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Episode 131 – Missing Tickets

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jul 25, 2019
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TL;DR

Ron reports on Pintastic attendance, tournament play, and game observations; Bruce discusses bar maintenance and missing tickets.

Summary

Ron and Bruce discuss their experiences at Pintastic (a major pinball expo), including Ron's VIP badge experience, tournament results in the Silver Ball Rumble, a podcasters panel, and various game observations including Steve Ritchie's new Black Knight Sword of Rage machine. They also cover maintenance and repair work at the Silver Ball Saloon, technical issues with several games, and upcoming content. The episode is heavily anecdotal with tangential discussions about Pinberg logistics, ELO trivia, and Bruce's difficulty finding his Pinberg tickets.

Key Claims

  • Ron qualified for the Silver Ball Rumble tournament on his third ticket, getting the high qualifying score on Hocus Pocus.

    high confidence · Ron describing his tournament experience at Pintastic

  • Brian O'Neill beat Ron 3-2 in the first round of the Silver Ball Rumble, then went to the finals where he lost to Steve Bowden.

    high confidence · Ron recounting tournament bracket details

  • Steve Bowden won the Silver Ball Rumble tournament, beating Brian O'Neill 3-0 in the finals and defeating multiple opponents without losing a game except to O'Neill in an earlier round.

    high confidence · Ron describing tournament results

  • Steve Ritchie's new Black Knight Sword of Rage premium machine plays like Black Knight 2000 with repetitive upper playfield trapping mechanics rather than Black Knight original-style gameplay.

    high confidence · Ron's direct experience playing the game at Pintastic

  • Jersey Jack Pinball added two compression springs to the Dialed In trapdoor flap to manage excessive coil strength, suggesting they were aware of the over-powering issue.

    high confidence · Ron describing his repair investigation of a ripped trapdoor flap

  • Catacomb is earning 'okay' revenue at the Silver Ball Saloon since installation, with new players still learning the rules.

    high confidence · Bruce describing bar earnings and game performance

  • New code for Dialed In will be released soon (by the time the episode airs).

    medium confidence · Ron mentioning upcoming code release

  • Pinberg (the expo) is moving to a new location nearly three hours away from Ron's location, up from the previous one hour and 40 minutes away.

    high confidence · Ron discussing future Pinberg logistics and venue impact

  • Stern has five games with speech capability: Split Second, Flight 2000, Catacomb, Freefall, Lightning, and Orbiter 1.

Notable Quotes

  • “I can't even find my tickets from Pinberg... I think it came in a text, I remember.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~00:06:00 — Establishes the running joke of the episode title 'Missing Tickets' about Bruce's disorganization

  • “It's Black Knight 2000... trap the ball on the left, hit it up in the upper play field with the right flipper, over and over and over.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~00:33:00 — Critical assessment of Steve Ritchie's new game design, suggesting repetitive mechanics

  • “If a flipper's dead, most people will say, sir, the flipper's dead... But when it comes to switches, your average customer will not notice that... If it ain't noticed, it ain't broke.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~01:10:00 — Revealing operator philosophy on maintenance priorities based on customer awareness

  • “You get 100% working games at the Silver Ball Saloon.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~01:13:00 — Promotional statement about the bar's commitment to game maintenance standards

  • “Jersey Jack knew that it's too strong... Guess how many springs they have on there? They have two. They basically doubled up on the compression spring.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~00:50:00 — Evidence of manufacturer design compromise on Dialed In trapdoor mechanism

Entities

PintasticeventRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSilver Ball SaloonvenueSteve RitchiepersonBlack Knight Sword of RagegameSteve BowdenpersonBrian O'Neillperson

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Pintastic expo held with significant attendance; featured podcasters panel, tournament (Silver Ball Rumble, Trash Talker Invitational), game streaming, and industry presence

    high · Detailed event coverage including VIP badges, tournament structure, seminars, and participant numbers

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Silver Ball Rumble tournament at Pintastic completed with Steve Bowden as winner; Ron qualified on third ticket but lost in first round to Brian O'Neill

    high · Ron's detailed tournament recap including bracket progression and game-by-game results

  • ?

    product_concern: Black Knight Sword of Rage exhibits repetitive upper playfield trap-and-shoot mechanics similar to Black Knight 2000 rather than original Black Knight design; Ron suggests code fixes using anti-trap mechanics

    high · Ron's direct gameplay observation: 'trap the ball on the left, hit it up in the upper play field with the right flipper, over and over and over'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Ron proposes using Dialed In-style flipper weakening or animation-triggered flail mechanic to combat trapping behavior on Black Knight Sword of Rage

    medium · Ron's detailed gameplay suggestion including mechanical and code-based solutions

  • ?

    code_update: New code for Dialed In being released soon, expected by episode air date

    medium · Ron stating: 'There's going to be new code coming out. It'll probably be released by the time this airs'

Transcript

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0:00
Do you like the taste of cold beer? Damn straight. Yeah, yeah. Are you drunk right now? Um... Well, you wouldn't be if you were drinking The Edge. That's what beer drinkers drink when they're not drunk. And you don't have to be 21 to buy The Edge, because The Edge is 100% non-alcoholic. Whoa, cool. Yeah, yeah. You don't have to be 21. Beavis? we gotta get some of that stuff yeah yeah yeah and we're gonna get some beer it's really gonna happen coming to you from beautiful upstate new york this is the slam tilt podcast show about all things pinball i'm your host ron hallett here with my co-host bruce nightingale hi there folks how are we doing today i can't believe i got you yeah i know it's so hard to get you on the show now it very much is what is this attempt number three yes three again yeah which was almost four you got car almost was four yes i did i had my ac fixed I just called Ron like, I just got a fix. We're going. So I had to run home. You know, when it's like 100 degrees out, the one thing you probably don't want to break in your car is the AC. Of course, it broke. Oh, he's yawning already. Yes. I'm trying to get more of my Pinberg stuff together while we're talking. Pinberg? This is our pre-Pinberg spectacular and post-Pintastic spectacular at this point.
1:48
Pintastic, Bruce. It's fantastic. Where were you? What happened? I was working because I fired my bartender. The one that was going to fill in for you. Cover for me. Yes.
2:02
So everyone else got the, you guys got the easygoing and smooth listening Jeff Teolis over the sarcastic wise ass Bruce Nightingale. We got a lot of Jeff Teolis. Yes. That's what I heard. Yeah. So fantastic. which was, man, how many, like a month ago now, it seems? It wasn't that long ago, but I had fun. It was cool. It was good. We had the, let's see, how do I want to approach this? Oh, my. Well, before it even happened, I had a couple of visitors. Mm-hmm. I had Dr. and Mrs. Penn. Yes. Mm-hmm. They visited Level Zero. Ooh. Ah. On Wednesday, they gave me the largest Hershey bar. Oh, my. I think it's something you can just, you can only buy, like, at Hershey. Yeah. I can actually buy them. It's, like, five pounds. Pounds. It's bigger than my laptop, Bruce. Yeah, well, that's pretty big, big boy. And the giant Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Mm-hmm. And they gave me a shirt. Nice. I got my own shirt. It's cool. It's got my name on the back. It's got George Takei on the front. Or George Takei. Oh, my. And Gene Simmons on the back. That's great. That's funny. So, Mrs. Penn, you've got to get Bruce's shirt. Yeah, I'm just getting boned. Pinberg, you've got to get Bruce's shirt. I don't know what you're going to come up with for that. But, I don't know, Nightingale's a lot of letters. That'd be hard to fit all that in the back.

medium confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Stern speech boards during bar maintenance conversation

  • Ron will be streaming a rare classic Stern game that is rarer than Stargazer and Dragon Fist in the near future.

    medium confidence · Ron teasing an upcoming streaming project

    • Jeff Teolisperson
    Dialed Ingame
    Catacombgame
    Pinball Profileproduct
    Head to Headproduct
    Stephanie (Steph)person
    Mrs. Pennperson
    Christopher Franchiperson
    Zach Sharpeperson
    Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
    Stern Pinballcompany
    Silver Ball Rumbleevent
    Trash Talker Invitationalevent
    Pinball Players Podcastproduct
    Level Zerovenue
    Wonkagame
    Oktoberfestgame
    ?

    product_concern: Dialed In trapdoor flap ripping and hitting habit rail; Jersey Jack implemented double compression springs as partial mitigation but issue persists

    high · Ron's detailed repair investigation revealing double spring solution and continued durability issues

  • ?

    operational_signal: Operators often prioritize fixes only for customer-visible failures; switches and non-obvious issues go unrepaired unless noticed by players

    high · Bruce's detailed explanation of operator mindset: 'If it ain't noticed, it ain't broke'

  • ?

    venue_signal: Pintastic relocation from ~1hr 40min from Ron's area to ~3 hours away will reduce his attendance; hotel bookings already made for next year

    high · Ron discussing venue move impact and early hotel room reservation strategy

  • ?

    content_signal: Multiple pinball podcasts represented at Pintastic; Head to Head recorded episode 98 with Ron and other podcasters; mentioned Silver Ball Saloon in recent episode

    high · Ron's discussion of podcasters panel and Head to Head episode 98 recording

  • ?

    machine_intel: Ron teasing upcoming stream of a rare classic Stern game rarer than Stargazer and Dragon Fist; specific title not yet revealed

    medium · Ron's statement: 'Sometime in the near future, I will be streaming a game that is rarer... A classic Stern game that is rarer than Stargazer, rarer than Dragon Fist'

  • ?

    product_launch: TX Sector restoration in progress (Zach working on it); expected delivery in couple weeks; Meteor already completed; potential bar rotation planned

    high · Bruce describing restoration pipeline: 'TX Sector, hopefully, will be done in a couple weeks'

  • ?

    community_signal: Pinball media presence growing with multiple podcast hosts collaborating at events; podcasters panel featured at major expos

    high · Four-person podcasters panel (Ron, Jeff Teolis, Mrs. Penn, Jeff Parsons) with subsequent Head to Head collaboration at Pintastic

    • 3:39
    Oh. Oh, that's so bad. I'm trying to find my hotel reservation or anything, and I don't remember what I put under. That's how good I am. Very organized, Bruce. Good job. God, I'm just so... I can't even find my tickets from Pinberg. Well, are they electronic? So doesn't it, like, not matter? Yeah, but I can't even find, like, what it came under. Yeah. Hmm. I think it came in a text, I remember. A text? You should have got an email. I know, but I think I got a text also. When was that? When did we buy the tickets? A long time ago. No shit. of Galaxy fucking far, far away. I'm very helpful. Yeah, you are. God. But Mrs. Pinn and Dr. Pinn, we did some streaming. Mm-hmm, yes. The mobile rig worked very well. I think I have the kinks worked out with the mobile rig. Nice. And they had shirts on that said, Dr. Pinn's said level zero on it. Like in every letter was a font from a different game. Nice. And then Mrs. Penn had a shirt that had my face on. Oh, my. That was weird. That's very weird. So, thank you, Mrs. and Dr. Penn. So, that was Wednesday. So, Friday, me and my dad, we make it up there, and we check in at the same time as, well, Dr. and Mrs. Penn again. And I got my VIP badge. I've never had one of these. Like, I could go anywhere. Anywhere you want. You got it. Anywhere you need. You got it. Okay, Roy. Anything you want. You got it. Are you singing that because your hero, like, co-wrote the song? Yes. Okay. And your hero being, of course, Jeff Flynn of ELO. Which we'll talk about. We talked about it once, right, at Dilemma. Now I'm going to really talk about it. Oh. How much ELO can we talk about? As much as I want. I, luckily, the good thing is, I can go against the rules of Franchi. What rule are you going against? I'm not talking about pinball. Going back to pinball. Okay, good. So, I've got the VIP badge. The VIP badge allowed me access to, like, the super room where all the super high-end games are or something. Mm-hmm. Guess what room I never went in. The super high, wackity-wackity room. It just never happened. I just didn't get around to it. What can I say? Fail. Played in the Silver Ball Rumble tournament. Nice. And someone might have to look this up for me. I don't know if this is true, but up until that tournament, I believe me, Eric Russell, CMY, and Jerry Bernard of OCPC were the only players to qualify every year that they've had it. What name doesn't belong there? My name doesn't belong there. Of course not. So we have... Thanks. So we have a situation where I play... And this is the card-based qualifying deal where it's your full entry, your card of five games. So you have to be consistent, which I'm usually not good at. But for whatever reason, the Sanctums games always treat me well. And I was able to get in on my third ticket.
    7:04
    Basically because I got the high qualifying score on Hocus Pocus, of all things. Lucky you. Mm-hmm. And then I proceeded to lose in the first round. Mm, not good. Not good. I lost to, I think, Brian O'Neill. I believe that was his name, which I found out later. He had just won the Free Gold Watch Tournament in San Francisco. He's from San Francisco, and he was in Massachusetts for this tournament. The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of America. And the power of the circuit points. Yes, sirree.
    7:42
    And, yeah, I mean, he beat the likes of Raymond Davidson, et cetera, and I'm playing him in the first round. Zoinks. Yeah, zoinks. It's three out of five. First game, he picks Break Shot, which I win. So then he picks Black Knight Sword of Rage. I get slaughtered. Then I picked Hocus Pocus, and I got like 114K, which would have been like a high qualifying score, and I lost. That hurt. Then I picked Dragon Fist, and I won that. So the final game, he picks X-Files. Oh, gosh. And let's just say he had a lot more success hitting the file cabinet than I did.
    8:26
    Yeah. Hit the filing cabinet. Yeah, I got my ass handed to me. So congrats. So not in the money, how it works again.
    8:36
    You had to bring that up. Yeah, I was not in the money, Bruce. So now after the edit, I double-checked. It was Brian O'Neill who beat me. Mm-hmm. And he went all the way to the finals where he lost to Steve Bowden. Of course. Bummel bonus. Hi, Steve. He was on fire. El fuego. He was en fuego. He was kicking ass all the way to the finals.
    9:04
    And if the damn page would load and show me the finals bracket, I could say how much ass he was kicking. Oh, my. Well, he got a bye because he was one of the top qualifiers. Yeah, he won like 3-1, 3-1, beating Timmy.
    9:19
    3-0 against Bowen. Oh, wow. And then 3-0 against Brian Onia. Holy shit, he did kick ass. Damn. You give him the most problems. Well, no. What about the other guy? Okay, he beat me 3-2. Then he beat Alberto Santana, who was disappointed. I think he wanted to play me so we could have another matchup I'm sure I would lose. He beat Alberto 3-1.
    9:46
    Then he beat Eric Stone 3-2. Then he beat Jeff Chiolis 3-1. So I'm at least as good as Eric Stone, according to the list. There you go. We all know that's not true, but don't worry about it. Hey.
    10:00
    So that wasn't a deal. I wasn't just there for pleasure. I was there for business, Bruce. Yes, you were. Because I was part of a podcaster's panel.
    10:10
    It was me, Jeff Teolos of Pinball Profile, Mrs. Pin of Mrs. Pin's Pinball Podcast, and Jeff Parsons of the Pinball Players Podcast.
    10:20
    It's funny. I told them that you weren't coming, and they're like, Oh, that might actually work out because I don't think we have space at the table for a fifth person. They would have kicked that Frenchie guy out. Oh, yeah. No, he wasn't there. I thought he was on the panel. No, he was in the crowd. He was not in the panel. No, that was later. We'll get to that. But there was, I mean, questions asked.
    10:45
    It's available right now. If you go to YouTube and just look up Pentastic, find their channel, and it's right on there. I don't know why you would want to watch it, but it's there. You can see the ten people in the audience. No one left, so we weren't boring enough that people were leaving. So to me, that's a win. That's a win-win. That is a win-win, and I enjoyed it. It was interesting. I mean, you have to listen to it. I really, there's not much more I could say about it without, I mean, just listen to it if you care. You can say more. Just listen to it if you care. We give podcaster tips. We give stories. It was a fun time. Fireball was handed out. Did you drink the fireball? Of course I didn't. I don't drink alcohol. Yes, you do. Oh, yeah. Only at the Silver Ball Saloon do I drink alcohol. That's my rule. There you go. That's how much I like the Silver Ball Saloon.
    11:40
    Oh, we hear the dog. Gigi. Hi, Gigi. Yep, Gigi's in the background. He's all excited. Come on. Bruce is here. Yay. Yeah. Mommy's here, actually. My white cat. so it's food time she went outside and pooped thank you i'm sure our podcast listeners love to hear that the dog pooped of course so so that was the podcasters panel that was a fun time sounds fun fun for all and then later that night that was friday night the first the first night after all the seminars were over we kind of got the seminar room to ourselves and we had like an impromptu clusterfuck as head-to-head actually recorded their episode, which I think was episode 98, I think? Maybe. Yeah, something like that. So it's all of us, the same four, plus Christopher Franchi, plus Stephanie, Steph, the pinball princess of the Riptide Pinball Podcast, and that again, if you want to hear that, just listen to their podcast, head-to-head, Episode 98. They already got past the... They hit the milestone.
    12:54
    Congratulations, guys. Congrats on 100 episodes. Listen to, like, the last eight minutes or so. It's like a best of. Mmm. It's quite hilarious. It's great. Yep. We miss you, Ryan C. Yes, we do. You rock. But he came back. Yep, he came back for the 100th episode. And they played their little bracket game where, like, the best Williams... Williams, what did they come up with? I think it ended up being between Dracula and something else. Yeah, terrible. Well, they were doing it from a tournament perspective. I know. It still was terrible. I don't like Dracula in a tournament. Oh, Dracula rules. Yeah, in a tournament. Well, why not?
    13:33
    You know. Just because of the bugginess? Yeah, it's very buggy. And they were ignoring the bugginess. You have to go by what is out there now. That's the problem with their whole scenario that they did. Sorry, guys. Okay. Okay, there is a slightly less buggy version that I'm running on mine, just to say. I know, but still. And then we're talking about, you know, your version of Next Generation, which is not really out there to too many people. And then we're talking about a getaway with no buggy version. There is none. Yeah, there is. No, it's not proven yet. It's proven. It's running on mine. I've yet to have a bug on it. Okay. Come on. There are Soarin' versions of these games that work fine. Okay. The bugs were all basically the – what are the bugs in Getaway? There's the – so the Secret Mania bug. So if you do Secret Mania, it forgets how many locks you have. There's the starting multiball while you're in multiball, which I actually got to witness that. And just the basic, I would say, Dwight Sullivan game forgetting locks syndrome that is fixed.
    14:41
    Let's see. What else do we have? Then Saturday night, there was the Trash Talker. They did the Trash Talker Invitational again.
    14:50
    I was on Team Podcast. And how did you do Team Podcast? We were like, they split us into two teams. But we were like part of the same team. I know Steph went undefeated. She finished first in all her games. Wow. I finished third in my group. But the important thing is who I beat. I beat Joe Lemire. Oh, there you go. Thus proving we are superior to head-to-head.
    15:19
    It made some of the tournaments I have been at at Rock Fantasy seem spacious by comparison. Wow. Yeah, literally no, no room. And, man, there was these dollars you could pay for, and you just put them on the glass so people can't see what the hell they're doing. It was hilarious. Like the entire room broke out in a Joe Sucks chant. Yikes. Yeah, it was brutal. It was quite brutal.
    15:49
    So what else do I have here? Oh, my dad and Steve Ritchie are best buddies. That's good. I have that as a note. While we were doing the trash talker, my father and Steve Ritchie were like just sitting together talking for like two hours. Oh, wow, that's cool. They're best buds now. I also got to play Steve Ritchie's new game, the premium version. Yes, and? On order, right?
    16:15
    Nope, guess not. Okay, here's the deal. Okay. When I saw that upper play field, I was like hoping, I hope it's more Black Knight than Black Knight 2000.
    16:25
    And? It's Black Knight 2000. Excellent. It's trap the ball on the left, hit it up in the upper play field with the right flipper, over and over and over. At least when I played it. I don't know. Maybe there could be some code stuff done to help that out. I had an idea. Here you go. What do you think? What do you think of this idea? The game will be able to tell if you're trapping. Do the dialed in thing.
    16:53
    Like it kills your flipper. Oh, there you go. Or like, you know, not kills it, but, you know, like, weakens it. And you can even do, like, say the Black Knight's flail starts spinning, and you have to hit the flail to stop it from killing your flipper.
    17:09
    Just like in Dialed In where you have to hit the shot to stop the attack. It's beautiful. Then you can, of course, lose the ball because you went after the flail. But then they could do, like, if you don't do that, they could do an animation where he throws the flail at you, and that's killing the flipper.
    17:24
    Gotcha. What do you think? I think that's a cool idea. Yeah, the big people say, oh, he copied it. You can't even think of something on your own. I say that. You got to say it. What do you think? And he could, I mean, he's the lightning. No way. Like, you know, stop trapping up, you loser. I mean, there's so much you could do there.
    17:42
    That's just my opinion. Okay. I mean, I think if you could somehow fix that issue, I mean, it looks great. It shoots great. I mean, but it's Steve Ritchie. Of course it's going to shoot great. The artwork is awesome. Best art on a Steve Ritchie game since No Fear. I agree with that. And, yeah, I got to play Wonka. And? I still can't make an opinion because the flippers were not strong enough to hit shit. Of course not. Which, I mean, come on. Enough. It's just so painful.
    18:18
    What else? I played Oktoberfest. Played some long Oktoberfest plays. really, really long, dude. It was really, really long. In a four-person game we played, there was one side ramp hit, which was more than I thought there was going to be. So, but I got to experience the new code where, like, when the left ramp comes down, and it increases the power on the right flipper,
    18:46
    and it definitely does. It's very, very apparent. When that thing comes down, you shoot the right flipper, there is no issues getting it up there. I never have a problem getting it up there.
    18:57
    When have you played Oktoberfest? Getting it up. Okay. Welcome back, Bruce. Oh, it's always good to be back, sir. I still can't find anything in my paperwork. What does your title for your email say? I'm still bothered by it. I'm doing multitasking. Uh-oh. Bruce is not going to be able to go to Pinborough because he can't find his tickets. Yes. Which I think they could find your tickets there. I think that ticket, I've got to find my hotel room which one i did it in you did it in a hotel room what i did my hotel reservations i can't find them either so i'm trying to go by around then good gravy okay uh well the the subject line for the replay fx stuff is your receipt for replay fx 2019 it'll say that for the show and for pinberg this is the same thing and it's from show clicks that's what i wanted that's Show clicks. C-L-I-X. Yeah, I got 2016 on this one, so it's not this email. I've got to go to my other email.
    19:58
    It's a new game, folks. Help Bruce find his Pinberg tickets. I'm trying to think if anything else happened to Pentastic. Any new stuff I played.
    20:08
    I think that was about it. It was a fun time. It was cool having the VIP pass, even though I didn't really use the full power of the VIP pass. Oh, I didn't do the free dinner thing either. I just thought of that. Oh, wow. Man, I failed big time. But it was a fun show. I was like, fantastic. It's a shame that it's going to move. Like, it was the closest show, well, other than the Saratoga show, it was the closest show near me. It was like, you know, an hour and 40 minutes max to get there.
    20:40
    But now it's going to be almost three hours. It kind of sucks. It will be. For me, it's like seven then. That sucks even more. Well, I got my hotel for them already.
    20:50
    The hotel rooms are available. They might be sold out already. I don't know. Supposedly, there's less rooms in this hotel. So they'll sell out quicker. So I wanted to get that in there. I had good timing. I caught the post from Gabe, the organizer, like an hour after he made it, saying the room block is now available. It's like, ooh, okay.
    21:11
    Finally, yeah, Bruce? I'm still looking. I think we have a title already. Help Bruce find his tickets.
    21:18
    So that was fantastic. And ways to improve Black Knight Sword of Rage. A little note there. Mm-hmm. What else has happened?
    21:28
    Did I mention how I fixed Dialed In? No. It's beyond help. Dialed In is awesome. There's going to be new code coming out. It'll probably be released by the time this airs. Great. Yes. Great.
    21:48
    Dialed in code. Coming soon. With sure next to you. My trapdoor flap that ripped off. Replaced it, the whole top assembly. It wasn't that hard to take out. But what I, I was incorrect. My theory was that like the ramp flap, the trapdoor must have came up just as a ball was coming. coming and it hit like the edge and maybe snapped it off that was my theory that not actually what I think happened Because when I put it all back together and I did a trapdoor test I noticed something interesting There's a habit trail that sits right above that. Okay. Guess what the flap hits every time. The rabbit trail, of course.
    22:33
    Just like it does on certain other ones games too, like Medial Madness. The troll flaps hit him. So I'm like, how can I make this at least hit it softer? So I'm thinking like, you know, maybe I'll put a stiffer spring in there.
    22:48
    Nothing? I said stiffer spring. So I put a stiffer spring in there, and I take that part, I take that apart, and I find something interesting.
    22:58
    Jersey Jack knew that it's too strong. Oh, by the way, there's no adjustment for the trapdoor coil strength in the adjustments, if you're wondering, at least that I could find. Guess how many springs they have on there? They have two.
    23:13
    They basically doubled up on the compression spring for the Mac. So they knew it's strong or too strong. And that was their solution.
    23:24
    So I just bent them to make it a little stiffer. No, nothing? No, nothing. Okay. I made it so it doesn't come off quite as fast. So hopefully that will give it more life before it snaps off again. And that was my repair. Oh, the other thing is, while I was streaming with Mrs. and Dr. Penn, after we were done with the Stargazer game, it basically died. Like, we wanted to play one more game, the start button didn't work, and then I rebooted it, and it won't boot. Oh, cute. And it's got a Weebly board in it. It's weird. I haven't even looked at it yet. Wow. And like I said, it's a Weebly board, so I don't really understand what's going on with that. That's really weird. That is really weird.
    24:14
    Let's see. What else do I have? Well, since I mentioned that, do you have any tech stuff? No. No? I've been dealing with stuff at the bar, not big stuff. I have to try to figure out one thing. The soundboard on Catacomb is not saying all the words properly. I thought I had it fixed, and then it got screwed up again. So other than that, Catacomb is working like a charm. People are starting to understand the rules. Starting. So is it earning well? It's earning okay. Not bad for a new game that people are just like, oh, you know, is it really this? And so it's working. And it does talk a lot. It does talk a lot. More than people know. I mean, it tells you, you know, hit the left flipper to do the hit the right flipper to do this.
    25:04
    So it does talk. So you just got to make sure it's talking a lot to the people. If not, I might take it back out just to try to get that board fixed, if it even can be fixed. Some of the chips are obsolete. Weebly sells the sound boards. No, they do not. They sell the sound board, not the speech board.
    25:22
    So there's an actual separate, is it like a mini board? Yes. All right, somebody needs to make that. Yes, I would love to see Weebly do it, because I know he can. Do it. We need speech boards for the, here's a good question. How many Stern games have speech? Split second.
    25:41
    I was just thinking this the other day. I don't have any. Flight 2000. Catacomb. Freefall. And I don't know about Lightning. Yes, definitely. It talks a lot. Hala, whatever the hell it says. Yes, so then there you go. Is that it? I think that's five. I think that's all there is. Well, there's one more, and it talks a lot, too.
    26:05
    Don't know, then. Orbiter 1. Oh, shit. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. It's got a whole thing. I know.
    26:14
    Not an Orberon One fan? No. You think really I am? No. Well, speaking of rare games. Yeah. Sometime in the near future, I will be streaming a game that is rarer. A Stern game. An old classic Stern. Mm-hmm. A classic Stern game that is rarer than Stargazer, rarer than Dragon Fist. Mm-hmm. Mm. Nice. So just think about that. Bruce probably already knows what it is, but, yeah, we'll let that hang there. We'll let that hang there. Let's see. What else do I got here?
    26:52
    So, really, everything's working great? Yeah, actually, the bar and stuff's working great. What else? I had to replace displays on Catacombs. So now I have LED displays in it. So I have extra gas displays for now back to Cheetah when I finally get back to that. Zach finished up Meteor for me.
    27:13
    He has TX Sector, and he's going through a lot of stuff on that. And hopefully we'll get that in a couple weeks, and I can bring that to the bar and go for more. TX, TX, TX, TX, TX. Yeah. Sorry, yawning again like always. Yes, yawning as always. So TX Sector, hopefully, will be done in a couple weeks. Pinberg coming up, so that's going to be a big thing.
    27:37
    Zach's having a tournament in the end of August. I have one more tech thing, and this has to do with – this happened in my league. I show up for league, and Twilight Zone's off. Like, what's the problem with Twilight Zone? There's four switches that don't work.
    27:53
    So we ended up – we played league, and then when we're done, I was like, you know, let me look at it. And I asked, like, are all the switches that are out in the same row or column? And I'm told no. Like, okay. Are they optos? No. Okay. So we go into test mode, and there's no manual, so I download it on my phone. And I check the switches. The ones that are not working, guess what they all have in common?
    28:26
    They're in the same row. Of course. So it was a row problem. So it was a row. So, again, don't always trust what people tell you. Test it yourself. That's one of my – that's why I wanted to bring that up. That's one of the rules of repair. Yeah, do your own diagnostics before trusting anyone else's diagnostics. So I just went through – it's like it's probably a wire break, so let's just start going through everything in that row. And sure enough, got to the kicker, the scoop, and it was a little – like it wasn't just hanging there obvious-like. It was kind of still in the area of the lug, but it wasn't on. It, like, come off. Just broke off, yeah. It happens. I don't even consider that a repair anymore in my book. Oh, okay. Thanks, Bruce. So he soldered that back on. It happens all the time. So that's not a repair, Ron. So technically you didn't actually fix the game. Shit. So what you're saying, Bruce, is when the game doesn't work and I do something and make it work, that's not a repair. No, it's not. because guess what most games on locations most people will not notice that a switch or two or three or four are out so if people don't notice it it's not broke you're coming up with some good bruce's and cerebrus it's the truth though that's actually what operators think if i don't hear it's broken what am i going to do not touch it so okay so if you fix something in the game you didn't necessarily make a repair no okay not when it comes to if most people do not notice it like If a flipper's dead, most people will say, sir, the flipper's dead. Sir, my coin jammed in the coin slot. Do they say it like that? They kind of do.
    30:04
    But when it comes to switches, your average customer will not notice that. Okay. It's the truth. So if it ain't noticed, it ain't broke. You got it. In an operator's mind. All right. Is that in your mind, Bruce? No. I'm just saying that's most operators. That's how they think. But you won't get that at the Silver Ball Saloon. No. You get 100% working games at the Silver Ball Saloon. Well, I don't even know about it because then somebody will come to me and say, oh, by the way, this is broken, and I'll go, okay, and I will then go working on it right away.
    30:38
    Usually it's buttons, switches. So if you want to play the best in working games, you need to go to the Silver Ball Saloon. And where is that, Bruce? 135 West Commercial Street in East Rochester, New York. And thanks to Head to Head again. You didn't hear this part, but like the last eight minutes when they were playing like the best of, one of the clips they mentioned Silver Ball Saloon. That's good. Thank you, guys. Now, I have a dilemma. After TX Sector, what do I bring to the bar? Do I go bring – I'm going to start bringing back some oldies. Oh, okay. So you're going to do maybe a poll, just like the poll you were supposed to put up for the game we played that you never put up? I did. No, you didn't. I put that up. I did. I deleted it right afterwards because it wasn't going in my favor. What? It wasn't going in my favor, so I deleted it. No, you didn't. It was never up there. Oh, I deleted it. No, you didn't. Oh, okay. For those who remember our last episode, we had the – If you believe what you believe. What game is the bigger turd? And Bruce was supposed to put a poll up when the episode was released, and of course he didn't. But we all know what the biggest turd was. I don't even remember what the games were. What were they? I don't know. I deleted the post. Oh, Jesus. How can we have this cool new thing that we came up with if you don't even remember what the games are? We stole it. Well, yeah, we stole it, but we made it instead of, like, good games. We just made them, like, argue about what's the bigger turd. I can't remember. Let's go back and look.
    32:05
    This is embarrassing. It's been so long. Yeah, this is the problem. This is the problem. I literally can't remember what the games were. Was one of them, like, Quicksilver or something? Yeah, Quicksilver and something else. I forget. We were laughing about that. Yeah, because someone had got Quicksilver. I think we were just mentioning the ugly green color and the offensive art.
    32:26
    We failed, and it's so far after the fact. Now there's no use putting the poll up, but let's just say I won. No. I'd say you didn't. I won. Wasn't it Roadshow? No, it wasn't Roadshow. It wasn't Roadshow.
    32:39
    You've got listeners shouting it out now. You idiots. You don't even know. You don't even know what you do on your own show.
    32:48
    Are they asleep, too? No, that's what I'm doing half the time. Man. Yeah, I have it right here. Facebook poll. Okay, but you didn't write down what the poll was, so you did really good, too. You were supposed to put the poll up when the episode... I did put the poll up, and I was losing, so I deleted it. No, you didn't. How do you know? I see the log of what's posted. Remember, I'm the co-admin on the page. No, you don't. Oh, gee. Okay.
    33:15
    All right. You've modified the page, so somehow I'm an admin, but I don't see stuff. Okay. See? You're finally catching on. Yeah, I'm catching on. Let's move on. I still like the game. I think we should do it in the future, but next time you need to actually put the poll up. Or I'll just leave it to you then. No. I have to do everything? Everything? I'm just the personality. I'm the pretty face here. You're just the personality. I'm the pretty face. Okay. I'm like, it's like the Wizard of Oz. I have the big melon head up in the sky, and you're the guy behind the curtain doing all the pulling and everything.
    33:53
    The melon head behind, okay. I kind of got that. So you're the big head on the screen. You got it, see? And I'm the actual poor guy, like, behind the curtain. Yep. All right. See? I do make you look good, so that is kind of what I do. See? So what do I say? Who's right again? Sure, Bruce. You're always right. There's a new league in our area. What? Yeah. I mentioned this before. It's Thursdays. And it's another location in Troy, Troy, New York. And we get to play Deadpool, Ghostbusters, Star Wars, and Striker Extreme. Which I actually was kind of liking the music on Striker Extreme for some reason. Boy. But we started Thursdays, 7 p.m., and I could tell that I really like Deadpool, but I think it plays too long. At least this one plays too long. Last week, that was our first game in my foursome, and I was on it so long, they moved some of the other groups around, just because I was kind of holding everything up. Yowzers. That's how long it was playing. but I like it. I don't know if I could own it though if it plays that long.
    35:15
    I heard you sold a game this week or last week. We'll get to that. Okay. You don't even let me finish my story. Nope, I just go into the next segment.
    35:27
    But you made that. I have the power of the edit. Then it was Ghostbusters which it's Ghostbusters and Star Wars is Star Wars. striker extreme now here's here's a good trivia for you bruce because you might know this striker extreme when you turn off extra balls if you get an extra ball or what would have been extra ball how many points do you get 2.5 million so usually it's 2.5 million or five i've seen as high as 10 like i think t3 is 10 and so is uh sopranos guess what it is on striker extreme it ain't 2.5 goal it is 35 million holy shit yeah when the jackpots are like 2 million apiece in the supers four wow there yeah that was in my my foursome i had the lead and and the guy that was playing he got the extra ball and all of a sudden i see this 35 million come up on the screen for like one shot and i'm like what the fuck happened and everyone's telling me like oh yeah like when extra balls are off the extra balls like 35 million like are you serious that's kind of on balance so stern uh we need a code update for psychory stream please what about we need a code update for ghostbusters no no no no we we need a code update on game of thrones first i know because he fucked it up even worse wow bruce he did let's make targaryen now the most powerful mode in the fucking game. Alright, so, yeah.
    37:08
    Stern came out with a new update. Because they're selling 100 pinball machines. So that's why they're doing it. They're selling more. What are they selling? Pros? Pros. So they're selling more pros. So they came out with an update, which at the beginning of the stream, this was on Deadflip, Jack Danger's stream, one of the, I think at the very beginning of the stream, Dwight Sullivan said they are working on code update for Ghostbusters. Supposedly it's going to be big. It's going to be even bigger than the one on Game of Thrones.
    37:43
    Yeah, and we see what he did to the Game of Thrones. Wow, you really are not liking it. Not at all. I've seen it. I've seen the things. People are posting scores in Targaryen now.
    37:53
    See, I don't understand any of it. It's over my head, so I have to take your word for it. So Targaryen is the new what? I mean, is it just overpowered? Is it like Hell's Bells in ACDC? Targaryen is the new Greyjoy, almost. Because you get the add-a-ball, you get extra stuff. It's just way... I don't understand him. He cannot make a good rule set anymore. Maybe he's going to make issues.
    38:20
    The views expressed by Bruce Nightingale are not necessarily those of Ron Hallett. But all right. No, he made Star Wars. Star Wars is great.
    38:31
    Maybe because he was spending so much time remaking Star Wars code for Home Edition. Oh, yeah, that's right. Home Edition? What is that? Fucking turds-o-rama. Fucking let's make more turds. Wow. You were just a lot of hate. A lot of hate today, Bruce. Yes.
    38:50
    Let the hate throw through you. Yeah, they had that. And then Stern, they had the announcement that a new game was going to be revealed at the San Diego Comic-Con. So everyone's thinking, you know, hey, we're going to get a great game. Which was last week. So everyone, for whatever reason, thought it was going to be, you know, Keith Elwin's new game, which is most probably going to be Jurassic Park. Yeah. So everyone's getting psyched for Jurassic Park. They send Jack Danger from Deadflip over there. All the way out to California. It's like, but like the Wednesday night before, for I think VIPs or something, they revealed what it was. Yeah. And I saw the post from actually from Steve Bowden. Hi, Steve. Phone bonus. Hi, Steve. Wednesday night, he posted it like, here's the new game, Star Wars Home Edition.
    39:43
    I don't know if I have as much hate as Pinsai did for like, Stern is... But, I mean, it was a definite troll by Stern. I mean, you could say, like, this game isn't really for the hardcore pinheads. It's like, yeah, but your hype train was 100% for the hardcore pinheads. And then you trolled them. Somewhere, I think, Timmy came up with that. The pricing is just terrible, too. Oh, really? What's wrong with it? Well, number one, it's basically Spider-Man Home Edition again with some modifications. Yes. And it has an LCD screen. Yeah. It has an LCD screen. Yep. Actually looks like a fairly playable game. I wouldn't be surprised if I see this in a tournament someday. Yep. But... What's the price? $4,500. For an extra $1,000, you get a full commercial quality game instead of a Home 2 pin or whatever. I think the lowest price you can advertise or something is like $3,900 or something like that. Second, Stern, you keep on missing the mark with one thing. make the old Stern Electronics games in that cabinet. That's when you'll sell games. So they keep missing the target. The target. Con. Isn't that the rumor that they're going to be doing that? It's the rumor, but I haven't heard anything fully yet. But that's what they need to do. That's when that format might do well for them. When they release Quicksilver as like the Beatles Yellow Submarine Edition or something. Yeah. Then you'll have it. There you go, and you'll be happy. I finished shopping out the Sea Witch for the Saratoga show. I'm going to be bringing it there. And I'm playing it, and it's like, yeah, I like Beatles better. I definitely like Beatles better.
    41:29
    So we just lost a listener. She's very unhappy with us right now. Oh, the pinball princess? You got it. She knows how I feel. I mean, it's like they're different. Like Sea Witch is basically a drop target game. the loop is really just eh I mean you hit it every once in a while maybe yeah but like you're not gonna repeat it no but like with the Beatles you get I mean I love the Beatles like they added the extra spinner mhm you get the repeatable loop shot you got the magnet on top to stop it so it can go into the pop-up-ers you have the little spinning disc which I don't mind I know a lot of people hate that I fucking hate that thing mhm okay and then they have the whole super jackpot the whole new stuff they added where they put the target behind the bank. Yep, I agree. That's great. And it's great. I think it looks great. It plays great. I love it. And, yeah, you can get it for $6,700.
    42:23
    Yeah, I'm guessing they didn't sell all of them. Yeah. What was it originally? $8,000. So, yeah, you can get them below $6,700. Sell your Sea Witch. Put the money towards that. It's not my Sea Witch. I'll give that something else. He has my Metallica. Exactly. Give him that. Well, I already told him, like, after the Saratoga show, I'm bringing your sea witch back, so you need to make room for it. He has a spare bedroom, and I already told him, no one's there. Just get rid of the bed. Boom. Exactly. Boom. Done. See? See, Bruce, tell him. Like, I'm having trouble convincing him. Dad, it's so easy. If you have a spare room and it's filled with crap, get rid of the crap, put the good stuff in there, get a play and use, and enjoy it. See? Done. There you go.
    43:09
    I think I might have convinced him. Boom shakalaka! Because that way you can have Metallica and Sea Witch at your house. And something else. We'll give you something else too, Dad. Maybe something else if you make room for it. But the reason I'm going to do it that way is because there's a game taking Sea Witch's place. Ooh, what's that? Another pickup. Did you pick up another stripper again and tired of the bedpost and everything like that? Ron, we told you about that. You're not supposed to be doing that.
    43:37
    Edit! Where did that come from? Oh, it just came out of nowhere. Oh, man, this is what you could have heard, folks, at the Fantastic Podcasters panel if he was there. So be thankful he wasn't there. Oh, God. No, Bruce. I have completed the Steve Kirk collection.
    43:59
    No, you have not. If you don't count Gamitron. I don't count. You're missing two. How am I missing two? You're missing two. Okay. Number one, the game I picked up was Meteor. So that's number one. So I now have Meteor, Stars, and Nineball, the Steve Kirk Stern Trilogy. Fail. Okay. Why is it a fail? Well, you still have two more games. No, I don't. Yes, you do. Gammatron, as you said, was one. Yeah but Gammatron is just narrow Flight 2000 Or as we call it now Flight 2000 is actually Wide Gamma Tron Yes And He got fired during it It doesn't count. It counts because it plays like it. That's why I enjoy it so much. Yeah, Bruce loves Swords of Fury. He loves Lion Man. Lion Man! I don't like it for that. I like it for the shots. But Steve Kerr got fired. Who knows how much of that play field is his? You know the center post is his. So there's what? Done? It has a center post. Done. It's perfect. It's great. Yep. I don't really like Swords of Fury, Bruce, so. Well, but still, you don't have to, until you get them all. Okay, I have the. You got to catch them all like Pokemon, like Steve Batton would tell you right now. Got to catch them all. Isn't it Pokemon? Not Pokeman. Pokemon. Okay.
    45:21
    It's maybe lost in translation. I have the Steve Kirk Stern Trilogy then. How's that? I'll go with that one. Okay. and I got it from Kuehler of the world-famous Rock Fantasy. You bought it from me. I sold it to you. You got good money for it. Yeah, I picked it up from his patio at his house, and it was Saturday, and last Saturday it was like 100 degrees. I was wearing my black socks with sandals on all at the same time. You know how I like to do that.
    45:56
    Chose off all my kids' tattoos on my belly. Don't listen to him, folks. Yes, Mr. Keeler did help me.
    46:05
    He was, I got there at like 8. I left my house at like 6 in the morning because I wanted to get there as early as possible because it was just obscenely hot.
    46:16
    And we got out of there, and it's nice. It's got the, for those that don't know, Meteor was the highest production game that Olstern did. Yes, it was. And basically, during the production run, they changed the targets, the meteor targets on top. The earlier meteors, they looked like the 1-2-3 targets without the, I don't know what you call it, the lip on top. The lip on top, yes. And then later ones, they changed them to the lip on top. And all the repro targets have the lip on top. These have all the old style, all original meteor targets. Yep. So that's pretty cool. That is cool. Playfield is good. The soundboard needs help. The sounds are not right. You can buy them. That you can buy. Well, I actually have a spare soundboard, but I want to just recap it and see. I might even swap some ribbon cables, too, because that was actually the issue of my big game where it had weird sound. It's actually the ribbon cables. It actually wasn't the soundboard. Hey, I got something. What? I ordered parts from Marco two weeks ago. Uh-huh. And I got a note from somebody who packed my package. Oh, my.
    47:35
    Okay, continue. Crystal sent me a nice, how you doing, Bruce? Oh. That was very cool. I love her. She's a sweetheart. That's right. Crystal Gemnick of the Riptide Pinball Podcast. It works for Marco. So she packed your parts. She packed my parts. And what did you buy?
    47:53
    Balls. Really? You got balls for Marco? Yes. And she put them in the package. She put my balls in the package. Stop.
    48:05
    Stop. So did they get – do you really got – I thought they were expensive. No, they went down in price again now. Not as much, but they're a little cheaper now. But I needed them. Wow. Okay. Let's see. Offensive content. We'll check that off. There we go. Make the time stamp. Check the time stamp. Did you find your tickets? Not yet. But I know I'm in because I went to the – I just got to find my hotel room. That's the biggest thing now. You could just call them like, just double-checking my reservation. I don't know which one I did. You don't know which hotel you did? Yes. There was one of the ones that they have for – one of the – Was it one of the ones for the show ones they advertised? So it's probably the Drury. I tried the Drury. I looked up Drury, and I couldn't find it. Just call them and ask like, hey, I want to confirm my reservation. Do you have your confirmation number? Fuck no. I think I need to look it up with your name and the dates. I have to. I'll have to look. It was either the jewelry. Hopefully it was the jewelry because I want my free food. Yeah. Yeah, I hear that about there. That's where I'm staying. I don't know. I've got to find it. I've got to find my thing. I don't know where it is. Oh, my God. Sorry. I'll have to look at my computer. Unfortunately, I'm not on my computer today. I'm with my wife's. Mm-hmm. The one that's mine is at the bar.
    49:19
    So let's see. in news we did some of we basically did some of the news already the pin was revealed yeah no pin so not a fan no not at all why not it's it's it's for a different market why would you it's not gonna sell so you don't think you're gonna price it's too high okay bruce says it's not gonna sell not gonna sell it has to be lower if they want to be in the home market all right where does it where does it have to be a home buyer is not going to spend $40, let's just say $4,200 if they see a nicer one with bigger display and everything else and more eye-popping for another $1,000 to $1,200 to $1,500.
    50:01
    It's cheaper. Let's just think about this. It's cheaper the jump between the PIN 2 and the Pro from the Pro to the Premium.
    50:13
    Hello! The Bruce has spoken. What do you feel? Hey, they price it where they want it. We'll see if it sells. If it doesn't sell, then obviously the people have spoken, and they'll need to be cheaper with it. How did the last one sell? I heard they sold like shit. Thank you. Well, we'll see how this one sells. And they were cheaper.
    50:34
    Well, this is Star Wars, you know, so. By the way, is the topper available yet? I think it's only available for the pin, too. So the R2-D2 topper is finally available, but it only works with the pin, too. Wouldn't that be funny? Oh, there'd be some pissed off people there.
    50:54
    R2-D2, what are you doing on that machine? We got Countdown to Jurassic Park. So what do you think? Is it going to be Jurassic Park or Jurassic World? I don't know the name of it, but it's probably going to be Jurassic World. So you think it's the new movies and not the old ones? It's got to be the new movies. So I'm licensing for both, or maybe the first one. What do you mean, first one? They have two of the new series. Okay. What's his name from Guardians of the Galaxy? Yeah, that guy. They have two of them. So either they got the original license or maybe they're doing both. You know how many Jurassic Park movies I've seen?
    51:32
    Zero. Correct. Ron does not like movies. That's not true. I'm surprised I haven't seen at least Jurassic Park because, you know, I love Godzilla movies. Jeff Goldblum. I like big lizards. And the guy from Seinfeld. See, if you said the guy from Seinfeld, that wouldn't help me either because I never watch that show. Oh, my fucking God. But I know what Jeff Goldblum is. All right. Let's see. Game of Thrones update. Ghostbusters code update. Not.
    52:02
    Wow. Pinball profile. Pintastic podcast with a plethora of pinball personalities. This is from this week at pinball.com, by the way. Hi, Jeff. And, oh, my name's on here. No, stop it. Ron Hallett. Is it spelled right or wrong? On here it's spelled right. That's the funny thing. If you watch the podcaster's panel on Pentastic's YouTube channel, you'll notice that my name is spelled wrong. That's Ron's pet peeve. Oh, mine's a pet peeve, too. Everyone spells my name wrong. Do they forget the G? No. They sometimes put a K in front.
    52:36
    Bruce Knightengale? What? Knightengale. Oh, as in, like, you are the knight. Or they put in E-N instead of I-N. Okay. So, yeah. We just had the Southern Fright Gaming Expo just occurred, which I have to honestly say I didn't really follow any of it. I don't know what happened. If they had a tournament, I don't know what. I apologize.
    53:00
    I'm sorry. Oh, no? Fail. Oh, fail. Okay, so I think tonight is when the new dialed-in code is on. Actually, it might be streaming right now. It is. I'm excited. I wonder how long do you think until it's ready for download?
    53:16
    Four weeks from now. Oh, come on. Four weeks? It's going to take a month? Yeah, probably. Really? Well, you see how long it takes Jersey Jack to say it's going to be out in a couple weeks. I'm going to show you this game for Willy Wonka, and then two weeks later I'll be shipping it, and it's four months. So what the hell? I'm just trying to narrow it down a little bit. It should be a couple days. Did it take four? It didn't take four months. To ship? Yes, it did. So March to July. Yes. Yeah, I guess you're right. How you doing? And Mr. and Mrs. Pindus got one today. Mrs. and Dr. Penn. Oh, sorry. Let's call him Mr. and Mrs. I don't know. He's passing gas a lot with that thing. I don't know if it's really a doctorate. He could be a proctologist. I don't know.
    54:02
    Yeah, they sent a picture. They got their Willy Wonka LE. I told them they're banned from Hershey now. why are they banned from Hershey? They live in Hershey. But they bought a Willy Wonka machine. That's the competition. Oh, yes. So the Wonka bars are competing with Hershey bars. You got it. I got you.
    54:22
    Guns N' Roses pinball. Yeah, Slash said it's coming out. Yeah, that's really not a secret anymore. Thank you, Slash. It hasn't been a secret for a while. It hasn't been a secret for a while, but basically an interview Slash just came out and said, yep, Guns N' Roses pinball coming.
    54:36
    Jersey Jack, baby. So what do you think, man? So we know that's probably going to be a wide body. Yes, it is. I mean, it's another retread. They did Pirates and now this. I wonder if Last Action Hero will be next. That would be kind of cool. I like the crane. Hey, you know what we're going to have, though? What? I think I know what Steve Ritchie's next game is going to be. Oh, God. What's his next game going to be? I already know it. Did you see what video came out? They did a trailer for Top Gun 2. what a game to make after just based it off of f14 tomcat i thought you were going to say because the trailer for um the new mr rogers movie came out so i figured maybe that no no mr rogers is not on the highway to the danger zone hi neighbor so no mr rogers no but i could see him doing top gun too or maybe here we go here's how you make it even better gold wings too gold wings oh no no no no no no but here's the thing about that is it's already been confirmed by kenny loggins that danger zone will be in the new movie of course it will be so there you go guess what we put that as a soundtrack i was looking this up it had one of the most successful soundtracks in history it went like multi-time platinum The 20 best-selling movie soundtracks of all time. Number 20. Oh, yeah. Evita. No, that will not make a pinball machine. Next. No, it will not. Number 19. The Jazz Singer. Love on my cock. Ain't no big surprise. What?
    56:18
    Is that the original? Oh, it can't be the original. It's got to be the Neil Diamond one. It is, of course. It's the Neil Diamond one. Give me a drink and I'll buy you some lies.
    56:29
    Everywhere around the world, they're coming to America. Wait a minute. That's from that, right? Yes, it is. Okay. City of Angels, number 18, with Uninvited by Alanis Morissette.
    56:43
    No, thank you. The Big Chill. That was just using 60 songs galore. It was. It was using 60 songs. and it's the fifth biggest Motown album of all time, for a side note.
    56:58
    16. It is a pinball machine. It is? 16 is a pinball machine. It was made by Sega. I will bet you $10 you'll not guess it. Space Jam. You got it. Holy shit, are you $10? Here you go. I just tried to think of the poppiest thing, like the one with Michael Jordan in it. It's all Space Jam.
    57:18
    15. Flash Dance. Flashdash the pin I don't think that works You got a maniac mode He's a maniac There you go Here we go This could be a movie maybe For number 13 The Little Mermaid Well it was a movie You can definitely The one for the kitties This one possibly could be for the girls For the women out there And for some guys Grease for number 11 Greece. Okay.
    57:53
    Oh, brother, where art thou? Wow. I would never think that. No. Number nine. Top Gun. Highway to the danger zone.
    58:09
    Now, what was the Berlin song? Oh, Take My Breath Away. Take my breath away. Okay. Number nine. Number eight. Right above it. Footloose.
    58:21
    Oh, Kenny Loggins is on fire. It's El Fuego. As far as the pinball machine, though, no. This could be another pinball machine that we could think about, and it could tie in with the new stuff that just came out, The Lion King from 1994. Hmm, okay. That could be a pinball machine, possibly.
    58:40
    Titanic was made by Stern. It was? At the Redemption Machine. Oh. That's number six. Would it make a pinball machine, though? I mean, how would you do that? You could re-theme a Pirates, like the original Pirates, and the ship is the Titanic, and it crashes. And it's an iceberg right ahead. Yeah. And you have to, like, save all the passengers or something. Yeah, instead of collecting pirates, you save the passengers.
    59:07
    Number five, Dirty Dancing. Again, that's all, like, 60s music. Okay. Now, this one, I would like to see a movie. it's like a box of chocolates you can have it's Forrest Gump isn't it again yeah but again it's all like just licensed 60s music man there's a lot of soundtracks with the 60s music in it that's three so far Purple Rain was number three number two Saturday Night Fever you only have to get really from one person from one group so you take a Disco Fever and re-theme it because that's what it was supposed to be anyway And number one, all-time sales.
    59:52
    And the Bodyguard. That's the number one soundtrack of all time based off of RIA certified units. So, no, that's not going to be a pinball machine. It's somewhat related to pinball, though, in that the person who actually wrote that song is Dolly Parton, and she did have her own game. Yes, she did. There you go. That was an interesting little list there. So not too many of those would really make a pinball thief. So you're thinking Steve Ritchie, Top Gun 2. Top Gun 2, you'd call it F-22 Raptor or F-35 Raptor. Okay. Listen to me, Steve. Tim, tell Steve. Yeah, Timmer, Timmer, tell Steve he needs to make Top Gun 2. Yep.
    60:39
    Highway to the danger zone. what else is on your list there is the would we or would we not buy that for a specific item which would that be that came up on pin side i had two people comment to me saying oh by the way you gotta get this yeah so somebody posted on pin side a quicksilver for forty five hundred dollars and bruce takes a look at it and goes two seconds two seconds it's like you know this looks familiar Please explain, Bruce. So Ron messages me, and like 10, 15 minutes later after Ron messaged me, somebody else messages me saying, hey, you know, there's something on the pencil you're going to want. Ron posts the thing saying, there's a Quicksilver on there for $4,500, and he sends me the link. I'm looking at the pictures. I'm going, I saw this a week ago. It was on one of the people I know who sells games in Pennsylvania, and he sold it for $1,400.
    61:41
    Same exact game. Same exact pictures of the play field being exactly worn the same way. So what does Bruce do? I don't know. What does Bruce do? Being a sarcastic wiseass that I am, post on Pinside saying, nice markup.
    61:56
    Well, no, you also posted pictures of the original listing. Of course I did. Yeah. And you got actual upvotes on Pinside. Congrats. See? You've been upvoted on Pinside. I'm a hero. That was quite funny. Oh, and don't mention, don't forget the part where it doesn't work either. Yes, it doesn't work at all. They didn't even bother to fix it before trying to sell it. It's like literally bought a broken game and then did nothing to it. And trying to flip it. Yeah, trying to flip it. Yeah. I mean, normally we wouldn't get up. But, I mean, that's one hell of a markup. Yeah, that's a thick move. So, Bruce. Yes. Stop.
    62:38
    Yes, we need to talk about this. When do you want to do this and where? Oh, where? I have an option? Yeah, you do. Well, but there's Stomp and there's Stomp West. I know. So you want it at your place? Easier than me. Well, here's the thing, Bruce. Okay. Let's hear your thing. Talk to me, Ron. Ron, I'm here for you. I want to listen to your ideas and thoughts.
    63:01
    You're scaring me, dude. Okay. So I think in a previous episode I mentioned how we had a 518. That's our area code. knockout event. Like during the week.
    63:12
    Yes, sir. Yeah. What does like deliverance music have to do with that? 518 is kind of like a little bit like deliverance. So we're like we're deliverance here is what you're saying. You're insulting my area. Yeah. Okay. Actually, I believe the top rated like radio station for forever here is like a country station. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
    63:32
    What was I saying? Okay. So the idea was always to have a larger scale knockout tournament. and the same guy, Matt, who ran the one I had during the week would run this and he was looking at September 14th. So it couldn't be that date. So I don't know how close to that date we want to do stop. I was thinking like the weekend. Hold on. I had it in my calendar. I actually have a – I use the company calendar. You have a calendar. Yeah, you can't find emails. Yep. September 21st. Saturday, September 21st. It would actually be the beginning of fall. So it would be consecutive weekends. Yeah, that would be bad. So then I was thinking maybe the 28th. I don't think there's anything on IFPA for either date. So let me see. IFPA.
    64:21
    Pinball. Because that way at least there's a break. Break. Break shot calendar. Because I don't want to get too close to Zax either. Well, when is Zax? The last weekend in August. So you're actually getting further away That's what I wanted There you go, see Ding, fries are done Would you like an apple pie with that Wow, Bruce is on fire Yes Nothing, nothing, nothing So we can go to 28th Or to 21st Okay, I'll put that in tomorrow He'll put that in tomorrow So stop The original Stomp is back and better than ever, and it will be September 28th. At the Silver Bowl Saloon or at your house? My house. Okay. 28th, your house. Perfect. Your Stomp West. That's whenever. You can bring Gamitron and Swords of Fury, and we can have all five Steve Kirk games. So now you're admitting that it is a Steve Kirk game. Well, no. If you're going to call it that. You did. You just did. Yeah, because you keep calling it that. You cannot edit that out. You called it win. I'm going to be like the guy on Australian rugby. Puts the fingers down at the score.
    65:39
    Put the fingers down. He goes down. He gets that little white suit guy, and he goes, he points down. Okay, that's Australian rules football. That's not rugby. It's rugby. It's not rugby. Rugby is a completely different thing. Fucking rugby.
    65:54
    Okay, sure. Australian rules football, same as rugby. Gotcha. Yep. Good, finally. Okay, so then we have, speaking of shows, the Saratoga show, which will be the weekend after Pinnberg. So it's actually going to be the August 9th and 10th. Which I cannot be there. I can be there on 9th, I think, but not the 10th. Because the 10th is even a more important day.
    66:25
    It's a birthday party for Bruce. The big 5-0. How does it feel? Nope, not up to your number yet. See, I'm not as old as Ron, guys. See? That's a good thing.
    66:39
    No, you are older than me. But if I recall, you're two years older than me. Yeah, but it doesn't act like that, so that's the best thing about it. I more energetic and enjoyable and more fun Okay you got me there You got me there yes I still have more hair though That not easy That not hard It just you know that what nature gave me Mm-hmm. Did you ever look at your dad and say, like, why couldn't I have got his hair? No, I got my uncle's. Uncle Nightingale. I am an uncle to two kids. These poor kids out there.
    67:13
    I actually made fun of him when I went down to ELO and we stayed at my sister-in-law's house and my one nephew just got his license last year and he's got a bmw must be nice have money uh so uh i had to move his car and what is uh what what is uncle bruce doing his car drive like a maniac nope farts in it and makes a video of it and uh his sister records the video of me farting in his car and rolling up the windows and leaving the stink in there his exact word back to the video is no you are one classy dude that's all i gotta say classy freddie blast so yes august 9th and 10th we the saratoga show and it'll be my birthday party i'm gonna try to go at the 9th because i want to try to sell two of my games that i still have not fucking sold to my games. Yep. Come one, come all, play Ron's, play Ron Senior's Sea Witch. Play a hot tip and buy it. Play a blackjack and buy it. Oh, did you see what, I saw today somebody on eBay, not eBay, sorry, somebody on Facebook posted a rare, super rare game today for sale. Oh, was it the EM blackjack? Yes, it was. They wanted like $2,200 or something for it? Yes, they did $2,300 and they were on crack because it's nice. Not that nice. All right. So two should we buy that and answer is no on both. No.
    68:39
    So you went to see ELO. Yeah, we were supposed to record, what, Saturday? And then Bruce didn't show up and he fell asleep. I was out like a light. I had a long week. So how was ELO? Did they let you down or no? No, they did not let me down. Okay. I actually got a picture of my wife next to a Devil's. We were standing right behind the banners for the three Devils Stanley Cup champions. And, of course, my wife's a Rangers fan and just hating every minute of it. Just like you're a Rangers fan and you've been hating every minute of it. If you had to hear the Devils, the Devils win the Cup. The Devils win the Cup. Sorry.
    69:17
    Yeah. Matau. That's all I got to say. At once. Yeah. Another 50 years. 50 more years. Sorry. And congratulations to Mariano Rivera, who was just inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Unanimous induction. It was Mike Messina also. Yeah, Mike Messina got in.
    69:39
    But, hey, you only got 25 more years, I tell my wife. Whatever. All right. One interesting little factoid I learned on WWF's Royal Rumble, a game I like. Do you know how you get the add-a-ball during multi-ball? Luck? Luck. No, that is not the correct answer. Okay. It is very unique, and I'm wondering if our listeners know, or you know, of any of the games that do this.
    70:12
    Zach used to own one, so he knew this. We're playing Royal Rumble, and he gets into multi-ball, and he is not trapping up at all. But usually he would trap up at least a little. And I noticed this, like, yeah, that's kind of weird. if you don't trap, I believe he said for 30 seconds in multi-ball, you will get an add-a-ball. That's cool. Yeah. Do you know any other games that do that? No, I've never even heard of that rule, so that's actually new to me. I think that would be a great rule for some newer games. Bring it back. Especially like for tournaments and stuff, like instead of this, you know, you do this to get the add-a-ball. No, to get the add-a-ball, you literally have to like not trap the ball. Flail. Yeah, well, Bruce loves it because that's his style, but yeah. It is. I just, that's very, I never knew that. I've never heard of any other games that do that.
    71:04
    Man, we've gone through a lot of stuff here. Yeah, because we don't record as often. Oh, so we get a lot more, you get your money's worth at us now. Yeah, you get your money's worth. I think one of the last things I got here, well, actually, let's see what's in the ball bag. We're going to go to the mail ball bag. We got a lot in the ball bag. Okay. We have Robert Byers sent us a picture of the outfits he wanted to see us in at the Podcaster panel. Yeah, I should probably clear this up. The thing we were going to do at the Podcaster panel, me and Bruce were both going to dress up in suits because we were going to be classy. Pretty classy. Yeah. Since Bruce wasn't there, I didn't bother bringing my suit. Fair. But he has a picture from Dumb and Dumber.
    71:50
    Oh, they're like in their outfits with the top hats. Yes. Yep. Robert Byers also has a name for our contest. Which is? You know, the one that you forgot to put the Facebook thing up for. Okay, so did he post the games? No, here's the title.
    72:07
    Drop a deuce on the top 100. I like that. So, you know, I'm going to keep this email around. So if we do that again, that's what we're going to call it. I'm going to drop a deuce. Yep. There was an interesting picture. Did you see the Quicksilver prototype game? Yes, the white one. Yes. Yeah, the white one. Now, the only thing that I thought was weird about it. Was the apron? Well, no. The apron is what I would expect. It's an Ali apron. It's a game before, yeah. Yeah, it's the last conventional size because a bunch of Y-Bys were before. So that makes sense. It's in a Quicksilver cabinet. I would actually think it would be in another game's cabinet. Yeah.
    72:50
    Because usually they did that. Yeah, but the... Yeah, you're probably right. And the cabinet looks ridiculously good. Yeah, I might have been right. I mean, it looks like almost brand new.
    73:01
    Do you notice other things? Like I got some close-up pictures of like the one flipper is wrong. Yeah. It's got a bally flipper, one bally flipper, one stern flipper. But you can get the stern flippers now from Pinball Live. I got mine. Yeah. I'm going to put them on Dragon Fist. I'm going to put them on the fist. You're welcome, Pinheads. We'd have all this if it wasn't for us. You wouldn't have $5,000 Quicksilvers if it wasn't for us. Yeah, don't mention that part.
    73:30
    So what are we going to like next? I know what I'm going to like now. Okay, I'm going to now do a 180 swing, and I'm going to love Gottliebs. Stern Electronics are junk. So Gold Wings is now going to be like a $4,000 game. We'll go Premier. Premier is the best game company ever made. Nightmare on Elm Street.
    73:56
    Wait a minute. Gold Wings is Premier. Is it Premier? Yes. Okay. Basically anything like 1985 and after is going to say Premier on it. Okay. So guess what? Cactus Jacks.
    74:10
    Everything's great. So I'm going to sing the phrases. Stern Electronics, if I can't get one board fixed like a sound board, it's useless now. They're junk. Throw them away. Throw them all away. Did it work, Ron? Did it work? No, they're still expensive. Fuck. Yeah. So the last thing I have on my list is there's a certain event coming up, one that you keep looking for the tickets for. Yeah. And that would be Pinberg. Yes. Are you excited? Come up to Ron. big bear hug him. He loves it. Everyone who does it, you get a big high five from the Brewster and a hug from me.
    74:50
    The Brewster. Brewster's millions. You're Punky Brewster. I'm Punky Brewster then. I'm very excited. How about you? Yes. I'm in B now this year. I'm stuck in B. You're stuck in B because why? What did you do last year again? A top three. Yeah, I was actually. Were you second? No, I was third. Third. In what division? C. So you were a C-man. I was C-man. Yeah. Mr. C-man. So you're restricted to B. I wonder what I'm restricted to. There's a list somewhere. There is a list. I want to know something. I want to know how many of the original 156 players from Pinnberg, or first one, have made it to every Pinnberg. I know at least one, two, three. I know at least five, maybe six. Six I know. That's a good question. And I know they know this. We're supposed to get all these. We should be honored this year. We should be honored saying, look, these assholes have been here how many years now? 11? Well, what they should do is that cool medallion thing they give if you're perfect. Since I'm never going to win one of those, I should just get one of those for attending everyone. Yes, exactly. Yeah, I agree. I want a participation award. the whole guy you know you're listening i know all the people from replay fx are finished are listening i want a participation award for being in there for not missing a pinbird not missing a pinbird because it's hard not missing pinbird it's hard now and ever yep yeah it's hard to get in you make god oh man 40 seconds 30 seconds boom here did you see that there's a betting site Yes. Or you can bet on Pinbur. I'm not in it. Well, no, you can't be in it, Bruce. Why? You can't bet because you're participating. I know, but I'm saying I'm not even in it to – I think it's only like the top 50 or 100, I think. No, you are in it, my friend. I am? Oh, you are – you don't even know about this then. I didn't know everyone was in it. I thought I'm in the top 50. Oh, you don't even know about this? Okay. This is good. Okay. All right. This is from mybookie.net or something. I don't know. Just search for bookie and pinball.
    77:14
    Basically, they have odds for Pinberg. Okay, here we go. And who do you think is number one? Who's the favorite?
    77:21
    Who would be the favorite for Pinberg? I don't know. I'm looking for... Yes, you do. Just say who you think it is. It's going to be right. Who's the favorite? The one. The one is the favorite. But see, they have the odds to win, and then they have all the big names there. But then they have other little mini bets, like different groups that you can bet on. Pinball. Okay, Mayor. Pinball. Some are like, who in this group will finish first? And they've got Robert Gagneau, Adam Becker, Phil Birnbaum, Derek Thompson, and Jeff Teola. So I assume that means the best Canadian. So 300, Raymond Davidson's 500. Yeah, but scroll down a bit. Scroll down after the main section. Oh, my God. Yeah, you didn't see this, did you? No, I did not. Holy shit. The finished best in group. Finished best in this group. And I guess they assume that Jack Danger is a podcaster when he's not. But they have Jack Danger, Jeff Teolis, Bruce Nightingale, and Ron Hallett Jr. We are – you need to bet on us if you're not playing, of course. bet everything on Ron Allen. I thought he was like, Teolis is minus 150? Yeah, basically Jeff Teolis is the favorite. He's under, yeah, he's a favorite. He's the favorite. Jack Danger is better than us. I will give him that. But he qualified today one year. I've never qualified today. So, and he doesn't really play in tournaments that much. But the interesting thing is, look at the odds for me and you.
    78:48
    400 and 400, we're even. We're even. They think we're the same. Will Josh Sharp finish exactly second? Yes, there's one from when Josh Starr finished. There's exactly second. Will Keith Owen have a perfect round? That's a hard one. Yeah, this is – Wow. I don't know how I feel about this, just my name showing up. I just picture someone walking up to me like, hey, Ron, you need to throw this one. Hey, hey, they spelled your name right. They did. Don't complain then. Like someone coming up like, I got all my money on Teolis, and you're ahead of them right now. I need you to tank. But I did not know I was one of the. Yeah. You're one of the few, the proud, the player people can bet on. So if you want to lose some money, people, I'm actually going to make this bet. I'm going to have Kathy make this bet for me. You can't do that. Yes, I can. And I'm going to bet on Teolas.
    79:43
    Jesus. And then when you're ahead of him, you're going to tank on purpose. You got it, baby. Isn't it great to say that on the air? Isn't that not very smart? Luckily, my bookie.net is probably not in the United States. Of course it's not. It's offshore booking.
    80:00
    No, I'm just going to bet. I would like to do a bet against you. I would actually – we should make a bet. Who's going to win bet higher this year? A bet amongst ourselves. Yes. Okay, so if we were to bet on each other, like whoever finishes first amongst us,
    80:16
    we should do like the Trading Places bet. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I bet you $1 I will finish higher than you. I will bet you $1 I will finish higher than you. All right. I think the past five years I've been higher than you. Probably. Yes. I think there's only one or two years you were higher than me.
    80:37
    So put your money on that, folks. No, don't bet. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Now let's look. I would like to know. I think, did I? Teolas was better to me last year. I was actually better than you and Jack Danger didn't come last year I think no he doesn't play many tournaments at all yeah I know so wow yeah like I said I don't know exactly how I feel about this I'm just not a fan of the whole betting thing not when the I've said it in forum posts it's like well they do it in sports all the time it's like yeah but in sports in legitimate sports the players, officials, and governing bodies aren't the same people. Yeah, I agree. But we're not involved with this.
    81:27
    We're not involved with this. We're players. I know, but wait a sec. We're not, you know, people could bet on us that are not players. Yeah, if they want to lose their money. In that group, I think we have pretty good odds.
    81:41
    Jesus. So that'll be the big thing of the post-Pinberg show. We'll see how we did. Yes. In this foursome. What happens if we end up in the same foursome at some point? I'd fucking laugh my ass off. And it's like the last round. Oh, my God. That'd be fucking classic. And we start getting calls from people like, I need you to tank, dude. I need this order. Yeah. I did not know I was in this. That is actually quite hilarious. Let's see. Bruce, how did pinball get in trouble to begin with? Gambling. Ah, so maybe this isn't a good idea. Yeah, but guess what? This is the 2010s. This isn't, though, 1930s anymore. Yeah, this also ain't the U.S. It's in frigging offshore bedding in Europe somewhere. You probably won't even get your money if you win. It's got to be Canada. It's all Canadian guys that are fucking mostly in this. Why is it Canada? No, it's not in Canada. Well, it's like, look at the next group down. Yeah, one of the other groups is like, who's the best Canadian? Yes, exactly. So wait a sec.
    82:41
    Interestingly, they got Adam Becker's favorite over Gagnon. Yeah, I know. That's kind of weird. And they got Jeff Teolis last. Well, that's typical. So Jeff Teolis is the best podcaster but the worst Canadian. Yes. You can bet who will finish higher, Zach Sharp or Josh Sharp. Yes, I love that. So, yeah, gambling. Gambling. And on that note, what else is on our mail bowl bag? Anything else? No, that was pretty much it. Wow, I know there's a lot more, but there's more private conversations between people asking for pricing of games and that kind of stuff. That's what we do a lot of. Yeah, we do a lot of that. Well, I can do a few of them here. We got this from Alex Ertle. Hi, Alex. He says, when is the next episode? It's right now. Hi, you're live on location. We are recording now. Yes, here? Now. Now? When? No, that wasn't. That was then. Oh, no. Now. When's that? Last. We missed it. Damn it. Spaceballs, ladies and gentlemen. Yes.
    83:48
    This is from Parnell Lutz. He picked up a meteor. Actually, no. He picked up, what did he pick? A galaxy. He picked up a galaxy.
    83:56
    He wants to make it solid and put it on route. He knows some connectors were cut and wires direct soldered. Oh, we hate that. And corrosion. Get a weekly board and make connectors and be done. Yeah. I think the Coindor is from a different brand. Are those hard to find? So it doesn't have an original coin door. A classic stern, you think you're just going to find a coin door? I found two of them in the past shows. So maybe at a show and maybe on eBay. Yeah, I agree. And how is my meteor, he asked. It's good. It'll be even better once I go through it. You get to get the light boards. We'll see how the sockets are. Just don't even dick with them. What do you mean don't even? If the sockets are 100% and they work perfectly, then why would I just replace it? Out of all your stirrers you've ever owned, how many sockets have been 100%? Most on Sea-Witch were good, believe it or not. They don't have a light board like that. Oh, well, yes. I'm talking about the light boards. Well, we'll see when I turn it on. Yeah, okay. You know what the answer is going to be. I like how the light board has the from-the-factory stern electrical tape. yes that's a good factory thing yeah they did stern did that the factory someone will probably think that's not factory that's factory that's factory so when they have like a board and it's like right next to a drop target mac they would put tape to cover around the perimeter so wouldn't couldn't short against the drop target mac that's actually a factory thing yes it is so is the um electrical tape they use by the um where the power cord is or the barrister is and all that of that little block there. They have it. It's like, wow, look at this hack job. Like, no, that's actually the way. That was factory. That's factory.
    85:45
    Stern. Excuse me. So, yes, Pinberg will be an exciting time. I have that week off and the next week off. Oh, boy, you must have lots of fun. Yeah, so I might actually go there for a little bit on Sunday, which I usually just drive back Sunday. So even though I pay for the whole weekend package. So I'll get more of my money's worth, I guess. There you go. Let's see. And with that, I think that's the end of the ball bag. Anything else you want to talk about? Anything else going on in the world of pinball?
    86:19
    As I said, I've got to pick a game I'm going to pull out of the vault. Either it's going to be... Oh, yeah. Can we pick the game? Can we have another poll you won't put up? You got it. I'm going to let you do it. Harlem Globetrotters or Stargazer? Oh, and my Stargazer playfield's done. It's been cleared. Cleared? Recleared. Yeah, I don't trust a clear from anybody else except for Vance. So Stargazer or Harlem Globetrotters? You don't need a poll for that. I know, it's definitely... You put Stargazer there. Come on. Come on, dude. No, no, we're not supporting Stern Electronics anymore.
    86:53
    Oh, yeah, those games are crap. I wouldn't buy any of them. If you have one, you need to just put them for sale on Pinside right now. Yep, exactly. So clear-coated Stargazer on location at Silver Ball Saloon. That will be awesome. The things you do for your customers. Yes.
    87:14
    All right. And with that, I think we have come to the conclusion of Episode 131. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Thanks, everyone out there.
    87:26
    Just so many names to remember. Everyone knows everyone. We'll see you all at Pinbur because we're all one big pin family. And do not hug me. Don't listen to Bruce. Hug him and you'll get a high five from me and a hug. Oh, that's great. Yeah, okay. Goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Derek Price.
    88:00
    You can fool me if you try. Oh my, my. Guaranteed to keep you alive. Oh my. Oh my There he is! Yes, I is. I got him! Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is so exciting.
    88:58
    What are you eating? No, that's Velcro. Oh. I'm putting the strap on on. Strap on. Strap off. Strap on. Strap off. The strapper.