Magic Girl Pinball Playfield Overview Part 1

Kaneda Pinball Podcast YouTube (main)·video·8m 40s·analyzed·Feb 22, 2017

Analysis

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TL;DR

Magic Girl playfield tour reveals severe mechanical design flaws and unclear ball flow.

Summary

Kaneda provides a detailed walkthrough of Magic Girl's playfield, highlighting numerous design and mechanical issues. Key problems include removed magnetic saves, an ineffective spinner that deflects balls into outlanes, unclear lock mechanics obscured by decorative rabbits, a weak plunge with no groove, a non-functional loop-de-loop feature, and a central magnet mechanism with confusing ball flow that gets stuck. The analysis reveals fundamental design flaws in John Papa Duke's original concept and raises questions about playability.

Key Claims

Two magnetic outlane saves present in the prototype have been removed from the final version
high confidence · Kaneda directly observing the playfield and comparing to prototype knowledge
The spinner mechanism sits above the playfield and deflects balls into outlanes when hit with momentum
high confidence · Kaneda demonstrating and explaining the spinner behavior during playfield inspection
The LOCK letter targets are partially obscured by decorative rabbit figures, making them invisible during play
high confidence · Kaneda pointing out and demonstrating how rabbits block visibility of O and C letters
There is no groove in the shooter lane, resulting in weak plunges even at full strength
high confidence · Kaneda noting this has been a joke at American Pinball and demonstrating the weak plunge result
The tiger saw is not wired to anything and doesn't move
high confidence · Kaneda stating this directly after examining the toy
Magic Girl experiences significant outlane and drain issues
high confidence · Kaneda opening the playfield tour with this observation
The central magnet mechanism's ball flow is unclear and the ball gets stuck in the area underneath it
high confidence · Kaneda demonstrating ball behavior and identifying stuck ball problem during playfield inspection
The owl decoration is installed backwards and should face the opposite direction
high confidence · Kaneda visually confirming the owl orientation issue and suggesting it could be easily fixed or left ironic

Notable Quotes

“This game does outlay and drain a lot.”
Kaneda@ 0:53 — Sets tone for overall playability concerns with Magic Girl
“I'm not sure how you get the magic post to pop up. It happens when you hit something up there. I'm not sure, though, what it is.”
Kaneda@ 1:17 — Demonstrates unclear game mechanics and design intent
“There's been a lot of talk and concern about this piece breaking. Just so you guys know, there is a good inch and a half below this piece that the ball goes under. So the ball will never hit this piece.”
Kaneda@ 1:28 — Addresses community concerns about structural integrity
“It's not there. So what ends up happening is, even on a full plunge, you're not getting a really powerful sort of cannon shot of the ball.”
Kaneda@ 2:27 — Explains fundamental plunge/shot power limitation due to design choice
“That's how much he cares about magic girl”
Kaneda@ 5:30 — Sarcastic commentary on design attention to detail
“The ball, I don't know how the ball gets into this magnet. I really I really don't know what it does”
Kaneda@ 5:08 — Core admission of confusion about central playfield mechanism function
“Isn't playable... You're gonna need to have some sort of fix here to keep that ball from staying inside this area.”

Entities

Magic Girlgame KanedapersonJohn Papa DukepersonAmerican PinballcompanyBrendapersonChrisperson

Signals

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product_concern: Magic Girl's playfield design fundamentally unclear to owner/enthusiast after extended inspection; core mechanic (central magnet area) purpose and function remain mysterious
high · Kaneda repeated admissions: 'I don't know how the ball gets into this magnet', 'I really really don't know what it does', confusion about magic post activation
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design_philosophy: Decorative elements (rabbits, owl) conflict with gameplay clarity; aesthetics prioritized over function (lock letters hidden, owl installed backwards)
high · Rabbits obscuring L-O-C-K visibility, backward owl, unclear purpose of decorative elements like theater-of-magic spinner
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design_philosophy: John Papa Duke's design appears to lack consideration for ball physics and velocity, particularly evident in plunge mechanism (no groove) and spinner placement (too close to outlanes)
high · Kaneda noting the lack of groove despite being a running joke at American Pinball, spinner mechanics causing outlane drains, weak plunge results even at full strength
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product_strategy: Evidence of design-phase issues not resolved: removed prototype magnets, non-functional toys, stuck ball areas, suggesting game may have shipped with unfinished mechanical development
medium · Magnetic saves removed from prototype, unclear how many game mechanics activate, central mechanism requiring fixes, non-functional tiger saw still installed
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product_concern: Magic Girl exhibits significant mechanical design flaws including ineffective toys, unclear game flow, and non-functional features (tiger saw unwired, confusing magnet mechanism, stuck ball areas)

Topics

Magic Girl playfield design and mechanicsprimaryBall flow and playability issuesprimaryMechanical toy functionalityprimaryDesign clarity and player understandingprimaryAmerican Pinball manufacturing and design philosophysecondaryPinball prototype vs. production differencessecondary

Sentiment

negative(-0.72)— Kaneda's tone is critical and disappointed, repeatedly identifying fundamental design flaws, unclear mechanics, and non-functional features. While he maintains professionalism and some humor, the cumulative critique paints Magic Girl as mechanically problematic and poorly conceived. Moments of sarcasm (e.g., 'that's how much he cares about magic girl') underscore frustration with design decisions.

Transcript

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Alright, we've taken the glass off so you guys can get a better sense of what's going on in the game so there's not as much glare. We're also going to do some gameplay videos with the glass off as well. Just some things to note. I think when we saw the prototype of Magic Girl, there were two magnets that were near the outlanes that I think were designed to sort of save the ball, sort of a la Shooting Stars and Totem. Those have been removed. what's interesting is this here this this thing spins and they can already see it's like that's a little bit above the play field um and the ball sort of hits that and goes in different directions but you know again i don't think john really designed this uh to incorporate how fast the balls are coming at that so whenever the ball has any momentum it flies over that into the outlane This game does outlay and drain a lot. Another interesting thing about this game, you'll notice how the locks are here. There's an L, O, and then a C and a K. When you're playing, you can't see the O and the C because of the rabbits. They block it. Like, these rabbits are really cool, but you can't even see what's happening there. I'm not sure how you get the magic post to pop up. It happens when you hit something up there. I'm not sure, though, what it is. There's been a lot of talk and concern about this piece breaking. Just so you guys know, there is a good inch and a half below this piece that the ball goes under. So the ball will never hit this piece. So I don't think you have to worry about that breaking. What else can I show you? This tiger saw, it just spins. I don't think it's wired to anything, so we're not gonna see that thing moving. There's this weird, well before we go down here, so the skill shot plunge John didn put any we talk about it there no shooter lane groove It just flat with the rod So you really can get a powerful plunge out of this And I know that this has sort of been like a running joke with the guys at American Pinball that everyone said he needs to lower that to get more velocity or put a groove here to get more velocity with the plunge. It's not there. So what ends up happening is, even on a full plunge, you're not getting a really powerful sort of cannon shot of the ball. And if you look here, if you can get in there, Brenda, it's designed so the ball can go up this and flip over around back. So hold on. See, it goes up. Up in there. Let me grab a ball and try and throw you guys. Just keep shouting. And then it's supposed to back flip over here. Nice. It doesn't seem very logical. See look, like, if I try and get... It's hard to... Just give it a lash, go on. See how... No, I wasn't... It goes up around here and it's supposed to land within one of these. And it looks like... Oh right, here. Yeah. So, it comes off, it does like a loop-de-loop. You've not been able to do that yet. I just, I did it like once. but again it's because you can't get a strong enough plunge and I'm not sure if like a stronger spring will help with that I would be nervous about even more power hitting that plastic loop-de-loop there's the kick out here that that scoop works fine it kicks out strong every time and one of the videos I saw earlier it seemed to just dribble out right in here there's your scoop so I'm not sure what this does so if we get in on this the thing with the weird creepy Jesus looking fella Can I get you some more light with my phone? Let's see. Does that help? That's great. So in here, this, yeah, this like caveman Jesus guy, there's a switch at the bottom of it. And then the whole thing looks like it wrapped like it a magnet or something And I don know if the ball is supposed to go up there But it or just make I know it makes some sound when you hit it but that about it This here. This is like little was theater of magic land this spins That's great By owl so you guys know for confirmation. This is the owl that's backwards. He should be facing the other way I don't know if he's glued on there, but that's an easy thing to fix or I'm just making I think it's ironic to leave It that way there is the other house. So the this let's go back here to this big mechanism Again if you guys can see this thing, it's really Confusing like how this whole thing works. Nothing really works right now. You saw me hit some ramp shots But other than that The ball, I don't know how the ball gets into this magnet. I really I really don't know what it does You know, let me get a ball and drop it in there so you guys can see like what he might have been thinking It both his face down there, okay That's how much he cares about magic girl Get two out just in case we want to do more than one thing with it. Cool. All right. All right, so... Chris, maybe just, can you maybe for me even just explain, like, where's the ball meant to flow? Because right now there's just a lot of just plastic. Yeah, so we go up the ramp here. The ball can either... The ball goes up the ramp, and you saw me hit the shot. I mean, sometimes it goes up and it diverts. It looks like this is a diverter here. I'm zooming in on that. Hold on. If it diverts, right now the diverter is closed, so that would make the ball go down this rim here. Right? If that diverter is open and this ball loops around here see it just it and then goes down this way Right Right Now the big question is how does the ball get in there in the middle right So, if... You mean in the middle underneath the creepy looking fella? Yeah, how does it get in there? Like, the only thing I can see is underneath there, something like a, something would push the ball from underneath the center of it up. Like, almost like a pencil, like the alien tongue would push it up and bring it up into the middle of it. I don't know if I can see that. Can John Youssi that? No, we'll get that angle again. But here's the issue. like what happens when I drop the ball into this area right so it just came straight down it definitely it's definitely confusing because once the ball is in here you know it's it's it's it's got it to fall down there but then there's this place here if you can see this burn in the back here I want to I'm gonna break my owl. See back here? This ramp, it looks like the ball gets fed here. It's really difficult to see what you're minding on the way. Can you come around the back here? I'm up in a stoop. It rolls around the back there, and look at that, the ball gets stuck. Wow. Let's try it again. So clearly, we have a problem there. This can't, this can't, go down there, but this section isn't playable. Isn't playable. And you're gonna need to have some sort of fix here to keep that ball from staying inside this area. Yeah, let me move over so you can show people the back of that.