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Yep. get them on any platform playstation where we say you can't get on nes we tried can't get it in nintendo okay but everywhere else you can get it uh twip this weekend pinball jeff patterson uh thank you again for letting us steal all your great news which we do each and every week didn't read it though no we don't read it we steal it we post it we say hey read this and we get the uh we get the headline and then we just guess we have done that quite a bit the best part is did you read it no did you no i saw a headline it looked pretty cool So this week in pinball, he does have a lot of neat stuff on there. He recaps everything in pinball every single week. He does this way better than we ever could. So check out Chef on this week in pinball. He's been busy, man. He gave away like a PS3. Oh, yeah. PS5, you mean? Where have you been? I got a PS3. No, the poor men are giving away a PS2 this week's episode. We should give away my PS3. I never play that thing. It may not work, but it's our giveaway for the month. So if you want a PS3, hit up Ian. It's already started. pin stadium lights uh you know this mod it's one of the greatest mods in the pinball world pin stadiums he's got all kinds of things uh go to his site now they have special sales for black friday i believe they run till the end of the year um some some super cool uh specials get the hyper beams get the uh neo fusions uh you know get the orion's belt whatever you want tell them we sent you tell them we sent you uh even if you use the black friday code text them yep message them Say, hey, the poor man's with us. We want to know. He wants to know. Poor man's with an S will always get you 10%. Billy Wyjage, you get your pin stadiums yet? Jonathan Hall, how do you like your pin stadiums over on Oktoberfest? See, guys are buying it. They are. They really are. I picked up a couple this year. I think I bought two this year. I'm working on three. Maybe I'll get one for Spider-Man soon. Scott, I'll be contacting you. PinballPrices.com, Doc Finlay. Send us a package. We're going to open up a package from Doc today. That's towards the end of the show. We got a cool one. We actually got some good mail this week, and we will talk about that a little later. So much to do. So little time. Go to pinballprices.com. Check it out for Doc Finlay. We love you, Doc. Check it out if you're buying or selling any games. And last but not least. Are there any other ones? Any other sponsors? There's one. One more. I forgot all about this one. I'm looking at the icons, and it's the poor man's pinball. No, that's the wrong icon. Nobody wants that shit. No. Upper left corner. Check it out, guys. Flip N Out Pinball. You want a brand new game. Flip N Out Pinball. You want a used game? Flip N Out Pinball. You want an Escalera? Flip N Out Pinball. You want another new game? Flip N Out Pinball. You want to just say hi to Nicole? Flip N Out Pinball, definitely. You want to say hi to Zach? Hi, Zach. The Pinball Network. Go to TPN, say hi to Zach. Flip N Out Pinball, they have been doing some great work ever since they... Can you tell we didn't rehearse that at all? No, that was pretty good, though, for not rehearsing. I read your mind. Yeah, Ian and I, we riff off each other so well. That's good, man. And usually we don't do this together, so this is kind of neat. But yeah, Flip N Out Pinball, go to their website, call Zach, text Zach, tell him you want a new game, buy a new game, buy lots of new games. We buy all our games from Flip N Out Pinball. Good customer service, and he answers messages like a fucking champ like three minutes later. He's fast. Appreciate it, Zach. That's why he's always tired, because people just text him incessantly, and he gets back to them all the time. Well, Flip N Out Pinball, should we start this shit? Let's start this shit. It's the only podcast currently on a verbal warning for taking unauthorized time off. You've just been ghosted. It's the sloppiest show on the internet. It might be a runner-up for Twippy. Of course, I'm talking about the Four Man's Pinball Podcast. Wow, thank you. Cheese, we're getting cheese already. Way too early for cheese. Way too early for the cheese slices. Episode 83, my friend. 83. 83. 83 times we have sat in these chairs and rubbed our nipples. Wow. We're starting early today, folks. I don't need to get into the nipple rubbing, but thank you. 83 times. That's amazing. That's good. It's very cool. It's a cool milestone. Not really, but it's a milestone. Hold on. Let me adjust some settings here. You adjust the settings. We are the sloppiest show on the internet. Really? Today. we have a we actually have a pretty jam-packed episode i'm actually really excited about today um so in honor of twippy season you know it's kind of kicked off and they're doing the drop down pre-voting menu stuff which by the way go to this week in pinball and vote for the poor man's pinball podcast but that's not why we're here today uh we're going to explore what all the other podcasts and content creators have been up to the last few weeks because um you know games are getting out from manufacturers and there's there's some cool stuff going on in the pinball world but uh in the podcast world there has been a lot of really neat things going on some some good some bad some some drama some not drama we just sit back we watch we drink while we do it and we love it so we're gonna kind of kind of touch on six or seven of the podcasts that we like to listen to and we will uh inform you guys on what's going on and i'm pretty excited about that we are going to be giving away a stern backpack today compliments of flipping out pinball giving us stuff are we asking for it no probably probably messaged zach a few times about it marketing 101 you say no we didn't we're just so cool we're getting stern backpacks we're giving them to our i wish i had it here to model yeah but i don't have it yeah so pretend i'm wearing a cool stern backpack and we're strutting down the runway this is my strut that's what happens which is bits when we struck so thank you nicole and zach flipping out pinball we will be giving that away later we don't even know what the giveaway is yet we'll make that up oh no i know i think i got a good i got a good okay and we're gonna give it away to people in chat tonight oh we're not gonna throw the email word out there no this is gonna happen to one lucky chatter this is a live giveaway is this a pinball first no we've done this a couple times oh it's not even a poor man's first didn't i mail out like 40 fucking shirts let me finish my spiel here with my notes that i spent so much time on someone doesn't listen to his show apparently didn't do any research for my own show god damn it uh we're gonna eat some beavers we'll talk about that later we are gonna thanks we're shifting up our uh our schedule here a little bit we are going to be inducting a tribe member early in the show early because normally we do it late and we forget stuff and we're kind of drunk and it just gets sloppy yeah i can barely read the slide we have a very special inductee today so we are going to do that induction a little earlier uh we have cast the genius too yes another podcast genius everyone loves those uh tim lee and martin listener number 15 the three of those guys collaborate and i don't know how they do it they live so far apart How do they do it? This one also had someone else. Check her email. Oh, shit. We'll do that in a little bit. All right, I'll do it right now. You do that. I'm on a roll here, man. Sorry. Well, you're screwing everything up. Yes, you're on a roll. I got notes. That's my roll. Mailbag. We have some good viewer mail today, so some email submissions, some very cool stuff that some of our listeners are doing and I want to share with you guys. And we open packages. We already said we got one from Doc Finlay. We are going to open that. We have no idea what it is. We are excited. So while Ian is checking that, I will start us off with, what are you drinking today, sir? Hold on. He's holding on. Hold on. So our fourth person. So it's Glenn Waechter, Martin, listener 15, Tim Lee, and Drumroll, please. Why don't we just ask them in chat? They can tell us. He probably already fucking did it. Hold on. Oh, Jesse J., it's true. I love Drew. Jesse J., we have that common love for one another. Oh, here it is. Sorry. John, Dr. John helped. Dr. John. Thank you. Sorry about that. How could we forget Dr. John? Dr. John did it. Well, I read it, and then, sorry, a lot of things moving on, a lot of things going, a lot of moving pieces here, but we'll get into the rhythm. Orby just subscribed to us. Thanks, brother. We're a little rusty, a little rusty. We took a week off. I was off because I had to work. That was the first Monday night I've had to work in like two years, and it was awful. So when everyone's messaging like, oh, have a good night off. You guys deserved it. I was like, fuck you guys. I'm at work. This is terrible. I watched Toy Story. No, what did I watch? I watched Cars 3. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the well wishes, guys, but I was literally working until almost midnight, and it was just awful. Dalton, new listener. Dalton, thank you. Oh, cool. New listener. Ooh, we need a new listener alert. That was it. Dee-dee-dee-dee-dee. That was the bits. That was the bits coming. So what are you drinking, Drew? I'm drinking poor man's pinball whiskey and some ginger beer. Ginger beer. Love me some ginger beer. I got a Jamo ginger tonight, so I got my slain Irish whiskey. See that there? And some ginger ale. Oh, that's it. Just delicious little stuff there. What was that? That's my Irish Popeye. Is that yours? I'm just excited. I'm so happy to be here. I am, too. I really am. I'm like overly hyper. It's probably going to be obnoxious. That's okay. That's what happens. Well, enjoy. That's what happens. When we get messages on our phone, it's usually, hey, you guys are screaming into the mics, or hey, tell Drew to put his nipples away. So, all right. So, Drew, what should we do? We should probably get into our personal pinball news. We should. All right, Drew, what is new with you, brother? Because I don't really have anything. I was going to bore you guys with more Meteor, but I'm so sick of talking about it, so I'm not. Sick of hearing about it. I know. Everyone is. But I contacted Zach. You guys know that Stern is... Emily and Dr. John, thank you for the puppies and bits. Stern's fixing my turtles, and they're diagnosing it, and it's been gone for, what, two months, a month and a half? I don't know. I'm missing turtles. Turtle power. Yeah. I want my turtles back. I'm sorry. It's not yours anymore. But I have Avengers, so that's okay. Exactly. Courtesy of Flip N Out Pinball. Thank you, Zach. Yeah, thank you. No, Avengers is great. I'm having fun with that, too, but I want to play some Turtles. All right. Because one of our tribe members, Matt Michaels, he recently bought a Turtles from Flip N Out Pinball. And I've got to tell this story. He fucked with me today. He sent me a text message, and he said, who do I contact for Stern defects? And I was like, oh, fuck. He just got his game. He unboxed it, like, I don't know, last week or something. And I'm like, oh, fuck. He's got some issue, right? And so I'm driving, and I call him, and he's like, oh, I'm going to send you a picture. He's like, that's the best way I can describe it. I'm like, okay, fine. He sends me his picture. I open it up, and it's a picture of the side rail, the armor, and it looks fine. And I was just about to send back, like, hey, what is this about? And he goes, I'm just fucking with you. Everything's great. I'm like, why would you do that? Why? So we had a good laugh about it, but yeah, he was fucking with me. That is the worst story I've heard on the poor man's pinball pocket. That cannot be the worst story you've heard. That is impossible. That is impossible. All right. Anything else going on? They want to know if the meteor works. Oh, yeah, it works. I got a couple switches I need to either replace or adjust, but now it's working. I'm still waiting on the powder coat. The guy was, he's good, but he's behind like four weeks. so it's probably gonna be another week tim lee drew oh for two oh tim lee do we need to talk about your glow-in-the-dark rubbers um get the hook yeah tony scoots um yeah so no no everything's working yeah meteors meteors up and running like i said just needs he's a powder coat and a coin door so yeah we're getting there but no i'm excited so and just playing more spider-man but nothing nothing fantastic going on the pinball landscape of drew mostly because i've been working so so anyway last week so this is what i've been doing for pinball uh yesterday i released all of our audio from last week and say all of our audio well a lot of you guys don't stay until the very end of the show because last week or not i should say the last episode we did a fucking friday right after our regular show so we did post that audio uh yesterday so if you guys are interested in seeing what you missed and i don't remember what we were talking about but i know it was i could not put a description on it no i think we talked about the mandalorian uh yeah i believe so it uh as most things fuck it friday went went pretty far one way or the other whichever way is not good it only happens when we're drunk so yeah it was but it was it was epic we had a lot of fun i do know that it was yeah two weeks ago now yeah two weeks so all that audio got dropped yesterday All right, so what else do we have, Drew? That's it, right? That's what we're doing today. Tribe member? Yeah, we're going to go dive right into the tribe member while we're still sort of sober. While we're all here. So this particular tribe member. So hold on. Let's back up. Yep. That's our rewind sound. We have sounds for everything else but that. We do that ourselves. All right. thank you sir may i have another poor man's pinball tribe thank you sir may i have another poor man's pinball tribe thank you sir may i have another poor man's pinball tribe wait no yeah that's hard today jesus what the hell happened there whoa someone's levels are a little wild um all right so tribe list i didn't update this so So number 36 was Jeremy Schmitz. Jeremy Schmitz, number 36. Sorry, you'll be up there. We will. We'll get you in there. We'll put it up. But how do you become a tribe member, Drew? Well, we have five pillars of excellence, as we call them. Number one, like us on Facebook. Real super simple, right? Most of you guys are here. You guys do it. Like us on Facebook. Number two. You want me to say? See, we're riffing. All right, emails. Send us an email. communicate with us even throw some some love and chat any communication any communication yeah yeah now now we can add yeah just just come to chat hang out with us uh number three is help us grow our back up help us grow our podcast and what does that mean whatever the fuck you think i mean tell your mother tell your grandmother tell your friend tell us know that you are pushing the poor man spinball podcast maybe vote for us on the twippies huh how about that drop down menu there you let us know that you voted for us we didn't talk about that but twippy season is a month upon us brother All right, so what else we got? It's been a long time. What's number four? Four is top secret. But then again, it tumbled. Oh, wait, we didn't. You know, it was top secret. I'm struggling. Hold on, let me take a cocktail. We normally edit this out. It actually sounded more polished on our podcast. No, it didn't. All right, so no, it didn't. So the fourth pillar was no media members. Since day one, I've told Ian we should write this down, and since day one, we have not. And you know what's funny about that? Our very first tribe member is a media member. So, you know, it didn't really work out that well. The fourth pillar was. We don't follow rules. The pillar was fucked to begin with. All right. So that one, it's got some band-aids. And spoiler alert, we're throwing that out again today. Yeah. If, you know, if Kaneda comes and he says, why aren't I in the tribe? I can point to the fourth pillar. That's why it's there. Fifth pillar, top secret. That one, we hold close to the chest. Totally do. All right, so let's get into our new tribe member. Should we do a drum roll? Yeah, I want to set this up a little bit. All right, set it up, baby. So we've been communicating with this person for several months now, and she, there's hint number one, she has been a staunch supporter of our show. She's fun, she's wacky, she's crazy. She does her own podcast now, and she is Australian, so if you guys haven't figured that out yet. So in honor of that, she taught me some – I was listening to her most recent podcast from this past week, and she taught me some Australian. So I'm going to read the line to Ian and see if he can translate what it means in English. Translating some Australian. Okay, you ready? I'm really good at this. You ready? So here we go. Suck it to me, baby. I went to the bolo and had some shooies with my mates. Oh, she went to the bar and had some drinks with her friends. You're close. Oh, bullshit. You're close. I'm surprised. How'd you know what shooies was? That was the part that stumped me. Uh-oh. Why can't I just put it all together? Oh, okay. All right. Fair enough. The contact. So what was it? Well, a bolo, to my understanding, is like a bowling alley. Oh, okay. Bowling alley. So, and Shoeys are nicknames for schooners. Oh, okay. And you know what schooners are, I'm assuming, right? Boats? Is there something wrong with the levels here? What's going on? I don't know. It's all over the place. Okay. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Is that better? Okay. No, a schooner is like the smaller glass. It's what they drink beer out of in Australia. All right. So there you go. Very nice. And they say it like that. All right. All right. Okay. So anyways, they went to the bowling alley and had some beer. Mm-hmm. With her friends. Everyone knows her mates are. It's Jessie J. Welcome, Jessie J. Jessie J. Co-host of the Jessie J's Pinball Adventures podcast with some other dude. Started playing pinball when she was four. Adam's Family was the first game she played. Again, part of my whole thing. Adam's Family is my theory. All right. Or it's Black Knight. Or there's usually one. Oh, Pinbot. Pinbot. Yeah, Pinbot's in there. Beat two wizard modes in her life. medieval madness and shadow she claims she is not naturally talented but just very persistent took over a thousand games to get to that uh that shadow uh wizard mode i would argue the talent portion because i've played a lot of pinball and i've gotten to exactly this many wizard that's not true he can't see last action hero i got to wizard mode oh so one one yeah we got to a wizard mode glass on glass off doesn't matter yeah yeah details shadow is her true love but also loves demo man she is a ramp combo addict well i love it aren't we all all right well jesse j congrats jesse j you're in chat welcome to chat how does it feel to be one of us one of us one of us bits for j uh bits for jesse very nice very nice is there a song uh welcome to the podcast jesse j jesse j this is your day to that's all we got that's the end of that song and we're done singing this song to you jesse j here's to the shoeys well congrats so jesse j what does that mean jesse j that means you get inducted into our secret uh facebook tribe group um what okay check your messages okay so so anyways yeah we're really excited to have her she is a brilliant part of the pinball community and uh once again avid supporter of this show so we are very happy to have her on board and she's already sending us raunchy messages all right i'm gonna share a photo i'm gonna share a photo that jcj's just sent me drew you can't look okay all right and we're gonna edit on to the podcast so we can all see it, okay? Oh, this is going to be something. Every time we do this, it ends up being good because the last time we did this was, I think, with the E.M.E. War. The Great E.M.E. War. We're talking about it, and Ian's just throwing pictures up there of E.M.E.s with guns and missiles. How can I do this? While he's doing that, I'm going to participate with chat here a little bit. Okay. So Jesse J says, my gift to the tribe. It's a good gift. Chris Chandler, I'm so looking forward to the tribe contributions from JJ. Yes, we all are because she's – oh, and the inside Amy joke of the day, Tim Lee, you have now been replaced by Jesse J. Chris Chandler says, emu porn? No, I don't think she sent us emu porn. And I'm back to, like, not being able to say it. We're not getting into that again. Does the pic need a background explanation? I don't know. I'm excited to see what it is. Sorry, guys. Almost done. Almost done. Tim Lee is getting kicked out before me. All right. Here we go. Everybody, enjoy the show. Oh, Jonathan Ha. Here we go. Okay, hang on. It's coming up. I think. Son of a bitch. What'd you do? Or not do? I don't know. I don't know. Jonathan Hall says, my internet provider blocked me from emu porn. What? That's a shame. Loser. Did you get Drew to pose for this? I don't know what it is, so I can't say that yet. Uh-oh. What is it? Oh, my God. Come have a flip of the python. Zingy bingy. Oh, my God. That is too good. For you guys who don't know, zingy bingy is this crazy game from, what is that, the 70s or 80s? Was it? No. It was something in, wasn't it, closer to the 90s? It's like an adult. It was the one time he tried to design something basically on his own. Yeah. It was zingy bingy. It was basically rated X. It was just titties for pop bumpers and other parts of the body. So look at that Python angel just killing it. Is that a typical day in Australia, Jesse J.? She's telling us something there. I think we could all just dissect that one for a while. So are you saying, Jesse, next Halloween you want me to dress up like that guy? Everybody wants you to dress up like Python. So for those of you that are just listening to the audio version, I'm going to put this on our Facebook page. This is the best quote of the day. Jonathan Hall says, that's quite the flipper gap. That is quite the flipper gap. Oh, my God. Jesus. What are we doing with our lives? If you look closely, Jesse James photoshopped on the back glass. Oh, that's perfect. Wait, what? I heard Jesse James pinball, didn't I? Oh, that is. You know what, guys? Yeah, that's going on the Facebook page. We just going to blow that up and make a poster of it because that is Come have a flip of the Python Oh boy oh boy Zingy Bingy wins the day once again So, yeah, no. Well done, people. Well done. That's all I can say. All right, so you're going to be inducted into the Seeker Tribe group. I want to nudge that ball. And, yeah, we all look forward to the silliness that is Jesse J. Ryan C., can you zoom in more and enhance? Sure I can. Here you go, Ryan C. I'm enhancing. No. Nobody wants that. Oh, okay. But Ryan C. asked. Zoom in more and enhance. Enhance, enhance, enhance. Oh, yeah. What movie was that from? I don't know. Yeah, that was definitely from some movie. This is for you, Ryan C. This is for you, my friend. Nobody else wants to see this shit. What happened? enhance the flipper gap uh holy that is that is too much make it stop chris chandler you've seen worse make it stop every morning in the shower chris chandler every morning all right so what else do we have you know let's just complete the the triumph we have a podcast of genius we do we got to work on our segues this is a good segue this all ties in together zingy bingy diapers by the way real podcast he doesn't really know okay here we go he doesn't read the emails either there we go poor man's tribe presents podcasts of genius this year you turn your bogan date into a pinball podcast sidekick it's the jesse j's pinball adventures you weren't intimidated by being a noob in the hobby So you started an underground dating podcast disguised as a killer punk-ass pinball adventure. So many bums. Ryan C. throwing another wobbly? Just get out your boxing gloves and make him shut his pie hole. Let's get ready to rumble. Ryan C.'s no match for Tim Sexton, are they? Boxing, chess, karaoke, late nights with Alec Baldwin. But being the newest tribe member would be your greatest adventure. We don't care that they've been stay-at-home adventures. So grab that Ryan C and raise a glass of Fosters, Jesse. Skull that piss until you're chonder, because you've won over the hearts of the poor men down under. Mate. Poor Man's Tribe presents Podcasts of Genius. Podcasts of Genius. This year you turned your bogan date into a pinball podcast sidekick It's the Jesse J's Pinball Adventures You weren't intimidated by being a noob in the hobby So you started an underground dating podcast disguised as a killer punk-ass pinball adventure So many bums Ryan C throwing another wobbly? Just get out your boxing gloves and make him shut his piehole Let's get ready to rumble Ryan C's no match for Tim Sexton or Ray Day boxing, chess, karaoke, late nights with Alec Baldwin. But being the newest tribe member would be your greatest adventure. We don't care that they've been staying home adventures. So grab that Ryan C and raise a glass of Fosters, Jesse. Skull that piss until you chunder, because you've won over the hearts of the poor men down under. Oh, my God. That's fucking brilliant. Glenn, I appreciate that. Dr. John obviously came in there with some of the slang. Yes. Yeah. Glenn, did you look that up in a dictionary? Yeah, that was definitely Dr. John helping out. Chonder? Is that like puking? I don't know. Drew chondered in a urinal while he was talking to Zach. Trying to shake his hand while he's chondering. Oh, my God. Jesse J., you are, once again, you're going to make a fantastic addition. And, yeah, guys, that was over the top. Awesome. We got nothing else to do now. No. Anything we say now will just be like. We fucking ruined it. Here's what you're going to hear for the rest of the show, Chopped Liver. Fucking got nothing. Shit. Nope. We're going to have a moment of silence for like an hour. Can't beat that. No. Can't beat any of that. That was awesome. This is why this podcast is what it is. It's not us. Well, but that brings up a point, though. Yeah. I wish we could have like something flash across the screen now that said like Twippy nomination we are all about the community right we are this proves it right there yes right because we got people they're like I want to help out I want to do this this show is so epic we want to help I'm pretty sure they're like you guys need help marketing marketing oh I mean totally yeah for sure but yeah you're right it's that you guys fucking suck so i help you out i saw this guy's show and uh they really need some help they need some help i'm gonna i'm gonna send them something maybe i know how to actually use audacity so i'll help them out i'll help them out oh man so yeah you know we love you thank you so much uh for the bitties appreciate it and uh jesse jay still recovering from her tears of laughter i'm glad we could uh entertain as always jesse jay welcome welcome lady we will have many more interactions i am and we'll try to send that audio clip over to you jesse so you can play it on your podcast if you'd like so there you go all right so what do we got now oh man i don't know how we right i don't know how we follow that but i go into our podcast roundup we talk about podcasts let's just talk so uh real quick some some housekeeping podcast roundup is brought to you by twip this week in pinball go there for all your news this isn't really news but this is the podcast roundup we haven't done one of these in quite some time we used to do these almost weekly for a while we even tried it we tried it about it because we didn't have anything else to talk about we didn't know pinball nope we knew podcasts though yep we we listened to a lot of podcasts and we're like what do they always say our opinions were always ryan c's and marty's opinions they always say what you know write what you know and we're like yeah we know podcasts yeah we know We listen. We can rip off Head to Head. We can rip off Twip. And we can rip off Canada. And we stole so much stuff. Yes. Still are. No. Now they're stealing from us. Yes. It has changed. All right. So let's get into it. What do you want to get into first? Okay. So there has been a ton, a ton, a ton going on in the podcast world the last couple weeks. It's been kind of dramatic. Yes. Would you say drama would be the right word? Yes. But the first one is a happy story. Happy. Happy. Happy. So Loser Kid Pinball Podcast, they are celebrating their 50th episode. I don't think it's out yet. They just did number 49 with Keith Elwin for the third time. Way to go, guys. Good interview, by the way. So they asked people in the pinball community to, hey, if you want to send an audio submission or video, whatever. And Ian and I were going to do it. And for whatever reason, it just didn't happen. Big surprise, right? so so i thought i thought it would be great if unedited unfiltered we just ad Bob Libbe a little bit of what it would have sounded like had we sent that clip okay okay so so josh fair josh and i didn't know this but we're gonna do this so josh and scott i hope you guys are listening uh so this would would be the submission for your 50th episode all right okay ready i'm ready ready okay hey drew guess what what i heard that the loser kids had a 50th episode could you could you just can you believe that no they're from utah and that's what it would be something like that no congratulations yeah no guys 50 50 years 50 years of podcasting Three years of podcasting. It was amazing. No, I've listened to a large majority of your library, and most of it is very good. The rest. No, you guys do a great job. You guys have some of the best interviews in pinball, hands down, period, the end. Shit, you got the goat on three times. We've asked him 30 times. He's responded to us zero times. To be fair, we never asked him. No, I have. Oh, you have? Yes. I didn't know that. I didn't tell you because I was embarrassed. That's all right. The list of people I've asked, very, very long. Very long, really? The list of people that have come on, very, very short. Oh, that's not true. Come on, dude. I just stopped asking people, but we were getting everybody I asked, everybody I asked who came on. You must be asking weird. hey you want to rub my nipples while i talk about well i wear the Python Anghelo's outfit Python Anghelo yep that's what i said Python Anghelo emu i wear i wear the outfit and i go up to keith and i take off my hat and i say hey keith and i said this is gold will you come on our show and he goes who the fuck are you yeah and i'm like I'm Drew from the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. And he goes, what? You mean that show that Ryan C. was talking about? And I said, yeah. He goes, yeah, Ryan C. didn't like it. And I was like, oh, OK. And then he's like, see you later. That was it. Cool story. You're 0 for 3. Congratulations, buddy. So anyways, 50 episodes. Yeah, it's awesome, guys. Really is. 50 episodes. Scott and Josh, great job. They started around the same time we did. Yeah. Yeah, they do. They're not on a strict of a schedule. No, no. Yeah, like once a month there's just something really great coming out. It's always fun kind of reaching out to those guys. They're super cool. Oh, yeah. Very, very cool. They're super friendly to us. And eventually our paths will cross and we'll probably do some sort of episodes together. Yeah, we've talked plenty about that. Utah, Wisconsin, together again. Me, Drew, our wives, Josh. My wife. The other guy and their 12 wives. my i see what you did there mormon jokes my wife sorry everybody wants to take over this podcast whose wife with laura oh so so my wife told me she wanted to take over one just you know just one week and i was like oh that's great we can have you on she goes no we don't want you guys there that'd be awesome and i was like that would be epic how about if we sat in the back and just drank that's actually a great you know what we're gonna make this happen because she was serious about it i was like i'm like i'm sure laura would be down for it so yeah okay cool that's happening i think everyone would that would be very cool about oh yeah no that would be awesome so what else we got uh silver ball chronicles which you know they do some cool stuff they they basically i gotta get caught up i i think i haven't listened to the last yeah so so if for you guys who aren't familiar they're part of the pinball network and they they put out a show i think like once a month or once every other two or three weeks, whatever it is. But they chronicle different eras of games or people that have been in pinball. Like they did a Steve Ritchie one, which was awesome. Extremely cool. Yeah, that one was awesome. But anyways, recently, so then they shifted to John Borg. Okay. And they did the whole John Borg working at Data East and his whole history with Stern. Very cool. Like he's – I had no idea how many games that guy had his hands on. All of them. Yeah, from Laser War, Last Action Hero, like the whole Data East catalog. Wow. And, yeah, it's pretty awesome. So I might be wrong with some of that, but he did a lot of the Data East, and then, you know, obviously his current Stern everyone knows about. But, yeah, it was very well done. All those shows usually are. So David Dennis and Ron Hallett, I believe. They do a great job because it's entertaining and informative. Because they rib each other not quite as hard as Ian and I rib each other, but nobody really does. Nobody ribs Ian like I do. Feels good. So anyways, yeah, very cool. So not much more to say about that. Just check it out. It was a very solid episode. Next. Next. Pinball show. You know, TPN's flagship show with Zach and Dennis. Yes. But recently, Dennis had decided that with his other Eclectics Gamer podcast, he couldn't commit to doing it every week. That's tough. Yeah, it is. Well, because he does that one, and then he does this, and then he's a gamer. I mean, he does all this stuff. It'd be too hard. I couldn't do it. So anyways, they came up with this thing. We can barely do this. Yes. We struggle to get it out. Every time. Because we do a lot of prep work. And I say that with a straight face. It's classic. So anyways, he decided that he was going to do every other week, which everyone was cool with. And Zach decided he needed a co-host for the alternate weeks. So his first co-host was none other than Greg Bone. Perfect. So yeah, very cool to hear Greg Bone back in the saddle again. Absolutely. He hasn't been on a podcast in quite some time. Yeah. So it was very cool. I think the last time he was on a podcast was when Kaneda interviewed him. Do you remember that one? That was pretty good. ribbed for his pleasure he beat me to it yeah yeah yeah so anyways very cool with a shaved face no very cool to have uh greg bone back in the back in the mic saddle um drew and ian host the twippies makes sense that makes so much sense that makes more sense than anyone can imagine i'm up for the challenge i think we would do great oh we would we could play it straight too Kind of. We would still throw in our charm. And the award for best game goes to... And the award for best butthole. I mean, game of the year. Crickets. We would have a list of like a hundred words we couldn't say. The 30 tribe members laugh. The last 5,000 hate it. So, you know, it is what it is. We would have a hundred words we couldn't say. And butthole would be number one. And then it would be above cunt. Well... You know, the funny thing. Oh, I see what I did there. The thing about TWIP is we don't read their shit, so you think we'd read their awards? No. I love you, TWIP. I'm just joking. Well, no, because they'd expect show prep. Yeah, that's what our middle name is. I'll leave it to the experts, Emoto and Carrie. Yeah, Carrie Hardy. Orbeez Top 3, which was a mainstay on the Pinball Network. I listened. sadly yeah go ahead why don't you listen to orby's orby's uh so orby is part of the pinball he is the pinball nerds podcast one of my favorite podcasts because i love the tangents that man goes on i think he is again without a doubt pound for pound the most charming guy in pinball media like he oh yeah comes across so genuine he is hilarious we love him to death i love him to death and when he told me he was going to the pinball network i'll admit it you know he didn't say it us specifically or me specifically i wasn't exactly happy that he went over there because i wasn't mad don't get me wrong but i just heard drama i'm not doing this drama thing i'm not telling people not to go to the pinball network i just said i didn't want the pinball nerds podcast to go away because i really really enjoyed um um him just that that format yeah that format it's more of a blog than anything right he's he's often said that so i don't mind that he went i just didn't want him to change up what he was already doing because i knew that show was going to catch on because he was bummed you know he was getting 50 to 100 listeners at the time so going to the pinball network it was a chance for him to get more of a listener uh you know more of a listenership which was great um which he did i believe yeah yeah no no so he just had his recent podcast that just he just talked about the decision to to kind of leave tpn and he did throw our names out there uh from our last episode when we talked about we had the podcast of genius and we talked about how genuine he is and how great he is and then he took it kind of to the to this other level where he said that we kind of because he's so genuine he can't be that guy that's gonna have that you know learn audacity and edit his own stuff he's never gonna be that guy and he would feel kind of a, I don't know, fake, lack of a better term, whatever. But I was a little shocked that we had something to do with that because... What was his reasoning? Well, like I said, he just didn't want to be that polished because the top three with Orby, you know, they were doing all of his editing for him. Oh. Well, they were strongly hinting that he should start to learn Audacity and, you know, and start to do his own editing and upload it and stuff, and he had no desire to do any of that. so that's fair which i don't blame the guy dude audacity is good but man editing sucks ass and if he doesn't one episode i did with tim lee it took me like a day to figure out everything it's not easy no it's even when i had it figured out it was still a three-hour editing process franchi takes you know a couple days to do it right you know yeah yeah after they're done recording so anyway i don't i don't blame him at all and i think it's a good move for orbital elbert because i think uh everyone knows who he is sure sure if you don't check out the pinball nerds podcast he's one of my favorites he's also a tribe member also a tribe member and we love him to death so yeah tony scoots thank you for the bits orby is awesome yeah he's one of our faves so good luck orby i hope to hear more pinball nerds podcast i want him to take all that energy and just put it towards the podcast underground underground pinball you guys are doing it right all right you mean sloppy as ever whoa okay so we love you we love you okay what do we got cool uh podcast super awesome pinball show or should i do like saps super awesome pinball but frenchy would just edit that all in somehow instead of us just it would be like 18 movie clips for that one thing yep fucking impressive it is it is uh so they they have thanks for the bitties thanks guys uh they had the gary stern from stern pinball as opposed to a fake gary stern as opposed to we'll get to that all right all right uh jumping ahead uh the the one and only gary not the one and only i guess the one and only stern yes uh so they had gary stern on and it was probably one of the best interviews of the year no i'm gonna say it was the best interview of the year i can't think i've listened to some dwight sullivan stuff this year that was great um some loser kid stuff sorry you guys didn't make the cut you guys were second and third place with keith alwyn and some and some people but this interview because gary stern first of all he asked them if he could drink on air and they're like yeah we're drinking and he's like oh awesome because i just i just made coffee i'm gonna go get some vodka and then gary stern goes and pours vodka and then he proceeds to have like three or four and he was fun he was charming they asked him like you know legitimate uh they asked him some hardball questions too it wasn't like they were just like oh you know what's it like to run stern i mean they asked him that they did ask they did ask him that but that wasn't like you know all those softball questions right you know they they were asking him about you know the bill of materials and toys and you know how come how How come toppers cost so much goddamn money? And Gary Stern was very forthcoming with a lot of it. So if you haven't checked it out, it's a great episode. And he gets overshadowed, I'm sorry, but Ed Van Der Veen was on before that. So I don't know why they did that because Ed Van Der Veen was telling some good stuff about TPF and stuff. But then all of a sudden he leaves and Gary Stern comes on. And it was great. I'll have to listen to that. Sorry, Frenchy. I've been really busy. I don't usually tell people, like, you have to listen to this or you absolutely should. This is one. If you don't listen to a lot of podcasts or you don't listen to Saps, who wouldn't? Listen to it. Listen to this one episode. You'll love it. Or if you're going to listen to one episode, you listen to the one we just did with them a few episodes back. That, too. That was a really fun one. It was. We did have a lot of fun, and it was a good episode. All right. Anyway. So there you go. What do we got? Now we come to some of the controversy. Ah, I see what you did there. So before I get to the controversy, Chris Koularis, better known as Kaneda, too cool for school as always. K-Man. K-Man. K-Mart. Him and Brenda and Bubba are pregnant in no particular order. So seriously, congratulations. Chris and Brenda are expecting their first baby in February. supposedly he said today he's trying to convince brenda to name him kaneda and he's losing that battle yeah everyone would lose that yes yes every man listening to this right now would lose that battle yeah okay yeah so anyways congratulations guys but uh last week he had a gary stern interview he found a guy actually really liked that interview that's the one i listened to it was very it was very it was very entertaining so what what he did for you guys i don't know why I know some of you guys don't like him. I know some of you guys love him. Some of you guys listen. Some of you guys don't. But what he did, he found a Gary Stern down in Florida. Of all places. And what was amazing, so this guy seemed to be a pretty well-to-do guy in Florida. He said he owned several houses and whatever. He was older. I think he was in his 60s or something. And he played pinball as a kid, but he definitely wasn't an enthusiast. He didn't have pinball machines in his house. So Chris was asking him all these questions about, you know, what do you think a new pinball machine would cost? And it was really interesting to get a unique perspective from somebody who's not involved in this hobby like we are. You know, this was literally somebody off the street. But it was very cool, and it was actually very entertaining. He kept it short. It was only like 20 minutes. So I recommend listening to that. But then, after all that, he made some comments about the Pinball Brothers bringing back Alien. Yep. And he was upset because of a comment they made about saying that they weren't the same as Highway Pinball, so they didn't have any legal right or legal obligation to make those people whole, right? And he was upset, and he was fired up about it. And I don't know why or what happened. Nobody really does, except for him, obviously. then all of a sudden all of his stuff disappeared again. Yeah. Facebook, all of his episodes. He went dark. Yeah, he went dark, for lack of a better word. He went dark. And then, of course, the Pinside Threads started up, and two days later he was back. Yeah, I was talking to Chris. I'm not going to go into details because I told him I wouldn't, but his livelihood got threatened again. That's all I'll say. I figured it was something like that because there wasn't a good reason otherwise. He got threatened. there's more to it but i can't get into it at all i won't but it's pretty crazy can i just say they get so angry thinking about yeah just like the last time this happened i will say this again i don't care if you hate the guy you don't do that like you can you can you can say i hate you you're a piece of shit but you don't you just don't because you just don't tune in how about that yeah yeah how about that how about just like everything in life most of it could be solved if Yeah, you just don't say anything. Just walk away. It's amazing, huh? Just walk away. So I don't think Kanae is going anywhere. No I sure he not He back already He already back That lasted a week The first one lasted about a month This one a week No this is like two days three days You right It was very short You're right. So, no, I'm glad to have him back. Yeah. But, you know, this is what happened. This is what we know. This is the – I don't air people's dirty laundry. This is what happened publicly. So this is all, like, out there. Right. I'm not sharing any sensitive information. No, no, no. But, yeah, I just think that the fact that someone would go after your livelihood over a podcast is disgusting. It's crazy. Wow, disgusting. But, yeah, it's just nuts. I mean, I don't know. So, anyways, Canadian's back again. He works in one of those places where a threat is enough to just get rid of an employee, whereas Drew and I, eh, not so much. No. They would probably kind of laugh and go, is this real? I was like, I don't know. Yeah. They're like, do you really do a pinball podcast? you're like i don't know well out of everything that's the most embarrassing thing yes yes i do a pinball podcast yes yes i do you have how many lists can we just go into the threat part i'd rather do the threat part not the pinball podcast part anyway just kidding i love you guys so then last and not least our newest uh tribe member jesse j's pinball adventures yes uh she is killing it she got rid of ryan c good choice no she didn't really get rid of him oh it's just that episode right uh yeah i think i don't know what the genesis of that was but um she had raymond davidson on and she got her freaking initials on freaking avengers i know i know and then loser kids got uh turtles we're next we're gonna be on uh i'm talking to american pinball i'm i'm gonna call joe i'm getting on october i'm gonna call joe kamikaw i want my name to scroll across on Laser War. Hey, Kamikow, don't you think it's time we get an update? Go to date on Laser War. Welcome to the Poor Man's Football Podcast. It scrolls across the screen. Oh, my God. The amount of airtime I've given Oktoberfest, I deserve something on Oktoberfest. That's not true. I should have been on the back glass with the damn monkey. Oh, it's funny. All right, anyway. So anyways, listen to Jessie J's Pinball Adventure. So she was with Raymond Davidson, and he made the joke, what did he say, we should call it Jesse Ray's Pinball Adventures. And I was like, oh, that was his joke. Jesse Ray instead of Jesse J. Is that number four? No, that's not. Is that your joke or his joke? No, that was his joke. Yeah, that's, he's fucking 0 for 1. Sorry, Ray Day. Ray Day. But anyways, it was a good, that's fine. It was a good episode, and I suggest that you check out her podcast. And if Ryan sees back, it'll be okay. It would be okay. Absolutely. Glenno says, get it? It's like a pun. Jay and Ray rhyme. Get it? Get it? Yeah, we get it. We get the bad joke because we make them here all the time. Bro, I was born on bad jokes. Bad jokes. I don't know what that means. No, we don't. Should we You know what We didn't put in the notes And now would be a great time Would be a great time for happy hour Happy hour Alright here we go We're doing that thing again Where we just go to town It's poor man pinball podcast Happy hour Which can only mean Through deep thought and self reflection We go to the viewers comments There you go. So it's happy hour here at the Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Ian's cracking up. That was pretty good, man. That sounded really good in the earbuds here. Thanks. So happy hour is where we just, you know, we riff off script like the rest of our show. Of riffing off a script? Implying that we had a script? Yep. Yep. We have no notes. Big shock. Big shock. You know, being the sloppiest show on the internet in the beginning was well-deserved. We have taken this to a whole other level. We have. We have. We love it. We put a lot of work into it. Sure. But what's funny to me is, like I said, when we do our podcast, Ian did such a good job with editing. I would listen to some episodes, and I'm like, we sound professional. Yes. And now when I hear my own segues in this live show, I'm like, oh, that just sounded like shit. I'm like, hey, what do you think we should do now? Let's do happy hour. That sounds like fun. You know, because like in the podcast days. I just delete all that shit. Yeah, there was sometimes we would record for like two and a half hours and we'd end up with an hour of usable shit. Absolutely. Because an hour and a half of it was terrible. and and there was uh there was one time i think we shared this story before when ian and i literally quit on the podcast because not like quit forever but it was we were so we we recorded what like almost an hour i think it was it was 40 40 minutes maybe it was an episode so so we're we're like pretty far into this episode and at one point ian kind of looked at me and i looked at him and we were so mad we weren't really we we only had like one drink or something we were just you know whatever and then he's just like do you want to just scrap this and i'm like yeah this is like bad and we kind of like reviewed it and we're like yeah this is like really really bad so we we just scrapped that episode i think we just didn't put out an episode that week then or no we didn't um it only happened one time though no one time one bad one yeah and it was it was bad and do we still have the audio for that someday we we said we wanted to like play it someday just to share it with people. We might upload it if we can find it, but it was really bad. Okay, but did you notice that your sound is actually better than several of the podcasts out there? I couldn't listen to the Slam Tilt podcast because of how tiny they sounded. Well, hey, that actually makes me feel really good because we do spend a lot of time on making it look and sound good because, yes, I agree with you, man. If the sound quality is bad with the exception of Orbital Elbert because I just love it, yeah, it's important. It's important to us to make sure that we sound halfway decent because this is the point, right? Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Getting good. So what do you guys want to talk about? Happy hour. This is your time to shine in chat. What do you guys want to talk about today? Glenno says they are tiny. Glenno. Glenno. God damn it. You're not supposed to tell anyone. I saw your penis, man. Talk about tiny. Glenno, what's the matter with you? All I see is booze, Cavalier. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of booze in front of us here. We're not drinking Dewar's today. No, we're not drinking. Oh, thank you again, Amy, for the... I'll do another shot of that later. Yeah, that stuff was good. The butthole burn. There we go. Mistress Anne, put the kilt on. Mistress Anne. Mistress Anne is asking. Put the kilt on? We can do that. So, Mistress Anne, for you guys who are not in the know, is Tim Lee's lovely wife. Mistress. Mistress. That's what I said. Get it right, dude. I know. Now I just confused everyone. Yeah. But anyways, she is a great woman, and she has been listening, and it's been awesome. So thanks, Mr. Sand. Thank you, Mr. Sand. I appreciate it. What can we tell the listeners about your husband? Kilt costs bits. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What was it last time? Like, five cents. Yeah, we were like, okay, the first time we can get to 50 bits, we're putting on a kilt. And Ian's like, I got to get naked for 50 bits. We're like, yeah, you got to get naked for 50 bits. I've got naked for less. Yeah, because it sounds cool when you say 50 bits, but then you're like, how much is that? 50 cents. 50 cents. That's about it. Yeah. I threw two quarters at the monkey and he danced. So nothing wrong with that. Mistress Anne just encouraging them in Spanish. Oh, we got one from Tim. Thanks, Tim. Why is the bottle not empty? Oh, Mistress Anne. Oh, well, because actually we haven't been down here since our last podcast. Oh, let's tell them that story when we walked down here today. We walked down here. I had not been down here in, yeah, two weeks. Yeah, and like our glasses were still down here. They were gross. Yeah, a little moldy. Not moldy. I'm kidding. But they were gross. Yeah, and Ian's just like, I haven't been down here in like two weeks. We made a mess of the whole studio because we got hammered that night. Did we have fun last time? I was like, yeah, we had a lot of fun. That was that fucking Friday when we were done. Oh, man. All right. So put the kilt on. What else do you guys want to talk about besides my kilt? Yeah, that's all they want to talk about. They're giving bits. Try number only episode, the lost episode. Yes, there you go. We can do that. We'll do that. Jonathan Hall, I'm trying to figure out how to buy 50 bits. Jonathan Hall, just put 50 cents in an envelope and send it to... Kilt chat. Oh, this is a thing. This is a thing. Look what you started, buddy. See? You make fun of my nipples. and we started this whole kilt thing with you, which I'm fine with. So I love it. I know you're okay with it. You're the one that doesn't have to get naked every time. Like I would care? That's true. Why don't you put on the kilt this time? You guys want to see Drew wear the kilt? I don't know if that would fit around my fat ass. Oh, my God. Jesse J., yes. Of course they want to see. You're the sexy bump, brother. Yeah, I am a bump. Get naked, says Chris Chandler. And Tim Lee just says no. Oh, Tim Lee. Here's 50 from Jonathan Hall, says Underground Pinball. Shit, you guys. Do it, says Jesse J. Our newest tribe member said do it, so you have to do it. I've never said no to Jesse J. I'm not going to start saying no. No. There we go. Put that kilt on, monkey boy. She just gave you 100 bits. Should I take my pants off again? No. No, you can go pants on today. It's not last time, isn't it? No. Well, pants off. I think pants off is going to be like 1,000 bits or something. We'll really ratchet it up. So, yep. Pants off, shirt off for 2,000 bits. We're like doing an auction house here. Is that thing adjustable? I need to know. Or should I just buy one for my curvaceous body? Look at this fucking thing. Oh, yeah. You can get that around? Oh, yeah. You ain't fat. I didn't realize. Yeah, well, I have lost weight. But I haven't realized that, yeah, that is pretty big. this is a thing i forget how this goes again oh i love it i love it take my money sexy mofos oktoberfest hat too that's from jonathan hall you guys are oktoberfest whores so jonathan hall has bought an oktoberfest now so him and ian that's like all they talk about all day every day hey check out my oktoberfest i'm cool because there's only There's only 250 of these in the world, and I have one of them. Sorry, American Pinball. I love you guys. They're doing another run. It is a great game. It really is. Drew Rolls Kardashian style. I don't even know what that means. I would look good in a kilt. Thanks. You would look good in a kilt. I would. I have a kilt body. Drew, you need to get a matching kilt, says Mr. Sand. Amazon it is. You think you can get something this beautiful on Amazon, man? I wonder if we can get... Oh, I love it. Oh, I love it. I wonder if we can get... Let's get Jeff Patterson to start selling these on... What's our... Silver Ball Swag. We can get Poor Man's kilts. How awesome would that be? Oh, my God. You are the... You know what? In the PC world we're living in, guys, He might be a racist stereotype right now. I'm a German Scott. Fuck off. Kilt Ball Swag. I'll buy one. Jesse J would buy one, too. All right. See? What's that? A kilt from Silver Ball Swag. We got to talk to Jeff and just get poor man's written on the ass or something. That would be awesome. Poor man's kilt. Uh-huh. Poor man's kilt. Write that down. We just sold like five of them already. Okay, we will get you. Here's the thing. It's a pre-order model, guys. So anyone who wants a poor man's kilt, it'll be a $500 down payment. Sorry, that's 5,000 bits for you lame-os. Yeah, so send 5,000 bits. That's only $50, dude. I don't know what I'm doing. Wait, is that right? No, it's not. 50,000 bits? I don't know. What just happened? the math is fuzzy i don't do bad happy hour is a success i can tell uh always yeah math is hard that is hard thank you guys where's fucking doc finlay he's the one he's my math guy oh yeah work it i'm doing it baby kilts are trending up oh sorry all right Kelts and Oktoberfest bundle for podcast listeners. You know what, brother? All right, so what else we got today? We have some very cool mail call. Mail call? Very, very cool. Some very good mail call. You got the mail call thing there? What is it? I don't know. I can't read. Mail call. Mail call. The heavy slurring and incoherent babbling can only mean one thing. It's time for Last Call. In Mail Call, Last Call, so we got a very cool email from one of our listeners. So I want to read this in its entirety and explain what he's doing because this is very cool. Reach out to you because I thought you would be interested in covering an exciting pinball project I've just forgotten. That's for you, Cavalier. Sorry. My name is Lauren, and I am taking a 1980 Bally Centaur pinball machine and converting it into a working and playable coffee table. Ooh, I don't know if I like that. Hang on. I know that others have put playfields into coffee tables, and some have gone as far as to light them up, but this project goes beyond that. Once complete, I will create an interactive coffee table that tilts up and plays just like the original. However, it will rest no higher than 18 inches from the ground when not being played. In July of 2020, I purchased this. This is what makes me cringe. In July of 2020, I purchased the 1980 Belly Centaur for $5,800. This thing was nice, okay? It's a nice example. Because I think high-ends go for $7,000, $8,000. Beat-up ones go for $4,000. So $5,800, I mean, you're getting a pretty nice one. They only made 3,700 of them. Paul Faris laid down some exceptional artwork. If you guys haven't seen it, check it out. Centaur is beautiful. It's a gorgeous pin. it also met the criteria for the project as a relatively simple early solid state machine. Yes, but there's a lot of those out there. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Okay. I'm okay with it, but I know a lot of people won't be. This will allow me to squeeze it into a low-profile table form factory because obviously it doesn't have the ramps and stuff, so that makes sense because it's lower. The machine is completely functional with push buttons wired up and insert coins to start a game. I've already stripped down the machine and have all the internal components mounted on a pinball rotisserie of my own design. We'll put these up on our Facebook page. He made this awesome pinball rotisserie. That's just – this guy is a master craftsman. Sounds delicious. This workstation will be a huge help in allowing me to play the game during the development of numerous custom components and features, including backbox replacement on the custom display, decoder circuitry, 2.42-inch OLED display, linear actuator playfield tilting feature with digitally adjustable game difficulty. Slam and tilt sensor replacement with six-axis accelerometer. Converting from a manual to a solenoid ball launch, which means he's getting rid of the plunger and putting a button, which makes sense for this project. He's currently releasing bimonthly updates on Instagram, and I've posted two so far. We'll add links to this also. And the pinball rotisserie, so we'll add all those links. Hang on. In order to complete this build, I'll be shifting gears from electronics to woodworking to machining to graphic design over the next four months. After the build is complete, I'll be releasing a full-length polished production of the build on YouTube. I'm very excited about sharing this project with you, and I'm hoping you might be interested in covering it. We are interested in covering this, sir. It is possible to set up an interview to discuss the project. Yes, we can probably do that. I'd be happy to have a conversation and provide further details and images. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you, Lauren. in so that was a lot to take in right jesse j centaur is beautiful but the colors freak my eyes out when i play it i agree it's kind of black and white but it's not black and white it's pretty crazy no that is true um so here's here's my okay so let's let's kind of give our thoughts on this first of all lauren this is a super ambitious project and i give you all the props in the world because it looks like this uh is going to be awesome now you know right now there's some purists out there just screaming yeah there's a purist whose foreskin fell off yes so like i've seen it uh i think i think or dave Jeff Brenner never seen that coming yeah um i think i think it's very cool um i think centaur is a cool game i think i think if you get this uh coffee table to lift up a transformer style that would be very cool right um where you know it lifts up and then you can play it like a regular game and then you can have it back as a coffee table art piece right right so so very ambitious very cool uh yeah we we could have you on the show do an interview with you right see what see what's all about that'd be pretty awesome um what do you think though do you think there's more people that say this is a fantastic idea or more people Let's say, what is this guy doing with a $6,000 pinball machine? Well, first off, Ted Finlay chimed in on that $6,000 price tag. Too high. Too high? Way too high. For a nice centaur? Let me see here. Centaur is amazeballs. Yep, that wasn't Doc. Hold on. Doc Finlay, $2,938 is the average in 2020. Really? Almost $3,000. now those sales were these like i mean i'm talking like this thing i think it's like restored i want to see photos i'm not picturing it in my head all right dr harbour let me get a let me get it going here for you let me see um because i know it's rare and they're saying here 3700 for that year is very rare because they were a lot of those games they were making you know 10 000 12 000 whatever you know 8 000 but they were making a lot um okay well i i guess doc finley i'll just i'll just reply with this if you can find me a centaur for three grand i will give you a 10 finder fee and i'm serious because i i would i would pay 3500 for a centaur hmm yeah right yeah centaur's fucking yeah it's it's it's a fun game it's a gorgeous game um yeah i would uh show it i am gonna work on getting that okay he's working on it yeah it's in our email um i think if the project is pulled off well people will come around to it yeah jesse j i agree we don't have a lot of pictures of the no he sent us two pictures no but you can see the play field on the one and you can see the cabinet on the other so um it does look nice but right no that's what i'm saying no i i just saw the pictures briefly and i'm like i i can just tell from a brief look that's that's a nice nice cabinet you know it's it's in decent shape i mean even if it's not pristine it's like it's it's a nice machine um pinball doc says ebay august 2300 pin sighted may 3.5 okay no i in pinball doc i am not disputing your expertise because you do this for a living um i just i just thought they were worth more money i really did so maybe it uh and then Underground Pinball says, Pinside estimated value is $44.40 to $51.60. See, that's what I was thinking. It was more in the $5,000 range. So, got to check on my kids. Be right back. Glenno, your kids are fine. Why aren't they watching us? Shit, bitch, cunt. I mean, really. Come on, Glenno. Really? No more singing the binging. Yeah, sorry about that. It'll never stop being funny. You're right. 582 pinsiders have it on their wish list, which is a really big number. Yeah, I agree with that. Tim Lee, no, I'm watching the poor man. Ian is clearly bored. He's showing crotch pics. Fucking picture. Oh, no, I lost it. How the hell do I get it back? Pinside equals amateur. It's a spinball doc. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, would anyone out there in chat right now, would anyone pay $4,500 for a nice Centaur? I guess is the question. Maybe yes, maybe no. I wouldn't pay more than $4,000 for one, but if I could find one for $3,500, then definitely. Mike Williams says no. Jonathan Hall says no. Tim Lee says no. Hell no. Okay, we got it. australian yes maybe says jesse j maybe 2500 okay okay no this this is interesting because um you know i just i just really thought that that was one that was more sought after by collectors played it saturday cool game but not 4500 i agree tim lee definitely wouldn't pay 4500 for it either pinball doc drop mic okay you made your point pinball doc everyone's like no fuck that no fuck fuck no um pinball doc why why did i even doubt you yeah you're the man you're the price man truly um dr john not even aussie dollars wow 4 500 aussie dollars is like 2 500 bucks or something three grand um i'm having a hard time buying any i'm putting all this work into this dumb thing and we're not even seeing pictures of it as a table get a new box that almost makes it That picture makes it look like it's miniature. Look at this fucking thing, though. This rotisserie is ridiculous. It is. Isn't that cool, though? That's a cool rotisserie. No, you guys, we'll put this up on our Facebook page because the rotisserie is worth the price of admission, which is free, by the way. That looks like a little miniature guy. Stephen Silver, thanks for chiming in. Thanks for listening, buddy. I'd pay six grand, but only if someone made a coffee table out of it. Stephen Silver, I miss you, brother. Project is awesome. No, Tim Lee, you're right. And that's what I said. And Lauren, if you're listening, no, I do think it's a worthy endeavor. So I'm glad you're doing it. And I'm the guy who put three times more money into Meteor and Firepower than they're worth. I'm a laser war kid. Yeah, we have three. What are we having at Laser War? I don't know. Too much. Yeah. I have the spreadsheet at home, and every time I open it, I cry a little bit. Yeah. I see Laser War. That doesn't include all the shit I spent in it. I tried to keep track and it hefty Absolutely it hefty It pinball baby It is pinball That pinball baby So that all the pictures i have so it a cheese slice every time i go to live cheese slices i like the idea of a coffee table it's a functioning game i do too does that six thousand dollar coffee table come with a pile of cocaine on it uh laser war coffee table please Stephen Silver you read our minds if we knew how to do that we would speaking of laser war we were i was shooting the shit with Brian Allen, who does the back glasses. He has the Whitewater artwork that just got released. So if you guys have not seen that, it's on the Poor Man's Pinball page. But he redid the Whitewater art to include a lot of Williams Easter eggs. So it's not even like a one-to-one ratio as far as the old artwork. It's like it's got the fish from Fishtails. Oh, yeah, it had everything. I didn't see that. All sorts of little nods to other games. So I thought it was really cool. But I did tell him, I was like, hey, man, if you wanted a real challenge you don't Dick White water to improve on the artwork you pick something like laser war like can you beat laser war as far as art goes i don't know i like i like i like willie on hgh but he did he did well dude willie was huge on mine yeah did you see him on brian did you see him originally he's huge yeah but brian's like he's ripped even laura was laura was like dude that is one hell of a ripped old dude he's huge he's huge regardless mike williams i want to know how many times drew has refilled that poor man's whiskey bottle until it's gone we're not gonna get into that okay what do we got next buddy um we have two things left uh we kind of yeah we have we have packages to open we have things to do all right so what we have Before we get into that, let's do our Stern giveaway. Stern Backpack giveaway. Oh, yeah. I'm flipping out pinball. What is the criteria? All right, hold on. Before we get into that, let's do a little. We're getting there, Chris Chandler. Just hold your horses. Chris Chandler, this is on our time, brother. We'll make sure you get your price of admission worth, okay? All right, let's get flipping out a little bit of credit here. All right. Sorry, that was a little loud, guys. But, yeah, you get the idea. So, go ahead. Go ahead. Flip N Out Pinball has graciously donated another item we can give away right now, here and now. It is the Stern Backpack. Now, he gave us a list of a few things, but I chose the Stern Backpack. He was like, dude, good fucking choice. It's a badass backpack. We need a cocktail break. One of our listeners had to pee. Which listener? Rachel. So we're just going to stop? Yep. We'll wait for you, Rachel. So anyways, while we're waiting for Rachel, we can talk about what else we're going to do after this. How's that? That's fine. What do you want to do? So after our great Stern backpack giveaway from Flip N Out Pinball, we will be doing another taste test that will not be nearly as bad as the Moon Pie tobacco of 2020. We have a taste test today. Yes. Cool. Yeah. So Chris Chandler was so nice as to donate some more taste testing goodies for us. Yes. So we will have some fun with that. And they are not Moon Pies because Moon Pies are never allowed in my mouth ever again. That's what he says. uh and then we also have we also have a package from dick doc finley dick finley doc doc fin lay see i did the fin and the doc together turned into dick dick finley i didn't say dick you did say dick dick i sent us a beautiful package we will open we will know i'm so excited to try it out and i will never i will never doubt usually ever again when i'm just gonna say doc what does cost and he'll tell me and i'll say okay that's it yeah that's how it's gonna go he just slapped you with his price penis he's like 2800 bitch right across the face penis i'm like jesus that thing's like 8200 walks into the room oh it's like oh you got hit by dax price penis again yeah he got me again this is why he's a sponsor guys this isn't a joke pinball prices.com Pinball practice. No Tim Tam whiskey slams? No. Jesse J., that almost killed me. I actually really like the Tim Tam whiskey slam. I do. Yeah, that was fun. It was hard, though. You had to, like, really suck on that. That's what she said. Oh! All right. So, anyways, okay, so. Stern Backpack? Yeah, Stern Backpack giveaway from Flip N Out Pinball. Thank you, Zach. Is Rachel still peeing? We're still waiting for Rachel. No, she. Rachel, you back yet? How much for Laser War? What do you want to buy it from us? Yeah, Jonathan Hall. It's for sale. Make an offer. We'll take anything over $3.50. Go ahead. That's not true. We're starting a bidding now. Doc Finlay, what's a laser war go for? It's going to be like $12.50. Thank you, Doc. She got the awesome powers P going. Hell yeah, she does. Pinside, one sale in $2,100. It's going up. We're getting there. It's going up. Wow, prices have been crazy. my uh my brother was asking me about his no good gophers because he paid 3,900 for it you know last year yeah and he's he's like today he texted me he's like i'm on pin side and there's a bunch of people asking like 5,700 for no good gophers and i'm like it's a it's a fun game i like it and i'm like and he's like is this like the top of the market and i said you know with covid going on i don't know i mean yeah i was like it's just going bananas right now and no there were literally five sale five people asking more than like 4,500 for it like five grand i mean it's so jonathan hall uh we'll probably we probably will put up laser wart for sale here coming up um chris chandler no good gophers isn't crap it's a fun game it is a fun game um it will laser will go up because we want to we want to do a new project since we wanted to take this to show us but it just isn't happening so uh what we're gonna do i don't know soon we'll put it up soon i think i think three is fair since we probably got about six in it five or six in it probably five in it i don't know i have to do some math but math is hard but honestly yeah i think i think three grand is a fair price terrible for the amount of shit well and once again going back to this no good gopher thing they're going for a little less than four and now they're going for more than five I mean, like I said, the sky's the limit. All right. So let's do this pretty backpack giveaway. I don't know what she's doing with her bladder, but here we go. She's here. She said she's here. Oh, okay. Welcome back, Rachel. We were waiting, Rachel. All right, so this is what we're going to do for the Stern Backpack giveaway. So we all know what CGC does best right now. They make remakes of classic Williams tables. Right, Drew? Yes. So they did Medieval Madness, Attack from Mars, Monster Bash. And then everybody, Jonathan Hall the other day posted something about he would love to see a Totem. So it got me thinking, what would be the worst game they could remake? Like the absolute worst pinball machine that they could remake. Can I just give my funny answer before they start chiming in? What's that? Hercules. Hercules? That's so good to imagine. I want to know what you guys think. I have something in my mind, which is really terrible. game by the way but well what would be the worst absolute worst game and remember this is me and you're judging these are guys i want a black belt which is at the left bottom let's qualify just williams game or is this any game okay everything's on yeah he's remake they're remaking any game any production game no production yeah you can't say like crawl because they didn't really produce it well that wouldn't be a bad one to have but like something like bingo bingo or whatever bingy zingy bingy zingy thank you bingo bango diaper man sitting on table yeah we're not doing that one production machines machines are actually made yep so what is the worst one hard body for is their jam yeah see hard body wouldn't work for us guys no we like we like hard body you have to like go to us you gotta understand where we're coming from I still want a black belt. We got one, two, three for Bugs Bunny. Ooh, Bugs Bunny, huh? I have something in mind. Raven. Yep. I'm going to whisper to you what I think. Oh, yeah. I got you. What is that called? Hyperball. Yeah. You guys didn't hear that, did you? You guys probably read my list. They're trying to guess it? Oktoberfest? I don't know. That was what I was thinking. but we'll go through everybody's idea so octoberfest tim lee you're a bitch uh orbiter one orbiter one oh mr and miss pacman that's a pretty bad one actually jesse j missed the question jesse j what is the worst pinball game they could remake like cgc could remake it has to be a production game that you want to see well you don't want to see it remade what's the worst possible game they could remake orbiter that's a good one poor man would buy hard body new in a box yes jeremy yes we would you know no we're not even kidding like if they put hard body in a brand new box we'd be like tomorrow we'd be like yep it's it's worth it we'll be like uh we'll sell you a laser war for 12 dollars mario brothers that's an interesting one because i hear that's a pretty good uh earner that's a very good earner the game that one just needs to be remade space cadet dominoes dominoes That's a pretty bad one. Motor Dome. Motor Dome. Dragon. Bow, bow. I've not tried Dragon. Yeah, I don't know much about Dragon. Space Cadet. Oh, Space Cadet from... Is that the... Long-ass eight-ball piss. Oh, wait. No, that's something else. Wheel of Fortune. Caveman. Raven. Ooh, these are all good ones, guys. Yeah, Underground Pinball says Nugent, and he's not wrong. Nugent? Like, that was a cool theme because it was made in, like, 75. It was just like, you know. Popeye. Yeah. Dr. Horrible. Hard body. I still want to own a Popeye someday. Everyone knows this. Popeye. Zach Manning and I are the only ones in the world that want to own a Popeye. He does. Thunderbirds, baby. Stephen Silver. That game should never be remade or mentioned ever again. MGC is in November. I understand it. If we don't sell this, it will be at MGC, the Laser War. El Toro. Gilligan's Island. I love Popeye. Popeye is actually kind of fun. All right. Do we have a winner yet, Drew? What do you feel? Keep them coming. We're going to go and open up Doc Finlay's present right now. Or should we just? Oh, I really want to see that one remade. That game's kind of cool. Sharky's? Sharky's Shootout is? Sharky's Shootout. I do like that one. Millionaire. Hey, Mike Williams. Millionaire is a fun game. I played it once at Expo, I think, when I was still sober, believe it or not. Chris Chandler, those things happen. I like the longest cigarette in the world, though. What? I don't know. I'm missing out here. Another one for Nugent. El Toro. A lot of love for Popeye. All right. Shaq. Oh, I haven't played Shaq, but I could probably guarantee that this is pretty bad. Jesse J. So there's a venue here in Melbourne, which has a Popeye and a Gilligan's Island next to each other. Oh, that's awesome. That is awesome. Uh, bad cats. Yep. That's why I love Australia. They always actually bad cats would be a, it'd be a good one to remake. I would love a bad kids. Oh, catacomb. Yes. I, I almost called a guy about a catacomb the other day. Yeah. I saw one in Illinois. Oh really? It was like, uh, I think he's asking like three grand. All right. That's like the cesspool of pinball. Original Turtles from Data East. Yes. Mistress Anne chimed in. Class of 1812. That's a cool game. That really is. Way to go, Mistress Anne. Cool in the way of it's cool, but it's bad. It's so bad it's cool. Mistress Anne, your answer should be anything that Tim Lee hates. Let's get it. Any baseball-related pin. Ooh, Fliptronic. I think we should just give it to Fliptronic. He gave us, like, 12 really bad games. Fliptronic, you are going to be the winner by far. And it wasn't because you said Cactus Canyon, LOL. Nope. He just tried to do Gold Wings. Gold Wings. All right, Fliptronic, you win. You win it. All right, we're giving it to Fliptronic, everyone. Fliptronic, I agree. Fantastic. Fliptronic, get us your mailing address. Shoot us a message on Facebook, and we'll get you out that stern backpack, brother. Cactus Jack. Ooh. We love that game. Yes. Stop. And Rachel, we actually. I feel like some of you guys don't listen to us. We actually played that at District 82. Love it. We were there, and Ian and I were both like, oh, my God, there's these dancing cacti that look like Chuck E. Cheese dolls. Let's give them some cheese slices, guys. Yeah. Fliptronic. Way to go, Fliptronic. Love it. Roy Clark, the entertainer. He says he will also be first in line for a CGC Cactus Canyon, though. All right, sweet. Nothing wrong with that. All right. He's got a great stream, too, everyone. Yes, he does. Fliptronic, they did the Deep Root stream. Yes. And good job with that, Fliptronic. Can you give us your real name, or should we just keep calling you Flip? All right, so Fliptronic. Yeah, which Fliptronic is this? because no i know there's there's the the jordan oh jordan jordan what's your counterpart's name just so we know yeah what's her name all right fuck you jordan back up all right back back on jordan jordan wins the backpack back up fuck off we're good all right all right back up we love you we love you all right so everybody i'm gonna go and i am gonna get some get uh some presents look at that bar cam it's awesome it keeps falling it's like propped on a beer bottle only the finest quality here at the podcast like it's literally propped in you know what like you guys were talking about the audio and how it sounds better and kind of professional which it does but if you guys like saw this basement and it's a great basement don't get me wrong but just you know it's it's just it looks a lot cooler on stream i'm sure but we have so much fun down here this is like one of the greatest spaces in in my life did you open the package oh it looks opened well this one's open because it's the it's the food oh like We got... Oh, my God. Flavors. Okay, so let's open up Doc Finlay's cheese slices. So Doc Finlay sent us a care package, as he sometimes does. Here it is. We have no idea what's in there. There's always a lot of little booze bottles, which I am not opposed to. But let's see what we got this time. You can send all your packages to Ian Hopperman at... You can send whatever you want. Hey, Christopher Franchi, we got another package. Did you get one this week? Opening these packages is super satisfying, Franchi. Sorry. Still waiting for my creature from the Black Lagoon Translight thing. Oh, is he shipping those out soon? Well, he turned it into more of a poster, so I got the poster. You guys hear us all right? Do we have audio? Hello, hello? All right. So, yeah. Ooh. Rachel says nice package. Thanks, Rachel. Ah, naughty. My package is too big to ship. Zach, you are a silly, silly man. He wrapped the present. Oh, we got actual gifts. I love it. This one has your name on it, Dick. Oh, okay. Learn how to read, Santa Claus. Hold on. There's something here to read. We've got to read this. All right. So thanks, Doc. Is this something about your butthole? Yeah. All right. So Merry Christmas. Open these generous gifts before Christmas. If you already have one, please re-gift to Franchi. He claims he never gets anything from his listeners. Are you in our brain right now, Josh? Oh, that's awesome. Please vote for my website on Twippy Awards. It's my first year. Already did. and I already voted for your sorry asses. I voted for you too, buddy. And since you're probably reading this during the Twitch stream, please, kind watchers, vote for pinballprices.com and, of course, Poor Man's Pinball Podcast. Merry Christmas, Doc Finlay. You know what, Doc? Absolutely. I did vote for you, brother. And, yeah. Very much so. You had to. Great, great, great website. Great. Even though I don't listen to your website, apparently, or don't heed the advice. And I'm like, that's wrong. That's how I am. I got no words, guys. Oh, my God. So fucking cool. Oh, that's perfect. Oh, that is awesome. We got Santa Claus playing pinball machine. Santa Claus playing pinball ornaments. Oh, Doc, you outdid yourself, man. This is great. How cool is that? I freaking love it. You know, I saw this the other day, and I was like, that's really cool. I wish I had one, and now I do. And it lights up? oh that's even better doc this is going on the tree because my wife put up the tree yesterday and we we don't have a lot of fun ornaments anymore because I don't know they're in storage or whatever so it's just like you know a plain tree with a couple of nice ornaments this is going to be perfect just put dead center snowball blaster it's called that game is probably way better than Laser War and Thunderbirds. Snowball Blaster. Super cool, man. Thank you, Doc. Thank you so much. Got to give a shot? Yeah. Almost. Out of focus. Out of focus. There you go. We're in focus. There you go. Snowball Blaster. Super cool, Doc. It's the only game that Drew can get a high score in. And I still need to take the glass off. Sorry, Doc, I'm going to have to ruin your ornament. The glass is coming off. The glass is coming off. Tell Kathleen the pinball is coming home. Exactly. I bought another pinball. All right. So, fuck, we're out of cocktail juice here. That was all. How are you doing? I'm doing great. You doing all right? Yeah. All right, so we need to get some ice, Stan. So here's the plan. Short, short, short cocktail break. We're going to go get some ice, and we're going to get set up for our taste test, okay? Cool. So we will be right back, guys. It'll be a short one. Thank you guys for participating in the Poor Man's Pinball Madness. And we love all you guys. Once again, welcome tribe member Jesse J, number 37, to the Poor Man's Pinball tribe. And anything else, Mr. Ian? Well, let's take a look at chat before we leave. All right. So the McRib is back. how'd the Kessler sponsorship go? not good Glenn I like the phenomenon of the McRib the actual McRib sucks love you tribe and all your buttholes thank you Dr. John can't wait for the McRib flavored nuggies thank you Zach Tony Scoots good job fellas thank you Glenn for the poor man's or the real podcast of genius it's the by far the funniest segment that we've ever done and we didn't even do it that's all you glenn so thank you so much glenn for that we can't thank you enough for that um let's see what else we got pinball doc yes um great show guys thank you tony uh sack of rocks you better believe it glenn this is what we do on wisconsin is it a grinder no nice all right petrified beaver testicles dr john yeah prehistoric petrified beaver testicles i would i would try one would you try one a beaver testicle let's talk about the rocks dude you want to eat the rock all right next week drew's gonna taste all of the rocks uh jesse j congratulations on becoming a tribe member we are so happy to have you uh we need more of the c word in our life so we thought what the hell we Yeah, I get more Australians in. So that's the only reason. One, two, three. We have three Australians now? Fleshlight. What, Glenn? You can't just say Fleshlight. Yeah, I read that as Fleshlight, too. It is Fleshlight. I don't know what it is. Glenn, could you explain what a Fleshlight is? Because we would never know. We're gentlemen, sir. Glenn rules. Yes. Tim Lee writes the segment with me. And Dr. John helped this week. Absolutely. and Tim Lee we never like to give that man credit we'll give Mr. Sand some credit Mr. Sand thank you for keeping Tim Lee in check this week and Glenn we love you thank you for getting the best out of Tim Lee this week so we appreciate that there is not a fucking Friday so you don't have to hold on no no secrets this week we're tired we're going to bed but we really appreciate everything Drew do you have any final words I love beaver nuggets I fucking love beaver nuggets We appreciate it. We'll see you next week. See you next week. We are on. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 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