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Fresh Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 9m·analyzed·Jul 30, 2024
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TL;DR

Don Garrison reveals his pinball journey and homebrew project on Fresh Pinball Podcast mystery guest episode.

Summary

Fresh Pinball Podcast hosts a mystery guest episode featuring Don Garrison (Don's Pinball Podcast). The show includes guessing games about the guest, Don's pinball journey from casual player to prominent community figure, his podcast growth to 100+ Patreon members, and discussion of his homebrew Legend of Zelda pinball build using Fast Pinball boards. Secondary content covers game placement performance data from a tattoo convention and upcoming releases.

Key Claims

  • Don Garrison owns 16 pinball machines as of the podcast recording

    high confidence · Don states 'And then one has turned into 16 somehow' when discussing his addiction to collecting.

  • Don's Pinball Podcast has 100+ Patreon members generating approximately $550-600/month

    high confidence · Don says 'I've got 100 people on it now' and references the original intent as 'Five bucks if you just want to throw me a tip.'

  • Don purchased a Godzilla Premium from Mad Pinball before a price increase and later sold it, coinciding with black and white release

    high confidence · Mystery caller question: 'That was a Godzilla Premium new in box just before the price increase' and 'I sold. It was a literally perfect timing. So that did boost my credibility.'

  • Don is building a Legend of Zelda (original 8-bit) homebrew pinball machine using Fast Pinball boards and Spike 2 cabinet

    high confidence · Don states: 'I looked at a theme that I don't think any company would reasonably be able to get, something that I love, which would be the original 8-bit Legend of Zelda, and I built myself a Spike 2 cabinet.'

  • Don co-hosts 'We Are Pinball' (WAP) podcast with Retro Jango

    high confidence · Don mentions: 'I started an international podcast with Retro Jango called We Are Pinball, just so we could use the WAP acronym.'

  • Godfather LE with topper received 415 plays at a tattoo convention over a weekend, outperforming John Wick (400 plays) and Barry O's Barbecue Challenge (205 plays)

    high confidence · Kyle presents results: 'Godfather was the winner... 415 plays for the weekend. Wick was second at 400, so, I mean, they were close... and then Barry O's was at 205.'

  • Don's custom WWE WrestleMania Limited Edition pinball is signed by Hulk Hogan and is one of 400 units made

    high confidence · Mystery caller describes purchase: 'WWE WrestleMania Limited Edition signed by Hulk Hogan. That's all 400 were.'

  • Don's first pinball purchase was a Stern Dark Knight

Notable Quotes

  • “I love the petty arguments because they are unending right... there's a game for everybody... we can still argue infinitely about it because it's so subjective”

    Don Garrison @ ~mid-episode — Captures Don's philosophy on community engagement and why he's gravitated to the pinball hobby despite multiple other interests.

  • “I legitimately having fun, so yeah, how can I be like a bag of sour grapes?”

    Don Garrison @ ~mid-episode — Explains Don's consistently positive podcast approach; contrasts with negative voices in pinball media.

  • “I looked at a theme that I don't think any company would reasonably be able to get, something that I love, which would be the original 8-bit Legend of Zelda, and I built myself a Spike 2 cabinet.”

    Don Garrison @ ~35 min mark — Reveals Don's homebrew pinball project; demonstrates the appeal of niche IP for hobbyist builders.

  • “once you find somebody that's legit and you can trust, then you can do future deals with these folks because we trade games back and forth. These things are expensive.”

    Don Garrison @ ~15 min mark — Explains Don's approach to building trusted dealer relationships, a foundational element of his podcast identity.

  • “I went to play Thunderbirds... I'm not rushing out to buy one but I had fun playing it... there's nothing wrong with that”

    Host/Kyle @ ~25 min mark — Reflects the podcast's philosophy that not every game release requires a purchase; endorses location play as valid engagement.

  • “I saw the amazing things that the homebrew people are making... professional games are coming out from the homebrew people... Motorhead... Saw... Friday the 13th... Pokemon”

    Don Garrison @ ~33 min mark — Acknowledges quality of homebrew scene and its influence on his decision to build his own machine.

  • “With my low expectations and measure of success, it's already exceeded what I thought I would do.”

    Don Garrison @ ~36 min mark — Indicates Don's homebrew build is progressing well and ahead of original timeline.

Entities

Don GarrisonpersonDon's Pinball PodcastmediaKylepersonCorbinpersonZachpersonFresh Pinball PodcastmediaMad Pinballcompany

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Don Garrison's Patreon model started at $5/month with low expectations but has scaled to 100+ members requiring expanded exclusive content strategy beyond original scope

    high · Five bucks if you just want to throw me a tip... I've got 100 people on it now. It's like, shoot, I've got to do something for these people.

  • ?

    community_signal: Don Garrison has cultivated strong manufacturer relationships with multiple companies welcoming him to demo new releases and providing advance media access

    high · I made it known to the manufacturers, like, if you've got a new game and it's coming out, I'm local to Chicago. If you want me to, you know, come play it... And they were super receptive to that.

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Host segment criticizes negative responses to new game releases, advocating for appreciation of development effort and location play as valid engagement without requiring purchase

    medium · I know in my heart of hearts... that dozens if not hundreds of people have put a ton of time, effort... and the first response from someone is oh, well Zach's wallet is safe

  • $

    market_signal: Location play performance data shows Godfather LE with aftermarket topper significantly outperformed expectation, suggesting accessory kits materially impact player attraction and engagement

    high · Godfather was the winner... 415 plays for the weekend. Wick was second at 400... That topper draws people in. It does that. It's loud as shit.

  • ?

    community_signal: Don Garrison's approach to content creation and community building emphasizes authenticity, positive engagement, and transparent relationship-building with dealers and manufacturers

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome everyone to season 3 episode 5? Oh sure I feel confident with five. Let's go with five. Five sounds right. We're back again, recording tonight, and we have a mystery caller, a mystery guest. But before we get to the mystery caller here, I'm going to introduce everyone around the table tonight. To my right, I have DJ Kyle. DJ Kyle, how we feeling, buddy? I'm a boomerang kind of plays on the left flipper type thing. Yeah, I got some time on that one. It's an interesting game I'll leave it at that Honestly, I don't hate it Yeah, I feel like I've played a lot less exciting games before For sure It's decently clean It lights up nice It looks great Kyle's got it cleaned up It's glowing real nice in here Yeah I feel like I could have competed with whoever they commissioned to do the cabinet art I feel like I could have knocked that out of the park Stick figures, for sure Sitting across from me on microphone number three We have Corbin. Corbin, how we feeling, buddy? Doing great. And to my left, the most flipping fantastic of them all, Zach. Zach, how we doing, buddy? Just flipping fantastic over here. I love it. Mystery caller, how are we doing tonight? Yes.
1:41
Hey, guys. Wow, fresh pinball. I can't believe I've made it. This is awesome. I'm very happy to be one of your mystery guests here, but did you need to send the windowless panel van? I mean, it's really hot in here. And with the duct tape, I can barely hold the phone. If you're really good, we will get you an ice cream sandwich at the end of this, but only if you behave. And let them play Pony Factory.
2:01
One ice cream sandwich. And the nachos ran out about 45 minutes ago. No way. Four credits of Pony Factory. All right, so we're going to kick this off with each of us is going to get two questions to try to reveal to the audience who the mystery guest is. So I'll start, mystery guest.
2:21

high confidence · Don states: 'Started with the arcade one-ups like most people do, and then was like, hey, I found a pinball dealer. Let me just go down and look. And then I came home with a Stern Dark Knight as my first game.'

Fast Pinball
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We Are Pinball (WAP)media
Legend of Zelda (8-bit)game
WWE WrestleMania Limited Editiongame
Godfather LEgame
Barry O's Barbecue Challengegame
John Wick Premiumgame
Godzilla Premiumgame
Stern Dark Knightgame
Retro Jangoperson
Aaron Davisperson
Texas Pinball Festivalevent
Boomeranggame

high · legitimately having fun, so yeah, how can I be like a bag of sour grapes?... perspective... just starting to get into this and don't know where to start

  • ?

    community_signal: Don Garrison's podcast platform has grown to 100+ Patreon members within approximately 3 years, establishing him as a legitimate media personality despite being relatively new to the hobby

    high · I've got 100 people on it now and discussions of being receptive to manufacturer partnerships despite initial industry presence

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Multiple unconfirmed game releases discussed including Harry Potter, Pokemon, brand new Metallica, and black and white Barry O's Barbecue Challenge variant

    medium · What release are you looking forward to?... I want to see what this Harry Potter has to it. I want to see if Pokemon is a real thing. I want to see if there's going to be a brand new Metallica. I want to see if there's going to be a black and white Berrios.

  • ?

    technology_signal: Fast Pinball Spike 2 boards are accessible to homebrewers building custom machines, enabling IP-unique builds (e.g., Legend of Zelda) unavailable from commercial manufacturers

    high · I looked at a theme that I don't think any company would reasonably be able to get... and I built myself a Spike 2 cabinet... from Fast Pinball

    • Sure. Which state in our United States do you call home? Well, that's kind of a loaded question because I move around a lot. Currently, I post in Wisconsin. Wisconsin, okay.
    2:35
    But I pronounce it with a California accent. Wisconsin. Do you get a little bit of a lot of folks up there that have the Minnesota drawl? Minnesota. I mean, only when they bring some hot dish in a bag.
    2:51
    What do you got, Kyle? I'm wondering what our mystery's guest's go-to pizza is. Ooh, okay. Yeah, I very much fall on the New York style on the spectrum, right? But anything with cornmeal on the crust and baked in a hot oven, I'm going to like. All right. I'm not sure that's going to help the audience identify what mystery caller's pizza was. It's a reasonable question. What do you got for him, Corbin? I'm just curious. I think this might reveal something. If you had one ball left to play in your life on a game, what game would that be? Ooh, that's a deep one.
    3:34
    Ooh, man. Not even a whole game, just one ball. And then that's it. Let's go with Diner just because I want to get that game. Okay, okay. Interesting.
    3:46
    Not bad about that. All right, Zach, what do you got? What do you got? What do you got, Zach? for the mid-time.
    3:54
    What is the latest pinball you just purchased? Okay, reasonable. Oh, yeah, yeah. That would be a Stern title. It's a Spike-1 system. It's a WWE WrestleMania Limited Edition signed by Hulk Hogan. That's all 400 were. And I'm damn happy with it. We have some fans of that game at this table, so you're not alone. You're not going to get a lot of hate from us. No, no, that is a cool Max Hunter for sure. All right, so for my second question, I'm going to go with, what was the first game that you ever bought from Mad Pinball?
    4:31
    Oh, gosh, that was a Godzilla Premium new in box just before the price increase. Right when everybody else had one year-long waiting list and you showed up in chat, you're like, hey, I'm a company you haven't heard of, but I've got them available. And this was awesome.
    4:49
    I remember you running me through the ringer, making me identify myself, show that I'm legit. I had to send him a DNA sample. It was a whole thing. I'm sure you had some alias or something you were running on. At least you didn't ask for a DNA sample. I still have some of that skin sample you sent. I wasn't running on an alias at that time. The mystery caller was running on an alias, but that'll be for a different conversation. All right, Kyle, question number two.
    5:14
    Why did you sell your Godzilla? Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah, so, all right. I mean, it's like the greatest game of the modern era, right?
    5:25
    But, yeah, I had to make room. There was more games coming in, and I found myself just not playing it as much as everything else that I had. I looked at the market. I saw what it would cost to replace it down the road. It was favorable. So it actually made sense for me at the time to go ahead and release it into the wild. Did you have some insider information, knowing that the black and white was just around the corner, Jeff, we all know you spoke that into existence. Now's the time to cut on this game.
    5:54
    Completely coincidental. I mean, I had heard the rumors, but I didn't know it was coming out like the next week after I sold. It was a literally perfect timing. So that did boost my credibility. It boosted my credibility in the space, though, so I'm going to milk that. No doubt. Hell yeah, might as well. All right, Corbin, question number two, buddy. All right, I'm going to go with the top spooky game for you. Ooh. Of all their... Even their contract titles, anything spooky... And to piggyback on that, you've played all of their games now, correct? I have played every one of their games, including Domino's Pizza Challenge, which is way better than it has any right to be. So what is the best spooky title and why is it Rick and Morty?
    6:37
    I think we still have your Rick and Morty around, actually. We do. That's part of our spooky museum collection. When we took it out to Pinbrew, everybody was ogling it, going, is that the actual Bugs high scores on here? And I said, well, yeah, as a matter of fact, they are.
    6:52
    Yes, sir. Yeah, that game is a gem. I think just for fun, for pinball and what it is. Although Looney Tunes is giving it a run for its money. Yeah, Looney Tunes is really developing into something special.
    7:05
    Yeah. All right, Zach. They're still available. Get one while you can. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Get in before the lock, as they say. do you have any pins you'd say that are bolted to the floor probably Star Wars Premium partially for just the hate that I get partially because I just love the damn game but I'm getting some bolts for this Wrestlemania that I got it's low plays, it's awesome and I've got some great plans for it how many do they make of that? was that like 300 or 500? 400 I knew it was right in that early The distributors were trying to give them away I'm sure They're like forgery I think it's still a game that you can get on a deal I think that for as fun of a game And the interesting mechs it has I'm surprised the value is a little bit less That upper ring is amazing to me Just the ball paths The layout of it overall It's just a super super unique game Alright Mystery Caller The longer wire forms, the extra characters I could talk about Wrestlemania for a while Question number three Mystery Caller Yes.
    8:11
    Bonus question. Did you get the lady plastics? Yes, absolutely. They are already in there, and the game is substantially better now. There was a cool promo that we ended up with, too, that had a little boxing ring that has little plastic cutouts, too, that were interesting. Yeah, it was like a little mini wrestling ring, and then you could have John Cena and The Rock and all of these different characters battle it out cardboard style in two dimensions. Flat plastic. Well, that's fine. All right. I think we're ready for the mystery caller to reveal themselves. Mystery caller, who are you? Yes. Hi, my name is Don. I run Don's Pinball Podcast and Don's Swag Barn in Pinside. And on Saturday nights, you can find me down at the local butchery meat market, slinging pig intestines cheap. So if you need some chitlin, I don't have the best, but I got the best prices.
    9:02
    And that's what you need to compete. All right, Don, tell us a little bit about your pinball journey. I know you've talked about it on your podcast before, and I find it super fascinating. And, you know, obviously when you answered one of the questions with Diner, that connected me back to, you know, when you've told some of these stories before. But for our audience, if people are listening to us, they probably listen to Don, too. But there's definitely a chance. But it's always fascinating to me to hear about people's pinball journeys, what got them connected to it, what brought them back into it and all of that. So take us down memory lane, if you will. Sure. so people see me new on the scene and they're like, well Don, you're new to pinball and it's like, well no, I've been playing pinball since I was six years old, you know it was just in laundromats and things, waiting for clothes to dry, I remember the laundromat in my town had a diner, and so I must have tried to get that damn Frankfurter root beer like a hundred times between that and Michael Jackson's Moonwalker because that's all that was there you know, but even in the heyday of like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter 2 at the Family Fun Center Like I would spend half my tokens on those, but I would save some for like the wall of pinball machines, you know, just like I'd walk up and down the line. And it's like, where are we going to spend these tokens? There's Fishtails, there's Terminator, you know, here's Adam's family. What can I play that I can try to get a free game so I can make these tokens last? So I've always been into it. My dad and I would always talk about wouldn't it be cool if we could find a way to rent a game and have it in our house for a month or something? And then, you know, come to find out that this is a hobby during COVID. People are doing this thing. there's more games and some of the best games that have ever been released now. And so what a great time to just jump all right into this hobby. Started with the arcade one-ups like most people do, and then was like, hey, I found a pinball dealer. Let me just go down and look. And then I came home with a Stern Dark Knight as my first game. And then one has turned into 16 somehow.
    10:56
    That's how the addiction is going. If you get them wet after midnight or what, you feed them after midnight? whatever the saying is with that sort of thing.
    11:07
    I definitely do most of my eating after midnight. So as a man of many interests and you've been through many hobbies, whether it's disc golf or skateboarding or chasing the newest coaster or whatever, you've been into pinball for a few years now. What about it or what about the community has resonated with you that's made you stick with it? oh I love the petty arguments because they are unending right you know I mean the great thing about it is there's a game for everybody you know um you know I have friends that love Bond and I just don't get it and like that's okay but we can still argue infinitely about it because it's so subjective um I have the same arguments in the roller coaster hobby the same personalities so funny um so it was just kind of like you know you're just walking along one day and then you open the door into a pinball convention you step into this whole world you didn't know was going on it's like you know walking into office factory right yeah a river of chocolate under glass full of augustus's yeah so i mean obviously yeah and that's the wild thing is in you know you and i connected pretty early on you know on the distributor side and then just kind of you know chatted here and there about the hobby and whatnot you know what about what you do with your podcast and with your interaction do you think has been different than maybe what other folks were doing that's made you you know this relevant this fast so i think it's the perspective right um you know a lot of people that have been doing podcasts when i started had been doing it for a long time you know back at the tournament days back when like you know there weren't all these you know hugely attended conferences like we have now and expos and things as many companies as we have as many games and as many different competition for our entertainment money, right? So I got to come in with my perspective, which I think was different from everybody else that was out there. At the same time, there's people just like me that are just starting to get into this and don't know where to start or who to trust or how to avoid a scam. So when I started doing my podcast, just talking out into whoever would listen, one of the things I did was I looked at people that were legitimate that I bought things from, either mods or games, and I did a little trusted pinball dealer corner where I would just mention, hey, this is somebody that's legitimate that I bought games from. Yeah.
    13:34
    And then that's the hugest thing. Once you find somebody that's legit and you can trust, then you can do future deals with these folks because we trade games back and forth. These things are expensive. They're the size of a refrigerator. They're freight shipped. It's a lot of risk to send something out and hope you're going to actually get your PayPal cleared. Would you ever have imagined whenever you bought your Dark Knight that you'd be traveling? You travel a lot for work, obviously, but you've done a ton of extensive traveling that feels like even more recently that's been exclusively for pinball. You were out in the Pacific Northwest and on tour and just all of the wild places, IHAPA and things that this has taken you so far. Living that pinball personality life.
    14:16
    Right? Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, fake it till you make it, so I'm still faking it. And I'm having so much fun. Like, you know, to enjoy my hobby at this level is just even more fun for me, you know.
    14:30
    You know, I made it known to the manufacturers, like, if you've got a new game and it's coming out, I'm local to Chicago. If you want me to, you know, come play it, and then when you're ready to release, I'll go, you know, blast it and get my impressions. You know, I'm happy to do that. And they were super receptive to that. So how cool is that? That's like getting invited to a media day for a new ride at the theme park, you know. Like, come write it. Tell people what you think. You know, it's awesome. Well, I know you've definitely made inroads with American pinball. You were at the Stern, you know, media basically blitz. Yeah, that was crazy. Delivered your game to you or whatever. I mean, your custom Don's Pinball podcast, Blackard Games. So, I mean, those three I know come to mind for me right away of where they've embraced you as much as you've embraced them, which is it just has to be amazing.
    15:18
    Yeah. Hashtag blessed. And, yeah, there's one more Chicago manufacturer that's coming on board here soon for the next release. So super excited about that. Yeah, definitely. I mean, they are one of those amazing partners that everyone just wants to, you know, be in alignment with.
    15:36
    All right, we've introduced Don. We've talked about his pinball journey. You want to plug your podcast and all of the platforms that you're on. That way, if the people need to find you, they know where to do it. Sure, and it's got a very exotic name, Don Spinball Podcast. The email address is donspinballpodcast at gmail.com. Luckily, nobody had had that already. It's on Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple, everywhere.
    16:01
    It's for G-Lay, yeah. Well, my eagle is. Don't bruise me too hard. But, yeah, I've got a Facebook page, a Facebook group, the Discord, the Patreon, where we do giveaways every month. Talk about the Patreon a little bit because I love what you do with the Patreon. on?
    16:17
    Right. I just want everybody else had one. I'm like, let me just throw my hat down like I'm busking on the sidewalk. Five bucks if you just want to throw me a tip or something if you like what I do so I can go and play Godfather when I go on location. That was the whole point of it. Then I've got 100 people on it now. It's like, shoot, I've got to do something for these people. I'm doing more exclusive content for them where I go a little bit more personal and detailed than I would on the normal, you know, for the public podcast. You know, a little bit more just like, you know, what am I doing? How I go about doing it? Don, you travel all the time. Don't you work? It's like, well, yeah, but I have like tips and strategies I've curated over my years of, you know, coasterdom. And I'm happy to share those tips and things with people. And so now the Discord is kind of almost running on its own. There's whole conversations happening on there when I'm away from it. So like that community starting, you know, I started an international podcast with Retro Jango called We Are Pinball, just so we could use the WAP acronym. and we making t and it it it stupid and fun and hilarious Like it awesome And it all positive That what I always dig about all your stuff I listen to Don Pinball Podcast and everything Some of the negativity from some of the other – it's nice to just have a positive, upbeat, something to listen to and consistent. You're always putting something out. I always dig that for sure. I will say Don's definitely positive, but he's also real. Yeah, real, but he's not – it comes off and still – It's authentic. It's just honest, but it doesn't come off as being negative or whatever. I don't know. I enjoy that about it. Definitely.
    17:51
    Sorry. If part of it is like I'm legitimately having fun, so yeah, how can I be like a bag of sour grapes? If your hobby gets to that point that you're just not having fun anymore, go find something. There's so much stuff to do. Maybe you need a new hobby, yeah. Do something else. Yeah, yeah.
    18:08
    It's like, oh, not this release again, or man, this company is so stupid. It's like, well, what are you even doing? come on, there's other stuff out there. That's always my most hated response is whenever a new game gets released and I know in my heart of hearts in the back of my mind that dozens if not hundreds of people have put a ton of time, effort and everything else into getting that game out and the first response from someone is oh, well Zach's wallet is safe from whatever game it is and it's like really? Come on, that's your first response? It's just like, I'd like to see you make one. Exactly! I just went to next level I was so excited I got to play Thunderbirds consistently rated the worst game ever how was it?
    18:52
    I'm not rushing out to buy one but I had fun playing it I went back and played it a couple of times and I didn't expect to do that based on everything that I had heard I didn't shoot the international rescue ramp a thousand times to try to light all the letters it's 27, come on it had some cool little mechanisms in it that the shaking palm trees cracked me up every time it happened you know so yeah you know not a great game i'm not gonna buy one but i'll go play it on location again i don't think there's any problem with that you know if a game comes out it's like not you know screaming your name to go buy you can still go throw a dollar in it on location what's wrong with that you don't have to buy every single game i feel like some people feel like it's like everything that comes out they have to buy but it's like you don't necessarily have to. You can just enjoy it on occasion at your friend's house or on location and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with throwing a buck in a game. No, I support that for sure. No, Kyle, you can throw in Toy Story 4 every once in a while. Give Toy Story 4 some love, Kyle. No, no, no. I'll throw it off a roof. I got it on my list at some point. I kind of want one, yeah. I would love a CE to get traded in at a nice value because it would definitely go well in a sort of a family game room. So it's one that's on my list for certain don do you have a diner just out of curiosity i don't you always love on diner i'm just curious do you have one i don't i don't you know i've kept my eye out i've i've seen some pop up in like really good condition but the timing wasn't right for me okay um you know so how many exactly how many system 11s do you own right now um uh let's see is uh is tails a system 11 No. It is ripped off System 11. The operating system is exactly the same. So the answer is zero. Okay. Do you still have White House?
    20:45
    I do, yeah, for probably another month or so. Nice. Okay, just curious about the System 11 diner thing. You need a diner, I feel like. I always hear you loving on diners. I'm going to make it my mission. We can borrow a diner. I know, you did just get a... Just came back in. Maybe you can borrow it, temporary trade or something. figure something out. I think that's the ultimate dream for the relationship for Mad Pinball and Don is that he doesn't have to buy every game. Eventually some games can get to him on, hey, try this, demo it. If you have a relationship with a local arcade up there, take it over there, do this, do that and whatever else. I don't know if anyone is excited about it as a new release. Maybe they'll redo that next.
    21:30
    It's a cool game. for sure. You know, it's always good to have that game that you're searching for, too. You know, you don't want to have everything because there's nothing to pine for, nothing to scour the forums and marketplace for. The hunt is fun, too.
    21:44
    Very true. So I've got at least one last one more question for you. I can't speak for the other gentleman, but I know that you have been working on a little pinball project. Are you ready to talk about that out here in the public? Like it's a mini pinball? I don't know. Don, are you ready to reveal? Have you not heard of this? I'm very aware, but I'm not sure everyone else around the table.
    22:08
    I'm getting outed by Aaron Davis from Fast Pinball since I bought his boards. But I came back from TPF and I saw the amazing things that the homebrew people are making. And I thought, you know, dang it, let me see what I can do, right? Was Motorhead the game? Because that game blew me away. Oh my God, it's so great, right? Like, professional games are coming out from the homebrew people. Saw is amazing, Friday the 13th, a new Pokemon just coming out. So I looked at a theme that I don't think any company would reasonably be able to get, something that I love, which would be the original 8-bit Legend of Zelda, and I built myself a Spike 2 cabinet. I've got speakers in it. It's functioning. I've got a whitewood now, and I'm just, I got the boards, and I'm starting to put them in and starting the wiring. So the hope is to have something flipping by Expo. Okay. That's exciting. Very exciting.
    22:59
    Oh, yeah. And with my low expectations and measure of success, it's already exceeded what I thought I would do. In the windfall. Just bring it to Airbnb and we'll put it on our Instagram and it'll be fine.
    23:15
    You know, one minute I was working in my wood shop in my garage and the next minute I have another game because I have another cabinet. So that was fun. That's phenomenal.
    23:26
    Zach, do you have any questions to end with Don here before we let him get back to saving lives? Yeah, get out there and save some lives, play some pinball, you know? Maybe you can play pinball, like save lives by playing pinball. That's what we need is like some sort of pinball superhero. Save my baby.
    23:44
    All right, so who's going to get the Hasbro license for Operation Pinball? Oh, there you go. Gobble holes without touching the sides. Ooh, that sounds fun. Can I get Indiana Jones, the path of adventure? Well, I know you have a little bit, Don, of a relationship with Jason Knapp. Did you see the post that he did maybe about a month ago where he went to the Hasbro? It was like a Dave and Buster's where everything was, like, enormous.
    24:11
    No, how did I miss that? Yeah, definitely go back and check that out. But it was like they had, like, Battleship and Operation and all of these different wild things. Some of them were just, like, terrible, like, knockoffs of skee-ball, but a few of them were decent. I'll check it out. Yeah, nap's always good for a good time. Final questions, Corbin? Yeah, will we be competing again this year in the Olympics on the treadmill? Oh, possibly, possibly. I'll be there Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So, oh, I don't know on the treadmill, though, man. I mean, I'm glad I did it. We were in the same heat last year, so that's why I was wondering. I think, yeah, we were. Yeah, I'm still out of breath.
    24:51
    Don't look tired on the way back. I'm sure I'll see you at some point out there. Absolutely. That was it. Kyle, final questions, buddy?
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    What release are you looking forward to? Whatever's next. That's always what it is. But I mean, perspective-wise.
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    So, like the big rumors. I want to see what this Harry Potter has to it. I want to see if Pokemon is a real thing. I want to see if there's going to be a brand new Metallica. I want to see if there's going to be a black and white Berrios barbecue challenge.
    25:26
    Yeah, actually, we started working on ours. We're converting it to black and white. We have magic right now. Yeah, we've been sharpening the shit out of it. We've already been set the kit. It was a well-done edition. Yeah.
    25:37
    Some of the stuff's a little crispy here. We broke, hey, we finally broke 1,000 plays on our Berrios barbecue challenge. I was excited about that. 1,000 plays? So you had Berrios at the – So this past weekend I had three – I did a tattoo convention.
    25:53
    Well, there's a tattoo convention going on that they wanted pinballs at. So I took three games there. I took John Wick. I took Berrio's Barbecue Challenge. So it was a John Wick premium, Berrio's, the LE, and then Godfather LE with the topper and all that. How did we come out? Numbers? Yeah, yeah. I got all the numbers. What are your guys' guess? What do you think got played the most? So this was a Friday, Saturday, Sunday deal. I also took an NBA Jam, the arcade game, and a Pac-Man deal. I mean, my guess all day would have been John Wick. John Wick is the top? And then how many plays do you think? What do you think on average? And they were there. They were like 10 to 9. It's like 200 plays on John Wick and 400 plays on Berrios. You think Berrios was the winner? Where's Godfather at? All right, Kyle, where's Godfather?
    26:41
    3.20. Okay, so you think Berrios, Godfather, and Wick at the bottom. Jeff thought Wick was at the top, and then what's the middle? I would have thought Wick, Berrio, and then Godfather at the bottom. Okay, Zach? I'm going to go Godfather, Berrios, John Wick. Don, what do you think?
    26:59
    I think tattoos, classic theme, Godfather top, John Wick next, and then Berrio, just because it's a longer play. Tank the dog? Tank, what do you think? Tank the dog is here today, too. Probably John Wick, Godfather, and then the barbecue challenge. So you said John Wick, Godfather, barbecue. Okay, so the results are Godfather was the winner. Godfather. Really? Really. 415 plays for the weekend. Wick was second at 400, so, I mean, they were close. Yeah. I mean, they weren't far off, and then Barry O's was at 205. Oh.
    27:31
    So, but they were all, I mean, they were all up there, set up, ready to go. So that was the, I was a little bit surprised with the Godfather, but I also, I don't know. That topper draws people in. It does that. It's loud as shit. It definitely catches your attention. Don's a big fan of the accessory kit from The Godfather. He's used them on those pieces and parts on many games. Did Jeff tell you when he put the lockdown bar on how he installed it on this one? So I literally didn't realize that the lockdown bar action button applique was like that it was anything. I thought it was just some ornate whatever. And I put it on, and a week later somebody's like, you know that's on upside down. I'm like, what are you talking about? There's no, like, correct orientation of this. They're like, no, it's lions. I'm like, oh, shit. I've left it because I'm like, this stays. Jeff did that. It's fine. Never live that one down. Mad pinball. All right, so we'll get you out on this, Don. Do you foresee yourself taking any pinball home from this job? I know whenever the last time you were in Ohio working. Was he in Ohio again? I don't know. I thought he said Wisconsin. Oh, he's in Wisconsin. Does the mystery caller want to reveal where he is? Wisconsin right now I am signing a deal to be back in Ohio in September so I don't know maybe it would be fun to have a diner for a little bit love it love it love it alright Don thanks for joining us appreciate you taking the time and coming on we'll talk to you soon Don talk to you later bud anytime alright that was the Don Garrison of Don's Pinball Podcast. Don, thank you so much for taking the last 30 minutes to hop on with us and give everybody your pinball story. Definitely, listeners, if you don't already, check out Don's Pinball Podcast. Absolutely. On any of your podcatchers, he's out there on all of them. He's like a big-time podcaster. He does a lot. His, like, all of his, like, logos and, like, he's official. Yes, Don is legit. He's the one who turned me on to Fiverr. He uses that extensively early on to get a lot of his stuff, and then now he has legit pinball artists doing his logos and banners and shirts and whatever else. So he is definitely the big time. So for us, since we had mystery guests at the beginning, let's circle back for a little fact check. Oh.
    30:00
    This is going to get dirty. I don't know if Ben actually sent me anything. We saw Ben in the flesh. He does want to come on live. He said he'd drive up. If we told him a couple hours in advance, he'd come up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ben was allowed out of the house? We saw him at Vintage Motorcycle Days. He did not ride any motorcycles at all. This disclaimer. Shannon did not. You know, Shannon Nichols. No snowboards at all. I thought she had locked all the doors. No, he came up by himself. That's hilarious. And it was good. It was a good time. Yeah, no, it was good. Glad to see him. One of his buddies was actually racing in one of the events. A couple of heats. Yeah, it was cool.
    30:33
    Well, yeah, Vintage Motorcycle Days was a good time. We're actually talking about taking pinballs next year. The generator topic came up again out there. I feel like we've... Because Adam was listening to it, and he's like, my generator. He said it's a generator, and Ben, if you're listening, we should have asked you while you were there. He said it was a generator inverter. So it had a generator then straight to inverter. It was all built into one of those real nice Hondas. And he was convinced. No, that's a Harbor Freight. It is a Predator. Or it is a China Freight. Never mind. But he said it's equivalent to the Honda. But it's still equivalent to the Honda. It's equivalent to the Honda Predator. I feel like you do generator into the power bank, and then you power the pinball off of the power bank. Yeah, he seemed to think. That's the move. I looked at the bus's inverter. It's, I think, a 2,000 watt. So we might be able to run something off that. Yeah. We also have it broken into breakers. One breaker. It's all one. All right, you're right. I think. All right, the first fact-check clarification here that I want to put out there, we talked extensively. Well, not extensively, but we talked about a Jetsons coming into the fold. And I believe that we said during the episode that it was contracted by Planetary Pinball, but it was actually the pinball company. So I wanted to get that correction on there. Zach, the Jetsons has been hanging out in your garage. Have you gotten any games on it? Yeah, I got some games. Any takeaways, any thoughts? It's really fun. Yes, it's basic. I like how the glow it gives off. it does have those Penn Stadiums in it though but it has real nice just very visual pleasing I think so too I think the art on it is beautiful like those soft tones like it just sounds nice it has authentic Jetsons vibe to it I mean I've enjoyed it the few games I've played on it the boys are having fun with it so are they aware of the show at all? no not yet they love haunted house so the most ridiculous question that i received and this person will remain nameless is why does jeff love shitty games which i found to be very rude messenger then they it's okay but i asked the same thing they commented that i love monday night football and on the dave sussa episode that i said that i love silver slugger and that i have owned multiple uh strange science machines I just want the world to know too Everyone thinks I hate Data East There's a Data East in my house right now And that Data East is Guns and Roses I opened it up and I'm going to be honest Some of the wiring and things are It was very interesting when we carried it Yeah dude like we opened the coin door And right in front of you right there dead center near the trough range It's like two wires stripped Just laying against each other After you had that Frankenstein out of the same warehouse Does anything surprise you anymore? No but But I'm also just like, what? How did this? How does this keep happening? Yeah, I'm excited to get a little time in on it, though. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it takes a little bit of time to get. Do you think I should just do the full, just get wild with it? Yeah, probably. That game is worth it because, I mean, it's not a pristine. It's a, you know. Player's condition or whatever they say. Is that the phrase people use? Player's condition, routed condition. So, I mean, no matter what you do to it, it's, you know, only going to be so nice, but I'd give it a nice treatment. I mean, that can bring some decent money. I feel like I'm going to, now my goal is just wow you with it. Going to love it up. Take it from a turd and turn it into a cat. Make it too nice. After we did that to Frankenstein, we should have kept Frankenstein.
    34:04
    Looking in the rear view mirror now, we definitely should have kept Frankenstein. He could have been in his forever home.
    34:12
    So, there was a message of the Dave versus Kyle story arc that it went from bromance to frenemy to love to hate.
    34:28
    I think we need pizzas, man. We need what? Pizza Let go hang out with Dave If he doesn fill it out I say if he doesn max his number out we drive out Then we go We drive out If nobody buys the rest of his tickets we going to have to So instead of breaking bread, we break pizza.
    34:49
    That's counseling. Pizza versus pizza. I will say, I talked to Dave, though, and he said, that's fine, I'll get you pizza, but you have to play Toy Story. Ooh. He said that should be a true sign of you're making peace with him. No. So was that the deal breaker, Kyle? I'm out. Was the deal breaker with Dave that he called Final Resistance TNA 2 or that he had Toy Story 4? What kind of imposter in this... Dave, I know you're listening, buddy. I'm sorry. I really do love you. I think we can just burn one down and we'd be fine. And have a pizza.
    35:29
    Like a local pizza? Or he's making you a pizza? What's the vision here? We'll make Keith make the pizzas. Yeah, we should have Dave here for when he gets dialed in, and then Keith makes everyone the pizzas. Does he want that dialed in? Yes. Have we talked to him about it yet? I think we can figure it out. Okay.
    35:44
    All right, Dave, we love you, buddy. So at one point in the last episode, someone brought up the game Aztec and the Aztec EM. That sparked something in my mind that I remembered, that our buddy Rob out in Aliquippa has one of ten Aztec solid-state games. Do you remember looking at that when we were out there at all, Corbin? Briefly. Yeah. I don't think I realized the full weight of it. He has so much that it's hard to differentiate. So that would be like, is that like mid, that would be like 76, 75? Yeah, like 76. Yeah. I had a shot at a Mata Hari EM one time. That's a super low one, but it was during COVID, and the guy didn't want to let us in the house after, and then I don't know whatever happened. Because we have both truck stops. or Knight Rider yeah, semis same thing didn't your dad tell the story or maybe you of Matahari when you guys ordered one for Stark Novelty that you ordered an EM and they sent you a solid state I think he talked about that we should have him back on we talked about that on the episode with him because he said my grandpa was super pissed he's like, I don't know what this is because my dad was like, oh, this is a solid state and he's like, no it's not, it's an EM They opened it and he's like, I'm pretty sure this is a solid state. And he was completely like, you know, I know nothing about this. This is no. I mean, it would just be like a foreign language or something that's completely different. Yeah.
    37:13
    All right. So the next item on the notes are we're all been doing a little bit of or going to be doing some traveling or have traveled a bit. I know, Kyle, you were just recently in Pittsburgh and you ended up where?
    37:27
    It was like over a bridge. Okay. Oh, okay. Like the city of Pittsburgh? Like that's the entire city of Shittsburg. There was a river. I mean, shit, there was a bridge. And let's call it the right name, please. Fucking Shittsburg. Dude, you come out of a tunnel, then I went over a bridge. Like, oh, you could be anywhere in Shittsburg right now.
    37:45
    So we had to cut across four lanes to get where we needed to be, of course. Yes, underneath the tunnel. Yeah.
    37:52
    But you were saying they had a back room full of, like, LEs. It was like... Oh, yeah, what are you talking about? Huh? It was all LEs. So did you have to Is this All number 11 Oh Is it It's one of Chris's spots It has to be Yeah Cause he gets all the 11's And like dude I know we Drink in some places Or whatever But We what This is like The shittiest spot Downtown ever I take that Cash only Shitsburg Oh perfect Shitsburg right Cash only You walk in the back room 20 LEs.
    38:33
    Honestly, I dig that kind of vibe. Was it Verdettos? Yes. Perfect. I thought so. I thought when you were describing it. So it's on the North Shore. That's one of his spots. Shorty's Pints and Pins is one of his spots. I know he had Barcadia. I'm not sure if that's still one of his spots or not. And then Pittsburgh Pinball, they have Coupe de Ville, uh vellum fermentation and kickback cafe so i mean there are definitely some real legit pinball spots like right there in the city of pittsburgh we're going to shits we're going that all day or on wednesday should we hit one up we should like if you i don't think you've been to coop de ville before and it's a really awesome spot has a really cool vibe but as soon as kyle sent me that picture he's like there's a bunch of number 11 le's i'm like i know exactly where you are it was all right Yeah, it's definitely not something that you see every day. Just all right. So, Corbin, you and Anna were just traveling a bit, and I know you ended up St. Louis way. What all did you guys see pinball-wise? Pinball-wise, so really we limited it to like a day of pinball because we take a break or whatever. So we went out with the Electric Playground guys. Oh, nice. Robin. We went out with Robin specifically. and we went to Silver Ballroom which I guess is like a classic he's been doing it forever really solid lineup some cool spookies a beautiful champion pub Robin said he did a playfield swap on that exact one so it was nice not a whole lot of sterns there which that's ok we went there and then I hung out with them and got to play. They're actually borrowing Circus Voltar for one of their hopefully future projects. So talk about how you got that Circus Voltar down to St. Louis, Corbin. First off, I want to say about the Electric Playground, guys. I got to check out their shop. Attack from Mars Topper. Wait, is that a public thing?
    40:39
    Either way, it's super cool. They also are doing a black and white Godzilla. It looked really awesome. And I saw a black and white Twilight Zone one there too, a version of their their twilight zone one that was black and white that was super cool but anyway i took circus voltar out there and i borrowed my mother's outback because i was like i assumed it would be the same as like my sister's was this the same outback that uh a certain capcom didn't fit in oh this was a different outback yeah uh 21 i think hers is a 21 now so our sister's kelsey's is what like a 15 kelsey's is a 16 so we borrowed that and i know a wpc will fit in there no problem We've had white water in there. 21 does fit. I'll tell you the truth. 21 does not because they moved the center seatbelt mount over more into the center of the area. And so, like, that's what gets you. Whereas on the 15, it's over on the post, like on the outside. So, anyway, it was like 10 o'clock the night before I leave. I'm out there fighting this thing trying to get in. I'm like, God damn it. I'm already committed. I'd take the head off. I did it. Kyle's glaring at me right now. So there are four of us at this table, and we've all transported games with the head off of the pinball machine due to circumstances. Yeah, and it was like, I guess I could have gotten a truck, but then I'm also like, then I've got to worry about weather. And it's like I wasn't going to meet up with them immediately when I got out there, so then I'd have to sit outside or something. And I'm like, I don't want Circus to sit out. And so I just did it, and it was fine. And then it honestly made it easier to get it then into Robin's basement when we got down there. and it's playing so it's back to life. We had fun. No smoke whenever you fired it up for the first time? I played pinball with them and the next day we went to the city museum and they had a whole pinball section.
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    We're getting ready to go in and they're like, it's $6 more for the pinball floor and I'm like, what? You could have told me it was $18 more for the pinball floor. It could have been more than the ticket. I probably would have been like, they're all EMs at the City Museum, but they had a couple cool ones. They had a teacher's pet, which is always a funny one. That's a funny one, dude. They had the faces, which was the art. That one, after seeing the one up at VFW, then playing this one, that one he has up there. Sonic faces, yeah. That one up there is immaculate. Like, he has a super clean one. Like, I knew it was clean then, but like, playing a comparison, it was like, holy shit. It's the same way with their Mars Trek up there, because I've played a few other places, and the one at VFW is by far the cleanest I've ever played. He has a very, very, very nice version. He doesn't have too many beat-up games up there, really. They're all pretty clean, I would say. No, the only one that comes to mind right away is the version of Dragon that he has. I wouldn't call it Roach, but it's seen some miles for sure. Maybe it's interested in a real fresh one. It's been routed for sure because I think there's a lot of numbers and stuff, like high scores carved around it and all that. But, yeah, definitely all kinds of fun things. So St. Louis is cool. It was a real cool spot. We unfortunately did not make it to Atomic.
    43:41
    We got in later Saturday night. We got in like 8, 8.30, and they were only open until like 10 or 11. So by the time we got to the hotel we were staying at, checked in and everything, it was like, eh, by the time we get there. Because it's like it's not in St. Louis. Like you have to go back over the border like 30, 40 minutes. So is Atomic coin drop or is it you pay per visit? So Atomic used to be CP, which we went to, and it's pay per visit. And it's just like hourly. He's like so much for two, so much for three, or so much the whole day. And then I thought they had switched to being like a bar scene, but then Robin was saying that it's still BYOB and everything like that. Oh, damn. Okay. I would definitely like to make it back out there at some point to check that out. Yeah, that's on my list, and the ballroom had been on my list too. Whenever we went through it was just – It's a classic. Robin described it as like a punk dive bar with pinball, and I think he hit it nail on the head. If you were there and – so they had PBR bottles. if you guessed what card was on the cap, you got the bottle for free. So you get two guesses each time. That's pretty cool. And it was like it had that. It was a cool vibe.
    44:46
    Definitely would need to get back through St. Louis to hit some of these spots. But I'm about to make a little West Coast swing. We're going to fly out on Thursday and end up in Portland, which, as I know, Corbin, you know on Pinball Map, when you used to open it on the older updates, it would automatically start in Portland. Especially if your locations are off. Exactly, which I lived that life for a long time. And it would be like, there are cities with this much pinball? Like, this doesn't make sense whatsoever. The math has chicken pox. You're like, what the hell? Yeah, so it's been a goal of mine to try to get out there. So I definitely, in Portland, want to hit Ground Control, Next Level Pinball Museum, Special When Lit, and Quarter World. All four of those are on my list to try to check out. When you see Jeff come in. no one knows what i look like beautiful ball man stearns i don't care probably wearing a mad pinball shirt i will probably be wearing a mad pinball shirt and i'll probably be handing out some mad pinball stickers but if you're listening to this um as i go through these cities that i'm going to be happening through if there's a spot that's not on my list definitely give us an email at freshpinball at gmail.com and i would love to definitely check out these like hidden gems but then i also in planning on uh up towards tacoma way hitting dorky's arcade and the triple knock which i thought was a pretty cool name and then in spokane washington there's one called the jedi alliance that's on my list and then in helena montana lewis and clark brewing had a nice lineup of of games so a good spot to play some games and have an adult beverage Helena, Montana. It sounds like Hannah, Montana. That's right. I'll be singing some Hannah, Montana. And then when we come back through Idaho... Party in the USA? Yeah, in Boise, I'm going to party at the Idaho Pinball Museum. And then we're going to end up back in Portland. So again, if anybody out there who's listening, if I didn't name something that I absolutely need to see or one of your cool local spots, let me know, because I'm always looking for something a little bit different with some games that you don't see every day. Haven't we talked about that several times, too, where Portland is supposed to be the mecca. I've heard that. I'm very excited. I wish I had more time in just Portland, but you can't just take these trips just for pinball, Jeff. You have to do things for the whole family. Wow. I hope Tia's not listening yet still. She's asleep by now. 47 minutes in. So before I was coming over to record, we somehow got on the topic of the podcast, and she's like, I'm two episodes behind. I'm like, good. I have a few more months to live, though, because once you hear the anniversary episode, it's over.
    47:31
    It's fine. Nobody cares. Everything will be fine. Don't need to go to Taco Town ever again. It's fine. It's delicious. So one of the questions.
    47:41
    It's a bummer, dude. Those are good tacos. We got to move them. The tow truck towed it out the other day. It's gone. Israel Short. The better taco truck is the one over by the warehouse over by the Hall of Fame. That's the spot. right there by the custard corner or whatever it is between that and the gas station 10 out of 10 Kyle's had it we'll go there sounds good but we brought up this whenever we were talking to Don and I thought we could wrap up the episode with each one of us talking about I mean we're approaching an hour by the time we talk about this last subject and we hit events we'll be right there but think about what is the game and it's obviously different for each one of us in terms of games we own, games we have, all of that stuff, of what is the one game that is absolutely bolted? So the one that... Why do you always have to ask me this, dude? It's the hard question. I don't sell any... It's not about selling. If you were going to be sent to prison... Okay, okay, there we go. ...for life, and they said to you, Zach, you can bring one game with you to prison, what's the game? Hmm. I already know. go ahead Kyle you go first I already know what is it man if we're talking about prison then we also need to think about not just what's going to entertain us what's going to give us some kind of street cred in the yard you can't take Dolly Parton or some shit you gotta think about this that might actually help you there either way I'm just saying you gotta think about if we're talking about the prison scenario is he taking February Okay You guys know my fucking answer It's going to be TNA It's TNA I had no doubt It's TNA I don't literally know any modern game That is better than TNA I can see you I really don't I can see you and your cellmate having some epic Oh yeah TNA is honestly I can't for the prison scenario TNA might be the best move I was kind of thinking TNA or the brand new Whitewater in Corbin's house I would love to see where it's like prison and it's like lights out time and they just like pull the switch and then TNA powers down like a single tear just rolls down Kyle's face it's like yeah I mean he had it turned all the way up to 11 oh absolutely he just has it dialed in perfectly it's thumping shit's rattling the cage is rattling around him I don't know Kyle made such a good point I think I'll have to agree with him no no no Kyle's taking that one Corbin you've got to have your own What the fuck Well if I'm probably going to prison it's with Kyle Seems reasonable That's good so we all go You'll have at least three or four Co-op we can always be playing that co-op mode I feel like we could finally get through nine reactors How many years are we going to prison I feel like we can have this conversation Many and many a time Every time What is going to come up I mean that's the game for you I had no doubt when I asked the question that that was going to be the game for you. It's fucking TNA all day. It checks all the boxes.
    50:53
    Alright, I would go with... Are we going to have tools to repair it to? Mm-mm. We also need to be durable. We need to be durable for this time. Fucking hot glue. All you get is a hot glue gun. I feel like that's a consideration because you're probably going to have to fashion your own tools. Or you're going to have to bother the guards and be like, I need another node board or whatever you might need. It's not going to be Rush Premier. No, fuck no.
    51:17
    No, I need some zip ties. Problem solved. Did Ben have the solution to fix Rush? He had an idea about it. We talked about it again this past weekend. Okay.
    51:31
    I might go with... So, instinctively, I would normally think like Circus or Tales of Raven Knights, but then I think... I might go Woz. Ooh! Every time that I think you hate that game, I feel like you love it just as much. Because I think it would be so – like there's enough depth to it at times. Like there enough modes that I continually find and I not like by any means I sure somebody is listening right now like why is this so simple I have like I know everything about it like i don like i continually find new things about it and uh it entertaining and everything so i might go since tna's already taken tales tales of rabian knights or circus voltaire are obviously up there in consideration too but then i think but both of those it's like i pretty much beat like both those and so it's like if you're looking at years of having to play the same thing. I think I could get some longevity out of WOS.
    52:27
    Do you think we're going to get that else water? I'm also assuming. Are we going to buy one? Yes, we're going to buy one. We're absolutely buying one, if that's what you're asking. What do you think? I'm getting one, yeah. I think it's going to be bonkers. What's going to happen? When I was with Robin, I was talking to Robin about this in St. Louis, and he said, I don't know if this is fact or not, he said he talked to his buddy who talked to somebody, blah, blah, blah, and they said it's even better than they imagined. it when they saw the layout and everything. Some of the samples of the art, it's supposed to be that sick. I'm in on it. I was already in on it before that. What game would you take to the grave? To the grave? Maybe it's Alice in Wonderland. I haven't played it yet. Maybe it's Lebowski. Maybe Lebowski. You could bowl for a while too. You had multiple modes. Lebowski is a solid ass game. That could be in the consideration. Alice in Wonderland, have they announced how many of that they're doing? Because I know it's on their limited production thing because they're supposed to finish up Lebowski. I thought maybe like a thousand or something. Okay, so more than I thought. Because if it was 500, that would make it to where it's like might be tough to get.
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    Somebody will. We've got connections. I hope so. We know people now. I hope so. What the fuck are we doing if we can't get an Alice in Wonderland? Then what are we doing? What is the purpose of this podcast if we can't use it to get Pinball Machine? It's just a pinball. That's all we're going for, people. I don't know. That would... I think, yeah. I don't know. I don't think so. So, Waz from Corbin. I don't think I'll say that. All right, Zach, what's your game? Because if I would have had to guess ahead of time, I would have said Big Guns. Well, see, I've beaten Big Guns so many times. That's probably one of those games that I love. They're awesome, but it's nice because I have multiple in the basement. If there's only one, it's different then. It's the same with Funhouse. I love Funhouse, but how many times have I put Rudy to sleep and gotten the multi-ball? Dump the balls in his mouth Right I mean I haven't had a white water at home But it's one whenever I haven't Yeah you've had a white water at home But I'm saying in the two weeks that I had it I didn't get tired of it I wonder if after years That's what I'm trying to think of That's why like any of the Bally's 90s Same like Revenge of Mars There's so many different modes in there I've hit And it's so much fun there's still ones I haven't hit I feel like with one of the Pinball 2000 ones Like if you're in prison You could be programming I could put some programming like a floppy disk reader you should be good I was thinking Lebowski though too I think Lebowski is a solid pick you could do the bowling mode all day then if you're tired of playing normal you go straight to wizard I think that would get you some credit in prison for sure you gotta have the rug for your prison time so we've got Waz we've got Lebowski we've got TNA and that comes down to me everyone knows my love for the Stern Star Trek I love that so it's funny we were setting up our first I think it's going to be a piece of dominoes I was thinking about Jetsons myself our first of the Godzilla 70th editions for Phil we were playing it and I got extra ball and I'm just like Corbin just plunge it I'm already tired of I played ball three way too long He put up Grand Champion too casually. On his new machine. Nice. That's ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Hey, shout out to Stern, though. I mean, that's the way you should be doing it. Shit. It's a beautiful game. Like, don't call it, like, some new 30th, 50th, whatever. The cabin art, the foil, the lacquer art is stunning. Honestly, it's so cool. Sell it as a premium. Yeah, and as people were talking about having issues with tracking the ball across the monochromatic play field, I had zero problem whatsoever, I thought it was very easy to play. I got a glaucoma or something. It was absolutely great. We can cure that. We can help you. So as much as people bash my taste in games, I'm going to say if I had one game that I would take to prison for the rest of my life, it would be Strange Science. Oh, okay. Really? And here's my reasoning. I think I could choose Big Bang Bar, and then I'd have one. Damn, I should have done that. Fuck, I fucked up. Anyway, go on. No, it has the five-ball multi-ball that you load into the Atom Smasher, and it doesn't eject the balls in between games. So now I could just play that all-day multiplayer. I would just not get tired of it, ever. All right, we're going to come over and take the rest of your games, leave Strange Science, and we're just going to see. We're going to see how many days it takes before you're like, hey, maybe could you bring back... Could you guys bring me something else? Could you bring Domino's back? Could you bring me anything at all? Big Bang Bar might have been my... Dude, I didn't think about Big Bang... I was thinking of things we had. I know. Things that we have time over. I never had time over. What are you talking about? Somebody trying to trade you a Big Bang Bar? What? Oh, yeah. They were trying to trade a Big Bang Bar. For what? Foo Fighters. Bro. I think you're full of shit. I'm in, dude. Let's do it. They need two. I'll give them two. Three. I'm going to give them three, yeah. Throw in a Venom. Them three. In a Venom. All right, so before we... In a Venom. Bring me... Before we hit the events here, I definitely do want to give a shout-out from Mad Pinball to all of our manufacturing partners. We've just had some amazing experiences recently, but we've definitely had a nice run here with Turner Pinball. They've sent up to us their Ninja Eclipse, and we've run it around Ohio. And the reactions to it have been just mind-numbingly positive. people really blown away with the build quality the depth the layout everything about the game so shout out definitely to our friends over at turner pinball uh corbin and i will actually be taking it over to the pins in pittsburgh pennsylvania on wednesday it's like quarter up till then yeah it'll be running at quarter up uh well i'll be publishing this on tuesday podcast time so you got a day you've got a day get up there and play it while you can but it'll be going over to all of our pinball friends in pittsburgh it's going to run there for a couple weeks and then it'll go up and be at pocketeers for a week and it'll be at dave seuss's event uh the uh most importantly and then it'll come back down to pittsburgh for a chunk of time and then we'll announce where where that baby's headed next but if you're interested in the game you have questions on it questions on deposits anything like that email jeff at madpinball.com or corbin at mad pinball.com uh i had an email today where someone was like hey i'm very interested in this game just you know a little weary of putting a thousand dollars down i think between what um turner pinball is offering and our backing of the the game as well i think we can put your mind at ease that this is something that uh you're interested in we could it's gonna get made i mean it's gonna ship it'll ship by the end of the year most i think i believe they're gonna start production here shortly they're getting parts in now and uh i spoke with mr turner earlier in the week and he said they have parks going in as we speak this game is happening they are building it it's like a real life game it's the real thing uh but we're excited for that so what do we have coming up event wise corbin uh so i definitely want to cover that you know the past uh couple that we did with the ninja eclipse have been awesome it's been good to see everybody out um i don't know what do we have yeah we had the sweeper city championships which was a huge hit We had it over at Unhitched which was awesome We had our John Wick launch parties Which was great So we're going to be coming into August now Which is a little bit usually of a Downturn of pinball events But you can look forward to seeing any of our Cool Stern pinball items that are coming in If they run any of these Vault games That are being heavily rumored When that game comes in We'll be popping it out there for the people to check out We'll do some at Unhitched next month We definitely need to do something over at Unhitched Does it rhyme with I was texting Possibly I was texting Ben up at quarter up too And he was saying we'll have something up there too We just haven't locked anything in yet So if you're in the Akron area Every Monday 7pm Quarter up Akron down in the valley They have something going on And Corbin is pretty phenomenal about Almost every week if not every other week That there's something different up there for people to get excited about I think maybe Rolling Stones LA would be a cool one to make an appearance. I guess we could throw that in and just replace Ninja Eclipse with that. Yeah. Or take Lebowski. I mean, just the things that you have up there on the regular basis of a Bond 60th and some of the other games is just... They have a Johnny Mnemonic right now. Yeah, not to crap on other locations, but there's always some special things over there. Yeah, let's do Rolling Stones. There aren't many places where you can walk in where it's like you have legit nice EMs and some early solid states and 90 Bally's Williams and just then the most freshest of the fresh pinball. Yeah, electric playground toppers, too.
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    The Godzilla and Twilight Zone are up there right now. Yep. The next season of the Hoover Pinball League Tuesday Night Leagues will kick off tomorrow, July the 30th. I know this is obviously short notice, but the nice thing with the Hoover Pinball League is you don't have to show up every week. You have make-up dates and all kinds of ways to get your game banks in. So if you're interested in playing in a super casual league, whether you're five years old or 95 years old, how accepting or open it is to everybody. From novices to someone who's never flipped a game to someone who's a state champ, we literally can see everyone come through there and have an absolutely phenomenal time at the Hoover Pinball League.
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    All right. Final thoughts, Kyle? Don't even put your finger on that button yet because I know you're waiting for me to start talking. play better. I've got to ask a question real quick. You asked Don about his top pizza. What's your top pizza?
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    I'm just curious. I've been thinking about it. Is yours that Chicago one we get with the seafood? Yeah. Is it? Was that place called Crust or Slice? It was good. It's called Peace. That's what it was. Think about this too. We're going to ask you too. Top pizza.
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    All right. What's your top pizza, Corbin? No, I'm last. What are you? Oh, well, so I'm. I asked the question. So in Chicago, Pequod's is, that's my favorite pizza of all time. Have you ever taken me there? You've been there twice, as a matter of fact. Oh, that place you took me and I've already been there. Yes, exactly. That is really good pizza. We went there. That's where we went on our layover to Egypt. That's the place he's talking about. Okay, yeah. That's his top pizza. Yeah, yeah. That's good pizza. Pequod's is my jam. All right. But have I taken you there? Yes, Corbin. You've been there.
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    went to the second floor, I'd know I'd been there. Zach, top pizza, buddy. I'm going to Luigi's out of Akron.
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    Can't go wrong with Luigi's. You gotta wait like six hours, but you know. If you are visiting Akron, go to Luigi's and make sure you have some cash in your wallet. It's cash only. Which makes you know it's legit. Get a pizza and some pasta. I do both. It's also good. But even if you want to go light, you're in there for lunch, they do slice and a salad and a soda, and it's light. And their salad has like six pounds of cheese on top of it. Last time we went up, it was a Monday. We were talking. It was like on the Saturday or Sunday. We're like, oh, we should go up. And then we're like, we'll wait till Monday. It won't be as busy then. We get up there on a Monday night. The line's still out the door. Oh, yeah. Two people are like, the line's outside. It's like, of course it is. For 70 years, it's just a line out the door every day. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Printing cash. Tank? Oh, no doubt. Hey, wake up. Tank, what's your favorite pizza? My favorite pizza? Yeah. I'm pretty simple I like Giannino's Shout out to Keith Oh Keith's pizza Thanks to Giannino's In case you guys didn't hear It's a local-ish Shout out to my You're local right? You used to work there right? Slinging some pies My buddy Joe Rock Alliance Genius Yeah, right across the street there Oh, no Is that where you're going? 47 years old That seems a little young That's rough It's not young No, that's rough Well, on that note, Corbin Yeah You guys have covered a lot of good ones already I mean, I'll agree with Jeff's The place that I didn't know the name of I went to twice They have some good pizza Luigi's is banging That place Whenever we go to Peace, it's good I'm going to say then I'm going to guess Is it pizza oven?
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    I didn't think about that A legit good pizza oven pizza With double cheese I go extra sauce We talked about this Victoria's Alliance was on a I'm between three It's either pizza oven Pizza oven is very good Local pizza oven Krause's double the double crust pizza. The tapa. That's number four now. Lindsay's is so good. I always love me some Italos. And I'm also about I'll just say in general, any of the random pizzas that Unhitched or Mike's Pizza does. Shout out Alex. Alex, they have a I know you're listening right now. They have a sloppy joe pizza that they're doing right now that I've definitely got to get out and try.
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    I'm about like the random What time is it? Oh, man, I might still be able to get some pizza in the night. We'll see. Hmm. It's 1024. I know. I had some genie notes for dinner with the boys. Can I give an update about my German mailbox? Oh, yes, we definitely need it. Wait, wait, wait. Everybody's thought. I need to post up those pictures because that's looking sweet. It looks real nice. It looks nice. So as if you've been following along, I'm sure everyone has, I was using my German PO box again. For good, not for evil this time. Yeah, and I ordered some parts for Congo. And, Jared, I got them for you, too.
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    And I ordered some inside art, some replacement plastics, and the ones that should have been on there. And I put them on. Totally worth all the – they showed up. Oh, yeah, I'll back up. They showed up. The P.O. Box worked. It was actually pretty quick. It took, like, I'd say less than a week from when I actually ordered it. That's not bad. That's pretty good, dude. A week to a week and a half from Germany to my P.O. Box. And that's with me, like, having to fix my – the wording of how I write. So it went to your German P.O. box and then went to the other, right? So it left the company, went to the P.O. box, and then came to my real mailbox. Yeah, that's pretty quick. For like a week, week and a half. Yeah, it's not bad, dude. Sometimes you order stuff from California or somewhere, and it's like three weeks later. So it showed up, and it was in good condition. I also ordered the audio-visual WPC-95 board from them and threw that in tails, and it's working. So overall, I'd say a success. Five out of five. Would order again. I would. And I mean, I paid for the box for the year again. So I have it as an option. So now Corbin could be everyone's mule for these parts. It was like $12 to $15 for the year. It was not an expensive investment. Yeah, I thought so. All right, Kyle, give us that mad pinball jingle. If you need some new, used, any kind of pinball at all. I think we have one more black and white Godzilla. If no one buys it, I'll open it. If someone buys it, that'd be fine too. I want to keep one of the trade-ins instead. We have Rush coming up on production. We've got some Deadpool Pros. Stern just announced they're about to run Mandalorian Pro and Premium for the first time in two or three years. If you've been waiting for one and you want one, now's the time. Ship those Pros with that nice crossover ramp. Oh, man. Son of a bitch. Love it, love it, love it.
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    Hit us with that jingle, Kyle. Thank you, everyone, for listening, and have a fantastic night. Next week, we'll do No Rules, Jeff's Out of Town. When the cat's away, the mice will fly.
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