The Pinball Show Ep 101: Conceding Satisfaction & Wrastlin' Gators

The Pinball Network·video·1h 28m·analyzed·Jun 1, 2022

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TL;DR

Pinball Show Ep 101: boutique manufacturer updates, Stern licensing speculation, and industry gossip.

Summary

The Pinball Show Episode 101 features host Zach Sharpe and guest Greg Bone discussing pinball industry news, with Craig Bobby covering smaller boutique manufacturers (Pinball Adventures, Multimorphic, Pinball Brothers, Dutch Pinball, Deep Root Pinball) and their production updates. The episode speculates on potential Stern licenses including Sonic the Hedgehog, E.T., Con Air, and Top Gun, comparing possible treatments to existing games and discussing design philosophies. A contest winner announcement and personal anecdotes frame the informal, entertainment-focused discussion.

Key Claims

Pinball Adventures' Punny Factory is planning to assemble and test 13 games in the next two weeks, with hopes to build 10 games per month ramping to 20-30 if demand justifies, limited to 120 units total.
high confidence · Craig Bobby citing Andrew McBain's production update; quotes directly from company communication
Multimorphic's Weird Al Yankovic P3 game now has over 2500 callouts from Weird Al himself and is experiencing production delays due to labor shortages.
high confidence · Craig Bobby citing NAP Arcade News and Canada's Pinball Podcast reporting on Multimorphic Facebook posts
Pinball Brothers has shipped approximately 500 Alien SVLV games and is producing 65-70 games per month; Queen music pin confirmed as next title after Alien.
high confidence · Craig Bobby citing Daniel (Pinball Brothers CEO) production update
Dutch Pinball's Big Lebowski wait time is just under one year, with dozens of machines in various stages of production visible on their factory floor.
high confidence · Craig Bobby citing NAP Arcade and Canada's Pinball Podcast factory tour images and Pinside member svente69 report
Deep Root Pinball's website now displays a cipher code decoding to 'check back soon for something interesting,' suggesting possible revival or community trolling.
medium confidence · Craig Bobby citing Chris Chandler observation; speculative interpretation of website code
Stern Pinball posted photos with Sonic the Hedgehog character and licensing representatives (Gary Stern, Seth Davis) on social media, suggesting potential licensing interest.
high confidence · Zach Sharpe witnessed the social media post (Facebook Stories, Instagram, or Twitter)
Ryan McQuade has a homebrew Sonic the Hedgehog pinball game based on the Sega Genesis series that has generated significant community enthusiasm.
high confidence · Greg Bone and Zach Sharpe discussing community reception; described as 'home brew' with popular design features like loop-de-loop and spinner

Notable Quotes

“I'm not gonna get rid of it like i'm committed to this thing i made this mistake i'm gonna do it”
Greg Bone@ 3:00 — Context for alligator moving anecdote; illustrates dedication despite unforeseen pet ownership challenges
“the number one thing you have to think about dude is like you you're not really got to be worried too much about its jaws and its teeth so much of getting bit the tail”
Greg Bone@ 4:39 — Practical wisdom about alligator safety during handling
“we at the pinball show do not accept money or sponsorship for the mentioning of their products and as always it's buyer beware”
Craig Bobby@ 12:44 — Transparency statement about covering boutique manufacturers; editorial integrity disclosure
“the very challenging and difficult business of pinball still attracts those who bite off more than they can chew”
Craig Bobby@ 11:58 — Critique of boutique startup success rates and industry risk
“i don't think it's so much the license of sonic i really don't because i don't think people want the movie i don't think they want the cart i don't think they want any of it they want the sega genesis series of games”
Zach Sharpe@ 22:40 — Core insight about community preference for Sonic IP treatment; identifies the appeal of Ryan McQuade homebrew
“see godzilla i mean everybody supposedly whenever stern snatched it out from spooky pinball that license that there was their dream license um everybody was head over here they were angry they're upset this is a shitty move stirring”

Entities

Zach Sharpeperson Greg BonepersonCraig BobbypersonThe Pinball NetworkorganizationPinball Adventurescompany Multimorphiccompany Pinball Brotherscompany

Signals

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product_launch: Pinball Adventures targeting assembly of 13 Punny Factory games in two weeks with ramp to 10-30 games/month production; 120-unit total limited run; Pinball Brothers shipping 500 Alien SVLV units at 65-70/month; Dutch Pinball ramping Big Lebowski with under-1-year wait times
high · Craig Bobby's news segment with direct quotes from manufacturer production updates
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machine_intel: Stern Pinball leadership (Gary Stern, Seth Davis) photographed with Sonic the Hedgehog character at Comic-Con/licensing event; also photographed with E.T. character, suggesting active licensing exploration
high · Zach Sharpe witnessed social media posts (Facebook Stories/Instagram) showing Gary Stern and Seth Davis with costumed Sonic character
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rumor_hype: Community speculation about potential Stern Sonic the Hedgehog pinball game driven by Ryan McQuade's popular homebrew Sega Genesis-themed version; hosts debate whether Stern would acquire license and how it would compare
medium · Zach Sharpe and Greg Bone discussing social media post and community enthusiasm; speculation on design approach and inevitable comparisons to homebrew
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sentiment_shift: Historical precedent discussed: Godzilla license shift from Spooky to Stern initially caused backlash but game quality eliminated criticism retrospectively; hosts suggest Sonic could follow similar pattern if executed well
high · Greg Bone's analysis of Godzilla reception; Zach Sharpe's nuanced discussion of difference between homebrew comparison and prior Spooky situation
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design_innovation: Multimorphic Weird Al Yankovic game receiving new code updates including 'You Make Me Wizard Mode,' improved UHF multiball, and new special challenge; game now features 2500+ Weird Al callouts

Topics

Boutique pinball manufacturer production updates and challengesprimaryStern Pinball licensing strategy and potential future titlesprimaryCompetition between Stern and homebrew/boutique designers (Sonic example)primary90s/early 2000s action film IP as potential pinball themessecondaryGame design philosophy and execution quality overcoming initial licensing controversysecondaryIndustry risk in boutique pinball startup venturessecondaryPinball community FOMO and licensing interestmentionedSteve Ritchie's design legacy and potential future projectsmentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.72)— Episode is entertainment-focused and conversational with optimistic tone toward boutique manufacturers despite cautionary warnings. Hosts express genuine enthusiasm for licensing speculation (Sonic, E.T., Con Air, Top Gun) and appreciation for industry diversity. Some underlying concern about startup viability tempers positivity. Nostalgia for 90s action films and IP creates whimsical speculation. No significant negativity toward manufacturers, though implicit criticism of unsustainable boutique business models.

Transcript

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warning the following episode contains adult language and screaming goats listener discretion is advised [Music] the pinball network is online launching the pinball show [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] hmm [Music] it's time for the pinball show it's pinball with personality come one come all it's the pinball show with your host zach manny how's it going everybody we're doing video again we're going to try this out and my best buddy was like wait a minute if you're going to do a pinball show and it's going to be video then why in the hell am i not included ladies and gentlemen my best friend in the world greg bone what's going on greg not much most special guest you could ever have on you are special that is quite uh what are you up to today yeah you know just doing this podcast going to move and uh move an alligator later on here as soon as i get off here moving an alligator is that like a euphemism for finally getting laid what is that no it's a truly moving uh real like a real alligator like a real alligator yeah yeah i've watched uh well i always want to say her because they they they named her allison um allison alligator alice in the alligator before uh he was old enough to be sexed they thought that it was a female and then they found out well no it has uh i guess a gator penis of some sort i guess do gators have penis i don't know i mean i'm assuming something comes out i don't know i haven't i could probably google it real quick and see what i do let's not let's not the gator peter looks like but uh yeah so hey they uh like i mean the the guy who is they just like a friend or what yeah yeah it's a friend so yeah he got this he got this gator when um when he was like a little bitty thing and you know how people do with pets but he was one of the few pet owners like one of those things aware that you know it's like oh my god i bought a pet that is uh terrible like like it's a like an alligator like you know yes of course yeah it's growing up and getting big like what do i do with this you know most people do that dumb [ __ ] and then they just get rid of it no most people don't oh my god dumb [ __ ] yeah well i know i mean like i'm saying the ones that do that would like be dumb enough i had a fair at once but okay yeah yeah see how you just get pets and then nobody thinks it's gonna get that big but this guy like had a big heart and he was like you know i'm not gonna get rid of it like i'm committed to this thing i made this mistake i'm gonna do it so literally like he took his entire garage ripped out the floor poured additional concrete and made like a [ __ ] pond inside of a garage weatherproof the entire thing with all this foam and everything else in there uh to control mold and mildew and stuff and made it a place in the garage and then he made a giant outdoor pavilion too with like a fence and everything and a whole lagoon and everything for it and now like so he switches he he takes it from the indoor space to the outdoor space you know between summer and winter so that it can have fresh air and live outside and i think that allison now is like probably like 10 or 11 foot oh my god yeah so it's ma it's like a full undertaking i'll send you pictures i'll send you pictures um like i'll show i'll try to get some today and then if not i'll send you something from a few years ago um that i took i haven't taken pictures for a while out there and she he's probably about seven foot then last time i was out there eight foot what are the odds that you get bit today man there's been some hairy calls before like it's it's not like you've got a course it's a backyard indiana alligator lagoon yes there's harry potter yes yes and so you gotta like stick a thing in there you gotta put a noose around its neck and then you gotta get one around it's it's it's jaws and then you gotta tape its mouth closed and you gotta drag it out and dude like something actually so here here's the thing that like you most a lot of people don't think about is nobody thinks about this [ __ ] craig okay what is one thing that you don't think about when wrangling your pet alligator so the number one thing you have to think about dude is like you you're not really got to be worried too much about its jaws and its teeth so much of getting bit the tail like the one thing that the tail exactly that's yes the tail it will snap your [ __ ] legs off really like yeah if it hits you like that tail is massive and it's powerful are you gonna take your little yorkie dog no no i mean it's kind of been bad so maybe i will feed it like a little chicken but no dude it's pretty interesting and it's like it's so insane because those things feel like like they're leathery but they're soft like it they're very it's such an odd feeling um you know and just to feel the immense power in that thing because you know you have to straddle it and you got to hold it down damn cool it takes multiple people but so it feels leathery you straddle it you have to put a new surrounded snack you gotta you gotta check its genitalia for what sex is it it sounds like a great night between me and your mom i'm not gonna lie i swear to god i like i i knew that was coming as soon as you said leathery i was like and there it is there it is right there ah now that's what i thought that was like yeah you gotta straddle it and noose it that's that's Greg Bone mom right there she's probably more wiry than that damn ally the alligator i can tell you that much all right greg meaner let's talk about pinball wow holy i'm so glad i had you on here today it's been a long time i've begged you forever don't beg me at all best friend straight down the middle co-host and i gotta beg to come on the pinball show oh man dennis kriesel thought that this video thing was just last week poor guy little does he know poor fella we'll do it as much as we can i did want to announce to you viewers and listeners out there uh that we do have a winner two winners three winners four winners of the tpn pinball network babies competition that we were doing that contest where we put up a picture of different tpm personalities on social media and you had to guess who that tpm personality was and we had 19 19 different entries and then we had numerous of you individuals who who tried guessing we do have some clear winners here first place winner is uh the winner of a shaker motor stern spike shaker motor is going to go to jordan stoltz congratulations jordan now he received or he now he earned 11 of the 19. he got 11 correct and 19 that's not too bad that's pretty solid it's hard it's hard to gauge like what people look like now versus them some people don't change but do you even have baby pictures yeah do you baby yeah okay but man did i go through an awkward teenage year oh man like oh oh my god like you don't like i'm unrecognizable really as like a young teenager uh filled with acne bad haircut and blind like blonde highlights like uh oh frosty no beard oh frosted tips oh and i was poor so those were that was poor you had peroxide [ __ ] didn't you yeah yeah that was the uh walmart special owl hmm i didn't go that far not the five dollars not speaking from uh experience here all right so uh the first placement was jordan stoltz i think he's an evansville guy so uh hometown guy nicely done jordan second place winner of a stern or a jjp banner we have both in stock at flipping out pimple is paul patzer nice job paulie holly got 10 out of 19 correct and third place was going to be a commemorative collectible foil decal of their choosing we've got we got a little pinball show action i got him right here let's see since i'm doing video you might as well right boom boom i don't know how well it picks up oh greg's usually the camera guy there it is i like it uh or we've got uh flipping out and all that stuff so uh there was a tie there was a tie at third place and the winners we're just going to give them to both the winners got eight out of 19 correct and those winners are kevin hart a long time viewer and supporter of the pinball show the female network straight down the middle he's been a good friend as well as robert gagno robert gagner nicely done [Applause] so what you guys need to do now so that i have your address jordan i've got yours it's fine but the other individuals email us at the pinball network at gmail.com send me your info so that i can get that mailed out to you nicely done and for those of you who are following along if you'd like a rundown of the 19 tpn personalities entry number one was craig bobby number two joel engelberth number three rebby hardy number four michael castleman number five eric whittenberger number six sean wilson number seven steve beatty number eight lisa castleman followed by number nine carter castle and number ten david dennis i don't think anybody got that one number eleven ron hallett jr nobody got that one as well number 12 dennis crease on my little crazy number 13 beck gallagher uh from hup challenge number 14 hottie from frisco pinball number 15 tommy mcnichols from jedi mcmuffin streaming number 16 george fisher 17 amanda hamilton 18 yours truly zach minnie which i believe everyone got correct and number 19 jordan allen from hub challenge nicely done now craig bobby started us off at entry number one i think maybe only one person got that correct let's jump over to craig bobby right now greg and see what he has dreamed up for us regarding pinball news around the industry [Music] hello and welcome to the pinball shows news update i'm craig bobby one of the constructive criticisms we hear occasionally on the tps news desk is that we're too biased on industry leaders like stern and jersey jack pinball and that we don't give equal time to the smaller boutique manufacturers how does the so-called little company get their name in the sun on the tps news table well for one the boutiques are just that small relative to stern jersey jack chicago gaming or american pinball and have less going on so there's really less to say about them week in and week out other than waiting waiting and more waiting if you thought waiting for your new game was slow and frustrating with jjp or stern you better make sure your patient pants are the right size when you hit your wagon to one of these small companies but despite those challenges this week we're gonna ask the big boys to step aside as we shine our tps news spotlight on a few of these smaller boutique or lesser-known pinball manufacturers and give you a few updates on where they are with their production efforts or upcoming releases a quick disclaimer before i begin as some of these companies are just as their monikers suggest meaning as always it's buyer beware and be careful with your deposits or payments up front as the stories of bankrupt pinball startups or those who are unable to deliver on their promises to customers are surprisingly common in the last 10 years too often the very challenging and difficult business of pinball still attracts those who bite off more than they can chew or those that should have kept their day jobs doing anything else other than try to make pinball machines but the upside to some of going through the long haul with these long shots is everything how would you like to own a machine that none of your other friends have either heard of or can get their hands on while sterns jjps american pinballs or even cgc's or a dime a dozen in the real world who out there actually owns a pin from one of these lesser known companies to the winner will go all the spoils while the loser gets wait for it nothing so i'd like to emphasize again that these companies are smaller that they have varying degrees of financial risk to the buyer attached that we at the pinball show do not accept money or sponsorship for the mentioning of their products and as always it's buyer beware do your homework first before you pull out that credit card and you be the judge on whether they are worthy for your precious time and treasure but without further fanfare or chatter here are some news about the most common boutique or smaller pinball companies in the market today that i haven't mentioned previously and that we will continue to follow and monitor in the months and weeks ahead we start first with pinball adventures you've heard about them you've laughed at their themes but don't look now pinball adventures out of surrey british columbia canada is actually getting ready to make their first release of punny factory andrew mcbain recently reached out to the pinball show to offer these production updates things are great over here and we've been busy for two years building and understanding what goes into manufacturing we would have finished the punny factory last year but we were waiting on our subcontractors to finish their part of the build there were lots of bumps along the road what we learned from each one andrew goes on to say that they are hoping to assemble and test 13 games in the next two weeks i will make it clear that we have no problem getting parts raspberry pi is questionable we have been just waiting on other contractors since we were always put on the back burner being a small company it's a good thing that we do not have to rely on pinball for our bread and butter our other company that is quite busy funds all the pinball supply manufacturing and research and development so really no financial pressure at all just fun once we start building we'll be selling all the games through distributors and asking for one dollar deposits to hold the game spot it will be limited to four per distributor we will start by building 10 games per month but will ramp up to 20 or 30 if we sell out right away we are still only making 120 units for punny factory pinball adventures also has a progress meter set up on their website pinballadventures.com that shows each game's progress to make it easier for the buyer to know how far along their game is also of note pinball adventures makes their own feature titles known on their website with five more in development including elements pinball volts electrical sushi pinball forsaken ninja and fruit-o-matics say what pinball adventures has also created a handful of unique pinball tools or other pinball related devices that are also shown on their website which include pinball pause pinball wedge pinball strong arm pinball boost and pinball upright and spin [Music] we turn our attention next to the company multimorphic with their p3 system featuring their latest music themed title of weird al yankovic following facebook posts from canada's pinball podcast showing unfinished wood cabinets and playfields on the multimorphic production line the nap arcade news site also recently posted news this week stating that multimorphic is working hard on new weird al code new code updates include you make me wizard mode an improved uhf multiball and new special drink from the firehouse challenge the game now has over an astonishing 2500 call outs from weird al himself previously the company has stated that it is experiencing production delays of its new weird al title due to labor shortages we move next onto the world of the pinball brothers daniel the ceo of the pinball brothers recently sent us their production update for their movie themed alien pinball machine daniel states we are hard at work increasing our production capacity to fill the alien orders and i am happy to say that everything points in the right direction after a difficult 2021. we are approaching 500 games svlv shipped for the moment the factory is putting out approximately 65 to 70 games per month there will also be side blade decals not lit just decals for alien and a light box kit for the backbox made available for alien sv game owners both will be announced when available the confirmed queen music pin will be up next for the pinball brothers as they continue to assemble parts and make their minor design tweaks to that game after a non-playing prototype went on display in london some months ago and what comes after titles like alien and queen daniel responds the next title needs to be well worthy if you like we are very proud of the licenses we have had a chance to work with so far and that pride will not fade as we move to the next one let's have a look next at dutch pinball makers of the big lebowski movie theme pinball machines that was released what seems like a lifetime ago back in 2016. i won't go into the financial and production trials and tribulations of dutch pinball as others have discussed this at length over the years however courtesy of nap arcade and canada's pinball podcast we are now getting images from the inside of the sizeable production floor of dutch pinball as their ongoing big lebowski machine seems to be ramping up further as images show dozens of finnish pinball cabinets on the floor with machines in various stages of production according to a pinside member named svente69 who recently took a tour of the dutch pinball production factory the current wait time for orders of the big lebowski pinball machine is a little under one year also of note dutch pinball is sending out two early achiever games for its original customers who are still owed machines with every new shipment and lastly the most recent defunct deep root pinball company appears to be back from the dead posting on their corporate website courtesy of chris chandler our former deep root news correspondent noted a string of characters on the deep root website much like a cipher code that string of characters decodes to check back soon for something interesting could it be true or could someone actually still be trolling the pinball community from inside an sec courtroom well we shall have to wait and see thanks for listening this week as we covered the news of some of the smaller or boutique pinball manufacturers in the pinball industry today as always for the pinball show i'm craig bobby catch you on the flip side i still love craig bobby doing that that's i it's a good one it's a good segment it's fun man craig brings a lot to stuff like i've kind of enjoyed that like uh i've always enjoyed you know just kind of some of the things he scripts out some little extra flair he throws on to stuff man it's it's nice he was doing deeper cuts he was going with the boutique pinball companies with a big old warning i'm saying hey i'm covering this stuff but don't get mad at me if these companies fall through and your money is lost so nice yeah nice but we gotta cover those still pinball but we can't start with those we gotta start with the king it's stern pinball this is what the show is all about the biggest news the best news and we start with the biggest company stern pinball did you see recently i don't know if it was twitter instagram facebook stories i don't know what it was stern pinball kind of trolling um trolling the people and especially american pinball with a picture of owner gary stern and new ceo seth davis posting a picture with sonic the hedgehog at a licensing or a comic-con convention of some type so costumed up with sonic the hedgehog and to the left and right flanked by sonic was seth davis and uh and gary stern did you did you see that that was that was nice nicely done i saw the sonic uh the sonic ass grab it oh i was gonna mention that too their hands were a little low weren't they on lc yeah like what are you you goosing him are you trying to you're trying to bring him over is that how you got that license what happened i think they were trying to collect rings if you know what i mean do you see do you see stern pinball greg do you see them making sonic the hedgehog pinball game oh man you know i don't know because like you know it's one of those things that obviously just seeing uh ryan mcquaid's game and stuff you know and seeing you know because there's been an outpouring of people it's like oh my god you know that would be good uh but you know i have a hard time differentiating you know being able to tell okay do people are people wanting just ryan's game because ryan did a really good job with what he did in that game um or are they really calling for a sonic license so you know i i think it's a combination of both do i think they will well maybe i don't know will they buy ryan's game like i don't see that happening with him working at american but if american can't get the license ryan's setting on it he wants to make money off his game is that something you've ever seen stern really do i mean you know we see him bringing elwyn with archer and re-theme it yeah they use a contract even even with like nordman they contracted him to come in to do uh elvira's house of horrors and different things yeah i don't know they buy the game i think that they see how popular that license is for the market they're trying to sell to they see Ryan McQuaid uh do a home brew and everybody go gaga over it so they say yes i think we got this and i think we can do this even better um i i see them doing a loop-de-loop i see them doing all of that the number one thing and i've said it before viewer i don't think it's so much the license of sonic i really don't because i don't think people want the movie i don't think they want the cart i don't think they want any of it they want the sega genesis series of games that's what they want deadpool 100 yeah and that's what was appealing about ryan's game was it was the sega sonic it wasn't the movie sonic it wasn't any spin-off or the cartoon animated series or anything it was it was psychosonic it wasn't ugly sonic no team ugly sonic for sure yeah but you know but but here's where some of the issue lies too that i think a lot of people if stern makes this game um which i i do think they will i think is it always going to be compared to what ryan has done or any aspect like you said like the loop to loop or you've got the uh the spinner uh at the finish of of the level like the thing right but yeah are they going i mean because ryan used a lot of stuff that's that's in the game and no matter who makes it it's things that you would expect people to put in the pinball machine but will always be compared and say you ripped off Ryan McQuaid you used his idea you did this do you think that that will take that game if they do make it i'd say see godzilla i mean everybody supposedly whenever stern snatched it out from spooky pinball that license that there was their dream license um everybody was head over here they were angry they're upset this is a shitty move stirring yada yada elwynn creates godzilla and nobody says a word now because it's one of the greatest games ever made and but and and people actually say well at this point they're like retrospect you know uh hindsight they're like well i'm glad stern made godzilla i'm glad they did it over spooky so i think if they make it a great game people are not going to care at all yeah but but again this is it's a hair different i agree with you if they make it great people forget and people don't care there's none of that loyalty there but the main difference is is spooky didn't have basically a built game spooky didn't have anything physically to compare to it was the it was the uh theft of a license um but this is so different because ryan had basically a finished game in a sense so i think that's the hard thing i think it's going to be even more difficult greg if if they do try to interpret this license into a game if they don't get those very sega aspects of it from that video game series then i think you do see people going back and saying but what if if only it was a ryan mcquaid then i can see that because yeah we need we need a loop to loop we need a fast game yes and we need a somewhat friendly game but we need those sega video game assets or with chuck ernst in the animation team viewer they could probably replicate a lot of that like they did in deadpool and pull it off as well but it will be very difficult but i think they probably could during that same it was on it was on facebook stories because i saw that picture pop up i also saw a couple other pictures pop up with some of the stern people around licenses uh and characters from you know franchises and such i went back to try to see which other ones thinking maybe they're giving us a little a hint here the only one i remember is because it's near and dear to me was the movie e.t they were with e.t um and i gotta tell you i don't know how well it would sell greg but et would be just such a lovely game in my opinion it's one of those things that's like avatar where people like oh i don't like that license but i just love it so it works for me i don't know how great of a seller it would be but do you see them ever making uh steven spielberg's e.t extraterrestrial you know the weird the weird thing about like something like et's it's kind of like what you said is it's like do does anybody think about it does anybody go does it have legs yeah from yesterday yeah exactly but it's so whimsical and it's so heartwarming and it's so uh adventurous like there's so much to it that that if you really start to think about it could make a really cool neat pinball machine um you know with elliott and the bicycle at the end you know anything him in the basket uh yeah yeah his finger lighting up yeah all laboratory stuff the flower will turn you got all kinds of stuff there yeah yep the the race to get e.t you know with the you know away from you know the fbi whoever you're gonna kill him yeah yes and then the bmx bikes like it just screams 80s nostalgia 90s nostalgia in so many ways yeah i think it could be something very soft and and whimsical like wonka like you know i think it would have that same kind of overt i want it a little darker a little darker hmm well i mean it's not gonna what it can what sense because this i mean it's obviously not gonna lend itself to the colors and the brightness yeah that's what i mean like not too much whimsy no no i don't want too much color i want you know the wood uh i want the greens i want the darkness i want the coldness and the lab feel i want all oh yeah you have to yeah yeah yeah you don't want to brighten it up you don't want to go throw in like a guardians with a galaxy art package email us at the pinball network gmail.com if you remember what other pictures they were taking because there could be some stuff there there could be some stuff there speaking so not to divert this but i'm never on the show so uh we don't get to go ahead about fun things but uh what do you remember what we were talking about a few weeks ago of what no one thinks about nor had we really thought about as a theme for a pin but it would actually be an amazing pin do you remember what movie we were talking about [Music] he's a failing actor who's making a giant comeback johnny depp no he's gonna come back he's just fighting for his life [Laughter] no you remember conair nicholas cage yes yes we had a 45 minute phone conversation about how conair could be one of the greatest pinball machine themes ever yes yes and it went deep yes i do too because there's so much you could do and it was phenomenal so i had to throw that out there because you know how we here in the media we got to get ahead of other media people so before anybody else says that conair is going to be in there yeah yeah so we got a shitty southern accent he was locked from louisiana why couldn't you put the bunny back in the box um what was his name in that movie oh my gosh if you would have said anything because i mean we like i said we went so i mean you got steve buscemi in there yeah he's got ving john malkovich yeah danny trump yes it is a phenomenal all-star cast that would be amazing and that that could be where you run into the major issue i would just love so much i would love it along the same lines as i would face off armageddon like those those 90s late 90s early 2000s just action i love it that's the thing is conair is just pure action it's sort of to me like when you take something like guns and roses and you just take that that that just like the feeling of non-stop hard high energy because yes like that's the way that you could make that pinball machine because there's just like almost no dull moments in that movie it's so insane the entire time cameron poe cameron poe yes cam rim oh and cyrus the virus was uh john malkovich oh dave chappelle was in there too yes that was before he was like ever even thought of monica potter was in there oh remember she was uh she was a freaking fox on joe dirt another another theme that would be great for pinball man would be good joe deartay baby i hope that in our lifetime greg one of those things two of those things three of those films are made i really do well you you really think about it though we're getting out of uh soon we'll be progressing where we're starting to get out of the things like ghostbusters and where 80s stuff is relevant 90s i've told everybody these are coming yeah and that's that's what's going to start becoming next poppy man why speaking of the hit that is top gun this this weekend at the box office why is top gun still not a pinball game dude that would be insane like updated f14 yeah that would be great that would be just phenomenal i wonder if steve ritchie would do a top gun since he did f-14 that would be like in his wheelhouse theme wise i think yeah i i think it's something that that that you know an updated f-14 for from steve you know the flow the speed and everything else but with an updated license um you know it's kind of like him doing a black knight again it would be like you know revisiting f14 but kenny loggins yeah he's throwing it in as a license and i i think that honestly with the popularity of this new movie you take the nostalgia of the last one like and as well as this one's going over because like i haven't seen it yet but that's what everybody's saying is it's basically like such a great throwback to the original that it has it encompasses everything that made the original so good um almost maybe better like i think i think it could honestly be a theme that that stands up and would would probably sell really speaking of themes the rumor is a venom pinball machine possibly coming up next by stern in august that or a rumored james bond do either one of those do anything for you i mean can you not see like behind me like oh look right there actually oh oh wait i got a glare from that light box oh right there oh yes it 100 percent would uh right right next to your deadpool right yes yes oh yeah 100 yeah and then i can get your batman whatever reason then you'd want spider-man vault again yeah i still want it i don't want spider-man i can't do spider-man vault like honestly i would take a spider-man vault 100 um i just haven't looked i need to look and see if they got a good pin sound uh file for it if there's something good yeah we need simmons back in there parker yes yes if i could redo that i would take the vault just i love the look of the bolt the look of the vault is amazing beautiful not doing the sounds anymore so venom you could do james bond james bond is a little dated for me i'm going to say it bond is for me too and then like unless it's daniel craig that yeah man even though i'll have a chubby open in that box all day long it's kind of worn on me a little bit is it passes do like like it's so hard to do a daniel craig one right now because then it's like okay they're they're looking for like interest elba they're looking for a new bond like so it's like it's be so weird to have an outdated daniel craig pinball machine that just shows up and now you got a brand new bond that's not daniel correct i think they kind of missed the boat on that by like five years yeah they could have done one just based on casino royale oh 100 yeah amazing i think it's my favorite on film actually yeah i don't know craig's probably my favorite sky fall was really good too skyfall was good i do like craig i like i just don't want them to mess it up they've had bonds yeah all right let's talk about some code updates we got some big code updates from stern pinball this week godzilla version 0.96 which includes a monster zero mini wizard mode now greg you have godzilla premium yes and you are in love with it i do love it so much so that you want to read to or straight down the middle review yes i need to yeah because i'm an ass [ __ ] on that game plus hey hey listen a b plus is normally good but i [ __ ] on this game for what it is to give it a b plus and uh have you updated the code i haven't updated code online yet i haven't either i did the last update uh that came out nine four months ago but yeah i haven't done this one and i still didn't i i never did the readme file this is how stupid i am and i don't know why it's just dumb i never did go in and i never read like because didn't they put a another mini wizard mode in that last one too yup i forgot the name of it but yep they had another one there too stupid me like i just never did going because i don't know how i still haven't gotten to it and i've ran through a few of the the monsters the kaiju and stuff but i don't know how to get to it i haven't got to that one yet either no yeah i need to read and see what i need to do to even get to it you've been too busy you've been too busy training to be an official tech to do any of that we'll talk about that here in a minute so we got new new code from uh from from rush pinball as well 0.96 as well so we're getting close at 1.0 codes for both of those new games the new rush code includes the cygnus x1 book 2 hemispheres wizard mode and they added a challenge mode into that game as well as just a bunch of other call outs live shows et cetera et cetera et cetera so go update your codes people and it's easier than ever with insider connected bada bing bada boom you're uploading you're good to go so here's one thing that i need to say publicly and i need to talk on the air about for like three minutes okay having a rush at home rush is actually a very phenomenal game like yeah you're big yeah and i i wasn't that much but i like the way that it shot so you know uh you were gracious enough uh flipping out pinball to to to let me take one home um and explore it and and i actually kind of fell in love with the code like i love what raid a did with code it's actually it's super tough because the modes are long the amount of shots that you have to make in some of those modes is astronomical but it's fun it's doable my only complaint and i i just i i i i need to say it to ray day right now the thing that i think lacks in that game is i need to be able to see my progression more like it's like it's so tight and tiny that i have a hard time knowing how much further i need to do how many more shots i need like especially something like working man that can be you know have so many shots i'm like i just need something to engage me to wear that like okay i look up and i'm like okay i'm at you know two o'clock on the clock on working man i need i just need a bigger visual reference because then i kind of get lost and i'm like okay i'm making shots and i really don't understand my progression and the game is kind of fast so like i'm i'm trying yeah it's a combo based game yeah and i'm trying to find on the screen where you know where my progression is and what i need to do and what i need to hit next and everything and it's just not visually there so if there's anything that you can do please bring those animations and bring those graphics yeah greg you know what you know what you know what game does a really good job of visually showing progression i think is guardians of the galaxy yeah it's remember that when you start a mode it's got a circle and it shows you how much is a circle or is it bar but it shows you how many segments or how many more shots you need to complete yeah i think it's all in the same spot yep exactly so you know exactly where to look yep yep and it does and you know it's not real big it doesn't eat up a lot of the screen it doesn't eat up a lot of the animation stuff but it it's there and it's visually you can see this is what i need to do and i think without that the game is less engaging you wouldn't you know you wouldn't think that'd be such a big deal but when you don't do that it feels more grinding you just feel kind of more lost it's aware that it keeps you more engaged and you're more amped up like hell yeah i need five more shots i like it too because if you have like three shots left and you know your timer is running out you can then hit your action button for those uh house hal allison's cylinder whatever the hell that thing that give me uh action button uh progression so you know you had three of those boom boom boom and you got the mode and i like that as well so new code updates all around also wanted to mention uh self-promoting of course is uh we had a an investment magazine that was recently published this last week called luck box magazine you have to go check that out on your newsstand or you can download it for free right now i think it's at uh luckboxmagazine.com something like a search it google it but uh yours truly myself zach manny was was featured in a story there um alongside owner gary stern stern pinball raymond davidson speaking of radio himself and uh roper roper fuentes from emporium in chicago and they reached out to us to discuss the the boom and the resurgence of pinball and where it's coming from why it's happening and how long it's going to last it was a really in my opinion interesting read but um but yeah i was happy to be a part of that and i was very proud actually to be a part of that so go check that out you should be congratulations to all of you guys man it was a really good article thank you it's a beautiful book too i liked it really was okay so that's stern pinball let's jump over to our other favorite company jersey jack pinball greg we got a canadian pinball podcast this last week reporting that he has an inside source who then he said was a dealer toured the factory this last week and did not see anything on the production line except for guns and roses so a lot of people were thinking this rumored toy story if if that's the next game is going to be on the line probably maybe some in boxes people talked about a may 23rd release you and i knew that wasn't the case but nothing on nothing on the line inside source it's a dealer hmm but then jjp i was talking uh to individuals to jjp and they did tell me they said look the public including dealers and distributors have not had any factory access and weeks and any reports otherwise are just 100 percent false well so and it seems kind of uh shady like there's no way i would say my source is a dealer who toured the factory it's like okay we we how many deals narrowed down the factory yeah exactly it's kind of like a blown cover no womp womp i don't know what to make but i just found it interesting and wanted some clarification for you as the viewer we're gonna shift over before we get into some of the boutiques we're gonna shift over to one of the biggest events competition-wise uh for the entire year and that's the ifpa 17 world championships wow they're gonna crown a world champion we couldn't talk about the winner because we're recording while it's in its final round so nothing there but this uh this occurs in fort myers florida and this is a carryover greg and viewer from 2019-2012 standings so some of the young guns uh we're not seeing in this in this championship because the points were based off of pre-pandemic and they haven't had this tournament uh or this event since then so we're get we're seeing that now but i've been watching and it's been really really entertaining i've had a lot of fun watching it [Music] all right everybody late breaking news here at the pinball show here i am on memorial day weekend trying to enjoy my day i'm kicking back a few playing some corn hole with the family chilling out sneaking in some video of the if 17 world championship such an awesome event that was held down in the fort myers florida area when something significant happened and i know you guys you you guys always look to competitive pinball analysis from me your boy zack so i had to break in here and i had to give you guys a new segment that we're going to call on the pinball show highlight of the week highlight of the week is showcasing something special that happens visually and i'm going to share it with you and give an analysis and i'm going to have you interact with myself as well as the rest of the pinball network and comment below a multiple choice option on what in the hell just happened before we break it down let's jump back into the action of the ifpa 17 world championship where something occurred that i've never seen before and many of you guys have never seen before i'm going to give you a quick breakdown of what you're about to see four hours of head-to-head play four hours of Keith Elwin playing escher left off it was ninth game that they've played ninth game it was all down to this the winner goes into the final four and on ball three of jersey jack pinballs dialed in this happens this is so much fun to watch this is such a great game in pinball what a what a match what a game one million points with some bonus incoming probably going to put them close to 1.1 maybe even beyond 1.1 million keith has a massive hill to climb here on dialed in yep a key just keith just conceded yep oh my gosh yeah i've never i've never seen that before in a i'm still in shock louis i'm i've i can't believe that uh what on the what in the what did why did i mean at least try yeah why why would you not try that's vince um i'm in shock same well this this game i don't really have an answer but certainly this this whole match has been a marathon yeah so i don't think he did it to keep ifpa on schedule no no that's his own decision his own doing yeah uh i'm i'm speechless i i have to catch i can't imagine ever doing that i mean he's got a two and a half hour drive but i don't think flight to catch would be it well we can uh we can see if we can ask him wow wow i'm i'm sorry i i i i think that was a a terrible thing to do i agree but that's his call it's his choice as he he earned the right to do what he pleases with every ball he plays yes indeed i mean just from a standpoint of competition i would have liked to have seen the seen him try because it could have resulted in an epic uh an epic comeback but we at least hey let's not take anything away from escher no so escher just blasted the crap out of that dial what in the hell was that he conceded he quit ball three bimbo is a one ball game and the greatest of all time keith l win exit stage left he just quits he's four hours just playing one player he's been playing all weekend ladies and gentlemen and he simply quits he's done he's just done for why in the hell did you play all weekend keith what was going on sure he was being handed an ass whoop and i get that maybe on a game that he didn't know i don't even know what to make of this i have no clue zack you shouldn't have any clue because you don't play competitively you've never played in a tournament nor a league so you don't have the right to say anything it's what some naysayers may say but you know what i say this is my damn show i'll say whatever the hell i want to say and analysis is the name of the game and that's what i do the best but i'm going to have you guys help me out on this i feel a number of mixed feelings regarding this chat blew up if you guys were watching live stream and you're seeing that highlight clip the chat blew up people were pissed off what a slap in the face this is some people were saying wow what a what a an unselfish moment being on the top of the world being the greatest of all time and handing the torch to somebody else what a show of respect other people just were dumbfounded and had no clue what the hell was going on that was me i'm still trying to figure out this competitive pinball thing because to me as i'm watching as a viewer um i'm really confused i i don't know what this is i don't know why waste your time and not finish it maybe there's some 200 level iq [ __ ] there that i don't get but um i think it could be a number of things i think it could be a number of things maybe i'll maybe dennis and i next week we'll discuss it but i'm going to give it up to you guys comment down below i'm gonna give you four options of multiple choice as to what the hell happened in Keith Elwin's head to make him just quit you can choose option a bad sportsmanship [ __ ] such behavior is just kind of a slap in the face to the sport to the ifpa to the viewers and especially to the other competitors man if you lost to keith that went in this last round gee thanks i i wanted to play i could have been there you just give up b it says keith i'll win he's a grace of all time this is just his way of taking off his hat with a tear in his eye and waving to the audience that has admired him for years a final goodbye and a passing of the torch to the new blood he conceded just simply out of respect for the sport that has become his legacy to become his life option c i mean even michael jordan had a little bite to him keith was probably thinking i don't know look i could lose now in a pretty damn big way on a game that i really don't know much about instead of just being forgotten on such a large stage look i may not win but i can still own this show relevancy [ __ ] or option d dude had imax tickets to go see top gun maverick and uh i mean would we should we play boring ass captain fantastic guys what a game pick geez or top gun boring ass captain fantastic putting everyone to sleep or top gun croods too it is now i mean can you really blame him so make your choice down below option a bad sportsmanship option b it's keith that when he's the greatest of all time this is this is his respect his swan song if you will option c even jordan had a little bite tim little razzle dazzle all lie still on me or d top gun comment down below share like discuss describe what in the hell happened next week on the pinball show dennis and i will discuss in depth what we think happened or if there was any any other information that has come down to let us know what happened to the greatest of all time keith that one at the world championship oh boy and by the time this comes out by the time you guys are listening and watching you can see who in the world uh literally who in the world pun intended won that tournament i always feel like you and i are brothers we can finish each other's thoughts we can uh i can know what you're thinking most of the times would you agree i do agree it's kind of odd but i think that's why we work so easy together too and i think that that level of respect is like why that when we do disagree it's so easy as well like you know to compromise and move forward we agree so much that even though i disagree i can at least see where you're coming from and i only bring that up that you and i are like brothers from another mother is because there are already pinball brothers in the industry a little small boutique company overseas called pinball brothers remember took over for highway pinball they've been updating the industry and craig bobby's been talking to him you guys heard in top stories craig talking about pinball brothers reaching out and saying they've actually they're approaching with the aliens game they're approaching 500 games that they have shipped that's over a year span but so they've probably was it five six years that they've been going at this but 500 games is nothing nothing to scoff at and right now they're building about 65 to 70 machines a month of alien pinball and they said their next title is going to be as they as they kind of sneak peeked it before months back is going to be the the rock band queen and that's their next they're making some slight design tweaks to it but we're going to see that hopefully within the next couple months probably in the fall i would guess we're going to see queen i was a little mixed on the whole layout i know barry orssler helped with it um but the the license you know greg how how big that license is for me i love freddie mercury i love that music it's probably if i had to pick five music based pinball machines that would be in it so i'm hyped up for the license i'm hesitant about the layout and what it's going to be but i'm still very excited nonetheless well and here's the thing that i i think that that that they have going for them is let's say that queen comes out um it's not a huge success uh because the layout artwork whatever else that that they have to overcome with that game um i i think that the the the biggest obstacle that uh that pinball brothers has to to get over is uh trust um and not not trust in the company because they're obviously putting out games but just the the trust that they're going to be around that you're going to be able to get parts because everyone that i talk to you know it's it's that common boutique thing um which spooky has overcome because spooky has proven themselves but i think that that the reason people aren't so many people aren't buying alien is that they're scared of like okay what if something goes wrong with my game are they going to be around like like what am i going to be able to get for this game what am i going to be able to do and i think if pinball brothers overcomes that i think that you could easily triple those sales on alien if you can just ease people's minds that you're going to be around because i think that that's the only thing that keeps people from buying that game most people who flip it they they might not necessarily love it but they like it enough and they respect it and they absolutely love the theme that i think that they could just rerun that game for a private but you like that queen tanks and as a reminder you can always purchase your pinball brothers products through an authorized dealer such as ourselves at flipping out pinball but and so there's bias there of course because we're selling their products but we're pretty transparent as well like i was i was very shaky with the whole alien thing i did receive one some of the build quality on it is second to none it's phenomenal some little issues here and there i had a display issue so they're still working on things parts availability is becoming much better i do know that through cointaker so not as many worries there but um yeah but they're they're moving machines right now and if they continue to get licenses that people like they're going to continue to move more and more machines they did talk about well what comes even after queen and they said they i felt like a hint when they when they were um corresponding with craig bobby and i they said the next title they made it uh they made it a thing they were like it's gotta be worthy the word word what do you think of when you hear worthy i know what pops into my head we're not worthy yeah yeah it's wayne's world yeah do you think wayne's world would be a good pinball theme ah you know personally like yeah i've always liked wayne's world and stuff like um it wouldn't be like number one on my radar but wayne's world still i think is such an iconic uh film and those characters are so iconic i mean we did an awesome halloween yes episode revision yeah wayne and garth i think it can work i think it's a big enough license to work um it's amazing though that this pinball brothers company gets dynamic huge i mean huge license queen alien those are dynamite a license uh wins world borders on that b level license but still could flex into the a level depending on what you put into it it's a good license well and they don't have to sell 6 000 games they're they're not they're not trying to compete with stern or even jersey jacker that's a great like you know like that's the thing is like would wayne's world sell 500 pinball machines 100 would it sell a thousand probably so it's not like that yeah maybe it'd be close but definitely 500 they're gonna sell 500 games uh of wayne's world so it's like you know if they don't have to to hit these gigantic numbers and their production and everything else to keep up with that like wayne's world doesn't have to be the greatest license of all time for them it just has to be good uh another smaller company out of texas is multimorphic multimorphic posted this last week they have new weird al wizard mode so a code update and some challenges within their new code so that's that's uh very interesting a lot of fun over 2500 call outs from weird al yankovic himself that's phenomenal getting any of your basically your license to to call out 2500 different terms or phrases that's that's that's crazy i can't imagine that many call outs so if you're a weirdo fan you like hearing an update such as that they are still facing production delays due to labor shortages not so much parts or anything else they just can't find anybody to work yeah the rest of america too yeah so it might work man i've noticed but speaking of uh part shortages and and labor shortages pre-pandemic food was better restaurants were better fast food was better that's food sucks now in america have you noticed any of that yeah and you know what i i kind of think you know you know this is just uh shooting from the hip but you know i think it's got to do with the labor shortages and different [ __ ] i think that it's literally and maybe production or supply because you're not able to maybe get the the original ingredients or some herbs and spices yeah the herbs and spices 11 original herbs and spices that's right um but like i also think maybe you don't have the qualified people making your food maybe they've had to retrain people maybe it was somebody at your favorite restaurant who actually just knew what they were doing at that time that sort of thing yeah and that's like that's the issue i don't know i agree with you though like oddly enough i agree with you like i there is a place and i will not name it um that i i loved i know you did all the time okay yes that i went to all the time um and you know the place i'm talking about i just don't want to bash them on here but their food went to [ __ ] dude it went to [ __ ] like you still go there and drink a shitload of beer though no i don't even go there anymore and i hate it because it's it's not like it's not far away by any means but it's just like i'm gonna give it another chance uh i talked to chelsea about it a while back i'm like i'm gonna go back and give you guys a family meeting we'll sit down here are we going to we're going to give it one more shot that's the kind of that's that's the way our household is i'm like gather up the troops didn't you bake a cake this last week yeah [Laughter] craig is phenomenal baking these cakes every year for his his daughter's uh events whether it's birthdays or whatnot he takes a lot of pride and should because he's unbelievable i'm gonna put him on like cake balls or something he's fantastic with fondant uh with piping and everything and and this last you've made a harry potter cake i've seen you make it all and they're true like because i'm a really bad critic i tell you if they were shitty like stop posting that [ __ ] online it's not that great it's really good stuff but you didn't post this last one it was a spider-man what happened yeah well first of all time restraints a little bit was just it was bad decisions on my part and it was bad decisions on my daughter's part for wanting a peek spiderman cake that kind of ruined the uh the feel of it um because like dude like i do for for not to be like a baker or a professional baker to never really bake but once a year and i always go through like a mental breakdown too like i truly have almost everything because i have to talk to you during them yes for like two [ __ ] days like i about go insane because i put so much pressure on myself because you know how we do things like there's not mediocracy like like we want things to look good we want things like if i'm going to do something i'm doing it right now i'm gonna i want the praise like i want the accolades like i'm gonna put everything in because yeah yes and and i like that praise you know i'm not a bullshitter i'm not going to say they're going to what you say doesn't bother me that's right if it don't yes it does i want you to say that's a great [ __ ] cake that greg bone made so like well plus you've got your kids in 20 years to look back and look at the pictures of that cake and be like oh my god dad i remember that cake that's awesome and then their scrubby boyfriends being like oh that's really cool and be like [ __ ] off get out i'm not making they're not gonna be like you know what you want to date my daughter you bake a good cake that's right [ __ ] that's right so what happened like what dude it just turned out like ass like my wife posted two pictures of it and i literally made her take him down i censored it and made her remove it from her facebook because it was so awful man like i got i got shaky hands anyways i've never had a steady hand so like i tried to pipe a bunch of webbing onto a pink you know buttercream icing cake which buttercream is hard to get smooth anyway it's gotta make your own scratch modeling chocolate fondant i make everything from scratch and everything but this was just awful it just turned out like [ __ ] if somebody's going to either bake or decorate a cake is there one tip just one tip that you can tell them that people often overlook or don't think about when you're baking a cake whether again baking it for the taste or even designing and decorating a cake what's something that you think people really need to focus in on fondant use fondant use marshmallow fondant marshmallow fun is a lot more forgiving and a lot easier to make so if you ever want to mess with fondant don't look up just regular fondant look up marshmallow fondant and make your buttercream and don't use too much when you make buttercream so buttercream icing is nothing but powdered sugar and a [ __ ] ton of butter a little pinch of salt in there a lot of people don't add salt and don't use just milk use your heavy whipping cream in there or a half and half oh little half and half huh a little half and half yep yep and very little you'll want to put some vanilla in there never put any vanilla in there like that they call for put put like maybe a quarter of a teaspoon okay skimp on it you know baking tips from greg now baking tips from greg never baked me a [ __ ] cake but whatever [Laughter] so we talked about multi morphic what about pinball adventures you ever heard of punny factory i have heard a Puny Factory but i don't fall off they're still asking me where my pins at it's coming it's coming okay they reached out to us and said they're hoping to assemble and test 13 puny factory games over the next few weeks they said it's a slower process but the good thing is they're not relying upon this as an income they said they have a very successful business this is kind of just fun money and playing around with so they got they said 10 games per month is kind of the goal that they're trying to spit them out so they're not in any hurry they're having fun with it we'll see what they will see what they produce and they said look we're only making 120 units of punny factory anyway i think it's cute i think this is all great pr yeah us even talking about it you're welcome i hate to tell you 120 units of punny factory is about 90 too much i think maybe 12 at 12 units of punny factory you might sell i don't know the people at pinball adventures i don't have any ill will toward them this is just bad decisions but the whole theme is a bad decision i don't even care if it shoots great so you dialed in it's just a bad decision so if you're making it for fun in your garage that's one thing but if you're marketing it to sell that's when i say it's a bad decision because anybody in that entire building whether it's two to twenty people working on these things at some point should have stopped working and said i can't put my name behind this because it's such a shitty stupid theme this is dumb i'll be a little nicer like i agree with you on a lot of things it's gonna be nice for that crap well no i'm not gonna be nice to it i'm just gonna say so so if you were building it dick on it like that's more appealing than this like what is it it is terrible but listen like if 12 people came out until people said you know what i would buy that game and i'd made it for myself and i could make a few bucks off of it i'm gonna build the game now i'm not going to invest it's to invest anything into that game is ridiculous to me greg i'll give you a hundred dollars if you can find me 12 people within the week that think that's a good theme i will not take that back because i don't know if i can find them it's terrible i will agree it is very terrible but what's not terrible is a show coming out this weekend that you all should go to it's the northwest pinball and arcade show in the uh in the in the washington area the tacoma yes love all those guys up there with that i know june 3rd through 5th at the greater tacoma convention center uh greg and i fully support the show we want to see the show do great we love everybody that's uh participating in making this show happen we've heard great things so much so that greg you and i were going to go up there and make an appearance at this show we were going to work with the organizers to get up there to do some big things however something came up uh in our schedule and we have to do some production on something else so we couldn't make it up there which sucks because i've not been up there but all the best to the individuals running the northwest pinball and arcade show and maybe next year but damn i wanted to go up there so bad bone i do too man so many good people and i've heard such good stuff about that show it's like i i want to see it in person i want to hang out up there love you jerry craig i don't know if you've watched episode 100 last week but the emails the messages came pouring in and people said they've got a fever and the only thing is going to cure it is the best pinball segment in all of pinball podcasting in video history did you did you see the americana that was pmt i loved it we'll see if we can recreate this magic with a little bit more dazzle and flare in this week's rendition of pinball market trends i've ran out of gas failure trending down this week zach mini's bullets oh my vocals ladies and gentlemen i'm so glad you're here with me for pinball market trends i get a little perky i almost want to stand up to do look at that topic [Music] yeah for those of you not watching this rendition shame on you you can listen to the podcast but then you gotta at least come back to watch pinball market trends maybe also watch the whole damn thing because there's some fun stuff in here but nothing is trending up like pinball market trends oh wait a minute there there is something trending up trending out this week is pirates of the caribbean boom pirates potc baby wait a minute wait for it though not the jjp pirates of the caribbean in a turn of events ladies and gentlemen it is the 2006 stern pinball pirates of the caribbean shout out to dwight sullivan what the hell is going on nordman is infiltrating market trends right now because believe it or not numbers do not lie and i'm only here to report the facts for you beautiful wonderful people potc uh pirates by stern is taking a an up can craig do you even believe that maybe it's all the uh the johnny depp trial it's got people reinvigorating oh look at you you're gonna be in love with the dip you're going to be a market trender in training if you don't watch out yeah that's exactly what it is we've got the the pirates of the caribbean jjp game continuing to stay up really high there we've got current events that can affect the marketplace i promise you people and that is all johnny depp and his fantastic almost oscar-worthy performance in that court hearing versus uh what was her amber heard wow you were drinking pretty heavily were you there you poured yourself a um a mega pint of red wine correct a mega pint yeah yeah so yeah current events can affect the marketplace in products especially in pinball and you're seeing that now pirates of the caribbean a home use only pirates of the caribbean you're up you're really high on that we're in the seven thousands for a decent pirates of the caribbean by stern 7000 great remember when we first got into pinball you could have that thing for 4 200 bucks you remember that yeah and i kind of i wanted one too i really liked it i still kind of want one though i'm not gonna lie i do too like uh you know our our friend uh uh indie pen uncle larry oh yeah i had one in his house and that was the first yeah the first time i ever got and he sold it and i i wanted to buy because i just always kind of liked the game like it's got a lot of cool toys and stuff in it and like i agree i want one man and that looks good that's training up believe it or not you're gonna find really high end ones in the eights holy [ __ ] oh my god i know i know it went up like that yes it did i found i was like i'd like to you know own one of those again i was like oh [ __ ] maybe not yeah also turning up this week is stumblers tokyo neon sign mod for godzilla i know that many of you have seen this on pinside already because it is a thread that's been on fire since it's been started this is a new mod by stumbler he's famous for other mods as well but he is taking an interested list for this neon sign mod for godzilla the godzilla is like the new mod game everybody's modding the hell out of it but this sign is phenomenal i'm already on the list as well if you're not you probably need to jump on that list but you can see it in the thread go to pin side but it's a color changing mod for the for the scoop area and and then the oh he's got little backlit panels acrylic designs that you can choose from you see it you're going to buy it so you know viewer beware if you go to that thing i'm going to keep trending we talked about the social current events going on that can affect the pinball industry and it has in a big way in this week's training up also stranger things not not just the game because the game continues to be hot but holy moly mother of god greg bone have you seen what medicinal mods has been teasing for the stranger things game i did and it's kind of insane holy [ __ ] coming soon at the end of june i believe and you might see a video from straight down the middle pink uh i'm going to show this video right now greg of not just one mod but when medicinal mods puts their hands to something they create another experience for the entirety of a game and they're doing it again for one of my favorite games ever stern pinball stranger things they're creating a package a collection you transform the entire game which is what i've been wanting to do in the mod industry for a long time not just one mod but you transform a whole game he recently did that with america's most haunted from spooky pinball he's doing it for stranger things and there are things that i can't talk about and there are things not in this teaser video viewer that are the biggest parts of all but he's waiting waiting for those until later this is going to be phenomenal this game is phenomenal and did you check out episode one yet of the new season of stranger things yeah did you get to finish it i was at noon all night long it it was phenomenal greg it was the it was some of the cleanest filmmaking especially for a television series perfectly acted perfectly written the tone the cinematography everything was top-notch it was better than most films i've seen and that's just episode one they changed the tone entirely to to give tribute and and homage to the 90s and late 80s basically late 80s rain into the 90s but the the horror film series like um nightmare uh on elm street yep you know freddie and all of that friday the 13th they really paid tribute to that and this is now a dark little turn that i think works so so well and truly scary [ __ ] in episode one yes yeah it's almost like it like they took but it's not shocking it's not a shocking turn it's not something that that that is disingenuous to the franchise but it's just updated with their age and the times and it kind of has turned into almost like a horror a horror series like it works insanely good i swear to you it's one of the best tv series of all time and you're gonna see this pin continue to hold value you've got the medicinal package and the re-emergence of this series the last season this thing is on fire like no other stern pinball you gotta do us another small run of premiums you gotta do one i reached out i reached out to stern pinball one of my guys over there and said is there any way that you guys would consider re-upping this license even for a small like iron man vault type of run like come on and i didn't get it because the popularity is back and and that was a game that took so long to gain steam um it's sort of like what we saw with with jjp with with pirates you know by the time she really gained a lot of traction it was off the [ __ ] line and it was done and stranger things has done that dude and the prices are so astronomic like i saw pros at like eight grand and i'm like you've got to be kidding me man like because i wanna i want another one back like i went to wreck bar the other night and that was the only game that i played there that i stayed on like i played a few other games but that was the game i'm like i miss this so much i want this game back in my house man if you're interested in pro maybe you should subscribe to flippingoutpinball.com and keep your eye on the flipping out vault coming soon that's all i'm saying yeah that franchise is on [ __ ] fire right now it's unbelievable i was kidding girl watching it stays as good too through the next couple episodes at least oh i can't always be giddy though and things got to be real here on the pinball show pinball margaret trends training down this week is the market in general question mark uh oh wait a minute is the bubble bursting is it bursting maybe no here's what here's what the deal is i'm only reporting the facts here the market is not trending down per se but it's a living breathing thing as i always say and right now it's softening a little bit it's softening just a hair this thing was rock solid like you were in high school when you wake up in the morning like that thing is like a sledgehammer all i'm saying is that it's just a little bit more flaccid so it's not like it's still rock hard solid it's a build fort tough you know but it's just a little a little softer and the reason that is because it's the summer time right everybody's getting out and people aren't buying as much and uh and stern pinball is getting games out if you want to follow the marketplace follow stern pinball they're getting more 100 that's exactly what's going to dictate this market is is the the more that stern is able to keep up with production uh and so forth that that's what's gonna that that is literally i almost feel that stern single-handedly is what's driving the market absolutely until maybe that next jjp game but yeah so you're sticking up too so you're seeing a little softening the burble is the bubble is not bursting at all but you know games you're gonna see maybe a hundred two hundred dollar drop in games that they were two weeks ago that's all i'm saying still could go right back up again but that's what i'm seeing right now and i want to save you some money i want to burst your bubble in this week's deals of the week bye bye bye deals the week this weekend final pin side right now this one oh we're going to reach back into the wayback machine on this next deal the week on pin side it is a got leap game and scott leaves torch 1980 golly torch what the hell are you talking about here zack well they would venture to say that is tom test out of hagerstown maryland that this is the nicest torch ever seen or sold on pinside uh it's restored it's just a really clean example really nice example the play field is beautiful uh if you guys are into these older gout leaves i think it's a system what is a system one maybe i don't know what this is but yeah i think it is this game you don't see too often it's got a unique uh little wheel thing stand up target thing that you hit 29.50 it's hard to get anything for 29.50 much less one of the best examples in the world of and i don't hear people complain about this game too much looks like a fun target shooting type of game but i'm telling you for 29.50 the cabinet's beautiful the playfield's really really nice it's spectacular inside super clean it's just if you want a nice example the best example of something that art's good that's it you can't beat that come on and as a reminder to all of you that actually like money out there there's a thousand dollar bounty for finding me one of the nicest radicals there is it's all you got to do lead me to the promised land of uh of radical and if i fell on that radical hunt i send you a thousand bucks it's easy if you find me a hep one or if you find me a restored one with everything new i'll give you 1500 bucks i'll give you 2 000 i'll pay whatever's needed for that damn thing and as always ladies and gentlemen i'm just here to report the facts don't kill the messenger because numbers don't lie in life and on pinball [Music] all right greg thanks for joining the show that was phenomenal it was fantastic you were you were wonderful as always yo people like you more than me as they as they most often do where can people find you can find me on straight down the middle on youtube on facebook you can find me uh on the telephone and by email at flipping out pinball greg at flipping out pinball oh yeah talk about that real quick how is your you're in the industry now you're doing a lot of tech work you're talking to a lot of uh pinball people how's that experience been oh you know it's been good like um i'm thankful for the opportunity to finally get into pinball to be able to actually work in pinball not just media um not just what we do it's something i've kind of wanted for a long time and you know i'm still doing real estate i'm still working on on that stuff but you know sometimes you know you want to go and and work where your heart is as well and you know anybody watching this is obviously uh you know their hearts and pinball as well so you know to have that opportunity to work and to get into you know especially work for such a great company like you and nicole owns is phenomenal um and i get to work with my best friend so and again like what we talked earlier like we work so well together you know i don't think there was really any hesitation to go into it just because we know each other so well and and you know it doesn't seem like a lot of what we do and how we run straight down the middle and so forth but there's so much back and forth and behind the scenes and and equipment and especially when we do you know big reveals or we do something like we've done for jjp and companies like there's a ton that goes into that and there's a lot of back and forth there's a lot of disagreement there's a lot of things so you know we've we've been able to overcome that over the last five years and to grow so you know from a business perspective uh you know i i didn't hesitate and you know again it's just like one of those i'm super appreciative to be able to to have this job with you guys we've got a great team we've got a great team phenomenal sometimes tech issues that pop up are frustrating and they make you know they make owners just want to pull their damn hair out but i found that with you now partnering up with us and and working as part of the flipping out team like for me maybe this is selfish but tech issues that pop up are kind of fun to work through with you and the customer like it's kind of fun i'm like oh we'll get to the bottom of this let's figure this out we're both going to learn from this and uh it's been super positive for me you know i can only speak for myself but for me it's been awesome but you know some people might find it silly but you know i like i absolutely love this job like i love everything about it like it's just it's phenomenal to be able to work in pinball and help people and and again just to work with with you nicole yeah it's a dream come true we're living the dream man we're doing what we love and uh this is only only the start of it it is only the start because we're getting ready to [ __ ] take this company to the next level which is amazing like which is a part of the exciting part is growing it even further yeah i think greg's been a big help even in some of the social media uh stuff that you guys have seen from flipping out pimple that's greg bone all the graphics and stuff like that so thank you greg if you do need as a flipping out pinball customer if you if you need to help uh with your new inbox pinball machine or a game that you've got from us you can reach out to greg at greg at flippingoutpinball.com or at eight 812-802-9588 two ninety five eighty eight and we have very soon coming up the the flipping out vault i'm still working on that but that's gonna be a lot of fun product showcase this week is an avengers premium not that was training down or anything but avengers premium new inbox hey i don't lie to people i'm pretty transparent we'll get that out to you i think i got an extra two right now so we can get those out to you as well as we also have greg we got a lot of games in stock and roses les with the artblades toppers banners still insider connected kits pros and premiums not specialty kits yet those are coming uh batman 66 la pre-owned rush pro pre-owned i think i got another monsters pro in i'm getting a frankenstein sega in i'm getting a uh amanda pro i just got in pre-owned i just got in a star wars comic pro you don't even know about that one greg a star wars comic pro in uh on trade we've had a lot of things come in on trade still got deadpool le led zeppelin premium a tmnt premium a star wars le and elvira 40th here's the update for the elvira 40th you guys oh yeah zach's been sitting on those you guys seen a video with me delivering one up three flights of stairs along with two other games that was hell and subsequently the next day later somebody snagged up number 69 it's pending right now number 69 of elvira's 40th anniversary geez number 69 so fitting for that title and uh that's going to be a really good game for long haul value-wise i still have one left one elvira 40th anniversary left and it's the big one it's the one that matters more than 69 it's the one that matters more than the last in the run or the first of the run it is the coveted number 40. it's very special very special and it's such a neat game i haven't convinced myself greg after opening that one and seeing how beautiful it was not to open number 40 myself so you'll open it nicole will be so mad i swear to you she'll she'll like threaten divorce if i open number 40. i wouldn't stick it in the corner don't tell her she bought like if she bought a 30 40 000 handbag i'd lose my [ __ ] so yeah but you know what i always say so here's my thing too because i've had to fight with with my wife about this like the resell on pins is so good like you don't really like it's the one thing there's just not much like it may be classic cars but you still like if something breaks down or something hits it or does something it's so hard you know it costs so much still restore that pinball machines yeah yeah craig 100 board but i'm not i'm like 30 plus pins right now i don't need another game no you don't need it but it's fantastic to have it's i can't wait till you see one of those in person up close with that cap oh it's so damn good we've got shaker motors back in stock we even have golden tees get you a golden tee those things are oh golden tee's amazing super val like a very very price wise so much cheaper than the pinball machines so much so much entertainment there people are loving it and you get the free 2022 update once it does come out so let's get you one of those ordered i still have two ij deluxe toppers by elite elite pinball those are going to be you're not going to see those anymore once those are gone i'm the only one you don't have this yeah yes hey you know back to golden tea the one thing about golden tea real quick that i love that that's one of my favorite things about a golden tee is that it has like a randomness almost like a pinball machine um to it to where you're almost not playing the same game even when you play by yourself or something and it's a great game that you can play by yourself yeah so like i i think that that's one great aspect versus a lot of other arcade games uh that you don't get with those that you do with golden tee this yeah it's very sport-like i mean you there's a lot of strategy a lot of skill there but you're yes you're playing with the ball kind of still you're still dealing with the physics of a ball so i very much agree we've got banners as well merchandise as well escalares turnaround time is four months plus i know but something very cool is coming from escalator very soon that's all i can say it's in the prototype phases right now just wait just wait tp and last we get a triple dream pinball podcast on tpn as well as some wonderful magnificent streams i don't know what's coming up this week though i'm going to check to see what this week is i'm ready to hang out greg you're ready to hang out this week with me i am i said we need to record some more straight in the middle videos we've got some other recordings to do it's going to be a big week for us it is but it's it's a long busy week i hope you eat your wheaties hope you don't get your dick bit off by the alligator my friend ali is hungry or at least my legs broke by the tail uh whack me in the weiner oh for greg bone i'm zach minnie and don't lose your tater to a gator that's a good one and always practice safe pinball and the next time you're going to get really stoned and high just try not to go get that special k from a weird sketchy ass trailer park see you guys later come one come all it's the 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