Anderson's gotta have something in here to kill that dumb bear son of a bitch. Uh, hmm. Something to kill a bear. Uh... Look. Look what happened to that mouse. And he's got a big can of glue. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? We'll just sniff some glue and forget about the bears. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Show Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Halle. Here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Cheerio. How are you doing, Mr. Ron? Oh, is that a terrible British accent attempt? Cheerios, chap. Sorry, my bad teeth got in the way. My tongue. And this is episode 237. We just lost half of Robert Englunds right there. Oh, no, no. What was your comment? I said my teeth got in the way of my tongue. Oh, you're saying they have bad teeth because they're... I get it. See? Yeah, yeah. Am I wrong? Yeah, I didn't see too many bad teeth when I was... Okay. Maybe it's just the TV people. Maybe they put fake feet. It's probably just the royal family because of all the massive inbreeding. Inbreedings are us. Inbreedings are us. Yes, I'm back from the U.K., Bruce. Isn't that great? So we can talk about that right off the bat. Sure. Actually, I'll talk about another thing first because it happened before. I had a visitor. We mentioned this in the last episode. I was going to have a visitor to Level Zero. Level Zero. And the visitor was the former Pinbird champion, Colin MacAlpine. Wow. He came over to Level Zero. He was here for a business trip in Albany somehow. I just don't know how that happens. I'd like to know. Really? There's stuff here? But guess what we played, Bruce? Mostly old games. Oh, that's good. Not dialed in. I thought you were going to fucking say dialed it. We did play one game of dialed it, yes. And you walked right away from it and never came back to it. That's good. I love Colin. We play mostly old games. Nice. It's fun. It's a good time. But the last game, well, actually one of the last. Well, let's just say the last game we played, Elton John. And he's like, I don't want to get to play this because it's not in his area. So he played Elton John. By the time he was done, he was like, I might have to get one of these. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It is the best game, JP. He started one of the signature stage multiballs, and he got one of the jackpots. It's just this superstar jackpot, $100 million. Like, what the fuck did you do? Holy shit. Is this Colin? I guess so. He seems to think that the signature stage multiballs, they're probably in order of difficulty from left to right. Yeah. Because the one all the way on the right has no ball saver. Oof. So he used, I think, the second to the last one on the right. So whatever the 2009 one is. France was on something like that? I don't know. Vegas, maybe? I don't remember. Maybe Vegas. I think France was the one before that. But whatever one it is, man, I'm going to pick that one next time because holy shit. But, yeah, Elton John's where it's at. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Best JJP. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They only had to get another outside designer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he's not outside. He's inside now. I know, but I'm saying they had to get another designer. Wow. And Con will not be a TPF. Boo. Boo. Why not? Because it's, what is it? It's the last two times it's been earlier than it was. And it's when his kids are having spring break, so he can't do it. Makes sense. Makes sense. So, well, not really. I mean, you should say screw your family. Pinball's more important, of course. But, you know, he's not going to do that. Not going to do that at all. No. Collin's a big family guy. What, family guy? Yeah. Hey, that's right. It's family guy, Bruce. It's time. So, yeah, that's cool. So he played a lot of old games there. enjoying almost all exclusively whole games. Yes. We played Starspurs. Just to let you know, we did. Fuck yeah. Yes. The way it should be. Did we mention I got an Elton John banner last episode? I think we did. Yes, we did. Yeah. Well, I set it up. And where I put it, it's just, he's like pointing in the picture, and now it looks like he's pointing at Godzilla like he's pissed. No, he's telling him, I'm on my way. I'm going to catch you, you bastard. You made way too many of these games, and I'm going to try to catch you. Yeah, or he's pissed. You sold way more than I did. Yeah. But I'm still standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still standing. All right. So let's get into it here, Bruce. Mm. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Masterpiece Theater is going to get you have with a Ron Hallett tale of Robert Englunds and stuff. Yes. when you go to the UK, as soon as you walk in, they start playing the Masterpiece Theater music. They fucking do it. What do they do in Hawaii for most of these long trips? They play Don Ho? No. They give you leis. What? Oh, the thing that you wear. Okay, sorry. They give you leis. Free leis. Everyone gets free leis. Potato chips? Yeah, no. So you get free leis. So that should be their thing. Some guy with bad teeth walks up to you and says, dun-dun-dun, with music going and everything. Wow, Bruce. So classy. So you got your passport punched. No, they don't even do that. What? No one wrote a single thing in my passport. That's fucked up. Oh, it's awesome. Just keep using the thing forever. It's great. Can't use it forever. It only goes 10 years. Yeah, I know. Let's see. How do I want to approach this? Let's go from the start to the finish. So you got on a plane in stereo. Oh, yes, yes. It was wonderful. I got on a plane. So I just do Stewie the whole time. Hey, you know, yes, Bruce, I got on a plane. It was wonderful. Yes, I got on a plane in the wonderful Albany International Airport that doesn't go international. And I went from Albany to Dulles. Okay, so you went to Washington. Okay, I got you. Yes, good old Washington, D.C. Dulles is bad. I hate Dulles. Yeah, yeah. Any place where you have to take some weird transport to get from a terminal to another one. As opposed to, you know, when we used to do, what was it, California Extreme. California Extreme. We could do San Francisco Airport and they have a freaking monorail that goes around the entire airport. This one, no. Monorail. No, you got to get in a bus. Well, it used to be buses, so it's a little better now. It used to be a high bus. They were made by General Motors back in the 60s and 70s. Oh. And then they got rid of them, and now they just get you on other vehicles. Yeah. Well, you actually walk into this thing, and then it just goes straight across the airport to the other side, which, of course, I had to do to get my connecting flight. And then boarding the flight for Heathrow, you just had to have your passport out, but he never looked at it, and then he just scanned your face, and then you went. Well, the thing is, when you've checked in, did you check in online? Yes. Yes, I checked in online, and I also scanned my passport in. That's why. So I was travel ready, bro. Wow. Yeah. That's what it actually said on my ticket. It said travel ready. Travel ready. So, yeah, and that was like a red-eye flight. Yeah, so you landed in the morning. Except in the sleep on there. So we landed in the morning. Oh, you never try to sleep on there. 100% try to sleep. Why not? Because you just, you'll be too, you've got to get into the time zone. You've just got to go for a full. Yes, I was in the time zone. It was perfectly fine, Bruce. I had no issues whatsoever. So, yes, slept there. Yeah, you totally want to sleep there. So, I'm pretty sure I slept a little bit. Two hours is fine. Two or three, that's about it. That's all I would say. I'm pretty sure I slept. So we get there. I get off the flight, and it's like, okay, what's the whole customs procedure? What do you do? And it literally was you just walk down. It was like just like no one. Well, there were some officials just waving you on, but it's all automated. I just went up to this thing, put my passport on there, and it took a picture of my face, and that's it. I'm through. Yep. And that's it? If you're flagged, it won't let the gates open. Yeah. Yes. But that was it. So I get there, and immediately my phone doesn't work. Yep. Even though I thought I put international travel on there. And I was there with the pinball princess, Steph, and we both had – Oh, you were in the same lane? No, no. Oh. You met there? We were both there, you know, arrived around the same time. And we both had crickets, and we both added what we thought was international service, but we both misconstrued it the same way. reading it again I think it just allows you to call people in other countries but no internet it doesn't even give you it just allows you to call people in other countries completely useless not what we thought it was like Verizon and international calling to your plan well it failed but they must know people are idiots and will do stuff like that so after you go through customs in the exit area whatever, which is large, huge place there. Yes. All these places and coffee and stuff I don't drink and things like that. But they had a SIM place. You could buy a SIM. But your phone, when you power it on, it says, welcome to, let's say, like in Canada, it says, welcome to Roger's phone service. Or you're in Europe, you know, when I was in, it was Nex, Netherlands technology. And, you know, and then it's $3.99 for a minute. And if you use data, it's 79 cents a megabyte. I was like, fuck this. No, I might have said. I just got another SIM, 25 pounds. Put the SIM in. I was all set to go. Piece of cake. Well, actually, they put the SIM in. Yeah, they put the SIM in, and then you have limited time. I had my own, yeah, a month. I had a month. Yeah. So, which was fine. Let's see. From there, we went, what did we do first? I think we did some sightseeing. Ooh. So I saw Big Ben. I have Big Ben. You saw Big Ben Roethlisberger, you saw. That must have been really cool. I would have thought you saw, you know, a football player. He was busy drugging some college students. Oh, my. Oh. Wow. We went there. Hey, he totally did that. I know. What else? We went to the British Museum, saw the Rosetta Stone. Okay. Like it's right there. And you see like a gypsy. So you learn how to read and write English. Yeah. That's not what the Rosetta Stone is. Right, you said Rosetta Stone. That's not what it is, though. Wait a sec. Rosetta Stone I've seen is you get this. You still have the software. Yeah, you get it. And you actually learn how to read and write whatever language you want. It's a stone thing that's got like three different sets of hieroglyphics or something on it that they use to be able to translate all kinds of shit afterwards. Yes, because they forgot. Discovered by Napoleon's army or some shit. Yeah, because they forgot. But, yeah, Egyptian stuff that's like 4,000 years old. Wow. Then we went to the hotel and... You gave them your passport. No, we didn't need it. Oh, some hotels you have to give your passport. No. This hotel did not have air conditioning at all, which I guess that's probably not really needed in there. Most Europeans don't have air conditioning. Really? Yes. Even if they're in Spain or something? Yes, Italy. I was in Italy. No, no. They just expect you to sweat? I'm confused. Open the windows. Open the windows ain't going to cut it when it's like 90-something degrees. Hey, what the fuck, you know, we just open the fucking windows, we get the fucking air. So you're saying that in Pedretti it's really hot in that facility? They probably have fans. They have fans, okay. Let's see, what else? In ways like, in the factory I used to go to in Brixen, there was one room, one room with air conditioning. That's it. In a big, humongous, 100,000 square foot factory, the one room was a clean room that they had to make heads for, for ink jets. That's the only room that was air-conditioned. You said head. But, yeah, they don't believe in air-conditioning. So the hotel, let's see, interesting things. Most of my interesting notes are about bathrooms, which is pretty bad. Yes, because they're all at the end of the hallway? No, no, no. So the bathroom in the hotel room, it didn't have toilet rolls. It had a toilet paper dispenser. Yes. Almost like you're getting tissues out or something. Yes. So weird. Did you try the bidet? It did not have a bidet. Oh, wow. Wow. You had a different European experience than I've had. Well, yeah. You probably had more expensive. This was the cheap hotel, I think. Okay. Did you like how you put your card right by the door so you had your electricity? Yes. Yes. I didn't want to tell you that one, so I was waiting for you to ask. Yeah. Yeah, you go into the room, and you can't turn the lights on unless you put your room key, the card, in the slot. That is all over the world except for the United States. That is a pain in the ass. No, it's not. It means you don't lose your key. Okay. And it saves the room, the place from having stuff running in your background. Yeah, it saves that money, yes. Yes. Yes. But it's kind of a pain in the ass. You know what you do? You do the American thing. What's the American thing? What's that? You bring another credit card or another card, you shove it in there, and you don't have it on the whole time. You cheat the system. Wait a minute. Does it not care what the – No, it doesn't care anything. All it wants to know is that there's a piece of – Plastic in there. Really? Damn. If I know that, I would have put some kind of card in there. See? Damn, okay. That's the American way. All right. America. I know that for next time. Thank you. Yes. Steph's listening right now going, son of a bitch. Yeah, Steph was there. Okay, the tub Number one, it looked big, but it really wasn't And you had to step up into it It's like, man, you better not be Decrepit or something You're going to have problems getting in this thing It's got cold and hot This is a great Pinball podcast, we're talking about bathrooms Cold and hot You turn on the hot, nothing happens You have to put it past the hot You got to put it, you got to turn on the cold to get the hot to come on too. Oh, because I know why. Because they have the hot water, the instant heat ones in the rooms. Well, either way, I actually kind of liked it because if you set the hot where you wanted it and then turned the cold all the way up, you got the exact same temperature. So if you did it the next day, boom, you instantly have the same temperature you did the first day. Okay. So that was pretty cool. What else other than the bathroom? So the vending machine. Hold on. Did you have a towel rack warmer? So what, did you put your? No. Oh, wow. We have a cheesy fucking rack. Yeah, we had to find the towels. They were like stuck off in the side, and there was hardly any towels, and they don't clean the rooms unless you ask them. Yes. So the vending machine, you see things in there like, oh, look, there's cans of soda. Then you realize, like, you know, they look small. They are small. They are. They're smaller. Everything's smaller. Of course, they're milliliters. Yes. Like 350 milliliters. But they're smaller. I mean, they're not a ton smaller. It's not like it's a tiny can. But you can tell it's a little bit smaller than the U.S. can. You realize how supersized and fat we are in the U.S. when you go there. Like the portions are all smaller. Everything is card. Like you can tap, tap, tap your card for everything. Oh, yeah, that's all they want. Yeah, they don't want cash. They don't want your money. Yeah, I mean, they got that all figured out. Like everything. It didn't matter. We went to a hot dog truck outside. Yeah, yeah. Yes. We went to a food, like the food market. I guess it's a well-known food market. I can't remember the name of it. And every single place there, you could just tappy, tappy, tappy, tappy. So they're definitely ahead of us in that category. The public transport, all tappy, tappy. Oh, their signage. I love their fucking signage. They don't have exit and entrance signs. They say way out, way in. I love it. You want a way out. It's just like, where's the way out? Oh, there it is. It literally says way out. I love it. You know why? Remember when the Flintstones had the rocking guy? We're going way out, way out. That's where the fun is, way out. Way out. I think that was the Jetsons. That was the Jetsons that had the way out guy. I think it's watching all the Monty Python, some of the expressions I got. Like, yeah, we'll sort it. Like, okay, I know what that means. When you step out of the subway cars, there was a little message here, mind the gap. Yes, mind the gap. Mind the gap. The gap between the sub and the platform, so don't fall in it. Mind the gap. And in New York City, it says, sucker. Oh, well, yeah. So there was one more sign that I thought was cute. Damn it. Yeah, we had mind the gap. we have people right now are fast forwarding as fast as they can god damn these fucking assholes well they had some great names for uh on the subway it's like when we went to California Street and we had Burlingame Burlingame, you know, Great America whatever who couldn't beat the one Jesus Christ I'm trying to find, here it is Cockfosters literally C-O-C-K-F-O-S-T-E-R-S Cockfosters I'm sure you probably pronounce it Cook-Fosters or something like that, but it's still Cock-Fosters. I love it. It's like Australian for cock, mate. Man, can you imagine if you lived there? Like, where are you from? I'm from Cock-Fosters. That would be so awesome. It would be cool. Yeah, so London, I would say it's basically a smaller version of New York City with smaller, older buildings and cleaner and much nicer people. That's how I would explain this one. Yes, totally, Greg. The people were nicer. I mean, we got helped several times by people just randomly. It was good. It was good. It was good. You know, it's New York City would be like, where the fuck are you going, dumb shit? You know, it's actually the whole experience over there was a certain attitude. And then when I came back, I came back to Newark, like the first TSA agent I hit. They obviously wanted to be anywhere but there. But there. And immediately got the attitude. It was just, ah, I'm back in the U.S. Back in the U.S. Back in the U.S. Back in the U.S. Fuck you all. Those assholes are really bad. We'll get to the pinball eventually. I'm just getting all the U.K. stuff out of the way. So then after I didn't qualify for anything, then Sunday we did more sightseeing. We went to the Tower of London. Ooh. Got to see that. That was cool. Got to see the crown jewels. I saw the literal crown jewels. I learned that Charles II was the man because he reestablished the monarchy, and everything in there was like from 1661 on. which is amazing that they're, I mean, you're looking at something that's older than our country. Yep. You know, they had like the biggest diamond in the world there supposedly, and it was quite big. Yeah, I got to see all the jewels, the crowns and shit, all these kings and queens wear. You couldn't take any pictures, boo. I know. The Tower of London, our tour guide was awesome. He was as British as fuck and super entertaining. He had like the big fucking beard. He had, you know, are the Americans here? You know, any Australians here, welcome back. Because Australian was a prison colony for it. Yeah, we got to see the Ravens. They have a bunch of Ravens that are at the Tower of London that live there, and they just hang around the place. One of them just went right into the garbage next to us and was just, like, throwing shit out. Big motherfucker, too. So they're the assholes of the country. Yeah, Ravens. Coming back was more of the pain, honestly. Oh, yeah. Totally getting back in this country is worse. Yeah. So he flew back into Newark. Yep. You got to get your bags. Wait, I didn't have any. So mine's... Okay. I just had the backpack. So then you get in line, and then you got to go through and talk to the whatever. TSA. The guy. Customs. Yeah, show him your... Customs. Yeah, customs. Show him your passport. Yep. You buy anything, like, well, I bought a playing card set of the kings and queens of Robert Englunds. That's actually all I bought. I was pretty bad. Oh, like, okay. So then, with the party, I realized, you get through that, you exit, and then you've got to go through security again. Yes, you do, which makes no fucking sense. Oh! Yeah, I know. Because it was like, you can exit, and then there's go back to the terminal. Like, oh, okay. So you go back to the terminal, but then I'm in front of security. Like, I've got to go through it again? Shit. Yep. And thank God. Welcome to America. Thank goodness I have TSA pre. That's all I got to say. But, yeah, I got through, and it's like 4 o'clock. And because I had overcompensated, I thought it was going to be even harder. You know, I thought it was going to be absolute hell, like hours and hours to get through customs. And it was not. No, it's gotten better. So my plane didn't leave until 10. Oh, fuck. Oh, God. It's like, is there an earlier flight? And I look, and there is. So I go up there. Can I get on the waiting list, please? so they put me on the waiting list, and I go get a cheeseburger, and as I'm eating it, you have been assigned a seat. Oh, you lucked out. Fuck, yeah, yeah, I totally lucked out, because I went up, because instead I was assigned a seat, but when I clicked on a link, it told me the flight had left, which is totally bogus, so I went up to the desk, and yeah, you don't have a seat. I'm like, eh, I don't know if I believe you, so I waited until the Albany crew came in for my gate, said, hey, I was told I have a seat. Let's see your ID. I gave him my ID. Tap, tap, tap, tap. Click, click, click, click, click. Print out a ticket. Here you go, sir. Seat 18, whatever the hell it was. Like, yeah, motherfucker, yeah. And the flight back from Newark was 30 minutes. Yeah, that is nice. Too bad we taxi for 45. 45. And we had to take a bus to get to the plane. Oh, God, I hate that. United sucks. United sucks. I knew it was United just by the way you. Oh, yes. It was United. They love to fly, and it shows. And it shows. Not with their happiness, but it shows. But, yeah. Yeah, I will say some of the rudest gate attendants are in Newark. And, well, it's New Jersey. You know all about New Jersey. I mean, you're from New Jersey, and you're an asshole. We all know this. I'm an asshole, so, yeah. What does that tell you? I fit right in. You fit right in. Yeah, you're just normal there. I'm trying to think. Anything else? I'm just fun going to all the sites. I don't, again, I don't like cities, so it's just way too crowded for me. I could never, not a fan. It's not his thing. No, it's not my thing. I love the double-decker bus, so get on the double-decker bus and get on the front of the top, and it looks like you're about to hit everything. It's amazing. Every time you take a turn, it looks like you're going to hit shit. It's just crazy. It looks like we're going to hit so many people, too, as they go by the bus. It's just like, oh, the streets are so narrow, and you've got to get used to everything's on the left. Even when you go upstairs, it's like, keep left, keep left. So by the end of the trip, I was, keep left, left, left, left. I had it in my brain. Then you got into your car when you got back from Newark, and you're like, fuck! Then I went, wrong way, shit! Did you see any pinball machines in the wild? No. Wow. What does that tell you? Well, it didn't go that many places in the wild. Let's say we went to a restaurant, an Italian restaurant, and it was pretty good. Hey, we're always fucking good. Oh, we fucking will. Yes. And it's like, where's the restrooms? They're down these stairs, dangerously steep stairs. Like, holy shit. It's like not handicapped, accessible at all. So you go down there, and the bathroom, the toilet was like old school. Had the tank was like way up by the ceiling with a big chain thing coming down. Oh, I love that. Most of my stories were about toilets. You notice that? It's pretty sad. He gets all excited about it, guys. I like old shit like that. Potty humor. I like old shit like that and everything there is old as fuck. Well, because you are fucking old. You're really fucking old. They're old. They're old as fuck. Things like all the traffic lights are on poles. They don't have cables going across. Nope. It's all underground. Yeah, it's all underground because they're smart, unlike us. Well, New York City is better with that. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, exactly. I know he doesn't. That's why I made fun of it. I don't think we went anywhere else. I mean, we went back to the museum because Steph had to. When we were at the museum the first time, the Japanese section had closed before Steph got to see it. So we had to go back because Steph had to see the Japan section. Oh, they had a section on currency there. I love that. I love currency. And they had one on clocks and watches. That's cool. And I love that. So that was nice. Overall, a very good trip except for you suck at pinball. I didn't think I played that bad, but it's tough. So the whole reason I went there was for the U.K. Open. U.K. Open. U.K. Open. Okay, guys, you can stop at this point with fast-forwarding, and you can now enjoy pinball talk. Pinball talk. So, UK Open, Neil McRae's tournament, which he is definitely trying to – it's like the European INDISC, basically. Everything is card format which if you don know what that is it basically you play five in this case I think every single tournament was five games And however you did on those five games is your card So consistency is key which I suck at so I knew I was doomed unfortunately If it was four games, I might have been able to do it, but it is really hard for me to get five good games. So they had different tournaments going on. They had the main tournament, the UK Open tournament itself, and they had an A and a B division. Then they had the Classics Tournament, which is what I played in. They had a Women's Tournament. And then they had the Pinball Republic, which is just like an extra tournament. But I kept calling it the Banana Republic because that's what I thought it said the first time I looked at it on my phone. So I kept saying it, and people were like, what do you mean the Banana Republic? And then they said it on stream. I think Levy was on stream, and he called it the Banana Republic. Yikes. So, um... Yeah, we're Americans. We're not going to let them back in our country. But they had a shit ton of games there. That's good. And they have a... There's a cap to how many people can be in the tournament. I can't remember what it was. I think it was 200, 150, 200, something like that. So I can... Truthfully, after playing all these tournaments all year, this was the nicest experience so far. Besides Stomp? Stop I got to do shit at, so that's not a nice experience. Oh. So, no. This, because I played in, we'll go through the card-based. I played in card-based tournaments. Indisc is awesome, but it's also extremely popular and crowded. Yes, it is. So, you get pretty long queues, queue times. Yes, you do. Fantastic. You can get long queue times depending on what game you're on. You have, like, The Beast, where everything tilted. you know in class six you couldn't do anything for a lot of the games this was like i had to get used to being able to actually nudge it was so weird like i i made some moves like oh that's a tilt obviously like no no it's not shit okay i i just felt like like the shackles had come off or something and then you look at the cues and it's like oh wow there's one person in front of There was never more than two people in front of me, no matter what queue, no matter what tournament. Whether it was Pinball Republic, Maine, Classics, didn't matter. I'm your Venus, I'm your fire, Banana Republic. Oh yeah, in the Banana Republic, the Pinball Republic, there is no way I shouldn't have qualified for that because five of the ten games they have, I own. And you didn't. And I still fail. And I had big games on almost all of them, but not in the same card. You know, like $200 million on Lethal Weapon 3, but then other shit games that ruin it. And it's so hard. It's so hard. Pinball's hard, folks. Well, of course, Raymond Davidson, he played his first entry in Classics and qualified. And was done. Was done. Entry five of the tournament. Steph played in the women's tournament. She played one entry, number one qualifier, until Kerry Wink decided that that wasn't going to fly and became the number one qualifier. But there you go. Yeah, she played like one. So this just tells me something. I'm going to give you a little helpful advice. I suck? You suck. Yeah. No, besides that, you need to play more at the RPC. Oh, God. Because guess what? What? Steph's getting better and better. Yeah, she finished third in the women's, so she got something. I got nothing. You got a handful of... Robert from RPC, he was there, and we both got nothing. We were both the big losers. Robert's only been playing pinball for about two years, so I'll give him a little... Oh! Give him a little stop, you know, a little... Okay. Okay. But you, on the other hand, the old man of pinball. Old man, look at this ball. It's a little blurry. Actually, I got new glasses and everything's blurry right now. My eyes are getting used to it. Old man. But, yes, the tournament was in a hotel, and you kind of had to know where it was because it wasn't really barf. You walk in, and you're like, where is it? You know, through these doors, and then you walk in. Oh, and you'll walk in in the free play area, basically, before you go into the tournament area. They had, I think, five games. I'm trying to remember exactly what they had. I think they had, I said, Twilight Zone, Elton John, and Avatar. You know, brand-new Avatar there. Oh, Beat the Clock, a battle to beat the clock, the Solid State one. Yeah, the Solid State, 1983, 84. And dialed in. Yes. Well, they put that down. You know why? They put the shitty games out front so it might attract some pretty people that don't know them. So Elton John is shitty? Okay. No, no, no, no, no. That's the most eye-catching one. Oh, oh, okay. The light show brings people in. Yes. It does. Okay. It does. The other games, they all sucked. They all sucked. All right. Firestone, overrated. Beat the Clock, timed, sucks. Dialed in, sucks. Wait a minute. Doesn't Keith Elwin like Beat the Clock, I believe? Well, you know, once in a while, Keith, it was a little crazy. Okay. This shit happens. but um the other thing is even the tournament tappy tappy just use your card oh did i mention it was cheaper also on top of everything else what yeah i calculated this it was like 75 pounds for 10 entries if you calculate it to american money it was like a buck 50 a game wow yeah So let's see. Cheaper, more games, no wait times, and you can move the games around. Hold on. How much did your flight cost? Oh, yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, it's like over a grand for me because I'm from Albany. So it's not cheap for me to get there. No. But, God damn, if we could have a tournament like that here that's that cheap with that much. The problem is if you had it here, though, you'd have way more demand. That's the thing. Well, you can have a tournament game. I mean, it's called InDisc, but, I mean, hundreds of people want to play in InDisc. How about the Royal Rumble at RPC? That's pretty cheap, I hear. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, hold on. Let me just finish up UK before you start plugging other shit. So, what else? I have to say something negative because this is Slamtel. I can't be totally positive about everything. Your chips were not crispy enough. Well, all the scorekeepers wore sashes that said scorekeeper. I like that. I like that. I like that a lot. You hear that, America? You need to get some sashes going on there. Or even like a – I did like the training crosswalk thing at the beach, but we need something a little nicer. Jeff, make that so. Okay. What was I saying? So what they were doing when games broke down, and I thought this was a cool idea. Typically, when you see a game breaks down and then the person's over there working on it, like in the row while the action's going on, they would just stick the thing on the cart and get it the hell out of there and bring it to another area where they would fix it. And then they would bring it back. I'm like, oh, that's cool. But I think because of that and a lot of them moving around, what happened is the game started to get some of them not as level as they were. That's what I don't like about it. That's the only thing. That's the problem. And I guess that would be my only criticism. That's my problem with those things. when you move them and then you move them back. To be fair, they didn't have rubber feet and they were on carpet, so they're going to move anyway. Yeah, I agree. But I would say if I had any advice, maybe rubber feet, put like a tape thing around where the feet are, a square, so you know where it was. So when you bring it back, you put it in the same spot. Yes. Then in theory, it should be leveled. Be leveled again. That's it. That's literally all I could say. The main tournament finished in a good time, but they had to have that Pinball Republic one, and that was still going as of when we left. I did some commentary. I did commentary of the classic semifinal, and then when we got back from sightseeing Sunday, we're sitting there watching the Pinball Republic finals, and they're going on and on and on. Eventually, I get waved into the announce booth. So I was in there for the semifinals again, and it was just, it took forever. Oh, these are the longer playing games. It's painful. And it's like 1 in the morning, like, guys, we got to go. We're tapping. We're tapping out. I think that finished at like 2 in the morning. But the winners, it was a cool experience overall. Next year you're going there, right? We'll see. That's a positive. I mean, yeah, I mean, if it's like that, I mean, but it's expensive to get over there. That's the thing. But, man, being able to actually nudge games and having no cue time. It's like I would put myself in cue and I start talking to somebody. It's like, oh, you're up. Like, what? I'm not used to this at all. This is so bizarre. It also makes it easier to spend more money. Yeah. Because it's just like you could just pound entry after entry after entry. Oh, I didn't say. I had one classic century that put me, like, in the middle, the middle of the pack for getting into the finals. But it was on Friday, and it's like, oh, that's going to bleed out. And it did. And it bled out right at the end. But the one game in there that sucked was my big game score. If I just hit maybe one or two lit spinners, I was in. I would have made it. So I did have at least one entry. And then the main, I did my usual. I played like two entries where I just played games that I like and didn't really care how I did, just to say I played in it. And the Banana Republic, Jesus, Pinball Republic, I tried a few times there because I own five of the fucking games. Yeah, and you failed. And I had big games on it, but I couldn't do it in the same damn card. It killed me. I think we have the title for our show this week. Banana Republic? Banana Republic. Yes. I don't know. That's how I saw it on my phone for a second. I thought, oh, that's a cute name. And then I saw it was because I think Pinball Republic is what they call their group, the UK. The group where all these games came from. Their RPC equivalent, like their club, that's where all these games came from. Oh, and kudos to the guy who brought all the Zacharias. Oh, that's cool. Including a spooky, which I had never seen. There are only like 80 of them. It has an owl on the back glass that blinks at you. Oh, that's fucking cool. And the mech is super noisy, too. You can hear it. Click, click, click, click, click. Yes. It was an interesting game. It just had one drop target. Did they have a European Gametron? Go on. No, they didn't have a European Gametron. I'm sorry. No Sonic Gametron. Fuck me. No Sonic Gametron. So let's go over the champions here. Ooh-hoo. The U.S. kicked ass. America, fuck yeah. Except for the Pinball Republic, they fired out. And finally, we had a nod. Timber won. Timber Engelbeam, followed by Vigo, followed by Julio, followed by Zach McCarthy. American in fourth. But for all the other tournaments, for the women's tournament, Carrie Wing. Nice, congratulations. Yes, with Helen D. I'm not even going to try to pronounce it. Steph Guida in third. Ooh. In Walt Princess. And Amy Ziegenhagen. I really should try to pronounce all these just to embarrass myself. Then we had the classics. Try. Fuck you. So in the classics, the final four of the classics, it was Three Kids and Raymond Davidson. Yikes. And Raymond won? Holy shit. He is the only person who can beat the kids. That's it. So Raymond Davidson in first. Edel Lefkoff in second. Hey, that old fuck must be moving up in the points, I'm thinking. Vigo in third. And Jason Zahler in fourth. And for the actual UK Open, the main tournament, the winner was Zach McCarthy. who in qualifying almost did a perfect run. He had number one score in three of the five games, and the two that he didn't were games that he already had the first from a previous run. It was some just absolutely absurd. Okay, so you are sitting down. And Paul Englert in second, Jason Zahler in third, and Lucas Martin in fourth. There we go. There's all your winners. Yikes. So, Raymond's finish in first in classics. How many points do you think that netted him? I don't know. I don't know how any of that shit works, Bruce. How much do you think? Come on, make a guess. You don't know, so that's perfect. You're making a guess. 50. How about 217? Holy shit, that's a lot of points. Yeah, thank you. How the fuck do you get that many points? So, how many do you think the Pinball Republic winner won for the first? 100. 198. Oh. Okay. I'm getting to the U.S. How about the women's then? I don't know because I'm not in the women's. Oh, the women's, I think they had like 19 players. So probably not 200 on that one. Yeah, I wouldn't think so either. And for the U.K. Open. The main tournament. How much do you think Zach McCarthy took home? 250. 234. Okay. Whopper mania. So just think, Raymond's two losses that you would say. You know, he came in 11th in the Banana Republic, and he came in 27th in the regular Open. Didn't even touch his card. Didn't even touch it. Bummer. Yeah. Zoinks. So that was the UK Open. Thank you, Robert Englunds. Tally-ho. Tally-ho. Good show out there. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Okay, Bruce, you were talking about the Royal Rumble. Do you mean the wrestling event? Yes, brother. Okay. Zach's going to get him on the top rope and do the old suplex on you, brother. Okay. We got a tournament coming up, and I just posted it, and the tickets went on sale yesterday, Saturday. Wait a minute. There's tickets? Well, entry. Oh. Entry. Okay. Yeah. So what is it, Bruce? explain. Oh, God. Now I've got to get the whole thing out. Hold on. Well, Jesus, you're the one who fucking brought it up. No, I know, but I didn't expect you to go this fast. Go this fast? I said we were done with the UK thing. We would go to you. No, you said you were going to go to INDISC next. I did? Yes, you did. Okay, INDISC. INDISC is coming up, and the tickets just went on sale for INDISC yesterday. Are you going? Yeah, plan to. October 5th yesterday. The tickets went on sale. If you wanted to play in the match play tournament, the Classics match play, which is the one thing I definitely need to play in when I'm there, because it's the one thing I usually do pretty good at, you had to get the VIP package, and they usually sell out pretty quick. I heard they sold out in like a minute. I did get in. Thank goodness. I have tickets, so I plan to be there. That's good. So that will be in January. I did look at flights, and it looks like some of the American Airlines flights I went on last year no longer exist. Of course not. So going to have to take a different approach. But it looks like it's doable. But it looks like no red-eye flights, so we'll probably end up leaving early Sunday morning instead, which is a bummer because I kind of like to hang out and watch some of the finals. Yeah. But I don't want to pay for another day of hotel. I have an idea for you. Okay. Out of Buffalo. I know it's a four-hour drive, but listen, it's easy driving. Easy listening, easy driving. No. Buffalo is a direct right to Los Angeles. Not going to Los Angeles. Where is it? That's the whole problem. Yeah, you don't go to Los Angeles. Oh, you want to go to Ontario. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Way, way, way nicer. We did the LAX thing for years. Renting a car, having to drive out there fucking sucks. Ontario, you just get an Uber to the hotel. don't have to pay for the rental car or parking or anything. Oh, so much better. Do not want to do it the other way anymore. Want to avoid LAX. You got your stuff yet? Not yet. Indus. Yes, Indus will be exciting. It will be basically like the UK Open, but with way more people. They'll have a Classics, a Main. Looking forward to it. It will be at the end of January. I think last year was the beginning of January, So it's a little later than it was last year, or this year, I should say. Oh, and congratulations to the Sanctum 10-year anniversary. Yes, definitely. I couldn't go because I was working at the RPC, of course, and I had to work my regular job. They had their 10-year anniversary party yesterday. Very cool. Congratulations to Jim and the gang there. Yeah. Who won it? 10 years. Eric Geddes, I think that's how you say his last name. I know Eric. He used to be at the fun spot when we used to have tournaments there. He is a classic specialist, definitely. Looks like he beat Davey. Poor Davey Pleston in the finals. Davey's the local guy who can never get into the 24-hour. He's at the bottom of the lotto every year. I really think someone should vote or someone should just give up their spot. Yeah, here you go. Take my spot. Here you go. Please. Oh, well, I guess it can't work that way. It doesn't work that way. You should just get some. I mean, just come on. Pity party. Come on. Just let the poor guy play. Okay, I'm killing time, Bruce. I'm ready now. Okay, so the Royal Rumble of RPC. Royal Rumble. Well, where is RPC, Bruce? Rochester Pinball Collective is at 349 West Commercial Street in beautiful East Rochester, New York. Suite number 2965 at beautiful Rochester. Wow. Flame out. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Where we kill them every weekend. So you're going to have this new thing you're going to try on. December 13th through the 15th. It's the Fall Rumble. Yeah, Fall Winter Rumble. Fall Rumble. Yes. Yeah. Two certified tournaments going on at one price. So we have a 40-game match play in three sessions, Friday and Saturday, with a head-to-head best-of-five finals on Saturday and Sunday for the top 24. Max of 64 players. Top eight plus are paid out, depending on what we have as our final count. Also, a best six game unlimited herb. I always like to say, like, herb. With qualifying Thursday through Saturday with group match play finals on Sunday with the top 24 or 50% of the players. Bank of 10 games, all eras. Six entries included with registration, and additional entries are $2. See, a little bit more than the English, but, you know, and six for 10. So it's actually cheaper if you go six for ten. So what does Herb mean? What format is that, Bruce? Explain. It's a pump and dump. It's really a pump and dump. So you're going to be trying for the best score. Well, why do they call it Herb? I'll give it to our Pinball Chronicle guy who does all the history. You mean Silver Ball Chronicles? No, Pinball Chronicles. The other podcast I'm on, which can be heard on the Pinball Network, where we talk about history. No, I think someone was actually using that, too. Really? At some point. That's why, yeah. And I like Silver Ball Chronicles better. Wow. Because I came up with it. Wow. I'm pretty sure I did. Because there was another one that had a similar name, and I said, like, why don't we just call it this? And they're like, yeah, that sounds good. And that's what you go with. I always was told that it was named after Herb Silvers, a fabulous fantasies in Las Vegas, who would throw, have these tournaments where they would do that, basically what we call a pump and dump. So it became the Herb format. So the entry fee is $85 for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. If you want to play on Thursday for the Herb qualifying, that is an extra fee, but it will be $15 instead of the normal $20 going into RPC. So a little discount there also. On Friday, the 18-game classic match play at 6 p.m. Herb qualifying starts at 4 and goes on to 11, so you can do it the whole night. If you want to jump on a game, jump off, jump on, you're more than welcome to. On Saturday, we have a 12-game mid and modern match play at 10 a.m. Then at 3 p.m., we have a 10-game classic max match play. And then a max match play round of 24 and 16 starts at 6.30 p.m. on Saturday. And Herb qualifying is from 9 a.m. to 11 p.m. all throughout the time. We are open at 9 a.m. our PC time. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Sign-ins for finals start at 9 a.m. Must be signed in before the first round starts unless cleared by a TD in advance. Herb finals round of 24 start to 10 a.m. Max match play round of 8 start to 11.30. Finals should be done by 4 or 5. Free play for tournaments on unused machines from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Full whopper whoring engaged. Engaged. But wait, our cost is only $85. This includes... What does it include, Bruce? It includes one spot in the max match play, six entries into the HERB, admission to RPC Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. $35 goes to RPC, $12 goes to HERB. The rest we put towards prizes, trophies, and et cetera. And then, of course, the fine print, 50% refunds from November 15th to the 30th, no refunds after December 1st. and we are about, I think we have 22 people already signed up. So we're moving right up after one day. You know what you really need, Bruce? What's that? You know what we used to do for events at your house? You know, we do little promo spots. A flyer. No, like a video. Ah, we should do a video. Remember we had the one that was the... The camping. Well, yeah, but there was another... The pinpalooza. Yes, but what was the parody we did? It was, oh, if you build it, they will come. That was awesome. Yes. That was awesome. We get to show the train in the back. The train. Jesus Christ. Smack. That could be your new logo is the train. Yeah. Let's see. Is there any train-based pinball? There's got to be. Ooh. Probably in the 50s and 60s, but nothing anywhere. Yeah. You don't even have like a roller coaster being the closest thing to a train for newer stuff. So you're done with that? You're done with plugging? Are you going to be coming, Ron, since it's December 13th through the 15th? You've got to plan out your days. Probably if it doesn't snow. It's not going to snow. It never snows in Rochester. Yeah, bullshit. Bullshit. It doesn't. Bullshit. Wait a sec. Let's go back to past histories for Carl Weathers. Yeah. I remember going to Silver Ball Saloon days where it just snowed. The Carl Weathers was horrifically bad. And I'm like, why am I out here? Why am I out here in this Carl Weathers in fucking Rochester? That totally happened. You're just going cold. You're just a wussy. I don't like it when I'm sliding all over the road. Did you hear that whining? I just fucking heard it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to drive three hours in the fucking snow. Okay, here we go. Carl Weathers history. What? No, we're not doing Carl Weathers history. Yes, we are. No, we're not. You brought the fuck up, and I'm now going live. I'm going live. I'm going live right now. Here we go. By the way, Bader, who we mentioned last episode. Is that Master? And I could have swore like I've heard that before. Yes, Bader, who is doing the collector's edition Avatar playfields for Jersey Jack, they're the company that does the playfields for Spooky. You know, the ones that never have issues. Well, except for that short TNA run, which, of course, I had one of those. But other than that, do not have issues. So maybe more people should use Bader. Okay. Oh, God. So it did not snow on December 13th last year. You're looking at this specific day, Greg. Yep, specific day. So that's history. History is great. You just said you like history in Robert Englunds, but if it's in Rochester, you'd say, fuck now. I have some interesting history to talk about. Yes. in 2022 oh god no why are we doing this no precipitation precipitation yeah whatever word you said precipitation there you go but uh okay 2021 here we go uh-huh it'll be cold yeah ron hates cold that's the problem i hate cold you'll probably have the air conditioning on too even when it's cold outside actually in 2021 it was 55 degrees whoa rochester Whoa, that tells me global warming is in full effect. 2020. This will be almost the silver ball times. Okay, Bruce, we're going to have a return to the show of an old favorite. Okay, baiter, baiter. No, no, no, no. We're having a return of an old favorite. I actually miss doing this on the show. But you know, brother, Robert Mueller's back, dude. Did you know my judgment came through, brother? The judgment day, so now he's been judged. That's right, D. The judgment has come through, brother. So, yes, Robert Mueller, I'm looking at it right here, the actual judgment, ordered and decreed that the defendant, Mueller, is liable for disorgament. I don't even know what that is. Disorgament. Totaling $52,116,414. Now, who are the plaintiffs? I don't know, all the old people he screwed over. Okay, not anybody in pinball? I don't think so. Okay, I don't remember. So he ripped off enough old people. He at least ripped off at least 150 or 200. Hold on, I'm not done. What? Also, amount of $16,583,273 in interest. Holy shit. But wait, I'm not done. Oh. Also, a civil penalty in the amount of $2,264,959. What do you know, brother? How am I going to afford that ring for my fourth wife, dude? What the hell is this shit? I can't afford that kind of money, brother. And do you know where he works now? Walmart as a greeter? No. He works at fucking Boeing. Boeing? Oh, my fucking God. Yes. That is so perfect. Oh my God Great guy and he be able to improve our company Yeah I sure he not on the line I sure he an executive there Of course Ah dude This is why the doors blew out of a Boeing jet This is exactly why. It was Deepfrook that did it somehow. Muelleromics. Muelleromics. That's right. Muelleromics, dude. It's all part of Muellermania. Yeah, brother. Muellermania. That's right, dude. We got to raise the money to pay all this shit back, dude. Oh, God. I really need to find out if there's any pinball plaintiffs in that. That would be awesome if there was a couple, I hope. But I saw that. I mean, he's not going to be able to pay any of that back. No. He's not going to jail either. It's white-collar crime, and that's the problem with this country. Yeah. Yeah, we need white-collar crime people getting put in jail and butt-fucked, just like everyone else. God damn it. Yeah, because guess what? A guy – wait a second. I could rip off people for, say, $50 million, not go to jail, but hey, if I have an ounce of cocaine on me, I'm done for 12 years. What? Huh? Huh? How about steroids, brother? Which I've never done either. Which I've never done either, you know, so what does that tell you? But it's just, holy fuck, I could rip off people left and right and ruin their lives and ruin their futures. but there's a real fucking imbalance in this country. And that's the problem. That's the problem. You heard it here. What grinds Bruce's gears? No. Guess what? All I'm going to say is about the next month, go vote. That's all. No. Vote what you want to vote. You know what you should vote for? More pinball. No, what you should vote for is none of the above. Just like Bruce's millions. I'm voting for none of the above. So, you know what's coming up, Bruce? What's coming up, Ron? Expo. Expo. In a couple weeks' time. Yeah, our next episode will probably be after Expo. Yes, though. First is York. Oh, York. Okay. York is this weekend coming up. Oh. Okay. I'm going. You'll have to tell us if you get any more deals. No, I got no money. Oh, you got no money. Yeah, I've only gotten donations of up to $75 on the old expense. But there are plans moving around. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Okay. Coals are in the fire. They're moving around. So at Expo, there's going to be some debuts and some newer games that just came out. We expect to see Avatar there. X-Men there. Oh, I was listening to the Pinball News, the Pinball Magazine podcast or whatever, and they brought up something. I didn't even think of this, and I believe it's true. And it's so opposite of usual. Avatar, right? When they announced Avatar, they had already been building them. Yes, for about two weeks. Yeah, and they were like, boom, out. Yep, out the door. X-Men, on the other hand, did not. Oh, no. They debuted it, and it didn't come out until a couple weeks later. Later, and... That's so different than usual. And then it was really just, I think they said, like, was it pros? Like that little batch of pros, then LEs, then back to pros, and then they're going to do, I think, premiums after that. Their whole schedule got messed up because of the whole canceled game. I mean, what I believe was supposed to happen, it was supposed to be Borg next, and whatever game he was working on, which most people seem to think it was Indiana Jones, some equivalent, and I'm like, what fucking Indiana Jones? They already did the trilogy. Then they did the second one, which was all four movies, but really it was just the one ramp. It was called the Crystal Skull Ramp. They had no clips from the fourth movie because it wasn't out yet. If they were going to do it again, what the fuck was it going to be? The fifth movie? The Dial of Dysentery, you know. Yeah, which I'm thinking that's why it got canceled because that movie just bombed. Everyone knew that movie was going to bomb long before it was ever released. It just had the stink of death on it. Indy, are you pooping again in the toilet? I can't get off the board. So they canceled that. Yeah. So they had to move X-Men up. But I'm just curious what version of Indiana Jones it was. It had to be five. Or maybe all five. All five. Because they did all three, all four, and all five. Yeah. Yeah, I'm hoping that would have been it, but that movie was so bad. And they canceled it, and I wonder if Disney didn't like that. Like, why did you cancel that on us? You know, that's Disney, because they ruined everything. Just like they ruined the music on X-Men. X-Men. Again, you're going to have this cool layout with shitty call-outs, because you're forced. I am stoned! Not that bad. I am bad, because you're forced to use their actors. I know. Stop. I have this whole thing about just give me fucking good call-outs. Yeah, exactly. You know, say what you want about the Williams games. They're shallow. They're not as deep as today's games. Yeah, but you know what? I can enjoy them. Everyone can quote their games. Make it so, number one. Even if you don't know, like, hey, Bruce, lock his lat. Yeah. If you had shot the trajectory of the ball. Thank you, Mr. Dana. Oh, yes. Oh, I forgot that. Yes, you could skip that. Yeah. That was actually, that is the best rule that what's-his-name made ever. Oh, Dwight Sullivan. Yeah, Dwight Sullivan. That is the best fucking rule of all time. When Dana starts talking, you can interrupt him and get 10 million points. That's what he would usually do. Thank you, Mr. Dana. Shut up. Yeah, like, if you had done the trajectory right of that, you know. Thank you, Mr. Dana. That is the best fucking rule ever. Like, I know, just get the call-outs. I would take less call-outs if they're memorable call-outs. Some life to them. I was, you know, Avatar, I was listening to that. They got two narrators, and all they do is they just tell you, like, shoot this, shoot this, shoot this. Where's the military guy, the colonel that you supposedly did 400 lines? I want to hear, hey, I'll shoot Jackpot. Give me something. Tim Norrell will shoot you out. I'm not saying every game has to be psycho, but most of them should be. Come on. Tim Tim Kitzrow, he should be hired for every game. Go! Even less the games that people don't like. Road Show, I'm shooting down. Party time. Put on your dancing shoes. I mean, come on. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Everyone remembers these call outs. Meow, meow, meow. Meow, meow, meow. You remember that. You remember that. You know, super jackpot. Oh, baby. Yeah, I know. Where are these? I don't see them today. No, you get this. You get jackpot. Jackpot. Give me my call outs, goddammit. Honestly, the best cool-outs I'm going to say, I play it now at the RPC, and it warms me. And it's not that great of call-outs either, is Iron Man. When you hear some of the quotes from the movie, you're like, wow, this makes me feel warm and fuzzy. This makes me feel like old Williams stuff. And they have gotten away from that a lot. And it sucks. It's like if they're just stuck with a licensor, their call outs are fucked. Yeah. And it's just, and they're never going to recover because they have to use, like, you have to use the Marvel approved voice actors. Yeah, but they suck. And I will say Alien, as much as I hate the fucking pinball machine. Yeah, but they use the fucking clip from the movie. Holy shit. You get to hear, you know, game over, man. Game over. I mean, yeah. Exactly. That's the best part of that game. We went from the era where you could get the main star of the game. Like you have Dracula. We have Gary Oldman. Here, do this call out. 30 million! Oh, fucking awesome. Now you can't get any of the main stars. Oh, no, you get the main star coming up to the game and going, Hey, dude, I can play my own game. How did you do this? Because you got fucking what's-his-name from freaking John Wick, who didn't even know that the pinball machine was there. Oh, right or wrong? Yeah, he didn't even know. He didn't even know! Although I don't know how good his call outs would have been. But guess what? You could have tried to get him, and it just proves that they didn't. I'm back. Yeah. They probably couldn't even get to him, to be honest. Exactly, but that's the problem. But it's like, then it's like you're going to, you have to use this Marvel to prove actors. Okay, what was the last good? Besides, think about it. What was the? Elton John is good. Yeah, Elton John is good. I'm talking about Stern. Ellen John is good, and it keeps the rule that if you have a woman doing the call, she has to have a British accent. I don't know when this rule came up, but it's the new rule. It's keeping the British in business. Don't worry. We're giving them jobs. Godzilla. Godzilla's got great call-outs. But it's not original. I'm talking original call-outs from Stern. What do you mean original? They're all original call-outs from Godzilla. What are you talking about? No. What do you mean no? They're all original call-outs. No. Shoot the truck. That's not original. I'm talking about that, the quotes. That's, okay, you got, you lost me entirely. The guy that, the side guy. I don't believe what I just said. Yes, that is fair. I agree. But the other guy, you know, some of the other stuff is not. The guy that does all the voices in that game. Really? Yes, I believe it's the same dude. I don't. They've had that guy. He's like their Tim Kistro now. He did, he's in Iron Maiden, which is another good one. Just two, two people. That's it. And they're all, like, they insult you, make fun of you. They got some inflection. I'm not saying Stern can't do it. I'm just saying we get... Like Ghostbusters. I actually will say Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters is awesome. Yeah. You get all the quotes. Even though he's doing Super Jackpot for like a million. I know. But even Game of Thrones, you get the movie quotes and that kind of stuff. That you want to hear. I don't want to hear some fucking Marvel actor who just, you know, oh, wow, this is a comic book. I'll take these stones and try to sound like them, and they're totally wrong. It's just, give me my call-outs. It's even more important than the music to me. Like Deadpool got it sorted, right? Oh, Deadpool. It doesn't even make sense how that existed. I know. The guy was from the video game and all that. And they let him fucking do anything. Like, we want to make a Polka song. Sure. You got to be good. Whatever. Do whatever you want. Like, holy shit. Look how much better that is. I know. As opposed to, you must use our Marvel voice actors. Yeah. And they suck. They suck, Stern. I know. I don't know what Stern can do, though. Well, maybe pay a little bit more and try to buy us to contact us. Try to buy, like, hey, we don't like your voice actors. They suck. Please, can we use our own? Well, then you go, look, look, J.J.P. got this person and this person and this person. And look how much better their sounds are and their game sold better. You could probably say that because, look, it dialed in. It sucked. And, you know, that was really bad. The call-outs are great. No, no, no, but it still sucked because it was, you know, not a thing. It's not after a game. Toy Story, I think the call outs are fine. The music's fine. Yeah, they are, but the music just gets on my fucking head. The music just wants to fucking shoot myself. Even Willy Wonka. Even Willy Wonka. Yeah, well, at least he's got the quotes from the movie again. Yeah, exactly. They at least try to get the assets, but ugh. Just like, oh, if that's the best you can get for call outs, don't do the game. Don't do it then. Don't do it. I'm sorry. I know you're bad with fucking Disney. But God damn. Star Trek was the beginning of the end for Stern when it came to that kind of stuff. Well, they didn't have What's-His-Face at first. They didn't have Carl Urban. No, and I don't think that was originally the plan, but he was like a pinhead. He was like, hey, you want me to do some call-outs? Fuck yeah. Here. Just give me an L.E. They just gave him a script and an L.E. And boom, he recorded all that stuff. Yeah. Come on. But that's the problem, you know. You know what? Sopranos was really the last one where they had the whole cast. Yes. You name one that had that many cast members that they got call-outs for. Usually they'll get one person. Exactly. That was like the last time that was allowed to happen. Yeah. Okay. What was I talking about? I got so off in the – oh, yeah, new games at Expo. So we're going to have X-Men. we're going to have Avatar even though you've seen it, I have not Rumored Metallica I wonder either if it'll be at the show or do you remember what they did with Elvira last year? They had it at the end of the tour But they did with Star Trek Oh yeah, the L.E. Yeah, that was a good decision They got him two sales Two sales instantly Well they already got Salah completely But, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do that. I mean, I believe it's coming. That's what I've heard from everybody. Everybody has said that that is what's coming. Same play field, though. So how many are they going to sell? Is it? Is it? I heard it is. Yeah, I heard it is, too. I heard it is. All I heard is color. The thing is, though, it should be better because it will be in stereo. It'll be better in stereo, but how do you do Sparky? How do you do other things? That's what I'm saying. You're going to have, then, animation. Oh, yeah, yeah. Is it going to be a new animation sequence? I guess we'll find out, but I'm hoping that will be at Expo. They had Cuphead, which their original idea was to have it at Expo, but then I guess they saw all these other games and probably said, no, let's not do that. No, no. We don't want to put a fucking game like this against these games. Yeah, but what's the point? Then it's like you're not putting yourself out there with the other games to let it, you know, show its merits. It's not going to show its merits to this fucking Cuphead. You're going against me. We know this is going to sell, so we're going to wait. Yeah, but if you're going to wait, then they're going to see these other games like, okay, I'm getting that. Okay, now I don't have money for Cuphead. It's not the way. No, because guess what? Okay, okay. Going off a theme alone, you're going to go against Avatar, X-Men, possibly Metallica, and then Cuphead. That would be the fuck we picked wrong time of this show where I'd say, I'm done here. We should have never done this fucking title. But I listened to some 22-year-old guy who thought it was nostalgic and great. But they did, Bruce. So do you think this should be at Expo or no? It's not going to be at Expo because it's going to look like shit compared to the other stuff. Yeah, but when you released it then, did you just hold it for a month? You release it a month later, two months later, and you say, hey, we're the first game of 2025. Here you go. December 2nd, first game out. Because you're not going to do it at Expo when you're going against those titles. You're not. And if you do, you're stupid. The only thing that might come out at Expo is dual penetration extremes. Well, you just stole my, yeah. you know what you know what else no it is going to be there because they said it's going to be there i know but i'm just pinball exclusive or as we like to call it dual penetration extreme extreme because you're going to get it twice dutch basically dutch is and it's i think it's on its way it's it's been shipped over there over alice's adventures in wonderland with the topper now that they showed yeah yeah they show topper they showed him filming a promo for it so that my My wife was like, as soon as she saw this hot bar, my wife's like, oh, that might be a game I like. Fuck no. No. Fuck no. So within the next, maybe this upcoming week, probably next week at the latest. No, probably this upcoming week. They'll release some kind of promo for it and show it. And then it's going to be at Expo. And I was thinking about the timing of this. This is Dutch's second game. Ten-year anniversary. Yeah. This is Dutch's second game. I knew exactly where we were going with this. Full game. If we're not, you know, I know they have the kit, the Bride of Pinball kit. Yeah, Bride of Pinball. But, no, this is their second full game. Full time. Ten fucking years later. Ten years later. Ten years later. Two games, ten years apart. Exactly ten years. I looked this up. I went to, thank you, Pinball News. I love your show summaries that stay around forever. They have the 2014 Expo. And I'm looking at it to find, like, yep, there it is. There's where Big Lebowski was revealed. And, yeah, it was a cool reveal. They had the two women there. They were nice. I'm sorry. But the thing that caught my eye when I'm looking through all this other stuff, you know what also happened in 2014? You know who also had a seminar at the 2014 Expo? John Papadiuk. Yes, he did. Oh, I was waiting just to... Representing his company, Zidware. Doing what? Where he was talking about development on his trio of upcoming titles. You know what they are? No! What were they, Bob? Magic Girl, Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland, and Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, I know. Oh, my fucking God! Holy shit! Magic Girl, which never worked. Yep. Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland with Deep Root. That never got released. And now Alice in Wonderland. What is the hard-on people have for this guy's designs? I know they're not good. I don't understand. Jesus Christ. I'm on Pinside, and there are people like, I was looking at Avatar and X-Men, but this Alice in Wonderland looks like I'm saving my money for this. Are you guys fucking insane? They're stupid. Stupid is what stupid does. The game didn't even work. No. And it's made by a company that took 10 years. That took 10 years to get everyone their orders for the first game. Have they just changed now? Well, it's a new thing now. It's a new thing now. It's a new era. We figured it out. We're not going to screw people. Yeah, but guess what? That's the stupidity of this fucking era. I don't want to get burned. Like, we just saw some people get burned again. and now we're going to do this all again. I mean, even if you think you're actually going to get your game. Oh, by the way, did I mention it's $12,000? That's what this is going to be. I know. It's nutty. $12,000. But it's going to be packed with toys and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like the original never fucking worked. Yes. So who worked on it there that got it to work? And was better than John Papadiuk. That's what you're saying. Better, obviously. That's what you're saying. You got somebody better than John Papadiuk. Just every game this guy worked on, they want to continue it. I don't understand. It's like, especially in Europe. Europe has this just raging fucking boner for John Papadu games. I don't know what it is. I just, I couldn't believe that when I was looking through this. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, I know. Like, literally, that was one of the seminars. He was representing his company, Zidware. Yep. I saw him when I went out to, the last time I went out to Northwestern Pinball, back in 2014, he and Kathy went out. And we saw his thing where he was showing, you know, some of the pieces of the future game. And I was like, I don't trust him to save my life to give him money because he's just a fucking flake. And nailed it. Well, remember what Python said. You know, Python Anghelo, you know, Sean Papa Dukisik Kahn, man. Of course, he probably called a bunch of people con. Yeah, probably. So he called lots of people lots of things. Yeah. But I couldn't believe that I had to, like, when I saw that, like, holy shit. Okay, there's the subject. It's just, oh, my God. What are you people thinking? I'm going to give him $12,000 and get burned. Hey, it could be an Elton John situation where, like, no one asked for this. There's no way this should be any good, and it's awesome. This could totally happen. Who knows? You could play this thing like, holy shit, Bally Williams has risen from the dead. This represents all the fun and wonder of pinball, blah, blah, blah. But the odds are not in your favor. The odds are not in your favor here. Wait until it's made. Wait until there's a ton of them out there. But you know what odds are in your favor? The odds that we will get to the ball back. It's ball back time, Bruce. Oh, my. Oh, my. Is it full and shocked with goodies? I was hoping for like an hour-long podcast, and I'm looking. We're already like almost an hour and a half. Yes, we are. It just never goes less. It's just, I don't, I'm still about the stupidity part. You know, all these people getting all giddy about a company that has proven history. They're literally coming over themselves. I know. It's like, oh, fuck Avatar. Oh, fuck X-Men. Oh, my God. It's Alice in Adventures in Wonderland. Oh, like, really? And then they'll be the same people four months or a year down the road. I haven't got my game yet. I haven't got my game yet. I haven't got my game. I'm out this much money. What the fuck? Yeah, you're rich anyway, and obviously more money than brains at this point. Welcome to the poor people company, people. All right. Holy fuck. In the ball bag. This is from Zach. Hi, Zach. Zach of the pinball tapes. Remember, we did the stars thing with him. That was a while ago. That was a while ago. Let's see. Hey, Bruce and Ron, or equally the same hosts, how the hang are you? Greetings again from the land of cobbers and diggers, a.k.a. Australia. Australia. Right. I'll just listen to your last episode. It was hilarious as per usual. But the thing that really got my attention was, oh, our Zach talking about his custom ROM for Stern Dracula. Yes. I have been resurrecting a Stern Dracula and have been getting deep into the weeds learning how to fix the boards. From listening to your groans when this game came up, I realized you guys pretty much hate it. Well, Bruce does. And I was interested to hear that Zach seemed to tolerate it because he's made a custom ROM. Yes. That's the only reason why. If he did not have a custom ROM on it, I think he'd be going. And it was one of his, you know, earlier games that he has. I think he does like it. He has a connection to it like you would never give up the spirit either. Do you know what he changed about the rules to make it a better game? No. Doesn't Dracula have some toggle thing that's, like, random or some shit? The flasher, I mean? Like, that kind of thing? Whatever. He changed something to make it not suck. There. I don't know exactly what he changed. We'll get him on in a couple shows, and we'll have him explain. I asked him today, and he didn't want to come on. He said, fuck this. I'm not doing two in a row. I agree with him. I'd love to get my hands on a custom ROM for this baby. If there's any chance Zach wouldn't mind sharing, please let me know. We'll forward that to Zach. Definitely, he'll have no problem. I'm sure Zach has detailed release notes. Yeah. He might. He probably does. I guarantee he does. That's why I laugh. Also, I keep thinking about that spinner mod you talked about a long time ago where the credit window calculates the number of spins. Ah, Dragon Fist. You can enter a spinner champ or something like that. I love the idea of doing that on my beloved stars. Is there any info around on how that can be achieved? I don't know if the 100 can handle it. Yeah, even though mine, the MPU 100 board was modded, and the code that's running on it acts like an MPU 200, so it shows you the high score to date before the third ball. I'm guessing there might be issues with fitting it in there. Either that or Scott just hasn't done it yet. Scott, do it. Make it so. So Scott, listen, so we have someone who wants a spin counter for stars. I do too, actually, so that's two. Let's see. Also, just wanted to say I watched the pinball documentary Shoot Again that you mentioned a couple of episodes ago. I really enjoyed it, and both of you did a great job, especially Ron. Well, you didn't say that. Wow. You just tried to make me feel guilty. Like, oh, fucking Ron got better than I did. I'm hardly in there. You came across as very well-spoken and intelligent, which came as a bit of a shock. A shocker. It's like a two and a... Finally, apologies. Despite Zach's excellent advice, I haven't managed to modify my Interflip Dragon yet, so it scores points instead of free games when achieving special. I did investigate but couldn't quite work out which wire to move. I'll look into that again and let you know if I win. Anywho, keep up the fine work. I sincerely hope that Bruce has delivered an Australian accent when reading this. Good day, mate. And Ron has used his golden pipes to sing. Good day, mate. Good day, mate. Sing. Foster's Australia for beer, mate. That's all I can think of. This is a knife. Who can it be now? There. They're Australian, right? That's fair. Whoa! Cheers, Zach, or Australian Zach, who once interviewed you both on his podcast, The Pinball Tapes. That has been a slack arse and has not made an episode for ages. Wow. Yeah, people always start these things. They do. They start them up. And then they just... Joe C. just started a podcast. Joe C.? Yeah. Joe Cervino of Pinball Degenerates? Yes. I guarantee you that's, like, R-rated. It's got to be. I hope so. It's got to be. I would be disappointed. I would say fail if it was up. There is a fail on it, though. Uh-oh. It's Patreon. Oh, no. Yep. No, wait a minute. If Patreon isn't, you have to pay to listen to it? I don't know. But he's saying only for 50 cents per. I'm like, I don't like doing that at all. I think free is the way to go. Okay. Next, next email from Tom. It's time for another. Give us a link. Good afternoon. Uh, this is Tom of, uh, make it pro fame, you know, make it pro, make it pro, make it pro. Good afternoon. This episode's challenge has a twist. You must, you must, and only make three changes to each game. No more, no less for a bonus point. What would you change in the cabinet back glass art? Hmm. Does that count as one of the changes, or is he just asking what we would change? Maybe one of the three, and if it's part of the back glass. Okay, okay. Twilight Zone. Let's see. Twilight Zone. We have to remove three things. Easy. Clock, gone. Magnets, gone. All magnets. All the magnets, so you don't hold it in any way. Nope. Okay. and you get rid of the upper play field. But instead of that I going to change the gumball machine in the back back glass and put Mr Shatner being scared by the monster Ripping up the plane Okay Change to the art I would remove Rod Serling so we don't have to pay for his likeness and save more money. Because they had to pay a separate thing to show him. Yes, they did. He was a separate license. That was three licenses. It was Viacom for the show, Rod Serling's estate for Rod, and Golden Earring for the song. Judge Dredd. Well, I had a great idea. Somebody gave me a great idea for Judge Dredd. I'm going to make that into an ELO pin. And we use the dead as the ELO. Yeah, the dead world. That would be fucking awesome. So now I need a Judge Dredd sheet. I need a dead world. So get rid of dead world. Just get it totally out. Just a big space there now. Yep. You put Stallone and the back class instead of the commonwealth. Oh, that would be more money. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. You've got to give her three things. So you've got to give her Dead World. That's one. Dead World. You change the music and you put Anthrax in. It's not really pro, but, you know, I feel like it. No, it's got to be physical changes. Memory drop targets. Get rid of those. Okay. And make it a narrow body. That, okay. That's changing the game. that's a little extreme it's extreme and that's why you're making it a pro because it'll be cheaper less wood you could probably get rid of one of the oh maybe that captive ball on the side you never hit anyway yeah I know the meltdown it's just the target now or you can get rid of also the kicker if you really wanted to get the kick out for the missile and what would I change? easy, get rid of the topper not necessary, unnecessary expense or you even just get rid of you put a plunger in there instead of the flipper plunger and you know and you get rid of if you really want to get wacky you get rid of the super game because that was cost so much money in programming another game again just the re-changes I know it's hard on that game because it's just Lord of the Rings perfect game we can't change anything oh god I removed the magnet from the ring yes so it never holds it Go through. Gone. Gone. Upper play field. So you don't have to kick out. You don't have anything like that. Half of the dead. Gone. Gone. Third. You got to keep the Balrog. It's like the one bash tour. No, it is. What your third is, you take away all the nice artwork in the back, and you just put the motto, Lord of the Rings. That's the title. Well, give me a third physical change. Third physical change. The buzzing, the side, the tower. Oh, so it doesn't move anymore. Yeah, it doesn't move at all. Just fix and set. There you go. Yep. We made it pro and cheap, so it's now ready for manufacturing. No, it's made for manufacturing now for Stern, so it's $69.99 instead of $3,200. Yeah, when it was originally. Wow. All right. And we make it alphanumeric. Oh, Jesus. We make the sound mono. Oh, no, it already was mono. Oh. Let's see. Also, I would like to add, since we are now in October, and after going through and standing next to my lovely wife, Lori, spending the last two years fighting and winning her battle with breast cancer. Nice. It is the save the ta-tas. I would. It is save the ta-tas month, and I love this. I would like to ask and encourage all of our amazing female pinball players, collectors, enthusiasts, and all women to please get your mammograms done. Yes. My wife is going next week. A huge reason Laurie was able to beat it was from early detection. Early detection, yes. Thanks again, guys, and keep on tilting. Yes. Tom. Thank you, Tom. Thank you, Tom. Let's see. We will take on your pro challenge any time. Two more. This one's from Dave. Dave Marston of Pentastic Fame. And someone who's been at every pinball expo. Yes, yes. Every one of them. He says, hello, Slammers. Oh, first the subject is RPC on the map. Ooh. And God damn, you must be clairvoyant, Bruce. You'll see when I start reading. Oh, I can't wait. Hello, Slammers. Someday I plan to visit cosmopolitan Rochester, New York. Of course, the RPC would be on my agenda. So I looked at where 349 West Commercial Street is using a well-known online mapping site. It appears that the adjacent railroad track carries passenger trains, including the Amtrak Lakeshore Limited, that I will soon be riding out to Chicago for Pinball Expo. Can you confirm? Yes. It goes past it. About five miles. The station for Rochester is west of the RPC, since we are in East Rochester. It is in downtown Rochester, so you'd have to get off the train, and you only have 15 minutes. You'd have to stay overnight or the next train afterwards and then jump back on. But you're telling me if I took a train, say, from Albany to Rochester, I would literally pass RPC. You'd pass RPC. You'd see it. Wow. You know how you'd see it? Because there's a blood stain on the freaking tracks from yesterday. Well, you know, I like David's advice better. If this is the case, I think Bruce should put up a sign visible to train passengers saying, play pinball here, or similar appropriate wording. There you go. I like that. Do it like the Las Vegas does. It's a huge fucking thing. It's just this brand ball. Yeah. Unfortunately, we're not on that side of the building. We're on the front side of the building instead of the back side. That's where we park our cars. So maybe we can put it on the cars. Unfortunately, yesterday there was a fatality at the Piano Works. Not actually at the Piano Works, but somebody got hit by the train and died on, got hit by the Amtrak. And me and Zach were actually outside loading up his truck. And we didn't know what happened, but when we were loading up the truck, the Amtrak came by. And usually it's going like 45, 50 miles an hour. It's pretty quick because there's only five trains on it. And I'm sitting there going, wait, it's going off the solar. I can see the people in the cars, and I'm waving to them like, hi, guys. And they give you the finger. And then later on, we went back inside after we loaded up his games. He put two games in for York that he's bringing down to sell and to put on for play and for also the tournament. Some wise asset. You know, somebody gave me something to play. Which he has always. That's good. No background. No one knows what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm just going to that one person, that one asshole on fucking Facebook. Yeah, yeah, Zach trying to sell something, and someone was the wise ass to him on Facebook. And doesn't know anything about it. And doesn't know, and it's actually like, I bring a game to play, you know, for free play every year. And he brings a game for the tournament. Yeah. And what have you, and then the thing is, you know, I said, what have you done? And, of course, the guy went totally fucking silent. Love those fucking assholes. So, yeah, yesterday somebody got hit by the train. We were actually outside, and we were on the west side of the building, and the east side of the building is, like, literally an eighth of a mile away, so we wouldn't hear or see anything. But some guy came up to us, like, at 3.30. He's like, yeah, I can barely get here. I'm like, why? He's like, oh, all the cops are outside by West Commercial, and the intersecting road is Maple. And, yeah, we turn on the news. I look on ER Communicates, and there he was. Somebody got hit. And I was like, oh, fuck. Probably a suicide, unfortunately. That's the worst part about it. Because most people, there's a train trestle. You can walk underneath the trestle. And, you know, somebody had some issues. I hope it wasn't just somebody walking. That's a stupid way to walk. Dave continues, I know several pinballers who take the train to Chicago. I hope some will take the train in the opposite direction for a fantastic New Robert Englunds next April. There you go. Thanks for your promotion. Train to the plane. Okay. That train does go from Toronto now, so welcome. Come on down, guys. Train kept rolling all night long. All night long. Let's see. Last one. This is from Michael. It says, good day, Ron and Bruce. And, Zach, if you're there. He's not. He's not. A Surf and Safari has popped up for sale near me at a decent price. I've heard you guys talk favorably about the game over the years. Do you actually like Surf and Safari, or is it more of a joke? It is not a joke. Not a joke. It's not a joke at all. It's a good shooter. It's got some challenges. The doubler is a little weird, you know. Yeah, but who gets the doubler? I've never seen the doubler, ever. I think Raymond got it once at RPC. He was up to, like, $400 million. How do you even get the doubler? I don't know how you spell the letter. Yeah, but you can't just, you know, whatever. It does seem like an above average game for Gottlieb, and it looks like fun. I like the insert matrix tracking your shots and how it's even used as a pseudo dot matrix display, which I totally didn't even notice until I owned it, which is pretty bad. I do find myself concerned by the feature where you can double all the scoring by hitting the left ramp over and over to spell the word double. I don't think it works like that. I don't think you can just keep hitting the ramp and get letters. Don't know. That would be a remaining question. I'm sure you can't do that. I don't like the idea of starting every ball spamming the left ramp. You don't. I'm also a little concerned about the skill shot rewards being wildly uneven. They are. Maybe fix that with a ROM. Yeah. Otherwise, it seems like a winner of a game. It is. Can you talk more about it? It's awesome. Buy it. Buy it. Buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Buy, buy, buy. Market trends are up. I'm not surfing safari, baby. Bucket trains are up. It's my favorite grid game. Yes. I love the sound, the call outs. The sound, the call outs. It's got one of my favorite trans lights. I love completing the grid and hitting the super score, even if it's not worth a ton, but just hitting it over and over and over. Yep. The three million shot, you know, the target you're just trying to backhand. Three million! Three million! Yeah, it's really a great game. Yeah, man. Just buy it. Buy, buy, buy. Let's see. Also, I want to get an EMs, and I'm looking to add one to my collection soon. Do you have any general advice for what to look for when buying an EM? Working. I am an old hand in solid state games, but EMs, not so much. Yeah, same here. I'd imagine you want to make sure every feature and scoring device works. Yes. For all player counts and that everything resets correctly each ball game. Yes. Is there more that I should look for? That sounds about right. About right. That's pretty much. And if you're a newbie like I am, get like a one player. Or get 70s. Liam's 70s. If you get them going, they're pretty good. Just get a Spanish eyes and you'll be very happy. Or go for a hot tip and you'd be better. Oh, God. So a later 70s. Yeah. But that is four players, Bruce. That's three more sets of reels you've got to worry about. And it's better. Let's see. Lastly, a Sonic Cherry Bell is for sale near me. Seems like a good game. I've heard that Sonic Joshua Clay Pills are usually in great condition since they use a version of Diamond Play. Yeah, they use some kind of clear coat. But that the cabinets are often trashed due to the use of particle board. Is this true? Yes, it is totally true. That is true. That's one of the reasons I got the prospector I did because the cabinet was actually not trashed. Yes. Thanks, guys. I've been loving this show as always. Mike. Thank you, Mike. I do have one regret in the past three years. Oh, what in the past? Why specifically three years? Because you sold your Star Trek Next Generation three years ago, and I should have jumped on it. Oh. Regrets. Regrets. I've had a few. After we talked about make it so, you know, Mr. Data. Thank you, Mr. Data. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Data. I wish Mark would bring in – it's funny. Zach keeps on playing Iron Man lately because we have it now at the RPC. I thought he hated it. He does hate it, but he has to really get down to knowing how to play it. There's not much to know on that game. No, it's not. We had a weird one. We had a weird problem with it yesterday. So when we first got it. So are we doing repairs? Yes. Okay, repairs, ladies and gentlemen. We got an Iron Man in, and I'm looking on the monger, and one of the wires is broken on the monger. So I'm like, oh, I'll just re-solders back up, fix it, make it like it was original. So we put it on the floor, no problems. Then when I'm playing it with Zach, all of a sudden the flippers died and went to ball count. And it went right to Zach's ball while I'm playing the game. What the fuck was that? So we pull it apart. We get in a test mode. And when the monger's up, it's doing a trough jam. I'm like, what the fuck's going on here? So we're looking at the schematics. We're looking at the thing. We're like, well, it uses the same ground, so maybe there's something else. I said, Zach, let's try something. He's like, what? I'm going to cut the wire I fixed. Okay. I cut the wire I fixed. Guess what? Problem's gone. So it's got to be the center opto that's bad. You have a little board on there with a center opto, and it must have a short in or a cross, you know, a jump. and I'll have to take apart the monger, which is not going to be fun, but I have done it before with my other one, and figure out what's going on with the opto in there. But the center opto is causing a trough jam. So when I cut the wire, the center opto doesn't work, but the feet still work and the shoulder still works, and we're hunky-dory. The right opto, I mean, not the center. The center is the feet. So that was my cheesy fix on the playfields right now. It fucking sucks. Getaway, we have a bad second switch on the ball trough. We are waiting for parts. It keeps on ending the game on that. So we had a lot of ending games shit this past week at the RPC. And Zach took out Mini Pool, and he took out Kingpin, and brought him, he's bringing him down to York, and he brought in for approval Magic Circle. uh no what's that it's uh ted zale oh another zipper flipper game no it's not zipper flipper oh it's curly yeah but it's got the skill shot you know and not the bounce skill shot it only has a skill shot but it moves on the things up top and it has a gate it goes back to the kick out it has a gate for the side on the on the outer drain you know so yeah we're just going I'm going to call him Zach Zale for now. Zach Zale. Yeah. Counterforce is almost done. I'm going to get a back glass this week at York. So hopefully Counterforce will be on the floor eventually. And we're going to go above 80 at the RPC because Tommy's almost done also. And we should have Little Chief hopefully done by next week. And our back area will be kind of empty. Wow. I know. It'll be very nice. Nineball is at the shop right now because Brian and Jared, two of the owners there, they did the sound boards for the later Stern Electronics games. They are making a new mod, and they're trying it out. They've had it on one game at the RPC, which is the Flight 2000, and they're putting it now on my Nineball, which is Optos. They're making an Opto board. So Flight 2000 also has a chance where you can lose the ball like Nineball does. It's not as bad. So that will be hopefully on the floor soon. We'll have a nine ball, which will make Zach even more crazier. Because Zach hates nine ball because it does usually get lost, like yours does. He always loses on it, too. He does. He sucks at it. Yeah. But it does get lost. You know, you can sometimes lock a ball and saying, going, hello, what's going on? Only had one issue at stop, and it was the usual. Yeah. It blew by the switch. Blew by the switch. That's what happened. It never screws anyone. It just kind of sits there. It gets lost. Yeah, it gets, oh, what's going on here? So hopefully with the Optos, it won't have that problem now. So hopefully if we do get it working, and it works well, it has worked perfect on Flight 2000, then hopefully they'll be selling that new mod for your older sterns. It'll be really cool. Zach brought in Timeline. Ooh, awesome. So hopefully we'll have Timeline at the RBC soon. It's still locked since I played a timeline. And he has a problem where none of the scoring on any of the pop bumpers is working, and the pop bumpers are very slow to return, and all new parts are in them. So we've been trying to work out the mechanical parts, bugs of that. And now he has to work on the electrical parts because none of the scoring works for all three pop bumpers, which is very weird. It's got to be a wire or a ground. Fix it. We are in process, sir. Thank you for asking. Yes. And hopefully BSD, which we've had a customer's game for a long time, we finally figured out what was all wrong with it. It was the opto board underneath. The caps blew up on it and puked all over the old board. Yeah, you said you were going to get a new one. We got a new one, and it works perfect. Yay! The long opto board now works. The customer's like, well, I want you to test it every time. We have not tested it once. I told the guy, come down here and play it. That's the best way to test it. 30 million! I hate that. And that's all for repairs for us. at the RPC. Did you fix anything at... You probably didn't because you went away. Did you order stuff? No. You didn't order anything? Order any? What am I ordering? Uh, Stargazer. Uh, Stars. Stargazer. I haven't even looked at them. Sorry. This is what I have to deal with, folks. I'm sorry. This is what I have to deal with. Do you see the pressure I've fixed? Yeah, it's pressure. I've fixed... I fixed the flickering light on Countdown you bitched about? It was flickering because the actual wires had fallen off the log and were just kind of dancing around. So that's why it would keep flickering. I hate when it flickers. But yes, since then it's now Ron's Countdown. I do miss it a little bit, but I wish, I truly wish I did buy your Countdown. Yeah, I should have bought it. You offered to me first and I was like, I had one, I don't need it again. And I wish Mark would bring his in because he has one at home. I've got it working pretty good for him. He's got his working a little better. I'd love to see that DRPC. I'd be playing that all the fucking time. Mark, if you're listening, fucking bring in. Bring it in so we can just pick it against Zach every fucking time. Now you're getting it. Now you get it. That's the ticket. Yeah, that's the ticket. So that's all the repairs for me. Ron has none since he was slacking in Robert Englunds. Hey, I said I was slacking in Robert Englunds. I soldered a wire. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Thank you. I hate soldering, so there you go. And I hung up a banner. Wow. My own John Banner. I'm still standing. He's pointing at Godzilla in the banner. It's great. And what else did I do? Oh, I upgraded Deadpool, Star Wars, and Jurassic Park code. Yeah, because they all came out. Yeah, for the speaker lighting stuff. Yes. Yeah. Which I'm probably not going to. The only one that interests me is getting it on Rush, just because it has expression lights anyway, and I think it would kind of complete the whole lighting setup there. The other ones, it's just eh. Eh. Eh. Eh. Well, we're almost to two hours. Yep. It's about time to end it. I love when I give Ron a fucking. See what happens when we don't talk for two weeks? You know, brother, I don't know how I'm going to pay $60 million or $70. What the hell is it, dude? I'm in trouble. What am I going to do, dude? You know, I can save money at Boeing by taking out things. Yeah. Oh, man. I miss Mueller. He was entertaining. He was entertaining. He was stupid, you know. Yeah, he was. Well, he cheated people out of all that money, and he's never going to go to jail. So how stupid is he? That's the American way. That's the American way. Yeah. I did wear my Yankee jacket the whole time there. And surprisingly saw at least five other people wearing Yankee caps. So the Yankees are just popular around there. And they won last night, which is great. Yes, they did. And where did the Orioles end up? The Orioles? The Orioles are out of it, baby. All the teams I wanted out of the first round were out of it. It was awesome. Orioles lost. Houston lost. That was the best one. And the Atlanta lost. So that was like, woo-hoo. The Atlanta. Yes. The Atlantas. Yeah, the Atlantas. The Atlanteans. The Atlanteans. They're from Atlanta. And then the Mets. And then the Mets. You know, you would love to see another Subway series. No. No. Yes. Yes. No. No one at the network wants to see that because that would mean ratings shit. Last time it was pretty good. No, it wasn't. The ratings were the lowest. No, the lowest were, it was Houston versus somebody else. Yeah, the Yankees missed. They were low. They want Yankees-Dodgers is what they want. Of course, we always want that. That's the ultimate race. Judge versus Otani. Otani, yeah, that would be fucking awesome. They'd be doing the... And the Jets are playing right now. Oh, God, the Jets. They're in London. They just had to follow up you. Why do they keep trying that? People don't care there. Just making it hard on the players having to go to all these countries where they don't give a shit. And the Jets are losing 17-0 because we fucking suck. Yes, that's one thing about Bruce, since I've known him. He is hardcore Jets. Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. 63-yard pick six from fucking... I fucking bleed green and fucking hate it. Yeah, and you've never seen him win a Super Bowl. No, but they've won one, so that's all that matters to me. Even though I wasn't alive for it. Nope, because we still got the trophy. That's all that fucking matters. We still got the trophy. Wait a sec. Wait a sec. We still got the fucking trophy. There's a lot of other teams that have never gotten a trophy. Win. Okay. Win-win. Win-win. God, you don't know myself. You know who's the winner? The Slamtail Podcast, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks. Thanks for joining us. We're a winner because of you listeners out there. Yes. and thanks for listening to episode 237 it's plug time let's see we can be reached at slam till podcast at gmail.com that's slam till pat yeah slam till podcast that was a boss that I sat down that's right there no I got caught in between that was really bad that was really bad hit your head but again it's slam till podcast at gmail.com check out our website www.slam Untilpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner. Watch the recently completed Stomp. You can watch all the action from that wonderful event. Hello to everyone in the Clusterbuck. Hi, Pinball Princess. Hi, Zach. Fun with Bonas. Everybody. Thanks to everyone in Robert Englunds. It was a fun time. Dun-dun-dun. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun. Oh, yeah, and I saw the River Thames. Was it dead bodies in it? Because, you know, I think Benny Hill had it. When the show would start, it would say Thames because that was a production company. I was like, I need to find where that is. So I was happy. Did you enjoy that drink of water you just took there, Bruce? It was coffee. It was coffee. I should have known it was coffee. Coffee. That's why I haven't yawned yet. Ah, yes, that's true. You haven't yawned. I have not yawned at all. Coffee. I want three or four of them. I want a whole lot of them. Okay, Pete Puma. About three or four. See, these are the kind of call-outs we need, Stern. Yes. That's the call-outs they should have used in Looney Tunes, and they didn't. Or use those in X-Men. Oh, God. Oh, God. Live Storm. Live Iron Man. Oh, God. I'm going to give you some love, Stan Ocean. A whole lot of love. Oh, yes. I love it. Make it happen, Stern. Make it so. Make it so, number one. Okay. You got a name, Bruce? I do. Okay. Until next time, which will probably be after Expo. So have a fun, safe trip to where we're traveling to Expo. Get your ta-tas checked, all you lovely women out there. it is breast breasty checky one month breast cancer awareness mom yes breasty checker I don't think that's what it's called yeah I'm sure you do I do man it makes it so hard to end the show I love it uh huh you got the name okay thanks everybody yes thank you very much until next time say goodbye Bruce goodbye Stephen Haberman Can you fly? On my mind On my mind We can go there If you try On my mind On my mind Guaranteed to keep you alive The Meteor! Level Zero! Clusterfuck! Swishy Kai! Oh, my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my. The Royal Rumble at RPC. The Royal Rumble at RPC. Okay. And you don't talk about how bad the Carl Weathers is going to be possibly. I don't talk about it? Positivity is all about this podcast. Bullshit. It's December. It's going to fucking snow. Oh, it's not. It'll snow until January in our place. Yeah, okay. Keep telling yourself that. I like how it's called fall when it's like right before. It's right before Christmas, bro. It is fall. I was like, excuse me. It's fall. Yeah, okay. Is it fall? It's before Christmas. No, it's not before Christmas. It's literally like a week before Christmas. No, it's two weeks before Christmas. Oh, I'm sorry. Clearly not winter yet. It's not winter yet. The winter does not officially start until December 21st. And we all know it can't snow before winter officially starts. It can snow anytime it wants. It can snow in September. It has snowed in September in Rochester.