IRON PINBALL Battle - Star Trek

Don't Panic Flip·video·2h 49m·analyzed·Oct 14, 2021

Analysis

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TL;DR

Virtual vs physical Star Trek pinball battle showcases v-pin cabinet engineering and competitive gameplay.

Summary

George Fisher hosts 'Don't Panic Flip' on TPN, featuring an Iron Pinball battle between himself and Frisco Pinball on Star Trek, with commentary by Extra Paul. Frisco plays on a custom Goonies-themed virtual pinball cabinet with advanced features (43" 4K playfield, PinUp Popper front-end, DOFF lighting effects, haptic feedback), while George plays a physical Star Trek LE. The show demonstrates objective-based competition gameplay and explores the virtual pinball community's technical setup, software, and physics implementations.

Key Claims

This is the first competition featuring a physical cabinet versus a virtual table on TPN
medium confidence · George Fisher asks if this is the first competition with physical vs virtual setup; Frisco Pinball confirms it is
Frisco's virtual pinball setup has zero perceptible input delay due to Samsung 4K monitor in game mode and high-end GPU (Ryzen 9 5950x)
high confidence · Frisco Pinball explains detailed hardware configuration and delay elimination strategy
The PinUp Popper front-end and PUP Packs (custom media additions) are central to the virtual pinball experience
high confidence · Frisco Pinball extensively explains PinUp Popper by 'nail buster' and PUP pack community contributions
The VPW (Virtual Pinball Workshop) team is considered a gold standard for physics implementation using End Fozzy physics
high confidence · Frisco Pinball recommends VPW and EndFozzy physics as reliable, references vpuniverse.com as source
George has owned Star Trek pinball three times and plans to keep this copy
high confidence · George Fisher directly states he has owned the game three times and intends to keep this one
Godzilla LE machines are in export stage with estimated delivery end of month
medium confidence · Frisco Pinball reports distro contact mentioned export stage and rough end-of-month ETA
Arcade1Up pinball cabinets have approximately 0.25 second input delay, making them difficult to play competitively
medium confidence · George Fisher describes his experience with Arcade1Up delay as quarter-second or eighth-second, comparing to physical machines
PinScape boards (encoder hardware) are no longer in production; creator recently retired
high confidence · Frisco Pinball mentions PinScape creator just retired and references being in last batch of all-in-one units

Notable Quotes

“this cab has a 43 inch 4k monitor for the play field a 2k 32 inch back glass and a 15.6 inch 720p full dmd so with virtual pinball the biggest thing is uh one of the greatest things is the front end and pinup popper by nail buster”
Frisco Pinball@ 7:26 — Technical specification of the virtual pinball cabinet setup, explaining core components and software
“so i bought a samsung and you turn on game mode and it is instantaneous so i just upgraded my cpu to a ryzen 9 5950x because i was having i direct capture for all my streams”
Frisco Pinball@ 18:42 — Explains the hardware approach to eliminating input delay in virtual pinball, critical for competitive play
“the vpw team the vpn workshop team they use what's called end fawzi physics and those guys are amazing uh wax makes amazing tables as well his physics are really dialed in”
Frisco Pinball@ 31:14 — Identifies key creators and physics standards in the virtual pinball community
“i would say the biggest thing about v-pins is learning the software it is i consider myself somewhat technically knowledge schooled so it was a bear to learn this stuff”
Frisco Pinball@ 37:38 — Reflects on the complexity barrier for virtual pinball adoption despite technical competence
“if there is some i don't know what the the smallest number of microseconds is that a human can experience it but if if you hit that number of milliseconds and micro milliseconds um it gets really frustrating to me and i immediately want to stop playing”
George Fisher@ 36:25 — Expresses the sensitivity of human perception to input lag in pinball gameplay

Entities

George FisherpersonFrisco PinballpersonExtra PaulpersonDon't Panic FlipeventTPNorganizationStar Trekgame Godzilla LEgamePinUp PopperproductPUP Packsproduct

Signals

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content_signal: First documented TPN battle comparing physical vs virtual pinball machines in direct competition
high · George asks 'is this like the first competition where you have an actual cabinet table versus the virtual one' and both confirm yes
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technology_signal: Advanced v-pin cabinet engineering achieving near-zero input delay through hardware optimization (43" 4K display, Ryzen 9 5950x, Samsung in game mode)
high · Frisco Pinball's detailed explanation of delay elimination strategy and confirmation of instantaneous response
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community_signal: Virtual pinball table quality varies significantly by creator/physics implementation; community relies on identifying trusted creators (VPW, Wax) for consistent experience
high · Frisco explains multiple versions of Star Trek table exist with different physics; recommends VPW as gold standard; references Wax's criticism of poorly-coded tables
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product_concern: Arcade1Up pinball cabinets suffer from ~0.25 second input lag, making competitive play frustrating despite game availability
high · George Fisher describes Arcade1Up delay as quarter-second or eighth-second and states it made play 'rough' despite appreciating game access
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product_strategy: PinScape encoder boards no longer available; creator recently retired, limiting custom v-pin build options
high · Frisco Pinball notes 'the guy that created them just retired so i luckily was in one of the last batches'

Topics

Virtual pinball cabinet design and specificationsprimaryInput delay and hardware optimization in v-pin systemsprimaryPhysics engines and table creation standards (End Fozzy, VPW)primaryPinUp Popper front-end and PUP pack customizationprimaryPhysical vs virtual pinball competitive playprimaryStar Trek pinball rules and objectivessecondaryGodzilla LE production pipeline and delivery timelinesecondaryVirtual pinball community and creator ecosystemsecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.85)— Enthusiastic discussion of virtual pinball technology and community. George expresses frustration with input delay on consumer products (Arcade1Up), but overall tone is celebratory of the v-pin community's engineering achievements and Frisco's setup. Community engagement is warm, with multiple new streamers welcomed to TPN.

Transcript

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[Music] so completed serving the world for over 30 years [Music] i'll have a better step [Music] whatever [Music] foreign [Music] whatever better [Music] have a better event [Music] and [Music] whatever [Music] whatever [Music] good evening everyone my name is george this show is don't panic flip and tonight we have an iron pinball battle between myself and frisco pinball with extra paul doing commentating uh hottie how are you doing this evening good how are you thank you for having me appreciate that oh man this is uh this is awesome uh hopefully everybody's sound is coming through okay hopefully everybody's video video is coming through okay hottie now actually sees extra paul which is great paul how are you doing this evening oh i'm doing great how are you i'm i'm doing great as well it was a it was a day for me it was like lined up i had meetings i had one 30-minute gap today meetings all the way until 4 30 gym until roughly about six dinner back here to continue working on the stream documentation for a meeting at nine tomorrow and then and then troubleshooting this like so it was just everything uh stupak says uh frisco wins because of the outfit [Laughter] okay um i think yeah immediately that's i feel like there should be a point uh asap now um frisco tonight we will be battling on star trek so i'm gonna switch over here let's show off what we've got here uh i have a physical star trek le you have a virtual star trek uh do you want to explain a little bit about your virtual setup because it's amazing sure thank you uh this is a wide-body goonie themed custom v-pin cab this is what got me into pinball pre-pandemic i've maybe played pinball on the williams app or the stern app on my phone and that was it just here and there but i started learning about the virtual pinball community which is amazing by the way uh and slowly but surely i realized that if i was gonna try a virtual pinball cab i wanted to make sure that i did it right so i didn't have any regrets so this cab has a 43 inch 4k monitor for the play field a 2k 32 inch back glass and a 15.6 inch 720p full dmd so with virtual pinball the biggest thing is uh one of the greatest things is the front end and pinup popper by nail buster david peva i believe is how you say the last name his software allows people to create what's called pup packs and they are added media like movie clips um topper call outs that you can add to any table and so many people in the vpn community are creative and it's just a blast this has a lot of the stuff obviously not the newer tables but a lot of the older tables that i played as a kid like whirlwind is my favorite table of all time and to get to play that and have you know i have an cab fan so when the topper is supposed to go off it blows air uh under my kilt no i'm just kidding it's just a physical fan underneath just for a whirlwind uh i have a fan there's other tables that use it like twister um some table so i have an led matrix at the back of my cab and it will display lights for the flashers or custom lights that'll say like on the goonies table it'll spell sloth as you hit each flasher but that's called doth and the doth effects affect the lighting the fan um if you have a shaker knocker all those sorts of things so when you say doff i think of depth of field is that what doff in this instance it's a direct output framework it's a custom software and custom code that people can change the the lighting and all those sort of little toys like um not even just the fan there's a surround sound feedback to help mimic the ball rolling sound so you can get uh i have exciters in this but you can get like a complete haptic feedback setup but i have it so that it simulates all the sounds okay i have so many more questions so many but i i have to two seconds uh a just to reiterate yes frisco wins because of the outfit that's amazing uh hi mr hardlock hey ogden scotty c i ski do welcome everybody scotty c had a question full dof 8 out of 10 contactors and ssf there's a lot of things i didn't understand about that i have seven uh speakers and four exciters so the seven speakers are my 7.1 surround sound feedback setup so it mimics on some tables you'll hear the ball rolling up on the right side of the cab when you hit it out of the shooter lane so it's a really nice effect to kind of mimic the haptic feedback you would get i have two little kids so i can't really go crazy like i had to turn off my shaker motor on my aiq because the whole house shakes so i can't really go nuts with the haptic feedback but the surround sound feedback i would strongly recommend it to anybody okay also i skidoo the guy on the upper right that is extra paul i'm not sure if you remember extra paul uh i think i'm wearing one of my other four different faces okay it's the other face yeah i didn't have a beard before uh i gotta face the changes you have a changing face okay somebody should let audrey know that paul's on the stream though okay i see it now got it uh okay and uh hottie did i hear you start this by saying it was a goonies themed pinball machine yes so this is all so the real goonies physical machine there's one somebody reskinned it and rethemed the machine i modeled my cab it has the same curve on the backbox it's got goonies art on the side it's got a one-eyed willy plunger with jewels on the pirate patch over the eye um it's got a bali coin door and just goonies aren't all over goonies is my favorite one of my favorite movies of all time so i figured why not go why not so is it goonies like the characters or goodies with like the name but a heavy pirate thing uh it's got you know it's there was like a poster with the goonies looking at the goonies movie look at where they're looking out to sea that's the side art the goonies never say die classic movie poster is on the backbox and then i almost wore that shirt tonight so uh and i'm not very familiar with with like star trek lore is red i know red shirts get killed but is like a red suit is that an engineer is that is that correct i have no clue i ordered this off amazon yesterday i just typed in star trek outfit it came with uh came with these four pins to denote that i'm a captain apparently okay i think you're right though red edge red is engineer okay red shirts are always the one that died we got confirmation from nick nick by the way hello engineers are usually blue oh red shirt is security says bill from sweet okay okay nice all right so this is the fun part and we won't be able to hear it but there's a little bit and i've got it turned down so hopefully it's not uh overpowering but when i show off the objectives uh there's a little bit of background music that plays give me just a second uh the software they have not started yet so it's zero to zero objective one so uh this is a short video showing how uh we complete objective one which is to collect an extra ball uh i think on the majority of games you have to hit the warp ramp seven times uh in this instance i think it it also goes up either automatically but you hit the warp ramp seven times and then you collect on the vengeance shot that's it really really simple so that is going to be our first objective for tonight do you have any questions about that howdy uh i see the warp ramp i see i see the target lit light for the extra ball in the vengeance shot so i think i we should be good okay okay and it should it's either gonna be four or seven i do think in most cases assuming it's uh the most recent firmware i i don't know i think it should be set but if it's four it's four and whatever that's how that's how that's that's how we do it gonna be fun let's battle all right you count me down uh i'm gonna let paul count us down here okay all right well you already had the graphic but three two one fight so how's how he doing uh he's living that's all i could do all right up and around two oh damn it so i think i've got warp two right now three missed it by that much uh honey are you able to backhand that left orbit all right so i have lit extra ball oh jesus got it damn it there's one i think i got the two okay orbit shot wasn't there now hottie you i think beforehand mentioned that you thought this game was awesome but you haven't spent a lot of time on it is that right no i spent last night about you know an hour or two trying to get it to work because there's so many versions in the virtual world um that i uh i had to spend a lot of time but then i started playing it and man this is a fun table like i have played it once in a real physical tourney and i didn't think too much of it just because i didn't get a lot of time on it there's a quick uh quick one one round uh game on it but man this is a blast like good choice ah it's you know i'm i'm happy i was able to come up with 10 different objectives that that are that that utilize different parts of the the table um i'll have you know i did pick a couple that require hitting the warp ramp just because it is my favorite part of this game that work ramp shot feels so good i think i hit five in a row just now so jesus i got two how uh how difficult is it to backhand that left arm to orbit on your virtual table hottie um it's not too bad uh i have a easier it just is that george feeds his his warp ramp flipper every single time okay either forehand or backhand date yep gotcha yeah i was going for the right orbit shot hopefully all the way through unless you got a weak one that'll drop through those uh rollover lanes at the top and then catching up on chat here mr hard luck uh medical falls under science okay so wait red was science or security i think i missed that um and none of the versions are that good compared to some other tables i feel like i think i just missed a lot of chat i was trying to catch up the warp ramp is really hard to hit on the v pin it says astra nasty astral nasty sorry blue is science in every series got it uh and pinsomniak asks how many times have i owned this game this is the third time i've owned this game and i think i'm keeping this one yeah uh is this like the first competition where you have an actual cabinet table versus the virtual one what's up frisco and tpn hollywood star yes this is physical on the left virtual on the right and we did have frisco go through and walk us through a setup because i am so intrigued oh and frisco i'm gonna switch back over to chat oh hold on wait i scored um frisco uh i am really curious about the delay on your virtual pin setup that is the first thing i notice every time i play a virtual cab how is the and i hear that you can combat delay with like solid setup and uh and horsepower so how is the delay on your pin so non-existent when i first bought this uh first bought a monitor for my v-pin setup it was an lg 43-inch 4k tv um and you could tell there was a delay and i was running a decent setup i had like a 2060 super with a ryzen 5 3600 i shouldn't have had any delay i turned on game mode did whatever i could so i said this is i got to try something else so i bought a samsung and you turn on game mode and it is instantaneous so i just upgraded my cpu to a ryzen 9 5950x because i was having i direct capture for all my streams i don't throw a camera on the actual play field or the monitors i'd like people to see what i see as far as quality so so far it's working there are some tables that are making my cpu just chug for some reason i think it's the code the way the way they code the flashers but um yeah it's it's non-existent as i hit the buttons uh everything's instantaneous okay so a couple different things uh i'm gonna skip the soft-boiled egg which is i'm just stupid of ethan everything you just said proves that to me i'm right there with you the software leg that's that that's me at this point um but also scotty c had uh a scotty c who is obviously a part of the virtual compute uh virtual pin community at this point running a pin scape or a zero delay encoder question mark so a pin scape is a sort of encoder board it runs everything it runs all my quote unquote toys the fan the lights uh well the lights are on a addressable led board a separate one but it runs i have rgb buttons so every all my buttons light up um they run and that's the thing with the coating on the doff that i talked about before you can make your flipper buttons turn whatever color you want to match the table magnus saves buttons can change colors so a pin skateboard is a really good solution unfortunately the guy that created them just retired so i luckily was in one of the last batches of a pinscape all-in-one it's called but they have other boards it's all klz what's the word klz 25 boards or 52 boards sure obviously the 25 of the 52 boards yeah yeah yeah uh soft boiled egg you just needed till pop yeah i do have a real tilt bob inside i don't have an accelerometer so nudge works perfectly uh it's been a really good practice for me trying to become a real pinball player insomniac i have a tilt pump this is we we we discussed this last night all of my games thanks to i skidoo now have a tilt pop i don't have to move a tilt bob between games since the uh the one from tmnt wasn't drilled all the way through and i was too lazy to finish drilling it with a drill bit thing so um okay we are on to objective two which is klingon multiball there's a video playing here on how to achieve click on multiballs step one hit those lock targets this one i edited less out of it you can see some where the i keep missing um and that's pretty standard for me but it's gonna get us there eventually okay great so i hit the lock targets and now there's highlighted shots on the playfield uh where you actually lock this is awesome live catch by the way thank you thank you it's funny because i finished this game and i went on to score like 200 million uh what yeah it was a really really good game okay you're in klingon multiple boom you have achieved it so that's it you just hit the lock targets uh which are up on the top left uh and then actually hit the locks themselves hold on you started my game by accident okay i forgot the stern tables both flippers um both flippers start the law the flippers launch the ball give me one sec i'll be right back take your time you're seeing my loading screen anyways all right now we're there now we're there okay so now we're going to switch back over to maine get to take a look at these two guys here okay so this is uh the goal of this one is going to be to get into klingon multiball once again hit the lock targets hit the lock shots three locks gets you into klingon multiball the timer stops as soon as the graphic for klingon starts playing uh hottie do you have any questions i think i'm good i think i know what i'm shooting for i know where the locks are from last night's gameplay uh i think i had it happen a couple times so i was excited when it did okay uh do you want to do you want to do a uh do you want to do let's battle and then you i thought it was going to go well that's the thing so by the way i'm using uh streamer.bot in order to do some of the audio based things and some scene switching it uh but the voice control requires that it notice that you've ended a sentence before you activate the other one so i can't continue talking and say something like voice control or let's battle or objective one because it's not going to trigger in any of those i have to wait and then say something like let's battle okay i gotcha so right now that's still cool though yeah oh my god it's so geeky cool i absolutely love it paul go ahead and count us down uh let's battle three two oh it's not going to do it because yeah right let's battle three two you got to give it like a good two seconds here last one sorry we'll get it good let's battle for you okay and then did it go yep we're good yeah go forward we won't do a countdown it'll just be a let's battle fight oh i probably should have hit the locks um all right hotties uh went away from his first lock lit here okay all right george has got his first ball locked still working on that center standard target man those lock shots are so tough come on that was it oh he's got that center one left huh yeah now he's gonna finally have a shot from the upper flipper see i hit it oh come on that was it you guys are the same george is a ball ahead though there we go that's looking good all right i need this to fall down over here on the right and then hit that light lock got it there it is finally nice okay so yeah now you've got your middle lock shot lit boom you got your first lock and second lock is lit on the left scoop there mpt3k no worries man beautifully done hottie you guys are tied now okay too far uh soft boiled egg yeah i believe you can hit these uh stand-up targets from the right flipper it's pretty tough though oh is he in vengeance multiple or did he start right manu i hope your stream was awesome tonight hey what up manu [Applause] ah get up there there is that so i got one more locking there's one two two yep that's yeah that's fun and i just got into cleaning that's that's three for me oh but agree you're right behind him now yeah seriously though that one was a lot closer dang i think you would have it if uh if you weren't slowed down by by being in vengeance right all right is that it that is it sir oh this was it yeah this was what i remember now nice yeah oh and that's great yeah exactly you got into klingon oh nice dr curlytech suggested tilting out if you get into the wrong multiball in order to move through quickly that is not something i would have thought of that is a really good thought thank you curly oh just because of the ball save yeah yep yeah it's on forever i'm not rubbing it in that's the that's the command to get the scene to switch and increment the counter i'm andy oh man oh [ __ ] you got it already oh my goodness my bad i don't know why i kept playing oh i am sorry you were like right behind him yeah oh snap i was like oh did i get it sarah sarah says lol you assume frisco and george have tilt bobs i do have a tilt bob yes and also soft boiled egg wants to change the command from i scored to suck it [Laughter] uh upper flippers are hard enough in real life so much harder on v-pins i reckon i would say the same thing that that delay i feel like can wreak havoc with with timing are you and you're saying you're not noticing any delay with the setup you've got right now no if you if you saw it i i've seen the delay that people talk about and that is noticeable this is i think the hardest thing on this is getting your angles right um your nudging can work almost almost like a real pin but getting the angles on the flippers like sometimes i'll tell myself okay 60 down the flipper is where the shot is because a lot of the times you'll be able to recreate it unlike in a real pin you know your flipper coil may your flipper power may weaken over time here you don't get that it's going to be pretty consistent so i was trying to hit that center i couldn't hit that center target i was trying to go right orbit so i could get to the upper right flipper and tag it but i just wasn't timing it right right um and serif brings up another really good question i'm just going to keep hitting you up with all kinds of vpn related questions which is uh he thought that the star trek v-pin tables are uh never thought the star trek v-pin tables were very good the flipper angles were off now um i don't spend enough time on vpns i feel like to know the difference between good and bad tables would you agree with that statement it's hard to so the great thing about the vpn community is everybody's contributing for the most part um right so you get a lot of different versions of tables there's if i could give a shout out you know the vpw team the vpn workshop team they use what's called end fawzi physics and those guys are amazing uh wax makes amazing tables as well his physics are really dialed in so there are certain guys that make or creators that make tables that you can sort of rely on to have the physics be very dialed in and some tables are just fun tables where they all move super fast and you kind of you know take a different approach to it it's really um about which version you get this version has n-fuzzy physics which are really nice because it shoots the way i want it to if i wasn't on this one i'd go to wax's version but the vpw team are kind of one of the gold standards for uh releases and you can always find their stuff at vpuniverse.com if i can give a shout out to that site that's where i get all my stuff oh man you shout out link you do whatever whatever you want the vpn community does not get enough i mean pinball in general doesn't get enough media attention but the vpn community even more so especially like you said for all the work that goes in um wax who's often in a lot of these streams actually i imagine the majority of the the vpn community is in a lot of the streams with you with uh mpt3k and other virtual pin streamers um but waxes is very vocal about his dislike i feel like for for for vpn games that that don't have good physics or if there are issues with them so x wax is very opinionated and i told him i was like dude does your version work with the pup pack and again the pup pack is the extra added media he he was he made a comment like i was like all right wax mr hard luck i get it i'm not a star trek uh aficionado i apologize i saw the costume and i thought it was cool so i apologize in advance for the pips being on the wrong location because they're supposed to be on the right side of the collar yes forgive me okay i mean i forgive you i'm also not not a big trekkie i'm into the the what is it the uh i almost said star wars trying to combine star trek and star wars which is just star wars if you do it the other way so i'm into star trek dart it both don't work i'm into wrestlemania i'm sorry paul you said you're into what battle star trek wars oh okay got it got it um no i i'm kind of curious can we just um do like a maybe a quick challenge uh just to kind of look at the physics of a little bit better on your table honey sure of course whatever you want i'm mostly curious about like a post pass and uh backhanding that left orbit sure so the post passing is really nice on vpns um let me see if i don't embarrass myself but i've been able to kind of dial it in a little bit on most tables so we got one there yeah yeah that was a good post transfer also house hardy says poser when was the director's mother's cousin's date of birth it's like a comic book guy reference so let me try that backhand real quick okay sorry center drain that one is a little tougher so um the good thing with the in fozzy physics is you can sort of uh there it is you can you can dial in the uh drop catches a little bit better um but the backhand like on the batman 66 version of uh the tribute table you can do the backhand to the penguin scoop penguin scoop pretty consistently so it's nice to um nice to see when you have a consistent shot obviously in real life you're not going to be able to hit the same shot every time just based on life so should george have a handicap of not being able to hit the left backhand the left orbit oh wait a second i thought he said he could backhand the left orbit so i can just have to i definitely have to time it right i haven't got it so i haven't done it consistently enough on my own but i can i can sort of see the spot that it's supposed to go to it's just a matter of getting it to the flipper location it looks really tight i've seen you come close and it looks like you're gonna come close to it and it's it goes the direction i didn't think it would but it overall look i think it looks amazing and it looks like you're having just as much of a yeah it's just a matter of playing this is george's yeah it's just a matter of getting with v pin stuff it's timing and that's why making sure you have zero delay on your software that's so important so right now like i hit these buttons and the flippers go as i hit them that is the only way i think i could i could ever do i could ever do vpn would be with with somebody who knows what they're doing setting it up so that way there is no delay if there is some i don't know what the the smallest number of microseconds is that a human can experience it but if if you hit that number of milliseconds and micro milliseconds um it gets really frustrating to me and i immediately want to stop playing i picked up the uh was it the arcade one up pinball machine and the delay on that was probably about a quarter of a second between flip and or maybe even an eighth of a second and uh and it was rough it was it was noticeable i mean i could still play the games and it was great in fact exactly what you were saying hottie about um being able to play sorry it wasn't whitewater it was whirlwind right like just being able to play whirlwind was uh was and that was whitewater on this one but just being able to play the game figure out the rules actually hit the shots was was huge it was just actually flipping it wasn't wasn't fun which was kind of yeah those the quarter sized cabs um the pinball cabs are a little tough to get because they have their own software you know arcade one ups using fx3 um uh or zen studios yeah that is fx3 sorry and then at games has their own stuff uh it's hard to i will say the biggest thing about v-pins is learning the software it is i consider myself somewhat technically knowledge schooled so it was a bear to learn this stuff there are so many different pieces of software you have to make sure are working right right and i've been doing this for over a year and i still like i said last night i spent an hour to two hours just making sure this table was set up properly luckily nail buster the creator of the front end uh pinup popper came out with something called the baller installer and it does almost oh well just referenced hours to do before uh also i do want to throw out so we've got um one two three new members of tpn both on the stream and in the chat right now so frisco pinball uh new streamer serif uh who's in chat right now new streamer on the pinball network and house hardy uh so three of the newest members of tpn just from the last week uh all in chat right now how awesome is that i'm about to start streaming not not for tpn not just yet not yet no no maybe eventually maybe eventually i i know a couple of people on tpn oh okay i didn't wait that's don't listen to him george it's super easy barely an inconvenience yeah i have been to mpt's uh mpt3k's place and seen his pin the i don't i think he said something like six years of bottoming up ready guys oh my god he just ran in wow that would be happening i'm so sorry you guys can't hear that that was a raid and uh leroy jenkins just ran in a second ago it went directly into my ear holes it was perfectly loud i can't hear anything anymore try to tilt you're amazing thank you so much for dropping what up 24 beautiful people yet another huge member of the vpn community streaming community uh just read it so we are talking about v-pins right now uh and based on the background yes i uh green screens are amazing they're they're so much fun also your microphone disappears every time the colors on your microphone change right every time the green comes in yeah now uh i've got godzilla ellie coming in frisco you've got godzilla le coming in right yep yes i'm super excited i'm so excited uh do you know what the rough eta is do you have any idea so i was i was uh obviously in the discord trying to find any information i called my distro the new guy i went with he said they're in the export stage i'm not in vandelay industries i don't know the import export timeline but i he gave me a rough estimate on the phone of the end of the month which i'm kind of worried about because we'll be at expo and i don't want my wife having to carry a 300 pound box into the house by herself right you can usually tip the the people dropping it off yeah like just just keep a i would say a 20 but it was 25 years ago i don't know that a 20 doesn't post covet anymore but you know keep some cash also don don pan pan asks that background's nice is it godzilla stepping on legos here let me let me move again [Laughter] that's great also serif is getting a godzilla premium he estimates 2030 i think yeah i estimate they show up to my house or i'll phase them out nice it would get pretty funny in the face delivered uh while we're all at expo and you're back your wife has to battle godzilla lawyer oh gp the table before i even get to touch it oh yeah i i wholeheartedly believe that i mean i meant battling godzilla by getting the game into oh you meant that sorry i thought you meant like fighting well i guess the table you are godzilla battling other people or are you the humans i don't remember actually i think you are god's god you are godzilla okay yeah i think they phrase it as you're battling i someone's gonna kill me just like the star trek pins other kaiju so uh i think that's the terminology don't kill me please no no i don't know i just watched my first old school uh um godzilla movie it was godzilla versus mechazilla and i watched it with my eight-year-old and we both kind of fell in love because when godzilla gets on screen she's like and then godzilla's like rubber face kinda is doing weird things as it's stomping around and she just laughs and she's like this is hilarious and the bad dubbing on top of everything else like nothing matched up it was great also apparently the sd card is full yeah i don't know try to tilt pinball drop in some bits uh okay are we ready for uh let's see um uh objective number three was i close on that last one super close you were right okay okay just checking i wanna make sure objective three all right so here is objective three uh we are now on captain's chair this is going to be a little bit longer and this video as it walks us through says uh you have to complete the first or you have to complete the first mode and i skip actually completing it uh then you have to hit a mission shot either under the right flipper or the far left saucer complete the second mode and you want to complete these modes in a row or in a line and it doesn't matter which line but you do have to complete three modes in a line and that activates captain's chair depending on which of the three lines you do of the the triangle walls there's probably some can you get the captain's chair by doing the same mode three times uh no i don't think well that gives you three in a column i think as opposed to three in a row do both give you i don't know i didn't i did it last night on nero i was trying nero one two and three because that's the strategy but it didn't give me the chapter or the captain's chair award okay awesome okay okay well there we go now we know so captain's chair that's what we're going for on this uh no captains on nero 3. there you go so nick confirmed it nick is also really great with with uh with rules i suck at rules so are we uh are we ready to to give this one a go in that please please move it up do it let's battle that you got to give it like a full two seconds before you say let's battle are we in the right screen beautiful fight so uh the the commands actually switch the scenes and usually play some sort of fun graphic and it's just getting the timing right i remember in the first stream i figured it out about halfway through so now i've been on each iron battle progressively getting a little bit better i i hope that uh at the timing and switching scenes but this is paul's first time yeah yeah yeah okay uh you want to count us down yeah uh here we go three two one hit it now paul are you familiar with uh manu's countdown i'm not the feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling say that one more time there's this echo i'm so sorry uh that sucks up that's feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling okay that's it please say that no more time wait how's it go feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling all right uh i've got a couple of shots done there what are we going to do let's hit this right over i like hitting the right orbit because i can almost always trap it up nicely uh as it makes its way around damn it strange like that and then we do the next thing oh great so now i am ready to end this mode and i can get it in the left mission start or under the right flipper all right hottie's uh on his second mode right now shoot i need to set my game up here yeah but i'm on ball too that's the difference uh if you end up draining out you can start right back up again okay awesome oh that's right now the game will naturally choose a mission that gets you captain's chair [Applause] oh come on he's done with his second mode and just drain so he's going to enter his third bone now okay oh there you go you got it oh my god your drains are perfectly i was like just give me a little bit of a chance here's that starting keep missing shots here uh indiana jones likes the uh star trek out oh i got something out there oh no that was really close i think according to me there's that shot oh no ah tried for the drop catching little shot control alt deviant also jumping in on how amazing that outfit is yeah thank you kadeemia good to see you again so i'm on ball three i may also drain out and have to start back over well this is one of the longer challenges yes great solid start loving what the game's doing to me here oh come on you drained again right as i spin it jesus try nero all right i kind of cheated in that i went for the extra ball so um you can time out all these modes right or is it this isn't new enough stern to where they i think it stops them because i'm walking dead that one uh it's kind of same era i guess okay and you can time out everything really is that not a setting in the firmware i think so but i mean you can always add time to modes honey's taking a different uh line this time going on the the bottom row and he's starting trying to start his third mode all right i'm trying to bring in a multiball here but i cannot find the shot we got it we got it we got it we're good we're all good here we're fine also i'm in 2x scoring i'm just going to throw that out there all right you guys are both uh on your third round oh my god he's already on his third mode oh get in there [Applause] no no i got the voting ball oh damn it oh my god i had it am i out of this mode i am oh and i got three in a row i'm in captain's chair you can see it flashing perfect uh hottie's game just ended okay that was good timing then no you just as soon as you complete the mode you immediately get captain's chair oh so you're good i am good i am in it right now i'm gonna stop okay fan it george shakira motor oh my god yeah the fan is is is ridiculous red shirt george oh thank you control deviant yeah i mean i am so prepped for godzilla right now if there's a chant an opportunity for me to wear cool godzilla merch i'm doing it this stream existing brings me so much joy control deviant thank you and pindiana jones thank you all right so i'm draining that i scored in community i apologize i'm trying i'm trying oh yeah so uh it is so much easier for me because this is an old stern when you stop it and then restart it it loads up in less than five or six seconds yeah it's great yeah it's fantastic go jira hype we got that on prem the premium on pre-order indiana jones yeah i'm right there with you i i actually have two godzilla's on order because i ordered the pro um three weeks before it was announced before it was released or announced and uh and then when i saw the premium get streamed i'm like this is it this is this is my first new inbox le so uh yeah big mood frisco so does the captain's chair give you any special reward in the game yes a ogden there's three different captains excellent question three different captains chairs it's a super ramps super spinners or super pops depending on the three that you end up lining up and getting yes i got two and one of them i have tentatively sold all right or i should say traded with cash in for a uh jjp pirates of the caribbean nice stream playing both at the same time oh yeah there there might be that honestly we might go head-to-head ellie and pro like in the same hey there pinball fanatics it's your old pal k trevor wilson here you're all a bunch of nut sacks for watching someone play pinball on the computer are you kidding me come on learn a skill get a trade i know there's a pandemic going on but pinball geez you could be playing pinball you're sitting there watching someone else pinball you're like the sad guy at the bar who didn't bring any freaking quarters hope you have a great day cheers thanks so much for watching uh i can't hear anything okay we're better he gets away with it because he knows lots of people who want a godzilla yeah i mean everybody i feel like wants a godzilla at this point uh control alt deviant coming in with a tier one sub thank you much my hat's off to you and i hope you're a fan of letter kenny because that's who we've got uh running the big thank yous i don't i don't get sick of that either come on learn a skill right it's like it's like corey feldman roasting me i never get sick of it oh man it is i i never get sick of cory feldman roasting you i think it's great um oh shoot was oh somebody else mentioned uh pirates of the caribbean indiana jones i can't stand the game uh i really don't like it but uh tai isn't interested in trying to sell it so he's giving it to me where he makes some money and then i'm gonna put it up and make a lot more money off of it i think is really really what it comes down to and he gets godzilla which he is super interested in so that's the that's the current deal right now granted we discussed this and shook hands while we were both really intoxicated yeah this uh this sounds out of character for ty because ty's always been one to uh go for games that you can't find on location yes very true you know what i think uh drunk effort yeah exactly it was late we were at um sorry we were at dory hill yeah uh when that deal got made and everybody was drunk the majority of the time that we were at dory hill um totally shout out uh shout out to your blog post on dory hill that was a really cool read it definitely made me feel like you were there so thank you for putting that up thank you you read my blog that's awesome thank you uh i have a really fun article by the way i like i blog about everything books pinball computer stuff like you don't have no idea what it's going to be but uh i actually started a really cool article uh i've been working with um i've got two different operators that have given me now access to all of the information uh for years worth of operating like actual numbers so i it's fun i've got those in multiple spreadsheets and i'm building up some charts and running some comparisons on expectations and things that apparently most operators aren't doing like looking looking at the data and looking at the analytics of of like here's a really good example do you know what month makes you the most money in pinball february no i have no idea i haven't finished the analysis but those are the those are the the good questions like what's your what's your peak is it summer is it winter is it going to be around december probably not wow spreadsheet flex george i would i would assume it's uh quarter four four yeah i also would soon would assume october maybe is probably one of the biggest months because november has a holiday and december has multiple holidays january the same so maybe february somewhere around there i have guesses but there's that there's also what's the what's the average payback on a new pinball machine and that one i do know how quickly i'll give you an example deadpool paid for itself in 11 months on one of the spreadsheets paid for itself and that's without taking into account taxes uh uh and uh and um sorry the the fact that it's a it's a business investment and then also depreciating the value over time like there's there's so much you can do and and yeah it it essentially paid for itself very very quickly nov cambrie february indiana jones you should know that uh george is the only one who knows how to use excel i'm a gentleman on the streets but a freak in this spreadsheets oh my god this is good info new to being an opera new to being an oh try to tilt that's awesome yeah that's exactly i think a lot of people have a lot of guesses as to what it's like to operate without without knowing uh the financials and in a perfect world and i don't have this yet but i'm hoping the article gets more people to send me more information i really want kind of somebody who has maybe 10 games that they operate at different locations so more of a smaller uh operation i want somebody who has uh paid for establishment and then man i would love to get something big with like a hundred machines or so uh and i've got two uh middle uh middle tier dedicated arcades that have given me uh financials that i'm gonna be uh running analytics on anonymously so you we mentioned you mentioned the blog which thank you so much but uh but that's the next big article i'm hoping to get released next week we'll see how that goes that sounds really cool thank you yeah i i mean i was interested in that data so that's coming up now are we ready for no we are not ready for number four something i have to do first really quick you guys uh if you are not following frisco pinball you should uh that is twitch.tv frisco pinball uh i'm gonna do a can you type in exclamation point shout out oh hold on wait let me click here thank you pinsomnia gotcha no no nick's got it we're all good so click that link click the follow button frisco pinball amazing content creator has uh obviously one of the coolest virtual machines huge part of the the virtual community uh now has a physical pinball machine and for months we thought he was making it up but actually streamed it recently he's got an aiqle gorgeous dialing in all the cameras looks awesome and has a godzilla ellie on the way i'm excited uh also a huge new member uh to the tpm team so you guys throw those follows out if you're interested in in quality content i actually couldn't hear you but chat hurt you oh i said insomniac wants a battle with frisco next and avengers nice okay oh that's right yeah insomnia at home i can't ah i need to go back and build that spreadsheet figure out all the games different people have and so that way i know who i can set up battles between because man these battles are so much fun but objective four thank you for that by the way appreciate it oh my gosh yeah that's we're here for van like the it's it's it's promoting the pinball community in general promoting each other like that's that's the the reason for for tpm that's the reason for for even streaming in general um okay i did not make videos for all ten of these that's okay that's what i'm actually hoping to do okay great so at some point extra paul will be posting uh short videos to walk us through some of these yeah the ideal uh um yeah mptv tutorial is one that's short uh there's lots of uh tutorials that that are out there that you can find that are great um from bowen primarily you know right pin professor uh all those are 15 20 this echo i'm so sorry man no it's not you know what you should do when you talk oh yeah sure take the headphones off um no uh ideally it'd be really short and uh no shots would ever be missed okay right right you would all it would be the perfect game every time you exactly walk through exactly uh as long as i'm wasting time to watch a youtube video watching someone else play pinball nicely done um okay yeah so that's paul is eventually going to start building or is building i think those videos i'm going to throw them up on youtube and you're going to start streaming yeah i'll be recording and streaming at the same time and then i'll be cutting and cutting them and doing it again later okay okay awesome well i'm gonna walk us through vengeance multiball uh because i didn't have time to make the video but i'm gonna make the video so that way i'm prepped for the next time we battle on star trek um you have to hit the vengeance target a certain number of times and the the dmd will let you know uh the other thing you could do is build up your torpedo missiles and you do that i think by hitting these targets over i'm going to switch to streamer there we go oh my bad lost the playfield camera uh i drained my battery hard the other day and by the other yeah right so over here you can see boom we've got those stand-up targets i think you hit that and you hit that enough times it lights the torpedoes in the middle um but the big easy thing to do is just to hit the target in front of the vengeance hit that enough times it opens shoot a ball into that shot the magnet will grab it after the magnet grabs it you get shot another ball out hit the captive ball the temporarily captive ball and you are in vengeance multiball easy peasy easy peasy it is lemon squeezy for sure so um let's battle do you want to count us down and try mpt3ks oh i don't remember it isn't it copyrighted it is it's not copyrighted yet we should though uh oh before we get started indiana jones says uh played a real congo a few months ago for the first time which is perfect considering he's indiana jones you should own a congo uh i felt like i was transported into the mid 90s such a cool pin you can tell keith owen played it a bunch i feel its influence on his designs yep uh it is an amazing game one of the earliest the only game i've ever i think refurbished myself and loved that game played the heck out of it and got rid of it and made a couple of bucks on it so we are ready to fight mpt 3k says patent pending feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling plunge away yeah this is gonna be uh potentially a drainer uh dirty is for for both yeah got a drink oh damn what did you what did you do to it g reefer oh so i upgraded it to leds from incandescents put in a color dmd uh took everything off uh and uh and just cleaned it like start to finish oh crap uh and then installed a topper um alternate uh alternate lights uh sorry alternate translate art oh crap somehow i lock ball one as opposed to getting into the mode terrible oh man i drained while i got the vengeance open hopefully that doesn't ruin it that stays open right uh and i i'm trying to think of some of the mods i installed were awesome like you had to put pink lights under the the hippo that was great all right so phase one of vengeance started so i've got the ball locked now i just need to hit it with another ball how is it about i gotta start over oh no terrible dude terrible terrible i got it uh nick wants to remind everybody to uh not forget about that center button well done george and yep there's the shot uh hottie i i got it oh my god oh man sorry vpn community tonight is not yours i keep trying to say that we should handicap george where he can't backhand the left orbit you can only forehand it if it is difficult for hottie i will definitely not backhand it i will let you know i'm actually it's my favorite four-hand shot see the last game i wasn't having as much trouble hitting the vengeance shot this game i just i had right out laying trouble so ah yep man that was last night i don't know if you saw i put up three i think uh to 250 to 350 million games oh nice and but in between it was like massive amazing game next game right out lane right out lane right out lane done just awful that's how it goes uh pritch 33 thank you so much for joining us it's going really well in fact i scored a skunk i gotta get one here i got a gold medal before i was like oh can i transfer that over [Laughter] a ogden loves the movie congo okay is it is it uh i almost said timothy oliphant it's not timothy oliphant it's who's the curry tim curry is it the amazing accent that tim curry has in that movie i think that's his worse i would agree that in my opinion but usually he's so good he's i i love tim curry even in that movie he's so over the the thing is i think he's supposed to be over the top he doesn't have an accent right like he is faking being a someone who gives a philanthropist so he is pretending to and by the end of the movie he loses the accent congo i agree fuzzy cord i'm a huge michael crichton fan so uh if their congo was great jurassic park timeline is still i think to this day now i have granted i haven't read it in like 20 years but timeline was an amazing read one of my favorite books fliptronic asks is that bumper nugget with a beard yeah the face changer it is from earlier in the stream that's true weird right oh the andromeda strain fuzzy cord uh one of the first times i went sleepless in middle school i think was reading through the andromeda strain uh and i could not put the book down also yeah after a dramatic strain was sphere uh but andromeda strain with uh which is about this virus and there's a moment it was uh in if you guys haven't i'm gonna ruin spoiler from a book written 40 odd years ago but uh there is a virus going around and they happen to have a cure but the cure-all requires for the rest of your life that you take the cure-all constantly because the cure-all will kill you so you have to keep taking it afterwards and there's this this like moment where you're trying to the guy's trying to figure it out and and survive but he's about to die and now that i think about this my my description of it is so vague because i i it was literally i think six yeah you're talking about pfizer right now [Laughter] is the spoiler soylent green as people yeah yeah it is people all right uh hottie are you drinking anything this evening you know i was and then i was so nervous about the tech i just left it downstairs like uh as you can see we were we were having fun trying to get everything set up so right right yeah by the way guys these streams go off without a hitch there's never a technical issue it's super easy barely an inconvenience uh i don't even know why we always get together an hour before the stream are you okay there yeah i'm fine um because technically there's there's never an issue uh but no that's not the case uh we were all working together multiple issues on both sides until the very last second so hottie once again thank you so much for doing this thank you for dedicating a significant amount of time over the weekend and uh and today to making this happen oh my pleasure i love these i i feel honored to be part of them i have a blast regardless of score and my ego taking a hit i i i absolutely love these things uh the ones i do with manu mpt 3k are you know they were a great intro and a great uh experience so thank you for having me on oh man all right uh fliptronic by the way is pointing out the fact that the sd card is full so uh do you have an sd card how does this work oh are you trying to swipe i mean i'm unemployed now so okay okay so i'm gonna choose player nope not me uh discord that's what it is so i'm gonna make you bigger even bigger yep so we're gonna go like this and then i'm gonna do that and then we're gonna reposition boom and then we're gonna come up and go back to chatting look at that sd card is no longer full on the fly we'll fix that in post we'll fix it in post no big deal george your zip drive is full hey ogden dropping 100 bits thank you very much that is appreciated uh oh and i am drinking uh control of deviant a high noon sun sips vodka and soda with pineapple and uh you were drinking a corona would you like another can i get you a refill uh i'll stick to water you're sick in the water okay okay george your parfum par files are corrupted also my pylons are oh my god what's the phrase build more supply depots uh your pylons are exhausted your pylons it's not full build more pot no yeah i got nothing i it's been way too long since i've played um oh my god i almost said star trek i can't even remember the starcraft thank you george your irq and dma channels are conflicting construct additional pylons thank you yes construct additional ah insomniac it's construct definitely uh soraxo has a tech question by the way how are you handling remote sources ndi or obs ninja for vdo ninja or whatever it rebrand uh neither um so i'm using remote sources by using a media source but if you uncheck local you can do remote uh i did for a while use the vlc connector but the vlc connector has a memory leak issue so after about 20 or 30 minutes you have to turn off and turn it back on uh otherwise the the video and the sound quality starts to get worse and worse it just degrades over time so i have never uh i use ndi if i'm doing a multi-computer stream locally uh on the network and uh and i've never even heard of obs ninja so i might have to try that at some point we got a new pin today it's all blurry i don't get that it's all blurry i feel like there's a joke in there to help us figure out what the pin is um also your rar files are exceeding their partition size limits yeah yeah memory leaks are awful so next objective huddy are you ready uh yes one second take your time i need to i need to subscribe to your channel i forgot i wasn't subscribed oh my god you don't have to subscribe i just saw the subscribe button i was like hey wait a minute there you go oh the joke is that we got a new pin delivered today and got really drunk okay control all deviant totally the pin is blurry because you're drunk all right there we go i can't let's go you subscribe to don't panic flip i mean you're paying your money you're yeah you must you must die be a billionaire if you're wasting your money watching someone else play pinball i am ready okay uh hottie is ready also uh jedi mcmuffin welcome to the stream objective i five with that stuff uh all right oh this is the longest one kobayashi maru all right for this one you guys gotta get each one of the most no no keep it going keep it going explain because i don't have a video for this keep it up keep it up all right you gotta keep shooting shots and shots and billions of shots uh you gotta start each mode are they at the under the flipper since when did gilbert get such a thick new york accent oh he's always had a new york accent he has a new york accent i think so yeah okay let's continue i sir never know yeah they don't know someone else yeah rub a brooklyn accent on it okay yeah yeah uh yeah this is like the wizard mode basically right this is yes yeah so it's all the most hottie this is the uh first level wizard mode in this game there are three different wizard modes i'm gonna switch to me oh that's right i turned this off so that way it could charge it's fine we're fine here we're all fine we're gonna get back under deflippa um okay so the goal here is gonna be to complete each of these modes realize you can time them out uh you can also upgrade and do away team um you can bring in multi balls in order to get there but the goal is going to be to complete all six of these and that gets you to the first level wizard mode which is called kobayashi maru cool you just have to start it once you complete all six modes it does not start automatically you then have to go uh and hit the the vengeance shot which is open and for whatever reason after completing six modes you'd think hitting the vengeance shot is easy but i miss it every time yeah six lives this is uh on wednesdays i do wizard mode wednesday so this will probably be my attempt so i don't have to stream tomorrow okay let's get her done let's battle or not that's fine you don't have to i don't know it didn't work berate me steve ritchie uh start at the bottom right end with space jump okay that's a recommendation wax we were just talking about wax wax is opinionated uh regarding physics on pins what else were you saying that was really awful about wax hottie oh yeah he's just [Laughter] i was singing your praises wax i said you're one of two maybe three people that whose tables i always always try to go to yes wax is awesome a huge member of the pinball community and an even bigger menu a member a menu member of the vpn community i've been watching from the start nice try awesome all right do you have do you have wait do you want to do a standard countdown your own camera yeah let's just do a standard one i feel like uh it's getting out of control all right okay so three two one go i'm gonna try save the enterprise i'm gonna i'm gonna try what was recommended um so i've got bronze locked in and a dream hey you guys are tied on trains i see you cannot resist the work oh softboiled egg i am the worst at it yeah i cannot let it go i absolutely love that shot it makes this game what it is but on the plus side i can't i can't let it go actually i don't know that there really is a plus sign to that honey's got some really good uh ball control up top he's doing a lot of drop catches with the uh upper flipper nice there we go there we go okay that'll help okay [ __ ] the way the team was up oh no how do you enter this uh same mode again oh you went level two oh no oh i got a lock so i'm gonna go ahead and grab that it was three times where it miraculously either i nudged it out or avoided that right out lane hottie i'm getting destroyed over here i'm on ball three and only on my second mode this is not going well this may be one where we could call it early where are we both kind of like well we gotta at least take a second shot yeah you can uh you can definitely take a second stab at it for sure maybe more it's halloween or october get up there dude how many more shots do i need for the extra ball multiball multiball maybe multiball i hope it's multiball give me ah that's only ball two darn it i really obviously wanted that multiple you guys are like pretty even all throughout tonight you're uh you're both on the same mode here destroy the drill okay so i need to hit uh left orbit i don't know what warp i meant oh see it stopped the timer 11 seconds okay damn can't get this i'll take this extra ball though there it is thank you uh what year did star trek come out the 90 no sorry uh 2013. maybe i don't i could be making that up i feel like i should make that up i have the internet three final shot there it is all right so now i'm on my fourth mode i got three in a row so i think i'm also in captain's chair now uh hottie while we're doing this what days do you normally stream i feel like you you have a pretty consistent schedule yeah i try to stream at least five to six times a week i really just enjoy pinball i've kind of kind of annoyed my wife with it because how much i love it but um i try to do at least five to six days a week i'm trying to create a set schedule you know my goal is okay thursdays with thanos where i play avengers uh trl on fridays like total request live where people request tables on the v pin so probably take one week day off and usually do like uh i've still kind of figured out but i do do about five to six days a week so if you're up late please feel free to come watch virtual pinball after dark where now we have a real machine too so uh we're getting there i am sure somebody was offended when you said now we have a real machine george correct by the way it's uh it was released in 2013. it was 2013. look at me go i drink and i know things go for away team over there i think i do yeah i love that shot i love it when you can hit it under the flipper like that it feels solid prime directive let's see if we can bring in another multiball here nope let's try it again uh honey by the way you do have a ton of uh hits on that center shot with your uh your center button there oh nice thank you didn't know that [Laughter] see if you i would i would get into a mode first before you use okay so no double score in bronze medal 60 seconds on this one how awesome is that oh i had five of them damn it oh wow try again well i had five so i'm happy with that yeah that's awesome i'm at five the farthest i've gotten or if i ventured on this table yeah the uh the score doesn't really reflect it here with the four points over on the left for george uh but this has been very close uh throughout the night i think yeah i hope so otherwise on facebook tomorrow it's gonna be having a fun day i like advertised it in all the beep vendors but like come watch me no i'll defend you there we go dude i love that away it is so awesome it's super cool i don't i couldn't tell you why but the one on tmnt that's really similar it just isn't it isn't the same oh there's one on ninja turtles yes that's cool but it's not the same feeling as nope yeah and nowhere near as satisfying as this really hard okay plus it sometimes drains you out on the turtle table obviously did that little move on purpose i'm just gonna let that drain obviously super on purpose we'll go for away team there oh no let's try that again shall we thank you all right space jump on my last mode can't get an extra ball punch it but i really do thank you for picking this table because i would have never spent as much time yeah it's a lot of fun it's george's favorite Steve Ritchie table yeah it is it is it would be it would be game of thrones if not this for just for flow wow that was excessive game t-rex multiballer right are you in t-rex multiball right now it's a lot of like vibration on the all right now i am about to start the first wizard motor got it casual wizard mode for work it's the first level and a 20 million bonus but so kobayashi maru is also a fun mode like it's not just the layout of this game it's the the lighting on it like it is so easy to figure out what to do you don't you don't have to think about what to do in this game the game literally walks you through it and it's still so so much fun and then in this one you just hit every shot twice that's your that's that's how you beat this oh you got it yeah okay i'm draining i'm sorry ooh wow i just there was 33 million in in just a couple of shows this is 100 million i think my high is like 45. um i think that was my score earlier that was your score earlier tonight yeah absolutely oh man no this this uh table plays like butter yeah on top of everything else this table is so dialed in hottie it it's it like the the right pitch to play it i've got new rubbers on the flippers um it's set to factory standards on like outlane depth and uh i waxed it about two weeks ago so it's not running fast but zero lag yeah i've got all the best hardware running this guy here so no lag whatsoever on the flippers oh that's too funny high scores like the uh the bucks last year versus like the local d3 team in football i don't sorry would you say oh buccaneers uh tom brady thank you i don't know why i was thinking of the milwaukee bucks and i don't even like basketball they just won the championship so that would work too yeah pediata jones 120 hertz with g-sync um okay so what do we have next does anybody need a refill on a drink um i'm okay okay awesome in that case we are up to objective six it is 11 42 we've still got time uh boat with mr scoot welcome to the stream some boat whiskey oh speaking about that mr scoot i do have a new whiskey and if if i if would you if i made a whiskey would would you a small whiskey not not okay good that i i have a new whiskey it's really good i'll go grab it i can't believe you subscribed to no don't panic flip i mean you're paying your money you're yeah you must you must die be a billionaire if you're wasting your money watching someone else play pinball all right so oh you know what actually it's probably better here i'm just gonna cover your face but that is 291 uh small batch colorado rye ooh you know what i can do i can switch over to discord boom look at that [Music] look at all those awards that has to be a good whiskey right there right okay control deviant doing a shot with us uh i'm gonna pour us a couple of cups though this is uh i have drinks left over from fliptronic's visit so i'm going to drink this okay okay so paul with regards to your youtube channel like are you going with extra paul or is it bumper nugget tell me more about your channel uh well i don't have the channel set up yet um that's kind of the main thing that i've been working on uh the last few days is just security because i've had bumper nugget uh username for quite some time so it's attached to a lot of different stuff and i debated doing other names but everybody likes bumper nuggets so do you like yours with ice or meat i do like mine with ice with us okay good okay and same thing with then and you're planning on live streaming and then editing the live stream later yeah i think that would be the best way to do it um and then while i'm streaming i'm pretty much this isn't my play style but um i'm probably going to be playing a lot like Josh Sharpe or how he's known okay we're playing with sure which is awesome make a shot and then trap up wait is that is that a good description does he is are we shooting for playing awesome or when you say jeff sharp do you mean you're shooting for second place i don't have the credibility i feel like to get away with making that statement at all i just have seen him get second in so many games i just talked to him for the first time ever uh via email the other day so it's pretty funny you're just crashing okay totally let's just strike that one from the record okay janelle thank you by the way so much for that sub my hats off to you that is appreciated eloa i was wondering how you patched in a third stream until i saw your hand cross in front of paul's face right yes no no this is this is high quality and he happens to have similar games in the background to me as well and all the same artwork oh mr scoot cheers cheers by the way what do you think i think it's great man this is very smooth thank you yeah wow no no let's do that again that was great hottie do you want to get in on a cheers a three-way i know right like i said i have truly's leftover from fliptronic's visit so this is all i got up here can you get it really really close to the camera like i wanted the whole thing right there boom go clean clink cheers that was um no hopefully with the stream um we'll also be doing tournaments and leagues and things like that okay streaming those things as well right you're gonna be you you're you're building a setup to actually bring and stream directly from uh pinball jones locally right yeah yeah i have three games at home uh one of them has been out of commission for a little while which is just me trying to restore my jungle princess it's my baby it's my first game um my walking dead's working great uh world cup soccer is working great oh my god you got a world cup soccer oh what what game would you want to borrow if we were gonna swap out at some point oh boy stars oh do you still want to replace that playfield see i have the time now you do have the i have the playfield right there um i'm sorry what could you do wrong it's a play it's a i know cpr platinum certified something playfield i've never done it so okay that's i'm just nervous about the whole thing and of course i would record it at least locally oh my gosh yeah you'd have to stream replacing a playfield just so that way it was uh it was available so um now some people i feel like hottie get into virtual pins because they don't have the physical space and it seems like i i is is that why you got into v-pins initially or did you just see it as a huge opportunity to play multiple tables why go v-pin as opposed to physical yeah the latter i really didn't know how much i would like physical pinball right until i went through the v-pin journey the v-pin stuff was kind of happenstance yeah before covet hit uh just kind of look at the different things i was playing the ps5 a lot um and then when covet hit we were all working from home and so i just had more time to dink around on my laptop and i found a plethora of websites about pinball i was like oh snap i can play whirlwind again like this is perfect um played it when i was a little kid and from there i was like okay everything slowly opened up as far as uh options and i was like oh i'm gonna try a mini tabletop back to the future themed cab and i was like no if you're going to do this right you have all this space upstairs get a full cab and then i slowly looked up people that would make them and i found a really great guy on facebook shout out to mike etherton he made this cab from scratch i am not a woodworker so i could do the electronics and he built the cab sent it to me and from there that's where we are that's awesome also uh janelle just pointed out that that is a really cool mic and that was one of the first things i commented on before we started streaming is that disappearing mic too it is a disappearing mic as it goes green what is that mic the sound quality coming through is super high quality what thank you yeah i had a blue yeti uh nano before and then i rated loose flip one night and i was like holy crap what are you talking into so loose flip uh graciously explained it was a hyper cast quad x s something like that but it you'll see it on amazon when you type in uh hyper hyper cast quad s and so it is it's plug and play like there's very little i had to do and the colors are just it kind of it's kind of a nice little accent touch on your screen oh yeah yeah it looks awesome the only issue is when we're using a green screen exactly it disappears okay are we uh are you ready for objective number six yes okay i don't know what it is so gold medals objective six it is vengeance scoring oh so correct me if i'm wrong you got to get through vengeance multiball and then vengeance scoring is the like if you got the vengeance multiball again yes yeah so you have to go through vengeance multiball uh and then exactly as paul said i'm just gonna start vengeance multiball again yeah same thing again time uh and you don't have to complete vengeance scoring you just have to get to it that's all okay i think i got it okay you want to start us off sure uh let's battle oh i screwed it up okay let's battle yes [Laughter] awesome okay uh you want to count us down sure uh three two one plunge paul we need to get you to come up with something unique in yours right the yeah yeah let's uh for local events uh for george here or anybody else who's in the fort collins area we uh having like a casual league tomorrow and uh one of my good friends uh who's all the way up in cheyenne wyoming is gonna be hopefully there and uh gonna be promoting the uh first ever wyoming flip frenzy that's happening this weekend cowboy classic awesome i have never been in a flip frenzy every time someone describes it to me i feel like it's um have you ever had somebody who has no spatial awareness or ability tried to describe to you all of the items that are in a room and it just sounds like a black hole sucked everything and came out the other side in a random position and orientation i mean it's kind of hard to keep track what happens during a flip frenzy to be honest with you i've never played in one i've only run them because you need someone to do that it's not impossible to play and run one at the same time got it got it okay uh nick wants to know if i'm going to be talking about any uh full flip outs um yeah sure i can talk about fall flip out paul what is fall flip out fall flip out is a limited herb qualifying uh there are kind of a pump and dump if you will so each player is going to have 15 entries over there uh ten different tables and the uh five best goes towards your um player card i guess everywhere okay so um yeah there's uh two days it's a two day event at uh pinball jones in old town fort collins and that's gonna be on november 13th and 14th all right saturday for qualifiers and finals um sunday morning okay and sorry what's the dates on that again november or something i believe it's november 13th and 14th if that's a saturday sunday i'm in i'm in wait have tickets gone on sale yet i'm not sure on that it's uh jackson's show oh okay does jackson normally run tournaments no he's new to it but uh he had helped out enough uh with uh just the people who had written it previously that he was able to talk to them and just get it all set up okay fairly easily um but uh i'm sure i'll be helping out with that too there goes my fam he's he's the uh poster boy for it he's he is the poster boy minor danger there it's fine we did not move the pinball machine into a different state nick so is that uh stuff happening we're i'm seeing some uh display issues on your play field every now and again hottie uh is that happening to you no real life that is just transmission okay yeah now it's pretty soon sometimes when i stream there will be uh stuttering and lag and it's just uh just obs doesn't like to play nice i guess because everything in front of me looks pretty good i used to have issues with uh video encoding um locally but fix that so hopefully it's looking better no so yeah softboiled egg if you see that where uh i think of it like tearing it looks like i think typically just on the left side of the screen uh that is transmission and networking issues also if you guys have ever seen a battle before this is the first time where we have completely synced video and audio on the person with just a minor delay on the the game and the the play field and we fixed that by initially using trying to use discord but discord was being a jerk so we're now using google hangouts to do audio and player video which is coming through nice and clean uh and then of course on a green screen because uh hottie is just awesome uh and completely dressed up and allowed me to throw a uh a godzilla uh image behind him right we wanted to we wanted to throw people off yeah and pinsomniac is mentioning we used to do it and build in delays um but that was awful uh to try and build in the delays so this worked out really really well specifically because we only had one person remote i think we can actually achieve this with multiple people being remote um but you'll that for for me this is such a huge win because we have uh uh uh hottie's um video synced to his audio and and that comes through separate from desk camera which typically has a maybe a two second ish delay at uh at worst well i had to drain but i did complete vengeance multiball i just didn't complete it again okay oh i'm stuck i i have to take that lock shot and in order to get back into making my all right i got vengeance multiball ready see if i can make the shot nope there we go so there's a ball lock i think i need three more shots in order to qualify vengeance score okay uh captain zanzibar also wants to comment on on your uniform howdy as well so captain zanzibar welcome to the stream the consensus is that you won just by showing up in the right uniform yes i do think i should get one point for dressing up you you totally get a point for dressing up there's no question oh no i had to make i had to make xander proud to let you know that your pins on the wrong side wait whose pin is on the wrong side his uh yeah that's the second person to comment on the pin being the house hardy when uh when they were on earlier i see uh mentioned that uh sorry what was it you don't know the the director's second cousin's mother's name uh hop dog ready with a party of seven hot dog my hat's off to you thank you so much uh welcome to the stream hop dawg what were you streaming this evening if you're yes you are on what were you streaming this evening and for those seven beautiful people coming over guys we are in a battle right now it is uh me versus frisco pinball uh frisco pinball amazing uh vpn and physical pin streamer on twitch if you are not following frisco pinball you should and we are playing star trek one of my favorite games it's been so much fun and if you have any questions you should ask paul right there that was really fun to do that [Laughter] oh did i dream i didn't scoring hey i did it your invention ah nicely done yes i got a legitimate victory very well done uh okay hot dog was streaming aiq and then some of the new sesame street and old new space jam okay heck yeah ooh i get to use this hold up hold up challenger scored i i i really i i cannot say thank you enough for introducing me to this table it is a freaking glass ah it's so much fun it really yeah like when i get more space after i pro i'm probably gonna sell a couple arcade one ups so i can fit another couple pins i'm probably gonna have to look at this one as one of them it's um so if i can make a suggestion if you end up going to go purchase it there is uh the the pro the premium and the le there is uh the le only went out with the original uh build in 2013. um and there was a pro i think in the le that went out at that time i don't know that they had a premium um and then they uh vaulted it just a few years ago and put out a premium that was amazing for a premium red arbor with the lollipop uh uh covers around the the buttons um it still had the lasers on the playfield but the biggest reason to go premium or le is that um this is one of the few games that actually gets easier on the premium and le as opposed to most other stern games that actually get more difficult which is very frustrating in my opinion xander yeah xander loves this table it's it's such a great table there's a few people who don't like it zach manny doesn't like it and he's just unfortunately wrong for for not liking it it's a great table the the flow the rule set on it is simple but it's also very straightforward if you're somebody who's interested in in mode progression this game rewards you with some very fun wizard modes once you get him so it's kobayashi meru is the first one you get to the second one is enterprise and muk uh which i've only been to twice now and then the third one the ultimate wizard mode is five year mission and that's the reason to hold on to this game i think long term is to try and get to that uh yeah i think this is one of the first games uh at least one of the first few years that they were doing the three-tier model with the pro the premium and the led did they do the premium on original launch or did they only do the premium on uh on vault i believe they did it on launch okay um can anyone name which uh stern table was the first to have all three tiers oh um i've read about this this was a trivia question somewhere on pinside shoot well if this came out in 2013 and you think this one had all three so it would have to be the best it does so uh tron only had the two it was just the pro and the le okay which was 2011. yeah deadpool was 2017 i think or maybe 2018. oh man yeah it came out after you and i you and i roughly got into pinball around the same time and it came out okay okay oh yeah got it yeah exactly deadpool came out after that i there's a i don't know what came out between 2011 and 2013. it was an ac dc it was ac dc nicely done a good pull wax yeah also thank you hopped on 2012 right around the same time that the uh first pinball table with an lcd screen came out was your boss oh yes well so that was a but i feel like i mean ac dc versus star trek though they kind of splurged on their le here in a way oh yeah oh yeah they absolutely so it's a huge value great great value uh also worth pointing out uh um hottie if you end up going if you can find the the premium is nice the premium's awesome but the le has into the armor and the side of the cabinet uh holes and lights so uh and and i can't show it easily here but but when i when i'm running my normal stream and i switch to my camera my phone camera i try to show it off every time because it's gorgeous but there is an etched lit up design in the armor for the the enterprise and coming off of that are spots that light up red to show a laser going off inside the blue metal armor and the blue armor i'm sorry is that klingon during klingon multiball no that just happens on the outside of the pin uh on a timer all the time okay yeah i see it on on my cab i can see the the lights there's a light that kind of goes vertically on the side oh yeah that's exactly it okay gotcha yeah this i'd i'd probably have to do an le honestly my uh ocd would probably kick in right you have all leds except that you went premium on this one and just every time you walk into your room you kind of just start your your you start twitching like yeah you can't can't do it yes i'm primarily a pro guy personally i like most games that are for us and and i would agree except for a couple where the game stern most of the time makes their premium and les harder to play and in every one of those instances i'm against it so uh stranger things as much as i'd love that beautiful purple armor i would not go the premium or le because the telekinesis lock doesn't work and it rejects it back down the middle ghostbusters the slings are magnetic they're not physical slings yeah i think between ghostbusters and walking dead those are the two walking dead that's the thing that comes up that fan uh you know pinball enthusiasts are like the pro is way better mm-hmm jurassic actually i heard that jurassic park is easy to fix the the issues with the the t-rex so maybe maybe jurassic park goes the the other direction on it i prefer an avengers pro myself avengers pro is well because that wasn't the marble ramp very much on the fence for okay because i like the the raising spinning disc but i don't uh the raising spinning disc is like a marvel ramp yeah i like a good spinner so is that why people on pin side when they're selling their stranger things like les or premiums they're like the lock is dialed in because they want you to know it's not kind of screwed up yes yeah that said i've never heard of anybody's lock being dialed in except for eric from straight down the middle and even his is only at like and and he has spent so much time on his and his is at like 85 percent consistency and his is the best i've ever seen yeah that the telekinesis lock up the left ramp faye welcome to the stream star wars pro oh the star wars pro is much easier than the premium because the premium a has that ramp that comes up right and you have to hit the ramp and hit it hard enough to where it actually goes up in and gets locked and it rejects all the time which is super frustrating serif i am not a pirate's uh it's a fine table but them having a ce doesn't really do anything for me so oh man but that's hopper that topper is so cool with the cd oh man it's the it's if you guys aren't familiar with it the topper is a ship in a bottle except the bottle has moving waves and the ship moves around and it's huge it is it's great it it it's either that or the um black knight sort of rage topper the best two top or something hands down the best topper hands down the blocks down hands down yeah okay it scared me the white water topper says sarah are you saying the white water topper is the best me oh sorry pba i skidoo says what's pba pin buyer's anonymous for people he commented earlier that we are a support group for new collectors of pinball machines yeah the white water topper is awesome what that black knight topper is first time i saw that i was like oh my god this hobby's gonna drain my wall very very good it's so good i have considered repurchasing black knight just for the topper except i don't like the game like i've owned the pro it's brutal you were you were uh you were zach minnie's saving grace by the way did you ever catch that no oh they had a uh i used to have a really long commute to work um but there's lots of reasons to to listen to the pinball show um zach and uh dennis dennis got into a huge argument about which topper was the best topper and dennis emphatically said that nobody is buying black knight just for the topper and then if that same day you stream and i would buy that table again just for this just for the top the top are so good it's so funny too because i think the better game is the pro and that one because it's more brutal because the the premium and the le slow it down but at this point i'm so unhappy with how brutal the pro is and how it makes you make shots on the shot it forces you to hit the center shots and the center shots will often drain so it's just it forces you to hit the evil shots in the game and that's just not nice that's why i feel like that's don't you feel like you missed something with that without the upper play field you do right because it's inconsistent with black knight as a whole but the game plays better and faster and so much more brutal it's like game of thrones first game of thrones uh game of thrones pro vs game of thrones premium or le the upper play field just slows the gameplay yeah yep and game of thrones is already kind of i never would have called it an easy game but at this point it is a super easy game like it is the the flow on it it yeah and i'm not gonna keep going down that that road but it's it's an easier game should we do a challenge we should totally do a challenge i'm so sorry uh objective seven thank you rad oh this one has a video we need to get into double scoring this one requires you to hit the warp ramp 10 times oh great great what shot aside from the warp ramp the second most important shot is that left orbit yes okay so but i cannot i'm going to take uh i i can't i can't hit the left i can't backhand backhand i'm not backhanding the the left orbit okay okay just play with both hands tied behind your back okay do you want to get us started here let's battle it doesn't like my voice george i finished i don't know why it was so much we sound so similar let's battle all right i am going to candace down this time uh and i'm going to use the mpt3k famous countdown feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling plunge away wait we didn't spend a whole lot of time on that video we did not that you made so which uh sorry refresh my memory which objective is this one again this is objective seven okay which is just a you go double scoring specifically we're trying to get to double score right all the warps okay yes yes which is i threw two in there that were nothing but the warp ramps because i love them and i'm so sorry um uh hottie that i chose something that is really hard to do on the virtual table honestly i'm having a blast so don't even sweat it okay do you think i was gonna ask you about uh your lord of the rings if you don't mind answering i don't know what you're talking about yeah i was going to say do you think if you had a different the le it might have been different or no no yeah no um you know i was i was hesitant uh when i when i when it when it went up for sale i was hesitant because it's just not my style of game i guess i'm not super interested in in ridiculously concurrent games where you can do 15 different things and in this case it it it's kind of evil i feel like and that it requires you to do these like 17 different things in a row and if at any point you do them out of order or if you make a single mistake it sets you back it's just it's it it's just frustrating i kind of i don't know i feel like they could i'm getting a mixed consensus consensus on the table like some people love it some people hate it um playing it will take you just as much time as watching movies the extended collector's edition it is a long playing game so if you like playing pinball for a long amount of time go for that one this needs to let me know at all times what my warp is give me both ball one lock split next metals start a mission 12 combos current warps zanzibar you are team frisco four more yeah faye uh i agree with you uh faces that he loves lord of the rings but he would never own right like it's one of those fun things that you can do while you're on location baby next game let's go that was terrible uh by the way have you guys ever ever heard of a rage room yeah i've heard of a rage room i uh i got to do a rage room for my birthday what did you smash the tv with uh a sledgehammer so if you're unfamiliar with what a rage room is uh it is a room in which you're given things to destroy other things you're going to be a rock star in a hotel for a few hours yeah exactly so i had a bat in which i think i destroyed about 15 different ceramic and glass mugs i got to hit um it was like 30 30 30 plates that was great um on a barrel so it's one of those things where i had a huge sledgehammer wound up hit it like this and the barrel goes in and pops them out so at some point i'm expecting a video of the plates being smashed and then being thrown all over the place like rain wow i'm i'm really looking forward to it yeah captain zanzibar it's it's therapeutic and uh and cathartic yeah they've been around uh for a while i think probably yeah i've seen them before escape rooms i've always been way more i think for parents it's a must yeah yeah exactly oh man uh oh no that sucks there goes ball too i think i am one shot away right now oh my goodness this one is just knowing your progress i think i got up to four up to four okay yeah notice uh howdy once you get up to that upper flipper you have like no problem repeat warping oh yeah if you just getting the timing right on the turn yeah and then you can yeah boom done done i think i just got three in a row so i should be around four or five now nice serif is isn't wrong so when i did buy lord of the rings i knew that i would have no issues selling it and i that is a huge part of why i buy certain games that's how i felt about uh world cup soccer but um i don't know i also feel like world cup soccer is uh underrated in a way it came out in uh around the same i i piece it together you got it i got it i just got double scoring nice all scores at 2x right i place world cup soccer along with tales of the raven knights and theater of magic which are like seven thousand dollar games yeah what we're out in this well i mean they were seven thousand dollar games along with you can throw attack from mars and and uh medieval madness in there too but um medieval is 15 on the website now for the royal edition yeah so let's open it up and uh theater i think okay along the same realm of that sure sure it throws circus full tear in there too i'm hoping for chicago cgc redoes totem as their fifth but uh maybe world cup soccer not a seven thousand dollar game not at all but it has the same flavor and feel it does as every other papa giorgio papa John Papadiuk what's the guy's name john popper dude john popa duke there we go yeah i'm not sure i would buy one though at this point i am just buying old solid states that are rare and certain ems okay faint i get it i get that yeah i scored that did not work i think i i did work oh it did okay that's right it just boom zanzibar says step it up wax lander keep it up and you'll never get a tna okay a buy one for everybody in washington but xander um uh hottie we are 20 minutes past 12. um i don't know where you are when when do you we haven't quite hit our our 10 goal but we don't have to finish it at this point when how many more challenges do you want to do or when when are when are you out of time i mean it's up to you i usually stream till 3 a.m central that's oh my god i rape you constantly when i'm done you're not working right now so you're good right yeah i'm absolutely okay cool cheers oh shoot you are out well i'm gonna i'm gonna go uh outside and feed it dirty ah that's not cool that's not cool all right so while paul is smoking we can get another one of these uh another one of these challenges done second place andy welcome to the stream world cup soccer has the most balanced scoring rules out of the papa dukes i like it i think it's a great game it sucks that it's soccer but at the same time i now that i'm two seasons into ted lasso i'm okay with soccer well you've heard what i said sorry skin does pokemon pokemon i i'm not i'm not a pokemon person i'm never talking one person either but oh it's the spinning ball it's the spinning we've talked about this actually yes i've been there i remember i don't have alzheimer's yet yet okay uh what does a objective eight nope didn't get there nope objective 83 boom here's objective 8. all right we have to get a gold medal and you can do this on any mode you want nice yeah yeah this one this one should be this one this one should be fairly straightforward you have to hit all the shots and you can't drain out if you drain out it's fine you can either start the game over if that's easier um or you can uh hit it into an away team start another mode however you get a goal you can you just do it gotcha gotcha i ski just says george just leave your stream running until tomorrow i need the channel points i ski do i think are are you going to expo and i think we're already getting tattoos at expo so if you're gonna make me get a tattoo let's just get it all done at the same time oh i hope i hope a lot of people go with the expo it's gonna be fun yeah oh so uh hottie are you going to expo yes i will see you there i'm bringing free frisco stickers uh frisco pinball stickers i'm excited i'm really excited oddly enough for that stern factory tour i've never i'm not like that that to me is pretty cool um i'm gonna play in a couple of tournaments i'm registered for that uh pinball olympics with you and then the flipping out tournament on wednesday and then do some more stuff whoa whoa sorry what is the flipping out tournament or enough flip the the pre-expo flip okay the yeah the the pre-expo so i'm in the free expo tournament on wednesday and i'm in the pinball olympics on friday yes that's what i was i'm in those two yes faye oh man you're you're missing out but oh uh and and i've said it a couple of times but i am headed out to go hang out with faye and mrs fay aka lana which is why that's a sound when he comes into the stream normally i've got the sounds turned off right now it's a it's an archer fun a fun archer reference um but um i'm headed out there to go do uh it's uh the midnight uh out by fey in november and then two days later do the midnight again in denver but with vip passes so we get to meet the band it's gonna be awesome i'm so excited the frisco disco club i like that i'm excited for people to for tpf next year that's in my that's where i live frisco so it'll be cool to see everybody kind of come to come to where it's held right near me i'm like five minutes from it so if you need a ride don't ask me there's so many hotels right next to tpf seriously there's the dreary inn which was fine uh there's the hotel that it's actually taking place at and then there's like you pass another hotel walking over oh yeah frisco is crazy the national video game museum's here and right behind my house the pga headquarters is opening up they just built a golf course if you're into golf so uh it's getting crazy here okay so tpf happening as well guys we have three more challenges let's get her done let's battle cool i'm gonna count us down here uh we are going for gold now uh frisco do you know how to achieve a goal yes nine shots uh on any mission and within the time limit and then something with the away team lowers it it yeah it changes it up and oftentimes it's easier to accomplish sometimes in my opinion it gets harder one of them and i don't know which one it is makes the stand-up targets you have to hit all of them and some of them are super hard to hit but it's basically nine shots on any mode yes and then black hole gives you more time etc okay exactly black hole gives you more time also rad verde faye introduced me to the midnight and since then i'm a fan i have all the records i listen to it all the time my daughter's favorite band is the midnight she knows all of the songs by name uh she can't sing the lyrics i don't think anybody can because they're all there's no repeated mantras or or refrains or anything like that it's just a guy singing and his voice is so weird it works perfectly with the music so let's get her done feel the rhythm do the thing eat the stuff and here's your bling plunge away nero all day xander good start solid start i like what the game's doing to me here making me work for it hit another shot that's two i've got two done i think i'm at four i think i'm at three okay or oh get up there oh i got bronze [ __ ] oh no you can keep going keep going yeah yeah yeah you keep going so once you get what you get bronze and then you get silver and then you get gold so as long as you don't time out nero is the one with the stand-up targets whose choice was it to do nero i have a silver medal right now and 19 seconds oh i got silver i think crap i missed it there's one so i've got three more shots and 14 seconds left never upgrade nero says nick thank you where were you five minutes ago oh my god i can never hit the i drain i got a gold medal though the game knows it's not the game knows captain zanzibar gifting a tier one sub you're amazing thank you so much my hat's off to you captain zanzibar oh we're not getting any of the sound or the video i don't know what happened there on the alert but the alert died thank you though uh i can't believe you just subscribed to don't panic flip i mean shoot i don't remember how it goes anymore like i could do the v speech right now but i don't know that i could do my beyond my own announcement for that five minutes ago he was here assuming you knew better so wait does that count i mean i got i i i don't know does it not count for some reason i mean it showed up on the dmd i think it counts you must be a millionaire [Laughter] thank you very much captain zanzibar another amazing streamer uh by the way uh streams i think like three captain zanzibar how many games do you have in house you have earth shaker you have pin bot and i feel like i've seen you play other games i don't know if you're going on location or if you have a third game or if you're like rotating things out retro uh the switch right also plays other games as well and then streams on location at local bars or pin you know arcades whatever uh and i ski do no i do not write the script i told uh gilbert godfreed i said um uh big fan aladdin is still to this day one of my favorite films uh i stream pinball and people watch me play pinball can you make fun of them for doing that that was that that that was that was that's what i asked and that's what i got in the video by the way that video goes on for like another 40 seconds with even more like that's that's my edited cut at some point i need to give you guys the full video um i can't believe i got the gold on that i thought i drained out it gave it to me as as i drained out it gave me the gold i think i had like i got the silver and i was like maybe two away but then i drank i scored all three fun so i don't know what's left uh what's next gilbert godfrey's real voice real life voice is actually very calming it's startling oh between the the voice he does yeah got it it's funny i don't think i've ever heard gilbert godfrey talk normally yeah there's like youtube videos on it it is kind of startling okay so objective 9 oh that is the wrong objective screen let's try that again objective nine there it is okay uh oh cool we need to start a level three mode okay so that's what you were talking about earlier when you went nero three you don't have to complete it you just have to start the third don't you hey stranger things i know right hey i'm sorry do you need a refill no i am good i probably should drink some water at some point uh it is second place andy it's just start a level three mode you don't have to finish it uh which is interesting i'm just thinking about it right now good time out yeah you could well you could time out or you could no you can't drain that's right so you but you can time out a mode oh we need to give uh uh extra paul here a second to get uh reconnected back up uh does the new jp the pen look better than mando serif uh i need to see it played um it actually looks really decent i imagine the rule set on it is uh is is gonna be somewhat lacking i also i don't know if the new uh pins will offer integration with the online components that uh stern is doing doing i i'd imagine with as inexpensive as they are that's a that's a no yeah no qr connected inside or connected yeah insider connected that's sorry i have to drain real quick oh no you take your time no i watched the uh previews of the jurassic park the pin today there's no it doesn't have the thing over here to do it okay yeah no i think it's safe to say that that won't be included yeah that's i think how they keep the price a little bit on the on the cheaper side okay all right yep good to go let's do her up so i'm gonna hit that we are all there i don't know why i almost muted myself just a second ago i should not touch any of the stream deck at this point okay so we are on uh start a third level mission let's get her done uh do you want to count us down absolutely boom fights all right here we go three two one plunge does the table choose space jump automatically on time at times i don't i don't know what happened there i gotta say i had that happen last night it was just you know i had to choose space jumper uh i've noticed on the uh the pro that's uh on location at pinball fans that it takes a few flips for it to change i don't know if that's what was going on here for george but um he's committed so i'm committed yep oh that was a mean game that was so mean but um regarding star wars or not star wars jurassic park the pin i think uh stern's making an excellent move with that i think uh they're making getting a lot of attention on the uh the home pin that they didn't get before uh just by having jack gingering involved yep completely agree i think they i think they they nailed it with timing um i i wonder if that's going to turn into sales hope so i hope it works out for them i think they uh they did what they could uh with um the budget that they wanted to present i guess for for the affordable version right yeah uh mr rage quit dropping 150 bits thank you so much oh that was i'm just gonna i'm just gonna pat myself on the back there completed the mode it fell down drop catch right will it let you into the mission though crazy to think 5 000 is oh no i can't change the mode what just happened uh hottie how are you doing i'm on nero 2 i have five shots left george is uh unable to really go after this challenge i don't know do i dream and just start up a new game i somehow i walk in i think that's yeah i think i think you do but i'm playing really well right now i'm still on ball one and i completed that mode like gold perfect as as well as you're playing you are not progressing towards the challenge that's been presented but maybe the next one will be fine and then i can go back and do save the enterprise it won't budge you don't think so no we'll find out right here i think appreciate that i'm glad you like it it's not letting me change the mission i love that logo all right i am ordering the denim shirt and black hat they're actually cool not only because of pinball but also stylish not hashtag not team frisco's that's captain sansa all right that's it did you just start the third i'm about to zero three punch it nicely done man even if i had the ability to start at level three you still would have beaten me there that was really well done thanks i swear i'm decent at pinball challenger scored i feel like i am oh yeah no no the majority of these have been super close yeah and uh i think you have um your game does not play as buttery as this one does ever i can't say enough positive things about this ellie it is such a it is such a great pinball machine yeah oh yeah yeah mr rage quit frisco is definitely rocking the star trek suit it looks awesome [Laughter] okay last last one for the night we need to destroy the vengeance which means start i think it's level three on the vengeance so just shoot that center target and shoot your action button missiles at all times edit yeah basically any time you get it you need to go through a vengeance multiball vengeance scoring and then destroy vengeance and you just need to start that mode gotcha gotcha this is it last one for the night and you want to do the honors let's battle that may have been way too quick i'm so sorry you gotta give it two full seconds i'll stop talking now let's battle oh my god let's battle [Laughter] we got there eventually you you you need to use the announcer voice apparently sure sure paul's like no your computer just hates me it's personal it's very personal all right this is all about bashing the middle captain zanzibar said it right are you ready we're gonna go out with an mpt 3k launch hottie are you good i'm good all right feel the rhythm do the thing eat this stuff and here's your bling plunge away bash that middle there's a joke somewhere in there thank you rage quit this was the surprise i was talking about i kind of forgot what i was doing if i'm being truthful right now i'm like oh yeah yeah i can get like warped uh four i got five dude don't don't shortchange me on that one well when i saw you get four i was like okay yeah he's not he's he's playing a very different game right yeah got it okay so vengeance multiball started get up there nope that's coming back no uh i'm gonna go ahead and grab that no extra ball i drained but i did get through the first vengeance i knew there was there's a method to my madness that wasn't completely insane it was only sort of insane uh softboy old egg wants a large frisco denim shirt you can go to if silverball doesn't have it teeth spring has it teespring oh man so frisco how do i go about getting your very cool sweat uh silver ball swag has it i love those guys or um you search my name frisco pinball on teespring.com or whatever the website's called there's a bunch of stuff there um tumblers this is whatever they would normally sell but i would strongly recommend going to silverball swag those guys are super awesome super supportive though uh there's a link in my channel usually somewhere but if you go to this week in pinball i'm one of the promoters along with don't panic flip and all the other awesome streamers awesome yeah i gotta i gotta get me some of that uh vaporwave merch still not backhanding that left orbit because we said that was a rule i am trying to add a ball by hitting warp nine point eight or nine right i'm on vengeance scoring nice okay i'm on ball three so this is not going to be good oh i'm now on ball oh there it is give me a ball save nope damn it oh start again oh no yeah unfortunately i got the vengeance scoring on ball three i liked uh becca's suggestion the other night for some of these uh end game challenges which is setting the game to terminal oh and just keep going yeah i thought that was a smart way of of doing it instead of uh the constant restarts but at that point is it who got it first or who got it in the fewest balls yeah i think it becomes uh who got it in the the fewest ball okay so now i'm in dungeon scoring i think i'm i'm really close to getting warped 9.9 or 9.8 and and a second ball added which is so crazy because the fact that the game works with two balls in it just blows my mind who stands a bar have a great night thank you ask you dude but do not buy from stream elements please they their stuff is not good please don't buy from there xander bought something from there he watched it once and it frickin got destroyed thank you for the thought ice cube i appreciate it please do not buy from there hey captain zanzibar thanks for hanging out have a good night thank you xander sorry the kraken lost i was watching it a little bit that sucks first time the seattle hockey team has played mr rage quit i don't know um that's a really good question i wish i could tell you there is or there you go what was the question just is there another way to pay other than paypal on uh silverball swag oh do they only accept paypal i love that name though silver ball swag yes so it's cool when i hit the vengeance shot my fan goes off i get a gust of air i'm gonna blame the gust of air all right so i'm in another multiball but i couldn't get out of that appreciate that drain out of that and i guess let's go ahead and destroy the drill and now we have looped around the warp ramp there we go [Music] oh one more shot to unlock the vengeance here let's see if i drink puncture oh my god might happen it might happen all right cool this one here gets into vengeance battle oh no excellent time to live catch got it i think i got it got it so this should be vengeance battle which is what we're going into right i think i believe so i think it is i don't know objective 10. it is destroy the vengeance oh i actually have to beat this nice soft boiled egg i dropped the ball that sucked ah start over start over frisco you got this we'll see you got this i do like this this challenge a lot what just the mando uh oh they just headed to the center over and over and over again yeah makes pinball simple i'm such a wood chopper of a pinball player like Banzai Run is my favorite machine so bonsai room is a great container what's that i said it really is a great machine though yeah but it's i mean it's the textbook definition of a woodchuck okay at the same time you just do the same thing over and over and over and over and over again right over and over and over again but it is really satisfying yeah yeah i just like the grind especially i mean if it wasn't if half of it wasn't on the backbox it wouldn't be nearly this entertaining but um i don't know there's nothing quite like Banzai Run like the name of the mission to punch it i feel so important but i like the name of the missions like punch it prime directive uh the one that you're on right now according to bo and karen's is uh nerd oh it's supposed to nero because you can't tell no because the the dmd makes the o look like a d two more to access vengeance for level two how you doing over there uh i'm at the same about the same spot i think i'm about to access vengeance with a few more shots but i'm on both three unfortunately all right i'm invention scoring and this is it so if we uh you're allowed to you're allowed to restart once but if we both have to restart again then i think we we take it as a tie okay shoot the ship okay i'll try got it all right vengeance scoring is done extra ball achieved by defeating the second vengeance scoring i kind of forgot about that you get another extra ball over oh damn it i had one more on vengeance scoring shoot i think i'm over all right let me see you bring us home i'm trying oh no this one over here let me see if i can get there it's a little funny whenever uh whenever you drain out frisco you let us know before we actually see it all right how many more shots do i eat there's four more does the pension shot shake your table it does yeah okay i'll take that mission start ball lock number two sure i ski i think the toddler team would fit you so you've got hats you've got denim you've got fanny packs i'm in the vengeance battle now we need to beat the vengeance up beat it up what about you guys quarter holder so you got those i need another quarter holder two three more [Applause] oh is it still lit no i didn't destroy it i have an extra ball it's not it's not lit though it's oh no it is totally lit look at that shoot one got it destroyed the vengeance nice no i didn't apparently i need to hit the drop target in sudden death uh 10 of my score destroy the vengeance there vengeance defeated oh my gosh well done nice job thank you thank you bam all right frisco that was amazing that was fun yeah dude that was super fun thank you so much for for battling this evening and for hanging out and being one of the newest members of tpn mr rage quit dropping 255 bits that is appreciated my hat's off to you even though there's a difference of five points here each one of those five points was pretty darn close right right it was it was super every match was super close seriously that was a blast yeah fuzzy cord welcome to the stream i feel like actually you've been on for a while i'm sorry um and uh so you guys this evening if uh you are not following frisco pinball please do so uh if can sorry do my exclamation point shout out and then space frisco pinball all one word somebody's gonna get it before me no oh i'm sorry hold up hold up what'd i do i don't i you you did you did great things you did nothing wrong now you're good to go now we're in there pin zombie x shout out thank you nick wins absolutely so if you guys have not followed frisco pinball please do so click the link click the follow button frisco's amazing wonderful content creator one of the newest members of tpn that's the pinball network lots of great things coming i think we had five or six new members uh in the past week and a half we have actually i think a few more members to announce this week uh and then we have other huge news coming in the very near future i can't wait to be able to share it with you guys uh on top of that i've got extra paul aka um bumper nugget bumper well no sorry what was the other paul name there was extra paul and then there was something else at a pole adipol there we go there's extra paul adapal and bumper nugget if you guys are not already following bumper nugget you should be because bumper nugget will start twitch streaming very soon here i can't wait hopefully you invite me to come be on your stream at some point yeah absolutely okay cool yeah so we'll go hang out over and play some world cup soccer at uh at bumper nugget aka extra paul aka atypal uh at uh his uh his abode and that's gonna be super fun also uh wait what is what is the pinball network hey the pin insomniac thank you so much for asking that question if you're unfamiliar with what the pinball network is i have an amazing commercial that we can end this on about how uh the pinball network could be uh potentially the perfect drug to help you get through those really hard times that's what's the cold one which one the cold trip one the cold oh it's the it's the pills oh okay sorry we have we have pudding we have pills we we had one very briefly for kool-aid that didn't work out very well and then we 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