the last one, use your help target.
    113:32
    Is there only one help target or is there other help targets? There's only one help target. One help target. All right, here we go. Final ball, and then we're doing a giveaway.
    113:42
    Then it's turkey time. Actually, then it's Stranger Things time for me. I've got to get home. I need to watch a little bit of this. Do you watch that by yourself? Yeah. Do you think Amy, my beautiful wife, who doesn't watch anything like this, would watch Stranger Things? Go watch it. I got her to watch Dune, all right? We've been married 15 years. She's never seen Blade Runner. We take our victories where we get them.
    114:11
    Come on. And I only bring, okay, internet. I only bring up Blade Runner because it's my favorite movie. Not because of whatever you guys think is going on. You nerds.
    114:26
    What am I doing? For all I know, the next game is Magic Gathering. And just like Carl, they called me and I'm working on a white wood. in my garage for the game because I'm genius. So good. That's why I'm asking him about 3D printing. Eric. Yeah. Why are you doodling? You're doodling on this. No, you know what I figured out on my doodle, Carl? I don't know how to doodle. I was just like, another loop, another loop.
    114:56
    Oh, crap. Oh, man, this is hard. Looks like I designed a fan layout again. I'm telling you though, pinball industry, if you need a seatbelt designed for you, call me. Buckle up. Buckle up, baby. You need to be strapped into this machine, I can figure it out for you. I'll take the health target, which I'll take the health.
    115:19
    Here we go. Too late. There it is. No, Joel. All right, well. Okay. The win for everybody else. I'm sorry, Carl. That game started. Sorry, Carl. Those first two games, I was blowing through stuff, and I was like, things are great. I'm playing great tonight. Here's what happened. The wheels fell off. No, you started listening to the rules and all that. I could see your brain just tingling. There's a lot. Oh, there's so much. Oh, Jared. So next time he sees me, he'll be like, check it out in this mode. I've been playing this game every day. It's awesome. Loving it. Alright, we're going to pull... We're going to give away a banner. We're going to give away a banner here. Give it away, y'all. Give it away, give it away, give it away now. The hit song by Metallica. That. Alright. So, thank you so much to everybody that was here tonight. We're going to give away a banner real quick, then we'll sit by the car and we'll wrap it up and everybody can prepare for Thanksgiving. Or for Stranger Things. Yeah, we love it. We love it. Let's just do it. Let's just give away this banner. Hopefully it's somewhere close. So the winner of the banner is, boom, Toledo. I think we know where this is. Toledo pinball. Germany. Toledo pinball. Is this Toledo, Ohio?
    116:53
    Oh, you're with Australia. Or Toledo, you know, Australia? Toledo, Brazil? Down Under, y'all. Yes. Toledo, you have won a banner. Where are you located? I'm guessing Ohio. Hopefully Joel will tell Zach and let him know where he is. So we are good.
    117:14
    Please reach out to Zach. Z-A-C-H. It's right here. It's right. Nope. I took it off because we put Carl there instead. Z-A-C-H at FlippinOutPimple.com. Reach out to him. Tell him, hey, I won the giveaway. Also, my one-off machine from them. That's great.
    117:30
    This is a great game, Carl. I agree. I agree, yes. I shame that – it's a shame that more people can't own it, but I don't blame you guys for – Nope. I mean, this was a risk. This was a chance that you guys took. It's a smaller theme. It's your first game. It's like, hey, let's shoot for 500, and you guys blew it out of the water. So it's awesome that you sold them, and you sold them out as fast as you did. I just realized you're frozen, but that's on me. there we go you're praising Carl? no I made the thing respectful but yes Carl this game is awesome so whoever if anybody watching got in on one of these you guys made an awesome decision I think you guys are going to really enjoy this game and I know they're going to start shipping soon-ish but obviously there's a lot more that you guys are going to continue to put in this game so hopefully Zach will let us get this game back in a few months when some of these other rooms are put in there so we can dive back into it.
    118:30
    Just missed the Midnight Madness mode. I'm guessing that's not... That was Munsters, guys. Carl, do you have anything else you want to say or anything? The floor is yours, man.
    118:44
    Oh, no. I don't have anything, I think. Yes. Goodbye, Dune. I'm going to get Joel to buy Dune, would you? Yes, please. Carl, Carl, Carl. Thank you, Carl. I know. Something's got to go then, Jared. Something's got to go. You're looking at X-Men. That can go. I know. I know. I hear you. Well, Carl, hey, I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you for not only this game, but also what you've done for this hobby. And keep making the content. Keep making awesome games.
    119:14
    I don't know. I bet you're tired, but we appreciate it. We appreciate it. Got another hour? Got another, yeah, let's go another, let's go another hour. Maybe with Joel. I'm out. I got to go watch Stranger Things. Hey, everybody that's watching, thanks for being here tonight. Everybody have a fantastic Thanksgiving tomorrow. Enjoy your family. Enjoy your friends. Call your mom. Eat some turkey. Play some pinball if you can. You know. If you're outside the U.S. and you're like, what the heck's Thanksgiving?
    119:41
    Hey, enjoy your work day. But be thankful. You can be thankful every day. You can, yeah. We got a lot to be thankful for. This has been an amazing year for pinball. And we're not done. Yeah, we're not done. Hey, everybody have a great week. We will play. We will be here next week. I don't know what, I don't know what we're doing. I don't know if Zach's taking this back. Uh, they did just drop new X-Men code. Maybe it's time to stream X-Men again. Maybe, maybe, uh, Wick, John Wick just got new code. Maybe it'll be time to bring that back in. I don't know. We'll see. You know, Zach surprised us with the Munsters LE. That came out. Munster LE was sick. That was a lot of fun. Carl, what's your opinions on Munsters? it's fun Carl thinks it's fun alright I think you and Carl would say that for most pinball machines hey take the win Carl you know Jared's favorite game of all time big games right big guns what do you think of big guns it's the funniest joke of all time for me and it drives you all insane that's primarily the best game is Dune but anyway we went to Wizard World up in Fort Wayne and they have like 100 plus pinball machines and the game that Jared played the most was Big Guns. Because all he wanted to do was load the cannons. Carl, this was also, hold, okay. This was like three and a half years ago before I was forced to enjoy pinball, okay? So I knew nothing. This was before he was drawing designs on napkins. They're so bad. I'm so bad. The napkin design was Big Guns too, wasn't it? Yeah. Oh, dang it. It wasn't Big Guns. Big Guns set the bar for what Guns and Ballets was Big Guns. All right. Well, we're going to shut it down. Hey, everybody have a great night. Everybody have a great Thanksgiving. Carl, thanks again. Call your mom. Bye. We'll see you guys next week. Bye.