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PNP Episode 502- Is Jack Dangers Next Pin Coming Soon?+ Kaneda Cancelled+ Whale Tale

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Aug 19, 2022
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TL;DR

Jack Danger may be designing Stern's next game; Kaneda Podcast cancelled.

Summary

Orville Albert discusses speculation that Jack Danger may be designing Stern's next pinball machine based on his recent social media activity and reduced streaming presence. He praises Danger's innovative design philosophy, particularly the outlane spinner mechanic concept. The episode also covers Kaneda's Pinball Podcast going on hiatus/being cancelled and briefly mentions a Stern Trailer Park Boys themed machine (Trailer Trash).

Key Claims

  • Jack Danger has been missing more livestreams than usual in the last 3-4 weeks, suggesting he may be working on a new Stern machine

    low confidence · Orville Albert, based on social media observation and reduced Deadflip streaming activity

  • Jack Danger's Home Pin Pinball is better than any American Pinball machine ever made, and arguably better than any Spooky Pinball game except Rick and Morty

    medium confidence · Orville Albert's opinion based on design quality and budget efficiency

  • The outlane spinner mechanic would auto-save balls that exit down outlanes at high speed where player intervention was impossible

    medium confidence · Orville Albert's interpretation of Jack Danger's design concept from livestream discussions

  • Kaneda's Pinball Podcast is on hiatus or has been cancelled

    medium confidence · Orville Albert reporting on Chris Koularis's status

  • John Graywich has a Stern pinball machine for a Trailer Park Boys project now called 'Trailer Trash' or 'Trailer Trash the Pin'

    medium confidence · Orville Albert identifying this as a 'whale' (high-value collector machine)

Notable Quotes

  • “I have no insiders. I'm not John Craig Bobby. I don't have anyone on the inside at Stern. I have no clue. But just a couple things I'm seeing on social media making me think that maybe Mr. Jack Danger might be making the next pin.”

    Orville Albert @ ~12:00 — Establishes the speculative nature of the Jack Danger claim while building the case based on observable patterns

  • “Jack Danger's Home Pin Pinball, like, for Grand US, is better than any American Pinball pinball machine ever. I would even argue it's better than any Spooky Pinball game ever.”

    Orville Albert @ ~40:00 — Strong endorsement of Jack Danger's design quality and relevance to future work

  • “what the spinner would do is the spinner would track how fast the ball went down through the out lane and if the ball went through the out lane faster than... if it made more than I would I don't know I'll say 30 spins if you ripped it more than 30 spins then what would happen is you would get like an auto feature on a kickback”

    Orville Albert @ ~28:00 — Detailed explanation of the outlane spinner mechanic concept from Jack Danger's design philosophy

  • “we hate it when you get a power outlane. So when you're playing and you're shooting everything you're supposed to and the ball is just going so fast that you had zero chance of nudging it out of the out lane.”

    Orville Albert @ ~25:00 — Articulates the player problem that the outlane spinner mechanic aims to solve

  • “Chris just said, Jon Hey, the volume is way too loud. He didn't bother to say give me any compliments or anything like that, which, you know, fair enough.”

    Orville Albert @ ~5:00 — References Chris Koularis's only feedback on the previous episode before his podcast went on hiatus

Entities

Jack DangerpersonOrville AlbertpersonChris KoularispersonJohn GraywichpersonJohn CraigpersonStern PinballcompanyAmerican PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyZach Sharpeperson

Signals

  • ?

    machine_intel: Speculation that Jack Danger may be designing the next Stern pinball machine based on reduced streaming activity and social media posts about stress/being busy

    low · Orville Albert observes Jack Danger posting about stress and missing streams more frequently in recent weeks, coupled with the typical design cycle timeline (~1.5-2 years since Home Pin Pinball release)

  • ?

    design_innovation: Outlane spinner mechanic that tracks ball speed and grants auto-save kickbacks when power outlanes occur

    medium · Detailed explanation of mechanic from Jack Danger livestream design discussions; described as addressing player frustration with unavoidable power outlanes

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Jack Danger represents innovative, player-focused design approach different from established legendary designers

    medium · Orville Albert praises his ability to implement innovative features within budget constraints and emphasis on listening to younger player demographics

  • ?

    community_signal: Kaneda's Pinball Podcast by Chris Koularis is on hiatus or has been cancelled

    medium · Orville Albert discusses podcast cancellation and references Chris's only feedback being volume complaint on previous episode

  • ?

    product_launch: Stern released or is shipping Avatar and Godzilla pinball machines recently

    high · Referenced as existing games Orville Albert has not yet played but acknowledges as available

Transcript

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0:00
All get around, he's on the rebound, hear the sound of our buddy, oh lordy, it's Orby, pinball now to rejoice, he's tugging pinball, craft beer and coffee, miffed with syrup and honey, hopes to laugh with his family in a random tangent, stories of his boys, he's on the poor man's pod network, we're gonna get more listeners, for the Pinball Nerds Podcast.
0:32
Coming to you from beautiful River Hibbert, Nova Scotia. Welcome back, Pinball Nerds, to episode 502 of your fifth favorite pinball podcast. My name is Orbital Albert, and on today's episode, we are going to be talking about a few different topics, including, and perhaps the most provocative of all, I'm going to be outing the whale. I'm going to be telling you one of the whales that Mr. John Graywich has got for his, well, formerly Trailer Park Boys project, now just entitled Trailer Trash, Trailer Trash the Pin. So I'm going to be outing one of the whales. I'm sorry, John. I have to do it. I just, it has to be talked about. Also on this show, I'm going to be talking about why I'm so excited and why I actually believe that there's a very good chance that The next Stern pin is going to be by Mr. Jack Danger himself. A couple of things I've been seeing recently. You know, I have no insiders. I'm not Craig Bobby. I don't have anyone on the inside at Stern. I have no clue. But just a couple things I'm seeing on social media making me think that maybe Mr. Jack Danger might be making the next pin. And I'm going to be telling you why I'm so excited about that. Also on deck, lastly, and hopefully, probably, maybe not least, but Mr. Chris Koularis of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast is on a self-proclaimed hiatus currently.
2:05
We're going to be talking about that as well as Kaneda being cancelled. So, I mean, you know, or Kaneda cancelling. I don't know. We don't know. I'm going to be talking about all those three things. First and foremost, I wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you so much. I haven't looked in a couple days, but my very first show over on Poor Man's Network, I don't know if it was just the power of the tribe or if just everybody loved Ian and Drew so much that they thought they would give the new Poor Man's Pinball Network show a try. But to each and every one of you who listened, thank you so much. I had a great time with Craig Bobby. I had some really good feedback. A lot of people loved the interview. I did hear from Glenn the Skateboarder as well as actually Chris from Canada's Pinball Podcast. Chris just said, hey, the volume is way too low. He didn't bother to say give me any compliments or anything like that, which, you know, fair enough. I know we gave him a couple shots there. I don't think that's why he left Pinball Podcasting, but who knows? It might have had something to do with it. I have no clue.
Home Pin Pinball
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Trailer Trash (Trailer Trash the Pin)game
Kaneda's Pinball Podcastorganization
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collector_signal: John Graywich owns a Stern Trailer Park Boys themed machine (Trailer Trash/Trailer Trash the Pin) as a 'whale' machine

medium · Orville Albert identifies this as one of the 'whales' in the community and mentions it changed from 'Trailer Park Boys' branding to 'Trailer Trash'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community excitement building around Jack Danger's potential next project based on observable behavioral changes

    medium · Orville Albert discusses increased speculation and optimism about Jack Danger's involvement in next Stern machine

  • ?

    content_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast episode 1 received strong audience engagement (700+ listens) comparable to major podcast interviews

    high · Orville Albert reports first episode had more than 700 listens, exceeding his typical top 3 shows combined

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Jack Danger working at Stern as full-time designer; balancing streaming commitments with design work

    high · Established fact that Orville uses to explain reduced livestream activity and increased apparent stress

  • ?

    event_signal: Multiple pinball tournaments upcoming: NYC Pinball Championships, Canadian National Exhibition Toronto (2+ weeks), Fundio Flippers September 10th, and Halifax/Star Trek tournaments

    high · Orville Albert discusses multiple upcoming tournaments with dates and locations

    • 3:06
    But more than 700 of you had listened, like, I don't know, maybe a week ago I checked or something. So that was just crazy. That's more than, you know, my, like, top three shows combined. Like, I don't know, interviewing Christopher Franchi, Jack Danger combined. I don't think I got that many listens. Probably pretty darn tootin' close. So I'm really appreciative for all the listens. I did hear some feedback that the volumes were low. I got a lot of good feedback from Glenn, but one of the negative pieces of feedback he gave me was that the volume was very low. So I'm going to work better at getting the volumes better. That was my first time recording a podcast with an interview in over a year, guys. So go easy on me. I'm not like some of the other pinball podcasters who work for radio stations or used to work in radio and currently, you know, make a living from doing artistic endeavors, including sound quality stuff. That's not my forte, but I want to get better, and I do want to actually get a better mic. I think that's what I might be asking Santa Claus for this year because I've had this little snowball for a while. Of course, the issue was I did not have the mic recording Craig Bobby turned up quite high enough. I think I had it at 85%. I probably should have had it at 100% because I speak very loudly, And of course, he wasn't here directly in the room with me. And I was watching the levels a little bit on Audacity, but I also just had a great time. I was chatting with him and just sometimes probably wasn't watching as good as I should have. And I should have just moved the snowball mic closer to the speaker where Craig Bobby's voice was coming out of. But you don't want to hear about that. You want to hear about what I'm here to say today. And let's start with Jack Danger. I really want to start with the most positive piece of this. I don't know if this is true, but it would appear to me that in the last three or four weeks, I have seen Jack Danger miss more shows than typical. Now, since Jack Danger has started working at Stern as a designer, we have seen the deadflip livestream channel that Jack Danger is the host of. Of course, he's doing less of it because he has less time. and I applaud him for taking that extra time for his family, his friends, his mental health and honestly, as cool as it is to watch him do live streams I think that he makes an even bigger impression on the pinball community or pretty close by being a pinball designer especially if his designs are innovative and renowned and I think that for all the same reasons that Dead Flip Channel was just the top of its game, obviously has the most followers of anyone in the pinball genre Even if it's just Jack Danger on a Tuesday night playing a game, he usually gets as many, if not more, than many large tournaments that are being streamed. Speaking of tournaments, this weekend is the New York City Pinball Championships. Is that on Backhand Pinball? I can't remember. Go check out the New York City Pinball Championships on Facebook or just Google it, and you can find it where they're live streaming. Of course, it is the Canadian National Exhibition in Toronto for two weeks, and there's going to be two, heck, is it three weeks of pinball? I think it's at least two weekends of pinball. And that has started now. I don't think they have a dedicated live streamer. I was thinking maybe just maybe the pinballers, Mike and Liesl Castleman. And, of course, Carter, their son, who is probably the best pinball player of all of them. Sorry, Mike. Depending on the tournament and the day, probably. Carter looks like usually he's been beating his dad lately. I thought maybe they would do some streaming for him, but I'm not sure. I did want to give a big thank you, though, to all of the Castlemans, but especially Lisa Castleman for purchasing some tea. They got two awesome teas off us. I threw in an extra free one. I tossed in a pack of Toronto Blue Jays 1990s, just like I think you got them at McDonald's. They were like 99 cents. It's not that big of a deal, but it's kind of a fun little thing. You might get like Joe Carter out of it or I don't know, Roberto Alomar's Taste of the Punch. Remember him? I love those commercials. I love that fruit punch. Not really. It was low-quality crap, but I love the commercial. Anyways, I sent that all off to them. And I just want to say thank you to everybody, especially, and there has been some pinball nerds that have ordered so far as well. Joe Cervino from Pinball Degenerates, thank you for your coffee order. And, of course, Lisa, who I think she listens to the podcast, I hope she listens to the podcast. I know she listened when they were on, I'm sure. They were on my old show about a year and a half ago, two years ago, I believe. So probably Carter Castleman's first time on any type of podcast, I would guess. But that was really fun. Let's go back to what we were talking about. Wait, hold on. I have to say one more shout out to a couple of the poor men, or at least some of the tribe members, Kaz and Jonathan Hall. Thank you and happy birthday. Happy birthday to those nerds. Happy freaking birthday to those nerds. Happy freaking day of birth, Mr. J. Hall and Brian Kosner. Happy freaking birthday to you. nerds and many more um i owe you guys a birthday beer when i first get to come down and see you guys at one of the shows um but if if you haven't had the chance guys say happy birthday to them hopefully i get this podcast up today which is the 19th of august 2022 hopefully i get it up today um two more quick house queeping keep keeping queeping things queefing house queefing no we don't want that we want housekeeping two more housekeeping things um i'm going to be going to a fundio flippers pinball tournament i believe it's coming up on september 10th i will pull it up right here now and check and when i'm going to that if you're someone who's coming to that and you uh are considering maybe bringing a neighbor a friend uh i know it's going to be in saint john it's going to be at tom mcarthur's tom tom and june's house in um saint john new brunswick if you're planning on coming to that, please consider bringing a family member who's never came before, a neighbor, did I say a family neighbor? A family member, a neighbor, a co-worker, a friend, someone who's never came before. By you doing this, not only will you get a free bag of coffee or a free bag of tea of your choice from Angry Alpaca, I'm going to have a whole bunch there, Danielle and I are both coming to that one, hopefully we can get the day off of the market and come up as a family. And not only will you get a free, not a full-size, like, you know, $22 bag of Angry Alpaca, like, the best part of waking up is Orbeez coffee in your cup. No, you're not going to get, like, a full, like, giant bag, but we have, you know, sample bags that are, like, $7. So you get one of those bad boys, or you can pick yourself a full-size tea, you know, tea package. and I'm going to bring lots of that and not only will you get one for bringing the newbie because we need more numbers. Sometimes we only get 12 people, sometimes we only get 14, sometimes 16. At a private residence, you really get, well, I know that IFPA used to require 16, but apparently it's not anymore, which is great. But still, we would like to get more people out and I would like to encourage some new blood to come out because it's kind of like the same old people we were seeing before COVID, which is great most of those people are coming. I know we did miss Chris Ewell at the last one there. I didn't quite make finals at the last one. Doug Parsons won that one. That was at Zero's in good old Moncton. But to everybody listening to this who lives on the East Coast, if you're considering coming, you're going to get a free product from Angry Alpaca and your friend who you bring. So get out there and annoy some family members, annoy some neighbors, bug some. Don't annoy them. You don't want to come in too hardcore. But, yeah, just say, hey, if you come, by the way, just for checking it out, you're going to get to pick a free product from Angry Alpaca Coffee and Tea.
    10:51
    And then also I am heading up to Propeller. There's a tournament. Both of these are listed on the IFPA. So if you want to get exact dates or locations, just go on to the IFPA and either type Halifax or type St. John, and you'll be able to find the exact days. I believe that that next one is next Sunday, though. And I wish I'm not honestly great with dates. But to all the pinball nerds out there who are considering coming to either of those, I will be at both of them. It's going to be a good time.
    11:26
    Yeah, it'll just be good to see everybody. Okay, here it is. It is September 10th at 1 p.m., Saturday, September 10th. So I'm very excited for that. That one is, of course, at Tom and June's house in St. John. All right, next thing I wanted to talk about is Mr. Jack Danger and why it is that I'm so excited to see what he does next. First of all, on social media, at least three times this week, he said either something to do with, you know, he's going through a bit of stress. I think the post yesterday was, you know, I'm or something was going on. Send me some funny jokes or something. Right. Like and then a post a couple of days ago, he was talking about how he's not going to be able to make it in on a couple of days this week because he was super busy or at least that night he wasn't going to be able to make it in. And then I noticed just it seemed in the last week or two, maybe even three weeks, especially now that I've been watching Twitch more at nighttime, I noticed that he hasn't been around as much, even like less than usual. And that would lead me to suspect that possibly since it's been, you know, it's been about that amount of time. It's been, what, a year and a half, two years since Star Wars. Maybe hasn't been that long. Just in my head, maybe it's been that long. But it's been quite a while since his home pin came out. so it would lead me to believe that you know it's it's getting darn tootin close to his turn in the cycle and that he's probably getting close and even if the next pin released by stern is not jack danger's pin i'm still excited to see what he does and it's not just because it has the outlane spinner now i've seen a lot of people joking about the outlane spinner like it's it's not a serious thing it is a real thing the main reason why and i don't want to speak for jack but just from you know, listening to his live streams. And I don't mean I've seen him, his live stream, like 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, a hundred times. I've probably watched, I don't know, over five, six, seven years of watching probably thousands of hours of content, or at least the very bare minimum, hundreds of hours of content, including, I don't know, a dozen or so nights when he is actually talking about design implementation and he's doing what he calls crowdfunding, building a pin. And he would sit there with like the what is it the uh it's like autocad but for pinball i forget what it's called virtual pin app up and everybody in the chat he'd be saying what do you think about this idea and what do you think about this one and what i can remember from jack talking about the outlane spinner obviously you'd never purposely aim for an outlane so it doesn't you don't want to rip the spinner the harder the better from what i understood this outlane spinner had one purpose and the well okay it had two purposes The secondary purpose is just to look rad as hell because that's just like a cool, funny, hilarious feature to have there. The other reason is because Jack, like many other pinball nerds, especially you hear it more so from tournament players, but you hear it from live streamers as well, we hate it when you get a power outlay. So when you're playing and you're shooting everything you're supposed to and the ball is just going so fast that you had zero chance of nudging it out of the out lane. And sometimes you've just like, you've perfectly hit an orbit shot or you've perfectly hit, you know, a shot into a scoop that the game required you to. And all of a sudden, boom, just due to very bad luck, you get a power right or a power left out lane. And when you get that power out lane, you had no chance of saving it. Like not even Keith Ellwin on his best day after five espressos could have saved it. You know what I mean? That type of power out lane. and what the spinner would do is the spinner would track how fast the ball went down through the out lane and if the ball went through the out lane faster than you know if it got more than I would I don't know I'll say 30 spins if you ripped it more than 30 spins then what would happen is you would get like an auto feature on a kickback now even if the out lane spinner was near the very top of the out lane I don't know if the spinner could get enough spins to track how fast the ball's going before it would get to where the kickback would actually be and how hard to automate that would be. So I don't suspect that's how it would work. I think it would be like a ball save that, you know, the ball goes down into the trough, then it's calculated by then, and then it shoots up back through the, like it auto-plunges through the shooter lane. And so that's what I think. And I think that's a terrific feature because on one hand, you have a game like Toy Story 4 that's almost too easy. when you see a guy like Zach Menny, you know, on the Flippin' Out livestream with Joel from Triple Drain on there, and on Zach's very first game, he's not even a tournament player. He is a better player, I think, though, than most people suspect, because I have watched him livestream quite a few times. He is a very, he's a fairly talented player. I'm not going to say very good player. I don't think he would, you know, if he had a time machine, he could go back to Pemberg and win it or anything. But he's a very good player. So anyone saying, oh, if Zach beats it on the first time, it must be the easiest game ever. Well, he also had it for quite a bit of time as well, and he had said he had never got to that. So I believe that he had never got to that mode before. But on that particular game, part of the issue is once you light the left out lane,
    16:32
    excuse me, once you left the left out lane, there's absolutely, you know, that's the place where the ball is going to get away from you the most and go out. And so now you've got rid of, what, 60% of the balls that would go out, 70% of them? So getting that unlimited kickback is crazy, which I don't think any game should have unlimited kickback on any side, really. Maybe during a particular, if you get all the way to wizard mode or something like that, you know what I mean? If you're in a multi-ball, I don't know. But what I do really like is that if the spinner can track within a percentage of clarity, hey, was this a power outlaying that no one could have got? Fine, we're going to give you this ball back. and you call it the whatever, Jack Danger Outland Specialty Kickback, I don't know, whatever, you call it the Danger Kickback. If he had a cool name for it, I don't know. I don't even know if that's something that maybe we're spending too much money on the bomb for something you don't ever purposely aim for. Or maybe it's just silly. Or maybe Gary Stern just thinks that outland spinners are just crazy. I don't know. Or George Gomez. I don't know. Maybe it never happens. But just the idea that Jack would come up with an idea, and I don't know, maybe Scott Denise came up with it. He jokes about it being his idea, so I'm not really sure who came up with it. But Jack was definitely the one that was talking about it within his community on Deadflip when they were doing the Maker Nights. And it is kind of a funny thing to say. I joked around about, okay, why not a triple out-lane spinner? And that was just, you know, that's obviously going too far. But imagine if every time a power outlanes to, say, the left lane on Turtles, where the ball goes a lot, if all of a sudden this auto-plunged kickback nailed it right back onto the playfield seconds after it went down because it power outlaned that hard, that fast, like no one could have caught it, right? And I do think that's a neat feature. But it's not just that feature and whether or not Jack Danger actually uses that feature that matters. What matters is that he's thinking about pinball and pinball design from a new, refreshing point of view. He has done probably more research on what the younger pinball demographic, like the pinball demographic that is in his chat is on average, I would say, far younger than the average person watching a pinball live stream and definitely way younger than the average person working at a pinball company. Right. And so we all love Pat Lawler. We all love Steve Ritchie. But for years and years and years, we've wanted new blood in there. and we want the innovativeness that we saw Jack Danger have in the first pin. If he could take a home pin and he could put a jump ramp in, and American Pinball couldn't even do that in Hot Wheels with that many good designers and that many people who have worked in pinball that long, they couldn't figure out it was a smart move to put a little jump shot in there, and Jack Danger could do it and implement it so well. I honestly truly believe, and I'm sorry American Pinball, I even do like Houdini. Houdini's by far your best game, okay? But Jack Danger's Home Pin, like, for Grand US, is better than any American pinball machine ever. I would even argue it's better than any spooky game ever, and the arguability there would probably be Rick and Morty, because Rick and Morty just had the most incredible implementation of call-outs, animations, artwork, and fun, cool stuff to shoot on there. But I'm just saying that obviously costs way more than Star Wars the Home Pin, right? So if Jack Danger could do something that incredible on such a lower bomb, imagine what he can do. How much more is the bomb on a frickin' LE than on a Home Pin? It's got to be at least twice as much, right? Or at least 60, 70, 80% more. So if he can get 60, 70, 80% more into a premium LE than he got into the Home Pin and keep the bomb the same for Stern or come within the restraints that he has, I think whatever game you see from him will be so refreshing. It's going to have, I'm not going to say it's going to have features that are going to blow you away, and I'm definitely not going to say it's going to be better than Godzilla because that game is incredible and I still haven't played it.
    20:34
    I matter than King Kong. I need to play Godzilla. I can't wait to play it. I don't know anyone on the East Coast. Please, if you're listening to this and you're on the east coast of Canada. I don't even care if you're a newfound land. I will take the 16-hour ferry over. I got to play some Godzilla. I still haven't played Stranger Things. That's also irritating. Someone, if you have Stranger Things, let me know. I'd really like to play it. Man, I listened to the last pinball show, and I really missed Craig Bobby, and I was a little surprised. I thought for sure, for sure, for sure that, you know, Zach, many would mention where Craig is because normally we get an update like, oh, he's gone camping or, I mean, I know where Craig is. he's obviously on the Toronto Island practicing his disc golf skills. So when we go frothing, he doesn't lose to me. But, no, I'm just kidding. I do apologize, Craig. I'm really sorry I didn't make it up to the C&E for this tournament.
    21:29
    Financially, cash flow-wise, things are doing a bit better for us here on the homestead, which is nice. I was supposed to get to go to the Fredericton Market last night and do a live stream with Mr. David Dennis, of course, of Pinball Chronicles, but I was not able to, Silver Ball Chronicles, Pinball Chronicles. I was not able to because we had the solar people here. So, I mean, it was like bad news because we didn't get to go to the market there. And I heard there was like 80, 90 vendors. We probably would have done very well. I didn't get to go pick up all my comic books from my buddy Don there in Fredericton. Sorry, Don. I didn't get to go live stream. But I am going to the market next Thursday. Unfortunately, David Dennis has gone to Prince Edward Island, but I'm hoping to make it over to Prince Edward Island during his trip, go to Seven's Pinball-O-Rama just outside of Charlottetown, beautiful Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, and play a little bit of pinball with him there, the Canada's largest pinball arcade up here on Prince Edward Island, like an hour from my house. So I'm hoping to get the chance to go do that with him as well. That's one of three pinball events coming up. And then another really fun thing coming up for me, I think next week or the week after, I'm going to go get to go see probably my second favorite, maybe third favorite East Coast musician, Mr. Ashley McIsaac from famed songs Devil in the Kitchen and Sleepy Maggie, I believe was his other kind of big hit way back in the day. But if you've never heard Ashley McIsaac, I've played him out of 500 episodes, probably three, four, too many times. To any of the pinball nerds that have heard each and every episode, they're like, no more Ashley McIsaac. Stop it. Just stop it. But it sounds like a rock band met like a Celtic fiddler. So it's kind of like, you know, it's crazy. But I'm going to play a little bit of that as the outro music. for the intro music I have to stop for a second and thank Mr. Glenn the skateboarder wow did Glenn kill it on that intro song or what uh the the new way that I record now I wanted to make sure that Glenn's song was at the start and that it's direct audio so it sounds as good as possible but of course when it's direct audio I sometimes even forget to uh I mean I'll be honest sometimes I just forget to that it's even in there right so Glenn took a lot of time and energy you can hear how different it is if you go listen to Glenn's old theme song and the new one although many of the words are the same he did take out some of the pin turns there because I don't use pin turns as often anymore even though if you'd like to be a pin turn feel free to message me at the pinball nerds podcast Facebook page because especially if you're going coming up to an event I might start doing that again. I might start doing that again. I'm not going to say for sure, but I might start doing that. So, and then believe it or not, Dr. John, okay, who has his own show now, the Aussie Pinball Podcast, I believe, over on the Pinball Network, Dr. John actually helped out quite a bit and he implemented some of the cool stuff that was actually in it. And I'm trying to remember what parts it is as I scroll up here. I'm the worst. I'm sorry, Dr. John. Sorry, Dr. John did the banjo that you hear and the harmonica. So thank you so much for that, Dr. John. I really appreciate that. I had no clue that Glenn the Skateboarder was going to ask for your help with the theme song, but that's so rad. So round of applause to Dr. John. Go over there and listen to the Aussie Pinball Podcast if you haven't. What I really like about the Aussie Pinball Podcast is you're getting a little bit of history, a little bit of culture, a little bit of travel and tourism and of course lots of pinball chat you get a little bit of tourney chat a little bit of maintenance chat a little bit of like you know if you're just newer getting into pinball that kind of stuff and then also you get to hear cool stories about Australians picking up lots of pinball machines and stuff so cool now I want to move forward from Jack Danger but I just want to finish the whole segment with Jack by saying whatever Jack Danger does is not going to be good enough for his biggest critics. His biggest critics are always going to say, oh, well, maybe it's not as good as Keith Elwin. Well, of course it's not. I mean, it's going to be different. I think it's going to be very different. Like, as different as a John Borg and, say, a Keith Elwin machine are on average, that's how different... Jack Danger stuff might even be... I don't think it's going to be John Papaduke level, like, out there, out there. But I think that you're going to see him implement new mechs, have new ideas for scoring, have, I think he's going to want to have some implementation or at least some say on, you know, the artwork packages a little, I would guess, if possible. I just think that everything from artistically to visually to mech-wise to scoring-wise, I think that you're going to see Jack Danger become more of a designer, more similar to a Keith Elwin that kind of gets his hands in all the different aspects of designing, rule and implementation. That would be my guess. Again, I have no inside knowledge on this, but I'm excited to see what Jack does. You guys should be excited, except for, you know what's in danger? Mr. Jack Danger has put your pinball fund in danger. He's put your retirement savings. Some of you are going to be dipping into that 401k, that juicy, well, we don't really have that here in Ontario. Sorry, Ontario, Nova Scotia, Canada. We don't really have that, but you're going to be dipping into your retirement fund and just sucking it all out. because I think, I think that Jack Danger, I'm not going to say he could be the next Keith Ellman, but I think he is either the next Scott Nunesi, or like he's the next big up-and-coming bright star that we're going to see new, innovative, interesting, fun stuff from. And I can't wait to see it, Jack. I can't wait to see it. And yes, after your pin comes out, Mr. Danger, I would love to have you back on. I haven't heard you do a podcast in a very long time, But just remember, I subbed to you for like five years, and I think I've still subbed you from the Pinball Nerds podcast page, but I'm locked out of it because of 2FA, two-factor authentication, so I'm not 100% sure. But also, I contributed in your chat for several years, and I'm your biggest fan, as you know. So whether that be for you as a live streamer or you as a designer, maybe I'm not your biggest fan. Maybe I'm like your fifth biggest fan. I don't know. to go with your fifth favorite pinball podcast right I don know Mr Jack Danger I can wait to see what you do and please come on the show and chat with me after it That would be great I don know if your pin is next but I thinking it could be and I thinking it might be and that's just my little Orbeez prediction, okay? My prognosticator of prognostication is done. Now, let's talk about Kaneda cancelling. So, Mr. Chris Kouros of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast had committed to come on my show. we had actually already set out a day and time that he was going to be coming on the show for and what happened is I actually don't know what happened because about two days before he was supposed to come on the show I went to go on his web page to see if I had missed any live stream in the last couple days because I'm not on Facebook every day probably close to that probably I probably am on every day but I try to not I'm not I don't have push notifications so if I miss a live stream from Chris or something like that. I just go back and usually watch it later if I feel like it. If not, I don't worry about it. But I noticed I hadn't seen or heard anything from him in a couple days, so I wanted to go on there and... Let me have a little sip of my ice coffee here, okay? Oh, I was going to let you hear the ice cubes in there, but they're very small now.
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    Okay, sorry. I wanted to see if he had done a live stream recently and just, you know, before I had him on the show to make sure I was caught up on everything. And I know some people think that maybe I was going to have him on and just grill him really hard because we have had some differences of opinion to say it lightly. We're frenemies. We're friends most of the time, enemies the rest of the time, and somewhere in between typically. But, you know, we're never going to be besties. And I hope we won't ever go back to disliking each other as much as we used to a couple years ago. We're somewhere in between. Okay. So I wanted to have him on. I wanted to have him on for a couple reasons. I wanted to have him on not only to congratulate him on how well he's done with moving over to a pay model. I think he's surprised most of us in the pinball industry, whether by us, I don't mean just media, I just mean just the overall pinball nerds that I thought he might get 100 or 200 paying people. The fact that he's managed to stay at 500 this long, cheers to you, Chris. That's pretty rad. I honestly am one of the people who don't pay anymore to listen to it, even though I'm considering. I was probably going to announce when he came on the show that, okay, I'll subscribe again. Now, I did support Chris last year by purchasing one of the Razzus shirts because I thought they were hilarious. And he actually did do the favor back and support me by purchasing some coffee. I threw in a nice handmade card. I threw him a couple extra holograms and, or sorry, PimbleNerds podcast trading cards. I even threw in, I think it was like a Sing 2. I didn't, I don't know what to give to Killian, but I couldn't fit much in the envelope that we were shipping it in. so I just found a cool little unopened happy meal toy I think it was from sing to and throw it in there for Killian and anyways Chris you haven't messaged me about getting the coffee but I can see by the tracking you received it some time ago and I know Chris is you know kind of taking a little time out so the fact that he hasn't responded to me or even let me know he got it I'm okay with that hopefully maybe back whence you know he's back to doing live streams and stuff like that I will get a thank you or I'll hear from him and you know what I don't blame him at all for doing that but here was my question so when I say Kaneda cancelled I didn't mean do I think he's cancelled because I don't think he has my belief is and I I believe Tim the Lion Man Lee shout out and to him and Rachel can't wait to I know they're doing a little break on Tribe Multiball can't wait to hear you guys back on the show but I think Tim said he saw like a post on the the he saw a post somewhere he couldn't remember where it was just like Chris had said hey I'm taking a break for a while. Cheers. Bye. And I haven't seen anything on pin side about it. I have no clue why he's gone. I wrote to him, like, hopefully everything's okay, buddy. Let me know when you get the coffee or something like that. And I haven't heard back in a couple of weeks and that's okay. Chris is, it's, it's probably better for him when he feels like he needs a little bit of a break for a bit, especially when there's nothing fricking going on pinball to take a break. I've even taken a little bit of a break. I was planning on coming back with Chris two weeks after my last episode, and that was, what, three weeks ago now? And I looked down about five days ago, and I was like, wow, that's so awesome. You know, over 500 pinball nerds taking time and energy to, you know, listen to the show. That's great.
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    But then I also thought, well, geez, there's been nothing up on the Poor Men's Pinball Network on good old PPN. There hasn't been anything up on there for a while. Drew did let me know a couple days ago that he heard the show, He enjoyed the show, and he can't wait to hear what comes next.
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    I would love to have either Drew or possibly Drew and Ian on. I don't know how that would work. I also want to have Jonathan Hall on. I also want to have Joe Chervino from Pimble Degenerates on, maybe to talk about Yagpin and just see what's going on in the degenerate world.
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    Chris, the invitation's still there. If you'd like to come on in the future, certainly let me know, buddy. But you take your time for you as long as you need. I did look on the Patreon page, and he's still posting a couple podcasts per week. So if you are one of the 500 people who pay for the content, you probably know better than me. Maybe he's even mentioned something on there. I don't know. But Chris, it would be great to have you on here. And if you're someone who would actually like to be on the show, or you know someone that you'd like to have on the show, please either private message me or contact me, or even write it on the wall for Pinball Nerds Podcast. as I promised when I switched over to the Poor Man's Pinball Network I would be doing more video content and I recently it's got over 100 views I put up a video on my Facebook page showing the entire tour of Seven's Pinball Rama just outside of Charlottetown and I also recently got to do a tour of Peter St. George's awesome collection of pins and retro skateboards in his garage. And I'm going to be posting that either later on tonight or tomorrow as I continue to post more and more video content as well. And yeah, I'm very, very excited. So make sure you guys go over there. Take a look at that. If you haven't seven has the coolest, he calls them gimmick pinball machines. A lot of them are kind of gimmicky. They have the neat weird, they have at least one cool, interesting, unique mech that you don't see on other pinball machines often. right so and I can promise you if you're in Prince Edward Island it's probably the coolest most fun thing to do other maybe other than maybe you know I don't know going surfing or something at the beach like there's you're you're in Prince Edward Island there's lots it's a beautiful area there's just not of tons of other arcades for competition put it that way so I feel like as per usual in these shows I have got lost but it wouldn't be a pinball nerds podcast if I hadn't got lost so So I'll finish the Kaneda segment by saying, Chris, I like you better when you're being positive. I think it's better for pinball when you're concentrating on the things you love and enjoy about pinball machines as opposed to some shows you can get a little bit negative or a little bit down, right? And I think if you need a break, go take a break. That's great. But when you do come back, I would love to have you on the show. That's all I'll say about that. All right. The last thing I wanted to talk about is Mr. John Greatwitch. and a lot of people said my last pinball podcast was too long at an hour and a half. So I am going to keep this one shorter. I do want to try to keep, especially when I'm by myself, I plan on every couple weeks I'll do one by myself. Every couple weeks I'll do an interview. And I do actually believe that I should try to keep these around 45 minutes max. So I do want to try to wrap this up fairly shortly. But Mr. John Greatwitch had started a, it's not crowdfunding per se, but it seemed like he was kind of trying to crowdfund. Basically, he was crowdfunding, but he wasn't using one of the crowdfunding sites. He was actually using Pinside. And he had said that there was a chance that he could get the license for Trailer Park Boys Pinball Machine. For those of you who don't know, Trailer Park Boys is a freaking hilarious Canadian TV show that was primarily filmed an hour away from me in a trailer park in a town called Turo. Yes, very hard to pronounce, T-R-U-R-O. And even when I'm there, people get mad at me. They're like, it's not T-R-U-R-O, it's Turo. And I'm like, Turo, wouldn't that be with a C-H? Isn't that like something you get in Italy that's like a dessert with like, I don't know. Anyways, it was also recorded in Dartmouth, I believe, which is across from Halifax in a trailer park there. But really cool show. and I actually do believe there is a large enough, crazy enough cult following. I'm part of two different Facebook groups with tens of thousands of people in them that are just crazy. I mean, the same way that people who are like into Stranger Things are crazy into it or people who are like huge fans of Pokemon are just crazy Pokemon followers and they usually, like right now, you know, as being a big Pokemon fan,
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    I am eating more Happy Meals than I should. I'm not going to lie. I still haven't got the one card that everyone wants to get is the Pikachu Hollow. I still haven't got the Pikachu Hollow. I sound so nerdy even just saying this, but I also play Pokemon Go.
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    I also play the Nintendo game, right, the Let's Go and then Let's Go Pikachu. And then I also happen to just gravitate towards, like, Pokemon cards, Pokemon comics. I don't really watch the cartoon. The cartoon is kind of childish for me. I'm sorry. I'm sure it's great but maybe if I watched it when I was like 12 or younger I would have liked it but my sons were so into it I felt like obligated to get into it as well and I think that that's the same way that Trailer Park Boys fans are they're just crazy and I could see a large portion of Trailer Park Boys and then then you've got everyone like me I'm not like a hardcore Trailer Park Boys fan like I think I have one of their comic books but like I have I think I own their DVDs like 10 years ago or something. It's definitely not a dead brand, and I know there was the Trailer Park Boys movie that came out, or there's been a couple movies that came out that have helped revive the brand. There was even a Trailer Park Boys cartoon, and then I even play a Trailer Park Boys Idol app that you can get on the Google Store. Not sure if it's on the iPhone store as well, but it's not a dead brand. I actually think if John were going to just make one pinball machine and then shop it out because any remember anyone can make one pinball machine just for themselves right like of of anything they want and not get charged as long as they don't sell that one pinball machine and what i thought from reading the the thread on pin side that john was going to do is get two or three um he called them whales which everyone thought was hilarious. If you're wanting to look at the pin side thread, it's now called Trailer Trash the Pin GWJ featuring John Norris because John Graywich came out and let everyone know that he's actually got, I don't know how formal the agreement is. I don't know if, I doubt there's like paper signed or contracts, but I guess John Graywich has spoke with John Norris and John Norris has said, yes, you can use one of my other designs I've been working on. Now, when I originally I did tell you guys I was going to add the whale. Here's the whale.
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    I'm the whale. Okay, I'm not a whale. I'm a mini whale. Okay, I'm not a mini whale. I'm a guppy. I'm a little beta fish. Okay, I'm a little beta. Don't bring up a mirror in front of me and put it five feet away. I'll start yelling and screaming at Orby, okay?
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    I was a little drunk and possibly a little bit high. Don't worry. It was all very legal Canadian marijuana. I wasn't doing black tar heroin in the corner or anything again, okay? um it was all just good old Canadian marijuana and I I started reading through John's thread and I thought wow well things he's going to need help with are rules implementation what is maybe the one of only two things I could maybe help a pinball company with and I mean rules implementation like on a very very basic simple scale well John had already said he was just getting like a single level, very simple game.
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    Kind of wanted it to be like a throwback. And when I was talking with John about, told him I want to become a mini whale, I didn't tell him I would give him thousands of dollars. What I said I would do is I would give him, you know, as many hours and time and energy as far as either rules development or helping with call outs.
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    I actually can do, I need to watch the show first, so I'm not going to do it here for you guys, but I can do an OK Bubbles, and I do really good Julian and decent Ricky, okay, and really, really good J-Rock, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, no, I need to be watching the show and get into it, but I mean, you don't want to use me anyways, you'd want to use the real characters, but my idea to help out John was, I will be part of this so long as John is just making one of these pins, and then he's taking to places like Pintastic and other shows, and he's hoping either to win the homebrew, like the American Pinball homebrew thing, and them to make a couple hundred of it, then they would have to go off and get the licensing. Unbeknownst to me, I didn't read between the lines good enough where John was explaining that if he doesn't get the actual pinball license, he's just going to make a generic trailer park pin and make eight to ten of them. I'm sorry, John. I'm off the hook, man. I guess I'm off the hook. because I told John I wanted to be part of it if it was Trailer Park Boys. And unfortunately, if it's going to be just the trailer, trash, whatever,
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    not only do I not think that I would enjoy working on that project so I wouldn't be able to be passionate about it, I actually believe that the theme is mostly all you had at that point Because from what I understand you didn have a design yet which is what I asked you on the podcast Over on Pinball Nerds Podcast like through that thread I did put up a quick 10-minute interview I did at the end of a very long day where I'm pretty sure I had heat stroke or sunstroke or something from playing pinball all day and being out on one of the hottest days of the year. But I put up a quick 15-minuter there. You guys can go over and listen to it if you want. I didn't want John to think I was trolling him because I wasn't, but I also thought, well, what are the chances this guy actually gets a pin made? But I was also very hesitant to tell people to put money into this because I will say this and I will say this and I want you to, if you zoned out, because I've gone off topic a hundred times, zone back in, rate, meow. Now, investing in a startup, especially as uncoordinated, I'm sorry, John, as, as, I'm trying to think of nice ways to say that, like, I don't believe there's a great chance that this will ever work out. So if it was the Trailer Park Boys and John hit the frickin' ball out of the park and he got a home run on the design and he had it built within the six months and he got it to Pintastic and he got it to Pinball Expo, then I think there's actually a pretty good chance, depending on whatever other home pins are there against him, I think there's a good chance that maybe American Pinball goes off and tries to get the license. I don't think it would be a very expensive license. My hope is by me just talking about this, that one, just one of you, whatever, 700 or so pinball nerds that are going to hear this show, encourages. Maybe Trailer Park Boys is honestly just too small of a theme for Stern, but it might be a good one for, say, Spooky or possibly American Pinball, like that size. So I actually hope that what happens is, is one of these companies listen and goes, you know what? They do some market research and they go, wow, this is probably right in our wheelhouse, right about the same size. And, I mean, I'll tell you this, there's a hell of a lot more fans, especially in North America, for Trailer Park Boys than there is for Ultraman. And I would argue that there's got to be close to as many fans. I mean, if Halloween was still relevant from 30, 40 years ago, Trailer Park Boys, which ended in the last decade, is certainly well, well, well more relevant than that. And it's hilarious, right? It's made for comedy. And I like comedy pins. I don't like the ones that take themselves too seriously, right? That's what people love about Godzilla. It's just the comedic effect in it as well. And many other games, right? So I was going to be a whale. I was also going to offer my services to try to attempt to get, of course, again, if you're using it for a one-off, you might be able to contact, I believe it's a guy who lives in New Brunswick. He's a comic book artist, I believe, for the Trailer Park Boys. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that or saw that on some comic book forum somewhere. Anyways, you could probably contact this person and be like, hey, we're trying to do a one-off home pin. Can I pay you a small fee just like for non-commercial use just for at my house? And they would probably say yes. And you could actually probably send them in AutoCAD or Visual Pinball the cabinets and stuff, and they could probably design it for you and implement it just in like, it's not going to be an incredible job. It's not like you're not getting a zombie Yeti package or something like that from it. But could it look as good as, say, the artwork looked on Houdini? I think so. Could it be better than Oktoberfest? Of course, you're not setting the bar very high, right?
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    Is it going to be incredible? Probably not. But I actually do think, and John, I love you, dude. I can't wait to play in the next tournament with you. I do want to buy you a six-pack. but I will say this, investing in John's pin is probably more risky than investing in DeepRoot. Investing in John's pin is probably more risky than buying any cryptocurrency, or especially an NFT that's not Bitcoin and Ethereum at this point. It's just very, very, very risky. I would say that maybe there's a 10% to 20% chance that John actually completes at least one trailer trash pin, and my guess is and I love you John but I'm sorry I think probably it's probably less than a one percent chance that actually these get commercially made never mind even just eight or ten but like get picked up by a company right so and I don't know who would want a trailer trash pin if it had nothing to do with the trailer park boys right like that was John didn't have excuse me John didn't have a layout he didn't as far as I know he didn't have any ideas for unique mechs he didn't know who he was going to use for the art he didn't have anyone for the callouts yet he has no clue who or if anyone I believe he said he's going to do a color DMD instead of doing, or sorry he's going to just do he might even do score reels instead of doing DMD so then you wouldn't even need a programmer for that which is probably smarter or not score reels, sorry we're not doing an EM here but like just a digital you know like whatever with a microwave or a clock right so the main thing he had was the theme and if he could have nailed the licensing for the theme that would have even been scarier because then he would have got apparently he already has two whales at 10k each right or mini whales so had he actually got the licensing that's where it would have got real scary he probably would have got five six seven eight maybe even got up to 10 mini whales altogether then he would have had a hundred grand and now john who again john i love you is very good at like, like, you know, doing a play field swap can probably do it as good as 99% of the other dudes in Canada who do it, or even better, right? But is he the right guy to set up manufacturing? Probably not. John's been very clear about the fact that he's going through personal bankruptcy, which there's nothing wrong, wrong with that. And I'm glad that he's doing that. If that's going to be something that helps him in his life, you know, that's great. But that's probably not the same guy that you want to be the treasurer that has like, you know, a hundred K in a bank account. So John, I would highly, highly recommend that the first thing that you do is find at least one person to work with you that has, you know, more business acclimate maybe than you do as a little more experience approaching larger companies. And certainly someone that has control or has proven they can control the budget of at least a small company previously, because that's a lot of money. Like, you know, I I'm, I'm happy if our tea company gets up to over $1,000 sitting in the bank. That rarely ever happens, right? Because we're always reinvesting. We're always going to new shows, getting into new stores, spending more time and energy on either marketing, advertising, or really just reinvesting in getting better and more stock. Speaking of more stock, before I say goodbye to John and that topic, I do want to remind you that usually with a new product, you have to hear about it a minimum of three times. So I want to let you know, speaking of the inventory, at Angry Alpaca Coffee, if you go over to Angry Alpaca on Facebook, you can like us and you can help us. We're trying to get to 2,000. We've been at a little over 1,000 for a while. We're trying to get to 2,000 Facebook likes. Even if you aren't going to buy some frickin' of the most rad organic coffee on the east coast of Canada, even if you aren't going to buy some awesome custom loose leaf tea, all naturally flavored, at least go over there and like our page to help us out that way.
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    But if you go over there to the page and you click shop now, you'll notice that we're fully stocked up again. Oh my God, I think we have about 20 bags of Bean Me Up, our most popular seller by far. This medium roast is incredible in a percolator, incredible as drip, incredible as run over. Very, very good as espresso. Not quite as good as our light roast at an espresso. But it's just overall good. You could probably just grind this up in your mouth and take a sip at a water fountain, and it would taste better than any coffee you ever got at a Robbins Donuts, a McDonald's, a Tim Hortons, or a Starbucks. Okay, maybe not Starbucks, but darn too close, right? So just remember, the best part of waking up is Orbeez coffee in your cup. Go ahead and sing it. I know you're thinking about singing it. Just I'll be quiet for a second. wherever you are, especially if no one can hear you, go ahead and sing it.
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    Now you've got an earworm. It's in your head. You're going to be singing the best part of Waking Up is Orbeez Coffee in your cup. And eventually you're going to go to Facebook and you're going to order some freaking coffee. But if that wasn't enough, I've got a little lure to help here, to help lure you in. I've got my hot little hand here. You can hear it squeaking around probably. a pack of Indiana Jones the Young Chronicles this is a pro set pack so these are the official trading cards from 1992 this pack of cards has never been opened and I've got 7 more of them so anybody who orders one bag of coffee anytime before these are gone probably be around for a couple weeks at least I'm guessing but anyone who orders a bag of coffee from Angra Apaca you're going to get a free pack of those along with your free pack of Pimble Nerds Podcast rating cards. But if you order two packs of coffee or more, which you should, you're already paying for the stupid shipping. The shipping stays the same price. So you might as well cut the shipping costs in half and order yourself two packs of coffee because you know you're going to want to try at least the East Coast Dark Roast, jokingly darker than Canada's Civil. Hopefully that's why he didn't leave podcasting. Sorry, Chris, I wasn't really making fun of you. It was a joke.
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    But you can either order. I know we have lots of that one. We have a couple of our light roasts on there for espresso lovers, people with the fancy machines that want to make it fancy. But we have tons of the dark roasts right now. Really cool label. Danielle Kittle with the label.
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    But anyone who orders two coffees or more, you're going to get this pack here. Sounds a little different. It actually looks quite a bit different. This is a G.I. Joe. Okay, this is actually put out by Hasbro. Yes, I know what you're thinking. Don't they only make toys? I thought so. But they apparently made trading cards. So you're going to get 12 G.I. Joe trading cards in a pack that's never been opened. And this is even older. This is 1991. So this is a 31-year-old pack of cards, guys. And believe it or not, I have eBay. I know you're going, what are these Indiana Jones cards? Are they useless? What if I rip it open and I go through? Am I going to get, like, any cool cards or anything worth any money? Possibly. So I believe there was just over 100 cards in this G.I. Joe set. and if you get, I'm just looking at eBay right now, the most expensive, if you get a mint, like a really nice card, which they should be nice cards because they've been sealed in these packs for 30 years, but if you get a Snake Eyes, and I'm looking at it right now, it's card number 20 in the set, I have about four of them, or sorry, it's card number 135 in the set, and it comes, if it looks really nice and it's centered, send me a picture if you're not sure, but about one in 10 packs will have either a Snake Eyes or a Cobra Commander. The most expensive Cobra Commander and a PSA 10 on eBay right now is $1,673. Now that's Canadian. That's still like $1,200 US. Look, are you guaranteed to get it out of this pack? Probably not, but it's about a one in 10. So the more coffee you order, the better chance of getting it. I'm not saying to order coffee just for this reason. I just, I have some of these packs sitting around. I've already ripped almost a whole box of them. I got a whole box for like $100 back at the start of the pandemic when I was bored. I've already got three Snake Eyes out of the box. I've already got two Cobra Commanders. Oh, and Cobra Commanders go, the most expensive one is a Gem Mint PSA 10. So yes, you'd have to pay $20, $30, I think it's down to $18 actually at PSA, to get the card graded to have this high value if it comes back at 10, which is pretty rare. But you could get up to, well, the most expensive one right now for a Cobra Commander PSA 10 is $387 Canadian. So really you want the Snake Eyes. I believe that's the very first, it's Snake Eyes' rookie card, I guess. So anyways, I'm going to be throwing out these free packs. I only have four or five packs of the G.I. Joe left. So you want to order sooner rather than later to be guaranteed to grab yourself one of those packs. If you order two, or I will say this, if you order three teas or more, you'll get a pack of the Indiana Jones. And if you order two coffees or more, you'll get a pack of the G.I. Joe. I could just go to eBay and sell these packs for probably eight to ten bucks each, at least the G.I. Joe ones, or more, depending on how high. I've seen them go up to $20 at auction, depending on the time and when the auction finishes, all that sort of stuff, how many more are on the market. So rather than me doing that, I'd rather just give them out to you pinball nerds. You're also going to be getting the hologram, two or three of the Orville Albert, I call them the promo cards because I'm getting the official cards done by a printer, which, knock on wood, is coming soon. I, at the very least, will have it ready for October, November, well before holiday season. So just keep in mind, the official holiday cards are coming. The Pinball Nerds podcast cards are coming. For right now, the best I can do is just give you these bad boys, okay? So other than that, I want you Pinball Nerds to have yourselves a wonderful day. Remember to message me if you have someone you want me to try to interview. I make no promises. I will try to interview anyone you ask. I'm really excited to be back on the airwaves. I'm really excited for, hopefully, Jack Danger's game is next from Stern. It's been so long since we've had New Pinball Day. We all love New Pinball Day. I can't wait for it. You can't wait for it. Until next time, pinball nerds, remember to eat, sleep, and breathe Ashley McIsaac's Devil in the Kitchen.