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Fresh Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·1h 28m·analyzed·Apr 15, 2025
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TL;DR

Jersey Jack announces Harry Potter pinball in three tiers; Barrels of Fun reveal pending; multiple Ohio locations opening.

Summary

Fresh Pinball Podcast discusses Pin Brew preparation, Jersey Jack's Harry Potter pinball announcement (three-tier pricing: $10k/$12k/$15k), Barrels of Fun's upcoming reveal, opening locations (Finney's Arcade in Canton, The Lighthouse at Atwood Lake, The Arcade on Detroit in Lakewood), and regional food culture tangents (JoJo's vs regional potato sides).

Key Claims

  • Jersey Jack Harry Potter will be available in three editions: Collector's ($15,000), Wizard ($12,000), and Arcade ($10,000), with Collector's Edition having no unit limit

    high confidence · Official Jersey Jack announcement to dealers/distributors; hosts discuss as confirmed news

  • Barrels of Fun's next game will include shaker motor, their version of Invisiglass, and custom lighting system; reveal scheduled for Houston on Monday the 14th

    high confidence · Hosts confirm invitation to reveal event and discuss teased features

  • Spooky's Evil Dead includes anti-glare 'ghost glass' option at $250 upgrade, comparable to Stern HD glass pricing but for wide-body sheet

    high confidence · Zach Angeli discusses hands-on experience with Evil Dead setup with both standard and ghost glass versions

  • Stern has not produced a wide-body pinball machine in modern era (post-2000)

    medium confidence · Hosts discuss and invite listener clarification on last Stern wide-body title

  • Past Times Arcade lifetime pass costs $1,500; annual pass is $300; daily entry is $20

    high confidence · Hosts verify pricing communicated by Krista Liam from Pins Mechanical

  • Barrels of Fun acquired parts from Deep Root liquidation for Labyrinth build

    high confidence · Hosts cite Silver Ball Chronicles episode featuring Barrels of Fun discussion

  • Finney's Arcade and Parlor in Canton, Ohio had soft opening Friday with line outside when doors opened, operating 4pm-11pm

    high confidence · Corbin and hosts discuss firsthand observation of opening event

  • Finney's Arcade game lineup includes Jurassic Park, punching bag, and skee-ball among other titles

    high confidence · Corbin and hosts discuss observed equipment at soft opening

Notable Quotes

  • “So what they've communicated to us so far on these collector editions will be is it's not going to be limited in number. They want to make sure everyone that's a Harry Potter nut and wants this game can get the highest end version possible.”

    Host (discussing Jersey Jack's approach to Harry Potter Collector's Edition) @ Harry Potter announcement section — Key differentiation from previous JJP model; signals unlimited production intent for premium tier

  • “I'm probably going to eat it. So in regions that are not here, things that people usually get with their buckets of chicken. French fries, which I thought, okay, it's a potato. I get it. Whatever.”

    Host @ JoJo's discussion segment — Illustrates regional food culture tangent that consumed portion of episode

  • “So I thought that was interesting that so many people picked up on.”

    Host @ JoJo's discussion — Community response to previous episode's regional food discussion

  • “So Harry Potter news is starting to trickle out at this point. I think a lot of pundits and people believe they're trying to get ahead of the Barrels of Fun announcement, get ahead of the Stern announcement, the long-rumored, long-anticipated King Kong is kind of what everyone's talking about from Stern.”

    Host @ Harry Potter announcement context — Places Harry Potter announcement in competitive context with King Kong rumors and Barrels of Fun reveal

  • “I'm going to go in there and I'm gonna blow it up is what I'm gonna do grand champ that's right here we go you're just gonna walk over to Chicago”

    Corbin Angeli (about attending Stern reveal at Chicago) @ Stern King Kong reveal discussion — Host's enthusiastic commitment to attending major manufacturer reveal event

  • “The west side of Cleveland has been sad for a little while since 16-Bit left and moved to Ohio City, so I think this will fill a much-needed gap.”

    Host @ The Arcade on Detroit (Lakewood) discussion — Community sentiment about arcade venue gap and importance of new location

  • “So I think that's good news on that. They held firm on the pricing on that. They didn't raise. It's still at $15,000.”

Entities

Jersey Jack PinballcompanyBarrels of FuncompanySpooky PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyCorbin AngelipersonZach AngelipersonKylepersonKrista LiampersonStacyperson

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: Mad Pinball/Corbin Angeli managing significant distribution and logistics for multiple venue setups; family expansion into garagecade venue (Zach)

    high · Hosts discuss moving multiple games, truck logistics, and two-truck requirement for skee-ball delivery

  • ?

    community_signal: Finney's Arcade soft opening in Canton, Ohio attracted line of customers at door opening; location validated community demand

    high · Corbin describes firsthand observation: 'line outside when the doors got unlocked of people wanting to come in and play these games'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Jersey Jack Harry Potter announcement appears strategically timed ahead of Barrels of Fun reveal and Stern King Kong announcement

    medium · Host states 'I think a lot of pundits and people believe they're trying to get ahead of the Barrels of Fun announcement, get ahead of the Stern announcement'

  • ?

    event_signal: Stern preparing King Kong reveal at Chicago/Outgrow Village next week (Wednesday); long-rumored title finally reaching reveal phase

    high · Hosts confirm attendance invitations and scheduled event; Corbin committed to traveling to reveal

  • $

    market_signal: Multiple pinball and arcade venue openings across Ohio region (Canton, Atwood Lake, Lakewood); signals market recovery and regional operator confidence

    high · Three separate venue openings discussed in detail with active setup and soft opening phases

Transcript

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0:00
This breaks 200 millimeters a second. Fresh. Oh, shit. Play better. Fresh. Welcome, everyone, to Season 4, Episode 5 of everyone's favorite pinball podcast precious. It's my favorite, I guess. I'm going to introduce the people around the table. To my left, a very tired boss man, Mr. Corbin Angeli. How are we doing, Corbin? Doing good, doing good. Moving a lot of games. You know, I feel like that's a reoccurring theme for you is moving a lot of games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just getting everything ready for pinball.
0:56
It's going to be so good. We're going to take a pretty deep dive into Pin Brew this episode. And sitting across from me, Corbin's brother, Zach Angeli. Zach.
1:07
Flip. Fantastic. I was pretty excited when you texted the group earlier that we're pretty much on pace right now for the opening of the Zach Angeli Brewing Company Garagecade. Garagecade is, you know, it's in the opening phases right now. You know, I got Evil Dead out there. Got to unbox that yesterday. Such a good game. Loving it. Summer 2025. That pink-teal combo is just right. It is.
1:33
And to my right, on the board, running all the sounds that are soothing your ears, Mr. Kyle. I'm doing well, my friend. It sounds like we have some new buttons there on the board. There's some new buttons. I love them. Have some things been recorded?
1:56
I know that one. First pinball. Oh, that might be my new favorite. The boys got to have some fun with it. I like it. All right, let's kick this off with the fact check before we get into the main bounty of this plentiful episode. So pre-podcast, we'd received an email from Krista Liam, who was just out for the women's IFPA North American? I thought it was the universe. It was like champion of the universe? This is just still the continent level? Was it worlds? Champion of the universe. It wasn't. I think it's United States and then North America they do at the same time. So she was in the United States. So like Canadians and Mexico and Nova Scotia. She did pretty good though. She did. She won in the first round and then ended up being eliminated in the second round. And then our other sponsor from Pins Mechanical, Stacy, actually ended up placing fourth overall. That's impressive. Congratulations. Yes. I'm really bad at reporting tournament stuff, right? Well, so I did watch. I was on vacation. I was on vacation during it. So you didn't have any pinballs on your hands? Didn't have any pinballs on my hands, but I was able to log into Twitch, and Backhand Pinball did a phenomenal job of broadcasting it and having commentators and all of that stuff. So I watched a good chunk of it since Stacy went so far. Of course, I had someone to root for. Right. And then when it got down to the final two, and I don't remember the two participants' names, but one of them went up 3-0, and the other person came back and won four straight. Damn. Can you imagine going into that? That is such a – if you're down to that last game and then you end up, you're like, okay, I can just get one. Then you get another one. And then another one, you're like, no way, can I beat him? You were down three and you just – That's nuts.

Host (discussing Jersey Jack Harry Potter Collector's Edition) @ Pricing discussion — Notes stability in premium tier pricing despite no unit limit

Rob Burke
person
Past Times Arcadevenue
Finney's Arcade and Parlorvenue
The Lighthousevenue
The Arcade on Detroitvenue
Mad Pinballcompany
Ericperson
Pins Mechanicalcompany
Pinball Mapwebsite/organization
Backhand Pinballmedia
Silver Ball Chroniclespodcast
Nudge Magazine/Nudge Castmedia
Fresh Pinball Podcastpodcast
Don's Pinball Podcastpodcast
Zach Angeli Brewing Company Garagecadevenue
$

market_signal: Galactic Tank Force signature edition heavily discounted following poor sales; three units sold within month despite 'high, high, high-end' positioning

medium · Hosts note 'heavily discounted the price' and offer email contact for interested buyers; mentions three sales in month

  • $

    market_signal: Jersey Jack maintains $15,000 Collector's Edition pricing despite removing unit limits; $10k/$12k/$15k three-tier structure mirrors classic GNR model

    high · Hosts note JJP 'held firm on pricing' and 'didn't raise' despite unlimited production strategy

  • ?

    announcement: Barrels of Fun preparing major game reveal with shaker motor, proprietary anti-glare glass, and advanced lighting system

    high · Hosts confirm Houston reveal invitation and discuss teased features; mentions of feature parity/differentiation from competitors

  • ?

    announcement: Jersey Jack officially announces Harry Potter pinball in three-tier model with unlimited Collector's Edition production

    high · Hosts confirm official Jersey Jack announcement to dealers/distributors; detailed pricing and tier structure discussed

  • ?

    product_strategy: Spooky's ghost glass anti-glare option for Evil Dead priced at $250 for wide-body sheet, matching Stern HD glass pricing for standard sheet

    high · Zach Angeli discusses hands-on experience with two-glass setup and pricing comparison to Stern offerings

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Community speculation on Barrels of Fun next game theme: Dune, G.I. Joe, Goonies all mentioned as possibilities

    low · Host states 'the big rumors out there are Dune, G.I. Joe, somebody had said Goonies' with no official confirmation

  • ?

    technology_signal: Spooky Pinball advancing optical/lighting technology with anti-glare glass adoption; Barrels of Fun also emphasizing similar technology in next game

    medium · Multiple manufacturers incorporating high-end glass options; Barrels teasing custom lighting system as feature highlight

    • 4:00
    Once I was down 3-0, I would just be mentally crushed. That's what I mean. It would just be so hard to get out of that. It would be. That's awesome. Yeah, but congratulations to the location, all the participants, everyone that streamed it. It was definitely an awesome event. Do you remember where it was held? It was in New Hampshire. We mentioned it on the last episode, the name of the specific location. It was kind of hard to get to. It was. At least that's what she was telling us when she was describing her. It sounded like a real pilgrimage kind of a deal. So obviously she's based in Columbus for her day job with Pins, and then they were opening a location down in Austin. So her and Dave, who we work with at Pins Mechanical very closely, were down there setting the location, and then she had to fly from there to Boston and then commute in from Boston to this place in New Hampshire because that was like the most convenient airport. It was like a bus and then a train and a horse and buggy. Right. And then she was in some wild places after that. I saw she was posting from like... A few tut-tuts along the way. Of course. An arcade in Maine and all kinds of crazy places. Nice. So definitely very, very cool stuff. But my purpose of bringing up Krista was she had emailed us and had talked about that she had just bought a Past Times Arcade Lifetime Pass. Oh, really? So Past Times Arcade, Girard, Ohio, home of Rob Burke's. What's it like, 600, 700 games out there? He has a Guinness World Record, doesn't he? He has the Guinness Book of World Record holder for largest collection, no duplicates, only counting his non-duplicates. So she had said that she had bought a lifetime pass To Past Times Arcade So a normal entry if I go into play An all day pass is $20 If I want to buy an annual pass It's $300 How much do you guys think A lifetime pass costs? $1000 I'll go $15 $1500 from Zach nosed it $1500 for a lifetime pass Damn So if you're going out there on a regular basis For match plays And regular visits So when you go into playing a tournament You have to pay the day pass too then Correct So you said it's $300 a year $300 for an annual pass Correct So it'd take five years If I lived closer It'd be worth it I think that's a challenge I mean I would like to make it out there a lot more than I do If it was like 10 minutes away like totally worth it yeah oh yeah and i guarantee that they're going to be open in the lifetime of me i think being i compared to a lot of other places i have a lot more faith since rob's involved no i definitely have faith but you never know you definitely like five years worth of uh yep exactly so i thought that was interesting uh briefly we had mentioned on the last episode about if or spec speculating that barrels of fun used old deep root parts for uh the building of labyrinth coincidentally when i was listening to the barrels of fun episode on the silver ball chronicles they did say that barrels of fun did in fact use parts some parts that they acquired from the deep root liquidation on their build of labyrinth i mean i don't know i i have coils that I got and then some switches. You just got a few little trinkets. Yeah, you don't have to use them. They're like $20,000 to $1,200. They're common value. They just had some random plug on them so you just take the plug off and boom. They're super cheap. So have you guys been following along as Barrels of Fun has been slowly teasing their next game? I've seen like one thing. I don't know. Did we get invited to Texas? We did. We got invited to Houston on Monday the 14th They're going to do a reveal down there For distributors and I believe the media As well But they've teased so far that their game Their next game will include In the price of the game Shaker Motor Their version of Invisiglass And then they have some crazy Lighting system that almost looks like What Chris Turner did Around the frame I saw something about that but I didn't read it today Yeah, so those are the first three things that they've kind of revealed.
    8:25
    But nothing about theme? Nothing about theme yet. I mean, the big rumors out there are Dune, G.I. Joe, somebody had said Goonies. There are a bunch of different ones floating around. Dune would be an interesting license. What do you think of that spooky Invisiglass? Because you have it in that Evil Dead, right? Correct. So the Evil Dead, we got two show games, number 89, which is the one that you guys will end up routing after the fact. And then we received another one for the show specifically that then Jared Cook is taking home after the show. So we decided let's do one with standard glass. Let's do one with the ghost glass, and the ghost glass is legit because I had it set up in my garage. It's actually convenient too because then people can definitely see the comparison. If you want to see it, that lighting will be good to show it too. Is it bright at Pembroke? It is.
    9:17
    It's not that bad. It's not as bad as some. It's not like TPF or like even Kleepin where it's like fluorescent in your face. But I had it set up in my garage and I was playing with Belt King during the day and I had my garage door open with like the light coming in and it was fine. It was fine. No glare whatsoever. So it's definitely the good stuff. And I think what, $250 upgrade? $250 upgrade, which is a pretty reasonable price for a wide-body sheet of ghost glass or any sort of anti-glare, anti-reflective glass. Because the Stern HD glass for a standard piece is $240, $250, something like that. Right in that range. So you're basically getting a wide-body piece for the same price. The Stern's never done a wide-body glass HD. You can't order that. What's the last Stern? in modern Stern? Have they done a wide body? Oh my god. So like Guns N' Roses? It was Data East, but I mean as Stern. Yeah, the last time it was. No. Dear listeners, is there a, can anyone name a Stern title that was a wide body? If so, Zach, who should they email? Obviously Stern Electronics had some big data. I was just thinking that. Modern Sterns? Probably not. Because if you think about it, 2000 plus, it was all... What about... I was thinking about this game today. Will Nelly?
    10:42
    Will Nelly. Was that Will Weibody? Standard. No, that's... But they were in the pinball dying time through then, so they weren't trying to do anything crazy. Why, Body? No.
    10:51
    No. I have been playing that game that everybody hates in my basement lately, and it has that crazy whatever glass and whatever upgraded glass. I didn't believe in it. Yeah, GTF. Oh. Okay, let me – That's a cool game. Make a fuck off. A little public service announcement about GTF. Well, I'm just saying the glass is legit. So you got your deluxe, and then we had an opportunity. We brought in four of the Galactic Tank Force signatures. This is the high, high, high, high-end tank. Is the lunchbox in there and everything? Lunchbox, Banner, Thermos, you name it. Thermos. Like a thermos? I bought both of those on their website for $30, by the way. And this is the one that has the hand-painted toys on it, the lenticular back glass. I was looking the other day, and I'm like, those are pretty cool. You want one? Make a deal. We've sold three of those within a month. Maybe we just open the other one. It's impressive. And they've heavily discounted the price. Yeah. I mean, it's been heavily discounted. I mean, if you're interested in picking one up, I think there are more still available from Americans. So email Corbin at MadPinball.com or Jeff at MadPinball. Give me the GTF traffic. We'll get you hooked up. I love it. I do like it. The sad thing is no one's going to buy it right now because everyone's all jazzed up about Harry Potter. Three of them, man. Three of them on the eve of these games coming. Yeah.
    12:17
    Well, you guys brought it up, Harry Potter. That's the big news of the day as we're recording this, as Jersey Jack had said at TPF that it was the next game. Today, Jersey Jack reached out to their dealers and distributors and said, hey, this is official. Here's some information. You can start putting this information out there. And that information was, Corbin?
    12:40
    No, Harry Potter's coming. It's coming. Three editions they're going to do. So they're going back to GNR times of having three versions. So the highest end. So what did they do? They skipped that for three games? Two games? No, Elton. Elton, Avatar. Avatar they didn't, and Godfather they didn't. And Toy Story. And Godfather. That was four. Four games. I'm surprised they're going back to this model. I think it's interesting. I think it'll probably do good, but it makes it a little more affordable. I think this arcade version is going to sell very, very well. I think the GTX is still a better bang for your buck right now. Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. So three versions. It's available now. Available right now. Bye-bye-bye. All of it. The collector's edition of Harry Potter, which will be normally in the past they had restricted that down to 1,000 total units. So what they've communicated to us so far on these collector editions will be is it's not going to be limited in number. They want to make sure everyone that's a Harry Potter nut and wants this game can get the highest end version possible. Are they doing kind of like a spooky kind of a model almost? like do you think like is that how we're kind of comparing it i know they didn't say like a number total they're making but like they're just gonna say if we get if we get 10 000 orders for these ces we're gonna make 10 000 of them is that like basically the understanding is yeah is up to it's not going to be limited by number but more or less probably by time you know hey we're going to build these for okay 12 months 18 months two years whatever that amount of time is and then when that time elapses okay we're going to assume that everyone who wanted one got one yeah so That's the collector's edition. So I think that's good news on that. They held firm on the pricing on that. They didn't raise. It's still at $15,000. So then their middle version, what is normally their limited edition. It's only $15,000. Just $15,000. No big deal.
    14:31
    Or a nice car. Used car, you know. The wizard edition is the middle tier. Wizard, Harry. This is the one that in the past they were limiting to 5,000 units. and I'm not sure that this is necessarily the case on this one either. Guns N' Roses was the only one they ever did 5,000 of, right? They did, yes. Which is a cool model of it, that middle model. It's amazing. I mean, you picked one up or we picked one up on trade and you put it out. I mean, what did you think? I played a couple games on it. It seems cool. Yeah, it's very cool. I like that one. We played one somewhere for a while and that's when I kind of really got into it. I feel like when we were setting up games when we were doing some stuff at Pins. Yeah, because I got in some cool modes on it. Yeah. So the middle one will be the Wizard Edition. That'll be $12,000. And then they're coming back to having the operator location version of it, the arcade version they're calling it. And I would expect that that one would have some mechs taken off and things of that nature to bring. So it's going to be the Pro, basically. The Pro. It's a very comparable structure. So $10,000, $12,000, $15,000. But you're not actually limiting the best one. You are not. I wish they'd all just, as an industry.
    15:40
    Standardized names? I was listening to Silverball or something the other day and they were like, oh, Ellie, the original Stern Avatar one. And those were like, there was 250. Yeah.
    15:52
    That's actually an Ellie. That X-Men we had, I think that one was like 250 of them. Yeah, it was like number five or something. But on that one it was interesting. They did 250 of the Magneto version and then 250 of the Wolverine version. Okay, so they still did 500. Well, do they do them all at the same time? Do you think, and could you order like, you know, hey, I want an Ellie. okay, do you want the Magneto or the Wolverine edition? I hope you got that. I almost want one that's like the Transformers one where it's half and half. I always thought Transformers LE is always one that I feel like is a deal of a game. We'll end up with one. I have no doubt about it. And it has that sick powder coating where it's like that. The split. It's just like a red on one side and a blue on the other side. I think it's so cool. Is that a George Gomez? It is a Gomez, yeah. It's just that Photoshop era, though. You could trade like a pro for one. There you go. Hey, if you have any Transformers you want to get rid of, shoot us an email at freshpimballatgmail.com. Yeah, so Harry Potter news is starting to trickle out at this point. I think a lot of pundits and people believe they're trying to get ahead of the Barrels of Fun announcement, get ahead of the Stern announcement, the long-rumored, long-anticipated King Kong is kind of what everyone's talking about from Stern. it sounds like um dealers and media are going to have an opportunity to go out to outgrow village next week uh wednesday tomorrow yeah a week from tomorrow from when we're recording to go out and check out uh what the next game is and find out is it that that long rumored title or is it something else is it are you walking out no matter what it is i'm gonna go in there and i'm gonna blow it up is what i'm gonna do grand champ that's right here we go you're just gonna walk over to Chicago Yeah Check it out You know If I leave now I should probably make it There you go Maybe Definitely Need like A camel pack full of The proper pH water Really comfortable shoes We switch it out for Red Bull He never knows Oh man It'll give him wings You got there in three days Three days Three hours Amtrak That's your best bud buddy Just make it to Alliance Make it there by 2am That's all you gotta do So an interesting Fact check item From the last episode that I was totally not expecting was somehow we got on the subject of JoJo's. Oh, yeah, I can't remember that. I think we were talking about gas station food, this, that, and the other, and somehow it came back to JoJo's. And got some interesting messages, one from Don of Don's Pinball Podcast saying, what the hell is a JoJo? Really? And I explained it to him. So he's originally from Cali. That's where he grew up. Yeah, he's from LA. They have those out there, right? They do not. No. He told me his – How the fuck does Northwestern just make a million bucks on JoJo's? Because wasn't the whole conversation with their only Ohio thing or something? It's really – like Ohio, West Virginia, Western – like it's very regionalized. Very specific, yes. Okay. So he had said that – and I said, okay, well, then what do you order with your chicken when you were a kid? Like what did you get with it? Pizza, chicken, and cheese. Right. And he said our spot when I was growing up was Shakey's Pizza Parlor, and what you would get with it would be Mojo. A mojo. So I, of course, go to... Is that a potato also? It is a potato. Did you order some JoJo's and send them a picture? Some authentic... So I go to Shakey's website because, of course, you know, that's who I am. And it's the famous Mojo Potatoes. Shakey's is home of the iconic, craveable Mojo Potatoes. Lightly battered, seasoned to perfection, and deliciously golden brown. I mean, they sound pretty fucking good. They're like chips They're like discs basically Mojo's He looks excited Crush fries Hands down Did you like Order some in Like you know Get it shipped here for us Or what No but I did book I need a visual A flight So I can go And check it out Where are you just out there Tia I'm using the points They're kind of like They kind of look like Like potato skins It's like a potato Potato wheel Or like a It almost looks like Waffley A flat ruffle I bet they got some good structure to them. That's just a thick-ass chip, though. I would eat it. Okay, so obviously we're all from here. We all know JoJo's. I'm assuming we all love JoJo's around this table. Do we have any anti-potato people here? Give me some honey mustard. Okay, it's a tot. I'm probably going to eat it. So in regions that are not here, things that people usually get with their buckets of chicken. French fries, which I thought, okay, it's a potato. I get it. Whatever.
    20:34
    Coleslaw made a lot of sense to me. I could see that. We could see menu has all this stuff. Exactly. Mashed potatoes. Yeah.
    20:42
    Macaroni and cheese. What about a potato wedge? Did we classify that as a JoJo or not? It's like a mini JoJo kind of. I'll call it mini JoJo. So how big is a JoJo versus a wedge? A JoJo is you take the potato and you just like fourth it. Like pizza oven style. Let's call it eighth. I'd say pizza. And then you bread it, and then you deep fry it. Some might be halves. Delicious. Green beans, corn, and biscuits. It sounds like KFC's menu, for sure. These are all the things that I guess normal people get with their buckets of chicken that aren't from Ohio.
    21:16
    So I thought that was an interesting thing that so many people picked up on. Interesting. I would not. We have a lot of people not around us listening. Well, there was a lot of controversy, too, about Sheetz, Wawa, Casey's, all of those.
    21:32
    So, friend of the show, Chris. Long-time friend of the Angelis. We should have a trailer update for today, too. Long-time emailer. I've done a lot of trailer repair.
    21:45
    So in the most recent, I'm quoting Chris here, in the most recent episode, the question was asked, Sheetz or Wawa? Growing up, everyone in Canton is always Sheetz. It's the only thing available, after all. Now that I live in Maryland, we have both, and I find myself going to Wawa more often. Maybe purely a convenience thing though since they are closer and more available Hashtag fake news Both have pretty excellent qualities though The Sheetz fries mozzarella sticks and chicken sandwiches are always amazing and the Wawa sub-sandwiches make for a pretty great and cheap lunch. Their apple fritters are also amazing. Three exclamation points.
    22:32
    I guess I may have been converted to a Wawa fan. Still have Sheetz love, though. honorable mention here we've lost your sheets card royal farms for their chicken so if you guys are ever out and about and you see your royal farms stop by get some of their chicken and maybe jojos i don't know speaking of chicken have you tried genie knows chicken tenders yet oh no they're pretty good okay i like their breading on their jojos so it would make sense that i would it's It's good.
    23:00
    But he said at Royal Farms, no JoJo's. I get looked at weird for saying that instead of potato wedges, but damn, I miss those Krauss JoJo's. Clearly the best ones available. I'd also accept pizza oven.
    23:16
    Oh, Chris, keep sending us emails. I love your emails, buddy. All right, a few more little fact check items here before we get into the meat of this episode. I wanted to shout out Finney's Arcade and Parlor Oh yeah Had the sneak peek This last Friday And Corbin Play better The people came to play So it went from 4pm To 11pm And there was a line outside When the doors got unlocked Of people wanting to come in And play these games It was absolutely unreal yeah yeah they came they played they emptied the change machine several times they did i'm glad you know i think it all went very well obviously there's bugs that are you know getting worked out of it and i'm glad they're gonna have their liquor license i think you said today you saw they officially they got it yeah they had their health inspection for the liquor license and got all uh check marks so next week then they go full four hours yeah so what is it the 16th i believe it is they go for their soft opening wednesday i think so yeah because it looks like their plan is to be closed on mondays and tuesdays at least for the time being so yeah wednesday the 16th it'll be the the soft opening where they'll be open for regular hours so get out there and play some pinball play some ski ball some jurassic park that punching bag was getting a workout on friday all kinds of dude what a lineup i was i mean i've seen all of those games before not in one freaking place currently so of all those games there is there a single oh hi Corbin Corbin's headphones weren't plugged in I was like man everything is so soft tonight I looked down the board and I could see not in all the way that was the loudest I'm going to be the whole time you have been at a pretty good level I can sit back here now but Corbin you had sent me an interesting what was it this week in pinball had uh shouted out finney's and it was just bizarre i think it's because i uh i know the circumstances but it was still weird guys i think the pinball map guys are mad at me so you had submitted back in what january like hey this place is coming here at the time i thought we were two weeks out yeah and so i i had submitted it because i thought we were two weeks out from opening and it was all good and that's what the green light were saying and so I submitted it, and then they were like, oh, you know, you violated the things. We deleted it. You can't put it out this early, blah, blah. Things change. And I'm like, all right, that's fine. No problem. You know, no worries. And they were right, obviously, because then it's been another how many months. In your mind, literally, you have those games sitting there. And it was kind of like, it's ready to open, and here is the lineup. Exactly. Yes. But it was interesting the way they constructed. And so then anyway, we went back and forth a couple times, like a month later, like, you open it, you open it. No, no, no. So anyway. Aha, totally. Well, finally opening, so I listed. And so then they commented, and they said like, I don't know, I didn't even understand the whole thing. It was more or less, hey, Finney's Arcade and Parlor, downtown Canton, Ohio, check it out. And then goes on for like three paragraphs about why you shouldn't submit things early on to the pinball map. Because delays could happen, and this could happen, and the other could happen. I know they probably don't listen to us, but if they do or anyone who knows them, tell them, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to have beef. I love everything they do, and I'm a lifetime supporter. I bought stickers. I don't know what else. I'm sorry, guys.
    26:53
    They seem personally offended by whatever you did. I think they do, and I didn't mean it that way. I was just trying to build the hype. I don't think I responded too rudely, but I don't think I did. While we're talking about new and opening locations, we had mentioned the new project down at Atwood Lake, and the name of the restaurant down there is The Lighthouse, and that will be at the West Marina. So that's the name of that. They're already open, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. It's open. Seven days a week now. So what did you end up doing for pinball down there, Corbin? So pinball-wise down there, we've got a real diverse lineup. Yeah, toy stores. Popeye. Yeah, yeah.
    27:31
    Guns N' Roses, Data East. Yep, yep. Cyclone. What did you do, Beatles? Beatles, yeah. Beatles, gold. Did anybody say Popeye? Yeah, I said Popeye. Well, it's got to be said twice. With those Art Blades, baby. Let's go with those Art Blades. Yeah, so got those, got an Air Hockey, got a Basketball, Golden Tee, Pac-Man Galago, Dino Crane. Yeah, all kinds of goodies. Go play the ATM.
    27:57
    You're always a winner. Did you get any food down there yet? No, every time I've been down there, I was down there talking with him one day. He was smoking some meat that looked real good, but I'm down there before he opens, so I'll have to go down there.
    28:11
    in the afternoon and evening one day and get some food. It's a real nice spot, though. It is a huge dock in a porch. Right on the water. It's a shared building, so one side is the restaurant with the game room, and then the other side is where you can go over and rent a pontoon. Or you can rent it, and then you can buy one. Stop by and see Eric, who is a new Mad Pinball customer. He just bought a Jaws Pro from us recently. Stop and either really help it. Yeah, buy or rent a boat from Eric. Freshwater Lake. Yeah, obviously So this weekend we have Pin Brew And then it's looking like the following weekend Is going to be the Lakewood Project Which now has a name and a logo By Lakewood Project you mean like They're going to open It's happening They do, yes, they have a name and a logo The Arcade on Detroit, Lakewood, Ohio They were finishing up What, some carpeting you said today? Sick carpeting And then that's going to be moving on to getting some equipment in there. Yeah, so the carpeting guy was finishing today. They were doing some painting, some really cool stuff. They got to do a bunch of cleaning, finish the lighting, things like that. And then I guess we got to set games.
    29:23
    The final piece for the arcade will be to have some games. Happy to say two skeeballs got moved in today. That's a big piece. That is. That's a power move. Those are major, major. Two brand new. I got some pictures of these things on the truck. They are. is it the same set that you put at finney's yeah awesome yeah we had to take two trucks so oh yeah okay i have a couple funny that logo here's a logo on this this truck it was independence excavating and it says earth today moonlight moon tomorrow we'll move the earth to the moon oh yeah it's like oh okay anyway so yeah like fuckers are tall man yeah they are Yeah, I mean, you saw them on the thing. Oh, boy. Yeah. That's no joke. Yeah, Flo and I took one and then the other. So is it chipped upright? Yeah, so they're standing. So, like, the lane is standing up and then the head is standing up behind it. And they're, like, bolted to the long pallet. Crazy. So, yeah, we got them moved in. Pretty cool. And we saw Jeff's side hustle, too. That was on that truck, yeah, Jeff's Candy Shop. When you took the van away from me, what did you want me to do? I don't know. I left you no choice. I figured you had that truck, though, for the bigger loads. I needed options. Here's the logo.
    30:37
    That's kind of nice. Definitely going to be a cool spot. The west side of Cleveland has been sad for a little while since 16-Bit left and moved to Ohio City, so I think this will fill a much-needed gap. I know the community is excited, and we're excited. Everyone's excited. A lot of excitement, so that's coming very, very soon. um two last major-ish things here for the fact check will be the nudge cast yeah that's exciting so the gentlemen that do nudge magazine and then the nudge podcast the nudge cast had reached out to mad pinball i don't know maybe about two months ago now and we started conversations of it's been a little while of working together obviously everyone around this table but corbin and Zach especially have been big time Nudge magazine card carrying members of the whole situation so we've obviously met briefly before at Expo and other places to where there was already some ground work laid there and now it looks like we're going to be working together with we're going to sponsor their podcast and they're going to have their own little referral code and going to do some swag and all kinds of cool stuff so we're excited to align with some other positive... You can put that in there and you can get something random.
    31:59
    That's the only time it's ever been mentioned. That coupon code? Yeah. You never know what you're going to end up with.
    32:06
    Have I ever told you that I do that with abandoned checkouts sometimes? What's that? You say random codes. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't use random codes. So if you go on to madpinball.com and you put something into your shopping cart, I then get an email that says, Zach Angeli put a whatever pro An AIQ pro into his shopping cart And didn't decide to buy That's impossible it's vaulted Whatever it is And I get an email and I'll usually reply Like hey did you have any questions or whatever else Every once in a while I'll just mail them a shirt Or mail them stickers Or mail them whatever And these people are probably thinking like Why is this creepy creepster Sending me How did you get my address How did you put it in A lot of times No, they don't have to, but a lot of times it's in there. They make a little account. Yeah, they create an account. Which is so random. Like, why? One time I did it, and I forgot. And so it was George Gomez, best name in pinball, the guy out in Reno, Nevada. Every time I think, you know, George, George. Every time I see him on an order list, I'm like, George is getting a game again. He's like, I guess he gets something from UPS that says he has a package on the way or whatever. So he's like, oh, what did you guys send me? I'm like, I don't know. I don't remember what I said. And he gets it, and it was like maybe you'd send him stickers or something with his RAM kit or whatever. It's like you just never know what's going to show up in your mailbox for Mad Finball. That's true. So if you're cruising the website at 3 a.m. and you throw a new in-box game or a T-shirt or whatever into your cart, there's always a chance that I might just send you some random crap. Make sure you put your address in if you want it. Yeah, exactly. What if we start sending accessories to games people don't have, and then maybe they're just like, well, I've got to get the game now. Shit, now I need a Venom. I feel like it should just be a random grab bag, though. Like, you need to keep spent coil stops and other things, and then I can send those out to people. Just our trash? Yeah, whatever it is. I have boxes. I have a very... Have you checked your coil stops today? Have you checked your coil stops? Just with a business card or whatever else. I'm not sure what we're trying to sell here. We're not... I mean, that's kind of us, though. Like, are we really ever trying that hard to sell? anything or just obtain more pinball pinball art so the final item here the fact check is spooky pinball and pin brew so yeah yeah exactly so corbin went out to the fedex dock what friday and what'd you pick up yeah uh the two evil deads so one set up a jeff's uh one set up out here in Zacks. It's sick. And then we also picked up a Texas Transylv massacre. The spicy one? Spicy edition. So there's some serious buzz at this point about this spicy version. So we shouldn't even talk about it. I think we should at this point. We're like two days away. Are you going to post this on Thursday morning? I'm going to post this, I think, on Thursday. Wednesday night, Thursday morning. So people will be hearing this on their way to Pinbrew. Does Pinbrew start Thursday night? Thursday, VIP start at 3, regular doors open at 4 o'clock. Oh, they moved it up an hour. Yeah. So talk a little bit about this spicy Texas Chainsaw Massacre, how it came to be, what it ended up. Okay. The end result. I like it.
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    I'm doing a few things to it still, but I dig the way it's turned out so far. So essentially you approached Luke. We did, yeah. We were down there. Pinball at the beach. We had pinball at the beach, and we said to Luke, hey, man, do you think – we kind of came up with this idea. So let me back up a step here. We had a Texas. Yeah. We had a Texas change-off. And Jeff decided that there's not a lot of stuff on the website. I'm going to list this game that nobody's going to buy. So he puts it on the website. So literally the week I decide, I'm like, well, we'll just keep it. We're like a couple months out from Penber. I'm like, we'll just keep it for Penber. What's the big deal? Took it over to Keith's. Within a couple days, Jeff's like, hey, I sold that. Literally the same day he dropped it off at Keith's. It was the same day. I'm like, hey, man, the website sold that game. Yeah, the website sold it. He probably mailed this guy a Texas Chainsaw DVD set or something. Anyway. On accident. Amazon primed it. I actually sent him some old Girls Gone Wild DVDs. Oh, my God. Oh, okay. Well, that works.
    36:23
    VHS, dude. What are you talking about? VHS. I don't know. VitaMax. Hope you got something to watch this with. Anyway, so he sells it. So this is right before we go to Pinball at the Beach. So then we're flying down to Pinball at the Beach.
    36:39
    And should I give any clues about what it's going to look like? Yes. Okay, okay, sorry. Fuck them. If they want to see it, they got to come see it. Most 99% of the people who are listening to this are not going to be able to go. Come to the Metroplex in Girard, Ohio, and you get to see it. I'll just give some of the dates. We had also seen a standard edition Texas earlier. at pins they just opened and we were like man the standard edition art is cab it's the true le bro it is it well and i guess yeah it really is too but um so we're like it looks pretty cool and so then we're flying down to pimp all the beach we're like man we just gotta talk we gotta get a standard edition i think so we start talking about getting standard edition because the other one's gone we need one for you know pin brew and uh yeah so we end up talking to luke about maybe we don't do it Maybe we don't do the powder coating. If we just leave it raw. Can you just leave it raw for us? And we were just going to have someone powder coat it local for us. Our buddy. Our buddy Adam, who will have samples at Pembroke to see all of his powder coating capabilities. I don't know about all of them, but some of them. Some of them. Whatever. Yeah. Anyway, he's like, yeah, we'll just leave it raw. So the next day we're talking to him again. And he's like, why don't you just pick out what color you want and just send it over to me. And my brother will just powder coat that color for you. So that's how Spicy TCM was born. It's essentially a factory standard edition that they then customized at the factory for us slash you with a bunch of really cool powder coating and everything else. And I've not even seen it in person yet. So my first time seeing it will be when it gets set up at Pin Brew. I've seen some like Corbin's like Anna's taking pictures of Corbin in the games in the background or like Bigfoot blurry pictures. I've not really seen it yet, so I'm pretty excited. Real foggy. I think it's that picture of a half set up with the legs. They're lighting cameras in the bedroom again.
    38:40
    No. Between certain hours. So yeah, Spicy TCM will be there. two Evil Deads, your number 89 with the upgraded topper and no ghost glass, and then Jared Cook's CE with the flat plastic layered topper that comes with it. Did he buy the topper? He won the topper. Oh yeah, that's right. He won the topper. So you guys have an extra topper and I'm sure that's sold already.
    39:09
    So you can get the... He didn't buy the game without the topper. So we just got his without the topper and said it was hey this is Jared Cooks he won the topper so we didn't have to pay for it he didn't have to pay for it well obviously but didn't the boxes the pictures that are out there aren't they both with the extra topper so they shipped his topper with his hand we told them it was for him so they shipped his topper well I thought maybe he had it already well that's kind of the running joke I kind of would have thought he would have had it too honestly until they shipped it with it dude did you pick up those boxes for the topper They're as heavy as a Stern home pin Yeah I did actually It's insane We're just leaving it in Canton we're not taking it out there with us The one for him? The one for him I figured we would take out Okay I'll throw it in the trailer So his game will have the standard topper Ghost glass That look And then yours will have upgraded topper Standard glass So the folks that are out there playing it Will be able to see two different Two different set ups which would be pretty cool. Definitely. What a well-oiled machine out there.
    40:20
    They're shipping that like that, and, you know, hey, Corbin, here's your spicy TCM as well. Yeah, they have it together. They definitely do. I'm very, very impressed, I know, with the Evil Dead that I unboxed and set up. You know, we always joke of how we do it every day, and it's whatever, and usually we'll set one up in, like, literally five minutes and kind of move on. You took your time. I really did. I took my time with everything. It was probably about 30 minutes I took to set it up, kind of going through everything. Did you get dressed up? I wore a little tuxedo, the bow tie. Oh, like theme matching, I'm talking about. No, I should have. Like Avatar, you know, like Don did. I did manage to deadlift it on my first try. He's never seen it. I've seen Army of Darkness. That's the only one that I've seen. I've never seen it. Oh, I've never seen it either. What is going on at this table? What is wrong with you guys? Do you have it? I don't. Oh, I was going to say, if you have it, I'll watch it. Maybe we should watch it out at Pember. I told you. You want me to bring the projector? Yeah, bring the projector. Throw it up on the wall. It's going to be a little chilly, but we can do it. It's supposed to be warm by the weekend. It's supposed to be 70s by the weekend. No, it's not. We'll do it inside. No. We'll take up more space for our movies viewing. Yes. Perfect. 120 this weekend. We'll take up space inside for a viewing of Evil Dead. Oh, that's a good idea. I know. But the box on Evil Dead is super cool just outside of anything else, and there's a QR code on the box. Scan the QR code, and it takes you to like a 10-minute video of Bug taking you step-by-step of exactly how to unbox your game. That's awesome. It's super convenient. The box was super cool. Even the guys at FedEx were excited about it. They were like, you got three out here today, and two of them are in these white boxes. They're pretty cool.
    42:04
    They were very surprised to see me when I dropped off that Iron Maiden the other day. They were like, oh, you're still alive. I was like, yeah, yeah, just rolling around. But no, I thought the boxes were cool. I enjoyed taking my time on it.
    42:19
    It's like a Jersey Jack to where the legs come without the levelers in it or anything. It was just, I don't know. It's nice every once in a while to truly just enjoy it and take your time, like taking in all the art and all the mechs and all the everything. It was a cool experience, and definitely. Speaking of the boxes, so there was the little nice image of every game they've made. I love those little badges. Very cool. They're pretty sweet. And Corbin and Hint-Ply pointed out that there was no... I don't think there's a Jetsons, right? I don't think there was a Jetsons. Because when I read through the list, I think everything else was there. You sent us a picture.
    43:01
    But that was the contract game. Right. So it's not their design. All of the ones that are on there are games that they designed. Are spooky. designed, whereas Jetson is a spooky bill. It was a contract. So it wasn't a spooky designer? Who designed it? I think Charlie designed it. I think he helped him still. But it was a contract.
    43:24
    I'd love to do an episode where we do... I thought it was like the pinball company. I think it was a pinball company. I think we've had this argument before. I know.
    43:33
    Here we go again. That deer are so brutal in that game, dude. They make fun of me so hard So I have a really big Missed a shot again I have a massive question Oh Is that the only massive thing You have? No Sorry We're all children Say what? Thank you Where's our Rob Zombie? Or where's our Alice Cooper? So I was in deep negotiations With someone And you didn't get it Who is already attending Pin Brew who has one in non-working condition.
    44:12
    So it might show up? Is that what you're saying? I would give it about a 10% chance at this point. Ooh, 10%. It in Pittsburgh so it not that far It not about distance and it more about value Yeah he is going to be high on it What is a taken apart what I would consider almost basket case Alice Cooper non I'm about 1,500. I'm like 1,500 value. Right. Maybe less. Maybe two. I don't know. Whereas the other party, the owner, is valuing it as low end of pin side for one that's fully working. Ooh.
    44:49
    That's a tough deal to make. I mean, I don't know. What do you think? $15,000? $200? They go for like $6,000 to $7,000, depending on whatever. I was thinking, this is a basket case. This is whatever, like $4,500? $5,000? Very generous. $3,000. This needs complete... $5,000. I feel like I see them for $5,000 on Pinside. No. $6,000 to $7,000. I get the emails. My printer failed, man. Oh, no. The new 3D printer failed.
    45:20
    Knocked off the leash. Good. It's not learning. What? So, Pin Brew is coming. Girard, Ohio. All the rest of Spooky Games will be out there. Yes. April 10th through the 12th. There's a possibility that Alice Cooper could be there. I wouldn't count on it. And even if it is there, it's just going to be to look at and nothing else. Oh, looking at pieces. We should, like, rip it off or something. Make it seem, you know, like a... We don't want a bad class or anything. We'd just, like, set it in its place. We'll have a trans light. Do you? Yeah. All right. Spooky sent us all kinds of cool stuff to give away. We could take Raven out there and just put Alice Cooper back. Oh, that'd be funny. Let's do that. Come by the booth. We'll be selling shirts, pint glasses. This is going to be the first real public. We will have the 3D printer out there. If your pinball breaks and you need a piece printed, we can try and help you out. Don't ask Zach to print it because his printer will fail you. And then you'll just have a bunch of... This is good. It's not learning. It's not becoming sentient.
    46:16
    We're far away from that. It was really freaking me out when it had its own webcam and it was watching itself. I mean, the other one still does that. This one will eventually. Creepy. It's got watching you right now. All right. So Corbin had brought up pre-episode what is in your tool bag for, obviously, for him operating. His tool bag, I think, is going to be much deeper, more tools, more specific than probably a lot of. I was curious. I was working. I was doing something one day and I was, I don't know, I was doing something and I was like, man, I wonder what other people have. Like, well, there's like a tool I went for and I'm like, wonder what other random tools people have in their tool bags that are like they cannot not have, you know, like must have.
    46:57
    What can you fix the most things with? You know, so I'm just thinking like, what do you, what's in your guys' bags? I'll tell you in your tool bag. What do you, what do you like using in my tool bag? Exactly. Or the thing that I've seen you pull out and go, oh man, I can't believe he had that in there. And that's like so clutch that he had that. So we're down in West Virginia. We're setting up that guy's Godzilla, new in box Godzilla premium. And he asked you to take a look at his WWF, Wrestle... Something. Fest, something, Wrestlemania, whatever. And you needed to re-pin a connector. So what is the tool that you pulled out? Your little thing that, um...
    47:35
    Your little re-pinning tool or whatever it was. I don't know. To pop them out? To pop all your pins? Yeah. I've never seen that before. Was it the barrel style? Yeah. I remember putting new things on there, but I don't remember what tool I had that was something weird. Yeah. I forget. It was like a pick. No, it wasn't for popping out the pins themselves.
    47:58
    Crap. Are you talking about the black thing that shoves them in? Correct. The black thing that shoves them in. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That thing is super useful. Those things are so nice. It's like, I think Pinball Life or Marco's has them. I thought I'd seen them on Marco's before. I think it's probably a Marcos tool, and it's just like a crimp. Basically, it's for the IDC, I think like 0.56 or whatever connectors, and you literally put the plug in it, and you can click it spot for spot and just line your wire up, and it pops it right into place. Yeah, you busted that out, and we're like done in two seconds. It makes it easier. So it holds it like each slot. Yeah. Then you hold it. You literally just pin one, pin two, pin two, three, four, five, whatever. Yeah, you can just slide it along and just slide the wire and crimp it, crimp it, crimp it. Of course, I go on to Marcos and I go into tools and there are like 60 pages of tools. Search IDC. It's the punch tool. IDC T-handle for .156. That's not the right one. That one sucks. I'm saying for finding it in five seconds, that's what I was trying to think of. It's a little bit more than that one. I did try that one, but just break that one and it sucks. So I was super, there's a punch tool. Is it that one, Corbin? I know. No. That one also sucks. That one sucks. I haven't tried that one.
    49:16
    I don't know, Jared. There's 60 pages, man. There's a lot of stuff. But I was impressed whenever you pulled that out of the tool bag. No, I went into the tool category. I'll be honest. That's not in my day-to-day bag. That's in my plug kit bag. Oh, and you brought that thinking, like, I'm doing a repair. There's a chance that I'm going to need it. I might have just had it in there by luck. Nice. you've also come through clutch before with your random little container of like hardware the random container is always clutch yeah because you always need random screws nuts washers stuff rattles off I mean I've even had the new in box like stuff like that are missing random nuts or lock wash whatever yeah you can't find it in the bottom I was going to replace the couple servos in that America's Most Haunted and I lifted the play field and I felt like a third of the hardware was in the bottom of the cabinet that's the best you find what You put it back together? Yep. Where does this go? Oh, right there. Interesting. So, Kyle, what's a tool in your assortment that you couldn't live without? Oh, I have spookies in my basement, so I need a hot glue gun.
    50:17
    I have the battery that works, hot glue gun. So Kyle is definitely known in the group for his battery-operated tool set, which is WORX. Yeah, oh, yeah. So talk about some of the tools that you have in the work set. Well, I mean, just the maker's ones are great. Yep. So you got your soldering iron. You got a heat shrink hot air blower. I have no idea what – like a – Like a heat gun? Yeah. Do you shrink heat right? I'm sorry. I wasn't sure what – You don't know what this means?
    50:56
    How do you heat it up, I guess. Yeah, hot glue gun. Yeah. Rotary tool. Yeah, yeah. I think I've used a lot. The first time you busted out the rotary tool and you're like, we were taking something apart. We're operating on American Pinball, probably. I think it was Party Animal. You're like, we were taking it apart. And you're like, yeah, yeah. You just twist it this way. Oh, no, no, no. That's a different tool. That's a different tool? That's a D-Wallet, actually. Okay. What is that one called? So that's a gyroscopic screwdriver. You want to get your mind messed with? Try to use a gyroscopic screwdriver. No, it's great because, like, especially if you do, like, a teardown. This is for, it's more of like a. If you do a tear down on it. It's kind of like a push and a.
    51:34
    No, you actually turn it. Oh, okay. And you can set it to a certain torque setting, too. So, like, if you're setting post or something, you can go through and just. And not over tighten it. And not over tighten it and then go back and check it by hand real quick. Which is good because I've used, like, my screw gun before on a play field and immediately. And it slipped and gouged the play field. Not that. But over tightened and snapped. Like, so reckless. I know. I never use power tools for assembly. Hey, man, whatever I have in the bag. I don't either, but I'll use that one. Press a wrench for everything, too. Needle nose pliers, thank you very much. Jeff just like quarter-inch impact.
    52:12
    Fly scripts. Is it in? Nope. Zach, what is a tool that you have in your bag or you're going to have handy whenever you're working on pinball? For pinball, it's definitely a soldering iron. It's very handy. And a solder sucker, too. yeah um but you're i mean really your basic hand tools you're always your your nut drivers screwdrivers files the uh your leaf adjuster yep oh that is that is super handy very clutch like an ignition file ignition file yep especially if you're messing with any of the em ship so soldering iron kyle talked about his works battery operated one i know corbin and i have talked before about there's a butane one that i had tried before i've seen them i had one it's not i never absolutely terrible it's impossible to get consistent temperature yeah even when i did automotive stuff all the time for me in the toolbox i just use the it's like a home depot $20 weller with a light on it which is yes one plug-in and a blast then you do what you need to plug it into the service outlet and away you just can't melt those cherry switches yeah yeah But what if you need to restore power to the machine, so you don't, therefore you don't have... Game next to it. Game next to the extension cord, the plug behind, the plug it's plugged into. Or just the battery. Yeah. There's a lot of times we have to go from one next to it or something for one reason or another. I do that all the time. It doesn't have one. Or the stir, like sometimes the new stir and spot's kind of inconvenient. Then like barrels of fondant put one in at all, which is... What the fuck? A little frustrating. But I thought everything was included. I forget what spooky games it is. I think it's like an actual plug. I think Halloween and Boring Man have the light switch cover. Yeah, yeah. It's like a household outlet. I think it's in Evil Dead. Texas has one, too. Yeah, it's got a special little plastic on it. Yeah. This is the plug of Doom or something. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. I love that they still put all the same little notes, though, on the inside of stuff. Even whenever I was putting together Evil Dead, it still had on the tang where it said, make sure this is tight often yeah check off it's like man this is like six games later and you guys are still like holding this up like we made a million of those stickers it's gonna be yeah we gotta burn through these guys in the 10 minute video that they did for the unboxing they say no less than like 10 times to make sure that you take all the foam and the tape off of the top of the of the play field before you power it on because apparently don from don's pinball podcast turned it on with all of that stuff on so he says make sure that you take all of this stuff off Don, Don, Don. And I was absolutely rolling. I thought that was hilarious. It was taped to the glass when I had to take off. I thought it was pretty clear.
    54:57
    I'll be honest when I say that I thought about turning games on without pulling that stuff out before. Well, I will say if I wouldn't have watched the video, I would have missed the piece of foam on Linda's spinning head. It said the piece of foam under Linda. In the video, but if I hadn't watched the video. No, on the sheet of paper. that was taped to the glasses. I thought you took like a half hour to put this thing together. I did, but I watched the video. It was right here. I don't think I got a sheet. It was in a bag, a sheet of paper taped to it. I don't think I got a sheet. I think they probably assumed that we were opening them together. So they probably put one on. Because I definitely did not have a sheet of paper. Because I'm looking at it and I'm going, man, I don't want to mess this up. Because after Don had his incident, I'm like, I need to be really careful. So then it was the hand you had to pull something? Correct. And the hand I thought was pretty odd. You could see it. Linda, if I hadn't watched it. It was hidden though. I didn't see it. And all the tape was pretty clear. What do you think about the middle finger mod? I was thinking about ordering it. It's pretty funny. It is funny. And I feel like the deer head one I think that people are making since it's in several of the modes and the animations and whatnot would be a cool mod. A lot of them are from the same guy who does the actual back alley creation. He does all the mods on it. Not mods, the factory mods if you will because they were talking about on bugs stream that like the cabin roof and the deer and several of them were made for the game but then to keep costs down several things had to be some of the stuff i think it's the discord that i see it that looks pretty cool corbin is very active in this you see me i commented i i posted a picture the other day i didn't so you missed it damn i when i first got on the discord i was kind of out of control and i was getting notifications every time someone was saying something in there, and my wife was like, hey, your phone is going nuts. That would be nuts. All the time. That would drive me insane. So I muted it now to where I only see things if Mad Pinball is mentioned.
    56:58
    So I'm seeing a lot less now. I thought you said you could just call your Jeffy. I mean, you could. I might see it, but it's unlikely. Jeff, Mad Pinball. So my tool bag has evolved over time. So whenever I was doing primarily arcade machine repairs, I had different things than what I have now. So like a hammer, a 2x4. A ball-peen hammer. A couple binder clips for those general plugs. So it's evolved from those two things to where it's like I always had like a switching power supply with me. I always had buttons. I always had a four-way joystick, like a lot of those sorts of easy, quick change-out parts and things of that nature. and now when it's a lot more pinball specific i have like the nut drivers and things before that i didn't have in my bag but the one tool and this is absolutely absurd that i use more than any other how can you guess that's been a recent addition to the tool bag probably in the last six months grandpa screwdriver i use that stupid freaking little start off screw jars yes i carry one daily literally like i cannot tell you how many times i'm like where is that little screwdriver man you know it would be perfect because it's this little angely stark stark novelty company jukeboxes and pool tables with the phone number paul w angely manager just picked one out yeah corbin has one in his pocket zach had one in his toolbox and it's one side is a flathead screwdriver and the other side is a magnet and i use these i have two or three all day long i I haven't had to move the machine shop all day long. Because it's small enough that you can take a Philips out with, a lot of Philips out with it. You can do a flathead with it. I mean, it's just, I use it, I use it a ton. I'll tell you a handy little tool. Starts to flex a little bit. You're like, that's time to upgrade a little bit. That gets made fun of sometimes. My grandpa would always say, he could fix like 75, 80% of calls with the fucking flathead. Oh, he's not wrong. I mean, imagine you walk into wherever. Baby channel locks. Baby channel locks? All right. Super useful. Can get into all kinds of tight places Yeah Oh look at these guys They're so cute Dude super handy How much do you owe the Snap-on truck? I don't buy any Snap-on tools How much do I owe Napa is the question Have you seen those videos though Where they walk around with the camera in the shop How much do you owe the Snap-on truck? How much do you owe the Macko truck? And it's like tens of thousands of dollars I love that light they get you caught man it's like a vicious circle that you it's like cole's cash you just can't get out of it no matter what you do oh my god the uh corbin knows what i'm talking about it's like lay the mill tooling that's what gets me man oh i need that ml this piece oh i want that and the next thing like shit see i'm extraordinarily cheap so i'm very much of if i'm doing this project and i know i'm only going to use this tool once i'm going to harbor freight all day and I'm going to buy whatever cheap whatever it is. But if it's something that I know I'm going to use repeatedly for the remaining decades of my life, I have no problem paying for a tool. For sure.
    60:11
    Decades. Corbin, what's another tool in your orange padded... In the orange? So I have a lot of different toolboxes too. I have a lot of bags or bins for specific things. I have my plug kit. Sure. I have my normal toolbox. In the normal toolbox, what do I have?
    60:30
    Normal nut drivers, screwdrivers. My miscellaneous parts bin, I would say, is definitely one of them. Don't you have those sick hollow shafted nut drivers? Yeah, for sure. The orange one? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Mine is super cool. It's way different than a normal nut driver that only take up, say, three-eighths of an inch. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, they're the hollow shafts. Yeah, yeah. They're all through for those nuts. They're not magnetic tip, though. It's the only downside. I bust his balls every time. I know he's sitting over there thinking it, but there is no magnetic. Just take a little electrical tape and wire it up. You rub it against the magnet before you do it. Because literally I won't even bring my tool bag because I'm just going to use out of Corbin's bag. And then immediately I'm like, wouldn't it be nice if these were magnetic? I like the hollow shafts, the hollow shaft for the longship. So, yeah, those are useful. We could put those just inside of that Oktoberfest that you have, run a few games through it, and then they would be magnetic. I'm telling you, they love Oktoberfest out at New Berlin. And I love that for them. I love that your repairs out there on that game are that the DBA is full, that the Bill Stacker is full. Oktoberfest isn't working? I guess I've got to go take the money out of it again.
    61:40
    You know, it is, if anybody ever wondered where to put an Oktoberfest, it's a German-style beer hall. Who knew?
    61:49
    So, David Fix, if you're listening, you knew it. We should get some barbecue games in barbecue places. Maybe we're missing it. Isn't that what he always said? I think so. Octoberfest was before him. Oh, damn.
    62:02
    Hey, we have a... Holy shit, I forgot. We have a Houdini. That is exciting. So, Red Button Smash guys out of Pittsburgh. Mike's going to be able to fit in on the trailer. We were talking about it on... I called them on Monday or Tuesday, and if they have room, they're supposed to bring out Houdini to pin brew. So, we made a nice trade. What did we trade? the Venom Pro that had been circulating around in some rentals and whatnot for a Houdini. So that'll be another cool, unique American pinball game out there. Some tight shots and that cool trunk shot across the game.
    62:37
    Which came first? Was it Houdini first or Aerosmith that did that trunk shot? I remember Aerosmith first, but I also got an Aerosmith and I didn't get a Houdini, so I wasn't aware that they had the same. I feel like Aerosmith was first. It's not the exact same mech, but it's just a very similar sort of situation. But it's definitely a cool point in the game. I definitely use my Grandpa Screwdriver, as you call it. I use that a lot. It's funny you call it Grandpa Screwdriver. That's what Kyle calls it, so I picked up on it. He'll be like, hey, can I borrow Grandpa Screwdriver? It's just like a Starknoff Screwdriver is what we always call it. Grandpa Screwdriver. I have little jumper cables that are always useful. Meter. Multimeter was going to be my next one. I have a cheap one in my toolbox. You have like a little Radio Shack one that I'm always seeing you use. I'm like, I don't have – so I have a Klein. What's the – Fluke, I think, is like the big money. That's a really nice one. A Fluke. Because Ben gave it to me. Dude, if you've got the hookup. Thanks, man. Didn't he give me a Fluke? I think that's what it was. He did. Yes. He gave you a Fluke, and he gave you like a sweet – Yeah, Weller solder. I use that all the time. I built three display sets this past weekend with it. But anyway, yeah, no, that Fluke heater is so nice. I use it at the shop. I'm afraid to take it out into the wild with me because I'm afraid I'm going to break it or leave it somewhere. I'd be more likely to leave it somewhere. I'm always leaving my stuff everywhere. All the water. Aerosmith and Houdini. That's clumsy. I know. Aerosmith and Houdini were the same year. Same year, okay. That makes sense.
    64:05
    So Aerosmith, your Aerosmith Premium is back together. It had a board that needed replaced or whatever. It's back. I think it's going to go to Lakewood probably. And then Hoover Pinball League, Mike Baer. picked up a sweet Aerosmith Pro. I had another thing I wanted to ask you guys too. No, that was it. I mean, we were talking about tools and I somehow turned it around to Houdini and Aerosmith. This is what made me think about Aerosmith.
    64:32
    This isn't about tools either. Aerosmith was February. Houdini was October. But they had to be... So they were in pre-production at the same time. Yeah, you mean you're not changing that like, oh look at Aerosmith, let's take that mech. Right. And it doesn't work the same way. Aerosmith is the very old school, like it goes into the cutout in the play field, and then it gets thrown across. It kicks it, yeah. It kicks it across. It's a totally different. It's a Hano Sudini's work. I'm trying to remember. I'm not familiar with it. I had one very, we had one traded in very, very, from Lee's Parts. He traded his in when Rush was first built. So what was that, three years ago? Yeah. He traded his in. It did. so if we have no rush pros left mad pinball one new in box off the latest run rush premium this is the one that has all the node board fixes motor fix we've got the expressions light expression lights we've got the topper so if you want to get a sweet loaded out in the shooter rod i didn't know that i think i bought all the accessories for it man you're not shooter guys i'm surprised you ordered a shooter i have one of the bottom line too but i mean i have one for just because I thought, let's build the ultimate rush. This is it. They might never make it again. I mean, they probably will, but... I feel like they're a threat. I'd go with 80% that they're not going to build that one again. But yeah, if you need one, email Corbin at madpinball.com and he'll build you out a whole bundle with a shaker and HD glass. We can bring it to Pinbird this weekend. You can get expression lights for the cabinet and the speakers and all of the doodads. And the legs. We'll throw in a cup holder and a pint glass. We'll give you a grandpa screwdriver if you buy the... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Those are limited number, dude. I was told that there were bags and bags and bags. There are.
    66:24
    They're still LE. They are limited edition. I was thinking we need to do a new run of screwdrivers. That would be cool. For sure. How many games need cup holders Do you need a cup holder for that Evil Dead Evil Dead needs a cup holder but both Domino and America Most Haunted already have cup holders I planned one for you But America Most Haunted has the cup holder on the left side so you know whose house that came out of So there's a few other games.
    66:50
    Last time around the table here of tools that you find super useful in your tool bag. Zach, do you have any?
    66:57
    I got one while you're thinking. Go, yeah. So my box versus my dad's box, one of the things that drives me nuts in his box. Your dad's box is like a mad Like my madman manifesto His box is like that He has a lot more in the random department He does His box has been around more I have the full set of the Metric and standard ratcheting Boxins Which come in very handy So I do like those Corbin also has So you know how you have the little allen keys That are in sets That all fold out Somehow his spilled out of the little thing So now they're just everywhere No they're in a ziplock bag now I cleaned my box I need a new set though These ones Corbin Gonna have the ball head man Not the ones This is what I need to get I had some ones from like The folding ones Those always come apart Another handy ass thing To have in your tool bag There are. Security keys, too. I mean, that's... Yeah, that was going to be my next one, is my Harbor Freight red case of security bits. I found my dad's in the back of these California Speeds, whenever you guys are putting the topper on.
    68:11
    Honestly, a good screwdriver pry bar is very handy. I just love buying tools. You can open any EM with that screwdriver. Universal key. Yeah. You, I mean, I have a machine shop with boxes of tools, so... One of my talking about opening any game. So it's always, I've got to have the, uh, the screw gun, the drill with, you know, a good bit that way I can drill through a lock if the key's not readily available. Yeah. The screw gun and the flathead. I love when people ask, they're like, what's the technique or do you get a special bit or, you know, you know, you just do the skadoosh. Yeah. You can do that. Or with a drill, it's like, no, it's just literally take a bit about, you know, yay big and blast that bitch in there and it'll it'll blow it apart you just disintegrate it and away you go it'll normally pop before you even most way through it anyway it will it will how about a simple like razor blade knife yeah a good box box yeah super handy definitely i feel like i could build a flashlight guy too at least little little a nice one you usually have in your pocket You get a flashlight, a box cutter, and grandpa's screwdriver. Yeah, I've been around a Sharpie lately. You're always good for having those. Looks like someone stole the one from Lake Heights. I have it. It's in my coat. I have it. We've been carrying a Sharpie lately, too. Oh, okay. Unuseful.
    69:31
    At the shop, I always have the Stark screwdriver. You want to get a better what? Light. Like a little, maybe a little bit bigger one or magnetic. Or a headlight. Yours died, dude. The button stopped working on me. Yeah, well. It was really good while it lasted. Light, knife, pen And marker The thing I get the most grief for is the headlamp But I love it Headlamp for handy Whenever Tia comes downstairs and I'm working on a pinball machine I have the headlamp on Do I have the what?
    70:04
    Those new ones It's like an LED strip That goes on your head And you motion on and off So Warren, who we'll see this weekend at pin brew bought me one for christmas and it's great it's rechargeable it's amazing noren no warren w-a-r-r-c-n i don't know that guy is he coming out this weekend too what you just have it like on your hat okay it's got like a little motion something on the side that's cool i don't use it all the time because it's not a great tool bag item because it you do have to recharge it so if it sits in there for a long time you don't use it then now it's discharged and now it's useless. But I do have it on the bench in the garage for, I'm going to go get under the hood or do whatever, charged and ready to go. But it doesn't usually hang out in the bag. I knew you were going to give me a hard time about that freaking box cutter. As soon as I got home and I realized it was still in my pocket, I'm like, son of a bitch. I told you we should just buy like one of the 20 boxes. I'll put it on a rim. No, it needs to be like a back pen. Yeah. Or there's like a chain. I'm chaining it to a rim. that's literally like the third time I really don't care because I have one in my truck too I went to open a box and I was just like I checked my pockets first I didn't take it as soon as I got home I'm like oh son of a bitch alright so yeah those are the tools people let us know if there's your go to that you have to have whenever you're working on your games I am a big fan of the 3 8's battery-powered ratchet. Those are nice. I think I started that trend. I use the speed ratchet. Obviously, we all use the leg.
    71:48
    So we are breaking games down? Is that what you decided? I thought that's what you told me. Now I feel like I was lied to. Is this because I stole the box cutter? Is that the reason? You made me start breaking down games because I stole the box cutter. If they'll fit on the legs, I'll just do them. We did last year on legs. We did. I don't know how many games we get We had more games last year Did we? Yeah I'm taking four from the showroom too Well I mean He's taking a bunch of new in box stuff Well that's his problem right now It is My trailer's loaded Other than He loaded it days ago So he's like Oh you gotta move stuff from Kyle's house Well Too bad my trailer's loaded Sorry It's full What can I do? My tire pressure I got you You guys do that I'm gonna go check my tire pressure Oh so the big trailer though Oh trailer update Yes please We put wheel bearings on it and I fixed the trail brake wiring so the whole front axle works again. Which is preferable. And new tires. We also looked at the date codes. 2011.
    72:48
    This isn't our trailer. It's a friend's that we're borrowing. Chris, it's your father's. Were they showing dry rot? Yeah. I forgot about the trailer. In between the treads, it was just...
    72:59
    So this was your going down, going across 76. Oh yeah Because we used it last year for pin brew And so it was only a year ago Probably still dry rotted But we had the tires off We spun the drum It's like Well we're doing bearings So we should be good Time to load it up and get it out So Zach fixed that up on Friday He sacrificed himself and missed the Finney's opening And fixed to finish the bus The fuel system is all back together The bus will be there Zach taking one for the team there Had to do some adulting I did have one for the Will it fit segment that I saw So you can fit not in the box But a Modern Stern Bally Williams what have you 2018 Kia Sorento So if you're out there looking for Good to know Except for you have to drive a Kia You still drive a Kia I mean if you're on a budget And you're looking for a pin hauler What's a Kia Sorento? out of your car. It's an SUV. It's a piece of shit. It's a Kia or a Hyundai. It's a piece of shit. It's a Hyundai. It's a piece of shit. Hyundai.
    74:13
    That's all I've got. I wanted to make sure I got that. Will it fit into the end of the episode here? If it fits. It ships!
    74:23
    Last item here for me before I go around the table to get last items from you guys is whatever i'm sorry we're all tired today yeah whenever i went on my my little spring break family trip we uh went on a cruise so we went out of a cruise port and let me tell you what out in la the freaking shipping container situation out there is insane so when we're talking about like numbers of containers fitting on ships or whatever i couldn't really reconcile it in my mind once i saw it it was like oh my god i could you guys go to a shipping yard the cruise went out of like oh a shipping yard and i can see how those things fall off of boats all the time you meet you meet those don't they lock together though both salespeople i don't know i saw something about this okay like like on the bottom there's something you turn and like locks the top of the bottom or something it was really cool to watch from the hotel that we stayed at from the night before like you could see the shipping yard and there were these tall cranes driving there was a division of the company i used to work for that that did uh dockyard cranes yeah aren't they wild oh yeah oh yeah and i couldn't tell that anyone was in them and i started to wonder if it was like computer controlled automated yeah it's what it looked like it's because these things are just like zipping around the number of it's it's just some any of that logistics like same with like fedex like night stuff whenever you see like and read about the numbers of things they move in like a limited amount of time it's always so crazy but yeah no those container yards are wild places Because I've seen the videos before of like inside an Amazon warehouse. They have some of those smaller things going around. Some of the black warehouses. There's no lights or nothing. Right. Dark, I should call it. And then it'll have like these areas. Like human flesh and bone, do not walk into this area or you will be crushed. It's like, oh, okay, cool. I'll be sure that I don't do that. Wow. All right. Kyle, final thoughts here, buddy? Can't wait to see everybody at Pinbrew this weekend. If you come to Pinbrew. I wish it was warmer It's going to be 80 It's going to be like 80 degrees Is it really? I don't think so Joe I'm going to look here You got to be curious now It's going to be great Come on out Girard, Ohio To the Metroplex Wherever you may be If you're drinking up beers It'll be 80 degrees Then high of 45 Then high of 48 Oh yeah It'll be 80 A little off from I think it could be in the 70s May, May possibly Two years ago It was like 70 It was so nice Like why are we playing pinball? Yes. Come on out to Pin Brew, Kyle. I agree. I'm excited to see everyone, the people we don't see frequently and everything else. Come and get a shirt. We've got these awesome pint glasses printed up. Stop by. We'll be hanging out in the corner. Buy a pint glass. Fill it with beer. Play some pinball. Play some Evil Dead. Play some spicy TCM. If you fill Kyle's glass with beer, he'll give you a glass.
    77:13
    That's true. Zach, final thoughts? Just same as Kyle, excited for Pen Brew and see what everyone brings out Is there anything crazy there?
    77:25
    So Wise Trailers will have Multimorphic Portal there which will be my first time getting hands on Portal You know he's the exclusive North America Multimorphic dealer Right here in our backyard Yes, we're very fortunate Yeah Corbin, final thoughts? Oh, is there going to be an Alice in Wonderland there, do we think? There will not be an Alice in Wonderland. So I had more thoughts on Alice in Wonderland. I wanted to say, did you guys, yeah, I have something to think about, to talk about here. What, did you read, do you know anything about this tariff stuff? Have you followed this at all? I sent you guys a little screenshot. Of course. I have been following it. So, I mean, what do you think? What's your take on it? My thought is, yes, tariffs are. I know we don't want to talk about current stuff, but this is an interesting thing. It is. tariffs are going to impact the companies who are shipping games into the united states without a doubt no doubt so like pinball brothers also going to be effective of course how many abbas did we sell none so never having so there's going to be zero effect because we imported zero of them so back to the alice in wonderland the more concerning here's my thought process on it i think it's less about the tariffs because they're saying oh well all the u.s ones were moving to the end of the line of trying to get out of the whole deposit by december thing that's what i feel like they're trying to do because we're into april now and they've not they have zero built they have two like oh okay two my bad two there were two tech guys have them and then the one like the dutch museum has one so i feel like it's three i feel like it's a their own guys have them yeah their own people i feel like it's a maneuver to kick the can down the road for the deposits and say, oh, well, you would have had them, but terrorists are pushing on inside to terrorists, sons of bitches. They're going to pay the tariffs.
    79:15
    That's fine. We'll pay it. We want it now. And I'm sure, I mean, for a luxury item, which pinball is, obviously, I'm sure some people have no problem paying $2,500. Which is crazy. There's one terrorist on there that is like a local, and I won't say his or her name, but I've been wondering if you know who it is and they've been like real fired up we can talk about it after the podcast but yeah I definitely have thoughts on it it's obviously going to affect domestic sales as well some people are like oh my gosh the coin taker should eat the cost of course they're all trying to sell to distributors or ship it through Canada and they'll trick it I think it'll be less so now but in two, three years when domestic stock has ran out, it's going to be a huge issue. It is. Oh, for parts, for this stuff. Yes, absolutely. So I would say like, Stern probably is good for a little while. Stern is not good. Stern more than any other manufacturer. They always have shortages. Because Jason Knapp has done this and tracked the containers that come from overseas, Stern gets more containers. Than anyone? by multiples over anyone else but to your point so say american pinball they use all titan rubbers on their game so you go oh titan rubbers that's an american company well that's an american company that sells rubbers that buys the rubbers from china correct so when they run out of the stock that they have that was do you think american companies are making ball guides you're wrong right and i don't think people understand that like even like on the current like so on the non-pinball but like on the cranes and the arcade side of it like we if we there was a lot of stuff starting in april that was all going to go up 20 to 25 because of the tariffs if we didn't already have the orders in so it's like right part of it also felt like you're just trying to get me to buy more shit it is yeah but it's also we ordered more because we were kind of like well i don't want to avoid this the uncertainty another 25 and it all is up now so it's like well but the kyle's point everyone other than stern like not everyone but a lot of the other spooky american barrels of fund, they do buy and source a lot from within the United States, but then a lot of those companies that they're buying from, so say, if you're Turner Pinball, they... The root of the source. Exactly. Where is the origination point of these parts? So if I'm buying from Pinball Life, I'm buying from an American company, but what percentage of the things from Pinball Life are being imported from overseas? Right. I think the trickle down eventually is going to... I think it's a lot. The trickle down is definitely going to... Yeah. I mean, we should know very shortly on Stern if they're going to hold the line on their prices or if they're going to bump up. So JJP stayed. They held the line. But I mean, at their prices, I think they got some. I thought they were already at the peak. They got some cushion. Yeah. I mean, this is going to be an unpopular opinion. I think they have Steve Ritchie in there, like, making a lot of the parts at night, too. Like, by hand. Okay. I'm going to. Play Battle. Hey, who is the designer on Harry Potter? So it's Eric Munir. Oh, okay. So he will be the, with, I know there's input, obviously, from the other designers. You want to talk about that game? Is that what you want to talk about? Yes. Killer Instinct. So I almost would have forgotten about it if you wouldn't have brought up Steve Ritchie. So Friday we're going through Finney's to make sure everything's ready to go. And Corbin's working on Willy Wonka because someone had like flicked the breakers off and on like six times consecutively. And I'm testing some other games. So I turn on Killer Instinct. Yeah. and all of a sudden we hear the voice of Steve Ritchie introducing the game and Corbin like literally stops what he's doing he's like is that Steve Ritchie like yes that is absolutely him he said something about now available the summer of 1990 whatever ultra 64 blah blah blah blah blah an epic Steve Ritchie voice it was very much like if he was introducing a movie trailer it was like that voice which was fantastic across the arcade i could hear it you could what were you talking about in your local video safari so alice in wonderland that's my those are my view i think tariffs are obviously a factor but i think that they are using it in my opinion as a crutch to say we're not going to make the december deadline because of this that and the other they were looking for something yeah and then my unpopular and who thought that they were going to be like on time i mean i ordered a lebowski it took over two years yeah i was in it for this almost it was like two and a half years but there was a lot of people yes and there was a lot of people early frames who were a lot longer and then there was time there was people recently who got in like three four months and they were bitching it's like you don't even know they have no idea if it's a year if it's if it's under two years i will i'll be like fuck yeah i'm excited to get it it'll be fun when it gets here it'll be sweet when it does as a person that only buys used premiums from Madman Ball. I agree.
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    But my unpopular Stern opinion is this. I think that pros are underpriced with where they are right now. I think $7,000 is below the market of what that game should be. I strongly believe that a Stern pro, especially looking at X-Men and D&D, if those are the blueprint of how loaded pros are going to be going forward. I played the X-Men Pro after playing the LE the other day and I'm like, this is the same game. I think the Stern Pro, if they follow that blueprint, is a $7,500 game all day. And then I think a premium is a $10,000 game.
    84:55
    And I think the LEs stay the same. And that's where I feel the market should be on those. And that's why you buy a spooky CE.
    85:02
    Yeah. Or spicy. That is my unpopular opinion on pricing. because I think pros are underpriced and I think premiums... It was 10-6 without the alternate back glass, the nipper shooter rod, or the topper was 10-6. That game has not earned that well for me. I can't imagine it would. I just thought, why not? It's a cool random game. It really seems like a... It also can't... The ball search on it is not great. You can't get over one ball being stuck which is a problem. I don't know. It's a cool random game but I don't think it's good for a high volume location. I think it would be much better in a single game location or like a three game location where it's not getting super pressure. Lake View would be throwback for some of those guys. I think Unhitched would be an interesting spot for something. The sort of pressure that you're going to get at Quarter Up or Finney's or the Arcade or whatever I think is just too much. Put it in your basement and crank the hell out of it. game like that. Speaking of which, my final, final, final list of final thoughts is that at Pinbroof, at Pinbroof Fest, they're doing a barrel bash, which is... Yeah, yeah. I'm in. What is it, two bucks? Five? I'm throwing in. I forget what it is to enter it, but it's the whole, you know, scoops thing, but it's actually programmed into the game to where... On a labyrinth. Yeah. White shot, red shot. White shot, red shot. Oh, that's cool. Okay, I'm in. There'll be that, there'll be the... What time are they playing this? one time a day. I know that's going to be going on over the weekend. I think on Friday night, the Pittsburgh Arcade Collective is doing the Ms. Pac-Man battle where they'll have six Ms. Pac-Man machines. I thought there was something like if you challenged Kyle to a game or something, didn't you get a prize? There was something about hand jobs and Rob Zombie.
    86:56
    Inside the tent. If you need to be redeemed on those, who do you email, Jeff? Jeff at BadPimble.com. Final thoughts, Corbin. What do you got, buddy?
    87:09
    You gave me your Alice nugget. I like that. I almost had forgotten that. Yeah, no, it's been something random. I guess that's all I got.
    87:18
    Yeah, I did want to... Next time, I have an idea for another conversation next time. Okay. This was... I liked your tool bag idea for this one. I think it's one to where...
    87:29
    Give some people some ideas of things to add to their horde if they don't already. Yeah. Because then there is, I mean, then we could get deep into, like, the back stock of random stuff I keep stashed. Back stock and then. What common shit to keep, rubber selections, all kinds of stuff. And I think even, like, is it a bag itself? Is it a toolbox? Is it a pack out? It depends on where it's at. Like, at the house here, I got the tool chest. The rolly. If I'm going somewhere, I pack a little bag. I know, oh, I'm fixing this. That's what I need. Because my father-in-law had given me a craftsman pack out that was, like, a rolly sort of thing and whatever. and I started to move, transfer my stuff over, and I'm like, this is just too much for my basic whatever. It takes up too much space. The nice part about this tool chest, I can load it all into the bus, though, really easy. You can. Just roll it. No, no, no. I have stuff I load it all into, pretty much. Oh, nice. Yeah. Very convenient.
    88:22
    Final thoughts, Zach? Just play some pinball. Play Evil Dead. Excellent game. Come play some Evil Dead. See you at Pimbru.
    88:31
    Anything, Kyle? Any final thoughts? I love you guys I love all of you Equally Thank you all Bye Fresh pepper Thank you