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Episode 350: Homebrews and Other Things NEW at Pinball Expo

Pinball Profile·podcast_episode·37m 0s·analyzed·Nov 5, 2022
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TL;DR

Pinball Profile covers Expo 2022 homebrews and Queen pinball announcement with charity event success.

Summary

Jeff Teolis hosts Pinball Profile Episode 350 from Pinball Expo 2022, featuring interviews with homebrew pinball creators (Jake Danzig's Dukes of Hazzard, Bob Neese's Elf, Coleman Martin's Greek Gods, Mark Siddy's Nightmare Before Christmas) and commercial manufacturers (Pinball Brothers' Queen). The episode highlights the homebrew community's creativity, Pinball Brothers' Queen pinball announcement with band support, and a successful charity event (Flipping the Script) that raised $18,000+ for children's cleft lip diagnosis and treatment.

Key Claims

  • Queen Pinball by Pinball Brothers is targeting end of November shipping with a 6-8 week delay from original September production start due to Ukraine war situation

    high confidence · Rüdiger Beckman states: 'we're really trying to get this thing off the air and we're trying to get the first batches out like end of November probably' and 'It's like six weeks delay we're looking at, or eight weeks maybe.'

  • Flipping the Script charity event raised $18,000+ in grassroots donations, with an anonymous donor covering remaining funds to help 31 children complete cleft lip diagnoses

    high confidence · Scott and Josh describe reaching their goal with an anonymous donor stepping up, and Jeff mentions 'I'm still overwhelmed by the $18,000 that we raised just by the grassroots.'

  • Queen Pinball features live concert recordings rather than studio versions, specifically featuring Freddie Mercury performances at Wembley and other venues

    high confidence · Rüdiger Beckman explains: 'We've had a lot of discussions about this...we chose the live cuts because we know we had HD video of those shows...that absolutely transported the vibe of how people got to know and love Queen'

  • Queen band members Roger Taylor and Brian May provided shout-outs and active support for the pinball machine, sharing promotional posts on band social media platforms

    high confidence · Rüdiger states: 'We've got tremendous support...they volunteer to do shout-outs' and 'I heard Roger, Brian May and Roger Taylor on it...they showed all of our posts'

  • Bob Neese's Elf homebrew took 3 years to complete with the most challenging aspect being the catapult mechanisms for the mini-playfield

    high confidence · Bob states: 'it took me about three years to do it' and 'the hardest part was doing the mechanisms for the catapults for the mini playfield'

Notable Quotes

  • “My favorite section, the homebrew area, the custom pinball machines...it's definitely about the people that come together because a lot of times it's their only show of the year”

    Jeff Teolis @ early in episode — Establishes the core appeal of Expo: community connection and access to rare machines

  • “I kind of made a mistake and posted this up on one of the Dukes of Hazzard sites. My phone has been blowing up with everybody that wants to buy it.”

    Jake Danzig @ Dukes of Hazzard segment — Demonstrates strong collector interest in quality homebrew conversions

  • “An anonymous donor had stepped up in front of the rest of the cash to make sure that these 31 kids can then go in to get their diagnosis finished...Scott and I started tearing up.”

    Josh (Loser Kid co-host) @ Flipping the Script segment — Emotional highlight showing community solidarity around healthcare charity

  • “We chose the live cuts because we know we had HD video of those shows that matched together and that absolutely transported the vibe of how people got to know and love Queen”

    Rüdiger Beckman @ Queen Pinball segment — Explains critical creative decision behind Queen's music licensing strategy

  • “I would never have dreamt. I came into this game late. The license has been there a long time and it has been negotiated.”

    Rüdiger Beckman @ Queen Pinball segment — Reveals complexity of Queen licensing negotiations and Pinball Brothers' involvement

  • “They are very protective of their license...you have to get it through Queen only. So it's difficult, and you've got the band supporting this, wanting to show it.”

    Jeff Teolis @ Queen discussion — Underscores rarity and difficulty of securing Queen IP for pinball

  • “What you've done, quite honestly, has created something that, if you continue, it will only grow...You have seen the support from the pinball community.”

    Jeff Teolis @ Flipping the Script discussion — Validates success of charity model and community mobilization

Entities

Pinball ExpoeventJeff TeolispersonQueen PinballgamePinball BrotherscompanyJake DanzigpersonBob NeesepersonColeman Martinperson

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Flipping the Script charity event demonstrates strong pinball community mobilization for healthcare cause, raising $18,000+ grassroots plus anonymous donor completion funding

    high · Scott and Josh describe emotional culmination with anonymous donor covering final amount; Jeff notes community rally-around and calls it 'life-changing for families'

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    design_philosophy: Queen Pinball uses live concert recordings (Wembley, Freddie Mercury performances) instead of studio versions to preserve authentic concert experience and band legacy

    high · Rüdiger explains: 'We chose the live cuts because we know we had HD video of those shows...that absolutely transported the vibe'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Queen band (Roger Taylor, Brian May) actively involved in pinball project approval, providing shout-outs and social media promotion; band highly protective of IP licensing

    high · Rüdiger discusses band support and Jeff notes Queen's strict licensing control: 'they don't lend out their license. You have to get it through Queen only'

  • $

    market_signal: Homebrew pinball market shows significant growth with 4+ major projects on display at Expo 2022; collector demand evident (Jake Danzig receiving purchase inquiries for custom Dukes conversion)

    high · Multiple homebrew creators at Expo; Jake reports phone 'blowing up' with purchase inquiries; Jeff notes 'it's amazing to see so many new things popping up'

  • ?

    community_signal: Multiple homebrew creators (Mark Siddy, Coleman Martin, Bob Neese) exhibiting at major Expo venue, establishing legitimacy and community recognition for custom machines

Transcript

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0:00
It's time for another Pinball Profile. I'm your host, Jeff Teels. You can find everything on pinballprofile.com. or on Facebook or on Twitter and Instagram at pinballprofile, email pinballprofile at gmail.com. Expo was two weeks ago. I had a great time. Congratulations to Rob Burke, his family, and all the staff that put on a wonderful show. Good to see all the different vendors there, the big pinball companies. But for me, Expo is, it's definitely about the people that come together because a lot of times it's their only show of the year, but it's a chance to see machines you never get to see anywhere else. Could be in the free play area or could be new machines, or could be those incredible homebrews, which is by far my favorite thing of Expo. I spent a lot of time there, and I was able to talk to some of the creators of some of these homebrew games. So here's what they had to say. I say this every year, and I mean this every year. It's the same here in 2022. My favorite section, the homebrew area, the custom pinball machines, and I'm just going down the line. The first one I see here is the Dukes of Hazzard, an old Paragon machine. that's not Paragon, and that's the creative mind of Jake Danzig. Jake, well done on this game. Hey, thank you. Nice to see you. This is gorgeous, too. I know a lot of Duke fans. I showed this to my buddy. He has a General Lee. I think he has, like, an Enos Cop car. I think he's got the Jeep, too. He's a massive collector. I showed him this. He goes, where can I buy it? I go, you can't.
1:45
It would take a pretty penny to buy it away from me. Now, somebody might offer you a pretty penny. There are a lot of Duke fans. There sure are. I kind of made a mistake and posted this up on one of the Dukes of Hazzard sites. My phone has been blowing up with everybody that wants to buy it. I remember being in Nashville, and I can't remember the store, but basically the character who played Cooter on Dukes of Hazzard, he had a little store. And I went in there, and it was everything Dukes you could possibly imagine, except this incredible machine. So tell us how long it took to convert Paragon into the Dukes of Hazzard. Oh, for the most part, about a year, but we've been working on it off and on for about two years, so it's pretty much about 100% right now. Is this the first time you brought it to Expo? Because I think you bring it to Zapcom and things like that. This is the first time at Expo, but this is our fourth event we brought it to. Okay, what were the others?
Mark Siddy
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Rüdiger Beckmanperson
Scott Joshperson
Flipping the Scriptevent
Rob Burkeperson
Electric Bat Arcadevenue
Dukes of Hazzard (homebrew)game
Elf (homebrew)game
Greek Gods (homebrew)game
Nightmare Before Christmas (homebrew)game
Roger Taylorperson
Brian Mayperson
Dane Jureperson

medium · Homebrew section placement at Expo; Jeff's explicit focus on homebrew as 'favorite thing of Expo'; Mark Siddy's Twippy award recognition

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    announcement: Queen Pinball by Pinball Brothers officially shown and playable at Expo 2022 with two editions (Rhapsody and Champions); targeting end-November 2022 production start

    high · Rüdiger Beckman discussing live gameplay, band involvement, and production timeline at Expo showcase

  • ?

    product_strategy: Queen Pinball experiencing 6-8 week production delay from original September 2022 target due to Ukraine war and parts supply chain disruption

    high · Rüdiger states: 'the situation in Ukraine, and so all the parts situation that evolved from that' and 'It's like six weeks delay we're looking at, or eight weeks maybe'

  • ?

    supply_chain_signal: Ukraine war situation creating parts availability and production delays affecting commercial pinball manufacturing (Pinball Brothers' 6-8 week delay)

    high · Rüdiger: 'the situation in Ukraine, and so all the parts situation that evolved from that...people have been crying for gameplay videos for months, and we couldn't get them approved'

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    technology_signal: Greek Gods homebrew demonstrates innovative use of transparent LCD screens as dual playfield viewport technology; thigh-button controls enabling flipper mode switching

    high · Coleman explains transparent LCD monitors that 'flash transparent...and then use it as a viewport to another playfield' and thigh-button control converting flippers to slingshot mode

    • 2:40
    Zapcom, Starfighters Pinball Festival, and we had a public debut in the Electric Bat Arcade. Oh, wow. A lot of great Arizona places there for sure. And I heard that Starfighters are going to be moving their time. It's not going to conflict with Indus, which is great, because I know that's a tournament I'd like to get to. Yeah, that was unfortunate this year. Just the way the calendar fell, yeah. Yeah. We had another event. The ZapCon was taking place, I think it was the same time as MGC. Okay. So we had two conflicting events. But, yeah, I pretty much stay local for the most part, stick around Phoenix. I've got to get to Arizona. I've been many times. I think I've got to get there for some pinball, actually. Yeah, you have to. Absolutely. And Arizona has been exploding with pinball. It seems like almost every month there's a new location opening up.
    3:33
    It's exciting, and it's good to see people like yourself put the time and the effort into this wonderful Dukes of Hazzard game. It's gorgeous. Congratulations, Jake. Thank you very much, but I could not have done it if I didn't have some really wonderful friends. It was basically my idea, but then I had an artist do write that did all the art. And then my two friends, Katie and Olivia Helm. Oh, they're wonderful. They took my idea, and they wanted to expand on it. And I really didn't want to at first, but they twisted my arm, and now it's ten times more than what I had ever imagined. Well, I saw what they did with the black hole. I mean, that is another gorgeous machine. That was one of the machines why I even asked them if they would want to be a part of this. and kind of surprised they said yes because they're both always very busy. They jumped on it, and they changed so much. I couldn't be happier with it. I'm sure it's a highlight at the other shows you're at. It's definitely a fan favorite here at Expo. Jake, congratulations. Thank you very much. Bob Neese from Tampa has brought a gem here to Pinball Expo in Chicago. It is Elf. She can play buddy. Bob, this is great. Thank you. Appreciate it. You a big fan of the movie, or were you looking for some sort of theme? So it was my daughter, my favorite movie. Watch it every year. And when we decided we wanted to build a pinball machine, that was the theme we were going with. There's a mini play field shooting snowballs at Lego targets on Switches. This is incredible. So you hit the little Lego guys, and you see up on the screen. Actually, you didn't hit any. They'll explode when you hit them, just like the Lego movie. The guys explode. Wow. We try to hit all five of them on there for the extra bonus. Very unique game. There's all kinds of things I have not seen before. Of course, the jack-in-the-box. You've got magnets. You've got an Etch-A-Sketch, which will have a video screen. What took the longest on this game for you to make? So the hardest part was doing the mechanisms for the catapults for the mini playfield. Besides that, when I first started designing the playfield, Just designing it out, what shots were going to work best and what weren't. There was multiple things we wanted to incorporate in it, which didn't make it. It's packed. Like, I mean, three flippers, drop targets, stand-ups, U-turns, the toys on this. There's a jack in the box. There's a narwhal. There's a clock there in the back. It's got everything. Have you had people come up to you and say, hey, I really like this game. Maybe we can talk about making this? Yeah, of course I have a lot of people saying that they would buy it. No kidding.
    6:13
    No, it'd be great if someone wanted to make it. I'd love to see it. How many hours have you put into this? Well, it took me about three years to do it, so I don't even want to know the hours. But you must feel good seeing people play it and love it. And I know you're going to be at Freeplay Florida because you're in Tampa, so that's pretty close. Yep, I'll be there. That's what I do it for. I have more fun building them and watching people play them than playing myself. What's your favorite game, I have to ask you, because I'm curious what your inspirations are. Well, I'm a fan of the 90s games and stuff. Circus Voltaire is probably my favorite of all time. Circus Voltaire, that's a fun, unique game, different kind of shooter game. Yeah, so I like the games with the toys. So, you know, obviously the ones with the 90s, you know, hitting stuff and Champion Pub, things like that. So that's kind of why I decided I wanted to have more things in here. I like bashing things more than trying to make shots. But it does have both of them. You've got spinners, you've got bash toys, you've got drop targets, magnets. It's good, and people are going to enjoy this. So if you couldn't be here at Expo, check out Freeplay Florida. Bob Neese, well done. Congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate it. No stranger to Expo, no stranger to the homebrews. In fact, an award-winning homebrew man who's won a Twippy and everything, Mark and Siddy, he created Nightmare Before Christmas. You must love what you're seeing this year. Oh, I love this, yeah. It's amazing to see so many new things popping up. And on Pinside, I know you probably reach out to a lot of people, and it's a neat homebrew community, isn't it? Yeah, it's great. There's a few people here that have helped out with coding and stuff like that, so it's great to be mentioned in their credits and stuff. Oh, like who? Well, for the Greek guys. Okay. Yeah. and even with Bob niece on Elf yeah exactly so yeah so it's great to see all this stuff coming to life it's amazing Elf is an amazing game everything I've been playing is a lot of fun Elf has a lot of toys and gadgets and spinners and this and that I love throwing the snowballs yeah it's a great little feature what a great are you working on anything I mean I might know the answer or not so I don't know whether or not we're allowed to talk about this yeah nothing to talk about nothing But it does have a pelvic thrust button. Oh, yeah.
    8:33
    That's awesome. I'm very much looking forward to that game, and I'm very lucky that I get to come to your place and play Nightmare Before Christmas. Yeah, you'll be one of the first guys to try it out. Awesome. It'll be great. I can hardly wait. I've got to take a jump to the left right now, if that's okay. I'm stepping to the right.
    8:53
    Mark, good to talk to you, buddy. Okay, see you. Coleman Martin is here. He is from Kansas City, and he has brought Greek Gods, a homebrew game, a beautiful game, and very unique, things I have not seen before. Let talk about the underworld which you told me before we started recording was kind of the first thing you developed Explain the underworld of Greek Gods Well I knew I wanted two playfields and I saw these LCD screens that can be rendered transparent So you can use them like a monitor, or you can flash an image that makes it transparent, and then use it as a viewport to another playfield. So to explain for those that are obviously watching this or weren't at Expo, You can see the pictures on Pinball Profile. Basically, when you're playing the game, it's very similar to the screen you would see on something like Kelts by Haggis. But what you're describing is it goes transparent. If you get 30,000 on your score, you are going to get to go to the Underworld and save your soul. On your third ball, if you've got more than 30,000, your soul goes to the Underworld. The monitor that's been giving you prompts and encouragement all through the game, telling you what shots to hit, suddenly flashes transparent, and you see another play field that's been hidden the whole time. And then overlying your ball in the smaller play field are graphics, there are bats flying across, there's flag tights, and it directs you through goals. If you reach them, then you redeem yourself and you get another ball on the main play field. Pretty deep game for a homebrew. A lot of people start off, you know, here's the play field, but you put a lot of thought into this, And I know you've had some help. Mark in City is somebody that you've been chatting with on Bitside. And Scott in EC is a big influence. In fact, you've got the same kind of ball save that TNA has. I have TNA and asked my wife if she wanted a ball save like that. And she said, oh, yeah, that's one of my favorite features of the game. So in it went. Now, the first thing that actually caught my eye is new games have action buttons. This doesn't have an action button. And I use the action button with my big gut. Sometimes I'll just lean over. But this is different. About my left knee, there's this massive big button. Maybe you use your thigh, but there's a button on the coin box, if you will, and that comes into play. Yeah, the experienced players use it a lot. Basically, they lean into the game with their thigh, and the transfers control from the flipper buttons controlling the main flippers to two little slingshots that wrap around a pop bumper in the upper left. So kind of imagine WrestleMania. Exactly. Yeah, perfect. So you convert it with this kind of knee or thigh button. Wow. Coleman, this is awesome. Big LCD screen, and, of course, you mentioned the one on the play field. This is a real treat to bring this to Expo. It's not easy to bring it, especially from Kansas City. It's well worth it, though, for people that have been helping me develop it online for the last three years to get to play it, to hear their feedback in person. It's very rewarding. I'm glad it's here. Three years. It does take a long time. I can only imagine. I mean, you're not under the gun in the sense that it has to be done by a deadline. You pick away at it. What was the biggest stumbling block for you where, you know, things are flying, and all of a sudden, oh, this is slowing me down? Well, I had to start with the mini play field and the monitor over that and then figure out if I mount that to the underside of the main play field, then what can I put around these subways that the player can't see? what kind of shot geometries make sense. I had to take the main play field through a couple iterations before the player could make all the shots. Another thing that came in later was a cage power ball. It's behind two Newton balls, and that controls the main diverter of the game, sending the ball either up the left ramp or the right ramp. And that's been interesting to play with. It's been one of the hardest things to program for, though, because it introduces so much complexity to the ball path. There are a lot of shots. I always look at a game and I look, how many shots are on this flipper? How many shots are on that flipper? And you have a lot. Some games, maybe there's only six shots. There's a lot on here, and you've got the code to back it up. I'm really happy for you. This Greek God is a lot of fun, and I'm trying to do really well. I'm spending my time here because how I knew you were from Kansas City is I saw that Gates barbecue on top and Joe's as well. so you're giving these great barbecue sauces away to whoever have the highest scores. The three highest scores at 6 o'clock on Saturday night go home with a bottle of sauce. I labeled them first place, second place, and third place for Gates, Kansas City Joes, and Arthur Bryants, but people may call me out on that because Kansas Citians are very loyal to their restaurants. Well, let me tell you, I know there's kind of three main ones. I was in Kansas City. It was at Salt State, which is a wonderful place. Playing at Kerry Wing's venue for my pinball profile, played in America Tour. I think I hit gates twice in the two days I was there. That's a terrific place to eat. So you can change the first place. You just put Jeff Teowis on it. I'm just telling you right now, it's coming home to Canada. Thanks very much, Coleman. I really appreciate this. Thank you. Okay, I know I'm spending time talking about Expo and all the games you've never seen before. the homebrews, the customs, queen pinball, and some of these other games we haven't seen before, Bond. But there was something else that was really special at Expo this year. And it's not really game-related, but it's near and dear to a lot of people's hearts. It was an event called Flipping the Script, and it was really put together by Scott Josh from Loser Kid, and he joined me right here. Guys, congratulations. You made your goal. Tell everybody how exciting this is. It was insane. It was crazy. See, there at the end, when we were wrapping up the stream, we got the message. An anonymous donor had stepped up in front of the rest of the cash to make sure that these 31 kids can then go in to get their diagnosis finished. And then insurance would start covering them. Scott and I started tearing up. I had to cover up my face because I was about to start crying. How can you not? Yeah, we were about to start crying on stream. I look at him. He's tearing. I'm like, don't you dare cry on me because I'm going to start crying. So it was amazing. It really was. It really is emotional to think that. Well, one, I would like to thank Josh for organizing this because this is something that has affected him personally and is near and dear to his heart. But so many people were able to rally because everybody has some sort of connection. Oh, yeah. Like everybody I know is like, oh, yeah. No, here's my personal family connection to that. And so everyone was really excited about this. I was so excited with everything that was donated. And we certainly appreciate the angel donor who came in to finish it up. But I'm still overwhelmed by the $18,000 that we raised just by the grassroots.
    15:47
    It shows that there are people who really do want to help people out. So what you've done, quite honestly, has created something that, if you continue, it will only grow. I know it was a lot of work to get to this point, but you have shown the success of this. You talked about the 31 kids that are going to get their diagnosis. You have seen the support from the pinball community. TBN helped out, you were at the Flippin' Out booth, and the sponsors I came through, and there are many. Oh, yeah. This is something I would imagine, and I haven't even asked you, do you want to continue to grow? It's a good possibility. You know, it was funny, two weeks ago someone asked, and I said, don't ask me right now.
    16:25
    But, you know, the hardest part is the first time, right? Yes. We got that under our belt. We know what we're doing if we do this next time, and I'm not opposed to it. We just got to, you know, we're the day after, so I'm still riding on this high. And I would say yes right now, but we'll get it figured out. I would anticipate that we'd do it again. That would be my goal is to keep this going as long as we can because we're able to help all these people who really need it. We all know the challenges with health care and just getting access to the things, especially something that affects children because a lot of children are from young couples and they're not established in their career. they have a they have a limited number of funds and if all those funds are consumed by insurance or or health care then it really devastates them so this is such a great way of saying look you're already dealing with something else let's help you get there it's life-changing for families i don't have to tell you that josh and stuff but it's really special what you've done again i'm proud to call you guys my friends and uh it really was not an easy task i know you made the goal it It wasn't easy what you put together. You made it look easy. And you've got the support from the pinball community and probably opened a lot of eyes as well, too. So thanks very much. And you know what, Josh? Charity aside, helping the 31 kids, let's just be honest. Let's be real for a second here. Okay. This guy, Scott, over here has been going to Guatemala for years and really putting the saint on his head for helping children with cleft lips and donating his time. where you're like, I'm sick and tired of this guy getting all the limelight. I'm going to do something. I agree. Second fiddle all the time. I knew it. It was the boat. It's when me and him got put on the boat and Marty had a save. And you saved him. You saved him because of the charity. I was like, you know what? Oh, you killed me. No, Jeff saved you. Oh, Jeff saved me. I saved you. I can't vote for anybody named Josh not to be second. You know that. That's true, yeah. So now we're going to do round two of the boat, I guess. Okay. Love you guys Thank you very much for what you done And keep up the great work at Loser Kid Thanks Jeff Thank you Jeff Another pinball machine that people haven seen before until they came to Pinball Expo and there are a couple of them here from Pinball Brothers Queen Pinball is here and Rudiger Beckman joins me right now. You have a nice lineup of people wanting to play your beautiful machines. Oh yeah, that's true. People have been waiting for so long for this. You know the forums. Since the announce we made, a lot of things happened that weren't really in our hands, like the situation in Ukraine, and so all the parts situation that evolved from that. And now people have been crying for gameplay videos for months, and we couldn't get them approved, and it was really a messy situation. And now the machine is here, and everything's fine, and we love it. And so do the people. I just played a game on it. I had a lot of fun playing it. It's a beautiful layout, a lot of unique shots. I really don't know what I would describe it as to others. I really can't compare it to anything else, But I kind of thought of maybe a little Game of Thrones. You know how there are different lanes and whatnot. And that's a compliment because that's a fun game. But this is very unique. Lots of great songs. Because I'm a music guy, I want to talk about the songs. I love that they're live because Queen, no one else did what they did live. And especially at Wembley. So this is a good choice. It's true. We've had a lot of discussions about this. Of course, with a band like Queen, I mean, they started in the 70s and they're still going strong. I mean, they released a single two weeks ago. Number one? Yeah, number one in 21 countries. So that's iTunes downloads, not only Spotify or anything. So to have some band that is relevant, so relevant today, that's very rare. And so, of course, we had to honor this commitment to that license because we know a lot of people have been dying to do something with it. And so on a par of the Alien that we did earlier, we wanted to sort of bring that gameplay and that depth, just the fun to that game. And with the live concerts, of course, all the fans, they have their one favorite, and they all ask, why is this not here? You could have 40 songs. There's so many great Queen songs. could have a few songs and and then and then people like well they say under pressure i miss that yeah but that's not queen that's david bowie you talk about the relevance of queen freddie has been gone since it was 90 or 91 and i have seen adam lambert with queen a bunch of times in fact uh with some of my pinball friends an incredible show of course the bohemian rhapsody movie certainly got new generations my son who's 17 it's his favorite band it there's not even a second place it's just Queen is so spectacular and live as well. We've seen a lot of music pins, so Queen was always dangling. I wonder if they can get that. Was this a difficult license to get? Oh, well, of course. I mean, there's so many things involved. I would never have dreamt. I came into this game late. The license has been there a long time and it has been negotiated. And I would like to come back to the live portion of the songs because imagine we would have had studio versions, but most of the gameplay is based on the video portion. With sync. Yeah, exactly. And with a studio, you would always have the artistic impression of a music video to go with it, but that's why we chose the live cuts because we know we had HD video of those shows that matched together and that absolutely transported the vibe of how people got to know and love Queen, which is Freddie Mercury live in concert doing his thing. And that would have been totally lost, or it wouldn't have been as coherent as they are right now. And they're slightly different songs, too. My favorite Queen song, because I've been in radio 30 years, is Radio Gaga. It's one of the songs on here, but I prefer the live song, which is different than the studio version. It's unique how they do that. So it's wonderful that you've captured that. Let's talk about some of the designers of this game. I saw Joe Schober earlier, and I know he's helping out with COVID. Yeah, Kelly was here as well. And actually, right now, we are sort of gathering to tweak out the last perks that we have, the last problems to be solved before we can go into production, which people, they say like, well, you're probably delayed like until mid of next year. No, we're not. We're really trying to get this thing off the air and we're trying to get the first batches out like end of November probably. A good point. You wouldn't be at this show here in October if you weren't close enough to shipping. Certainly not. We are not there yet. Of course not. But we have committed when we announced it in July, We said we would start production in September, and that has, because of the war situation, has been postponed a little, but not that much. It's like six weeks delay we're looking at, or eight weeks maybe. I remember the shock and the excitement when the special shop in England, I think it was in London, opened up, and my friend Mark Silk, who is a talented... I met him earlier. He took a train down from Birmingham to go see it, and at the time you could just see it, but he said, you know, there's something there. and now we actually get to play it. And you've come a long way in a short time. That's true. I was discussing, that's actually when I joined the company, when Queen said, well, we'd like to show it. I think some of us were quite reluctant to show it because we know it would have been an attract mode. It wouldn't have been a gameplay and that's okay. That's what Batman was when it was shown here for the first time ever at Expo. And that got people excited, just as Queen did at that special shop in London. And you said something there that was very interesting. Queen, the band, we're talking Roger Taylor, we're talking Brian May, they wanted to show it. So they must be very excited and helpful with this. Oh, certainly. We've got tremendous support. You know, there is merchandise for a band. There are licenses, and sometimes that's just companies who are doing contracts. But you know that the heart is in it when they volunteer to do shout-outs. Yeah, I know. I heard Roger. Brian May and Roger Taylor on it. And when we did the announcement, there was a bit of timing involved, but they showed all of our posts. They showed on their social media platforms. And as I'm the social media guy, I was dealing with 36 million potential clients. which was a bit frightening, but I think it went down well, and that really attributes to the tremendous success of the legacy that is Queen. I'll tell you something, and I'm speaking to you, the listener. You probably already know this, Rüdiger, but they are very protective of their license. In fact, I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and they have a beautiful shop, and I'm like, can I buy any kind of Queen merchandise? I wanted to buy shirts for my son, who is a big Queen fan. and they say, no, no, no, they don't lend out their license. You have to get it through Queen only. So it's difficult, and you've got the band supporting this, wanting to show it. I think Pinball Brothers would be very, very happy with this. We are here at Expo. Thank you for bringing these. We thank you for all the attention we are getting. I mean, the cues speak for themselves. Some people are a bit reluctant that they can't play a multiplayer game. Some people are reluctant that they can't play three shots. But you're trying to get as many people through, I get it. Exactly, we're just trying to keep the queues low, so everyone have a shot at this game. We now have even two up and running, like not only the Rhapsody, but also the Champions version that is going to come out later next year. And we are so thrilled to show the people the differences, and all the gameplay is the same, though. So whatever version you get, you're going to get that whole package. That's sort of the recipe that we have started with Alien. It really works very well for this kind of intricate gameplay that we're looking at. And it's just heaps of fun. Rudiger Beckman from Pinball Brothers, thank you very much for bringing Queen. I'm looking forward to see how this continues, and I know you're going to have a lot of sales based on this weekend. Thank you very much for having me. It's been a pleasure. Proof once again they will let anybody come to Pinball Expo. Dane Jure, you know her, you love her. Her and Hashman are here from Australia at Pinball Expo. What do you think? Well, I think it's been amazing. See, now I'm just going to go all stupid. But I am having an amazing amount of time and I really enjoying teasing my friends back home who can come Sorry guys I here You not I was not coming I was coming if Marty Robbins was coming my partner in crime from Final Round and he said, you know what, we're too busy building fathoms. I respect that. I didn't decide I was coming until the night before I arrived. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's a bit upset to hear that you were here.
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    He can buy a plane ticket. Get off your wallet, Marty. Come on, 60 cents in the dollar, Marty. who can afford that? You can.
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    Enough about that Marty Robbins guy. We'll save him for final round. But you're having fun? Yeah, it's been a great time. And also, I'm really loving, I played Queen. I really enjoyed Queen, actually. There's so much here. I mean, certainly any new game that has come out, Stern's got a big display, Jersey Jack, American. Dave ripped it up on Bond last night. Right before the lights went off, he was playing, playing, playing. Lights were going off and he got himself a grand champion on the game he was playing. Yeah, they put in tilt-bobs today, so that might change things.
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    Anyway. Sorry, Dave. It is fun, yeah. I know our Aussie friends and Marty and Ryan and all the others would love to be here, but Mr. Osborne is here from Sydney. We've seen Rodan. Yes, we have. And he's just like, hey, Dave, hey, Ray. We'll see you. He's very busy. He's socializing. We're all socializing. But it's just, yeah, it's been fun. But see, that's what I love about when the Australians come. And again, Marty, this could have been you, but Robin's got Tim Tams. He's got little koala bears. If I'm thirsty, I'm pretty sure I can come to you or Dave for a possible drink. We will absolutely have a drink. See? I mean, come on. That's why we love Australians. Who's thirsty? I'm not thirsty. I have my friend Rambo. Shout out to Rambo, who actually bought me a water bottle that I have filled up with salsa. so very nice really very very nice the only thing you're missing is like two more arms you double fisted but you could go for it i could definitely go for you need a holster i am i am dave's refrigerator yeah i'm pretty sure that i am his refrigerator well you know what that looks heavy i might take that off yeah all right raylene great to see you great to see you too jeff we just talked to danger ray oh look at this hash man dave what's up buddy uh the usual just walking around. I've been told not to swear. It is the first rule of Bimbal Bro-Bowl. That's okay. That's all right. Having a ball. Having a great time. And you've never been here before? I went to the 2016 with Ryan. You did? Yes. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was a late, two days before Expo, Ryan decided he wanted to come. I'm like, well, can I come? Isn't that funny? Yeah, yeah. We had a ball. And you're the guy who got him into bimbaling. Well, he used to come to my house and not want to. He hated the modern Stearns. He said, oh my god, not interested. I want to play the Bally Williams. Do you know why? Because he used to listen to Slam Tilt, and he still does, listen to the Slam Tilt podcast all the time, and those guys would talk about the old Stearns and the old Bally games, and Marty would tell him that too, and now look at him. I know. First in line for the LEs. Absolutely. Exactly. So, he's a changed man. Well, I sold him his first one, which was Indiana Jones. The Williams-Indiana Jones. And without saying, I know how influential that game and name is. to himself. Well, it was, and of course I sold it to him for what I paid for it, which was my first mistake. Big mistake. Yeah, after I'd fixed it, replaced this, replaced that, and yeah, that was the start. Here's how ungrateful that Ryan is, alright? And I love Ryan, but, you know, you get him into pinball, he steals Indiana Jones off you. Yeah, absolutely. He wants to have the Victorian Championship at your lovely place, which we can see on Melbourne Silver Bowl. Yes, he knows. But your place has one slight problem. According to Ryan, there's some glare on the machine, so he wants to climb up and change some lighting. Like, come on! Which I can actually imagine him doing that, because where we are is a lot of moss, and it's very slippery, and I'm thinking, what happens to the tournament director if he slips off, breaks an elbow, breaks his neck? We're talking a ceiling, and he's like 5'3 at best. Look, he's nimble, though, so I can see him getting up there. Look, if he can do it and not break his neck, I'm absolutely up for it. But, yeah, the glare is horrendous. to Raylene and I, it doesn't matter because we play so badly anyway. Sometimes the glare is a good thing. It's like, oh, damn glare. If it wasn't for the glare. It's an excuse. It is. It's a perfect excuse. Built-in excuse. Exactly. And we need every excuse possible. If you've seen Raylene and I play, any excuse is a good idea. Well, that's what I like about the stream because there are a lot of different pinball streams. I know you've been doing this since COVID. So it's been a couple of years now. But you play pinball, but you chat. And what's nice for you and Raylene coming here is you're getting to see people that you have been chatting with for a long time. Absolutely, absolutely. The first people that we met here were Beck and George from the Hub Challenge. Oh, what a great, great thing. And just seeing them in real life, it was nearly surreal to start. Because you feel like you know them. Exactly. And it was like, oh, my God, they're actually 3D. It's real. Can I touch you? And then Jordan said, please don't stop touching me inappropriate like that. Please move along. And then, of course, yeah. And then you stumble on this guy who wants to talk to you on a podcast. I know. Yes. Tells me I'm not allowed to swear, which is a fair call. And I think I'm doing reasonably well. We better get out before something gets out of hand here, all right? I think so as well. Yeah. Great seeing you, Dave. It is lovely. Love you, seeing you, Dave. And no swearing. Thank you.
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    Unfortunately, I didn't get to the creator of this incredible homebrew game. His name is Robert Anderson. but I'm here with somebody who said it was his favorite thing in all of Expo, and he might know a thing or two about pinball and playing well. His name is Carl D'Angelo. You know him. You love him from IE Pinball. Don't forget to sign up for Indisc in January. Carl, what is the game we're talking about? It's Daikaiju, I think is what it's called. And it had three spinners and kind of like a Spanish-ized bottom pop bumper layout. I played it with you. It was a blast. It was an absolute blast. Yeah, it combined a lot of classic Stern elements, like it had stars targets to advance the spinner values. It had see-with-drop targets, bonus multipliers. It had a nine-ball spinner on the right. It had a multi-ball also on top of all that. But the layout and the Spanish-ized bottom really gave it a dynamic feel. And it was brutal, absolutely brutal, but so much fun. Here you are playing the flip-out tournament, but every chance you had, I saw you over there playing it. I think every single day. I think you might have taken a dollar or two off me, you son of a gun. And, I mean, congratulations. But that was so unique. And for me, Expo is the homebrew section. There's a lot to see. It was a great Expo this year, but that homebrew was something unique. And I don't think you were here last year, so your thoughts. Yeah, I mean, I bought my Expo pass so I could see the homebrew section. Because I enjoyed it. Those are the games I wanted to see here. Because you see everything else at all the other shows. Even the newer games. You'll play them eventually. But the homebrews, this may be the only opportunity to play them. So, you know what it kind of reminded me of? And I wasn't here, but when I hear the stories of when Scott Denise brought the whitewood for TNA and people were like blown away, like, holy cow, that is fun. Because this was just, you know, this was just plywood. There was no art on it. There was a little bit of back glass, no real animations. But there were rules. There were shots. Everything was working well. It shot well. Do you kind of get that feeling like, oh, wow, is this the next TNA? A little bit, definitely. It seemed fleshed out, even with the basic ruleset. But at the same time, with the Spanish-ized bottom, I wonder if a manufacturer would take a risk on that. It's not an Italian bottom. So, last game. Why not? Last game we saw it like that. I mean, Rick and Morty had the pop number on the left. But apart from that, Wheel of Fortune was the last time we saw a departure. Well, I was going to say, I'm not a huge Wheel of Fortune fan. But it is unique. And you can certainly nudge those double lanes in the middle there and have some fun on the sides with whatever the free spin is. I hope somebody does take a chance on this. Yeah, I hope so, too. I'd probably pick one up, to be honest, because it was such a fun time. Carl, I'm glad you had a good time in Chicago. Whatever may have happened, I'm keeping the lips sealed here, but it looks like you had a good trip. And thanks for stopping by to talk about this great game from Robert Anderson. Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate it. So if you've never been to Pinball Expo, maybe you just got a glimpse of some of the incredible things you can see. Of course, there were the new games. You got to see Bond. You got to see Queen. You got to play Toy Story 4. There was the classic version of Legends of Valhalla. Spooky Pinball was there. There was a Fathom Machine, Weird Al. You name it, it was at Expo. So maybe next time you go, you'll be seeing a game that, who knows, could be turned into mass production in one of these homebrews. Had a lot of fun and look forward to it in 2023. This has been your Pinball Profile. You can find everything on pinballprofile.com. Check out our Facebook group. We're on Twitter and Instagram at pinballprofile. Look for the Pinball Profile Played in America Tour coming November 17th, right before Freeplay Florida at the Pinball Lounge. And, of course, you can email pinballprofile at gmail.com. I'm Jeff Teolas.