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PNP-Ep. 508-Santa Drunk Dials Ray Day, Rachel, Tim, Glenn Coz, J Hall & MORE!

Poor Man's Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Dec 18, 2022
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TL;DR

Holiday drunk-dial episode with community calls, coffee promos, and pinball rumors.

Summary

Orbital Albert (host of Poor Man's Pinball Podcast) conducts a holiday-themed "drunk dial" episode where he and Drop Target Dan call various members of the pinball community on December 17th to wish them Merry Christmas and thank coffee/tea customers. The episode features calls to Dan Lazar (tribe member #45), attempts to reach Matt McGoffin and Tim Lee, and a call with Eric Norwood. Throughout, Albert promotes his Angry Alpaca coffee/tea line, discusses community members and their pinball collections, and speculates on upcoming pinball machines including Back to the Future by Keith Elwin and Foo Fighters.

Key Claims

  • Keith Elwin is rumored to no longer be working on Cornerstone for a manufacturer

    medium confidence · Orbital Albert references this as a rumor heard on Canadian Fumble podcast when leaving a voicemail for Matt McGoffin

  • Foo Fighters is rumored to be in development as a pinball machine

    low confidence · Albert mentions 'Did you know Foo Fighters is rumored to come out as a pinball machine?' in passing conversation with Drop Target Dan

  • Back to the Future by Keith Elwin is rumored/desired as a pinball machine

    medium confidence · Albert states 'Those two machines are Back to the Future by Keith Elwin. If that happens, I will be selling all of my graded comics all at once'

  • Spooky Pinball's Scooby-Doo game is expected to have good coding and animations

    low confidence · Dan Lazar speculates 'if it turns out that Scooby-Doo has awesome coding, cool animations, and is a good game' in discussion about pricing

  • A lower-priced quality pinball machine would disrupt the current market

    medium confidence · Dan Lazar claims 'the first person that disrupts this price model to put in some quality for a lower price is going to become instant millionaires'

  • Poor Man's Pinball Podcast has approximately 46 tribe members

    high confidence · Albert states 'I think we're only up to 46 now' in reference to tribe member count, with Dan Lazar being #45

  • Matt McGoffin recently purchased an Avengers Premium pinball machine

    high confidence · Albert leaves voicemail congratulating Matt on his 'new Avengers Premium' and warns him to check with Albert before selling it

Notable Quotes

  • “Listen, we've got a short life, and don't fill it with crap.”

    Dan Lazar @ ~14:30 — Philosophy on quality products and consumer spending, used as marketing material by Albert

  • “I swear to God, the first person that disrupts this price model to put in some quality for a lower price is going to become instant millionaires.”

    Dan Lazar @ ~15:45 — Direct commentary on pinball industry pricing as barrier to market growth

  • “I'm sponsored by no one but my coffee and tea company, so, you know, I can really say what I want about which companies to within reason.”

    Orbital Albert @ ~16:30 — Albert's positioning of editorial independence and willingness to critique manufacturers

  • “If that happens, I will be selling all of my graded comics all at once, rock-bottom prices, just to buy that pin.”

    Orbital Albert @ ~26:00 — Expresses extreme enthusiasm for rumored Back to the Future pinball by Keith Elwin

  • “You wear your heart on your sleeve. That's why I love to kind of listen to you because it's like just a breath of fresh air.”

    Dan Lazar @ ~17:00 — Praise for Albert's authentic, unfiltered podcast style

Entities

Orbital AlbertpersonDrop Target DanpersonDan LazarpersonMatthew J. McGoffinpersonEric NorwoodpersonTim Lionman LeepersonRachelpersonDaniellepersonKeith ElwinpersonPoor Man's Pinball Podcast

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Angry Alpaca coffee/tea achieved strong holiday sales with multiple repeat customers including Dan Lazar (described as roughly 50% of annual online sales), sold out gift baskets within 24 hours

    high · Albert states 'each year we're lucky to get maybe 10 or 15 online sales, and you're probably half of them this year' to Dan Lazar; gift baskets sold out after commercial release

  • ?

    community_signal: Poor Man's Pinball Podcast tribe has grown to approximately 46 members with Dan Lazar being member #45, indicating recent active recruitment or joining

    high · Albert confirms 'I think we're only up to 46 now' and notes Darryl is #46

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Keith Elwin rumored to no longer be designing Cornerstone for a manufacturer; community speculating on his next project

    medium · Albert references Canadian Fumble podcast as source: 'the rumor is Keith Elwin isn't doing Cornerstone anymore, as heard on Canadian Fumble podcast'

  • ?

    machine_intel: Back to the Future pinball machine by Keith Elwin is subject of strong community desire and speculation; described as getting Albert 'dandies going'

    medium · Albert: 'Those two machines are Back to the Future by Keith Elwin. If that happens, I will be selling all of my graded comics all at once'

  • $

    market_signal: Industry commentary suggests current $7,000-$15,000+ pinball pricing is barrier to market growth; first manufacturer to offer quality at lower price seen as having massive opportunity

    medium · Dan Lazar: 'the first person that disrupts this price model to put in some quality for a lower price is going to become instant millionaires'; discussion of Spooky pricing as potentially attractive at current level

Transcript

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0:00
Welcome back, Pinball Nerds, to episode 508 of your fifth favorite pinball podcast. My name's Orbital Albert, or should I say, Santa, because tonight I'm really excited to actually be calling, slash kind of surprise calling, some pinball nerds, some listen nerds, a couple tribe members, a couple customers of Angry Alpaca, kind of shoot the shots with my co-host tonight, Drop Target Danielle. Welcome to the show. Hello. I'm so excited that you're here. It's been a while. I know, it's been a hot minute. Now, have you actually ever been on any show on the Poor Man's Pinball Network?
0:38
No. Ooh! I'm going to be breaking your Poor Man's Pinball Network a little bit of pee-pee and cherry tonight. That's right. Are you excited for it? So excited. This is like the second sloppiest show on the internet. That's what I hear. Because we all know Drew and Ian, you know, have the original sloppiest show ever. It's currently taken over by Drew, a little less sloppy with just Drew. And speaking of Drew, that's not only the poor man, the PPN fearless leader himself, but will also be calling many other people, including the likes of Jack Danger, because Hayden reminded me, you've got to call Jack Danger for calling pinball people. Look, does Jack have any clue I'm calling? Probably not. But will he maybe answer? possibly, maybe, who knows I actually think what's going to happen is a lot of people that I'm trying to call will be at Christmas parties because it's Saturday, December 17th just, what, 8 days from Christmas?
1:36
I know it's in the week until Christmas Eve so yeah, I suppose so So honey, I'm just looking over at the controls and you are completely whispering so they're not going to hear anything you said there, so maybe you could speak up a little bit louder as if we're on a show or a podcast Okay. Thank you. See, now they heard you. See these little things here? Guys, I'm so sorry. I'm trying to make the audio better. I've got Danielle and I kind of halfway between the snowball mic, and then I've got a headset, because I know it's Rorden on my last show that I didn't interview. We couldn't hear him that well, so I'm very conscious of the audio. And I'm going to try my best to make it better, even though most people we are calling directly through Messenger, which is hooked up to a speaker. Your voice is not. so you're going to have to remember to speak really loud and get crazy. Now, first of all, every time I say, mistletoe, what are you going to do?
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Angry Alpacacompany
Josh Muddperson
Mike Dimasperson
Heliconvenue
Carter Castlemanperson
Joe Chervinoperson
Spooky Pinballcompany
Back to the Futuregame
Foo Fightersgame
Scooby-Doogame
Avengers Premiumgame
Solar Ridegame
Canadian Fumble podcastorganization
Haydenperson
Owenperson
  • ?

    product_launch: Matt McGoffin recently acquired Avengers Premium pinball machine; Albert references it as 'new' acquisition suggesting recent purchase

    high · Albert congratulates Matt on 'new Avengers Premium' in voicemail; says 'congrats, Matt, on it'

  • ?

    content_signal: Orbital Albert recently transitioned from independent podcast network to Poor Man's Pinball Network, continuing to build audience; episode designed to re-engage listeners who may have missed transition

    high · Albert thanks listeners who 'moved over from me being on my own little network of one over there and now over here' and mentions finding listeners who hadn't subscribed to Poor Man's yet

  • ?

    personality_signal: Drop Target Dan makes first appearance on Poor Man's Pinball Network despite previously being known in pinball community; described as breaking his 'cherry' on the network

    high · Albert: 'Have you actually ever been on any show on the Poor Man's Pinball Network? No. Ooh! I'm going to be breaking your Poor Man's Pinball Network cherry'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Helicon pinball venue active with tournament play; hosting Classic format competition where Tim Lee achieved first finals appearance

    medium · Albert notes Tim 'got to his very first ever finals in Classic last night at Helicon'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Foo Fighters pinball machine rumored to be in development; community speculating on this title

    low · Albert asks Drop Target Dan: 'Did you know Foo Fighters is rumored to come out as a pinball machine? I did hear that rumor.'

  • ?

    designer_intel: Keith Elwin's involvement with Cornerstone title uncertain; rumored to have left or ended project based on Canadian Fumble podcast reporting

    medium · Albert voicemail: 'now that the rumor is Keith Elwin isn't doing Cornerstone anymore, as heard on Canadian Fumble podcast, I would be a little bit worried about that'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Positive reception to Albert's authentic, unfiltered content style within community; valued for genuine personality over production polish

    high · Dan Lazar: 'You wear your heart on your sleeve. That's why I love to kind of listen to you because it's like just a breath of fresh air... you're authentic. Maybe the sound quality is not the best in all podcasting, but you know what? I'm at least telling you the truth.'

    • 2:29
    Give me a big smooch-a-roo-no. You didn't know what to do under the mistletoe? I don't know. I had no idea. Okay, well, next time if you saw a mistletoe and a handsome gentleman standing there, what do you do?
    2:47
    Give him a smooch. That's right. Okay. Come on, man. Jeez. It's like pulling teeth here. It's like I'm asking you to go on a beer run to Amherst or something. Speaking of beers, what you drinking, babe?
    3:00
    Some B-Excellence blueberries and cream tea. What? I thought you were drinking alcohol tonight. You were going to have some eggnog and rum or something? No, I had an edible instead. Whoa, an edible insteadable. Okay, so no wonder you're talking so quietly over there. No, we might have had a little Christmas. I mean, Santa might have had his little Christmas pipe as well, his little Christmas feet. And anyways, yeah, we're going to be calling some people. The first person that I wanted to, first of all, I just wanted to thank everybody this year that's ordered off of us. Were you pleasantly surprised? I know it was somewhere around episode 490 we started telling all the fine folks about our coffee and tea. Were you pleasantly surprised by the number of people who ordered? Yeah, very much so. It only took 490 episodes for me to start advertising our own products on there, but I wanted to be sponsorship-free, and then I was like, screw it, I'm selling out, I'm going to become the shill, the most buy-buy-buy-my-coffee that you ever did here. And it worked, because Mr. Dan the Man, who we're going to be calling first, I know we have some house guests coming over tonight, Dan the Man, Dan Lazar, many of you guys know him, of course, in the Poor Men's Pinball Tribe. We're going to be calling him first, because he does have some guests coming over tonight. but I also wanted to thank Jonathan Hall who also ordered, Sarah Hodgkins Joseph Hood ordered a couple times, Ari Jones Joe Chervino, the pinball degenerate himself, Lisa Castleman of course of the pinballers, married to Mike Castleman there and Carter Castleman is their son, the Ontario pinball prodigy himself or I should say Canadian now because he's just been kicking butt in every tournament this year and then believe it or not Mr. Chris too cool for school Russ Kaneda himself actually ordered up and got some awesome coffee. And a whole bunch of people are probably mad at me now, because when this man is super hyped up on a Saturday morning, he's probably on some Orbeez beans. Not going to lie, he could be. Right? He sounds like it, doesn't he? Yeah.
    5:00
    And then, of course, James Elliott, I think show listener. Thank you so much for that, James. I don't know him that well, but I believe he's out in D.C. somewhere. Mr. Tim Lionman Lee, of course. And Joe Selvage, he has not only ordered once but twice. He's, of course, known as Uncle Toybox on Twitch. He is not live streaming as much anymore, but I know he would like to get back into that again, so you could always follow him. But he's not only ordered once, but he also just ordered one of our gift baskets before they sold out. He did, yeah. And what did you think of that commercial that our sons Hayden and Owen put together? I loved that. It was great. My favorite part was definitely the slow motion part, and I won't give it all away or tell you too much about it, but what I will say is that if you have not seen the commercial, it's too late. The gift baskets are already sold out, so I'm not trying to sell you on anything this one particular time. But hop over to Albert Agar on Facebook or Angry Alpaca and take a look at that video that I posted of Hayden and Owen. I told them they would get 100% of the money from all the gift boxes sold if they made us a rad commercial. And they did not disappoint because, be honest, we love our kids, But had we not told them there was some type of a little bit of gold at the end of the rainbow, they probably wouldn't have worked that hard on the commercial. No, I don't think so. I think they did a great job, though.
    6:19
    Honestly, like if you had gone to a marketing firm and told them you had 24 hours to come up with the idea for a commercial, record the commercial, direct the commercial, edit the commercial, and have it posted, and within 24 more hours you wanted to have sold out every single product you had remaining for Christmas, You know, you pay thousands of dollars or more. Like, marketers ain't cheap, right? So, without further ado, let's start calling people. Guys, please forgive me. I think it might be slightly better than Tim the Lion Man, Lee Do, and James Bond. Did you hear that?
    6:52
    No. No? It was on Tribe Multiball. It was hilarious. I'll have to play it for you. You don't love all of my accents. No. But I think that you would like my accents slightly better than Tim Lee Do and James Bond. I guess his wife completely said, Mistress Anne completely said, no more James Bond. Okay. So, anyways, tonight I'm going to be doing Santa. I practiced with Santa a little bit today and yesterday. I'm trying to be funny, guys. It's not going to be like perfectamundo.
    7:20
    I have worked at a mall before, but I was only a lowly security guard, a good old Paul Blart rent-a-albert, okay? But I was never a mall Santa. And I am still dealing with a little bit of a scratchy throat from a cold. So it's going to be even worse than it would have been originally. But, like I said, any person who doesn't answer, I'm going to just pretend as if I'm talking to them. And I got their answering machine, and I'm going to leave them a message, and I'm going to hope to gosh that they listen to it here. And in between, I'll just get you to help me provide content and possibly fill up Santa's pipe if it needs a refresh. Sounds good. Or his cup. No, I don't even need you to fill up the cup because I actually brought a bowl over here with all my beers for tonight. So I'm so excited for this episode. You really prepped ahead, eh? I sure did. And yeah, without further ado, let's look up Dan here and give him a quick call. And I know that there's so many people going to be busy. Frankly, I'd be happy if we got even two or three people on the phone. 24 hours ago, I did mention in the poor man's tribe, I was going to try to call some people tonight. All the people who liked that post, I'm going to at least attempt to call. The list is somewhat extensive, so we'll see how many we can get through. And the main thing is I just want to wish, before I get into calling other people, I sincerely, genuinely want to listen. I want to thank all the listeners, everybody especially who moved over from me being on my own little network of one over there and now over here and still listens. Because I did actually speak to a huge listener who had listened to probably 80% of my episodes in the past.
    8:52
    And somehow, someway, just unfortunately, although heard I was going over to the poor man's, wasn't subscribed yet to the poor man's panel network. for some freaking reason. What's wrong with you? And they hadn't heard any of my new stuff. And once I told them, they said, okay, I'll go listen to it. And then I, you know, started hearing, wow, I really enjoy it. I like it. Thanks for doing that. So I think there is a couple people from Canada who, you know, didn't maybe make the move over. And I'm hoping to gather them back again. And maybe just, you know, if any of them are on this list and I give them a quick call tonight, well, that's certainly going to help, isn't it? Absolutely.
    9:22
    All right. Here I go. Calling number one. And guys, if the audio is way too loud, I will notice it and try to adjust it. But just remember, I'm not an audio frickin' engineer. I'm not Christopher Franchi over here. I'm not getting rid of ums and yas and buts and making it sound perfectamundo. I'm not that good. And just as a reminder, if you haven't listened to that Christmas classic, The Super Awesome Pinball Show, they have added some new content at the start, but the whole end of it is just as chef's kiss. Just the same way I watch National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, every single year, every single year, I will listen to the super awesome pinball show Christmas special. Because it's, well, I think it's the best single show podcast ever released. Said it before, say it again. Here we go.
    10:08
    Oh, the weather outside is frightening, frightful. Man, it's all so delightful. Oh, Merry Christmas!
    10:35
    Merry Christmas, brother. How you doing? Not too bad. How are you doing, Dan? Oh, pretty good, pretty good. Hey, since I got you on the line, Dan or Orby, what are you giving me for Christmas, bro? Well, I will be sending you a pinball machine with 42 different action buttons.
    11:00
    Wait, but those start buttons. That's correct. Yeah. What are you drinking today, Santa and Barbie? Well, thanks for asking. I'm actually drinking, all the way up here in the North Pole, We don't have the same selection you do down there in the United States. But I'm drinking a little passion fruit, orange, and pink guava.
    11:26
    Oh, really? Yes. From good old Trailway Brewing. What are you drinking? Well, you know what? It's funny because I was going to call myself a pervert, but have you ever, did you do hard seltzers at all?
    11:41
    Well, you know, Grandpa, you know Santa around this time of year. He needs to have a hard seltzer or two, so I like to have myself a Happy Dad. Yeah, no, this is, that's what I'm drinking. I'm drinking Happy Dad.
    11:55
    Shut the front door. Are you serious? Yeah. Wow. Drinking a Happy Dad. Oh, well, that's so cool. Now, listen, Dan, is it okay if I pass the phone over to my friend, Orbital Albert? Yes, sure, Dan. Thank you, sir. Oh, okay, just a second here. One of my elves is going to help me with the audio here. For some reason or another, you're not coming out of my loudspeaker, so I'm hoping the audience can hear you well. But, oh, here he is, the man himself, Orville Elbert.
    12:27
    Hey, Orby. Hello, how's it going, Dan? All right, man, how you doing? Pretty excellent. Very good, very good. Are you ready to... Well, actually, your season's over, right? Yes, we're all done for the entire season. Hopefully the audience can hear you a little better. I've got you on a different mic now.
    12:50
    Yeah, I'm sure everybody's ready to kind of take it easy and enjoy themselves for a couple weeks. Yeah, it's, you know, one of the nice things is, let's say we had like a cafe that was a physical location. We would be getting slammed for the next three or four months. It's really the busiest time of the year, of course, is when it's cold out up here, right? So instead, we just get to relax a little. Danielle's just working as a substitute teacher part-time. She is here if you want to say hello quickly.
    13:19
    Hey, hello, Danielle. Hi. How are you doing? Pretty good. How are you? Good, good, good. That's good.
    13:28
    Thank you for sending me all the coffee and tea. Actually, I'm getting ready to put a tea order in probably later today. Oh, awesome. I've been slow. Yeah, I've been way lacking. That's great. I'm happy you're enjoying it.
    13:41
    Oh, yeah. We've been, well, we turned it into iced tea the last one we got. I'm trying to remember which one it was. It was a mint. It was actually very refreshing. Oh, awesome. That's fantastic.
    13:53
    Dude, you honestly, you've been our number one fan this year, ordering coffee and tea pretty much all the time. So I had you first on the list to call, and thank you so much. We really appreciate it. Like, honestly, each year we're lucky to get maybe 10 or 15 online sales, and you're probably half of them this year. So, honestly, sincerely, thank you. Thank your wife, Rachel. Thank you so much. We really, really appreciate it.
    14:19
    It's quality product, so, you know, if you don't have to twist my arm, it gets good to me all the time. It's good stuff. And, I mean, for a man like yourself who, you know, has such a nice pinball collection, I'm sure it's, you know, if you can spend $2,000, not that you don't have the Mando Topper yet, do you? No, no, no. I don't even have a man to. Right. No, I didn't think you did. But, you know, in a crowd where people are willing to spend two grand on a topper, you know, it's probably okay to spend, you know, 50 or 100 bucks on, you know, some quality coffee and tea, right? That's right. Listen, we've got a short life, and don't fill it with crap call. That's right. Life's too short for that. Well said. I like that. We're using that on our social media.
    15:04
    You're more alone. Hey, so you became a tribe member. What number are you? I'm tribe member number 45. Number 45. So you're like fresh to the tribe, relatively speaking. I'm number 26, and I think we're only up to 46 now, right? Yeah, Darryl, number 46. Now, I can't call everybody on the list, all of the tribe members, but if there was one, I have quite a few people down here, of course. I have Drew and I have Ian and I have Glenn and I have Tim and Rachel Risto. But outside of that, is there anyone maybe on here I don't have the list who you think has either been very naughty or very nice who deserves a phone call from me or Santa?
    15:47
    Oh, Josh Mudd. Come on. Josh Mudd. I love to hear what that guy says. I know, right? I think he was on one of the live streams, but he just kept wearing, like, silly masks. I'm not sure if he talked at all.
    16:01
    Like, there was a tribe. I think it was last Christmas there was a Tribe meetup, and he just kept wearing funny masks. He's hilarious.
    16:08
    Yeah, no, I love that guy. I don't know. Josh Mudd does something every day that makes me laugh, so I'll take that. All right, well, when I call him and wake him up at, like, 3 a.m. No, you guys are both. Are you in Arizona? Is it Arizona?
    16:25
    Yeah, I'm in Arizona, so I'm in Mountain Time. I think he lives around St. Louis, so they might be central. Well, fuck that guy. I'll fucking wake him up at 2 a.m. anyway. No, I'm just kidding. No, right? He's like two hours behind me, so.
    16:40
    Yeah, well, yeah, he's probably at the gym anyways. When you call, you probably get him at the gym. Man, if I call Josh Mudd and he answers the phone while doing one-arm fucking push-ups, I'm just going to be like, dude, you are the man. I'm going to fire you off some free coffee, bro.
    16:56
    There it is. Well, listen, okay, I'm going to let you go because I got like 38 other people on this list to call. But it was really good to talk to you. You are one of the few people, a lot of the people on here I have either met in person or I have interviewed on the show. And I know I jokingly kind of, well, I was half serious, said if you ever wanted to come on the show. And look at this, I got you on the show.
    17:16
    Yeah, perfect. It's one way to do it. It's tis the season, and I'm willing to be giving the Tribe Nation a little bit of my voice. So, happy to do it. Well, what an awesome bunch of buttholes, huh? All right. Well, listen, thank you so much. Have a very Merry Christmas. Say Merry Christmas to your wife as well. Happy holidays. I will. Thank you. Happy holidays to you all. Thank you. And, hey, listen, I appreciate everything. At Orbit, I appreciate the content you put out. Thank you.
    17:48
    You wear your heart on your sleeve. That's why I love to kind of listen to you because it's like just a breath of fresh air. Thank you. Well, you know what? I appreciate that. If nothing else, people have said at least you're authentic. Maybe the sound quality is not the best in all podcasting, but you know what? I'm at least telling you the truth. I'm sponsored by no one but my coffee and tea company, so, you know, I can really say what I want about which companies. To within reason, because I like to go to a lot of these shows, and I don't want to get, like, beat up, per se, or make people cry in the corner. But at the same time, you know, I also want to use constructive criticism to kind of nudge them gently towards making maybe better pinball machines at a lower price. That's all.
    18:32
    Oh, a lower price would be great. I swear to God, the first person that disrupts this price model to put in some quality for a lower price is going to become instant millionaires. I think you're 100% right. and even the prices that Spooky's at, if it turns out that Scooby-Doo has awesome coding, cool animations, and is a good game, I think even at that price point, you're going to see more people turn on the Switch, especially on the lower end model.
    18:57
    For the way the market's going right now, I thought you were extremely reasonable with what you were charging for what you were getting. I thought it was great. Yeah, I think it could happen. Yeah.
    19:08
    All right, Dan, I'm going to let you go, and until next time, remember to eat, sleep, and breathe, Dan the Man Pinball.
    19:16
    I'm going, guys. Take it easy. Have a great night. You too. Bye-bye. Bye. Okay, that was kind of fun. Now, we could either chit-chat for a little bit, or we could just look someone else up next and call them. So, we called an American. Let's try calling Mr. Melvis Megaphone, my best friend. Now, when I say this, sometimes people think I'm just doing conjecture, or I'm just, I don't even know what that word means. It sounded so smart.
    19:45
    But they think I'm just, like, kidding around. But literally, is Matt McGoffin my best friend? Oh, yeah, 100%. Was my best man at our wedding. Yeah. Has been best buddies with me on and off. You know, he left the Whitehorse for a few years there. Eric Norwood had to take over for my best buddy, that sort of thing. But anyways, that was fun. I probably won't make all the phone calls that long. And I'm really sorry at the very start the audio sucks, but we figured it out. Hopefully we figure it out from here on out. Pardon? The audio there sucked, but we figured it out. Oh, no, it's much better now, I think. And then, yeah. Good. Okay, well, this is Matthew J. McGoffin. Many of my old pinball buddies from the London, Ontario Pinball League, they'll know all about it. Ready? Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, what fun it is to ride in a one-horse open sleigh. Hey, jingle bells. Oh, and Malvis didn't answer. Should we redial or no? Too many people to get to.
    20:42
    One more time. Oh, he's not even ready to... He must be having Christmas dinner. Okay, on to our next. This is like a Foo Fighters song. Done, done, on to the next one. Did you know Foo Fighters is rumored to come out as a pinball machine? I did hear that rumor. Did you hear Glenn say, rumor corner? No. No, I'm not a rumor guy. But, like, the two that have been just getting my dandies going, getting my chestnuts roasted, if you will, okay? Those two machines are Back to the Future by Keith Elwin. If that happens, I will be selling all of my graded comics all at once, rock-bottom prices, just to buy that pen. I will do what I have to do. I'll give blood. I'll drive to the States to give blood. They pay you there for it, right? Yeah, we get paid for plasma here. Yeah, that was scary. I went to go for the plasma. That was a little scary.
    21:36
    Anyways, I might try plasma in the future. It could happen. All right, so next we're going to try calling Tim the Lion Man Lee, who is playing an intern at a telecom. So if we do actually get a hold of him, there will be tons of background noise. But, you know, if he's in a round, I expect that he won't actually, like, you know, answer. And that's okay. Now I'll leave a message for Matt as if he answered. You've reached Matthew Megaphone. And I can't come to the phone right now because I'm busy collecting Funkos or playing AIQ Premium. Yes, congrats, Matt, on it. Hey, Matt, just wanted to congratulate you on your new Avengers premium. Make sure you talk to me first before you sell that because it's a pretty awesome machine. And now that the rumor is Keith Elwin isn't doing cornerstones anymore, as heard on Canadian Fumble podcast, I would be a little bit worried about that. Oh, sure, Dan. This was a great time to send me a picture of the beer you're drinking. He does have a happy dad. I didn't even tell him why that was so cool. So for those of you who don't know who Nelk is, I've been watching NELC, a prank channel on YouTube, for like eight years, nine years. A long time. Ever since they were even before that on MTV Canada on another show that was kind of like our version of Jackass. And now they actually are so big. Like, they interviewed Elon Musk recently. They've interviewed pretty much everybody. They're so big that they started a liquor brand called Happy Dad. And I'm so jealous because all these Americans in the U.S. get to try Happy Dad, and they still don't have distribution here in, well, our neck of the woods anyways, on the east coast of Canada. so I've never got to try it. So I'm a little bit upset about it, and I'm not going to lie. Now, let's give Tim the Lion Man Lee a call, who I know got to his very first ever finals in Classic last night at Helicon.
    23:18
    Yeah. Is that too loud, guys? It might be too loud. Is it a little too loud on there? I mean, it's about as loud as you are when you're loud, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Tim probably can't answer because he's at the brewery. Is it going to just be us listening to call people all night, probably?
    23:39
    Ho, ho, ho. Tim Lee, have you been naughty or have you been nice? Wait, Tim Lee, you said that Halloween was a good pinball machine. You've been a naughty boy. Just kidding, Tim. Yeah, he actually, I owe him a correction because I said that he liked it. He just said I think it was like, he kind of likes it. He just said it gets a lot of plays when it's out of sales, something like that. So Tim Lee, I'll have to call later. I'm going to put him on the callback list.
    24:07
    Callback. All right. Next is Mr. Eric Norwood. Many of you guys will know him from my live streaming.
    24:16
    What, are you heading out of Drop Target? No, I'm just getting a refill. Oh, getting a little refill on the drink drank. Okay.
    24:23
    You going to put some booze in it this time? No. Grab your blue drink you got there in the fridge. that weird blue drink with the house cat berries or something.
    24:31
    Come on, honey, have some Christmas cheer. Christmas comes, but only once a year. I'm a freaking poet, and I didn't doggone know it.
    24:41
    Oh, my, how are we 24 minutes in? I only talked to one person. We're 24 minutes in. I'm dreaming of a white Christmas Just like the... Hello?
    25:04
    Hello. Oh, Merry Christmas, Mr. Eric. Thank you. And how are you doing today, young man? Pretty good. That's good. Well, it is I, Orbital Santa, calling all the way from River Hibbert's, Nova Scotia, live here on the podcast.
    25:29
    And I've brought Mrs. Claus, known as Drops Targets Danielle, to say Merry Christmas as well. Merry Christmas, Eric.
    25:38
    Merry Christmas. How's it going? It's going alright That's good Now when I told the elves that I'd be calling Eric this Christmas they thought I meant Eric Menyer the Jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean designer but instead I've called you Do you have anything as interesting as Eric Menyer to tell us about pinball this year and if you were naughty or nice The slingshot on my pinball machine is not working.
    26:12
    Well, I'm sorry to hear about that. If you send it free shipping to Ho Ho Ho at the North Pole, my elves will get right on it. And they use only Marco parts, so it will be fixed blickety split.
    26:29
    Oh, hold on. Someone's knocking on the old igloo door. Who's there? It is I. Orbital Albert. Santa, I've come to relieve you of your duties. You can go tend to Mrs. Claus.
    26:47
    Hello? Who's there? It's me, Eric. Oh, Eric, how's it going, buddy? It's good to talk to you. I haven't talked to you for so long since Fortnite on Thursday night.
    27:02
    Well, listen, buddy, I got a lot of people to call on this list and find out if they're naughty or nice, but it sounds like your solar ride, which, for those who don't know, was the very first pinball machine that I ever purchased from Mike Dimas, Mr. Pinball Shenanigans. He's also on the list to call tonight. And then I sold it to Matthew Megaphone, who we already called. You know, he sent me to the quick hang-up the second time I called, Eric.
    27:25
    How rude. We were having dinner. I don't give a shit if he's giving birth out his anus hole. That man should answer the phone when your best friend calls. you should just go, hey, come hell or high water, literally unless you're in the act of wrapping gift presents, because that's more important than anything else. But if you're not in the act of wrapping gift presents presently, you should wrap it up and just say, hey, I only told you and Matt and then the tribe members and then an hour ago on my Facebook page. So basically no one knew who I was calling but you guys. But thank you for answering. Now, listen, does that make SolarRide completely unplayable? or... No, it's fine. Okay. I mean, it's not going to affect the... It's just an old machine. It just needs a little bit of TLC, that's all. Well, you know I did fuck-all maintenance on it, and Matt probably did even less. No, I'm just kidding. Matt's way better maintenance than I am, but... And then, you love, like, you, Eric, you can fix everything you get your hands on, it seems like.
    28:25
    Yeah, I just haven't had a chance to open it up yet. Okay, well listen, I hope you get a little bit of extra time to work on it and you get that puppy fired up. Pew, pew, pew. I miss you lots. I love you, bro. I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your help with the live stream. For those who don't know, when I started my Twitch channel, Eric came over for, like, the first five times we recorded, helped me figure everything out. If it wasn't for him, I honestly don't think I ever would have figured it out. I would have just given up on it and, like, taken all my cameras and just thrown them out probably.
    28:56
    Yeah, no, I honestly think you would have. Yeah. I'd be grumpy with taking all my cameras. Thank you, Eric.
    29:07
    Well, you're the man, cool guy. You're very welcome. But listen, I'm going to give you another show to, you know, obviously closer to Christmas. Maybe we can do a Zoom with you, me, Matt, and maybe just call some more people and do like a, we don't do a Zoom, but we can use like Messenger or whatever, do some type of video chat, like maybe on December 23rd or maybe on the 24th, just for fun, hang out for a bit if you're down.
    29:29
    Yeah. All right, buddy. Well, listen, I'm going to say cheers to you. And I am over on the Poor Men's Pinball Network now, so I am supposed to ask, what you drinking? You having a little brewski or a little eggnog and chocolate milk? Or what you drinking?
    29:45
    Whiskey. My man. Okay, listen, if I get through absolutely every single person and no one answers, because honestly, you're only the second person to answer so far, can I call you back maybe?
    29:57
    Sure. Okay. Well, I wouldn't say for sure, but I would say maybe. But just expect when I call back, I'll be a lot more drunk than I am now because I'm on to beer number three. Here we go.
    30:06
    Oh, yeah. So I am drinking beer number two, the Loyola City Brewing Co. It's called the Pink Dwarf. I didn't think we were supposed to use the D word anymore, but I didn't name it. It's called the Pink Dwarf, and it is a tart cherry beer. So even Drop Target's Danielle's eyes are, like, coming out of her head. She's like, mmm, smacking her lips, mmm, tasty. Chef's kiss. No, it does look really good. It smells even better. Let me pour it for his baby. It'll help. Okay, Eric. I love you, bro. Merry Christmas.
    30:36
    Merry Christmas. Talk soon, buddy. Cheers. Bye. Wow, wasn't that nice to chat with Eric? This is cool. Okay, I think the audio is better than it was before, so let's just pour this beer.
    30:53
    Honey, we should have written down what you... We were going to sing Christmas carols while the stupid phone is ringing. Here, I'll let you have the first sip, the first smell. Give us your drop targets, Danielle, professional analysis of the beer.
    31:09
    It's not like overpowering cherry. It's not too much? It's light, let's see. Okay. That's nice, I like that. Okay. If you don't like it, I'll drink it for you. She says she likes it. You got your special blue liquid. I only got myself four tall cans. I'm trying to be a good boy tonight. Can't give you one of my four beers, silly. The blue liquid that you traded the French girl who used the hard R word in Quebec. Or from Quebec. Or New Brunswick. Go take a look at it. You might have to add tonic water to it if it's too high ABV. Oh, it's the red current. I thought it was Hesca. Okay, we're going to be calling Glenn the skateboard. Here we go.
    31:57
    Hey, Siri, call Glenn. Just kidding, I don't have that shit. I don't use Siri. What, do I want my whole life posted online? Oh, wait, never mind, I'm on a podcast. Just kidding, never mind.
    32:12
    Oh, my God. We have, like, 50 people to get through. We're definitely not going to get through everybody. There's just 0% chance. I know Glenn said he was super busy and might not be able to chat, which is, that's okay, Glenn. Okay, I'm going to leave Glenn a pretend answering machine message. Hey guys, it's just Glenn here I'm off skateboarding or else I'd be able to answer the phone Leave me a message Hey Glenn, it's just Orville Elbert here I wanted to call and wish you a very Merry Christmas to you and your family Thank you so much for doing my awesome theme song I really appreciate it You and of course Dr. John Thank you so much Dr. John And no I'm not calling Dr. John, Marty Robbins or Rorden or any awesome Australian people because there's so many rad listeners who live in Australia who listen to the show. In fact, my last few shows have got more listeners from Australia than even Canada. What's going on with that? So I'm more popular in Australia than Canada. Is that cool? I think it's kind of cool. All right, let's try to fire up the telephone with good old Mike Dynas. And again, I expect many of these pinball nerds are at Christmas events or they're already at pinball tournaments. And, you know, plus, you know, when Orby's randomly calling and you didn't expect it, You're like, hmm, do I answer that? Do I answer it? I don't know. Maybe you do.
    33:33
    Batman smells Joker laid an egg. I think that was it. Hello. Hey, man. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas, Mike. What's going on man? How are you doing today?
    33:58
    I am good I am at Tri-City Pinball League right now Oh my gosh, well Santa won't keep you for too long I'm also pretty busy here at the North Pole making toys for all the good boys and girls Ah well, you know, I hope I'm on the nice list Oh, hold on, someone's at the door Okay Hi Santa, listen, Mrs. Claus needs you It's an emergency in the bedroom, go, go, go Hello, Mike? Oh, hi Hey, it's Orby here, how's it going buddy? I just have Orbs The one and only Haven't heard from you for a while I know buddy, I know Not live anyway, a little chat here A little chat there, but I know That was the excuse for doing this so I could call like 40 pinball nerds and just bug them really on a Saturday night.
    34:54
    Nice, man. I should throw in the camera so you can see the TCT election for a minute. Hold on. Yeah, go for it.
    35:03
    Yo. Hey, how's it going? You want to feed some pinball nerds, Dina? I got some pinball nerds for you. We got Aiden Green and Jim Wiltz, Craig Morose. Dick Freeman, Randy Whiteford, Jeff Sciolis. Hey, what's up? Hey, Barbie, what's up? How's it going?
    35:29
    Look at that bugger. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. How am I going to call Sean and Jeff if they're already there?
    35:40
    What's that? I was trying to turn this up. No, I said, how am I supposed to call Sean and Jeff if they're already there? Alright, he got three for the price of one That's incredible, that's awesome This is Manny's place Oh, was that Mr. Hopkins?
    36:00
    No, Mr. Hopkins, he's not here Well, that guy kind of looked like Brad just a little Oh, yeah Yeah, buddy, so I'm going to take the camera off so I can actually hear you Hold on Let's do that I'm putting the phone to my ear so hopefully you're not looking into my eardrums no no no it's worse I'm looking into your butthole oh that's even better I was just wondering what's inside your butthole maybe it was astronauts maybe it was aliens no I'm just kidding no I can't see anything we can't see anything don't worry well I think there's a song all about that yeah there just might be hey how pinball shenanigans has been going. I don't watch every single video. I did watch the Pinson Addy one where the lights went out on you there and you had to almost do the half tour. I watch all the tours that you do. I don't watch all the repair videos because you know me, I can repair about as good as... I think that's probably kind of common. Repair ones are kind of more for a more specific audience. The tours, anyone can enjoy. That's independent of both. I appreciate that. It's been going good. It's been fun. Just did a little tour of Manny's place. and I've been hearing all your action on the Pinball Nerds Network. I mean... The Poor Men. What is it called? PPN. PPN, yeah, Poor Men's. Network, I've been listening. Yeah, that's cool that you're back in action, man. It's good to hear your voice on the airwaves again. Thank you. You know, I took some time off and decided, you know, just to come back. I missed it too much. I missed really getting to conversate with everybody, and I will guarantee you this. I'm probably going to let you go now because I've got a couple more people to call. Yep. But I will tell you this, next year, I 100% promise I will make it to Ontario to play in a couple pinball tournaments with you. Sweet, man. Yeah, that'd be fun. We'll hit the town. And Matthew J. McGoffin has your pin shades, by the way, that you won, like, years ago. I sent them to him two weeks ago, so that motherfucker better read them and give those to you. Yeah, well, I'll blame him. And he did mention that. Oh, good, okay. That's kind of hilarious. I appreciate that. That's awesome. I forget how I even earned them or won them or how that came to be, but I'm excited to try them out. Well, Mike, it was great just being that rad. Take a shenanigan video of my pin shade award. How did they end up coming to be mine anyway? Was this a draw or was the... Do you remember? I don't remember, but, you know, someday if I'm really, really bored and I go back and listen to the episodes, we'll know. I think it was between episode 300 and 400 that you did something to win them. But I don't know. Maybe it was like I did an intro video or an intro song. That's right.
    38:57
    Maybe that's what I was doing. Yes, and I used that between episode 300 and episode 400, I believe. Yeah, I think so. I have to go back and listen to that I haven heard that little riff for a while Well you only have about 100 podcasts to riff through It be easy to find Mike Yeah Well good to hear from you Yeah, I love you, man. I'm glad you're calling Quest. Thank you, thank you. Not very many people have answered, so I appreciate you actually answering. This probably should be up tomorrow or the next day, depending on when I get to it. But have yourself a rad night. Merry Christmas. Make sure you say Merry Christmas also to Jamie. and, you know, Jay over there, your neighbor, and all the people I don't get to see, give everybody a hug for me from Loppel, and I guess TCPL because Loppel's not happening right now.
    39:44
    Yeah, yeah. Will do, brother. Sounds good. Have a good night, man. And, yeah, Merry Christmas to you and the fan and all the goats and animals and, you know. Thank you, thank you. Many shenanigans this Christmas. Hey, well, I'm done working for the year, so it's all merry from here on out.
    40:00
    Awesome. Take it easy, buddy. All right. Bye. Talk to you later. Bye. See you then. Wow, that was fun. Wasn't that fun, honey?
    40:09
    So for those who don't know, Mike has bought and sold, or Mike has not bought, but Mike, I have bought from Mike, like, what, probably, what, 13 of my 15 pins or 12 of my 15 pins that I bought and sold. So that was great. All right. On to the next one. Mr. Poor Man Drew. Now, I didn't see if Drew commented on there. I don't know. Ben, to be honest, you know, he's a mover and shaker in the real estate world now. He might be busy. I wouldn't put it past him. But I'm going to try to give him a quick call. Who knows? It could happen. Maybe he might answer.
    40:44
    Got to try Drew, our fearless leader. Come on. And then I'll say, Drewby-dooby-doo, where are you? That was pretty good, sis. Drewby-dooby-doo. It's doobie-doobie-doo. I like it.
    41:03
    Danielle's laughing from the kitchen. What are you, making yourself a drink? Yeah. Okay. You know, she's supposed to be co-hosting. She has not been out here a whole lot. The good news is, I think she might be able to help refill Santa's pipe. Possibly. Can you believe we're 40 minutes in, babe? That is nuts. That is nothing futz. Okay, next is Mr. David Dennis. I didn't want to call David Dennis Two Lakes. I know he's got the kids there. I like to call him Dave, me personally, myself. But, you know, if you just know him from Silver Ball Chronicles, you might just call him good old Dave.
    41:40
    Or, sorry, David. Him and, of course, Ron Howlett co-host that. Well, let's see. Mr. David Dennis. And for those of you who did not see David Dennis' Christmas pictures, he looked like... You were so cool! Okay. Danielle absolutely loved him. I also love them. I want to do that. Can we do that? No! Are you kidding me? I'm going to get mad at you for David Dennis. How dare you give Brock Parker Daniel ideas. I love his suit, though. Look right there. Okay. I don't have that. I don't have David Dennis money. He's probably spent more on that suit than a Mandalorian topper. No. They don't have that much money.
    42:23
    So, David Dennis was not there. We're going to move on to poor man Ian. Now, Ian, no one's had him on the pod in a while, but I do hear rumblings that he might be coming back.
    42:38
    I hope he comes back to do something with Drew soon. Be nice to hear from Ian again, of course. Wouldn't we all love that?
    42:49
    Oh, my gosh. The second beer. We're supposed to sing Christmas songs between each thing? I don't know how that works. It makes it hard because there's at least so many That like you know all the words to Okay but what about Feliz Navidad The police stabbed my dad And Spangles I don't know the words No but there was that There was that band from London that sang The police stabbed my dad Instead Bob Noxious That was not the one. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who that is. Okay. So, next, we are going to call my dad. I think he's working. Should we push him back further?
    43:36
    I mean, probably. It's only like, it's not even 8 o'clock yet. Okay, let's try Rachel Risto. We were supposed to go to, like, not Rachel Lazar. That's Dan the Man's wife. Okay, here we go. Rachel Risto, she might answer.
    43:52
    Let's see. What about like the little drummer boy Do we know that one? Yeah Well I do Hello? Hello there Ho ho ho Merry Christmas Rachel It is I Santa Orby here Hello I'm so happy that you called me How are you, Santa? Are you tired? Has it been a long night to you yet? It has been a long night But if you'll just come over here and sit on Santa's lap I feel a lot better about that Sure I have no problem with that As long as Mrs. Claus doesn't either I'll have a nice seat right here Oh no, you're squishing my chestnuts Holy cow Okay, okay, no, I'm just kidding Oh, jeez. Now, Mrs. Claus, sometimes she does get jealous, though, so we better be careful. Speaking of, I do have Mrs. Claus here with me, Rachel, if you'd like to say hello. If you drop target Mrs. Claus, Danielle.
    45:04
    Hi. Hi, Mrs. Claus. You know, I'll just take a scoop off of Santa Claus, and I'll take the else little chair over here. No problem.
    45:16
    Santa Claus has a lot to manage, doesn't he? Oh, very much so. That's right. Oh, hold on.
    45:27
    Who's there? Oh, boy. Santa, Mrs. Claus called. She needs you for an emergency. Yes, no, with the owls. All of them. In there now. Go. Hello, Rachel?
    45:40
    Yes, I'm here. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. Santa got on my microphone and started calling people on my Facebook list again. well he seemed like a nice enough fella he seemed quite jolly he's a little bit of a perv he's kind of an old guy he kept asking me like what was in my butthole and I said the only people who can ask me that are my tribe member friends okay Santa like take it easy buddy right I would only do that I would only ask you that you know from the privacy of ourselves right I wouldn't ask you that I mean I think that's like some tribe members have a problem just going up to people and asking, but I'd like to, you know, be a little bit more on the DL about that. Yeah, like, some people might think you're a little strange if you randomly did that in the middle of a McDonald's, right? Especially if they responded with the only proper response, possibly astronauts or aliens. Then they look at you like you're a Canadian or something.
    46:36
    Or like you're a child member of the poor man's pillow podcast. Absolutely. Well, hey, listen. If a person has plumber crack hanging out, and they're just sitting there squatting there bending over, I may have to ask them what is inside their butthole. Because they deserve it. It's hard to ask. They deserve it. They're basically begging you to, like, they know. They can feel the strappy back there, and they're just going, I'm letting it all hang out. You're going to have to look at the view. I'm sorry. Full moon or not, here come the werewolves. I mean, how can you not? How can you not feel the trash? But, you know, that's how it goes.
    47:20
    So, I was really hoping that Sam would tell me if I was a good girl or a bad girl this year. Well, the thing is that I suspect, on a personal level, and I haven't actually got to hang out with you at a show or a tournament yet, but I suspect that after a couple drinks, you like to get a little naughty. However, your Tribe Multiball and now the Ray Ray Show, of course, with Raymond Davidson, Your two shows are so freaking rad, I'd have to say you're, like, at the top of Santa's nice list.
    47:48
    Like, I can see his list right here. You've been killing it this year. So I love both of those shows. And you can ask Danielle, because Danielle might be a little annoyed with you, though, Rachel. Why? Your theme song is so catchy that Glenn the Skateboarder made for the Ray Ray show. Yeah, it's great. That several times she's been like, can you stop singing that song? It's a great show It is an earworm And if I was better editing I'd put it in right now Isn't Glenn so talented?
    48:24
    Glenn is so talented I hope that he's on Santa's good list too But I'm really glad that I am on his good list Because obviously he looks the other way At Chicago Expo And at Houston Expo Uh oh I don't want to know what Are you talking about late night shenanigans?
    48:43
    Maybe. You know, just having a good time, that kind of stuff. But I think that Sam likes that because he's like, good job, Rachel. You know, sometimes he's got to break free. He's got to break free. You worked hard for that. You put together so many. I know you helped organize several women's tournaments this year, as well as running not one but two pinball podcasts. Plus, like, don't you have, like, I should have asked you this before. I have no clue, but do you have, like, a regular kind of 9-to-5 job, or, like, do you do other stuff, too? Wow. I do have a regular, an 8-to-5 job. 8-to-5. Woo, okay. I know. I'm a paralegal. Are you really? No. And no, I'm not going to answer any of those questions for free. Okay, listen. I fell on the ice. I'm not going to answer any of those questions for free. I just play them on the phone. I fell on the ice. I hit my head. I got a concussion. and I started buying pinball adventures games and home pin games from Korea. Is there something wrong with me? Oh.
    49:43
    I can give you a good referral. Okay. Okay, because, like, I should really be buying lots of, like, 90s pins and, like, awesome rad, you know, news ferns and JJPs, but instead I just started buying duds. I don't know what happened. Like, I started buying... I don't know. You buy whatever your heart desires or whatever your budget's able to afford. Well, like they say, one man's a turd, right? One man's turd is another man's diamond.
    50:11
    That's right. I love to go thrifting and antiquing and looking at other people's junk. Whoa, hey, whoa, come on, come on. I'll have to bring Santa back for that one. Pass the line. No, I'm just kidding.
    50:26
    Well, listen, it was great to chat with you. I want to just ask you, I've been asking, I want to try to start remembering now people because I keep forgetting but would you say that action buttons are they naughty or nice?
    50:44
    I'm going to say on the majority of games the action button is naughty I just don't understand the point of it I know that it adds little fancy features but I think it's this crazy mech on a game that's just not warranted. It's not needed. And I would say it's on the naughty list. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think Jeff Hewless would agree with you. I would also agree. Jeff, by the way, Jeff Hewless was just on the last phone call at, he was playing, believe it or not, my friend Mike Dynas of Pinball Shenanigans answered the phone, walked around and got everyone to say hi and wave to me and everything. So Jeff Hewless was there. My buddy Sean was there. So it's kind of neat. But what I was going to say is that the other day I was at this really cool record store in Moncton, which is you know, there's a lot of French people there. They're like super hipsters. They make me look like a normcore, okay? And they're all like cool, walking around with their cold cigarettes and they're buying their records and there's VHS videos there and cassettes and 8-tracks and cool old video games. No, they are. They're very cool people there. And I'm playing... Yeah, and I'm playing Star Wars looking like a freaking nerd. Like, I mean, super... Like, not even a nerd, like a dork. because I'm in TIE Fighter multiball and I'm cradling life with a whole bunch of balls and I'm using my head to hit the action button and I'm like, what are you doing? People are looking at me like, this man is insane. I think I almost got kicked out of the store.
    52:12
    Like, you're right up front with all these people in line. There's other things I could use for the action button. That's why I didn't do it, but just, quite frankly, just lean over. You know, like, frankly, my gut is usually able to help me out. Hey, there's... So just lean forward.
    52:32
    Stand there with both fingers on the buttons and just lean all the way forward on the gate. You'll be fine. But you can use your noggin. But you don't have to take a step back, right? Nor do you use your noggin? I don't know. But yes, I agree. It is just, um... I'm not a fan. That's it. Well, I don't want to steal too many lines from our fearless leader, Drew. But Stern, are you listening? Enough with the action buttons, because there's a rumor that the next machine has three action buttons. What? No, I'm just kidding. I made that up.
    53:02
    Wouldn't that be horrible? Just stop it, guys. Too many action buttons. I'm okay with a second set of buttons for flippers. I'm okay with that. So, you know, there might be a discussion there, too, if that's, you know, an okay thing. I'm fine with that. Okay, well, I'm going to ask you one more question before I call another pinball nerd here. Okay, what wish do you have for the pinball community? If you could just have, it's Christmas time, let's be a little sappy. Do you have one wish for the pinball community? And don't say that they leave the lights off for now at District 82. Don't say that, because I agree with you on that one. I think we both of us do. Thank you, thank you. But, like, do you have a wish that you would give out, not just, of course, to the tribe members, but just to the greater pinball community that might be listening? man I think my wish is the same for myself and for everybody is to you know love each other love yourselves take care of each other you know that's the most the big the best part of the pinball community for me is the people it's not even the games or the whoppers the money of trophies or any of that junk it's the people so I think that's my wish my happy staffy holiday wish is for everybody just to be kind to one another and keep an eye out for people in your local leagues and tournaments and just be kind and love each other.
    54:29
    Rachel. That was beautiful. I couldn't have said it better. That's who I am. Thank you. I almost cried. Really, that's the truth. And I hope that everybody listening just knows that, hey, someone loves you, including me. That's it. you're too kind, thank you so much Rachel, have an awesome night and honestly I am going to try to I'm not great at reaching out to people while I'm not on the show or if I haven't had a couple beers, I'm going to try to get better at doing that with the pinball community but I'm just so excited next year my only thing I'm asking Santa for is at least one trip down to the United States, I don't care if it's Expo, I don't care if it's TPF, I want to come down there and get to meet especially all the tribe members and all the other pinball nerds I haven't ever met before. And you're top of that list, so I hope to meet you. Oh, I can't wait. And, yeah, let me know. I can't wait. And if you end up here in my area, I'm just definitely going to bring you cheese curds and a little red carpet because all of us, you know, so many fans that are down here just can't wait to meet you and give you big hugs. Cheese curds. We have a very happy Christmas and a very, very merry, a very, very merry new year. You too. Thanks, Rachel. Have a great night. All right. Love you guys. Bye. Love you too. Isn't she such a sweetheart?
    55:46
    Cheese curd. Isn't she? She knows my heart. I know. Like, she doesn't even, if I told her that, she would think I was lying. That, like, literally one Christmas, all I asked for was cheese. Like, literally cheese. Do you know what I mean? That was great. Like, I think I ended up, you got me, like, what's called a cheese ladder. It's really dumb. It's the exact same cheese from the exact same cheesery, and it was kept at the exact same location at the St. Lawrence Market in Toronto, and I got a three-year-old cheddar, a five-year-old cheddar, a seven-year-old cheddar, a nine-year, an 11-year, a 13-year, a 16-year. I couldn't get the 15-year, and I actually got, believe it or not, an 18-year-old ridiculously, like you can find the odd 25-year-old cheese, but this particular cheddar, it's the oldest they had, and I think it was something crazy like $35 per 100 grams. And it actually tasted like, you had to eat it in order, but it actually tasted like mango, pineapple, and it smelled like a horse. Or like a horse's fable. Like, hey. Remember that? Yeah, it was delicious. Oh my god. I used to be a cheese nerd, guys. Okay, we're running long, but that's okay. I expected this might go up to two hours. I might need to go take a little tinkle at the old, go visit the old elves, make sure they're making the toys. Okay. But, let's call one or two more. I've got to stretch out my knees, too. I'm getting old. I can't sit like this. I'm cross-legged right now. I can't sit like this all night, guys. Come on. All right, next is Craig Bobby.
    57:17
    Oh, excuse me. So what are the chances? Can you hold my beer for a second? I've got to stretch out my legs. What are the chances? Hopefully the audio is coming out well, guys. I'm trying my best here. Dan's, the very first one, wasn't that great, but I think it's got better since then. Okay, I can still see the audio from there. Hopefully Chris can. Oh, my God. I'm an old Santa. Santa needs a massage for Christmas.
    57:41
    Could you get me a, honey, can we get a live-in personal masseuse? I would love that. And I know you're thinking I want it to be like some young, hot lady. No, I want it to be a man, because I've got massages from both men and women. I remember the George Costanza, yeah, it moved a little. That didn't happen to me, thank God.
    58:00
    But, oh, Tim the Lion Man Lee's calling. Let's answer it. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas, Tim. Merry Christmas, Santa Orby.
    58:18
    Well, thank you so much for calling back, Mr. Lion Man. I hear that you've been a naughty boy this year.
    58:26
    I have been. I have been. Have you been creating FOMO around the pinball machine Halloween? I have but not on purpose I'm just kidding you've been a very good boy I just got off the phone with your co-host Rachel and I've never spoke with her before but she seems lovely she is awesome now the one question I have for you you're already on one of the most rad pinball podcasts in the world, of course, try Multiball, which is one of my personal favorites here at the North Pole. All the elves listen every time a new one comes out. And I would say, when your podcast comes on, they make at least 20% more toys.
    59:18
    Oh, nice. Thank you. Hey, you already have this super successful podcast, and now you've started another. Could you tell us about your newest podcast venture? Oh my My newest podcast venture Is simply just a show Here and there That doesn't replace Tribe Multi-Ball But it started with my kids And it's just kind of a When me and one of my buddies want to Talk about something And they want to be on a podcast We'll just fire up an episode and talk about something Usually with Tim the Lion Man Lee telling them That they're wrong about something but all in good fun and all in love for my best friend. But no, it's just a one-off, two-off show here and there, just for fun. And what is it called? Rachel and I Can't Get It Singed. Yep. What's the name of it? It is called Life Lessons with Tim Lee, the worst name in pinball podcasting.
    60:19
    Oh, hold on. There seems to be someone at Mighty Blue Door. Santa, come quickly. There's an emergency. One of the elves chopped off their finger. They need you to get the slave. Go to the nearest hospital in Whitehorse, Canada.
    60:32
    Oh, no. There goes Santa. Hey, Tim, how's it going, buddy? Good. How are you? Not too bad. That Santa, he's been being naughty and calling people on my Facebook again. I said, hey, Santa. Listen, you can't just get your own. He creeps on my Facebook. He won't even get his own. Now, listen, I heard you're at, are you at Helicon tonight?
    60:55
    I am, I just left Helicon Brewery for the, they're having the Helicon Open this weekend. I heard that, and there's like $2,500 worth of prizes, including $1,000 for Raymond Davidson, who will clearly win the whole thing, right?
    61:12
    Raymond isn't there, but there are a couple of heavy hitters there that are probably going to like my donation to the pot.
    61:21
    So who are kind of expected to win? Any big names we know? So there's AK, Alexander Kuzmetschek.
    61:35
    Tim, I've done 500 episodes and I always mess up his name. So, yes, Alexander K. He's incredible. He was number one in the world for a while, and I think he's still like top 20 or something, right?
    61:46
    Yep, yes. And Chris Stevens is there. Chris Stevens also has been on the Pinball Nerds podcast previously. incredible local player there in Pittsburgh, of course. Always does, like we've seen him on stage at Pembroke at least once, if not twice, so we know, you know, if you can get to the final stage, the final round, so to speak, at Pembroke, you must be doing something, right? He's incredible. Did you say he was the one who took you out at Classics last night?
    62:12
    Yes, yes. He walked in maybe an hour before qualifying was over, played five games, qualified on all five games, jumped up into one of the eight spots, and unfortunately, I had to play him, but I tell you what, I'm glad he knocked me out, because he turns out to be a really nice guy, and we had a lot of fun. He is genuinely, like, super nice. He also is very knowledgeable about the rule sets. He's also one of these guys that will, like, tell you every secret, even though he's playing with you on the game in the middle of it. Okay, maybe not on stage at, like, Pemberton A finals, but leading up to that, I had the pleasure of, like I said, getting to meet him only the one time, but he's an incredible player. He's a nice guy. And I heard even you made it to the finals last night in Classics?
    63:01
    Yeah, I made it in and then got knocked out. I didn't make it today. They had a Classics tournament today, and I was in the last qualifying spot until five minutes before it ended, and somebody knocked me out. so that is why I have left the facility because I didn't make classics, but I'm still in a spot for the main tournament tomorrow. Oh, nice. Okay. Well, good luck tomorrow. I am here with my wonderful wife, Drop Target Danielle. She wanted to say hi quickly, Tim. Hello.
    63:32
    Hello, Danielle. How's it going? It's going great. How are you all? That's awesome. we just want to thank you so much for supporting our business as well.
    63:46
    Yes, yes. The lovely Amy Lee just told me before I left the helipad, you need to order more of that angry alpaca coffee. I really enjoyed it. Oh, it's fantastic. Well, do not feel obligated. I'll get you another order. Yeah, I always tell all my friends, please don't feel obligated. like literally if you were already going to buy like awesome local you know organic coffee or tea from your local place sure maybe you could help us out instead but let's be honest if you're used to buying like Nabob for $9.99 for 100 cups you know you're probably not my target market right so I always say hey if you love the product order some make sure you order at least two bags so we can get that shipping down for you but honestly I just I really appreciate the support I named you and everyone else who bought it at the start. I did 490 episodes without advertising for anything, even though I got contacted for sponsorships. And, you know, I just said, nah, I just kind of want to be, you know, I don't get enough listens really to make that beneficial. And at the same time, I just, you know, want to be my own authentic self and make sure I wasn't getting pushed one way or the other. But at the same time, I get like, believe me, if Stern knocked on my door and was like, Albert, we'll give you a hundred bucks per podcast, it would be hard for me to say no and put in a little buy, buy, buy commercial at the end, right? It'd be tricky because I could use that money, but at the same time, I like kind of just, I like being able to be self-funded in the fact that when I'm trying to tell you something about pinball, it has nothing to do with coffee, so you know that I'm, maybe I'm lying a little when I'm talking about the coffee, but I'm not, because you told me on Saturdays you and your wife have it and you absolutely love it. Now listen, I have to call a lot of people tonight. I have quite a few people on the list. I did give Glenn the skateboarder a call. He was not able to answer at this time. Can you think of anyone who you really think I should try to call who maybe I don't have on the list?
    65:43
    Did you call Jonathan Hall? He's on the list. I think he's three more down. It goes Craig Bobby, then Jonathan Hall, so he's coming up very soon.
    65:54
    Okay, yeah, Jonathan Hall, skateboarder Glenn, Rachel I have Keith Ellwyn on there I have Keith Ellwyn I have Jack Danger I have your good buddy Kaneda there, your best friend no I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding I know you guys said Brecky or something at Expo right? Zach Many of course now I'm not going to call Dennis because Dennis has posted that he has a 5k a Santa 5k early in the morning he doesn't need me calling him, bugging him right? but I'll ask you the same thing that I do I'm trying to keep this under two hours, and we're already well over an hour, so I'll ask you the same question I asked Rachel, and it's a little bit of a loaded question, so if you take a second to answer, it's totally okay. But what, you know, it's Christmas time, you know, everybody's being a little nicer. What is your one wish? What would your one wish be, not just for all the Tribe members and all the Tribe members, the Poor Man's fans, but for all of the people in the pinball community who are listening? Do you have one message that you'd like, maybe something you'd like to see happen more so next year in 2023? so I actually would like to see one just big large tribe get together if we can make it happen we had it at Expo with 20 people and you know we had a mini tribe meet up in Cincinnati but I really enjoyed that and I'm not talking about a show it would be awesome to just organize something where we all get together because it's such a good group of people So that's what I would want to see happen, you know, outside of, you know, pinball all together. And I really want Drew to come see me in Pittsburgh. I've gone to him a few times. My Christmas wish to Santa is for Drew to come visit me in Pittsburgh in 2023. Ho, ho, ho. Well, I'll tell you what, Tim. I'm going to talk to Drew and see if I can make that happen, because once we get on my sleigh, we'll be there lickety-split. quicker than Rudolph taking off the shine off his red nose.
    68:00
    Okay. Thank you, Santa. Oh, my God. I'm sorry, too. Okay. That was so fun. Listen, I love you, buddy. I'll talk to you soon. Thank you so much for everything you've ever contributed. Honestly, to this day, Danielle, probably her favorite skit ever was when he did the Groundhog Day one. Oh, yeah. That was great.
    68:19
    And you know what? I will throw an exclusive out here. I do want to do Patreon next year, especially because my coffee and tea season is wrapping up, and we don't really get going and have too much fresh product holding inventory until about April when the markets start up again. So I'm really hoping to, fingers crossed, do Patreon next year. And the only reason I want to do it is so that I can help get all Glenn's songs out there on a CD, like make a CD mixtape like we used to in high school and college. And I want the secret song to be your skit from Groundhog Day. okay that would be awesome would that be great I think it's fun yeah that would be fantastic oh hey I love you all Merry Christmas good to chat buddy have a great night thanks for everything you do for pinball cheers bye okay I'm getting a little drunk but not fine do you want to maybe pass me a tea so I can go like because I've got beer beer and I should maybe have a tea somewhere in there sure that was great thanks so much Tim. Okay, who's up next? I'm trying to keep it under two hours. Wait, did I call Craig Bobby or I did or I didn't? I forget.
    69:27
    I don't think so. I think I was about to call Craig Bobby. And Tim called. Okay, this is great. That was awesome.
    69:37
    Okay, here we go. Craig Bobby. Good old Steve Bobby. That's the most listens I ever got. Now, it was my first episode over here, but I feel bad. I should talk to Craig Bobby more often than I do. A lot of these people honestly, like, I should spend more time in there and keep contacting them, and then sometimes I forget, and I feel bad, and I'm like, you're such a bad pinball nerd. You're on the naughty list, or me.
    70:01
    Aw, geez, Rick. Rick, how come you get to choose all the adventures? Aw, geez, Rick. Morty. No, no, no, no. The Morty's okay. The Rick is just horrible. Okay, D-Bobby is probably, he's probably getting ready for the pinball show, the updates. Probably my favorite part of the pinball show. I mean, the whole thing's good, but I especially do love Craig Bobby's updates. Who doesn't, really? Come on, when you hear that sound and you know you're going to get all the week's news and a little bit of rumor and splashed in with a little bit of good old Craig Bobby opinionados, it's wonderful. Okay, we should be calling Jonathan Hall next. Oh, thanks, love. Look at Mrs. Santa bringing over 60% eggnog, 40% chocolate milk, but we're all out of eggnog, aren't we? Yeah, we are. It's so lame. I shouldn't even tell you when I'm drinking tea in between. Why? I don't know, because it's, like, cooler just to, like, chug beers, bruh. I don't know. That's just dumb. Oh, no, I'm calling Craig Bobby again. No, no, no, no, don't call Craig Bobby. Oh, no, I was supposed to call John Stump. Okay.
    71:13
    Oh, excuse me. Guys, oh, Jesus. Pardon me. That was rude. That was not cool. Hope you guys aren't hating the Santa voice. Probably sick of it. But I kind of said I was going to do that. That's the schtick for today. I'm sorry. If Santa ain't your schtick, go get a piece of juicy fruit. Juicy fruit. The taste will move ya. It gets the taste. It gets right to ya. Juicy fruit. The taste, the taste, the taste, the taste, the taste, the taste, the taste, the taste, the move. Yeah.
    71:47
    Is that how it goes? That is so annoying. What? Why? I thought that's how it goes. For one, you have so many words. It's not right. No. Why? I thought it was... Hello!
    72:00
    Albert! Howdy! Ho, ho, ho! Merry Christmas! Orbital Albert's just stepped outside to have a little vaporizer, But it is I, the one and only Santa in the North Pole How are you doing tonight, Jonathan Hall? Oh my, it's so nice to talk to you You've probably never spoke to someone live at the North Pole before, have you? No, not live, only in post That's right, I used to call that Santa phone number too Word to the wise, those are just my elves pretending to be me But I'm the real Santa Oh wow Incredible.
    72:43
    Oh, hold on a second. Who's there? Open up. Open the door. Santa, what are you doing on my Facebook again, you son of a bitch? Hello, Jonathan Hall?
    72:58
    Yes. Oh, my God. Hi, it's Orby here. Santa frickin' broke into my laptop again. I don't know what he's doing. I'm sorry. Was he harassing you?
    73:07
    No, he was actually very nice. Oh, okay. Because he's really weird. He keeps calling tribe members, and the only thing he'll ask them is, what's inside your butthole?
    73:18
    And it's just like, dude, that's a little bit awkward. Like, you don't even know them that well, you know what I mean? Now, obviously, the only clear answer is astronauts and aliens.
    73:27
    Am I right? Yes? Oh, yeah. Anyways. Are you there? Sorry, I lost you. Oh, no worries, no worries. I thought you were offended by my butthole question. Oh, no, I didn't hear that.
    73:44
    No, I just said, you know, when a tribe member runs up to you and they say, hey, I wonder what's inside your butthole, if someone from outside the tribe hears that, they just go, what the hell?
    73:55
    I don't know. Everybody knows that. That's world famous by now. And for those that may not know, Johnston Hall is the crowd favorite who's usually with Mr. and through, Bo Struvere, our fearless leader from the Poor Man's Pinball Network, of course. What are you doing tonight, buddy? What's going on?
    74:12
    I am at a hockey tournament with my son this weekend at a resort. It's kind of nice, actually. We're having a good time. Okay. Well, I mean, I hope he's not on the ice. I'm not making him miss his shift where he scores more goals than Sidney Crosby, am I?
    74:28
    No, he scored one goal this morning. It was pretty sweet. But no, we're about to hit the arcade. Oh, my God. Okay, well, I won't keep you for very long. Yeah, it's good. to talk to you for sure. I'm glad you called me up. I was hoping I would get this call. That's awesome. Well, I did. Speaking to Tim the Lion Man Lee, and I said, he was just leaving Halicon, and I said, well, who do I have to make sure I call from the tribe members? Now, everybody who liked the post, I figured, is safe to at least try calling. Most people are unavailable because it's a Saturday night, like a week from Christmas. I get it. There's sports, there's kids, there's arcades, there's pinball tournaments. But thank you so much for answering.
    75:08
    I just, the big question I'm asking everybody, if you had just one wish, you know it's Christmas time, everybody's a little more snappy, we're all trying to be a little more nice, and it doesn't mean that your answer has to be, but if you had just one wish for the pinball community next year, what would it be?
    75:27
    Oh man, that could be a deep question. It's loaded. No, it's loaded. It's a little bit deep. Just first thing, now let me guess, your first answer was you need a pinball machine with way more action buttons because one is not enough. That's exactly right. I'm on the top of the trip. Oh, okay. Here's an easier question. Are action buttons naughty or nice?
    75:52
    One action button's nice. Multiple buttons are naughty. I think if I had one thing always, it's that everybody just be nice and get along. Stop being so overly opinionated.
    76:06
    Oh, drop target, Danielle. my wonderful wife is here shaking her head. She agrees with you, Jonathan. I do. I agree wholeheartedly.
    76:16
    Danielle, you place on my refrigerator with your what is that called? It's not a holograph but the multicolored sticker that I got. It's a holographic sticker card. Who said sticker? I had to send you this photograph. I took it and I was in there with all my football machines in the garage. Yeah. and it was a public spot of a sticker on the earphones and I was there and all the lights were off and then the sticker the way it was, it was just like glowing and it was on.
    76:51
    So, yeah, I said, I said, Albert and Daniel were speaking to me. I'll send you the photo. I forgot to send it to you. It's hilarious. Jonathan, that's so awesome. Now, listen, do your, like, what are your good buddies, do they call you John, J-Man, Mr. Hallman? Like, what do your good buddies call you? Is it Jonathan? Well, formally, most people call me J-Hall.
    77:15
    That's what most of the tribe called you, too. So, like, that makes sense, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think they're rude. Don't be, John.
    77:23
    Friggin' mean. Okay, so do I know you good enough I can call you J-Hall? Absolutely. You would? Okay. Okay, you wouldn't hang up on me or be like, F-you, Orby. Get out of here. Never, never, absolutely not. It's a pleasure.
    77:42
    Hey, man, well, listen, thank you so much. I'm going to be calling some other, I'm kind of going back and forth. I'm calling one Canadian, one American, one Canadian, one American. Honestly, more Americans are answering, which I really appreciate. Is there anyone on the list that you think, like, I know someone said I have to call Josh Mudd, so I'm going to try, and if that guy picks up live stream and he's doing, like, one-handed push-ups, I would not be surprised, okay? but yeah I mean you know as always Glenn uh Billy YJ yeah Jeremy Jeremy Smith is awesome I mean you know the list goes on man um Andrew Payne is a good one too for sure Drew Andrew Payne a good dude Yeah Oh man the list is so long You know, everybody. Everybody. J-Hall, I love your list. I thought you were going to say, like, Steve Ritchie, Pat Lawler, Jack Danger, Zach Menny, Kaneda. I was like, holy shit. You're keeping it real. You're keeping it bubble. Keeping it in the tribe, man. I love it. Yeah, keeping it in the bubble. Damn. Okay. Now listen, I don't want you to give an exclusive or anything, I don't want Drew to be upset with you but can we expect to hear you at least one, two more times hopefully in the future back on there with Drew?
    78:58
    I think so, I think so we might have an episode coming very soon in the next few days actually so you've got to be on plan Okay, you guys heard it We're going to have a doobie doo discussion in a couple days and I'm looking forward to it Well, I'm also looking forward to it, and I think that really, we need more conversation about it, because without a live stream and without really seeing, with the minimal gameplay we've seen, you know, there's I don't want to go too deep in the woods, I'll leave that for you guys to do it, but Jonathan Hall, listen, I love you, bro. Oh, I wanted to give a big thank you for supporting Andrew Alpaca and ordering the awesome coffee. That's how you got the holographic picture. Just give me like the quick, like the cold notes. Did you like the coffee? I'm not gonna cry. Why? If you didn't like it, if it was garbage and you threw it out, it's okay, but just tell me. did you at least like the coffee? Was it edible? Was it better than McDonald's?
    79:49
    Yeah, I really enjoyed it, actually. We have an espresso machine that grinds some beans and stuff, so I was making espresso with it, so I got the light blend. City Lights?
    80:03
    Yeah, City Lights. We went through it, and I need to probably replace the reorder pretty soon. And I'm not shying you. It was good. I really enjoyed it. Okay. I mean, I feel like now that I can call you J-Hall, you tell me the truth if it was shite. If you said, oh, it's no good, we had to throw it out, okay. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Don't feel obligated, but if, you know, if you order, I'm not going to be upset, I'll tell you that. But, hey, listen, thank you so much. Wish your son best of luck. I hope he wins the hockey game. Whereabouts are we calling? I should be asking this every phone call, but whereabouts are you before I let you go?
    80:37
    We are in, currently in the mountains of Tennessee in Sevierville, so close to Dollywood, if you're familiar with that saying.
    80:47
    We're in theme park land, but we're East Tennessee still. Wow! I did not know that in the mountains of Tennessee that y'all liked cocky. I just didn't know. That's just me being ignorant. I had no clue. I thought it was more so like Michigan and like where Drew lives and like, you know what I mean? Like Minnesota and like Maine and New York State. I didn't know it was down there in Tennessee. That's awesome. I guess up there in Tennessee You're up in the mountains, so that's awesome. It is certainly more popular in the north than it is here, but we're doing our best to scrape together a few people who like to play. We're having fun. That's awesome. So here I am, a good old Canadian who my favorite sport to watch is hockey, good old Edmonton Oilers, of course, and yet your son is way better at hockey than either of my sons who don't like hockey and won't even watch it with me. Who's your favorite hockey team? He's nine. He's nine, but we're learning off sides right now. Okay. That's the big thing. That's the big lesson here, let me. Dude, I didn't even... And don't be offside. I didn't figure out offside until I was like 12, so he's doing fine. Last, very last question. Who's your favorite hockey team?
    81:59
    The Predators, for sure. Well, it has to be the National Predators. You have to say that, or else when you go back to your hometown, your buddies will just be like, dude, come on. Well, anyway, the Oilers are going to destroy the Predators. We all know that, but, you know, we'll still be friends after that, J-Hall. I love you, bro. Have a great time at the tournament. Have fun at the arcade. And thanks for chatting. Hopefully we'll get to talk soon. Love you, too, bud. Thanks for calling. Bye, Danielle. Talk to you soon. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Yeah, Merry Christmas. Happy Festivus. Bye.
    82:30
    That was great. Okay. Oh, my gosh. Honey, how much time are we at? 1.22. Oh, my gosh. Okay, I have to pee. so everyone didn't need to know that. At least I wasn't like, I'll have to take a giant deuce. Santa has to go use the handmade elf toilet paper quickly. Let's try calling my dad because I think... Oh, excuse me. You can keep a conversation up with him. Well, he could. Yeah, my dad could do just... The apple does not fall that far from the agar tree. People do just fine. Wait, we should sing a Christian holy song. Oh, holy night The stars were brightly shining And then Kirk answered Hello?
    83:17
    Hello? Oh, it looks like he hung up. Oh, share video. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can do video. Hi. Hello. Hello, everybody. You're going to, just before you say, oh, nice Christmas tree. Okay, before you say anything incriminating, Dad, and you talk about that money laundering scheme or the Ponzi pyramid, I want to let you know we're recording live on the Poor Man's Pitbull Network, okay?
    83:48
    She's at work. Yes, well, thank you for telling us work wanted, which we weren't even asking about, but it appears with your video on, your audio doesn't work as well, and that quite often happens. So, well, you guys have an interesting conversation. If I can't hear you and you can't hear me, I'm going to go take a piss. Here, talk to my dad. Make sure you're talking to the microphone. Okay, guys, sorry if I'm gone for a second. Just tell my dad that I said Merry Christmas and ask him if he has one wish for the pinball community for next year. Okay. And don't cry. Live on there. Hi.
    84:22
    Yes, how are you doing, girl? I'm good. How are you doing? Actually, quite good. Quite good. Are you? I didn't totally hear what he said, so I answered the best way I could. That's okay. Oh, he did. I got a small little dryness cold. Do you? So my hearing nasal isn't 100%. Besides that, I'm doing great. Oh, that's good. I'll take a break from that. He wanted to let you know that he's recording it and that it's, like, going to be podcasted out just so that you were aware.
    84:57
    Oh, okay. Good. Now, the tea is getting there better. I never do this. There, with the lights on. That looks awesome.
    85:13
    Your tree looks great. I decorated it. Did you really? You can't help decorating. No, he just turned the lights on. I literally keep decorating Christmas tree.
    85:26
    Looking good. Yeah, there's ours. Ho, ho, ho. It is I, Santa, here. And I'm wondering what you'd like for Christmas, Mr. Agar. Ho, ho, ho.
    85:43
    No, no, stop. That's too much. We can't afford those here. Nothing. I'm doing good, but I'm doing really good. Yes.
    85:55
    Well, I don't know if you heard, but you're actually live on the podcast right now. So before I let you go, did you have anything else you wanted to say? We are live.
    86:05
    December the 17th. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I haven't edited yet. Don't say the date. No, I'm just kidding. It's fine. Look at this. Danielle's got me a tea over here. My dad's got the video on. Danielle's got me a tea here.
    86:19
    I got a beer happening over here, and I got Santa's little pipe happening over here, of course. Only tobacco. No, only candy cane. That's the only thing I smoke in this pipe is candy cane, pure candy cane.
    86:33
    So listen, I'm going to let you go, but I want you to be serious and tell everybody at home who is listening, some people might call our tree ugly because it's not perfect from a tree farm, you know, but we cut it down ourselves on our own property. Was the tree beautiful or not?
    86:51
    I think it was awesome. It was a very good tree. Guys, you heard it from my dad. He wouldn't lie. Now listen, zero to ten, how much do you love pinball?
    87:03
    Oh, hang on. I might have a delivery. Oh, you've got a delivery from the North Pole, have you? Oh, something from Amazon.
    87:20
    Something from Amazon? Is that a pinball machine I see? Ah, I can't really tell yet. Okay. Well, listen, Kirk. It's a very white one.
    87:36
    It is I, Santa here. Your son had to leave for an emergency to help drop Target Danielle, but he's going to give you a call tomorrow.
    87:46
    And here's a ho-ho-ho. At the church community festival tomorrow, outdoor Christmas carols. Oh, no religious talk here. Santa's name is Saint Nickel.
    87:57
    Oh, so wait, Santa's dad is also Santa? Ah, there you go. It runs to the generations. Oh. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas. We'll see you later. Bye. Love it.
    88:19
    Jesus. He didn't hear. His hearing is going. So what happens is when... You know what we used to do? They'll stop that because he's got like... No, I know that. But when they put the video on, they can't hold the phone to their ears so they can barely freaking hear it. Plus, we're talking through this dumb mic through this thing, so it's not even their fault. But let's call Joe Chervino. I don't know why I thought my dad's phone call would make sense, but it was still nice to chat with him. I'm going to try to stick to pinball people. I think that's probably the preference. We are getting, are we at an hour 40? Oh, my God. Is that seriously? Is that for real? No. I don't know. No, hour 26.
    88:54
    Oh, we got tons of time. Okay, what's a Christmas song we can sing? Don't the red nose reindeer. We are just saying, Rubo. We did shiny nose. Shiny nose. And if you ever saw it. Saw it. You would even say it glows. It blows. Just like Hot Wheels from American Pinball. The sound effects sound like crap. It's almost like you're at the garage. Or working at a car factory. No, I'm just kidding. That's Christmas. Let's be positive. I'm sorry. I do want to get David Fix on the show someday, so I should be nice. Joe Chervino, let's pretend we're hanging up on him. Bye. Hey, guys. It's Joe here from Pinball Degenerates. I'm off getting another poster slash T-shirt slash Degenerate hoodie slash Degenerate. Oh, my gosh. Have you seen those new pictures? Yeah. Aren't they awesome? They are really awesome. Is that literally the first thing I asked for for Christmas? It sure is. Because it's Christmas. I hope it comes in time. Aw, jeez, Rick, I hope I get my pinball degenerates Aw, jeez Aw, jeez, Rick, I hope I get my pinball degenerates What was I doing? What was I moving into? You were doing a battle earlier Aw, jeez, Rick, I'm sorry, I'm drunk now Wait, I can do poopy butthole, man Try it, let's see it Aw, wowee What's he say?
    90:20
    Wowee Aw, shucks, I like to put Pain on my butthole and then makes stamps on the ground the size of a starfish. I don't know. I don't know what he says. He's Mr. Poopy Butthole. You think he's Mr. Poopy Butthole. For those of you who haven't seen Rick and Morty, go watch it or don't because if you're easily offended, Rick and Morty's not the show for you. No, it's not. I will say this. Sometimes when you... Yeah. Sometimes when you're watching the last season and your kids happen to be in the room, you're like, this is awkward. Maybe we'll watch this one later and you guys can watch it separately, right? I've always been kids at school. Like, little kids. Little kids? Like, grade three, grade four. No. No, that's too young. I know.
    90:58
    But you know what? Parents, you know, parents got to make their own decisions. And maybe parents, like, I don't know every friggin' show that my son's ever watched, right? So it could be possible. Poor man, he always tried to call my dad, Rachel Craig Bobby, Joe Cervino, Brian Cosner. The Cosman. Who's that? Brian Cosner. He used to be part of the, on the pinball show. He used to be one of the, what do they call them? Interns? Kind of like they do the... it doesn't matter. He's awesome. Brian Cause. Just know who he is. Love who he is. And hopefully we chat with Cause.
    91:33
    Because it's Christmas. What about we three kings of Orient are? What, Good King Wenceslas? No, that's a totally different wrong king song, yo. That is a totally different one. La la walking Wenceslas On the feast of Stephen No? Hello Ho ho ho Merry Christmas Brian Ah Merry Christmas Orby It is not Orby It is Santa here at the North Pole Of course Kaz I mean Brian Santa Orby How is your night going, Kaz?
    92:25
    I'm doing good, doing good. Well, let me tell you, the elves have all gone to bed after a long day of pinball making, and they are so tired. Now, I told them not to, but they insisted on having two action buttons on the latest pin. I thought that was very naughty. What do you think? Two action buttons on a pinball machine? Is that naughty or nice?
    92:50
    I think we need four, like the riverboat gambler. Okay, hold on one second. I just need to write it. Brian Cosner, on the Nazi list. Okay, so now that you'll be getting no presents except for a lump of coal from my butthole, I'm wondering if you would like to elaborate on the four... No, I'm just kidding. Hold on, hold on a second.
    93:14
    Santa, Santa, get the hell out of my computer. What are you doing? Jesus. is. Cause, how's it going, buddy?
    93:21
    Doing good. Okay, I had to kick Santa the hell out of here. He keeps breaking onto my laptop. I gotta stop setting my password as tribe number 26. I think that's how he figured it out. So, how you been doing, though? He just wants to eat your cookies and drink your milk. He can have the cookies and milk. The goat milk is too precious. I need that for the cheese.
    93:43
    Once every month I get enough for cheese. I'll share the maple syrup I'll give him a little sip of the syrup so okay I totally forget pardon my first of all I should introduce my wonderful wife Drop Target Danielle she's here say hi to Cause hi hello I'm just curious whereabouts are you in the I know you're in the United States of America but I forget exactly where you live don't be mad at me I am in Virginia West Virginia No, not Yee-haw Woo-hoo It's regular Virginia Yee-haw I'm a West Virginia No, no, I'm just kidding What? I know, it's hard to It's hard to keep track of all the states Since there's 50 And you guys don't have as many If you want to call it states The provinces I don't know the Canadian provinces Yeah, Virginia is for lovers What does that mean? Like they're state models But what does that mean? Is there, like, a lot of, like, orgies and stuff happening? I don't get it. Why is that? What does that mean? You can love anything. You can have Virginias for pinball lovers or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. I remember we got a bumper sticker when we were driving to there when I was a kid. You've been to Virginia? I've driven there, yeah. Did you hang out with Coz? I was, like, grade nine. You guys probably... You probably saw each other at an arcade and you were like, wow, she's a pretty cool Canadian chick. Like the Burger King. Yeah. There you go. It could have happened. So for those who might not know, of course, on the Four Men's Pinball Network, you're used to being on like the highbrow network over there on the pinball network, right? But you used to do the updates for which pinball companies?
    95:31
    I used to help out with the pinball show and do the American pinball segment. But now they just get Craig Bobby to generally do all the news. it just streamlined a little bit. A lot of the correspondents had to go their separate ways and different things going on, so they just kind of canceled that. It's a lot of freaking work. Now, let's be honest. If you don't want to answer this question, you just say, Albert, pass, okay? Like, I will not be offended. Okay. But did you get fired by Craig Bobby or Zach Menning? Or was that, like, did they make Dennis do that? Like, it was just a, decision that they were going to go, I think that they were going to go to more of an all-video format show. Yeah. And that didn't last but a couple episodes, I don't think. So basically, what you're saying is that you got a call from Marty Robbins in Australia. He said, look, I'm sorry, mate. We're doing all of it. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. It's all good. But listen, thanks for your years of entertainment. I mean, were you one of the guys who was over on, you were with Ken Cromwell, right? Weren't you on Special and Let First? yeah just a little bit I don't know how many you know maybe segments I contributed to them you know it probably was 10 or 15 or something like that it was 2019 it was before they switched over to being all together with the pinball network I did help out 10 for a few episodes and actually it looks like they're coming back for some episodes I don't know if that's going to be a cause I heard that or just the one so it doesn't matter I'm just excited to hear you know Ken back with Bill and Steve and it's going to be great now I have to ask you the same question I've asked several other people we've got to speak with Rachel Risco, Tend the Lion Man Lee oh excuse me Santa's got a little cold um I'm just curious if you had one message to give the pinball community for next year what would it be and I know it's a bit of a loaded question so if to take a second to think of it, it's totally okay. I know you're not going to say, like, okay, guys, no more action buttons. You're not going to say, like, oh, I want three flipper buttons on each side. I figure that you're not going to say, jeez, I'd like pinball prices to go higher. But I'm just wondering if you kind of have a message for not just all the tribe members listening, but of course, just the general pinball public, all the listeners out there in their little Christmas pajamas, cuddled up listening to the show tonight. Do you have a message for them? fire. Yes, besides the kindling fire. We should have had that in the background.
    98:12
    The crackling logs. Blistening fire. My message? Let's see. I would say just have fun playing pinball. Go out there to a show. Go to Expo. Go to TPF. Go to Midwest Gaming Classic. Go to any of these shows. I don't know. There's 20 different shows to go to. Go to a show. meet some fellow pinball fans and have fun.
    98:40
    Cause, I love that. Because, you know, sometimes I see these guys and there's nothing wrong with that, but I see these guys with like $20,000 collections but they very, very... 20,000? You mean like 200,000? No, I'm even talking like guys that aren't super rich. I'm talking about guys who have like the guys who have the $50,000 collections friggin' they better be flying all over going to every show. But if you're just like a poor man like me and you just, you know, like especially when I had the arcade kick in here anyways, even between all my machines, I think I only had 15 grand worth with my five machines, because I like to sprinkle in some EMs, I'm not just a stern guy, but let's even just say, we'll say to be realistic, $20,000 to $40,000 collection, you know what, sell one machine, or drop one machine from a more expensive one to a lesser one, and spend that money on location pinball, spend that money going to a show, and meeting all these people that you get to hear on podcasts, and live streams and Twitch and go out there and support a local show. Because for a while there, we thought we might lose location pinball. We thought we might lose, like, look how many tournaments were canceled for so many years and how many shows were canceled, right? So get out there and just sacrifice, like, buy one less Mandalorian topper and go to, like, frickin' TPS or go to Expo or wherever. You know what I mean?
    99:57
    Yeah, I mean, it doesn't cost much money to go, especially if you've got one close by that you can drive to. But, yeah, if you have to stay in a hotel for a night or two or something like that, it can get a little more costly. But still, I think it's doable for most people. If I could say one thing, just go to a show. I went to Expo the last few years and really enjoyed that.
    100:20
    Cause, I absolutely love that. You're a man after my own heart. And that being said, I just talked to Santa in the back room, and he told me he's going to make sure that I get out to at least one show. Because, of course, top of my list is to meet everybody from the tribe. Because when I see you, that gives me the worst FOMO. I don't even care if I see a picture of Steve Ritchie, Pat Lawler, and Keith Elwin all playing pinball on a stage. I go, yeah, that's cool. It would have been nice to see that. But when I see all the poor men hanging out together, and you've got Drew there, and even Ian was at the last one, and all the awesome tribe members, I go, fuck, I wish I was there. I would trade my left chestnut to be able to be there, you know, roasting on the open fire. I would go. Oh, yeah. It was so much fun. You had Expo. They had the four-man booth. And I tell you, that was probably one of the busiest booths at the whole entire Expo. Everybody was stopping by there. And that has nothing to do with the free beers you guys gave away, right?
    101:15
    I think Drew was giving away free DVDs or something like that. Oh, my. Okay, well, let's not talk about Drew's DVD collection. This is a very family-friendly show. No, I'm just definitely not. I'm over on the poor man's down, I can swear. There's a 0% chance that either of my children will ever care enough to listen to this, so I don't really care.
    101:39
    But, hey, Cod, it was great to talk to you. I am off next to call Mr. Christopher Franchi is next. Hopefully he answers. I don't know if he will. Thank you. Honestly, only like one in three, one in four people are answering because, let's be honest, I didn't give you guys lots of heads up in time and energy, and it's a Saturday night a week before Christmas. Everybody is busy. But I just wanted to thank you for everything you do for pinball and wish you a very Merry Christmas. Yes, sir. Thank you. Wish everybody a Merry Christmas, happy holidays, have fun with the family, and have fun playing pinball. And happy Festivus for the rest of us. Take it easy, Kaz. Yes, sir. Cheers, buddy. That was so cool. Okay, what's our running time? 146. I'm trying to keep it under two hours. Honey, look at this list. 142. Christopher Franchi, Doug Parsons, Sean Russell, Go Peaceman. Joe Sovad. Okay, let's try to go faster. So you don't answer on like the third ring, do I just? If you call back, I'll answer now. It was Whiskey Tasting was Facey? Oh, Glenn. Honey, do you need a Glenn? Do it. Call Glenn. Everybody needs a Glenn in their life. A Glenn. A Glenn the Skateboarder. In their life.
    102:47
    Shrinky dinky dinky dink, shrinky dinky doo. I love you, Glenda Skateboarder. I love you. Aw. Do I hear Dr. Daniel in the background? Hi.
    103:05
    Hello, Merry Christmas. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas, Glenda Skateboarder. Have you been a naughty boy or a nice boy this year?
    103:19
    Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. I don't know. Have they gone? I've had moments of good and bad, but I always apologize for the bad. So I think they canceled that out because remorse is good and good is good. So that's double good. I'm good. Well, I'll tell you what. One of my favorite pinball podcasts, Pinball Nerds podcast, there's some type of intro song. And the podcast itself, I don't know. But that intro song, it is fire. Do you know who's responsible for that song?
    103:53
    If it wasn't for Albert Agar, it never would have happened. Well, he's definitely on the naughty list.
    104:02
    I don't know if you know Albert Agar. If he is on the naughty list, he definitely needs to get on the good list. Because he used to be a negative man a few times, and then he saw the better ways of life. and I really think he should get a nice sweater this year. Well, I talked to Albert earlier today, and he told me he's been drama-free since episode 493.
    104:27
    That's not bad. It's not bad. Well, Santa, I have a question for you. Okay. What is your favorite pinball machine, Santa? Well, I'll tell you what. There was that homebrew of the Elf Machine where I was featured, and I actually quite enjoyed it. You know, I play more pinball than people think. Just because I don't play pinball for two months because I'm so busy building toys, it doesn't mean I don't play January to October. That's right. Now, the only thing that puts pinball on the naughty list is more than one action button. If you put two action buttons, that's naughty. Three action buttons, more naughty. and if you're like Casino Royale and you have four action buttons screw you, you're getting a lump of coal I've always said the same exact thing now hey, what ever happened with that lawsuit with the taxi pinball machine did you ever get your residuals?
    105:30
    one time Santa had a couple too many eggnogs and he decided that he was going to sue the pants off them because they never paid me a penny and I don't even want money from, I just want a free taxi machine. That's my favorite machine. Oh, hold on. Santa, what the hell are you doing? Oh, my God, Glenn. Glenn, I'm sorry. Santa broke into my igloo and was literally on my laptop again.
    105:56
    Oh, no. Again? Again. He, like, tonight he's already called, like, he called, you know, your good buddy Tim the Lion Man Lee. He was calling Rachel Risco. You know, I was like, dude, like, that's much. Like, go get your own Facebook list, Santa. You know what I mean?
    106:13
    Yeah, I mean, some people just don't have their own friend groups, and so they cling on to your stuff, and you're like, look, man, you really haven't earned your spot at the table, but I guess you're the big man. So, I mean, he probably holds it over people. They really don't have a say in it. Like, what do you tell Santa? No.
    106:28
    What a frigging guy. I mean, it's hard because he's so – people love him around the world. I don't know if you've heard of this, but, like, literally kids all around the world write to him this time of year. He gets more fan mail, like, per second than I've got in 500 episodes. So I get a little jelly once in a while, but you know what? He's out there doing good. I'm so poor. Like, I legitimately am glad I moved over to the poor man's network because I'm so poor that if it wasn't for Santa, like, Danielle and I, we'd hardly ever be able to afford the guests, could we? Oh, no. Like, this guy's a baller. Like, he's getting them, like, Pokemon cards and, like, trips to go snowboarding. Like, we can't afford that type of stuff. Not on, like, a poor coffee man's cafe barista salary, you know what I mean? Like, you can't do it that way, right?
    107:13
    So... Do you know the best part of waking up, Orby? No, what is it, Glenn? Best part of waking up is Orby coffee in your cup. Whoa! I wish the microphone sounded better because that actually came out really good but there's a possibility while going through the JBL microphone across my living room in between my Christmas tree to the blue snowball bike and then into Audacity that it didn't sound incredible but I think maybe at some point now I did mention this earlier with Tim the Lion Man Lee next year at some point we're going to do Patreon and the only reason I want to do it is so that any people who have been at the top tier for a year are going to get this CD that has a collaboration of all of your music that, you know, if the Loser Kids, if Josh and Scott say, hey, Glenn, no, no, no, no, you use that exclusively on our Christmas show, it can't be over. You know, if someone says they would prefer, you know, maybe Dennis doesn't want Room or Corner coming over, I don't know. But, you know, I think for the most part, I think for the most part if we offer them some big royalties, they'll probably be okay with it, right? I mean, you wrote the songs anyways, But imagine if we were to get all your different songs on one CD, and then we put Tim's, like, his Groundhog Day skit is the secret song. I just think that would be a really fun album, and maybe, maybe, maybe, just maybe, you and I could record the punk rock version of I Wonder What's Inside Your Buckle.
    108:44
    We can make a go at it. I'd be willing. Yeah. Because you don't do, like, too much punk stuff, but you have a little bit of rock twins in there.
    108:53
    Yeah, I mean, I can make a go at it. I mean, I haven't done anything punk yet. I know Joseph Hood was always really bummed out about how terrible the music I did for the Tribe Multiball was. And he always wanted something more punk rock. So I'm like, I don't know if I can pull it. You need drums. That's what I don't have. And I have a drum, but I don't have a drum set. And I also only have two inputs for my recording setup. So it would be really hard. I mean, it would be pretty punk to just have one microphone in the room recording drums. That would really sound like a punk band. I think it would be even more punk rock if I came and visited you and we recorded it live.
    109:32
    Right? Wouldn't that be awesome? Yeah. Let's do it. I don't know when we're going to make that happen with everything going on, but we can try. I know. Listen, the one thing I've said I want for Christmas, normally I would ask for comic books or sports cards or even maybe like, you know, an inexpensive kind of like a Galaga or Pac-Man one-up for the arcade or something. But this year I've just said the only thing I want to do is go to next year. At least, like, I'm going to let Top Target Danielle get me some nice stocking stuffers and such, but I've said the one thing I want is next year I've got to go. I've got to go meet all the tribes people, the listeners, and all these people. Like, I went to Pimberg, and that was like four years ago. There's so many people that are new and gotten to pinball since I've been to my last big show. I've got to go to Expo, TPF, something like that. What one event I know are you going to try to make it to next year?
    110:21
    I've already got my flight booked, my hotel reserved, and my tournament tickets to TPF. So that's the one I'm going to this year. Maybe at the end of the year I can sneak something out. But, I mean, my kids are, like, in the prime of their high school and middle school.
    110:38
    It's only going to get more available down the road. So I'm not trying to inconvenience the family too much right now, but I think in a few years I'll probably go to two or three shows a year. Dude, I can't wait to meet you. You are like, okay, I might have lied to Rachel when I told her she was top of the list. She's probably like number two, but like you, Lion Man Lee, Drew, Ian, you know, you're all people that I've either heard do like 100 different podcasts or like especially you and Tim, you know, we talk fairly often, and I've never got to meet you guys. So you guys are like, honestly, I'd rather meet you guys. Like, I've never met Steve Ritchie. I've never met Pat Waller. I'd rather meet you guys than any of, like, the pinball designers. I'm not even, like, I'm not even BSing you guys. I just, I want to hang out with so many people from the Poor Man's Pinball Tribe, and I'm just so excited I get to be over here on the network. And thank you for everything you do for pinball. I have one last question. I have, like, nine people left to call, and I only have, like, ten minutes left. I'm trying to keep it under two hours. It probably won't be.
    111:38
    Same question to ask everybody else. If you had just one wish for the pinball community, and I'm not just talking about the tribe, of course. The tribe is awesome. I'm not just talking about the listeners. I'm talking about just the greater pinball community. If you had one wish for next year, one thing that maybe would make us overall better as a community, what would that wish be for 2023?
    112:00
    I just want everybody to go to these live events and just have fun. There's no drama. Just hang out. Just be accepting of everybody and just enjoy this hobby for what we love about it and that it brings people together. That's what I want. Is that asking too much? I mean, it's not quite world peace, but it's pinball peace. That's what I want.
    112:22
    Well, I mean, as we all know, Drew actually brokered a little bit of peace, I think, between Zach Mennie and Kaneda, and it appears they're currently in a feud again, which I try to stay out of. As you know, I'm drama-free. I'm drama free since episode 493 so it doesn't matter if it's Chris or if it's anyone else that's talking to me about drama I honestly I just don't respond I don't want to hear about it I don't want to see it if I'm watching a live stream or listening to a podcast it gets just way too revved up I kind of try to avoid it because I agree like you that when people really sit back and they think about it and they go it's just pinball it's not life or death it's not food it's not water it's not shelter it's a fun toy that we get to go enjoy and yes, we love it. We love it with all of our hearts, our minds. We love it with our buttholes. Hell, every part of us loves it. But it doesn't mean that you can... I've gotten to the point where I've taken it too seriously. And when you take anything too seriously, I don't care what the topic is, if you take any topic just... If you put your glasses all the way up to the top and you nerd out too much on any one given fucking topic, it sucks. Life, you only live once, especially when we're talking about pinball it's not rocket science or you're not curing a disease or something we're talking about pinball just chill the fuck out enjoy playing the game go to the tournaments enjoy your location play and just relax pinball prices are what they are arguing or yelling or screaming about it doesn't really do that much speak with your wallet and when you think the prices are more fair and you're getting good quality value for what you're paying buy it and other than that, just go enjoy yourself. Am I right?
    114:03
    Yeah, and here's the secret. You don't even have to be in the tribe to hang out with the tribe. Of course not. If you see us at a show, you just show up and say, hey guys, I'm Big Bob and I like pinball. And we're like, hey, Big Bob, let's hang out and have a beer. Or if not a beer, a coffee or whatever. Let's go play some games. It's the most inclusive group I've ever been part of. It's hard. It's hard as you get older to make friends and it couldn't have been easier.
    114:29
    Well, I was just speaking with Brian Cosner, Cos himself, and he said that the poor man's pinball table was one of the most happening tables, like, at the entire show. And I said, well, no doubt. Drew's over there giving out free DVDs, and I forget who it was, one of the tribe members, like, just gave out beers to everybody and shots to everybody. And, you know, like, just think about it. the bar there probably made like half as much money because of the poor man's tribe. So, you know, screw those guys. No, I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. But it doesn't matter where you guys go. Everybody says that the tribe members have the most fun. And I want to be part of any group that is the most fun. So from tribe number 26 all the way to tribe member...
    115:16
    Seven. Number seven? You're so early. You're single digits. Glenn? To tribe number seven and from myself and... Danielle. We just wanted to wish you a very merry Christmas.
    115:33
    Aw. Thank you, guys. Have a happy New Year as well. Thank you. Sounds good. Listen, I want to do, like, maybe even on Zoom, and we'll try to plan it, but maybe you, me, and Tim, and possibly, you know, one or two other people, maybe at some point over the holidays, one night when you're not too busy, even just a 10-minute Zoom and drink a beer together. What do you think?
    115:52
    Let's try to make that happen. okay buddy have a great night thanks for making time I love you bro thanks for all you do for pinball and don't ever stop making awesome pinball content we love it love you guys too man talk to you later bye ho ho ho Merry Christmas Glenn I think I'm way over two hours now can you plug in that one over there for me babe it's uh yeah Hayden might have no that one's okay so we're just plugging in that computer to make sure it stays up with us because it looked like it was getting close. There we go. Okay. We're still recording. Hopefully the fan doesn't turn on and ruin the volume. I'm going to try to get... I don't know. People are going to... Guys, if this podcast is too long, listen to it in chunks because there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to end it here. I want to try through these people here.
    116:44
    Sean Russell, I don't have to call because we already got to talk to him there. Merry Christmas, Sean, if you're listening.
    116:50
    Peace Man. Nick, where is Peace? What will Peace be doing? Let's see if we can get a hold of good old Peace.
    116:59
    There we go. And you know what? I don't think that Peace would have... He might have seen this, but he was out at Helicon tonight, so he might not even know that I'm recording live. So if he doesn't answer, that's okay. I'm going to turn this down a little, because Glenn's was a little bit quiet.
    117:16
    Thanks. I love Glenn. What an awesome dude. Glenn keeps me very, like, he's very level-headed, I think, when it comes to pinball stuff, and he tries to look at things from all angles. He's got pinball wisdom, I'll tell you that. Emmett and the Lion Man are just very they wise men of pinball They are the three if you add in Drew you got the three wise men of pinball because when they speak I listen because I know that I going to hear something that not only true but also, like, they usually catch their breath before they speak about anything in pinball, and I just feel like they're very learned men in pinball. Is that, like, is that weird? Okay, let's try calling Joe Sovaggi.
    117:55
    Again, I don't know. He didn't like any of my stuff on there, so I don't even know if he has four men's. And I don't, I, well, I'm sorry, I don't know if he's on the Pinball Nerds Facebook page. I hope he's on the other one. Just so you guys know what I'm drinking, because what you drinking, we got Pivot. This is the X in the Street Imperial Ale. This is a 7.5 percenter. So this is like, whoa, my beer, because I'm going to be drunk. Joe, if your answering machine just came on, Merry Christmas. Thank you so much for all your orders. I sincerely really do appreciate it. Joseph Hood was on here next I honestly don't I've never spoke with Joseph Hood before I don't know if he prefers to go by Joe I don't know, oh I missed a video call from him, no way wow wait, did I video call Joseph Hood or did he video call me I don't know I'm not too sure but it's Christmas Joseph Hood Joseph in the hood no that was dumb that was stupid why did I say that okay I apologize sorry Joseph Hood um I thought did you like that post oh Joseph also ordered some coffee so thank you Joseph so much for that and do you think maybe no definitely some coffee um and if I missed anyone who ordered coffee I'm a bad boy I apologize. Lisa Castleman, I'm not even going to try to call because I actually just saw after I added her to the list that her and Mike were playing poker tonight. So I don't want to bug them. What about Ari Jones? Try to remember Ari Jones. Ari, he did order some coffee from us. I'd like to thank him personally. It says he's online. Guys, Ari might answer. It could happen.
    119:50
    7.5% double IPA. Ouchie, ouchie. This is going to be probably the last beer for the night, ladies and gents.
    119:58
    Because it's Christmas. No. My co-host has been MIA for a while. I think she's grabbing some snackies.
    120:09
    This is a dark beer. Okay. Ari is not answering, which is okay. Ari, have yourself a wonderful night. And thank you so much for ordering. I think one time, like a frickin' year and a half ago, Ari and I had, like, a minor disagreement when I was just having, like, a mental breakdown. And, like, right around when I quit my podcast, Ari, I'm sorry if I was being a jerk in the comments. I probably was. I was probably being a pretentious know-it-all like I am usually and not being the humble, kind, forgiving, kind of, like, rad dude that I'd prefer to be. I was ultra, I was Orbital Albert's ultra-eagle, orbital asshole. So, sorry for that Hey, you're back Did you say ultra-ego? Ultra-ego I meant to be ultra- Wait, you're in front of the mic I meant to be ultra-ego No, ultra- Altered Altered? Alter-ego I'm in an altered state Put down the pipe, Santa You need to put down your pipe No, I wouldn't brush my teeth Damn, girl How are you going to be drinking alcohol after that? What's going on? I'm not. Come on! Sorry, no, I channeled my inner dad there. I told you I had it.
    121:24
    Ari Jones, Kaneda! Do you think Kaneda will... You rang, yes! No, I'm just calling people to wish them Merry Christmas.
    121:32
    Ari Jones is calling back, no way! Okay, shoot, we got two people calling in once. Oh, there's my phone.
    121:39
    Ho, ho, ho! Merry Christmas, Ari! Orby! What's happening, brother? Orby? Who's that? I'm Santa Claus in the North Pole, and I've got Mrs. Claus cuddled up to me here. How are you doing, sir? Oh, Dr. Daniel. Hey!
    122:01
    Hi! Wow, no, this is Mrs. Claus. It is not Santa got ran over by a reindeer. That's very well. I'm in my buddy John's house we're playing some pinball you're at J-Hall's house? I'm at John Arthur's house he's considered tried to Jason he's not actually in it everyone did it's Steve John we'll give him a high five from Orby and drop targets tell him we gave him a good old Canadian hug you know what a Canadian hug is right?
    122:39
    is it a what is it? well it's like a regular hug but we just take our little dirty it depends who you ask it's not something we're allowed to do during COVID times of course but you hug real tight you look eye to eye and right as your noses get close there used to be a word that's now cancelled called an Eskimo kiss, I would never use that word but basically you just give a little nudge back and forth on the nose and honestly I've done it to Americans at shows and stuff and they're like whoa, bro, that's weird. I'll hug you. I don't want any of this Canadian hug with the little nose back and forth, so that's too much. It's too much, right? That's on the naughty list.
    123:19
    If you've crossed the point of no return of our speed, it's happening. Oh, God, Ari, I'm excited. I'm getting a Canadian hug. Okay, I totally made that up, but it's funny.
    123:31
    It's a tribe member only hug. Listen, what pins your buddy have there? What are you guys playing tonight? Oh my god, he's got tons He's got A Star Wars Rick and Morty We got the P3 with every module Oh jeez He's got a Kelp Okay, a little bit of Haggis going on He's got a Kelp Houdini One of my favorites Godzilla which we're playing now He's got the old Ultraman Kaiju Bumble he's got a Wizard of Oz what's his name Ruby Red he's got a beautifully restored Indiana Jones pinball adventure oh the second best Indiana Jones oh don't you ever say that I'm just kidding that's blasphemy I'm totally kidding except for when they do that the elephant like ball lock drop that always gets by my right flipper Maybe I've had a couple too many, you know, I borrowed Santa's pipe here and had a little bit too much happy fun. But, like, jeez, isn't that ball drop out super fast on that right ball walk?
    124:49
    It is. Yeah, yeah. But his has now been pretty good. Okay. He's also got an old solar fire, and he's got a Zechariah magic castle. No. Oh, Zach Many's favorite pin, Magic Castle. Good for him. I love Zachariah. Probably last Christmas, drop target Danielle here. My wonderful wife is with us. Say hi to Ari. Hi. I think Ari said hi. Okay, good. Sorry. I was going to say, sorry, what I was going to, I forgot if I had introduced her, but what I was going to say is that last year I bought the Zachariah pinball package on, I think Pinball Arcade or Zen Pinball, one of them, and literally, like, it was, like, 20 bucks or something, and you got, like, every pin, and I sat there, and I played every Zachariah, and I was like, wow. If, like, let's just say, I don't mean if I won, like, 100k, because that's not even pinball rich, but, like, if I won, like, millions, like, 10 million, I would search out the best condition every Zachariah on the planet, and, like, I would have it at, like, I wouldn't be super exclusive and be like, you can't go play my pins, but I would have it, like, in a really cool pinball arcade, and that's kind of like my dream. Like, if Elon Musk and I were getting drunk together, he's like, what's your dream, Orby? I'd like to have every Zachariah, including, like, I don't know what the rainbow one is. I think it's, you know, the Farfalla. Have you seen this one? I've seen Farfalla. I think we've had that, too. Oh, my. Yeah, it's nice. The sounds. The sounds of Farfalla are so relaxing. Is that like colorful? It has like the Yeah, with the rainbow Okay, and then there's like a slide almost that comes down Yes, his ramp was working where he could go up top and such Okay Is that ramp working where you go on the upper playfield on your farfalla? Yes Okay, because I know a lot of times one stairs go down I have a question for you the coffee, now, do you guys just, like, have some beans shipped to you, and then you guys roast them there, and then bag them, or... Oh, God, no. So, I don't know in the U.S., but in Canada, it's around $200,000 to get, like, certified organic.
    127:16
    To get, sorry, certified organic, certified eco-roasted, and also to get certified as fair trade. Thank you, hon. So what we do is we found our very favorite coffee roaster called Lapping Whale just outside of Halifax, and we've tried coffees from the entire East Coast. Like, if you are a little independent coffee roaster, we've tried your stuff. The problem was we found that all of their stuff is single origin. So if you have a really good espresso, like, I'm not talking like a $400 gravel or something. Like, if you have, like, a $2,000 or $3,000 one, maybe you can taste all the individual tasting notes in, like, a single origin. What we do is we order from them in bulk and wholesale, and then we do custom blends here on our homestead. Well, by we, I mean Danielle, even though I help with the taste testing. And so, for instance, our most popular recent coffee we have is called The Force, and what we did is we took two of their single-origin light roasts, and we combined it at a certain percentage that we found tasted incredible with two of their dark roasts, and it actually turns out to be a medium roast, which the medium roast itself has, as you can imagine, And because it's coming from two different continents and four different mountain ranges, has, like, a very wide range of different flavors in it. And especially because two of them, so, you know, you get the caffeine advantages of the light roast and then the flavor differences of the dark roast. But someday, someday, like, also it costs, like, about $100 to go become, like, a legitimate good coffee roaster if you go to one of the top schools, you know. So someday could we maybe do that possibly. for right now, we just had a tea company that was at a local market and the market manager said, guys, no one is doing coffee. Until we came around, if you wanted a coffee at the market, you had to walk up the street and go to the gas station and get a nabob for two bucks.
    129:06
    That's all they had in town. So we looked around and we said, look, we'll bring in coffee, but there's no way I'm just ordering coffee beans and serving it. I won't do that. We actually do that with our guest tap. One of our two taps is a guest tap of a local, usually an organic roaster from Nova Scotia, quite often we use Just Us, but basically our exclusive blends, we are able to make margins on only because we're selling primarily direct. So, like, if another cafe called us and said, oh, we'd love to serve your coffee, it would be very tricky to do because, like, we can't make wholesale prices twice, right? So that's why it is a little bit more expensive, but, like, we think we're killing it on the art, i.e. Danielle, who does all the artwork. Awesome. Thank you. and also thank you very much for your order of course, I forget which roast did you get remember, did you buy two, I think you got two maybe I can't remember it wasn't the fourth, it was beam me up beam me up, our medium roast was there like a UFO the one with the name tag there was one with the name tag oh, the pinball burgers, the light roast yes, yes, yes we only made 12 of those because it didn't sell that well, I thought it would like catch on because it had the cool, my name is Pinball Nerd. Then I was like, wait, most people ordering want to be able to. Thank you. We kind of have two of those coffees in the four, so it's kind of that direction. But anyways, no, that's our whole shtick. You know, it's a very small side hustle. Like my wife is a substitute teacher. I kind of get to be a little bit, you know, if I meet someone new, I joke, oh, I'm 25% house husband, 25% stay at home dad, 25% small business owner. and 25% podcaster, but let's be awesome, it's like 99% podcaster. All the rest is like, go fuck it, you know.
    130:54
    Well, dude, I'd like to call you back. So I'm going to talk a little bit more about the homesteading. I'm really interested in that stuff and how much of it you're still doing and how much of it you're not. Let's chat sometime. Like, I mean, honestly, 90% of what we do, we still have chickens and stuff. The goats are gone, unfortunately. 90% of what we do, like, okay, yes, during maple syrup season, I might put in 30, 40 hours a week doing maple syrup from our 53s, possibly if it's a really good week. But for the most part, we run, like, basically a cafe at a market part-time and just, like, I just got hired as security at the local hospital. Usually in the winter I take a part-time job when it slows down, right? So it's really not that interesting. I'm basically just, like, a hustler dude who was a city slicker for 30 years and decided to get the hell out of the city life. I got sick of listening to, like, honestly, I tell people this, and I'm not even joking, from Thursday night to Sunday night, because we live six minutes away from the downtown of the ninth largest city in Canada, we were listening to, honey, be honest, we were not listening to either fire trucks or ambulances or police, like, 80% of the time during that period. Yeah.
    132:03
    We were sick of it. It was. It was annoying. It was too much. Like, we, and, you know, there's something like 9,000 vehicles a day drove by, like, the intersection just at the end of our street. You could always hear buses and cars. It was just too much. And we both grew up in the country, and we both said, someday we'll move back to the country. The area that we lived near Toronto, we couldn't afford. The average house in the country was like $1.4 to $1.6 million. Even with me working for the largest bank in Canada, Danielle working at the second largest bank, we couldn't even get pre-approved for more than maybe $800,000, $900,000. There's no way we were going to find a four-bedroom homestead in the country with even half an acre of land. And so we said, fun, we'll just move to the East Coast. We got seven acres of land for 80K, don't have to have a mortgage, got to put some money in the bank, got to buy a shit ton of pitfall machines to fill up the arcade. And we just, look, I miss everybody like crazy. I miss all my leagues that I played in. I was in three different leagues in Ontario. Like I played in Lawful, TCPL, and I went to Toronto quite often as well. So, like, I got to play pinball all the time. Out here there's maybe one tournament every month or two. So I miss that. I miss my family, I miss my friends, but at the same time, I also like not having to, like, hustle and work 50 hours a week at a job I freaking hate going into, right? So it's like, it's a little bit of both. It's a little bit of, like, we have way less stress, but we also have way less money, but we have less bills. So it's, you know, it's the same thing a lot of people do when they turn 40 or 50 and they move out to the country. Like, I always say it's like Chevy Chase and Funny Farm, if you ever saw that. That is one of my favorite movies I tell people about Yellow Dog all the time Yellow Dog Oh, Yellow Dog I've got a dog just like that he just kind of takes off and every once in a while I just see her run across go past What's your dog's name?
    133:56
    Libby Okay, well maybe someday Libby and Elowen will get to meet my dog Luna Elowen I call her Elowen on the show, but in real life I call her Luna. Our dog does not leave for that long. I get very worried because of all the coyotes. We actually have coyotes not far from here that killed a country music star not that long ago. She was running through the forest, went up for a jog. She was from Toronto. She didn't know the coyotes here. You have to be... They're used to hunting... They're used to hunting moose here, so if you can take down a 4, 5, 600 pound moose, like a 4, 500 pound female moose, or a 6, 7, 800 pound, or more male moose, you can definitely and take down a human. Now, that rarely happens, but the problem is, we're about five minutes away from a 400-acre sanctuary where it's illegal to hunt, so some of those, especially up in Cape Breton, some of those coyotes, they have no fear of humans because humans are not allowed to hunt them there, and it's a blessing and a curse. We want the coyotes to do better, which keeps the deer under control. It's a whole ecosystem thing, but I've gone way off topic. Ari, what did you expect? You thought I would go off topic. Okay, last question. I have seven or eight more people to call, and I'm already over two hours and probably people are going to be mad. I don't even know. I'm not even good enough at technology to split this in half. Sorry to everyone listening. You'll have to listen to it in a couple of cuts. I'm glad we got to chat with you. Do you have one message for everybody from the pinball community, not just the tribe members, not just the listeners, but the entire pinball community for next year? Do you have anything you'd like to say to them or like a tsk, tsk, or a nodding you or a I'd like to see more of this or that? There's lower prices. I know most people say lower prices. Of course. What else you got for us?
    135:34
    I would say people just enjoy what you got. Don't be looking for the next new thing. It's probably not what you think it is. Are you trying to say fucks or what?
    135:46
    I'm trying to say Scooby might not be that great. So just enjoy what you got. Write it out. And have a wonderful new year. Absolutely.
    135:57
    All right. Thank you so much. Let's chat again. next time I won't call live on a freaking podcast. Don't worry. But let's chat again sometime. It'll be good, buddy.
    136:06
    I had no idea I was on the podcast. What? Are you serious? Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I was supposed to mention that. I put it in the tribe. Are you a tribe member? You're a tribe member, right?
    136:17
    I am a tribe member. Okay, I put it in the thing two days ago. I'm sorry. You know what? Not everyone sees it. Okay, listen. Do you want me to leave this part or was everything copacetic?
    136:27
    No, it's all good. It's all good. I'm so sorry. Guys, that was Ari on hinge because he had no clue he was being recorded. So, okay, I don't think you said anything incriminating. I think maybe you made fun of Canada's socks or something. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, dude, don't get me started.
    136:45
    Ari, love you, bro. Have a good night. It was great to chat with you. And tell your pinball buds I'm sorry I took you away from the game. Get back there and win some money. Will do.
    136:54
    All right, everybody. Take care, buddy. Cheers. That was great. Oh no, I'm getting more messages Drew's calling, oh my god Guys, Drew's, I'm nervous Drew's calling Is that great? I think you're calling him back Wait, I'm calling him back? He called you while you were talking Oh no, I missed Drew's call Yeah, because it's not No, no Guys, Drew, I'm sorry I missed your call No.
    137:29
    What do you say? Sorry I missed your call. Let's try again this week. Oh, my God. Okay. Drew wants to come on the show. Drew might come on the show live. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. Did I talk that long? Oh, my God. Okay. Guys, guys, guys. Okay. Who's next? Kaneda, then Zach Manning, then Jack Danger. Are we going to get to all these people? Is this going to be the longest pinball podcast of all time?
    137:51
    Do you want me to skip people? Who's... Okay. Kaneda's not going to answer. Am I right? Probably not. If he does answer, can I just cut him off? If he says anything weird, I'll just go, eh. Try again, Chris. No, I'm just kidding.
    138:06
    Oh, my God. That's where I told Chris he should enter the James Bond competition. And he went and died. I don't think he joined it. But, like, Chris isn't going to answer. He's probably two sheets to the... He's probably at whatever you call it by the omasaki, the really expensive Japanese food. It's like, can you say it's like $700 a plate? I'm like, that's what they have to spend in, like, a whole year of going out for awesome meals. I don't go for the super-duper fancy. Well, I try to pick... Chris will wake up in the morning and be like, what the fuck? Why did you already call me at, like, I guess his time, 22? It's only quarter after nine there, Chris. Come on, bruh. Okay, so who's next on the list? I thought it was ironically funny to put Zach Minney first. You actually spelled it more like Zach Meany, which, you know, I don't know, phrase. No, I'm just kidding, Zach. I'm just kidding, buddy. How did you know how to spell Zach Meany? I know. How did you know how to spell Zach Meany? Come on. Now, I don't think Zach's going to answer. Not only is he not a tribe member, I don't think I've ever seen him. I don't even know if he's on the Pinball Nerds podcast thing. Should we sing a song, though?
    139:09
    Sure. Okay, what have we sang so far? I don't know. Zach hung up. Did Zach give me, like, the hard no? He was not ready to show. That's okay. No, Zach, okay, pretend this was answering. Hi, guys. It's Zach here. I'm too busy selling pinball toppers to actually talk to you, so leave a message, unless you're Orby.
    139:34
    Hey, Zach. It's just Orby over here. Thanks for all the awesome content you have on the pinball show.
    139:40
    Yeah. Other than that, Merry Christmas to you and the fam. Hope you guys have a great time. And someday, they haven't joked about this in years, but someday, if you actually guys ever do road tripping, I thought for a hot minute maybe Dennis and you were going to go on a drive with the Flippin' Out van and come visit me here. When I called in one time and spoke to Ken Cromwell back when you guys did the Monday night on the pinball show with Flippin' Out. And I really, remember I was at the hotel room, I called in and chatted with him?
    140:06
    No. Okay, well, why would you remember that? I think we were in St. John or Fredericton. We were somewhere. We were probably hanging out with David Dennis. Like, come on. No, I'm just kidding. I don't think it was that night. But Jack Danger, oh, no, I'm a little nervous about the Jack Danger call, too. Like, is this guy going to answer? Probably not. If you're Jack Danger and Orbital Elvers calling drunken high on a Friday night to wish you Merry Christmas and you're busy hanging out with your family and friends, are you going to answer? Of course you're not, Jack. We know you're not going to answer. But it doesn't matter.
    140:36
    The point is I'm reaching out to let Jack Danger know. This man, honestly, Jack Danger has probably brought more people over to pinball than anyone else on the frickin' planet, especially people who knew nothing about pinball on Twitch. so Jack Danger thanks for all you do and I can't wait to see your next Cornerstone bra okay we are moving the only good part about people not answering is like we are moving through this list because I don't want to miss anyone Ray Day, Raymond Davidson was the number one player in the world, do you know who that is hon? Raymond Davidson? yes you've heard of him before? yes tell me everything you know about Ray Day in one fell swoop that he's a good pinball player, that's all I know did we already call him tonight? Who? You just called him. Ray Day? No. Oh, that's Jack Danger. Shit, I almost called JD again. Sorry, Jack. Okay, oh, here's Ray Day. Ro-oh, oh, ro-oh. That's a little Scooby talking. Ro-ro, ro-ro, Shaggy. Ro-ro. Oh, geez, Rick. Oh, no, we're going to go back to C-137. It's getting better. It's getting better? Yeah. Ho, ho, ho Merry Christmas, Ray Day Oh, thank you Ho, ho, ho How are you doing tonight, Mr. Davidson?
    141:57
    I'm doing well That's good My friend Orbital Albert has asked me to call you To give you a personalized Merry Christmas message So for myself and Mrs. Drop Target Claus here we have just one thing to say. Merry Christmas.
    142:16
    Aw. Merry Christmas to Albert as well and his family and all his farm pieces. All the animals and everything. Thank you.
    142:32
    Hey, Santa, what are you doing in there? Get the hell out of my computer chair. Oh my gosh, Raymond Davidson?
    142:41
    Oh, my God. I'm sorry. Santa broke into my workshop again. He had the freaking elves working overtime. And he's on my laptop pulling people on my Facebook list. I'm so sorry.
    142:53
    Did he contract out your homestead during the busy times? Oh, my gosh. He's got all the goats out there working overtime. Even the chickens, like, he's making them lay golden eggs. I don't know what's happening. There's some weird stuff going on. But, man, thanks for answering. Like, honestly, the last ten people didn't answer. So it was going to be a boring podcast if you didn't answer. So I really appreciate you answering.
    143:19
    Oh, no problem. We are live. I should say that. I just got through a 15-minute phone call with Ari Jones. And at the end he was like, whoa, did you just say we're live on a podcast, bro? And I'm like, yes. Did you not see the Facebook post? So I thought, you know, there's a possibility people didn't, you know, the Facebook algorithm is weird. It doesn't show all your fans every post. Did you have any clue we were live?
    143:43
    Nope. A single clue, no. Oh, my God. It's a good thing you just told us the next 10 Stern pinball machines.
    143:51
    It's basically My Little Pony 1, 2, and 3. And then, you know, Gem of the Holograms I hear is next. And the one thing I have heard people say is on the naughty list. Care Bear Stare. Oh, Care Bear Stare. Drop target. She knows. She knows Care Bears. Don't see. I don't even want Raymond to cough or anything now, because it could be Care Bears. We don't know.
    144:12
    But I don't want to be on the naughty list and ask. I would never do that. But let's be honest. There is a rumor. I want you just to, you could either cough. You don't even have to say yes or no. Is it true that the next string pinball machine has seven action buttons?
    144:28
    That's a lot of action. Okay, six. Six. Jeff Teolis wanted me to ask you that question. I said, nah, I'm not going to ask him that. That's too crazy, Jeff. No, I'm totally kidding. Listen, what are you doing tonight? What are you up to?
    144:44
    I'm just kind of vegging out, just hanging out over the weekend, watching Carl's head-to-head on stream he's doing. Live on Twitch on IE Pinball right now?
    144:57
    Yeah, it's a head-to-head launch party, you know, with the challenges and the two games next to each other. Oh, shoot. Okay, at least I have something awesome to do. I only have a couple more people to call from the Naughty at Nice list, and then I can go over there to IE Pinball and check out some rad live pinball.
    145:14
    Yeah, I know you like some of those tournament straight things, so, yeah, hit that up. Oh, my God. I kind of, you know what, I'm not going to lie right here, I kind of felt bad this year because I used to watch so much Twitch, and now I mostly watch tournaments. Like, I don't, I feel bad because I used to be on there, like, 30, 40 hours a week, you know, at nighttime whenever I was done work and family stuff and milking goats, whatever, right? I'd be on Twitch almost all the time, and now, like, I almost feel like I should send Jack Danger an apology and be like, I used to always be in your chat. I'm sorry. And, like, even Carl, I used to watch almost not every Carl stream, but any time I didn't, you know, wasn't at a pinball tournament or wasn't busy. And even you yourself, I used to hop into yours, and even Escher I used to watch more often, and now I just, I feel bad. Like, I have more time on the weekends, and I get, I just, I love watching tournaments, especially if I can, it's almost like if I know, like, the Super Bowl weekend, you know, like, there's a big huge tournament at, like, District 82 or something. I set aside that weekend and, like, I just, I almost try to watch, like, every second of the action that I can. Mind you, when I'm watching you play and you're putting up, like, you know, 45-minute games on Avengers or something, I'm like, oh my god, like, you're blowing me out of the water. But the one thing I did want to say, I got to speak to your co-host about the Ray Ray show. You guys were killing it on the Poor Man's Fibble Network. Thank you for that.
    146:37
    Woo! It's doing well, right? Yeah, it's fun. It's fun to do, yeah. I'm glad she wanted to put that together.
    146:46
    That was kind of more her idea, but at least we get to, because I used to listen to every episode of Do or Die, right? And I know that you're not doing that as much anymore. So, now, of course, most people could get to watch you. you're doing, I think it was Dennis Creasel came up with the genius idea of doing babies first. Those are really taking off, like you did a babies first for, okay, how many have you done so far?
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    I think I've done three. Mm-hmm. It was Rush, Avengers, and Led Zeppelin. Wow. Okay, I'm going to have to go back, and these are obviously machines you worked on the rules for, so you would be like the best guy to make those videos for, and those are doing really well. I've watched, I haven't watched all of them, but I watched, I know the start of a couple of them. And if I ever have to play any of those pins in a competition, I'll have to go watch those because I have a memory like a sieve. And I can't remember like the really long rules, like in-depth stuff. But the bullet points that you have in the babies first, I absolutely love those. So thanks for doing that as well. And if people want to watch you on that, where would they watch you? Is this Raymond Davidson on Twitch? Just Ray Day Pinball on YouTube. Ray Day Pinball on Twitch or YouTube. Okay. There you go. Well, that's simple enough. I just uploaded a bunch of Turtles games. Some big scores on Ninja Turtles. So people were liking those biggest. Was it like you did 85 million in like half an hour or something, I'm thinking? Yeah, some big, big, big scores on there. I'm probably doing Turtles all wrong. I don't know. Turtles I haven't got enough time on. I do enjoy it, but I just haven't... I mean, that multiball starts incredible with the pizza. I just haven't got quite enough time on it. They just most recently got it at a record store near me. So, you know what's so lame? Like, I'm supposed to be a pinball podcaster, in quotes. I've never even played Stranger Things. The closest one to me is in Toronto. Or actually, no, in Montreal, I believe. It's like, I can't afford to fly, like, three hours away. you know, just to play one game, I want to play it. I have seen every single episode of Stranger Things. It's probably the one show that if I call my whole family, like both my sons and my wife are like, yes, we have to watch that. This is the one show they'll actually look at me and say,
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    Dad, shut up. We're trying to watch this. You know what I mean? Like, there's no talking. This is not like, you know, this is like we're turning off the lights. We're going to get some popcorn. Everyone be quiet. You know, and they get crazy for it. So it's, I mean, and I hear the best way to play Stranger Things is, like, in a dark room with the lights off, watching the projector, right? So I don't know.
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    Now, this isn't a very serious podcast, so I don't have any very serious questions for you. And I'm well over the two hours, so I don't even know who will listen this far in. I probably should have called you first if I was smart about it, to be honest. But I've been asking everybody if they had one wish for the pinball community, and I know it's, like, kind of a loaded question. if you had one wish for the pinball community coming up, besides more action buttons, because everyone wants more action buttons on pinball, but besides that, do you have, like, a wish kind of for the pinball community at all?
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    Yeah, I just wish everyone would always give a game the proper chance, you know. Don't just judge and write off the game until you've played it and learned a little bit about it, and then you can make a decision. You know, maybe it's not for you, but, you know, Turtles, I used to hate and shun. Until I actually played it, now I have one, and I'm playing it, and I'm like, okay, there's some stuff here, this is cool. And the same can be said with pretty much every game. You know, every game has something in there. And it might not be for you, but don't just write it off as a dud or whatever. Just, you know, put it aside. I like that. I actually like that. And I'm not going to lie, I might have famously called Led Zeppelin a dud before I even played it. And I still have not played it. So I will be the first one to humbly apologize. I am that guy who once in a while has watched, you know, too many live streams and jumped to conclusions. And you know what? More often than not, I'm wrong. Because I still haven't found a pinball machine I hate. There's a couple I was like, oh, man, you could have done better with theme integration or the sounds or whatever. But for the most part, like, I don't want to say anything because you might have heard me. Pinball's fun. Well, the last, like, what? however much every Stern game that's came out since Aerosmith has been incredible.
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    And Aerosmith still shoots great. I just don't like the songs. But I mean, like, honestly, Stern's where it's at. It's where it's happening. You got hired by the right company. You could have got hired by Pinball Adventures in Canada and been like, I don't know, guys. You know, it could have happened, right? Who knows? So, anyways, thank you for all you do for pinball, and I will take to heart what you said, because it is hard for me being a pinball podcaster. Sometimes I go two, three years without getting to play a game that's out, especially during the circuit. Well, yeah, it seems like you're in a very tough spot, because you've got to comment on things, but don't have any way to play them, so I understand your spot, for sure. The good news is, I'm only an hour away from Spin It Records, which has, I think, 18 pins now. Zero's is there, which has 12, including, like, a Circus Volterra location. I'm like, hey, do you guys know how much that's worth? I don't think you want drunk people in here, but anyways, they're getting Weird Al soon, so I'll get to play Weird Al before Stranger Things, probably the only pinball podcaster that that happened to. But, of course, they're a record shop, so they have every music pin from Elvis to Aerosmith to Kiss to, like, Iron Maiden. Like, everything is in there, right? So that kind of goes with their theme. But I'm so excited. I've told everybody the only thing I ask for Santa for is I want to go to one pinball show. And I did get to kind of meet you very briefly, like, day one of Pinbird and get a quick picture with you. Thank you for that. I do remember that, yeah. Yes, I have got to meet you, but like 90% of the people I'm calling on the list tonight, I've like never, like Drew and Ian, I've never got to meet them from Poor Man's, of course. Tim and Rachel, who I got to chat with tonight. Even Glenn the skateboarder, my buddy there, I chat with quite a bit. And there's just so, even yourself, I'd love to buy you a beer or whatever it is that you're drinking and play a game of Led Zeppelin with you and just watch my face as it lights up. I'm like, damn, I just nailed that combo. I like this band. And you're like, I told you, dude, try it first. I can't wait to get to do that kind of stuff. So next year, my whole goal is, I don't know if it will be TPF. I don't know if it will be XFL. I'd like to make it to both, but at the very bare minimum, I'd like to make it out to one. I'd like to shake your hand. Thank you for all you do for pinball. And honestly, when I watch you play pinball, I get that you're in a different realm than me when I'm seeing you and Esther and Elwin and all these greats play pinball. I get you guys are in a different level, but I'm now just good enough at pinball to watch you guys play and be like, no, I get how good you are. Because like, I don't want to say anyone, but almost anyone can watch baseball or football and get, okay, well, that was an incredible throw. That was an incredible catch. That was an incredible shot. But to watch pinball and really get how freaking good the top tier players are in comparison to the average player, you have to be already, you have to have some baseline knowledge of pinball. and I finally got to that point where I can watch you guys and go holy shats you guys are the top echelon of what we're doing and I think that even if for some reason I had 10 million dollars and I hired you to be my personal coach I would never be in that realm that you guys are all in so not only are you helping program pinball but you're still actually playing a lot of pinball which we don't see happen that often so thank you for everything you do for pinball my man and have an awesome holiday thanks, Mr. Albert, happy holiday and thanks for calling have a good one, no problem ho ho ho, Merry Christmas Ravens oh my god, that was too fun I've gone so long, I'm trying to get through my list, what if Keith Ellwyn sees that I called Ray Day and I didn't call Keith, Keith's gonna be like his little heart will be broken, no I'm just kidding I don't think he'll care, I don't even think Ellwyn knows who I am, I'd be shocked if he even listens to it, he seems like Ellen seems like too cool to even listen to pinball podcasts. Am I right? I don't know. I could be wrong. I think we lost Danielle, and I have to pee. So this might be, Ellen might be my last call.
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    Man, I had Bruce Nightingale on here. I had Josh and Scott from Loser Kid. I had Owen Hagar, my son. I had Jeff Teolis, but I already chatted with them. This is going to be my last call. I had Ted Finley, Josh Mudd. This was called Josh Mudd. Andrew Payne. Billy YJ. I'm sorry, guys. I'm exhausted. I'm tired. and I have to go pee. Keith Elwood's not answering. We all knew that Elwood wasn't going to answer just because this man is like, who's this Albert guy calling me? I don't know, man. Anyone else that I missed your phone call, I am so sorry. I absolutely love you. I'm in love with you. I think Ray Day is the perfect way to end this. Thank you so much, everybody, for listening. I probably am going to take at least a week if not two weeks off. Oopsies. Okay. But thank you so much, everybody, for listening. I had a great time. if you guys would like to order some coffee or tea from Angry Alpaca feel free to go do that, we don't have as much inventory I'm also out of the boxes, I think it's like $20 shipping no matter how many tea or coffee you buy to anywhere in Canada and then like $23 to anywhere in the United States and that's like Canadian so that's like pocket change for shipping, if you guys did enjoy the show and you made it to the end and you wanted to go support that would be rad, if you don't it's totally cool too. I'm just happy that you stuck along for the ride because we've been on here a long time. Until next time, pinball nerds, remember to eat, sleep, and breathe. Poor Man's Pinball Podcast.