all right here we are live feeling good about today I feel great about t yeah what's up buddy you're a firefighter I love it I absolutely love it let's get everybody going here YouTube live Saturday morning Metallica spectac you lost someone's someone's going to be very happy today all right next all right 26 publish we're a little bit late better late than never all right now what we're going to do is we're going to get this thing going on um Facebook live video Saturday morning Metallica spec spectacular go ah good morning everybody how's everybody doing we're on we're on YouTube We're on Facebook and we're just gonna have a fun like 90 minute chat about pinball but you know why if you're here today 47 people 47 reasons why everyone's excited about this Metallica giveaway I'm excited to get someone in Metallica for basically MSRP 13 Grant all right I know I worded it like I was giving someone a Metallica but this is your best bet to get one everybody knows it everybody knows it let me open up audacity right now and let's like we got three things going this is amazing Corey's I got people on Facebook I got people on YouTube uh and I've got the best community in all the pinball just trying to do something good for the audience and for the community it's interesting you know no good deed goes unpunished it's amazing to me how even after doing this people are like oh you're just doing a marketing stun yeah okay cool marketing stun for what for another five bucks a month from like four people that joined the show since I announced this giveaway um of a spot it's not a giveaway of a game it's a giveaway of a spot at MSRP all right let's do this stop so welcome everybody to the Canada Saturday morning Metallica spectacular one lucky Club member who is a member of the caned Club is gonna get a chance to buy a Metallica El remastered for MSRP uh the rule are very simple you have to have been a caned Club member before entering you have to give me your name and phone number and then you have to pick up your phone when we pull your name out of a hat I'm looking at right now a list of names I've got something like 47 names here I'm not going to show you the numbers so you can start prank calling my club members but it's going to be a fun day thank you Brian C is here Lord Olaf I mean we got people from all over the world we've got some people on Facebook we've got some people on YouTube we're doing it both ways I wanted to open this up to everybody so this show today is a special show because it's not behind any pay wall uh I want everybody to see this Goodwill gesture I think it's good I heard your feedback when I went to go flip this game for a profit just to see where the market was people lost their mind they absolutely lost their mind they're like you're not allowed to can make a few bucks on a scout of a game I get it I get it everyone was happy to see me lose like $2,000 on Toy Story $1,000 on Ultram man um you know for those of us in the pinball space speculating on games and their value is a age old tradition I don't know what the big deal is what's the big deal like if I buy Netflix stock at 200 and it goes up to 400 or 500 or 600 do I have to sell it to you at 200 yeah I guess you do in the pinball world but I do understand that with this audience and with my voice in this hobby I do have a responsibility uh to set an example and I think everyone is kind of over sort of like the world of scalping and flipping and you know making money that way you know sort of taking the game from someone who's a fan who really wants it so I heard that I heard that loud and clear now if you're on Facebook you can come over to the YouTube channel it is also public um let me post it in the uh in the page two so people know they can go there let me just go on Facebook right now and let everybody know we're also on YouTube uh and we're gonna have some fun today we're gonna also talk about what's going on in the hobby because we're not doing the drawing until 11 o'clock so I am hopefully Killian will be back from the supermarket because I would love for him to be the one who pulls the name out of the hat so so uh that's going to be a lot of fun we're also on Youtube yay um let's post that and we might have a surprise guest join the show today we'll see what happens um yeah so thanks what I what I shared about Back to the Future we're going to talk about that um we're going to talk about everything going on in Pinball it's what we do on Canadas pinball podcast um super happy uh to spend that time at Expo and and meet people and hear rors and and sort of get ready for the next wave of games in pinball and I think everyone is sort of feeling that right now like we're kind of in that little bit of a limbo period Avatar hasn't really caught on people are not loving the game and ordering it left and right uh unless your name's Joe AB body you're not going to bat for Avatar as you know I think the game just needs to wake up in the software Department I think Keith P. Johnson has coded a game that has a lot I think in it but I don't think it has a lot of feels and a lot of emotion and a lot of energy and a lot of excitement and I think the challenge with Avatar now you know when you start making all those inserts sort of like the na'vi language like nobody knows what you're talking about right nobody knows W wah wah W multiball you know it's like all these weird names and we just don't click with the vernacular of Avatar the way we do with Star Wars right if I'm like I'm doing Beggars run or Millennium Falcon you know or going to sort of deab right you like those things matter uh I don't even think like the Hallelujah mountains like make anybody feel anything and I also think the game just just didn't put mechanical wow in it at all I I think the lower playfields are underwhelming uh I think that there should have been more of a upper Playfield Hallelujah Mountain sort of I think they should have done something similar to the uh Star Wars hype hyper drive right like they should have had something where it felt like you were getting on a banshee and you were flying around Pandora and so much of the game is just like not right Translating that so look the consumers are speaking it's not just Canada I think a lot of people out there are realizing too that you know those $155,000 CES of Avatar are going to be uh closer to $10,000 especially as we go into the spring of next year and Harry Potter is coming out so I keep telling everybody look if you like Avatar just wait they're gonna make a thousand of those CES and you're going to be able to pick one up at a wholesale price and why wouldn't you just if you really want an avatar CE why wouldn't you just wait and save like three to $5,000 now A Tail of Two games because the one game that's going in the opposite direction is Metallica leie this game is probably the best Stern launch since Godzilla uh I think the demand for Metallica remastered Le is actually greater than the demand was for Godzilla I think only making 500 was a very smart move by Stern Pinball in just one move they've restored sort of the fomo and the frenzy and the excitement around in leie and they really needed to do that right we hadn't felt that with John Wick we didn't feel it with Venom Jaws was like all right but not really hard it was not hard to get a Jaws Le now I'm seeing Jaws El you know sell for 12 115 I I get they're losing value there there's just no way around it they're losing value uh but Metallica Ellie I don't think think it's ever going to sell for less than 133 I've had offers north of 177,000 for the game I'm about to give someone here for 13 you know it's interesting I just just want to just say this for the record I I literally left $5,000 on the table with this game okay I charge people $5 a month to do a podcast okay so and when you sell a game like this like you're not declaring these things on your taxes when you do a scalp right so legitimately one sale of a Metallica Le for me is equivalent to all the hard work I do over two months right what I because I have to pay the government with my taxes on patreon two months worth of work I could have made up in one flip of Metallica and everybody got mad so I I just like I just want to say I'm doing the right thing you know it's not lost on me how much you know how much money you know dealers and distros can make you come on you know there's dealers out there gang who are holding some of these back and in a month or two oh look what I got new in box Metallica Ellie $9,000 and that's what's gonna happen look and and Stern can't stop it it's it's a market adjusted price and I would say the market price on this game is north of $177,000 right now and look I think it's a good thing because I think most people who buy it aren't going to sell it I think most people who buy this game are big fans they were fans of the original I think the value of The Originals is going to go down for sure and as I told my friends at Stern pinbal I think next time they do this the smart move would have been to try to identify Die Hard Metallica fans who bought the original one and still own it after 12 years those people should have had first dibs at the new game I think a lot of them sort of waited on the sideline and pretended they're dirty Donnie version is nicer it's not and now it's too late for a lot of them I think they all should have listened to Canada and just got their name on a list look if you got one and you just listen to me I just handed you $5,000 I I it legitimately there's no other way to cut this I just handed you a five ,000 stock tip that you could exercise all day long so you're welcome and I think people got confused about my wait and see sort of approach to pinball yeah wait and see on almost everything I always say this on almost everything but don't wait and see on a super hot game like this because you're gonna get locked out you're gonna regret it and the only way you're going to be able to get one is if you spend more money and that's where we're at right now with Metallica Le I think the game is great I think it's beautiful I also think people need to realize that Spike Three is coming so when Spike three comes and Spike three uh enhances you know what a Stern experience is better sound better lights better screen better everything uh better internet connectivity everything's going to be better uh I think that's going to knock Metallica down a little bit right I think people are going to have hoped it would have been the the first Spike three game I it was planned to be the first Spike three game um but you know they didn't have it ready in time I I still think Spike three King Kong Keith Elwin is is what's gonna happen uh and Brian Eddy's Dungeons and Dragons will be next uh we talked on my show this week about Back to the Future and how Dutch pinball would have an Herculean task to fulfill the demand um to fill the demand for uh the orders they would get for Back to the Future yes Dutch has been talking to stern to Jersey Jack they've been seen in the building uh and you know me I I think Stern should make the game I think Barry would be a hero and I think that's the right thing to do I don't think Jersey Jack would make a better Back to the Future than Stern and if Stern had one of their amazing designers like danger or eln do it I think I think a modern-day classic would be born if Jersey Jack did it I I just I I just don't know like maybe Steve Ritchie would be the one to go with but I'm not sure even with Steve you know Elton John is kind of a recycled idea of older games I you know we haven't seen Steve really wow us in a really long time he played a safe bet with Elton it's a bet that worked it's a great game it shoots it's the best shooting Jersey Jack game of all time but it's just the way it goes you know I want to see Steve you know sort of like do something along the lines of ACDC again or you know something along the lines I'm trying to think of like the last Richie game that I was like wow you know I just think elwin's so good I think danger is just so good uh so someone says jjp actually puts the money in though I think jjp will surprise us with a Kill Mech with Harry Potter and Back to the Future well I don't know man I don't know it's yet to be seen what's the killer Mech in Toy Story what's the killer Mech in The Godfather what's the killer Mech in Elton John what's the killer Mech in Avatar you could even argue what's the killer Mech in Guns and Roses I don't think Jersey Jack has made a killer Mech since Pirates of the Caribbean that's six years ago gang that's five games ago and so I just don't see it like I just don't see Jersey Jack engineering these killer Mech games and I've lost faith that they will do that I mean how fool me once fool me twice fool me three four five times now and it is a little confusing to me with the amount of money and the amount of resources they have that Jersey jack isn't running circles around everybody else when it comes to mechs when it comes to like exciting things things so um you know that's where we're at I'm going to move my my Facebook Camera over here let's let's get let's get everything in one shot how's that that looks better okay because I got the sun coming in um I'm GNA go up to the side just a little bit there we go everything's good we got Neo Geo we got Pulsar uh going on the Neo Geo sc14 we're going to go like this so you can see a little bit more Neo uh I love my setup I'm on my living room table and I've got the names people the names you're like Canada shut up like let's get to this drawing you're going to get your name put in a hat we've got my Canada hat and let's read out the names I gotta do I gotta cut these suckers up because I didn't do that yet so I want I want to do this real quick and wish everybody uh sort of good luck on this well let's do this in 10 minutes I'll do this in 10 minutes because we've got a 40 minutes to go before we do the drawing um here's my here's my take on everything happening in pinball prices are still Skyhigh right they're really high Jersey Jack Harry Potter is gonna I think GNA be the moment in which they either nail it or I kind of feel like it's a nail in the coffin for these guys because like and and I think the requirements to do Harry Potter right are going to come down to the assets and how they translate Harry Potter into pinball and I think what people are worried about does it have the movie assets and if it does and they don't sync up the clips with the film scenes I'm done I said it I'm not buying another Jersey Jack machine where the voices and the sound effects are not synced up with the clips I just won't do it you know it's like a little bit of godfather has it but not a lot Wily Wonka doesn't have it Guns and Roses has it Guns and Roses to me will I I think there's look there's a reason why Guns and Roses sold like five 6,000 units It's Kind of Perfect say what you will about the layout I get it it's a little bit more of a stop and go game it doesn't have the flow of a Stern but when you really understand G&R and you understand like how to set up the game right and how to achieve things so when you start a song you've got everything ready to go you collect the band members you get to band frenzy you get to Encore you know there's there's always a great moment in Gunz Rose is whenever you play it where you're trying to get to the Applause jackpot right it's very similar to the eclipse jackpot in Avatar you build it all up during the song and then you got to hit that shot as the song is ending and it's awesome and if you hit it you go to Encore and then you play another song from that album and the crowd's cheering and lights are going it's great it's a great moment I I mean I love love playing My Guns and Roses I'm never selling it yeah I get it the market is sort of falling out from underneath it simply because they made too many I think Jersey Jack overproduced the game for sure um Harry Potter I know is a monster theme but as a holder fantasy nerd it doesn't hit for me um the thing about Potter is this like let's be honest people like how many adults our Agee are we really the Potter demographic I'm not I mean I didn't read the books I saw all the movies but like it po Potter to me was like movies that I saw and I didn't need to see them again like I saw everyone I saw everyone in the theater and they were they were enjoyable I was entertained I thought the actors were great I thought they brought that world to life in such a good way but it doesn't stick with me culturally the way Han Solo does or Luke Skywalker or Optimus Prime or Galvatron and Megatron you know it just doesn't I I just He-Man like I just I don't know when I think about things that the moment I see them or hear them it awakens something in me and look I'm not saying that some people yeah they're all in on Potter I just don't know if the 40 to 60 year old demographic is as into it um as people think so we shall see you know look I'm more into Goonies and Back to the Future I'm more into a kraai Karate Kid I'm more into the DI hard Total Recall you know give me a vam game give me Big Trouble in Little China give me Fifth Element give me Matrix like you know these are the things that like all right they have much more just much more connection with me I mean from what I can tell Harry Potter like Voldemort like it's just this long drawn out narrative or him versus evil how he got the scar on his head and it's cute it's campy it's fun it's good but I I'm just not sure U that people are gonna uh you know I don't know I don't know I really don't know I don't know if it's going to be based on the movies it feels like a again a Herculean task to take all those like eight or nine movies and make it a pinball machine I mean Keith already just makes one or two movies into a ginormous Chinese Diner menu of of how to play a game I I feel like our heads are gonna be spinning with how much Jersey Jack tries to cram into Harry Potter so you know I um I I sort of like love where we're all at now in pinball because I think the imunity for the most part is really connected I think a lot of the newbies who came in during Co I think they've all been burned right I think they've all learned a lesson you know I see these guys you know who they are I don't have to name names but they came into pinball during covid they got bit by the bug they bought every game as it came out and then they sold games and made uh humongous losses on their spreadsheet and they didn't even play the games that much they didn't enjoy the games nearly enough to take the losses that they took and the little dirty secret about the hobby that we're all in right now gang is that uh there's a thousands of unsold games and one of the show topics I'm going to be discussing over the next few weeks as we think about what do you do with all that unsold inventory something's got to get right this this map pricing model it's again like it's not working like you got these dealers with Venom Lees in box uh I know a dealer that's got a 100 G&R Lees in a box and the the thing is they can't publicly list these games for sale I think the pinball industry needs to more reflect a car dealership where you know a last year's model is discounted right and two years ago even more discounted Guns and Roses is a almost a four year old model of a pinball machine and you know if Jersey Jack is telling dealers you can't advertise G&R for less than 105 but the market value for one is 7500 I think it gets a little silly and then dealers have to have their friends list the games for sale and it's all disingenuous a little bit or dealers have to open up the game and stream it and then sell it used we see that a lot like streaming a game and then you know because they have to because they're not allowed to sell it uh at a discount you know the only company I saw put their games on sale was was AP I mean I mean we we know they need to sell their games and they got to clear out that inventory you know the hard part is like it's because a company that does it I think what what makes them reluctant to do it it's it's admitting that you hand did people a loss so like let's face it like Venom Le was 13,000 it's now like a $99,000 l like new in box you know and I think Stern you know Stern struggles to sort of because if you communicate to the early adopters that they that their game is now worth $4,000 less they're going to have a fear of commitment of buying future titles from you I I think Venom should have only had 350 Lees I also told this to my friends at Stern and I say my friends at Stern because I do think Stern is listening and I think they need to try different stuff I don't think every game should have an Le I I mean that like why why does every game need an Le I get the margins are good this and that but like I don't know like is there demand and if you are GNA do an LA of a game with low demand like John Wick like John Wick a thousand Lees well it's just like a boneheaded move like you you didn't do any market research you just put you know the next title into the same Playbook and thought that the defense wouldn't intercept and and man did the community intercept that move and and destroy the value of John Wick L now Stern making old titles Chad just said this on Facebook I I think you know what we've seen with Metallica I think has people super excited super nervous at the same time I if you own a Tron Le right now and this is what I'm really imploring that George and Seth really think about if you own a Tron Le right now you're you're part of a special Club I believe they only made 400 Tron L I think Tron was 400 not 500 correct me if I'm wrong people I'm pretty good at my pinball history you know I'm pretty good sometimes when I talk to people at Stern I'm like I'm telling them what they did they're like no I don't even think they were numbered yeah they were numbered you know sometimes they say stuff and I'm like do you not know your own product history I think Tron was 400 or was it 500 someone let me know someone here must have one so the the special thing about Tron is when they made Tron Le there was no premium right yeah you gota remember like what what that means it's like this is it like this is it so there was 400 and there was no premium and it had like the fiber optic ramps and it had it had an exclusive daff Punk multiball now think about Sterns since then have they ever given people like a real exclusive gameplay experience in the software for buying an Le and I think that's one of the reasons why Tron Le is so damn like coveted because it's like you either have that experience 400 people on the planet have it and nobody else does and then you go from the Le to the pro and they never screwed over the Le buyers by making premiums you know remember when they did Walking Dead Le and no premium and they said they were never making premiums and then they did remember what that did to The Walking Dead collectors at that time and so if Stern is gonna make another run what I would do if I were them is I would do 400 neutrons I think you got to keep the numbers consistent I think you got to give original owners a chance to have matching number of games I that's how I would do it I wouldn't make a thousand even though the demand is there again just make it special and what Stern can now do as they see The Feeding Frenzy for Metallica I know this is not going to be popular with some people right now but the truth is this Metallica Le could have been more than 13 and they still would have sold everyone and and in a weird way they could have priced it you know even higher uh because it is more special than a John Wick Le or a Venom Le or a James Bond Le and a Foo Fighters Le I I think what they should have done I think what they should have done because now that you've got this you know a a plethora of games at a thousand Lees doesn't 500 become a super Le right just think about that for a minute like 500 now is super Limited in a world where everything else has a thousand and so I think they could have done something like that and I also think you know make it a real SLE of Metallica it should have an exclusive topper it should come with exclusive songs it should come come with stuff that maybe is just not in the premium of the game and I think if you did that and you really made it awesome like that and again like get James or Lars to do a personal call out like are you ready to rock can like they could have done that like they could have done that the way they did it with uh you know Adam West and Batman with unique callouts so when people say please don't encourage higher prices so Josh the the truth is I'm just looking at the market my friend I'm looking at the market and I'm looking at like who buys these things and there there's an opportunity you know and again I look Stern's got to find that Balancing Act you know they don't want to charge too much and remove all the secondhand value um who's who what's the agenda are we buying as an investment or just buying the game we want which is it it can't be both um why not Mark Mark I don't understand that that makes so Mark just said are we buying it as an investment or we buying a game we want it can't be both absolutely it can be both Mark why can't you buy a game you really want play it for a few years and move it on for a lot of money because it was a good investment at the same time you know I really love my Dodge Demon and it's you know it's held value it's gone up a little bit but I'm happy that if I ever need the money right something could happen in life and I need to free up $100,000 I could go sell it versus my friends who just bought electric Porsches and they spent $150,000 on a tyon GTS and now it's worth like 90 they lost $60,000 we both love cars we both love what we're driving but one was just a better investment I I think those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive of each other they should have only made Metallica remastered unlimited no I don't I don't agree Louie I don't agree I don't know why there's such a an anger towards these like collectible versions of things it's healthy for this hobby it's been what's pulled Stern through all these years um Stern shouldn't care about the secondhand value that's not their problem make a game and sell it it's not Stern's problem that people want to make money this isn't the stock market well it's a market though pin baller you know this is a market you know I don't understand why people think this is not an asset it's an asset and when you spend north of $10,000 on anything who doesn't want to get some sort of return on that investment um I think some people you know don't get it well look Trent if you ever take a ride in a Dodge Demon you would understand in a heartbeat why the car is worth $100,000 go go inside a $100,000 BMW Mercedes Audi which you can easily get those cars north of 100K and you won't even have half the thrill of driving a Dodge Demon just trust me man anyone there's an ignorance in the car world that the Dodge Demon isn't worth the money and then I take people for rides and I'm talking about people who have Exotics who have rolls-royces Ferraris Lamborghinis they get it like they get it um you know it's it's a special vehicle and if you're a car Enthusiast you you know how to appreciate what each company is is putting on the table if Stern allowed dealers to Discount models after years does that affect the standard production quantities um I don't know I don't know I don't I think not I think um you know I I think there's um there's a there's a Title Wave coming where there's just so many games in boxes sitting in a warehouse in Chicago where where are those games going to go I mean that's the question I'm just curious like where are they going to go who are they going to go to and when that does happen and we oversaturate the market uh I think it's going to be a pretty rough period and you know like I think people are just out of room I don't know about you guys but like I'm out of room already I got maybe room for one more pin upstairs I could probably sneak one into the garage but how many of you like rais of hands are just out of room right you need to sell a game to bring a new one in and that's probably more of the issue for people than money uh absolutely uh and it's harder for operators to make money with games costing so much so it's an interesting time in Pinball it's an interesting time in pinball I I I'll say this as I get older and hopefully a little bit wiser and I realize some of the mistakes of of a younger version of me I I'm sort of sort I'm sort of over the whole collecting and having just stuff to flex and thinking that you know I don't know when I see all these guys with less than 200 plays on a game that's been out for like six seven years I I don't I don't get it I don't get it you know I drive my car I play all my Neo GEOS uh even the Neo GEOS I bought too many of them I don't need three four of them you know I started to collect all the different abs and then I didn't care anymore because the community that loves Neo Geo they're all bitter a-holes anyway like they just they they come at you with jealousy envy and hate like legitimately I tried to sell my sc19 which is the bigger version of this for like $6,500 and everyone on Facebook is telling me I'm an idiot I'm a that's too much you know it's too much for it and I've got a guy in Kuwait that wants to wire me $11,000 for it I just don't want to sell it to someone in Kuwait and DHL shipping and Customs I don't want to sell it like that because if anything happens to it and then he does like a charge back through like eBay and then the eBay fees and then and then what I've got this busted up unit and I'm gonna have to deal with I want someone to pull up here with cash in hand and put it in the back of their truck and take it home and enjoy it that's that who keeps saying we love Trump like this is not this is a weird is this like a Spam let's get um Trent Briggs verified who Trent you're going we're moderating you okay let's um we're gonna put you on a timeout for 10 minutes because this isn't like a political page this is a a pinball chat vote for who you want people I think we're kind of in trouble maybe a little bit either way um it just is what it is all right so let's let's read the names let's get them in the Hat let's read the names I want to say congratulations to everybody that followed the rules I told you how to do it it was very simple um I'm just gonna say this let's let's just go down and read all the names and then I'm going to cut them up and we're going to put them in the Hat how's that sound all right all right so here are your contestants for The Metallica limited edition it is this game is coming from I will connect you with how to get this game afterwards I'm waiting for Killian to pull the name out of the hat at 11 o'clock tent tentatively if he's home by then I will use Brenda's phone to call the winner they you know and we're gonna do it that way it's gonna be fun I'm not even going to announce the winner I'm gonna call the number first so we can announce the name live as he or she picks up I don't think there's a single woman on this list as I always say women are too smart to drop $113,000 on pinball machines um did I say anything about Back to the Future I already talked about it a little bit um Jersey Jack and Stern obviously would love to make the game I think that um I think Stern would be the smarter move I think Stern can make thousands of them in a year Jersey Jack couldn't and I think someone like elwin would make it can you let me think about it gang would wouldn't would you not want Keith Elwin to make Back to the Future who at Jersey Jack would make a better game than Keith Elwin and look it's all going to come up to Barry now and I think there's a combination of like humbleness versus ego versus reality check for Barry uh I I don't know if he wants to be the designer and be pinball Famous by making Back to the Future I don't think he's as good as Keith Elwin and I do think that um you know if Barry were smart he'd ink a good deal make money on every game sold it's a win-win win for everybody right everybody wins that way so I just think um I think that would be the way I would do it but it's all it's in his court it's in his court I know that every company would love to have the license all right so we got Robert I'm gonna read the names Robert cachini hopefully I'm saying your names right Joe fiori Jim Bond who's in Tokyo see I got to see like gang uh you International guys like I don't know if they can ship intern Al I know Hector is on there internationally uh so we'll have to figure this out but I didn't I didn't exclude anybody who was not in the uh who was Global all right so like there's that I don't I don't know if there's anyone on here from Australia so we've got Jerry Benny Richard Harris mlin Kevin SME smeen Steve Dobbins Tyson Hoffman Brian Mard Chris greeney Zack B champ bu Camp Keith galacy if I butchered your names people sorry I mean it's Glenn Hansen Ryan Heath um Adam Greer Hector castron castron Hector Patrick SES Willie mid ml Ray gari Nick San Mike Don Ryan Dexter Lawrence LaVine Adam fr Salone Pete Rosen pav P Jay Maguire Dean hinr T Tom Pletcher Mike wait wait do we have two Hendrickson I thought I just said Henrickson hold on no heinrikson oh there there's two different names there's a hin rson and an hin Rex sen different area codes sound familiar but they're spelled differently all right Dana Martin Enzo Venta Greg Jones Pete Mayo will wear Ben Delong Kevin Peterson Troy Swope Craig Roth Jeff epner bandari nahii Anthony Salo Ryan Scott Sanders Rodney kis KES sorry Rodney it's not it doesn't off the tongue Jason rfta Chris Chapman and Marty Robbins no Marty Robbins is not on this list Marty Robbins is uh watching a movie right now doing AOK I can't believe I mean it's funny to me it is funny to me that um that that whole thing is trying to unfold and it's not fooling anybody um you know obviously he knew what was going on with haggus when he was chilling the centaurs and I I just love all the revisionist history the whitewashing of it and you know as I I literally just the reason why I did the show I did about it this week is you don't get to do that you just don't get to like mislead people when you should have known better and you did know better and then just get like you know forgiven and you get to come back and enjoy the Hobby and just act like you were just an employee that didn't know what was going on and I think what Jeff called All of Us was really unprofessional uncalled for and I think it just shows the true nature of some of these gentlemen I think they have tremendous egos I think they're very uh entitled and I think they're very angry and I think they think they're better than us I I really do when you call people unintelligent fads if you think Marty like had had anything to do with like the haggis's like collapse or or knowingly misled people come on man did a show for a year where Marty dodged every single question about haggus and not only that he laughed in the face of people that were concerned about haggas pinball and their ability to manufacture games I I think they do live in a bubble and you know I I again just had to call it like I saw it because it's um it's not cool and it just was a stupid show to do it's like if you want Marty to come back just come come back and let him talk for himself but to insult everybody as a way to you know sort of pave the way for his return like I don't know Jeff man that that wasn't smart Craig Roth why do you want to join the video right now you're not joining I'm not having a guest on right now okay makes so sad no one's joining no one's joining all right let me cut these names up as we talk and everyone's going into the Hat everyone has equal opportunity to win I'm excited for each and every one of you um you know 46 of you are going to lose so um it is what it is I don't know any other way to do this I thought this was the most fair thing to do people gave me slack for even doing this gang like I they're literally like it's a marketing stun you're not doing any like come on like no good deed goes unpunished in the pinball Hobby People and I really do mean it when I say it I think there's a lot of really awesome people in pinball and then I think there's a lot of really I don't know like strange people in our hobby that really do hide behind a keyboard and just insult and you know we don't know who they are they're they're kind of behind their avatar names and you know they don't really stand in front of their vitriol and you know it gets a little tiring dealing with it and I think um you know there's no room for that anymore and I think if if you kind of approach your life as like how many days can I wake up in a good mood um you're not going to wake up and and you know curse people out on pinball forums and and all that stuff now that being said if we're unintelligent feds because we think that you know one of two employees the guy I want to talk to is that duck pinball guy you know all those employees that quit haggus they quit the company they knew it was going on you know then then why didn't Marty quit I mean that's really the easiest question if if you if everyone else saw that the house was on fire and exited the house why didn't you no you you stayed you you promoted the company you you convinced people to spend more money when everybody else was quitting okay George Gomez is in the house I told George to join George welcome to the Metallica ell sort of offer to a fan out there to get one at MSRP George welcome to the party and George you're right no good deed goes unpunished I think sometimes too with all of all of what happens in pinball and I mean this when I say it when when you take the tour of stern and Jersey Jack and these you see what goes into these games and you see the people that make them and the amount of work and the amount of effort and and then how easy it is right how easy it is to unravel the the Joy this hobby brings everybody uh because you're at home and you're unhappy and you're probably drinking and you're typing angrily uh it's weird right it's weird I think it makes everybody especially at the pinball companies sort of you know reluctant to engage as much as they want to I remember walking through Stern and it was the day after you know Jack danger had done the initial stream of X-Men and he was kind of all bummed out and because they had done the stream they were having fun with it they dressed up in X-Men costumes and they were having some brutal games and the code was still early and you it's just like you know it wasn't the best showing and then Jack is just like deflated because he realized like you know people are not seeing like what the magic is and the magic is there and so you know but he he just had this look like he was just just destroyed and I'm like man like what like what like this is this is your moment like you know and and I can see how the community at times can can weigh people down to the point where the very people that are giving everything they have to making people happy are are just exhausted and and feeling like they never win so so it it's something interesting for all of us to think about and I look I I struggle with this all the time on this show I think my shows been an Ever evolving Journey you know to give constructive criticism or feedback uh and I think when you do give constructive feedback it's delivered without curses without personal attacks uh and I think when you when you give constructive feedback you it's it's it should be clear that you're giving this feedback on the game because you want to see the games get better and you have a thought on how they could possibly improve the games or the marketing around pinball right I have a lot of thoughts on that I have a lot of thoughts on you know these Lees and and again I but when you approach it where you're trying to help you know I want Jersey Jack games to get better by integrating the Clips in a better way we know it can be done right Stern did it with jaws wise Avatar all muted right and and I mean that like I'm not I I really like Mark siden I think he's a great guy I'm just perplexed how nobody gave that feedback internally over there but I'm not going to blame like or be angry I just just not the way I would have done it all right so we've got all these names George going into a hat um you know this is this is the hottest game in pinball in a long time I think Metallica Ellie Metallica Ellie is the hottest launch I've seen since Godzilla uh when Godzilla came out a little history lesson for all of you out there it was $10,500 right George George cover your ears how was Stern able to make that gay with all that stuff for 10,500 and John Wick with half as much in it is $2500 more um but see you know it was like it was kind of like that that last 105 game and it was like awesome I mean it's not just me saying this Godzilla is ranked on the top 100 as number one right so the number one game of all time ranked by the community uh came out at a great price uh and you know like we used to complain 10K by Christmas remember when that was the joke now it's like 18K by Christmas with this Metallica so it's like it it came out at 105 they made a thousand of them they sold out no it wasn't impossible to get one like you could when when they make a thousand you can call around and get one um but here's what happened to Godzilla that was right before covid remember when when the lockdown happened right and the supply shortage happened Godzilla instantly like within a few months a Godzilla Ellie after we realized oh my gosh this game is everything like it's got the moment it's got the assets it's got the personality it's got the mechs it's got the humor it's got you know the mod community's gone crazy like it it was amazing to watch how everyone rallied around Godzilla right rallied around the game I think the only like controversy at launch was does Godzilla look like a watermelon and maybe a little bit maybe zombie Yeti don't kill me maybe a little bit maybe a little bit water melony but you know we all got over that because it just looked great and when you stood over a Godzilla and you played it I think it reminded everybody what they love so much about pinball and it had personality the way you you could change the audio to be in Japanese the like it just Godzilla is just perfect it is a perfect example of translating a theme into a pinball game where there's like George you always used to say this there's got to be like three interesting things to shoot at it has that it's got to have like you know call outs that get your energy going it has that when a multiball starts it has like this energy right and I you know like when Avatar multiball starts gag it's like you literally are like I I feel like I'm in church I I feel like when they're like Hallelujah Mountain multiball it's like there's no energy there's no energy everyone should go study how Adam's family and Metallica uh sort of get you going you need help I do need help Killian all right here we go k we've got five minutes though give me five minutes and then you're going to pick the winning name out of this Canada hat and I'm gonna call the number and here's how it's gonna work you need to pick up the phone to win this spot right not the game I'm not buying you a game for $113,000 you will win this spot I know there was some confusion there um not g to give you a free game but this is g to be super fun and Killian is to be the decider of somebody's fate and gang look I hope whoever wins this I just want to say this I hope you don't sell it I hope you really entered this because you are a Metallica fan and I want to say thank you to everyone that reached out and shared your personal stories about Metallica some of you had babies wearing Metallica clothing you had game rooms filled with Metallica artwork and you know you really are in love with the band and I think that to me is how every music pin should be right it's like I always say this like out of all the pinball machines that have been made over the last like 10 years music fans have really had it the best I mean if you love ACDC Guns and Roses Metallica if you love Foo Fighters if you love Elton John if you love Iron Maiden you know if you love uh what am I miss I said ACDC like if you love I mean heck kiss I even think Aerosmith like talk about an awesome toy in a game like if you love those acts you love the pinball machines and and the thing about music pins that I think make it easier to get you know to get it right is because the the one thing you just have to do is play the damn music right it's not like stuff physically is missing that you want it in the game where a movie and TV show is different because when you make a like a pinball machine based on a movie there's like physical things you want to see in there so if you make Back to the Future you got to have a DeLorean where the doors go up right or the clock tower you got to have a hoverboard you got to have maybe a Pepsi perfect coming up from underneath the Playfield uh you know you there's certain things where like oh if it doesn't have this it's not connecting to the theme the right way but music just hit him with it and then do fun stuff killing you getting ready buddy hold on we got we got three minutes to go mama I need your phone and then we're going to do this I'm cutting up all the names and we're almost got everybody in the Hat you know I think one of the coolest you know when I when I look at guns and roses and slashes involvement with that game it's absolutely like it's a it's a rare thing and I tell this to people you know slash made this game hold on don't touch any of the names buddy I don't want killing you why do you have mittens on here come on buddy I'm G to get you up here we're gonna we're going to interview for you for a littleit okay are you ready to talk you want to tell Mr Gomez what you think about his Le his Le uh hold on gang we got four more to cut up then we're gonna get killing in on the lap Brandon can I have the phone please don't don't touch don't touch kilan I like your gloves your mittens okay is it this everybody okay okay so I want you guys to see this all the names are going in oh I just knocked that over all right here we go we're back what all the names going in okay the names buddy are gon to go into the hat and we're gonna pick Bren is handing me her phone all the names are going in okay so we're gonna drop them all in I'm gonna move it around and we're going to let Killian pick one out I wish I could give 47 people a Metallica Le I I you know George we'll talk I I think Stern doing a lottery like this would be a lot of fun and I think it would be a moment I think you make the stern Lottery you get you get set there and Gary George with the big everyone gets a you know their name on a ball and we pull out like 10 names like make it like an you know like an NBA draft lottery where you're in the draft and we can figure out different ways where you can increase the amount of odds of winning I think it'd be a lot of fun all right K here we go you ready I don't know why my boy has um it is 11 o'clock we're not missing any names come here come on sit up here stop it okay stop it yeah all right klian how much how much do you think a pinball machine should cost uh one $1 Okay Okay so we've just put Stern Pinball and everybody else out of business Killian do you like Metallica okay that's good that's good all right Killian um you're going to pick out of your hat this Canada hat you're GNA pick a name all right now I want you to we're g to move the names around I'm not looking I'm not looking all right all right I want you to pick I want one one fell out good job Brenda put it back in one fell out all right okay ready all right okay all right here we go one just pick one just one okay don't don't show me who it is all right we have we have one in hand all right now we are going to call Killian I want you when I call this number to say you won okay can you do that all right we're gonna call right now taking Mommy's phone this is fun right it's fun this this um you know Killian doesn't come cheap his hourly rate is about 10 times mine he he brings a level of of adorableness to this and um we're gonna see if we have a winner he just loving his own reflection right now all right okay here we go okay what you gonna say say you won Mr President you won oh thank you very much I'm so all right all right so our winner I know 46 people right now are like staring at their cell phones pav P Pabo p p congratulations congratulations now Pao where are you from I want the p pa where are you where you from don't scream okay do where you from PA I am from Delaware okay and are you a big Metallica fan huge absolutely huge I am for k k care um are you okay so tell us like have you been a Metallica fan since the 80s 90s what's your what's your how much do you love them I love Metallica As much as the next guy I uh I saw Metallica back in the late 80s I didn't even really know who they were all right what's your favorite album uh because I was nothing but a pop guy at the time it wasn't until everyone hated him yeah I was like I love this guys I feel like the the Black Album right with ENT Sam man was like what 91 and that was really when like the old fan base was sort of like they're selling out with more you know mainstream hits but that's I think when a lot of people like just fell in love with the band well paabo here's the deal congrat you're GNA keep this game right you're not GNA flip it you're not going to scalp it right okay so we're gonna check in Pavo we're gonna check in every like six months and just want to see a photo of it in that game room how does that sound all right all right and I will paa um I will connect with you after this and I'll get you all the details on how to you know get the game paid for and sent to you but uh congratulations um and thank you for everyone who participated in this drawing um again I wish I had more games to give away to all of you but we'll we'll keep doing this this is a lot of fun and then you're not going to back out because the last time we did this was James Bond ell and everybody backed out but this is this is good this is good K paavo I'm happy we can make your Saturday morning a special one I skipped the gym for this oh all right well go go hit the gym now and play some Metallica hit it hard yeah I always say like if people did as many push-ups as words they posted on pinside this whole hobby would be ripped like it it it's just it's amazing to me all right paa well thank you very much I'm I'm super excited for you and I can't wait for you to get the game well thank you thank you Killian Killian say thank you thank you you say you're welcome okay see you Pabla all right thanks all right all right well that was great you know look I'm I'm I feel like I want to like should I give one other number give a t-shirt I don't even have T-shirts to give I have no more merchandise they took all my merchandise down um look pav I'm super happy for you for all of you who are in the running thank you for sharing your stories of Metallica I know everybody give me this baby hold on a second there's one more get get here we go okay okay see this Sweet Child of Mine is the future you know I keep telling this to everybody this is the future of pinball are the people with children who are G to get bit by the pinball bug right I mean you're G to play Pinball right yeah of course you're G to play Pinball his head looks like a pinball it is completely round and it it's absolutely adorable are you doing all right he's so chill like he's the easy one you know on on it's it's Killian that's like all the energy and making everything go nuts in our house every day all right all right sweet child the Mind see he's got his guns and roses t-shirt on all get him out of here get him out of there we go there the future of pinball podcasting right there right there um everybody look I'm super happy that we did this I I I'm thankful too that a lot of you sort of helped me see clearly why flipping the game was not the right thing to do and you know like it's gonna happen look if there weren't scalpers gang there' be no chance for some of you to get the game once it does sell out so you know when you look at the price of a Taylor Swift concert ticket you know you know paying a few thousand over for this masterpiece of a game isn't so bad um I think there's a lot of um a lot of good momentum coming out of this game and and I think you know the whole hobby has gone like you know in it's gone in different directions over Co I think we're all back now we're all kind of I think appreciating life on a new level now that we've through the pandemic uh if you've been to shows I highly recommend going to a show it's a lot different uh for those of you who went to Expo toward the different manufacturers met the community the amount of good energy and Good Vibes that were coming out of that show I don't know it it made me feel re-energized about pinball and I know it made a lot of you feel that same way and I do encourage everybody you know just tune down the forums you know a lot of noise and Echo chamber happening on pinside that I don't think is really reflective of the positivity that's in this hobby now don't get me wrong I'm this isn't some like spreading pinball positivity show it never will like I am gonna call it as I see it like there are good games and there are bad games and there's good quality and there's bad quality and there's real talent in pinball and then there's I think just some people figuring it out as they go um everybody look we we've we've had a really fun show I kind of want to end it on a high note thank you Mr Gomez for hanging out thank you for all the work you do over at Stern Pinball um and thank you to all the manufacturers that actually give us enough to discuss right without games coming out what would we talk about right we we'd still be like if it wasn't for these guys we' we'd be talking about Hep restored theater of magics and how much is it going to go up like you know I I know like there's there's a lot of new stuff happening in pinball that is so exciting we've got Spike three around the corner got Harry Potter coming We've Got Back to the Future coming we've got maybe King Kong maybe Fallout right I love speculating what's around the corner because even when you know like what some of these themes are you you still it gets your imagination going and I mean this when I say it you know in a world of genz kids that are all lonely and miserable and not happy it's because they're not imagining stuff they're not dreaming of things they're not in Hobbies they're just looking at vapid content all day long that does nothing to make them feel a part of something and I always say this like this community is the Elixir to the number one problem in the world which is loneliness like that is the pandemic that a generation is struggling with and as long as we have these products and each other I never feel alone in pinball in like at any hour I I can hang out with people from all over the world whether we Skype or we do this yeah you put up a message on a patreon chat and people are in it um yeah buddy okay he put some more stuff in a hat these are just blank pieces of paper thank you buddy for more letters okay thank you for the more letters I appreciate that um so everybody have a great day um I love doing this thank you for all the support all you club members you know who you are um and if you're not a member of the can Club you know we would love to have you it's $5 a month I just went and got two bags of Dunkin' Donuts ground coffee beans for $20 that's a third of the year of canadi spinball podcast everybody be good we'll talk to you soon and again congrats the pav um I will what are you doing what are you doing um have a great Saturday and go Yankees what a what a devastating loss last night I'm up all night watching it great game we just had to close out the bottom of the tent and that grand slam all right everything's in there good good job everybody Canada out see you guys be good happy Saturday enjoy this fall day bye oh that note sweetheart please don't thr it around K listen to me please put it down listening yours please Mommy needs to clean the outside of it because it's absolutely disgracefully dirty and Mommy needs to clean casses need tolean your too I know that great thank you Budd almost it's almost time for a nap honey is it time's napping today it's okay it's super super happy super super heavy Daddy I SC