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Episode 59 – Chunderstruck

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Sep 7, 2017
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TL;DR

Pinball podcast covers Expo rumors, Dialed In review, tournament drama, and industry news.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast Episode 59 is a casual, meandering discussion covering Pink Panther movie trivia, pinball industry news (Stern Brazil production, John Trudeau arrest, Heads Up Championship details), community drama around the Trash Talker Invitational tournament, Jersey Jack Pinball's Dialed In machine review with build quality praise, and various local repair and machine setup updates. The hosts speculate on upcoming Expo announcements, discuss leaked/rumored machines, and address interpersonal tournament politics.

Key Claims

  • Stern Pinball is moving production to Brazil to avoid heavy tariffs on imports

    medium confidence · Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discussing Gary Stern's Instagram posts; Stern did not officially confirm but the hosts infer from the post

  • Heads Up Championship will be held in Las Vegas at Hard Rock Cafe during Big Buck Hunter tournament week, with a new Pro Aerosmith as prize

    high confidence · Ron Hallett citing clarification of previously unclear details

  • Heads Up Championship uses a goal-oriented format on two machines with head-to-head play, not score-based

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale explaining the tournament format

  • Jersey Jack Pinball responded immediately to a help desk ticket on Saturday and shipped replacement lightning bolt pieces the same day

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale describing his Dialed In unboxing experience

  • Dialed In build quality is significantly higher than Stern machines Bruce has owned

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale's detailed comparison after receiving new-in-box Dialed In

  • A certain pinball designer does not like Roller Games 2000 because the show was cancelled before release

    medium confidence · Ron Hallett reporting information from Keith Allen; unconfirmed designer identity

  • Jersey Jack Pinball is expected to announce Pirates at Expo; Stern expected to announce Guardians of the Galaxy or Iron Maiden

    low confidence · Ron and Bruce speculating based on pattern from last year's Batman announcement

  • The Trash Talker Invitational booted Mitch (Massachusetts State Champion) due to poor performance and is now inviting outside players with a $100 donation bounty to Project Pinball

    high confidence · Official letter from TTI Selection Committee read on air

  • Dialed In ships with latest code version 1.13 and defaults to free play for home use

Notable Quotes

  • “Harrison Ford. It is Harrison Ford.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~5:00 — Resolves dispute over backglass artwork on an unspecified pinball machine using a morphed image comparison

  • “They even stabbed their own in the back... they were scared of number three”

    Ron Hallett @ ~25:00 — Expressing frustration with Trash Talker Invitational's decision to boot their own Massachusetts champion

  • “The build quality is much higher than any Stern. I've ever had four or five new in-box Sterns now. It far surpasses them.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~45:00 — Significant endorsement of Jersey Jack Pinball's manufacturing quality compared to market leader Stern

  • “It's like they called the pop-upers jets. Someone is really hammering home the Williams terminology there.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~52:00 — Observing Jersey Jack's intentional design homage to classic Williams pinball terminology and aesthetics

  • “I managed to get it downstairs with help of my stair-climbing cart. I got it set up all by myself with my PB tilter.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~60:00 — Demonstrating practical logistics of receiving and setting up a heavy modern pinball machine

  • “I'm just old school. You're just old.”

    Bruce Nightingale and Ron Hallett @ ~56:00 — Lighthearted exchange about Bruce changing high score table from 21-character default to 3-character retro format

  • “They probably know that too. That's why they did that. Because that's another typical New England maneuver right there.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~30:00 — Alleging strategic gamesmanship by TTI in avoiding known strong competitors

  • “All the coils start firing. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, and then when it finally boots, it boots up, and then it's happy.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~65:00 — Describing a bizarre electrical glitch on a Space Station machine requiring diagnosis

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonZach SharppersonGary SternpersonJohn TrudeaupersonRaymond DavidsonpersonKeith AllenpersonKeith Elwin

Signals

  • ?

    product_launch: Stern Pinball appears to be establishing production facility in Brazil to avoid import tariffs, based on Instagram posts by Gary Stern

    medium · Gary Stern typed posts on Instagram alluding to Stern Manufacturing Brazil; hosts note this was not officially confirmed verbally but appears intentional

  • ?

    event_signal: Heads Up Championship confirmed for Las Vegas at Hard Rock Cafe, same week as Big Buck Hunter tournament, using goal-oriented format with Pro Aerosmith as prize

    high · Clarification provided by hosts on specific venue, prize, and unique game format

  • ?

    community_signal: Trash Talker Invitational engaged in controversial player management, booting Massachusetts State Champion Mitch due to perceived poor performance while avoiding stronger competitors

    high · Official letter from TTI Selection Committee read on air; hosts characterize behavior as typical regional gamesmanship and fear-based management

  • ?

    product_concern: Dialed In unit received with broken lightning bolt toy (shipped as two pieces when should be one), requiring Jersey Jack support ticket resolution

    high · Bruce Nightingale's unboxing experience and Jersey Jack's rapid replacement response

  • ?

    product_concern: Dialed In received with assembly error: Big Bang Target wire positioned directly in front of target, preventing ball from hitting target

    high · Bruce Nightingale had to manually relocate wire after noticing issue during setup

Transcript

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0:00
Heather, tell us about your date. Well, when he first showed up, I thought, he's cute and built and kind of sensitive. Butthead, first impression? Uh, well, Chuck, I thought she had big thingies. So then what happened? He took me to the quick mart. Yeah. I bought her some nachos so she'd, like, put out. Really? Did it work? Yeah.
0:22
I scored, Chuck. Cool. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Chuck Webster, you're challenging us and we're going to get you. Another wonderful accent attempt by Bruce. Yep, I'm going to keep them up. Yeah. And this is episode 59, A Shot in the Dark. Boy, it sounds almost like a porn movie.
1:10
30 seconds in, we were going to edit. Right. I think it would be called A Shot in the Something Else if it was a porno. Well, some people like those lights out, you know. Turn the lights out, remember? Steel Panther. Oh.
1:24
So in this one, this is really the first true Inspector Clouseau movie. Yes, with Peter Suggins. Where he really gets the character down. I recommend it. It's also the first appearance of Dreyfus, who becomes very prominent in future episodes. It also has Elky Summer in it. Kato. Kato is in it for the first time. So this is really the first true Inspector Clouseau-style Pink Panther movie. You know, it's not called Pink Panther. Recommended. Very funny. I don't think Bruce has seen it, though. Nope, not at all. I haven't seen the 70s ones, not the 60s. I was going to watch today, but unfortunately I had to labor on Labor Day. Bummer. But I got two and a half times the pay.

high confidence · Bruce Nightingale describing his machine's configuration

  • Dialed In uses Williams-style cabinet design and mounting system from the 1990s rather than matching Stern's playfield mounting approach

    high confidence · Bruce Nightingale's detailed technical comparison

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    Martin Ayubperson
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    design_philosophy: Jersey Jack Pinball intentionally designed Dialed In with Williams-style cabinet from 1990s, including Williams terminology (calling pop-bumpers 'jets'), leg plates, and mounting aesthetics

    high · Bruce Nightingale's detailed observation of design choices and comparison to classic Williams machines

  • ?

    machine_intel: Jersey Jack Pinball expected to announce Pirates at upcoming Pinball Expo based on speculation pattern from previous year

    low · Ron Hallett speculating based on 2023 Batman announcement pattern; explicitly noted as speculation

  • ?

    machine_intel: Stern Pinball expected to announce either Guardians of the Galaxy or Iron Maiden at Pinball Expo

    low · Ron and Bruce speculating without confirming source; described as expected based on product cycle

  • ?

    design_innovation: Spaceballs proposed as alternative pinball game concept replacing Roller Games 2000, featuring Ludicrous Speed ramp, Mega Maid toy, and selectable characters/villains

    low · Keith Allen suggested concept; hosts discussing as hypothetical creative exercise, not confirmed project

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Zach Sharp made first official statement as Stern Pinball marketing director regarding John Trudeau arrest situation

    high · Zach Sharp's statement published on Pinball News; hosts note this is not ideal first public action for new marketing director

  • ?

    operational_signal: Bloomingdale's New York City location features both Dialed In and Star Wars pinball machines with default 21-character high score table setting

    high · Bruce Nightingale observed configuration and flagged potential for profane high score entries

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Bruce Nightingale represents notable positive sentiment shift toward Jersey Jack Pinball based on Dialed In build quality significantly exceeding Stern machines

    high · Repeated statements of high build quality, responsive customer service, and conversion from skepticism to advocacy

    • 2:10
    Boom. So I'll take that. I'm looking at the screenplay. It's by Blake Edwards, which makes sense, and William Peter Blatty. He's the guy who did Exorcist. That's weird. That is weird.
    2:21
    All right, so what are we going to talk about here? I want to get one thing out of the way immediately. Here we go. Harrison Ford. Yes. It is Harrison Ford. Okay. People are saying it's not. Well, can you explain to our audience what happened? The morphing picture? Yeah, the morphing picture. Who sent that to us? Was it Joe or was it somebody else? I forget who it was. That's why I have to look. Look it up. I want to give credit here. Someone sent a morphing picture of basically, I think it was the movie poster. Yeah. And morphed it into what's on the back glass and is exactly the same. It is Harrison Ford.
    3:00
    Is it? Yes, it is. Hold on. Let me go. I got to get to this. I have to go. I think it's on Facebook on the Slam Tilt Podcast page. Yes, please check us out on Facebook. I'll do that early this time. We can also be found on YouTube. I was thinking of, and I'll run this by the listenership. I was thinking of putting the podcast actually out on YouTube also, just to use our channel in some way. Just throwing it out there. If anyone has any reasons why that would be a good idea, I can start putting those out there.
    3:37
    Still looking. He's still looking. I'm still trying to kill time here. I see that. We can get back to that in a few seconds.
    3:44
    Yeah, I don't see where we – the problem is everyone freaking sends us everything, and I can't find it. so our listeners send us stuff like we ask them and that's the problem yeah no the problem is it goes to everywhere it goes to everywhere yeah but yeah i know i forget i think was it joe or was i forget who it was but somebody did send us the morphing harrison ford thank you for the morphing harrison ford picture whoever you are i am terribly sorry bruce cannot find your name you're the one who brought it up i didn't no bruce cannot find your name it's your job you're a social media director.
    4:18
    Whatever. But yes, he has ruled out that now it is truly. Harrison Ford. It is Harrison Ford. So, let's see. News. News of the, piece of news. Piece of news. So, let's see. We got, let's get this out of the way.
    4:39
    John Trudeau. John Trudeau's arrest. Yes. Which, I noticed we weren't the only podcast that said, if you want more info, just go to Nate Shivers' Coast to Coast Pinball Podcast. Pretty much every other podcast said that. Some avoided it. Yeah, they're smarter than we are.
    4:56
    But Zach Sharp had to make his first official statement as the marketing director. Not the way you want to do it. He made a statement to Pinball News, which you can read by going to Pinball News' new site. Go to pinballnews.com. We're not going to repeat the statement. You can read it there. And check out their new site, which they've – well, new format. It looks all brand new and cool, and check it out. It's pinballnews.com. Very good friends of ours. Both of us know Pinball News, Martin, very well. We saw him actually last at – where did we see him last? Was it at – Well, I saw him at whatever show I went to last because he's always there. Yeah, I know. So I probably saw him in Texas.
    5:44
    Probably. I probably saw him. I saw him at California. I think he was there. Oh, yeah, that's right. He was. He was there. Yep. It was good to see him there. So, hi, Martin.
    5:56
    Stern in Brazil. What are they doing in Brazil, Bruce? Well, supposedly Stern is going to be making a production in Brazil to avoid the heavy tariffs when products are brought in to Brazil. And supposedly Gary didn't say this, but he wrote it, that this was going to happen. So it must be true. Okay. That's honestly, you know, he actually quoted that today or yesterday. Instagram posts alluding to Stern Manufacturing Brazil. Yeah. Yeah, Gary didn't officially confirm anything. But he said he typed it. Yeah. Okay. That's denialism coming in, boys and girls. They're not moving production to Brazil. So don't worry, folks. Not the whole production. They're just moving production down there to get around the tariffs. Because I've actually gotten a lot of re-imports from South America myself. And they're all in bars that smoke. So they're bad. Very bad. Smoke is bad? Well, once you had cancer, smoke is bad. Ah, I got you. Today is a good day. Well, sort of a good day. It's sort of a bad day for me. Okay. Is it a good day or a bad day? It's both. 20 years ago today, I started my chemotherapy for my cancer. I haven't really talked. Have we talked about that much on the show? We have. Not much. A little bit. Yeah. So I started my chemo rounds today. So 20 years ago, I started my hardest time in my life, and you guys all now suffer for it. Yeah. I bet you our listeners didn't know that's where the yawning started. Yes. He never yawned at all before the chemo. Never. Once the chemo hit, boom, yawn. Yawn, yawn, yawn.
    7:49
    So I'm looking at the news. Not much news, but we did get clarification on something we mentioned last week. Yep. The Heads Up Pinball Championship. Like, what the hell is it going to be? And where the hell is it going to be held, et cetera? Well, we know the what, when, and where now. It is in Las Vegas, the same week as the tournament for Big Buck Hunter. That's why it's actually happening. At the Hard Rock Cafe in Las Vegas, Nevada. And the prize is actually a brand new pro Aerosmith.
    8:28
    Yes. I'd go for that. I'd go for that, too. I'd go for that. And what kind of format is this going to be, Bruce? Two machines. and you're playing head-to-head against somebody and not in score, it's in goals. So it's World Cup soccer?
    8:45
    No. Oh. Oh, you mean goals. Yes. Oh, okay. Sorry. Fail. Sorry. It's goal-oriented. Goal-oriented. Yep, and I don't think you'll know until the game starts and they flip over maybe a card, and that's what you've got to go for. Okay. That would be interesting. Yeah. Especially if they don't let them know, and it's like, and your goal is? I think that's what it should be. You flip it over and you say, okay, and they both can see it. Like, you know, maybe you put it on a TV in between the machines. Yep, and you could make them even, like, quicker. Like, Metallica's your game, and your goal is start Gravemarker Multiball. Start Sparky or whatever, yeah.
    9:29
    So that's the plan. I think the qualifying, I think it's like, I don't know how much it is, $20? Then they're going to live stream it. Yep, live stream it. Good luck to them. This will be interesting.
    9:42
    And speaking of Josh, I think he is probably the world record holder for how many podcasts one person can be on for pinball. You called him a very unflattering name. What? The Podcast Whore. He is the Podcast Whore. But I love him. But I think Steve's trying to get that title.
    10:02
    Steve? Bowden. Okay, why is he trying to get the title? He's been on one podcast that Josh hasn't been on.
    10:10
    He's been on the Pinball Player podcast, the one I talked about last week. Okay. He went on there. Great interview. If you want to hear Steve again, found a couple interesting items about it, I'd highly recommend the Pinball Player podcast. I even got a shout-out on it. Not you. I did. Well, yeah. No one cares about me. But they shouted out because I actually thanked them for both of us. saying congratulations on the great podcast, but he said Bruce Nightingale sent me an email, and that was pretty cool. And we both were shouted out also on Buffalo Pinball. Oh, yeah, that I did hear. They mentioned me during their whole alien thing. Yes, about the alien. Me and Nick are kind of in the same boat with the alien thoughts, I think. Yeah, I kind of agree also. It is a pig in a poke when you actually get into that stuff. It's clunk-a-rama, baby. Yeah, and they actually told everyone that I am not in the Buffalo pinball this year. No, you're not. I'm not. But that will come later on why I'm not. Yeah, we're not going to mention that yet. No, not until it's ready.
    11:17
    I also got a shout out on that Flippin' podcast this week, too. Really? What did they say about you? They didn't say it. Colin said it. Oh, okay. The boys, Tommy and Taylor, gave a question to Colin saying, would you buy either, if you had your choice, a dialed-in, a new Star Wars, or ten classics. Yeah, then he mentioned he saw your picture and said, yeah, that's what I want.
    11:48
    It was very flattering. So I was very happy about that. They made me smile a lot. There was also a little bit of news personal with us. The TTI, the Trash Talker Invitation. These guys again. Yeah, I know. We actually give them, I think, a little too much time. Yeah.
    12:11
    We got their attention with Raymond Davidson. I know that. We did get their attention with Raymond Davidson. So would you like to read off that letter that they sent out today? The one that I should have up in front of me but don't? You should but you don't? Hold on. I'll have it up in front of me in a second.
    12:27
    All right, here we go. It's called Bring on the Paper Champions. Woo! Before that, they actually announced a new player coming in. And one getting booted. Mitch, I forget his last name. Yep, they booted their Massachusetts State Champion. Yep, because the way he played against Eric Stone. Because of his, they said his poor performance, even though they neglected to mention the first couple rounds that he advanced in, they just brought up the round he lost 4-0 in. typical classy you know that's what i would expect from those guys new englanders yeah they even they even stabbed their own in the back so the person who beat mitch eric stone got an invitation of course he did of course he did i think they did that because they were scared i think they're scared of uh number three and this is what we got from them This was today. Dear Slam Tilt Podcast, it's been a few weeks and you've learned firsthand what a futile challenge it is to find New York area players that are worthy competitors for the Trash Talker Invitational. Hold on. Let's stop that right there. Okay. We think we found one in New York. We just have to talk to the person. We'll bring that up after the rest of the letter. Okay. Go ahead. attempting to bring in a ringer from outside New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania area wasn't part of our deal. And we consider it unfair and underhanded trick to sway the results of the tournament.
    14:01
    It's a good thing that this is the kind of behavior that the Trash Talker Invitational Selection Committee admires. Feel free to expand your search into any corner of the world. In fact, we'll sweeten the pot. If you can find a top 25 player that feels he can beat the best of New England, will even give you an additional invite and will donate $100 to Project Pinball in their name. Wow.
    14:25
    Like I was talking to Bruce, I mean, I could think of one offhand, but I know he is predisposed on that weekend. Yes, we've already talked about him. And they probably know that, too. That's why they did that. Yes, of course they did. Because that's another typical New England maneuver right there. Yes. So I'm going to get the flight ready for Raymond. Yep, we're working on that. He was on the East Coast, actually, this week. He was in Washington, D.C. Hi, Raymond. Hello.
    14:51
    I think we're going to get our New York player and a little revenge. What do you think? If he's available, I'm sure he'd do it. I think he will. I think he will, just for revenge. Going back last year, our own Tim Balls was originally in it. And what did they do to him? They booted him. They booted him because they were afraid of him. Well, they said it was for other reasons. Yeah. Yeah, because he's from New York, et cetera. But, yeah, they were scared. They saw his increase in his ability, and they were scared. Very much so. Yep. Now, the funny thing is, this weekend, Keith Allen was in New York, so that means he's lived in New York for two days. We're in. Yeah. Come on back, Keith. Yep.
    15:34
    We did find another piece of information from Keith. Oh, yeah. I guess my Roller Games 2000 idea will not happen. Nope, it will not happen. Because a certain designer does not like that mention, that game. Yeah, which is weird because I think it's a great game. Yeah, but I think he's more pissed about the show getting off the air before it even was released. I think it left a bad taste in a certain designer's mouth. Yeah. So we have a new idea. New idea. Yep. We scratch all that roller game stuff out and we go with Spaceballs.
    16:09
    The hyperspace ramp is now... Ludicrous Speed. and then we've gone to plaid. You can actually make the screen go plaid.
    16:18
    I thought that was a pretty cool idea. Instead of the Death Star, we have Mega Maid. And then the selectable characters would be... The Princess. The Princess, Lone Star. Barf.
    16:32
    And what's her name? Joan Rivers. Yeah, Joan Rivers. I don't remember the name of the character. I just remember Joan Rivers. Or if you really want it, you can even do the Dark Side version of Machine. with President Scrooge, Pizza the Hunt,
    16:48
    what's the other? Pizza the Hunt! Innocent Lone Star and his rusty sidekick, Puke That Barf Puke Barf whatever I sorry But you have those two plus you have you can have what his name Colonel Sanders.
    17:11
    And you can also – who would be the fourth villain? Dark Helmet. Did we mention Dark Helmet? We did.
    17:17
    So that would be – we can do it, definitely. I think that would be our plan. So that's a new idea. Yep.
    17:24
    I think it would be millions. make more than Star Wars overwhelming. Yeah, I'm sure it would. So, I think that's all for news except for, well, we're going to get T-Sex into that TTI thing. You watch. That sounded so weird. T-Sex into TTI. Yeah.
    17:47
    Oh my. We've had enough oh my's lately. We need more oh my's. Yes, very much so. So, repairs. I did all mine last week. None? No, none. Wow. I got to see which one up and running fully.
    18:07
    Just need a couple of cab switches, which I used at the tournament at Buffalo. So I got to order a couple of cab switches.
    18:15
    They're sticking. And I tried your stuff. I had a little bottle of it. I tried that, and that just didn't work, even on those. So order those up. They'll be coming Thursday. so I'll be popping the switches in and going from there. So see which one will be completely done. Maybe someone will buy it that listens to this podcast and emails us regularly. Maybe she won't.
    18:36
    Hint, hint. Yes, I think by saying she, you kind of gave away who it is. Yeah, I think so. I got that all working, plus I did some light sockets on that. I actually replaced the connector on that. A couple coil sleeves.
    18:52
    What else did I do on that? Oh, I had to replace one of those pop bumper lights. Pain in the ass on the sterns. Good and bad. Because you can take the whole assembly out by unbolting the four bolts. That's the cool thing. But they're pretty tight in there also with that bracketry. So, bad thing.
    19:09
    Oh, what else did I do on a machine? Yeah, connector. Yeah, I think that's about it. But I'm working now. Up and running, doing this thing. I got 2.1 million on it before. 2.1 million? Yep. Got to make that harder, dude. It's pretty hard. It's fast. Yeah, gotta make it harder. That's too high a score.
    19:29
    Well, you forget who you're talking to. Oh, oh, the great Bruce. See, I like when you say it that way. Oh, you are so good at Sea Witch. Oh, bye. So I'm waiting for Sea Witch 2 so I can do the same thing and then go from there. That'll be nice to see and play.
    19:49
    Somebody set up a new machine, I heard. Yes. Yes, I did. And? I didn't play it yet, but I set it up. Fail.
    19:58
    Here's, I'm going to go over my dialed-in experience. Positives and negatives. And let's see, and I'd say at least one of the negatives will probably turn out to be a positive. Oh, my.
    20:13
    Since we're so negative on this, we'll start with the negatives first. Of course, that's our way of going. Of course, we just run on negative. That's what we do. So when I got it, it has the QED dude, has the lightning bolt thing that he holds, the two lightning bolts, and it's rubber banded to them. But when I got mine, it was rubber banded to them, but there was like two of them.
    20:39
    Like it wasn't, I seem to remember being one piece. Well, come to find out, it is supposed to be one piece, and it actually just broke in half at some point during shipping, I guess, because it was rubber banded to them. but it was like split in half. I'm trying to put it in his hands, and it's like falling. It's like, something's not right here. I think this is supposed to be one piece.
    21:01
    So this is where the positive part. I opened a help desk ticket, whatever, with Jersey Jack. They responded immediately.
    21:11
    This was on Saturday, and I sent them my address, and they shipped it out today, or at least I got the thing that they're going to ship it out. Nice. The lightning bolts. So that was quick. It was very quick.
    21:26
    Really, the only other negative, I would say, is the playfield mounting system. Mm-hmm. It's not much different than Stern's. Ugh. In other words, you pull the playfield out, and you get the little drop. Mm-hmm. Not quite as much, but you get it. Boom. And then when you push it back in, it stops. And you got to, you know, the little push technique there to get the playfield in. And I don't get that, being that they used a lot of Williams stuff in there, why they couldn't use the Williams, you know, playfield mounting. Superior mounting system. Yeah, system. I don't know why they couldn't just do that. The rest of it looked like a Williams cabinet. Heavy fucker, isn't it? Yes, it's heavy as hell. No one's going to steal it from you. It's extremely heavy. The build quality is much higher than any Stern. Yeah. I've ever, and I've had four or five new in-box turns now. It far surpasses them. I mean, the bottom of the thing. Solid hardwood. Yeah, it's hardwood.
    22:29
    It's heavy. So heavy. The head's a little taller, which you found out. Oh, yes. Yeah, you found out the hard way. Probably more to accommodate the screen and everything else. It's just that it's a little bit taller. But other than that, it looks like a Williams cabinet from the 90s. Mm-hmm. is what it looks like. They have the little metal things that the legs go on on the outside, like Stern does. But they also are including felt protectors in addition now. Oh, wow. Which, that was nice, because I was going to use my felt protectors, and then when I got it, it's like, oh, they already have them. Okay, that's cool. The other thing is they use the Williams leg plates, so you're not going to have splitting cabinets with this. and in addition to that whenever I would get a new stern game I would always tap re-tap the leg bolt holes because mine were always would always be stiff like when you go to take because when you get a new box game it comes with the leg bolts in the holes so you take them out and on all the sterns I've ever done they came out very hard and so I'd always just tap them just to be safe these all came out without a tool. Just finger. Boop, boop, boop, boop. Right out. No problem.
    23:51
    That was nice. That's very nice. It was very nice. I mean, the inside's very clean. The way, because it looks, they moved a lot of the stuff out of the bottom, so now it's just got the transformer in the back. It's got speaker.
    24:05
    Done. I mean, it looks done. I mean, it looks, and I haven't gone into the head yet to investigate. Check it out. I did read the manual, and I have my own custom level zero graphic on there. So that's pretty cool. Actually, I got to get a bigger version of it because the height is right, but the width isn't. It's not long enough, so it doesn't fill the whole screen.
    24:27
    I could put our podcast logo on there if I wanted to. That'd be interesting. There you go. That'd be really cool.
    24:34
    The menuing system's cool. It's all like a GUI. It has the same four-button system. Yep. All the terminology is like they call the pop-upers are jets. So someone is really hammering home the Williams terminology there. The only thing, well, a couple more things. The Bob's sign, what is it called, Crazy Bob? Yep. Number one, where it's positioned is stupid. It's almost at an exact angle where you can't read it when you're playing it. I've seen some people have moved theirs, which I'm probably going to be doing, because you can't read it where it is. Also, the Big Bang Target on mine, there's a wire that goes – it comes off of the wire form above the target for a switch. They ran the wire right in front of the target. Oh, boy. So basically, you actually would not be able to hit the target. It would hit the wire first. So I had to move that to where it should be. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, that would have sucked if I didn't notice it, but yeah.
    25:42
    Yep. And it was kind of a pain. I had to end up taking the target out from underneath, and then sliding the wire over and then putting the target back in. Then that was fine. It's where I assume it's supposed to be, because there's no other place for it to go underneath the play field in that area. So how long is it going to take before you play this thing? Four, five more weeks? As soon as I get my Cliffy protectors and put them in, and I'll start playing. After Expo. Okay, gotcha. After Expo? Yeah, you said it'd be three. You said it'd be three weeks. After Expo. Oh, so you think it's going to be after Expo? Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And Expo's coming up in only six more weeks. And I'm not going again. Oh.
    26:21
    Bum, bum, ba-bum. Ba-bum. So, overall, you're enjoying the quality. Oh, yeah. Like what I see so far, that's for sure. Okay, so you're a convert now. Well, I know the gameplay is good because I have played the game. So unless my gameplay is completely different than the other two or three dialed-ins I played, I should be good. Nice. It has the latest code on it, 113. Interesting thing is in the coil strength section, it has a couple of, like, it'll show you what the values are. Like coil strength, 21. So I have no frame of reference of what 21 means, but it'll show you ones that have been changed from default.
    27:07
    And the interesting thing is in the manual, it has all three flippers at like 21, which I thought was kind of weird because the one's a side flipper.
    27:15
    You would think that would be a little less strength. When I go into the menu, it is less strength. It's been cranked down a little bit. Oh, wow. But that's not the factory default. Like it's a different color. It's like if it's changed from factory default, it's red. So somebody must change that at the factory. It also has things I like, and I think Stern does this too. You can save the settings.
    27:39
    So when you do upgrade to a new version, you can reload your settings so you don't have to do everything all over again. That's really nice. Yeah, and I did change one thing. It's interesting. From factory default, it comes on free play. Oh, that's different. Again, so it's definitely for home use or considers it like a home use thing. Free plays to default. And the high score table is default 21 characters.
    28:09
    Oh, wow. You know, the full thing. Now, I changed mine to three because I'm just old school. You're just old. I'm just old. Well, they have – there's a dialed in at Bloomingdale's right now in New York City. And I noticed in one of the pictures, they have it set up with the 21-character high score table. I don't think that's a good idea. No, a lot of swearing can go on there. Yeah, it'll be like Trump sucks balls or something will pop up on there or something like that. I guarantee you. And they also have a Star Wars there also. Yeah. So they might want to change that. Oh, yeah. Or maybe they think just responsible adults will play it and kids won't. And responsible adults would never put anything vulgar in there.
    28:53
    Exactly. I know Bruce would. Oh, I'd be second. Yes, of course you would. I'd be sitting slam-tail podcast, oh my. No, you'd be putting other podcasts, sucks.
    29:06
    Suck it. So, yep, that was my dialed-in experience. More to follow as I actually play it. Packed well, no damage, no. Packed well, no damage. No damage. I managed to get it downstairs with help of my stair-climbing cart. or spare descending cart in this case, and I got it set up all by myself with my PB tilter. I was wondering how hard that would be with the tilter. It is a lot heavier. Yeah. But I did test it with the Guns N' Roses and also a Twilight Zone, so. Yeah, it was fine. Okay, good. That's good. Then I can actually put that on the list of good things to do.
    29:46
    So I have two more games downstairs. You have two more other than the Sea Witch? Yeah. Jesus. Okay. What did we get now? Well, one is Zach's actual game. Hi, Zach. I'm actually storing his Grand Prix, or as I like to say, Grand Prick.
    30:05
    You had two of those, and you couldn't get either one working. No, I had one. And you couldn't get that working. I couldn't get that. Well, I got it to working, and it didn't work, and it just was all fucked up. So right now, Zach's is downstairs. It was working until it gets to this house, and what happens then? And it breaks. It shit the bed. But now you can have Zach fix it. Exactly. You didn't have Zach before. No, I did not. What shit to bet on it? Keeps on scoring 100 points continuously. Stock switch? We're thinking on the stack, yeah. Somewhere in the stack.
    30:36
    But it's on all players. So if you've got a player two, it just keeps on scoring up. So I think it's on the true scoring stack. And then I have a space station downstairs I've got to repair for one of the guys out in Syracuse, Ryan.
    30:51
    Space station? Yeah, so it's weird. When it powers on, all the coils start firing. Okay. I haven't even looked at it yet. All the coils start firing, just start firing. Yep. Like on a switch, like on a coil test, or just all fire at once? All fire, like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, and then when it finally boots, it boots up, and then it's happy.
    31:15
    Hmm. Yeah, weird. That is weird. Yep. so Expo six weeks away yeah we mentioned that and we haven't heard anything about what like what's coming up what's you know what do you mean we haven't heard anything there's a whole schedule no I mean like the good stuff like last year we you know we found out about Batman around this time well we think Jersey Jack it's going to be Pirates yep which and then Stern is going to be it's either going to be Guardians of the Galaxy or Iron Man Iron Maiden Guardians. So you think it's Guardians. Okay. Oh, yeah. Hope my mother doesn't see that.
    31:55
    Oh, I'm showing it to her. Maybe I'll be able to buy my Sea Witch back. No, can't fit those games in their house. Oh, we can find a way. No. They need to get a wider door. I told him that. He needs to put a new door.
    32:10
    New opening if he wants games in there. Period. We can do it, Dad. No. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to someone. Listen to Sun 2. Listen to Sun 1. Sun 2. Get a wider door.
    32:24
    So. Mail time? The mail ball bag. And did we have any stuff on the site? We probably did. Yes, we did. So you can do that. Yep. We got the first one from the winner of our contest. Yes. The winner of our PB helper.
    32:42
    He says, hi, guys. Sorry that I'm now just writing back. I've been extremely busy as of late. And every time I intend to write, something has come up and slips my mind. I have received my awesome prize and have put it to good use. Unfortunately, I wish it was being used for other reasons, but it still helped a lot. I have to break down my game room for the time being for space reasons. Ooh. I have too many machines at the moment. That never happens. Come on. And nowhere to put them. Oh, well, okay. Or nowhere practical anyway. Okay, what's practical? Nothing practical in this world. I mean, come on. You can put one in your bedroom, living room. Get rid of the couch. There's options. It says, I am in the beginning stages of building a detached game room and workshop. Ooh. But what a summer we have had in years has pushed this back over and over. I couldn't hold out any longer and had to make some more room to store pins temporarily until the new structures finished. In any case, the pinball helper really made the job of breaking the machines down so much easier. I recommend it to anyone who sets up or breaks down pins. Thanks again. Thank you, Steven. Very nice. Bally Special Force is the subject line Bruce and Ron have either of you ever played a Bally Special Force yes we actually have one at the Sanctum is that the one with the extra buttons on the side and you fire missiles Yes What are your thoughts on it Burn baby burn Disco Inferno burn baby burn That's a 6509, right?
    34:14
    6803. I never, you know, I've got to write that down. I never get that right. 6803. I would say there's worse 6803s than that one. Oh, there is. Like, you know, Escape from Lost World, terrible. But, I mean, the missiles are a cool little feature. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, I don't remember hating it, and I don't remember saying, wow, this is awesome either.
    34:37
    So I guess that would be, I'm more in the middle than Bruce. Yeah. He says, this was the pinball machine that got me into pinball. My best friend had one in his basement. When I was in high school, we played the crap out of it for years. I haven't played it since the year 2000, and they don't often come up for sale. I loved it back then, but my taste and experience with pinball has changed. I found one locally, but the guy is asking way too much for it. It's in good condition, but I don't think it's worth $1,300. Would you ever want to own one, and what would you pay?
    35:07
    I would own one for $800. So you wouldn't pay $1,300? No. What happens if it was in great condition? No. Okay. What would you pay for one in great condition? $800. Still only $800? It's not a fun game. I think there's better games out there for that price range. that's from pete thanks pete hi pete thank you we got one from jim it's a captive ball on pin side hello slam tilt crew hello hello thanks for the kind remarks towards us houston folks as it will likely be several months before some are able to get back in their homes not to mention all the work that will be done to repair all the damage done by hurricane harvey I was fortunate to be one of the lucky ones. We did not see any high water in the immediate area around our home. Though only a few miles away, there were several places not so lucky. Oof. Ron, I was watching some of the Classics 2 tournament from the Buffalo Pinball Open and noticed your player picture you giving the horns. Hope this complies with Gene's trademark. He dropped that. Gene dropped the trademark request for the horns. He took too much shit for that, so he dropped it. So I didn't have to send him. I wonder how much the check was that you had to send him. No, I didn't have to send him a check. He dropped it. So let's see. I was able to finally pick up a Bally Frontier last week. Nice. A pin that I've been looking for a couple years now.
    36:35
    Looking for for a couple years. It's going to need some love to get it in cosmetically good shape, but it's a solid player right now, kicking my ass all over the place as I continue to hit the start button over and over. As you should. It's not as difficult as Flash Gordon, but I would put it in the same class. I've attached a picture of my current Valley lineup, and I am jealous. We have Flash Gordon, 8-Ball Deluxe, Paragon, and Frontier. I think Frontier's harder. Now, you knowing me, Bruce, out of these four games, there's three I definitely would want to have, and four would be a maybe. Which would be the maybe? 8-Ball Deluxe. No. Really? Really. So Bruce really doesn't know it.
    37:22
    Well, Paragon I know you want. Yep. Frontier I know you want. Yep. You wouldn't want Flash Gordon? I'd want Able Deluxe over Flash Gordon. Okay.
    37:33
    The only problem I have with these games. What's the one problem I have with these games? Do they have LEDs in them? Yes, they do. Are you sure? They just give me bright incandescence. What do I know about incandescents compared to LEDs? Those things are LEDs.
    37:50
    Just say no to plastic games with LEDs. My personal tip. Looking forward to the next episode. Cheers, Jim. Thanks, Jim. And don't listen to Bruce. They look fine. Keep your LEDs in there. They're fine. No.
    38:07
    All right. And we got our last one. This is from Jason. you remember from our earlier podcast he was the one having um fun trying to i believe sell his machine it looks like he's having more fun because the uh subject line is i really hate selling effing machines yeah this is like hello guys and here we go again i am selling my lord of the rings and so far the first two to show up are complaining about the cost of putting leds in the machine Then they both tell me I need to come down on my price to cover that expense. What the serious fuck? I would just say to them, guess what? What did it come with? To all you potential buyers, you can just omit that fucking statement and just take your offer without explaining to the seller that they really need to consider the expense of your goddamn preference of fucking LEDs.
    39:03
    Just make your fucking offer, whatever it is, and go from there. I tell you that is a bad bargaining chip.
    39:10
    My wife and I have sold over 50 pinball machines since 1998. All you're doing is pissing off the seller.
    39:17
    It's better to just say whatever price you're thinking of spending than the need to come down on your price because the machine does not have LEDs. Sorry to rant, but seriously, WTF? Help me, Bruce. Please, freaking help me. Damn the LEDs. my motto would just be then this isn't the machine for you and just okay have a nice day see you later bye and they're like oh what do you mean no no no this isn't the machine for you you could tell bruce has had this conversation before oh i've had this conversation many times with different things like i've had uh i was selling one of my world cup soccers the one you know and i was selling it for, at the time, $1,400.
    40:01
    Guy comes up to me and goes, I'll give you $1,000. This is not a show. I'm like, no. I think he expected me to come back, and I just turned around and walked away.
    40:12
    So a few minutes later, he comes back and goes, how about, would you take $12? Or no, he said $11. I didn't even answer.
    40:20
    And the guy just looked at me and goes, did you hear me? I said, I'm only listening when I actually hear a freaking realistic number. and he walked away. Like a half an hour, 40 minutes later, he came back, and he's like, how about $1,300? I said, now we're talking, because I was ready to tell you, next time you came in with a number, I was going to say, have a nice day, and don't come back. I did that to somebody on a no-fear at York one year.
    40:46
    I had a no-fear I had for like $1,600, and the guy came up and said, I'll give you $1,100 for it. I said, no, this isn't the machine for you, sorry. So he came back later on and he goes, I'll give you $13. I'm like, no, I told you, I'm not selling you this game.
    41:01
    You could offer me $1,600 or $1,700 for it right now. I'm not selling you this game. Really? Like, yeah, really.
    41:11
    Never saw him again, but guess what? Sold the machine, $1,650. You should do a video. Bruce is hard-ass buying and selling techniques. Bartering 101.
    41:22
    Be an asshole. It sometimes makes you money. And if not, there's also another person out there that will buy it. Don't worry. Patience is a virtue. And how much are you selling it, Lord of the Rings, for? I might have a guy in Syracuse that might want to buy it. Right, Eric?
    41:38
    So let's see. Be patient and be an asshole. You're a brother. There you go. So I've got to put that down. I'll put that in the show notes. Be patient and be an asshole. Be a patient asshole. There you go. Patient asshole is your friend. Yep.
    41:52
    Okay, do you have anything? I thought we had some stuff on the site. We do. First, somebody posted pictures of a star score.
    42:01
    A what? Somebody has a picture of a star score last week. What the hell is a star score? Stars score of 448,750. Okay, a stars score.
    42:17
    Okay. Yeah, star score. You said it again. It sounds like you're saying star score. No, stars score. It was a pretty high score, too. It was. What did you do? Did you get the glass off? It was really, really high. What was that score again? I didn't quite hear that. What was it? 448, 750. Man, that's a pretty high score right there. I'm going to take that down. And that is without the 100K. Which was a conversation on Tilt Forms this week. Everyone is in disagreement with me.
    42:50
    I mean, I have it off. So it basically gives specials, so you don't really get any points. They're disagreeing with me also because I feel the same way. And their conversation was whether if you get all five stars, you know, you got the roving stars, should you get 100K, like infinite 100K for each hit or just one?
    43:09
    See, I might be able to go with the just one. I say none. But the infinite 100K would be insane. No, because it makes it unbalanced. The game then is totally unbalanced. The way I have it and you have it is perfect. You have to earn it on play. We're in the minority, it seems. I don't give a shit. When they're coming to my house, they're playing that way.
    43:30
    So, everyone, suck it! When I posted the score, I got a good comment from Levy. Somebody said, like, is that with the glass off? Yeah. And Levy said, Ron's many things, but he's definitely not a glass-off type guy. Why, thank you. I don't know the other things I am, but I'm not a glass-off type guy. That was in a seven-game series against my dad, which went seven games. Wow, you suck. Which I did win.
    43:57
    And that was the only game I had that was over 100K. And that stars. Okay. So I have two more things. Let me get to them right now. One, Steve Daniels sent us a post personally to me, and I'm going to send it to you right now. If it's personal, should we not be reading it? No, it's actually for your Star Trek pop bumper issue. Okay. When he had a Star Trek, it actually fixed his problem for the ball getting stuck on the lower pop bumper. All right. While I'm doing this, I want to say hi to the Head to Head podcast boys, Ryan C. and Martin.
    44:37
    So I just sent Ron the link for the Star Trek pop bumper description, and it's not a YouTube thing. We can actually post it. And he said it worked 100% when you had a Star Trek. So, I found the magical post from the beginning of the podcast. Oh, the Harrison Ford morphing. All right. It was from Joe Cerovino.
    45:00
    He says, the Harrison Ford controversy ends right here. He's created an animated GIF comparing the original post art by Richard Amsell, which is 100% Harrison Ford likeness, and the Mark Watson back glass artwork. The similarities in the shape of the nose, chin, and ears are identical. It is Harrison Ford-likeness on this case closed. Except for the fact that I don't believe Williams had an artist named Mark Watson. They had Doug Watson. Doug Watson, yeah. Steve Bowden then posted saying, the Vinci Code has been revealed. Yep. And Derek said, it's the eyes that give it away. That's not Harrison Ford until Steve Daniels pointed this out, too. I refuse to believe it, too. According to the Pinball Magazine article, Mark Ritchie, the guy who designed the game, said it wasn't him. But I don't believe it. I think he's still trying to cover his ass for getting sued.
    45:52
    But the controversy continues. For some people, Ron and myself both say it's Harrison Ford. Agreed? Agreed. There we go.
    46:04
    We had one more comment. Where is it? It was from Keith Elwin. Oh, he said touchdown is way worse than gridiron.
    46:15
    I think they both stink. You just hate Gottlieb. I do. Poor Gottlieb. What did they ever do to you? They made shit games. Actually, yeah, they did make a lot of shit games. But they made good games, too. Some.
    46:30
    I did forget two podcasts last week that we do follow also. Buffalo Pinball Bro, do you even talk pinball? And also the Canadian Pinball Podcast we both like, too. So we've got a couple of guests coming up there, big-time guests. Oh, you'll have to let me know who they are. You know one. Oh, yeah, I know the one. We're recording that in two weeks. Two weeks.
    46:54
    I sent you an email, and I guess you didn't read my email. We're recording the 16th now. The 16th, all right. Yeah, I did not see that email. When did you send that?
    47:04
    Text, actually. It was three days ago. Three days ago, okay. So it's a six-minute recording instead of the ninth. So that's going to be a good guest. I am very excited about that one. And then we're going to have Mr. Oren Day coming on at the end of the month before Expo, talking about his history and times at Data East, Sega, and at the beginning of Stern. He was a programmer. I got to deal with all these fun games. And in the business, I've known Oren for almost 15 years now. And I'm sure Oren could tell you that you did not text that to me. I think I did. You did not. I'm looking right at my texts. The last one I have about the guest is the original date and time. I have nothing that says it was changed. Okay, well, guess what?
    47:52
    You're letting me know live on the air it's changed. Yes. Okay, I got it. That's 16th. So if you want to put your emails in, put them in before the 16th for that week. And we might have one or two more guests coming on. prepare for some kick-ass guests in the fall and winter. And we're going to bring back some old reliables, aka, we're going to try to get back Steve, we're going to get back Tim Balls, and we're going to get back I hope, our favorite software programmer, Scott.
    48:22
    So, would I buy that? Or would I not buy that? Oh, really? Oh, yes. You know me. Oh, really? Okay. All right, hold on. Let me get old eBay up here. You got it. All right, rock and roll. Rock and roll, hoochie-coo. Ticket number 132318239615.
    48:48
    I was thinking of so many segments we may want to explain what the hell it is. For newer listeners. This is what we go into eBay. I scour eBay for weeks at a time sometimes and find the sometimes good deals, sometimes the crappy deals, or sometimes the most hilarious sales that people are trying to spawn off on our poor consumers. So you can follow along what we're doing when I give the ticket number out off the eBay, which was this one was 132-318-239-615. and you can follow along and see the games that we're actually talking about.
    49:28
    1988 Williams Joker's pinball machine. Needs repair. Powers up but shows two error codes. Several leads on the battery pack have corroded and no longer connect to the circuit board. Several rubber bumpers are loose on the playing field. Two pieces shown in picture were found inside coin door. I don't know if they are missing from this machine. Fairly nice paint and graphics. I don't know how to grade it. I bought this machine about 10 years ago with the intention to restore one day but never got to it. It has been stored in a dry climate-controlled basement, local pickup only near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
    50:01
    Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Jokers! Now the price? $500. So even though I hate this game, for $500... I don't hate it that bad. The PIA is worrying me a little bit. The acid damage is pretty bad.
    50:18
    But it doesn't look... The weird thing is, it doesn't look like it went, like, you know, it's saying it's bad U41 and U42 in the two pictures. And that's right below the battery. But I don't see any acid damage there. It's probably there, though. But, you know, would you buy that for $500?
    50:38
    Sure. I would, too, actually. This is a good machine to get a good start on. It's got some chipping on the front cab. The playfield looks pretty good. I was actually impressed with the play field. The play field usually gets smoked in the middle.
    50:53
    This one's not. The table usually gets all wiped out and you actually see wood. And plus, who could not love the queen in that picture? I would buy that for $500, definitely. And you would too I buy that Good good good We in agreement Ticket number This is another one 172
    51:20
    Williams Sorcerer Project. Games sometimes keep scoring. That's why it's a project. Has some LEDs installed. Playfield still has factory Mylar.
    51:31
    It is $1,300. The playfield is immaculate. I have never seen a Sorcerer this nice in a long time for playfield wear. Usually they get smoked around the multiplier numbers.
    51:46
    This one is really sharp, really crisp. For the little issues, it's a good game. I love Sorcerer. Yeah, you do. You really like Sorcerer. I do. I don't know if I'd pay $1,300. I'd see what you can do. Maybe you can try to PM them privately. even though that's not allowed on but uh it's in illinois rock island now this seller has a lot of games up on ebay we're gonna go to another one right now that he has up another one he has is one two two well would we buy that or would we not buy that you would buy that i i'd buy that for one reason the playfield is immaculate you think about it when was the last time you saw a Sorcerer Playfield that nice. For me, it wouldn't be worth $1,300. But that's just for me. Yeah.
    52:34
    So the other two he has on here is 122 685 523 905. This one's for you. Actually, maybe it's not the same guy.
    52:49
    No, it's a different guy. Ooh, Road Kings! Now you're talking, finally. But it's in the same town, Wooddale, Illinois. This game had a fuse that was out related to the high voltage, which supplies power to the displays. The fuse was replaced and blew again. The game will require some board work as there's some damage on the board noted. The game is complete and in good overall shape, but since the fuse kept blowing, we did not test the game further. Play feels pretty nice. It's very nice. And it does boot to a zero. So in William's terms, that's a good thing. Kevin's not bad either. Yeah.
    53:27
    I'd buy that. For $420? $420. $420, folks. Ron, you fly out halfway, you rent the truck, and you drive it back from Illinois. From when you go to Dexpo. There you go. 13 bids. Yeah. A bunch of them from the same person. Yeah. Trying to get it up there. Yeah. But he's not the current high bidder. No. So we'll have to see where that sells at. I'd be curious. Nine more days.
    53:57
    It's a good deal. Next one this guy is selling is ticket number 122685. 568-263. Starship Troopers. I have a soft spot for this machine. Yeah, this is another one of those games you like. Let's see. The game works, but it has a weak display. Everything seemed to be working for the most part. Needs to be cleaned. Rubber replaced and switches likely need to be adjusted. So is the project game. Blah, blah, blah. Let's look at the pictures.
    54:34
    Probably should say what the price is. It's $818. That's pretty cheap. Yep. Sega. He's also got one of those Monday Night Football's for $585. The same guy. Wait a minute. He actually took pictures of underneath the play field. Yes. And the back box. Oh, my God. Yes, he's. And the glass is off and everything. What's he doing? He's trying to sell a game according to your standards, sir. Wow. Kudos to you, sir. This has 11 bids on it, too, nine days away. So it's probably going to sell for a lot more than that. But there you go. Of course, we're helping these guys out, too. I know. We should get a percentage. We should get a percentage because the bids are going to be higher. Yep. Either that or we have a listener who's like, oh, please don't mention that. Please don't mention. Oh, shit. But your laser cue is still up there for $1,100 by now.
    55:25
    And I think that is all I do have. Well, there's the on. Excuse me. No, I think that's it. I'm just going through my list.
    55:35
    The Chuck E. Cheese outfit is still on there for $10,000. Oh, God. That was from like a month ago. I know. It's still on there. Jesus. So is that Black Sheep Squadron for $12.99? Black Sheep Squadron. My desoldering gun and soldering station bundle is still on there I'm looking at. I do need a new soldering iron.
    55:58
    Maybe if people want to donate something nice to me. Oh, there's the other one. I was looking for the other one. Here we go. This is an oddball. Ticket number 401-396-513-874. This is a favorite of IFPA player number one himself. I'm also a fan see played this at a show once this and the other one that you hate the silent service well no no that silence no the submarine one well first we're looking at secret service yes very early data east game torpedo alley is the other one I was talking about yes torpedo alley that's it which I like it Bruce hates it yes data east secret service pinball and oh my it's been LED and they did the whole different colors deal that we all love. We love that. Let's see. It's a pinball secret service pinball machine. Great working order.
    57:03
    Creative spin-off of the high speed layout featuring time drop targets, two or three multi-ball modes, carry over jackpot, spinners, kickback, up post and one of a kind ball eater. Let's see. LEDs throughout. Yeah, we can see that. Yeah. If you're interested, don't wait. Contact me now.
    57:23
    $1,400. Buy it now. Now look at that play field. That play field is over almost 30 years old because Stern is almost 30 years.
    57:35
    It looks good. It looks great. I actually don't mind this one because I like the music you can change also. The apron looks nice. nice metal apron. Oh, it's got guns and stuff on the front. Look at that. Yep, and the music's really cool because you can do Secret Agent Man, Mission Impossible, or Get Smart. Wow. I didn't realize the side art, the guy looks a lot like Roger Moore. He looks a lot like Roger Moore. Like, a lot like Roger Moore. I know.
    58:03
    Which, yeah, that would have made sense because he would have still been Bond when this came out. Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it has the topper. Yep. The lights there. Oh, and he's going out of his way to show the boards that the fact that the battery's been replaced. Yep. Would you buy this for $1,400?
    58:23
    I might buy it. This one I might buy for $1,400. It's actually a nice shape. I mean, I'd pull out all the LEDs immediately, but, yeah. Oh, of course, Jess. Good boy. I actually like it. It's not bad. This one's better than whatever the other turd is. I just keep on blocking out of my mind.
    58:39
    So there you go. That's the, would we buy that? Nobody bought the three Kiss machines from last week. No.
    58:48
    Can't blame them there. No, I can't either. Now, if it was four Kiss machines, you know. Then maybe. See, that's what they should have... They could have done that. Stern could have had, like, the four Kiss machines, one for each member.
    59:01
    You said member. You think everyone would buy the Gene Simmons one? I don't know. That's a good question. So, say they had four different ones. the demon, the star child, the cat, and the spaceman, which one would be the most popular?
    59:22
    Who figured the demon would be the most popular? Demon and spaceman. Yeah. Then star child, and then, of course, the cat's always last.
    59:31
    The cat's always last. Yeah. Shout it, shout it, shout it out loud. Time to pay some bills. You got to pay the bills now. Yeah. Okay, Gene.
    59:48
    That's what he would say to you, right? See, the problem when you play Kiss Pinball, you say you hate Kiss, but then you keep – the songs just keep, like, sticking in your head. Like, why am I singing Kiss songs? Time's up. You don't have to be afraid. Get down. Love is like a hurricane. Seen somewhere Gene is just smiling, collecting his money. Yes, he is.
    60:12
    That he is. I'm a believer. Something in the light between the eyes. Like a sucker. I love you.
    60:26
    www.pinballlifter.com. Check out my site. Buy some lifters, tilters, helpers. I even have people now emailing me from Australia. luckily with our affiliation with Australia, they want me to ship stuff down there. So Paul Hogan called you and wanted some of your stuff? Crikey.
    60:45
    And everyone was making fun of me on the head-to-head podcast that I kept on saying, Chunder, which, like, we don't say that anymore. But Martin got so drunk on his Twitch feed, after he did his Twitch feed, what did he do? He chundered. He threw a right after it, which is classic. I loved it. Hi, boys. How do you know that wasn't on the stream? No, he said afterwards. He goes, five minutes after I got off the stream, he ran for the bathroom and chundered.
    61:16
    Chunder. We're a-pute in the middle of a toilet bowl. Chunder. There you go. Chunder.
    61:35
    I was shaking at the knees. Yeah. Then I said, I was shaking at the knees. I said, come out of me, please. Ow!
    61:46
    Okay. On that note. Pinball Star, the one that just sold and delivered successful, dialed in to my co-host, which is really the host. He likes to plug into me, of the Slamtail Podcast.
    62:03
    But he did a great job. Go check that out. I'm waiting for mine. I'm thinking probably mine will be in November, December. Crossing fingers. If not, later. Not a big deal. I'll get the good one. Ron gets the first one. Oh, I got the good one.
    62:17
    And don't forget Mike Pupo. Flipper Fidelity. Yes, he sells the best damn flipper kits, flipper sound kits you will buy out there. Please go check him out. He also sells new Stern pinball machines and new Stern authorized mods. Be sure to listen to all our buddies out in the podcast world. Let's see if we can name them all this time. There's Coast to Coast Pinball.
    62:42
    There's this flipping podcast, Bro, Do You Even Pinball? Head to Head, the Head to Head Pinball Podcast. The Canadian Pinball Podcast, yes. The Pinball Players Podcast. The Pinball Profile. Hi, Jeff. Man, there's a lot of podcasts out there. when will people even have time to listen to us since we're weekly i'm traveling tomorrow so i'm gonna listen to a lot tomorrow i wait usually like a week because i don't want to steal like their ideas or anything not like some podcasts we know hi australians hey they assured us that they would not be stealing us anymore yeah a bit of news well no it's a piece of news that's our thing don't say a bit of news because then you're ripping them off i know well i'm gonna rip them off since they ripped us off. No, though, then we'll get a cease and desist letter from, like, I don't know, Paul Hogan. I keep saying Paul Hogan. It's like the only guy Crocodile Dundee for those who don't know who the hell that is. Well, no, the whole band ain't gonna send us one. Who is the guy I met at work?
    63:46
    Damn it, I'm trying to think of the guy's name. Colin Hay. Is Colin Hay gonna serve us with something?
    63:53
    Who can it be now? Did you ever eat your Vegemite? I will eventually it's sitting on the kitchen table so I'm sorry what the hell well I know Jeff Teal has just picked up another pinball machine today Bobby Orr's power play? no he went for the monster fish oh fish tails wise choice very good choice so this has been the Slamtail Podcast has it? it has we're on YouTube just search for Slam Tilt Podcast again just let me know listeners please let me know if you'd like to see the podcast posted out there too because I can do that and we're still looking for bids oh yes not one fucking wussy in our person come on it's for the kids just got to bid $51 and you get a chance to play New England people and kick their ass you can play Bowen you can play Eric Stone On good games. I will give Chuck that. He has good games. You could play Eric Stone, who didn't win anything at Pinnberg. You can play Bowen, who lost to an 8-year-old at Papa. 12 years old. Or 13. No, he was 8. That's what I'm going to say. Oh, wow. Yeah. The more trash talking, he'll get younger and younger. It'll eventually be like a 3-year-old beat him or something. He just popped out of the uterus. He just started flipping and kicked his ass.
    65:21
    Pretty much. How's that skateball going? Ooh. Again, it's all in good fun. Help a good cause. Yes, please. So $51. If you bid, if you even bid $50, I'm going for dollar increments. So $51 will get you a chance to play some middle-of-the-road players. What do you think? I'd say that. Well, not a chance. They will be playing middle-of-the-road New England players. Yes. But you get the chance to because if somebody outbids you, then, you know.
    65:56
    So this has been episode 59, A Shot in the Dark. Shot in the dark. One step away from you. You know who that is? No. Ozzy. Oh, okay.
    66:14
    Motherfucker, what are you doing? Yes, we'll get Ozzy on to do. Ozzy is our guest. Yes. What the fuck?
    66:24
    Here's a business. When I was on the tour bus, this place of fucking pinball, I don't remember what it was. It was fucking awesome, you know. And I snorted some cocaine on it. It was great. Oh, yeah. Shit, where the fuck are you?
    66:42
    So, again, episode 59, Shot in the Dark. We can be reached at slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. Look for us on Facebook and YouTube and hopefully someday Twitch. Don't forget, like us on Facebook and like us on iTunes.
    67:00
    And we can use your emails. You notice we talk about everyone's emails. Come on. Bring them in emails. We had four. That was good. That was really good. Plus a lot of messages on Facebook. So we're liking it. All right. Goodbye, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Brad Morgan.
    67:19
    Hold my mind, can you boogie, can you slide? Hold my mind, hold my mind, you can boogie if you try. Hold my mind, hold my mind, it's guaranteed to keep you alive. Oh my
    68:10
    Thank you.