Episode 307 - 1958 Bally Carnival Queen

For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·17m 52s·analyzed·Jan 12, 2016

Analysis

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TL;DR

Deep dive into 1958 Bally Carnival Queen, first Magic Screen game with innovative player-controlled replay registration.

Summary

Nicholas Baldrige discusses the 1958 Bally Carnival Queen, the first Magic Screen pinball game, explaining the mechanics of bingo pinball, the innovative Magic Screen feature that allows players to shift a card to reveal special sections, and the player-controlled R button replay registration system. He covers gameplay strategy, artwork, and cabinet design.

Key Claims

Carnival Queen was the first Magic Screen game
high confidence · Nicholas Baldrige, host of For Amusement Only, opening statement of the episode
Magic Screen games are typically considered the best of all Bally bingos by many people in the community
medium confidence · Nicholas Baldrige citing feedback from multiple people he has talked to
Carnival Queen was the first game with player-controlled replay registration via the R button
high confidence · Nicholas Baldrige, detailed explanation of game mechanics and innovation
Magic Screen games are significantly more complex than earlier bingo machines from an electromechanical engineering perspective
high confidence · Nicholas Baldrige, general observation about the achievement of implementing Magic Screen mechanics
Carnival Queen has seven different Magic Screen positions
high confidence · Nicholas Baldrige describing specific gameplay mechanics

Notable Quotes

“Magic Screen games are typically considered the best of all Bally bingos. And this is by many of the folks that I've talked to. I really love Magic Screens. They were my first introduction to bingos.”
Nicholas Baldrige @ ~2:15 — Establishes community sentiment around Magic Screen games and personal connection to the technology
“I just find it absolutely fascinating that they were able to do all this electromechanically.”
Nicholas Baldrige @ ~2:45 — Expresses admiration for the engineering achievement of implementing complex game mechanics without digital systems
“So in this way, Bally really made this a thinking game all the way through. Previous games required you to think at multiple times during the game, but few of them required such strategy.”
Nicholas Baldrige @ ~9:30 — Highlights the strategic innovation of Carnival Queen and how it elevated the skill/strategy component of bingo pinball
“It costs you less to get an extra ball before you earn your replays. So once you push the R button and you start racking up those replays, it costs you many more to earn an extra ball than it would before you started.”
Nicholas Baldrige @ ~8:45 — Explains key strategic element enabled by player-controlled R button—timing of replay registration affects cost of extra balls
“This game is absolutely beautiful. You have on the back glass, of course, it's carnival themed. You have a variety of women standing on the street during a carnival. There's ticker tape and balloons falling from the sky.”
Nicholas Baldrige @ ~10:30 — Provides detailed description of the artwork and theme aesthetic of Carnival Queen

Entities

Nicholas BaldrigepersonBallycompany Carnival Queengame Circus Queengame Bright LightsgameTurf KinggameFor Amusement Onlyorganization

Signals

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historical_signal: Carnival Queen identified as the first Magic Screen pinball game, establishing a significant milestone in bingo pinball design history
high · Nicholas Baldrige: 'Carnival Queen was the first Magic Screen game.'
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design_philosophy: Introduction of player-controlled R button for replay registration represents shift from automatic to player-determined timing of score collection, adding strategic depth
high · Nicholas Baldrige detailed explanation of R button mechanics and its strategic implications for game cost optimization
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design_innovation: Magic Screen feature allows playfield card to shift and reveal colored sections with different scoring rules, adding significant mechanical and strategic complexity
high · Detailed explanation of seven Magic Screen positions, supersections, blue L-shaped section, and their respective scoring mechanics
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community_signal: Magic Screen games are regarded as the best of all Bally bingo machines according to community feedback
medium · Nicholas Baldrige: 'Magic Screen games are typically considered the best of all Bally bingos. And this is by many of the folks that I've talked to.'
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design_philosophy: Reflex unit escalation and randomized odds adjustment used to level playing field for skilled players, preventing domination by good players
high · Nicholas Baldrige explanation of reflex unit mechanics that increase cost of features as players win replays

Transcript

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What's that sound? It's 4 Amusement Only, the EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast. Welcome back to 4 Amusement Only. This is Nick Baldridge. Still with a head cold but feeling better than yesterday. I managed to strip and clean a Bright Lights playfield That game is part of my Turf King pickup and it is ready for wall hanging until somebody needs one. So should the need rise for a Bright Lights playfield, let me know. I've got one. Tonight's episode is all about 1958's Bally Carnival Queen. Now, long time listeners may be saying, hey, wait a minute, you've already talked about Circus Queen, but that's actually a different game. Carnival Queen was the first Magic Screen game. Before we get into the intricacies of MagicScreens and MagicScreen gameplay, I thought I'd take a moment and talk about what exactly a bingo pinball is. Remember that for every episode, this is somebody's first episode, potentially. A bingo pinball machine is simply a pinball machine where you put a nickel in, the game resets, a ball is loaded to the shooter lane, and at that point you can play more coins to try and gain further advantage in the game. So by default, the game will load with the lowest possible odds. It will also load with no features, typically. Unless you're really bad, like I am. In which case it'll give you lots of pity features. But the thing about these games is that there are multiple phases of play. The very first thing you need to do is decide how much money you're going to spend on this particular game. It's very easy for the machine to take a dollar, two dollars, even more worth of nickels and you still may not have maxed out all of the advantages necessarily. This is in part due to the very complex design of these machines and also in part due to several mechanisms in particular all have to be in a particular alignment in order for you to earn certain features also on some games if you earn a feature it prevents you from earning another feature by default you get five balls if you plunge your balls and land in holes which are adjacent for three, four, or five in a row then you earn a certain amount of replays at a minimum you earn four replays for three in a row, sixteen for four in a row, and seventy-five for five in a row and you can earn all the way up to a hundred ninety-two for three in a row four hundred eighty for four in a row and six hundred for five in a row Now, the way that you earn these replays can actually vary by game. In Carnival Queen's case, this is a game with triple deck scoring. That means that some lines on the bingo card on the back glass are red, some are green, Around carpet conceived 268 D marker to be in play hätDO Motiva CodeR but developer noticed this page is chipошондó descriперkanó here you cannot be The only thing I is important about that is that MagicScreen games are typically considered the best of all Ballybingos And this is by many of the folks that I've talked to. I really love MagicScreens. They were my first introduction to bingos. The when you hear how complex the gameplay is uh... I just find it absolutely fascinating that they were able to do all this electromechanically. By default, as I mentioned, you have a bingo card and it's made up of twenty five numbers the playfield has a corresponding twenty five numbers and a ball return at the bottom if you make The ball travel all the way down the playfield to the bottom and hit the ball return it comes right back to you, no penalty. The game doesn't end until you shoot all five balls and at that point you have another decision point. You can put in more money to try and earn extra balls, up to three. But it usually takes quite a bit of money in order to free up an extra ball. So I really typically only play for those if I have a really sure thing going.

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carnival queen has seven different positions when you push the left arrow and you have the feature lit up to G you can hold it down For seven changes of the screen. This will reveal several different sections. A red and white stripe section, a yellow and black stripe section, a green section, a blue section, and more. Each of these scores as per the corresponding odds on the back glass. Just as if you had Three in a row in the yellow. If you get three in the yellow section, then you get the three in a row replays award. Now I mentioned these sections with the stripes. There's a yellow section with black stripes and a red section with white stripes. These are called the supersections and the game will light these independently and randomly And if you were awarded these supersections and you managed to sink only two balls in the section, it scores as if you had put three. If you put three balls in the section it scores as four and four scores as five. The blue section I mentioned is a special L-shaped, reverse L-shaped section that's only three numbers wide or only contains three numbers that's better way to phrase that if you manage to sink a ball in each of the three exposed blue holes then you'll earn the replays for a green five in a line randomly the machine will award you two in the blue scores green five This game had what called an extended time tree where by default you locked out of moving those sections, moving that screen before shooting your fourth ball. But the game will randomly award and will also light rollovers which if hit will extend Find your time treated before the fifth ball. This game was also the first game which had player controlled replay registration. You do this by hitting the R button on the footrail, the lockdown bar. This is crucially important and is actually part of the strategy of playing a bingo moving forward. commissioner that the earlier games would automatically count your replays as soon as you had made them and the timing features were complete. At a certain point, Bally shifted to starting to count your replays immediately, rather than waiting for the feature to time out, and this allowed you to score in multiple sections. With the advent of the MagicScreen, Bally again innovated and made it so that the player could control the tightness of the machine. Now when I say the tightness, I mean that as you win replays on the machine, the machine will start to ratchet up something called the reflex unit. The reflex Unit, as it steps up, makes it more difficult for you to achieve step-ups in your odds or your features. In this way, it punishes a good player or at least attempts to level the playing field for somebody who is winning a large amount of replays by making it so that you have to The drop in perhaps five nickels to light what would take previously only one nickel to light.

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And in the far background you have a park and behind that you have a cityscape. There are spotlights in the distant, distant background which are shining up into the night sky. Very colorful, very attractive glass. And then moving to the cabinet, you see the carnival theme extended. On the sides of the cabinet you have flags, musical notes and stars along with masquerade masks. This theme also extends to the front of the cab with more masquerade masks. And then on the playfield, you have many women dancing or hanging out at the carnival outside. Overhead there are fireworks going off. There are flowers and other vegetation hanging out at the bottom of the playfield and at the top in the background. Very lively, very colorful. Uses a nice shade of Blue. As I say, I think it's very attractive. Now, one interesting thing to note is that this game came with a card for the operator. It says, Important! R button must be pressed to register replays. Press R button after shooting fourth ball. Void if game is tilted. Now that's a point about the R button that I didn't mention. You can collect your replays early as well. You can collect them after shooting your fourth ball. You don't have to wait for your feature to time out. The game used to do that automatically, but now it's under the player's control. Well that was a long and winding episode. Thank you very much for listening. My name again is Nick Baldrige. You can reach me at For more information, please visit www.foramusementonlypodcast.com or you can call me on the bingos line at 724-BINGOS1 . You can listen to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Pocket Cast, via RSS, on Facebook, on Twitter, at Bingo Podcast. You can follow me on Instagram, also at Bingo Podcast, or you can listen to us on our website which is www.foramusementonly.libsyn.com at which you can order your very own Tee shirt, and who doesn't want a tiny illustration of me joining them in their day-to-day life? As you run errands, I'll be there. As you listen to For Amusement Only, I'll be there. Even if you listen to other podcasts, I won't be offended. I'll still be there. Thank you very much for listening and I'll talk to you next time.