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Episode 230 – On The Clock

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·analyzed·Jun 11, 2024
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TL;DR

Stomp tournament recap + IFPA rules critique and streaming challenges.

Summary

Slam Tilt Podcast Episode 230 covers the Rochester Pinball Collective's recent Stomp tournament (61 players Friday, women's qualifier Saturday with 20 players) and related events, including discussions of tournament logistics, streaming issues, rules concerns, and commentary on the ongoing IFPA World Championships. Hosts Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale discuss tournament organization challenges, equipment upgrades, player behavior (stalling), and criticism of repetitive game selection in competitive pinball.

Key Claims

  • Slam Tilt Podcast hosts claim they are the only podcast with their own pinball tournaments, running 12 Stomps total

    medium confidence · Ron: 'We're the only podcast that actually has our own pinball tournaments.' Jeff Teolis disputed: 'He only does it once a year.'

  • Rochester Pinball Collective opened 78 pinball games on location for the first time during Stomp weekend

    high confidence · Ron: 'It was the first night we actually opened up to the full Monty, the 78 games now on location instead of 50.'

  • Friday Night Frenzy had 61 players; women's tournament had 20 players on Saturday

    high confidence · Ron: 'We had 61 players start off for Friday Night Frenzy' and 'The women came in, 20 strong'

  • Staller behavior (excessive time between shots) is a significant problem in competitive pinball, exemplified by Arvid and Jason Zahler at IFPA Championships

    high confidence · Ron discussing IFPA World Championships: 'If there's a tilt, it's two minutes. If there's no tilt, it's one minute. Just like the pitchers do in MLB now.'

  • IFPA World Championships had 10,000 viewers at peak, with 1,100 watching during Ron's commentary

    medium confidence · Ron: '10,000 people watching last night' and 'today there was 1,100'

  • Tim Sexton posted criticism on YouTube about tournament pinball, including $1 IFPA fee and lack of amenities

    medium confidence · Ron: 'Tim, he's been posting some stuff on his YouTube lately. And the funny thing is the first person that posted it was IFPA.'

  • Jerry Bernard won Stomp finals on Star Wars despite having 'no clue what he was shooting at any point'

    high confidence · Ron: 'And he won on Star Wars, and he had no clue what he was shooting at any point.'

  • IFPA World Championships restrict players to picking from three games across different eras (EM/early SS, middle, modern)

    high confidence · Ron: 'You have to pick your first three games, which is going to be EM slash early solid state... They do different eras.'

Notable Quotes

  • “We're the only podcast that actually has our own pinball tournaments.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~05:30 — Community status claim; disputed by Bruce referencing Jeff Teolis

  • “If there's a tilt, it's two minutes. If there's no tilt, it's one minute. Just like the pitchers do in MLB now.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~45:00 — Proposes rules change to combat stalling behavior in tournament play

  • “He won on Star Wars, and he had no clue what he was shooting at any point.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~28:00 — Commentary on winner Jerry Bernard's gameplay at Stomp finals

  • “The Iceman – and he's not a staller. He wants to get up. He wants to plunge. He'll go.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~50:00 — Defense of Steve Zahler's playstyle; contrasts with son Jason's deliberate pacing

  • “If I had to see one more game of Centaur with no multiball... I was just like, oh, my God.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~52:00 — Criticism of repetitive game selection at IFPA Championships

  • “Rochester. No, you ain't New York City, bro.”

    Ron Hallett (quoting Tim Sexton's criticism) @ ~62:00 — References Tim Sexton's YouTube critique that non-urban tournaments are inferior

  • “We need a timer and game choice. It will never be a big thing, folks.”

    Ron Hallett @ ~58:00 — Summary of Ron's proposed tournament rule changes

Entities

Ron HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonStu McVickerpersonJerry BernardpersonRochester Pinball CollectiveorganizationCarter CastlemanpersonCaitlinpersonZachpersonStephpersonJason Zahlerperson

Signals

  • ?

    community_signal: Slam Tilt Podcast hosts organizing multiple tournament events throughout year at multiple venues; planning fall Stomp and late October/early November tournament

    high · Ron: 'we're going to have one, I think, in the fall coming up' and 'another big tournament... late October, early November'

  • ?

    event_signal: Stomp tournament at Rochester Pinball Collective successfully executed with 61 players Friday, 20 women Saturday; venue expanded to 78 machines

    high · Ron: 'We had 61 players start off for Friday Night Frenzy' and 'first night we actually opened up to the full Monty, the 78 games'

  • ?

    community_signal: Tim Sexton posted YouTube critique of IFPA tournament structure criticizing $1 fee, facility amenities, and geographic venue bias (favoring urban areas)

    medium · Ron: 'Tim, he's been posting some stuff on his YouTube lately' and 'from his little manifesto... if the tournament's not in a high-volume urban area... then it's just shit'

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Stalling behavior (excessive time between shots) is perceived as major problem affecting tournament quality and viewership; exemplified by Jason Zahler and Arvid at IFPA Championships

    high · Ron: 'If there's a tilt, it's two minutes. If there's no tilt, it's one minute' proposal; discussion of players taking 2+ minutes between shots

  • ?

    design_philosophy: IFPA World Championships criticized for repetitive game selection (same 3 games picked repeatedly) and boring gameplay; Centaur played without multiball or lane change

Transcript

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0:00
Get the ladder, Beavis. Oh, hey, um... Who are you? I'm Butthead, assface. Um... Which one of those is your name? And which one is what you're calling me?
0:12
Just get the ladder, dumbass. What's a ladder? It's that thing over there that's a ladder. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks, assface.
0:30
Coming to you from beautiful upstate New York, this is the Slamtail Podcast, the show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett, here with the other host, Bruce Elmer Nightingale. Yes, now I am more sexier than ever. New and improved, Bruce. Yes, not only do you have a new sexy name, Elmer. Elmer is my middle name. Middle name, that's what the E stands for. But we have, we've upgraded, folks. Yes, we are now off of the Canon string, and we now have professional grade equipment.
1:09
Yeah, Bruce has a microphone. Yes, thanks to Ron. I actually have a professional microphone. Professional microphone. So he just has to make sure he doesn't move all over the place. So he goes in and out of volume. Oh, yeah. And there he goes, yes. Yeah. So, yeah, we got the, whatchamacallit, popcorn. guard and all that stuff. No more peas in my penises of hopping around.
1:31
Well, you weren't popping before, but we're making sure you're not popping now. I don't want to pop too early.
Arvid Flygar
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Keith Elwinperson
Steve Zahlerperson
Tim Sextonperson
Jeff Teolisperson
Josh Sharpperson
Jim Belsitoperson
IFPA World Championshipsevent
Stompevent
Three Strikes Tournamentevent

high · Ron: 'If I had to see one more game of Centaur with no multiball... They kept on seeing the same three games'

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Zach multitasking as tournament director, player, game technician, and rule maker during Stomp while simultaneously scheduling house inspection

    high · Ron: 'He was playing in the tournament, running the tournament, fixing the games, rulings, and trying to schedule an inspection for his house all simultaneously'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Community criticism of IFPA World Championships format gaining traction; Tim Sexton's YouTube video reposted by IFPA itself suggests internal awareness of issues

    medium · Ron: 'the first person that posted it was IFPA' (referring to Tim Sexton's criticism video)

  • ?

    technology_signal: RPC invested in wireless camera rig for tournament streaming; experienced line-of-sight issues with player camera requiring upgraded receiver-transmitter

    high · Discussion of monoprice receiver issues, columns blocking line of sight, planned upgrade to new receiver-transmitter

    • 1:38
    Okay. So hopefully, yes, we've graduated beyond the headsets. Yes, it only took us how many years? Eight? Yeah. Eight years. Yeah, eight years to fully graduate to what most podcasts probably do on the first recording. Yes, we are now Now, professional grade. We're going to get sued by GMC. Professional grade. Does that mean we can do Patreon now? No. Damn. Unless you want to. No. I won't take any of the money. This is episode 230. Yes. So the post-stomp episode. Yes. First thing I'd like to say is congratulations to all of our winners. And thank you for everyone who came out. We had 61 players. Really impressive. Some guy named Jerry took a lot of fucking points on him. Jerry. Jerry Bernard. Yes. But think about it. We're the only podcast that actually has our own pinball tournaments. Jeff Teolis might want to have a little talk with you on that one. Yeah. He only does it once a year.
    2:46
    Because there's two stomps that's different? Yeah. Okay. We've got 12 stomps under our belt now. Ah. Okay. You know, he only does the beast, you know, once in a while. and then he does that pinball profile tour, but he's jumping around from place to place. Everyone wants to see him. You know, they got to see us.
    3:05
    But you know who they did see at Stomp? They did see somebody special. At least the day before. Yes. So, yeah, folks, this is going to be Stomp heavy here, at least in recap. So if you weren't there, you need to come. You need to come next time because we're going to have one, I think, in the fall coming up for yours. We have to start talking about dates for yours. And then we're going to have another tournament at the world-famous Rochester Pinball Collective, hopefully the beginning, late October, early November. Oh, I mean, so like another, so not like, because I saw you guys are going to have a John Wick launch party. Yeah, Nunchuck tournament in June. Nunchuck tournament, okay. Yeah.
    3:51
    But no, I'm talking about another big tournament. We just want to have two or three during the year. Nothing like – October, is that a good idea? Because Expo is in October, and so is your October. End of October, early November.
    4:03
    I can't do it late November because I'm not even around. I get a vacation. You actually get vacations? I do get vacations, and this will be a nice one. Wow. 14 days away. Wow. Very cool. Oh, it's not 14 days away. You mean 14 days of vacation. Yes, 14 days of vacation. Yeah, I'm a little slow. Yes, you are. But not Stu. Not Stu McVicker. No. Stu McVicker came out on Thursday. Thursday for the, there was a strikes tournament. Strikes tournament, Stern Army strikes tournament. Yeah. And you know what? That guy knows how to play pinball a little bit. He, yeah, he won the strikes tournament. It was the three strikes tournament. Three strikes tournament. He beat Howard Zach in the final game on Alien Star. I wasn't there yet. so I couldn't stream it, unfortunately, so we didn't get to see this. No, you were not, but I actually got to play in that one. Yes, you were in the final with Stu and, yeah. Yeah, I think I finished fourth. It was Kevin, Bruce, Zach, and Stu. Actually, no, I finished third. I finished third, so I was right behind you and Zach. I mean, Stu, McVicker, and Stack. Viper screwed you. Yes, Viper does always screw me. The game you bought, and to show its thanks, it screwed you. Yes, it always screws me, of course. That's the story of my life. but uh no uh so we had uh almost 32 players i'm looking right at it was 28 players or no 28 no that's not 24 20 20 i don't know how this works 24 23 24 what the fuck are you talking about six uh okay uh so it's 25 26 27 28 29 30 players yeah 30 okay so 30 players and uh we had a really good showing from uh oh no 33 it says it right at the top there you go so i think i was right originally So say it again. Say it loud. Say it proud. Chris is always right. Yes. But, yes, we had a lot of players come out. It was a great time. Three strikes. We went until about, I think it was almost 9 o'clock, 9.30 when we finished. That was the easiest night we had. Yeah, yeah. No streaming or anything. That was just the tournament. Just a fun time. It was the first night we actually opened up to the full Monty, the 78 games now on location instead of 50. Wow. So I wasn't even there for the debut. Just Stu was. Nope, just Stu was. And Stu, he wins. Yes, he does. And then he just left. Like he said he was going to help announce over the weekend. He did say that, but he just bolted. And he lied. He never showed up. Yeah, he left me to do everything. I think immigration was looking for him after that. We had a couple of people come by asking for Stu McVicker. They looked kind of shady.
    6:46
    So these things do happen. But, yeah, so we had 30 people on the first night. And then the amazing thing is the points that he got, the Whopper points he got, just they came to me. He just donated them to me. I don't know how he did that, but it's amazing. I didn't think that was allowed in IFPA. I didn't think that was allowed either. but I guess everyone says we look alike anyway, so I guess that was good enough. I don't see it. Yeah, I don't see it either, but some people say we look alike. He looks fat and ugly. Oh, he's in pretty good shape for an old guy. I mean, he is pretty old. We're talking about you, not Stu. Oh!
    7:23
    Screw you, Elmer. Elmer fat. You're like Elmer's glue. Just stick. My mama told me bring him something for dinner. yes that is Bruce right there how many lumps do you want oh three or four give me a whole lot of lumps was that Puma Peter no Puma is a tiger well there was you were doing different characters the one was like the bird the other one is the Puma I want a whole lot of lumps uh but yeah so uh friday we open the doors at three at the beautiful rochester pinball collective where is it where is it uh that is at 349 west commercial street in beautiful east rochester new york suite 2965 with over 78 pinball machines on location for your enjoyment uh yes so uh wednesday i sorry friday night we had uh friday morning we opened up No, Friday afternoon. I didn't know until 3. I worked. Oh, well, we were there. You were there doing other stuff. But we opened at 3. We had 61 players start off for Friday Night Frenzy.
    8:45
    Two assholes were broadcasting. I don't know who the hell those jerk-offs were. I think that was us, Bruce. Oh, fuck. They were great. Yes, they were absolutely great. A lot of things broke down, of course, but we got them back up and running as soon as we could. I think literally four games died that whole weekend. Then it was Saturday morning was the women's tournament for the qualifying. And then Sunday and then all day Saturday till what time did we leave there? I think it was like one o'clock in the morning. And then the next morning we had to be back there at eight o'clock to get ready for the nine o'clock opening. Well, who won the Friday frenzy? Friday frenzy was let me look. Hold on. It was Castleman. Carter Castleman. Carter. Yes, Carter Castleman beat his father. Yes, yes, that was it. Yes. Of course, I was rooting for the dad because I'm old. I know, me too. These dumb young whippersnappers. But yes, so that was a good time.
    9:43
    And then Saturday, boom, we just turned right back around. The women came in, 20 strong, and Steph was a little late as always. Yes, and then we all got yelled at. by the the leader zach because because zach was uh he he had to come in later because he was he was uh looking at getting a house and he was at a house inspection and came in and asked why we were so far behind and when we said well that's your fault it was your job to keep her in line like oh okay i didn't we didn't realize i didn't know this uh i'm not usually there so i'm not taking i didn't notice either but he's like you can't let steph just go on a because we're like Like, hey, we even said, like, hey, Steph, it's 10.30. We got to get started. No, I think it's 10.45. Like, no, Steph, it's 10.30. No, we're going to start at 10.45. So we were immediately behind. Then we didn't start until literally 11.10. That was the first start of the first match. So we were behind, and Zach came in. He was as mad as Zach can get. That was really, he was looking at us like, why did you let her get away with this? Did we have a choice in the matter? I don't remember having a choice in the matter. Did you have a choice in the matter? I'm not involved. I'm just a guest. No, you're not a guest. You're a host here. No, no guest. And you're almost like the sixth silent partner. No, I'm not a silent partner. I'm just the rig guy. That's it. You're the rig guy and the donation of the cameras and donator of the computer there. Which worked pretty good. Pretty good. We had some blockages. We never used it. It's the blockages. That sounds bizarre. Oh, my. You know, I'm kidding. I felt it moving through my body, and then all of a sudden it just stopped. So this is the first time we had to use it. We used it in the new section. Yes. So I was curious on how it would work. And I even asked Zach like a day before, like, hey, should we hook this up Friday and just leave it on one game and then we can try it out? Yeah, I heard you guys say that. And then I asked, did you guys test any of this? And he's like, no. No. Okay, great. So I think Friday, hours before he opened, I just took the rig and kind of went around. The room and saw where the bench was. Yeah, the issue, honestly, the play field and score cam worked fine, no matter where you put it. They worked excellent. But the player cam, which is using the old monoprice receiver transmitter, had issues because there are several spots where columns block the line of sight and other things like that. So I played with that throughout the week. It wasn't optimal, but I think I've already taken care of this issue. Oh, my. i.e. a new receiver transmitter has been purchased. Yes. And I will install it on my next trip there. So I have a question for you now. Uh-huh. Did we fix the battery issue? We also had a battery issue that Friday. That only happened the first day. Okay. So once you switched out the battery, we were good? I didn't really do anything. I just plugged them in different spots, and then it didn't have an issue. Did you plug it in hard? Yeah, very hard, Bruce. I plugged it in very hard. Yeah. So, yes. So the format was it was like qualification for the women. So like no ladder. What am I saying? The ladder would be later. The ladder was qualifier was finals. Yes. So what it was, it was a two and a half hour flip frenzy, which then went to almost 240 when we were supposed to start at two. So we were 40 minutes behind. Plus, we had to give a couple of minutes break so they can get their composure and then match play. So you know when it finished? One. Oh, it's actually 1245. Yeah, around 1230. I got back at Zach's around 1 a.m. No, I didn't. I left at 1. Oh, you might have left early. Oh, maybe we did leave at 1. Yeah, we left there at 1. Either way, way too long. Yeah, yeah. Way too long. What I want to do next time, we were trying to make it as easy as possible, but I would like to put some more breaks in there. We did have a break for dinner. We actually bought pizza, so that was great. We got five sheet pizzas, and boy, they went fast. Yeah, they actually – usually when you guys get pizza, there's pizza remaining. There was no pizza remaining. We got five sheets. And, you know, I think there should be literally two or three breaks. Like maybe like, you know, even if it's a 30-minute food break and then a 30-minute break at like round 14 or 13.
    14:10
    Just so you get a little – but then I know some people go, well, you know, I was hot until I took a break and then, then I just cooled right now, you know, and you're never going to make everyone happy, but I think there should have been a longer break actually after the women's, but unfortunately we were a little late. We didn't have time.
    14:29
    So then that all went down. And, uh, next thing we did next, we turned around and we had the finals for the women and for the, uh, main, the main started first. Cause it was longer. The main was at 930, and then the women's started at 950, 955. We tried to get a little early on that.
    14:51
    And you can go over to winners now, Mr. Ron. The women's winner was – well, the top four was – the winner was – well, I'll go up. I'll go up, yeah. And fourth place was Lauren. Yep. I won't say last name as a case. Yeah, a case. Even though I said Jerry's last name, but everyone knows Jerry. Jerry, Jerry. uh third was amy yep uh second was miriam yep and first was caitlin who was originally from rochester yes yes she's from rochester originally her parents still live in the area hometown so then for the finals for stop finals for stop there was three americans and one canadian if i remember right well is matthew canadian no you're not no it was four americans it was it was all All four New Yorkers. That's right. It was all four New Yorkers. Matthew was fourth. Yep. Andy was third. Yes. Bob was second. Yep. And first was Jerry. And he brought home a ton of points. And he won on Star Wars, and he had no clue what he was shooting at any point. No clue at all. It was great. He started one of the Tatooine modes. You know, shoot the orange shots. He had one orange shot left on the left orbit, and it just stayed lit for at least a ball and a half. He never shot it once. Never shot it again. And when the TIE fighters come up, like when it starts to hit the button, I just ignore it. And that's what he did. Oh. He just ignored the button. He literally did. I watched the whole time like, okay, when's it going to hit the button? Nope, no interest. All of it was streamed. You can check it out on twitch.tv slash ROCPinball. Or you can go to YouTube. All the finals are archived now. Yes. Under I Believe Your Channel is also ROCPinball. It is ROCPinball. And then afterwards we had a six strike. Well, you didn't have it afterwards. It was going on the same time as the finals. And we allowed everyone, of course, to play. Yes. So there was delays in certain instances. But we got out of there by 530.
    16:56
    Everything was done by 530. And the winner of that was Carter again. Yes, Carter's name. Carter did really well. We also said the last name of him, so I guess we fell. But they stream, so it's okay. Everyone knows who they are. Yes, they do stream. Zach was second.
    17:09
    Steph was third. You and Steph were, according to this, I'm looking here. We were fourth, and Mark was third. Mark from New York City was third, and me and Steph were tied for fourth. What am I looking at then? I'm looking at stomp six versus strikes.
    17:24
    Well, I'm looking at the IFPA ratings. Because we had a tiebreaker. Yeah, June 2nd, 12 p.m., this is it. I don't get it. Okay, maybe it's this. We did find out that people were just getting random strikes. It was strikes. It was actually on Sunday. It was Sunday strikes. Yeah. People were just getting random strikes that weren't like, oh, this is why I have four strikes. I know I only have three. And we could see where it was giving random. So there's issues there. A little problem with software. A little problem with software there, but yeah. But a very good turnout. We are very happy. We're very grateful. Thank you for everyone who supports us. And next we'll be at Ron's house with 75 people. No, we need more people in the booth area, though. Yes, I agree. Because the problem is, me and you are the only ones not playing. So all the other owners are playing. So I'm back there doing the stream. And people, like regular customers, are coming in. Like, I can't check them in. I know. I don't work. You have to learn. No, I don't want to learn. You're going to learn. Nope. I've got to run and grab somebody. And I had to keep doing that over and over. Yes, yes. I'm going to get him right. Bruce, this game is broke. Okay. And then someone, Bruce, this game is broke. I'm doing this right now. I'm doing it. I got my hands full. I got two in front of you. Yeah. Yeah, Bruce was getting pissed, you know, like he does. I was getting pissed a little bit because people just come to me. And I told everyone, I'll give you a yellow card if you don't. And I came very close, a couple of people. They just come in like, hey, I'm like, hold on. I'm the only person doing it right now. I said, you can go ask Zach. And Zach's sitting right there on his phone, just sitting there. Like, Zach's right there. We already told everyone who the tournament directors were, and they just all, of course, all came to me. Zach, the multitasking expert.
    19:13
    Because he was, I saw Thursday, so he's playing in the tournament, running the tournament, fixing the games, rulings, and trying to schedule an inspection for his house all simultaneously. Yeah, Friday. Yeah, it was pretty funny. He's like, who did you use for an inspector? I'm like, oh. And he's the man. I'm like, hold on. Let me get my, you know, guy called Tex Cathy. Kathy came back to me like two minutes later. Here's the name. I give it to Zach. Zach's like, oh, shit, I got to figure out this whole thing. And he got an appointment the next day at 9 o'clock. I was like, there you go.
    19:42
    Unfortunately, 9 o'clock was the start of the practice for the women's tournament. But he came in at like 11.
    19:50
    So yeah overall Excellent time We had a really good time I think with the extra equipment the rig should be all shored up for the next event Yep And we going to bring a couple more games in Oh, more games. Well, two more. We're going to make a nice even 80.
    20:07
    And we're going to mount up the TVs. And we're going to get a couple benches against the windows. So people can sit a little bit more while waiting.
    20:17
    Okay. Now what people want to hear, more tournament stuff. Yes, more tournaments. My FBA championships is going on as we speak. As we speak. As we speak because it takes forever. Oh, my. They need a time. Honestly, I'm watching some of these guys, and they walk up to the machine. He looks at his phone, some of these guys, and then they walk away. I'm like, there's no reason for you to walk away. There wasn't a tilt. There wasn't even a warning on this thing. They just walk away, and then they're gone for like two minutes. Then they come back, and they're like, oh. and then they start playing with the flipper buttons and feeling a little bit, and then they plunge. I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ, we need a timer. If there's a tilt, it's two minutes. If there's no tilt, it's one minute. Just like the pitchers do in MLB now. Because it makes it such a boring stream.
    21:07
    Yeah, the waiting. It's just ridiculous. This is the IFPA World Championships, which is one of the ones I really like because it's all head-to-head after a certain point. And there's 1,100 people watching. It wasn't like it was 12 or 15 people. There was 10,000 people watching last night. I know. But, I mean, today there was 1,100.
    21:25
    The one of the brackets was like the old man bracket. Yes. It's like all the older players, which ended up going to Keith Elwin before he got eliminated. Yes. And then it was just all kids, basically. Who's in it still? So right now the finals are going on. It's Jason Zahler versus Arvid. And I'm not even going to try to say his last name. I like Arvid. But he was one of the stallers. I was watching him when he was playing his fellow countryman, and I was like, oh, my God, just hit the button. Jason's not any faster. Oh, I know. Jason learned from his dad. He does it on purpose. I swear to God, he does. He really does. Yeah. Well, Steve Zoller, his dad, back in the day, his nickname amongst the New York City crew was the Iceman. Yeah. Because he would ice every, you know, I'm going to the bathroom. I think we said this when we were at Pentastic. He was playing Zach, said he was going to go to the bathroom, and he was gone for a while. So Zach's like, well, I'm going to go to the bathroom. And he went to go to the bathroom, and Chase was just standing outside on his phone, just standing there doing nothing. Yeah, just doing nothing. Ice, baby. No, we need a timer. Ice, ice, baby. There need to be timers above each one.
    22:37
    By the TD starts it. In two minutes, he starts plunging off the ball. There's no tilt. It's just getting old. And if we want to be competitive pinball on Twitch, we have to make it faster and more streamlined than slow and no. There's a lot of issues with tournament pinball. According to a certain Tim Sexton. Oh, I heard about this. Tim, he's been posting some stuff on his YouTube lately. And the funny thing is the first person that posted it was IFPA. Oh, yeah. But yeah, basically bashing the $1 fee and how everything's gone downhill with tournaments. And no bathrooms and it's all farmer. Oh, no breaks. So he'd be on your side with the more breaks thing. Yes. And no – like one had one bathroom. Luckily at the RPC, we have like eight bathrooms in the area. Yeah, but he wouldn't like RPC because from his little manifesto, if the tournament's not in a high-volume urban area with lots of stuff around, then it's just shit. We do have a lot of stuff around. It's within two to three miles. No, you're Rochester. No, you ain't New York City, bro. No, no, we're not New York City. Oh, no, no, because I've done many tournaments in New York City, and they're so good. But it's just like it was funny. The whole part he had where he honestly thinks that at one point that pinball could compete with other actual sports on TV. He called it a sport. It's not a sport. He called it a sport. It will never compete on television with any of this stuff. No. It never, ever will. And it has no – no, there is no unless. No, no. There is no way. There is a change to make it less. Oh, okay. What's the change, Bruce? How are you going to make – How long was that round? It went longer than two of the other – Exactly. Two full rounds went through. Yes. So what does that tell you? The Iceman – and he's not a staller. He wants to get up. He wants to plunge. He'll go. You think people, though, are going to sit and watch these games? Well, some people were. As 10,000 people showed up and watched, it did contribute to the power of pinball. You think people are going to just willingly sit there and watch people play Godzilla for an hour?
    24:52
    Some people did. Some people didn't. It all varies. No. As opposed to one of the final matches I saw, one of the matches, the final game was on Iron Man. I know. And it was fucking awesome. It was awesome. But not everything is like that. No, no, no. And the thing is, they need to change the rules up a little bit. These guys were picking the same three games. Oh, yes. That's where I love RPC. You can't pick the same three games every time. Well, you know, you're the one who wants all these big events there at RPC. If they are and, you know, 5PA runs them, they're going to do their rules. Oh, I agree with that, too. But maybe that should be changed. It was just literally we saw Centaur. We saw Royal Flush. Not Royal Flush. We saw, what's it called? What's the Solid State? We saw the Stern game you love until it broke. Yeah, High Roller Casino.
    25:45
    You know, but we kept on seeing the same. They would pick the same three games. Yep. Change that too, guys. Make it more interesting. People don't want to come in. Bruce, the argument is going to be from Josh. I can hear it right now. They want to find out who the best players are, and they don't want to penalize. If you in the first round get seeded high because you kicked ass, you shouldn't be penalized and made to pick other games you don't want to pick. Well, guess what? That's called strategy. You have to know how many rounds you're going to go and say, hey, maybe I hold back a couple games when I'm falling behind. You have to pick the first. Here's the thing about IFPA, the championships. You have to pick your first three games, which is going to be EM slash early solid state. They do different eras. A middle. So you should like that. I love that part. But they were kept on picking the three same games. And I was like, if I had to see one more game of Centaur with no multiball. Oh, yeah. And no lane change. No lane change. And no lane change. I know. and I understood the strategy of going for the left targets and then of course getting the right targets to go 1, 2, 3, 4 to get the big score I didn't see people do what I was expecting to do is just shoot it back up top and try to get some lanes and maybe get a bonus multiplier because the super bonus did hold over they know how to play better than you do Bruce well maybe not we don't know that but guess what That's where I feel like if you're trying to keep people in, you make it more competitive. Guess what? If somebody just squeaks in, they're the 32nd player. Am I going to wait and hold back my four best games? No, I'm going to pick my three best games. No, I'm going to pick my three best games right then and there instead of saying, I might make it to the next round. No, that's where strategy comes in. If you are the higher seed, all you have to worry about is literally picking nine games. And there wasn't a shortage of games there. There's 75-plus games at Jim's house. So let's say each one has 25 in each group. I think you can find three or four games that have Godzilla and then Centaur and then some Solid State. I was just like, oh, my God.
    28:03
    Don't get me wrong. It's entertaining to see some of these guys play. Like the kid who's in the finals right now with Arvid. No, Arvid, yeah. He was digging out some outlanes, you know, the out, you know, just the outlane drains, you know, he was digging them out and shaking it up. And I was like, holy shit. This kid. What do you think? We started recording. It's one. Oh, right now. It's one. Oh, what do you think? Their match will be done. Oh, it's two. Oh, no, it's two. Oh, Jason's dollars ahead. Will it be over? Wow. You don't want USA to win. What are you? No, you're not. Nope. You don't want. Go Finland! He's not from Finland. He's Sweden. Oh, he's from Sweden. Go Sweden! Well, you must have liked the, what was the other thing called? The Epstein Cup. Yes, I do. Which is basically the Ryder Cup. Yes, the Ryder Cup. Because Josh Sharp loves golf, and it's the same thing as the Ryder Cup, whereas USA versus Europe, and each side picks their teams. I knew USA was in trouble because they had four old guys. Yep, four old farts. By old guys, I mean anyone over 25 is old. Yes, it is. They had four guys over 25. Meanwhile, Team Europe only had three guys over 25. So they immediately had the advantage. It went down to literally the last game. It was like it was tied. So they had to have some kind of Godzilla off. Yeah, I know. What did they do? Like one ball on Godzilla or something? I don't remember what they did. But Europe won, which is just, that's, oh, come on. Go Sweden.
    29:34
    Let's kick some butt. Oh, yeah. Okay. Wow. Man, you are an American. Oh, what the hell is that? Not at all. Nope, nope, not at all. Nope, I like to see the underdog win. Are they the underdog? They're ranked pretty high. Oh, he's ranked. But Jason is ranked number one, so. Yeah, so three versus one I think it is right now. I think he's third. Yeah, I think it is something like that. So it's going to be, yeah. So you think it will still be going? And they're both going to be under 22. You think it's still, it'll be, will they be done by the time we're finished or no? It's going to be done 930 Eastern, unless it's a four-game sweep. Okay. But unless, you know, Zayler ices it, you know, oh, I got to go potty again. I got to go poopy again. It's funny. I just bring it up, and then you just take it to the worst possible extremes.
    30:25
    I'm going to walk up to the machine, oops, put your hand up to your mouth, go oops, and then run off like you got to go poopy. Like you got diarrhea right at that moment? Yeah, exactly. But we need a couple things, rule changes. Timer and game choice. It will never be a big thing, folks. It's just not going to happen. Timer, change, game choice. So it's not always the same three games. Trust me, I love pinball, and as I said, seeing the same three games was just like – But I would listen to Timmy saying it was very entertaining. Oh, it was very entertaining. So go to his YouTube site. Just look for Tim Sexton. When he talks about farm – whopper farming. Whopper farm and how the places where you whopper farm are literally next to farms. Yeah, and we're not next to farms, though. We're in the fourth biggest city in New York State. So what does that tell you? That tells you the other cities are tiny compared to New York City. New York City!
    31:23
    Well, luckily, you know, we can't compete against them. Yeah, don't come back for that. We couldn't compete against New York City. Well, here's the funny thing, Bruce. What's that? I was looking at the New York State rankings. Yes. Before Stomp occurred. Oh, yeah, I know. I think there was only one upstater in the top 24, and that was Andy. Andy, yes. No one else. And Eric was like 25th or 26th. No one else was in it. Then Stu McVicker won that strikes tournament, and being a nice guy, he gave the points to me. Yeah, I know. Wow. And then, boom, I was in the middle of the top 24. Yeah. Then Stomp happened, and I am no longer in the top 24, along with a lot of New York City people are no longer in the top 24. We're going to hear about crying about that. And then wait until the Beast comes up. When the Beast comes up. Yeah, they're going to have to go there. if no New York City pinball championships happen. Oh, no. And I don't hear anything. I haven't heard anything. I mean – And if you listen to Timmy's video, he kind of says, like, it was his past gig. He kind of talked about it in the past tense, like ran, like previously ran. So that was interesting. I did pick up on that, yes. I did pick up on that, too. So I was like, ooh.
    32:34
    I mean, because you would figure they would have to announce it by now. If they were going to have it in the fall, they would have to announce it now. They can't announce it a month before it's going to happen. No, so I don't think there's going to be a New York City championship. And it can't be in the winter because it's New York City.
    32:48
    It'll snow in the day. That's why I don't want to have the tournament at the Stomp before November 10th because of the chance of snow.
    32:57
    Okay, Bruce, now that we've pissed off all the tournament things we could possibly piss off. Who else can we talk about now? I got Jaws accessories are coming out, Bruce. I got something even bigger. They're going to be announced. Nope, I got something even bigger. Oh, okay. What?
    33:14
    Ron is going to see Steel Panther with the Brewster. Yeah. I convinced him because it's the same weekend as Death Ball. Yeah, it is. It's the same weekend as the famous Death Ball. Yes, and since Ron was like, oh, it's going to be General Admission, I'm like, nope, I can get seats. There's a table for two. There's a table. Yep. With a table, I'll do it. I stay true to my word. I said if I could sit, I would do it. And he's going to see some Steel Panthers. So if you guys want to come and watch some Steel Panther also, come join us. August 23rd. Wherever the hell it is, I don't know. Steel, it's something like a place in Buffalo. Some place in Buffalo. That's very, very specific. Yes, hold on. I'll give you two seconds. Hold on. I'm going to go to my new and improved faster computer. Whoa, which would mean death ball is the 24. The 24th. Well, it probably will be. We'll see. Yeah, but I got the computer better now, Ron. I took off like 40 gigs of stuff. Wow. Yeah, so it's actually moving on in. Yes, I visited Bruce. We installed a new microphone, and I got to see where all the magic happens. Yes. Electric City is the name of the place in Buffalo. And it's literally like this tiny desk in the corner. It doesn't take up a lot of room. Just get it tucked in there. He had to walk around the playfield of Stargate. No, Quicksilver. Yeah. Which I haven't even finished yet. No.
    34:39
    But like I was saying, Jaws accessories. Yes. Hey, did you know that Steel Panther, and that's going to be the first concert of their new tour? We get to see them raw and fresh. That's not. They've been touring. Like, they're touring now. Like, you can see. No, I know. But, I mean, for this new thing. They're already on the new thing, Bruce. No, they're not. Yes, they are. I'm looking at the dates. I'm looking at the rates right now. Okay, Bruce. You can be as mad as you want. You literally could go to YouTube and see shows like from this month. No, I know that. I know, but they're going to take a month off between July 12th to our tournament, I mean our concert, and they restart up again. Yeah, but the tour is called the same thing, Bruce. Oh, it's always called the same thing. But we at least get the fresh Steel Panther. Oh, they're fresh. Fresh.
    35:26
    Hopefully they have our theme song in there and they're set. No, of course they do. Because they have recently. Yes, I know. Jaws accessories. That's the pinball machine we need, Steel Panther. The accessories will be announced. And what do we say when this happens, Ron? Well, the topper supposedly is only going to be the $1,000 topper, so it's not going to be as cool. No, it's going to be inferior. I do not want it. It's only $1,000. Yeah. I saw the coolest topper yesterday. Which was? The Black Knight Sword of Rage topper. still nothing compares to that thing i just sat there and watched it talking to me you're still there bruce oh i'm here there's dead silence again oh you're dead silencing i i don't know if you were doing that for effect i i that didn't really work worked perfect because then you had to think about it and ask about it well i just figured you disconnected somehow not with me at my new and improved computer it's the same computer uh so dpx which dual penetration extreme extreme which actually stds which stands for dutch pinball exclusive i finally remembered what the x stands for no it stands for dual penetration extreme and it comes with stds alice in wonderland is supposed to be it's going to come out in quarter three hey we'll just buy somebody else's shit then and work and make it our own that we can barely make our own stuff with that's the thing it's going to be poppy dukes house and wonderland which didn't work. So hopefully they make it work somehow. Yeah.
    37:03
    Okay. Crickets on that one. Yeah. Hey, buyer beware. Buyer beware. There was a David fix interview on the, um, the pinball magazine. You're, you're saying in the wrong way. Please start this over. That's right, baby. David fix, David fix interview, baby. I was interviewed on the, uh, what is the pinball magazine? Pinball news podcast, baby. Oh, Pincap, that's what I'm saying, baby. The common man saying his common things on the Common Podcast, baby. Woo!
    37:32
    No, Ric Flair was not on the podcast, baby. The death to the Ric Flair. No, it was – I recommend it. It was interesting. So I'm subscribed to their podcast, and when I saw it come up, they have a monthly podcast where they basically go over the previous month, and they go over each pinball manufacturer. Yes. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and any news that happened. And it's usually like an hour, an hour and a half. I noticed it's three and a half hours. The first thing that popped in my head was, I wonder if they had David Fix on there for an interview. Oh, yeah. Because he's been on there before, and it usually goes long. And wouldn't you know? Surprise, surprise. I was right. All right. They grilled him pretty good. Was he done, like, medium well, or was he done medium?
    38:19
    I mean. Did they rotate him, or did one side get burned and the other side was, like, raw? Some of them are just contradictory things. Like Ametron, the company that owns American Pinball. They're based out of India. Yes. And they're going public. They want to go public. And as part of that, they released financials. So they released the financials for American Pinball. And you can see that they were actually doing quite well until about, what was it, the middle of 2023? Yes. And then it's kind of tanked. Yes, because of the two games they've made. And they asked him about that. And it's funny. The first time I ever remember him actually saying this, people have wondered why they were doing these original themes. Licensing. And he actually said pretty much they couldn't afford the licensing. Yeah, of course not. And that's why they were doing it, which he's never said before. Well, it's common sense. Why do you think these customers – But he's never said it. But, I mean, I don't understand how much – think about this. You see Barrels of Fun and all these other companies buying these licensing, and you can't, who's been around now for four or five or six games?
    39:27
    It's not a good site. It was contradictory. Like one hand, he's like, you know, yeah, we're selling last, but it's not really that bad. And then later on in the interview, he says how they've laid off people. Yeah. And I'm like, oh. Yeah. I don't know. it supposedly like the next two games are going to be licenses so we get to see what happens with that It supposed to be Cuphead And the one after that is supposed to be He which that would be more interesting I think that might save them. But if Cuphead doesn't throw them in the fucking gutter. Cuphead? Is that the porn version? Yes. You grab the guy's cup and you hope you get a handful.
    40:12
    Cuphead. It's Cuphead. I love Cuphead. Yeah. reach down between his cup grab some handful yeah oh god that's gonna fucking crash and burn i would just really like time out let's try something else okay re-theme i'd make two i would do i would do the spooky thing for that one what same play field different yep a good theme and then you whatever you want to call cup in the hand or two girls one cup i don't know what the fuck you what the fuck you want to do but something better than cup but i would listen to that it was very interesting what two girls in a cup really it's not really that interesting look i'm listening to it no oh oh okay sorry i thought you were talking about that disgusting thank you very much what else do i have here the the media thing all the media the media places that got to go to stern Oh, yes. To get re-educated by Stern. Re-educated. Yeah.
    41:14
    Several of them had stories about their trip and all that. I found a lot of them interesting. And? I mean, the triple drain one, the loser kid one, the pinball kineticist slash twip. They had a big, long article. He actually had a picture of one of the conference rooms.
    41:36
    And I think there was a cheetah conference room, they said. So, I mean, I wonder how many conference rooms they have. Because I've heard of a Flight 2000 conference room, a Cheetah conference room, and there was a Stars conference room. So that's at least three. Yeah, I know. How many conference rooms do they have? Well, in our place, we have, I think there's 12 conference rooms in our place. Okay. So there's a lot of conference rooms out there. Everyone likes the conference. What else do I have here?
    42:04
    Oh. Oh? Oh. Yesterday, Bruce. I went to the world famous Rock Fantasy Did you? And what happened there? To play in the Spring Open Yeah, I've got Ron down here From the world famous Ron and Ron and Fez show So One of the reasons I went down there Is because I know Top 10 players in the world will not be there Because they're all at the IFPA Yes they are So you thought, hey, I gotta win I have a better chance and they just did the usual thing they've been doing, which is they just use match play and they'll do rounds up to a certain time and then there'll be a cutoff for finals and they'll do four more rounds, but they don't blank anything. It just continues. Which is weird. It's weird. Yeah, but I can see why they do it. It's the easiest way. It's very weird, though. It's very easy to do a match play and that's probably why they do it. For only the second time ever,
    43:02
    I won at Rock Fantasy. You got the hold. I got to hold the Hulk head. Yes, you did. The Hulk head. I think it's like a plastic head that you would have used for Halloween to carry your candy in. Your candy in, yes. Yeah. But it's world famous. It is. And I got to hold the Hulk head for only the second time. I was so happy. And I played about as good as I played in a long time. I mean, I... Oh, how good was it? I only drained myself like once. Even on the darkest creature from the Black Lagoon? Oh, I had to play the creature. I couldn't really see what I was shooting, but I did find – You used the Swartz. That's what you did. You used the Swartz. No, I found the spinner shot and just went for the move your car, and then on ball three I just must have inadvertently hit it, and it started to move my car. Move your car! And I was able to hit it a bunch of times, and that's what won me the game. Nice. So that was nice. Yeah, it was 12 rounds, and I have it right here. Fourth, fourth, fourth. First, first, first, first, first, first. Jaws second. Congo first. Stars third. Ooh, that's a fail. That was my lowest of the day. Ooh. Black Knight first. Iron Maiden second. Dracula second. Genie first. Creature from the Black Lagoon first. Roller Disco second. Hocus Pocus first. Pulp Fiction second. and I actually mathematically had it before the final round, but the final round Godzilla first. He actually has a roller disco down there. Yeah. If Zach was here, you'd just hear the end of it. I was very happy. Oh, you did very good and I'm very proud of you. And I got to play, he's got a Pulp Fiction there and of course it's Rock Fantasy, so it's on full R-rated mode, F-bomb city. Nice to see. Motherfucker. Yep. Jaws, I got to play Jaws and I got to play, I played Elton John. so there you go okay linen not limp dick what the hell are you saying there i had a bed in my bed today Oh, God.
    45:28
    I'm going through. I'll do the usual Nap Arcade run here. Hi, Nap Arcade. He needs to come up to our location and take pictures like he does on every other location. Yeah.
    45:39
    78 games you can take a picture of and soon to be 80. So a pinball. Bob Marley, supposedly JJP, had the license for Bob Marley.
    45:49
    Why? That's what the employee said because none of the design teams wanted to make it. So it didn't go anywhere. So you think that's a wise decision and it didn't happen? Hey, they did something smart for once. Okay. Let's see. Anything else? But you're stealing from all of NAP Arcade. You should have more than just that. Well, I already went through most of them, but there are stories that have been everywhere.
    46:12
    Nope, that's all I got, Bruce. So do you want to go through the ball bag? I love the ball bag. I'm sure you do. All right. This first one's from David. Hey, David. It says, hey, guys. I had the pleasure of meeting both of you at the Beast last year in Buffalo. Yes. I just wanted to say I love the podcast and listen to every episode. I really like the repairs part, as most other podcasts don't cover that. And as a tech myself, I always like to hear what's wrong and what the fix was on things in case a similar issue ever comes up for me. Anyway, during your latest episode, Bruce sent you a picture, and you guys started laughing uncontrollably. And you mentioned people could ask you about it. Stop, as it was too rich for the air. I'm wondering if you guys could share it with me via email, as I'm not able to get to stop. How about Beast? I'll see you at the Beast. All good either way. Keep up the great work, guys, and we'll see you at the Beast. There you go. We'll show it to you at the Beast. So show it to the Beast, and then you can make your own assumptions. Assumptions of what we were. We laughed our fucking ass off. How bad we are. We're bad humans. Laughing at us. Yes, we are very bad humans. P.S. The subs at the diner next door are to die for. Whoa. There's a sub place next to, is it like in that same plaza? No, it's not in the same plaza. There's only a beer shop in the same plaza. Maybe next door or maybe across the street. I'd like to try that out. Yeah, I like subs. I'd rather have subs than just eat terrible food. Yeah. Which is what usually happens. Yes, it does. All right.
    47:53
    Thank you, fellow STD-er. Yes. Another STD-er. We've got Daniel. Daniel with nine eyes and fangs. I can see the red taillights heading for Spain. Oh, and I can see Daniel waving goodbye.
    48:13
    Well, it's going to sound great with these mics, isn't it? Oh, I miss Daniel. He says, dudes. Dudes. Uh-oh, we're now in trouble. We're fucked. He says, Elmer. No, he doesn't. Dudes. Elmer. Got a stars because of y'all. Woo-hoo! Got a nicer stars because, well, stars. Made it a point to play as many sterns as possible. Okay. Went to Clay's VFW Hall in Ann Arbor. Nice. And spent a ton of time as he has all of them. Got hooked on Dragon Fist. The fist. Everyone loves the fist. Fist, fist. Figured I would build one. Of course. Of course, everyone's building fist ones. Bought a Project Meteor at Allentown as my donor. Unfortunately, the beater meteor I grabbed is actually fully functional and stupid fun. I met the guy at Allentown. He showed it to me. I'm like, wow, that thing's pretty nice. He's like, oh, yeah. I think it's nicer than I thought it was. Seriously, it's really, really good. Now I got to find another donor. Yes, you do. What's a shitty stern he can use as a donor? A galaxy. Oh, that's not that bad. It's not that bad. No, try something else. It's got to be something worse.
    49:23
    Stingray. Oh, well, Stingray. But it's different wiring. You're trying to keep it in normal. Oh, so you need MPU 200. But all their MPU 200s are good. I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think I can sacrifice this meteor to the altar of the fist. I would not. My current lineup is Stars, Meteor, Frontier, Cosmic, Gunfight. Cosmic will be going out for another ass-kicker of a Stern or Bally, I suspect. I used to have mostly modern games and a WPC or two mixed in. I'm always watching for classic Stern and Bally games now. This is all your fault. I thank you. You're welcome. P.S. Bruce and I played a game on Your Scott's Galaxy. Yes. And Bruce proceeded to put a high game to date on it. Asshole. Later, fellas. Daniel. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Daniel. I have a list of games I'm looking for now, too. So we'll talk about that after the mail and then. Oh, really? Yes. I have a couple more left on the list. You're begging again. I'm begging. OK, let's see. We'll go to the next one here. And you already talked about one of them today. Oh, I did. You did. OK. Oh, God. This one's from Cole, who must have been listening to the to stop because he starts off. Hey, Ron and Elmer. Watched the stream of Stop and Wish I Didn't Live Across the Country. It sounded like a lot of fun. Was had by everybody, especially when the camera froze on Ron's face. It looked like Ryan C's selfie from Dialed In when he was getting a blowjob. Or he was enjoying some DPX action. Oh, my. Wow. You guys really know how to have a good time in Rochester. Too bad we didn't get to see Stu win again. Sounds like he needs to get banned again. I think he does. I think I got to make sure I'm there next time he's there so I can stream him. Yeah, golden. The last game for the championship should have been called Code Brown as the turd Star Wars was picked. Oh, I know. I was so upset with that. Like, all right, here comes the last game, and it's a modern. I'm like, okay, what's he going to pick? He doesn't like – he already picked – we have a rule at Stomp where you can't pick the same game twice. So he picked Guardians first first round. Second round, he picked something. This was Bob, I believe. He picked Batman the second time, and that was his final one. He had a choice between Rush, Jurassic Park, Godzilla, a couple others, common stuff. And then he goes, I'm going to pick Star Wars. And I went, ugh. I literally died inside a little bit. Like I was playing it. Cole says, at least that dirty Canadian Jeff didn't win. America! Jeff was awesome, though, hosting the stream along with you, Ron. He was good, yes. That's what makes it more fun to watch, listening to you two and Bruce chiming in with his Bruce-isms. Which, Bruce had several of them on the belt itself. Yes. Yeah, Bruce put these little quotes on the sides of the belt. Tidbits, don't give them away, because it's only the worthy. They were either misspellings or just Bruce-isms, one or the other. I couldn't fit one. But it was so perfect. It was perfect. Got to play some John Wick lately. Not a lot. And I did like it. I thought the shots were a little tight, but not unhittable. The code is early and will make this game. But I have faith that Timmer will do it justice. Well, he needs to communicate where the lock is better than lock is lit. Lock is lit. And where the fuck am I hitting? And what the fuck am I doing? I bet you on the premium the whole ramp lights up or something. So it's different. I hope so. It is a more brutal, fast game, which I like as games that are too easy get boring fast. Ron, don't tell me that Star Wars is the same as hitting an action button to get a high score is not pinball. That Star Wars is the same as hitting an action button. That sounds like a Bruce-ism. Yeah, and just like when I played Jaws and never thought the shark should eat the ball or Brody should be on the artwork, at no point while playing John Wick did I think I would enjoy it more if there were guns on the play field.
    53:18
    Sorry, Kens and Karens, not really. Oh, my. Hope to run into both of you at some point. Then I can give Ron a hug. I just won't do it like Bruce. Bruce, sorry to tell you, but grabbing both cheeks during an embrace is not a hug. Sorry. Wait a sec. I do the full reach around and get the finger. Sorry. That's what the sex bot Jeff was talking about is for. Oh, my. One of your DPX and STDs. Cole.
    53:44
    Wow. We got STDs. We got DPXs. And you can get them both if you really want. Okay, Bruce. What games do you want to beg for now? There's a couple. and you talked about one already today i did you did they broke today at the ifpa 19 oh oh god high roller casino i love a high roller god i would okay there's another one there i liked also i'd love to get one i've i've i've wanted one for a while i'd like to get a torpedo alley ah okay i like torpedo alley i like a lot of those really early daddy's games torpedo alley Secret Service, Time Machine. Yep. Time Machine, shoot again. Star Warp, Star Warp. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. With those wonderful plastic ramps that are completely trashed on every version I've ever seen. I know. Because they had the obscenely powerful flippers also. Yeah. So that would be my second game. Those are the top two right now. So if anyone's got one for sale at Bruce Pricing, come to Bruce Pricing. Repairs. We had a lot this week.
    54:59
    We opened up this week after Stomp, and they're like, oh, the plunging coil doesn't work for the shooting on the right-hand side of Judge Dredd. I'm like, oh, okay. So he goes, it's got to be the coil. So I bring a coil in. It was a 23-800, and I go to it, and I'm like, okay, let me see if I have continuity between the coil. Hmm. testing good 4.5 ohms i tested new one 4.5 ohms because i had to desolder one of the leads like huh i tested in the test you know solder back up and test my doesn't work i'm like oh fuck is it a transistor i don't want to be taken out of board i'm like well let me check one thing and this is a good hint for all you people in what wpc land you know set your multimeter up to d you know the dc voltage ground out your black and touch each first touch the one side of the coil and then touch the other side if the coil is good you should have the same voltage on both sides yes uh so uh what you do is you ground you know you put your ground wire on the ground and then you just check one side and you should have the same power on the other side and i didn't i had 74 volts on one side and zero on the other i'm like okay so it is the coil then pulled out the coil the little strand came off the it fell off the uh the winding the solder to the lug but i replaced it because zach said oh i had that problem like three months ago i was surprised it lasted this long so i replaced it and we're good that was one fun one uh second one still playing with viper once in a while the turret does not rotate i replaced the links on the flippers and the coil stops because one was actually one was broken on us on an early stern which is very surprising always they always break where the bolts bolt up whenever i get some old sterns no comment no you never had that i'm trying to figure out if this is done and they just haven't updated yet oh like if it's actually four oh and they just haven't put on there because they're they're showing you they're showing car hop and no one has started yeah probably it's It's probably the Iceman. The Iceman. Well, no one's standing there, so I don't know what's going on. Iceman. I'm in the shitter.
    57:22
    Shitter's full. I had to go somewhere else. Well, the chat's talking about strategy, so maybe they – Shitter's full. I'm going to say it the next time I see the guy. Shitter's full.
    57:35
    Oh, my God. But, yeah. You are so mean. So that was another repair. working on that Pharaoh. The trough is so screwed up on that thing. It's a Pharaoh. It doesn't deserve to be played. It doesn't deserve to be played, especially not the RPC. Cobras! Cobra, rah, rah, rah. Rah, rah. Yeah, some people should... First of all, some people should not touch pinball machines. That's what my mentality is. They just shouldn't. You can see the, you know, because if you notice on the trough on the older solid state valleys and also early Stearns and early Williams. They're split the levels from the left-hand side to the right-hand side of this trough. Well, one was bent all the way up and one was bent all the way down. I'm like, so there I am tapping on this thing, trying to make it level. No flap for the ball catch, even though it should have one. Oh, yeah. The thingy that makes it so it can't roll back into the air. And what do you think it was doing? kicking out, going so hard, it would hit the other ball. And bounce back in. Yeah. Yes. So I got to try to make a ball catch. It's even better when it's facing the wrong way. Yeah. And you need to put the apron down on it, and it just starts, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Break. Yeah. Stop.
    58:57
    So that was another thing we did. Zach worked on a couple of EMs, got them working. Uh-oh. Bruce is yawning here. He's ready to yawn now. It's 8 o'clock. Yeah. So, yeah, it was pretty cool. But, you know, coil tip, it will be my coil tip of the day. I get the tip from me. Yeah, baby.
    59:18
    Bruce is really falling in love with the microphone now. Yes, I am. So are you going to actually listen to the episode to hear how you sound? No. I'll have people comment. You should just say yes and then say how I edited you poorly.
    59:32
    You edited me poorly. Yes, yes. uh and i still have a uh i gotta work on a tommy in the back gotta help out one of the guys because he has a tommy uh we still got our work on star race once that gets a uh system 80 board set wider than wide wider than wide and i gotta work on my countdown we powered up for the first time and it booted up right away wait a minute another countdown i'm not counting that sorry counterforce i booted that up and it booted up right away so hey surprise surprise so i gotta work on getting new flipper assembly bats all this other fun stuff pop bumpers aren't right but uh we'll get it working for the rpc even though the art the the cabinet's not pretty oh my fucking god yeah neither is the uh and neither is the play field either the play field's kind of rough but yeah it'll it'll do it'll be a fun game let's see if i had any repairs nope see you later bye no not really but most of my stuff has been involved is with the stupid rigs and computer shit. Yeah. Yeah, that's a ticket. Yeah. Yeah, that's a ticket. Oh, if anyone from Jersey Jack listens to this... You suck! No, no.
    60:54
    Goddamn, Bruce. He just turned us off. Yes. No, Elton John is awesome, and I'm wondering, what exactly does the Crocodile Rock difficulty setting do? Because it doesn't seem to do anything. I set it to max difficulty and made no difference on how Crocodile Rock multiball works. It's no harder to get into. The actual multiball itself is exactly the same. And I notice, unlike the other settings that have descriptions next to them that say what they do, this one's blank. So I'm thinking it's not coded. it's just a filler probably that's what i'm thinking which hopefully that means they will be doing something with it because i would like to make that a little harder oh oh that means i'll get to play crocodile rock at the old ronner's house for stomp the old house stop seven or yeah whatever it is it is seven it is seven wow we got to think of a name for it oh that we did have we We did have a lucky seven.
    62:02
    Ron will be giving away a lucky seven pinball machine. Or if any of our listeners have a better. We'll get six people coming out because they don't want to get stuck with that turd. If any of our listeners have a better name. Yes. And we still have to think of who's the one that gave us the stomp name. We have to go back to the old emails. Yeah, that would be a really old email. Well. That would require me to do work, and I'm not doing that. Sorry. So if you're the one who came up with the idea, let us know by emailing us again at slam till podcast at gmail.com. That's slam till podcast at gmail.com.
    62:38
    I know why we didn't get picked for Stern's thing besides me. The Stern media thing because you are so mean to everybody. I'm not mean to Keith. I'm not mean to Raymond. Yeah, but you're like really mean to people there. You are very mean. That doesn't matter. You're very unprofessionally mean to people, Bruce. Well, they're assholes. No, they're not. They're blinding me when I'm fucking playing a game. That doesn't make them an asshole. I don't want to see the new fucking Beetlejuice with fucking blinders.
    63:07
    Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice. Oh, do you mean the, okay. Yeah, I guess Brian Eddy was at the Northwest Pinball, or Northwest Game Room show, or what it's called. And he trolled everybody by, he had a slideshow, and at the bottom it says, Me and Dwight were working on my next game, and it had a tiny little picture, and it was Beetlejuice. Yes, and Beetlejuice had sunglasses on. I don't know why.
    63:31
    Why would Beetlejuice have to have sunglasses on for – Okay, Bruce. What? Just stating. No, but the reason why we didn't get picked because it's all Ron's fault. Oh, it's my fault. Yes, I've deemed this. Okay. Because our podcast does not have pinball in it. It does not have the name pinball. nudge magazine doesn't and they're using pinball terminology which is what we're doing so there goes that theory uf failed well i i still blame you thank you i'm the personality person here you're just the you're just uh not even pretty face like what would i call you you're the edit man yes that's you're the fix it man that's all i'm good for fixing yes you're a fix it man if i have a problem i call it mr fix it yeah mr fix it ron loves fixing all it problems yes i i do i do uh what i do like is actually recording the other podcasts i'm on which is called the silver ball chronicles which what is that we go over pinball history and it can be listened to on the pinball network so check us out that's silver ball chronicles another name i came up with how many people can say that they came up with names for two different podcasts that are still around wow i would have been on that second podcast and would have been a lot better we would have been off the air in two months for those who don't know bruce was the original choice yep david dennis wanted bruce yeah but i was i had the bar so i had no free time he never even asked me, which was the funny thing. So then he said, I'll just ask the other New Yorker. Yeah, then he tells me, like, by the way, you know, you weren't the first choice.
    65:17
    Wow. Okay. I couldn't have been. Would I have still been the funny guy or would I have been the straight guy on that one? Oh, you'd have to be the straight guy because David Dennis is Canadian. That equals funny. Does it? Or funny attempt. Does it? Attempted funny. They haven't won a cup in so long, a Stanley Cup. So is that funny, too? What does that have to do with humor? That's hockey, Bruce. It's still funny that they don't win once. That's even more funny about it. Although Slapshot is one of the funniest sports movies ever made. It is. I agree with that totally. Yeah. Okay, I think we've totally gone off like not even pinball at this point. Yeah, but I couldn't be the straight guy. Not at all. No, you're the comedian, which means in the old vaudeville days, you'd make less money. I would make less money. The straight man always made more money. Hey, I'm back! Yeah, Costello made less money. Yep.
    66:03
    Hey, I'm back! literally thinking of the same group that's what i think of when i think classic comedian and the straight man yep because abbott i don't think of lauren hardy i think of goblin costello and abbott was a killer straight man no he was probably the best he was the best they're playing car hopper so yes they're playing car hop oh fuck me how many times have we seen car hop this weekend uh i don't that's the first time i've seen it oh it was on before but yeah it was it's it's on one of the Everyone was picking it. It's just like, stop. Stop. I did like that they had the party zone that had the ramp nuked. I don't know, but I'm glad it was actually a stream. That was an indisc. Yes, it was. Three years ago. No, even further back. Oh, really? Pre-COVID, I remember that one. Yeah, because they made it so typically when you hit the ramp in party zone, I think it holds it up top and then it gives you it right to your flipper. So they made it so it just falls into pop-offers. Yes. So they were doing the same thing everyone else did at InDesk when they saw that. The furthest right shot as many times as you possibly can. And it adds up. So one goes to two. Oh, max out of ten. Oh, and try to get into multi-ball because when multi-ball is over, then 2X is on. 2X is on and then you multi-ball. Yes. Yep. That's what everyone was doing. Yeah, it gets pretty boring that way too. Yeah, but I could explain it to my dad who was watching it. It was very easy. Like, oh, I can get that. Okay. I totally understand what they're trying to do. As opposed to Godzilla, if I'm trying to explain to him, it gets more complicated. Oh, God. Good thing they weren't playing Rush or something. Yeah. Or Led Zeppelin. How do you get the multipliers? Well, you need this. You need this abacus. Abacus? No, I thought you just hit the nude guy over and over. Isn't that it?
    67:50
    Abacus you need to figure out how you're going to get this. and you can play that at rochester pinball collective also i can holy crap awesome 77 other games right now we had a backup in case but i don't think you would like the backups what was the backups well one was scooby oh god oh by the way um fireball classic did its fireball classic thing what'd it do which we had to review on replay uh it did the thing where in multi-ball person drain and and at the same time and you know they were pissed yeah well they they were gonna cut a cop ball and i mean being the bad guy on the stream i'm watching like and i watched the replay well he explained it saying no i i he explained like i didn't get my bonus i'm like did anyone else in like oh yeah he didn't get his bonus i'm like okay i have to go by everyone what they're saying and then you're like Whoa! Yeah. I showed him the replay. He's like, oh, okay. And that was the end of that. Yeah. Yeah, he did get his bonus. But he said he didn't. Everyone said he didn't. I was like, oh, okay. If he didn't get his bonus, then. It just ended. It was beautiful. I love it. Fireball Classic doing Fireball Classic things, which everyone hates that game with an absolute passion. And that's why I like it. Yeah. We had a couple of weird ones. And someday it will completely hose me in a situation everyone can laugh at me. and that's perfectly fine. I cannot wait.
    69:19
    It will be awesome. All right. I think I'm out of material. You're out of material? Did you see the thing I sent you on the 5th? The thing I sent you on the 5th? I sent you a video on... Yeah, I didn't understand it. You didn't understand that video? No.
    69:36
    Oh, it's fucking awesome. Where were they at? What do you mean, where were they at? They were at McDonald's. Okay. And it was two girls.
    69:46
    and they were eating what one sunday uh-huh one sunday uh-huh so two girls and one sunday equals i don't know dude and they had chocolate ice cream in the middle of it uh-huh i watched it like a bunch of times i i was more distracted by the guy in the video and no one can see this by the way so i was more distracted by the guy in the video stuff on his shirt was backwards yes i know So you see the picture of the two girls. Yes. And what are they eating? A sundae. What's a sundae made out of usually? Ice cream. And? Chocolate ice cream. And what was it in? It's in a cup. A cup. Yes. There you go.
    70:27
    I still don't get it. Two girls in one cup. I've never seen that video, Bruce. Oh, my God. You need to watch that video. I know. I heard about the video. And it's like, oh, yeah, that sounds like something I don't want to see ever. So I've not seen it. It was just funny, like, take your mind out of the gutter, you people. This is what you're thinking. I thought of that and saw it, and I thought of you.
    70:48
    No, never seen the video. Really? Nope. Wow, I'm very disappointed in you. Sometimes I have a little class first, just a little. You heard it here, folks, first. Ron has a little bit of class. Not like me. Unlike you. Unlike me. I am classy Freddy Vlassy. Oh, definitely. Yes. I'm just seeing if this is ending anytime soon. Mr. Carhop. Oh, is this? I don't know. Is Carhop usually a long playing game? It can be. It was for Elwin and him. It was like 40 minutes. Oh, it's terrible. Wait a minute. They're playing. Okay, I'm confused. I only see one player on the score thing. Are they playing it as a one player game? They shouldn't be. They must be doing it. They're playing it as a one player game for some reason. There must be some kind of thing that you can't do with two players. Maybe a catch up award. Well, maybe. Oh, you know what? Yeah. Doesn't this thing have the ketchup? I think it does have the ketchup. Because it's food. Yeah, that's probably why they're doing it. Jason is at 48 million right now. Is that good? I don't know what scoring is. That's very good, actually. Yes. Okay. Think of scoring like Surf and Safari. So this will be his first major, I believe. Yeah, great. Hey. I got to pee. Sorry, I got to poop.
    72:04
    Jesus Christ. Oh, man. I got to go potty. Okay, Bruce I think what the guy should do now The guy that's playing him Just disappear for half an hour Where's the guy?
    72:17
    He's in the toilet I can't get this out And then Jason B. Saul's like Oh, God I want to win my wager I want to win my major And make him wait Because I'm an asshole Wow, Bruce I hope the guy comes back and takes four Oh, man You are so mean And ties it fucking right away Wow All right, Sweden. Go, Sweden. Jason, this is all Bruce. This is not me. Go, Sweden. Oh, no, it's not all Canada, Bruce. That doesn't even make sense. Go, Ikea. When Eric Stone lost, he had his usual Facebook post. Oh, God. He fucking blew up again. Oh, again. I finished 20th for a bad call. You know what? We should keep all those posts and then do them in a different context than something else. I think it would be hilarious.
    73:09
    My pencil protector did not protect my shirt from getting ink on it, so I'm going to complain about this, too. Very good, Bruce. What talent. I did not like this at all. I'm going to complain about this on Facebook.
    73:23
    I can tell you, Bruce, my voice services have been requested for an upcoming project. Ooh, what project would this be? I can't say. Porn? No. Porn. What the hell would that be? Porn voiceover guy? Yes, because maybe they're not good. It's for European porn, so it's just yaw, yaw, yaw, yaw, yaw. So what pinball company asked you to do service? No, it's not a pinball company. It's nothing that you get paid for. It's a volunteer effort.
    73:56
    And it won't be for a long time, like until next year. So we get something to look forward to. Will we get T-shirts? Will we get T-shirts from this? I don't know. Bruce. Well, you got to get something for this. It's not just free. You're doing it out of the goodness of your heart. They should give you something. It's all about giving, Bruce. I got love for sale. What's that? Giving? Yeah, you should take a little bit after giving. So take a little bit. Take a little bit. Instead of give a little bit, take a little bit. Give a little bit of your love to me. There's so much that we need to share, Bruce. Give a little bit. Okay. We're really just – how long have we been going at this point? It's an hour and 37 minutes. Yeah, it's too long. Okay. Way too long. So this has been the Slamdell Podcast, episode 230. Who wants to be on next, Ron? Do we have somebody? I thought we had another person that wanted to be on. We do. Also, you want me to start asking people? Yeah, I think you need to start asking because we want to give the people what the people ask. Because you're sick of just being with me. Yeah. I need a break. I want to hear more bad microphones on there. Now that we have good microphones on here, now I need to hear a bad one. Yeah, now you want to hear bad ones so my editing is more difficult. Exactly. See, this works out well. Uh-huh. So, yes, episode 230, I'm here with Elmer Nightingale. Yes. I'm here with stud boy Ronnie. Stud boy, wow. Well, you're giving your services out in the European porn voiceovers.
    75:25
    Wow, this went really off the wrist. This had nothing to do with pinball. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes, check out our website, www.slamtailpodcast.com. All the links are in the upper right-hand corner. You can also check out the Rochester Pinball Collective YouTube at ROCPinball to watch the awesomeness that was Stomp.
    75:49
    If you want to send us any email correspondence, once again, you can send it to slamtailpodcast at gmail.com. I think that's all I got to plug. Hi to everyone in the Clusterfuck. Hello, Clusterfuckers. Hi, you know, Flambo Bonus. He's at IPA. He was announcing. Yes, he is. Zach. Hi, Zach.
    76:09
    Everybody on the Cluster Fuck. Pinball Princess. All of our friends and family. All of our friends and podcast. And I want to say again, thank you, everyone who came out the stomp and made it as good as it was. And I hope next time will be bigger. We're going to start figuring out Ron's date. Great. That's going to be a fucking cluster fuck. Not 32 max. No, I'm talking about the date. Oh. I got so much shit coming up, it's not even funny. Oh. I got a tournament. Sorry, I have a concert on September 15th, so it can't be that weekend. Round the map. And if I go to the UK Open, it can't be that weekend. Exactly. So see how fucked we are? We're running out of time, Captain. Captain, I can't keep the dilithium crystals all in line. Still in line. Okay.
    76:52
    All right. I think that's all I got. At least I kept it in pinball this time. Yes, you... 80% power, Captain! Do you have a name, Bruce? I do. Okay, very good. So, and listeners, feel free to let us know how well Bruce sounds now, or if you notice no difference whatsoever, which would be hilarious. No difference whatsoever. Then Ron will be so disappointed. He'll fucking shoot himself. I would be disappointed. He'd be like, oh, what the fuck, Bruce? What did you do? What did you do this for? I mean, it sounds better than me. Well, that's easy. You were just keeping me down all this time. All this time. 229 episodes, you kept me down. Yeah, I wanted to make sure I sounded better than you, but now it's over. All these other podcasts are going to demand and ask for me to come listen and talk to them in this sultry voice. Come to me, butthead. You stopped at a weird spot there. Come to me, butthead. Come to me. Okay. Until next time, say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Grant King.
    78:00
    Hold my mind, hold my mind, you can do me if you try. Hold my mind, hold my mind, there's guarantee to keep you alive. We'll be right back. Oh, my.
    78:59
    Oh, my. the end of that microphone actually pops off like you can just pull it off yes you said that oh yeah i can touch it yeah and there's a longer one i can put in there longer one i this is four inches i want bigger four inches is not big enough i want more big boy okay