DPP #244 "Toppers and Museum Field Trips"

Don's Pinball Podcast (regular feed)·podcast_episode·23m 16s·analyzed·Jun 9, 2026

Analysis

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TL;DR

Topper design analysis, Spooky factory work, and upcoming game speculations

Summary

Don discusses recent experiences with toppers across Stern and other manufacturers, comparing design philosophies (moving head vs static). He details his hands-on involvement building a Beetlejuice machine at Spooky Pinball factory and his new role as a docent. He also speculates on upcoming releases including Sonic, Cirqus Voltaire, Fifth Element, and Pedretti, while expressing frustration with Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in Wonderland fulfillment and topper delays.

Key Claims

Transformers topper features two degrees of motion (head turning and mask moving up/down)
high confidence · Don describing what he saw at Northwest The Pinball Show seminar
Transformers topper MSRP is approximately $1,799-$1,800 plus tax
medium confidence · Don speculating on pricing based on other Stern toppers
D&D topper has not yet been released despite game being available
high confidence · Don directly stating 'There's no Dungeons & Dragons topper released yet'
Sonic pinball is expected to release within 1-3 weeks from episode recording
medium confidence · Don stating 'since I know we're one week, two weeks, three weeks at the most away from this game coming out'
Sonic topper will feature a moving head design
medium confidence · Don asking rhetorically 'what's that going to be like?' about moving Sonic head topper
Sonic playfield leaked with eight shots visible on main level
high confidence · Don discussing an unpopulated playfield leak he received
Fifth Element by Pinball Brothers is confirmed for release
medium confidence · Don: 'Pinball Brothers...supposed to have Fifth Element'
Cirqus Voltaire remaster has been teased since Texas Pinball Festival
high confidence · Don discussing Cirqus Voltaire being shown and teased at multiple locations
Spooky Pinball is producing Beetlejuice machines at full capacity
high confidence · Don: 'they're churning full blast now, kicking out these Beetlejuices as quick as they can'
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in Wonderland toppers are still delayed for early pre-orderers
high confidence · Don: 'there's still people that have gotten their Alice's Adventures in Wonderland games, have not got the toppers yet'

Notable Quotes

“I like the moving head toppers. I think they're kind of cool...I like these moving head toppers better than, you know, back in the day when we're talking about like the Beatles topper, come on, the Beatles topper, where it's just, you know, plastics and lights.”
Don @ early-middle — Establishes Don's clear aesthetic preference for motion-based topper design over static designs
“Optimus Prime moving around. It looks like he's got two degrees of motion. It looked like the mask was going up and down, the heads turning back and forth. It's a full degree more than we got on Foo Fighters which was another rotating head topper.”
Don @ early — Technical breakdown of Transformers topper motion capabilities, comparing to prior Stern topper designs
“I'm a docent, man. How cool is that? Like, full circle. I was the fourth and sixth grader who was acting up when we were going through the science museum...And now it's come full circle. Now I am the docent.”
Don @ middle — Personal reflection on his new informal role at Spooky Pinball factory; indicates deep community integration
“These aren't just ramps that you pull out of a box and put on the playfield. These things are assembled by hand. The radiuses in the metal are bent like by hand...I feel like I'm making artisan muffins over here.”
Don @ middle — Detailed insight into handcrafted manufacturing at Spooky; highlights artisanal production approach
“So like I joke that I done the Stern tour so many times that I could probably give the tour myself and I been around the Spooky Factory enough that I literally do give the tours now”
Don @ middle — Don's deep access to multiple manufacturer facilities; establishes credibility as insider observer
“I don't like it. I kind of like Beatles, but not a ton, and I know people really like that game. I like Munsters, and most people hate it. I think it's all okay.”
Don @ late — Don defending his subjective game preferences against accusations of bias/shilling; establishes independence

Entities

DonpersonElizabethpersonSteve Ritchieperson Melvinperson Brian AllenpersonStern PinballcompanySpooky PinballcompanyJersey Jack Pinballcompany

Signals

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product_strategy: Stern appears committed to moving-head topper designs (Transformers, Black Knight SOR, Foo Fighters) versus static toppers (Godzilla, Jaws, Venom), with community divided on preference but Don noting motion-based designs receive better reception
high · Don compares multiple Stern topper designs across recent releases, noting community criticism of static options and praise for moving designs
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manufacturing_signal: Spooky Pinball is producing Beetlejuice at full capacity, faster than publicly communicated, managing new worker training carefully to avoid disrupting output
high · Don: 'they're churning full blast now, kicking out these Beetlejuices as quick as they can and it's coming a lot faster than what they're letting on'
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product_concern: Dutch Pinball's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland experiencing delayed topper fulfillment; early pre-orderers still waiting while new orders shipped with toppers; unclear if Back to the Future loyalty agreement still valid
high · Don: 'there's still people that have gotten their Alice's Adventures in Wonderland games, have not got the toppers yet. New people are getting their games delivered with the topper'
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rumor_hype: Strong community speculation about June release wave: likely Circus Voltaire (Chicago Gaming) plus possible Pinball Brothers title (Fifth Element or other), with Sonic Stern release dominating summer anticipation
medium · Don hearing rumors of June releases, speculating Circus Voltaire most likely, Sonic expected imminently
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leak_detection: Sonic pinball playfield image leaked unpopulated; shows eight shots on main level but no rule details; Don discouraging further leaks given proximity to official release

Transcript

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We'll be right back. And I feel like I want a podcast. Whoa, whoa. Come on. We don't need any singing now. What's up, everybody? It's Don's Pinball Podcast. I'm having a smashing good week here in Monday. Started the new job. So far, so good. Having a blast with my new friends in orientation. All of my little new coworkers, man. I was having a discussion about the Matterhorn at Disneyland, some Cedar Point coasters with this anesthesiologist dude sitting next to me. It was super fun today, but I'm glad I'm back in the arcade here. I got Cheryl's topper looking at me. I got to get her up on top of there. And then where are we at right now, if not in the land of topper discussion when it comes to Transformers? Out of nowhere, Northwest Pinball Show, the first public location for this game to be played. And hey-o, what did we see at a seminar but a completely unexpected hero's video of the Transformers topper? Do you know there's no Dungeons & Dragons topper released yet? There's no Pokemon topper released yet? But we got us some Transformers, and I'm here to say that much like the game, I kind of like it. I like it. Hell, I'm sure there's more technologically diverse toppers that have existed. I'm sure this thing's probably going to be $1,800, $1,799 plus tax MSRP delivered directly to you from Stern Pinball's headquarters. But it looks okay, man. It looks like it's Optimus Prime's head. And then, you know, I'm starting to hear this from people like, oh, here we go again. Black Knight Sword of Rage, Foo Fighters topper, re-skinned, Ingenuity is dead, Stern Pinball's beating the dead horse, they're just doing heads looking around. And that got me to thinking, yeah, I mean, they have had the return of the moving head topper, right? Black Knight Sword of Rage, Fall of the Empire. But then I put that up against other toppers that we've seen released. I'm talking about Rush. I'm talking about Godzilla. I'm talking about X-Men. And wouldn't you know it, there was some voices in the community that were upset with them too. So I went and looked and I came up with a category of like the moving head toppers versus the other ones. I just want to recap them real quick and you tell me what you would prefer for your add-on $2,000 accessory that's completely unnecessary and unlocks new amazing code and one-to-one interactive lighting effects and in some cases motion to the top of your Stern pinball machine and let me know what you think. Let's get at this. Let's get at this. We got Optimus Prime moving around. It looks like he's got two degrees of motion. It looked like the mask was going up and down, the heads turning back and forth. It's a full degree more than we got on Foo Fighters which was another rotating head topper. Probably the most expensive one that's come out. Of course we've got Black Knight Sword of Rage. You know the one with the two degrees of freedom, Black Knight moving around up there. Steve Ritchie taunting you in his Shao Kahn voice straight out of Mortal Kombat. You know your boy had to get one of them. And then we got what else we got that's got a moving head. A little C-3P over here. I got him on my 2017 Ritchie Star Wars. He doesn't say a damn thing. The lights kind of count down the multiplier. He moves around a lot. His servos are super loud, and that's about it. He is pretty cool on Fall of the Empire. So I'm thinking of actually offering him up for sale at a couple hundred dollar discount if you want to get a C-3PO topper on top of your Fall of the Empire, where it interacts much better than it does in the 2017. I want to put my dual deck topper that I got from Electric Playground on mine. So if you want to save a couple hundred bucks, you want to get that extra mode, let me know, donspinballpodcastgmail.com. We'll cut a couple hundred bucks off of it. I'll put it in the same damn box it shipped to me in and I'll ship it straight to your door. Woo! So we got all those toppers, right? And put them against the other recent ones that we've seen. X-Men had its rotating 3D billboard, not unlike the one that still sits on Highway 192 in Kissimmee, Florida, advertising, I think, a Chinese buffet and then Epic Universe. And then like a Spider-Man ride from 1997 is still on there with billboard technology. Speaking of billboard, Jaws came out with, again, the one-to-one integrated light show, but it was essentially just the billboard from Amity. There was nothing moving on this topper. Similarly, Venom didn't have anything moving at all. Venom gave you an extra character. You had to play as Ghost Rider, or was it Ghostface? Which one is the one from Wu-Tang, and which one is the one from the comic books? And then it had an LCD screen there. We've seen LCD screens on Mandalorian. Everybody complained about that, mainly because of the price. I can't even read my own writing here. Munsters, of course, low production, so high price on that one. Had a little bit of motion with the cuckoo bird that would come out, which was kind of cool. Rush had some moving plastic gears. Like, you get it. Stranger Things was just static with some lighting effects. Cool little, not holographic, but infinity mirror effect. But when it comes to these toppers, do we just complain about every stern topper that comes out? But it seems to me that the ones that are accepted more by the community are the ones with motion, where something's happening. Not just Godzilla with the static plume, but actual motion that's up there. I like the moving head toppers. I think they're kind of cool. When I made a Sentinel head topper for X-Men, it was the shoulders of the Sentinel and the head. The head moved It wasn motorized but that could be added to it I not able to do the one lighting effects and things That why it was only a couple hundred bucks But like I dig it when there motion up there and a head looking around Let look at what some other companies are doing when it comes to their toppers Barrels of Fun on Labyrinth gave us three heads Two of them moved Oh super cool Love that topper I like this better than what I seen from Stern given these were like full realistic sculpts A spooky pinball is giving us Cheryl, arguably one of the best toppers of the modern age. We just got the Beetlehead topper, Snakehead Beetlejuice. And of course he moves left and right and there's even a microphone that comes with him and on and on and on. So let me know, what do you think an appropriate topper for your pinball machine would be? Do you want to go back to the days of Deadpool when it was just a flat plastic and a rotating thumb? Do you want to go back to the days of Jurassic Park where it's just kind of lights and plastic and they still charge us a lot of money? Or do you like the multiple degrees of freedom of some kind of head that's up there? I kind of dig the Transformers one. I like the coloring on him. He looks animated. Matches the one, the chicken dance optimist that's in the game field. And if I was to come up with my own Transformers topper, I'd probably do something like this. Just kind of find an upper torso of a nice 3D mod, put him up there, have his head up there, moving around, maybe throw a servo in it. I don't know. Get it moving. The R2-D2 topper did kind of the similar thing anyway. I like these moving head toppers better than, you know, back in the day when we're talking about like the Beatles topper, come on, the Beatles topper, where it's just, you know, plastics and lights. So I kind of dig this. What I wasn't expecting, though, was for them to just drop this. So obviously it must be that Hasbro is a super easy license to work with or is really in on this or maybe just nobody's, you know, higher than their, have an overinflated sense of self-worth or something. You know, like we're the Pokemon company. It's like we need to go through layers and layers of meetings and approvals and this guy's got to prove it and it's going to go back and forth in Japan. And maybe that's why it happened sooner. Does not at all explain why we still don't have our Mimic Topper for Dungeons and Dragons. We know the accessories for D&D. We know they're going to have some dragons cut in the side blade armor. We know that the shooter rod's a D20. Will it light up? Will it not light up? We know that the topper's a Mimic Chest. So like where is that at? I don't know. So all eyes are on Stern there. LEs of Transformers still available. I'm kind of counting on that going into the future given the climate that we're in, right? Given the fact that it's also summertime, sales seem to slow down again. However, there is a building bunch of enthusiasm for some games that have not been confirmed, some games that have not been released, some games that have not even really been teased yet, and everybody's kind of like sitting on their lump of money like Transformers, I can go and get that at absolutely any time. The longer I wait, the less I'm going to spend. What about is Barrels of Fun ready to drop something? What about Pinball Brothers? I know they're done with Predator. They're supposed to have Fifth Element. For a lot of people, that's a take my money now. I don't care who's making it short of Home Pin. So we've got that out there. Sonic is about to release at any moment now. I guess we could talk about that. I'm starting to hear more and more leaks, rumors, and things. I'm not seeing pictures or anything. But, you know, someone was mentioning that there's inline drop targets. They were mentioning it's the magnetic accelerator from Richie's 2017 Star Wars, which I absolutely love. One of my favorite gameplay mechanisms in any game that I have, let alone in the modern era. I love the fact that that's coming back. And if that's racing through a loop as well, my goodness, man, my goodness. Like, you don't have to hype up this game anymore for me. I already have blue LED lights in my game room. Like, I'm ready for this. Show me the glitter. Show me the awesome topper. We have a moving Sonic head on top of that. What's that going to be like? Oh, man. But at this point, since I know we're one week, two weeks, three weeks at the most away from this game coming out, I kind of don't want any leaks right now. I don't think I need any leaks. Let me know. Are you guys wanting more? Or at this point, since we're just weeks away from release, let's get hit with that freshness, that big drop and reveal of everything. I think at this point, that's what I would like. Four months ago, yeah, dude, I loved getting leaks. The play field leaked out. That was super cool. It was kicked around the internet. Finally showed up in my inbox. Unpopulated, of course. And all that does is tell us that there's eight shots on the main level, but who knows what else is in the game, right? Like, at this point, don't leak it to me. Don't leak it to me. I just want to see it when it's revealed. And then I'm already on a list or two, so I should be able to get an early one of these if I want. I'm already hearing tell of towards the end of the month. There's some locations that are already talking about different events. I think one of them's in the Midwest, another one's in the desert south, or southwest. So I'll travel out there for those if that comes to fruition. My hope is that the game will be available to play in Chicago at or around the time of launch. Still haven't heard any confirmation at all of anything. So I don't know when it's coming out. I'm not under NDA. I honestly don't know. And part of me is okay with that because, again, the reveal is so much fun with the new game when it doesn't leak out. I'd almost wish that some of these could really be sat on until it's time to release. Winchester caught us off guard. It was super fun and exciting. I really want to see where this fifth element game is. Hearing some strong rumors that not only Sonic is coming out this month, but there's another June release. And at first I was excited because I'm like, this could be the Pinball Brothers release, man. We could get in on this in the ground floor. Pinball Brothers may be kind of slower to build, slower to get games out. Of course, it's coming international. So it behooves you, if you want one of their games, to order early. So you're at the head of the list there, not months and months down the road. But then I started thinking, where's Circus Voltaire? This was a Texas Pinball Festival. This was March. It's June. They were teasing this game We seen at the Lodi show the Lodi Pinball Exposition the Golden State Pinball Festival in California we saw one of the distributors had a poster or banner saying that there was 795 or whatever these are going to be made Like, how much more confirmation can we get that this game's coming out without actually knowing, like, is this game coming out? You know, I think more people at this point have played Cuphead than have played the Circus Voltaire remaster. And this is a game from the 90s, man. Where the heck is this at? So in all likelihood, the June release is probably going to be that, and that's not terribly exciting. And so it's going to be all the easier to walk over and get yourself a Sonic for the summer. The Summer of Sonic, man. I think that's what's going to happen here. We're waiting for our Beetlejuices to come in. We're waiting for our Winchester Mystery Houses. In the meantime, we can jump on a Sonic and then go play Transformers down the street at your friend's house or at the location or whatever. Summer of Sonic. I think it's definitely possible if the game can deliver. I can't wait to see that blue sparkle, man. I can't wait to see the blue sparkle. Also on the horizon, Pedretti, right? So we got Pinball Brothers, Pedretti. There was another P1, P3. Could be them as well. Totan, weren't they making that? Didn't they announce that? Hasn't Brian Allen been teasing that nonstop on Facebook? Like, where the hell's this game at? Like, this is another remake, another European remake coming out of the Euro Pinball Corp, the same factory that's going to be making Fifth Element with Pinball Brothers because they're both in cahoots out there. So if Pinball Brothers doesn't drop their new title now, I think we're going to have to wait, what, eight months until Totans are finished and off the line until they can get back in there and make something else? My goodness. Well, I guess I'll console myself with Sonic then at this point. I think if I'm looking at what I need to get next, what game's going to have the most hype, what game's going to come code correct at launch, and while Transformers is still marinating back in the oven, it's still sitting there under broil, we could all be enjoying some Sonic, the Sonic buffet, man. This is going to be fun. I'm excited. I really want to see this game. I was a Super Nintendo kid, but my friend had Sega Genesis, and then eventually I got a Genesis, and I played a lot of Sonic. And if it's 16-bit nostalgia, and it's made by Steve Ritchie, the guy that voiced the video game in my childhood, Mortal Kombat. Oh my God. I'm in on it. I'm in on it. So if you hear of any launch parties for sure that are happening, go ahead and invite your boy. I'd love to come out there. In the meantime, if I hear about a day that I should free up to be in Chicago, it would certainly be helpful.

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But given that I'm not under NDA, I'm not expecting to hear anything. Hopefully when it releases, they'll say, you know, Don, if you're in town, go ahead and swing on by. There's a Potbelly Subs right down the street from Jersey Jack Pinball. So it's like a cool place to go for lunch, get your greasy hands on a pinball machine, play Godfather, rub the gold lines for good luck, and then bounce back out of there. What's going on with you? I want to hear it. What else are we going to talk about? Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. What else I did this week? It's been a crazy week, man. A new job started, my summer break has pretty much come to an end, but I haven't been just laying with my feet up. I was working. I was over there down the street at the factory, the Spooky Pinball factory, and I've been chipping away now at Beetlejuice. Let me give you the lay down. I thought, wouldn't it be cool if I could just build my own game? And they're like, Don, you'll void your warranty if you do that. And I'm like, I'd still kind of want to do it though. And they're like, go grab, go grab a playfield, man. And so I've gone through the playfield. I've added all the ball guides and everything out of the pop bumpers, wired the whole playfield. I built the cabinet, populated the cabinet with everything goes in there, which turns out is quite a bit. I stapled my own ground braid. I put in the mechanisms for the coin door and all that business. I decaled it. And now my cabinet is done. My playfield wiring is done. I am now finished with the ramps for the game. I have three more mechanisms to build and then it's time for final testing. I booted it up for the first time this week. The problem I'm having now is, of course, they're churning full blast now, kicking out these Beetlejuices as quick as they can and it's coming a lot faster than what they're letting on, man. It's pretty awesome to watch it work. So the last thing I want to do is jump into that final phase of production with my game and with my training wheels on, gumming up the works and then they have to drop to 75% capacity because I'm taking up space. So I'm going in there on days off when I can book some time with a kind of a do a little private lesson, a little private fitness tutor time and that's when we're getting things built. So I have a whole new appreciation for this entire game, particularly the ramps. These aren't just ramps that you pull out of a box. And put on the play field. These things are assembled by hand. The radiuses in the metal are bent like by hand. Like this is I feel like I'm needing bread. I feel like I'm making artisan muffins over here. Just like, you know, massaging and getting getting the radii just perfectly bent to so the ball like courses through the course and makes that nice 180 on the Dante ramp. Like I guess phenomenal just getting learning and putting together these things. And so now I've done that. I need to put a couch on. I need to build a Beetlejuice mech. I need to build a sandworm mech. And those are the last three pieces to come there. And so people have been asking me, Don, what do you do over at Spooky? Are you working for them now? Are you designing for them? I'll say this. I'm not an employee, first off. I do hang out there quite a bit. We go out and get food. I'm trying to get the guys into disc golf. But I did get a title. I did get a title. It's not Spooky Don. I don't think I've earned that yet. But I did get the title of Docent. Okay, I'll explain what that is here. So, you know, I've been through this factory a ton. I've been through the Stern factory a ton. I've been through the JJP factory a couple of times, been through the AP factory a couple of times. Like I know a pinball factory I know what it looks like I get the gist you know Starts over here with a play field gets populated gets wired cabinets get put together they get married together and then you know final QA and all that business playtesting and that bit So like I joke that I done the Stern tour so many times that I could probably give the tour myself and I been around the Spooky Factory enough that I literally do give the tours now So, a docent, okay, as opposed to a tour guide, right? A tour guide is somebody you pay money to lead tours, whether it's through a cave or through a brewery or whatever. A docent is that elderly retired person that would take your fourth grade class through the science museum. You know, they would take you through the hands-on portion. They would take you to the touch tank where you can go touch sea urchins and all that crap. The kindly elder statesman or stateswoman that would have the little brown hat on, and they were named docent Marge, and they would be a volunteer that would come and walk the kids through and show them the science museums, Then play the film strip and everything and then turn them loose in the cafeteria. So I'm like, dude, guys, can I be the docent? We had some people stop by the shop the other day and I got the call. Like, Don, there's some people that need a tour. Go to it. Boom, I did. And afterwards I was thinking, like, I'm a freaking docent, man. How cool is that? Like, full circle. I was the fourth and sixth grader who was acting up when we were going through the science museum, the hands-on touch museum when I was a kid. And now it's come full circle. Now I am the docent. Now you can follow me around as I show you the touch butter tank. That's what we have over there. The butter cabinets, you have to appreciate them in person. Videos, photos do not do it justice. The art looks great on the decal, but it's that clear coat finish on the butter. It's like rubbing a play field, but it's on the side of the cabinet. You got to do it. You got to go hands on with it. And the local folks that stopped by, they had a tour, had a great time, answered all their questions, showed them every step of the process, and we had a good time. So, I'm spooky docent. I need a jersey. I need one of those tricorder hats. I think it'd be super fun. So, I don't know what's going to happen with the rest of the week. It's only Monday. It feels like I'm already at Thursday, man. The days have been so packed and so busy, but we're having a lot of fun with pinball. We saw the Transformers topper. I like it. If you don't like it, that's totally okay. You don't have to like it. And I like Transformers the game. I wish the Optimus Prime that was in there was in a different position. But honestly, that's probably the only takedown of the game that I have. Like it shot fine. I liked all the ramps. I like the wire forms. I like what they borrowed from other games and put in there. And I love, love what Elizabeth did with that game. So like if that makes me an unpaid Jill for Stern, I like the game. I don't know what else to tell you. There's plenty of games from Stern I don't like. I don't like Bond. I mean, it's a pinball game. It's fun. I like playing it on location. I appreciate the fact that it's some people's favorite game. I don't like it. I kind of like Beatles, but not a ton, and I know people really like that game. I like Munsters, and most people hate it. I think it's all okay. I think to jump to where I'm a shill, don't buy Transformers. How's that for being a shill? I like the game. Wouldn't mind getting one at some point. I want to play it a lot more. I love what they've done with it. You heard my opinion on it. I think that's good enough. If you're having fun with a game and you want to hype it up, go at it, man. I just read some comments on Alice's Adventures in Wonderland from Dutch Pinball Exclusive. I saw an ad pull up for pre-orders from Cointaker's Facebook page. Did you see this? I figured this game had been sold out immediately, right? And then we found out, well, it's kind of still available, but only in Australia. And then it's like, well, now they're becoming available over here too. So there's an ad for this game. The price, I think it was $13,465 or somewhere around there. That's probably, I want to believe that that's landed in the U.S. It's got to be. But I got some questions though. I got some questions. Obviously this is people that have backed out of their pre-orders, right? Did they get refunded? Hopefully they did because that's what the agreement was. Although the agreement was from Melvin and Melvin is now an American and no longer at Dutch pinball, but he's still in the Netherlands. I'm trying to figure it out. We also know if you remember that Melvin was the one that made the agreement with the public. Like if you've pre-ordered your Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, it's been a year. You could get your money back. But if you stay in, you'll be front of the line for Back to the Future. And he is back out of that factory. So is that still holding? And then there's still people that have gotten their Alice's Adventures in Wonderland games, have not got the toppers yet. New people are getting their games delivered with the topper. What the hell's going on? Is it still going to be six months to get the topper? So I posted the comment on the Cointaker page on the ad. Like, is the topper included trying to get confirmation? Like, if you were to pre-order one of these games now, pre-order, I guess they're still building these things. But if you pre-order now, can we get confirmation that you're getting a topper? Because, like, I'd feel kind of sad with myself if I gave over $13,500 for a game that's not even built yet. And I don't even know if I'm going to get the topper with it or not. Imagine having the game this long and holding out for Back to the Future and finding out that number one, you're just not getting a topper and number two, you're not getting a spot for Back to the Future. That would totally suck. Let me know how you would feel like that in the comments. Don's Pinball Podcast at gmail.com is where you find me. Out here having some fun in pinball, Don's Pinball Podcast at gmail.com. Go to the Facebook page, talk to me directly. A lot of you got my number, just message me. I don't know, I want to talk to people. I'm having fun this week. I'm going to go fire up Evil Dead. It's probably game of the decade, now that I think about it. P3 Multimorphic, where's the new game? When are you dropping it? Let me know. Howdy.