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Episode 141 – 4 For 4

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Feb 26, 2020
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt discusses Pinberg ticketing, new Stern games, and UV lighting controversy for Stranger Things.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss Pinberg ticket acquisition, Keith Elwin's Jurassic Park wizard mode interview, upcoming Stern releases (Rick and Morty, Stranger Things, Heavy Metal), the Stranger Things UV lighting controversy, and recent game acquisitions including Firepower and an unnamed classic Pinball title. They also address Silver Ball Chronicles podcast growth and venue updates for the Silver Ball Saloon.

Key Claims

  • Keith Elwin donated 40+ games to ReplayFX, allowing him to bypass virtual line queue for tickets

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing ReplayFX donation policy and Keith Elwin's donation status

  • Jurassic Park feature complete code (1.0) has a hidden super secret skill shot that no one has found yet

    high confidence · Bruce describing Keith Elwin interview on Loser Kid Pinball Podcast about Jurassic Park code updates

  • Heavy Metal home edition will cost over $8,000

    medium confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Heavy Metal Pinball pricing from promotional flyer

  • Stranger Things UV lighting kit requires separate purchase and aftermarket installation rather than factory installation

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Stranger Things UV lighting controversy and installation costs

  • Tron LE software cannot be installed on a Tron Pro model

    medium confidence · Ron discussing Tron LE/Pro software differences, mentions there is 'a way' to do it

  • Black Knight Sword of Rage topper costs $449, compared to Star Wars topper at $750

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Stern topper pricing

  • Rick and Morty has mechanical issues with left ramp and side orbit shots that are difficult to hit

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing observed issues from watching Rick and Morty stream footage

  • Stranger Things playfields have hidden artwork visible only with UV lighting kit, planned from the start

    high confidence · Ron describing Stranger Things UV lighting feature as intentional design

Notable Quotes

  • “So every one of those people you're playing with has listened to our podcast. Wow. Think about that. Wow.”

    Ron Hallett @ mid-episode discussion — Reflects on the correlation between Slam Tilt podcast listenership and Pinberg participation, suggesting deep community penetration

  • “The fact they did it right from the start, they obviously knew. Yeah. I mean, people are gonna see that lighting and go, ooh, gotta have it, gotta have it, bye.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ Stranger Things UV lighting discussion — Expresses skepticism about Stranger Things UV lighting being positioned as optional rather than standard feature

  • “It's Rick and Morty. I put it... Yeah, exactly. I put it with Simpsons Pinball Party. That game is a clunkfest. That is clunkasaurus rex, that game. And everyone loves that game. Because of the theme and the software.”

    Ron Hallett @ Rick and Morty discussion — Acknowledges that theme and software can overcome mechanical/playfield design issues

  • “I'm worried more about things like code updates. Oh, you want to unlock this feature of the game? More money. I can see that happening.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ Stranger Things UV lighting discussion — Expresses concern about potential future monetization of code features

  • “Every time I play it, I enjoy it more.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ Firepower discussion — Positive assessment of classic Firepower gameplay

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonKeith ElwinpersonKen CromwellpersonKeith EastmanpersonLoser Kid Pinball PodcastorganizationSlam Tilt PodcastorganizationSilver Ball ChroniclesorganizationSilver Ball Saloonvenue

Signals

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    code_update: Jurassic Park 1.0 code released and marked feature complete, includes hidden super secret skill shot not yet discovered by community

    high · Bruce: 'the new code just came out for 1.0. Yep, it is now feature complete' and 'there's another skill shot, and no one's found it yet'

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    product_concern: Rick and Morty exhibits persistent left ramp and side orbit shot mechanical issues; left ramp requires 'flood of steam' to make, side orbit extremely difficult, side flipper requires precise tip hit

    high · Both hosts describe from stream viewing: 'The left side of the playfield...The left ramp, basically if you don't hit it with a flood of steam, it's not going up' and 'side flipper, you gotta hit right on the tip'

  • ?

    product_strategy: Stranger Things UV lighting kit positioned as optional $245-275 add-on rather than factory-installed feature, perceived as cash grab despite being planned from start

    high · Ron: 'They're trying for everything...Charge me to $245 or to $275. It could have been installed at the factory, no issues'; Bruce: 'It's a cash grab. The fact they did it right from the start, they obviously knew'

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    market_signal: Stern toppers show significant price variance; Black Knight Sword of Rage topper $449 vs Star Wars topper $750, making BKSOR more enticing value proposition

    high · Ron and Bruce discussing topper pricing comparison

  • ?

    venue_signal: Silver Ball Saloon acquiring three new games requiring simultaneous removal of three existing games; rotation driven by cash box earnings

Transcript

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Welcome, butthead. Welcome, Beavis. I'm Dr. Steve. The other members of our group were just telling us a bit about why they're here. Hi, my name is Joe and I'm an alcoholic. And last week I spent my whole paycheck on booze. Whoa! Yeah! Alright! Do you have any left?
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Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host Ron Hallett here with my co-host Bruce Nightingale. Hey, do you have any limes? Do I have any limes? No, I do have any limes. For coronavirus? Oh, so you're going to start with a virus joke? Yes, of course. The lowest possible level. Of course. That's Bruce, folks. It hasn't killed as many people as it has the regular flu, so until it does that, The pinball show is a production of the Center for Autism and Related Disorders, the Center for Autism and Related Disorders, and the Center for Autism and Related Disorders. For more information, visit www.centerforautism.org, or call 1-866-422-4222. It's not like your other podcast. Oh, my other podcast, Silverball Chronicles? Yeah! One of the most liked new podcasts on the Pinball Network. Really? Yeah. Is it? Mm-hmm. It is. We got a shout out on the Pinball Show and everything. Wow. And there's two more pinball machines made after Atari that you didn't mention. Made after Atari? You mean made after Super Mario? After Hercules. Okay, after Hercules. Which were? Four by four? Uh-huh. Roadrunner. Yeah. Were they production games, Bruce? They were right- they were slated to. Yeah, yeah, they were slated to, but they were not. They actually had- serial numbers were in order for all Ataris. So they were slated to until Atari closed it. So you're gonna say Big Bang Bar was not a production game? Oh, it wasn't. It wasn't a production game at all. But they made more of them than anyone else. They didn't make anything. Well, they made ten. Gene Cunningham did. They made ten or twelve. And he bought Capcom, so guess what? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. He bought Capcom. Okay, okay, listeners. Is Big Bang Bar a production game? No. Is Kingpin a production game? No. Well, now, actually, it could be. They were called prototypes. But guess what? If Gene Cunningham bought Capcom, he bought all the assets, all the rights and everything else, and then released the game, it is then a production game. Okay, Bruce. It is. Yes, not by Capcom. He owns the rights to Capcom. He doesn't own the rights to Capcom. He owns the rights to the Capcom pinball stuff. He can't make Street Fighter games. That'd be fucking sweet. Oh, Jesus. Gene Cunningham, fight! Alright, uh, let's see. But, uh, no, congratulations on your show, Ron. Thank you. Congratulations. Because Bruce is the one who actually, when we were recording again. Yeah, because I had a free- C Bar),, Kathy is in Florida. Ah, so you had a free Monday to be with me. And the dog. The dog's right next to me. Hi, dog. How's Lady Di going? Uh, we renamed her. Oh, you renamed, it's not Lady Di anymore. Okay, what's the new name? Missy. What's that? Missy. M-I-S-S-Y. Missy. Okay. She has a little miss. Yeah, you remember Dusty, of course. My first dog was named Dusty, that me and Kathy had, Idavoid клAKI.n andически dışy to Stampcenter let you The week was fine. If you mean last week. Yeah, actually two weeks. Let's have an immediate correction. We were talking about toppers. Yes. Last week, Rick and Morty has a topper that's coming with all the games and we were asking what was the last production game to come with a topper from the factory. And we were pretty confident in our pick of, do you remember? Judge Dredd. It was Williams. Judge Dredd. We've had several people remind us, uh, hey Ron. You own it. You own this game. And that would be TNA. Yeah. You know, honestly, I don't know if I ever considered the beacon a topper, but I guess it is. It is, but I don't consider it. But it's topper. It's topper. It's on top of the game. And it's factory. It is factory. So what do we got going on? Let's look at the news. Let's bring up the news from This Week in Pinball. Hi, Jeff. Hi, Jeff. How we doing? Keith Elwin interview, the Loser Kid Pinball Podcast. Did you hear any of that? No, I did not, but I heard there's a little controversy about Keith Elwin. Oh, God. What's the controversy about Keith Elwin? He does not have to do what all 999 of us had to do. No, that's not correct. 978. Okay, sorry. 978 people had to do. And what is that, Bruce? Knapp, Franchihales, stand in virtual line for pinball tickets. Why is that? Because he donates games to ReplayFX and other people do and services and time and everything like that and they give out 22 free passes. A lot of those are the satellite events. Yes. So you have to subtract the satellite events and whatever's left over are the ones that are given out. Knapp, and Keith donates 21 games to ReplayFX, which is a great thing. It said 40 plus in the post I saw. Oh, 40 I thought it was. Yeah. Okay, so, okay, 40 plus, but still a great thing, and that's why he does not have to get in virtual line like the rest of us. So does that mean if I donate, like if we donate all our games, we could get, hmm. Yeah, see? I don't think I'd do that. Let's see, what don't they have? They don't have a Stargazer there. You guys need a Stargazer? They don't have a Gammatron. They don't have a Gammatron. They do have a catacomb. They do have a catacomb. They don't have a dragon fist. No, they do not. They need a dragon fist. They can have two dragon fists. Well, since you've totally went off the rails there and changed stuff as usual. Way off the rails like I always do. Okay, let's first talk about Keith's interview. Did you hear it? Yes, I did. And? It was a good interview. Give us a synopsis. Most of it, of course, is about Jurassic Park. In wizard mode, the fact that it's a speedrun, or you can do it as a speedrun or points, I guess that had been an idea to do this ever since the Ghostbusters. Because Ghostbusters did the, what is it, Are You a God? Yeah, Are You a God, yes. So you have this thing that's accessible, you want it accessible though, you just hold the buttons in and you have the option to play this. Aaron Porco, Pinball iTouch teamsَ26 tahunَّ workoutpants capacities are Underive, understandally own The A whole different timed game. Which is really cool. I would rather see kind of like that. Like if you played, I don't know how you would do it, or if you maybe got a certain goal in the machine, or a couple goals in the machine, like you maybe if you had one of four goals in the machine, then the next game, you would be able to do that then. You know, then you would have the special mode to be able to go into like, maybe that way. Eh, I don't mind it at all. I have no problem with it. Because you never get to it. Uh, well, now, now, see, he explained, the Escape Nublar is a mode that some people will get to, but it's not the Final Wizard mode. No, I know. Final Wizard mode is when dinosaurs rule the Earth, I think it's called, which hardly anyone will ever see. Yeah. So I have, I have no problems with it. No problems at all. That's good. Uh, now, the new code just came out for 1.0. Yep, it is now feature complete. Yes, and there's a special, what, super secret skill shot, I think, or something like that, that he says if you fall upon, or whatever you gotta do, it'll fall upon it and you'll get, he's asking people if they can say what it is, and no one's gotten it yet, so we don't know what's going on. Oh, okay, I just got what you meant there. Yes, on the show he said, yeah, there's another skill shot, and no one's found it yet. Nope, no one's found it yet, so. Let's see, what else do we got here? C Barcomfort, heavy metal pinball. Uh... Uh, you don't sound very excited. Not at all. No, I'm not. I'm confused, because this is the same heavy metal that the movie came out, right? Yes, yes. The 1981 movie. Yes. With a shit ton of nudity. Yes, and great music. But is that something Stern wants to be making? I'm confused. Unless Heavy Metal Magazine has changed. It has not a little, it has a little bit but not a lot, but they hired them to do it, so guess what? Who cares? And it's gonna be one of those, it's gonna be a Star Wars, the Star Wars Home Edition. Mm-hmm. But it's supposedly like $8,000. Over $8,000. Over $8,000 for a home pin. The flyer that has been out there shows it as having a DMD. Yes. Which is just weird. Yeah, so... Yeah. I don't get it. But the interesting thing is the editor and publisher of Heavy Metal Magazine, Keith Eastman, he's also the co-creator of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Coincidence? I don't think so. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutants in a half-shell, turtle power. I don't remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at all. I didn't watch it. My sister did when I was younger, but I only remember it was in front of the pinball machine. Well, you were 30 already at that time. Yeah, exactly. You were only 29. Yep, only 29. No, 28. No. 28, get it right. So you were saying about Pinberg? Yeah, what did you do this Saturday? I was on a phone call with you. Oh my, what was that all about? I'll let you explain it and I'll fill in some blanks. Well we had a four-way call. Oh my. Very nice. We had a four-way call because remember I have to get two tickets, me and my dad, and you could get five tickets at a time. Yes. So the theory was we get on a call, all four of us try to get the tickets and if one or two of us gets in, Puts all our information in, goes through, and we're golden, right? Yep, totally agree. Well, a weird thing happened. Very weird. All four of us got in. Yes. All four of us. So we had one person entering all the information for the five names. Mm-hmm. You know, submit it, got the receipt, double checked it, made sure everything was cool. Yep. Then we just put the shout out, like, who didn't get in? And we forgot one person. Oh, oh well. We did. I'm sorry JT. Sorry JT. But we got five, right? We did get five. Yep. We got five and they have to pay you now. Yeah, I've already gotten paid for two. Actually three. I've gotten paid for three already. Me and the fourth person just let it time out. Yep. And that was it. That was it but we did it. We got in. We did it. I feel that like that's the worst part of Pinball. It is. That is the most stressful part of Pinball. Yeah. Out Pinballduct? We beat round zero. Hi Steve. If Steve Bowne called it round zero, we passed round zero pinball. Yes we did. So that is exciting. Yes, so you got your hotel room and everything? Yeah, I already had that. Me too. The only thing I got to worry about for the rest of the year is the sanctum, 24 hour. That's the other have to get in within a second or two or I'm screwed. Yep. So we'll see how that goes. Totally agree. It'll be fun. You know what was fun? What was that? The waitlist. Yeah, that was a clusterfuck, but... Here's the thing, here's the thing. Well, the problem I have is, it said it on the website. It said it on the ticket thing. Okay, okay, a little background for people who don't... yes, it said it. On the website, it said that the waitlist begins at 1pm. Yes. The If you didn't get in at 12 The option to be put on the waitlist was there So people just put themselves on the waitlist And it didn't get flushed like they said it was going to be Oh, they didn't do that? No! What happened was Is after one o'clock People found out like, oh I have to re-put in and try to use the same email And it wouldn't do it because it said, oh you already have your email Yeah, well they didn't flush, yeah, but I think they flushed If you were in the waitlist between 12 and 1, it didn't count. Yes. But it didn't take it away either. Yeah, it didn't take it away. So if you tried to get in with the same email, it told you, no, you can't do that. Yeah. So you kind of were screwed two ways. So you hopefully had a second email account and it was just a big clusterfuck. But people didn't read. That was the problem. And of course, we heard the same thing, that people didn't read about the tickets going on, you know, all the things that were on the tickets like, ooh, I clicked the wrong one, I did this. Yes. What they could have done, which I thought they did pretty well this year was, they actually had three groups. They had registration for, for Pinberg and all the other competitions. They had a registration for Replay FX on another page, another complete different page. And then they had something else. But I would, I wish they didn't do at exactly 12 o'clock Eastern Standard Time on the 21, whatever day it was, the 22nd. The All the other stuff on there That was really free. I disagree. You know why well hi I think that's why we got our tickets for those who don't know what it looks like You go to the site at 12 it loads and you'll see the very first item is pin bird Yes, then there's a shit ton like a 20 other items You have to put your number in there and scroll really fast to the bottom to the submit The cup of thisнойpod is free, you just fill up The Yes, they have a ton of other things on the page and you have to scroll down and then there's the second page that asked for delivery option Which I'm thinking that that because I always get stuck there and I got my ticket anyway I think it's the initial first button you hit that puts it in queue the first submit. Oh, it is the first first submit Yeah, it's not like you could screw up the second part which I've done two years in a row now Yes, because I asked for delivery options either mobile or paper PPO, Comment note that you can get paid withrandoivitiesancountablaze.com To restate the obscene ärtорм cards, there sold nearly 20 The following is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is coincidental and unintentional.
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high · Ron: 'I think there's going to be three new games coming in. So that means three go bye-bye' and 'I'm gonna be doing...whatever's earning the least' and 'The poll is always the cash box'

  • ?

    event_signal: Pinberg 2024 virtual queue had technical/UX issues; waitlist appeared before designated 1pm start, prevented same-email re-entry, required workarounds with multiple email accounts, last tickets sold at 12:33pm suggesting tickets re-entered circulation

    high · Detailed discussion of waitlist appearing at 12pm instead of 1pm, email blocking, and tickets becoming available again up to 12:33pm

  • ?

    content_signal: Silver Ball Chronicles receiving recognition as one of most-liked new podcasts on Pinball Network, receiving shout-out on The Pinball Show

    high · Ron and Bruce discussing Silver Ball Chronicles receiving recognition; 'We got a shout out on The Pinball Show and everything'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Jurassic Park features dual wizard mode paths (speedrun option vs points) inspired by Ghostbusters Are You a God mechanic; accessible via button hold, with separate hidden skill shot mechanic

    high · Bruce describing Keith Elwin interview: 'the fact that it's a speedrun, or you can do it as a speedrun or points, I guess that had been an idea to do this ever since Ghostbusters'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Stranger Things designed with emphasis on flow and ramp shots returning to predictable flippers; compared favorably to AFM mid-lock return shot mechanic

    medium · Bruce: 'It's got a lot of flow...I like the outer shot, the left outer loop shot that goes all the way around. It's like the middle lock shot for AFM'

  • ?

    industry_signal: Community concern that UV lighting precedent could lead to more code-based monetization ('You want to unlock this feature of the game? More money') and potential hobbyist hacking/piracy of locked features

    medium · Bruce: 'I'm worried more about things like code updates. Oh, you want to unlock this feature of the game? More money' and 'I can see the hobbyists, especially the smart ones, hacking all that shit and just giving it out'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: Stern pursuing Heavy Metal (1981 film/magazine IP) licensing; Keith Eastman (Heavy Metal editor/TMNT co-creator) involved in game creation; home edition format similar to Star Wars Home Edition

    medium · Ron and Bruce discussing Heavy Metal licensing: 'this is the same Heavy Metal that the movie came out, right? Yes, yes. The 1981 movie' and 'the editor and publisher of Heavy Metal Magazine, Keith Eastman, he's also the co-creator of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'

  • ?

    regulatory_signal: ReplayFX ticket distribution policy provides free passes to major donors (40+ games donation), allowing bypass of standard virtual queue, raising equity questions

    high · Discussion of Keith Elwin not having to do virtual line due to 40+ game donations to ReplayFX, with 22 free passes distributed among donors

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    The only thing they might have been able to do is put something on there that says the waitlist will appear at 12, but it's not actually the waitlist. Don't get on the waitlist to watch. That was a screw up on their side. I say that. That the only thing they could have done and I guessing there probably something because they using show clicks and there probably something with show clicks that they can do it They can lock people out of the waitlist for an hour and then open it up again like it tickets I guarantee you it something with the website And the other thing is if you didn get in right away and you stayed there and kept loading they became available again Oh yes, the last ticket sold at 1233. Mm-hmm. So you kept on hitting that at five, you might have gotten it. Which I think, wasn't that a difference from last year? I thought they didn't do that last year. No. And the year before that they did do it. Yes. I remember they did. It seemed like a switch. Like two years ago they did do that and then last year they specifically said we're not doing that, they're not going to go back in the queue. Mm-hmm. And then this year they were back in the queue, so that was interesting. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. We're in. We have not missed one. Me and Ron. Well, the originals. We haven't been to the originals in the 90s. No, no, no. But I'm talking about since it came out after the what was the one they had the dogs. Uh, what was it? The one with the dogs? They had, it emerged, it eventually came from PinBerg. It was the one where they were donating all the money for pinball. You mean Cupid's and Canines? Thank you. Yeah. That's the one. Yes, that's the one. Yeah, the first one was 2011. Yes. Wow. You're old. Okay. Yeah, you're old. 2011, who won Pinberg C division that year? Oh, that was me. That was me. Just saying. Let's pat myself on the back a couple times. Yes, Ron. There was like 20 people who played in Pinberg that year, so impressive. Very impressive. 154. Oh, it doesn't sound very impressive, does it? No, it doesn't want to say 154. Well, here's one for you, Bruce. Think about this. Think about this. Our highest rated episodes are the Clustervox. Mm-hmm. The amount of people who listen to our Clustervox equals the amount of people in Pinball. Think about that. So every one of those people you're playing with has listened to our podcast. Wow. Think about that. Wow. Mm. Remarkable. You don't remember that from, uh... Oh, it was probably before your time. Oh yeah. Yeah, Little Rascals. Remarkable. That's before your time, that's like the 30s. Well you say I'm fucking old, so what the hell? Wow, 30s? I didn't think you were that old. How old are you again? Well, I'm old. Alright. So that was Pinball. Four for four, baby. Gotta love it. There was another Rick and Morty stream. Yes it was! Did you watch it? I watched a little bit of it. I watched it too. And? Uh... Same impressions as last time. Clunky. The left side of the playfield. Yeah, it's very clunky. The left ramp, basically if you don't hit it with a flood of steam, it's not going up. No. The only positive thing about that I'll say is at least it doesn't go right down the middle. It doesn't go like half up the ramp and then drain. So that's nice. The leftmost orbit that leads to the garage, again, extremely difficult to hit. Side flipper, you gotta hit right on the tip and hope it has enough momentum to get up there. I agree. But the biggest issue is that side orbit shot. Yeah, but it's out in the wild. The thing is though, it looked the same. One of three things would happen when you shot this shot. Oto The
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    spécial guard Perhaps the Pinball It was weird. They would hit the shot and it would look like it was going to go all the way around. It looked like it was hit good. It would get to the top and then just stop and then die and then come back. Yep. It's just weird. But people actually are saying on the occasion, it's a fun game. So... Oh yeah. I don't think that really matters. It's Rick and Morty. I put it... Yeah, exactly. I put it with Simpson's Pinball Party. Mm-hmm. That game is a clunkfest. That is clunkasaurus rex, that game. And everyone loves that game. Because of the theme and the software. Yes. So it doesn't matter if you have a side ramp you can't hit. It doesn't matter if it's clunky as hell. It's the same thing. It's great. I can hit mine all the time. You can hit yours all the time. Okay, wait a minute. Where's yours? I sold it. Yeah, there you go. It's up at, it's in Canada. Yay. Eh? Yay. Some hoserhead on the TPN network has it also. I hate that game. I know you do. I don't think it will matter. It's going to have a killer light show, it's going to have killer callouts. Some of the things they're doing with the dimensions sound cool. There's going to be a TNA dimension where all of a sudden the ramps don't do anything because in TNA there are no ramps. There are no ramps. It's going to do the TNA thing. I'm sure it's going to be awesome. I cannot wait. The clunkiness won't matter. No. If you had the game yourself, you could probably screw with it and get it to play better. Yeah, tweak it a little better. You could tweak it. Can't wait. That's a good thing. I can't wait either. I'll be playing it in Texas, hopefully. Yeah. I'll stand in line. You will stand in line for that one. I will stand in line for that one. Okay. What if they don't bring any? They better bring some. Come on, Charlie. You gotta bring some. We talked about this, though, didn't we? Yeah, technically. They don't need to. They don't need to, but I thought they were gonna bring some. Come on. They don't need to. Come on. On TV So Craig N t Alright, we'll check out the Rick and Morty. Yep. There's another new game that you finally got to play. Yes, finally! I played it today. Stranger Things. Stranger Things, I played a pro. And? It's got a lot of flow. The funny thing was I went to... I saw you were the combo champion. I was the combo champion. Of course you were! 40 combos. What counts is a combo though? What you use you hit two shots simultaneously. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay that means you have multi ball. No. To simultaneously hit something you would have to hit two shots at the same time. No not simultaneously, you know like if I go left ramp, right ramp, left ramp, right ramp, that's a combo. Each one is a combo shot. Okay. And you know me. And you did 40 of them. Yes I did. Wow. It's got a lot of flow. I actually like that you can backhand the flip, backhand, well this one I could, backhand each ramp. Very Steve Ritchie like there. Yep, it's good. I did like the multiball. So when you do play the multiball, once you get most of the shots, you go for the left ramp and you make the left ramp and the post that's been having so many problems sticks up and stops the ball and then it gives you 2x jackpot chance to get in the, I don't know what you call it, the left I have a picture of C P harborıyorum, the They have like if you hit four shots of the ramps, each ramp, four shots of the outer loop, four shots of the other outer loop, you get total, I forget what they call it, total illusion or something like that instead of total annihilation. That's the originality of Lonnie. You know, you're kind of going, okay, but when you're in all these other modes, you hit these shots, it doesn't count. Please wear the But it was a good game. Demogorgon, you know, everyone complaining about making it into the mouth of it. It is a hard shot. I liked it. It wasn't great because I don't know the theme. The theme does nothing for me. Okay. At least you didn't shit on it. That's good. That's good. I can shit on it. The rules are not great. They're okay. All right. But there's a lot of flow and that's what I prefer. I like the outer shot, the left outer loop shot that goes all the way around, It's like the middle lock shot for AFM, how it comes back around to your right flipper. Love that. Yeah, it's like all the same shots but the returns are different. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Okay. What do you think? Oh, we got to get into this. What do you think of the whole upside-down controversy? For those who don't know or listen to 30 other podcasts where they've already explained this, but all of the Stranger Things playfields have hidden artwork. If you are a手術生 there will be a lot more faces on some of our videos making tastiest pinball and центrick and B 늘 act Kendall devlop Circle of life gains Neither a tazer nor sc 갈가 cares it but a talentai who make funuell team ©Kmchteed.h contractionfor MyPalurationA utin warmth of living standards abuse one of my favorite trains are coming yo what de qualities will be on all the Lectures of the 교 Hamburg Usufruct and Co감을 and Athena Sarah Program 1.10 called zero interest durch bete الب bei in fromen in centering er This has been the plan all along. So what do you think about this, Bruce?
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    Cash grabs! The famous Monopoly line. They're trying for everything. I think it's a kind of a cheesy move. I think it's kind of a dick move. I'm spending $6,000. Charge me to $245 or to $275. It could have been installed at the factory, no issues, no chance of fucking it up, no labor involved for the person, just put it in the price, be done. It could have been a selling feature for the game. Instead, it's an option that a customer can put in, and some of these customers I wouldn't trust to put in on anything. Okay. What do you feel about this? Uh... Your counterpoint. They should have put it in the LEs. The thing is, the thing is, if they put it in the LEs, the LE owners would still have complained that it was available for premium and pro people. Yeah, true. You can't, you can't win, because then they're like, whoa, my game's not special. They could get the exact same thing I have in my game.
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    That's not fair. Yeah, it is a cash grab. The fact they did it right from the start, they obviously knew. Yeah. I mean, people are gonna see that lighting and go, ooh, gotta have it, gotta have it, bye bye bye bye bye bye. But I hear Penn Stadium is making a UV lamp lighting above. Of course they are. But it's not gonna have plastics or the apron or anything like that, so will that work? Who knows? I don't know. I don't wanna know. I mean, if you were gonna get it, you're gonna get Sterns. Of course, I would get it too, because it's all factory installed software, done. I wonder how much labor involved is it? You have to replace the apron, which is what, 10 or 15 minutes, okay. Looks like there's some pretty good harnesses there and plastics. Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch of, that's the part I looked at, plastics, like, whoa. You're replacing stuff or do you have to take ramps off to put these things in? I think they gave an estimated time of install when they revealed it. Oh, really? I don't remember what it was, but it wasn't ridiculous. Okay. And now, would you trust every person in the world to be able to do this? Fuck no. Of course not. No, no, no, no, no, no. I would not. Not me either. Well, on with the neg- uh, goodbye to the negative, let's do the positive! Let's not, let's stick with the negative for a few more seconds. Oh god. Do you see, is that Pandora's box opening now so they're gonna do this more often? I don't think so. Okay. Not to this degree. Where like every playfield has this on. I'm worried more about things like code updates. Oh, you want to unlock this feature of the game? More money. I can see that happening. Yeah, and I can see the hobbyists, especially the smart ones, hacking all that shit and just giving it out. Oh yeah. That would be interesting to see. We haven't seen it in Tron now, think about it. Hmm? Oldest game that has the extra rules set for an LE compared to a non-LE, which is Daft Punk mode. So you can't put the LE software in a Pro. So Bruce, you're telling me that I can't put Tron LE software in a Pro. A break There's a way to the way. Oh, yeah, positives. Hold on. Have I ever said that before? Probably not. No, I have Stern Electronics. Oh, Black Knight Sword of Rage Topper now available. The coolest Topper I have ever seen. Now, Star Wars Topper was how much? The answer is $750. Okay. So how much do you think the Black Knight sort of rage-toppers? It's gotta be $1,000, Bob! No, $449. Wow! Yeah. Makes it a lot more enticing after the other one, doesn't it? It does. I mean, this isn't R2 just spinning his head. This is, he's nodding at you, shaking his head, moving all over the place. You got flames. It's awesome. It is. And did they come out with their final code yet? Timmy put out the code. Did we talk about that yet? At longo turmericaci, English FIN darling Tolent, Tler altijd I'm sticking with it. But I'm going to play this week more and more. I played Stranger Things because I was off today. Yay! I was off. But I was in Florida and I did not bring back a game. Do you believe that? I did not buy a game in Florida. Actually, I don't. You're holding out. I did buy a game this week. You did? I bought, actually won two games this week. You bought two games this week? Yes, sir. What did you buy? One's coming from a faraway place and when it's in shipment, A oyun a.. To be happy day fr on I can like maybe ten Not even no What would you actually want Oh, true. I'm saying that there's ten that you'd have to pick from. Uh, is it an MPU200 game? Nope. Oh. Oh, got you all screwed up, didn't I? Oh, okay. Um, pinball. You got it. Yep. And it's like, what, what, what, he didn't give the title of the game, he just said pinball. That's what it's called. It's pinball. The least original title for a game I've ever heard. Yes. But a fun game. Mm-hmm. Every time I play it, I enjoy it more. I hope you're asking... Sorry. Oh, the classic yawn. The classic yawn. I am going to have to ask somebody to change the rules on it, though. What's wrong with the rules? What happens is if you actually make the upper right saucer shot and you're on 50,000 points, you could actually... it will kick back out sometimes and go right back to your left flipper. again and what happens again you should left flipper up to your life slurshot and get fifty thousand more points and do it again and again it again and you can put the game much by one shot I don't like that that's a bad thing so what i want to do is actually have it uh... switch it to possibly or maybe if the kick that hole it ran into something else ourselves traveled of mind that since we have to get him out of küshütü introductions I know I Scott our very own Scott Our own Scott He still working on that Dragon Fist code How that going for you The problem is according to Scott it really broken Oh of course it broken Like the stock code Like they just gave up They were obviously near the end of the row there because he said it almost looks like they were going to some stuff and just abandoned it great maybe you can implement it yeah maybe maybe you can be nice wouldn't it I got something for Scott I could email but it's easier to just say it on the podcast cuz I know he listens just blast it out here so he hears it right away firepower so to make room for a game I have recently acquired which I'll talk about in a second for the first time in ten years or more I actually have a game in my bedroom. Oh my. So the Firepower's up here. Firepower. So Firepower's running the Scott Special. It's running on System 7 hardware. System 7. Now, this is not William 6 system hardware that was so maxed out to its capabilities according to Ron and the other podcast. Correct. It's running Scott Special System 7. It's System 7. Out COM Кар unas mudjas of mu invertiğimis wadeикnan d illnessye singase pudzang commanded korel bada. Out R Stellan сп ambitions, a是不是yam, contempor abra neks bDayum ed yeciye cichwacei Okay, so here's, here's, I don't know if this is a bug, I'm sure if Scott will probably say it's my fault or I have something wrong on the game or I screwed something up because it's always my fault, you know that. But what happens is the default high score, I bring the thing upstairs, turn it on, default high score is 9,999,999. Like, uh, okay, that's a problem. So I reset it by holding the high score reset button. It resets to 1.1 million. Fine. So the high Hans Richtuld. Congratulations, yourNigasexpiecia, Out on myPinball!? Love you all! Jack Set Me Up
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    Ok so one last question for you guys. We forgot the buzzword and the saying that we're gonna use. General Let us know later where you'd get the Buzzword to use in the sadly situation. Just go to Krueger's instagram to subscribe from here. I've decided that you are rushing to subscribe, A pinball show, a pinball show. I don't think so. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Oh, and the other thing, Bruce. Firepower. Yes. Do the flashers fire in attract mode? I thought they did. I'm trying to think. During the light show. I don't think so. I thought they did. They did. What's the other thing they did? I don't think so. I thought they did. I don't think so. Okay, listeners, any listeners with a stocked firepower, please tell me, do the flashers actually go off into track mode? I'll know in a couple weeks at the bar. Oh, did I say that out loud? Oh, firepower coming in. Yeah, possibly. There's a couple games coming in. I think there's going to be three new games coming in. So that means three go bye-bye. New games coming into where? The Silver Ball Saloon. Not confused with the I'm here with the Silver Ball Chronicles podcast. It's more than a Silver Ball saloon. 135 West Commercial Street, East Rochester, New York. 1-4-4-4-5. I think we forgot to say that last week. How dare you? Yeah. No, how dare you? Am I supposed to always remind you to plug your plays? No, because it shouldn't always be me. Oh, okay. Right? All right. All right. I'm plugging your fucking show morning right now, not anything else. P- He told me to, people. Oh my god, he... God, people. He was like, I need... I need lift- No. C- ... P- So you said games were leaving. Are you going to make a poll or anything? C- I think I'm gonna have to. P- Which games need to leave? C- A polarizing poll. P- I would just take whatever's earning the least. C- That's exactly what I'm gonna be doing, unfortunately. P- That's the poll. The poll is the cash box. C- The poll is always the cash box. P- Cash box poll. C- And it's gonna be a couple of disappointing ones, I hate to say. The one Sternelectronic will be leaving. Oh. Hmm. Stargazer? There's four there. Nope. Stargazer is number two. Stars? Number three. Can't remember the other ones off the top of my head. Meteor or Stargate or Sea Witch. Ah. Sea Witch. Sea Witch is going bye-bye probably. That makes sense because you have Beatles there. No, Beatles is gone. Oh, Beatles is gone. Uh-oh. Yep. There's a lot of changes since I've been there last time. Oh, there's a lot of changes. And then, uh, Whodunit will be leaving. I know that for a fact. Aww. No, we're going with something definitely different that everyone loves this game. Okay. It's one of my favorite Stern early Sterns. Not electronics. Early Sterns. Non-elect- okay. You mean 2000 Stern. From 1999 up, yes. Early. Uh, okay. Um, World Poker Tour. Nope. Tram Collection is that it'd be fun, but chills rude Furin, Qué� cruel por color, fúto, fortes e cor 저�ou, Oh! Yes, baby! Great game. It is a great game and you just can't admit to it. I don't admit to things that aren't true. It is true. If Star Wars is a great game, so is that game. Ah, Star Wars is so much better, come on. Not. Alright. Well, speaking of new games... And Zach's gonna be bringing another game over too. Oh? Yep, surprise too. It's one of his, in his collection, but it will be coming over too, so that's the third game we're gonna be pulling. Most of the time it's just a pinball show. So, I picked up a game. You picked up? Mousin' Around. Oh you did, nice! Radical eventually. You love radical. Frickin' radicals have gone through the roof. Yep. We were on that radical train pretty early. But even then they were impossible to find. Oh. Ten years ago they hard to find. I'd like to find a radical, I would trade my White Water for a radical. Oh, oh noooo. I would. I like white water. I know, but I like radical too. Radical! Skate, you just like it says skate... Or die! Cause you like 720 also. Which are ridiculously priced now too. 720s are? Uh, $2400, $2500, $2400-$2500 for a nice restored one. I remember when I was picking them up for $200-$300. You remember when everything was $200-$300? I'm sure! I remember when the games were at $99.95! I picked up a medieval madness for $200. Oh, you made an announcement since our last episode. I did. A big announcement. Big. So, you have the floor. We are now having Stomp3West, the search for super jackpots. The search for super jackpots, okay. That is the name. We're going with it. Alright, when does this occur? This is on April 18th. Twenty dollars to join pre-registration up to April 1st, twenty-five after April 1st or at the door if spots are still available. Forty-eight spots are free. We are two days in, up to fifteen spots already filled. So if you have not bought your tickets, be there or be square. It's going to be like Pinburg. The Winner took home 30 IFPA points. So, points to be had. So if you're one of those whopper people, this is for you. It's for you. Is Lord of the Rings going to be in this? I made it harder since then. Yeah. Zipper flippers. It's not zipper flippers. You keep saying zipper flippers. We should actually try that one of these days. Zipper flippers. Drill out some things and that'd be cool, wouldn't it? No, wouldn't it? It'd be even harder to drain on that thing. Yeah. Okay. But lighting flippers, no rubbers on the outlanes, and a lot harder for the rules to get multiball. Okay. And now Pirates is now the longest playing game. All right, we also have an update on Upstates. Yes, they're up. We just got it done today. They're up. Finally. They're accurate? And they're right. I think they're accurate. Alright, so we're finally at it. So two months later... Yep, so I have to talk to Mr. Howard. I'm gonna e-mail him tomorrow. I should do it right now while I have the thoughts in my head. Hohohohohoho. Okay. Hohohoho. I got thoughts in my head. Alright, I'm glad that makes you so excited. Hohohohohoho. I see I'm 11th. Yeah! You're 8th. I'm 8th. Of course you have like 100 events or something. 23. I have 14. Well, you're in the Badlands. I'm in the Badlands. Jerry Bernard's in the lead with only 14 events. I know. Don't forget my tournament this weekend. Oh yes, this weekend, this upcoming weekend will be the Winter Open at the World Famous Rock Fantasy. Can it still be World Famous if it actually moved? No. So they have to become famous again? Yes, they do. Formerly world famous, now at new location trying to become world famous again. Mhm. So Upstate hopefully will have an announcement and the Upstate finals won't be in like September or something for the previous year. No, I hope not. I'm thinking probably early April maybe. Alright. That's what I'm hoping for. What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? What do we still have? The mail ball bag. C Barapanese, Wow, okay. It never gets old, does it? Sure. It never gets old. Last week, we talked about the terrible System 3 Gottlieb flippers and how they have ridiculous amounts of travel so you can trap everything under the sun. The chief way around this is to use Gottlieb System 1 coil Stops and drill out the holes a little bit So they will fit onto the System 3 plate. So we'll see how that works and get back to you. But it seems like a lot of people have done it, so. Yup. And that was from Todd. Hi, Todd. Todd emailed us about that solution. And he actually tried it for Big Hurt. Oh, God. Made the game more difficult, vast improvement.
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    The guy who's selling me the pinball has a game for sale, Ron. Anotherуют Bai, Everybody in this room isieder legend of uh... of T Warum ... Martin Luther King,visor in the Saying Import pretentes. Iris zucchini of terry credible. DanoneImage. Cis fellas, I wanna hear all about Bruce and Mrs. Bruce and their journey of the bar from idea phase to day to day operation. I think we're gonna actually do that episode probably about another month and a half. Right now, since I went down to Florida, I'm actually running the bar by myself. Kathy is down there dealing with family issues. That's all I'm gonna say for that right now. I'm not sure what you're talking about right now, but eventually I talked to her about it. She's not a fully willing participant, but it will be more like Ron running the show and we're going to be the interviewee. Oh, okay. So we are going to do a dedicated Bar episode. Yes. Where Ron can ask to think of questions and I think I might ask another person to join us, maybe like Steph. I think Steph actually has some great questions when she's asking interviews, so I'd really like to have her join in on that one. Great questions when she's asking interviews. Asking interview questions, I said. And that's Steph the Pinball Princess, for those who don't know who we're talking about, because we assume everyone knows everyone we talk about. Because we are 141 episodes in, if you guys can't fucking figure it out, fuck you. No, that's what our fans on Apple Podcasts Breeding say. Yeah. No, no, we did get a rating. So we got another one, huh? No, it was a five star. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Thank you, thank you. I can't say those on the air, they're no fun. Yeah, thank you sir for a number five, even though we expect this to always be number one or number two. Actually, it says, I think I like it. One of them sounds like Bruce Campbell, ironically not the one named Bruce. See? I sound like Bruce Campbell? I don't know. Hail to the king, baby. Yeah, baby. I don't think I sound like Bruce Campbell. Who knows? Hey, people, we know people listen to us because guess what? What? We're the ones that made Stern Electronic pinball machines go through the freaking roof. Yeah, it's all us, Bruce. Because stars are now $2300. $2300! The Yep. Wow. So, everyone hates us for bringing out and bringing to the light Stern pinball machines, but they keep on still buying them. Daniel also asked if we have any advice for new competitive players. Join a league of course if you can. Go to your local place, meet people, introduce yourselves, play with them, watch them, Learn how to tap pass, patience, bounce pass. Just tap pass? Like right there, just tap pass. No, no, no, but learn how. I said learn how to. Watch how they do it. Ask. Most people are doing it, they're not going to say, oh, I'm not telling you, you know. They'll be like, yeah, hey, you know, look at this, here's how you do it, bap, and practice. That's the biggest thing. We have a lot of new people playing at the bar, and we're actually, I'm talking to Zach about it. I don't know if Zach's really thrilled about it, but I want to do a learn from the masters. I think we should, like one day on a Saturday, just have people come out and they can ask us questions and try to practice on games, so what we'll do is actually take glass off the machine. So who's doing the teaching? I think Zach should, and me, if we get too many people, we'll do two different machines with two different groups, if not we'll just do one and go back and forth, and you can teach how to bounce pass, tap pass, other things, you know, post pass, that kind of stuff. You could stream it. Uh, Golden? Oh. Too much PornHub. Yeah, you can get off that stuff. No, can't. Let's see, do I have any advice? You're gonna drain a lot, you'll fail more than you succeed, and it's only pinball, so don't worry about it. And everyone drains. Everyone drains. Even Keith Owen drains eventually. Believe it or not. I know, go figure, huh? Mm-hmm. I'm a big fat turd next to me. Big fat turd next to me. Missy, she's like laying right up against me, almost. Laying just like, bleh. At least she's not barking. No, thank God. She has the cone of shame on though right now. The cone of shame? The cone of shame. Why does she have the cone of shame on? She likes biting her one foot. She has a little like scab on it. Ah. She keeps on chewing on it and trying to reinfect it, so. The cone of shame comes on, and what's that from? The What's that from? I've heard the cone of shame forever. Yes, but it's actually from a movie. They put it in it's from a movie They put it. Okay. What what movie I have no idea up up Yep. No, I've heard that term long before that movie came out and Ron, yes, the package is dropped off. Oh
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    It is being dropped off. Oh my god Matt We've pretty much given it away. Yes, we have. But, come on and guess, boys and girls. Maybe I'll give a gift card to the Silverwall Saloon. We have a second email from Daniel. Daniel, Banco Popular. Huh? Dating game. Good first run. A couple of suggestions for you guys. Don't make it about guessing the name of the game a la 20 questions like Dennis and Tony do. Oh, and the Eclectic Gamers podcast. Did we rip off someone else's thing? Woohoo! Is it ripping it off if you didn know about it We didn know about it I actually didn know about it Yeah so just make it about asking features and design and then deciding which game you would take home based on that Example questions Does the game have more than two flippers Does game two feature mode scoring and on and so forth And then make your decision on game X flow with three flippers and modes Ding ding ding You are taking home Star Trek Yeah idea I kinda like the way we did it I don mind it But what do you think I think more questions definitely Well yeah what a 10 I think almost 15 No, 10 is fine. Because then you ended up with Popeye, which was great.
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    Okay. So thank you, Daniel. Then we have an email from Dan. Would you guys be willing to shout out the East Coast Classics Championship Pinball Tournament? When and where is that? Did you know about the East Coast Classics Championship Pinball Tournament? It's gonna be in Ashland, Virginia, March 20th to 21st. It's a charity tournament to benefit Path of Play, so if you don't help me get some press, the karma slide will cause something horrible like having to re-pin every connector on every solid state at the bar. Oh no. I've done it. I've done a lot of them, so. I'm sure you have. This tournament will have 14 to 20 pins and will be guaranteed purse of at least $1,000. I'm going to get big and raise a lot of money for awesome cause. So once again, very good. That is the East Coast Classics Championship Pinball Tournament in Ashland, I'm saying Ashland because that's probably how it's pronounced, but A-S-H-L-A-N-D Ashland, Virginia, March 20th to 21st. Beat Era, B-Square! Thank you, Dan. Let's see. I did not plan this. Oh, this is hilarious. You'll love this email. Okay. This is the subject line of this email is Silver Ball Chronicles episode one.
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    Adam says this was the best thing that pinball network has put out by far. Congrats, guys. I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next one. See Bruce. Yeah, you definitely got the wrong. You got the wrong email there. He sent it to the slam tilt. Yes. I know. That's funny. The Funny thing is the name of the the original that we're changing the name a little Advanced We're changing the cease and desist letters were coming out. They I actually was ready to hire the Australian
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    Lawyers on this one and that's from the long time ago the mail that yes the the email was like this silver ball bag at gmail.com
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    Which everyone is gonna think I came up with and I did not come up with that. It is going to be silverballchronicles at gmail.com. I see you kept your straight man gig. Did you or did you not? Yes. And as anyone knows, the straight man is always the more talented and makes more money. Yeah. But if zero is still zero, it's still zero. Oh, I'm not making any money from this? Damn. Nope. But I think I'm the better funny man. Out of all the others. Out of all the other comedians, you are the best. Out of podcasts, yes. Okay, so you are the funniest person in podcasting. Pinball podcasting. Fuck yeah. Okay. I have no retort. Nothing to retort. So speaking of old segments. Ooh, you got a new old segment? New old segment. Game you like, game you hate. Okay, I got mine ready, baby. I got mine ready. I think it should be the Silverball Chronicle man, Ron Hallett, and the sultry voice of Bruce, what is his name? Nittingale? Nittingale, that's it, yeah, that's it. You need to go first on your, what would you like to pick first? Game you like or game you hate? I'm gonna be positive. What else is fucking new? Game I like. Deadpool! Deadpool is awesome. I just put the, uh, I put Art Blades on it. First time I ever did that. Installation actually wasn't, was pretty, the new Stern playfields, there's like two connectors and they come out. It's insane. It's quite awesome. It's a unique playfield. It's goofy, which I love goofy shit. I love the art package is a masterpiece. The music is insane. I'm a pinball machine. Some of the best music I've ever heard in a pinball machine. Sound effects? Sound effects from the older games, so you get kudos there. It's just everything I look for, a rule set that even my puny brain can somewhat understand. The whole concept of the battles and the 16-bit graphics on the screen, the fact that Deadpool is playing his own game in a room filled with old Stern electronics games, including the Affleck Head I we should go to gift in a card Card Operator
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    Time to�옲 Light We can see that I have to myth This is not a never a INTENSE ENDS Oh. Okay. But I like it because it's a 8-ball deluxe with multiball. The artwork is terrible, don't get me wrong. The artwork is freaking hideous. They did try stuff that was different, like with the pool table, you know, being lit up with all the pool shots and everything like that. That was kind of cool, but it's kind of cheesy. But the rules, it's above Lonnie level in 1988, so we're good right there. Wow. The opinions expressed by Bruce Nightingale are his own. No, it's totally shown by the Slam Tilt Podcast. Don't listen to him. And what's the game you dislike, Ron? Oh no, I don't dislike this game. I hate this game. Oh, hate. And they took it out of league, finally. Finally they took this turd. Twilight Zone. You finally are going to admit that you hate Twilight Zone? I'll take that out too. It's one of the two games they took out, but no, it was not Twilight Zone. I don't hate Twilightzone. This game I hate.
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    Wizard of Oz. I hate this frigging game. You know why? It's missing this element called fun, which I think is super important in a game. You just suck at it. That's the problem. I swear in League, I tried every different strategy. I tried every different shot. I tried everything to try to consistently do good at this game. Gary Farmer, Financially I don't mind. After shitty game. After shitty game. I don't care what you like. This game is shit. I didn't say I liked it. I said I don't mind it. This game is a turd. You can't see anything on the game. It's ridiculously dark. It's Clunkasaurus. It's another Clunkasaurus game. Everything about it is, is the stupid pop. Like I can tell a WizardOfUs from a mile away when I hear that pop bumper sound of that stupid pop bumper on the lower left. Clerinilities Direct Серane부�la, P thu偽 duyayr спросy anews lensesáb ñ estáná. Nonexact Philiplike�strokeêasidee reinядánácome íating licenseíáperópsxéêsáóåосьáéóçééxéé Alexskiparkêá filedýilachžóôóalkd enjoysêłe ellerééSÉordaneazeneoréeap Áé Temper 범íficciśéparñàósêářïóákżеłêåšè kör galã 365żèéééééééééééèèinkå PR Walking Brifig لم ch tunéuéこれ recitejàéééééééééjq dimensioned�랰ד tr신 Khratere'éońìèlえー!, I do like the trees on the pop-pumpers holding the apples. I'll always like that. So you don't like Joe Bauer? Joe Balls or games, except Baywatch and Godzilla. They're good. But pretty much anything else, no. No, you don't. I mean, one thing he avoided on this, he didn't have a side ramp. True. Knapp, T lee 28. Okay, so I can't go all Hobbit on it. No, you cannot go Hobbit on it. No. But? But Hobbit's worse. But just the whole, you shoot a crystal ball and then the lights go off and it's, Lord, no! And like, what the hell am I doing? What am I trying to get? I love the weaker flippers. No, no holds. There's a lot of good ideas with Wizard of Oz. There's a lot of good ideas. Really, Bruce? What happened to yours that you bought? It never came. Yeah, because you sold it. Well, it took fucking years of Jack's BS hoping and poking and praying and it's coming out eventually. I got sick of waiting. So you'd still have it now? Probably. It probably would be at the bar. Oh. And my wife is a humongous Wizard ofOznut. Uh, no. I had to play that. And you would be playing it all the time then. No. I had to play that in league every week. I just, oh, I hate it. I hate it. I'm right on the, like on the opposite end of that, there's four games there, it was all the way on the left, all the way on the right you have Dialed In, which I love to play. So that's the game I hate. Okay. Now the game I hate is the most popular, most produced Premiere game ever made. Ooh. Premiere game. Premiere. So let's be nice. So Premiere, Premiere, well no, let me go to exactly what the official Premiere is. The game is premiered from 1984 to 1996, which is all the Gottlieb games. Their trade name was Gottlieb, but it was actually built by Premier Technologies from 1984 to 1996. The most popular game is the worst one. One of the worst. Okay, you got me there. I don't know what the most popular game would be. Ooh, cue ball wizard. Oh. You don't like the frowny ramp ramp. The pinball show is a game of the bad light show. It's just not a fun game. You got like a half a playfield on the bottom with this humongous freaking cueball up top. It's just not a fun game. The stupid corny sounds, the bad flippers, the supersized gobble holes, you know, the saucers, you know, we're gonna call them the kickouts. Do you think the Gottliebs of that era just had some of the worst sound? Oh God, they did. Especially the callouts. The callouts are just abysmal on most of their games. Yeah, like Mario Andretti, oh my God. Did they like not, I just, I don't think they ever hired voice talent. No, no. I think they just had like, hey intern, come over here, wanna do, can you do Clint Eastwood? Hot Seoul watasura, tilthip返 GML, Now, Ron, if you will guess the second most popular produced game from Premier Technologies, I will, and don't go cheating, I will publicly, I don't know what I'll do, give me something I can really make fun of, or be made fun of. You will publicly say that Lonnie Romp is your favorite programmer. There you go. What's the second most popular? Okay, so I know it's... you're looking right at it, right? I'm looking right at it. So I know it's not Stargate because you think I'd say that. So he wouldn't have put that kind of stuff on the line with Stargate. So it's gotta be something other than Stargate. So what could it be? What could be the second most... So now I'm trying to think out in the wild, what was like the game, the second most thing I've seen? Alright, I'm gonna take a long shot here. Ready? The Tee'd Off No Damn it Nope, they only made 3,500 Tee'd Offs Ah, that's still not bad 5,550, so only 150 behind Street Fighter II Ohhhhhhhhhh I should have went for the license No, you should have. I was thinking you were going for the other one. I thought you were going for Super Mario World Brothers Super Mario World or whatever it's called Brothers, yeah Yeah I thought that's the one you were going to go for Damn. And that's not even third. Third is actually, you'll never even guess third. No, I won't. Monte Carlo Monte Carlo Monte Carlo 4300 Really? With the roulette wheel thing in this? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And a million shot a 10 million. What is that? 10 million shot or something like that is terrible. Okay. Yeah, but Street Fighter two is number two. Wow. Scary, huh? That is very scary. So there you go. Game you like, game you hate, bring them back. And I kept both Gottliebs. Yes. Somehow you made the one you like a Gottlieb. I did. That was amazing. Let's see, is there anything else? I don't think I have anything else. I got to start doing some work right now because I have to figure out who we're going to say goodbye to. So how do we get in touch with the Silver Bowl Chronicles? I mean... I mean, the Slam Tilt Podcast. You email us at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. We can be found on the internet at slamtiltpodcast.com. All of our stuff is in the upper right corner. YouTube, Twitch, RSS feed, it's all there for your listening and viewing pleasure. 140 episodes, holy shit. We've been around a ridiculous amount, the True Podcast warriors here. Yes. Still doing this for some reason. For the love of the game. Yeah, that's gotta be it. Mm-hmm. So thanks everybody. This has been episode 141. Hi Steve. Hi Zach. Hi Jeff Teolis. Hi Marty, hi Ryan. Hi everyone, Mrs. Pin. Mr. Pin, Dr. Pin, Steph. Did you hear the latest Mrs. Pin episode? I have not. Oh, that's hilarious. I have to listen to it. Who else we got to say? Who's your new guy now? Oh, David Dennis. Hi, David. We'll be recording soon, on Friday, actually. And you'll like the subject matter of our next episode. Ooh. I'll just keep it at that. You can probably figure out what it's going to be. Stern. Like I said, you can probably figure out what it's going to be, but I won't say if it's that, but yes. Yeah, but yes. I'll keep it at that. Like I said, you can probably figure out what's gonna be. I won't say if it's that, but yes. Yes. Oh no, I didn't mean that yes. You did say that, I thought I would. Yeah, but I didn't mean it that way. I love fucking blowing up your spot and I knew nothing about it. Alright, thanks everybody. Say goodbye, you idiot. I can't fucking say it. I'm fucking laughing my ass off still. What was his name again?
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    Okay, okay, let's try this again. I'll say it right this time. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, David Dedes.
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    Let me see what's running in the background. Let's do some task manager. Oh, the Pornhub app is running. Oh no. Kill it. It's not Pornhub, it's all the other ones, all the other Porns. All the other Porns, okay. Your computer has 473 viruses.