Episode 324 - 1967 Bally Orient

For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·13m 15s·analyzed·Jan 29, 2016

Analysis

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TL;DR

Deep dive into Bally's 1967 Orient bingo pinball: mechanics, features, and early solid-state innovation.

Summary

Nick Baldridge provides a comprehensive technical and historical overview of Bally's 1967 Orient, a 20-hole bingo pinball machine featuring Mystic Lines gameplay, quadruple deck scoring, and notably the first solid-state components in Bally's bingo line. The episode details the game's mechanics including star zone scoring, red letter features, pick-a-play buttons, and an innovative double-up metagame enabled by early solid-state circuitry.

Key Claims

Orient is a 20-hole game with moving numbers feature unlike 25-hole games
high confidence · Nick Baldridge describing Orient's core design
Orient was the first game Bally produced in the bingo line with solid state components in 1967
high confidence · Nick Baldridge explicitly stating this fact during technical description
Orient has quadruple deck scoring with separate odds for red, green, yellow, and blue
high confidence · Nick Baldridge detailing scoring structure with specific payout numbers
20-hole bingo games eliminated inline scoring, using only section scoring from Magic Screen games
high confidence · Nick Baldridge explaining structural difference from 25-hole games
Orient's solid state board has hand-cut rather than machine-cut traces
medium confidence · Nick Baldridge discussing maintenance implications of early solid state design

Notable Quotes

“Orient is a 20-hole game and as such it has a moving numbers feature which is unlike any of the 25-hole games that I've previously talked about.”
Nick Baldridge @ early — Establishes Orient's mechanical differentiation from prior games in the chronological series
“Orient was the first game the ballet produced in the bingo line with solid state components and this was in nineteen sixty-seven so this is very early in the solid state experimentation era”
Nick Baldridge @ mid — Key historical claim about Orient's place in pinball/bingo solid-state development timeline
“The star zone is kind of a ripoff. But it is useful for two features.”
Nick Baldridge @ mid — Candid assessment of game design trade-off in star zone mechanics
“So you could go all the way up from 12 replays to 216 replays. Now I just want to point out that your odds of actually doing this decrease quite a bit as you shoot your balls.”
Nick Baldridge @ late-mid — Explains the risk/reward tension in the double-up metagame
“The boards are probably not incredibly difficult to work on because they are not going to have a lot of components. The traces are going to be hand cut rather than machine cut.”
Nick Baldridge @ late — Technical observation about serviceability and manufacturing approach of early solid state

Entities

Nick BaldridgepersonBallycompany OrientgameMystic LinesproductZodiacgameMagic Screengame4 Amusement Onlyorganization

Signals

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historical_signal: Orient identified as first Bally bingo game with solid-state components in 1967, marking early experimentation before solid-state became standard in flipper games
high · Nick Baldridge: 'Orient was the first game the ballet produced in the bingo line with solid state components and this was in nineteen sixty-seven so this is very early in the solid state experimentation era'
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design_innovation: Double-up feature represents innovative metagame enabled by solid-state circuitry, allowing sequence-based scoring multiplication (even-odd-even pattern with doubling on 4th/5th balls)
high · Nick Baldridge detailed explanation of double-up mechanic with specific replay payout ranges (3-54 base, 6-108 after 4th ball, 12-216 after 5th ball)
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design_philosophy: Solid-state implementation driven by physical cabinet space constraints; needed additional components to add major features
high · Nick Baldridge: 'the cab was pretty much full of units and they wanted to add a big feature... this feature would allow you to play an entirely separate game'
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gameplay_signal: Orient design includes player agency through Mystic Lines repositioning that can strategically enable section winners, creating skill element within chance-based bingo
medium · Nick Baldridge: 'if you manage to arrange your numbers in such a way if you manage to call out and shoot for particular numbers you can actually get a winner in any of the sections'
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manufacturing_signal: Early solid-state boards used hand-cut rather than machine-cut traces, reducing complexity and serviceability risks

Topics

Bally bingo machine design evolutionprimaryEarly solid-state technology in pinball/bingoprimary20-hole vs 25-hole game mechanicsprimaryScoring systems and payout structuresprimaryMystic Lines gameplay mechanicsprimaryDouble-up metagame designsecondaryCabinet artwork and Chinese themesecondarySolid-state board serviceability and manufacturingsecondary

Sentiment

positive(0.75)— Nick Baldridge demonstrates genuine appreciation for Orient's innovative design, particularly the early solid-state implementation and Mystic Lines mechanics. He acknowledges design compromises (star zone as 'ripoff') but frames them as necessary trade-offs. Overall tone is enthusiastic and respectful toward the game's historical significance.

Transcript

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What's that sound? It's 4 Amusement Only, the EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast. Welcome back to 4 Amusement Only. This is Nicholas Baldridge. Tonight I wanted to talk about Bally's 1967 Orient. If you've been listening for a long time here, I've been doing a chronological overview of all of Bally's bingos. We've made it to 1967 and we actually just skipped over Zodiac. I did a little overview of Zodiac in a previous episode, so here we are at the Orient. Orient is a 20-hole game and as such it has a moving numbers feature which is unlike any of the 25-hole games that I've previously talked about. This is another Mystic Lines game. Mystic Lines allow you to move the center column of numbers up or down and swap the left most two columns and the right most two columns. This is all under player control using the buttons located on the foot rail. Orient has quadruple deck scoring, that means there are separate odds for red, green, yellow, and blue. For three in a section, the game will pay four replays at a minimum, all the way up to 192. 16 for four in a section, all the way up to 480. And 75 for five in a section, all the way up to 600. The Now, I mentioned sections because with the 20 hole games, Bally did away with inline scoring. There are only 20 numbers on the bingo card on the back glass, no repeated numbers. And therefore, Bally had to do something a little different. And so they took the section scoring from the Magic Screen games and moved it to this only section scoring type of game, the Mystic Lines games. The only issue with this is that they took one of the numbers in each section and marked it with a star. This star zone will not score at all unless it's the fifth in that section. As an example, let's take the green section. You have seven, nine, and seventeen on Orient. And if you got seven, nine, and seventeen, you don't have a winner. But if you got seven, nine, and The first time you played a pinball, you would. The only time that 17 counts is if you have 7, 9, 13, 19 and 17 all together. So in that way, the Star Zone is kind of a ripoff. But it is useful for two features. The game will randomly light numbers lit in all four StarZones for 300 or 600 replays. And it will also light the red letter game. The red letter feature takes the name of the game The first thing you do is to write the name in this case Orient which if you notice is six letters and in line with your red odds it will light one of the letters in orient in red That letter gives you a guaranteed free game with high odds and features. Now just how high those odds and features go is dependent on the score and Instruction The game is a game of cards, and each letter in sequence is going to give you better and better and better odds and features. Now, you can win this red letter game by getting three numbers in the star zones or just two numbers in the starzones, and that's fairly easy to do. Similar to the MagicScreen games where you only needed two in the orange section in order to get your red letter game, getting two in the star zones is not a huge deal. Three is a little more difficult, and getting all four star zones in order to get that huge payoff is pretty darn difficult. Now this game has double and triple scoring in any one color as many of the games before it. It also has an extended time tree to allow you to move those mystic lines. By default, it will lock you out of moving them before shooting your fourth ball. However, you can earn the chance to light before fifth or even after fifth. There are also rollovers on the playfield about two-thirds of the way down. On the left-hand side, there's a yellow rollover and if you hit it while lit, it will automatically advance you to before fifth. The red rollover on the other side of the playfield, if you hit that while it's lit, it will automatically advance you to after fifth. Now this game also has an extra ball feature. So after you shoot your five balls you can play for a chance at getting an extra ball. In order to play for the chance you have to have either replays or coins. And how much it costs is dependent on how good of a game you're having, how good of a game you've had in the past, and also just how the game feels about you at that particular moment. Now, the game on the front of the cabinet has what's called pick-a-play buttons. These are different colored buttons which will do different things with your money when you put it into the game. Yes, this is a multi-coin pinball machine. Your first coin starts it up and additional coins will give you a chance at advancing features, odds, or both. Your blue button advances only your odds, your green button advances only your features, and your red button advances only your scores now orient was the first game the ballet produced in the bingo line with solid state components and this was in nineteen sixty-seven so this is very early in the solid state experimentation era and way before solid state components were added to flipper games Now what pretty interesting is that it needed the solid state components because the cab was pretty much full of units And they wanted to add a big feature This feature would allow you to play an entirely separate game And the way that it worked is this. You have a white button that will allow you to coin up for odds on this Special game. They call this game the double up game. And this is an interesting little metagame within the game. The way it worked is this. You had to land in an even number with your first ball, an odd number with your second ball, and then an even number with your third ball. Now, when you did so, you could collect. And if you collected, then you get anywhere Not only does it have a little bit of an edge, but also the fact that you can get anywhere from 3 replays, all the way up to 54, depending on how much you coined in. But, with your 4th ball if you landed in an odd hole then you could double how much you earned. So you get anywhere from 6 replays to 108 replays. That's pretty enticing. All you have to do is just give 1 more odd number. The Well, with your fifth ball, you could double it again. So you could go all the way up from 12 replays to 216 replays. Now I just want to point out that your odds of actually doing this decrease quite a bit As you shoot your balls. As far as a metagame goes, this one sounds relatively easy. Now the way that the game knows if you've actually done it is with that solid state circuitry. It's got an actual board that's covered with a nice shield inside the cabinet. And it will determine Wednesday, on C Card 2018. It points out that, 2013. period, 2014. and 2014. World Record, 2016. Famed interfaces for the five at that saber will be Average for that time lots of Wisdom is a dancer 되� expectation To think that we need to So if you manage to arrange your numbers in such a way if you manage to call out and shoot for particular numbers you can actually get a winner in any of the sections As long as you have your mystic lines lit you can reposition all your numbers remember So that pretty cool Gives you an awful lot to think about Now later solid state games would do things like carryover I not sure if this is a good thing or not but I think it a really really good first effort as far as what they did Cu Craigisye Chanterelle et tambri b acht taklery uniqu ca jwarza uud verb hiện тырь berries unleashy natty gear, 5 uach nimQuée torpañce toравyea, Video The boards are probably not incredibly difficult to work on because they are not going to have a lot of components. The traces are going to be hand cut rather than machine cut. And so many of the dangers of working on a solid state board are at least somewhat mitigated with this type of early solid state attempt here. So let's talk about artwork. This game has a Chinese theme and there are multiple people. Lantern Festival. You've got a lot of activity leading up to a large building in the background. And I don't know enough about China to know what kind of building that is, so I won't make the attempt there. Let's talk about the cabinet. The cabinet has Chinese lanterns decorating the side and a couple of odd characters which are supposed to be reminiscent of Chinese. The game has a very colorful playfield. The base color is actually pink. And you have multiple people that are dancing in the festival. The alternating blue and red for the triangles which underscore each of the numbered holes and then a peach triangle which goes upward in between each number. I like the playfield artwork quite a bit. I think it is pretty dynamic and the pink is a nice change of pace. Well, that's all for tonight. Thank you very much for joining me. My name again is Nicholas Baldridge. You can reach me at 4amusementonlypodcast at gmail.com or you can call me on the bingos line. That's 724-BINGOS1-724-246-4671. You can listen to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Pocket Cast, via RSS, on Facebook, on Twitter at bingopodcast. You can follow me on Instagram, also at bingopodcast, or you can listen to us on our website, which is 4amusementonly.libsyn.com. Thank you very much for listening and I'll see you next time. And I'll talk to you next time.