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Episode 112 – Almost Live

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Oct 17, 2018
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TL;DR

Live Slam Tilt episode covers Pinball Expo plans, local tournaments, machine repairs, and community banter.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale host a live, unstructured episode of Slam Tilt Podcast from Cameron Silver Ball Saloon in East Rochester, NY. The hosts discuss upcoming Pinball Expo attendance, local tournament activity (pin golf, women's tournament), machine repairs and troubleshooting (Dracula, GammaTron, flipper issues), and casual pinball community chat including Zach Sharpe Meny's tournament wins and observations about classic System 1 games.

Key Claims

  • Pinball Expo will feature reveals including Oktoberfest (Stern) and a 'creepy guy' machine that may be playable

    medium confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing Pinball Expo announcements; Stern's reveal strategy typically involves trailers from home locations

  • Stern changed Pinball Expo schedule so Sunday is no longer a general play day, only for tournament competition

    high confidence · Ron states 'They changed it so that Sunday's not an actual play day now' and schedule format/font has remained the same for 15 years

  • Buffalo Women's Pinball Plunge 1018 tournament is October 21st at 3:30pm (doors 3pm) at Toast, with 6 rounds of match play plus playoffs

    high confidence · Ron provides specific details: IFPA event, $3 plus coin drop, at Toast venue in Buffalo featuring Stern 'AC/DC Premium', Iron Maiden, Kiss, Walking Dead, Metallica

  • Zach Sharpe Meny won the Cameron Silver Ball Saloon pin golf tournament with a GoldenEye score of $2.8 billion

    high confidence · Ron and Bruce discussing recent pin golf tournament results; Zach regularly wins

  • A Dracula machine had a critical switch matrix issue where one stuck switch blocked all other switches from working

    high confidence · Zach Sharpe and Steph detailed the troubleshooting process: sticky switch on ball trough, switch wouldn't reset, blocking entire matrix

  • An unknown classic Stern machine had a coil voltage issue (5V at connector, 43V at test point) resolved by re-pinning a connector

    high confidence · Detailed technical troubleshooting description by Steph; repinning the connector resolved coil failure

  • Stern classic machines featured an adjustment screw on the kickback eject to control power/height, which later machines dropped

    medium confidence · Discussion of Drive Killer's overpowered eject; hosts note this design feature was not carried forward in later Stern models

  • Tim Ball is planning to do a 'Tim Rant' at Pinball Expo and is no longer a peer-run podcast host

Notable Quotes

  • “I think Sam Stern will probably not reveal anything. They're not going to reveal anything. Because they reveal crap on their own time. They'll post a trailer from their home location with the first letter of the name of the next game just slowly being revealed with a zoom out with epic music in the background.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ mid-episode — Satirizes Stern's marketing strategy for new game announcements, reflecting community sentiment about their reveal patterns

  • “Zach Sharpe, you get tired of winning. You seem so excited about winning, losing, not even playing. I'm always so excited. Can't you tell? You can see the excitement right now.”

    Zach Sharpe Meny (responding) @ mid-episode — Humorous acknowledgment of Zach's consistent tournament dominance

  • “None of the coils worked. None of the switches worked. Except the start button. You could start a game, but then nothing would happen.”

    Zach Sharpe Meny @ technical segment — Describes the Dracula switch matrix fault, illustrating common electromechanical troubleshooting scenarios

  • “It was just a shop job. We can't tell why. The pin looked perfectly fine, but we removed it, gripped a new pin on, and instant coils.”

    Steph (venue tech) @ technical segment — Highlights mysterious connector issue resolved by re-pinning; reflects frustration with unexplained electrical faults

  • “A garbage plate is all the things. You put two bases down—starchy things like French fries, home fries, mac salad, cold beans, or salt potatoes. Then you put down your meat, which is hamburgers, hot dogs, red hots, Dick White hots, chicken tenders. Then you put meat sauce on top of it, onion, ketchup, mustard, hot sauce, and it's the goodness.”

    Ron Hallett @ early segment — Cultural tangent explaining local Rochester food; shows conversational, unstructured podcast style

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonZach Sharpe MenypersonCameron Silver Ball SaloonvenuePinball ExpoeventToastvenueStern PinballcompanyTim BallpersonStephperson

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Ron Hallett planning Pinball Expo attendance Thursday evening through Sunday, will attend Stern seminars and meet industry personalities (Timmer, Keith, Lyman); Expo schedule restructured so Sunday no longer general play day

    high · Ron states 'I'm going to be here through Thursday...I'll be walking in probably just when they're opening the hall. Yes, that was the idea.' Discusses schedule change: 'They changed it so that Sunday's not an actual play day now.'

  • ?

    announcement: Stern expected to reveal Oktoberfest and a 'creepy guy' themed machine at Pinball Expo; likely playable/demo status

    medium · Bruce: 'Oktoberfest is supposed to be there. It's supposed to be revealed. And you get to see the creepy guy.' Discussion of whether machines will be playable; speculation that Stern learned lessons from previous shows.

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Tim Ball transitioning away from peer-run podcast format; planning 'Tim Rant' appearance at Pinball Expo

    medium · Ron: 'Tim's not a peer-run podcast anymore, so I'm just really curious to see what his awesome new Tim Rant's going to be. I know, the fact that he consented. It must be big.'

  • ?

    product_concern: Multiple machines at Cameron Silver Ball Saloon experiencing critical electrical and switch matrix issues requiring significant troubleshooting (Dracula, GammaTron, flipper rebuild kit deficiencies)

    high · Dracula: 'None of the coils worked. None of the switches worked. Except the start button.' GammaTron spinners/drop targets failing. Flipper rebuild kits missing bushings; hosts note 'That's a big fail with all these companies.'

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
Don't tell me. Let me guess. You men want a date. Uh, yeah. We want two of them. And make it snappy. Yeah. I want one with big boobs, please.
0:14
Handsome and funny. Well, first I need you to answer a couple of questions here on our compatibility quiz. Um, butthead, they didn't say anything about a quiz. Shut up, Beavis. Do you want a score or not?
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful State of New York, this is the Flammable Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett. Here's my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. Hello, folks. And we are at the Silver Ball Saloon. Ooh. We have Uncle Gary in the back, part of the Stern Army.
0:56
Where's the Silver Ball Saloon located again? It is in East Rochester, 135 West Commercial Street in East Rochester, New York. Zip code is 14445. You heard it here. USA. That's a lot of fours. Yes, it is. We're not alone. We also have the pinball princess. Hi. We also have everyone's favorite, Zach.
1:17
Zach has personally fixed every machine here at one point. Not every machine, no. A lot of them. Just like three quarters.
1:24
What's Zach's opinion of the big game right behind us? Best wide body ever Best stern wide body? No, no, no, even that But it's very good Big game over Cheetah? Is it good? Yeah Is it good? Is it subpar? I still need more time on Cheetah, I guess Every game of Cheetah I play sucks Well, you played Ron, so that means it sucks No, I mean like every game I have sucks Not the game of sucks The game plays fine So we are live this week Yes, we are Because I'm in Rochester and I won't have a chance to edit, so let's just do it live. So, Bruce, you've got to behave, right? No. You're not going to say really inappropriate things because I can't edit them out. I know that. You just have a smile spreading across his face. Yeah, I'm scared already. I really am. You should be.

medium confidence · Ron mentions Tim Ball consented to do a rant at Expo; status change from peer-run podcast noted

Gary Stern
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Buffalo Women's Pinball Plunge 1018event
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GammaTrongame
GoldenEyegame
Drive Killergame
Big Gamegame
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operational_signal: Cameron Silver Ball Saloon conducting extensive repair and maintenance on machines; Zach Sharpe Meny providing technical expertise and parts/rebuild kits; streaming repair sessions to YouTube

high · Zach working on 'big game' flipper issues; Steph helping troubleshoot; hosts note 'we've been streaming three different rigs at Zach Sharpe's...Sometimes more than one at once.' Multiple machines in repair queue.

  • ?

    community_signal: Active tournament scene in Rochester/Buffalo area including Sam Stern Army events (monthly), pin golf, women's tournaments, ladder tournaments with 100+ participants

    high · Hosts discuss multiple events: pin golf tournament at Cameron Silver Ball; Buffalo Women's Pinball Plunge Oct 21st; Sam Stern Army monthly events; Pinball Expo ladder tournament with 'over a hundred people usually play.'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Zach Sharpe Meny won Cameron Silver Ball pin golf tournament; finalists were princess (2nd), Bruce (3rd), Ron/Bob (4th). GoldenEye high score $2.8 billion.

    high · Ron: 'And Zach Sharpe wins again. Wins again...She finish second. And Zach Sharpe wins again.' Pin golf: 'What did he get? Like $670' vs Ron's $615M on Dirty Harry.

  • ?

    venue_signal: Toast bar in Buffalo recently opened with pinball featuring Stern 'AC/DC Premium', Iron Maiden, Kiss, Walking Dead, Metallica; hosting women's tournament Oct 21st

    medium · Ron confirms Toast 'featuring five classic sterns' with specific titles; tournament announced. Hosts note 'Their newest Buffalo pinball location' and machines were added recently.

  • ?

    product_concern: Flipper rebuild kits from manufacturers missing critical components (bushings, screws) leaving technicians to source parts separately

    high · Zach worked on 'big game' with rebuild kit that 'didn't include bushings.' Hosts discuss: 'That's a big fail with all these companies. They need to include bushings. PBR does...They don't even sell plastic kits because they don't have all the parts.'

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Classic Stern machines featured adjustment screw on kickback eject to control power/height; feature appears absent from later models despite being useful design innovation

    medium · Discussion of 'Drive Killer' eject adjustment: 'But Sam Stern actually had an adjustment screw on the eject. You can adjust the height of the coil stop...That was amazingly thoughtful and well-designed. Did they keep doing that or no?' Hosts confirm later models lack this feature.

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Community debate about best System 1 Gottlieb games; Countdown, Joker Poker, and Sinbad mentioned as candidates; hosts discuss playability, rule depth, and flipper responsiveness as factors

    medium · Ron: 'Is Countdown the best System 1 game, yes or no? Yes. There is none.' Debate about whether System 1 games are viable despite 'ground mods' being necessary; discussion of flipper rebuild quality affecting playability.

    • 2:14
    Okay. We've been scared. Well, you have a delay. I do. Actually, I don't think that makes a difference. If only you had a sensor button. Sensor, sensor, sensor. You need to invest in a sensor button. So welcome to episode 112. Ant-Man and the Wasp. Okay. I never saw it either. Me neither. It's brand new. I didn't even know it was out yet. Yeah. It is. So we have all colossally failed. Yes, we have. We're used to that. Well, I don't consider it a failure not seeing it, so. Yeah. And if I keep turning away, it's because the mic is here, so you can see the back of my head. Unfortunately, you can't have that top record too in parallel. Ah, no. No. Not crisp. Let's just say our video, but it's not bad. No. And if it's a copy, in any way, I will be uploading one on YouTube. And eventually the podcast.
    3:08
    Because that's how I'm going to see it. Yep. So, what are we doing? What are we doing here? We just finished trivia at the old Silverwall Saloon. And bro tenders did win. The bro tenders. That's our name for our... We crushed. Yeah, the Slam Tilt crew did not enter because we didn't realize that that was going on or else we would have beaten y'all. I've invited Zach many times.
    3:34
    I know almost all the answers. You can go to a team. We can find you a team. I don't want to be found a team. You can be on our team. I don't want to be on your team. Because you are. I'm not a pro, and I'm not a tender. You're a chicken tender. You eat them a lot. No. Yes, you do. I do, but I'm not. That was the first thing I picked up.
    3:53
    Oh, yeah, definitely. Oh, yeah. So, what should we talk about? I have no format. I have nothing. What's your next? News of the week. Okay, what news? Week, week, week. What the hell's been going on? This Week in Pinball's not out yet, so. Expo. We've got to talk about Expo. Yeah, it's only Sunday night. It's only Sunday, so we now have to talk about your trip coming up to Expo and what your plans are and how the many fans out there can grab and hold and touch you and say, I need you. or identify him and then wave yes don't forget yes or hug him don't forget come up to an expo and give him a big hug or try to shake your hand if you know they're feeling adventurous please try to do that that's like the hug bonding hug is to is like Bruce-ism for handshake nope it's not it's truly blue he got many hugs when he was there last time and he loved it uh well from Finberg yes Yes, he did. Hug shakes. It's like this. You just hold out your hand. No, it's not. You just hold both hands around Ron and go, hi.
    5:03
    But I see Steph had some of our food. How was it? It was delicious. Actually, Zach was responsible for the monkey bread. That's good. It was his suggestion. There you go. I can eat one by myself. You can't, but you shouldn't. You shouldn't. It's only 1,800 calories. Exactly. I've already had a garbage plate today Yes, please tell people what a garbage plate is Delicious It is delicious Bad Garbage plate is It's All the things It's meat First you put your First you put two bases down Starchy things Which is starch Which is either French fries Home fries Mac salad Or cold beans Or entire potatoes Or entire salt potatoes If you're going for like the Syracuse flavor of it Then you put down your meat, which is either hamburgers, hot dogs, red hots, white hots, chicken tenders. You should try the chicken tenders. They're really good. Chicken tender one. I want to eat some chicken tenders. I'll just eat them. No. I know. Throw them in. Oh, you do. Then you put meat sauce on top of it, onion, ketchup, mustard. Hot sauce. Hot sauce, and it's the goodness. Yes. And it's like, it comes in a to-go container, and it's about a pound of food. It's a good thing it comes in a to-go container. It is more food than I can handle. Oh, I can eat one. What is a red hot and a white hot? Because I wasn't quite... A red hot is a beef, and a white hot is a pork hot dog.
    6:30
    Oh, shit. Is there a pinball hot dog? Just trying to bring it back. No, no, no. We don't talk pinball. We don't talk pinball? No. You're violating one of the rules. I know. Hi, Chris.
    6:40
    So, at Expo, we're going to have reveals. Yes, reveals. We're going to have Oktoberfest. With now the creepy guy. We just saw the picture of the creepy guy. It can actually be there. Oktoberfest is supposed to be there. It's supposed to be revealed. And you get to see the creepy guy. There'll be something in the capital that you can look at. Maybe even play. It may be played up. I would assume... It may play for about ten minutes. I would assume play, because if they don't have it ready for play, why even do it? Yeah. That's my thought. On the other hand, Stern.
    7:12
    Well, Stern... Stern, I think, learned their lesson at the last time. They just won't bring it to the show. Yeah. I think Stern will probably not reveal anything. They're not going to reveal anything. No. Because they reveal crap on their own time. They'll post a trailer from their home location with the first letter of the name of the next game just slowly being revealed by a zoom out with epic music in the background. There'll be a trailer, a short trailer. No one will like it. They'll say it sucks. And a couple of days later, there'll be pictures come out and everyone will say, Oh my God, it's a great trailer. I didn't notice it. I didn't know it was coming out, man. Yeah. And then everyone will pre-order.
    7:44
    Yep. At least we'll sell out. At least we'll sell out immediately of the monsters, etc. So we were actually in the back of the Silver Ball Saloon. We were in the back of the building with Gary looking over us. Uncle Gary, right there. I was going to put a glass of vodka right next to him, but, you know. Not on the machines.
    8:03
    Gary's for a Stern Army event, right, Gross? Gary is for a Stern Army event, which we had this week, last week, and we have one coming up next week. Why didn't we have one last week? I thought we did. No, not last week. Three weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. And then we have one coming up this week. Because they're monthly events. They're monthly events. Well, no, it was actually late in the month last month, and then we're getting earlier this month, so it's actually a little sooner.
    8:23
    How exciting. So, Expo, what are your thoughts? When do you fly out, Ron? Well, I will be here through Thursday. Okay. Well, every morning. Yeah. So I'm going to be... So you're flying out Thursday? Yeah. So far I've been in Rochester, in Buffalo, then back to Rochester, then to Albany, then to Chicago. by flying over Rochester. By flying, yes. And then I'll get there Thursday evening. Okay.
    8:59
    You'll be walking in probably just when they're opening the hall. Yes, that was the idea. Dad meeting you out there? He's coming with me. Okay. So, I'm going to try to attend the seminars, especially the Stern Seminars, just to see all the reveals. And see Timmer. and Keith and Lyman. Tim Balls told me he's going to do a Tim Rant. He's going to have a Tim Rant for me when I'm there. Really? About us? He hasn't said what it's going to be about. It's got to be about us.
    9:34
    Tim's not a peer-run podcast anymore, so I'm just really curious to see what his awesome new Tim Rant's going to be. I know, the fact that he consented. It must be big. Must be big. That's the kind of... Huge!
    9:48
    It's going to be one big boom. Boom! The return of Timbal. And see, yeah. And then you fly back Sunday? Sunday morning. Back to here? Yeah. No, back to Albany. Okay, so you're going to... I'm going to go back to Albany. Okay. But it's nice to see they actually changed the schedule since Sunday was pretty much dead. Yeah. And if you paid to go Sunday to actually play games, you were dumb. I mean, you say change the schedule, Isn't this a completely new event?
    10:16
    No, it was actually modified last year. I think last year. Okay, by new event, if you look at the schedule, it's the exact same format, font, and everything that it's been for the last 15 years. So whoever made it before is still making it.
    10:32
    They changed it so that Sunday's not an actual day now. So the only way you'll be there Sunday is if you're playing in the tournament, which I won't be playing in anyway, so I have no reason to stay there.
    10:43
    Not that the tournament's not great. They'll be running a... Ladder. The bracket tournament thing. The bracket that goes on into infinity. It takes up an entire wall. And beyond. Yeah.
    10:56
    To ladder and beyond. You'll get called to play at any time, but you can see where you are in a queue. It's one of those. Yeah.
    11:05
    How many people do you usually play? A hundred? Over a hundred. Over a hundred people usually play in a tournament. It's insane. I want to play in a ladder sometime. That does sound like the sort of thing you'd want to do. Well, let's make this start an army to cut ladder. How's that? Are you... The whole thing? Well, you just play one game and have to determine where the ladder statement is. Yeah, fair enough. How's that sound? It'll take way too long to play the game, though.
    11:29
    One game? Yeah. Well, if we get 10 or 12 people, they play a four-player game together. Then it's only three games you've got to wait for, and then you start the ladder. It's still three games and four players each you have to wait for. Or you can actually have them do it before in pre-qualifying. Then you're still waiting around. because they're all going to be clubbed up. No, you do it in that first hour. And folks, if you're looking for a format, there is none. We're literally sitting at a table shooting the shit, and that's what this is going to be. I'm going to take a piece of... I really don't know if it should have been a format. You know, it's old. Because I just didn't have time for a format. Fail. Whatever. We should have thought ahead. No. Yes. No thinking ahead. Do we have anyone in the chat? No, we have no one in the chat. Excellent. No one in chat. It's your chance to do answer questions and stuff. Be interactive right now. You could insult Bruce. Live. To his face. And nobody will. Nobody will because they're all watching. Well, no, football's over. Football's on. Oh, no, football's on. That's it. They're all watching football. Yep. Kansas City versus New England. Oh. It's on at the bar. How are the Patriots doing? They were winning. We do have somebody being quiet in the chat.
    12:37
    Hey, I remember you. You were just watching us stream games a while ago. Very nice. Ask us questions. Wake up is a bit. Pats are winning and so are the socks. Of course they are.
    12:50
    Hey, Mr. Chalk Webster. I got more monkey bread. And the cool thing is when we have the audio, no one will get any of the chat references. You can even have the last piece, but you have to make us final kick press.
    13:00
    Nope, last piece is later. I'll make them later on. Still order those? No. Any repairs this week? They're asking. I worked on this. I worked on a big game.
    13:15
    And when I came in, what was it, yesterday? The left lower flipper was sticking and not going to a full home position. So luckily, Zach got me a rebuild kit a couple weeks ago for a Stern older electronics solid state type 2. But I don't think it matters on the flipper rebuild kits, does it? Type 1, type 2? I think it's just the base is better. But the bushing. But the bushing it does, yes. Did it include bushings? No.
    13:44
    No, they don't. That's a big fail with all these companies. They need to include bushings. PBR does. Yeah. They don't even sell plastic stern kits because they don't have all the parts because no one has all the parts. I know. So I went into it today, and I found four of the six bushing screws missing on the lower left and right flipper. There's one holding each bushing on, one screw. It all disappeared into the... And they were not in the bottom of the cabinet or anything, so I got my screw bin out, and they were perfect. They were not screwed up or messed up. They tightened right up. Ever consider Loctite? Ugh. Why? I hate that stuff. I love that. See, blue Loctite, anything on the flipper plate. The problem is screws are so weak these days that when you try to unscrew them, they'll strip. Screws are so weak these days. Well, they are, actually. The metal doesn't have any of that radiation anymore. Yeah, exactly. It's all healthy shit now.
    14:44
    So, then I noticed I was going into the flippers, and after I replaced that, we actually talked about this on your big game, Ron. The back plate behind the upper flippers was bent and catching on the flipper.
    15:02
    So I bent that back, and no more hang-up. What else did I fix this week? Nothing actually broke yesterday. Well, Star Trek messed up.
    15:15
    Star Trek messed up? No, I thought it was Mustang that messed up. Star Trek also messed up earlier, before the finals. Oh, on me? Yeah, remember? Yeah. Yeah, I remember. You got instant four-ball multi-ball? Oh.
    15:25
    Oh, well. Also, I'm pretty sure the trough glitched. Yeah, except that when I get a beneficial malfunction, my instinct is not to play on. It's try and trap off. And then Mustang would just Mustang. And I'm really awful at driving a hub. So, uh... Well, that's what you're supposed to do. It is what you're supposed to do, which is why I got failed.
    15:45
    I'm used to Tim Sexton running tournaments, so I try to play by the rules. Yeah, I suppose the other tournaments that Tim doesn't run.
    15:55
    So, who's your favorite Buffalo pin friend? Oh, yeah, that's... Who's that? Asking, who's your favorite Buffalo pin friend? What does that even mean? Okay, Kevin. Shout out to the pin drawlers, my Buffalo pinball team.
    16:10
    Annihilating again in the rankings. Oh, yeah? Just like every season until we lose in the final night. Or when you actually get more players below 1,000, then you're really screwed, aren't you?
    16:23
    Yeah, they're still purposely holding off, so keep them a while. Ah, that works. And shooting up the women's rankings instead, to make it to the women's national championships. nothing of that you know boring Maine States championship or anything like that yeah speaking of which isn't there a women's tournament in Buffalo this coming weekend there is tell us about it I don't know much past Buffalo Wins is running a tournament and it's on Sunday and that's all we know and isn't the start time like 3pm I don't know same time as mine out here for the coffee cats yep I believe it was 3pm so basically if someone wanted to go to Silver Ball, but also wanted to go to this, they would have one hell of a choice to make. That sucks. Luckily, no one faces that position here. Nobody does at all. Sucks for them.
    17:13
    Completely hypothetical situation. Absolutely. Yep, wind translates here, and good stuff on the Stern Army. You mentioned a tournament. Did you have a tournament yesterday? We did have a tournament. We had a pin golf tournament. Pin golf? Yep, and three out of four people were the finalists here. Which one was missing?
    17:31
    Ronald. Yeah, like $615 million or whatever on Dirty Harry was not enough. Not enough to get me in, unfortunately. God. Yeah, because what did he get? Like $670. So, ow, that hurt. I really thought I had it there. I thought that would be cool. After our banner game and ours was earlier with a whopping winning score of like $400 million.
    17:53
    I really thought that would be cool. He could have the four people here in the finals, but it did not happen. No, it did not happen. He failed. Bob. Bob finished fourth. I finish third. The princess finish second.
    18:06
    And Zach. Wins again. You try beating him. You get tired of winning. You seem so excited. I'm always so excited. Can't you tell? You can see the excitement right now. Winning, losing, not even playing. Well, on GoldenEye, he got $2.8 billion.
    18:23
    Yeah, just casually. It was something to save. It's really easy to do if you can hit the two shots. The game only has three shots. Yeah. What, the three ramps? Yeah, and the target. And the target. That's it. That's your four shots. Target target. That's my kind of game. Maybe that's why I like GoldenEye. It's simple. Not too many shots to confuse me. By the way, the Buffalo Women's Pinball, it's the Buffalo Women's Pinball Plunge 1018, which is on October 21st at 3 p.m.
    18:51
    I thought that said 3.30. They start, there's practice. Doors open. Doors open 3. They start at 3.30. It's six rounds of match play with playoffs, and it's an IFBA event, $3 plus coin drop. And that's at Mixed Good at Toast. Their newest Buffalo pinball location featuring five classic sterns and nothing else. What? The picture that I just saw had... Not five seconds. No, like, they've got Walking Dead, Metallica, ACDC, Iron Maiden, and Kiss. You're sure? That was like a countdown to me. That wasn't there when I was there two weeks ago. Okay, I don't know then. So perhaps they also have a countdown. But if you're in the area... That means at least one good game in the bottom. You're in the Buffalo... Wow. You're in the Buffalo and or Canada. Takeoff, eh? Yeah. And you want to make the trip? Yep. Come on over, come on down to the tournament. If you are in Syracuse or in Rochester, come on over to us. Or if you're in Buffalo and you want to come over, you're more than welcome. And if you have a TARDIS, call me.
    20:01
    Yeah, because you're going to have to pick. I know you're going to pick this place, but this place rocks.
    20:07
    26 pinball machines, including classic sterns. But which one's worth more points? I don't know. By the way, your answer about your favorite Buffalo pin trap is wrong. I don't know. I didn't realize there was a correct answer. Don't know? Yeah, I didn't know it was right or wrong answer.
    20:25
    So... Is this one of those opinion versus fact things again? No, no, this is pure fact. Yes, this is pure fact. Pinhead knows what the truth is. Yeah. But he won't tell us. It's a secret. So, there's been lots of streaming going on, too. We have this stream. We've been streaming three different rigs at Zach's. Yeah. Speaking of repairs. Sometimes more than one at once. Yeah. So, repairs, we've had Dracula. Yeah. which was not... Dracula was... None of the coils worked. None of the switches worked. Except the start button.
    21:01
    You could start a game, but then nothing would happen. Because the start button's on a different connector.
    21:05
    On that. No, all the switches switch to a switch test. Hmm. So a switch is blocking the signal, so none of the switches would actually work.
    21:15
    A switch was activated completely. That's what happened? Yes. So one switch was on, and it blocked all of it out.
    21:24
    Which shouldn't be quite how that works, because it's a matrix. It was weird. It was like the slam tilt ball. That was correct, right? Wasn't that what it was? It was the slam tilt ball. That's what happens actually downstairs on the ball bowler. I have a sticky switch on the ball bowler. One of the connectors was not done right. What happens is if the switch is stuck, it won't reset the pins again, so it won't go to the next frame. In this instance, the roll tilt ball was stuck at the far end, instantly tilting the game as soon as you started it. Yep. So that was that issue. and then we had the most bizarre issue where the coils weren't working.
    21:54
    However, we measured voltage at the coil. You would think it would be dead, but instead we were getting 5 volts. Wow, that's weird. So we tested at the test point on the rectifier board, and we got... 43 volts.
    22:12
    We tested at the pin going into the connector. And guess who didn't accidentally touch the transformer? It was me. I did not do it. That's weird. What was it? Steph successfully did not touch anything that was electrified. We have wire?
    22:25
    No, we repinned it. It had already been repinned and looked perfectly fine, and I fixed it. Oh. But we can't tell why. That was a problem. Yeah, the pin looked perfectly fine, but we removed it, gripped a new pin on, and instant coils. Ta-da! And all the switches worked, and it pretty much worked. It was just a shop job. How's that right slingshot on that drive killer? It's probably nice and strong. Yeah, it's machine gunning. You need some adjustments. This is why AJF is talking about that, because he was watching the stream. The eject was so ridiculously overpowered. It could go like three inches in the air. Yeah, it would just go flying through the air. It's like a catapult. But Stern actually had an adjustment screw on the eject. You can adjust the height of the coil stop so that it can go in this. You can actually control the power. That was amazingly thoughtful and well-designed. Did they keep doing that or no? Actually, how many classic sterns have... well, this one doesn't have one. No, it doesn't have it. I don't even know. I don't think star does. So it has an adjustment? No, no, it has a kicker. It has a kicker, but I don't think it has an adjustment screw. I don't think it has either. I don't know about stars. I don't think stars does. So why... It doesn't have a hole. So why would you have a nice feature... You'd have to try a Stingray. If you have a nice adjustment... Or even pinball. Pinball would be a good chance. Find us a pinball version. I want a pinball. I want an EM pinball. I know, I would do two, actually.
    23:51
    Okay, is Countdown the best System 1 game, yes or no? Yes. There is none. What? Wow. Okay. Not even Countdown? Countdown's okay. It's not the best. What's the best System 1? None. One has to be the best. Why? None. Because Gottlieb? Yes. System 1. Even if you replace the new All-in-One boy that fixes all of your problems, I mean? It doesn't fix all the problems. Because you still have to do all the ground mods. You still do. You don't do the ground rules. Yeah, you still do in some ways. There's only one board. There can't be ground problems.
    24:24
    Okay. Countdown. Countdown is awesome. No. Yes. Countdown is definitely the best one. You can't play Countdown on any other System 1 game. What's the one with the cards? Joker Poker. Yeah. Fair enough. I would say for me it's the triumvirate of Joker Poker, Countdown, and Sinbad. No, Sinbad does not make it for me. Not at all. Well, it has Bad in the name. It is Bad. And Sin. And yeah, he's right. It's in a Bad. And you can watch the latest Papa tutorial on Sinbad.
    24:57
    You can watch Bowen play and it looks like an easy game. It looks controllable somehow. I don't know how that's possible. Well, with the UZ it's not. It's much easier.
    25:06
    And all your flippers are freshly rebuilt so you can actually bounce back off of them. Unlike pretty much every single system or game I've ever played anywhere. I'm looking forward to seeing if this bounce back now after doing stuff. Yeah, me too. He's pointing to the big game. For those who will listen to this after that. I did it wrong? I don't know what... No!
    25:24
    The left flipper on Dracula, after being fully rebuilt, does not bounce past. So we'll have to find out why. To be fair, I'm pretty sure I kind of did it. No, you guys ended up doing it because I couldn't get the flipper shaft in the bush. No, we just finished tightening it, but you could have messed up somewhere else.
    25:41
    Thanks, Zach. You could have... Wow. But he's probably right. She did do the whole job, minus that end point. Yeah, and I am incredibly inexperienced. So now we need to ask Zach, when's he going to bring over GammaTron? Well, we still have to fix it. I know. I guess you haven't played with it? It's on Steph's fix-it list. Is it? It is. Good. All right. What do you need me to fix? Well, Steph, you're around all week, I hear.
    26:05
    Yes. Yeah, the switchback could get you. these spinners register as drop titles so you got the and you just see the fact that you want to go
    26:19
    Didn't this game work previously? Yeah, I just turned it on one day and it didn't work anymore. Oh, great. P.I.A.s? Don't know. I haven't looked into it.
    26:29
    We need that here. Everyone needs a little bit of Gamertron. Steph's first Switch matrix issue. I don't even know how to start. You have the schematics, right? No, you don't even need it. Swap the PIA and you can go from there. See if it changes. That'd be the easiest way. I really doubt that's the issue, though, but it could technically fix it. What? The PIA is the I.O. chip.
    26:53
    And there's two of them on a battery. You change the U11. And this one is actually one that's on. One handles the switches, one handles the lights. So you can just swap them. And if your problem changes to a lamp issue, then you know you've a bad PIA. Yep. Would that be the first thing that you would do? Is there really any other news? Other than Expo? You're ending Metallica's runs. Yes, they are. That's significant to me because that's the game I freaking wanted. Luckily, they made a crap ton. They made a crap ton. You can buy mine.
    27:22
    Oh, we could have a sale take place right on the podcast. I know, see? Yes. You can take it home with you right now tonight. If only I could do an auction barker voice.
    27:34
    I don't have a car that can take that far. I do. We can put it around the roof. No, come on. We can just take it back. Let's just take it back. Leave it at his dad's house for a while.
    27:44
    Hey, your dad can assume town. Or just take it to my house, and then next time you're in the area, just pick it up. See? Look how this works so easily. I'd take it to Metallica. But I wouldn't want to take Metallica away from you.
    27:56
    Anything can be sold. Anything can be bought. No. Except for hammer trons. Nothing can be bought. nothing can be bought if it can't be sold. True. But, most games are out there. Yes, TurboGrafx, a live streamed slam tilt episode because our normal editor, who actually knows how to edit in a timely manner, will be going to Expo. He can't edit in a timely manner. I can't. I actually get a day off tomorrow. That's going to be really cool. I've actually got it off right now because everyone, they are running, let me see how the bar is. I don't know about some of our people, Tomorrow, a couple people upstairs playing pin. You could come by and play some pinball on stream. Tomorrow? Yeah. I could for a little bit. Do it. I will. I'll look at Gamertron. We'll look at Gamertron together. This is our game. Hello, Ryan from Wisconsin. I don't know where... If we have three people who already know how to fix it, and one person who doesn't, I think we might overpower the teaching opportunities. Maybe, maybe not. Wait, what are we fixing? Gamertron? Gamertron. Teach it before he comes over.
    29:00
    Well, then you won't need to fix it, will you? I don't know where I put my PIA so I've got to find it I've got like 40 of them I know, at that time when we bought that once that was a really good deal I thought that was CPUs I got a stack of those too Speaking of podcasts how's the Riptide Pinball podcast going? Crystal looked very pretty this past weekend she was very nice outfit Crystal will be at Expo I'll be talking to Crystal And she may ask me How's the podcast going? Well hopefully she won't have to Hopefully it'll just like Kind of pop up And everyone speeds We need to see a dual selfie From you two Yes we do In front of like The rarest game There Okay We can do that But yeah we need a podcast We need a podcast Wow Fear pressure This has rightfully been them For the past several weeks Yes it has Yeah But York Show. My present's coming to me. It should be in New York State about now. Which is what?
    30:12
    The one you guessed a couple weeks ago. About a month ago. A little long ago. That's the one... I know that one. I know you know that one. He said he'd give me $100 if I could guess it five guesses. No, it was 100 pesos. I don't remember what the award is, but you did guess it. I guessed it on like the fourth try, and then it just got dropped. Yes, it did. And then next week I was like, where's my money? It was the fifth try. I gave you 25. And by the way, it's Alien Star. Alien Star, yes. Ryan says we do need more podcasts. It's the only way I make it through work. That's fair. Just think, after you listen to this one, you can play it backwards. Yes. You're right.
    30:58
    Whatever he said, it's probably X-rated. do not listen at work but uh yeah so that should be pretty cool with uh so York they did stream or yeah they streamed the 62 what is it called bingo uh silver sails that thing was beautiful we mentioned last week so if you wanted to look see what a valley bingo looked like when it was new it was beautiful I'm surprised the paint held up really well I was surprised it was in a cardboard box didn't like in the 60s you used like stone tools no Stone tools, the 1960s. Chisels. You're thinking of the Flintstones from the 60s. I mean, I actually expected a wooden crate. No, no, it was all right. My dad bought a new-in-box Navy ship, the Loris. Well, the thing with the Navy ship was, don't forget, it was being shipped on heavy-duty crews, you know, being bounced around and all that, and it was more of a delicate matter machine. Well, no, it was made of, like, solid cast iron. But the inside stuff was more delicate. Actually, the inside comes in a separate box. Oh, my. Oh, bye. I don't get that one, but okay. Yeah, do I. Hear anything else about York? Oh, it was a good show I heard. My friend bought a couple machines. We're in there bringing them back with my machine. I heard there were some good-priced EMs. Yeah, there was some good-priced EMs.
    32:16
    How's your EM? Which one? The new one and the old one. Which new one? Well, Spanishize, I think I mentioned I fixed that. Spanishize, Spanishize. And then I talked to Zach to figure out why it takes this. And? Was he right on? To review, the issue is, you start a game, the thousandths reel would not move.
    32:38
    And the game would just, the relay, the score relay would just keep going. Specifically, it wouldn't reset to zero. It wouldn't reset to zero. Well, it wouldn't move at all. It didn't move at all. And the motor would keep spinning. But if you manually put the reel on zero, the game would start, and it would score normally. So it's still getting power, the clothes still work, everything. Chuck, is that score 24 to nothing?
    33:00
    Hang on. Oh, are you talking about the football game? Yes. Momentary hiatus, folks. Yes. So. The Snatch-O-Pockets will be right back after these messages. No. So, what we did, a wire came off one of the switches on the reel. So, it started back on and everything worked. My issue was, why? Why the break? In my view, okay, it needs to see everything at zero to start. So if it doesn't see a reel at zero, wouldn't it just keep... 24 to... To nine. To nine, wow. Wouldn't it just keep spinning the reel over and over and over? Thank you, Chuck. So then does that include me in that there's not just one, but there are two zero position switches? Ah. Proper terminology, five points.
    33:50
    Five point switches? Five points you got for trivia. You got a five-point question. You use the proper terminology. Congratulations. You get five points. Oh, cool. So what's the difference between... We did those on any pinball machine played this week.
    34:07
    What are the two zero positions? What's the difference? Why are there two zero position switches? One zero position switch tells the game to click that reel again. There's one of them per reel. and there's one set of zero-distance switches on all the wheels which combine when they're all at zero so it doesn't stop trying to reset the wheels.
    34:30
    And there you go. And the other person in the chat said that. Yeah, that the run-out switch forms the circuit that steps the wheels and opens at zero.
    34:43
    Cool. And I don't know what mistake Clark means. Mr. Clark. I don't get it. Prostator. What? Prospector. Yes, Prospector. I haven't really done anything with it. It's probably going to be a little while. Yeah? Because I'm going to finally shop out who done it. It's been two years. I've never shopped it out since I got it from you. Oh. I did a flip or rebuild, and I said I was going to shop it out and didn't, and we had to stop. I was like, I'll shop it out before the next stop. Didn't, because Dragon Fist got in the way. I love when Dragon Fist gets in the way. Dragon Fist no one's done for me. Dragon Fist almost done for me. Oh, you pulled a full Mylar? Nope. No, he didn't. Nope. We covered that on the podcast. We covered that in the podcast last week. So you need to listen to it. That was two weeks ago. I tried Centaur. That Centaur playfield I have with the Mylar on it? Oh, no.
    35:37
    It could be different depending on each playfield. I still need... I have like a three-inch patch of Mylar on the bottom of my Black Rose playfield between the flippers. I really want to take it off. I really don't want to have no paint between my flippers. Exactly. That's why I rather just deal with it. But there's no inserts or anything, so I feel like, and technically it was diamond plates, I feel like this is the best possible case to take it off. It's the only way to take it off, which I'm not going to do. I'm just going to wait until I find a new plate field. I agree. So, any day now. Any day now. I, the middle where it has the two spinners, it has too many posts. Broken? Mine has one. Broken? Yeah, it's not there, and it's like, please don't tell me to turn it off. Any day now. Pull my finger in there, metal, yep, sheared right off. So you know what you gotta do. Drill from underneath. Yep. Again. Rhyme. Again. We did it. Easy. Yeah. That sounds terrifying, are you kidding? It's absolutely horrible. Yeah, you gotta drill. Did I do it? You gotta drill around it. Did it work? After like three hours. Yeah. Did it work? Yeah. So far, until the fact that it's less than half the wood left. But it's right there. That one's not in direct line of fire. So what I'm gonna do after I drill it out, which is gonna suck, I am going to, you know, to replace it with a basically machine screw through hole so that even if it does shear off you can literally just tighten the lock nut on the other end and it would come out. So that's what I'm gonna do with that. I really haven't done any other repairs. Sounds like we have more repairs coming this week. I don't know what else we did here. I moved the game so now all 26 games are upstairs. 26 games? Did you think this game was going to be like 16? Originally I planned on 13. That's why I doubled it. Good.
    37:25
    And eventually I want to take out I'm probably going to take out Whitewater. I'm down. And bring in either Hot Doggin, Meteor, or Dragon Fist. Oh good, you didn't say the game I would have cried about. If you bring in Sea Witch and it's like, I'm not here, I'm going to cry. I didn't do well here. I don't really want to play your Sea Witch. Now, doesn't someone here actually own a Sea Witch? I think three of us do.
    37:54
    Loser. Get a Sea Witch. I'm not with you. You know, you just get a Beatles. It's not worth the space. You get a Beatles. Oh, dear. Honestly, the only reason why I got the second one, and I sold you the one I got, Steph, because it was cheap. I actually, the game does nothing for me. I sold it to him. I sold it to you. Yeah. That's okay. I mean, that's not okay. Smack yourself.
    38:19
    Did you say Beatles? Beatles. It's just a, it's a juice. It's only a bubble. So more and more rumors now. I can do karaoke for you, Jeff. Oh, boy. Yeah. We did that yesterday. We have Ron on tape doing karaoke. On tape? What's tape? Like Memorex. We have it on video. I haven't seen it yet. I know. Kathy's going to post it tomorrow. Oh, God. I know you saw it. Bruce's singing voice is completely different than his talking voice. Oh, my God. This one's a crooner. Me and Zach had the same reaction. It's like, who's singing? Because we saw Bruce up there. All three of us. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, looking all around. You go from being 200% New Jersey to this crooner. It's like, what just happened? Luckily, it was caught on video. Yes, I know. I posted on the Silver Bowl Saloon page, and we're going to post both tomorrow on the Slam Tilt Podcast page and Ron Furst's page. Thank goodness I didn't say. Why not? You can come back. She might exist on the Internet if you did that. I know. You've got to stop that from happening. You would hear me singing terribly on TV. You're on this right now, so guess what? Everyone knows who you are now. They kind of know anyway. They're on Thread. No, you don't, but they've never seen you. I'd love to hear it sometime.
    39:43
    But she's been on streams on this very channel. I've been on streams on Tammy's channel. But this is world famous. And Zach's channel, and her own channel. This is world famous. Follow her on Pinball Princess on Twitch.
    39:55
    Like Jim Neighbors? Look, go to the Silver Ball Saloon and check out the video. Ron, sing Gene. Sing as Gene. I can't sing as Gene. His singing voice is not even close to how he talks. Like Bruce. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Christine. Yeah. 16.
    40:18
    My God, Bruce, that's terrible. You drive me crazy. Yeah. I want to give her what I got. Gene does not sing like this. He's got this raspy voice when he sings. Hello, Ryan C. Oh, no. It's Ryan C. Good day. It is good day, Brian. It is 10 hours, so it would be... It's early in the morning.
    40:41
    Early in the morning. No, it's late in the morning. It's 14 hours, right? Yeah, it's more like 14 hours. So that's 11. It's 11, 12, 5. 45, so it's almost noon. That's very early. And he says, Jeff, you suck. Jeff, you suck, yes. So, Ryan, since you call Bruce all the time for Tech Help anyway, here's your chance to just ask it right live on the stream. Well, we know we don't need Jeff. Jeff won't ask us a question because he won't be able to fix it anyway.
    41:06
    He's admitted that. He is too thumb when it comes to repairs. We love you, Jeff. Mr. Teolis? Yeah, Mr. Teolis. Oh, Jeff Teolis, your Gene Simmons is far superior. It is.
    41:21
    Yes, Ryan, what's your question? Go caller, we have you on the line. I think he just wants to say your name. I put Sea Witch on 220 volts.
    41:30
    Where's he at? Because Australia. Australia is 220. Instead of 110. It's really good now. Super strong. What was it at before? 110? Yeah. That's why it was so weak. I mean, all the voltage is coming out. Is that a bad idea? All the voltage is coming out of the rectifier board, correct. Yeah, if the rectifier board's putting out the right proper voltage, then we're fine. If it's not, then you might want to go down to 190 maybe. Oh yeah, so he has sort of high tapped it. Australia's 240.
    42:00
    Okay, so it's next 3%. Yeah, I wouldn't high-tap a solid state, personally. Yeah, neither would I. You've upped the voltage of the splays now, although that is adjustable on the board, and you've also upped the voltage to... The coils. Well, not the coils. It's fine. You're just high-tapping it. But, like, you've upped the voltage to the logic and everything. And CPU. Which, if your voltage regulator is weak, then that's fine. But, like, if your 5V is 5.5, I'd be worried. Well, measure off the driver board and also measure off the rectifier board. to make sure. That'd be your two things you want to make sure of. And everyone wants an extra 8%. That's what he said. All right. And adjust your display voltage down to 170. Yeah, bring your voltage down for the display. It's definitely at 170. It's probably nice and bright right now. He will do some measurements. And don't electrocute yourself while you're doing it. Ryan's pretty good. Well, 220 volts, though. Oh, no, not 220. That's what they're used to. No, 180 volts DC coming out of the displays. I know. so it just jingles a little bit. Yeah, that's true. It won't actually kill you. No, I'm okay. It'll also make you lose a few hairs. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's what happened to me.
    43:09
    Are you ready for the mail ball bag? Oh, I haven't even looked this week, so this is going to be all good. I mean, it seems like it's emptying all over our stream the entire time. Yeah.
    43:17
    Yeah. Okay. Wow, Zach with a funny. So, we have an email from Zach from the Straight Down the Middle show. Oh, boy. This has been a fantastic episode with Teolis. Damn, guys, I forgot Face Off was the name of your segment. That's my fault. I have heard of your Face Off battle, so I should have known better. If it makes it any better, our Face Off is best of three video gameplay battle. So totally different format. Unlike Head to Head, which steals everything, delivers it worse, and names it something stupid. Yep. And there's just a bunch of criminals. Yeah. Ryan sees right on. I know. Exactly. Keep up the good work, even if I want to pull my hair out listening to Bruce's crappy takes.
    44:04
    Crappy takes? Fair enough. Oh, my God. Did you get a look on his face? We love it, though, Bruce. Crappy takes. Even if you're wrong most of the time. I'm not wrong most of the time. And we know how wrong straight down the middle guys are with the... Total nuclear annihilation's great. No, it's not. But don't they like Houdini? It's meddling. Yeah, they like Houdini. And wait, wait, wait. And he buys these new games and sells them right away, too. You know, that's kind of... Well, most of them are suck. I like Deadpool.
    44:29
    I need more time on it, but I like it. I mean, you need more time to have complete code. True, which I'm surprised it hasn't been coming out once every couple weeks. All right, we have an email from Soren. Hey. Hi, Soren. Hi, I just remembered the poor fellow with the Flash Gordon game that was flickering the bonus indicators. Remember him? Yes, that was Mike Dimas. Yep. Mike Dimas, you need to trade me a piece of toast and another game and maybe a little jingle jingle for my Black Spider-Man. I'll take the flash cord. Piece of toast for those at home is... Toast. Is catacomb from Stern. They must know that by now. Yeah, exactly. We talk about it so much. We could have a new listener. This could be the first episode. I'm sorry. Freaking guy.
    45:13
    All right, now that he told which lamps it was, very handy information indeed, I had a go at it. Interestingly, all four are controlled from an index zero output of a lamp for decoder A.
    45:25
    Thank you, sir. A zero out on these babies is the input pattern constituting the maximum sink current from the lamp board to the PIA on the MPU board. Tells me something about bad connectors or high current lamps not flowing the optimal paths.
    45:41
    Go ahead. It starts at a zero out. Go ahead. And while we're doing this, let's talk about some of our sponsors that we don't get paid for. yes we have pinball star joe newhart use it for all your non-stern pinball needs and we have mike koopa flipper fidelity improving sound systems for your games and he also is a stern distributor and we're getting it out of the way now yes hi zach oh hi steve hi if i'm a bonus yes us in the um riptide podcast any any day now she's right here yes i'm trying to understand a I can't understand. I can't understand it either. I'm going to be so lost in this next thought episode. He's saying the signal is getting bounced around and it's not getting a strong signal from one. I misunderstood what he said at first, but technically he's right. Oh my goodness. Technically he's right. He is technically right, but I don't know. There are four address lines going from the MPU to Lamport. Why is Ryan screaming about LEDs? Because he knows Bruce hates LEDs. Does it bother Bruce? No, he wants us to plug him.
    46:53
    Oh, my. I would troubleshoot with alligators. Oh, that sounds... Alligator. Alligator clips. Beefing up supply, ground, and signal connections. See what happens. If this is the issue, there might be a simple trick to do instead of going through half-rotten connectors, connector pins, and solder joints. It's got to be a connector pin because he's replaced every board. The aux lamp driver board does not have a ground plane connection to the rest of the game, does it? Make one and brush shine the ground plane connections on the rest of the boards and metal mounts Make sure every screw is in that's a good everything suggests that the five volt is generally fine. No CPU resets reported By the way, I would rank Gilligan's Island over the following WPCs is tremendously fun to play you should see how popular it is at our spot Bruce You should get one for your first Gilligan's Island You should get a Gilligan's Island for her.
    47:53
    You look confused. No. No? You just look confused. Okay. According to story, the following games are worse than Gilligan's Island. Okay. Let's see. Bride of Pinbot. Yes. No. It's worse than Gilligan's Island? Yes. No. That's a hard one. Yes. The gameplay is shallow, but the heartbeat, the whole presentation alone. It has very good sound, but I'd probably rather play Gilligan's Island, like, once occasionally. I never want to play Bride of Pinbot. Okay. Harley-Davidson. Which one? The loop to ride. The bicycle loop. Harley-Davidson. Not the cool one. The fantastic one. Then Gilligan's Island. Worse, he's saying? He's saying it's worse. No, he'd rather play Gilligan's Island than Harley-Davidson. No, Harley-Davidson. No, Harley-Davidson he'd rather play. He's talking about the one that was at fantastic. So the Valley. The Valley. That's WPC. He's saying he'd rather play Gilligan's Island than that. Yeah, I agree. Party Zone. I agree. We know Scott. No, I'd play Party Zone. Especially with the mod from California. Yeah. He's got you. Hurricane. Oh, definitely. God.
    48:58
    Hurricane sucks. Everyone hates Hurricane. You played it at Skeeler's. I know you did. He's been to Keeler's? Yes, he has been to Keeler's. He was a killer. You were there once. Oh, Rock Fantasy. It was at Rock Fantasy. I didn't see one there. Yeah, there's one there. I know you didn't play it. It's in the shed. It's in the shed now? Everything's in that corner there. Everyone's in the corner. The Champion Pong. Oh, no. I love Jamf Pup. Jump up, jump up, jump up. What I love about it is the ramps that come up and down so you can do the knockout. It's cool the first couple times you play it, and then you just keep on fighting the same thing over and over again. I love it. Corvette.
    49:35
    Yeah, I'd take Gilligan's Island over Corvette. Yeah, Corvette sucks. You'd rather play Gilligan's Island than Corvette. Corvette's probably one of the worst games ever. It is one of the worst security system games. Disagree. Oh, God. Oh, God. I'm going to skip the next one and leave it for last. Popeye. Popeye?
    49:52
    I'd rather play Gilligan. See, I haven't played Popeye as much, so I would rather play it for like five more times than I get tired and go back to Gilligan. I just realized I've had Popeye's Playfield with Gilligan's Island as the name, but I'm actually thinking of Popeye, because Popeye is the stupid animal thing on the side, right?
    50:08
    Yeah, they had that down by me. It's R. It's E. Hi, Crystal. Crystal loves the round table talk show. Shout out to Crystal. Why Blue Continental? Billy Joel.
    50:18
    Joe, have a good night. Thank you for coming out. But it's still rock and roll to me. It's one of the lyrics. Baby Blue Continental, hot funk, cool punk, even if it's old junk, it's still rock and roll to me. That's why I would roll your trivia. I like guitar!
    50:35
    Just a smidgen tailing Judge Dredd would be ahead on a good deck. Ahead of? So Judge Dredd ahead of Gilligan's Island? No. Having actually played a properly functioning Judge Dredd, my opinion of it shot up dramatically. Really?
    50:53
    It's got great shots. When it comes down from the right ramp to the right in lane, you can actually flip it on the fly into the center shot for the jackpot. Yeah. So you just do a combo into there. It's dope. I'd rather play it. The music, though. Yeah, the music's terrible. No, Judge Dredd. It just doesn't do it. That's the best. That's the best thing. Some of the best music in any WC game.
    51:14
    No, no, no. I need Anthrax. I need somebody to put Anthrax on it. I am the law. You will fuck around no more. It is the final game that he says. Oh, no. That Gilligan's Island is better than this. Black Rose. What? No. The best WPC, one of the worst WPCs? Yeah. I think you're totally wrong, sorry. Black Rose is awesome. Sorry. Incorrect. You'll have to play some Black Rose if you come over tomorrow. All right, we'll have to. I love the games, and I've owned two of them. That was super steep. It was nice and faster. We won pinball playing a ton of that. That's when you bought the one of them. Yes. We won so many games on it, Bruce had to buy it. Yeah. Polly. Kill Polly. Chuck says that Gilkin's Island sucks bad. I almost said sucks wicked bad by accident. And then great music. Horrible, horrible, multiple music. Yeah. I can never hear it over all the jackpots.
    52:14
    It is kind of that. It's not as cool as the main theme. No, I would just replace that with Anthrax and it would be good.
    52:23
    Robert Byers Oh no Here I send to Jeff Bruce and Ron like it when I fill up their inbox Oh my That it I feel like I should contribute. Should I write something on my phone right now? I will say we are very happy that we get a lot of emails lately. This has been really cool. This is like more emails than I've heard in the past month. Oh, it's been really good. Ryan C., would you buy that? Uh-oh. He gave us the link, which this is going to be difficult here, but... Pass it around. Take one down. Pass it around. Ryan's here. Okay, the listing has just ended. Oh, no, it's another Magic Pinball Hall again by Stern. So it ended up going for Aussie $1,851. I think he bought it. Did you buy that, Ryan? I hope you didn't. I think you did. I made fun of him, telling him, no. He goes, really? Is it that bad? I'm like, yes. We gots to know. I don't have the code here, unfortunately. They'll tell us. Yeah, I do. Here we go. Yeah, the number is 202-456-971-812.
    53:35
    Well, here's the thing. It says Magic Pinball by Stern, but then item description, no fear pinball machine in excellent condition. No fear. It's sold with a 30-day back. He did. Ryan did buy it. With a 30-day back-to-base warranty. Why does it have the item description as No Fear Pinball? You got $100 off during some eBay promotion. So, $1,800 Australians. What, $300 US?
    54:01
    Australia is weird. Why does it say No Fear in the description? So, did you get a No Fear or a Magic? Oh, it's 15 minutes away and he's picking it up in 30 minutes. Oh!
    54:12
    So, in an hour, he'll see how bad it is and go, Why did I pay this much money? I'll kick it on the curb and go get a black rose. I told him it was good for parts. I told him it was good for parts because you've got a rectifier board and all the boards in it. That's worth some money.
    54:25
    I know of a magic head just sitting around waiting to be scratched his head. Okay, last email. What? Stars Tech.
    54:36
    This is from Harry Jackson. Please, he had the Stars issue. What's the Stars issue? The knockers. Please refresh us. Oh, because Zach is behind. Way behind. Basically, whenever the chimes should go off, the knocker goes off instead. And all of the coils work fine? Supposedly. $1,278 he paid for magic.
    54:58
    So, hey guys. Just wanted to thank you for all of your time you spent diagnosing my stars and knockers a couple weeks back. Also wanted to thank all the listeners who wrote in with tips, including the one. I have been out of town, so I have not had a chance to get started on repairs, but now I have a list of things to try out. I had a chance to visit the Pinball Hall of Fame in Las Vegas. My only complaint is no stars. Oh, that's a foul right there. Great collection otherwise, but stars definitely deserves a spot. And stop dropping the mustard. I like dropping the mustard. Because that would be really loud on the screen. Did you guys hear about them announcing a Pinball Hall of Fame in Chicago? No, they're not. The announcement went out, you know, like, press release.
    55:36
    There's going to be another Pinball Hall of Fame, apparently. Wow, how can you have two Pinball Hall of Fames? Is this like an East and West maybe thing? We have an email from Pinball Princess. Wow. Haven't heard from her in a while. How did that happen? I don't know. Who is that? I know. We haven't heard from her in a while. Do we even read this thing? I'm sure it's like 10,000 words. I don't know if she's working anymore. Wait. One more email. Wait. Dear Ron and Bruce, it seems like ages since I penned a letter and sent it in for general direction, which honest to goodness just auto-corrected to genital direction. Oh my. You're welcome. That was why I just had to double over about five minutes ago. I just wanted to say that.
    56:15
    The Soap Bowl Saloon is awesome, and you guys are awesome! High five, guys. Hi, Zach. Totally not writing from five feet away. Not even. Player 31915. Crystal is going to get a job at the Pinball Hall of Fame now in Chicago. That'd be fun.
    56:36
    Also, shout out to Crystal, my host for the Ripped Pinball Podcast. New episode coming out any day. Any day now. Uploading as we speak. I know where it is. I know the laptop it's on. Yeah, but I think we just need to do it. You know it's open on that laptop right now. Yes, actually. Whenever you go to a laptop, literally, it's just open. It's permanently open. I thought it was a screenshot of just audacity. No, it's a literal file. Just on the screen like a wallpaper. Look at the great lock screen background. I think it's a wallpaper. It's a reminder.
    57:07
    How good is Lord of the Rings? I can tell exactly what is going on from the sounds. You cannot say that about new games like Deadpool, which I agree. One!
    57:17
    That's true, Ryan. There's at least one good game of Lord of the Rings, and it's probably the sound effects. No, that game rocks. That game rocks. That's why it's here.
    57:27
    What does that thing call Lord of the Rings? Ron had a great question yesterday about that. He goes, how do I click more of here?
    57:34
    Yeah, the stupid things on the inserts that I open. Look, look. You have to understand. No, I... Okay, hold on. Okay. I understand that these things...
    57:45
    A shot. It's a shot. ...on the playfield. So I'm literally... I have the thing... What was it called again? The poor man. Yeah, it's sitting there flashing at me, so I'm, like, I'm looking at every shot, like, well, there's that one, there's that one. Who the fuck is this stupid poor... I literally cannot find it anywhere on the playfield. It's in there. It's on the playfield. Yeah, where? By the pop-up? Yes. Right about... Yeah! I'm not looking up there. I'm looking for a shot. Actually, another thing I got to compliment both of these on is, like, The only game where I've actually felt like looking at a map, just growing up trying to find where the hell the damn Boromir name is. See? That is great. See, when I actually had an arcade, like a stone's throw from me, which was a brilliant year,
    58:21
    there was a Lord of the Rings there, and so I learned the rules pretty well, and while it can be a bit of a grind if you're going for points,
    58:32
    going to get all of the multiballs and going for Destroy the Ring is super fun. I got one shot away. The ring shot didn't register on the one that we had all the time. Where would that be?
    58:47
    It was not what you think it was. Rock Fantasy is awesome. Come on. I think I've told this story before.
    58:54
    Two different Lord of the Rings I got to destroy the ring and both malfunctioned. It happens. It is happening.
    59:02
    The worst was the second time because it was at MGM Grand in Vegas. And they have one and actually played fine except for the spinner except well Except I get to the destroy the ring and it's doing the two ball one So like it holds the first one holds the ball in the ring. I get the second ball like okay It's pretty oddly. I'm supposed to hit I hit it the one switch that Detects when it drops down behind the panel didn't work So you never so I literally kept hitting I lock it up hit lock it you just go through and I never could finish it I was so pissed off and you're in a log can you're screwed. Yep totally screwed. And you just hear like, please, help me, over and over and you can't do anything. Yeah. It's so frustrating. So you guys are holding a judgment on Depp, right?
    59:50
    Yeah, it's not even done yet. Do you guys have one in the area? What? Depp. Yes, we have two. One of our, my customers has a Pro and one of our customers has a Elite. Wow. Yeah. Keeler has the Pro, so I haven't put that much time on it. No, I haven't either. I look like a poor buggy. And it's located at the World Famous Rock Fantasy in Middletown, New York, or it's at half the bar that's... 75 East Main Street in Middletown, New York. Is it East Main Street? Yeah. So, wait a minute. Aren't you East Main Street? West.
    60:28
    World Famous Rock Fantasy as seen on my sweatshirt. You may not be able to see it no matter how I think about it. Did you buy a shirt from here yet?
    60:38
    No. I have small, medium, and larges now. You finally have smalls? Yep. Jeez, because last time you only had like adult larges. I got them. All right. Yes, I would love to buy a shirt from here. And a v-neck too. I actually got a little v-neck. I can use a t-shirt t-shirt. I don't care. Either way.
    60:57
    Kristen says we're going to have to do a time warp gimmick to introduce our episode. Yes. so everything's outdated in this show oh that's a great review of Pimberg which just happened practically I got paid for it finally if you just forget about this episode so it did just happen I finally got paid for it you got paid for it so did you I didn't actually check if I got money in my bank account or not you did I sort of assumed you did you have my bank account number yes I do it's called one two three four five that's amazing It's the same password as my Wi-Fi. Yes, same password as my free pass.
    61:36
    It's the same password I have in my luggage. Yes, my luggage. It's the same password I have in this laptop right here. Yes. Mine too. I don't know about any sports ball talk. Well, I mean, I don't think in the post-Binberg we did any sports ball talk anyway. And we've already done sports ball right now. You mentioned the Patriots game. The Yankees gave me a major sad. The Red Sox are not dying. They're coming out strong. No, Chuck, let's go on a Fox-Sox game, buddy. The Patriots are happening.
    62:03
    Why are they happening? The Giants are... It's still 24, but I think now it's either 19 or 16. So what's the scoreboard, Chuck? The Giants suck so bad. But the Jets won today. J-E-T-S, Jets. 3-3. We're 3-3.
    62:19
    We're 3-3. I love that. Yes. What do you think of that, Zach? The whole sports mentality where fans say, like, we. Like they're a member of the team. I never understand that. It's much less a trip to almost all their athletes. 24-16. It's like, we... How about the Sox, Chuck? They would leave if they could go to another city and make more money. They don't care about you, the fan.
    62:40
    Okay, there's a question for you, Chuck Webster. Oh, yes, Chuck. It's 24-16 with 12 minutes left in the third quarter. Okay, the question is for you.
    62:52
    I don't know what I use. Yeah, why don't you read it? Okay, how do you get the smell out of a machine that's been on location forever? I've opened up my Nugent, and I still can smell incense from Rock Fantasy. Yeah, because that was the Nugent that was... So I actually use those odor eater things that you actually... On a canister, you get at the dollar store, and you get that dollar general. I actually threw one in this. It was pretty bad. Must be. Smells like a dream now. Eats all the odors out. If you can't get it out that way, dryer sheets are one good thing. I also heard ozone generators when I got my Harlem that was filled with rat's nests I just took everything out of the body and then just rolled it down my yard a while I can fight that I can definitely Zach can I can fight that you're welcome yeah we leave it to you run goodbye It was just side sheets. Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben. I'm waiting for it. I love this. I love it. The tech talk, even though I'm so completely lost half the time.
    64:09
    Even now. It's depressing. Well, Steph, I mean, today you what? You rebuilt pop bumpers. I sort of rebuilt a flipper. I sort of rebuilt some pop bumpers. Cover you fools.
    64:24
    What else did we do? Did we do much else? I mean... What did you wake up at? 12 o'clock, guys? Or 2 o'clock? Well, they do. How did you sleep up earlier? You woke up at 9 this morning? That is early for you. Yeah. And then it woke me up. And then I didn't want to get out of bed because beds are comfy. I woke up at 8 and I got in at 3.30. Yeah. No. I'm the old guy. I wake up earlier than they do. Did you have your cup of coffee and sit there reading a newspaper? I don't need as much sleep. Wait until I start editing before I go to sleep. Then it's going to be like 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Is Stephanie awake? Why did Chris Grenier leave pinball?
    65:03
    I don't know. I wish he didn't. That music is the best. Oh. I think he was on one of the, he was on a podcast, or I thought he was. Yeah. Where he basically, right after he left. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. So seek that out. I think it's, is it a TopCast? It might be. It might be a TopCast. So just look up TopCast and Chris Grenier. I think he even says, why won't Ryan see the pinball? Aww. Wow.
    65:33
    Mr. Teolis. Yeah, Teolis with the, oh, man. Burn, baby, burn. Just go and burn up. That's pretty mean, Jeff. Speaking of Jeff, that reminds me of poutine.
    65:45
    Oh, God. Jeff, can you mail us some poutine? Please. Jeff, we need some poutine. You're so close, you can just go grab it and come back. He doesn't have a passport. You don't have a passport? I don't have a passport. You have a passport? I brought it with me. Wow, good girl. I am prepared.
    66:00
    And do you have a passport? I have a passport. And so do I. Of course you do. Because I want petite. You used to travel all the time. No, I had to get a new one. I didn't travel in two years. I keep my update even though I don't plan on it. Exactly. Just because it's good to have it. It's been two years since that weird Santa episode where you were in the Netherlands. Yes. That was so good. Like Naked Parade or something? Yeah. No, that was four years ago. I was in that parade. Because there was somewhere where you were in that parade. But that was two years ago when we did the, what's his name one? Trump.
    66:26
    It was an election, you know. Oh, when you predicted the election because you were ahead of time. I was ahead of time. I told you. Yeah.
    66:34
    Yeah. Was that when that was? It's looking like... Gravy on the way. So I need to get a passport. Yes, you do. Yes, and... Even if I don't use it. Two months ago. Ron failed.
    66:47
    You could get an enhanced license from the state of New York. No, too late. I just renewed it. you can still get an enhanced license from the state of New York, and you can go to Mexico and Canada. If I was going to do that, I would just go all out if I was going to do that. I agree. I just get the passport. I just renew mine. But the thing is, on the application, it says, like, why are you getting this? I've even been convicted. No.
    67:13
    Like, what date are you traveling to this? It's like, well, I'm not really. I don't know. Come visit us. Everyone wants you to visit, Ron. what canada is it canada no i wasn't i don't know who that is or is it australia are we doing a world tour australia might that flight would kill me i've been you've been everywhere bruce i've done a 24-hour flight and only had three hours in between that bruce bruce flew to where do you fly south africa just to get points i flew from new york from rochester to new york city new york city to Amsterdam stayed over in Amsterdam one night then flew all the way down to South Africa and then flew three hours later through all the way back up to Amsterdam and then flew all the way from Amsterdam to New York City Newark LaGuardia or JFK JFK yeah why did you go to South Africa there was only $400 a flight and it got me 24,000 miles so enough to get my status for another year to get free upgrades when I was in domestic flight there's the guy who's thinking it was nice because I used to fly all the time from California from New York to California and I hate to be stuck to coach first class is so much nicer when you're sitting there going I'll have my free soda every time I want I've only ever flown coach because I've only flown like 4 or 5 times in my life I've flown more but I've never flown any other coach if you come to Australia we'll hold the Ron Hallett Ron Haley invitation on a Hallett With his accent, Ron would blend right in. In your honor. As long as there's no huntsman spiders. Oh, there's some big animals there. You would not like it at all there. Yeah, Australia doesn't look like a good place. No, Australia, they have to put all the garbage down there. Most dangerous animals. Exactly. The animals aren't fit to be a good place. As soon as I get over my arachnophobia, I know that the huntsman spiders are good. But it's only a... Ryan, how long is the flight from Australia to California?
    69:11
    I don't know that I think it's like 15 or 14 hours they have right now there's a direct flight from Singapore to Newark and it's 18 and a half hours direct yeah I mean don't we fly that long how long was that Huntsman's fighters are fine they keep to themselves magpie on the other hand are freaking brutal birds? I don't know and Jeff wants to know what do you think is Deadpool What do you think of Deadpool? I know we're reserving judgment, but... I'm reserving judgment. I think the play field is too cramped.
    69:51
    Okay. Alright. Okay, I can see that. Some of the shots are really close, and it feels like they brick a ton.
    69:59
    Like, you go partway up the shot, like, you think you made it, and then the ball just, like, stops and just sort of dribbles back out really slow. You just have to wait for it. Especially the one shot. The main shot. The main gimmick. Oh, and the shop to the right of the left ramp, that little loop-around thing, that never works. Okay, so I have a question for you. How was your flight to California from Albany? Is that painful for you enough, or is it bearable?
    70:25
    I haven't taken one in a while. Okay, when you did the California extreme. It's okay. That's six or seven hours? It's six hours. It's hours. So imagine from, then you have to stop in California, get on another flight, and then another 14. No. Or you can maybe stop in Hawaii and do a stopover there. Go to Japan. Japan would be cool. I love Japan. Yeah. Come with me, please. I'd love to go to Japan. Let's do it. Let's go. I need to go back. I'd love to go to Japan. Can't. Then let's go.
    70:57
    It's cold. The bar. Figure it out. So stick the bar on a plane and let's go. Stick the bar on a plane.
    71:06
    Steph, are you bummed that New Beatles is apparently sea witch? No comment. Please become positive. Says Jeff.
    71:15
    What do you think, Seth? It's been a hard day's night. And I've been sea witching all night long. I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope that rumor isn't true.
    71:32
    And when I get home, do you? It's been reported in multiple circles. I know. Let's see what they did. I mean, they're going to modify it in some way, but... Where will they put the ramp? That's the real question. So you're insisting there's going to be a ramp? I think there's going to be a lift ramp. There's going to be two lift ramps. You've got to keep that scooping loop.
    71:52
    I would expect the ramp would be between the middle drops and the right loop, and there's going to be the drop targets behind them. Yeah, that's not going to happen. Please God, no. Maybe have a little scoop loop instead of the lift targets. Jeff is just saying it is. It is, but... It is the wheels. Oh, I know. I know that, but she's just... Unless it's going to be like a super elite, there's no way Star is putting three sets of drop targets in the game. What about the pricing they set for it? Oh, crack, right. What was it again? It was like... 10, 15... 50. 50 was like a super elite. That was some of the stupid ones.
    72:25
    Well, that's what they said on Head to Head. Head to Head always checks their sources, right? Head to Head always verifies their sources like a triplicate first before reporting anything. You couldn't ask him. He's right there. He might be picking up his game at this point.
    72:41
    15K. They could probably afford three gold target sets. For a Sea Witch? 15K for which model? There's supposed to be like three models. You're supposed to move like the decimal point to the left one. Like 1.5K, yes. Jeff, is that Canadian or US?
    73:01
    Actually, Steph, cover your ears. The three versions are supposed to be like gold. Platinum. No, it's diamond. Gold, diamond, and platinum versions. Well, it's actually the other way around. Gold, platinum, and then diamond. Diamond is the highest. Diamond is the highest, yes. So those are the three models. Okay, you're good. Boy, that stars looks really nice. What? Hi. Yeah.
    73:23
    Steph wants a pin break. What? Steph wants a pin break. US? I always want a pin break. Yeah, that's true. Buying a Stern Magic, I think it's a good buy. Oh, Jeff, you're just not the one Jeff, fail Jeff, you bought a Simpsons You don't get to say things Exactly Am I the only one who agrees? It's very nice of you to take a fall for Bruce I wish I could get that back and put it here Yeah, that's true That would be good here I have to play that every week now It's a free game I played it this week and I wasn't even there Amazing I was told I killed in the league again Really? Yeah, 26 points. I had 28 undefeated last week. This week I got 26 somehow. I wasn't even there.
    74:10
    He's just that good. Well, I played ahead, and I can't believe any of the scores held up at all because they were not good. Because literally I played them first. I hadn't played any of the games. I did no practice, and I did it before we started. And then I played the actual league, the first league, like week one. My first set of scores sucked. I don't know how any of them got up. So what scores did you get? on what games. Okay. You know what? I can tell you exactly what I got. Wow, we're actually getting data. Yes, you're going to get data. The only reason I have these pictures is because I have to send them in. I thought Zach was referring about Data East and I don't know how to fit. No, that's actually worse. I've only played Data East once and it was at the Strong Museum and the first shot I made airballed and got the ball stuck. So it was a bit better than Pinball Party, but not much. I don't like the Data East version of Simpsons because there's only like nine sound clips and don't have a cow game. Don't have a cow game. Ramp. When that's next to the Flintstones, you'll be begging for a second. Oh, that's great. That's right. It doesn't even have Krusty in it. I'll play some Flintstones. I don't think so. Watch me.
    75:16
    As long as I'm not okay, let's play for sure. All right, Zach. I had 13,463,260 since this pinball party. That sucks. It does. 16,286,510. That sucks, too. Thank you. Then Twilight Zone, I had $577,238,000. That's average. And then the second game, I had $162,744,807. That really sucks. Yeah. So I don't know how some of these help.
    75:52
    Any more questions, folks? Just hearing how bad Jeff plays pinball. Well, Jeff, at least you got to play an Adams fan. Read what he said. Remember, no one's going to be able to know what it's that. I played Monster Bash last night, got Monster Bash, ball one, on fire. Next game was Adam's Family. Didn't hit one chair, six million, fail. Jeff, I'm glad you got to play at least one good game. I'm sorry about the Monster Bash, though. No, totally 180 on that one, Bobby. I'll be happy to never even see a Monster Bash ever again, but I know it's not going to happen because they're coming out soon. Yes, they are. I'd rather not see an Adam's Family. Unless there's new code, which fixes it. Could be good.
    76:29
    Wow. What the hell is Lady Death? Is that a re-theme of Mata Hari? Something like that. I'd rather go commit Harry Carey to play Lady Death. Or Mata Hari. Yeah, I agree. I'd be happy to never see Mata Hari. I'd rather play a Viking.
    76:47
    So what's wrong, Mata Hari? Well, it's Viking, but without a spinner. Yeah. Without spinner fun and without that shot, you'll do a little shot that you can go up and get the uphold. But Mata Hari doesn't have a key. Exactly. Point taken. Viking's a superior game. And here's where people play. It's just the hole, the hole, the hole, the hole. And Mata Hari doesn't have the bounce it in thing that Viking has. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Give us your tech question, caller. Yes.
    77:18
    First deck will game up by a long shot. We'll let our crackpot team fix your problem. Crackpot team. Jeff, even like Funhaus in 1990, like eight years earlier, could stack modes. Come on.
    77:36
    Probably been even earlier than that. What, you could stack modes like Mr. Bash? Yeah, but here's the thing. Is that one of the first ones? No.
    77:44
    Is that our stumper? Oh, do lights, camera, action have modes? Yes. You can't stack them. That's good.
    77:53
    But other modes. So it's better than Adam's family. Yes. did you actually want to finish any of the modes on this game rack? did it matter?
    78:04
    points wise yes you get the loop shot and you want to hit the drop targets for the other thing you do need some of them playing a lot of guardians now it makes me appreciate more actually finishing modes to progress in the game imagine if more games actually cared at all unlike just guardians, game of thrones and star wars that's it sadly Jeff called in and with his question on Funhaus saying Funhaus equals Shithouse it's got Rudy did you buy a Funhaus Zach what didn you just get a Funhaus I had one ok Rudy like the coolest animatronic head ever Crystal says the left flipper of our whitewater is not holding The contact on the hold contact is fine. The contact on the hold contact. Of course, it's not left broken. I cleaned the off-gold strip to see if it was all fine. That is a fliptonic, I assume, Bruce? Yes, it is. And does it have... No, no, it's not. No, it's not? No, it's actually on the board.
    79:06
    It's like getaway. The first game that had fliptronics was Addict Family. And that's a fliptronics one. So if there's no fliptronics, then there's no transitions to check, Chris. Wait, wait, wait. Whitewater? Yes. Whitewater's fliptronics. Is it? Yes. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we have a whitewater right there. Zach, you have to play it. I don't want to interrupt the guy playing the game next to it. Yeah, that's true. Can we just Google this? Yeah, Google it. Okay. I can't edit anything, so this is a fliptronics. It's a fliptronics. Okay. So does a fliptronics have one fuse? per hole and just one per flipper. One per flipper. So it can't be abused. No.
    79:45
    But it could be the hole, the transistor for the hole. Yeah, it could be the transistor for the hole. Or the wiring for the hole. Or the wiring for the hole, because there's eight transistors on that board. Actually, there's more than that. I think there's 12.
    80:00
    Why do I say more than that? Well, is there another Fliptronics game that's not next to someone or you could hold get the extra ball uh yeah Indy right Adam Dirty Harry oh well Flipronics 1 is Adam's name Dirty Harry uh Dirty Harry Flipronics Dirty Harry Flipronics it's not WPC it's WPC security but it's got same plate 95 it's not 95 no no no you can also go down to uh the end Demoman the end of Demoman shouldn't matter no the EOS doesn't matter at all although you can verify that by going to the flipper test mode and seeing if the hold works there. That shouldn't be any difficult. You really want to have some fun. You can rewire the signal from one to the other. You can just swap the coils.
    80:49
    Swap the wiring on the coils. Or swap the wiring at the top at the electronics and see if it jumps there.
    80:56
    That would require connector stuff. I know. I love connector stuff. You don't. And if the EOS switch was not working you would get it on the test report eventually. And it shouldn't affect the game. The Ennis Rook switch hasn't worked in my black rose for years. It still works fine. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. That's so tough. I think it's probably a transistor on the fliptronics. Do you have an extra fliptronics board to swap out? It would be the easiest way. Yeah, or test it with the multimeter. Yeah.
    81:23
    That's the on the spot. Did we just lose her? No, it goes in and out. Cool. EOS switch is fine, too.
    81:35
    I can check tomorrow. Thanks, caller. Do we have any other questions? Lord of the questions.
    81:50
    Some of you have been playing Lord of the Rings a lot, and I like it. So what is the other next call? Any upcoming? Oh, Sanctum. The 24-hour. We have three people here that are going to be playing in it, and one who's not. And it's the same person that missed out last time for the winning in the last night's tournament. Or yesterday's tournament. What? Who missed out on last night's top four? Yeah, I missed out on the money again. Exactly. So that's what? Same three people?
    82:20
    We'll see if any of you can finish as high as I did in the 24 hours. Okay, here we go. We have a stumper question. With my energy levels, finishing is my... What was the first game to offer a grace period? What? I'm assuming like a ball save like a penny shot is that like a jackpot grace period I don't know yeah do you mean like ball saver in general what machines are featured in other machines in i.e. Quicksilver and Deadpool let's just see which Quicksilver Flight 2000 and then they repeat two of the games again yeah I'm never saying but other games also like oh they had Berserk No, no, he's talking about other games and pinball machines. Like Preacher, you actually have Move Your Car, and then later on you have Move Your Car. And Flintstones has a Move Your Car parody. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Junkyard has like a zillion callbacks. Twilight Zone has callbacks to Adam's family.
    83:26
    Whitewater has the, what is it, the cyclone sound effect when it releases the ball. Do that again, please. Huh? Do that again, please. Something like that. Okay. That's on tape now. That is really, really bad. That's on tape? That's tape. Memorex. Oh, yeah. We're on tape. Yeah, we're on tape. I'm trying... I almost feel like Jungle Lord has a grace period on its combo shots, but I'm not sure.
    83:59
    Yeah, I haven't played it in like six months. I missed my taxi How about I mean What do you mean by Grace period I've only played one Like three times I missed my taxi Grace period I was the ugliest taxi In the world But I played really well Grace period Beginning of the ball Does it mean I was assuming Grace period What's your grace period Explanation please Because that 14 top guy Has to you know Hit the algo kicker And it drains To get it back Insurance I don't think it's a grace period That's a ball saver Yeah I mean maybe grace period Beginning of the ball Or during multiple Yeah I mean Do you mean, like, the godly ball save on, like, Amazing Spider-Man?
    84:36
    That does not have a ball save. Does it technically have a ball save? Oh, no, he's probably running the board. Yeah, it's a new board, I would assume. Oh, is that not normal? Did it have a skill shot, too?
    84:48
    It could have an attack mode. I don't know, it's Chucks. Oh, yeah, I think his has the new board. I don't know, and that's, like, I've played literally two, and one is Chucks and one is Keeler. How about Terminator 2?
    85:01
    What about it? It's got a great spirit at the beginning. It's a ball state. Yeah, ball state. I still think it's a great spirit, but Chuck is not elucidating.
    85:15
    We're stumped. No, no, we're... Well, wait. Hang on. Which one? Spider-Man? No, no, no. Flipronics do have a separate... Yes, Chuck. The Amazing Spider-Man. Yeah, Chuck, is there a Spider-Man with a weird ROM in it? I'm pretty sure he had a ball save or something if it went straight down. Then again, I haven't been at your place since the last Sweet Talker, so that's nearly a year now.
    85:42
    Oh, my God. It's nearly a year. You mean the Sweet Talker where you finished second? After winning it the previous year? And finishing second the year before, yes.
    85:55
    Someone who knows how to cash. Someone who doesn't know how to cash. No, no, there's only two fuses. I only catch them very oddly specific occasions that very rarely happen. Oh, yeah, okay. See, I thought I was right, because I was like, I don't think there's eight fuses there. I thought you were right, too, but I was looking at it. Unlike that east, uh, Southgate. Yeah, that east on the bottom ones have multiples. Yeah, which always surprised me. I guess it makes sense.
    86:19
    Yes, ball save. Oh. Yeah, because he has a Pascal board, apparently. Yeah. First game of ball save of any type, I think, is F4. I still don't know what that is. on the kickback. That's just the ground, right? And the first game of Ball Save, the beginning of the ball, is T2. Ah. Well, Steve Ritchie games. Excellent. Steve Ritchie innovating once again. Steve Ritchie designing mechs so bad that they can't work well and they don't even launch the ball out of the shooter lane. Wow. So he would get the Ball Save just to fix it. Wow. And Steve, that is Zach Fry.
    86:49
    That is legit the reasoning why. No, that is legit. I've seen an interview on T2. Which one? On T2? Yeah. They couldn't get the plunge into the targets reliable enough that it wouldn't just drain you all the time. Yeah, but it hits targets and... And then drains instantly half the time. So it's like Star Wars.
    87:08
    Yeah. Okay. Another Steve Ritchie classic, you know, also with a ball save. So, hmm. But still, bad design.
    87:17
    Yeah, I don't think you... Well, it's not... Star Wars, you can short punch. True. T.J. can't. But most people do not short punch. Most people should. I know, but most people don't. Especially if you watch the ball, it peels the game. So, Steve, Richie, if you see me at the show, please don't hit me. It's Zach Fry is his name. And he loves Star Wars, though. He loves Star Wars. It's like his favorite Stern game.
    87:42
    I still respect your effort, Steve. Crazy! Over the rainbow, he is crazy! Zach's not crazy he's been tested I haven't been tested oh you haven't been tested damn Crystal has a retort please read the retort for those who won't be able to see it say what you will about Steve Ritchie slash toy problems he's the king of order returns and in chef's kiss you know what that means please oh many people Yeah, sure. I'm the king of flow. Don't ever diss me again. I'll kick your ass. Whatever flow means. Flow means everything. What? Now, think about the Brian Eddy games. Brian Eddy has a great flow, too.
    88:44
    And he did the software for Black Rose. All those great video modes. And also he did Jones. And he put cows in everything. And he did Jones. Oh, God, he did that game? He did the video modes. No, I think he did half of it. Well, the video modes are okay. Go look right now. His name's right on there. Bruce, I read the comments that just came on. That's pretty funny.
    89:01
    Steve Ritchie is the bad boy of pinball, not the bad toy of pinball. You got it. I know it's toy. He only did three games. Actually, he did... Eddie designed three games. Designed three games. He coded a lot more. He coded five. Six. I mean, speaking of all the pinball callbacks, the cows don't count, right?
    89:24
    They sure do. the cows that would just make that would just open up an entire can of moving worms they're referencing Brian Eddy's strange love of cows are adorable but write a pin box with secret stuff oh god that has the most archaic like you have to put a sequence in do it a certain time to get it E-I-E-I-O the instructions to get it to work are like a page long though it's like you hold it down for 45 seconds then I don't remember what the code is. And you have to tap it into the...
    89:59
    There we go. We're turning through Moria. Hopefully, with just listening to that, this won't get pulled or muted on Twitch, because you really can't hear any music, so that's good.
    90:15
    So, Stern, please don't block this because we're... Where did the cow start? I think it was right, wasn't it? Well, okay. There was a cow in Fire, which had nothing to do with the other ones. That's actually a thematic development. That's a thematic element about the cow, what Miss O'Leary's cow.
    90:33
    Oh, he's great. Chicago Fire, yeah. But they started with Brian Eddy as like a cow thing. I guess he's got like cows. He had cows like in his office. He had cow stuff all over the place. So he started putting cows in his games. And all the other programmers, I don't know. The other programmers basically just. I thought it was quite a pinball. It could be. They follow suit and just started putting cows and everything and then he took it to the next level with you know tack for Mars You have cows on the ramps. You have a cow as a catapult thing. You have cows Coming down with the saucer the video mode. I Do like the old McDonald's That's the only good thing about it. It's like a
    91:11
    Directions to do Yes. On the new? He's on the new one, too? Yeah. Mickey Mouse. Read the question. Did you guys know about the Mickey Mouse on the new JJP Pirate Tech Review? I heard about it. I didn't see it yet, but I heard about it. But I knew the old one also. What? There's a Mickey Mouse on the artwork. So if you do an overhead of, like, Pirates, like the original Stern one, which is, we'll have to see if we can find it. No, it's really hard. It's underneath something. Okay, he's there. And supposedly he's also on the new Pirates of the Pyramid. So what's the first game that Brian Andy worked on?
    91:53
    Okay, mister just looked at IVDB. Maybe, uh... Bull Sharks. Yep. Bull Sharks! Yep. Which I don't think is a cow anymore. No, it's not. No, it's got sharks. But then he actually helped out on... On, uh... He helped. There's another thing he helped out on between. What?
    92:14
    Funhouse. Funhouse? The old one? Yep. Is there a cow? Not that I know of. No. Unless it's on the back glass somewhere. Maybe. Yeah, the cow I think first came from right up my back. But yeah, the first game he did was Pool Sharks. I knew that. I can't wait for Brian Eddy's game. Brian Eddy was the guy that Bruce always wanted to come back. Oh, of course. I always... Bruce would talk about it all the time. So when that was announced at... What was that? Texas? Yep. I just texted Bruce immediately. He's back. Your man is back. Hopefully they let him do the code to Elwynn style. Yeah. That would be nice. Yeah. And, you know, he is... I hope... No. Lyman and Eddie back together. Wow. We just get another Medieval Madness. Yes. I'm going back. Well, okay. We've already got three of them. But we might get another Attack of Mars. We've already got one. I want something new and different. Might get another Black Rose.
    93:10
    Oh, man. Another pirate theme, but they kind of already did that. Pirates of the Caribbean. Except it's not even Pirates of the Caribbean. It's just pirates. It happens to have a few pictures of Pirates of the Caribbean based on it.
    93:23
    Are there any other pirate-themed games? Just some EMs. Just EMs. Oh, like Agassi? No, Agassi's not pirates. It's just sailing.
    93:36
    Yeah. And then I think it's an animal version of Buccaneer. I don't know what it's called. Pirate. I don't know.
    93:45
    So we're petering down here, folks. It's been an hour and a half. An hour and a half. Captain Hook. Right, Hook. Oh, God. Hook! I forgot that. Everyone does. Because it's so bad. Yes. It's... I think it's just Hook. Sure again. It's just Hook. It sure has a ramp on it. Yeah. It's got one hell of a ramp. Hope your flippers are at full power. What do you think is the most ramped ever ramp? The most ramped? Ramp? Yeah. Like the longest, most amount of material? Sure.
    94:19
    White water. No, just one ramp. That is one ramp. If you go down one ramp, that's a long side one. A single path. That is a one path. You make that shot. Oh, you mean down the side thing? Yeah, that's a one big ramp. Do you think it's longer than one on toe jam? Yes. It goes around like three times, like through a loop. World Cup soccer. The one part, it's literally one piece that goes all the way around. That's just one orbit around the playfield, though. I bet Totent's as long as it's... I think more plastic is on Totent, but longer... Like, don't forget that whitewater's one top all the way to the bottom, and you have a little loop at the bottom, too.
    94:56
    They did some pretty extra ramps. What about the one on Blackwater 100 that goes from the top of that flipper all the way down to the apron?
    95:06
    And then if you miss it, it goes around the apron all the way forward. Who could it be? Norman. Chuck says that Hook is better than Gilligan's Island. Radical Ramp. Radical Ramp is another good one. Hook is better than Gilligan's Island. I like getting radical. Wouldn't you like a radical? I've never seen a radical. So you think Hook is better than Gilligan's Island? No.
    95:26
    Wait. Robin Williams' copy of Hook was sold for how much? 18 grand. Damn. There's a lot of stupid people out there. I mean, great people out there.
    95:37
    I mean, do they think he signed it or something? It was just this game. No, it had a plaque on it. Oh, okay. So you get to say you have Robin Williams' hook. Yeah. Wow.
    95:48
    It's kind of like the Star Trek Next Gen people who just didn't even take it out of the box. Yeah. People bought them later. Worf still had his in the box. Worf had his sold.
    95:57
    The Forge did also. No, it was the Doctor. Oh, wow. Beverly Crusher. Gates McFadden. Yeah, dude. Sold it to Greg Colton, who's a family guy director who's also a pinhead.
    96:11
    We're being out pinball history here. I'm in Game Plan's Captain Hook. Oh, Game Plan had a Game Hook Captain Hook? They barely made any, I think. They did, though. I'm familiar with this. It sure exists. And would you consider, what's the guy that just made a new pinball machine in Spain?
    96:37
    Uh, Nemo? The mafia? No, no, Captain Neo, I think it was, from like four or five years ago. Would you consider him like a pirate in some ways? I mean, no, but I also haven't heard of that, so. I haven't heard of it either.
    96:51
    Our copy of Next Generation is signed by the entire cast. Wow! Ah, yes. So we need to steal that Translight off that machine. Thanks, guys. Wait, no.
    97:00
    Really? That's a good Star Trek TNG. No? Does it include it? Star Trek Next Generation is one of the top five white bodies. Before we get into this argument, I have to ask, did you sign it? Did John Delancey actually sign it? Is he on there also?
    97:18
    I need to know. And while we wait for the answer, Zach, go. I mean, I guess some of the Atari white bodies are worse than it. I guess I'd have to admit. Every Atari is a white body. So what's better? Genie?
    97:31
    Genie. Circus? I haven't played a circus. Valley Circus? No. I'd take a Valley Circus. Hell yeah. In answer to the question, yes. John Delancey Q is on the Translight. Make it so. Make it so, number one. I need that Translight immediately. A version of Balls of Poppin'. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, it's on the Pop Cap. Balls of Poppin'? Wide body. It is.
    97:55
    Did not know that. I'll take that one. Space Invaders or Star Trek TNG? I've never actually played a Space Invaders but I've got to assume it can't be that bad especially with the nice email that guy sent us that Ron just stood up completely I talked to the guy I played a Space Invaders you didn't do the challenge I didn't do the challenge on the Space Invaders fail number one no Space Invaders no it's got cool art it has a horseshoe that's kind of like So cool, it's illegal.
    98:31
    Well, it has Predator on it. I don't understand why. It's not Predator, it's Alien. Oh, no, Alien. It has Alien on it. I don't know why Alien is on there. Because it's Space Invaders.
    98:39
    Except, actually, we invaded. The best thing about the game is the sound. Because they ripped all apart. The best thing is the sound. Oh, wow, that sounds like Space Invaders. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Good sound. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Would you rather play Split Second? Hurry, hurry, hurry. It looks interesting. I like the timed loop shot on that. It's a very cool idea. I play Q-Bert over Next Generation. Oh. Wow, that's bad. That's bad, Crystal. Crystal, sorry. Oh, sorry. You've lost a point on that. You've lost a point. Hopefully you don't mean Q-Bert's quest, the horrific John Trudeau turd.
    99:16
    Full point lost. So apparently the entire Trash Talker team of Riptide agrees that Star Trek TNG is not our favorite. Well, some, it's more than not their favorite. I was trying to put it diplomatically. The game sucks. This is the Slamtail podcast. It does not suck. The Slamtail podcast says... I love it. Love it. Yeah, I was trying to be diplomatic, but... I miss mine.
    99:40
    I want a Steve Ritchie game that times how fast you shoot the loop and gives you different... No, she said rather play Q-Bert in the video game. Oh, the video game? Oh, okay. Q-Bert's good. Yes, but... Crystal, have you ever actually played Q-Bert's Quest?
    99:54
    Is it Q-Bert's... Yeah, because Q-Bert's Cubes is the sequel to the video game. But Q-Bert's Quest is the horrifically bad. They've got a Q-Bert at Masuda Shows. Do they?
    100:05
    Does the knocker work? And a punch-out. Does the knocker work? Ooh, punch-out. With the two screens. Yep. And a rampage. A heavy. Rampage. See, that's boring. That game gets boring really fast. Okay. And the thing with the steering wheels. The thing with the steering wheels? Off-road or super off-road. Oh, okay. So they got all the old. Okay. My game got home. Yay! No. My game.
    100:35
    Your game? My game is in Farmington. Your alien star. Alien star. Spoiler alert? Spoiler, spoiler. Ron, are we ready for Expo?
    100:50
    Crystal? Yeah, we are ready for Expo. I'm so ready. And you get to hang out with Jeff Teolis. That's right. Jeff Teolis is going to be there. Hi, I'm Jeff Teolis.
    101:03
    Google Play, Stitcher, whatever. You can sing a Gene duet. Oh, a Gene duet. That's the end of the podcast. I've been editing.
    101:12
    Don't use the material from your podcast. That will be coming out any day now. Any day now. Any day. So thanks, everybody. We're running out of steam here, so let's end it. hope you enjoyed this live version of episode did you see they posted a game list of Esparce so far interrupting me I'm just telling you what she said a game list for Expo you mean the 400 games they're going to have there that's 400 games 400 copies of Next Generation oh my god I love it that would not be great none of them will work the good thing about if you have 400 there you'll at least make one good one Yeah, because each one will have something. After you combine them all together and smush it down in a car compactor. They have 25 listed. What, seriously? Seriously. 25 games listed? Yep.
    102:04
    Okay, folks. Well, this is going to be an interesting post-expo podcast. Yeah, next week we'll have a... That's going to be interesting. Yeah, and with any luck, Berkshire will also have one. No, no luck. It's going to be skill. Skill. It's going to happen. Persistence and determination. Wait, just guts. determination, just pulling through this three months of hell to edit that podcast.
    102:28
    Now you can go look at Indiana Jones and see if any of his name's on there. Indy? Indy. I've had to never look at that game. No, I agree. But you have the grand champion at 1.9 billion on it. It's not horrible, but it's so sick of it. I'm so sick of it. No, I like the way we play it. That is more fun. We play for modes. And if you complete a mode, you get an extra point. So you start a mode, you get a point. If you complete the mode, you get an extra point.
    102:56
    And your multi-ball and your score did not count at all. So how about we grab some funnel cake fries and do that? We're going to have some funnel cake fries. Yes, we are. Unless you come to Silverwell Saloon at 135 West Commercial Street, East Rochester. What was that again? Where? East Rochester, 135 West Commercial Street. Zip code 1445.
    103:15
    The funnel cake fries are really good, and so was the monkey bread. I can't have that last piece of coin. Everything else. So thanks, everybody. This has been episode 112, almost live. I already have the title. Wow.
    103:28
    Gasp. Thanks to Seth. Thanks to Zach. And my co-host, Bruce Nightingale. And thanks to the Silver Ball Saloon.
    103:35
    Thank you. Goodbye, everybody. Say goodbye, Bruce. I have no name. And I have no editing. I have no name, I'm being honest. How about the guy behind you? Goodbye, Gary Stern. See you later. Oh, my, my. Oh my, my, can you boogie, can you jive? Thanks everybody. Oh bye bye. Bye bye.
    104:21
    Oh my, oh my, oh my, it's guaranteed to keep you alive. Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my. You