Look, Beavis. It's amazing. Let's break it. Yeah, break it. There'll be glass everywhere. Beavis, wait. Yes, we could smash this crystal thingy in the street. And yes, it would be cool. But we can do better than that. And we must. Let's throw it off the roof. Yeah. Yeah. Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Nightingale. Oh, how are you? I'm fine today. Welcome to Mouseby's Theater, where we're always classy here. I don't know where you're going, but we are not classy here, typically. Yes, we are now. This is a new and improved Stern ass-kissing. We're going to be ass-kissing in the royal English way. Okay, stop, stop. This is episode 229. I just want to get that out of the way. What you're referring to is a bunch of the pinball media got invited to Stern. Really? I was not invited. Were you invited, sir? The thing is, some of the people invited have criticized Stern in the past, so I don't know. Oh, I know. I don't know what the – okay. The rhyme or reason was not there. Well, yeah, I was just trying to figure out how they decided who got picked. So we must answer very carefully. How did this happen? Oh, boy. What are you saying? Good show, Bob. Good show, Chop. Oh, should I do – should I do – should I do stewies? Yes. Yes, well, I will do my masterpiece theater. This will get annoying in about five fucking seconds. Yes, it will. Yes, so stop, please, Bruce. Stop. No, I want to make it all annoying for all the Stone employees who are listening, because we're here to make money. Masterpiece theater. I mean, we know multiple people, sir. I know. Tim Sexton. I mean, the whole reason he's at Stern is because of us, clearly. Exactly. All his appearances on our show. I know. And David Raymondson. He's been on our show. And all these people. I mean, what's the deal? Why didn't we get invited? But no, we get these all-news new podcasts. We barely get new folks. They're not really new. Some are. Some aren't. Yeah, some are. Some aren't. Mr. Teolis was there. Teolis was there, which I guess was. I'm sure he'd be the first person invited. and he even didn't want to go he's like all right you can i don't really need to go so loser kid guys were there triple drain was there a pinball kinetesis was there nap arcade was there and other people were there there was one person definitely was not going to be there yeah that was going to be the old uh yeah orbital albert yeah had this podcast where He just was really upset about not being invited to this. And holy shit, he made you look tame, Bruce. Well, now we'll have a refined palate here. Wow. That's from the podcast. I didn't even listen to it. I just read some of the transcripts. I read the transcript and then I heard it. I was like, holy shit. Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah, it made me tame. Yes. I mean, Bruce here. Now, to be fair, it's unlikely we would ever be invited, being we have one of our hosts who told one of their programmers he should retire. Well, no, I was just giving advice for a person. And saying that he would flash a light in his face if he saw him in person. And then they have the other programmer that you've insulted for almost an entire eight years of the run of the show. And your point? And if you notice, he ain't really programmed too much lately, so maybe other people have been learning. I was just wondering what the – it's because there was – Hey, I only got boned once. You got boned twice. Oh, yeah, because I have two podcasts. Well, Silver Bowl Chronicles is my other podcast, which can be heard on the Pinball Network. That is more pinball history, and we never mention current events or really anything Stern-related. So I could see – I mean, there would be no benefit to that. We're not going to talk about it. So I actually have to ask Bruce. So say we did get an invite. Would you have gone? No. Well, you can never get days off anyway. No, I know. So would I have gone? That's the question. If it was one day, I possibly could. But the thing was, we weren't even invited. So guess what? I wouldn't push my luck unless I was invited. and I guess we weren't in the category of the stop for the purposes of this podcast I will be good cop Bruce is always bad cop remember this but I was thinking this was all expenses paid they flew all these people in I know exactly maybe that's the reason because I know from Albany to Chicago this time of year it's like 400 bucks yeah maybe that's what they looked at they looked at the cheapest flight where he's like this guy we can give this guy to train and this guy he can do uber he's like those guys from australia fuck them we ain't doing that europe nope nope scratch those european guys let's just go for wisconsin canada So what they did, well, what they did is they had them all come in. Jersey, that's a direct flight. Jersey direct flight. Yeah, that's true. They had them all come in, and they gave them the factory tour. Yeah. And then they had, this is the cool part, they had them go to the conference rooms. And all the conference rooms were named after old Stern games. Yeah, which, gee, holy fuck. Oh, is that, do we come up with that idea? Is that what you're trying to say? You're saying, like, we haven't made the old Sterns new again? Oh, okay. Yeah, they have the Stars Conference Room, the Flight 2000 Conference Room. That's awesome. I'm like, holy fuck. So they had George Gomez give a thing about licensing, and then they took him out to Logan's Arcade, and they all drank and stuff and played games. See, now you could have had more fun with seeing Ron get drunk. I wouldn't drink. I'm not overly social. The whole, like, that stuff, that would have not interested me. I would have had a fucking ball and a half. Yeah. Now, as far as the factory tour, I was trying to think how many Stern factory tours I've been on. I can 100% recall. And I got up to five. I was in three with the old building, two buildings ago. So my first year when I went there, Elvis, they were making Elvis. And they were giving away the shrunken heads from Ripley's because they didn't sell. I remember going there the one year where Wheel of Fortune was on the line and it was almost deserted. That was scary. I remember going with you the year that the bus driver got lost and you had to tell him how to get there. I saved it. You saved our bus. That was the year that we saw the Star Trek LE and you changed your order. Yep. Then I went to the next factory they had because I got the floor plan for that one. I think Steve Ritchie might have been our guide on that one and then just last year I went to the brand new one so I've been in well last 20 years all three of the their factories they've had oh and Jersey Jack we both went to the New Jersey Jersey Jack factory tour wow you're old I am fucking old Mm-hmm. So that part, I would guess they got the factory tour just slower because it's a smaller group and they went around slower. And I've seen the pants press thing so many times. I've seen all this stuff. I could probably run the machine I've seen so many fucking times. I've seen so many different playfields in there. I would have liked the whole conference room tour there. That I would have liked. The rest of it, I probably would have just like, hey, Ron, you want a beer now? Ron, you're quite boring. Yes, I know. Okay. So, yeah. Yes, we didn't make the cut. We suck. We don't. I do not massage the balls. Oh, come on. Come on. The funny thing is, at first I thought, oh, maybe they're going by listeners, you know, because pretty much all the ones that were there have way more listeners than we do. We don't know that, though. We kind of know that. But the thing is, the podcast that has the most listeners didn't get invited. No, of course not. Or the second or the third either. And if you go by Twippy. Oh, God. Well, he was never going to get invited. No, no, no. I'm not even saying awards. I'm just saying by the top ten Twippies. Top ten. Votes for the past five years. So, Bruce, the pinball show. Do you think Dennis Caruso would have went? Maybe. No, I'd say he wouldn't go. Maybe. Dennis, would you have gone? I'm saying no. I just can't see him going. I could see maybe. He might be interested. Zach, Mini, on the other hand, definitely. I could see him wanting to go. Yeah, but I think he probably wants to go more as a dealer. But Zach is Zach, so that's why he didn't get invited. Well, the thing is, I was thinking, well, maybe it's because he's a distributor. Yeah, I bet you that was it. No, triple drain. They got Travis Meary. He works for a distributor. So there goes that theory. So, yeah. I was just more curious than anything, like what the criteria was. It could have been something as simple as – in five months and you've liked all of our games, we give you rubber stamp passports to go. Oh, Brucey, thanks to my co-host here. Yes, I said co-host. I'm never getting in. Being good cop doesn't help. This doesn't fucking help you. Come to the dark side. We have cookies. Oh, I like cookies. I see. So, sold, right? Ron, we're going to eat like kings this weekend. Oh, you mean upcoming weekend? Yes. You know what this is? This is Stop Weekend. Coming up. Yeah. Actually, yeah, it'll be this upcoming weekend by the time this episode is out. Josh and Zach Sharp, the two people I'm putting this to right now. Uh-oh. Our occupancy has increased. Our square footage has increased. Our game count has increased. Wink, wink, hint, hint. We're ready to do big tournaments. Well, what's your certificate of occupancy? Your COO, say, Bruce, how many people can you have in there? Right now, the temporary is 95. The temporary? Yes. We're getting the full one in two weeks. We have to go through it, but our temporary is 95. The full Monty? Yes. So what's temporary? Does it mean the full one is more people or it's just – Maybe. We have to do a couple things. We have to get another fire extinguisher. We have to have the aisles completely laid out so we can actually check through everything. Right now there is 77 games in the Rochester Pinball Collective. And the first time you get to play them is this Thursday. 77 games for the Stern Army. I hear if he can get there, Stu McVicker might show up. Yeah, I think he will. The legendary Stu McVicker. I'm going to bring chocolate chip cookies from Wegmans, Ron. I can't eat those, but that's fine. No, I can't. And brownies, dark chocolate brownies. Oh, you're going to love it. You're going to love them. I can't eat any of that stuff, Bruce. And real pizza. Okay, what's the difference? Okay, I've had pizza almost every time there. How is this real pizza? No, no, no, no. I'm bringing you, since it's you and me behind the counter, we're getting real pizza. We're getting like New York City style pizza. For those who's listening the first time, what does stop mean, Bruce? Slam, tilt, oh my, pinball tournament. Uh-huh. And it is, we have right now at the present moment, 64 entries in the bag. 64 entrants, yes. Yes. And we can take six more now. Ooh, well, if these six people want to play in this, where is this taking place, Bruce? At the beautiful Rochester Pinball Collective in East Rochester. Where's the suite, Ron? I have no idea. What's the address, Bruce? 349 West Commercial Street, East Rochester, New York. Suite 2965. Okay, 2965. I never remember the suite number, Bruce. I know, but that's why I keep on trying to plug it on to you. Plug it on to me. Okay. We can take walk-ins on Friday. It is a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three-day tournament, $125. Be there or be square. You're going to see a whole bunch of new games. Yeah. I'm excited. Old games coming back and new games coming in. We're trying to get three more ready before the end of this week. We're going to have a rare stern there. We're going to have rare games with wide bodies with four flippers. Wide bodies with four flippers. Okay. We're going to have actually five flippers. Five flippers. Okay. Is it five? No, it's four. It is four. Which game are we talking about, Bruce? Embryon. Embryon. Embryon. Cheetah's a wide body with four flippers, and it's much better. Actually, no, it only has three. No, it's not. It only has three. That's why it's better. Yeah, it's got to be it. We're going to have, what else do we have? Abra, abracadabra. Didn't you have that already, or no? No. Never had abracadabra. Oh, okay. We're going to have surf. What is Zach's game? Surf Safari? No. Surf Champ, Surf City, Surfing USA. Surf City, I think it is, or something like that. Surf something. Yeah. We have Demoman. We have Johnny Mnemonic. We have Foo Fighters coming back. Lord of the Rings coming back. Well, Bruce, I only play games with turrets in them. Well, you're lucky. Do you have a game with a turret? What game would that be? Viper. Yeah. All right. A game that proves you can have full nudity as long as it's metal. Yes, as long as it's metal, it's good for everyone. Yep, it's good for everyone. You can even show nipples and it doesn matter it metal We going to have more zipper flipper games Yay We love zipper flippers Ted Zale lives forever at RPC Doggies. Doggies or doggies or doggies or however you're supposed to say the damn game's name. And we got a couple named after cities like Old Chicago. Ooh, you got Old Chicago. Excellent. Yes, we do. And what else do we have in the pile? Oh, your favorite one-shot wonder. Uh-huh. Everyone's favorite one-shot wonder, and you own it. The favorite one-shot, and I own it. Alien Star. You got it. Technically, it's a two-shot wonder. You've got to hit the in lane and then hit the spin. Unless you, you know, you shots it. Yeah, that's a shot. No, but I consider you. How is that not a shot? It's not a shot. What? Yeah, not a shot. That's a shot. Not a shot. You think when they designed the play field, they said they have to, You're actually going to try to shoot this Shats Which was never done before really Oh it's never done it didn't exist It wasn't thought of It wasn't thought of no one did it Yeah So you get to play a lot of different games there It sounds like that yeah All weekend long Yes and we're going to have Hopefully by the time we're all Up to speed and everything next month We'll hopefully have 80 to 82 games Wow So we're already at 77. That's right. Stop the tournament event of the summer. The only way you'll miss it is if you're in jail. And if you are, break out. Thank you, Simpsons. Yes. Or you can do the old, you know, you'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge. We have a, what's it called? What's the charity? Pinball. Project Pinball? Project Pinball. we have a hugging booth what we have a hugging booth what does that mean five dollars you donate and you get the hug either me or ron yeah okay so they can hug you i got it yeah but or they can hug you for five dollars and money goes all the pinball profile stop pinball uh pinball pinball profile really he does have a patreon he does have a patron i mean project pinball so guess what all All the money for hugging will go to a good cause. Okay. We're going to have to be testing for the first time. I think we're going to test it tomorrow. Is the video works in the other room? Oh, the streaming gear? Yes. My guess is the Playfield cam may work, but the other ones may be problematic. Yeah, if we turn it, I think we might have a better shot at it. Well, it is an open room. It is still all the way top. And the Playfield one goes through walls. So that should not be an issue, really. Yeah, we'll have to buy more of those. How much were they? That's part of my contract with RPC. I just buy all those. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Jesus Christ. Yeah, what was I going to say? Yeah, I'm going to bring the battery back, Bruce. Good, thank you. We'll have full battery packs ready to go. Full power. Full power. But you have Genesis. You don't need that. Full power. God damn you. okay yes we're old uh so uh thursday doors open at five uh stern army is at 6 30 we'll have a stern army till the end of the day then friday the doors open at four and i think the first tournament starts at 5 45 saturday and sunday uh saturday the women's starts at 10 30 i think we'll open the doors at 10 and we go right through the night well where is all this list of Bruce say no I don't want to like hear all your stuff it's at the Facebook events for the the slam till podcast under events under stomp west six the undiscovered whoppers so go to Facebook and look for slam till podcast and look at our events yep and then under that and just stomp west six and then it has a description and everything is in there there you go see isn't it much easier than explaining it all well I just want to give people a heads up so uh it should you a great time had by all for ron how many ems are at a normal pinball hall uh not not a lot but you got them all there we got 20 20 ems and one guy that can fix them all i know too actually i'm starting to get better with them so what else do i have in my notes here i have we mentioned in the last episode i think it was last episode bride of pinbot 3.0 or i couldn't remember what the hell it was called the game that i was sure we were talking about crashing burns well people were saying how like when dutch did big lebowski they didn't try to sell any other games while they were working on that and all that and i was like i almost posited that's not true that's not true and we had a listener send this in actually but i right after we did the podcast i looked this up and i wasn't crazy and we might already mention this in the last episode but i put it in my note So I assume I didn't. It was at Texas Pinball Festival 2017. I said it was at Expo, where Dutch announced they were going to have a run of 150 Super L.E. 25th Anniversary Bride of Pinbots for $12,500 each. Yeah. How did that go for them? It never happened. Crash. And they were already having issues. They were already having issues getting the game done at that time. I know. So when they did that, people were like, are you crazy? Maybe they misspoke. Instead of 25 years, they really meant 35 years anniversary. Maybe they did. Maybe they did. But yeah. What else do I have here? Oh, I have a little housekeeping note. Ooh, housekeeping. Me fluff your pillow. Superman, not home. No, no. Liquid pledge. Google Podcasts is dead, Jim. No! It's been dead since April. But I still have the link there on our show notes thing. Oh, bad. So what they did is they transitioned it to YouTube. So by the time this episode airs, if you go to our channel, we should have a playlist there that has all of our podcast episodes. Great. Which I used to upload those to YouTube for a brief period and no one ever listened to them there. So I'm thinking it will be just as successful as it was before. I think it's going to be very successful. But the thing is, it's all automated now. So it should just, when I upload a new podcast, it should just add it to the playlist. Like I shouldn't actually have to do anything. So that's cool. Let's see. Speaking of LEs, well, actually, this wouldn't be an LE if it does exist. Otherwise, George Gomez would be lying. Godzilla 70th. You think there's going to be a Godzilla 70th anniversary edition? Who knows? I can't even tell because we can't talk bad about Stern anymore. Oh, stop. Because we're trying to get – But if Gomez has said in the past that no more of these – I know. It would be a total – So it would have to be a non-limited – like basically another premium but with different art basically. That's all it would be. It's just so fucking – I think it's smart to get more money. It's smart to get more money, but, boy, I feel it's very douchey. So you think I should be pissed as a Godzilla owner that there's this one that may have cooler art, maybe, or it's the 70th anniversary? Yes. Okay. Well, I guess as a Metallica owner, we'll see what happens if the rumored Metallica with the LCD and all that comes out. Yeah, I know. What happens then? You going to sell yours and get the new one? No. So the interesting thing is, I wonder if that thing exists, if that's going to be because that's the rumored game. Yes. Which I think the fact that Borg wasn't on John Wick, he fueled that even more that. Well, yeah, then he has. It has to be that one. I don't believe I think Metallica and what's his name? Dirty Donnie out of Falling Out. So, yeah, I think they did, too. I wouldn't expect Dirty Donnie art. So the question would be what kind of art is going to be on this thing? They can use still the same art, and they just got to do just a bigger LCD screen. So what would be the point, though, if the art's exactly the same? Money! Okay, okay. Money, money, money! Money! Money, money, money, grab! Money! Okay. People are demanding the game. Guess what? You update it. You make it a little nicer with the LCD. Maybe you add two more songs to it. you got videos a couple modes you'll have the videos yeah and then you're done yeah yeah that's how you make your money okay um i have a note here i play john wick bruce wow so now tell us how great it is ron wink wink hint hint well have you played john wick not at all yet okay i gotta i'm gonna play it probably just i'm gonna try to play it this week uh i have to go out to buffalo Tuesday to get the trophy. So I'm going to scoop by one of the locations that has it out there. Okay. I played the pro. Yep, that's what I'll be playing also. The LEs are still on the line and being shipped, I think, started on Friday. Oh, yeah, they're making the LEs. They started shipping them on Friday. Let me think. Well, let me start with the art. The art's okay. Yeah. It didn't, like, blow me away or anything. The play field didn't wow me. It was more the other art. But it's okay. It's not like I looked at it and it's like, oh, my God, what is this? Abomination to mankind. It wasn't anything like that. And it's got Donnie Enzo on the trans light, so I'm happy. Gameplay. Gameplay. Man, I had a tough time hitting that center ramp. That thing is really narrow. I actually was hitting it more with the left flipper, which seemed physically impossible. Nice. It seems to be the missions are where it's at. Yeah. Like I played just a multiball with nothing else going on, hit a ton of jackpots and didn't really score much. I played one mission, actually did what it said, and got way more points. So I kind of like that. So the multiball is not, you know, just the thing. So heavy. Yeah, so heavy. It does the thing, though. See, I think I found a pet peeve of mine now. Should we do this offline, Ron, so we don't get in this? Stop! I'm not telling anyone to retire or anything or saying I'm going to. Yeah! All right, so you're distracting me now. What was I going to say? Oh, so it does the thing. A lot of the Sterns do this. A lot of games do this now. Okay, you start the mode, which in John Wick, you hit the targets on the right, and then you hit it in the scoop thing there, and that starts up. They call them jobs, I think, or missions, jobs, whatever. Missions, I think, yeah. Same thing. So say you start one of those. Okay, shoot this. all right, I shoot it, say I hit one thing, then I miss one thing and it drains, it's over. And that's it. You failed, it's over, and then the next fall, you've got to hit all the targets again to get into the next thing. As opposed to, like, for example, Jurassic Park, start a dinosaur, hit a couple things, drain. When you start, you're still in the same dinosaur. You keep going. And as much as everyone hates it, Star Wars... You know, you fail, you come back, you're still running. You don't have to do anything to qualify it again or anything like that. You're right where you left off. So they're making the game harder. I just, they all do that now, though. You do something to qualify it, then you hit it, it starts, and then if you just drain immediately, that's it. Yeah, bum-bum. Then you've got to hit all this crap to relight it and do it again. That Cairo Swordsman Love Gun area kind of sucks. Now, me and my dad, my dad played it too. You hit it up in there, it hits pop bumper like twice and just dribbles out. I think once he got it to actually do something. It got a little left of the pop bumper, so it got back further, and it actually went around a little bit, and that was it. But the streams I've seen of it, when people hit it in there, just boom, boom, and it's out. As opposed to like the love gun, when you hit it in there, it could bounce around for a while i just think that love go i just think that that could have went a little better i don't know if it's different on the premium at all uh well my dad was watching the videos while i was playing and he was digging them it's like wow he just shot everybody it's like whoo there's guns in the videos only yes what a bunch of fucking i don't hear people. I told you, I'll send you a sticker with a little gun on it. You can put it on anywhere you want. It shoots. It has good flow. It played hard. I mean, a lot of quick sling drain, sling drain, sling drain. I hate those fucking names. In the pop-ups, the outlane post, it was up on one side and down on the other side. If you put them all the way up and took the rubber off, you could make this thing brutal. It will definitely be a tournament darling. Fatality. I can tell that already because it doesn't play forever, so it gets props, gets thumbs up for me on that. When you get the flow going, it shoots good. Like I said, the center ramp is kind of narrow, and at times I was having trouble hitting it. My main issue was like, so one of the multi-balls is you hit the hotel and it spells Winston, and then you hear a voice say, what does it say? Lock lit. and I swear I thought it was Timmy. The first time I saw it on stream, I thought, look, Timmy did the voiceover for that? To me, it sounds like him. Lock is lit. That's what I think it says. Lock is lit. And it says it like that. It gives me a chuckle. I don't know why. Every time I hear that. But the problem is, lock is lit. Where? Yeah, where? Hello? It doesn't tell you. Light up, you tell you anything. There's nothing. I didn't see anything on the play field. Someone can correct me. It wasn't obvious at all. The only reason I knew you hit the center ramp was because I saw it on a stream. I had no idea. Lock is lit. Like, where is it lit? Extra ball is lit. So there's an extra ball that flashes, and it's right next to two stand-ups that are flashing at the exact same time. So I was like, is that the extra ball? Do you have to hit the two targets? Or is it the scoop above it that goes into like a Vuck Is it that shot Yeah that what it is It the Vuck shot It the scoop It not the two targets But again there no arrow or anything and the insert is below that I didn't think it was obvious that's what I was supposed to hit. Yeah. What else? Adaball. Adaball is lit. Okay, where? Where's the Adaball? I think it's the two targets, the set targets on the left, I think, is the Adaball. You've got to hit both of those, I think. the inlanes it does the barricora lanes thing which for an average person might start to get confusing like you go down in lane and it lights the letter oh if you had the literally lit yeah if you had the letter already lit then it gives you the next one below it just like barricora yeah i think that lights like the there's ball savers on either side that you that you have to move and i could just tell right off that's the thing i'm going to get confused i'm going to screw that up over and over i'm going to screw up the lanes i'm going to screw up getting the ball saver over there in time just because i'm slow and old and that shit confuses me i sent you a picture with some comments on it privately privately so don't read it no you you won't read it trust me i guarantee that you will not read this i will not read it okay how did you send these to me via text facebook facebook oh facebook messenger okay yes because There's a picture. That's why. There's a picture. So I'm supposed to look at this and not say anything. I want to see what your reaction is. You're so mean, Bruce. Am I right, though? Yeah, it's a little out of control. I noticed that on the stream, too, but yes. You are so mean, Bruce. you're a horrific person but I'm going to be nice I'm not going to say anything I don't want to have to freaking edit this but I saw it and I was like holy crap no editing remember all hate mail can be directed to Bruce at slam till podcast at gmail.com that's slam till podcast at gmail.com I love getting live reactions from you. Sometimes they're the best. We got a great comment today about... I can't say what I want to say because we're on air. Let's put it that way. No. You got some... That was literally what I was going to say. Oh, my God. You have two peas in a pod. A lot of fucking time. That's the first thing I thought when I saw the picture. All right. All right. We're going to hell. See, now everyone's going to be like, what the hell picture? What did you see? Oh, my God. You can ask us. It stopped. You can ask us. It stopped. So. I was actually crying. Yes, that was good. That was good that we had the same thought. I was going to bring up after we went off the air, but all right. Okay. Repairs. Was I finished with Jowick? No, I don't know. You were. But, yeah, I mean. It's a game. Yeah, it seems fine. There's nothing horribly. It is interesting. When you see it next, because they got it. Oh, I played it at the local FFF, Bruce. We know you love that place. The 3F. It used to be, what, fun, friends, family, fun. Yeah. Now it stands for fun, funner, funnest. I'm not making that up. Oh, my God. They made their logo even worse than they did before. Hey, hey. They put all this new artwork outside the building, and on the artwork, it's huge. It's like on the fucking wall. Like on the side of the building, they actually show a row of pinball machines, and I'm like, hey, that's pretty cool. Normally when you see arcade in the building, they usually don't show the pinball machines. They just show other things. Stu McVicker. Like a picture of Stu McVicker in the corner next to the pinball machine waving? No. You shouldn't have that happen. But it's sitting right next to Foo Fighters. Okay. And when you look at those two playfields, it is like our Zach said last week. Like the one just looks like a safe approach, and the other one looks like we try to, you know, try to do crazy shit. Yeah, like we did, you know, made the ball do things that you don't normally see and stuff. Yes. The other one, like honestly, if they didn't say it was Elliot Heisman, the designer, this is his first game. I would have thought it was Borg. I would have thought it was Borg. I swear to God. You know, the Bash Toys up the middle, Cairo Swordsman slash Love Gun area. It just, it screamed Borg to me. Green Borg. It still does. It still does. But yeah, that was, according to, I listened to the, I think it was the Loser Kid. I Loser Kid. I listened to the Gomez interview, and he said that was the third Whitewood. Because Gomez was helping him out, and he would do Whitewood and be like, no, that ain't going to work. No, that ain't going to work. He's like, what's your toy? You know, what's your feature? Upper playfield? No, that can't be your feature. Or was it mini playfield? The mini playfield was a feature on one of the earlier designs. I'm almost curious about what some of the earlier designs look like. And almost like maybe he went a little crazier and it just wasn't working and it wasn't working. So then the third time they said they were getting short on time. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's why we'll take a safer approach. Yeah. But, yeah, it's fine. I'm sure it'll be a tournament, darling. Just the way it plays right now, I can see you can make that thing really hard, keep the ball times down. It probably won't have any crazy scoring exploits or anything, at least ones that won't get corrected at some point. Yeah. I hope to play it. I'm going to be hopefully playing it Tuesday afternoon. That's my goal. It does have a ton of flow, which is something I always like, so I can't really complain. As I said, I'm going out to Buffalo to grab trophies, so I'll be stopping at Pocketier and trying it out there. Let's see. Repairs. Okay. I don't really have any repairs other than I upgraded Elton John again. There was another new version. And is it better than ever? Better than ever. It looks like Jersey Jack released full version upgrades for all their games for, like, new OS, except one. Guess which one it is. Your favorite game of all time dialed in. No, no, that one already got a full one. That already had it. No, no, this is funnier. Every game, including Wizard of Oz, Hobbit, all except this game. Pirates. Yep. The one that everyone wants to remake. 7.9991. 999. 9991, yes. But, okay, what repairs do you have, Bruce? We've been playing with Star Race, a system 80. Star, oh, the super-duper ultra-wide. Ultra-wide. The widest Gottlieb, and we'll add in Circus. Yes. And we're getting weird voltages off of the 24-volt bridge rectifier. Like, we're getting, like, 136 volts. So I'm like, hey, Zach, let's grab my game I just got, Counterforce, and try the same thing. That one's got the same freaking high voltage. So either we have two bad transformers, something wacky, we've disconnected the whole play field, all the coils, all the knockers, everything we've disconnected. All the knockers. All of them disconnected. All of them. I didn't know games had multiple knockers, but yeah. Some do. Some do, baby. Really? Yes. So, you know, we are like kind of at a stump. We're going to take a couple days back. We're going to wait until after stomp and start trying to figure these out again. Luckily, we have one more game we're going to use measurements on, and that's Black Hole. All three use the same transformer. So, luckily, we have all three of the games that use the same transformer in the building. other than that uh i zaxacled all the viper zaxacled so those are led lights yes and all the inserts are all zaxacled now and i had to put a new bridge rectifier board in and now i just got to repin some of the connector and then hopefully we'll get a brighter gi so the zaxacles are basically led lights with do they have the what resistor built in built in so they yeah cool don't Yeah, it's like a Yopsicle, but Zach gets them made for his own specs. Because he always does. Little tweaks. Yeah, everything. Zach is not the type of person who would do a homebrew with an existing board set. He makes his own because that's how he does it. And then we've just been working a lot. We got this Farrow. Why? Raw! Raw! Cobras! It has nudity in the back glass, though, at least. It does. If you know where to find them. If you know where to find them. I think there's two of them, if I remember. Yes, there is. So Zach's looking at his thing. We're looking at it. We're like, okay, the lower GI relay doesn't work. Okay, it's bad. We figured that out. It's not a problem. Zach's like, okay, but the lights are not acting right when you do the drop targets. So he's reading the schematics. He goes, he's like, it looks like the left hand, like, you know, the lights aren't working on the bottom. drop targets compared to the other i look down i go i guarantee this the guy who had it before him swapped the whole mechs wrong guess what happened the guy swapped the whole mechs wrong what does that mean he swapped the whole like the when he had it apart i guess and when he was doing cleanings the originally supposed to let's say blue white was on the left mech it was on the the whole mech was on the right hand side so what we had to physically do is move the whole left drop target and right target target back and flip them around the other way there you go then he's like well the lights don't work right and he looks at the schematic and he goes one of the row row six and seven of the lights are all switch makers are all short i said he's like where underneath i don't see anything underneath like i said does it happen in the backbox like oh there is a couple in the backbox we go back there some guy jumped a wire to make another light work. And it's between six and seven of the light matrix. Take away the jumper, guess what works now? You said switch matrix in that conversation. I assume you meant lamp matrix. Light matrix, yeah. But I was like, what the fuck? Just to get one lamp working. Must have been an important lamp. No, it wasn't. Well, it's not Farrell, so nothing's important. Nothing's important. It's literally the worst bi-level. But luckily, you get to play it out of the RPC. It's still the worst pie level by a large margin, too. Oh, yeah, totally. Rah! Cobras! Cobras! So how do you rate your pie levels? Well, let's see. Black Knight is, of course, your number one. No. No? I would say overall, overall, I would put Jungle Lord number one. Wow, okay. Then Black Knight number two. Yep, definitely number two. Black Knight is the best playing one. Jungle Lord has the most cool features and stuff in it. Yes, different rules. And the buzzer. I love the buzzer. Yes. It's got a buzzer, I think, and the bell. Then Solar Fire. And then a distant fourth would be Pharaoh. Okay. Yep. Okay. How do you rank them? Probably just flop the first two? No. Oh, really? No, Jungle Lord first. Oh. I like Solar Fire better than... Wow. Yeah. Black Knight. It's just there. I'm Steve Ritchie. How dare you insult my game? Fuck you. It's easy, Steve. I can insult you now because you're JJP. Well, no JJP tours for you. Exactly. All right. We love JJP. A little shine on my face. Well, you should start asking me the question, Bruce. What's that? Is Elton John better than Dialed In? I already know you think it is. I don't know. I still love my dialed in. Well, I think Elton John's way better. I mean, the flippers are way more powerful, even after the upgrade. I mean, the light show is spectacular. The art is better. But I still think that the play field, the shots just shoot so good in dialed in. I do, I do, I do. And I like all the goofy characters. I like goofy, Bruce. You know this. Like, I like Roadshow. I love that game. So I like all the goofy characters on the phone. I love that shit. And the music, David Thiel, come on. Den, den, den, den, den, den, den, den, den. Or you could do your sound effect. Turd, turd, turd, as you always call it. Turd, turd, turd. Oh, my podcast is ready to be published. We finished uploading episodes for your podcast, the Slamtail Podcast, to YouTube. Please publish the podcast in YouTube Studio. Wow. Okay. You will be paying extra for that YouTube studio. I hope they're in correct order and I don't have to move them around. Oh, that would suck. That would suck. That would really suck. 280. Oh, God. So, is that it? On the show today? It's just a ball bag. Do we have an email? It's a ball bag. A ball bag. Give it to me. Give me a ball bag. We have one from our Scott, but I think it's more for us, at least for now. So I'll skip that one. Let's see. We have one from Cole. It says, John Wick is the subject. It says, hey, host Ron and co-host Bruce. Wow. Yes, going back to OG. Screw Jeff and his complaints. He's Canadian. What does he know anyways? And why would you listen? This is America. America. Actually, Jeff is cool and just wanted to bust his balls. Let's see. Since you had Steph and Zach in the last show, was that done in QPX? Quad penetration extreme. Wow. For those who haven't heard our previous episodes, DPX is Dutch pinball. It's extra? Yeah. No, I don't think it's extra. I get this wrong every time. Dutch pinball extreme. It's not. No. Extreme. God, this is driving me nuts. What is it? Dutch? They haven't advertised it good enough. Dutch pinball. I don't know. We call it dual penetration extreme. Yes So Cole says John Wick comes out and people bitch about the artwork and not having guns He has either killed or fought people with a knife axe bed sheet zip ties uses handcuffs his belt his own hands a horse sword car book and a fucking pencil The man is multi-talented. If not having guns on the artwork gets people that upset where you don't buy that or play the game, more power to them. Even after George Gomez explained that it was a licensure decision, that still wasn't good enough. for the geniuses in the hobby. These are the same people that bitched about the artwork on Godzilla, Shark not eating the ball, and Brody not being on the artwork. They just aren't happy unless they're unhappy, and try to suck people into their pathetic worlds. Wow. Even after George's explanation, these morons still spouted how Stern should have done it anyways. Like, that's how it works. They have come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories and other horseshit, but it just goes to show that their family tree looks more like a wreath and not a mighty oak. Wow. These people buy half of all tinfoil production as they need to make hats. You know when people say they see the light that their head is coming out of their ass. These people need to go to the light. Thank God you guys are actually using your brains and a little common sense and bringing balance to the force. We're bringing balance to the force first. You know one thing I noticed? on Pinside, they were talking about the whole media getting to go to Stern. And I learned Pinside really hates podcasters. Yeah, they do. I hate Pinside, so guess what? It's so weird when they have a podcaster's category in their forum. I know. Let's see. Cole continues on. Enough of that rant of stupid people. The game itself looks good and interesting to play, and from the streams I've seen, it looks fast. It is very fast. Can't wait to play it. Just so you know, I do drive around with a big speaker on my roof telling people to listen to your podcast. It usually sounds like you on the motorcycle. You two girls. Tell your friends. Fucking love it. One of your DPX STDs. Yes. Those are our fans, the Slam Tilt Degenerates, better known as STDs. Let's move that to archived. Let's see. Got a couple emails from Carl. I won't read these. This is not IE Pinball Carl, but Carl with a C, giving me some tips on how to make my slingshots suck less than dialed in. And I thank you. That was the way. Of course, people are saying, you're not going to tell us? Nope. I don't want to be responsible in case you do something wrong and fire your game. Yes. Then you'll blame us, and then we'll get a bad reputation at Jersey Jacket. We'll never get invited. Yep. Let's see. This is from Jeff S. He says, all right. Zach and Bruce were extremely critical of people who were pissed about missing guns on John Wick art and toys. Bruce was highly smug about it. I don't know where to begin with you. Rather, let me give you something to consider. This might be facetious here. Suppose that Big Lebowski is your favorite movie and you love owning pins and the Big Lebowski pinball is being announced. This is Dutch Pinball's first time showing the game and opening up for orders. When Dutch Pinball made the Big Lebowski, they left things off the artwork. No bowling balls, bowling pins, or bowling alleys were shown on the playfield, translight, or cabinet. Further, the lower playfield is scrapped now because it was a disaster. It worked, and it was expensive. But it broke every rule in the book about showing bowling balls, pins, and alley. You can't show alley. Everyone knows this. The Big Lebowski is launched using 10-year-olds, placing it at an international car show. At launch, the supplied video shows none of those items in the game LCD either. Then there's no word from Dutch Pinball. It takes 48 hours for Dutch Pinball to jump into the discussion about the missing balls, pins, and alleys on the artwork and toys. And it doesn't have a lower play field, you heartless bastard. The good news is a few bowling ball scenes that will be added to the LCD showing bowling pins being knocked down in an alley. Come on, Bruce, have some empathy for people who are misled by Stern Marketing. Stern shot themselves in the foot with a John Wolk release, and it did it without firing gun. Mic drop. No, because the problem is with that, and I'm going to be honest, it's in the video. I think he was joking. I know. That's what I'm saying, too. That's why I'm bringing it up. It's in the video. It's in the video, yes. If they were really being woke, you'd see like a big X over the gun every time they fired it. Let's see. I think that's it. Wow. Yeah. This is like our filler episode because, you know, we want to make sure we have our we put content out there for for all the STDs. I mean, it's only. Oh, wow. Only an hour. What else can we talk about, Bruce? People would people might feel shortchanged for the show. They don't pay anything. Come on out to stomp. Come on, stop. Very good at stomp. Stomp is the best ever. I don't even know. I think you're trying to do like... Masterpiece theater here. Yeah, the generic orchestral, yeah, snobbish music. Yes, very much so. We have not sucked so many dicks over at Stern enough yet, but we have. Wow. We're never getting called in. We're not even going to get any employees to interview anymore thanks to you. Oh, no. We like the employees. Well, most of the employees. Jesus. Seen any good movies lately, Bruce? No, I have not. I did buy my tickets for Deadpool Wolverine. Already? Yeah, two months and they're already on sale. Wow. I got the best seat in the house. Okay. So I'm all excited about that. Let's see. Have I seen any movies lately? I watched some more Hong Kong action flicks. some were really bad. Yeah, I think most are really bad. You were being correct. Yes, I would be very correct. No, do not watch Godfrey Ho movies. I will say that because he is a horrible director. Oh, my God. But I did watch, what did I just see yesterday? I watched Fist of Legend. It's basically a remake of Fist of Fury, the Bruce Lee movie, but with Jet Li. That was excellent. That was very good. I might actually add that to my permanent collection. And then I looked and I saw it's coming out in 4K next month. It's like, wow, there's some good timing there. Okay. Let's see. Anything else? Steel Panther will be playing in Albany in September. I was going to ask you. You want to go? No. What? No. The venue I saw, it's all standing room only. No way. No way. My back would be killing me by the second song. How about we go to Buffalo then? no playing buffalo also no i no i don't i don't go to concerts anymore i don't need to see that unless i can sit in a comfortable way where i don't have to stand for the whole fucking show next time they come to uh in between where it's in syracuse because i've been to the syracuse venue they usually do once in a while nice seats because they didn't fill it down the standing yeah the standing room crap oh i don't like that your people like a foot from you are closer everyone smokes weed it's just like it's very uncomfortable claustrophobic i have no desire to do that ever jeff i expect to call to you to be uh calling ron to say get his ass in gear and we're gonna fucking go together all three of us you know panther fuck yeah i do like that they are the um tiger woods our theme music is back in their set i noticed from some of the most recent shows yes if you're wondering what that song is folks that's at the beginning of our show that's that's what is bruce did you hear the rangers won did that make you happy no it did not the rangers and we're talking hockey folks that they're my team they won they won in overtime isn't that great they can win the series they can go to the finals no they need two more wins well that if they can win this series then we're gonna say it's 2014 again Oh, what, are they losing the finals in 2014? Yes, they do. They can't be as successful in the finals as your devils, of course, right? How many cups do you have? Not near as many as the devils do. There you go. Thank you very much. Oh, yeah, I'm not going to say that. That would just be stupid. Just an out-and-out lie. I think we're running out of stuff to say, Bruce. Yeah, I think so, too, but I got a fun name. You've got a fun name? I've got to find a name. Oh, find a name. I thought we were going to be talking for a little bit longer. We should have asked everybody on Facebook to give us questions. Yeah, we could have, but I was driving today from New Jersey. New Jersey. Oh, I thought I smelled something. No? Didn't like that? Oh, well. I'm sorry. Did he come back from Action Park? No. Well, they don't exist anymore, right? They do. They do? Yeah. You can look it up. It's Action Park. They renamed it. Oh, but it can't be the same horrific injury-prone place that it was when you went there. God, I wish it was. For those who don't know, Action Park was an amusement park in New Jersey that had no safety at all. And what, all the people who ran all the rides were all teenagers that were all high? No, because I ran the rides, and I wasn't high. Yeah, but a good portion of them were. Okay, yeah, I agree with that one. Okay. And the rides were just horrifically unsafe. and it was a badge of honor to get injured on them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. I think we're ready. We're ready? Okay. So this has been a short episode 229 on the Slam Tilt Podcast. This weekend, don't forget, follow along on Twitch under Rochester Pinball Collective. ROC Pinball. Yes. Switch.tv slash ROC Pinball. You'll see us out there streaming. Stop. I hear Stu McVicker, he may help us in the announce booth. Did he get his passport renewed? Yes, he's going to be coming in from Romania. He got a visa. That's what he said. He said he's coming in from Romania. He says he will play Thursday, but he's not playing in the main event at all. Nice. I think he's scared myself. I mean, he is getting old. He was the 1978 Playboy Launch Party champion. I mean, he's got to be freaking old. He's got to be freaking freaking old. I think he dyes his hair. I don't think his hair is the real deal. You never know. I wish I had hair. Me too at this point. So, yeah, check out our websites, www.slamtiltpodcast.com. All our links are in the upper right-hand corner, including our Twitch link, which is not where this is going to be streamed, so I probably should have said it that way. But if you just go to twitch.tv and look for the pinball category, and you will see us streaming. Our email address is slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. You can also check out my other show, which is Silver Ball Chronicles, which can be heard. That's two plugs. That's two plugs. On the Pinball Network, check us out. We have an upcoming episode on – actually, I don't know if I could say it or not, if it's been revealed, but it's not necessarily – You can tell our listeners. It's not necessarily – We don't have many. It's not necessarily pinball. It's kind of pinball. It's a different – we're going – we're branching out. Pachinko. We're going pachinko. It's not pachinko. Hello to everyone in our cluster box, several of which got invited to this media event we did. So you never said, would you have gone? You never said, so I'm asking now. Would you have gone? I mean, the tour, like I've been on the tour so many times. It would have been nice to have a slower tour. Yeah, the conference room thing I would have liked. To be in a different section of the building. Yeah. And, you know, I would have went to Logan Arcade and probably just, I don't know, sat around and drank soda. And played games. I guess so. So, yeah. I probably would have went. See? I don't know. I don't know. I'm shorter on time this year, though, on PTO. Yeah, me too. So I would have been – because I'm considering going to the UK Open, which would require going to Robert Englunds and more time. Do you have your pass support? The pass support? The pass support? I have a pass support. Oh, God. We should have mentioned that. Yes. There was – I think it was Kerry Hardy had an interview with a guy from Pedretti. Yes, he did. Everyone was sending us links and saying, hey, this guy sounds like Bruce because he's Italian. And, you know, what the fuck? Oh, God. We make a good pinball. We make it right. Hey, don't worry about the parts. I said you would. They hopefully were coming back like, oh, my God, he does. It's like, oh, God, I feel sorry for this poor guy. I did put a good post up on Slamtail podcast a couple of days ago. Did you see that? Oh, it was important. Graphic, was it? It was alien. and in Italians. Italian aliens. Yes, yes. Okay, it was pretty good, yes. Yes, our listeners. It wasn't as good as that picture you sent earlier that we can't tell. No, no, it wasn't. Oh, man. I'm trying to think of some vague thing I could say that wouldn't give it away, but I can't. Yeah, sorry. Yes. Thanks, everybody. Until next time, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Wendy Jenks. We'll be right back. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, my. Thank you.